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President Donald Trump is scheduled to join a remembrance ceremony at the Pentagon coming up a little bit later on this morning. We flash back twenty five years, September the eleventh, two thousand one. That is when nineteen al Qaeda terrorists hijacked four passenger planes abroad here in the United States, flying two into the World Trade Center Towers in Lower Manhattan and one into the Pentagon. The fourth plane passengers fought back aboard United Airlines Flight 93 before it crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania. The attacks in total killed 2,977 people, excluding the hijackers, including 343 New York City firefighters, 23 New York City police officers, and 37 members of the Port Authority Police Department.
The president and the commander-in-chief in Donald Trump is expected to attend a ceremony at the Pentagon rather than the observance at Ground Zero, where the Vice President in J.D. Vance will be making his way to the Big Apple for ceremonies taking place later on this morning. Friday's ceremonies follow the president's September the 8th observance at the Ellipse, where he appeared with first responders, Gold Star families, and the Tunnel to Towers Foundation, which of course has been very prominent over the last 25 years. years. The ceremony earlier this week featured a 21-foot steel beam recovered from the south tower of the twin of the Twin Towers as part of the foundations, that's the Tunnel to Towers Foundation's Steel Across America tour, serving as a reminder of the courage exhibited that day.
At Tuesday's event earlier this week, the president awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to an individual by the name of Wellis Crowler, the 24-year-old victim remembered as the man in the red bandana. The president also announced that the Coast Guard will name a fast response cutter for Jeffrey Palazzo, an FDNY firefighter and Coast Guard reservist who was killed at the World Trade Centers. The president said on Tuesday during the event at the ellipse, on 9-11, nearly 3,000 precious souls were stolen from us. killed by evil terrorists at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and on Flight 93. All of these years later, we gather on another Tuesday morning in September to reaffirm the sacred vow we made a quarter century ago, we will never forget.
Earlier this week, Trump formally proclaimed September the 11th, 2026 as Patriot Day and directed federal departments and agencies to lower U.S. flags to half staff in honor of the 2,977 victims. Congress designated September the 11th as Patriot Day in December of 2001, just months after the attack. Trump also invited governors, organizations, and individuals to participate in the observance. Yesterday, Governor Josh Stein here in North Carolina ordered flags to be lowered in honor of Patriot Day.
The governor in Stein is scheduled to attend the North Carolina National Guards Memorial Ceremony that is happening a Friday morning at the Joint Force headquarters in Raleigh. He will later join the city of Raleigh and the nonprofit Activate Good for a 9-11 day service and remote. Remembrance. The governor said in the statement announcing the flags flying at a half-staff, this year, during America's 250th year, we cherish what it means to be an American, to love freedom, justice, security, democracy, and peace. Let us honor the memories of our heroes, the brave passengers of Flight 93, the firefighters who rushed towards danger as people ran for their lives, and the neighbors who helped their neighbors through unthinkable tragedy.
And let us remember that there is more than unites us, than divides us. America is strongest when we stand together.
Now, bear with me. There are a series of events taking place across North Carolina today. We've got the full list over on our website, CarolinaJournal.com, but I'm going to read through all of them. We'll start at Fort Bragg, which hosted a 9-11 stair challenge yesterday at Hedrick Stadium. A tunnel to towers climb is scheduled at 8 a.m.
Saturday at 150 Fayetteville Street in downtown Raleigh, while the Charlotte 9-11 Memorial Stair Climb is also happening Saturday at the Bank of America Corporate Center in Uptown Charlotte.
