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For 491 of those days, Eli Sharabi was held hostage in Gaza. He tells Seth Doan all about his ordeal and the terrible news he learned. only after his release. What was the process of sitting down? thinking what you've been through and writing a book.
I really, really wanted that um the reader will be, you know, like in my eyes. Why was it important to you that others experienced or or tried to understand what you've been through. Because um It was um extreme. Um experience And I'm not I'm quite sure. that uh most of the people can't really imagine And what is to be in captivity.
even Israelis. It's You know. was very surprising for most of them. to hear about all these details. Why is it important?
for you to have others understand What you went through. It's part of our history now in Israel. October 7, it was. Event That Nobody should uh forget about it. I'm a part of this history.
Were you thinking about Writing this book while you were being held in God? No, no way. I thought I'm. You know. going to re be released one day, taking my wife, my daughters, move to England to live, you know, in a quiet place and forget about all this conflict.
not thinking about um speeches, not in not meeting presidents, not um Talking in the UN. And especially not writing a book. I wondered you have the book next to you. I wondered if you wouldn't mind just reading the first page. Five terrorists.
Enter with weapons drawn. We are in our pyjamas. They come with uniforms. Balak lovers. And Kalazhnikov's.
They found us. Me. My wife Leanne. our beautiful daughters, Noya and Yahel. And our dog.
We are in our safe room. a rainforest shelter in our house. that is supposed to protect us from Yeah. Not intruders. Like this.
The dog barks in In distress. She doesn't like strangers. The sound rose. The terrorist fire. And the sound of the gunshots.
Ricochettes of the walls. It's the finning. Leanne and I jumped. On to the girls. Shield them.
Checking they have not hurt. and shouting that the terrorists to stop. begging them Don't be afraid. they reply in Arabic. and demand that we hand over our cell phones.
I should note you Originally wrote this in Hebrew. This is a translation. Thank you. Can you believe You're writing about your own life. It's just not my own life, it's a dramatic moment in my life, um That I will never forget.
I will never forget the thrills. in my daughter's eyes. the fear. Ah just was horrible. What do you see when you think of that?
You know, when you see Your children, afraid from something. Um you understand that every moment They can shoot you. It's not something you can explain, really. The fear. I would need to leave it.
you know this moment Until my last day. Because you keep thinking of The expression on the faces of your daughters. Yes. Uh the face of my daughter's. Leanne was in shock.
Um she couldn't move. And I told Maybe she understood better than me. That Um they are not safe. with their uh British passports, like I thought. And I regret that I didn't to realize it will be the last moment I can I'll see them.
But you couldn't have done anything. You always can do something different. But we really believed. Um the British passport will protect them. For people who have not been to Israel, they might not understand this concept of a safe house.
Every home, every department has a has a safe room to go into. you had heard Explosions, you had heard alarms, and you, your wife, your daughters, the dog, you all went into that. Safe room. Yeah, um Actually, we understood, we understood from what we heard outside. We understood uh from the WhatsApp messages we got from all over the kibbutz, especially from kids.
That's terrorist. get into houses and shoot people and Set fires, um houses. Um We understood that. But we really believed that our situation will be different. Because Leanne, um born in England and they had British passports, her and the girls.
So We knew need we need to stay calm and um Like we thought. I will be kidnapped and they will be okay. That's what we thought. When did you realize? that you were being kidnapped, that you were being taken into Gaza.
I could hear them. the commander of the terrorist in our house um telling two guys that Hold me. to take me out, understand Arabic.
So for me it was design, I need to shout to my girls, I'll be back. And Since then I was in surviving mode. Can you remember what you were thinking? in those early moments of being kidnapped? Just Keep staying alive until I arrived somewhere.
I knew the way to Gaza will be very dangerous. I presume um The Air Force um Maybe we'll shoot any car going towards from Beri to Gaza. And So I was uh was a very intense moment for me. And for them as well. And for the terrorists.
I just want to stay alive in these moments. um to arriving place and Then I said start to think what How to survive there. You understand Arabic. How much were you able to talk with your captors? After three, four days we started to talk with the captors.
