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So began a love story. a love story with twists and turns, heartbreak and divorce. and tragedy. This is Jane Pauley. Sunday mornings, Lee Cowan talks with Priscilla Presley, now 80, about life with and after Elvis.
As we were just talking about. Seems like you Had to revisit a lot. to write this book and a lot of painful stuff to Right at two, right? Yeah, it wasn't easy. It wasn't easy as I thought, as easy as I thought.
you know, you know, until you really start diving in, you know, to you know, the stories and the life and the ups and downs and Um I wasn't really ready to write a book. But the more I thought about it, the older I'm getting. I just felt I need to do this. I need to do it really for me. Was it?
Was part of it about kind of setting the record straight? Kind of. Kind of. There's so much stuff out there. you know, um, about my life, about others' life, about our life, about, you know, people in our lives.
And this is This is the real thing, you know, this is this is my life.
So. It's um unflinchingly honest. I mean, I think you answered just about every question a reader would have indelicate or not.
Well, thank you. Um Yeah, I did for sure go through the things that have been asked by others and I tried to think of the things, you know, that I felt I really needed to cover. Yeah. It wasn't easy. For sure.
Um There were times when I just thought, I don't think I'm going to do this. I feel like I'm exposing myself. I'm saying too much. It's too much of my, because I'm very private.
So, but then I went back to, if I don't, someone else is going to write a book, and I'm not going to be happy with it, because it's not the truth, or they didn't live it. and aren't meaning live the life. I did get through it and I'm happy I did. Um Happy it's over. Yeah, there won't be another book, so come and read it to um Did you learn anything about yourself while you were writing this?
Oh boy. Yes, I did. I didn't know how much I could tell. Because I am so private. But I felt I want to be the one, not somebody else.
You start the book. Uh really near at the end of your divorce with. to Elvis. Why start there? Ah, wow.
Start there. It was a good place to start for me. It was a good place to start because, as we know in the book, how I go through it. And And people will realize, you know, what I went through and my life. with Elvis.
Um I think I just wanted them to take the right with me. And No, you know, Elvis was the love of my life. He was the man, I mean, he was an amazing human being. You know, I met him at 14 years old. and never thought, you know, that I would have a I would be married to him in any way.
Um my time with him in Germany where we met. was you know, maybe four or five months. When he left to come to the States after serving his time in the military, I thought that was it. It was hard to be saying goodbye and waving goodbye, never think I would ever see him again. And then all of a sudden I didn't hear from him for quite a few months because he had so much with Colonel Parker, things that he had to do.
Finally I get a telephone call and It's him. It's three o'clock in the morning. I'm in Germany and He's in LA. I heard the phone ring. My parents didn't, thankfully.
And uh And I knew it was him. I hadn't heard from him, like I said, in quite a while, three months, four months. The two of you really stayed uncommonly. Close, really. She never remarried, you never remarried.
What are we going to make of that? We couldn't find anyone else.
Well, the bar's pretty high for both sides. I mean, you know, I've I've gone uh on dates and I've gone with a few people at lengthy time. Of course I have a a son, a daughter. And of course, um I did want children. The more children.
I don't well, I only have two, but I I um Love being a mother. Losing Elvis was the hardest thing to get over, knowing that he wasn't there. the phone call, just a phone call away was no longer Yeah. And there were lots of those phone calls, right? Mm-hmm.
There was a lot. Yeah. Well, it's only the only problem was at 3 or 4 in the morning. I had schooled a girl. Um As you were talking about how His story.
And your story is often told by people who never met him and weren't there and with rare exceptions. maybe the Elvis movie and the Priscilla movie. They usually got it wrong. In what way do you think they got The man Of Elvis wrong. Gosh, there was Elvis was so outgoing.
and yet so private. And a lot of fun, a lot of laughter. He had the best laugh ever. I mean, when he started laughing, we all started laughing, and we never knew what we were laughing about. watching him have a good time and laughing.
I think a lot of people see him as kind of this one-dimensional figure and A lot of that surprised me in the book when you talk about what he was reading and how he read voraciously and talked about. history and religion and Not everything. Absolutely. He was captivated by religion and finding out, you know, he would read about Jesus and about. about what Jesus went through.
