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I know you have a choice of where you can listen each and every day, and I thank you for keeping it tuned here to Chosen Generation Radio. Well, I'm very excited to welcome my next guest to the program. He's a senior fellow and director of the Project on Global Antisemitism and the US-Israel Relationship at the Center for Security Policy.

He's also a senior fellow at the Colette Policy Forum, and he's also the executive and founding member of the Delphi Global Analysis Group, a firm that specializes in geopolitical risk analysis and mitigation for infrastructure, high-tech defense, and financial firms from the United States, Japan, and India, navigating in Israel. And I want to welcome to the program, my dear friend, Dr. David Wormser. Dr. Wormser, welcome. Good to have you. Oh, it's always great to be here. Well sir, fix your mic.

It's rubbing on something, if you would be so kind. Oh, sorry. No, no, no. That's okay.

That's much better. Yes, yes. Because you're going to tell us, you're going to share some very important information with us, and I don't want to miss a minute of it, okay? Because this is, I am, you know, and I appreciate, Dr. Wormser keeps me abreast of a lot of issues by messaging me on WhatsApp, and I greatly appreciate that. One of the messages that you recently sent over has to do with the new special rapporteur for Palestinian issues at the UN. This is an appointment by the United Nations, a new UN special rapporteur handling Palestinian issues. And my goodness, this is a very, you know, we talk about, right, Katanji Jackson-Brown or Brown Jackson, and her soft spot for pedophiles, and not being able to determine her gender. That's scary. This is really scary when it comes to someone that has this kind of animosity towards the nation of Israel, Dr. Wormser, sitting at the UN, having a position of influence. Yeah, yeah, look, I mean, first of all, Katanji Brown, I just wanted to add something about that.

Please. Although it's not what we're talking about. But she, and this is probably most disturbing, in the written response to her testimony, they're supposed to submit questions and answers in addition to the verbal testimony she gave. And they asked her point blank, do you believe in natural rights, which is the rubric for either divinely given human rights or some sort of natural right otherwise, but namely that the human, the individual holds the rights, not the government granting them, that there's something beyond man, that has given man their rights?

And she answered, no, she doesn't know. Now, that's awful, because in our Constitution, our founding documents, I mean, we all learned that when we were young, we recited, we hold these truth to be self evident that all men are created equal, and that they are endowed by their creator with an inalienable right. So if you can't commit to that sentence, which is one of the founding documents of the United States, the Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution of the United States, you can't commit to those two documents. And what I mean, this is a Supreme Court justice, anyway, that I just wanted to add about her. No, good point.

Thank you. Now, about the UN rapporteur, you know, she is a communist. And like communists like to do, their enemies are Nazis, the enemies are Hitler, they call them that. So she has gone on record again and again and again, arguing that Israel is apartheid, it is Hitlerian, it is Nazi, essentially saying Israel has no right to exist.

And she has a long, long track record of this, not one statement five years ago, is a consistent track record of this over decades. So this is the person now who will stand in the UN judging Israel. So that that tells you it's a kangaroo court. And that's the other thing is that the UN spends all its time condemning Israel. Over the last week, we saw the awful images coming out of Ukraine. The slaughter of many civilians, we saw the pictures, the horrifying pictures of people laying on the streets. In general, we've seen all sorts of terrible things emerge out of Ukraine. However, the UN Human Rights Council this week focused on Israel, and they passed four resolutions against Israel. One very condemnation of all sides, type violence, type condemnation of Russia at the end of last week, but this week, four resolutions against Israel.

That's what matters to them. How do you claim that a nation that fled Hitler and Germany and experienced the Holocaust, and then have the audacity to call them the Nazis? This makes, I mean, talk about, you know, redefining and a revision of history.

This is insanity, Dr. Worms, or insanity. Yeah, you know, numbers don't lie. In 1940, or 1939, there were almost 18 million Jews in the world.

In 1945, there were a little bit more than 11. A third of the Jewish people were wiped out. Under the Israelis, the Palestinians are growing and growing fast. So if you accuse Israel of genocide, then this was probably the most incompetent form of genocide that has ever existed, because the Israelis allow the Palestinians to grow so radically, not wipe them out.

So you know, first of all, on the face of it, it's just ridiculous. The second thing is the Israelis have, about 20 percent of its parliament is Arab. An Arab party runs, is the key linchpin party in the Israeli government problem, but it is, and that's the system.

