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We're going to leave a link in the description so you can do just that. The verse of the day today is coming to you from Luke 8, verse 16. No one, when he has lit a lamp, covers it with a vessel or puts it under a bed, but sets it on a lampstand that those who enter may see the light. Yeah, because why would you?
Why would you do that for? That just don't make no sense. You know what they say. He is the light, light, light, light of the world, and he shine, shine, shines all over the earth. He is the light, shine, all over the earth, shining bright, bright, bright. He is the light of the world.
And guess what? I'm going to tell him something. He's the light of the world? You're the light of the world.
Oh, I need a sound effect for that. Hold on one second. What do I got? What do I got? Oh, wow.
No, that's not good. Hey, look, Jesus says, you are the light of the world. Nobody has this great thing, this great gift of salvation, and just keeps it to themselves. You are called to go out and shine that light. That is your duty, not just a good thing to do, not a nice thing for your fellow brother in Christ.
That is a duty that you have. And the beautiful picture there, like Jesus is the light of the world. We are the light of the world.
How does that all work out? The lamp itself does not glow. The shade, the base, that does not glow in the dark. The lamp produces light. So we are the vessel that then carries the light of Christ into the world. So we, as the light, shine forth like a lamp, shining the light of Christ in our lives. And we do that in our interactions with people, in our words, in the things that we post online. Hopefully you guys paid extra attention to that one.
Give us an emphasis on that, because we're talking to you. In the comments that we leave, in the pages that we follow. Maybe sometimes y'all send some hurtful comments to 2525825028. I don't know. Maybe some of y'all need to quit.
No hurtful comments there. But it's a good reminder for us to check our actions and check our motivations in everything that we do, because we are called to be the light of the world. That's right. And we want you guys to know that you can download all of these verses on your phone with the Date the Word app. They're a partial sponsor of today's show.
We're going to leave a couple of links right here in the description, so you can follow that. I'm sorry I'm distracted. There's a police chase happening on the news, and I was watching this guy jump over a fence. But we're not going to talk about that right now. We got a great show for you guys today. We're going to go ahead and grab Dr. Shah. Come in here in a second. Let's take a break, because I want to see.
I think this dude's going to get caught. Stay tuned. We'll be right back after this.
You can text in 2525825028, or visit us online at cliftonation.com. They got him. Got him. There he is. Hey, what's going on, listeners? My name is John.
And I'm Ellie. And we just want to take a second and let you know about Dr. Shah's new book on the market right now called Can We Recover the Original Text of the New Testament. Boy, that is a long title. True, but it's a very simple message. The original text of the New Testament is not only attainable, but there are lots of different ways that scholars go about discovering it. There's a lot of people out there saying that the original text is lost forever, or that it's hopeless to actually try to find it, or that there's many texts of the New Testament. But alongside Dr. David Allen Black, Dr. Shah has actually compiled papers from some of the world's leading experts in textual criticism, including one written by himself on various methodologies for extracting the original text. And listen, if you're interested in textual criticism, this book is a great introduction to the field. You can pick up your copy on Amazon, or you can buy it from our church website. That's ClearviewBC.org. We're going to leave a link in the description box so you can get your copy today.
Love that. Ellie, let's hop back in. Let's do it. Welcome back to Clearview Today with Dr. Abaddon Shah, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ. You can visit us online at ClearviewTodayShow.com, or if you have any questions or suggestions for new topics, send us a text at 252-582-5028.
That's right, and we're here once again in the Clearview Today studio with Dr. Abaddon Shah, who is a PhD in New Testament textual criticism, professor at Carolina University, author, full-time pastor, and the host of today's show, Dr. Shah. Happy Friday, my friend. Yay! We're here once again. It's Friday. It's Friday, Friday. I've got to get down on Friday.
Oh, I wish you hadn't said that. Everybody's looking forward to the weekend, my friend. It's good to see you. We've been going through our saga in merry old England. I was trying to think of something clever. Where are we going with this? I was trying to think of something clever, and I couldn't get to it at the time. Our European epic.
Our Europe? Golly, that's nice. Thank you. I appreciate that. I'll leave the segue to you. You take it. I worked on it for about five seconds.
You take it. We're talking about, Dr. Shah, of course, your recent trip to England, all the things you were able to see, and the things that we're able to learn and grow from, talking about the history of our nation, talking about the history of the church, where we've come from as believers. There's so much that you guys were able to see and take part in.
Yeah, it was purposefully designed. It was not just that we just randomly went out there to do that. I knew what I wanted to see. I knew where I wanted to film. I knew where I was going to use this the next coming Sunday, six months from now, a year from now, five years from now.
