CGR MONDAY 082123 Part One Rick Manning

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I don't know, that's what I've heard. Maryland beast has been unleashed and it's gonna get ugly here in Maryland pretty quickly. But anyway, apart from Maryland problems, the, no, it's been a good weekend to do it. What happened to your ministries this weekend? Okay, so, well, we didn't have a, well, actually, I take that back.

We actually did. And I may, depending on what the timing is, I don't know what your timing is like, but we actually dedicated one of our wells to a long-time contributor who passed away in 2017. But his family has continued to support our efforts here at Shoden Generation Radio. And he was one of my original contributors 11 years ago and actually spoke to me even then. He said, you know, I see what God is doing and I really believe God is going to make your ministry international.

Wow, that's great. Yeah, and so Adam Mundahl was his name and the Mundahl family, Nate and his sister, Nathan and his sister Brenda have continued their dads, one of their dads last wishes that he asked them. He said, I want you to continue to support Pastor Greg and the ministry that he's doing.

That's one of my final wishes that you would do that. And- And I stepped over the name of the person who was your primary, who was a- Adam Mundahl. Adam Mundahl. And stayed there.

And so for those of you that are in the hill country or San Antonio or Austin or even down in, I believe, the Corpus Christi area as well, if you need somebody to help you with air conditioning and handle your air conditioning needs, I would encourage you to please strongly consider supporting state air. Very good, and the tribute in India is a well that's been dedicated in his name. Yes. Which is phenomenal, bringing life to people, to a couple thousand people who otherwise would be drinking water that you and I would sit there and would look at as I'd rather die than drink that. And so that's just- Well, and the truth be told that many of them have been dying because of it. Right. So you can, so there's the picture next to Rick up on the screen, that video is up on Rumble.

But if it says water pump donated in the loving memory of Adam Mundahl. And so that occurred on this weekend. And then in addition to that, we had our Thursday outreach meeting, which we won't be having the next two weeks because we're gearing up for a huge meeting that is gonna be taking place on the first Thursday in September. We're reaching, we're anticipating between 1500 and 2500.

1500 and 2500. Wow. I mean, we're doing a really major event. And if anybody would like to contribute to that, that would be great because we provide a meal for every single person that comes. But this past Thursday, we had about 70 people that came to that meeting. We had 44 salvations and 29 reported healings. That is fantastic. That is amazing.

Yeah. Well, we, for me, I helped a bunch of kids from India, primarily, move into new apartments at Carnegie Mellon College University there in Pittsburgh. And there's a ministry that greets them in the name of Christ. And these kids come with nothing and it gives them some furnishings that they pick out and allows them to then have at least some furnishings in their apartments to get them started.

But most importantly, it makes a connection. People, many people haven't been exposed to Christianity or may have a very negative view of Christianity. First thing they do when they get to the United States is they meet Christians who have opened arms and are helping them. And it's just part of the throwing down the seeds and hoping to build a harvest out of a people group that most of the people who are coming have no idea what Christianity is.

And by showing the love of Christ up front, hopefully, it bears fruit and God works in their hearts to turn them into believers through other, obviously, through the means that are provided there in Pittsburgh or just through other exposures they have from people who are Christians who just look and think differently. So it's just part of the process. And my part of it was I lifted a lot of furniture this weekend. I saw you, I saw you and your pictures that you posted and I thought it was kind of funny, the dolly story, you know, that you guys used a lot of physical manual labor and then decided, hey, you know, maybe this dolly thing's not so bad after all.

Well, that was me. I said, I'm old, I'm getting a tool. Well, you know what, there's wisdom in our age, Rick. There's wisdom. Beginning of 2001 Space Odyssey where the monkeys are going, and all of a sudden they discover a tool. Well, that was me with the dolly.

I go, hey, I can move a lot more stuff a lot faster with this and it's a lot better than carrying it. So. There you go, there you go. All right, well, let's get to some, I guess, I don't know if it's pleasant news or not so pleasant news, but at any rate, of course, there was a new indictment that came out at the end of this last week against President Trump, another election indictment. And, you know, this one in Georgia. And I guess tomorrow is when he goes to Fulton County and then they set the bail hearing and whatever, and then he goes back. I think that is tomorrow. Yeah.