Um We've told them what we need, basic things like toothpaste, toothbrush. Um some food, some drinks. And we understood Um them uh talking, you know, between themselves about the situation. And they let us know about what's happening in the world. That There are some talks about um you know, agreements.
uh to change um hostages And We were optimistic about these talks. And we waited till our release. Unfortunately, um The first ceasefire didn't hold enough. for me to be released. you realize you've been taken in to Gaza.
You write then you're worried about being lynched? Yes, well the first stop uh we made in in a mosque. Outside the mosque was the mob of c of civilians. And that shouted Allah wa Akbar. And They They just um They grabbed me from the terrorists and started to lynch me with their bare hands.
Just people on the street? Just people that waited by this mosque. But fortunately, um the terrorists uh succeed uh to take me away from them into the mosque. And there undressed me and investigate me there. And moved me to other places.
Before even going too much further, to step back, if you don't mind, out of sequence. Can you describe life? What was life like in Barry, in the kibbutz? Quiet, ordinary life, um Mean the an Very we're very concentrated in our uh work, uh our professional. our careers, we were very happy about um how the girls felt.
Living in the kibbutz with lots of friends, lots of activities. beautiful area with fields, um with a dog So always like You know, it was our dream to to raise the family like that. We weren't far away from our family and our drive. to my brothers and sisters and You see, my brother used to live with us in the kibbutz.
So it was all perfect for me. Tell me about your wife, Leanne, about your daughters. Wow, Leon, um arrived 1995, she was 20 years old. She arrived from England. to be a volunteer for three months.
Um we fell in love. Um She loved um the kibbutz, the area, the people. she learned Hebrew very quickly. She loved to read books, she loved to sing, she had great voice. And she loved to sing, you know, especially Amy Winehouse songs and Adele songs.
And What made you fall in love with her? Oh sh She was very British. She was very British. She teaches me manners, first of all. And she was very proud to be British with her food.
with their culture and she was funny. I loved her. I loved every moment of her uh Living with her twenty-eight years. Um I felt I feel very lucky that I had this 28 years there. And our daughters, each one of them.
the oldest No yeah. was copy of Leanne. Um physically and um She ha she loved um Helping Disabled child air children. And Yahel, she was the extreme girl. I love uh jumping from airplanes and scuba diving and playing football.
And She was all me. uh except of uh jumping uh airplanes. Yeah, she was fun. Um She was funny. We had great life, great life.
Um I miss m miss them a lot. On October 7th you were taken and to Gaza. you say you write you were worried about being lynched by townspeople. How long did it take until you were moved into the tunnels. After fifty two days, in the middle of the ceasefire, the first ceasefire, Uh it was November 27, 2023.
This time as a convenience time that uh nobody will attack them uh outside, they moved us to uh the tunnels. It was um 20 minutes walk from the house we've been. Um The first mosque we've seen, we've gone in. They took us to side door, side um room. And then they open uh the door in um on the floor.
And we've seen the ladder and they asked us to climb down. You were inside a mosque? Yes, inside the mosque. There was a trap door like you'd imagine. In the regular room.
But then um at the at the floor it was another door. And that was a ladder and um that we needed to climb down something like thirty meters. At that point you knew you were going into the tunnels. Yes, it looked really, it looked like the perfect grave, um And uh it was a perfect grave for me. I refused in the beginning, but um After a while they um They stopped convincing me to climb down and they just took their guns.
pointed to to my head and They said Well, you have to go to climb down now. If not, we are going to shoot you. Why were you so scared, so reluctant to go into the tunnels. You'd already been held for months. Yes, but nobody liked, you know, to go underground.
to the darkness No air. You imagine no air, um, you know, um You're not going to see Day of Light anymore. For us it's hell anyway. How different? Were the tunnels?
Yeah, well, each one of them is different, some with lights, some with water, some with gas, and some is not. it's making it more difficult uh to survive um in tunnels without lights and um and water and and no gas and no telephone and They cannot bring any supply in. It was a big challenge for us to survive in these times. You mentioned that first ceasefire. You got news that there was a ceasefire.
