Tuesday, September 19th | Greece (pt.2)

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In the wording here, interesting. Notice that Nehemiah is not saying if you feel like it or if you have time, if you're having a good day, just stand up and bless the Lord forever. Bless the Lord. And that posture of just worshiping God, no matter what our life is looking like, no matter what our circumstances are, that's the heart of what we ought to be doing as Christians. That's the heart of our show.

Oh yeah. If you're a worship pastor or worship leader or you just have, if you've led worship before, you know that there's a lot of times you have to convince Christians it's worth their time to stand up and sing. Like you have to convince them like, Hey guys, the reason we're doing what we're doing is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And it comes to a point where it's like, this should be self evident to you. You know, singing is not really my thing. It's not really worship. Worship really is my thing. Okay. But it's God's.

Yeah. And I can tell you what, I said this the other week. It's like, you may be in a place where like singing is not your thing, but if you're going to heaven, you better get used to it real soon. Cause that's all you're going to be doing for all of eternity is praising the Lord. And I love that blessed be your name, which is exalted above all blessing and praise means no matter how much I bless you, no matter how much I praise you, I'm still not going to encapsulate all of your glory and all of your goodness. That's how good God is.

That's right. Speaking of things that are good. I want to talk about something that's bad. You know why?

Cause it's time for the gripe vine. I couldn't get Ellie to do, well, I did get her to do it, but it took some control and she didn't want to make the sound. Oh, you gotta make the sound.

She definitely didn't want to do the, do the eating the ground. I don't like it. I really don't like it when I go to McDonald's other fast food restaurants too, but it's really bad at McDonald's and it's like they get somewhere else they need to be. They're like rushing me. Oh my.

I'm so glad that you said that. It's like they, all right, all right. I'm going to be, I'm going to be a McDonald's employee and I just want you to order. Sure. All right. So I'm all right. So this is role play time. Okay.

This is like, whose line is it? Hey, can I get a number two combo with, with fries, fries, anything else? Yes.

I also like a number four number four. Is that it? No. Number four with, um, can I get that with a baked potato combo with fries and a number four with a baked potato? Is that it?

No, I still have, I still have several more orders to go. Um, can I get it continue when you're ready? Can I get a kid's meal with a chicken nuggets, chicken nuggets?

Is that it? No, it's not. Can I get another kid's meal? Continue with your order, sir. I'm like, dude, where do you got to be? You at work, bro. You are at work. You are here, sir. You hear from nine to five and then from five o'clock to nine o'clock or 10 o'clock, someone else is going to be where you're at.

You are at work. You're here to take my order. I'll let you know when that's it.

This is especially aggravating. If you have a family of a large, can I tell you how many times I've been through the drive through and I had to preface my order with saying, Hey, I have seven orders that I'm going to have to let them know ahead of time. I will tell, I will tell you when I'm done, but I have seven orders in order that I have to put in. So just buckle up, get ready, flex your fingers if you have to, because here we go.

It's got to be, it's gotta be part of their training because every, not, not just some, every McDonald's I go to across the nation, one there, it's like someone is telling them in McDonald's corporate policy after they tell you what any item, ask them if that's it. Ask them that if they're, if they're done, if that's all, it's like, bro, I'm trying to spend more money. Here's, here's a better way to do that. Like, can I get anything else for you today? Yeah, that's a better way to do that because number one, it's kind number two, you might actually upsell me on something like I may have been on the fence about a milkshake, but if you're like, can I get anything else for you? Well, you know what?

I've been good. I'll get a vanilla milkshake, but if you rush me a hundred percent, it's not going to happen. They do. It's like they rush me every single item. They have to check with me if that's it.

And I promise you it's irritating. Yeah. And you feel like you got to tell them like, Hey, I'm, this is a big order. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big order. So just sit there and this is crazy, but just take the order. Yeah.

You don't got to facilitate the order and process. It's even worse when there's people behind you or they're rushing you. And I'm like, do you, do you not see the number of people in my family? Do you, you want me to talk faster?

How do you want me to do this? I'll give it to Chick-fil-A their customer service is own. Yes, it is. I got it. I got to give, I don't love chicken. Chicken is not one of my favorite, uh, like Southern foods, but I'm going to give it to them. I go there sometimes and order something I don't even want just because of the customer service is out of this world. I don't even want a frosted lemonade.

I just want to be spoken to with respect. It is their pleasure. You know, we saw a McDonald's, it's not a Chick-fil-A. We saw McDonald's in Greece. Really? We drove past it. Yeah. It was like, it was like almost like three stories. Yeah.

