Coach Wooden’s Lesson on Humility

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It is graduation. Imagine Ryan livid at a kindergarten graduation. That was true.

That was true. Welcome to the gripe vine! Hilarious.

Very nice. I like this. Here's my gripe.

We need theme music for the gripe vine next. Here's my gripe, okay? You've been to graduations, probably many of you around this time. Whether it's kindergarten, high school, higher education, whatever it is, usually you're calling out a lot of names in rapid succession. Right. Typically.

Right. And so most people, when they get up there, they'll say something like, please hold your applause to the end. And then people don't do it. And people don't do it.

People never do it. Because why? You don't care about all these other graduates. Right.

You care about your graduate. So when that person walks across the stage, you want to cheer for them. Right. My gripe is let the people cheer.

What? Stop telling people to hold their applause to the end. Stop telling them to not clap after every single name. They're gonna do it anyway. And it just makes you look like you don't have anything under control.

Wait, wait, wait. Your gripe is that they're making people follow the rules? My gripe is do away with the rules.

Break the rules. Right. That is surprising to me. Really.

It is. I thought for sure. It irritates me because you know when you say that, please hold your applause to the end. You know that no one is gonna listen to you. You know that.

You know when you say that, which is why you had to say it in the first place. I'm dumbfounded. I'm floored.

I thought for sure you were gonna say your gripe is that they're in the crowd not following the rules. No. No.

This is so unlikely. You think if I attend my sweet little baby's graduation, I'm gonna wait to the end? Because we're H's. My last name is an H. We're smack in the middle.

Smack in the middle. Yeah. You think I'm gonna wait to the end? You're a rule follower. You're a rule follower. I am, which is why I'm saying do away with this rule.

Oh, I'm floored. I do away with it. I'm done. I remember being in high school thinking it was a dumb rule, but then I kind of get it because you don't want the ceremony to last all day. So you're just like, hey everybody, hold your applause to the end. Only problem is when you see people walk past, the graduates have to walk past in just like uncomfortable silence.

Exactly. It's just so awkward when they walk by and it's like chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Call somebody's name. I got a lot of buttons here. I'm getting scared. Call somebody's name.

Nicholas Paul Shaw. I hate that for you. I hate that for you.

What you want is this. Yeah. Nicholas set me up nice with this. Nobody says these names in rapid succession like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. So it's not like a name is gonna be cut off by the applause. Just let him clap. Just let him clap.

It's not gonna take any extra time. They gotta walk across the stage anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yay!

That's my little baby walking across the stage. Just applaud. Applaud. Don't be such a stickler. Do away with the rule.

Let people clap. Okay, two things. Number one, this is gonna be a problem. This should not be here in front of me. This is gonna be a little problem. Number two, I can't believe.

First and foremost, I agree. Yeah. This is just out of character for you. This is out of character for you, for Ryan Hill, Boy Scout to be saying, down with the rules. I'm gonna cheer. I remember people being like, woo! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then people be like, we do just want to remind everyone. They said to hold the applause. We do want to just remind everyone to hold your applause to the end. And it must be hard being that school administrator knowing that you're being ignored. Absolutely.

And that's my point. You know people are gonna... You know that they're going to disobey you. Can't stand it. Okay.

Let's ask Dr. Shaw, because Dr. Shaw has probably been to more graduations than all of us. Yes. I wonder what he feels about this rule. He's a clapper. He's a Let'em clapper. Let'em clap. I think he's like Let'em clap. Let'em clap. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Let'em clap. Let us know your take. Clap or no clap. Write in and let us know.

Have you ever been thrown out of a graduation for disobeying the rules? Air horn. Now that's a little much. I will say that. That's a little much. Just limit it to the applause, but let him clap. There you go.

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Dr. Shaw, I want to begin with just an introduction of our Clear View Today team. I'm going to do it two times. I don't want you to tell me which one you prefer. Okay.

