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We're going to leave a couple of links right there in the description, so you can do just that. The verse of the day today is coming to you from John chapter 8, verse 12. Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, I am the light of the world.
He who follows me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life. And Jesus made a lot of statements like these, statements that begin with I am. He didn't do it one time. He didn't do it two times. He didn't do it three times.
He did seven times. Seven I am statements. By the way, there's a great series by Dr. Abaddon Shah on YouTube right now that goes through the I am statements.
We might link to that in the description if I feel so inclined to do so. But, you know, these comments echo the words of God to Moses. You know, in Exodus chapter 3, where Moses asks, you know, who do I say sent me? And God tells Moses, you know, you tell the people I am who I am.
I am has sent me to you. And so when Jesus says this, it implies the simplest expression of God's nature. He just is.
He must be. And Jesus is equating himself to God. And this wouldn't have been lost on Jesus's audience either. Sometimes we feel like the disciples or the Pharisees were just like, huh, what? I don't understand what you meant, Jesus.
No, they absolutely would have picked up on this I am language. That's why the Pharisees had such a problem. They're like, he's claiming to be God. Right. Right. And the disciples were not confused about who Jesus was. They knew that this meant that he was the one they'd been waiting for. The Son of God. That's exactly right. Every single verse that we bring you here on the show is brought to you by the Date the Word app.
We're going to leave some information right there in the show notes so you can get to it. Ryan, my friend, I've got a question for you. Here comes the money. Here comes the money.
That run was nice. Thank you, buddy. All right. I'm going to give you a million dollars. I want you to pick a celebrity. Just pick any celebrity that pops into your mind. Oh, let's say Kid Rock. All right. Kid Rock. I'm really. Oh, yeah. Kid Rock.
Million dollars. Any fun. This is kind of funny to me. Any photo that you take for the rest of your life. If you take if you're in it or just any photo that you take, Kid Rock is in the background. He's just there.
Like there's like photobombing in the background. He's sometimes other times he's just there. He's just like in the crowd. Like if you take a restaurant of your wife at that like dinner, he's at a table in the background. He's not he's not going to come up to you. He's not going to bother you. Sometimes he might photobomb, but he's just in the background. Yeah. He's not actually there in real life. Like he doesn't follow you around.
None of that stuff does. My initial inclination is yes. Does this include like professional portraits? If you're like family photos, he's in the background. Family photos, wedding photos. If you're in the photo or if it's a photo you take.
So like, OK, if if. So fast forward, let's say Hartley's getting Hartley's getting married. The photos of her and her husband. Fine.
Not not in their family pictures or photos of like the father of the bride. You're in the background. He's in the background. He may be it's a it's just a crash. He could be just could be or he could be like right behind y'all cheesing.
It just it's just a crapshoot. But if you're in the in the photo or if it's a photo you take. So if you take pictures on Hartley's wedding, like just from the audience or whatever. Yeah. Kid Rock's going to be in the background.
He might be at the altar. I don't know. Shoot. I'd probably take that. Yeah, I'd probably take it. I think I would take it. Yeah, I'd probably take it. I mean, look, Kid Rock.
It's not that if it was someone like Michael Moore or someone like shoot, who's someone I really wouldn't want my pictures. Beetlejuice. I was like, no, I would take it. Kid Rock.
He's pretty innocent. Every third picture you take pictures three times and he appears in the third one. Yeah, I was talking about. Yeah, sure. I was talking about different Beetlejuice, but it's it's I would take it. I would take it. Would you guys take it?
Not taking Kid Rock in the background. Really? For a million dollars. You're taking it. You take it. Yeah, I figured you would take it. OK, cool. Yeah, that's that's our answer. Let's ask Dr. Shah.
Why didn't let us know if you would take that million dollars. But is it is it Kid Rock for everybody? I'll say they can pick the celebrity.
OK, all right. You pick your celebrity. Kid Rock. Kid Rock. Yeah, let's do Kid Rock for everybody. Kid Rock for you. Why didn't you let us know a million dollars, but would you take that Kid Rock in the background of your photos?
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I was born ready, my friend. Let's hop right back in. All right. Welcome back to Clear View Today with Dr. Abbadon Shah, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ. You can visit us online at Clear View Today show.com.
Or if you have any questions or suggestions for new topics, send us a text to 252-582-5028. Right you are, Ryan. And we are here once again in the Clear View Today studio with Dr. Abbadon Shah, who's a PhD. Oh, I was gonna, you messed me up. I messed you up.
