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Let's find out together on today's episode of Clearview Today. You're listening to Clear View today with Dr. Abadanshah, the daily show that engages mind and heart for the gospel of Jesus Christ. I'm Ryan Hill. I'm John Galantis, and thank you for tuning in to the Clear View Today show.
We got a great conversation, continuing our conversation from yesterday. But also want to thank all of you guys who texted into the show. We want to hear from you. Two five two four two nine six zero six nine. Do you know someone in your life who struggles with homosexuality, or maybe needs to hear this episode today?
Text us and let us. No, that number again is two five two four two nine six zero six nine. Dr. Shaw, we had a big reaction from people yesterday, mostly positive, saying that you know I've I've had people in my life who struggled with homosexuality. They're in the transgender movement.
They are lost. Probably it all started when they went off to some liberal university where they learned the wrong things, got into the wrong groups. And we did a good job yesterday, I think, of talking about culturally where we are. But I want to talk today a little bit, if you will, about what does God think about all this? You know, does He really take this particular sin more seriously than He does others?
Well, He says it right from the first book in the Bible that He takes that sin very seriously. And if you study the account of the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah or the cities of the plain, it's quite plain what God thinks about it. There are people who have rejected that, and they made it out to be about something other than what it is, and I have covered that in a in a previous episode and in messages before that it was not just about hospitality; it was about homosexuality, and we've covered all of those things, taking care of that.
So, right there in the book of Genesis, there is that clear statement: what God did, but then. In the laws, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, God gave some very explicit commands regarding sexual behavior, not just homosexuality or transgenderism, but also adultery. God made some very clear decrees against crossing those lines. Human beings, of course, did not listen, and things like that have happened in the culture. Of God's people again and again, but then when you come into the New Testament, there are people who will say that yes, that was the Old Testament though.
In the Old Testament, the God was very, very judgmental and law focused. But when you get to the New Testament, that's where grace comes in.
Now I can eat things that I couldn't eat before. I can wear stuff that I wear before, and I can sleep with people that I couldn't sleep with before. Yeah, and there are people even in the from the church, you know, pastors who are claiming that this is how we should read the Bible. This is the way to do hermeneutics, where you leave aside the Old Testament and you go to the New, and New is all about grace and acceptance. And tolerance, and judgment-free zones.
New Testament is all about love, and that's not true. Yeah, yeah. In fact, Jesus demonstrated that in his interaction with the woman caught in adultery. Yeah, you know, some people believe that that passage should not be in the Bible because it does not have good manuscript support. But as you know, I have done my PhD work in textual criticism.
And the more I have studied that passage and the external evidence to the pericope adultery, it it deserves to be in the text. It is not some later addition. It was part of the Word of God, John seven fifty three through eight eleven. But if you pay attention to what happens there, Jesus begins to write on the ground. That writing on the ground, that finger writing on the ground, was people often ask, and have been for centuries.
What was Jesus writing? Was he writing the sins of every person there? Was he just doodling on the ground? What was he doing?
Well, any time there was some writing with a finger in the Old Testament, it was God. The Ten Commandments were written by the finger of God. the The hand that showed up and began to write in the book of Daniel, many, many tekelo parson, was the finger of God. What Jesus was doing. Was not just writing the sins of the of the men who were standing there, or just doodling on the ground.
He was telling them, "I am God." It was less about what he was writing and the fact that he was showing who he was, showing who he was. And he was clearly telling them, "I am God." And then, how does that episode end? It ends with Jesus asking that woman, "So, where are your accusers?" So I don't know, Lord.
Well, neither do I condemn you. Yeah, right. Go and sin no more. Yep, that's the part we usually leave out. Yeah, go and sin no more, which means you sin.
Don't do that again. Yeah.
So, in a sense, he showed grace to her by not picking up a rock to throw, but at the same time, he also called sin sin. Right. That's Jesus now. We don't hear much about homosexuality in Jesus's ministry context because he was in Palestine, quite a conservative area of the time, predominantly Jewish people. But then there were Romans and Syrians and Egyptians and others here and there in Galilee.
But overall, quite a conservative area, so you don't see homosexuality there. But jump over to Romans. In Romans chapter one, the entire chapter very clearly tells us how it's a sin. The people, and Rome itself, was in a different place. Yeah, I was going to say the Jewish people in the Jewish people in Palestine might have been conservative, but not the same for the Roman.
Nah, not yeah. That's right. Very, very different. Yeah, Dr. Shaw.
