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Hosted by Jane Pauley. In our cover story, David Pogue looks at how designers have failed at keeping product design, from cars to computers, simple. Also: Robert Costa interviews comedian Bill Maher, host of HBO's "Real Time"; Luke Burbank goes behind the scenes of the series finale of "Young Sheldon"; Tracy Smith sits down with Tony-nominee Sarah Paulson; Seth Doane talks with the director and star of a new biopic of singer Amy Winehouse, "Back to Black".

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Discounts and coverage selections not available in all states or situations. Good morning and happy Mother's Day. I'm Jane Pauley and this is Sunday Morning. You don't need us to tell you these are complicated times, seemingly growing more complicated by the day. One possible reason, the technology surrounding us. New, improved, from smartphones to self-driving cars. Even when it comes to basic home appliances, we're increasingly confronted with more features and options than we know what to do with. So whatever happened to simplicity?

The answer David Poe tells us is, well, it's complicated. From the dawn of technology, our machines have evolved according to one rule. Keep adding features. Most of these things are too complicated.

Most people don't use all the capabilities even in their own kitchen. But now a breakthrough. A lot of that complexity, all that's going to go away because AI is going to enable us to just ask for what we want.

Can new technologies simplify our old ones? Coming up on Sunday Morning. For some two decades he's been dishing out real talk on his HBO show Real Time with Bill Maher, where he takes on the right, criticizes the left, and generates laughs along the way. This morning, he's in conversation with Robert Costa. Thank you, Real Timers. When Real Time hits the air each Friday night... Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. Bill Maher is both host and provocateur. He hasn't conceded the 2020 election yet. Take it from me, you've got to bring your A game.

A lot of people don't want to get in the arena, get in the arena and get bloodied up. If you say or support something goofy, I'm going to call you out. Ahead on Sunday Morning, Getting Real with Bill Maher. Her distinctive voice made Amy Winehouse a star, but addiction ultimately led to her death at age 27. Her brief but legendary life is now the subject of a new movie. Seth Doan has a preview. I was very blown away by that sort of rawness of that talent and energy around her.

I don't know if that's what drew me to it. Seeing Amy Winehouse on stage and then trying to recreate that connection for audiences on film. How different is your singing voice from Amy's? That sound I knew was going to be a challenge to try and replicate. Taking on the role and life of Amy Winehouse later this Sunday morning. Luke Burbank visits the set of the hit show Young Sheldon, now ending a seven-season run.

Tracey Smith is on Broadway with actor Sarah Paulson, a story from Steve Hartman, and more. It's Sunday Morning, May 12, 2024, and we'll be back after this. Life is full of what-ifs. Some awesome, like what if AI could fold your laundry? And some, well, less awesome, like what if you have unexpected medical costs? United Healthcare can help get you covered with Health ProtectorGuard fixed indemnity insurance plans. They supplement your primary plan to help you manage out-of-pocket costs. No deductibles, no enrollment periods, and especially no more what-ifs.

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Ovens have touch screens. There's no doubt that featureitis is real, and again, most of these things are too complicated. Design consultant Jacob Nielsen says that part of the problem is bad design. Simplicity is actually difficult to achieve.

It takes a good amount of time and talent, I should say, as well. And part of the problem is us. As consumers, we tend to buy the gizmos with the most features.

If I give you the choice between this toothbrush can do two things and this one can do five things, you may think the five feature toothbrush is a better toothbrush. I think we've identified the nub of the entire problem, because manufacturers know that we will always pick the one with more features. So that's their incentive to keep piling them on.

Yeah, they have the incentive to do more of that. But if you think today's products are hard to learn, try designing them. Do you happen to know in total how many commands there are in Microsoft Word? I can tell you having redesigned all of the icons for all of commanding in all of Office, that the collection of all of Office is thousands and thousands, tens of thousands.

Really? John Friedman is Microsoft's chief of design. And yet, what would happen if you in a new version were attempt to take away something that didn't get much use? Some set of people would feel like we removed something very important for them.