Israeli diplomats, Israeli police, Israeli officials, ministers are Arabs. I mean, this is, you cannot complain, compare this in any shape or form to Hitler, apart from the numbers. I mean, you know, the Israelis have an incredibly sophisticated and strict structure of use of force by their police and by their military.

And they've lost a lot of soldiers because of their strict restrictions on the use of force. So to compare them to either Russia, let alone the Nazis, it is so real, it is so absurd. Well and they redefine it, because what they say is, is that if you are, you know, someone who is for national sovereignty in any way, right, oh well that's what makes you a Nazi. If you don't abide by their concept of open borders, you know, then that is what makes you a Nazi, folks. This is their concept.

And it's, you know, it's just absolutely, it's nuts is what it is, in my opinion. You know, when we fought the Nazis, they were the definition of evil. The problem is the left is now so corrupted and languid that it doesn't mean anything anymore. They called everybody a Nazi. Everybody they opposed a Nazi, whether it's Trump, whether it's George Bush, whatever, they called everybody a Nazi they disagree with. Well then when they get to a situation where you're facing somebody really horrible, you know, the term Nazi isn't strong enough anymore. So now you hear the left beginning to say, oh he's even worse than a Nazi.

You know, they're so corrupted the language that it means nothing anymore. And so in many ways, if you hear from the left any accusation of Nazis, I would instantly dismiss it and look more and ask them to explain it not using those terms. It's, they use it to the point of abusing it.

Yeah, no, there's no question. It's absolute insanity what they, you know, what they say and what they do. And we need to be, you know, incredibly careful with regards to, well, it also tells you something about their intentions. When you call somebody a Nazi, it means that he's not the sort of person you can or should deal with.

That he's so evil that he doesn't fall into the rubric of somebody you need to compromise with or come to terms with. So if they use that language to describe their political opponents domestically, it means they're delegitimizing them to the point where they don't have a right to exist. And then you get into a different world in terms of political discourse here, where one side says the other side doesn't even have a right to its opinion. Yeah, it's a very scary situation. Let's, if we could, let's connect that because there's a dot that I think needs to be connected there.

And that is the dot of the JCPOA and Russia, right? And how they are now the ones that's negotiating with Iran for Iran's right to have nuclear weapons and, you know, what I'm thinking about is two things, David. Number one, here we have someone that is advocating for the wiping out of Israel. Now we have two of our sworn enemies that are negotiating for the ability and we and I think they already have it, but for the ability to legitimize their the right of Iran to wield nuclear weapons in the Middle East.

Yeah, I mean, that it's a strange circumstance. I mean, in the end, Iran, whether it has or doesn't have it, it has a slow capacity to develop enough uranium enriched to 90 plus percent for a bomb. It's a fairly slow capacity, limited capacity at this moment, which means that if they get one bomb, it takes them quite a while to get to the second bomb, to the third bomb. They don't have to break out capacity for a massive arsenal at once. With the JCPOA, the Iran deal, they're negotiating the new one, there's a number of really bizarre parts to it.

First of all, it would more or less lift the restrictions on that. So Iran gets to the point where they could produce enough uranium within weeks to break out in an arsenal, not a bomb. So they're willing to give up some current uranium to do that. They're willing to say, yeah, fine. I mean, if you're going to let us install new centrifuges and increase our capacity from just one pound a day to 20 pounds a day, well, great, you know, we'll give up the two, three pounds that we've amassed.

And then, you know, in half a year, we decide to just break out and then three weeks later we have. So that's one way you got to look at it. The second thing is where they're sending the uranium. They're not sending it abroad. They're sending it under Russian control in Iran. So it would be passed over to Russian control, which we know how much we can trust, in Iran. It's not even removed from the country. And then third of all, it allows the Russians to use the JCPOA as a structure to exempt themselves from sanctions. So it's now the greatest money laundering structure in the world that's emerging. It's really scary.