Did you have hope at that point that you might be released? We have been very, very optimistic about the ceasefire. Um And we said after the women and children Uh they probably will take all the injured um Um hostages They release them. And after us, the civilians, and we were really, really optimistic. that we are going to be released Mm less than two months Unfortunately, it's um The ceasefire finished and we stayed there another four hundred and forty days.
So, in total, it was four hundred and ninety one days. Can you believe that? Uh if you've said that before, you know I didn't believe and it was very um challenging. to survive. and could to keep faith uh that one day you are going to be released.
In the end of the day we just needed to mark a least one thing that's good. They happen to us. And you it's like uh a muscle that you need to walk on. And that keep you Optimistic? And And it's like t to create a new reality in the tunnels.
Um you create your own reality. You and the other hostages. Yes, trying to work together. Yes, and. I explained to them that um I'm sure that is good things as well in this all this darkness.
Just some little bit of light that happened to us every day.
Sometimes it can be sugar in the tea.
Sometimes it can be another quarter bit of bread.
Sometimes it can be, you know, the one that gives you the food. It's not someone that humiliates you usually. It can be anything that make you feel good this day. This was your idea to talk with You're the others being held hostage and to say, This is the one good thing that happened to me each day? You're looking for any source.
that give you hope, that give you strength, you are able to um to pass this um uh captivity. and to survive. For a while you were held with Hirsch Goldberg Poland. who was killed when he was 24 years old, yes. He told you something that you write It just it With the sentence he said to us, it was Nietzsche's sentence: He who has a why can bear any how.
That's what. Hirsch told you, that's what stuck with you. Yes, yes. And it's helped us a lot, really. To have something you're living for, something that you're.
Yes, and we knew we knew each one of us, we mind um to the others while it's surviving. who is uh surviving for. It was great for us. Um And it didn't let us to you know to break and to give up. and to lose faith.
Why were you surviving? What was pushing you to want to survive? First of all, my wife and my daughters and just to hold them, to hug them again. It was. You know.
My main dream, and of course my mother, my brothers and sisters. My friends. Uh You you know, fifty meters underground. you actually understand the meaning in life. That is not your academic um degrees.
and at your profession. and achievements. and how much money you have in the bank. You miss. Your family and friends, you miss people.
So and we just wish for another minute with them. It sounds like it affected you in a Profound way. Your 50 meters underground, 491 days in captivity that you lose your freedom. And you have um Time to think with yourself.
So, you know, hours and hours every day. You understand what is important in life. And You just want another, you know, a second chance. Tell me about the interaction you had with Hamas. those who were keeping you, Capped.
First of all, um you analyze them. every day. You analyse their behaviour. Um because you know um You need to survive with them twenty-four seven. And you need to have a kind of relationship with them.
very you understand it's going to be very delicate relationship. You need to be very careful of what you're saying. And Never forget that they are not your friends. even if someone of them gave you more food a day before or made a joke Um Their behavior can change in every second. And And most of the time they have been very cruel with us.
So you cannot really forget that. And you need to remind yourself to have a zero ego. even when they humiliate you. and say horrible things to you. and use lots of psychological terror against you.
And Use from time to time violence against you. They would. Beat you? They beat us, um It was one time they broke my ribs. and I couldn't breathe properly for two or three months.
And my friend needed to help me to stand from from lying down to stand to go to the bathroom. And You know, they undressed us every two weeks. and look for um things uh that me maybe we are going to attack them with them. What did that do to you? Oh, it's very humiliating moments for you, and especially when you're chained to your friends leg by leg.
And you need to go to the bathroom with him, to the toilet. You have to go together? Yeah, you have to go together. It's very, very humiliating moments. It's not easy.
Are there Bathrooms? It's it's a toilet. Um There's no running water, so you use um bottles. You can see the worms everywhere. Worms.
Worms. rats, cockroaches, Just all around you. It's it was hell. It was hell. How much of the time were you?
in shackles. restrained. We were changed with iron chain on our legs. 24-7, every step you make, it's not more than three inches. I remember.