Being Jesus. Kind of related to that. I don't mean in any way that You thought he was God. God or Jesus, but. Reading the books and reading the Bible and reading how he suffered, meaning Jesus.
He related to that in many ways. What's that? in an effort to kind of Find a purpose? Yes, I think yes. Mm-hmm.
Oh yeah, he'd preach the Bible. He would have the Bible and he would come out with stuff and read it and we would all be there listening and I mean it got it was great for for a while but got to get a little boring. We've heard this one. But yeah, he he'd have all of us gather and some fans that would come. around he'd bring in and Start talking about the Bible and get up and had the Bible in his hands.
I mean, you think he was preaching, but it was enjoyable. Do you think that comes from his gospels? Yes. Yeah, I do. I do.
In fact, in Memphis, many times on Sundays because he couldn't go to church. Of course, you know, it was all about Jesus, not him. He said, fans are going to be coming out to see him.
So we would watch. the windows. The two of us handling him. um watching the prayers, mm watching, you know, the people and how gross they were and he he was happy. You know, in the South people are very religious, much more so I think than here.
and everyone still goes to church, dresses up, women wear their hats. It's really, really nice to see. There's a moment where you talk about you guys just standing outside of church and listening as they sang his favorite song, right? That's right, yeah. How Great Thou Art.
How Great Thou Art. Yeah. And you remember that moment? Oh yes, absolutely.
Well, we're like kids. We were like two kids looking in the window and listening to the preach. and listen to the chorus. And of course, he'd sing a little bit too. He couldn't sing too loud, of course, because guess what?
The preacher wouldn't have any more people sitting down. They'd be out with Elvis. Strikes me as well. It strikes me that you couldn't really sing Those gospel songs the way he did, if you didn't have a Pretty strong fake. Yes, yeah.
And I think, you know, when he sang the gospel songs, you can feel that he was living the song. And I put a lot of times I put the albums on and it's just it's very emotional. Um because I you know knew how he felt about the songs and knew he was living it as he was singing the songs.
So um Yeah, he it was he was very unique in so many ways. Um I don't want to dwell on it, but when you get to the the point about the day that Elvis died. Um I didn't know, maybe this was out there before, I didn't know that your daughter was there that day and saw him. That must have been. Life-changing thing to see.
Yes, and in many ways I'm thankful. in many ways that she was there. She got to be with him and saw him for the last time, thank God. I went, of course, when she called and Joas Vesito called. If you're the guys called to let me know.
So I got on a plane that very day. and left and not to go especially to be with her. and a grief and of course myself. Um It was probably the hardest thing a mother could really be. involved in Um Because you can't.
Make the hurt go away. We can't make the hurt go away. The that you talk very openly in the book about His Use of drugs but he thought that they were legal drugs because they were all prescribed. Was there anybody around him who could convince him? to stop.
Elvis on anything unless he could that he believed in it or You know, thought about it and things like that. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yes, and you know Right. He he um But he had taken them for a long time.
before I even met him. Even in Germany. When I met him, He was already taking uppers and downers. and sleeping pills, because he could not sleep. You talk about how the doctors would basically give him anything.
Anything.
So they were really enabling it, right? Very much. He was Elvis. You're not going to say no to Elvis. But back in the day, you felt it was a normal thing.
So many people that we knew was taking sleeping pills, taking uppers and you know, like it was an everyday thing for people to do. When was it that you really noticed the change in him, though, when you said he looked bloated and Yes, bloated at the slurring of his words. Um Being in Vegas on stage And you could see it coming, meaning He'd sometimes forget the s words to the song. And that wasn't him. Yeah.
Did he have a sense that he was deteriorating? Yeah, I think he was. I think he was. He was very bloated. But it didn't.
Did he know? There's part of me that thinks he did. because he couldn't he was not happy. He was not living, he wasn't doing the movies that he wanted to do. He wanted to do movies that said something, that meant something.
the movies that other actors were getting that were movies that he loved that were serious movies. And because Colonel Parker at him because first of all all of his movies, the fans all went, people went to see his movies, all of them. And Colonel would tell him, well, look at you know, the theater's full. What else do you want? And he goes, I want to do a good movie.
