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Go for it. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's some lint.
You got some lint on your shirt. No, not that, but thank you. I appreciate that.
Yeah, no problem. We are deep in the trenches of rehearsals for the play. It's play season.
Deep in the trenches. You're in play. Yeah, I'm in the play. I'm in the play. I'm Marley and Marley, avarice and grief.
You're just the one. Just Marley. Just Jacob Marley. But I'm still doing the song. From the Muppets Christmas Carol. That may or may not be in the show.
We cannot confirm that. You'll have to attend the show and see. Anyway, plug for that Christmas Carol coming up here at Clearview Church, December the 7th and the 8th. Tickets are available. $5 a piece. Let us know if you need some.
252-582-5028. Anyway, my gripe, which I think you maybe witnessed this at rehearsal. I am playing Scrooge. Right. In the show. I got a lot of lines. Got a lot of scenes.
Got a lot of blocking to remember. Okay, so I'm trying to, when I'm on stage, I'm trying to be in the moment. I'm trying to be in the character. I'm trying to, you know, all that training.
I'm trying to focus on what I'm doing. So are you not directing or are you just... I am also directing. So myself, Nicole Shaw, Dr. Shaw's wife, my wife, Elizabeth, and then another woman in our church, we are the team of directors. And also all four of us are in the show, which is something that we've never done before. Who is Elizabeth playing? Her character doesn't have a name, but she's a mother of like a couple of street kids that went through.
She shows up twice in the show. So we, in the show, I'm rehearsing, we're going through the lines. I'm trying to remember my lines because we just went off book.
I'm trying to remember everything. And other people who are there looking at set changes, who are there looking at costumes, who are there looking at props, will come up and ask questions to me while I'm trying to rehearse. So I'm trying to deliver... During the scene?
Uh-huh. So I'm trying to deliver lines and they're like, hey, about this scene, like when you bring on that chair, what are you envisioning there? Are you seeing... And the scenes going on in rehearsal? Can you ask me this literally any other time? Are you for real? They're really doing that? Yeah.
Yeah. I could understand them coming up like... No, no, no. In the middle. In the middle. In the middle. I was like, can we... Or maybe, maybe it's like at a break between two scenes. Yeah, I thought that was the bright. It's really difficult when you're in that, when you're focused in the zone trying to remember everything as your character to then be like, yes, let me answer your question. I thought... Now I'm Ebenezer Scrooge. No, I thought your gripe, because I thought it was a perfectly valid gripe, was that in between scenes, I'm still trying to focus.
I'm trying to think through what I'm doing and they're calling up. But they're coming on stage during the scene? It's rare, but it has happened. That's wild, Ryan. That's wild.
That's not even a gripe. That's a travesty. That's chaos. Yeah. I was like, hey, we're in the middle of running a scene.
Can you ask me this later or ask someone else? I remember those days. It's unavoidable with you, but with me, with Worship Team, there were times where we'd be doing concert training or concert rehearsal, I should say, and we'd be switching out musicians. So it got to be chaotic because there were some musicians who were just sitting there waiting for their time. We've cleaned that up now to where during rehearsal everybody's involved at every... Now we still have people who break off and talk and you got to wrangle them back, but it's a shadow of what it used to be. It used to be like people were just sitting there talking. We had to go round them up to the church because they were just sitting there.
With a play, you can't. It's unavoidable. If you're not in that scene, you're just waiting for your time to go on the stage. But there's also, instead of there being like five of them, there's like 50 of them. There's like 50 or 60 people who are just up, just sitting there waiting for their time to go on. So yeah, they're going to be all over the place. They're going to be... And so then you're having to ask them, hey guys, I know that you're here for most of the night and you might not do anything for another 40 minutes, but sit down and be quiet.
Please, for the love of heaven, be quiet. I can't believe people are coming up on the stage during the scene. It's rare. I think that only happened once or twice.
That's crazy. But 100% in between scenes, like when I walk off stage and I'm waiting for my next entrance, they're like, can I just talk to you real quick? No, you can't talk to me real quick. No, write it down and ask me later. I am in a nightie and slippers. I have a night cap on right now and I'm wearing a night gown. No, you can't ask me. I was watching you last night during the rehearsal and I was like, I know Gooden well he's not in a nightie for this entire play.
For most of it, yes. You start as Scrooge and you look pretty dapper. I'm not going to lie. The black suit, the red scarf, the top hat, I was like, dang, that actually looks kind of cool. And then I was like, I know he's going to be in the nightie for the scene with Marley and with the goat. But I was like, at some point he's going to put his clothes back on. At the end. At the very end, but that's it. Because the whole thing happens in one night. Spoiler alert if you don't know anything about a Christmas carol, it happens all in one night. Oh, man.
