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And now, Chosen Generation, where no topic is off limits and everything is filtered through biblical glasses. And now, here's your host, Pastor Greg. Here we go, coming in. Hey, welcome aboard, folks. Great to have you with me.

Thanks so much for being here. Hour number three. No, two. I don't know.

Somewhere in there. It's Friday, okay? I'm just going to tell you it's Friday. And great to have you with me.

Thanks so much for being here. And I'm really excited to have my next guest with me. They have put out some really great documentaries. I got a chance to watch several of them, Good Boy Productions, and you can watch their YouTube channel. They put their material out there for you to be able to see. And I was really taken in by this.

They also did a great piece of work on Kanye and kind of understanding some of the things that he's trying to communicate and trying to get people to understand. And so, I'm very excited to welcome to the program the CEO and co-founder of Good Boy Productions, Rob Montz. Rob, welcome. Good to have you. Thanks for being with me today. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me.

Just a minor correction. Good Kid Productions. Good Kid.

Sorry. Good Boy Productions is actually not bad. It's not a bad name for a company, but we're incorporating Good Kid Productions, so everything we're going to talk about people can see for free on our YouTube channel, which is just Good Kid Productions. They can also go to Excellent. Excellent. And we'll get that information up so that they have the opportunity to be able to know exactly where to go to get that information. So, let's talk about Kenosha.

It's interesting. I actually, Kyle Rittenhouse was up near Dallas and I have some friends on Facebook that took pictures with him and he was, you know, one of the keynote speakers. In fact, the venue that he was going to be at originally, Defiance Press was doing the event and the original venue said, no, we're not going to have him. He's too controversial and we're inclusive and so we're not going to allow.

So they had to actually change the venue location. But you touch on a topic that I think is so critically important for people to understand because it impacts all of society. And you show how it impacted everyone in Kenosha associated with the events that now have catapulted Kyle Rittenhouse into, in some squares, a household name.

Talk about that a little bit, if you would, please. Yeah, I mean, people need a refresher because given the nature of modern media consumption, no matter how big a news story is, it basically disappears within 36 to 48 hours. So Kenosha, Wisconsin, which is otherwise like kind of just perfectly pleasant bedroom community in the Midwest, birthed not one but two mega viral news stories in the summer of 2020.

Now, a lot of people probably remember the name Kyle Rittenhouse, but why was Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha? Well, because 72 hours previous, a black man by the name of Jacob Blake had been shot by a white police officer and someone across the street had captured the shooting on a smartphone and uploaded it to Facebook. And this was maybe two or three weeks after George Floyd. And so the country and well, corporate, the corporate media establishment was primed to try to find new George Floyd's.

And this video, this seven, seven, eight second snippet rocketed around the Internet. And then the narrative that was quickly and uniformly erected around it is that this is another instance of vicious institutional racism in white supremacist America. That the virality of the Jacob Blake video is what spurns somewhere between five to six thousand outside activists slash violent rioters to descend on Kenosha. There's multiple rights, multiple nights of rioting, which include the complete incineration of large swaths of Kenosha's historically black business district. Again, not clear to me how that advances the cause of anti-racism. And then on the third night of riots, Rittenhouse comes from maybe 30 minutes away, picks up at AR-15 in a medic bag on his way to Kenosha in order to guard a used car lot there.

And it's interesting you point out that he ends up, he starts out at one used car lot and ultimately ends up at a different used car lot, which is a big part of the problem that ends up becoming, yeah, the catalyst. We talk about what we do and what the documentary does is it tries to show that in the rush to try to package what happened in Kenosha into sort of pre-made partisan narratives. I mean, obviously, mostly the most epically practiced by the corporate media establishment, which is thoroughly drenched and compromised ideologically, right? It's far left progressivism. But I think also there is blame to go around for the way that the right wing press jammed the Kyle Rittenhouse story into anything other than a story of Kyle Rittenhouse being a beautiful Second Amendment martyr means you're a traitor to our tribe.

Right. And what we try to show is that there actually is a unnoticed but extraordinarily sociologically important shared trauma between Jacob Blake, Kyle Rittenhouse and the two men that Kyle Rittenhouse killed. I mean, I mean, that's extraordinarily important for the survival of America as a democratic self-experiment that largely goes unnoticed that nobody talks about because it doesn't fit any neat political agenda.