This is the conundrum we have to deal with. How do we take the power of what can be added to products as technology gets better, and make it really simple for people? Over the years, Microsoft has tried many times to strike that balance. When people complained that Microsoft Word was too complex, Microsoft offered a simpler streamlined word processor called Write. It bombed. It was one size fits all.

And that's really hard. Simplicity can only come when it's truly adapted to each individual's definition of what is simple for them. Then there was Clippy the cartoon paperclip. Clippy would proactively come forward in something like Word and say it looks like you're trying to write a resume and help you with the tools that you would need to do something like write a resume.

Clippy flopped too. I think it was before its time. Achieving simplicity is even harder when you're designing cars because your customers are supposed to keep their eyes on the road. Everything is getting more complex and now you can imagine what it means in a vehicle environment where you have to drive.

In addition, you get all kinds of information. Frank Weber is the head of vehicle development for BMW in Munich, another company that has experimented with designs for simplicity. The BMW iDrive system.

In the early 2000s, it introduced a turning, tilting, clicking knob for navigating menus called iDrive. It was not a hit. Perhaps you own a BMW and it's making you feel a bit like... And we were heavily criticized. Heavily criticized. Though it was not that everybody loved it from the beginning because their experience was different that they had with the other vehicles. You have to be very careful not to overwhelm people when you go from one generation to another generation. But now, are you ready for some good news?

These companies say that thanks to new breakthrough technologies, they're on the verge of curing featuritis once and for all. Drive me to Berlin. In BMW's 2025 cars, it will be voice control. What are some of the things that you will be able to do by voice that used to require going through menus?

Many, many of the things. Whether you ask for service, whether you want to change the interior color of your vehicle. I think if you want to go to a sport mode, typical things where you have to go deep into your menu structure, people will never do this again. The new cars can also show key information beneath the entire windshield so you don't have to look down. And unlike some car companies, BMW promises not to eliminate physical knobs for radio and climate. So it sounds like you're saying the answer is not voice. The answer is not touch screens.

The answer is not physical buttons. It sounds like your approach is to divide up the driving tasks to each control that's best suited to it. Yeah, optimizing that setup is I think the art of controlling a vehicle. Meanwhile, Microsoft says that it too is about to crack the complexity conundrum. We're at the dawn of the next wave of computing.

Probably the most impactful thing you and I'll ever get to see in our lifetimes. According to chief marketing officer Yousuf Mehdi, the solution is artificial intelligence. A lot of that complexity of files and menus and buttons, all that's going to go away because AI is going to enable us to just ask for what we want. This feature, called co-pilot, is a new app for smartphones and computers. So for example, I can say, hey, turn my PC to dark mode. See, just like that, I'm in dark mode. So I could put this into focus mode, do not disturb, without knowing where it is in the settings.

A hundred percent, just plain English. Could I say, pull up that email to my mom? Yes, you can absolutely do that. You'll be able to say, show me all the emails from my mom last week. Of course, not everyone will be happy. And people don't like change, do they? No, people do not like change. That's for sure. So will voice control and AI help with the complexity problems?

We'll soon find out. In the meantime, if you feel intimidated by complexity, design consultant Jacob Nielsen has two pieces of parting advice. First, no need to feel like a techno loser. It's not your fault.

It's the designer's fault for making it complicated, because it doesn't have to be complicated. And second, don't be seduced by this promise of a toothbrush that can do 20 things when you only needed to do one thing. Go for simplicity, go for simplicity, buy simplicity, and then your life will be happy. Rakuten's Big Give Week is back with 15% cash back. It's a festival of savings at hundreds of stores, including Ray-Ban, Dermstore, and Virbo. Prep for summer and save on sunglasses, sun protection, vacation rentals, and more. It's one of Rakuten's biggest cash back events, and it's on May 6 through May 13. Join today for free and get an extra 10% cash back boost. Go to or download the Rakuten app today. That's R-A-K-U-T-E-N.