Um, but they weren't, they didn't seem as prevalent. You know what was prevalent over there? What's the KFC really? Lots of KFC. Somebody, somebody that's, that's interesting.

I would not have suspected that somebody sent pictures of dominoes. Yeah. That was in Athens. So that a little bit bigger city vibe. Uh, but there was KFC almost everywhere we went.

That's crazy. I'm like, KFC really? What was the food like in Greece? Was it good? So good.

What was it? Was it mostly vegetable? A lot of meat, lot of starch.

It was, it was kind of a balance. There was, there was vegetable. There was Greek salad was kind of at every meal, um, which is just tomato and cucumbers and onions and feta cheese and the olive oil.

Um, that was pretty much a staple. There were a lot of meat. Um, they had not as much lamb as I was expecting. Yeah.

Lamb is pretty big in Israel. Yeah. Uh, but chicken, pork, um, beef in places and uh, I was so good. Cool. So delicious. Awesome. Well, and they didn't rush you from the table.

No, they didn't. If you're like, can I get a lamb kabob? Lamb kabob, is that it?

Honestly, if anything, we could have, they could have gone a little bit quicker. Really? Because I guess in Greece dining is sort of an experience. So we sat down to eat somewhere and we're kind of like, you know how we paste things here in America. Like by the time you're wrapping up your appetizer, your main course should be hitting the table. This is not, it is not that way in Greece. Like you finished the appetizer, appetizer plates are cleared from the table and then you're going to wait for 10 to 15 minutes before the main course comes out.

Oh wow. And that's just how it's designed. Do you order or do they just bring you the food? No, you order well in some places. In some places we just had a set thing that we were getting. But, um, you sit there and it's just meant to be this experience where you're talking and laughing and bonding for several hours and we're like, yeah, we got to go. I got a fine Paul. Yeah.

Uh, but it was, Oh man, it was so good. Cool. We're going to bring Dr. Shaw in just a second. Continue talking about Greece, uh, and tell you about our trip.

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Dr. Shaw is the author of a book called Cali Spera, which means summon your Greek ancestry. Let me pull it out to the surface. I'm going to guess it's good day. It's good day, right? Good day.

Good day. Cali Spera is good afternoon. Cali Mero is what you say in the morning.

Good morning. And then Cali Spera is what you say in the afternoon. Cali Zephta is like Which means there's not a good night, like good evening. It's not a good evening, it's a good night. We're leaving. We're going now. We're going to bed now.

No more talking after this. I've said Kali nikta. That's it. Kali nikta means conversation, as my dad would say. That is the pin in the conversation. The party is over.

The party is well and truly over. Well guys, we are sharing today about our recent trip to Greece. Dr. Shah and I and team David, Nicholas, a team of other people went to Greece and it was just, man, it was the time of our lives.

It was unbelievable just to learn and to walk Paul's steps. Last show we talked about our time in Thessalonica, our time in Philippi, our time in Cavaala, which is Neapolis. This was the place where Paul came after he got the Macedonian call. He came across from Troas, which is in modern day Turkey, Asia Minor, and he came across to Greece. It felt like a sequel to your previous trip because in your previous trip you were all in Turkey, modern day Turkey. What would have been Ephesus? What would have been like Asia Minor, where he was trying to get to?

And then the Macedonian call happens and he just is like, all right, I'll just scoot on over to Greece. And you're like, I'm going to. Here we are.

Me too. So may I finish up at Asia Minor? And then in September I'm in, in Thessalonica, Philippi. So it's just about the same time. Yeah. Yeah.

The same time span. That's pretty awesome. That's funny because like the Bible says, it's like, all right, he couldn't do that. So he just went on ahead to Greece. But like, you think it's like the next day he's just landing in Neapolis. No, he's got to go on that boat. It was not a long trip.

Yeah. Not, it didn't take, definitely didn't take three months to get there, but it was a boat ride. And that brought him Samothrace, that Island, and then into Neapolis, which is Cavaala. And from Cavaala to Philippi where Lydia's baptism takes place, the Philippian jailer gets saved. His whole family gets saved. That demon possessed girl with the spirit of Python.

Maybe we'll talk about that briefly. She also set free. The church is born, but then persecution comes, as you know, thrown in the jail and the Philippian jailer gets saved through that. But then the authorities try to make them leave. But Paul says, no, we're not just going to leave.

You have to come and set us free. Now, why do you think Paul did that? You have the answer to that, Ryan? I mean, think about that. I mean, it was kind of like if we, if we were to just leave because they said leave, they could next moment say, Hey, they're escaping. Right. That's true.