And that got completely missed by like, it's amazing that Kenosha, Wisconsin could have been the singular focus of billions of dollars of media companies, and they missed what actually mattered. So let me interject to ask that question of you. What is it that caused, I mean, what you did, in my most humble opinion, is actual journalism.

But I mean, truly, it was actual journalism. But what is it that made you ask that question? What jumped out at you that said, wait a minute, there's something else here that isn't being discussed that I'd like to explore? I initially the project was just going to be about Jacob Blake, because I am deeply frustrated by the corrosive propagandistic narratives that so quickly get erected and go unquestioned when it comes to police shootings of unarmed black men. Which is what made you hone in to a degree on what Kanye West was trying to say, as I do here, by the way, I have Project 21 Black Leadership Network, Ward-Connerly.

I mean, I have a variety of individuals, Vince Ellison has been on my program, a lot of guys that come on my show, black conservatives who are equally frustrated by the fact that, okay, wait a minute, BLM was a farce. And it was evil. And it was a very successful entrepreneurial venture. I mean, Patrice Calores lives in a $6 million mansion in Topanga Canyon, like it turned out well for her. She's trying to be a cooking show influencer. So it's going well for her. She got that Netflix deal, get that white guilt money.

But in terms of like the black boys and girls of Kenosha, Wisconsin, I don't see material improvements in their life prospects. So, and we'll get to, I'm happy to talk about Kanye. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no. Right. Yeah. Well, let's get to, I'm happy to discuss Kanye at length. So I... But let's get to the Kenosha thing.

I was just saying that there is a jump off point there in my mind that makes sense in light of what you said. That's all. That's it. Shelby Steele, who's a kind of an underrated dissident kind of conservative black thinker, and his son did a detailed documentary investigation into the shooting of Michael Brown. Obviously from a couple years ago, Ferguson, prompt hands up, don't shoot. And it's kind of the genesis of BLM. It's really kind of where it started becoming a national force. And they very carefully demonstrate that essentially every aspect of the Michael Brown story sold to you by CNN and ABC and Good Morning America was a lie.

Now, least of which hands up, don't shoot never happened. Right? So I knew Jacob Blake, I think was a supple material for a very similar deconstruction. And that's what it was going to be. And what the first half of this documentary is that.

So if people want to see in real time how you can be actively lied to about every single important fact of the matter about a particular shooting and then watching us kind of carefully dissected, grounded in part on an interview we did with former Attorney General Bill Barr, and just showing every single, like literally every single part from start to finish of the shooting was actively misrepresented by the corporate media establishment. But I went into it and then I just started. I mean, I couldn't, it's very difficult to not notice that Jacob Blake, Kyle Rittenhouse and the two people Kyle Rittenhouse killed didn't have dads. Yeah. It's like kept noticing it. Right. And then and then I know, I mean, I'm a I'm familiar with the sociological literature related to the fact that one in three American boys today grows up without a father, which is the highest rate in the world.

We're tied with the UK, highest rate in the world. There's a lot. I mean, there's both the kind of neurological scientific investigations into male brain development and what it looks like with and without paternal order. And then there's all the stats related to the fact that if you take a dad out of the house, it like doubles the chance that a boy is going to end up in jail, drop out of high school, be long term unemployed. Like it's, there's, there's some very noticeable correlations between lack of a father and long term life prospects. And being a dad yourself, by the way, let's not let's not discount the fact that you also are a father of small children. And and you certainly that that certainly I know for me, you know, I'm a dad of five, I'm much I'm older. But the point is, is that once you once you get into that barrier, and you really get what it is, and the significance of your role in your kids lives, it it your it changes your it should change your world.

It changed my world. I think is that and you know, if we want to give Freudian if when you get on the couch, my dad was my own father was an extraordinarily professionally successful guy. He was a surgeon at Hopkins, John Hopkins, very sexual guy, pulled himself from like, kind of a middling existence in Bismarck, North Dakota to be a high flying surgeon on the coasts.

