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That's right. Jesus is approached by these two onlookers. Him and his disciples, they're about to get in this boat and cross over the Sea of Galilee.
And one of the disciples, he asked him, he said, you know what? I want to come with you. Where do I do? Where do I go?
How do I, how do I go with you? And Jesus says this, and he's not shutting the guy down, like saying, hey, you can't come with me. What he's saying is this is not going to make you rich and famous. This is not going to be an easy life. You're going to have to really count the cost of the Christian life. And I think this is a message that I sometimes forget, especially when the ministry is growing, when things are going well, I forget that this is a costly and, um, I don't want to say difficult life, but it is, it's just a very costly life. Yeah.
I don't think difficult is, is the wrong word for it. I mean, it is, it is, I love it and I can't imagine doing anything else, but it is difficult at times, but it's so worth it. It's so rewarding. And Jesus was reminding him there. He's like, Hey, your rewards will not be temporary. Your rewards will not be what I mean by that is here on earth, temporal.
Uh, they won't be physical, but your rewards will be in heaven. It's a reminder too. I mean, this is Jesus essentially saying that he doesn't have a home. He doesn't have a place to call his own and it's a reminder of God being homeless. Exactly. But it's a reminder that, you know, this life, while we're called to be the salt of the earth and the light of the world, this is not our home. This is not our final destination. And we are meant for eternity with God in heaven. A hundred percent.
Well said, uh, speaking of things that cost a lot, I saw something this morning as I was getting ready, we had a, we had a whole episode planned for today and I said, I saw this Tik TOK and I said, man, I think I can, I can really, we can make a good episode out of this because I saw something on Tik TOK. Um, regarding a wedding, you're married. I am. I'm married. You're married. We've both, David is not. David is not married, which is fine.
That's fine. Uh, we've both had weddings. Yes. Weddings can be quite the expensive endeavor.
They can. I want to show you this Tik TOK and I just want to get your feel for, for, uh, I just want to get your feel for it. Okay. All right.
So tell me if I'm tripping or not. So me and my fiance, we are getting married, right? And to be a part of our wedding, you have to pay $450 for a ticket and that's for each guest.
So we invited friends and family to our wedding. Tell me why. Hold on a second. I want to make sure I am. I'm absorbing that correctly.
Yeah. To be a part of our wedding, you have to pay $450. So if you, and, and I, when he says be a part of it, he doesn't mean be in the, he means like attend, right? This is not like bridal party. This is like, if you want to come and see us get married, you have to pay $450. Don't take the kids. That's $900 for you.
How much is it? If you do take the kids, hold on one second. Uh, you got four 50 times seven, four 50 times seven, bro.
You're paying $3,000 to go watch this guy get married. I already have opinions, but let's, let's watch the video. We already have spun 100. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Pause right there.
Pause right there. He said spun as in the past tense of spent, but you want me to, you've spun spend. We, we, we spend money or we have spun 200 K, but you want me to pay 450 to go. Okay. All right.
Go for it, man. Let me have spun 100, maybe almost close to $200,000 on the wedding. We have already pre-ordered the cake.
We already put down a deposit for the video. That's not a lot. That's, I mean, that's a lot, but that's, that's a huge gap by the way. How do you, how do you be like, we've spent 100, maybe close to 200. That's double is sending me. I can understand if he was like nine 190, maybe close to 200. He was like, we've spent close to 100 K, maybe close to 200 K. It's like, bro, that's such a huge, huge. That's literally double wages. I'm sorry, David.
Everything for the wedding, DJ, photographer, everything. Great. And I love that for you.
What I don't understand is, is that y'all spend 400 more money, more money on stupid stuff, but you can't come out to support your family, your friends at a wedding. Like tell me if I'm wrong. You're wrong. You're wrong. Yeah.
You're a hundred percent wrong. Like, let me know, let me know because y'all pay for tickets. Beyonce tickets, a thousand dollar tickets. Y'all going to go meet Chris Brown for a thousand something dollars.
But when it comes to your friends, no way Beyonce tickets are a thousand dollars. They probably are. You think so? Yeah. Like these, wow.
Like we like the way this ain't cheap. Like, like, like what's going on? Like I don't get it. Like let us know what's up. Like I really, really want to know.
Okay. You really want to know. I'll tell you really want to go for it, Ryan. You lay them out. I have got to go handle this dude.
Go, go, go for it. Um, number one, I'm not going to, I'm not going to call names, but that position that you just took, which was not bolstered by your use of the word spunt, not a word by the way, the past tense of a spend is spent. That's right.