These guys, it's so repetitive, it's so garbage, just on a basic level, because this has been discussed ad nauseam over the last couple of days. But apparently the Fulton County District Attorney believes she's the US Attorney of the world and can go and indict people all over the world for doing things that had no impact whatsoever on Fulton County. And didn't happen in Fulton County.

So the same person, if they didn't, doesn't see anything wrong with shutting down the counting center under false pretenses and then wheeling out, with video, wheeling out a bunch of ballots after you've already thrown all the observers out so you can start counting again. The same person doesn't see anything wrong there is seeing suspicious things happening all over the country that she's indicting people for. But the main thing she's indicting people for is giving legal advice to the President of the United States. Apparently giving legal advice is an indictable offense now, is a chargeable offense. And folks, if seeking or getting legal advice is a chargeable offense, our legal system is completely and utterly destroyed because the whole basis of it is she didn't agree with legal advice.

I mean, she sat there, that's the basis. You gave legal advice and I don't agree with it. As a result, we're gonna charge you with a crime. This is an attack on our entire system. I think everybody out there realizes it, but I never thought that we'd see such a blatant abuse of the law as we've seen through these four indictments.

So this last one just almost is mind-boggling in its breadth and its danger. I think that their efforts are backfiring as well because the more they go after him, the more the group, it's interesting, not only the hardcore people who are saying, hey, you know what, President Trump is the only one who's gonna be able to go after and resolve these issues, but also that expanse of the folks that are on the fringe of that that are saying, okay, is Mike Pence gonna do anything? He's not. Is Ron DeSantis gonna do anything? I don't know that he's able. I don't know that he can do it necessarily. Is Vivek Ramaswamy gonna do anything? I don't know that he's capable of actually doing it. Is Tim Scott gonna do it?

You know, I mean, none of these, there isn't, I don't know who you see in the field, honestly, that is gonna have the impact and the splash and the, I don't know what to call it, the warrior mentality to be able to take these people on and not be deterred. And I spoke to Christina Robb just a week or so ago because I talked to her, I said, the two biggest things that I think all of us who are supporting him even are concerned about is, one, making sure that he's cleaning house, and two, that he's setting up for the next eight years, almost from the onset, because we've seen how quickly they were able to unravel things. And her response was is that he's well aware of that and a lot more savvy about the political side. He's not going into it from a businessman perspective thinking that everybody who's gonna work for him is gonna be on his side. He gets that the politicians are not to be trusted and that he's gonna probably act accordingly.

Well, I think that's important. One of the things I think is interesting in this is you have a, when you talk about the other candidates, many of the candidates that you see in the field is many of the candidates have already made their deal with a small, and so you have the, they can say what they wanna say, but they've already cut their deal. They know the limits of how far they can go in terms of doing anything. And I'll use Mike Pence as an example and not from anything recent, but back during when the government was shut down over building the wall, I was in a meeting and it was sidebar. I just was talking to him after the meeting and I said, the one thing you can't do, the only leverage you really have is that the federal employees eventually will turn on the Democrats on this because the Democrats keep refusing to do something which makes sense, but you can't indemnify them. You cannot make it so the federal employees are gonna get paid anyway.

Their fear of eventually not getting paid is the one lever point you have against the left. And the next day, not 24 hours later, Pence announced a deal that they were gonna pay with the Democrats, that they were gonna pay the federal employees anyway, losing every bit of leverage that they had, every bit of leverage. And it's just showing me that the, now, if nothing else, his political, he was gonna protect the swamp first because the federal employees who weren't working not getting paid is a big deal that the federal employees who weren't working. He's gonna protect his political, what he thinks of as his political aspirations. That's what he was protecting.

He wanted to take care of that. And some of those people who weren't gonna get paid were congressional staff and the like. And so, and maybe even some White House staff, but his first instinct was to trade away the only leverage we had in terms of winning a fight to try to get the wall funded. The only leverage we had was the Democrat constituency, the federal employee was yelling about it. And they were yelling at us now, but in a month they would be yelling at the Democrats because they weren't settling a deal. And he took away that leverage. By taking away that leverage, he ended, he really ended any reason why the Democrats had to make a reasonable deal. And that's a, and so his instincts are wrong. His instincts are all cut a deal, make a deal, and not thinking about politics and the real leverage politics, and quite honestly not caring about doing the leverage things that would have accomplished Trump's agenda. So- Well, but he has come out clearly.