Very charismatic, but kind of like a Steve Jobsian type figure, right? So very highs and lows hyper charismatic, you wanted to earn his affection. But he also had some anger management issues. And my parents divorced when I was five. Okay, and I had, I, as I grew up, particularly in my teenage years, as I became more of like, my own separate entity, the my relationship with my dad sort of healed, and I certainly began to really heavily rely upon him for mentorship and guidance. And then he dropped dead when I was 19. So it's, you know, and it's funny that, obviously, at the time, it was a tragedy of immense importance to me, it was like a wound, it's like the fabric of your universe getting ripped. Right. But it's funny, the long tail sadness of an event like that, that there's new flavors of sadness to be had of it as I advanced through different stages of life. Sure. And once you have kids, it basically gives you a new flavor of sadness that grandpa's not there.

He can't see you. Yeah. And there was a sadness in my 20s too, because my dad had been very good about injecting a sense of ambition into me and a sense of agency, a sense of kind of stoic self management. In turn, well, you know, he was very good at saying, you can do anything you want. But he died before he gave me the other part of the package, which is the day to day unsexy grind required to actually achieve ambitions. So in my 20s, I was the worst possible combination of entitled and economically useless. And it took a lot of pain.

It took a lot of pain to burn that off for me. I'm like personally, psychologically primed for this, you know. Yeah. And but there's also I mean, there's a guy Richard Reeves, who's a policy scholar at the Brookings Institute, which again, is not like a right wing outlet, has a book that came out a couple months ago that's made the rounds. That's called a boys and men, which is just about the this extremely serious issue of male and female relationships. And it's about the level of mass male lagging on all sorts of metrics. So like, just how American boys and men are having really, really serious issues. Well, wouldn't you wouldn't you agree, Rob, that to a degree, it has been, we've been socially engineered in that way.

I mean, you look at the black community, the black community was overwhelmed by a welfare system put in place by Lyndon Johnson and Democrats that was designed to destroy the family and cut off the head. But then on the other side, on the non minority side, you had feminism. And so again, feminism was was done to accomplish the same thing, which was the emasculation. So in both instances, men, the male image was, was perverted, was shifted, was changed, and then was eviscerated, so that you eliminated that.

So now you've got these young men growing up that don't have any idea what manhood really looks like. I think, I mean, I'm not as quick to criticize feminism, although obviously, there's been some problematic consequences. I think also feminism, pushing women into the workforce and making them economically independent meant that they didn't need men as much.

That's also part of it. But you have to, I mean, there's also changes in the global economy have actually benefited women in a lot of ways that, like, a lot of the jobs that an uneducated man, I mean, I'm sure you know this, but have done in order to support a family and generate a sense of purpose and meaning and being needed in his life, a lot of that stuff has disappeared in this country. And it just turns out women naturally have better, are much better at those kind of softer skills that are required by the jobs that are abundantly available, given the nature of the 2023 global economy.

And I think also, there's a lot of evidence to back this up. Women, there's ways in which men and boys, particularly in their teenage years, are actually much more vulnerable to familial disruption than women are, which maybe probably catches a lot of people by surprise, because this idea of like, kind of, men and boys is be much harder and not as soft as men and boys. But there's a lot of mounting psychological evidence that indicates that boys, actually, if you rip a father out of the home, are much more likely to be kind of damaged in their foundations than girls are.

Girls are actually less fragile and are more rugged and more able to sort of carve out an independent life, even if that happens to the family. And I think, yeah, I mean, divorce culture, kind of like, yeah, the dissolution of these kind of jobs of brawn that most, that kind of an uneducated male could take. And then on the other side, the advent of these extremely powerful tools that men and boys are able to take, and then on the other side, the advent of these extremely powerful tools that men can fall into to permanently numb themselves when they suck, when they first suffer the pains of trying to make it as a man in the world, right? That if you want to nowadays, if you want to spend every waking moment of your life, vaping, popping opiates, and toggling between Call of Duty and pornography, you can. Yeah, yeah. The life on your phone. Yep.

And I say this is someone who is constantly battling screams. It's not easy. I'm like, I'm not a Zen master.

I mean, more than like, yeah, trust me, like I wait as long as possible to check my smartphone and I still check my, I was on dad duty this morning and definitely refreshed Twitter once, right? Like I still suck at it too. It's not easy.