Not spunt. He's right. Um, you are absolutely egregiously disgustingly mistaken. If you think people are going to pay $450 per person to come to your wedding. The thing is you are a lunatic. You, it's a sad truth. It's a sad truth, but they care more about going. And I hate to tell you this, but they, they care more about going to see Beyonce than they do coming to see your wedding.
I hate to say it. Also, I hate to say also, if, if they go see Beyonce, they're going to get a performance. They're paying to see a performance. They're not paying to come watch you married, the love of your life, as much as they love you as much as they want to support you. They do that by attending and by giving you a wedding present. That's how you support.
Maybe they'll give you a little bit of cash. Yeah. It's not your wedding guest's job to compensate you for the cost of your wedding.
That's true, man. If we, if we are, if we are, uh, now, if I'm paying you to come to this wedding, I'm expecting you to serve me. You understand what I'm saying? This is a service. When I paid beyond, I don't go see Beyonce, but when I pay to go see a concert, that person owes me a performance.
I have paid for a service and I expect to get it. If I just paid the band to walk out on stage and say, Hey, and shake each other's hands. No, absolutely not. I'm not paying money for that. Yeah.
Yeah. They, they owe me because I paid. So if I'm paying to come to your wedding, you owe me brother. And what are you going to, what are you going to do? What are you going to do?
It is also, I'm going to circle back to this. It is not the responsibility of your wedding guests to compensate you for the cost of your wedding. The, the, the cost of the wedding falls to the people getting married.
Most of the time it falls to their parents. Calm down. Are you getting heated? I'm irritated. I'm irritated. I'm sorry. Let me get you a cold one.
Let me calm down. Let me take, let me make sure I still have my $450 in my pocket because I, for sure I'm not coming to your wedding for $450. That's not, I'm a wish you the best. I'm going to pray for you from a distance. And you know what's sad, man, your friends and family ain't coming to your wedding either. I would drop if I hope this, this was posted not very long ago, maybe like a week ago.
I hope you didn't drop that price, man. Cause I want your parents to come to your wedding. You know, this brings up an important point.
We need to go to commercial, but this brings up an important point. People spend a lot of money on weddings, lots of money on weddings, but what you should be doing is investing in your marriage. Cause a wedding is over in, in a couple of hours. Your marriage is the rest of your life. Yeah.
So you know what I mean? My wife ate, we had like food and stuff at the party, but you know what we had? We had Burger King on the floor of our new house. We didn't eat a mouthful of our wedding dinner. Just no time.
She, she sat there in her wedding dress and ate Burger King. That's a true story. If you would take that deal, or if you think people should, or if you have, if you have opinions on this, I want to hear your opinions because we can't be operating in isolation. Write and let us know your opinions. Especially if you would pay $450 to go support your friend. I want to hear from you.
Justify your position immediately. I want to hear from you. 252-582-5028. Or you can visit us online at clearviewtodayshow.com. Stay tuned. We'll be right back. Hello Clearview family.
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It's 100% free on the Apple Store and Google Play Store. And best of all, all of our content is right there in one convenient spot. Make sure you download the Clearview app today and let's get back to the show. Welcome back to Clearview today with Dr. Abbadan Shah, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ. You can visit us online at ClearviewTodayShow.com or if you have any questions or suggestions for new topics, send us a text to 252-582-5028. That's right. We're here once again in the Clearview Today studio with Dr. Abbadan Shah, who is a PhD in New Testament textual criticism, professor at Carolina University, author, full-time pastor, and the host of today's episode, Dr. Shah. Someone invited you to a wedding.
Okay. A wedding, right? And then they said, hey, I really want you to be there. It'd mean a lot to me.
We've been friends for years. It's $450 per person to attend the wedding. So I have to pay? To go to the wedding. That's, that's the ticket. Now, you know, I do so many weddings and people pay me. Yeah, right, right. I don't charge for weddings or funerals.
They both are sad, but I mean, I don't know. Let's get it. No, weddings are great. I love weddings, but I don't charge, but they pay for me. So it's kind of hard to say, but no, if I was just an objective, you're just a nominal person attending, unless it's like my family and they need this money to rent this venue. And without that, it's not going to happen. So everybody has to chip in, maybe you would do it.
So I was going to say, imagine if, if your sister, uh, emailed you or texted or called you and said, Hey, we're getting married. I've already spent 200 K I'm not gonna lie. I'm 200,000. No, I'm not paying anything.
