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While looking ahead to the next. Often the conclave is described as a referendum on the pope, in this case Pope Francis. Do you see it that way?
I would say no. It's different than any other kind of normal political infrastructure the church is. It's a family, and so the conclave is much more like having a big family meeting and discussing together how is the family doing.
The view from the Vatican ahead this Sunday morning. YouTube turned 20 this past week. Our David Pogue will trace just how far this global video giant has come and where it might be going. Everyone knows that YouTube is big, but this big? We are the number one streamer on television screens. More streaming than all the paid services that HBO and Disney and Netflix. Yeah, the distinction between traditional TV success and YouTube success is really, it's a mirage.
Yeah. Seen this movie? Later on Sunday morning, YouTube at 20 years old.
Happy birthday, YouTube. A new musical has arrived on Broadway based on the life of singer and actor Bobby Darin. Mo Rocca will take a look behind the curtain at the story of an entertainer whose life ended far too soon.
Somewhere beyond the sea. Tony award winner Jonathan Groff didn't need much convincing to play Bobby Darin on Broadway. I watched these clips of him on YouTube and it was like he was reaching out and gripping my heart because I could see his passion and I could see his presence. Coming up on Sunday morning, the gripping life of Bobby Darin. Also ahead this Sunday morning, Lee Cowan assesses the great Gatsby 100 years after F. Scott Fitzgerald penned what's become a classic American novel. Coach, thank you for doing this.
Tony DeCopel visits with legendary football coach Bill Belichick as he makes an unlikely return to college. David Martin marks the anniversary of the fall of Saigon and the end of the war in Vietnam. Commentary from historian Douglas Brinkley and more. It's the last Sunday morning of the month, April 27th, 2025 and we'll be right back. To begin this morning, the funeral of Pope Francis.
Our Seth Stone reports from Rome. In death, as in life, Francis cast aside formality. He wanted a simple funeral for a common man. But he was a pope and simple is hard to do in the shadow of Saint Peter's Basilica. Royals, presidents and cardinals in a sea of red joined hundreds of thousands of the faithful at the Pope's funeral mass Saturday.
The service underlined both history and continuity. Francis was the 266th pope of this 2,000 year old institution. In this singular office, Francis still stood out. He was the first pope from the Americas, the first Jesuit pope, and despite being the spiritual leader of nearly one and a half billion Catholics, those who knew him say he prized being normal.
His plain wooden coffin was driven through Rome, winding its way past the Colosseum as thousands bid farewell, including American Sonia Sweeney and her family. This pope in particular has been really wonderful for the new generations because he was so welcoming and loving and I think he really opened up the church, not only for Catholics, but for, you know, everybody. Francis chose to be buried outside of the Vatican, the first pontiff in more than a century to do so.
At the Basilica of Saint Mary Major, his tombstone will be marked just Franciscus, no mention of that title pope, an eternal message of humility. You can never fully be prepared for for the loss of something like this, you know, someone who for the last 13 years almost was the sort of visible sign of unity in the church. Dominic Walters from Minnesota is studying to become a priest at Rome's Pontifical North American College along with Deacon Robert Williams, who's from Oklahoma. Both met Pope Francis. I remember he joked, make sure and be normal priests, do things like play sports, you know, play instruments, do normal things. And so I, you know, it's funny how that stuck with me is that now here every time I play pick up soccer or pick up basketball, I always think like this one's for you, Pope Francis. So he was just a man of normalcy and he wanted us to imitate that.
He told CBS News' Nora O'Donnell in a rare interview with an American broadcast network that he wanted to leave a legacy that is not about us, but about himself. Do you like when you are called the people's Pope? The Pope of the people? I've always been a pastor. You are a pastor for the people, not for yourself. A pastor has to be for the people.
Born in Argentina, the son of Italian immigrants, Jorge Mario Bergoglio took the name Francis as pontiff after the saint who rejected wealth. Railing against the quote virus of consumerism, he said he wanted a poor church for the poor. All those people around us who are trapped in a cycle of poverty, they too need to be given hope. In his 2015 address to Congress, a first for any Pope, he expressed his concern about inequality, a theme throughout his papacy.
The fight against poverty and hunger must be fought constantly. And in a powerful gesture and break with a pre-easter tradition, the Pope would wash the feet of non-Christians, including Muslim and Hindu refugees, as well as women prisoners. He definitely made the Pope a more approachable, accessible figure, but also a more of a celebrity in the modern mold. Francis Rocca covered this Pope mostly as a reporter for the Wall Street Journal.