They would have them killed. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, he, in a way, Paul protected the Philippian jailer. He made sure that they were still in place. He maintained their reputation. Like they weren't escaped convicts.

Right. Just because the jail busted open, they fled. They're like, no, I mean, we're here. We've been in prison. We're not going anywhere.

You have to come and help us get out. That's something like Paul's scholarship coming out. Like he knows how to think.

He knows how to think ahead and not just say, okay, well fine. If he tells us to leave, we'll leave. But tomorrow they could send out a posse of soldiers or assassins or whoever to say, go kill them because they're jailed. You know, they're, they're, they're escaping jail.

Right. Paul didn't do that, but he went on from there to Thessalonica. And then from there to Berea, he, they were, they were chased by those who were not accepting the faith of the Messiah. So that's one thing that I wanted to bring up because when we talked about it, the day before y'all left, we were doing that devoted, that show on your sermon devoted and, and how much trouble Paul was going through.

And then we cut the mics off and we just started talking here and there. And I said, I never realized that Paul went to, Paul went to Thessalonica. They were like, hey, you got to get out of here. And he's like, all right, fine.

I'm going to bounce. He goes to Berea and the people from Thessalonica are like, go to Berea and cause trouble for him. Yeah. They went after him. They chased him down.

They went, they followed him into another town and were like, no, you can't do it here either. The thing that got me was, and we talked about this when we were in Thessaloniki was, you know, these, these, this was religious leaders who had a problem with Paul, but they got rabble rousers. I mean, they got like just kind of just thugs and then they threw the city into chaos. Yeah.

I'm like, how much do you have to be against somebody that you sabotaged your own city? Yeah. You just throw the whole thing into chaos because they were against Paul. And then you see like a completely different heart in Berea, right?

Cause that's where he goes. The Bereans were, and I'm preaching on this. I preached on this because it was, they were fair-minded.

Yeah. They took the time to listen to Paul and then go home, open up their scriptures and see if Paul was right to confer Paul's preaching with the documents, with the scripture. And Paul calls them more fair-minded or Luke, I guess, calls them fair-minded. And so that's what my message is to our churches is, you know, be fair-minded, go home and see for yourself. Is this what the scripture is saying?

What you heard preach is, is this really in the scriptures. And so again, the Thessalonica troublemakers from Philippi, they came there as well cause trouble. Paul had to finally leave. And this time he went all the way down to Athens. What was Athens like? Cause I know that's gotta be like the pinnacle of the trip in a lot of ways.

Well, before we went to Athens, we stopped at a couple of places on the way on our trip. Oh, I got you. I got you.

Okay. Paul didn't. We, we went on land. Paul went on the water. He got on a ship and came to Athens. We actually just drove straight down from Thessalonica and headed or actually Berea and headed down towards Delphi.

Okay. Now the problem was we were going to stop at at this monastery called Meteora. These are just amazing. What do you call it? Geological formations. These massive cliffs coming out of the ground. It's unreal. And the monasteries have been built upon this at one time, as many as 26 and now it's what like eight or so left.

I think it is. We left the monastery area. We'd really enjoy that. Stayed there a whole day, went to some Byzantine chapels and stuff like that. Learned a lot of history. And then we made our way down. Only bad part was the heavy rains that hit Greece.

I mean, this was not normal. Really? Bridges got washed out. Roads were washed away. While y'all were there?

Oh yeah. We didn't know that. I didn't know that for the first two days because I'm so just enjoying Northern Greece, but I could hear people talking about this. And once in a while I would look at the news and I'm like, wow, is that Greece? Cause it's not like that bad here.

But in the middle and Southern part of Greece, it was torrential rain and roads and bridges are washed away. Yeah. And I asked our guide, I said, is this normal? She said, no, this is not normal at all.

I said, I'm here. She said, I know, but everything is okay right now. Like, are we going to make it down there?

She like, I hope so. She kept saying, she's like, we will, we will pray and we will trust God. And we were in, she was a Christian, right? Yeah.

She's a Christian. We were in, Oh, Kalambaka and we had some taxis that we took to another, another monastery or not a monastery, Basilica. And our, our taxi driver told us it was like two years worth of rain that fell in two days. It was just an unreal amount of rain and we didn't notice it because it was in the streets.

I mean, houses underwater. Yeah. Holy. It was, it was awful. Wow.

It was terrible. Not where we were. Yeah. Yeah.

Before the South. Yeah. We passed by places that looked like rivers and lakes that were not supposed to be there.

People's farmlands that just got washed away. Whole bridges got knocked out. It was, it was crazy. Yeah.