It's super hard. And I think men can will, unless there is outside external structures, pushing them to mature, if it's a woman. Well, it's, but it's, but see, this is what I'm saying that that mentorship, because you understand that the, I believe that the studies also indicate the mom has a level of influence with her son to a certain age. And then at that point, it's the father's responsibility to begin to mold that young man into a man. There are certain tendencies like what you're talking about that men have that are inherently in their gene pool. That a, that a mature man, a father needs to kind of knock out, kind of say, Hey, no, we don't do that. That's not manhood. That's not what we do. Here's the proper track.

Here's how you stay on. And it's really a form of discipleship in a manner of speaking. I've said for years, you know, with my kids, it was like, look, if you don't have them kind of squared away by the time they're 13, you got a problem. Because from 13 to 17, you're building a relationship with them that you're going to have for the rest of their lives, period.

That's when that happens between 13 and 17. By the time they're 17, 18 years of age, they've established who's going to really have an influence in their life. I thank God that that that somehow I stumbled across that concept and sort of kind of figured that out, and that my kids will come to me and my wife with major life decisions. And we don't, what we also learned is, is you don't tell your kids what to do at that point. They're adults, and you learn how to treat them as an adult, almost as a peer. You begin to give them that kind of respect, and then they will give it back, and then they will listen to you and say, hey, I've got these courses, these three paths, two paths, what have you. How do I, what would be your thought?

How would you approach this, Dad? Yeah, and I think for boys, particularly in adolescence, this kind of ancient primal programming kicks in. They get flooded with testosterone, and then they, you know, they're filled with that heroic spirit to go conquer and to take grand risks and to have adventures. And that energy, if properly tutored and directed, is extraordinarily powerful, right?

That like, that fills the pyramids, right? But if it's not appropriately tutored, and it's not appropriately directed, there is no, it's not cut with some wisdom from a father, it can, it can, it can fuel a boy's life to spiral out of control. Which I think is the great, which, because we're going to run, we're going to run up against the clock here, but, but I think which is a great tease into what you have done with the Kenosha documentary is you have shown how the absence of that father influence truly has had monumental effects on an entire community. And, and the damage that it has done to, to a lot of lives. And let's talk about Rittenhouse.

I mean, maybe this is going to trigger the audience below. Let's go. Let's go. They can watch it themselves. Yeah, no, we got about three minutes.

Get to it. I mean, I think a lot of what Rittenhouse did was admirable. Obviously, this was like an atrocious power vacuum in Kenosha. We now know that the governor, that the governor reputedly rebuked federal offers, offers for additional National Guard to be flooded in Kenosha because there's 6000 violent rioters descending onto the city, right? I think what, like, it was a shame that Rittenhouse was needed at all. Obviously something admirable about what he was doing, but, but what, like, what do you think people like, A, if you're a dad, would you let your 17 year old strap on an AR-15 and wander into a war zone? Probably not.

And why wouldn't you do it? It doesn't matter how good and idealistic and well-trained your 17 year old is. He's still a 17 year old. And as you hinted at before, if you actually go through the particular micro timeline of what happened that night in Kenosha, everything's going okay for Rittenhouse when he has a minder with him.

A guy who later said, I kept close tabs on him because he was young and inexperienced and immature. And the second that Rittenhouse gets detached from his minder, he starts making bad choices that inevitably end with two people getting killed, right? And it's exactly what you would expect would happen if a 17 year old is in a situation he's not equipped for. Not because he's a bad guy, but because he's a teenager, right? Absolutely. Well, right.

And if you were, if you were to say, okay, I, you know, you would be a dad that would be with your son and you might have some weapon with you maybe, but you'd make sure that, you know, if your kid, you wouldn't put your kid in that situation without being able to know that you could control the environment to some way, shape or form. So that neither of you were put into that kind of a situation that unfortunately Kyle Rittenhouse ended up in. And, you know, irrespective of, of, you know, these other things that have tumbled out of this, Kyle, as he gets older, as he grows through this, still has to go to sleep at night, still has to deal with what happened, still has to address in his own mind, in his own self, this whole situation. And it will never go away.

It will never go away. Exactly. I mean, he doesn't get to have a normal life.