That's crazy. Is it at least comfortable? Or are you a little awkward? No, it's pretty comfortable. No, it's pretty comfortable. You're fine?
I'm going to have like gym shorts on underneath it. Fair enough. Yeah.
Fair enough. Dr. Shaw has been on the stage for a while. He grew up doing plays. I wonder if he's ever encountered anybody. Let's ask him. Violating that rule of the theater.
Let's ask him if someone ever came up to him while he was preaching a sermon to ask a question. I know the answer to that. What? The answer is yes. What? Yeah.
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If you have any questions or suggestions for new topics, send us a text to 252-582-5028. That's right. We're here once again in the Clear View Today studio with Dr. Abaddon Shaw, who's a Ph.D. in New Testament textual criticism, professor at Carolina University, author, full-time pastor and the host of today's show. Speaking of being a full-time pastor, Dr. Shaw, do you ever have people come up and try to interact with you during the preaching time? You're in the middle of a message behind the pulpit on stage and someone's like, I need to go tell him this right now. And so they get up out of the pew, walk up to the pew, step up there and just be like, hey, Dr. Shaw, can I ask a question?
Do dogs go to heaven? Now you do know it happened to me once recently. Yeah. We were talking about that in the intro.
I was like, there is one sort of recent example. Yeah. To ask you that, but I didn't ask you, say it in my ear who it was.
Just say it in my ear. Oh, for real? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You remember that? I think I might've been in the broadcast room when that happened. Yeah. 100% that happened.
It never happened before that? No. Okay.
So it came about- Well, well, well, well, well, I had one lady argue with me while I was preaching. Here? At Clearview? No. This was when we were in our first building. So you're going back to like 2000 and probably two or three. Okay.
Probably 2003. Okay. And I'm preaching, okay? I'm up there preaching. I'm preaching about Paul's commandment to women, submit to your own husband and the Lord.
Oh, no. And she... Her husband is sitting next to her. Her kids are there too. Their kids are there too. And she started with me, argument.
Well, why is it that... And what if your husband is not the person like he's supposed to be? With her husband sitting right there? She's sitting there. Yeah.
Why? Or something of that sort. She's like, I'm not going to ask her husband. But she was saying pretty much like, what if he's not like totally doing what Paul expects husbands to do? Like she thought she was on a podcast or something in the middle of preaching like we were going to have a discussion. And like we were in our old, old building.
So this is going back to like 2002, 2003, somewhere there, maybe 2003. And I could see our people at church, I mean, they just turned and they were looking at her like, you know, some of our older people, pretty much I would say other than maybe three or four who are still left, all of them have passed on into glory. But I remember them looking at her like, yeah, it's kind of an accepted thing that you don't talk while the pastor's talking. Amen. Every now and then.
Yeah, you can go. Amen. This isn't like a dialogue happening. Yeah, exactly. So I think there's some people who maybe don't go to church very often, or maybe they're not even Christians. And I wonder, like, what's the, what's the, I would say it's different than every church, but far across the board, you don't do that. No, you don't do that. I think some churches might would put up with it, but like here, it's like, you don't, you don't get up and you can ask the pastor questions afterwards.
You can't get up. It's at that moment, our ushers get promoted to hushers. Yeah. Oh, very nice.
Ryan, I got to give you that one. All right. Nevermind.
I'll try to give it to you. But well, I tried it too. Yeah. Oh, well.
Yeah, it was, it was silent applause. So that's where you kind of take them into the back until like the sacristy or something. You just say, Hey, look, you can't do that. You know what I'm saying?
Oh, you push him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Sacristy? Sacristy. What is sacristy?
So that's a room in the church where sacred vessels investments are kept and where the clergy, okay. That's the applause for Ryan's joke. You know what? I'll take the secret word award.
Thank you so much, folks. No, but you didn't. I didn't. You said the word, but we all were like, what is sacristy?
What was that? They're all delayed coming through now. Everything's piled on top of each other. We got to get rid of that computer. Wow. So a sacristy is a room in the church where sacred vessels investments are kept and where clergy, where the clergy vests. I don't know what that means. Vests. Where the vestments.
Like the clothes. Oh, okay. That's where the sacristy, that's probably where, uh, when you were in London. Yes. I was about to say that, but that's like my, uh, my dad's church had a vestry.
Okay. So it doesn't, it didn't function as a vestry where they would put their vestments on. But since our church was built by the British and it was, had sort of an Anglican type feel to it.