Yeah, but Rick, he's come out clearly and said that he and Trump have argued, I've debated him on a whole lot of different things and I was looking forward to debating him in public now. You know, look, Mike Pence was in a manner of speaking Trump's H.W. Bush. Okay?

Why? I mean that's- He was H.W. Bush from the right and it turned out he was his H.W.

Bush from the swamp. Well, he was. He was, he was the outreach to the Christian right. You mean with Reagan? Not Reagan from H.W.

Bush. Oh, well, Pence. Yeah, but see, I said that was a lie to begin with, folks. I said that was a lie to begin with because Pence had already folded on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Indiana. And watered that down before he would sign it.

He rejected it and then he signed a watered down version that hung that couple that owned that pizza place that hung them out. Because what he said was, is that if you're a business, as if you're a business, if you're a caterer, if you're a photographer, if you're any kind of a business that does business in any restaurant, you have to serve sodomite weddings, irrespective of your belief system. That was Pence's position. That was, that is Mike Pence's position.

Folks, if that does not tell you what kind of a weasel he is, I don't, I mean, that's, look, that is the epitome of a compromise. That a business person cannot hold to their Christian beliefs and then he's gonna flaunt that he's a Christian. You're not a Christian, Mike Pence.

You're not a Christian. When I talk about that, I talk about the DC right to life structure and the like, which is the proxy for the cultural conservative movement in DC, and he was their guy, okay? Let's just be clear. He was their guy. And from a national political perspective, from a national coalition perspective, not from a reality of what the guy did, okay? From a national political perspective, he was seen by the Trump people as being, cementing those who were very skeptical about him from the cultural conservative right. Skeptical about Donald Trump because of two divorces and subsequent remarriages. Skeptical because he gave money to Hillary, gave money to the left as a developer in New York. And skeptical because he didn't, he spent a lot of time in Studio 54 on the front page of the National Enquirer.

So we kind of, that's who we knew. And so, yeah, there was reason for skepticism. And it turned out that on most of those issues, many of those issues, Donald Trump turned out to be pretty hardcore and more hardcore than Mike Pence. But it's, now gay marriage isn't one of those, by the way. But it is a- It hasn't been, yeah. But Donald Trump is now more of a known commodity.

And as a known commodity, he is a guy who stands up for what he believes. It doesn't, you know, but his belief system isn't shaped by the politics of America. It's in the DC, called, Calderon's belief system's shaped by the external political world, where you see things, you look at things from common sense, and now informed by his encounter with the DC cauldron, understanding the DC cauldrons was broken.

America is not broken. The DC cauldron is broken. And the DC cauldron knows what he's gonna do to it. And it's a, and so we're now, you know, this is a question for Donald Trump. You know, we're really in round five or round six. We're not in round 12.

We're in round five or round six of this fight. And the question is, is he gonna be able to get out of a corner with strong footing, get reelected to be president, and then knock out the DC cauldron? And I think that is his intent. That is what he's working toward. And quite honestly, Pastor Greg, it scares a lot of people that the way he'll do it, we'll be using the tactics that they've used against him, which we decry. And he'll just say, listen, the game has changed, folks.

You set the rules, and now I'm gonna play by them. And if he plays by the rules the left has played by, he will completely and utterly destroy the left with the cauldron. But he'll also finalize kind of the take down of America in that the tit for tat of people going to jail and stuff will be, you know, will then be entrenched and will be really, really difficult to go back to where you're not gonna get thrown in jail for having a different political opinion than the person you're running against.

So it's a really difficult balance. Yeah, the fine line is gonna be that it has to be, and of course, this is all gonna be predicated on appearances to a degree and how the narrative gets shaped. We're not after Hillary Clinton or John Kerry or Barack Obama or Joe Biden because their political views are different. On the political front, see, this is the issue. On the political front, let's have a debate.

Let's talk about our ideas, what we think America should look like and its foundation and have that debate and then respect each other at the end of the day for our potential differences. What we are after them for, what we are wanting them prosecuted for is illegal arms deals selling out our resources, cutting backdoor deals that damage our manufacturing or our ability to be able to produce and maintain our position as a nation, giving away our borders, destroying the dollar, okay? Those using America as a ramming rod to push a personal agenda and violating the constitutional rights of Americans. It's the illegal behavior that we want prosecuted. Well, in a narrow scope, I would just say that Joe Biden selling access and selling his influence around the world is criminal in any decade in the history of the country. And as a result, that is a criminal activity which should be prosecutable. One of the challenges with this is in order to actually do what needs to be done, you have to get rid of about four to five layers deep in much of the intelligence apparatus, much of the federal law enforcement apparatus because it's been corrupted four or five levels deep.