He gets to be like a CPAC star, but it means he doesn't get to have a normal life. And at some point, he's, he's, he, you know, there's still, there's going to be working through all of that. We've run out of time this time. I really hope you'll come back. I guess I hope that you've enjoyed this conversation as much as I have. Right. Well, thank you so much.

We didn't even talk about Kanye. I know. I watch it themselves. Yep. No, no, no. Yep. Absolutely. They can go to Kanye West Wing 2020.

They can go to Kanye West Wing, sorry, if they want to watch the Kanye doc. Okay. I'd be happy to talk about that with you on another occasion. We will definitely do that. And for those of you that are that are seeing us and watching us, you can see right below,

And if you if you click on the originals page, you'll see all the little teasers that are there and the videos and so on. And so you can get an idea of a lot of the stuff that they've done. But I highly recommend that you take some time to go through this. And we will absolutely have Rob back on the program to talk about these things in the very near future. I really appreciate you being with me. Thanks so much for taking your time today. Thank you so much for having me. Absolutely.

All right. We're going to take a break when we come back. Dr. David Wormser is with me. It is Holocaust Memorial Day.

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Yeah, there we go, part four of today. I hope you enjoyed the conversation with Rob Motz. I really enjoyed talking with him about fatherlessness and just that whole thing.

And I know we kind of probably got a bit off course from the original conversation, but it really wasn't that far off course because it's really what he delves into and deals with, especially in The Broken Boys of Kenosha and that particular documentary. But it also addresses the Kanye West piece that I was alluding to when I was talking about that as well. And Kanye's comments in particular about what's happening in the black neighborhoods. If it's white on black, everybody knows about it. But if it's black on black, nobody seems to care.

Why is that? And he says that and he makes that point. And it's a very, very valid point that he makes. So at any rate, there you go. Alright, well hey, I'm very, very pleased to welcome to the program and I'm saddened, as I think we all should be, and impacted by what it is that brings Dr. David Williams.

And I'm very, very pleased to welcome to the program today. And that is that today is Holocaust Memorial Day. It is a day that has been set aside wherein we would remember those whose lives were taken and the hate that was behind this. Not only were Jews targeted, Christians were targeted. There's a broad scope in this in what Hitler and Nazi Germany was doing in their quote, unquote, purification process.

There were a lot of folks, there were millions, six million Jewish people, but there were also another, I think, David, if I'm not mistaken, nearly as many Christians that were murdered as well, and some others thrown in that were all a part of this horrific genocide that is the Holocaust. I've lost you. I don't have your sound. I don't have your sound. No, not yet.

We're having a little bit. There we go. Okay, got you now. Yes, sir.

Yep, I got you now. Well, yeah, obviously, you know, it's a horrible event. I mean, the numbers are unbelievable. Yes, there were also a lot of non-Jews that were killed there. I think it's important to remember that at the time there were about 18 million Jews in the world, 18 million.

And in Europe, a much smaller number. So when six million were killed, you're talking about one of every two or more Jews that were killed in Europe. So entire communities were exterminated.

Yes, sir. And the Jewish communities never really recovered from it. There are still now only between 12 and 14 million Jews, depending on how you count it. So the dent made, which is one third of all the Jewish people being exterminated, has never really been recovered. And the second thing is it made, of course, the question of Israel very difficult. The idea that Israel was created because of the Holocaust is not true. All the foundations and legal structures and so forth were in place before the Holocaust.

They really were legally committed. The international community, the British, et cetera, were legally committed to establishing the state of Israel already by 1920, 1921. So Israel was going to happen. The problem was that the large Jewish community that was supposed to come to Israel was gassed and killed and burned up. So that is in part one of the sources of the Arab-Israeli conflict is that the huge demographic inflow that Israel was to represent never happened because they died. So there's a lot of consequences to this. I think there's a lot of pathologies that affect the Jewish people because of all this.

I don't think you can overestimate it. But I also think there's a very important lesson for everybody in this, which is politics that delegitimize and dehumanize segments of the population because they don't like them. For example, which is really the basis of all, by the way, leftist politics, which is that your rights are defined through the community, not through God. Remember the Declaration of Independence, that we are endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights. Our creator gave us those rights. No human can take those rights away from us.