Some of the events happening today, I encourage you to get out to as many of these as possible. Obviously, depending on where you live across North Carolina, we'll start in the western half of the state as Asheville will be hosting a 25th anniversary ceremony that is scheduled for 8:45 this morning outside the Asheville Municipal Building at 100 Court Plaza. The program includes the Asheville Fire Department's Honor Guard, a Mobile Of silence, a ceremonial of bell ringing, and remarks from local leaders. Heading on over to the Triangle, the UNC Army ROTC at Chapel Hill will host a public memorial stair climb. That will start at 6 a.m.
at Keenan Memorial Stadium. Participants will climb 2,071 stairs. That will be in tribute to the 2,977 victims and first responders who served that day. In Fugue Verina, the town's remembrance ceremony will begin at 8.30 at their art center. That's 123 East Advance Street.
And in Clayton, a public ceremony starts at 9 o'clock. At the municipal park, the program includes an honor guard, bell tolling, and 423 small flags representing 343 firefighters, 72 law enforcement officials, and eight emergency medical personnel members killed during the attacks. In the triad, gates at the over in Greensboro, gates at the first National Bank Field open at 5 p.m., followed by a ceremonial program at 5.30 this evening and a memorial stair climb at 6 p.m. First responders and members of the public will climb in remembrance of the 343 FDNY firefighters killed at the World Trade Center. In the eastern half of the state, in Castlehain, that's not far outside of the Wilmington area, Cape Fear Community College will hold a ceremony at 8.30 at its North Campus Safety Training Center.
That's at 4,500 Blue Clay Road. The program will include retired New York City police officers, a wreath-lang, and firefighter tradition known as striking of the four fives. In Jacksonville, the city, Onslow County, and the Marine base, obviously in there in Camp Lejeune, will hold an observance at 8.15 at the 9-11 Memorial Beam. That is in the Lejeune Memorial Gardens. The ceremony will feature the Honor Guard, a 2D Marine Division band, and student musicians.
Organizers say this year's program will focus on the victims and members of the post-9-11 military generation from North Carolina. In Havelock, a ceremony will begin there at 8.40. That will run until 9.30 at the city's 9-11 Memorial. That is at a U.S. 70 and Cunningham Boulevard.
In New Bern, a remembrance program begins at 8.42 a.m. at the New Bern Fireman's Museum Memorial Park. That is on Broad Street. It will include a color guard, bagpipes, and the last alarm bell ceremony, which is a silent first responder parade that is scheduled for later this evening at 7.30 p.m. In Moorhead City, Carteret Community College will hold a public ceremony at 8.45 this morning behind the McGee building.
That will be taking place there. In Kinston, a remembrance service is scheduled for 9 a.m. at Granger Stadium. And finally, Goldsboro at the Wayne County Community College. They are set to hold their annual tribute stairclim at 9 a.m.
at the Magnolia Building. Public safety students and first responders will climb the equivalent of 78 flights. Those are some of the events. Trying to do our best to grab all of those and put those over on our website taking place today on this 25th anniversary of 9-11. Pretty wild to believe, but Americans born after the attacks are now adults, marking the 25th anniversary, not only as a commemoration of the events, but also an effort to preserve first-hand accounts of people who have no living memory of September the 11th, 2001.
born before this day, 25 years ago. We've got the full list of all of the events over on our website this morning, CarolinaJournal.com. We encourage you to attend as many of those as possible as North Carolina marks 25 years since the September the 11th, 2001 terror attacks on our nation. For most students, math class moves at the wrong pace.
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Welcome back to the Carolina Journal News Hour, Charlotte's FM News Talk 107.9 FM. WBT tracking some pretty big news across North Carolina this morning as the state and 11 local governments and/or government entities have reached a settlement with Camours and DuPont over forever chemicals contamination tied to the Fayetteville Works plant and to PFAS containing a firefighting foam used in North Carolina. The settlement was announced yesterday by Attorney General Jeff Jackson and states that the companies will pay $455 million over a 15-year period of time to resolve claims brought by the state of North Carolina and those local entities. Those include Bladen County, Brunswick, Columbus, Cumberland, New Hanover, Robeson, and Sampson counties, as well as the town of Wrightsville Beach, the city of Lumber. The village of Ballhead Island and the Lower Cape Fear Water and Sewer Authority.