The pontiff traveled in simple cars and traded the lavish apostolic palace for a room at a Vatican guesthouse. People called him the people's Pope. That reminds us of the people's princess, Princess Diana, obviously very different figures. And yet in some ways they were relatable. Francis became a true modern celebrity that people identified with. They felt they knew him personally. Did that change the church itself in any way?
Is it tone over teaching? People felt they understood what he was saying based on a soundbite. And that drove more rigorous people in the church. It drove them crazy because they would say, no, that was taken out of context.
That was just a soundbite. For instance, he made a provocative statement on his first international trip saying, who am I to judge in reference to gay priests? The Pope understood communications very well, and he was very much in control of the message. He didn't change the catechism on contraception or on homosexuality, but he changed the people's perceptions of how important those teachings were.
And certainly, a lot of people concluded that it was a matter of private conscience. But his liberal leanings heightened division in the church. Whether he will be seen as very pivotal in terms of doctrine of the church, whether he was the first in a liberalizing trend or was an anomaly, history will have to tell. Cardinals are now meeting in preparation for the conclave, the secretive process by which they'll choose the next pope. Next pope. Are you watching closely, wondering what's happening in these meetings of cardinals?
I like to hope it's at least a healthy amount of curiosity and not too much. Anytime in my own heart I'm tempted to ever start to get concerned about how might this go, it's an opportunity to make an act of faith and invite the Lord to be in charge. At the Pontifical North American College, seminarians Robert Williams and Dominique Walters told us it's a quote beautiful testament to the church, that there's so much interest in its historic traditions, notably the conclave and the film that dramatized it. Is what's about to take place anything like what we saw in the conclave, the movie? Yeah, a lot of people I think want to see the church as being really shaped by the politics of the day. The movie has certainly gotten a lot of people interested in a papal election, but I think the truth is somehow much simpler and also so much more complex because it's the church isn't just a human institution. Catholics believe there is a divine component to this process and cardinals will soon gather in the Sistine Chapel to select the next pope.
About four-fifths of these princes of the church who will be voting were appointed by Francis and they'll weigh whether to cement or chip away at his legacy. What's up Hoop fans, I'm Ashley Nicole Moss and I'm bringing you Triple Threat, your weekly courtside pass to the most interesting moments and conversations in the NBA. From clutch performances to the stories shaping the game on and off the court, Triple Threat has you covered with it all. Culture, drama, and social media buzz, we're locked in just like you're locked in. Watch weekly on CBS Sports Network at 1 p.m eastern or on the CBS Sports YouTube channel as we break it all down fast and fresh.
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All right, so here we are, one of the elephants. 20 years ago this past week, YouTube co-founder Jawed Karim posted the very first YouTube video. And that's pretty much all there is to say. YouTube was so new, just what is YouTube anyway, that our Charles Osgood had to define it. YouTube is a website that lets just about anybody post videos for the whole world to see.
Today it doesn't need explaining. YouTube is the second most visited website on earth after Google, which bought YouTube for 1.65 billion dollars in 2006. Every single day, we collectively watch more than a billion hours of YouTube videos.
Funny videos, how-to videos, applying the alcohol to the stain with a spray bottle works well, cat videos. In these first 20 years, we've uploaded 20 billion videos to YouTube. This one is the most watched of all.
About 16 billion views. People watch YouTube more than they watch any other streaming service on their big screens in their living rooms now. You're saying people now watch YouTube on their TV sets more than they watch Netflix?
That's correct. David Craig teaches media and culture at the University of Southern California at Annenberg. He says that a key moment was the day YouTube started paying people for making videos. YouTube of course came along and said why don't we give you some advertising revenue in exchange for the fact that you're helping us grow our service. Today, YouTube roughly splits the ad revenue with the creator.
It does probably change a little bit for some of the bigger name players out there who they obviously need to make sure that they're very happy with the service. What's the best pasta in history? Let's talk about that. Those bigger name players include Rhett McLaughlin and Link Neal, creators of a daily show called Good Mythical Morning. Good Mythical Morning! 34 million subscribers have watched their shows 14 billion times.
Whoa, he's alive! Two old friends hanging out where you can be the third person in that friendship. We kind of stumbled upon this this secret formula for having people come back every single day. I think that they just put cameras up so that we don't run away. They may film in a traditional TV studio. What is the difference between what we're seeing here and the set of a TV show?
I'd like to say our talent. But there's a big difference between YouTube and TV. A big part of it is responding to the audience. You've got comments, right? So there's ways that you can connect with people online. Thank you so much for watching this video.
If you enjoyed it, please give it a thumbs up and comment below with what you want to see next. Creators on YouTube specifically are not content creators. They are for-profit community organizers. They are using this platform to build online communities that they can build a dozen different business models off of. You know, we've done a few different tours. We've written a few books. Sweatshirts and hoodies and magnets and pins and all kinds of ways for people to express their affinity for this community. And you can start to to go bigger and sell hair products.