Again, I'm not bragging. That's just how I think. I feel like, don't just go and have a vacation, have a purpose behind it. That's right, have a plan. And I know Nicole does not enjoy that at times. She's told me, when our anniversary comes, we're going to some beach resort, no filming, no planning, nothing.
We're doing just like this chilling, relaxing, eating, hanging out thing. I was like, but I'm going to bring my phone. I can always film with my phone, because there may be something someone came to that Caribbean island. And I can film on that.
You've got to, man. No, that is right out. So last day of, well, not the last day of the trip, but- Last part. Last part. Last leg of the journey. I can't remember where we left off. We left off with- We left off at the London Museum, which is now closed, and it's going to be remodeled and reopened whenever that happens. But right outside the London Museum, which is right on Alder's Gate, is that massive flame that, I think made out of bronze, I think it is, but that massive flame that has the testimony of John Wesley's conversion.
Yeah, where he talks about being strangely warmed because of this period. And I wanted to go there. I was like, before they take down that museum, and then they may put it in a warehouse somewhere, I want to see that flame, stand before it, do this testimony and then leave. Because who knows, that London Museum may take 10 years to rebuild. That would be, imagine, 10 years from now looking for. And will they even put it back? Who knows what London's or England's culture is going to be like then? Will they even put that Wesley flame back?
Or they will, I don't know. So going there was a good idea. That's awesome. Where do you go from there? From there, it was like time was running out. And I'm like, the cemetery closes at seven, which didn't. It didn't close. But my watch was saying it closed at seven. And now we are like at 5.15.
And we're at this, we got to go. And so I called in a taxi, and we made our way to Bunhill Cemetery or Bunhill Row. And at this cemetery, as you can see in the picture there, this is the map in that cemetery, you see a lot of important names. You see right in the middle is John Bunyan. He was a Baptist minister.
He was kind of Puritan minded. And that's who I wanted to visit. So his grave is there. Also, Susanna Wesley, as you can see directly behind her, behind him is her grave. You can see further back is John Gill over here, right?
You see that. And then on this side, you have Bayes. I think that's the guy from the Bayes theorem. That's Bayes. Over here, as you can see, Blake, William Blake and Daniel Defoe, Robinson Crusoe.
His grave is there. Also Thomas Goodwin, who was a Puritan, a writer. I'm not against Puritans. Anybody don't think that. I actually like Puritans.
I think a lot of good stuff they did. So don't misunderstand me. So he's there. Also Owen. I wonder who Owen is. That's John Owen, huh? The death of death and the death of Christ. He is a Puritan.
He was a tremendous writer, a great thinker. So a lot of Puritans are buried in this Bunhill Row. That's awesome. I just looked it up. That is Bayes from Bayes theorem. That's Thomas Bayes. That's awesome.
I didn't record anything on Bayes. I mean, it was like, well, no time, but I did. John helped me tremendously.
Bunyan, Wesley, Gill, Owen, Blake, Defoe, Goodwin. I did them all. That's awesome. And then of course we went across the street and other graves I couldn't get to because it was kind of, there's doing some renovation there, but then we went across the street and went to John Wesley's chapel, but that was closed because it was already six o'clock, seven o'clock. But I definitely filmed there as well. And then that's where he's buried. He's buried there.
Nice. I could not get to the grave, but it's close enough. And if you look carefully, I may be wrong.
Either that is the grave of John Wesley or the grave is over there. You'll see it once my pictures start moving, but you'll see it's there. So it's there. Wow. Very cool. It was a great, I'm so glad we did this. And once we did this, we came back, went out to eat.
The next day we left and it was important for me to go by two places. One was F.B. Meyer's church. Yeah, that's a big one.
Christ church. That's a big one. And the second was Roland Hill's ring or Surrey chapel.
And I was able to do both. I didn't know much about Roland Hill, but you gave me a book. It was a collection of F.B. Meyer's sermons on 1 Samuel. And man, I gotta say when I read that, I was like, golly. You ever just read stuff that these guys, the greats have written and you just feel super inadequate? F.B.
Meyer especially. In my opinion was a better writer than even Charles Spurgeon. When I read that, I read like maybe eight or nine of those sermons on 1 Samuel. I was like, golly.
I'll never be able to write like this guy. Wow. Yeah.
Well, I wanted to go by here. This is the memorial stone for Christ Church, which sort of merged with Surrey Chapel, Roland Hill's church. So this was a memorial. This was like their steeple. It's no longer Christ Church. There's another church.
It's an oasis church or something like that. I think they're doing fine. But anyways, that's where I wanted to go by. And I did.