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Cocollasis to your health. And welcome back to Children's Generation Radio, where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical glasses. And our guest is Dr. David Worms, or Dr. Worms, who were talking about this issue of Russia's ability to negotiate, quote unquote, on our behalf. And as you were sharing, you know, basically what's happening is that Russia is saying, don't worry, we'll monitor Iran and we'll make sure that Iran only gets a certain amount of uranium and Iran is only able to go so far in their, quote unquote, development of nuclear weapons and supposedly now the United States is supposed to be okay with a nation, with Putin at the controls and Rossi at the controls making these kinds of decisions. You know, I mean, imagine for a minute, and this is just hypothetical, but imagine for a minute what it looks like if Iran is able to launch nuclear weapons against Israel. Well, Israel is, in the center of the country, it is only about, with the West Bank, with Sudan's scenario, it is only about 50 miles wide. With the borders that were before 67, it's only eight miles wide at its waist.

So you're talking about a very small country in terms of, it's longer, it's about 220 kilometers from north to south, but it's at its widest, really only about 50, 60 miles across. So 80% of the country lives in the greater Tel Aviv area. So the Iranians themselves, one of the moderates, so to speak, once said that Israel's a one bomb country. In other words, it can be taken out with one bomb because 80% of its civilians or citizens live in that box around Tel Aviv.

It's a little bit less now, but it's still devastating. So yeah, the Iranians are well aware of this and that's their mentality, is that Israel can fairly easily be eliminated in its entirety with very few and fairly clear nuclear weapons. Well, and so, you know, they understand, you know, this is a major issue, right? I mean, this is a big issue.

Well, it certainly is, it certainly is. The Israelis are terrified of it. They take very seriously the Iranian statements that Israel will cease to exist. They hear those statements, by the way, every day, this is not a one-off statement by the Iranians. The Iranians say this every single day, that they will wipe Israel out and it will no longer exist shortly.

So this is not, this is not an operational strategy for Iran. The Israelis take that very seriously. And when they talk to others in the United States, for example, in this team, the Obama team, there's a certain unreality they have, they sort of like, yeah, well, they say that, but will they ever really do such a thing?

I mean, nobody really thinks of doing these sorts of things. Well, we see how good this team is at judging what's real and what's not real and judging what's possible and what's not possible. I would take the Iranians very seriously. The other thing is Israel was built on the ashes of the Holocaust where they didn't listen to the Nazis say they're going to exterminate the Jews.

And they paid a price, those who didn't flee Europe and they paid a price with their lives. So the Israelis are very sensitive to the verbal side of this and they take very seriously the threat. Well, and as they should, and as they should, and so should America, because that's the other side to this is, you know, what does this do, you know, to the stability of the Middle East? I mean, it, it was, this destroys, right? The stability of the Middle East.

Well, it does. I mean, you know, the Iranians are developing missiles, trying to develop a missile that can reach about 10,000 kilometers, about seven, 8,000 miles that has nothing to do with Israel. And the other thing is if you're going to build a missile that has that sort of a range to hit London, you know, you're not going to put a 100 pound explosion in it.

Right. You know, you send a missile into London, they're going to go to war with you. The West is going to go to war with you and what have you achieved with one missile with one 100 pound warhead?

Nothing. So you know that there's a nuclear program, a weapons of mass destruction program concept behind that missile that goes 7,000 miles. So the Iranians are threatening the world, their ideology, it's not a limited ideology. They do believe in world domination.

They believe, and their foreign minister, one of the quote more moderate foreign ministers, Ali Larijani, one of the guys who actually dressed in Western suits and showed up in London all the time, actually, a number of times said that it is worth the grits wild to convert to Islam now, because the terms for conversion will be so much harsher later on after conquest. So, you know, this is not a limited ideology, this is a global domination. So what, what haunts Israel now is what will haunt us in the future if it's not stopped. Yeah, and, and of course, you know, we have a completely inept administration that is monitoring this entire situation. And that's, I think, the thing that is so incredibly scary about all of this.

Dr. Wormser, thank you so much for your insight on this, folks. This is something we need to be in prayer about. And we absolutely need to be making phone calls to our representatives to put a stop to it.

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It's good to be with you. Yes. Well, a lot has happened to say the least, right? Yes. We've got some developments, yes, and they are positive and Ukrainian forces were able to not just stop Russian troops on the border with Kiev, but also push them out of the border and chase them all the way to the border with Belarus. So now all the troops from Kiev Oblast, from Kiev region are out of it and Ukrainian forces are going to towns, making sure there is nobody left. Also I don't know what you call it, but disabling all the mines that were left there and cleaning up from any explosives that remained on those territories, which we are so happy about. Yes.