Do you? Oh yeah. If we're going to spend as much time as we both spend on our hair, we are going to monetize it. We are now stranded on this deserted island.
Nobody's monetized it better than Jimmy Donaldson, better known as MrBeast. That concludes the tour. Whose videos of colossal giveaways turn around and look at your brand new home and physical challenges.
We are currently hundreds of feet in the air. Look at that. Have made him the most followed YouTuber of all. 380 million fans. I am going to start a five-hour timer. Last year, Amazon Prime spent a hundred million dollars to produce a MrBeast game show.
If I were you, I would run fast. Is being a YouTube star now considered a greater ambition than becoming a television star? I hate to tell you this David, but that's been the case now for over 10 years. They've been serving a lot of years. They've been surveying young people and they've all said they want to grow up to be a creator or an influencer more than a celebrity or I'm sorry to say a journalist.
I can't work like this. Close together guys. Brett and Link don't think that the advertising industry has quite caught up with YouTube's dominance. If you look at the 18 to 34 age group, we outperform all of the night shows combined. But if you look at revenue that's being spent on those shows versus our show, it's not quite there yet. And honestly, this is one of the reasons that we have really been interested in winning an Emmy.
Now we're as part of the cultural conversation as much as many shows that have won Emmys. Over the past two decades, YouTube has had its controversies. YouTube's detractors also worry about the algorithm.
It studies which videos seem to grab your attention and feeds you more videos like them. YouTube has been accused of letting the algorithm lead people to extreme viewpoints. We have this enormous diversity of opinions on our platform. We don't allow adult content.
We obviously don't allow spam and fraud and we have policies to protect young people and kids on the platform, but it's fundamentally a platform for freedom of speech. Well, I do have a YouTube channel. Neil Mohan is the CEO of YouTube. When you're a guest on somebody else's YouTube video, does that video get a spike in the numbers?
It definitively does not. Happy birthday, YouTube. So 20th anniversary. What are the next few years going to be like? One of the areas that I'm very excited about is artificial intelligence. You can tell YouTube when you're creating a video, put us in Central Park and change the background and have these types of birds because it's a spring day.
And that magical technology exists today. Is there something about evolution or psychology that makes us so interested in watching other people? I think it goes back to we as human beings are social beings. We connect with other people. We are storytellers.
That is what happens billions of times a day on YouTube and it's back to our mission. Give everyone a voice and show them the world. Double rainbow all the way across the sky. In American literary history, few novels have loomed as large as F. Scott Fitzgerald's 1925 classic, The Great Gatsby.
Lee Cowan takes us back in time. Dotting the water's edge of Long Island's Manhasset Bay, the opulence of the homes speaks for itself, but not nearly as well as F. Scott Fitzgerald once spoke of that opulence. A breeze blew through the room, blew curtains in at one end and out the other like pale flags, twisting them up toward the frosted wedding cake of the ceiling. That wedding cake of a ceiling likely did look down on Gatsby-esque parties back in the day. The bar is in full swing and floating rounds of cocktails permeate the garden outside until the air is alive with chatter and laughter and casual innuendo. I can almost hear the music playing and feel the spirits of, you know, the parties that went on here.
Fitzgerald lived in a much more modest house just a few miles away while he was writing The Great Gatsby. Elena and George Schiedinger, though, believe he must have visited here. They imagine him while tilting his head back to down a bootleg cocktail. Fitzgerald took note and then wrote their ceiling into his novel. I absolutely believe that to be true. That Fitzgerald was here?
Yeah. His novel came out a hundred years ago this month. Scholars consider it a literary masterpiece. Hollywood finds it irresistible.
How do you do, old sport? I'm Gatsby. And so does Broadway. There's even a recent graphic novel of Gatsby that brings Fitzgerald's characters to life. Starting with James Gatz, he believed he was too poor to marry the rich girl of his dreams. So he reinvents himself.
Afraid I haven't been a very good host, old sport. You see... I'm Gatsby. It's less about love and more about longing. His, especially, for Daisy Buchanan, just across the Bay. I don't want to go home.
And don't. They were so near and yet worlds apart. I hadn't realized that either side of the Bay was that they were so close to one another and that you really, I mean, you almost could look into the windows on the other side. That's Blake Hazard, the great granddaughter of Scott and Zelda Fitzgerald. That's her grandmother as a baby. They are celebrated relatives who she says are looming lovingly large on this centennial. I've gotten used to witnessing these kinds of things about my family, about my great-grandfather, with other people and sharing it.