Unbelievable. And our driver was amazing. He was, he was an ex military guy who was a military police guy.

So he, he was just great. I mean, he knew how to drive and so he is looking for ways to get around and get us down to Delphi from Meteora. And I mean, he was driving down roads.

I was like, Oh Lord, help us. We were taking back roads and roads that were kind of like gravel roads in this, in our big tour bus. Right. And some roads were like the sides have fallen out and he's like navigating through some roads.

They have cables on the ground. Really? Oh yeah. Right.

Absolutely. Drove over, drove over cables that had been knocked down and he's the whole time, the whole time we were going through that day, he was calling people, calling his contacts and be like, what about this road? Have you tried this road? Cause if we didn't do that, if we didn't go the way that we were going, it was going to be a seven hour bus ride towards the West to make a loop and come down the low and go back up. And that would have been horrible because we would have lost a lot of time and everything.

It would not have been good. So we actually ended up doing this, but in the process we got to go to a place called Thermopylae. Yeah. So y'all, so you did go to Thermopylae.

I remember that was a big thing before you left. You were really looking forward to going to Thermopylae. And he took us there, stood by Leonidas statue, stood by the pass where 300 Spartans gave their lives under King Leonidas and held off the Persian army.

Wow. Was there anything there or was it kind of like, it's just, it's just nothing but a, you know, just a path there now. It's a, it's, well, actually we're still on the side of the road, the parking lot of this monument, King Leonidas and his 300. And that's about it.

It was amazing. They do, uh, our tour guide said they do have a small museum. It's not, it's not elaborate, but she said there's a small museum around the corner and they have a, there's kind of across the street from where we were across the highway.

It's not really a street across the highway from where we were. They have like a, um, stadium that's kind of built with, with seating that goes up and they have mini outdoor theater. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. So that was on the way to Delphi and we got to Delphi saw Delphi, which was amazing. I mean Delphi, I don't know, words cannot express it, but this is ancient side temple of Apollo, um, temple of Athena.

I mean, just, just so much is there. And, uh, maybe another, another, um, episode, we can talk about that because the young girl who was afflicted by the spirit of Python spirit of Python is coming out of Delphi because Delphi had that's that, that, you know, the, uh, where the Python was, uh, that Apollo defeated. Right. Yeah. And, and, and built the sanctuary, so to speak, mythologically. So one thing that Eugenia kept saying, our guide kept saying, which I agree with her, is a lot of mythology is actually history. Things that actually happened that the Bible speaks about. Yeah. But they have, they did not have the complete evidence, but they did have glimpses of truth and to fill the rest of the gaps, they brought in mythologies and some of it is this distorted mythology, distorted truth that became mythology.

But nonetheless, if you kind of sift away and, and peel away, what is mythology from what may be the truth, what you end up finding is that it's the biblical truth. Right. Do you, do you think that Paul kind of understood that when he was in Athens?

Because he, he spoke to the Athens, I don't think I want to say he spoke gently, but he's, he spoke like, Hey, I can perceive that you are a religious people. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that comes out very clearly in act 17 as he goes to the Agora and we came to Athens by the way, after we finished with Delphi, we made our way to Athens and that was a phenomenal trip. I've been there before several times to Athens and this was my fourth, I guess, or third, third time, twice in one trip and then this one third. But Athens is an amazing city. In fact, every conqueror that came through Athens, they did not completely destroy Athens because they felt like, ah, this is enough. Don't, don't destroy the city. It's got too many good things, too many monuments to humankind.

Let's leave them alone. But in Athens, we didn't get a chance to go through the Agora, the marketplace, but that's where Paul began to walk around and speak. And, and he saw so much, he saw gods and goddesses and, and there was probably on the Acropolis, he must have seen all these statues.

They're also in the Agora by the way. So I don't know if it was in the Agora or the Acropolis, but either way, he saw these statues and his heart was kind of burned within himself and he gets up and makes that powerful, powerful sermon. And y'all stood on Mars Hill where he actually gave that sermon. What was that like?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, we, we went to the Acropolis and walked up to the Parthenon, which means Virgin. And then we went to the Erechtheion. At one time I had said the Erechtheion was a Parthenon, but now it's the opposite.

But Erechtheion is where the maidens are standing. And then we walked around several other temples there and looked around here and there. And then we made our way to Mars Hill. And you climb up Mars Hill and it's, I don't know what I was expecting, but it's different than what I was expecting because it is just this giant stone. I mean, it's just a big boulder that you walk on top of. And it was, when we were there, it was so windy. The day that we were there, there were high winds and the top of that stone, I guess from being exposed to the wind, is so slick.