It was a week Um before the release. When they took it off from us. uh because they knew there's agreement and we are going to be released. And they took it off of us. and our legs start to fly all over the place.
We couldn't control them. because we didn't know how to walk. properly. like normal people work. because he'd been chained for more than a year.
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Became a friend of sorts. He's still. held captive in Gaza. Unfortunately. Yes, um It's really Hard to believe is still there.
Um I met alone. On November 27, 2023, And after an hour of conversation, I understood Um I says all the time we have the same DNA. Same values. uh a lot in common. the things we like, like scuba diving.
like traveling in the world. We talked about A lot about that. And He was an amazing kid, still amazing kid. I love him a lot, uh dearly, really. I like adopted him.
What do you mean by that?
Well, I felt like his father is half of my age. Um We were friends, but I adopted him, I knew that I needed to take care of him. because I recognize that it doesn't have all he needs to survive on his own. and they need someone to guide him. How did you guide him?
opened his eyes because he was very, very naïve. He was all heart. Very good heart. And I needed to explain to him in captivity people react. little bit different than the normal life.
And So I needed to wake him up. and to guide him and to teach him a few things. And we talked a lot. We had Hundreds of hours of conversations. I told his parents after my release that.
They have um Like a new boy. and become a man. Um and he can take care of himself. and you can survive. And they have to believe that.
Is there any way to describe the emotion I'll Waiting, wondering if we're being released, watching others be released. Yes. Um It's hard, it's hard to um to wait for him. All the hostages, their families, um running out of, you know, of um They're exhausted. waiting for their lovers.
They wanted a back home. Um yesterday Not a day. And it's it's not easy to to be with a family that uh still waiting for their child. And They are really fighting, you know, and um doing everything they can. for the awareness that nobody will forget them there and They're fighting for their children to be home.
It's amazing because I uh Then you understand what my family go went through. waiting for me. And We are still as a family, as Sharab is waiting for um at my brother's Yossi's body. and we can bury him and we'll have a a grave to cry on. You see the empty space for his grave at the cemetery.
That must be. Hard. It's hard, it's hard to understand that um But um We are very um close and warm uh family and we are very united. Um We need to We understand. Wai datiosis.
Uh dead but But we need to be strong. for his wife and daughters. And We are staying together. for this. Is there any way to have the introspection to think what w what what Why was I pushed to survive?
Why was I so organized, so disciplined? What is it about you that made you so organized, so disciplined? in such an un imaginable circumstance. First of all, probably it's something in my personality. Just born with it?
Maybe, I don't know, maybe. I love life. You speak Arabic. Did your captors Question if you were military intelligence. Yes, they were very surprised.
I know um Arabic But I knew it from when I'm studying or in when I was a kid. uh in school, in high school. And after that I helped my daughter that she studied as well Arabic, so I helped her with their own work.
So I knew a little bit a little bit Arabic, that helped me a lot there. How did it help you? to communicate with the captors, to understand them when they didn't tell us a lot of things. Just listening to them. It gave me a little bit of control of situation that it's really uncontrolled by you.
Again it was a bit tough with the with the thoughts that I'm a military man. that I'm not a civilian and They were scared about that. There was a species that I'm from Mossado-Shabak. And No, I wasn't, I wasn't. Um I used to be a CFO.
Uh of companies, so that's my job, not Musad, not Shabak, I just know Arabic. Um my mom is Moroccan, my my father was from Yemen, so we heard a little bit at home. Uh a little bit Arabic.
So I grew up with that speaking Arabic and understanding Amos, your captors Did it give you any insight? personally into what you felt their motivations were? No, not really. I can't understand any one motivation that uh educate to hate or educate to fight and kill innocent people. especially children at their homes, so I cannot understand them at all and I'm not sympathetic with that.
So I had a relationship with them and playing A role and acting at their game. Uh just to survive. I guess I wonder if you Learned anything about. Palestinians in in during your time in in captivity or Hamas or I w I just wonder what you picked up. What I was, I can tell you I was in shock that in, you know, in 2023, 2024 I've been there.