I want to feel good about the movie that I do. And I said, I don't feel good with these movies. It's stupid. You know, it's and it's the same thing. Boy meets girl, girl meets boy.
Boy sings. Yeah, yeah, and boy sings, that's right. That was not Elvis Presley. Huh. It was much, much deeper.
He saw so many accolades during his life. But then so many of them came after after he was gone. Yes. And then very often you were the one who would step in to receive those actually.
Well, yes. because I didn't want him to just melt away. This is Elders Presley. Look what I mean, he was beloved not just in the States, but all over the world. and to have him just slip away And all of a sudden people forget.
Children would never know. Only they would learn, of course, about Elvis when Uh because he was famous but They now go to Graceland and I mean kids go all the time now. They love the story. And it ju puts a smile on my face because he would never believe it. The kids are coming now.
Mm-mm. Did he think about it? How he'd be remembered, or if he'd be remembered. I was I think he was more afraid of not being remembered. Yeah.
Do you think What do you think he'd be doing had he lived? Oh gosh, I think, well, he loved what he was doing. He loved this thing. And he just wanted good material. He wanted good material that, you know, that would be you know, um something that He could deliver and loved.
The gospel was one of them. Yeah. Yeah. The funeral that day, I remember, I guess I was I guess. I remember watching it at my kitchen table with my mom and she was crying and my dad came in and he was crying.
It was uh It was a national For that. It's a day we all remember. all of us who lived and have lived And even now. Is there anything about That day or those days that you haven't told anybody? Yeah.
Definitely. You know, I mean, it was hard to even talk. It ca it was hard to believe. It just that you never thought Elvis would go first before anyone else, before his father. Yeah.
His father was still His grandmother was still alive. And who would ever have thought? That This would happen. I think we'd lose him. The whole country, not just.
the USA, but other countries as well. It was un unbelievable, the line of people. that came to Elvis's funeral from all different countries of the world. to this day it's just unbelievable. the love that people had for him and the loss.
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But I never You know, I was close to his father. And he would He did give me little, I mean. how could I say, a little credit in a a lot of things that I did. Um with Elvis and what he loved. and how I cared for him.
But never thought that I would be the one that would take the estate. That's a Big burden though. You and your daughter to carry. But people came. Yeah.
And that's what it was all about. and they brought their children And now their children And grandchildren are tak are coming It's a graceline and talking about how their parents brought them there when they were little. It's really beautiful. I would imagine as a mom Raising Elvis' daughter would be difficult enough, but doing it as a single mom, that's another thing entirely. I imagine.
My daughter was not easy. She knew she was Helmut's Presley's daughter and she used it. I said to Lisa, you can't be telling people that's your Elvis' daughter now. Mine mind you, she's only like five or six years old, seven years old. That she did use it.
And I'm going, she goes, why not? It's true. I go, because I don't think. I mean, I don't, you have a great personality. And you're fun to be with.
I don't think you need to use your Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you need to use him, you know. You really wanted her to have as much of a normal way as you can. I did, I really did, yes.
I don't want to take anything from her, but I just said, you know, Lisa, let, you know, let other people find out. for themselves that that you're his daughter. She goes like who? Yeah. I sound like Other or they're dads.
She goes, Yeah, but they're young and they don't, you know, they don't I don't know if they're not gonna tell me about my dad, and I go to school with them. She really wasn't easy. She'll go, oh my God. I said, well, I just don't want it to look like you're bragging.
Okay, I guess that's not bad. When it came to dating though, you both sort of had the same problem in the I mean, who's going to measure up to Elvis? It's true. I never talked about I was with any of the guys. And if he called when someone was there, you never told him?
No, because he would call at 3 or 2.30 in the morning. And I'd slip out of bed. Thank God the couple of more. Deep sleepers. But that's extraordinary though, but That the connection was still so there that you could be.
And I could never tell him there was anyone there, but he never asked me. You never did. No. Mm-mm. No.