Yeah, because you were doing a good job and I was proud of you. But I was gonna say we're here in the Clear View Today studio with drum roll, please. That's so softly.
Yeah, that's Dr. Abbadon Shah. The tiniest of drums. It's quiet because we're being quiet. We're being real quiet in the Clear View Today studio today.
It's probably going to sound normal. You were doing good and I was proud of you. So I was like, right you are, Ryan. I had no reason to, but it threw me off. Right you are.
I wish you hadn't done that. Dr. Shah, million dollars. We're going to give you a million dollars today on the Clear View Today show. Bob Barker, big, no, not Bob Barker, Ed McMahon style check and everything.
But every single photo you take, Kid Rock is in the background. No. He's just there. He didn't even think about it. No. Not for a million dollars. Well. It's such a random thing.
Like think about all the photos you took in England. Like Kid Rock. He would always be there. He's not like in your photo. He's just in the background somewhere.
Is he singing? No, sometimes he's just like looking at the wall. He's just like kind of there.
Okay, then I'm okay. If he's singing, then no. He's just like milling about in the crowd for some reason. It's just when you get, when you take the photo, he's just in the background. But he's not like, he's not there with you. Yeah, okay. I'm fine with that.
I'll take the million. He could be like a Where's Waldo sort of thing where he's just there. Okay, I'm fine with that as long as he's not singing. I'm not ready for his music. I don't blame you. I don't blame you one bit.
As we should not be. Can you imagine going to England and Kid Rock is there just like, would you take that same tour with him there? No, no. The places we went to were like beautiful cathedrals with beautiful stained glass windows, historical places, places of reverence, reverence and history and meaning.
And then Kid Rock. It just does not fit. No, sir, see yourself in that place. I'm just, I have to be in the background next picture. Sir, this is Westminster Abbey.
You need to put your shirt on and leave. We're talking today, we're continuing our discussion about your recent trip to England, Dr. Shaw, you and Nicole. We've talked about so many things.
I feel like just, it's difficult to kind of keep pace with everywhere that you've been. The British Museum and Stratford-upon-Avon, seeing all of Shakespeare's life and his home and Anne Hathaway's home. I mean, just life-changing, just transformative. Yes, yes. And this was a trip we, I mean, I've been dreaming on this trip for a long time because from England, we get a lot of our history. We get literature. The greatest gift that the British or the English have given to the world is literature. That's what I would say. That's true. Literature. Yes, bits and pieces of Christianity, but literature would be the biggest one. So going there was a big deal for me because I could now go to the places that I've been reading about for 40 plus years.
I would say 50 years almost. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm there. So it was exciting for me. At the same time, you know, the reason we're walking through this is not just to go over my itinerary in England, but also to learn from, from this trip. Why should I say it? America is better, but I mean, why, you know, great things, love the history, but at the same time, you know, I prefer here. True, true.
Sometimes it takes that. Sometimes it takes going somewhere else to make you realize those things that you either take for granted or you just don't realize that other nations don't have, you know, the freedoms that they don't have or the culture that they don't have that you enjoy at home. Like for me, we say this on the show all the time, but like I was born here. I was born in America. I was born in the same town that I'm in right now. And so for me, it's like, this is just what normal life is like.
But you know, for you growing up and for a lot of people growing up, that's not what it was like. And so what I take as normal is actually an enormous privilege. Right. Well, so now we come to day three. Day three, well day two, we arrived in Oxford, not Oxford, North Carolina and gravel County, but this is Oxford.
A bunch of people listening to the radio just parked up. Yeah, in England. And this is where Oxford University is. And that was a big deal for me because all my life I heard Oxford and Cambridge, Oxford and Cambridge, and then to be there. But we were living, we were living, we were staying outside of Oxford, like central Oxford I would say. That's where the universities are. That's where the colleges are. That's where the university is. So we were a little bit on the outskirts, like maybe a 10 minute or five minute bus ride.
That's it. Five minute bus ride and you're inside Oxford central area. And we stayed in at a bed and breakfast and loved it. But that was like a couple hundred year old, like 300 year old building and a house that was turned into a bed and breakfast. So that was, that in itself was very special. Comfortable? Yes, I would say so. First night wasn't. First night we got put into a room that was probably three fourths of this room. Really small. Yeah. This is already kind of, I mean, it's a pretty big room, but with all the equipment. That's pretty, that's pretty tiny.
I wouldn't want to like sleep in this room. No, we had six suitcases. Wow. Somebody goofed up there.