So this is what we would normally do. If everybody would please hold your applause till the end. Introducing Dr. Abbadon Shaw, Dr. Ryan Hill, John Galantis, David Williamson, and Nicholas Shaw. Now you tell me which one you like better. Introducing, and if everybody would, hold your applause till the end, Dr. Abbadon Shaw, Ryan Hill, John Galantis. So we do want to say, if y'all would please hold your applause till the end. Introducing on David Williamson, and on the switcher, Nicholas Shaw. Now one of the, by the way, we got a sound effects machine for anybody who can't tell. One of those took, I would say five or six times as long.

Which one of those do you prefer? Because you go to a lot of these graduations and things like that that happen. I'm okay with just go ahead and applaud.

Between every name. That's what I'm saying. Just go ahead and applaud. Let him go. That's what Ryan was saying.

Let him go. It takes the whole thing to take long. Who cares? They're going to do it anyway. And it's encouraging people not to follow the rules. They're going to do it anyway, without fail. Every time you're at something that somebody says, please hold your applause till the end, no one listens. Everybody's going to applaud anyway. Just let them do it. That way you don't have to sit there and correct them. Because their baby is graduating, their little kid is running. And then there'll always be that one and then a lot of people laugh because somebody else applauded somebody else.

And then the other thing is like the ones who wanted to but follow the rules and didn't will then be resentful of the ones who don't follow the rules and then they didn't get in any. But here's a question. I have a question. Yes. Yes. Would you be the first one to break the rule? No. Goodness, no. Absolutely not.

That is a good question. But if everybody else is doing it, I'm fine. So I wasn't going to step forward and get arrested. Then we'll follow through. I have a video and if I can find it, I want to put it in this episode.

I have a video of your daughter bullying me to do it. Yeah. I remember this. Because nobody was going to do it. Because these are people getting their PhDs. This is not like a high school graduation. This is like a prestigious event. You go down, they put all the stuff on you, regalia. People are shaking hands and all that stuff. They're wearing like ceremonial robes.

It's about as... I mean, it's the highest degree you can get. It's high ceremony.

Yeah. It's high ceremony. And so Abigail's like, we're all going to cheer. I'm like, this is a PhD.

They're not going to do that. She's like, we're doing it. So then there's a video of her giving me like knife eyes, like telling me, I'm going to hurt you. I'm going to hurt you if you don't do it. And I'm like, no, no, no.

So then they call it Dr. Abaddon Paul Shaw. And everybody just goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And it's so not the place for it.

It's so not the place for that. It felt a lot louder than it probably was. Yeah. And I wanted to do it so that if Abigail did it and none and nobody else did it, it was going to be bad. So I was like, all right, I got to do it. That's right. Yeah.

We're all doing it together. Yeah. That's what it was, man. That's what it was.

You know, I'll be thinking about, uh, that was my gripe earlier today was people who have that rule. Like, please hold your applause to the end. Just let him clap. It's not that that's right. Right.

Just let him clap. Right. But in this season that we're in with graduations and ceremonies and all that good stuff, you know, we, we, we had the opportunity to attend one not long ago, um, an athletic awards banquet. And you know, in, in ceremonies like that, everyone is focused on achievement and accomplishment and sort of like a padding your resume moment. But you reminded us at that banquet, and I think it's a great reminder for us to, uh, to keep our, our humility in check, to keep our attitudes in the appropriate place.

That's right. I talked about humility. I talked about good pride and bad pride, the importance of confidence, and at the same time, the self-focus of bad pride. And then also what is true humility? I talked about that.

And then finally, how do you develop that spirit of humility, uh, not only in your team, but also in any organization that you're part of, how do you, how do you have the spirit of humility? Right. And, and I did my research.

Of course, I leaned on John Maxwell a lot because I really admire him and his work and we read his works and we're getting ready to read another book by him, High Road Leadership just came out. I encourage you guys to go get it. Uh, but, uh, it, it really puts things in perspective because pride comes before the fall. It's a, it's a biblical warning. And um, I don't want our team to fall.

