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I'm Nick Craig. Good morning to you. We start off this Wednesday morning in Western North Carolina at a recent recovery meeting in Asheville as Western North Carolina leaders are continuing to deliver a very blunt warning. Hurricane Helene recovery efforts may last years longer than public attention and funding will. This is all coming from a meeting of the Governor's Recovery Office for Western North Carolina.
That entity is called GROW NC. Talked about them plenty of time. It includes officials, nonprofit leaders, and long-term recovery coordinators who described a region still uncovering storm damage months after the disaster while simultaneously preparing for what they are describing as a financial slowdown that could threaten rebuilding efforts. Joining virtually from Raleigh, Democrat Governor Josh Stein said he spent much of the previous week, so that's two weeks ago, in Western North Carolina meeting with emergency officials, homeowners, and local leaders working through the long-term recovery from Hurricane Helene. Governor Stein warned that the state is also entering what could become an unusually severe wildfire season, saying that forestry crews had already responded to roughly 4,200 fires by mid-May compared to a typical annual season, which only includes about 4,500.
It's important to note that North Carolina has two more prominent wildfire seasons, spring and fall, and seeing that number already at 4,200 is a big-time problem for those in western North Carolina. The governor said in part, we're looking to have potentially twice as many wildfires this year as typical. While praising the work of the North Carolina Forest Service, the governor also described meeting a homeowner whose family property was destroyed in the hurricane, but who is expected to move into a rebuilt home through Renew NC by the end of this month. Stein pointed to recovery and resiliency projects across the region, including water infrastructure improvements in Canton, designed to move critical systems above flood zones after repeated flooding in recent years, even before Hurricane Helene. Obviously, nothing exactly to that level.
The governor said one of the most encouraging movements came during a visit to Lake Lur for the reopening of the lake alongside local officials and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. The governor said in part, I see how people's collaborative spirits and incredible perseverance are moving the recovery of western North Carolina forward. What we need to do is to match their grit and determination. Governor Stein said he recently spoke with Homeland Security Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen about speeding up FEMA reimbursements, cutting red tape and accelerating project approvals.
He said that North Carolina is still, unfortunately, waiting on Congress to act on the state's $13.5 billion Hurricane Helene recovery request, which is focused on housing, water and sewer systems, transportation, and local government funding. with the governor saying Congress has not appropriated any additional funding for Western North Carolina recovery since December of 2024. The May 22nd Advisory Committee meeting at the Asheville Bunkam Technical Community College focused heavily on long-term recovery groups, commonly known as LTRGs. These are local nonprofit coalitions that coordinate housing repairs, handle things like case management, volunteer coordination, grant applications, and disaster aid across mountain counties that were so heavily impacted by Hurricane Helene. According to Grow NC's Community Partnership Director Eliza Edwards, she told committee members, they are going to be here in two years, three years, five years, seven and beyond until the last needs for survivors are wrapped up.
While billions in state and federal aid have been committed to recovery in western North Carolina, the local nonprofit infrastructure carrying much of the recovery workload may struggle to survive long enough to finish the job. State Senator Kevin Corbett, the Republican from Macon County, said that lawmakers have already committed funds towards storm recovery and expect additional appropriations ahead. Corbin co-chairs the Grow NC Advisory Committee with the Asheville Mayor and Esther Mannheimer. Corbin said the legislature set aside a little over $2 billion in storm relief money, describing the response as one of the largest disaster funding efforts in North Carolina history. But local recovery leaders warned that government appropriations alone do not solve the operational realities that many of these rural communities are facing in western North Carolina.