The Attorney General and Jeff Jackson said in a press release: Camours and DuPont devastated North Carolina's water and natural resources for decades. This deal forces them to pay for the harm they caused to the people of southeastern North Carolina and gives our local governments more resources to help ensure clean drinking water for families. The Attorney General discussed the agreement Thursday at the Battleship North Carolina in Wilmington with the backdrop of the Cape Fear River. This is what the Attorney General had to say about the settlement. Today, we are announcing.
the largest environmental damage payment in the history of North Carolina. This is going to be a settlement worth nearly $600 million to help make sure that our drinking water is clean. This is about PFAS. And as you know, This part of our state has suffered from major contamination because of a chemical plant outside of Fayetteville that knowingly discharged. P-Fast Forever chemicals into the air and the water for years.
They knew what they were doing. They were dishonest about it. And now. They are facing serious accountability. That's the Attorney General and Jeff Jackson.
Yesterday in Wilmington, DuPont operated the Fayetteville work site in Bladen County for decades before spinning Como's off in 2015. That is currently the operator. The state officials have said that Comoz discharged PFAS, including the forever chemical Gen X, into the Cape Fear River, a drinking water source for hundreds of thousands of people downstream, including the Wilmington area. North Carolina began pursuing damages after elevated PFAS levels were documented in the Cape Fear River in 2017. The state sued Como's DuPont and related companies in 2020, seeking damages for the harm to drinking water and other natural resources.
A 2019 consent order already required Comoors to reduce discharges, test private wells throughout the region, and provide replacement water in surrounding communities. The Attorney General. The general went on to describe some of the details in this settlement. Not only do we have a settlement worth nearly $600 million, the largest environmental payment for damages in the history of the state, but it is at least 20 times what the EPA got for our state. I'm going to go through the three basic parts of the settlement right now.
First and most importantly, is direct payments to the local communities that were impacted. of the nearly 600 million. 380 are allocated to go directly to the local communities who were most impacted. That was very important to us. that the biggest slice of the pie Go to the communities.
that have been suffering the longest because of this drinking water contamination. Then there's a $75 million allocation to the state. 55 of which will be going to the PFAS Contamination Fund, which the state legislature very wisely created recently in anticipation of a settlement like this. And then The third piece is a $135 million reserve fund funded by DePont. This is very important.
This builds on the existing court order. that has been put in place against Kimores to force them. to clean up the mess that they created. That court order has forced Kimores to spend $1.2 billion and counting. to clean up this mess.
But we know that there is a real risk of bankruptcy with Kimoris. Which is why one of our priorities in putting together the settlement was making sure that if Kim Moore's is no longer able to make the payments to clean up their mess, That DuPont. We'll be on the hook. We were able to get that done in this deal, and that is a big deal for southeastern North Carolina. That is Attorney General Jeff Jackson announcing some of the details.
$455 million payout, $380 million to the 11 local groups that we just went through, $75 million to the state of North Carolina for that PFAS cleanup fund, and on top of that, a $135 million reserve fund to cover future drinking water protections and cleanup efforts across southeastern North Carolina, bringing that total number of dollars to close to $600 million. The Attorney General focused a lot on the local communities that have been fighting this battle now for the better part of a decade, back going back to 2017, when news reports and studies started showing these high levels of PFAS, Gen X, and other forever chemicals in the Cape Fear River basin and other waterways throughout the region. At the event in Wilmington yesterday, Leanne Pierce, the chairwoman of the New Hanover. County Board of Commissioners talked about the local impact in New Hanover County. New Hanover County sued Camorris because this community has lived with PFAS in our river, our groundwater.
and private wells and because somebody had to hold this company accountable. The lawsuit was never simply about money. It was about accountability. and doing what was right for the people of New Hanover County. Today, this settlement ranged $22.8 million to New Hanover County over 10 years.