So why are you laughing? Because I tried really hard to get away with sacristy. I thought that would be a great sacristy.
So y'all didn't call it the sacristy. It was the vestistry. Yeah. Okay. Vestry. Vestry.
Vestry. Okay. We had to pick better words. I know. I know. It's the word I was given.
Those words are so like uncommon. We have to maybe demote them down a little bit. Yeah. Can we do that, David? But don't make them easy now. Don't make it like watermelon. And, and would be a good one.
Don't make it like spider. You know, you know what I'm saying? You understand? You got me? Uh, did people ever do that at your dad's church where they're like, pastor, I'd like to, I'd like to just say, so it happened, uh, one time I was there and, um, this was a sort of a business meeting situation where, uh, I remember I talked about the Christmas carols thing.
Okay. So Christmas carols, we go to everybody's home and you sing on Christmas Eve. It's an all night thing and people expect you to be there. They get mad.
That was the one thing you told me. They get mad when you don't. If you don't come, they're gonna get upset. Yeah. In America, if you came, we would be mad.
Yeah. Over there if you don't go. Get off my porch at 1130 at night. No, this is like three o'clock. In the morning. So you're waking them up at, or do they go to bed knowing that you're coming later? Yeah, they go to bed knowing we're coming. They leave the light on on the porch and stuff like that. They have food ready.
They have tea already, you know, like boiling. So they kind of, oh my goodness. Yeah.
Now guess what? I went last time, you know, uh, last year when my mom died. I was there in September and I asked him, I was like, so how, how does Christmas carols go? Well, we don't do it at night anymore. I was like, are you serious?
He said, yeah, the world's changed. A lot of guys don't want to come out. I mean, they want to go to go bed at like 12 o'clock at night.
So we go until like 11. Oh, okay. I said, what a shame. Yeah. But anyways, somebody missed going to this guy's house.
I can even see him right now. Oh, you can remember him. Oh, a hundred percent. I can remember that occasion when that happened.
Wow. Did they, let me ask you this. Did they, did they genuinely miss going to his house or did they air quotes miss going to his house?
No, they generally missed. Okay. They just forgot. Okay. How did you end up with your dad in the middle of a sermon? Not the sermon.
It was sort of like the business meeting. Okay. Okay. Well, we were discussing other things. Okay.
Okay. And he stood up. He had some business to discuss. This is at the end of the service.
He's about to stand on some business. So imagine this is like about the, in our, my dad's chair, there were two services. And so one at nine o'clock, nine to 10, and 10 30 to about 11 30. So 11 30 service ends and there's a business meeting.
And usually it went to like 11 40, 11 45. Every Sunday business meeting? No. Just sometimes. Sometimes. Not even every month. Okay. Sometimes. So he stands up and we have, he says, we have a complaint to make about this.
My dad already knew what had happened. And he already fussed at one of the leaders and said, Hey, we cannot miss going to people's homes. They decorate the homes, they prepare the food, they expect us to be there. You need to be there. Right.
Every member deserves that visit. So he's already addressed it. He stands up. So we have, it's a big guy, you know, we have a problem here and I want to address that right now. And my dad's like, sit down.
Really? He said, sit down. And he sat down.
I love it. The thing was with my dad, there was so much respect for him because of his love for them that they knew this, this is the man you, you, you should respect because look at what he's done. So it was not a, there was no contest. He was going to sit down. He sat down.
He sat down. This whole thing came about because last night Ryan was at play rehearsal. We're deep in play season right now. Yeah. Yeah. And we were, they were doing a scene. So this was not between scenes. He's on stage doing a scene and people are coming up to him asking questions and I wondered if that had ever happened to you when you're like doing the thing that we're here to do. It's not like, like I caught you after the sermon and asked you a question. It's like, right now I'm doing a scene. I'm in character. The scene's going on. You're coming up to me, interrupting the scene and asking questions.
Yeah. Never happened other than that lady who spoke while I'm preaching and there was this one time this dude, yeah, he didn't like say anything to me. He's still around town anyways. So he, he doesn't listen to the radio shows.
I can talk about it. He probably won't even remember. I doubt he remembers. So he would come to our church because he had a benefactor there, a benefactor in the sense that he would employ him time to time or give him a few bucks. So this guy would come and he came and sat in the very front.
That's a great way to feel important. I do some part time work for this guy, but he's not my boss or he's not a guy I help. He's my benefactor. Yeah. He was. He was. He was. He was a benefactor.