Amen. And as are we, what is disturbing, of course, is what they are finding has been left behind by the Russian forces and the loss of life and things of that nature are certainly quite disconcerting. Can you talk about what you're hearing as it relates to that issue and then also my understanding is that there is an issue of additional bombings that are taking place. Can you share a little bit about any of that that you might be hearing in some of the areas that the Russians are increasing their efforts? Okay, regarding Kiev Oblast and everything, what was happening here, yes, the first news that came through was on Saturday.

That was from the neighboring village, not far from us here. That's about maybe 10 miles away from our village and we've got a couple of pictures from there and there was the caption to those pictures that look Russian have executed some people and on the picture you can see a lady laying down and somebody, you know, the person's body half covered with the dirt maybe and another person also half buried and you can see that the hands of one person were tied behind and then later on the information came that that was the lady was the head of the village, the responsible person from the state in that village and her family, they were arrested and they were taking somewhere outside of the village and they were shot there. That was the first news that came and we were kind of, you know, horrified like, wow, you know, that's terrible, that's bad. You know, just take non-military person that has no threat to the militaries of Russia and just cold blooded, you know, just kill him and then on Sunday the news just flooded, just flooded Ukrainian YouTube and mass media because I guess all the channels, all TV channels, all news reporters, they all went there just to grab the first sense of what it looks like to go into this liberated cities and what the life looked like while Russians were there and they were just absolutely shocked. We were shocked. They were filming and they were sending the footage to the news and we were able to see what is happening there, bodies on the ground, hands tied behind. Some places there were like dog shelter and all dogs were killed, including puppies. People not just news reporters, but just regular people, they were walking around with their phones recording and then sending it to the media or to the social media.

And so we were shocked. There was very nice report done by one of Ukrainian channels and the reporter went inside of the apartment buildings, just filming everything what he could see. There was no apartment unlocked. All the doors were knocked out in every apartment. Everything was turned upside down in there. Things were destroyed, taken or stolen. You could see that soldiers, Russian soldiers were eating there, left everything behind, just laying, just destroyed those apartments completely. And so you could see a lot of bottles there. So they were drinking and you know, there is nothing worse than a Russian drunk soldier because no morals supported by alcohol.

They make this person absolutely unstoppable in means of how much harm he can do. So we are just in such pain over what was happening there. In those cities, I know some friends that lived in those cities and they escaped from those cities before Russians came in there.

And I'm so happy that that was the case. So we didn't know how many people were, how many ladies were raped, how many people were tortured because you could see that some people's deaths was not just, you know, a shot. There was probably some tortured going as well to those people. So yes, we are all in deep pain over what happened there. I guess that some, I've saw the news that groups of investigators, professionals will be directed over there.

They will be considering every case, looking at every corpse and just checking how the death took place. What kind of, you know, what kind of crimes did Russian soldiers do when, while they were there? We are all in pain as a nation. I'm so sorry.

I'm so sorry to hear this. Of course, folks, you have to understand that this, this aligns with exactly what happened during the Holodom. This is precisely how the Russian soldiers behaved towards the Ukrainians in the Holodom.

And it was atrocious, the atrocities. Have you had any contact with any of your friends that were able to flee and get out of there? And have they had any contact with any of the people that decided to stay behind? I mean, did they find any survivors or were the Russians, did they find everyone and kill them? No, there are survivors, yes. There are people who survived. And we saw the reports yesterday on the news on YouTube channels that, yes, they were telling how things were going, what did Russians do, how Lady found her husband dead and how just everything was just a hell, like what they say. My friends, I didn't contact them, those who lived there and moved out of there.

I didn't contact them. I saw some posts on Facebook, one very faithful minister of God, their family. We did Christian camps with them since 2003, I think. And so in Crimea, they moved from Crimea, chased by Russia over here, and then they lived in the European and then Russia came chasing them again and they had to move out of there again. And so I saw their post on Facebook that their home is destroyed, a shell, a cannon shell hit it and it completely destroyed. So they will survive. God is on our side and God will provide the homes, cars, other things. This is just money and God owns all the money in the world and he can provide enough to recover all the losses. Human lives, it is something that you cannot replace.

That's why God appreciates human life so much. Yes, there were some survivors and those are people who will tell the stories and truth about how did it go. Yesterday I just called a person about one issue and he just mentioned that he just came from Butia, one of those cities up north from Kiev. And of course it triggered some interest in me like, okay, so what can you say? Hold that because we're going to go into a break. When we come back out of the break, I'd like you to share that story. That's perfect because I was going to ask you about people that you've had direct contact with from those regions and you are going around giving aid and praying for people in areas that have been devastated.