Edwards explains that most of these long-term recovery organizations or these entities do not receive direct state funding and instead depend heavily on private individuals, churches, other nonprofits, foundations, and a lot of volunteer labor. She said that recovery groups often serve as centralized hubs where survivors can seek help navigating FEMA rules, construction, needs ongoing transportation issues, volunteer assistance, and housing repairs, noting that their work frequently continues long after federal emergency management operations scale back. With Edwards telling the group, if you've seen one LTRG, you've seen one LTRG, emphasizing that each county recovery structure looks different depending on the local needs and of course the available resources. Currently, there are 19 long-term recovery groups that are either operating or under deployment across 20 western North Carolina counties. That's according to Grow NC officials.
with some counties opting not to establish formal recovery groups, while others continue adding new disaster cases months after Helene struck. Edwards said that many survivors delayed seeking assistance either because they believed that they could recover independently or because earlier aid promises failed to materialize and did not come to fruition. That delayed demand is now colliding with what recovery leaders describe as a looming funding cliff. With Edwards saying in part, what we have heard and learned historically is that there is this sort of influx of resources and grant funding early on in the disaster, and then it starts to trickle away. According to Chris Seidman, the executive director of the Yancey County Long-Term Recovery Group offered a picture of some of the logistical complexity that is still unfolding in mountain counties and communities across western North Carolina.
He told the committee in part, Yancey County's recovery group has already placed 96 families. Into extended relief assistance programs totaling more than $400,000 in direct report direct support. He told the committee last week the Red Cross had a conference. Multiple LTRGs were there asking who is funded beyond this year and reported that no hands in the room went up. He said his organization currently manages 159 active disaster cases with only four case managers, noting that several positions are funded through grants that are set to expire later this year.
Recovery leaders also acknowledged growing concerns about volunteer oversight and construction quality, with Sigmund recounting one case where an out-of-state volunteer group improperly performed electrical work inside a damaged home, leaving exposed wiring that later required correction by a separate contractor. By contrast, He praised organized disaster ministries that arrived with licensed supervisors, insurance coverage, housing plans for volunteers, and code-compliant construction crews that have been doing work in Western North Carolina now for going on almost two years. The advisory committee's broader mission includes advising Governor Josh Stein and the Grow NC entity as a whole on housing, infrastructure, small business recovery, accountability, and long-term rebuilding strategies through the western half of North Carolina. Officials say that the recovery remains far from complete, noting that across western North Carolina, new damage cases continue surfacing while local nonprofits face uncertainty about whether the financial support needed to sustain some of these long-term recovery operations will still exist years from now. Sigmund closed out his commentary by saying, we're constantly amazed.
By cases that show up across Yancey County that we didn't know about before.
Well, in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Helene, we talked about how this was going to be unfortunately a very long road to recovery. And it unfortunately appears that those comments just days and weeks after Helene are unfortunately coming true right now. As coming up this September will mark two years since Hurricane Helene left an incredible amount of devastation and destruction in western North Carolina. We will continue to cover these recovery efforts, not only here stateside, but of course the continued progress and movement in Washington, D.C., whether that be Congress or FEMA. We've got continuing coverage this morning over on our website, CarolinaJournal.com, and we'll keep you up to date right here on the Carolina Journal News Hour.
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It's 22 minutes past the hour. Welcome back to the Carolina Journal News Hour, Charlotte's FM News Talk, 107.9 FM, WBT. I'm Nick Craig. Good morning to you. If you've been actively involved in North Carolina politics over the last decade or so, you probably have heard the name in passing, Greg Limberg.
There is a lengthy set of legal stories as it relates to that individual. Major political donor discussions and questions about insurance fraud. We are finally getting some additional details on that this morning. It walks through the latest. Mitch Kokai from the John Locke Foundation joins us on the Carolina Journal News Hour.
Mitch, this has been a very lengthy discussion here in North Carolina: bribery of political officials or said candidates at the time, insurance schemes and fraud. What's the latest that you're following out of a courtroom in Mecklenburg County?
Well, the latest is a federal prison sentence for Greg Lindbergh. Folks who have been following the story for a while might have remembered that he already faced a federal prison sentence for the conviction of attempting to bribe state insurance commissioner Mike Cossey after the 2016 election and was sentenced to seven years in prison, but later had that sentence thrown out by the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals because of some problems with the sentencing instructions in his case.