And I think that feels right. Many, many places inspired Scott. Gatsby tours have become popular. This is where the Great Gatsby is set.
This one run by Kevin C. Fitzpatrick, an author and New York historian. There's a point where we're in the middle of Manhasset Bay and you can look to the left to West Egg and to the right to East Egg and people, it just clicks because they can picture that green light on that dock. Few of those mansions remain.
Most never survive the Great Depression, torn down to make room for the new. But back in Manhattan, some of the Gatsby lore remains, especially here at the Plaza Hotel. There's a story that Zelda would come in here and just go around and around and around. It was a temple to the times where important people did important things, including Blake's great-grandparents. They both really wanted to be in the world, of the world, writing about what they saw, chronicling it all, and having a good time doing it.
And having a great time doing it. The Fitzgeralds were not wealthy themselves. While they did enjoy money, they were amused with its perils too. They were careless people, Tom and Daisy.
They smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money, or their vast carelessness, or whatever it was that kept them together. He was drawn to these things, but also very much an observer of them. Felt very outside of, certainly of the wealthy set. He did rub elbows with the wealthy set at Princeton.
Although he later dropped out, his papers found their way back. Let's take a look. Oh wow. Including the only surviving handwritten manuscript of Gatsby. Here we have entire, you know, half a page scribbled out. The whole book is like this.
Emma Sarcone is a rare book librarian at Princeton's Special Collections at the Firestone Library. He was very exacting as to what he wanted the book to be. At the time Fitzgerald was coming off two big hits, and he believed that Gatsby would surpass both of them. But Gatsby landed with a thud. How many copies did it originally sell? Less than 20,000. Geez.
Yeah. How did he react to the mixed reviews? He was devastated. He wrote a letter to his daughter Scottie, sort of in his final years, lamenting the fact that none of her friends would know who he was.
So what changed? The times, perhaps. During World War II, the newly formed Council on Books in Wartime shipped millions of pocket-sized books to keep the troops entertained overseas. This copy is relatively small. Including 155,000 copies of The Great Gatsby. We wouldn't be talking about this book today if this edition hadn't come out. Fitzgerald died long before that, at the age of 44. At that point, he thought he was a failure. He had really fallen into obscurity. Famously, very few people attended his funeral. And yet today, Gatsby rubs dust jackets with the likes of Jane Austen, Steinbeck, and Hemingway.
For many, The Great Gatsby is indeed the great American novel. It sounds silly, but I wish Scott could be here. I just think he'd be so thrilled. Yeah, and surprised, probably, right? And surprised.
Certainly surprised. Among the few keepsakes that Blake has are her great-grandmother's necklace, given to Zelda by Scott, as well as this ring. Coincidence the stone is green? Well, we'll never know. Gatsby believed in the green light. That haunting green light blinks for all of us. Dreams, perfection, whatever eludes us, we still keep trying.
So we beat on, boats against the current, born back ceaselessly into the past. But that's weird. Okay, one judgment.
Anyway, give it a try at mintmobile.com. After winning more Super Bowls than any coach in NFL history, Bill Belichick is both documenting his stellar football career and launching its newest chapter. He's talking with Tony DeCopel.
Coach, thank you for doing this. You're probably thinking the same thing I was when I sat down with Bill Belichick. What's going on with this sweatshirt? Well, you can see I've worn this one for a while. Do you remember how you got the cut here?
No. Tattered and, yes, often sleeveless, Belichick's signature look is part of his singular focus. As he writes in a new book, he's motivated not by style or fame, but by the obvious.
The Patriots in the greatest comeback in Super Bowl history. So why, before the career is over, would you write a book called The Art of Winning? You're still out there practicing the art.
Well, I never really had a good chance to do that before. So I tried to capture some of the ups and downs and the preparation and the dealing with star players and the big moments. You wanted to give back to football, you write, some of what football has given to you.
Absolutely. It's given him a whole lot over a 50-year career. And the Patriots are Super Bowl champions. Second all-time in NFL victories. The New England Patriots have won the Super Bowl for the third time in four years.
Including a record six Super Bowl titles as head coach of the New England Patriots. What does that feel like in the shower of confetti? It feels like a lifetime achievement. It feels like you've worked your whole life to get to that point. And honestly, when you win one, you try to savor the moment. Because in the back of your mind, you're kind of thinking, I don't know if I'll ever be here again. But on this recent trip back to his old high school in Annapolis, Maryland.
A lot of good memories here and remember some of the things that you learned. Of course, you thought you knew it all then. The now 73-year-old former NFL coach wasn't interested in gloating about his many achievements. Where did this title come from? The publisher, a couple other advisors on the book.