Nor were they given to us by other humans. But there's another form of politics, which is rights are derived from your belonging to a community. The French Revolution was that. A lot of communist leftist ideology is that. That you derive your rights through the community. And if you're on the wrong side of that ideology, you have no rights.

And that's the quick road. Ultimately, that's the road to the Gulag in Russia and to the exterminations of the Nazis. It's that sort of politics. So the big warning sign, or the big lesson of the Holocaust, most of which, or a lot of which, is that there's a lot of people who have no rights. But there is this huge warning bell that should come out of it for all communities in the world.

Sorry, I muted myself for a second and and you know, and and and it's in and David, I so appreciate that. And and when I said what I was sharing that immediately gets lumped into an anti semitic you know, I'm I'm I'm very disbillionated. that immediately gets lumped into an antisemitic, you know, I'm being antisemitic if I touch on the Holocaust and suggest that it impacted anyone other than Jews in some circles. And my point to that only is exactly what you just said, which is, is that it impacted there that Nazi mindset was we're gonna exterminate anything and everyone that is in opposition to our ideology and to our end goals and to what we believe is supposed to be alive.

And anything and everything else that doesn't bow down and come into alignment with that is going to be eliminated and exterminated. And no question that there was a priority placed on the destruction of the Jewish people. But when you talk about a fascism or you talk about, I mean, the communists were already doing this. That's the other piece that's not this rarely discussed in this history is the fact that in Russia, they had already, the disinformation, the Zionist disinformation pamphlets and campaign that was used by Hitler had been being used by communist Russia, by Stalin and Lenin and before him.

Oh, absolutely. The foundation of a lot of modern antisemitism is based on this book called The Protocols of the Elders of Zionism, which purports to have the secret protocols of the secret meetings that this group of senior Jewish Zionist leaders have and it's sort of uncoating the secret. It was a Russian document, a forged, invented Russian document that then was heavily used and continues to be used by the KGB, by the successor of the KGB and so forth.

And it's a fake, completely invented. Or at least I've never been invited to one of those books. I really haven't. I'm sorry. I don't mean, I, it, yes. I mean, it's, I laugh.

It's really not funny because unfortunately, there are both sides of the political spectrum per se have, you know, have used that or globbed onto it or have believed the disinformation campaign associated with it. We're gonna take a quick break. When we come back, we'll have more with Dr. David Wormser. Right after this, we're addressing again, today is Holocaust Memorial Day and it is truly a day for us to reflect upon the events that led up to the Holocaust and to remind people what that means because it is something that, you know, when you bring it up in a history class in a lot of public schools, kids look at you and there's just a blank stare and that is terrible.

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I'm stuck on this a little bit. I just, I can hear the echo chambers now. Oh my gosh, Pastor Greg, that anti-Semitism, because he made the comment that there just might've been somebody else that was murdered in the Holocaust, caught up and killed. But it is something that we really should be paying attention to because of the wind, the way the wind is blowing right now, there's genocide. I'm part of Save the Persecuted Christians. 360 million plus are on the list of persecuted right this minute.

There are 360 million people around the world right this minute. And I can just tell you from my experience in dealing with our ministry in India, that we serve widows. They're not widows because their husbands died of old age. They're young women with young children whose husbands were killed because they're Christian. Yeah, I mean, look, one has to be very careful of the anti-Semitism label because a lot of those who throw it around are those who, for whom Judaism means the least. I've found progressives tend to use the accusation of fascism and Nazism and anti-Semitism very quickly, even though they themselves are, their Judaism is really reduced now to a progressive ideology rather than anything else.

Anything connected to Judaism. I think the real issue, and I would almost turn it upside down, is that anti-Semitism isn't only a Jewish thing. Obviously, as a Jew, I feel very strongly about anti-Semitism and I see all the effects of it, feel a lot of the effects of it at times. But the bottom line is, the hatred of Jews is always the canary in the mine.

And it will always lead to something worse for others as well. Because at the end, what it is that makes people hate Jews, I mean, what makes anti-Semitism is an age old question. But one thing clearly that makes anti-Semitism is what Judaism stands for, which is what the foundations of Christianity stand for. Which is, again, this God gave us our life, God gave us our soul, God gave us human nature. And it's then enshrined at Mount Moriah with the near sacrifice of Isaac.