He didn't want me to say yeah, he's laying in bed waiting for me. Yeah. Uh that's very But Um When it came to Graceland, it was... It was basically. as I understand it, kind of hemorrhaging money.
Um at that time. But you made it You were You were very insistent on the fact that you weren't going to sell it. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Because away.
Pardon me? Because why? Oh my god. Because Elvis love that home. I mean he he would bring people in, fans and he loved that home.
I just in my heart I just I yeah. I just had to figure out a way to keep it. And that's when I had to roll my sleeves up and start asking questions on who I should go to. Because I really wasn't in the business world at all. Was it Was it hard to make the decision to open it up to the public?
Very much so. Absolutely. Yes, it was his home and I'm thinking, oh my god, you know, people are going to come. you know, in his home, not that you know, just You know In droves. I mean they were.
It was It was hard, but I was not, we're not going to lose Lega. I didn't want to lose Graceland. That was Lisa's. Uh I um And I even thought, my God, what would my daughter say to me? If you ask me, mom, why did we sell Grayson?
Why isn't that my home anymore? I could I don't I couldn't bear. To have that. You wrote in the book that when you're there you still Feel a spirit there. I do.
Still? Absolutely. I walk in the front door. And I can hear Scylla. Is that you?
Really? I bet he says when he was upstairs Oh yeah, no, it's very eerie. It's really eerie. I mean. But when I go in, it's like it's all come alive.
It's like, oh my God, this happened, that happened. I mean, you know, things I did that were silly happened. I mean, I but I um Tried to cook. And I tried to cook. Surprise of this, I was making spaghetti.
And he loves spaghetti. and um he invited uh couple of the guys to have dinner with us. And it's time and Nevis is asking where the dinner is because it's been like 45 minutes, nothing on the table. Yeah. And I had I ha I had um Forgot to cook the spaghetti.
I just made the meatballs. I was so nervous I couldn't even think right, 'cause here I am. He loves spaghetti. And I'm trying to figure out now I had them there, I just didn't boil them. They were laying in the pot.
But so I was thinking Salah, hey come here, Salah, Salah, where's the food? I'm going Just a minute. Let me go get it. And it wasn't done. And then I'm...
I'm a nervous wreck. I have the other guys sitting at the table, and they're now teasing me.
Well, you'll never cook again. Which I never did. Mm-hmm. You um To that point, you talk a lot in the book about Essentially being really the, at least at home, the only woman that was around. You were just surrounded by Elvis and all his guys.
Uh-huh. Absolutely. I was one of the guys. But it also left you with No other women to talk to, right? I mean No, no, it was the guys.
All in all, it was a different life, a fast life, a loving life. And they, you know. a life that you really had to get used to. That was it. You had to get used to it or you're out.
How did you find your own? identity, I guess. I mean I guess that's one of the reasons you you left the marriage in the first place. Yes, I lost myself. to be honest with you.
You know, I um I realized, you know, gosh, yeah, yeah. I I really I want to do something. I want to work.
Well, Elvis really didn't want me to work. You know, he said I didn't need to work, but I did need to do something. But the Bow. the urge or the sense to kind of break free And be you. was big enough that He left.
The most high. I wattage Marriage on the Planet at the time and people really were shocked. Why would you leave nobody? Because I had to find me. Who was I?
I was, you know, I was Elvis's wife. And that's all, you know, people are around me for. And I go, I have to. I have to be me. I have to be, you know, I have to find out really.
I'm still young. I'm 21. I'm still trying to find out who I am. What I can do. Can I do something?
Am I going to work? I want to work, I want to do so, I want to prove to others that I'm not just a wife. And I just needed to find out. life. I was living Elvis' life, it was all about him.
I mean, I was very much in love with Elvis. Um Very much. It strikes me you still are still very much in love with him. I didn't leave him 'cause I didn't love him. I just couldn't leave live the life.
I mean, you know, with six guys, You know, they were cheating on their wives. I'm watching this. and I know their wives, I'm best friends with them. I just couldn't live a life of a lie. Hmm.
meaning the lie that The wife asked me something, do I know? I don't know. You know, it was, it was, believe me, I know people who don't understand it, Selvis Presley, yes, it doesn't mean I didn't love him. I still love him to this day. Mm.