That was, that was what I said. Like if it's family, like if they need the money, then yeah. But if you've landed yourself in this, I don't want $200,000 and you need more. She says, I don't, I don't want 200 K from you. I just want the 450 per person.
So Nicole, that's 900. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope.
Nope. I will look forward to seeing the pictures after. I would say let's, let's, uh, let's de-skill your wedding. Let's do it. I'm already so heavy in debt. It'll be free. Let's do it in the fellowship hall. Your reception will be free.
Let's use a 200,000 to put a down payment on something like a house, like a car. Not a party. Yeah. Not a party.
You don't need to be in Hawaii. We, uh, we asked your wife off mic before we started recording. And when I say vehemently against paying to go to a wedding. Yeah. She was offended at being asked.
Yeah. She, she didn't even want to be asked. She wasn't like, you were like, well, I guess maybe I wouldn't like it, but I would do it. And Nicole was like, oh, no. I was like, thank you.
She's just making noises now. Well, you got to, when, when somebody invites you to something like that, there's a cost involved. You got to count the cost and see if it's worth it to actually attend.
If it's, if it's, you know, if it's someone's wedding, obviously you want to be there for that person. But do I care enough about you to drop $450 after you've already landed yourself in this position for maybe irresponsible financial choices? We watched, we watched a tick talk about it. And the thing that was funny to me was the guy was, it wasn't like he was baffled.
He was angry. He was like, y'all, y'all just spend money on stupid stuff and y'all care. But when it comes to y'all friends and family, it's like, nah, buddy, nah, I was already kind of on the fence just about coming to the wedding if it was free. You are in the wrong and we will gladly remind you of that. Have you ever counted the cost of something, Dr. Shah, where you got up there, I think we've talked about this before, like you got up to the register, you got up to whatever decision you were about to make and you were like, you know what, this, I'm not, I'm not doing this.
Yeah. It depends on what, what it is. If it's something very precious, valuable, I will not get another opportunity. You know, I travel across the world and I will come across a great deal on this, this book, this antique book or something that I think this statue or this thing will be great. Then I have to kind of go back and look at my finances and say, okay, I think I can afford this. I was going to buy this and this. I guess that's, that's out.
This is going to be, so I, I will do that mental calculation before I get to the desk before I get to the checkout desk. Yeah, I'm thinking of a time, I don't know if you remember this, but we went to, for a converged college and career, we went to a water park and I had spent most of the month leading up to it saying, I'll ride anything at a water park, no problem at all. And a rollercoasters I don't do, but a water park I'll do anything. And I remember we got there and we saw the daredevil drop and everybody was like, Oh, let's do it. Let's do it. And we got there and I was like, Dr. Shaw, will you do it? And he was like, yeah, I think I'll do it.
I'll get Nicole to like take a video of it or whatever. And I remember getting there and seeing the shit, it's like 76 feet tall. It's like 80 feet tall. And I remember getting there and I looked at the slide and I looked at Dr. Shaw and Dr. Shaw looked at me and then he looked at the slide and we looked at each other and I think we both realized like, this ain't happening. No, I, I, I was going to like, this is gonna look so cool.
You know, Facebook, everybody's going to be like, look at that pastor. Yeah. I was like, no, not happening. I don't care. Same thing.
It's all right. Same exact thing. People don't usually count the cost when it comes to following Christ.
Right. I mean, we're talking, we're kind of joking, making light of things, but when it comes to like actually following Jesus and what it means to take up the mantle of the Christian life, sometimes people don't really know what that entails. It's just like, Hey, I don't have to go to hell. Cool. That sounds great. But there's much more involved in actually, you know, following through with after salvation, after the point of salvation, then the Christian life actually begins.
Maybe you can speak to that Dr. Shaw, cause we hear so much, you know, salvation full and free. It's a free gift. Yeah. So how could it also have a cost?
You know what I mean? I believe you need to count the cost. Okay.
What are you willing to give up in order to be saved? Right. It does not mean you have to give up in order to be saved. There's a big difference between counting the cost and actually paying for it. That's right.
That's right. Counting the cost is doing that math in your head that this may cost me my family. This may cost me my friendships. This may cost me this than the other, but I'm already willing to put those on the altar so I can have Christ and salvation and eternal life. Paying is what sometimes what we call the lordship salvation perspective. Okay. Lordship salvation pretty much says you should give up everything to follow Christ. Right. Right. And I think that's, that's bordering on discipleship. You know that actually that becomes discipleship.