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I'm here to convert everybody. History is repeating itself. Young Sheldon, the hit series spawned by the popular sitcom, The Big Bang Theory, is now itself coming to an end. Here's Luke Burbank on Happy Endings. When you've got yourself a bona fide TV hit, like CBS does with Young Sheldon, you don't typically end the show at the height of its popularity. While dad's gone, I'm the man of the house, and the man of the house has to enforce the rules.

The man of the house is about to get his teeth knocked out. Puberty's made you mean. But then again, there's nothing typical about the Cooper family or their brilliant, sometimes misunderstood son, Sheldon. There's the cafeteria, if you like tuna salad with hair in it. Over there's the quad.

It's a nice place to relax if you like getting hit in the head with frisbees. And for a show that's brought a lot of laughs over the years, there sure were a lot of tears backstage last week. You and I were texting and you said something about like you were crying your eyes out. Did you mean that like figuratively? No, he meant that literally. Have you been crying?

Literally crying. When we caught up with executive producers Steve Molaro and Steve Holland, they were editing the final frames of a show whose success has surprised even them. Did you think, oh, this is going to be another huge hit? Never. No, we would never dare to assume we know what we're doing at that level. That boy has an exposed tattoo. He does.

I wonder if he knows that's in violation of the dress code. I think even when you guys wrote the pilot, there was a lot of like, to do what Jim Parsons does on Big Bang Theory is a one in a million shot because there's so many ways that character could come off grating or irritating, but there's such a sweetness to Jim that like it sort of breaks through that and you're like, well, is it possible that there's a kid who's eight who can do that? This is the Ian they found.

Let me give you a little background. Ian Armitage from his audition tape recorded over Christmas break at his grandparents house on a cell phone. This is my Harry Potter magic wand.

We first met Ian when our Tracy Smith interviewed him back in 2017. What do you think you're going to be doing in 20, 30 years? I think I really, I hopefully I'm doing magic tricks in Las Vegas.

I have to really constantly remind myself that if I'm ever sad about this ending, I can only be sad because it's been so incredible and so wonderful. In fact, Armitage has pulled off a sort of magic trick. Can we go in and take a look at where the magic has been happening all these years?

Please follow me. Helping carry a network TV hit. Hello, I'm Sheldon Cooper.

And becoming famous all while staying surprisingly, disarmingly even, pleasant to be around. It is, it is funny. I think of this as my house.

Yeah. The set might feel like home, but Armitage says he's never quite gotten used to being a TV star. When I go home and when I see Thursday night at eight, you know, young Sheldon and I see commercials for it, it feels really weird. But I think aside from just delivering the lines, I think it's trying to stay true to Jim Parsons and his incredible Sheldon while kind of making it my own to a degree. Speaking of Jim Parsons, he's of course where the character of Sheldon Cooper started on The Big Bang Theory. Parsons says there's a certain irony to the fact that many Sheldon fans are unaware there ever was a show called The Big Bang Theory. Almost all of my friends who have children always tell me young Sheldon's on all the time in our house. And so it's playing to an entirely different, a demographic that wasn't born when, when we started our show and whatever. A demographic that frequently doesn't know what you're talking about when you say Big Bang Theory, but they watch young Sheldon. And that's been, that's been great. Aflita's saying, where are you going?

Library. Which brings us back to where we started. Why are the show's creators ending things, considering how popular it is?

Well, for one, the timeline. Young Sheldon is starting to collide with plot points from The Big Bang Theory, which gets complicated. Hello, Mr. Jennings. Mr. Cooper here. But also maybe because as executive producer Steve Molaro sees it, the character of Sheldon Cooper has accomplished his mission, which it turns out is actually a pretty important one. Some of my favorite moments are when a mom will come up with her son after a panel and say, my son's a lot like Sheldon. And I know what she means. He's having a tough time. He's different.