Yeah. Four check-ins, like two for Nicole, two for me, four check-ins and then two checked suitcases as well as our backpacks. Yeah, no, that's too, that's too small. And we tried to put it in there and we put it inside the closet. It was tough, but the guy was real nice. He said, look, tomorrow morning, so-and-so guest is checking out. You're going to get that room.
Please just hang in there. There you go. And I was like, okay, sounds good.
Customer service. Yeah. He was very nice. And I didn't think the British were really known for that. No, this guy, he was British. He was not English. And I think he was Italian if I'm not wrong.
Like Italian, British guy. So anyways, we, next morning, got up, had breakfast there. Nice breakfast, actually. You can see the picture right there for those who are watching online. Breakfast is there.
And then he gave us information. And then from there we went off to Yarnton Manor. Yarnton Manor is a little bit further out from where we were living. Living? Why am I saying living? From staying. Staying. Staying. Not living. Because I'm thinking bed and breakfast.
I think about bed means living bed. But so, so we had to, we were driving now. So I drove to Yarnton Manor and began to drive in. And that's where my professor was. So we went to meet up with them and spend some time together.
And I felt like I was pulling up, if you, if you have watched Pride and Prejudice, this was Pemberley. Really? Wow. Wow. I mean, right there, that is, that's the picture right there.
That's beautiful. Looks like a, what's that, what's that show Nicole loves? Well, she likes Pride and Prejudice. You think it went down to Abbey? Down to Abbey, yeah.
And she actually went to High Clear Castle. Yeah. So this is Yarnton Manor, which is, like I said, outside of Oxford and is bought by an American who is a Christian and he's converting this into a conference center, a venue for, you know, meetings and papers and academia, as well as there's going to be a library next to it. And he's, he's already building the library up. Also, he's taking an old historic building because this right here was, was somehow connected to the Windsor people. Okay.
So he's taking an existing building and converting that into this venue, but maintaining his historic look. Wow. And it's for, it's for like, like, Christian academics. Christian academics. Yes. Yes.
Christian academics. So you can see inside, this is what it looks like inside. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Bro, you'll probably be there a lot then. Yeah. Oh yeah. It's pretty awesome. Yeah.
I mean, just, just Nicole was like, I'm in love with this place. I can imagine. I mean, it looks like a dream.
It looks like a fairytale. Yeah. So, I mean, look at the windows. Yeah. Wow. Isn't it nice? Incredible. And so there's yours truly.
Yep. Sitting here with Nicole. Dude, I love it. I want to take the camera over there and start filming some stuff. Well, that'd be great.
That's beautiful. I could get some permits over there. Yeah, let's do it. I mean, if you, I mean, if the guy's doing that for Christian academics, I mean, no chance. No problem.
We could work some things out. That's me over there pretending to read. So anyways, it was great to see somebody turning this venue into a Christian, this, this old historic home or kind of really a manor into a Christian venue.
Would you say that's, would you say that's the, not the norm in Europe to be wanting to preserve, not even preserve, but wanting to set something aside for the purpose of bolstering Christianity? It's rare. Plus this guy is not even. Oh, that's true. He's American.
He's, he's American. That's right. I forgot about that.
He has something very similar in Texas now here. So he's, he's really kind of, you know, helping promote academia among evangelicals. Now did you go to this place, to Yartin Manor with Dr. Robinson?
No. Well, we went, but separately. So he came with his wife a day later. We came Monday morning, he came Tuesday morning. And then we met up on Wednesday morning. At the conference?
No, the day before the conference. And we decided to go looking around. The place we wanted to see, by the way, check out this church. This church was right next to Yartin Manor. Wow.
Okay. So this is the, this is the Yartin Manor and this is the church. This is Yartin Manor, right? This is the church right next to it.
This church is like 400 some years old. So I feel bad for our listeners because they cannot see. Imagine in your mind's eye. That's why we, that's why we tell y'all man, this is a video podcast. Y'all got to watch that too. Yes. Yes. Check out, this is inside that church. It looks like Statler and Waldorf up top. I like that. Check this, check this out. Look at this. Look at this.
I didn't even see that. I was looking at the top. I was looking at the decorations up top in the plaque. There's like people in the fireplace. Is that a fireplace?
No, no, no. It's a, it's a grave. Oh, I thought, oh, I thought they were like burning the people in the fireplace.
I thought it was like a fireplace. Look at the date on that. 1608. Wow. Wow. So I was amazed. This right here is you can see Dr. Robinson and Nicole.
What's up with this glass? Okay. I got to ask you this. I don't know if we've ever talked about this on the show. Traveling with Dr. Robinson. That's an adventure. That could be an episode.