That was really their choice. My choice would have been how I did my job or lessons from my life in football. The result is not a tell-all, but what you might call a tell-some. You write about not cheerleading on the sideline, but also you're against the inspirational locker room speech at halftime. Coach, have you not seen the movies? I haven't seen them. Yeah, I wouldn't say I'm not against them. I would just say I've seen very few that were really worthy of a strong mention or changed the direction of the team or the game.
There have been very few. Most of it really is strategic. What are they doing?
What do we need to adjust to that? That's really what football is, identifying a problem, figuring a solution, and then executing that plan to make it work. Football is everything for Belichick. His father, Steve, a beloved assistant at Navy for more than three decades, made sure of that. I was an only child. You know, I followed my dad around. If he had been a fireman, I'd probably have been a fireman. He was a football coach, and so I hung around him, and I did whatever he did. But what did you love about that? Because plenty of sons run in the other direction. Yeah, well, I think a big part of it was the respect and adoration that they had for him.
It seemed very rewarding. When young Billy went looking for a coaching job of his own, though, dad had some advice. You're never going to make any money coaching. You need to go to business school.
You need to get a job. He discouraged you. He was being real. But the National Football League soon realized there was something special about this coach's kid.
And by the year 2000, Patriots owner Robert Kraft hired Belichick to turn the team into a dynasty, which he did, finding perhaps the best quarterback of all time with the 199th pick of the 2000 draft. What did you see in Tom Brady that everybody else missed? Because he wasn't the fastest. He wasn't the strongest. He didn't blow you away with his athleticism.
Well, two things, really. He was accurate, and he was a very good decision maker. He got better every single day. As he got better, you got better.
Did you build off of each other? Absolutely, yeah. One area where they are clearly different is with the media. Brady seems at ease in the spotlight. People have a lot of questions. Belichick does not. You heard what Robert just said. It's already been addressed.
Maybe I got to go back and look at your notes. Well, I understand they have a tough job. On the other side of that, as a coach, you know, you have a job to do, too. There's times where I could have been more accommodating. I admit that. You just got to turn the page and move forward as much as they want to dig deeper and deeper and deeper into the grave and see what more is down there.
At some point, you just got to, you know, look ahead and move on. It's also been a momentous year for Belichick. He was named head coach of the University of North Carolina, the result of a messy split from Robert Kraft and the Patriots in early 2024. He's got a cold, so I'm not going to kiss him.
I have to ask about Robert Kraft, because 24 years together, six Super Bowls. Unless I'm wrong, he's not in this book. How come? He's not.
Well, again, it's about my life lessons in football, and it's really more about the ones that I experienced directly. He's not even in the acknowledgment section. Correct. Do you feel like you were treated with dignity and respect when you were let go by Robert Kraft? Yeah, well, it was a mutual decision for us to part ways. He said fired. It was a mutual decision. The other change for Belichick is 24-year-old Jordan Hudson, his creative muse, as he writes in his book. Jordan was a constant presence during our interview.
You have Jordan right over there. Everybody in the world seems to be following this relationship. They've got an opinion about your private life.
It's got nothing to do with them, but they're invested in it. How do you deal with that? Never been too worried about what everybody else thinks.
Just try to do what I feel like is best for me and what's right. How did you guys meet? Not talking about this. No? No.
It's a topic neither one of them is comfortable commenting on, though Hudson has recently posted about it on Instagram. You join Instaface, as you put it. I love that. There's some great pictures of you and Jordan, where you're a fisherman, and she's a mermaid. It's charming. It's a different side of you. What's the reaction been like?
What's it been like? To have these different sort of photos. There's another one where you're doing, I know you're not into meditation or yoga or pilates.
You're balancing Jordan on your feet, and she's doing kind of the Titanic pose. Yeah, so I'm on some of those social media platforms, but I honestly don't follow them. What he does follow isn't clicks or views, but touchdowns and above all, wins. You do seem like you're having a lot more fun these days than you were in other chapters of your life, let's say. I enjoy football. I enjoy the whole process of it. It's hard to win, but it's hard to win. I enjoy football, I enjoy the whole process of it, it's hard to win, and it's hard to beat other good coaches, good teams. I appreciate the grind. I appreciate the competition.
But coaching is fun, and honestly, I feel like I haven't worked a day in my life. It's been 50 years since the final days of the war in Vietnam. David Martin now with some of the men who bore witness to the fall of Saigon.
And people poured from behind buildings and revetments. This is what the end of the Vietnam War looked like. South Vietnamese soldiers swarming a Pan Am airliner to save themselves from the rapidly advancing North Vietnamese army. They left their wives, their children, their aged parents on the runway while they forced their own way on board, a rabble of young enlisted men.