Well, the feds. Went through another trial, a second trial of Greg Lindbergh on that case. And then, in addition, he faced a whole second round of charges related to what was described as a massive insurance fraud, $2 billion worth. And so eventually. Greg Lindbergh pleaded guilty in that case.
He went through the trial on the bribery case, was convicted a second time, and U.S. District Judge Max Cogburn put the two cases together for sentencing and handed down a sentence that essentially is a 12-year prison sentence. But because he's already served some time, he would likely serve another eight years in prison on the two combined cases together. Plus, Judge Cogburn also ordered restitution of about $1.6 billion in the insurance fraud case.
So, bad news for Greg Lundberg, but at least some resolution, but not an entire resolution, because in addition to these two federal cases, which now seem to be resolved barring appeal, there are also multiple state court cases involving Greg Lundberg and some of the insurance companies that he either owns now or used to own. And we're continuing to see those play out in state courts. But the big news is 12-year federal prison sentence for Greg Lundberg. And because of time, he's already served, probably an additional eight years of that 12-year sentence that he will actually have to serve. Yeah, I think you talk to anybody, Mitch, and they would describe that as a pretty hefty prison sentence, regardless of how much time is served or not.
When this first was coming to light, and again, going back almost a decade here in North Carolina, this was a major political story across the state. Obviously, as you have brought us plenty of legal stories in the past, Mitch, these things tend to unfortunately unfold sometimes at a snail's pace.
So while the name has not been in the news in more recent years, it's not been as hot of a conversation in political circles. This was an explosive story when it first was going through the early legal process and these allegations first came to light almost a decade ago. That's right, because when we first saw that there was legal action against Greg Lindbergh involving the bribery accusations, at the time, he was known as the top political donor in North Carolina. He had backed Democratic Insurance Commissioner Wayne Goodwin. But then, after the 2016 election, when Goodwin lost to Mike Cossey, that's when Lindbergh and his associates, who several of whom were charged in this case, approached Causey.
And Causey didn't like what he was hearing and actually worked with. Federal officials to get the evidence against Lindbergh. He wore a surveillance wire and helped provide evidence that led to the bribery charges against Lindbergh. But as all of this was playing out, before the criminal charges came out, Lindbergh had shifted toward trying to back other candidates, including Republican gubernatorial candidate Dan Forrest. Lindbergh was one of his big supporters going into Dan Forrest's run against Roy Cooper for the governor's seat.
So as Lindbergh was being charged, there was plenty of publicity saying, Top political donor, often in the reports, top Republican political donor, Greg Lindbergh, even though he has been an equal opportunity person. Before he supported Republicans, he had supported Wayne Goodwin. And it seems from what prosecutors have said is that the main reason for him to be involved in politics was that so people would not be snooping around his insurance business, which led to, in the separate case from the bribery case, what was described as a massive insurance fraud to the tune of $2 billion. Yeah, I mean, I guess, Mitch, a little bit of logic there. If you're committing mass amounts of insurance fraud, you may try and grease the wheels a little bit with the insurance commissioner, regardless of whether they are a Democrat or Republican.
Watching the reaction to this sentencing in Charlotte on Tuesday, we did get some immediate reaction, including some individuals in the state of North Carolina, particularly Wiley Nicol, who is jumping into this conversation. As well.
So now that the sentence is handed down, it seems like maybe we're going to take a step aside from as much of the judicial conversation, probably in the more short term, and bring this back to where it started, which was originally a very hot-button political issue. Yeah, very interesting. Wiley Nicol, of course, is going to be taking office soon as the district attorney in Wake County. And you might wonder: well, what does the Wake County DA have anything to do with this?
Well, the Wake County DA can be involved in prosecuting corruption cases. And that is one of the things that Wiley-Nichols talked about wanting to do. And so, very shortly after the news of this sentencing had come out, you saw Wiley Nicol put out first a brief one-paragraph. A statement on X slash Twitter, and then later on, a several paragraph statement saying, You know, despite the fact that this federal sentencing has taken place, this case is far from over. And once Nickel takes office, he's going to look into the possibility of additional state charges that could be filed in connection with this.