But it's then again reappears at Mount Sinai. That is the foundation of West and it's the foundation of freedom. It's the foundation of critical analysis. And it's the foundation of an idea of an abstract God.

Which abstraction, the intangible abstraction, and being drawn toward it. People who have ideologies of hate, of utopian destruction, Gnosticism, et cetera, all those various philosophies of destruction, inherently gravitate toward hating Jews. Because that most offends what they believe in. But that's exactly what ultimately leads them also to attack Christianity.

And then eventually all civilization. So it is the canary in the mine, but for a reason. Well, no, there's no question. I mean, one cannot get away from, I don't believe or take away, the idea that Christianity is the founding principle upon which our Constitution and our Declaration of Independence was made and was created. And that the bedrock of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness find their substance in the idea that there is a creator. That- Absolutely.

You can't disentangle, you can't take that integration and disentangle it. You can maybe say this division of Christianity cannot prevail over that Christian or over Judaism or so. But the very foundation of our Jewish Christian culture is what makes us a free country. It is the foundation of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

So you really can't get around it. You destroy that, you destroy who we are as a free country. Well, and you can't get around the fact that the rights that are laid out in the Bill of Rights, you can't get around the fact that the articles that are so well and eloquently expressed in the Constitution of the United States of America and the violations that are associated with the Declaration of Independence, all of them find their root in the idea of a biblical concept. The Bible clearly expressing a specific point of view, a worldview, an ideology, and those ideologies are expressed in our founding documents. And the pushback against the stealing of those rights by the king at the time, King George, is the impetus upon which our nation was birthed.

Absolutely. You know, there was another revolution at the time, a few years after ours, the French Revolution, and they killed God and they made man as God. And when man is God, well then great, then man can reshape man into a perfect utopian man. So human nature becomes putty, a play toy for these godlike men to reshape mankind into a perfect form so we don't have war, we don't have ambition, we don't have anything negative, and we live in a perfect utopia. Of course, our view is the God-shaped man, God still shapes man, God-shaped human nature, and it isn't of man's character to reshape other men into a utopia.

So our entire system of government is anchored to human nature as it is, and not an attempt to fundamentally alter human nature. By the way, that's where the word radical comes from. Remember, the word radical comes from the Latin word radix, which means root, which means the fundamental root of human behavior.

A radical believes they can change that root. We who anchor to Judeo-Christian culture believe, well, we're not God, so that's not ours to change, nor will we succeed. And as a follower of Yeshua, Hamashiach, I believe that he came, and that exchange of nature is what God does in the believer. He exchanges the old sin nature for the new. That goes back to what the purpose is of the sacrifices, the animal sacrifice, the high priest who would place his hand on the head of the animal, and the idea was is that he was imparting that sin nature into the animal, and then the animal would be sacrificed, and the high priest representing the people would take on the new nature which God would give them, and that was the exchange that was to take place. That was what happened on an annual basis for Israel in repentance of their sin, and it was only something God was the only one that could do it.

30 seconds, go right ahead. Exactly, it was only God. And of course, with this love of trying to change human nature, our politics is grounded to accepting human nature as it is driven by God.

They, of course, once you wanna do that and change human nature, anybody who stands in your way is evil because he's avoiding the utopia and needs to be eliminated, and that's the real lesson of the Holocaust. And John Adams said that our Constitution is only fit for a moral people, and Adams understood that the only path to that kind of morality was the acceptance, he believed, of Christianity, of Christ, but it's the same. The only difference between a Jew and a non-Jew in our faith system is is that I believe that the Messiah has already come. In your system, you're believing that you're waiting for him to come. I'm waiting for him to come again, so when that all happens, we'll absolutely be on the same page, there you go.

All right, we're out of time. Hey, I love you, brother. Thank you so much for being with me today. I greatly appreciate it. Dr. David Wormser, Center for Security Policy, take some time today, please, to reflect upon the horrific events of the Holocaust and to remember that history repeats itself if we don't change how we are behaving and acting in relationship to that history.

I'll be back with more coming up right after this. Don Janz joins me on the other side. Hi, this is Pastor Greg, and you're listening to Chosen Generation Radio. Get more at

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