Um still people can be that ignorant um about stuff because all the media, all the information you can get, we want to get, you can get that. and they knew so little about Israel and Israelis, especially the young one. Uh because the The old terrorist.
Well, that was fifty more years.
Some of them or most of them used to walk in Israel in the past, so they knew a little bit more. than the young ones. And I couldn't really understand how much people can hate. and I've seen the hate in their eyes there, especially the young ones. What do you mean by that?
See the hate? If the old um commander didn't haven't been there, With us we were we were so much worried because they kn we knew they can take their guns in every second and if they are furious and angry. At that moment they can show us. When did you realize you were going to be released? Uh it was um high commander one day that arrived to the tunnel.
And he explained to us that me and all going to leave in a m in a week. uh to be released and uh LEI as well and just alone will stay there and wait for the another um Agreement. What was that like?
Well, from you imagine this moment hundreds of times in your head. That someone will come to say to you, You're going home and you believe it's going to be the happiest moment ever. for you. And because of alone, this moment became very complicated. Um he had small panic attack.
He did. start to cry and Shaking.
So we took water. wash his face, hugging him. Um It wasn't easy. Did you ever try to escape? We thought about it many, many times.
But when you thinking clearly, about the situation You understand You have no chance to survive outside. You describe the tunnels in some ways getting worse and worse, smaller. Yes. You say one of the things that sticks with you is the smell. What's the smell?
First of all, you have no air. Um The last um Um tunnel. We needed to uh dig Um a hole in the ground. that we can appear and course. The other things, so.
The smell and we've been just lie down two met two meters from there.
So it was awful. But again, we didn't care because when it's after such a long day uh time. When someone said to you, In a few days you are going home. You don't care about anything. You just imagine and thinking about your family.
I thought about Leanne, Noyan De Ger just running towards me. And that's what I was care about. When you were thinking about getting released, that's what you were thinking about. Seeing your wife, seeing your daughters again. Yeah.
you had been told By your captors, that they were alive? They were alive. They saw them on TV with my mother. and a protest for me in his in Tel Aviv. and they're holding my photo.
Yes, and even On February 8th, 25, they made me to answer how I feel that I'm going to see my wife and my daughters.
So that was one of the questions in this. uh horrible uh ceremony. Just um Fifteen minutes before our release. They knew that Your wife and daughter were not alive. Uh probably.
They knew that from the first moment. But for me, I'm glad nobody said that to me, although, you know, all days in captivity. Otherwise it would have been very challenging to survive. Um Knowing My wife and my daughter's been murdered. When you're released, you're first with the Red Cross and then they take you to the IDF and and what are you told?
After fifteen minutes drive with the Red Cross, you know. Carl, um the door was open and I stepped out from the car and A social worker from the IDF approached me and introduced introduced herself and said, My name is Leah. and your mother and your sister waiting for you? In Raheem Camp. And when you hear that, what do you think?
I said to her, just bring Milian and my daughters. My wife and my kids. Yes, my wife and my daughters, yes. She said.
Well Your mother and your sister will tell you. And of course That was her gentle way. Do I You know, tell me what happened. You knew. What she was saying at that moment?
I understood. Uh You know, I'm very practical person. Um I can't say that I didn't think This scenario is um It's possible. when I was in captivity. I say that almost, you know, every day.
I want to believe my wife and my daughters are alright. I say that to the captors, I say that with the other hostages. But deep, deep down, you know, I I knew this moment is possible and I didn't want to believe that, but I knew it's possible, so. I cried for five minutes. It was like a hammer on my head.
Um She hugged me. You had learned your brother. Had been killed. Had been killed and he was, you know, a hostage as well. And after a hundred days he'd been killed in captivity.
So And you what you know, the Sharabis family need to hug each other and be with each other and this is the only way we pass Um this loss and So I said to her, Come on, let's go. Um she looked at me, she didn't believe I'll react like that after five minutes. And we've done that, and it was a very emotional um Meeting with my sister and my mother. And after two hours mid We arrived at the hospital and My brother and my little sister. waited for me as well there.