The board intends to use those funds to address the problem itself. providing clean drinking water, and addressing PFOS contamination here at home, starting with the people who rely on private wells who have carried this burden the longest. Let me be clear what this settlement is and isn't about. It addresses Kimur's past conduct. It does not give Como's a pass for anything it does going forward.
We will continue pressing the state to hold the company accountable to the highest level. Cape Fear Public Utility Authority's case is separate and it continues. I want to thank Attorney Attorney General Jeff Jackson and his team for seeing this case through. I want to thank Covernor Stein, who filed this lawsuit while he was serving as Attorney General, for beginning this fight and standing with the people of New Hanover County. This settlement is an important step, but it is not the end.
We will keep working to protect our water, support affected residents, and hold polluters accountable. Again, it is a great day for New Hanover County, and we thank you all for being here. That is Leanne Pierce, the chairwoman of the New Hanover County Board of Commissioners, the announcement from Attorney General Jeff Jackson, the largest environmental damage payment in the history of North Carolina. We are keeping a very close eye on this story, and we will do so in the months and years to come over on our website, CarolinaJournal.com. A big part of parenting today is figuring out which technology will help your kid and which might hurt them.
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Welcome back to the Carolina Journal News Hour, Charlotte's FM News Talk 107.9 FM. WBT, I'm Nick Craig. A good Friday morning to you. Back in 2024, then Attorney General, now Governor Josh Stein filed legal action here in North Carolina against TikTok, the incredibly popular social media app. There's been a lot of discussion, not only here in North Carolina, but across the United States over the last couple of years about TikTok and their parent company, ByteDance.
It's a very interesting discussion to walk us through oral arguments that happened at the state's highest court this week. Mitch Kokei from the John Locke Foundation joins us on the Carolina Journal News Hour. Mitch, as I understand some of the details in this case, which is now being, of course, played out by current Attorney General Jeff Jackson, was filed by now Governor Josh Stein, then AG Josh Stein. Deals with some of the business. Business practices as it relates to TikTok and bite dance.
You had the opportunity to sit through those oral arguments this week. What did you take away from it?
Well, we really didn't get a whole lot into the merits or the meat of the case itself, but the case is basically North Carolina suing TikTok and ByteDance over the way that it operates. And from the state government's perspective, preys on children, preys on young people in North Carolina using the algorithm to get people addicted to TikTok and spending all their time on TikTok and basically hurting them in multiple ways, hurting their mental development and doing other things that hurt North Carolina children and families, according to state government. That is the crux of the legal argument from the state. But what the state Supreme Court was dealing with mostly. Was whether North Carolina's Attorney General has the right to sue.
TikTok and bite dance over those practices in a North Carolina court. And basically, the argument from the state is yes. TikTok operates in this state. It has particularly operated in this state by sending notifications to its customers who live here, by, in other respects, also dealing with parent-teacher organizations in North Carolina, sending them information saying that TikTok is safe for kids and spending money to try to get people in North Carolina to sign up to the app.
Meanwhile, on the other side, TikTok was arguing that no, this is not a suit that could play out in North Carolina if North Carolina state government wanted to sue TikTok. For the items that it's alleging that TikTok has done that break the law, they have to sue in California. That's where TikTok is based, that's where TikTok's home is, and that is the proper venue for this suit.
Now, an interesting response from the special deputy attorney general who was representing the state, it wasn't Jeff Jackson himself. I kind of thought maybe he might want to argue this case at the state Supreme Court, but he didn't. He had a special deputy AG, Josh Abram, arguing the case. And Abram said, Well, it's interesting that TikTok wants us to sue them in California or maybe in China, which is something the TikTok lawyer never said, but something the North Carolina lawyer threw out the special deputy AG threw out there and said, Maybe they want to sue us to California or China, but here in North Carolina, we can decide what our own laws are and what the proper forum is. And he basically said, This is the proper forum because you're talking about damn.
damages to North Carolina children and to North Carolina families. And the North Carolina courts are exactly the proper forum for this.