What what got you to enroll in acting classes in the first place? Oh, why did I get in but into acting classes? Oh. Because I Needed to be free from myself, meaning I was quite shy. I was actually very shy, believe it or not.
You speak of those years when you were on Dallas as being some of the happiest years of your life, yeah? Yeah. I loved it. I love playing Jenna Wade. You know, you're out of yourself.
You can be someone else. And it was fun. I enjoyed it very much. I like Pactor Duffy, he was great. Here's my love interest along with a few other girls, but uh I had to put up with it.
Was it tough when it ended? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was. Everyone was very sad about leaving.
We all really bonded together. It was wonderful. Yeah. Is it true that you really turned down Charlie's Angels? I did.
Did you really? Yeah. I did not want to be a Charlie's Angels because you do a Charlie's Angels, and that's how you looked at in real life. And I did not want to look like a Charlie's Angels or. be associated in that.
You know. You know, and that How can I say it? as a as a Charlie's Angel's girl.
So I turned that down. I turned a few a few shows down. Naked Gun comes along and it's still I told you before I was watching some of the scenes. They're just so funny. Were you...
Were you worried? Because you'd never really done comedy before, right? No, I never I've never done comedy. No. Um And I did tell that to the director.
I said, you know, I I am not a comedian. He laughed and he said, Son of we're not looking for a comedian. You know, you'll have, you know, well, you know, you'll know your lines and everything, but we think you're perfect for this role. And I go, I haven't really done a lot of roads though. But he was, I had a wonderful relationship with him.
He was such a nice man. Him and his wife were wonderful. And you said Leslie Nielsen was Leslie Nielsen was great. Um He could not have been nicer. I really miss him a lot.
We had lots of talk.
Some of the more interesting parts of the book that aren't necessarily about you are about some of the other celebrities in your life. You've been around celebrity forever, but Michael Jackson was something different, he said, for you. Yeah. In what way? Um Because I felt he was very clever.
you know I had read things about, you know, Michael. And um, you know, I didn't I didn't dislike Michael. I When my daughter told me about Michael, And then he approached her. And Thank you. She liked him a lot.
And we were getting ready to go to Hawaii. And um I thought, I gotta talk I gotta talk to her while we're in Hawaii. I'm not going for this at all. And so we got there. About the third day we're walking on the beach and s she said, Mi uh Mich um Mom, you know, Michael wants to get married.
And that is when I said, Lisa. I'm not really for it. And she goes, why not? I go, who are you? Michael Jackson Lisa Presley.
and I knew that Michael loved attention. Yeah. But she did. And he hung out with a lot of people with big names. Yeah.
And I knew it. I knew that's the reason why. They didn't even know each other that long.
So I did tell her that. I didn't want to rub it in. I didn't want to keep saying it. I already said it. She knew how I felt.
And then she found out for herself. And she actually came to me and said, Mom, you were right. That kiss on the MTV Music Awards. Yeah. Well he figured all that out.
Yeah. Yep. It was all just. She goes, Mike you know, Mich Michael wants to, you know, Wanted to give me a kiss, you know, at the show, and I'm going, oh boy. Yeah, that was all planned.
Really? But now in meeting him, he came to Memphis, you know, he was sweet. Yeah, that little voice. Yeah. And I asked Lisa after he had gone back and we were still in Memphis, I asked her, does he really talk that way?
And she says no. Hmm. He has another voice. The other person that I I found interesting was you weren't. You weren't really big on O.J.
Simpson when he was doing the naked gun movies, were you? No. What was it about him? I just didn't like his demeanor. at all.
He was really he was really full of himself. Yeah. Yeah, and I I saw that and I just And I didn't really want to be around him. Um Yeah. And then You know, we know, of course, what happened.
And I just went, wow, I could see that happening. Oh, Jay did whatever he wanted. You know, said whatever he wanted, did whatever he wanted. He could be very, very nice. But I just didn't, I just felt something about him.
in the way he was with his wife and it didn't set well with me. I I never really put it together before you wrote it, but just How many of the Presleys have had to bury They're children. When you list it off everybody, It's everybody. almost including you, most recently. Yeah.