Okay. So, and this guy, the benefactor, the guy who gave money away, had like three or four guys like this that would always come looking for him. And so this particular Sunday, this gentleman who would typically come and sit towards the front, but more than likely he would be late. So he would sit in the back and then there were times that he didn't come.
This was one of those Sundays where he, when he did not come. So one of his, these guys came and sat on the second row and I would come down from the pulpit because it was such a large church that we had 500 seats. This was the original building?
Original building. Okay. Crazy, isn't it? Yeah. We had, our first church that we were at had more seats than the one we just moved out of. That's incredible. That's crazy. I'm used to preaching to big empty churches.
Now it's not, we just praise God for that. But anyways, so I would take, I would have a podium set by the front row, like a little music stand type podium. So I would come back down from the pulpit, which was pretty massive, and I would come stand over there and preach. Cause I'm like, I'm so far away and you guys are scattered sitting where you sat with your parents like 80 years ago.
So I'm coming down there. That's the thing is if it can sit 500 people, you can rest assured there's going to be people toward the edges, toward the back. I'm like, just, everybody just... And it didn't make any sense. It didn't make any sense.
Why? Until one day I found out, it was like, oh, that's where I sat with my parents 80 years ago, 70 years ago. This was our spot. I'm like, oh, that makes sense because I'm like two people here. I knew exactly where they would sit.
Four over there, three here, one outlier over there by himself. If you went to that building today and it was still laid out the exact same, could you, you could point out where each of those people sat. Absolutely.
Absolutely. And this dude came and sat on the second row right in front of my podium. Which was unheard of.
Unheard of. So here's what happens. Five minutes into my sermon, he's like, where's my money daddy? What?
Yeah. So he wants to know if the guy who gives money away or the one who hires me time to time for some odd jobs is there. Guess what he does? I'm standing here preaching to this congregation.
This is the second row. He's sitting here. He stands up and he stands and he looks for the guy looking around exactly like that. And I'm standing here preaching and the guy is in front of me looking, looking for some cash. Where's my daddy? Where's my sugar daddy?
So where? So, okay, wait, is the benefactor still living? He did. Gone. Okay. Okay. Rest in peace. Yeah.
Rest in peace. But the guy who stood up. He was a Morgan saved guy. The benefactor was. Okay.
Okay. But the guy who stood up looking for the money. I don't know anything much about him other than he wanted his money. Yeah.
He wanted his money. And I was like, and I'm preaching. It's like, so Jesus went by the Sea of Galilee and he's just like, exactly. But keep in mind, he's like second row, right? This is the first row. He's right here standing directly in front of you with 500 seats, 475 of them are empty. And he finds a spot right in front of me. Why would he even sit there? Why wouldn't he just look in the back for the money, daddy?
Why would he come up front, sit down and then who knows? This went on for like good 10 seconds. But when you're up there, 10 seconds is a long time. It feels like an eternity.
Yes, it does. And I'm like, and the people, the two ladies who are sitting behind him, they always sat there. They're too living, by the way. Those two are still living.
Still living? Yes, they are. Are you too silly? Solid reference. Very nice.
Thank you, my friend. So he's blocking them from seeing me because they also sat on the fourth row, right in the middle. So now they can't see. They can't see that they're like. He wants some money. They can't see it all. They're looking around him. And I'm going, would you please sit down? Would you please sit down? And finally, he just got up and walked out because he didn't see his guy. So it was the weirdest thing.
That's bizarre. I think you've done a good job. We talked a little bit yesterday about establishing a culture at church. We've talked about it on the show before. I think you've done a great job of establishing a culture.
And I don't know if the culture is you better not do this. It's really more like I have no desire to stand up and talk to the pastor or interrupt the service. I think in my 13 years being here, I may have seen it done once, definitely, maybe twice, but I can't name like a second time. The only time I can remember is, and it happened, it didn't happen, the preacher had a communion where during communion, and I remember my mom was there. My mom would come at that time. She was only coming like once a month or so. And my mom was there and I wasn't in there when it happened. My mom texted me, why did she just do that?
Like with five question marks. And I was like, I better get in that sanctuary. So I remember coming in there and, but she had stood up during the communion and said, I think this is a good time for me to share my, I have something to share. I have something to share. It was my testimony. I know.
It's our passing out. Dr. Shaw is like praying over the food, the bread and the juice, and we're getting ready to pass it out. And she's, that's when I want to share something about my story. And maybe, maybe she had a story and maybe she came from a church where it was okay and acceptable to do that, but not here because I don't, plus I don't know you.