So it will be very interesting to see where the state Supreme Court comes down on this.
Now, I can say, because it's happened in other states and the arguments in North Carolina included this, that TikTok and ByteDance, you might not be surprised, are fighting similar cases in other states. And the special deputy attorney general, who is representing the state in this case, says TikTok and Byte Dance have made these arguments in other states and they've always failed.
So they're having to fight these cases in other states as well and should fight this case in North Carolina.
Now, if the state Supreme Court Whenever it issues a ruling, if it ends up ruling in favor of the state. That means you basically go back to square one to some extent. One of the reasons that this case is where it is now is that TikTok's been fighting jurisdiction. But The case had gone far enough along that I don't think you go back to exactly square one, but you do have to go back to the trial court level and deal with the specifics of the case if the state wins. If TikTok wins, then the case would essentially be over.
You know, Mitch, what makes this case, and obviously we're talking about TikTok and ByteDance here, but we've seen other discussions about this as it relates to these. And when I say large tech companies, that's probably an understatement when we talk about the size and the scope of a TikTok and a ByteDance or a Facebook and a meta. It's so fascinating because in the case of this, they don't technically operate in the state of North Carolina. They're not a physical business. They don't have physical locations in most of the places in which they operate.
But because their apps are available on iPhones and Androids and available via the internet, it's this weird thing for the legal system to deal with when the company almost really doesn't even have a home base anywhere. Obviously, outside of China, that's where ByteDance is truly headquartered for something like this to play out. It's an interesting and fascinating thing to watch. Yes, and that's one of the reasons why this has become complicated, and you get all the way to the state Supreme Court about this. TikTok or ByteDance had some sort of physical operation in North Carolina.
They had a plant or an office in this state. It would almost certainly be true that North Carolina could say, you have a physical presence here, we can sue you. And TikTok or bite dance would not have much of an argument against that. But because there's no physical operation, because there is no business that's actually conducted in North Carolina in a way that's easy to document, then TikTok can try to make this argument that, look, the proper place to sue us, if you're going to sue us, and we're not going to admit that we did anything wrong, but if you're going to sue us, you got to sue us in California. That's where our U.S.
operations are located, not in North Carolina. And one of the arguments that TikTok made that goes beyond this case, in case the Supreme Court is not terribly interested in protecting a huge social media giant, was an argument of warning of unintended consequences that if you open up jurisdiction in this way. then you're opening up the door for North Carolina companies Anyone that has a website that has some sort of online presence to be sued in other states when a customer interacts with that company, doesn't like what happened on the website, they could sue in their own state. and North Carolina by setting a precedent saying that uh that TikTok could be sued here would basically be opening up the door for its own companies to be sued in other states for online transactions that don't involve actual business dealings in those, as the lawyer described it, far-flung locales. Interesting argument there from the attorneys for a TikTok and bite dance.
All right, Mitch, we're talking about these oral arguments that happened this week. We do not have a final decision, and we likely won't for at least a little bit of time from the state's high court. What makes this interesting is during the oral arguments, you have members of the North Carolina Supreme Court asking questions to both sides. You had the opportunity to listen to that. Anything that you took away from any of the justices that particularly caught your ear?
Well, I think one of the most interesting things is that in oral arguments, you can't always tell exactly where the justices are going, but they were probing the lawyers on both sides to try to get at the legal arguments because I think they are taking the Supreme Court that is seriously this idea of, you know, we're going to be setting some sort of precedent here.