And those people haven't necessarily, it's kind of like Nuremberg, they've followed orders and by bad people at the top, but you can't allow them to still maintain, keep their jobs when they've been following orders to do things which are reprehensible, to spy on US citizens, to break our basic liberty, First Amendment liberties through censorship and Fourth Amendment liberties by going after and setting people up for on far criminal charges, by being instigating a riot and then prosecuting the people who followed you, we have to be able to go after those people. And that's where it's gonna get ugly because those are nameless, faceless people that are gonna have, that have to be at least terminated from employment. And it's going to be a bloodbath, a bloodbath. Rick and Sam Faddison, I talked about this last week. Let me just jump in here. Sam Faddison, I talked about this last week. And if there's anybody who understands those issues, Sam is one of the experts in that arena. And I asked him point blank, I said, would you take that on? And he said, yes, but only if number one, the President of the United States was gonna hold the line and he would bring in an Attorney General that will hold the line.

And he said, yes. And then I asked him, I said, now, because of talking about those people, those are individuals that have 15, 25 years in many instances, okay, in the game. You don't wanna cut them loose and let them become rogue agents. You're gonna have to prosecute them.

If they've committed criminal acts, prosecution absolutely 100% has to happen. And I think, I mean, you wanna talk about why there's gonna be a bloodbath and a battle and a war coming into this election and why they're after, because they know that Donald Trump would be the kind of guy that would bring in. And I don't even know who that, I don't know who exactly, maybe Mark, is it Whitfield? You and I know him. Doggone, I can't remember his name right now. He's a bald headed guy. He was one of Trump's, I'm sorry. He was one that, he was in there for a minute. He was a temporary, he temporarily filled the position. I didn't be the Jeff Sessions Chief of Staff. And then he got elevated to acting when Jeff Sessions left. What was his name again? I'm blanking on it. I'm, yeah.

But he would be a guy. Here's what they have to do. I'm just gonna tell you point blank what they have to do. They have to, you're not gonna be able to do anything from inside the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice is completely corrupt. When Jeff Sessions attempted to do stuff, I'm not just talking about the thing he, he tried to do a lot of things, not just the thing he was specifically recused himself from.

He tried to do a lot of things that he was blocked by the status quo, by the people who were two layers below him, some cases one layer below him. So you have to have your appointments from not just the Attorney General, but you have to have the next layer and the third layer of appointments down the fourth layer of appointments, all solid. Then you have to bring in an outside counsel to do the internal review of the Department of Justice and throw out all the bad actors from the outside doing.

Then that's the only way that you're gonna be able to get that done. And the problem is people who do the prosecuting for all the crimes and all the other places like it's CIA, FBI, people do that prosecuting of people who've done bad things are all at the fifth to seventh tier in the DOJ. And they're all culpable in it.

So you've got a- Matthew Whitaker. Prosecutors. So you almost have to bring in outside prosecutors for each of these agencies working through the Inspector General's office to clean out the agencies and the bad actors.

And it is, and that will be a civil service war beyond wars. And there's some ways to do this that are just practical civil service law manipulations. And what I'm suggesting is you do a simple thing. You reduce in force each one of these agencies by 20%. You say, we're cutting 20% and you just pick which 20% you want, just boom. And then three to four months later, you say, oh, we cut too much, we're bringing back 10% and you hire your own people in for the 10%. And then you've got the people who prosecute the crimes. Okay, then you've got the people who will actually do the law, who will actually carry out the policy beyond the drain, the swamp policy, will carry out the policy as an outward facing policy that actually what needs to be done to undo all the garbage that's being done in the last four years and to put America back on the right path.