I'm very happy with myself. I love it. Yeah, having done that. And then we went off long walk and came to the ring. The ring.
There it is. Now, I got to say, even for back then, it was built in 1793. The ring is a fantastic name for a church. Yeah. I can't believe someone in the 1700s named it that. That's pretty stinking cool. A great moniker. Yeah. And it became a boxing ring.
Very nice. And then it became like a gymnasium. And unfortunately today is just a pub. And I was like, let's go in there neat. I'm like, no, I'm not going to do that.
I'm just not going to do that. Because that was a church. Right. Yeah.
And now it's just a pub. Yeah. But they kept the name. They kept the name, the ring.
Yeah. And the only thing that really got me, I still have no understanding. Why in the world is boxing upside down?
I was just about to say that. I was like, that word is upside down. I have no idea what happened. And backwards.
And backwards. I have no idea. Just turned it over.
Why? And either no one has caught it or they're like, nah, it's fine. I was trying to find, I was like, are my eyes playing tricks on me? But that word is wrong. Yeah. And it's such a nice looking sign too. They painted it this exact same color as the wall. Just have no clue why. Why that's the case. I got to say, if y'all haven't been watching the video podcast this week, I know I keep saying it, but y'all are missing out.
But right across the street is his home and all that. But anyways, we did all that and we quickly headed back to the hotel and made our way to towards Cambridge. Nice. Very cool.
Because in Cambridge we had an appointment to see this. Oh wow. King's College and Chapel. Wow.
Now I wanted to go to King's College and Chapel. This is what it looks like on the outside. Love that.
This is what it looks like on the inside. Look at that. Wow. That looks beautiful.
Unless if my computer works okay or my iPad is not cooperating. So you just have to look at pictures. Look at the ribbed ceiling. Next day we had appointment to see Trinity College. This is where, okay, this is it right here.
Let me see if I can pull it up right now. This is a bookstore. This is it. This is where Isaac Newton. This is where it happened? This is where it happened. This is where he went to school. In fact, I'll show you. This is where he saw the apple?
Well, they say that, but this is anecdotal. I don't know. But this tree right here, okay, you see that tree right there? Come out of there. See that there?
Okay. His, this was his window. That was, that was his room? Yeah. Like his dorm or his like study? Like his, his room.
So this is where he attended school? Yes. Okay.
But he also worked there too. Okay. Okay. Wow. So this lawn, you see that lawn under the tree right there? They said that this was one of the most messed up lawn because he threw all whatever he was working on, chemical that he would throw it out. So this was really messed up, all burned.
That's hilarious. Yeah. Dude, imagine the things that went on in that room. Like, like I see him like studying the prism with the light and everything just coming through. You know, one thing he did was he wanted to see what would happen to his eye if he put a needle through it. Really? He did it. He did it?
Yeah. Just in the name of science. He poked himself in the eye. Did he put his eye out?
No, it would have been sort of blind for a few hours and then it was okay. What a freak. Yeah. I mean, he was a, he was a scientist. For science. Like for science he would do anything. Wow. They also told us, and I knew about this, that he wouldn't talk to you if he didn't feel like you were up to his mental ability.
Oh really? He wouldn't talk to you. If you're beneath him.
If you're beneath him, he won't answer you. Well, well. Somehow I believe it. He was English, right? Sir Isaac? Yeah.
Sir Isaac Newton. Yeah, I believe it. Like this is, this is, this is him right there. There he is. He's not looking at you. He's looking above you already. Yeah, he's looking up above your head.
He's gazing off into the Celestia. Yeah, so. That's him, that's him right there.
I can't seem to show the videos anymore. But that's us right there. Nice. Sir Isaac. Wow.
There he is. Yeah. A lot more hair. I always thought he was like a powdered wig wearer.
I never. Well, the powdered wig was kind of. Yeah.
Just for special occasions, but they wouldn't wear that all the time. Yeah. I never expected to see him with short hair.
Hair looks like mine. Yeah. And this is inside that King's College.
I mean Trinity College. Yeah, I love that. And even when we're inside this room, we see that that's the original.
These are not like facsimiles or copies. Is that the portrait of Henry VIII? Yeah.
That's the one. Yeah. Wow. Because this is a college that was built by him.
I mean, he donated for it. Unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is, this is. I heard a story. I don't know if it's true, but I heard a story that he had that painting made because he had gotten so like big and.
So here's the thing about him, Henry VIII. Before, when he was young, he was very strong, very athletic. Like he would come out and without a shirt on and I think play ping pong or whatever he would play and people would stand there and watch him because they were like, you know, wow, look at that's the model of human physique. I mean, that's how people should be built strong, everything.
