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That's right. You've got to give yourself to it. And it means it's not going to just happen.
I used to have this weird idea that prayer is something that just comes natural to good Christians. It's just something that I'll wake up and want to do. Good will, good services towards other people, it's just something that comes natural. So if I don't have it, it's just because, I don't know, maybe I'm a bad person or something. It's something you've got to give yourself towards. It's a discipline. And I used to wait so many times for motivation to strike me, when really I should have been fostering Christian discipline. Yeah, it's a conscious effort. I mean, there's a process of growing, there's a process of maturing, but you've got to put it in the work. You've got to make that right choice. And eventually you will start to desire it more, but we're always going to be battling against the sin nature while we're here on earth.
So you've got to make that conscious choice to give yourself to prayer and to ministry. Why does it stink in this studio right now? It is rather garlicky. What is that? Are you eating?
Oh, there's a sandwich currently in his mouth. Why are they stinks? That is strong.
That's strong. A fragrance. We were going to do the gripe vine on something else, but now I feel like I'm going to do the gripe vine on a stinky studio. It's the great garlic.
What is that? Hold on, wait. So David said, you said you wanted to do today's gripe vine. I mean, Ryan, I'm going to introduce this. Welcome to the, hang on, sorry, one more time.
Three, two, one. Welcome to the gripe vine. It's kind of hard to focus.
It's kind of hard to focus in here. Yeah, I'm eating gripes, but I'm tasting garlic. You said you wanted to gripe about the great garlic. Yeah. Go ahead. Dumb name.
What do you mean? The sandwich great garlic. Dumb name. Bad job, Subway. You wanted Subway. You said, no, you said you wanted Subway for lunch. We had Subway. What are you eating? Are you eating the great garlic? Mm-hmm.
Hold it up to the camera. Hold on, hold on, hold on. So you're griping about the name of the sandwich that you are currently eating? How bad is the gripe? Are you, does it really annoy you? Because it looks like you like it. The name is, I mean, it's dumb.
What do you mean? I call a sandwich the great garlic. Like I'm going to eat it. What's on it? Garlic. It's just bread and garlic cloves.
That's it. It's chicken, tomato, lettuce, onions, garlic, cheese, extra cheese. Hold on, were those two things or is garlic cheese an actual thing? No, it's garlic and cheese. Comma cheese? Yeah, extra cheese and then like a garlic aioli sauce. Garlic aioli with garlic cheese, garlic chicken, garlic bread.
The gripe vine for those listening is the segment that we do on the show where we gripe about something that we find displeasureable or gets on our nerves. It seems like you like the sandwich. You're inhaling it. You're not chewing. You're sliding it. You're just like massaging it down your throat. The problem isn't the sandwich. It's the name. So this is just a side thing.
This is maybe nitpicky. You're not supposed to eat on the radio. We have sponsors, bud. Yeah, you're like smacking in the microphone. I can hear you over here, so I can't imagine what headphones you're listening to right now. You see my cup right here? Yeah. You know what's inside of my Clearview Today cup? What? Probably garlic.
Clearview PC. Is it garlic butter sauce? No, it's Le Bleu water. It's garlic-infused water.
So Le Bleu water, right? MightyMuscadine.com. Think about the Truth Network. They're listening to us, or listening to you, smack, chew, swallow all in the mic about a sandwich that you supposedly don't like but you can't stop eating. David, you don't look good, bud. We've got to cut out of this segment.
I'm getting wildly uncomfortable. So hold on. The gripe is that the sandwich tastes good but has a stupid name. No, I think the gripe is just the name. Tastes good is irrelevant.
I'm going to read to you some of the names. It's a Subway sandwich, right? Or is it Jersey Mike's? Subway. Subway does have cutesy names for their sandwiches. The Boss Footlong.
Good name or stupid name? Fine. Fine? The Boss Footlong? What about The Monster Footlong? Good.
I'd eat the Monster. The Bella Matza. What?
The Bella Matza. Stupid. The Outlaw. Good. I'd eat that.
The Champ. I'd eat that. The Great Garlic Footlong. So dumb. I wouldn't eat that. You would not eat it? No. But you're currently eating it. Well, I did it for the show.
The Outlaw is fine. Yeah, I would eat that. I think Jersey Mike's has some really stupid sandwich names, too. Yeah, it doesn't have a stickball or something like that.
I love the stickball special. That's my go-to sandwich every time. What is it with sub shops and cutesy names?
I don't know. Yeah, can I just get some salami on white bread, please? It's like, no, no, no. You want a- I guess it keeps it interesting. You want a- You want the Dolly Parton. Hold on one second.