I'm not sure who you are and what you're going to say. I've had people once in a while say things when they came up to pray, but I know who they are. So usually they would come up and they come up and say, Hey, what Pastor Shaw said today really made a difference in my life. That's pretty common. But I think, and I don't know, cause I haven't been to many, I haven't been to a wide variety of churches. I think in my life, I've only ever been to three or four that I've gone to regularly have visited, but never have I seen it be a commonplace thing where people would stand up and just begin talking.
When it was the, it was the push behind it too. Like I don't have a choice, but to share this, God told me I have to share this like, okay. So that's, that's something too, maybe we can kind of talk about that. We got a few more minutes left, but how do you react to people who are like, God is telling, cause there are some people who have come in and done this where it's like, God is telling me to do this outlandish thing.
It happens. Unfortunately, it happens in churches and it's kind of sad because it is people who haven't walked with God, don't know God, and then they come to know Christ. And then all of a sudden they know God and they feel like they have to make up for lost time.
They feel like they need to just follow every urge, every inkling, anything that little tap on the shoulder, they feel that I need to do something. God is telling me to do something. I need, I better do something because all these years I didn't listen to God. Now I'm listening to God.
I need to do something. So with people like that, I have to be careful. And in the sense I have to be kind to them and say, I hear what you're saying.
Like one lady wanted to work with youth and she felt like, and not like she wanted to work with youth. It's more like, I feel for these children, my heart goes, I'm just crying. And I was like, I understand.
I know it's God's giving you burden. No, you don't understand. I mean, I want to, I mean, I want to talk to them and I want to explain to them. I think she was feeling a lot of remorse, maybe a lot of conviction over her past life. And so now she felt like I need to stop these young people from making the same mistakes that I did. And as much as I understand and I feel for her, I didn't feel like that would help those young people. Yeah. I see exactly what you're saying because it's like, I can understand and I can empathize, but that doesn't, I can't be, I can't pretend to be on board. Yeah.
You know what I mean? And she got upset with me. Wow. Because I was not letting her do something that obviously God was laying on her heart to do. And I'm thinking, I know, I'm grateful that God is moving you, but it just cannot be done.
Right. And it was, it was very frustrating. I've had other people do the same thing too. That's the thing is like, I don't know if people do that on purpose or if it's just genuine emotion, like where they really feel, they truly in their hearts feel that this is right. Like people will attach so much meaning, especially the songs that's, I really feel you on that because people still, I think to this day, I don't, I feel probably always do it, but it's always like, this song is so special. This song has transformed my life and you're hearing it's like a casting crowns, like K love like radio song that has no biz. Like it's a great song, has no problem with the song, but it's like a hundred percent not appropriate for congregational worship. This is not a song that we would sing in service inappropriate just cause it doesn't make sense. It just does not make sense. Like I love the way you hold me.
I love the way you, we're not singing that in Sunday morning worship, but they're so attached to it and they truly feel God placed this song in my life and you have to get on board with that or else you're going against God. Yeah. Yeah.
And stuff like that. I just, I only want to start a ministry and they want us to get a hundred percent behind it. And I'm like, okay, I do want to support you in this ministry, but let's start small. Now, if I know the person and I know they have done this ministry for a while and this, we'll just kind of, you know, but weave in and just really take off and people get behind it and you're not going to stop it once you get bored with it. Yeah, of course. I think there's a lot of, I think there's a lot of church goers who would listen to this episode and be like, wow, really?
I didn't know y'all felt that way. And there's a lot of ministry leaders listening to this episode that's going preach on brother and say, you are fighting a good fight, pastor. I feel for people like that and I remind our, you know, our pastor's friends, just love on them and, but know at the end of the day, you have to please God. That's right.
Yes. And if this is going to make a mockery of that service, then stand your ground and say, no, I'm sorry. I'll tell you what, we're going to have a fellowship dinner coming up if you want to do that. Let's do that first. Let's see how that goes. And then we can try it here.
You know, do something like give them some steps to work through or some nursing home ministry we have, you know, I want you to come sing there because people will give you and also give you a chance to just learn the audience and see how it feels and doing that once they will realize, oh, I don't think I want to do this. Right. Right. Another wise thing that I think you've done, we talked about it yesterday, is you lay out your vision and your, what do you call it, the mission and the vision and the core values. You lay it out.
It's on the wall for people to see when they walk in. So you always have that to fall back on that says, listen, this goes against our core values or this is not really a part of our vision here at Clearview. So I think that's a very wise move as well. Thank you. Yeah. So it's all about establishing that culture because everything falls in line with that culture and it, you know, it helps drive the bus.
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