And then I think it's jousting, right? On the horse. Something happened where he got hurt. When he got hurt, it really messed him up. Messed him up even as his mind or whatever. I mean, it just really took a toll on him and he turned to eating and he went from being this, this, this fit young man to being Henry VIII. And they also attribute why he killed his wives and all this craziness because.
Like he had brain damage or something. Right. Now, was that true or is it like a defense of monarchy or whatever? Royalty? I don't know. But at least that's what they claim.
In fact, at the Tower of London, they have his armor from when he was young, middle-aged and later in life. And you can see the difference? Well, I didn't get to see it. No time. I wish I had like 30 more minutes I would have gone to see that. Yeah.
I didn't get to see it, but you can see the difference. That's incredible. Yeah. Well, so that's that. And of course, you went to the Wren Library.
Wren Library is pretty amazing. This is where you have a lot of things along with Winnie the Pooh's, the first one by the first draft. Yeah. Yeah. You're not supposed to take a picture. I didn't. I took a video.
There you go. You didn't break the rules. You didn't break the rules?
I didn't break the rules at all. So anyways, that's there. So that was pretty awesome. Of course, from there, we went to the Cambridge University Library because they had a card waiting for me.
I signed up for a card that I could use for like a month or something like that, although I didn't get a chance to use it much, no time. But while we were there, they said, oh, downstairs, I saw a sign that said Downstairs Agatha Christie or somebody's exhibit. Went down there.
Agatha Christie's original. There you go, man. I would give anything to go in there and just spend some time. I'm like, really? There she is right there. There she is, man. There she is.
So even her typewriter. Wow. Yeah. That's her typewriter. That's incredible.
And I'm like, wow, how did this happen? Yeah. Had a great time doing that. And then from there, we went on to Tyndall House. This is on the campus of Cambridge University where it's like an evangelical place. Nice.
So I was always wanted to go there. They're doing some renovations and hopefully it'll be very different. So I know Tyndale House is like a publisher, but what is what is it based on? Two different things. They're not related at all?
They're not related at all. What is this Tyndale House? This is Tyndale House.
It's like a, I don't know how to say it. It's like a place where scholars, evangelical scholars, can come study, do some postdoctoral work, those kind of things. So it's like a, like a home almost or just like a gathering place? Yes, it is. Many homes. And library there, a lot of good resources and places to meet, a little kind of like a conference center type feel to it.
But they're rebuilding all of that. But all for theological study? Yes. Got it. Yes.
Got it. This is where we went to eat. Nice. Because I told my friend I was like, can't stay here long. So we went out to eat there.
Great, great, great place. From there, we left and we made our way. We departed and head out towards Olney.
I wanted to go to Olney because that's where, not Isaac Newton. Who's the other guy? John Newton, pastor. Oh, the Amazing Grace guy? Amazing Grace guy.
Amazing Grace, how sweet the sound. Yep. I wanted to go there and I went to his church.
Very cool. Because on the backside of the church is his graveyard. There he is. Wow. There he is. There he is. So he wrote Amazing Grace. That's his church. That's where he pastored. Wow.
So I wanted to go there and that's his pulpit. Wow. Is that the original? Yeah, I think so. I think so. I may be wrong.
I need to do more research, but maybe. Oh, man. I mean, this right here is what came off his coffin and they took it off the coffin and they put it in a glass case inside the church. I love it. The rector of this church?
Is that like a pastor? Okay. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it's Anglican keep in mind.
So that's how. Fair enough. Yeah. Okay. Also in Olney is the home of William, not Calper, but Cooper.
Okay. Who was the hymn writer as well. Wrote a lot of hymns. So we went there and I was able to also do some filming there because he was a famous hymn writer. Together, they wrote the Olney hymns. Okay. And so I bought a hymn book.
The Olney hymn book is here with me. Nice. John Newton ended up writing most of it because William Cooper had, not Calper, Cooper had a lot of health issues. So he ended up writing most of it. So we did that. And then from there, we went back to, went to a place near London to stay. And the next day we left and went to Jane Austen's home.
There you go. Wow. This right here is Jane Austen's home. So she lived there? Yes. Wow.
Yeah. This is her home. Jane Austen's home. Pride and Prejudice. Pride and Prejudice. You think she wrote it in there?
Sense and Sensibility. I don't know, but I have information. I don't know for sure, but she wrote some books there. Okay. Okay.
She wrote some books there. Nice. We're actually sitting on her couch.
That's original? They let us sit on this. It was like, you can sit there. I can take a picture. I'm like, sure. And so the lady said, yeah, I'll, I'll take a picture if you sit there.
That's her couch. Yeah. That's incredible.