Neither do I want myself individually to fall and of course our young people who are about to embark on a career or school or college or university or something else, they need to walk with a proper perspective and be humble. So that's what we talked about. That's exactly right. I think that's such a good reminder for people too, because a lot of times we have this mistaken idea of what humility is in the Christian life. Humility in some people's interpretation is just like, I'm going to sit over here and not take up any space and I apologize for existing and I'm just going to be as quiet and mousy as possible.

But that's not really what the Bible describes as humility. That's right. Coach Wooden was, uh, John Wooden was a very humble man.

He was, of course, as you know, he was the legendary basketball coach of UCLA, the Bruins, and he won an incredible 88 consecutive games in NCAA men's basketball. That's amazing. That's incredible. Consecutive games.

Can you imagine that? It's like, yeah, we won a game. Yeah, we won a game. Yeah, we won a game. We won a game. Never gets old. And his overall record was 620 to 147.

Wow. 628, 620 wins. And then, of course, they won 10 national championships.

That's incredible. Some of his famous players who played under him, uh, uh, men like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, of course, you know, went on to play for the Lakers, very famous person still to this day. And then, of course, Bill Walton, who's a sports caster, you see him, I think, on ESPN, but he is very well known as an analyst and talks about basketball and all that. But Coach Wooden had just this spirit of humility. And in a book titled How to be like Coach Wooden, Pat Williams, now, Pat Williams was a past senior VP of Orlando Magic. He also played, and of course, he is up in his 80s now, I believe. And he wrote this book on how to be like Coach Wooden, and he talks about this incident that took place.

When I say incident, it's like a happening. When another coach by the name of Ollie Johnson, who was the former Montclair State University coach, he was standing there with Coach Wooden at some kind of a coaching seminar or something like that, and they were on a line. And just looking at the length of the line, it would take two hours to get through.

So many people on the line. And on the other side of the table was another coach, Coach, I can't remember the name now, but he was there, and he saw Coach Wooden, and he's like, oh, you don't have to stand in line. He said, hey, come on this way. And Coach Wooden actually just said, that's OK, I'm good. And then he turned to Ollie Johnson and said, I'm no better than anyone else.

And yes, there are times that if somebody does give you that preference, they're giving you honor, it's OK to take that honor. But in this situation, there were many eyes on Coach Wooden, and he felt like at that moment, for me to skip the line and go, would communicate just a pride, like, OK, you mediocre people can stay in the line, I shall bypass this. I'm thinking about when you guys are going to this athletic banquet, and you're seeing all these young people who are athletes in high school, this is their identity. Now they're venturing out of high school, and some of them are like, I want to continue being an athlete, or some of them are like, now I don't know what to do with my life.

Where does this conversation go? Because you spend four years being on top of the world, being like the star of your high school football team or your basketball team or whatever, but now I'm going down a different path in life, what do I do? When we talk about pride, I need to clarify, there is good pride and bad pride. The good pride would be something like saying, I'm so proud of you, your mom and dad saying that, or your wife saying about you, or you saying about your wife, or your children, I'm so proud of you, buddy. Or taking pride in your work, whatever that work is, whether it's writing a sermon or writing a song or building a structure or whatever you do, taking pride in that. That is the good pride. The good pride breeds or fosters confidence. Nothing wrong with confidence.

That's why somebody even walks around with just hunched over, I'm so, I'm a nobody. That's not being humble. Maybe you don't have confidence. Confidence is sometimes a missing element between a winning team and a losing team. You will more than likely lose if you don't have confidence. Confidence is the assurance that you have done the work and you are ready to take on the challenge that is coming your way. You have the training, you have the gifts, you have the talents. You have prepared yourself for this hour. Confidence is good. That's the good pride.

Some churches don't have confidence. There's a piano player on our worship team and she is, without a doubt, one of the best. She taught piano for years and years and years, but when I first met her, we were very, very new in the songwriting aspect of our ministry. We were figuring things out and I remember I asked her, I said, how is your sight reading? Without missing a beat, she said, it's excellent.