Right. What they're saying is discipleship comes before evangelism and that's not correct. Discipleship comes before evangelism. Right. Because discipleship is a process of learning how to follow Christ. Discipleship is a process of becoming like Christ.
Right. And becoming like Christ means learning to die to yourself. Really reckoning yourself dead.
Like counting the fact that you are dead. It's not about you. It's not about your life. It's not about your wants, your desires, your needs.
It's about Christ. And it's a tough process to learn how to die. Right. So the giving up doesn't actually, that's not what saves us. It's not me saying I'm willing to give up all this stuff, therefore I'm saved. Right. Right.
It's not that. And I think that's where lordship salvation, I cannot follow lordship salvation. Although I tell people you need to receive Jesus as your savior and your Lord or you need to receive Jesus as your savior and your master or savior and king.
But I don't mean the same thing as the lordship salvation people are saying. What they're saying is you should receive him as your savior and your Lord, meaning that he already now is controlling every area of your life. He's already controlling. And if he's not controlling, that's where the problem comes with lordship salvation.
Because I agree with them. He should be controlling. Yes.
But if you say that he is controlling, I don't think I can be saved. Because there may be something in my life that I haven't, that I'm struggling to give up. I still have to learn to give that up. Right.
Yeah. A process of learning what it means to die to yourself. So if I can't check off all those boxes, then I haven't reached, according to this, I haven't reached the point of salvation. You're not saved. I didn't even think about that. That's a good point. Yeah. So it's like, you know, promised land is not heaven.
Right. Israel is not heaven. Israel is the Christian life. So when you enter Israel via the Jordan River, that's like getting saved and you becoming Christian. Now you have to take on Jericho. Okay. And you have to take on AI and then the rest of the cities all over Israel.
Right. So for me to say, he should be the master of your life. Lordship salvation, people are saying all these cities now belong to God.
That's a great comparison. Will you say it one more time? Lordship salvation, people say, when they talk about Jesus being your savior and your master, what they're really saying is that all these cities belong to God. I would say technically no. Philosophically yes.
Yes. The promised land has already been given to the people of Israel, the Ammonites, the iniquity of the Ammonites is complete. They are done. They need to be driven out.
Their time is up. Those cities belong to the people of God. But we have to fight to take those cities. To retrieve them, to get them.
To get them. Starting with Jericho, which was an easy one, but then it became harder from there. So also the Christian life. When you say Jesus is my savior and my Lord, what you're saying is, yes, they do belong to every area of my life. My thoughts, my money, my education, my talents, my resources, my body, everything belongs to Jesus Christ. But it does not mean that at this moment it belongs to him.
I have to learn. Maybe my wallet belongs to him. Maybe my mouth belongs to him.
I don't cuss like I used to cuss. But does that mean my thoughts completely belong to him? Does that mean my time is really belonging to him?
No. That is a discipleship. And lordship salvation people would say, well, if it doesn't belong to him, then you're not saved. So can you sin? Would they say that you're allowed to sin? They would say, yes, you can sin and you can repent and get back. But it puts a level of requirement that's really discipleship. So you're not?
Why not? Do you not understand what it means to be saved? And it's like, yes, but don't understand what it means to cross the Jordan and be in the promised land. And this is now our land. But I still have to fight for these cities. So if you're telling me that I'm not saved, if I haven't surrendered all these areas, does that mean I was so far?
Maybe I thought I was standing on this side of Jordan, but I was standing on the trans side of Jordan, the other side of Jordan. That's what lordship salvation people would say. Now somebody who's listening will go, man, y'all are just like, you know, fussing over how many angels can dance on the head of a needle, you know, like it don't matter or something doesn't matter. But if you think about it, it doesn't matter. It does because how many times has a pastor said from the pulpit, hey, listen, you don't have to get your act cleaned up to come to Jesus. You don't have to get everything in order.
I'm guessing there are some people who are implying, yeah, you kind of do. You have to repent of all that stuff first, then come to Jesus. And I say repentance is not just a change of direction. Repentance is a change of mind.
That's a great point. Change of what I think, what I think about who, what I think about my sins, what I think about my savior, right? And so repentance is a change of mind. And I like the way you said that too. It's not just that, hey, I've given this up, I've done what's right, but I'm willing to do it.
I'm willing to follow you. And I think that reveals, how did you say that reveals how much we understand and are committed to the gospel. I just raised how sincere and how committed we are to follow Christ our King. Great point.
I love that. And I'm willing to be in this fight till the day I die. And I know I cannot do it, but God has to teach me and he teaches me what it means to die. Although I reckon myself dead, right?