And thank you for making kids like him more accepted. And the fact that we could even move maybe the needle a little bit on that in the world is a reason to do this whole show. Sarah Paulson already won an Emmy and a Golden Globe. Now she's Tony nominated for a performance on Broadway, the place where it all began. She's talking with our Tracey Smith. What in God's name is happening down there? Who the hell are you? Tony.

If you happen into New York's Belasco Theater in the next few weeks. What in the actual is going on? What are you doing here? You might be on familiar ground, a family reunion at full volume. Rachel, Tony, what the hell was that? How long was I supposed to sit here and let her insult me and my daddy, our daddy, you piece of what the play is Brandon Jacobs, Jenkins, Tony nominated appropriate and the human volcano on stage is Sarah Paulson.

Guess what? If there is a sick person in this family, it's you. Can you sum up what appropriate is about to ask me if I could sing? And I was like, can you say, I know you know, I cannot sing.

Yes, you can a little bit. Just kidding. Appropriate is essentially a family drama com. My father is dead. Our father is dead. The only man we all shared is dead.

And it's pretty heavy on the drum. The plays about siblings coming together after their father dies. Secrets get revealed.

Feelings get hurt and very little is left unsaid as the older sister, Tony Paulson is in her element. You know, our father wasn't guilty of one thing that which just accused him of creating a character who's both powerful and vulnerable if a bit unlikable. So do you not have that need to be liked as a person? I'm like, please like me, please.

I'm begging you. I'm like a puppy dog that way. I mean, of course I want to be liked, but as an actor, as an actor, I feel like I don't think about it at all. And she still can't believe it's her name above it all on the marquee. She says seeing it for the first time was a shock.

And I, I did cry because I thought this is something I never could have imagined. I mean, my mother spent a lot of time taking me to the theater when I was younger because she was a good mom who knew that it was really a passion of mine. Her mom, Catherine Gordon understood it all. She wanted to write. And when she and Sarah's dad divorced, she moved her two daughters from Florida to New York city in search of a dream. And in what turned out to be the omen of a lifetime, she found work as a waitress at the legendary Sardi's restaurant on 44th street, the very epicenter of Broadway. Sarah wound up at LaGuardia high school for the performing arts. What memories are coming back?

Do you hear that? That's cool. Where she did her best to stand out. We had kids whose names were like Linae and Romi and Suna and Soren. And I was like, my name is Sarah. And so I'm going to change it. And I had everyone call me Sarah. Are you serious?

I'm deadly serious. And after graduating in 93, she was really serious about finding work. She skipped college and went to Broadway.

And before long, she went from on stage to on screen, playing everything from a sketch comic opposite the late Matthew Perry. Or we could just end it now, the fight. That'd be fine too. First of all, could you stop telling people we broke up because of the national Anthem?

It makes me sound like an idiot to an especially cruel slave owner, same as the rest master bought you here to work. That's all. And then she really got busy in the series, American crime story. She was unforgettable as prosecutor Marsha Clark in the people versus OJ Simpson. I'm not a public personality. This isn't what I do.

I don't know how to do this. That role launched her to the next level, but she still has yet to watch it or anything she's done since. So you didn't watch it. I've never watched the people versus OJ. No. Sterling K Brown is always like, mama, you might want to check it out. Like maybe I do, but he's like, it's pretty good. I just, but you think you'll pick it apart.

I know I will pick it apart. Paulson's just as clear eyed about her personal life. She and actor Holland Taylor, who's three decades her senior have been together since 2015. Though at the moment they're working on opposite sides of the country. When do you get to see Holland? Well, Holland and I live separately.

Why? I think, you know, I don't know if you know this, but Holland is a good bit older than I am. And she lived a lot of her life on her own. And I lived a lot of my life on my own. And I think we both sort of arrived at this relationship, sort of recognizing that we both wanted to maintain some of that. And we were both sort of adult enough, I think, to say, I don't want to give this up and I don't want to give this up.