It is so slippery. It's interesting you bring that up because I filmed with Pastor Shaw on rocky areas before and he sort of turns into like a ninja parkour guy where he's like jumping around and it's like completely nimble. Was there any of that going on this time? Oh absolutely. Really? Yeah. Some of the places that you were able to navigate to, Dr. Shaw, to film, I was trying to get there and I was just, whoa. Yeah.

I remember when we filmed, we would film on like Israeli, like Israelite mountains or I should say mountains in Israel and like in Grandfather Mountain here in North Carolina. And he's like, all right, let's go this way. And he's like jumping from stone to stone like Assassin's Creed.

And I'm like, how do I do that? I knew, I didn't know it was going to be slick, but I did have a feeling there was going to be some navigation going on. That was so windy. I mean, it was so windy. At one point I was, I'm standing close to the edge, like three feet from the edge. So I'm like, yeah, I have room.

But then again, the wind was strong and I was like, any moment I'll get carried away and it's a sheer drop. But anyways, we stood there and we talked about that, about how Paul came here and I know Ryan talked to the students on the camera. I did talking about, you know, Paul said these words from this place because he was struck by the lostness around him. And you know, that, that same, the way that Paul was moved by seeing the world around him and seeing the brokenness and the lostness around him, that we should be moved in the same way to, to step up and to, you know, in love, proclaim boldly the truth of Christ, because that's what Paul did.

Those are the steps that we need to follow. And then from there going down to Corinth. What was that like? Corinth was, um, it was, it was breathtaking to see those, just the, the, the rubble. I mean, we got to walk through what would have been the Agora. We, uh, we walked through, um, you know, where the shops would have been. We saw the Bema in Corinth.

Yep, yep, yep. Was able to walk up. There was a second time going up that Bema and Bema is, you know, this, this place, this pedestal and the Corinth Bema is just huge, but it's a pedestal on which just like in Hyde park, it will stand up. There is a speaker's corner. They get there five minutes to go ahead and say what they want to say.

And then people can contradict that, or they can call them down just like they did with Paul on Mars Hill. Uh, this was the Bema. And, uh, I went up there and I read from acts, uh, again, and, uh, it was, it was pretty amazing. That's pretty awesome. Yeah.

And even prior to going to Corinth, we stopped at the estimates. You want to say something about that, David? Oh man, that was, I forgot about that. That was crazy to see this huge split where ships would like sail through and the water was a blue that I had never like imagined water could be. Uh, and that was, I mean, that was just an awesome sight, especially knowing that this is something that was like manmade.

This isn't like a natural divide. It was to avoid going around the Peloponnese because it's so dangerous and risky for the ships to go through there. The windy, uh, it was so windy there. And then the jagged rocks, you never know what can happen. And you just know that through the centuries, uh, whether it was Alexander the great or Xerxes prior to Alexander the great Xerces, the king of Persia tried to build that canal.

Alexander the great Nero tried to build a canal. Really? All of these people fail because it was like, I mean, it's, it's not, it's a massive task. Yeah.

Am I right? It is. It's huge. I mean, it's breathtaking to sit there and look at it and you're like, how in the world did this happen? It's I mean, it literally looks like a giant axe.

Just cleave the land. It's one of those wonders of antiquity, I guess. It's incredible.

That's incredible. I got a question for Nicholas. What was your favorite part in Greece, Nick? Uh, probably the, probably Athens. Do you like Athens? Yeah, it was my favorite there. What did you, what did you see in Athens that you liked? Uh, we saw, I believe the Acropolis, uh, at night.

That was really amazing. Oh, I bet. Yeah. You had a clear shot of it, didn't you? Sitting in that hotel, in the restaurant, right?

Yeah, a clear shot on top of the roof. It's a breathtaking scene. We're definitely going to be talking more and more about this because I think this trip has, even, even though I didn't go, this trip has been beneficial for me because in, in following you guys, I've learned more about Paul's missionary journey and that Macedonian call than I, than I ever cared to know before. But, but seeing you guys go through it and seeing you take those pictures and film that footage and show it back and like, even for me to see you like on the steps and be like, Paul stood there, Paul, Paul preached right there, or here's the beam of Paul spoke there that bolstered my faith.

And so I can't imagine what it's going to do for people who not only listen to this show, but stay tuned for that footage as it comes out later. And I'm grateful that shot that you, you're not just somebody who goes and educates yourself and comes back and benefits us. You bring people along to educate them. I mean, you did that with Elizabeth and me on this trip, brought us along and helped us learn and grow. And, and we're so thankful.

Absolutely. You're very welcome. That's our goal.

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