I feel like that needs to be a series. Traveling with Dr. Robinson. Was he on point this one or is it like, no, this was also like traveling with Dr. Robinson. And this was close enough, but his wife was there. Oh, so she was keeping him in line. Okay. He was just keeping him in line.
Got you. So how much McDonald's did you eat? We, no, we did not eat any McDonald's. No, Dr. Robinson, man, I got to give one, I got to give you some respect. Not this time.
His wife was there, so probably no McDonald's. Shout out to, can I call him Doc Robinson? You can. I'm not going to, out of respect, but proud of you though. I thought you were going to say here, see you, Mrs. Robinson. So what he really wanted me to do was go see the grave site of John Bergen. John Bergen was a Dean over at Oxford University and he was a defender of the Byzantine text.
Now, as you know, I like the Byzantine text. I lean in that direction. And so he said, you want to see John Bergen's grave? I was like, absolutely.
Where do you find it? So he's like, let's drive into Oxford. And I'm like, but I've been told don't drive into Oxford because there's no place to park. Oh no, we can find, there's parking places near the graveyard. I'm like, okay.
But I've heard that don't park. He said, no, no, no, we can find it. At that point, did you believe him or were you like, I'm just going to go along with this? No, I'm going to go along with this.
I think it's going to be not good. Here's the thing, it turned out to be okay this time. So we went to what's known as Holywell Cemetery. This is it right here. This is a sign right there, Holywell Cemetery. And this is an old cemetery as you can see with graves. In the doomsday book of 1086, the land was listed as meadow. Wow. Goodness, 1086.
Wow, bro. This land was there. Keep in mind, Oxford University was founded very early. It's a thousand year old university. So this part was there. It was just a meadow and then it became a graveyard.
Check this out. Not sure what this X-Man grave is. Yeah, that's where Wolverine's going to get crucified. And then I said, oh, okay, let's go find John Bergen. Sure enough, we found him and guess what he did? He sat on top of his grave. Come on, man.
Yeah. He said, he said, last time we were here, I rode the grave like a hobby horse. What?
So he sat like straddle on top of it. I said, really? Dr. Robinson. Look at David's face.
Cut to David. He's appalled. So this guy, this guy was a huge, John Bergen, huge, huge proponent of the Byzantine text. For a text critic like this guy is extremely important. Yeah, he fought against the revised version.
He fought against Westcott and Hord and all that stuff. Now his methods, I don't agree with because he was sort of quite, he had a way of saying things that were very caustic at times. Caustic? What does that mean? Like really sharp and dagger. Like got a sharp tongue. Sharp tongue, sharp pen.
Wow. But his points were very accurate and his research was quite amazing. And Dr. Robinson straddled his grave.
He showed, he didn't show respect. What he was saying was, I'm sitting on top of John Bergen's grave. In a sense, I am gaining on his, all his knowledge by osmosis. Oh, I see.
I thought it was like symbolic. I'm building my work on his, but he's like, no, I'm just going to be silly at this dude's grave. I guess if you're Maurice Robinson, you kind of get to do that. But you didn't feel the need to sit on his grave. I didn't sit on the grave, but I stood in front of the grave and I spoke in front of the grave and I did some filming and recording about John Bergen.
That's really awesome. And the thing is what many people don't realize is we think we have technology, we have computers, we have so much today. And so we know more than these people. No, these people knew like John Bergen knew his discipline. For one, he was a single guy, you know, he was single man and he was very hardworking. So he poured his life into those manuscripts. I mean, I have pretty much all of his books.
Great point. And he was tremendous scholar, tremendous. You can disagree with him.
People can disagree with him all they want to, but to say that he was not a scholar, I'm sorry. You don't know what you're talking about. That's a great point. And I don't know how common that is today where someone devotes their entire life only to their discipline. Cause you know what I mean? We've got so much entertainment, but we've got so many options available for us for how to spend our time.
We've got phones, we've got movies, we've got TV, we've got friends, we've got entertainment all out the wazoo. And I don't know how common it is for people, let alone scholars, but just people in general to just devote their life to this one thing and become so good at it. Yeah. John Bergen was like that. That's incredible.
Yeah. Just a brilliant guy. So it was great that I got to see that grave. But then in the list of famous people in the graveyard, there were two of the names that caught my attention.
And one I knew, because Robinson had told me it's there, was this one right here. Charles Williams. Charles Williams was one of the Inklings. Oh, with Tolkien and C.S.