So let's be together, but let's also be separate, which is lovely. At the same time, do you miss her? Oh God, yes. Oh God, yes. We get along great on the FaceTime. Oh my God.

And some things happen only in New York like this. Last week, Sarah Paulson had her portrait I don't think I've ever looked better, added to the caricatures of immortals that have adorned the walls of Sardis for generations. I love it.

It's going to be my new headshot if that's okay. The very place where her mom once worked. The man with the picture is Sardis owner, Max Klimavicius, who hired Sarah's mom back in the day. You're also honoring my mother for being brave enough to move to Manhattan at 27 years old, to follow her personal dream and to thereby give me a giant springboard towards my own.

It's hard to describe the feeling in the room, but you can see it all in the face of a former Sardis employee. How proud are you, mama? Oh, I've been proud of Sarah since the day she was born. It feels happy and it's going to make me cry, so let's not go any further with that. Not only is Sarah Paulson now a Sardis laureate, she's been nominated for a Tony for her role in Appropriate.

All this life you live, what's it for if no one's there to tell you about it? Sarah's a fabulous actress and I know that and I think she's going to win. Mom! I do!

Oh my God! I do! I do! Mom! I do! Mom!

I think she's going to win. Mom! Mom! Mom!

All those seeds that were planted in her early days in New York, now in full bloom. Pinch me is what I feel. Pinch me and just if this is a dream, I don't want to wake up.

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Seth Doan tells us all about it. Trying to capture a life in film, never mind one as complex as that of Amy Winehouse, can be a challenge. I write songs because I don't know what I'd do if I didn't. I've got to make something good out of something bad. When it comes to biographical films, critics often fire from both sides, calling them exploitative or sanitized. It's not for the faint-hearted director. Did you know that you were making a controversial movie? There's something about tackling difficult subjects where I just think, come on, let's go.

Sam Taylor-Johnson's film Back to Black, a drama about the life and music of the British singer Amy Winehouse, was generating interest well before its U.S. release this week. While you were shooting, the pictures were coming out and there were fierce reactions. Yeah, and it was difficult in the early days, not because I read anything because I try not to read anything. But you must have been aware when people were saying this is revolting. No, I wasn't actually.

Thanks for letting me know. I make sure everyone on set tells me nothing because I can't make the movie I want to make if I start hearing people's dissenting voices or opinions. Back to Black focuses on the making of the album by that name. It chronicles an intensely creative and complicated period for the multi-platinum selling artist who'd wind up producing only two albums before she died from alcohol poisoning at just 27. Winehouse's brash charisma, that voice and her distinct musical style made her a star. She won five Grammys for the album Back to Black.

To my mom and dad. But along with her success, the singer's struggles were well publicized, including her battle with alcohol and drugs and the tumultuous relationship with her husband, Blake Fielder-Civil. There has been so much written and said about her.

Was there something that you wanted to get across that you didn't feel the public knew? I mean, I guess what I wanted to do was to kind of create the whole person and so much of what we knew about her was said to us by the tabloids. And with our movie, it's about really being with her as she creates the music.

And that's a perspective I don't think we've necessarily felt or seen. Ladies and gentlemen, here she is performing live for you. It's Amy Winehouse.

Pre-Beehive and before all the attention, Winehouse's talent and self-confidence were already apparent at age 20. In this interview on British TV, the host asked her about pressures from her record company. Have they tried to mold you in any way, though, if people ask you to do things to change the way you look or speak or behave? Yeah, one of them tried to mold me into a big triangle shape and I went, no. She says, yeah, they tried to make me into a triangle.

I said, no. It was one of the first times I'd seen her in an interview. And I remember just thinking, she's funny and she's so quick. Taylor Johnson turned to Marisa Abella to portray the singer. When others came to the audition, they were in the beehive hair and the eye makeup, not you. No, I felt that it was important that I had to inhabit Amy from the inside out.