As we, as we're looking to this, I also find it interesting that people who make that distinction between the Old Testament, God in the Old Testament was all judgment, all law, and all punishment, but God in the New Testament—that's Jesus. It's all grace. It's all love. It's all acceptance. Most often, at least in my experience, that's been people in defense of some sin, in defense of some behavior, trying to justify it by taking Scripture and and twisting it and and using it to.
Fit their ends. Oh yeah, that's and it's kind of interesting that at one time the same group of people, or coming from the same worldview, would make fun of that kind of a hermeneutics. That Old Testament is law and New Testament is grace. They would make fun of it because in their worldview that does not work. In their understanding of biblical interpretation, that was like so superficial, so so basic.
Yeah, I mean that's how you study the Bible. Oh, you haven't been enlightened with all our knowledge of historical critical studies. Oh, how terrible! And now they're choosing this. This old hermeneutics, which was Old Testament law, New Testament grace.
Look, look at the scriptures with that lens. As now, this is the way we study the Bible, and guess what we find? Yeah, our convenient, yeah, because I mean, I don't know what kind of God you worship, but the Jesus I worship loves everybody and accepts everybody. Yeah, the Old Testament is is over, and meanwhile, Bible Jesus is like, I'm raising the stakes over here. They, you can't commit adultery.
I tell you, you can't even look at a woman. That's right. That's a great pass. Thank you for bringing that up because that's where Jesus raises the standard. Yeah, like it's not enough just to say you committed.
It's even if you think about doing it. Yeah, let alone let alone sleeping with another man or trying to be transgender. You're not even allowed to have impure thoughts. Right, right. It's funny, Doctor Shaw, because I think you're exactly right.
We have an agenda. I have something I want to do, and if you have a book or a pastor or someone telling me that I can't do it. I will make it my identity. I will make it everything that it is for me to exist, to prove to you that I can do this. Why do you think we do that?
I mean, it's a human spirit is defiant. It's it's how God made us originally to be courageous and bold and brave. But when sin comes in, the brave becomes brash. The courageous is corrupted, and so, you know, what was supposed to be something that makes us stand tall and stand strong, now only makes us defiant and and and and disobedient to God. Wow.
So, I mean. It's how human beings corrupt everything. That's right, because of sin. You know, Doctor Shaw. I know you were about to read from Romans, and before you do that, I just want to remind everybody listening at home that today's episode is sponsored by La Blue Ultra Pure Water.
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That's right, Doctor Shaw. In we're talking about Romans, where you know it's very evident what God thinks about homosexuality. It doesn't really take place in in Palestine, in the region where Jesus was, but it's very emphasized in Romans, which is of a very different culture.
Well, even before we go to Romans, let's go to Corinthians for a moment. In First Corinthians, chapter six. And this is in verse nine. Paul says something very clear. He says, "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God?
Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites. I mean, I don't know how clear." It can get yeah. That's that's pretty clear. Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
And such were some of you.
So this is not a list to go by and say, oh, you stole something.
Well, you're not going to heaven. That's not the point of that statement. The point of that statement is, and such were some of you. First Corinthians six eleven. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.
So this is not a list to walk around saying, "Hey, you don't match up this list; you're going to hell." This list actually helps us know that those people in Corinth had engaged in that lifestyle at one time, and they got saved. And now they were living a different lifestyle, but they were doing things wrong. And Paul was calling them out and reminding them, "Don't forget where you came from. You were outside the kingdom of God, but because." Of being justified, sanctified, washed in the name of Jesus, and through the Holy Spirit of God, you have been changed. You have been transformed.
Live that life. I'm glad you brought up First Corinthians because there's a lot of really young, arrogant college dropouts online right now who think that they have PhDs in theology who have who can't read Greek, have never attempted to read Greek. But what they'll say is, "Well, you know, you you silly Christians with your English Bible, you know, the word in Greek there where Paul says homosexuals." That's not actually homosexual men. That's actually men who are taking advantage of young boys of of children. Doctor Shaw is a Greek professor.
Is is that what Paul's saying? No, and I mean I have preached on this before, and I wish I had time to go into all the details. No, it is exactly what it says. It is. Yeah, homosexuality was.
Part of ancient culture, ancient ancient some some of the names. If I were to put them out right now, you would be shocked because these are people. Be quote them. They're philosophers who engaged in that kind of behavior. But ultimately, it was.