My sight reading is excellent. One iota of me was like, man, that was so prideful to say. It put me at ease. That confidence where she was like, I have worked, God has given me this gift and I've worked at it and this is how I can use it to serve this ministry, I never was put off by it at all. In fact, I was like, man, thank goodness she said that. Like somebody saying to you, like, hey, we're ready for the service, ready for the show, ready for the program. Yes, we are ready.

Let's do this. That's good. I don't want somebody to say, well, you know, it's not about me. I don't know. Hey, look, it's all by God's grace. It's like, oh, what's going to look like the wind out of my sail. That's right. I just have a flat tire now.

I don't know what to do. So those, so let's not misunderstand. There is a place for good pride, but then there's also the bad pride. And this is the pride that is full of self. It focuses only on self. It's all about the self.

This kind of pride has a very distorted image of who we are. You know, like who we are is complex, but not that complicated because there is part we understand. Right. And there's a part we know is there, but we don't understand. But then there is a part we don't even see, we don't even understand. So true humility is knowing I really don't know everything about myself.

And I really don't think I am all that. Right. Yeah. So it is very detrimental to one's self. Pride is very detrimental as well as to the team. When we're not teachable, you cannot grow and you cannot grow and neither can your team grow because all of us think I'm all that. That's right.

That's right. This is not healthy confidence. This is actually pride. And you may even try to glorify your mistakes. Hey, I did that. Let me tell you why I did that. And it's good what I did because I did that and it's good. Yeah.

What do you do now? How are you going to learn from that? You cannot have a good team spirit. You're going to have poor morale. I mean, if you ever see a church suffering from poor morale or a team or a business or you know, some political office, a group of people are struggling is because someone there is full of themselves.

So the morale is very low. That's a great point. And maybe you can talk to that because I think that's a very, that's a very good distinction to make. We are talking about a church setting. You know, if I walk into a doctor's office, lawyer's office, you know, someone who's quote unquote real powerful, I want them to have that bravado and that confidence. But for some reason, people don't want that from the pulpit.

Why do you think that is? Because in the pulpit they think, well, humble Jesus meek and mild, but I think they misunderstand what that means. Because Jesus meek and mild does not mean that he was not confident.

Right. Oftentimes I feel like it gets turned into humble Jesus weak and wimpy. Meek and mild is great, but Jesus was not a pushover. Even if Jesus didn't stand on business. Whimpering person in the, this is the same Jesus who was like turning over tables.

So meek and mild does not mean like cowering in the corner. No, Jesus stood on business. He knew what he was there to do. And that's why the common people loved him is because he spoke with authority unlike their leaders. That's what they liked him. They didn't, they didn't like, oh, he goes in depth or whoa, look how he uses illustration of this.

They said he speaks with authority unlike the Pharisees and the scribes. So going back to the bad pride, it is not good. It's not healthy.

It destroys relationships and it may even lead to bad choices. True. Okay.

It's full of pride, it's full of self, and that's when people do things. That's why, have you heard of athletes who are so good and yet they make such bad decisions? 100%. Yep. Right. I mean, we were just watching one on TV, the US golfer who got arrested for assault.

I don't know the details and it may come out that he did not do anything wrong. Okay. But just to think about that, you're so good.

You're number one. Yep. Why would you pull that? Right. Because you get to a certain point where you feel like you're untouchable and you feel like the rules of life don't apply to me.

And that's the bad pride. Because I'm up above the hoi polloi of everybody else. Self. Yep.

Self. Yeah. Can we have a boo?

Yeah. I don't think we have a boo. Boo, self.

Boo. There you go. There it is. There it is. Self. Wrong answer.

Wrong answer. So it will keep you from reaching your God-given potential and be successful. Yeah. And the antidote to pride is to recognize that you have the bad pride in you. Very true.

Very true. That's the antidote. That's where it begins. Say, okay, I have a problem. It is self. I am full of self and I'm the cause of why my team, my church, my business is struggling. And something I've heard you say to your students a lot, Ryan, is that the bad pride is not always arrogance. Yeah. It's not always, I'm the greatest.