Yeah. So did that. Had a great time. From there, we left. Time was short. Oh, I didn't want to, I didn't want to spoil it. You didn't say it.
That's okay. And you have. And we came to Stonehenge. So before this, before Dr. Shaw went, I had no earthly clue this was in London or in England, I should say. I thought for sure it was somewhere in like Scotland, Ireland, somewhere in like that. But it's right there. It's about an hour and a half west of London. Wow.
That's where, that's where Stonehenge is. And so we went there with tons of people. I mean, I can imagine tons of people. I mean, I very skillfully avoid people in the shots, but I was going to say your pictures look pretty good. Yeah.
Pretty sparse. And I got some people to take our pictures and all that, but it was, it was great. We had a great time.
Filmed there as well. Just a quick short video. And then from there I had to make one last stop for John's sake. That's it, my friend. Look at that. Wow.
There she is. That's my book. So I gave Dr. Shaw the last Poirot novel where, and spoiler alert if you're not going to read these, but they were written in like the thirties. Poirot dies at the end. He's gone. So I wanted Dr. Shaw to have, I wanted the last Poirot book to have rested on Agatha Christie's grave. And there it is. Dr. Shaw FaceTimed me. I'm going to tell you that meant more to me than you can imagine.
I have fallen. Cause it was, it was Dr. Shaw's oldest daughter who got me into Agatha Christie. When I was going to Israel in 2019, she gave me, and then there were none by Agatha Christie. I read it and I got hooked and I started buying all her books.
I got all the authorized versions and I wanted the last book where Poirot, with Poirot's death to have rested on Agatha Christie's grave. There it is. That's we did that. Now, David asked a question. He said, why is Stonehenge important? Well, Stonehenge goes back to, I would say, I don't know for sure, but it probably goes back to maybe 1000, 2000 BC.
Okay. Maybe 1000 BC, not 80, 1000 BC. And I think maybe more, some people will fight with me over that and say, no, 2000 BC. Some will say 3000, but you know, 3000 cannot be because flood took place 2500 BC.
So maybe a thousand, maybe 2000 somewhere there. And I think we're not sure, but we know these stones came from, these massive stones came from a quarry near, not very far. And you find similar arrangements in other places near here as well. We just didn't have time to go visit all these hinges.
Okay. But I think it was probably either graveyards for the wealthy or, you know, a certain class of people. Maybe a little bit of solstice going on. I know people like to claim that the druids were all, I'm sorry, they were not, no. I know it sounds mysterious and great and gives you goosebumps, but I don't think the druids were part of that.
Druids came later and no. Is it pretty well established? Like there's, is it like, hey, we pretty much know what this are, but there's some wacky conspiracy theories or do, is it like way more spread out where it's like, we truly have no clue. There's a huge article that just came out in the National Geographic. I haven't read it. I want to read that and maybe we can answer that later on.
I did film there, so maybe we can show the film. But I think it's not that significant, not that significant, but definitely it's 2000 or 1000 BC. Way pre-Roman, because even they knew about that. But its purpose is not as significant as like just its age and its historicity, I guess. Yeah. Gotcha. It makes sense.
But it's a little disappointment when you go to the Stonehenge, you expect something to happen. It's just like, like aliens to shoot down. Yeah. Just like big rocks. That's it. Cool.
Big rocks stacked up in a circle. Yeah. But 2000 people here. Wow. Wow. Now let's go home. You see the rocks?
I see the rocks too. It's not somewhere you go back. Unless I take a tour with, because we were planning our tour of England and hopefully in a year or so, a year or two, and I will take people there.
I will take them because of the sentiment behind it. Like you get to see Stonehenge. Right. Yeah. I'll take people there.
But as to like, Oh my gosh, I want to go back to Stonehenge. This is a bunch of rocks. Yeah. Massive ones. Stacked up. Wow.
Yeah. So cool. Thank you so much, Dr. Shaw, for sharing your trip with us. And you know, through this, we've learned, we've grown, we've talked about the history of our faith. And that's our heart here at the Clearview Today show is that you would understand that we don't operate in a vacuum. We don't, you know, we didn't just drop into history. That's right. Christianity has existed for years. And you know, by God's grace, we're continuing to impact the course of history. That's right.
This is not a recap of a fun vacation. This is taking a deep look into where our faith is actually built on. We know our faith is built on Jesus Christ and Jesus Christ alone. But at the same time, like Ryan said, our faith doesn't exist in a vacuum. There are factors that contribute to how you think and how you believe, even as an American citizen, as an American Christian. So taking a deeper look at that is really important because it gives you context to your faith, which is, without it, I mean, what do you have?
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