We met Abella at London's Abbey Road Studios, where she came to record vocals for the film with Winehouse's former band. How was that? It was amazing. I mean, it was it was nerve wracking, as you can imagine. Not only like incredibly talented session musicians, but they are Amy's band.

My first time singing with any band. Wow. Yeah, exactly. In auditioning for this, you told Sam that you couldn't really sing. Yeah, yeah.

There are jobs that come up where you say, yeah, of course I can ride a horse or I can sword fight. But for this, I didn't want to get it in like the back door way. And when Marisa says, I can't sing, you think? It's OK, because I kept thinking, we'll figure out a way. And that way, I guess, will be sort of lip syncing and dubbing.

But also for Unsatisfactory doing it that way. In the end, they did not need dubbing. Abella trained and sang the entire film.

Sam Taylor-Johnson was equally obsessed with trying to get every detail right. How would Amy see this? How would she think? Am I telling this authentic to how she would sit?

Would she be mad at me? Am I going to have a bad dream tonight where she comes and tells me it's not good? You were dreaming about her while you were shooting this? Dreaming a lot. Yeah, I was. Actually, that slipped.

I don't wake up in the morning and bang out 10 minutes by lunch. I need to live my songs. About 20 years ago, she'd seen Winehouse at this London jazz club where they shot scenes for the film. She'd stepped down off the stage and just was singing in a sort of very shy and quite fragile way, but with this incredibly powerful voice.

And I do remember just thinking, this is something special. I ain't no spice girl. Amy Winehouse's story has long been shaped by public perception. Her father sometimes seen as an enabler, her husband blamed for her drug use.

You should be stronger than me. But this film explores the deep connection Winehouse had with them using the singer's own lyrics and writings as a guide. I want to be a wife.

I want to be a mum. To the naysayers and critics who say this film, they're profiting from a story with a tragic ending. I think that sometimes when we experience a trauma as a society, like the death of an incredibly loved and respected talent, that trauma and that tragedy can eclipse the success.

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Totally, of course. I don't understand this. No cameras at the Supreme Court. I don't get this. You can film everything in America.

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Yes, we're number one in thinking we're number one. If you catch yourself laughing at something Bill Maher has said lately on HBO's Real Time, his Friday night perch for the past 21 years, just be careful. Next time, the joke could be on you.

How long have you been you've been doing this for so long? This interview? It does seem it does seem like it. Nobody is spared Bill Maher's humor. Political TV is full of groans and eye rolls.

Or as he sees it, his truth telling. Not on the right. If you're going to turn over your party to a foreign power, at least pick the right one. Russia? Are you kidding? It's like the Republicans looked over all the companies they could merge with and pick Sears. Nor on the left. You call yourself the resistance, then fight behind enemy lines.

That's what a resistance does. That's the difference between blowing up a tank and tweeting about it. Get out of your echo chamber and infiltrate theirs. What is the through line through everything you write and everything you say?

Keep it real. You know, don't be tribal. Don't say something just because that's going to make the audience of one side applaud or boo.

Practical solutions as opposed to ideological. And don't pull a punch. The 68-year-old Maher has been swinging at targets high and low his entire career, taking his own share of knocks along the way. But he still gladly courts controversy. The right response to speech you don't like is more speech, not the lazy, cowardly response of canceling people. That attitude explains the title of his new book.

It's compiled from years of Maher's commentary on real time. I wanted to see if the world had changed or I had changed more. I was excavating, reading over all these editorials from years and years and years.

And I wanted to find that answer. I speak for the Normies, you know. I speak for that, I think, vast middle that is tired of the partisanship. I don't want to hate half the country.

And I don't hate half the country. You write a lot throughout this book that the left irritates you, frustrates you at times, but the right often alarms you. Yes. They're very alarming. They're extremely alarming.

More alarming. What do you say to your critics, though, who say, then you should just focus on them, Bill, if they're more alarming to you than the left, then why not shine the spotlight on them only? The truth isn't one-sided like that. The Democrats constantly are running against Trump with the idea, you people out there couldn't possibly vote for this guy. And people are saying, watch me, hold my beer, watch me devote for him again.