I have counted that, but it is being worked out. It is being worked out through trials in my life. It's been worked out through where God allows things to be taken away from me and painful situations, circumstance.
Those are the processes of death. And in that walk of dying, which is already, I have reckoned, I'm learning how to be one with Christ. I'm learning and I cannot be one with Christ if I'm still trying to live.
So I've learned how to die. And in the dying is when I recognize, or I realize really realize what it means to live in the power of the Holy Spirit. There's a great verse that I used to think about in one way.
And now I think about it another way. I can't remember where it is, but it's where Jesus says how hard it is for a rich man or those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God. And very similar to Mark chapter 10 is what you're referring to.
So let's go over there. Mark chapter 10, verse 17. Now, as Jesus was going out on the road, one came running, knelt down before him and asked him, good teacher, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? Then Jesus looked around and said to his disciples, how hard it is for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God. Verse 26. And they were greatly astonished saying among themselves, who then can be saved?
So. The first thing we see here is that Jesus did not immediately lead this man in the sinner's prayer. Good point. You know, when that's exactly what we do, when he said, what should I do to inherit eternal life? I would have said, OK, let's acknowledge that you're a sinner.
Jesus is the savior. Get the piano playing real soft in the background. Open your Bible to the book of Romans. Get the pad.
Get the pad going and see. Yeah. He didn't do any of that. Instead, he began to dialog with him. And what is interesting to me is that this man was under conviction, but he was not ready to make a commitment to Christ. Good point.
Big difference between conviction and commitment. He had a wrong understanding of Jesus. Jesus was more than just a good teacher because his address to Jesus is good teacher.
And Jesus wanted him to know that he is not just a good teacher. He is God in flesh. He is the promised one. He is the Messiah they've been waiting for. Yeah. He's the one who's going to come and down the cross for their sins.
Right. And so Jesus was not ready to lead him in the sinner's prayer because he was not aware of who Jesus was. He didn't have the gravity of this decision he was about to make. I mean, truly, I know it's kind of on the nose, but he had not counted the cost.
He didn't know that it was going to cost him anything. Even then he says, what can I do to inherit eternal life? Like, I just want it to come to me.
I just want to get it. Right. Something else important I want to kind of in a side note point out is I just said, you know, Jesus did not lead him in the sinner's prayer. People say, yeah, that's right. Sinner's prayer.
There's no sinner's prayer in the Bible. I had a guy come. I knew him from years past and he started coming to church here.
This has been years ago. And then one Sunday evening, I think it is a Wednesday night. I can't remember. I think Wednesday night, he came over and said, I really need to talk to you.
So I thought this man was struggling or he was going through, he needed some counseling or he needed some encouragement or prayer. So I'm like, yeah, brother, come on in. Let's sit down and talk. He said, I don't know where to begin. Why in the world would you say that? I said, what in the world? Oh, he said, pastor at all. I'm so disappointed.
Why in the world would you say that? I said, what do you mean? I said, he said last Sunday or some, some service prior, you know, you said, you know, say the sinner's prayer. You know, where is the sinner's prayer? I mean, we are misleading people out here telling them to pray the sinner's prayer, like all this magical mumbo jumbo that's going to get them into heaven.
Just say the prayer and you, you know, the pearly gates of heaven fly open for them. I said, wait a minute, wait a minute. What are you really saying? Is this a reason why you wanted to see me? I'm just, I'm just struggling. I'm just, I'm here. I'm here. Come on.
I mean, explain to me. I said, let me just say this. Let's say you want to be saved. What do you do? He said, the Bible says very clearly call upon the name of the Lord.
What do you think? What does that mean when you talk to God? I guess it's a prayer. Oh, hold on one second. I didn't have a ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. I should have done this.
I should have done that while he was waiting. I was looking for the ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Yeah. I'm like, so it's a prayer, right? It is.
It is. I said, well, when I say sinner's prayer, I'm not giving you some magical formula. What I'm saying is talk to God. Tell him you need to be saved.
The words don't have to be accurate. Your heart needs to be accurate. The heart should say, I'm a wretched sinner.
I don't have any hope. I need Jesus in my life. I need him to save me. I need him to forgive me of my sins.
I believe in his death, burial, resurrection. So the whole point is Jesus did not lead this man, this young man in some road prayer. He simply challenged his understanding of who he was.
Not good teacher. He is a son of God. Fully God became fully man as prophesied in scripture as divinely ordained before the world was created. This is who he is.
He's God in flesh. And so that's where it begins. I guess we need another episode. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.
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