I'm going to look at these cold subs. You want the Shmoopy on rye. Can we open the door? It stinks to high heaven. My eyes are starting to water. Are you ashamed, David?
Of? The smell that- The Great Garlic. The smell that everybody's having to smell right now. At this point, I think you are the Great Garlic. It's no longer the sandwich. Yeah, I think the Great Garlic is what it makes you, not the actual sandwich itself.
Wow. We got to cut to break. We got to cut. My eyes are watering. If you try the Great Garlic, write in and let us know. It's almost done.
I have actually had the Great Garlic. Do you want to just finish? Do you just want to finish the sandwich before the break? Oh. Golly. I can't believe it. At least thank you for moving the mic away.
Unhinges his jaw. So your gripe is that the Great Garlic is a stupid name. Great sandwich, dumb name.
It would even make more sense if it was like, why do sub shops give their sandwiches dumb names? But yours is like, no, the Outlaw is great. The Champ is great. The Great Garlic is stupid.
Right. I got to cut to break. We got to go. I'm angry.
We got to cut to break. If you've tried the Great Garlic and you like it, send us a picture of you eating it. Send me a subway gift card or a Jersey Mike's gift card. I'll give you a stickball special.
You can visit us online at ClearViewTodayShow.com. Stay tuned. We'll be back after this. Can I hear?
That was a dumb intro. Hello Clearview family. I'm Nicole.
And I'm David. And we want to talk to you today about the Clearview app. You know, there are so many churches out there that put their sermons on YouTube and their announcements on Facebook and their prayer lists on Periscope.
I didn't even know Periscope was still functional. Oh, it's not. And that's why nobody can find their church's prayer list and nobody's prayers be getting answered. But here at Clearview, we believe in making our content as accessible as possible. That's right. Clearview produces so much content every single week, including Dr. Shaw's sermons, original music, a full online store, weekly prayer gatherings, and so much more.
Not to mention the number one best-selling Christian talk show of all time. I don't know if that's accurate. Well, maybe not yet, but that's why we want people to download the app. If you're listening from the Triangle area, we encourage you to check out Clearview Church in person. But if not, you can still follow all of our content on the Clearview app.
It's 100% free on the Apple Store and Google Play Store. And best of all, all of our content is right there in one convenient spot. Make sure you download the Clearview app today, and let's get back to the show. Welcome back to Clearview Today with Dr. Abbadon Shaw, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ. You can visit us online at ClearviewTodayShow.com.
If you have any questions or suggestions for new topics, send us a text at 252-582-5028. That's right. We're here once again in the Clearview Today studio with Dr. Abbadon Shaw, who's a PhD in New Testament textual criticism, professor at Carolina University, author, full-time pastor, and the host of today's show. Dr. Shaw, would you ever eat a sandwich, or would you ever not eat a sandwich based on its name? Let's say that. Could a sandwich have a name so unappealing you wouldn't eat it?
That can happen. Yeah. Like if it were like the... Wort sandwich.
Like the bathroom floor special. You're like, I'm not eating. Yikes.
Yikes. So we've been talking about a sandwich whose name is so bizarre, I can't tell if it's good or bad. It falls somewhere in between. Is it a real sandwich? It's a real sandwich, and it's from Subway, which we like.
I think Subway is starting to make its resurgence here at Clearview Church. It's called the Great Garlic. The Great Garlic? The Great Garlic. Would you eat that sandwich? The health benefits of garlic are tremendous. For real?
Oh, yeah. Garlic is healthy. Garlic is very healthy for you. What about for your breath? It's terrible. Bad breath. Great everything else.
Bad for the breath. I used to work with this lady. She was Vietnamese, and she would eat tons of garlic.
Really? Oh, yes. And this was back in Georgia. I used to work at a Piedmont Automotive. I was a floor boy, supplying these ladies on the assembly line with all the parts they need. Every time I came by her, it was like, whoo.
And keep in mind, this is Northeast Georgia where... Oh, it's hot. Well, it's not just that. People are quick to call you names and whatever. So I was like, oh my goodness, lady, don't you understand?
You cannot eat this. You're putting a target on yourself. For office ridicule.
For ridicule. And so one day I was like, so you like garlic? I love garlic. And then she went on and told me all the things that garlic did. And I was like, I want to join you. I just don't want to be treated the way you get treated because... Did people talk about her?
Yeah, it's not because she was waiting to meet. It was the fact that it was so strong. Yeah, the garlic was so strong. That's why I try not to eat it a whole lot. I love garlic. So you would eat the great garlic sandwich.
I would. But you brush your teeth after. It doesn't go without eating. Garlic does not go away. We get pizza a lot of times, and we'll get the garlic butter from Papa John's.