But you have to get rid of the institutional left out of this. And the only way to do it is to fire them using reduction in force, which Congress has to agree to, and then bring back 10%, not bring back, rehire 10% or 50% of those people to then hire in people based on merit and change the course of government. You still have 60% of the workforce Democrat, but you'd at least have some of the civil service workforce willing to do the job of the next administration. Because right now, the headline in the Washington Post in January 20th, 2017 said it all. They had a big headline that said resist and was an article asking every civil servant to call them up with every time the Trump people tried to do something so they could leave the charge to resist against any change. That's what we faced in 2017. That's what we would face in 2025. And Rick, what hypocrisy for them to have put that as a headline in the newspaper in 2017. Imagine if Real America's Voice or Newsmax or Epic Times or the Washington Times had put a headline like that in 2020 when Joe Biden got placed in office. I mean- January 20th of 2021, if there had been a big headline in Daily Caller say or Breitbart said resist and encouraged all the federal employees to not do their job and to actively block any actions by the Trump, by the Biden administration.

That would have been, you know, that would have been J6'd in a big ol' hurry. Oh, well, they would have prosecuted, they'd still be prosecuting him, Rick. They would still be prosecuting him right now. They would still be prosecuting them right now. And firing them.

And I'll tell you, I mean, I know this, but I'm not going to tell you what I'm talking about right now. And firing them, and I'll tell you, I mean, I know this because I had friends that were Trump appointees that went to work in those agencies. And I'm not even talking about EPA or FCC or DEA. I'm talking about State Department and, you know, and other actual government, you know, DOD and other government apparatuses, individuals that were Trump appointees put into those positions who sat in meetings with department heads that specifically said, do not, under any circumstances, follow any orders or instructions that are coming from the White House. And then when they found out they were Trump appointees, they threw them out.

Yeah. They tried, in some instances, just because of that, they tried to charge them with something or accuse them of something or what have you. And the- Many of them did drive out. Many of them, they did drive out of the administration. Well, and the liaison in the White House, by the way, the Trump White House liaison was a turncoat because that individual helped the agencies to get rid of the Trump appointees. I know. No, I know. Listen, there were, in the Trump administration, there were far more personnel mistakes than there were personnel- Victories?

Not. Where they actually got it right. They never got Defense Department right.

The whole national security apparatus, they didn't get it right until the very, maybe at the very end, I guess at the very end, they finally got Radcliffe as DNI. But once they blew up, once Mike Pence played a role in- Absolutely. Flynn, Mike Flynn, once that happened, the one person on Trump's side who actually knew how it worked was gone. And President Trump made a mistake in that he really respected people who had a lot of stars on their shoulders. And he got there and he was, and so as a result, he relied on generals who quite honestly didn't agree with him on anything. And they wanted the status quo. Well, no, they were literally, they were part of breaking down. Yeah, but Rick, they were part of breaking down the American military under Obama. I know, I know, I know that. And they carried that over into the- President Trump initially did not know that.

And he will know that in 2025. And as an example of that, and Sam Faddis brought this out, was Gina Haspel. Haspel was Brennan's, you know, protege. And so getting rid of Brennan meant nothing. Brennan was Haspel who was stupid. And Haspel was the British element, the American British element that had helped to create the Steele dossier. Yep.

No, absolutely. It's a, well, and you look at, you know, Ukraine. President Trump never had an ambassador that he appointed to Ukraine. People don't realize that, but the ambassador to Ukraine was a Foreign Service person that he inherited who was appointed by Barack Obama in 2020, confirmed in 2020, and carried over.

And- 2012. So where's all the problem? Where all the problems come from? They came from Ukraine. What did Biden do? He made sure that somebody was in the Ukrainian embassy as the ambassador who would cover up what was going on.

Sure. And it was a, and so what does Trump end up getting impeached over? Asking questions about Ukraine. Where are we at war now? Ukraine.

I know we disagree with it. We're not gonna talk about Ukraine, but it's just a, there's this place on the map that most people had little to no concern with a decade ago, has become the fulcrum for the entire freaking world. And it's a combination of things that have made that, maybe it always was and we just weren't aware of it, but Joe Biden clearly from what we know now in his business dealings, had a financial interest in the outcome of what was going on in Ukraine.

We know that. Now that financial interest might've aligned with US interests by the way. I'm not gonna, I don't know that that's true or not true, but he had a financial interest in the outcomes. His last week in office, last week in office, he made a trip to Ukraine. Why in the world, if you're the vice president of the United States, you only have one week left in office, you're supposed to be cleaning out your desk is what you're supposed to be doing. You make a trip, a trip to Ukraine of all the places in the world, you make a trip to Ukraine, you think that was a cleanup operation? He was cleaning up his desk all right.