CBS News correspondent Bruce Dunning was on board. The plane raced down the taxiway swerving to avoid abandoned vehicles, perhaps even running over people. This every man for himself route played out across South Vietnam as communist forces from the north launched their final offensive.
The question was not will they attack at some point, but when will they do it? Now 83, Stuart Harrington was one of only a handful of American military personnel still left in Vietnam. The map in my office began to show more and more red arrows all pointing south. President Gerald R. Ford called South Vietnam's collapse a great human tragedy and ordered the immediate airlift of Vietnamese orphans. Some of those put aboard the plane had been born only weeks ago. CBS News correspondent Murray Frompson witnessed what happened next. The huge plane crashed into a field about five miles from the end of the runway. 78 orphans and 35 Americans were killed.
What can one say except when will the misery in this country ever stop? With Vietnam rapidly approaching what Secretary of State Henry Kissinger called the worst case, he cabled American Ambassador Graham Martin, we must evacuate our people and do so as soon as possible. Americans and Vietnamese flooded Tan Son Nhut Airport outside Saigon, but enemy shelling killed two Marines standing guard there, Darwin Judge and Charles McMahon, the last Americans to die in Vietnam. The North Vietnamese bombed and rocketed the runway at Tan Son Nhut so the runway became unusable.
Retired Marine Jerry Berry was a helicopter pilot aboard the Armada of American ships off the coast. Helicopter the last resort and at 1045 on the morning of 29 April 1975, Ambassador Graham Martin gave the order to commence Operation Frequent Wind, which became the largest helicopter evacuation in history. Frantic to find a way out, civilians mobbed the U.S. Embassy. The last place, the last hope, the last refuge where you could go and maybe still get a helicopter. There were women at the gates just saying, please just take my baby, take my baby. And we had to tell them, we cannot take your baby. Jerome Thomas was a Marine Guard at the Embassy. There were people that were getting crushed because of the crowd in the back were pushing. You know, the crowd inside the Embassy grounds is just huge and it's never getting any smaller.
You don't know how this thing is working, how it's going to end. That's Berry's helicopter landing in the Embassy parking lot. I actually landed at the Embassy about one o'clock and said my orders are to pick up the Ambassador.
The Marine Security Guard runs into the Embassy, comes back and says, well, the Ambassador is not ready to go. Instead, Berry and 70 other helicopter crews began lifting out Americans in Vietnamese. Berry's call sign was Lady Ace 09.
And here's his voice from 50 years ago. This is Lady Ace 09, roger. We're offline this time with our passengers. As darkness fell, Jerome Thomas was ordered to lower the American flag. This was the last time the American flag was going to fly over Vietnam. 19-year-old Marine takes down the flag for the last time.
Heartbreaking. America's war in Vietnam was now in its final hours. Now it's probably somewhere around four in the morning. I can see the tanks coming down the road. You could see the tanks. North Vietnamese tanks because their lights are on.
They're driving down the highway. Everybody was afraid. The North Vietnamese Army was advancing on Saigon. Everybody knew. These were the last birds.
These were the freedom birds. Okay, let's pick it up here. Looks like things are about to close up and we want to be able to give them the support they need.
Go ahead and max it out. That's Harrington maxing it out in the Embassy parking lot. Get into a double line. Everybody's going to go. Nobody will be left behind. I repeated that over and over and over that everyone was going to go. And I really believed it. They want everybody in the Embassy, Robert.
Put everybody in and get in there. That's the last picture taken of me in Vietnam. It looks like a man who knows it's over.
Yeah, there was no doubt about it. There were 420 Vietnamese still in the parking lot when new orders came in. You are to land on the rooftop and deliver a message. I say again to deliver a message.
All U.S. must come out now. Harrington had promised nobody left behind. But orders were orders. I said to the Vietnamese, I got to take a leak. And I walked into the door of the Embassy and scooted up the stairs. What did it feel like telling that lie?
I felt horrible. I felt like I'd given them my word. That our country had given them our country's word.
And it all went to crap. I land on the Embassy roof at 456 in the morning on 30 April 1975. And I called the Marine Security Guard over and I said, you go tell the Ambassador this helicopter's not leaving the roof until he's on board. And then my best aviator voice, I said, the President sends. Order from the President. Did you have authority?
I have no authority to do that at all. But, I mean, there's got to be an end here. Two minutes later, his whole entourage are up. They're ready to go. Ambassador Graham Martin brought the American flag with him. So now I'm flying out and, of course, I do the call sign Tiger, Tiger, Tiger, which means the Ambassador's out, so everybody knows. It was late afternoon in Washington when Henry Kissinger announced the news. Our Ambassador has left and the evacuation can be said to be completed. Except it wasn't. Here's Kissinger giving an off-the-record talk to the Army War Corps.