And I want it so bad, but I know the second I do it, it's stuck with me for days and days. I love garlic. I love garlic.
I do too. I tend to over-season with garlic. I've actually had the... Have you ever had the pickled garlic cloves? No. Straight garlic, just like brined in pickle juice? Really? So good.
I would try that. But I mean, your breath will be kicking. That's true. But for what it's worth, I have had the great garlic. It's a good sandwich.
Nicholas does it where he'll take... Like when we do eat pizza, he'll take that garlic butter sauce, and I mean drench that bread and just... And I never smell it on him. But I know the instant I do it, I'll take a little nibble, and I'll be like, hey, they're like, oh, it's here. They'll be just like... Bruh. It's got to be more than just a bruh. It's like, oh, ew. I used to have a boo on here. Yeah, a boo. I would be like... Like, I can't do it.
I can't find the sound effect. That kind of fell flat there. Look, you can't win them all.
That's right. I wonder if that lady went on to become a garlic farmer later in life. She's just like, I love it so much.
I'm just going to devote my entire life to it. I would love to think she's still in this world. At the time, she was touching 55, and that was in 1990... Gosh. Four? Wow. 1995.
So, do the math. Yeah, she'd be in her 70s, I guess. Oh, yeah. Of course, she's still around.
Wow. I mean, maybe the garlic. Yeah, maybe let's keep it on the health side.
Garlic keeps her going. She's just in her prime. Right. Exactly.
She's 55 now. Exactly. Exactly.
Maybe a career shift could be in her future. Right. Right. Sometimes that happens.
Sometimes people are trying to figure out where I'm going to land as far as my career goes. That's a question for a lot of people, not just those who enjoy garlic. That's right. But just everyone across the board. That's right. That's what we're going to talk about today. We've been talking over the course of these past few episodes about how to determine God's will for your life. That's a question for so many people.
That's true. How do I know what's your career? How do I know what is the career path that God wants for me?
Wouldn't it be great if you knew God would just tell you from day one, or you come into this world with a tag that says, you'll be a business owner. You'll be a baseball player. You'll be a school teacher. You'll be a software engineer. You'll be a police officer, an EMT, a pastor, missionary, doctor, nurse, lawyer, politician, writer, musician. I'm trying to cover all the All the trades. Possible careers. Possible.
So no one feels left out. Singer, mechanic, welder, electrician, insurance salesman. Did I miss anything? Tour guide. Yeah. Yeah. Baker?
Baker. Yeah. Just whatever.
The list could be endless. Yeah. Imagine you were born with it, and then it's like, okay, that's what I'm going to be. I may as well go ahead and start early. Here's the trajectory for my life.
Yeah. I'll just go ahead and start learning how to make cupcakes when I'm two. Unfortunately it doesn't work like that, and we must go through the first 20 years of our life just trying to figure things out. Even then, we're not quite sure that the decision we made as a career choice was the right decision. That's true. You think about it. If Moses is to be believed, and we've got 70, maybe 80 years, we've got to spend a quarter of it figuring out what to do with the other three corners.
That's crazy. And people get into a line, and they hate it. They hate their job. They can't wait to retire. I truly believe that if you really love your job, why would you want to retire? I get you want to retire because you're done, you're tired, you want to do other things in life, but why would you be so eager to just be done with it? I cannot see myself being done with my calling, which is to be a pastor first and foremost. Of course, don't get spiritual on me, folks. Being a husband is the first calling.
That's not your first calling. All right. Sit down, people. We get it. All right. Let's just get that all laid out. Husband, father. Are you the one sitting behind the microphone on a radio show?
Probably not. But what I mean is my calling to be the pastor of the church. I love it.
I can't see life beyond that. Be an academic, teaching people deep theological truths, exposing them to criticisms or disciplines regarding the study of the Bible. I love doing that. I love doing the radio show like we do. I love writing.
There's a book coming out soon. All these things are part of who I am. I never want to stop doing that. I know there will come a day when I will be like, I think I can't do anything, but I will keep doing it. Yeah. It's a red flag when retirement is your light at the end of the tunnel.
That's what you're looking forward to. I think so many people find themselves in a career and they're just like, I'm literally just doing this to pay my bills. I'm just doing this to make ends meet, to take care of my family, because that's where my real love is. That's not wrong.
You shouldn't not love your family, but if you understand God's will for your life, you can land in a career that you love doing. It's gotten to a point in our culture where that's not even our bitter pill anymore. That's just the norm. Why in the world would I spend my time doing something that I don't want to do?
Of course I'm just doing this for the money. It used to be the fact that people ... That's like your midlife crisis. Oh, wow. I don't like this.