In one second they You just understand your life you knew before. It's no longer um your reality anymore. Your life changed one hundred and eighty degrees. And And you start to understand what you need for your new life. Um about A place to live?
and how to rebuild your life and what to work and You think about all these things and How to recover from this trauma. What? Deep down pushes you. Today. Um That I really, really want just My wife, my daughters, and my brother will be proud of me and to, you know, to have a normal life again.
to rebuild my life. Um to do things I believe um I need to do is to fight for the remain forty-eight hostages that remain in Gaza. Hope. That The hostages will be released. Do you have hope that there will be peace?
I have more than hope. I'm sure it will happen soon. It's not easy, um, especially when It's a time now that We are more fight than talking. I remember in uh in the tunnels that um when it's uh Time that There is a big war outside or it's um talking as well. Uh we could see that, you know, the um The remote um You were getting a sense of geopolitics in those tunnels.
How would it change if there was fighting versus talking. They could be very mean to us when it was water and they could be nicer to us. If it uh it was uh negotiations.
So now when it's a war and more than talking, I can understand. what alone fails. Um And it's very difficult to think about that. I was thinking as we were in Mary We were both hearing the explosions. I've heard them from my hotel here in in Tel Aviv.
Israel has stepped up this latest ground offensive as work talking. I wonder How you see that. from the perspective of someone who'd been held in Kafka? I'm not here to give grades to my um to the Israeli government. I'm not a politician, I'm just concentrate of um walking and um and speaking for the remain hostages.
That's what I'm concentrating on. You just try to push the politics. I don't think about politics, I'm not interested in politics. You're at the center of it though. I'm the center maybe of the occasion and I'm very familiar face now in Israel and maybe abroad as well.
But Um I'm speaking just for the hostages, I'm never speaking politics. I'm not a politician. May ask maybe a hard question. There are going to be people who watch this and say. you're giving this space to this man to share his story.
What about the Tens of thousands. of Gazan's Of people in Gaza who've been killed, 60,000 plus people in Gaza have been killed. What about those stories? What about that side? First of all, they need to remember who started October 7.
That's first of all. And second, in war um People get hurt. My wife and my daughter's been murdered in our house. And If someone can explain to me how you fighting against a terror organization that hiding behind its own population. Um without uh people to get hurt.
Innocent people, I don't know how to do it. Did you at any point feel that you might have been forgotten?
Well if an If I tell you that if we didn't think Um About This thought that somebody forgot us, um, I probably will be a liar because you know You think about everything, about all the possibilities. Did you know you had this strength? To survive inside you?
Well It's never been tested, you know, but uh But I knew, I knew I'm strong. And I knew I knew that um Especially in difficult moments I know how to s think optimistic um thoughts. And I was very uh positive And New That my family will never, you know, let me down and forget about me and And uh I should do everything I can you know, to survive this hell and to come back to them. What do you think about when you go to bed or when you're trying to sleep?
Well, um Sometimes, you know. Just before bed I think about um Neon. And my daughters. I'm thinking about Their life I missed. Um But I'm very positive.
the life I'm going to rebuild. Very positive. How can you be so positive after Losing so much. I love life. I love life.
Simply as that. I'm very proud. That's um that meaningful for other people. That you mean that much to other people? It's The most uh moving feeling that you can you know, can feel.
That people care about you. You know. People say for me no.
Okay. your loss, you know. We lose. simple things and we think Our world is finished and our life is finished and you lost your brother, your wife and your daughters. And you're smiling today.
How's That's possible. And what do you say to them? I don't get any uh strengths from feeling like uh sad sadness and And Anger. I'm not.
So Uh it's it's It's something that just holds me back. Um and I want to move on. As I said, I'm a very practical man, so I can't do anything, anything. and bring back Lean. No ya, yahel, yosi.
And So the best thing I can do. From For their memor for their memories and for my family, for my mother, my brother and sisters. And to my friends, it's to be optimistic and to be strong and to rebuild my life. I'm Jane Pauley. Thank you for listening.
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