He's cleaning up the mess that he had to clean up that he didn't want anybody else to find. But you can't ask that question since Trump never had an ambassador to Ukraine, he never could even look at anybody who looked at the files for him. His State Department couldn't find out what was going on in Ukraine. Well, he didn't have a State Department.

Let's be honest about that. Rick, President Trump didn't have a State Department. Now, you can say that Mike Pompeo came in and I guess people are kind of up in the air with regards to that. I was told that Pompeo was on Trump's side.

He wasn't a bad actor. But at that point, Pompeo probably had three people in the State Department that were with him. And that was it. And that was it.

I mean, yeah. That's the reason why when I go back to this, it comes down to personnel policy, civil service policy. You have to blow out 20% of the people who are there and you have to blow out a lot of the top people. And so beyond the RIF, one of the best ways to do that, there's about 7,500 career civil servants who are at the top level called Senior Executive Services.

This gets a little technical, but it's actually the only way you can deal with it. Most of those people have been there a long time. They're supposed to be the people who are interchangeable throughout government who know how to pull the levers of power.

That's who they're supposed to be. The fact is a vast majority of them are left-wing activists and are status quo left-wing activists. And you can't, as a political person, you spend half your time fighting with them to get something done. So what do you have to do? The single best thing you can do is offer them, because you can't fire them, okay? You have to offer them a very, you have to offer them a very, very lucrative retirement package.

Two years extra on retirement, so they retire because most of them are to end a career. Because the alternative then is you can move, you can force them to transfer. Say, we really need your services in Nome, Alaska. And in six months, you're moving to Nome, Alaska. And if you don't accept the assignment, then you can fire them. So you have the capacity to move people out of the way, if you want to. But most people choosing moving to Nome, Alaska and getting fired are two years of extra benefits to get out of the way.

You buy them off. And then you hire people to replace them who are gonna do their job. I don't care if they're conservative or liberal, I want them to do their job. And just, because that's all you really need for these people to do is their job. At which point, you're able to then drain the incentive, the internal incentive to keep the status quo swamp going goes away, and you're at least able to get a lot of the most putrid elements to swamp out.

You're never gonna get it all the way. This is DC. But you're gonna get the most putrid elements out and allow for the system to work. Because right now, the drain's clogged. The system doesn't work. It only works for people who are inside the system. It doesn't work for America.

It doesn't work for the world. And we have a responsibility to fix that. And so we're talking a little bit of personnel policy here, but I think the only way we actually do it is by using the personnel policy that's set up against them and incentivize people to leave who want to leave. And if they won't leave, then fire them. But the first thing to do is to clean the top out, is to give them a massive incentive to leave, and then hire in a crew who are gonna go in and do the job. And that's what we need to, that's the first thing they have to do. It has to be top of the priority list.

And that's a massive, by the way, I mean, that's a massive undertaking, massive undertaking. Because one of the things Bart Markowitz and I talked about was, and he was a long time State Department. He was like, even with Clinton, everybody says, oh, Clinton had these terrible policies. Well, Clinton's policies actually didn't begin to get implemented until his fifth year. Yeah, the first four years that Clinton was there, he was all talk about what he wanted to do.

But by the time it trickles down through those 7,500 people through all the systems and levers and everything else that's there, it literally, you don't get anything going until your second term. And so like- Well, I'm gonna tell, I'm gonna say something did change during Obama's first part of his second term. They changed the hiring process for careers. And in changing the hiring process, it was a very, very difficult process to get in. And Obama was very frustrated because he wasn't getting a lot of his political people into career jobs. And he was very frustrated by that. And so Obama changed the hiring process. And he made it so he could get hired off a resume rather than through a pretty difficult, arduous- And then he, didn't he also change, and then once he got him in, he changed the status of the individuals that were there. And that was one of the battles that Trump and his team fought initially.

I don't know where that ever ended up. I never really heard if they were able to reverse that back or not. I'm gonna assume they were not able to reverse it back, but he got people buried in. Rather than trying to reverse stuff like that, we had to use it. We need to use the things that were put into place. To lock in, to lock in- Lock our people in. To lock in is dumb. And the net result of what happened is why you could have the, why you're supposed to have a resist headline in 2017. Because who Obama put in place were all the Democrat Socialists, all the people who were the hardcore, hard left with an agenda to take down this country.