This is where I'm at. Now they're just like, sure. I like this idea of just be free floating, do what I want to when I want to. If I don't like it, I just move on. To some degree, I admire that, but at the same time, it has some far reaching repercussions. That's a very Gen Z trait too.
We've talked about this on the show before. Gen Z views work as just a source of income to fuel their true passion, their true hobbies, which aren't necessarily their career. The job just makes it possible for me to do what I love. I don't love what I do. How do you figure out what is your career? Last show, we talked about those three different ways of looking at God's will for our life.
We talked about the specific will view where it's almost turn by turn. God says, go here. This is the will. Go here. This is who I want you to marry. This is the career I want you to have.
This is where I want you to buy a house. The specific will view is found in scripture. I love it. I think it has a lot of merit. There are people who will right now say, that's not true.
I disagree with them. I think God does have a specific will for your life. Then there's a wisdom view, which is not as much about turn by turn, but it's about options. Pick the best option based on your understanding of the word of God with the support and help of the Holy Spirit.
Pick the best option. That's the wisdom view. Then there's a relationship view, which is more about cultivating a relationship with Christ. In the process, you make decisions based on how he's nudging you and guiding you. It's more about growing in him rather than just having a perfect will or making the best choice. It's about following his heart. It almost seems like, of course, relationship view.
How can you argue with that? How can you say, yeah, walking with Jesus is not the most important thing? Finding the best thing for your life that God has is the thing.
I get it. What if the relationship view is the overarching view, but it utilizes the specific will and the wisdom view? That's a great point. What if that's part of the process, the machinery by which God reveals his will for us? It's a good way of thinking because we get so tied into, here's three and you can only have one.
We get tied into, well, I've got to pick, but now there's a bunch of anxiety about which one do I pick. Like you said yesterday, they're all found in scripture, every single one. What if those three are supposed to work together and through the Holy Spirit in us, we are guided to, here you need to wait because God has a specific person for your life.
Here you need to wait because there is a job I'm preparing for you that has been designed with you in mind, with your gifts and your talents and is coming, just wait. Or the Holy Spirit saying, no, I want you to dig in the word. I want you to get up early tomorrow morning and spend some time praying and saying, God, should I go ahead and invest in buying a car or not?
And no, I'm not going to tell you which car or which dealership or which exact thing, location. I'm going to let you figure this out. That's the wisdom view. So I think God works more like that because all three of those views are found in scripture. That's true. That's true. So how can I then say, oh, it's only this one.
Right. That's why I appreciate you, your teaching, Dr. Shaw, and this show, because it helps us realize that we don't have to be boxed into something. We don't have to be back into the corner and forced into a choice when really there's not choice to be made. It's just, you know, these are all found in scripture. Which one applies at the moment?
We don't have to pick one and exclude the others. It's just which one best fits the situation. Especially when it comes to something as long lasting as your career.
Yeah. I mean, like when it comes to your work, what you, I mean, it's what you do with your life like it or not. It is how you'll be remembered. It's the legacy that you're building. Especially for us as men. That's, that's a big part of identity. True.
We are as is what we do is a large part of who we are. To give you an illustration of my own life, when it came to picking this career and the career being in full-time ministry, paid ministry, I had the calling years ago. So years go by, I kind of focus more on broadcast journalism because that's the only secular degree that's there. I want to get out in two years.
All right. I'm like looking to get out. So 92, 93, one year, 93, 94, two years. So at that point I was thinking, I'm going to go to, oh my goodness, this, this University in California.
What is it? CSU? No, no, no. USC? No, it's, it's well known as, oh my goodness. This is, I'm drawing a blank right now. Not Berkeley. University of Los Angeles, California, University of Southern California, University of Berkeley, Stanford? No, something there.
It'll come to me in a second. Maybe one of those, I was, I had more of the acronym memorized. Anyways, so I'm looking at that and they had an aeronautics program.
So whatever school has the aeronautics there, that's where I was going to go. And then I meet Nicole. And so we began to date. I got around her dad. I'm spending time with her dad.
Sitting in church and listening to a message by him and it's like really touching and I realize, wow, maybe I think I am. No, no, that cannot be. I'm not supposed to. I'm supposed to go very quickly, you know, finish this degree. Maybe I need to go and finish this four year and then just move to California. And then God kept speaking to my heart. And before I knew it, that maybe UCLA, I don't know. I don't know.
Maybe it is UCLA. Thank you, David. And then I could not take it anymore. We got married. And as I'm, you know, right after we got married one night, I just sat up in bed and I said, Nicole, I think God's calling me in the ministry. No, but I think, I think he's telling me that I need to be like your dad. Was it something that came out of nowhere almost or was it like, this has been building up for a while, but now I recognize it or maybe a little, maybe.