Seen here for the first time. Come back from the press conference and I find out that they had left the Marines behind. They were guarding the embassy. The last American fighting men in Vietnam were barricaded on the roof as Saigon was about to fall. It's been so many years now. Their Sergeant, Juan Valdez, is 87 now and living in a memory carrier.
But some things you don't forget. We thought for sure that we were going to be left there, kind of swallow hearts, you know, because by that time the tanks were passing by from the Vietnamese. It felt like the Alamo for a while.
Doug Potratz was on the roof with Valdez. We didn't know if we were going to be the last people and be on the roof. If we were going to be the last people and be overrun. The question that was going through everybody's mind was should we fight or should we surrender? And everybody there too, man, was like, we're fighting.
You know, because Marines never surrender. It was the lowest point, I think, in my life. We're thinking about all the people that have died.
Literally thousands and thousands of Americans. And it was all gone. We were there for two, two and a half, maybe three hours of waiting. And then all of a sudden at a distance we saw two choppers coming back. Sir, there are 33 to 35 more Americans on top of that embassy for you to take out. Two helicopters went back for the Marines.
The first one picked up 22 and the second the final 11. Eleven tanks on board, including the commander. All the Americans are out. That is it.
This blurry picture captured the moment. I was the last one to go aboard. Why were you the last one? Because I was in charge of them. And whether I stayed behind, so be it, you know.
But you always take care of your men first. The last man out. The last man out, yeah.
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All episodes now streaming on Paramount+. It's Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Jane Pauley. That's one of the songs that helped launch entertainer Bobby Darin's career. Darin would go on to record some of the most beloved hits of the 50s and 60s. His colorful yet tragic story is the subject of a new Broadway musical.
We hear all about it from Mo Rocca. Bobby Darin was a major pop star. A singer, dancer, musician, and an Oscar nominee. He was the entertainer who did it all except Broadway.
Until now. He was at the height of his powers when he was on the floor of a nightclub with the audience in the palm of his hand. Tony award winner Jonathan Groff plays the icon of the late 1950s and 60s in the musical Just in Time. For Darin, a live audience was Oxygen. So too for Groff.
You can feel this vibration between performer and audience members. To me the most essential thing to ignite in the telling of his story. It's taken seven years and a whole lot of sweat to bring the show to Broadway. The casting of Jonathan Groff, beloved for his roles on stage and as Kristoff in the Frozen movies might not seem obvious. Groff grew up on a horse farm in Pennsylvania Mennonite country.
Darin was a scrappy Italian kid from the Bronx. Who did you like listening to when you were growing up? Okay, so the first thing is like I'm in fourth or fifth grade like on the computer or Nintendo in the basement blasting Ethel Merman Annie Get Your God. Right, so this is the 1990s probably. Yes, yeah the 1990s. You're playing something from the 1940s.
Exactly. Likewise, Bobby Darin was an old soul says his son Dodd Darin. He admired, he loved, he respected the old timers. He loved that era of show business. That's what he related to. That may have had something to do with the woman who raised him. Polly his mother was an old vaudevillian and she nurtured him and said you can't play stickball in the street and you can't roughhouse with kids because he was frail and sickly but you can learn to sing. You can learn to dance.
You can learn play piano and it opened a whole world. Fraile and sickly was no exaggeration. Born Walden Robert Casado, Darin suffered several bouts of rheumatic fever as a child permanently damaging his heart. When he was a boy he overheard a family doctor say that he wouldn't live past his teenage years.
Put yourself in that position. So he was ambitious, he was driven, he was always on the go. He was trying to jam it all in because he knew he didn't have time. A sort of Damocles hangover.
I say that a lot, exact term. With no time to waste he began writing songs and at 22 Bobby Darin made waves with his recording of Splish Splash. Splish Splash, I was taking a bath on about a Saturday night.
I well up, rubbed up, just relaxing in the tub, thinking everything was alright. Not one to play it safe for his second album in 1959, Darin took a dark ballad from the German three penny opera and made it swing. When my dad took Mac the Knife before it was released and had Dick Clark listen to it, he said, why are you doing this? This is going to bomb.
It won the Grammy for record of the year and became the biggest hit of Darin's career. The next year he was on his way to Italy to make his motion picture debut opposite America's sweetheart, Sandra Dee. Isn't that strange? What? Your pulse, it suddenly started to race.
Hit it right off. She hated me and I loved her and that was it. The teen idol married the teen movie star in December of 1960 and welcomed their son, Dodd, a year later. You wrote, my father made his destiny. Destiny made my mother.