Homosexuality, yeah, pederasty, and things of that sort, but all of that fell under the category of homosexuality. That's right. Yeah, that's right. You know, we're talking about this, and this is something that you know. Typically, we try to look and say, "How does this affect us?" This doctrine, this theology in the Bible, but this is something I think that today more than ever we can see how it's affecting our culture.
And you know, we were talking about what does God think of all this? I mean, clearly it's a sin, but come on, it's not that. Big of a deal, right? I mean, surely being gay can't be worse than murdering someone. Can't be worse than taking advantage of someone.
Well, if you go to Jude, you know I mentioned so far Jesus, what he said about it, and you brought up from the summer on the mount. We're gonna talk about Paul. We mentioned one passage from First Corinthians, but we're gonna come back to Romans towards second half of our episode today. But Jude. What does Jude say?
Jude verse seven. As Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality, and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example. Suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
So we said earlier about Sodom and Gomorrah that some people, you know, raised the false claim that it was an issue with hospitality, like the people weren't hospitable, they weren't welcoming, so God destroyed them. Which, on the surface, that does not seem to match the character of God. That does not seem to match. If it was genuinely hospitality, that does not seem like the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Yeah, because I kicked David out of my house all the time.
I mean, I would be like, there's not, you know, there's not burning sulfur raining down through the roof. But here, the Bible itself, Jude says that it's not about hospitality. Right. It says that they were going after strange flesh.
Well, see, they they try to read from Ezekiel 16.
Okay, so Ezekiel 16 and verse 49. It says, "Look, this was the iniquity of your sister Sodom." She and her daughter had pride, fullness of food, and abundance of idleness. Neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and the needy, and they were haughty and committed abomination before me. Therefore, I took them away as I saw fit.
So, those people who think this was about homosexuality, about hospitality, they stop at the first half of that statement. Yeah.
And they say she and her daughter had had pride, fullness of food, abundance of idleness, and did not strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. Are there some hermeneutical gymnastics they would employ to jump? They just don't. Are they just don't read it? They just don't read the second verse in verse fifty.
And they were haughty and committed abomination before me. We're not going to read that part. Yeah, so yeah, of course I can say hospitality was a problem in Sodom. I could say that because those angels walked around and instead of opening the doors of their home and letting these men come and just sleep for the night, the men of Sodom decided to go after them. Yeah, and there were other sins that were being committed that came up to the Lord.
So yeah, I would say there were other problems in the city, but to say that according to Ezekiel sixteen, it was only that problem, well. If you read verse forty nine, why don't you read verse fifty? Yeah, because in verse fifty uses that word abomination, and you know I'm I'm reading through Leviticus in my morning devotions right now, and every time that homosexuality is brought homosexuality is brought up, it it does use that word abomination. It doesn't use it for other sexual sins. That's right.
Like there are sexual sins that are laid out in Leviticus that is like you shall not do this. It is wicked, but only when they talk about homosexuality, they use the word abomination. What do what what does that imply, Doctor? I mean. That's that means this is something off limits.
This is this is contrary to nature, as people would say at one time. But I think it's still it's good enough to say now. Yeah, this is against nature. This is against proper order. That's what abomination means.
means It's it's it's it's something that is abhorrent to God. God hates it. And and so for us to say, oh, that abomination, that word—it's just misunderstood. No, it's not. It's exactly what it is.
It's crossing the line way too far. That's what it means. Yeah, yeah. But I want us to go back to Romans because I think that's the passage that we promised our readers that we will walk through. And so if we begin in Romans chapter one, and it says here.
In verse eighteen, for the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness. I'm really starting to think people have not read the New Testament. Yeah, they're talking about this. This is a God of grace and of of mercy and love and nothing else. Yeah, it's like I really don't think you read it.
We skipped Romans one. For since the creation of the world, his invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that were made. Even his eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, because although the new God they did not glorify him as God, nor were thankful, became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Professing to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man, and birds, and forswitted animals, and creeping things. Idolatry.
Therefore, God also gave them up to uncleanness in the lusts of their hearts to dishonor their bodies among themselves.
So, as you can see, ungratefulness—right, this this sense of dismissing the goodness, the grace, the providence of God. They decided to worship nature. What happens next? They they are given over to physical or sexual immorality.
Okay, and where does it lead to? God gave them up to uncleanness and the lusts of their hearts to dishonor their bodies among themselves, who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason, God gave them up to vile passions. That's where now homosexuality comes in.