Yeah, I was at, I think it was coming for a while. Listening to him preach and just sensing, I'm supposed to do this. I can see myself going to my office to work. I can see myself visiting people.
I can see myself preaching and I could see that. And it's like, no, it's not supposed to be. And the more I began to see that, the more I'm like, am I, but I don't think so. And then I went and talked to her dad. Well, I told her and she's like, no, you're not. I did not marry a pastor. You're not going to be a pastor. So you got it from your dad and then from your wife. And it's like, my people were telling me, don't do this. You got to go to her dad and be like, can I please be a pastor?
And he told me, cause I told him that and he said, why don't you think about it? What would you do that would make you really happy? And then go do that.
Yeah. And if you think nothing else can make you happy, but being in ministry like this, this is what you're called to do. So I spent like a couple of weeks just thinking about it until I realized I think this is it. And so I went to him. So you feel like that story all falls under the wisdom view where it was like, there's options out there, but I feel like this is the best option.
I believe here it was more of a relationship. God just nudging me in that direction. But then to realize I need to go get educated. That's more of the wisdom view because I knew that I am education minded, very much always has been.
So that's what I want now. I don't want to just be a pastor. I want to be a pastor who teaches people, who explains concepts and grounds them in the word and is not afraid to take on the heavy matters. That's where the wisdom view came in. That's true. So not everybody is going to take the same career path. So unless you have a clear calling, like I did in a sense, a safe place to begin is the wisdom view. That's a great point.
Right? Begin by knowing that God has given us work. Work is a blessing. So challenge the wrong perspectives on work. Work has its problems, but God will bless good and honest work and all work must be done unto the Lord. So work is a good thing.
Let's begin there. Wisdom view. Work is not a curse. And I've heard Christians say that too. They're like, you read Genesis three now, work is a curse.
I don't think that's what it means. Adam was tilling the ground. He was still working the garden even before sin came in. People forget that part that Adam and Eve, there was work to be done before sin entered into the picture. Work became burdensome after the curse, but work existed before they fell.
So if you don't like work, I don't know where to begin for you. You got to go back to the blueprint there. But then seek God's guidance. And you do that by daily reading His word and praying. And say, God, show me, show me what I need to do. Show me what you're calling in my life. And daily submit to God's will. Don't just say, I want to do this so I want to be rich.
No. Submit to God's will and say, God, I want to do whatever pleases you. That's a great point. You got to do that daily because we've all had points in our lives where we've submitted to God's will, but we feel like we've done that submitting one time and now I can live the rest of my life.
But you don't realize how far you've strayed and you got to come back to that submission. And so wisdom view again here. Identify the talents, academic aptitudes, natural leanings that God has given to you because God has blessed you. There are things you guys do and all three of you that are here in this room, all of us are four, but three different people other than me, you are gifted differently.
Ryan is gifted differently the way he cares and the way he reaches out to the youth and the way he's very particular about how things are done. I mean, that's him. I cannot be him. And that is a gift. John, I mean, creatively you think outside the box and the funny stuff folks is John, not me.
It's not us. And so you think outside the box. That's great. And I recognize that in you. And even before the radio show got off the ground, I said, this is going to have to be you.
That's true. And remember that conversation? I know David over there is feeling left out. Yeah. He's like, what is his gift? He presses the buttons pretty good. He rides the faders pretty good. Yeah.
Now he, there you go. The video audience just got dizzy. David's very good at editing the show and understanding the content. David knows you.
And so your content, like when you run over time, stuff has to be cut out. But a novice would just cut out the first thing that he sees. You know, David knows you, he knows your heart, your message. He's very good at knowing people, understanding the why of what we're doing. That's right. And really just, I mean, he's very, very good at editing the show. He has a servant's heart and sometimes we have to remind him of that. That's true.
But then again, we all have to be reminded of that. Right, David? He doesn't have a microphone over there.
He's in the video position today. But I mean, singing wise, who can touch David? Not me.
I've tried. And the gifts and writing, songwriting, of course, technology, all that. I mean, so we're gifted differently.
And so recognizing those gifts and then recognizing spiritual markers in your life for those who are looking for a career, your gifts and talents, God's nudgings in your life, spiritual markers, recognizing when he is speaking to you, and then be sensitive to the leading of the Holy Spirit. That's right. He's there.
That's right. Amen. Amen.
Man, that was so great. So helpful. I know there are those of you listening at home that, I mean, today's episode transformed the way you think about your career.
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