Lewis. That's right. Okay.
I didn't know that. Poet. So I said, oh, he's here? He said yes. I said, I'm going to find it. Unfortunately, Dr. Robinson took me to the other side of the graveyard. He said, I know it's here. And there is a Charles Williams there. Wrong one. So I found the right one. So that's the right one. Because the pamphlet that you find hanging outside by the gate of that cemetery, it has the marking of Charles Williams. He's like, no, that's not the one.
It's back here. And sure enough, there was a Charles Williams. But not the same one. I said, Dr. Robinson, I think from this map, this is the real one.
And he came and was like, oh, yes, that's the poet. And that's his, yep, that's the one. I don't know who I went to last time.
Last time was like 20 years ago. So is this the right one in the picture here? The one I'm with is the right one. Yeah. So as I'm here, I'm like, wait, let's look at who else is in this graveyard. So sure enough, we looked and I found Paul Moss. Paul Moss was a text critic. I don't agree with this philosophy of text criticism. It's like based on schematics. Schematics is like if we can line up these manuscripts, we can find the sentinel.
It's not a very good science. But he was a very good text critic. And he was Jewish.
Didn't know that. Wow. Yeah.
And guess what? Right there he is. That's him. There's Paul Moss.
So I took a picture with him and also filmed a quick video. Wow. So what makes him a good text critic if you, I know we don't have a ton of time, but what makes him a good text critic even if their philosophy or methodology is wrong? They need to know their stuff. They need to know about manuscripts. They need to know about the history of the text.
Gotcha. They need to understand the difficulties behind retrieving the original text. They need to be familiar with the various methodologies. They need to be familiar with the manuscripts. Not every manuscript. That's impossible. Five thousand plus Greek manuscripts and ten thousand some Latin.
I mean it's impossible. But at least be familiar with those things. They need to be familiar with the variant readings that are important.
Not just the pericope adultere or the ending of Mark or the comma johenium. You know those are easy ones. We know those are the big ones. But they need to know others.
True. Right? Other variant readings. Like the Lord's Prayer or other variant readings like Mark 1-1 or Ephesians 5-30. You know the flesh and bones passage that I've written on. They need to be aware of these kind of things. And even I am still learning and growing. But when a person doesn't know those things then they cannot truly call themselves a text critic. Even if they get the, I guess that's true because you can tell me the correct methodology and I can go out there and repeat it. Period.
But that doesn't make me a text critic just because I'm correct. Right. I got you. Exactly.
Makes sense. So then we went out to eat. Eat at Subway. Not at McDonald's.
Not at McDonald's. Proud of you Dr. Robinson. I'm going to give you another applause. One more applause. We got the whole McDonald's for you. This is the gas station we went to.
Nice. Bro, great curry in a hurry. Good curry. I didn't get the curry there. But I did get Subway.
It probably wouldn't taste good. Yeah. I went back to Dr. Robinson's home. Ate there and relaxed. And then Nicole and I went back. We're like okay let's go back. Let's park at the same place we parked. We found a parking spot. And you could put in money in the meter over here like a computerized thing. Put the tag number in.
You're good to go. And then we came back. The second time we went to the same place I was like great I found a parking place where I can do this.
My number is already in the thing and you cannot do that. So I got a ticket. For trying to park at the same place you already parked at?
Yeah. And getting a permit and paying but didn't realize you can only get it for an hour now. First time was two hours. Second time was only an hour.
Oh I see I see. So you stayed more than an hour the second time? Second time yeah. First time actually we stayed less than an hour. But I paid for two hours. Second time I stayed for two hours but we paid for only one hour.
Can you just like flip flop them? Like we paid for that here. I wanted to. Glad that you live in America where you can pretty much buy anything you want.
You can buy any favors you want to. England is like oh we don't want your money. We want you to follow our rules.
That's right this is tradition for thousands of years. And you won't follow it or else. So anyways so then we but I parked there and I tried to get it more than an hour. Couldn't do it.
That was a big contention with Nicole and I was like I don't know. Do it. She's like I can't.
It's not moving. Why is he giving me an hour? We got two hours last time. Why don't you get four? I don't know.
I can't. Long story short we're like you know what they're gonna just give us a ticket. I said I hope they don't tow us away. I don't think they will. They didn't tow us away but sure enough they'll take it. They were just sitting there waiting on it too.
They'd be just watching the clock just waiting. When we come back I want to go further. Talk about Oxford.
Bro let's do it. Oxford University. So exciting. Hopefully no tickets in Oxford. No tickets. No tickets.
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