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So maybe speak to the person right now who's hopefully sitting there in their car or in the gym or wherever, and their eyes are being opened, and they're looking and they're saying, "Wait, here in 2026, I'm seeing all of this uncleanness. I'm seeing all of this sexual perversion rampant in my country, and I'm able to blink and flash backwards to the 70s and 80s where we're taking prayer out of schools, where we're actively removing God." What do you say to the person who's having that revelation right now? You know where they're saying you know maybe the reason we're in this mess right now is because we actively tried to remove God. I'm starting to see the dominoes. Yeah, see how how you know we can trace this back to maybe some bad decisions that seem small at the time, but now we're having far-reaching implications.
All we're going to do is take the prayer out of school. If people don't want to pray in schools, they shouldn't have to. Not knowing that down the road that removing of God, God's going to also give Americans over to uncleanness.
Well, this. Has been coming for a very long time. It goes beyond taking prayer out of public schools. This goes back in the history. If we just want to stay with stick with the American history, the American American experience, then right in the first part of the 18th century.
Okay, so we're talking about the early 1700s. When did the colonists come? They came sometime around 1607. If you go with the Roanoke Colony, you're talking about 1590s. Jamestown Colony, 1607.
Plymouth Colony, maybe 1620s. They just got here.
Okay, people came for different purposes, but ultimately they came from a Christian experience. The ones who came to the Plymouth Colony were different, more Puritanical. The ones who came from the Jamestown Colony were more gentlemen entrepreneurs, different people, but Christian background. How long does it take to get from sixteen, let's just say sixteen twenty, to seventeen twenty? How many years is that?
One hundred years. In just a hundred years, this. Country, which was a very, very, very young colony, or, I guess you can call call it a pre-colonial, yeah, yeah, was already going downhill. I mean, young people were walking the streets; they were getting into all kinds of lascivious behavior, and that's when a pastor. By the name of Jonathan Edwards, preached that sermon, "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God," and then that's when a man by the name of George Whitfield began to come and preach what we know as the First Great Awakening.
And if that hadn't happened, this entire experience, the American experience, would have collapsed. Then you go further out; Methodism comes with John Wesley, and others. And Revolutionary War, the new nation is born.
Now we're entering into the first part of the 19th century. This is 1800s. How many years is it from, say, 1740, when the first Great Awakening really caught fire, to 1840? Another hundred. Another hundred years.
Guess what? Once again, the country is moving west. But morals and morality is gone down the drain, and you needed those tent revivals, those circuit riders to go up and down the coast and go places, and and preach the gospel and call people to revival. Jump over to the 1920s. How many years is that from 1840s to 1920?
About eighty years, about eighty years, yeah, yeah. Once again, with with the that generation, everything began to go chaotic, and people began to do horrible things. World War One happens, and then between World War One and World War Two, I mean, that's when morality in America went completely downhill, and you had evangelists and preachers like Billy Sunday and others began to preach the gospel. This is when. You know, Billy Graham came on the scene in the 1940s, preaching and calling America back to God, and then comes the 50s, 60s, the taking the prayer out of school, and and the radical era, and and all of the rest.
And now we're back at the same place. I mean, what America needs again is a revival.
So, following that trajectory, we're about a hundred years out. We're nearing again from the 1940s. We're nearing again a hundred years. This is that mark where that needle could tip either away from God, or it could tip toward revival. Hundred percent.
What is needed to tip that needle so that we turn back toward God? I mean, it's it's it requires every born again believer who believes in the name of Jesus Christ, who has the Holy Spirit indwelling them, to begin to live out the faith that is in us. To stand firm on biblical convictions, to trust God and God alone to deliver us from where we are, for churches to come alive, to stop competing and envying and being jealous of each other, and start truly living the kingdom life. We talk about the kingdom life, but it's—I don't know what it means for some people—but kingdom life truly is the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. That requires families to start living for God.
Doesn't mean you don't have fun. No, you can have fun. You can have a great life, but living a Christ-centered, God-honoring, Bible-centered, spirit-controlled life to to be a lighthouse in our community—that's what God has called us to be. To be involved in politics. People say politics is bad.
Somebody's values are going to be supreme, right? Right? We hear that often, yeah. I want biblical values to reign supreme. That's right.
So stand for biblical values. Vote for candidates who will support biblical values. Come back to the foundation of our nation. Those are things that are needed, and it's not just one church or one pastor, or one individual who can do that. It requires all of us who claim the name of Christ to begin to pray.
I mean, Second Chronicle seven fourteen, to pray, seek my face, and turn from our wicked ways. Then he will hear from heaven, forgive our sins. And heal our land. That's right. That's right.
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