Sometimes it is masqueraded as humility. Yeah. I mean, I'm the worst. Yeah.

I'm poor pitiful. Look at me because it's still self-focused. Yeah.

It's just pride wearing a negative wrapper. That's right. That's right.

That's a good one. I like that. Yeah. Ryan is coming up with a- It's pretty good.

Can we just get a golf club for Ryan? Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. There it is. So begin by recognizing- I was going to say, yeah, we need to get that. Yeah. Begin by recognizing that those who have helped you in life, like pastors, like coaches, like parents, like teachers, even friends, teammates, begin by recognizing these are people who help you. That's right.

So you are where you are because of the team. And I hope, I am humble. I hope so. I'm not going to be the one who is judging myself there. Hope others can.

And I'm sure other people may think I'm prideful. But at least in this area, I believe you guys are a huge, a big part of the success here. Our team.

Thank you. So the reason, and I want to talk about what you just said for a second, the team helping. The pride in a negative rapper.

I say that because that's something that has been an ongoing struggle for me. I grew up with that mindset of like, I'm the worst. I'm nothing. I'm nobody.

Don't pay attention to me. And it wasn't until I confronted that shortly before starting here at Clearview that I realized, man, that's not being humble. That's still prideful because I'm still focused on myself.

It's just talking bad about myself. And through learning from you, Dr. Sean, through you helping me overcome some things and talk through some things and think rightly about things, I'm able to walk with more confidence than I had in any of my years previous, not because of like how amazing and wonderful I am and throw confetti in the air, but because I know how God has shaped me and who God has made me to be. And I know my place on our team and what I'm able to bring to the table in order to make our team better in order to bring the gospel forth. So thank you for the impact you've had on my life in helping course correct those areas.

I would say the exact same thing. That's something that I feel like I still have not confronted all the way. Because it gets drilled into your head, humility is the same as humiliation. And when you're young, and I was young when I was learning those lessons, I always saw like in movies and in TV series, it's not just preachers, it's everywhere in Hollywood that the arrogant people are always the bullies and by the end, they fall, you see them fall.

And so it's like, okay, I have to be the opposite of that. And so what you think is the opposite of that is weakness, victim. So just be humble, quote unquote, which means out of the way, quiet, weak until circumstances get you there.

But then you end up in your 30s and you're like, I'm still weak, still useless, I'm still not where I need to be. And that caricature of humility is not the opposite of arrogance. And it's only through talking to you and being here at Clearview, taking responsibility, taking ownership of things that you start to realize like, oh, God is waiting for me to begin this process of building confidence.

He's not going to just drop it in my lap because I was patient. That's right. So I would definitely encourage people, especially graduates, to recognize that you have the bad pride, recognize those who have helped you in life, pray and thank God for giving you all the blessings in life, and then also work on creating a spirit of humility in your team. That's right. And John Maxwell gives four ways you can do that. Number one is don't think less of yourself.

Just think of yourself less. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. That's a good one. Allow yourself to fail, but know it's not the end of the world when you do. So failure is not final.

When mistakes are made, recognize the problem, solve it, and then move forward with the new knowledge. Don't stay there because that staying there and there's mulling over it is still part of pride. That's right. Right? Yeah. Okay. That ended. That was not bad. That was not good. That was humiliating. That was humbling.

Okay. Learn from it. And then creating a spirit of humility. Live with the mindset that there is always something to learn from everyone. That's right.

Everyone on the team. And so I hope we will develop that spirit of humility and don't just look to Coach Wood and look to Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. Who being fully God, became fully man, let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus.

That's right. And to be like Christ. Amen. Perfect example for us and perfect reminder for us, especially in this graduation season. If you guys enjoyed today's episode, write in and let us know, 2525825028, or you can visit us online at ClearViewTodayShow.com. Don't forget, you can partner with us financially on the same website. Be a part of what God is doing with the Clear View Today Show by clicking that donate button and helping us get the gospel to the nations. Lots of great content coming your way the rest of this week. Make sure you guys tune in. We love you guys. We'll see you tomorrow on Clear View Today.