What did you mean by that? Well, my mom went through a lot. Never really wanted fame. She really didn't crave it.
It just sort of happened. Unlike my dad who loved performing, loved show business. Dee was looking for a home life, says Dodd Darin, but Bobby Darin wasn't ready to slow down.
The marriage ended after six years. Darin never stopped playing the clubs. Is it true that Sammy Davis Jr. said that your father was the one person he wouldn't want to have to follow?
Absolutely true. And my dad idolized Sammy. I thought he was so terrific, I phoned him and told him. The feeling was mutual as seen in this 1959 broadcast of This Is Your Life. We were exchanging ideas back and forth.
You know, I'd be doing a move and in Washington, DC, a girl said, you're stealing from Bobby Darin. Also featured during the episode, Nina, the woman Darin thought was his sister. But almost a decade later, he would learn a long held family secret.
Nina was, in fact, Bobby's mother, having given birth to him out of wedlock as a teenager, which made Polly the woman he thought was his mother, his grandmother. He was never the same. He said that his whole life was a lie.
He just seems like a fraud. It's just devastating. There's no sugarcoating it. Looking at that tape today, says Dodd Darin.
It all seems obvious. That's a mother's love. Yes. Yes. Yes. That's not a sister.
Yes. So that's the adulation of my son, but you can't say it. Thank you, Mr. and Mrs. Charles Maffey.
Nina and Charles of Lake Hiawatha, New Jersey. So you were seven years old when your father found out. Can you remember a change in your father from that time?
Yes. I'm not going to say it's directly attributed to that incident. I'm sure that's part of it. But he got into the Bob Darin stage. You know, he took off his toupee, no more tuxedo, started doing folk music, protest music, writing music, and dropped out of show business for a while. And that was some of the best times I had with him. He was a regular dude.
We were up in Big Sur in a trailer, hanging out, and yeah. He let his hair down, if you will. It was good times.
Come and sing a simple song of freedom. In December of 1973, Bobby Darin's heart finally gave out. He was 37. Dodd had just turned 12. Now 63, Dodd Darin is grateful that with the new Broadway show, a new generation can learn the story of his life.
That with the new Broadway show, a new generation can learn the story of his father. It's so beautiful that all these years later, he's been gone. Over 50 years.
Over 50 years. We're here talking about him. We're remembering him.
He did something right. Thank you very much. Good night.
Have a good life. Earlier, David Martin told us about the fall of Saigon. But for some, the end of the war in Vietnam began a surprising new chapter.
Here's historian Douglas Brinkley. 50 years ago, when the city of Saigon fell and the U.S. military intervention in Southeast Asia came to an end, President Gerald Ford faced a choice. Many anti-communist South Vietnamese feared forced relocation and political persecution at home and looked to America for refuge. But the American public was bitterly divided over whether to accept such a large influx of refugees. On Capitol Hill, the mail is overwhelmingly hostile to the refugees. One letter from Nebraska reads, they bring only disease, corruption, and apathy.
The U.S. unemployment rate sat at nearly 9 percent, a post-World War II high. To many, bringing destitute Vietnamese to American shores seemed nonsensical. But President Ford saw the issue in stark moral terms. There are tens of thousands of other South Vietnamese intellectuals, professors, teachers, editors, and opinion leaders who have supported the South Vietnamese cause and the alliance with the United States, to whom we have a profound moral obligation. Ford ordered several airlifts to extract 130,000 South Vietnamese refugees and asylum seekers. He signed into law a bill securing relocation aid and financial assistance, and he corralled a coalition of religious groups, southern democratic governors, and labor leaders to secure their housing and employment. At first, many of the new refugees relied on public assistance and took low-paying jobs.
But in the years that followed, most gained employment and their reliance on government aid declined. They became small business owners and pillars of community, contributors large and small to the American tapestry. Among them, federal judges, a Pulitzer Prize-winning novelist, and even an Oscar-winning actor.
My journey started on a boat. I spent a year in a refugee camp, and somehow, I ended up here on Hollywood's biggest stage. Ford's decision to welcome these refugees wasn't just the right thing to do, it was smart. He realized that in a nation of immigrants like ours, strength derives in large part from diversity.
His leadership showed compassion, political courage, and moral clarity, qualities our leaders could use today more than ever. Thank you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning. See what's keeping hope alive for the people and polar bears of a warming Arctic. Watch the WCCO original on The Edge now on the WCCO YouTube channel. Listen to On Fire, the official Survivor podcast, with me, Jeff Kropst, every Wednesday after the show, wherever you get your podcasts.