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And welcome back to Children's Generation Radio where no topic is off limits and everything filtered through biblical classes. My special guest, Pastor Vitaly Dedukilov, he is live from Ukraine, Plasetsky. He's just about 28 miles outside of Kiev.

So he has boots on the ground, he has been going around, he has been passing out aid. You know, for those who are saying, oh no, the Russians aren't doing this. His own mom lives in Russia. He literally had to go and take pictures and video and send it to her so that she would not believe the propaganda that she's being inundated with in Russia.

His own mother, okay? I mean, please understand, the disinformation is huge. So I was mentioning to you in the break, you know, people talk about the bio labs, they talk about the Ukrainian corruption, and then somehow in somebody's mind there's this idea, well, Putin is really fighting for freedom and liberty and he's fighting the terrible Nazi Ukrainians.

Please speak to those and then the personal testimonies, I want to try and get as much of this in as we can. Yes, Greg, you know, my eyes began to get opened to Russian propaganda in 2004 when Ukraine went through the Orange Revolution. Everything what Russian TV was saying about what was happening in Kiev was completely opposite to everything what I saw because I was present at Maidan at that Orange Revolution and I saw everything with my own eyes how things were developing and listening to Russian TV, it was so persuasively opposite direction, you know, was talking in the opposite direction. Later on in 2014 when we went through the revolution of dignity, again the same thing. I was present at that revolution almost every day.

I was in prayer tent and through the night I held prayer meetings there with some other Christians. And that's when we met, by the way. I can attest and I have audio recordings of those conversations recorded because you were live on air with me telling us about the situation.

Go ahead, I'm sorry, I just wanted to validate for my viewers again and my listeners that you know this is how you and I met in 2014. Yes, and again in 2014 I was absolutely astonished by how persuasive Russian media is in turning and twisting facts in such a way to show completely different picture from what it was on Maidan. It was very just shocking how, because if I wasn't there, if I wasn't with my own, didn't see with my own eyes ambulance carrying people's bodies that were wounded into the ambulances, everything that was staged on TV screen by Russian media was so well, you know, cut, so well put together and so well worded that I would have believed them, yes, those were not people but policemen that were wounded by the protesters. And here, you know, faithful medical workers carrying this heroic policeman into safety because those terrible protesters are so evil and bad.

I would have believed that it was just so well prepared. But I was there on that day, on that hour at Maidan and I saw a completely different picture and I saw a completely different world than Russian media was painting. So I can tell you people, I lived in Russia, I was born in Soviet Union and I was raised in Soviet Union and Soviet Union never said a word of truth in its entire history, never.

You'd never believe what Russian media is saying. It's just so, you know, the Bible says Satan appears sometimes as an angel of light to persuade believers into something else. Second Corinthians 11. This is exactly what is happening. Some of my friends, they went to Russia and they spent some time in Russia with their relatives and they say after watching their TV for three days, I was so afraid to go back to Ukraine because everything what was said on TV was so persuasive and so strong that I was afraid to go back home to Ukraine.

So can you imagine this? I always was wondering why the Bible says that Satan will try to persuade the faithful ones into believing him. I think it's in book of Revelation and I was thinking, how come we believers, we have this Holy Spirit that speaks to our heart. How can Satan's spirit talk to us into believing him more than believing God?

No, we stand strong, you know, but you know what? His propaganda shows me that Satan has tools, he has means and he has power. Just the words he's saying, they have power to persuade us otherwise. So please be careful what you listen.

My mass media tool is my phone, not social media, but the phone. I'm calling people, I'm talking to real people. I'm talking to real pastors and I talk to people who are eyewitnesses of those situations and in some circumstances. So it was in 2014, I was calling to Donetsk asking, what is happening? Russians are coming in and I was getting my news from my friends there. I was calling to Crimea in 2014 when Russians were moving in and I was asking pastors there, what is happening? And they were telling me, yes, these are not just strange people without any insignia on their uniform. These are not Crimean people that just put military form without any insignia and just standing there.

No, those are special forces of Russia. And they told me everything. So this time yesterday, I called my friend who just about my business and he said he came from Buche and immediately I asked him, okay, so what did you see? He said it was absolutely crazy bodies on the streets. So he's a pastor of the church.