So let's make sure that if we do say that the state can sue TikTok, that there is some sort of justification, that there is enough business dealing that's done in North Carolina, that there is jurisdiction for the state court to deal with it, and that we're not just reaching out and saying, you know, we don't like TikTok, so we're going to sue them here, and then open the door for the potential for North Carolina companies to be sued elsewhere. But I also think that some of TikTok's arguments were treated fairly skeptically by the lawyers. One of the things that we heard from Justice Allison Ridge. Was, look, you know, how can you say you're not operating in North Carolina when you're working with these PTOs, the parent teacher groups, and telling them that TikTok is safe for kids and trying to pass that message through the parent teacher groups to families? How is that not operating in North Carolina?
And I think the TikTok lawyer basically said, well, this is a national campaign. It didn't really have any kind of direct impact in North Carolina. I'm not sure the state Supreme Court is going to buy that. One other interesting thing to note, Nick, is that. If this case is allowed to move forward, It would not be surprising at all to see the state attorney general and TikTok and/or ByteDance try to come up with some sort of agreement.
You've already talked about, I know, on the Carolina Journal News Hour, the fact that the state ended up having a deal with Meta, one of the other major companies, and Meta has already said that some of its money that it's pledged would go up if other companies like TikTok and ByteDance buy into the same sort of agreement that Meta did.
So, my guess is. TikTok is banking on winning at the state Supreme Court and not allowing Jeff Jackson to continue with his lawsuit. But if they lose and the suit continues, it would not be surprising if it doesn't ever go to a completed trial, but if there ends up being some sort of settlement where TikTok decides, you know, let's not throw good money after bad. Let's go ahead and just settle this so we can continue operations. Mitch, you took the question right out of my mouth.
We did recently talk about that Facebook Meta agreement here. What makes that so different? We're talking about another major social media conglomerate. Yes, Facebook and its founder, Mark Zuckerberg, that was in fact founded in the United States. But similarly, I can't imagine that Facebook and Meta have physical offices all across the United States of America.
Why? What is the difference here between something like a Facebook and a Meta and a TikTok and a bite dance? Probably not a whole lot of difference. I think in both cases, what the state was alleging is that their algorithms and the way that they go about operating their apps and their programs are designed to entice young people and get them hooked on the programs.
So, similar arguments in both respects. And I think that what you're seeing is that TikTok and ByteDance were more aggressive about trying to fight the lawsuit and say, well, you can't have jurisdiction over us in North Carolina. The only proper place is California. If the North Carolina Supreme Court says, no, that's not true, because of Fact A, B, and C, including the ways that you conduct your business in North Carolina by reaching North Carolina families, that you can be sued in the state. If that's the determination and the case goes back to a trial court, rather than put this in front of a jury and see what a jury would say in terms of how much money TikTok might be liable for if they agree that bad things have been done and that the algorithm does trap these kids and addict them to the social media app, they probably would think.
twice then about going back to the Attorney General and saying, how can we end this? What can we do to make this go away? Yeah, it's obviously a high stakes for everybody involved. Oral arguments happening this week in front of the North Carolina Supreme Court. We will await a decision from them.
We'll have continuing coverage of this over on our website this morning. CarolinaJournal.com. We appreciate the update. Mitch Kokai from the John Locke Foundation joins us on the Carolina Journal News Hour. For most students, math class moves at the wrong pace.
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Welcome back to the Carolina Journal News Hour, Charlotte's FM News Talk, 107.9 FM, WBT, a somber morning as 25 years ago, today, September the 11th, 2001. Nearly 3,000 innocent people went to work, boarded airplanes, reported for duty, or simply started another Tuesday morning and never came home. Today, we remember those who were killed at the World Trade Center, at the Pentagon, and aboard Flight 93. We remember the firefighters, police officers, first responders, and ordinary Americans, ordinary people who ran towards danger when every instinct told them to run away. And of course, we remember the hours and the days afterwards as the United States of America came together.
We weren't divided by anything. We were, in fact, Americans. 25 years later, an entire generation has grown up knowing September the 11th through history books, photographs, and videos. That makes this responsibility even stronger. God bless the families who still carry the loss.
God bless our first responders, our military, and God bless the United States of America. Yeah.