That's hard to take. That's reality right there. And uh, yeah, um Okay. Yeah, there's a couple of wives. Left.
A couple And that's really about it. I still have a son. I can't think of things like that. I'm trying to keep positive. I'm trying not to let my past you know, get in the way of me raising him or I've raised him and he's on his way to kind of searching for his own, you know.
his own things and what he wants to do. He's still searching. love him to death. He's a great kid, a great, great kid. And he struggles being who he is as well.
He doesn't, you know, he doesn't like the limelight. It's very private. the death of Lisa Marie must have been so fresh really when you were writing this. Yeah. And obviously, it must have been, it was toward the end of the book because probably we were getting close to being done with the book at that point.
I can't imagine. what you had to go through. Still going through it. Yeah. Still hard to believe.
You know, all the memories come forward, all the laughter, all the fun. all the issues. But That phone call. Um from Danny, her ex-husband was uh My life just stood still. I could I couldn't even believe the words.
It seems like you've lived with so much. Grief, really. in your life. And you even write in the book that you're never going to outlive it. Yeah, no?
So what do you do with it all? I have to live life. I have a son. I have grandchildren now. And I want to and have to be there for them.
But not many people talk about Scientology, but you're pretty open about talking about it. I did. They have th they have there's there's a lot of good in Scientology. What did it do for you? It opened up my mind in a lot of ways.
A lot of ways of looking at things, a lot of ways of working things out, a lot of ways of. you know, looking at the bigger picture. I learned a lot. I didn't have a bad My bad time there. But you you left eventually not necessarily because of Scientology just because Mm-hmm.
Um, my daughter left. Yeah. And I started looking at it and thinking, Gosh, I You know, I d I wanna uh I want to do a lot more things. I mean, when you're in Scientology, you're you're pretty much you're devoted to Scientology. And I had been asked to do a lot of things and movies and things and that I did.
And um I just needed freedom to be able to do it, do it right then. and not have to worry about going to class or you know, making sure I put my time in. But I never had a bad experience with Scientology. like some people have. I really want to enjoy my life at this time.
I don't want to be someone that you know, is Unhappy, or gee, this happened to me. Things happen to everybody in life. I now can look at things in a bigger picture. I enjoyed people, I enjoyed being around people, but I also like my privacy as well. Hmm.
Yeah, I decide for myself what I want to do when I want to do it, if I want to do it. And uh I I feel I'm in a really good place. Mm-hmm. How how big a part of Elvis. How big a Chunk of your life does he still occupy?
Oh, he's still around. He's still around. He's still around. Oh, yeah. There are things that happen and I go, okay, what have Ell what have what would Ellis would have done here?
Or I know what Ellis would have done here. Oh my gosh, he'd knock that guy out in a second. You said in the book when Lisa Marie did decide to. separate from Michael Jackson that you could hear Elvis' reaction. True.
No, um Yeah, I'm I'm living a a good life. I'm very positive. I look at the good things in life, not the bad things. I think that's the way we all should live. We've all been through bad things.
We've all had to struggle. But look You know, when you stop and think about it, we don't we're not here that long. Yeah, okay. We're not, all of a sudden we're older and we think, wow, I don't want to hold on to bad things. I don't want to hold on to you know, things that that are in the past that happened.
I I I want to move forward. And and I have great friends and um I enjoy very much being around them, but I also like my privacy very, very much. And I'm alone a lot, but I get along with myself. I don't talk back. Bye What do you want people to take away from the the story of your life, or at least this second chapter of your life, I guess, after Elvis.
Oh my gosh, I've been through a lot. I Work through it. I feel like I'm a better person, not that I was a bad person, but more educated, more living life. More coming out more. Enjoyed people.
Um I feel more comfortable. As they say in your shoes, is that right?
Now. I'm able to write the book. And feel and felt it was like freedom. when I wrote the book and finished it. She's like, wow, I can't believe I got through this.
And I hope people enjoy it. I, you know. It was a good life. I have no regrets whatsoever. I'm Jane Pauley.
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