He went there to help some people and those were his words. And I understand that Russia is telling that all the news that come from those Northern towns from Kiev, they're all staged. This is what Russian media will tell about Ukrainian news. Everything's staged. This is all actors laying down and everything. No people, no, those are real people. Those dog shelters and horse stables where animals are shot, are those also staged? Are those also like actors laying down? No.

No. So and also some news about biolabs. You know, just logically think, okay, Americans were thinking about doing the biolabs. Why would do in Ukraine on the border with Russia? Just you know, just answer me, why would do this? Why to, you know, those biolabs probably had to be somewhere in the desert where nobody's there just to do the best job in places in the countries where scientists are higher in their experience than in Ukraine. Why would they do this?

It just absolutely has no meaning in that. So biolabs, maybe there are biolabs, yeah, but to assign to them that they were developing biological weapons. For the Ukrainians, right. For the Ukrainians, right. They may be developing who knows what, but not for the Ukrainians to use against Russians.

Remember what happened in Wuhan and, you know, Wuhan is a perfect example of this. Ladies and gentlemen, you know, yes, there were forces in the US. Remember that it was Fauci and the NIH that gave funding to those experiments and the gain of function that was going on, experiments happening in Wuhan, okay, in China, okay. This is deep state activity and to think, all right, for those of you that are still with us on the website and on TECN, we're going to continue for a moment with pastor's permission, because again, this is so important that folks understand the disinformation and thank you for how you were explaining that, because as a former Russian linguist in the US Air Force and having gone through the training that I went through, you know, with the Russian defectors and so on, I mean, disinformation, it's just, it's horrific.

So we hit on the biolabs. We talk about briefly the attacks against Ukrainians as, because Putin's speeches continue to be, I'm liberating the Ukrainians from the Nazi oppressors. Can you speak about that for just a moment, please? Okay. How would, you know, such operation in the perfect world would look like? They would come, you know, they would come to the country that is heavily oppressed by Nazis and Ukrainians are just crying their eyes out, please Russia, come and help us deliver, you know, deliver us from this pressure that we leave for so long and they would come, they would hit only military bases, Ukrainians would run out with flowers and pierogies to meet Russian liberators, hug them, kiss them, feed them and give them green light to go across the entire country to liberate us from these Nazis. This is, this is not happening. This is not happening because we are not under oppression. We love our militaries, we love our country and anybody who steps on the, on the soil that we love with the weapons other than Ukrainian soldiers, we consider them invaders. So however you can call, you know, you can put cover over it, you know, like sheep's skin over the wolf and say, this is a sheep, this is a sheep, but no, no, no, no. This is a wolf that is trying to tear our country apart.

So he can continue to claim and, but facts show themselves. You could see, you should see some videos of those people in the northern towns of, from Kiev, how Ukrainian soldiers go there and how people are meeting them. They are hugging them. They are kissing Ukrainian soldiers.

They're saying, thank you for coming. Please don't go away. We're still afraid.

Stay with us. They just love Ukrainian soldiers. And one soldier, one officer said, there was a report on one of those reports that there was a Ukrainian officer, a young guy, probably like 27, 28, and he's standing and he's given a report. He saw the atrocities that Russians were doing.

And he says, those can be committed only by people who don't believe in God, that have no morals, have no fear of God. And he said that when we would go through the town and people would come out to us and we tell them in Ukrainian, hello in Ukrainian, he said, people will start crying because they've heard Ukrainian language because they've heard Ukrainian soldiers are coming. They would start crying and they would come out and Ukrainian soldiers were crying because they saw how much people were oppressed and how much relief do they get when Ukrainian soldiers are coming in. So it doesn't matter what Putin says. It doesn't matter because Putin is KGB person.

KGB has always been against God and against the free world. He is always operating with operations, not war, but we are operating with operations, special forces or something. No, this is war. This is war.

It doesn't matter what they call. We see the facts. We see what is happening and we understand that this is war. And the purpose of the war is to submit Ukraine completely to Russian authority and make it a puppet country like Belarus and that Russia would rule over free nation of Ukraine and make it obedient to it. So that's what the war is. And that's what you guys are fighting against. That is the war. That is the battle that is taking place and that is the truth is the Ukrainian people are fighting.