Major, major. He put in the resisters. He put in the attorneys in the Department of Justice. 1500 of them. A bunch of attorneys who were representing the terrorists in 9-11. Yep. Those are the people who were brought in to be in our Justice Department. And BLM and Antifa. 1500. I'm now prosecuting the J-6 people.

Yep. And the same kind of people are the ones who were the judges on the DC's federal court. Why is the DC Circuit Court so bad? Because Obama did a deal with Mitch McConnell to get three more justices, Democrat justices, his appointees.

It was a split court. He got three more justices. He put the most radical justices you can imagine on there. And in exchange for it, Mitch McConnell got somebody confirmed to the National Labor Relations Board who he wanted. So the big business guys got their NLRB person and the rest of the country got a DC Circuit Court that's a disaster.

Yep. And that's because Obama packed the court. He added three seats to the court.

And by adding three seats to the court, he put three new judges on, including the one who is sitting there right now doing the special prosecutor case against Trump. Yep. So that was what happened. That is the reality is the Republicans played small ball and Obama played big ball.

He played for the long term. And Republicans always sit there and play for the short term for a 1% tax break for somebody who they like, as opposed to trying to fix the whole darn system and make it so it's actually fair and equitable for everybody. But that's a different problem. That's the swamp problem on the right. The swamp problem on the left is they control the institutions and we have to take control of them for the American people. Well, and so, folks, if you have stuck with us, and I know some of this may seem dry, but what you've just been given is the behind the scenes understanding of what's really happening. What is the swamp? What is the deep state? How does it maintain its power?

How does it maintain its control? And I'll just say this in closing out our time. Everybody talks about term limits. Folks, that's great.

Have that conversation because it's great public fodder. But the reality is is that if you don't change out the 7,500 people that Rick just talked about, if you don't start removing the permanent staff people that the congressional members and the senators inherit when they get to Washington DC, if you don't get rid of those people, nothing is going to change. You can change names on the door all day long. You can put in term limits. Every two years, you can put somebody new in that seat.

But guess what? The paperwork they're gonna get is gonna be the paperwork provided to them by these permanent people. The laws that are gonna be put in place, the policies are gonna continue. Everything that's gonna continue to happen will continue to happen, predicated on the machine that Rick has described over the course of the last 20 minutes. That's the bottom line.

And unless we change the machine, unless we remove those parts, and we put a different group in place, people that will actually hold to their oaths and just simply do the job that they are there to do and allow, again, the people, we the people to control policy, we the people to control what's presented for a vote and how we want our country to be run, we're stuck and nothing is going to change. That's the bottom line. That is the bottom line, and thanks for clarifying that and synopsizing it so well, Pastor Rick. But one thing that's true, remains true, God's in control, and he's sovereign. And the systems that are put in place for evil, those who mean to do evil, God turns it to good. So we can take solace in the fact that if we try to stay true to what we're supposed to do, what the mission field we've been given, the mission we've been put on, the challenges that have been put in front of us, it's ultimately, that's all we can do, but it's a lot more than a slogan. I think what President Trump, bring it back full circle, President Trump spent four years learning that draining the swamp was a lot more than a slogan. The slogan itself caused beasts unbeknownst to mankind to come forward and attempt to slay him politically, and now from a freedom perspective. And it's a dangerous game. No doubt.

And we never knew that until Donald Trump, how dangerous a game it is to try to do simple things like bring control of the people back to the people of their own government. All right, we got to jump. I'll be back right after this.

Bye-bye. At the end of the day, when I stand before my God, I do not want him to ask me, what did you do with the world that I sent my son to die for and redeem? How did you fight the good fight to share the good news and keep evil in check?

How did you shine your light and be a beacon of truth in the darkness? Did you shrink back in fear when they demanded you change my message? Did you call evil good and good evil? Did you forsake my love for that of another, lying with the adulterer and setting up a new idol in your life? Have you defiled yourself through compromise and tolerance of that which I call an abomination? Have you innocent blood on your hands for the children murdered on your watch and the young ones perverted in their way by evil men, seeking their own comfort and reviling me?

No, at the end of the day, I want him to simply say the evidence is in. Well done, thou good and faithful servant. I love my God and I love his creation. And I will go to my grave telling the world that evil is evil and only God is good and Jesus came to save the world. That no matter the evil in the world, I will never give up and in spite of the hate, I will love in truth. God bless you all and may love remove the veil so you all might enter into his rest.