Instead of just saying, oh, he's lied, we know he's a liar. He's Donald Trump. He can't help himself. He's crazy. I mean, I think literally crazy. I think there's a kind of a level of malignant narcissism, which is not just a personality quirk. It's diagnosable and he suffers from it. Trump has made over 8,000 false or misleading statements as president.

Nothing like this has ever happened before. If you had him on real time, what would you ask him? Would you please go away? Have you asked him to come on? Of course. We've asked everybody.

I mean, of that stature. He knows he has an open invitation to come on, but I don't think he really hates me because I think the amount of times that he goes after me. He watches the show. Accidentally. It's always accidentally. He watches it accidentally every week.

It's amazing. In fact, conservatives don't shy away from real time. He is the former attorney general.

Wow. Under presidents George H.W. Bush and Donald Trump, Bill Barr. When Bill Barr came on your show, what did some of your Democratic friends say? Yeah, this is exactly what I hate about this country. How dare you?

How dare you platform someone? The way I see it, we are moving, becoming a much more secular society. Just 55 years. But that's by free will. That's good. I mean, it's good that people do have free will. Oh, good. And they should be able... So you're going to have to talk to people.

And maybe you'll find out that they're not the monsters you think they are. I mean, do I apologize for Bill Barr's... I thought, horrible behavior when the Mueller report came out and he basically lied about it.

I don't. But look, this is what I call a good as it gets Republican. He came out and said Trump lost the election. That's the main thing in the Republican Party right now. Do you believe elections count only if you win? As good as it gets could well be Barr's motto for politics. I certainly have my quarrels with the left. And for life. To me, these are probably the good old days.

It could get a lot worse. Not wishing for what could be, but recognizing what he sees is real and taking you on if you're not. You say you're cynical about politics. Don't flatter yourself. Cynical comes when you know too much.

You, on the other hand, haven't bothered to learn anything. MassMutual knows that finances can lead to uncomfortable conversations. What about that guy who's always trying to get you to invest in his business? His last idea was generating power with electric eels. Oh, what about Uncle Paul? You mean Uncle Audit? How about that coworker who retired early? She's off the grid. So unless you send a carrier pigeon... What about... According to the Financial Educators Council, 39% of Americans don't have someone they can ask for trusted financial guidance.

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Broomgate. They say love conquers all. And this Mother's Day, our Steve Hartman has proof. For Peggy Means of Dowagiac, Michigan, Mother's Day was just another X on the calendar. Just another day without her daughter. In 2017, Jennifer was critically injured in a car crash. She was 35. On life support?

Yeah. And did the doctor tell you she wasn't going to make it? He said that she's not going to wake up, you know, and of course I collapsed, you know. It was terrible. Her only daughter in a coma with virtually no chance of ever coming out of it.

And yet, Peggy refused to let doctors pull the plug. Did you question your decision at any point? No. Not after year one? No.

Year two, three, four, five? Never. I just couldn't let her go. I know. One by one, Jennifer's friends stopped visiting. Even her husband moved on with his life. And yet, almost every day, her mom was there to comfort and care. And always talking to her, as if Jennifer could actually understand. Which, of course, she couldn't. Until she could.

It started with a laugh. Jennifer had been off life support for a long time. But still in a coma, when her mom said something funny, and that was it.

Oh, Lord have mercy. A year later, Jennifer came home. Although she still can't walk and struggles to speak, her mind is sharp and her heart filled with joy. What's the best part about being back among us?

Everything. Yeah. She especially loves visiting with her boys. And as for Peggy, the mom who made these moments possible, this Mother's Day may be her best one ever.

Because even though she won't be getting flowers or candy, Jennifer can now muster those words that matter most and deliver them as sincerely as they've ever been spoken. Ah. Oh. Oh, no. You love your mom.

Yeah. Thank you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning.

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