I'm not sure how far that will end up going, but certainly it shows that this case is far from over, even though Greg Lindbergh has now been sentenced to a federal prison sentence that will keep him behind bars, probably. I say probably because he's already had one case thrown out, but probably behind bars for another eight years. Yeah, pretty lengthy sentence there. Plus, as you mentioned, more than a billion dollars in restitution paid to victims of this insurance scheme, this insurance fraud that was taking place as well. We have got a lot of extensive coverage on this Lindbergh case that has unfolded over the last 10 years.
We've got it right up over on our website this morning. CarolinaJournal.com, we appreciate the information this morning. Mitch Coke from the John Locke Foundation joins us on the Carolina Journal News Hour. It's 5.37. Welcome back to the Carolina Journal News Hour, Charlotte's FM News Talk, 107.9 FM, WBT, I'm Nick Craig.
Good Wednesday morning to you. Discussions over utility rates have become all the rage on social media across the state of North Carolina. A lot of frustration at Duke Energy and other utilities across the United States as rising rates across the entire country have really pinched the pocketbooks and wallets of a lot of families across North Carolina and the rest of the nation. Tracking an interesting story this morning over on our website, CarolinaJournal.com. While it doesn't affect all of North Carolina, it would in fact affect our neighbors up in the northeastern half of the state as a major electricity merger is planned and could go through here.
We'll be keeping a close eye on that to walk through some of the details. Andrew Pomerance, CarolinaJournal.com, joins us this morning on the news hour. Andrew, for those in the northeast half of the state, they are very familiar with Dominion Energy, which is very prominent, especially as you work north into Virginia and other parts in the mid-Atlantic. What's the latest that you're following? Yeah, hey Nick, good morning.
Thank you so much for having me with you. About last week, we heard this merger start to come to fruition between Dominion and Next Era, which is a power company out of the Southeast.
So currently headquartered in Florida, but has some roots in Georgia and South Carolina. And so this would affect about 130,000 customers in eastern North Carolina.
So think the Outer Banks region, think that corner up that way. And this is a merger, right?
So this is an acquisition of a merger.
Next Aero would be taking on about 75% ownership of Dominion Energy in this move. And so the reported figure is $66.8 billion that NextEra is paying to Dominion to kickstart this process. I know if I had $66.8 billion, I don't know how I would spend it, but this actually forms the largest regulated electric utility business in the country. And so, and largely, many would argue the world. And so they'll own about 110 gigawatts of the generation for mixed energy sources if this were to go through.
But that's a long process, and I think there's a lot to come on this front before we get to that stage of this agreement. And I'm glad you mentioned the process of this being very lengthy. We are dealing with a multi-state utility, multiple multi-state utilities, dealing with discussions at the federal government as it relates to these mergers. And then, of course, the states getting involved as well. I presume that the North Carolina Utilities Commission would be brought into this discussion.
Probably not immediately clear as to how quickly they will be brought in, but no question about it, Andrew. The Utilities Commission will play some role at some point. Yeah, there's some speculation. I spoke to energy folks both federally and state level last week. There's some speculation that this will move somewhat quickly, but look to this summer for some of these issues to actually presented to either FERC or the SEC at the national level before they come down to the state regulatory boards, both North Carolina and Virginia.
This merger will have to go through. And so there's some speculation that the goal there is to start this process before the next General Assembly session, as both Virginia and North Carolina are expecting to see maybe a little bit of legislative turnover, especially here in the state with elections come November. And so I think we see about a 12 to 18 month timeline to potentially get this approved and all put together. We could see some movement at least when it comes to filing with some of those boards come August or September of this year. There's been some major discussion, as I mentioned in the open, for anybody that has spent time on social media, a lot of frustration over the cost of electricity.
Andrew, a lot of this is even being blamed on data centers. You had a story over at CarolinaJournal.com last week about some legislation that's moving through the North Carolina General Assembly, as many folks are pointing the fingers at these large tech companies and blaming them in large part for bringing these new facilities online, causing a major surge in electrical generation from these major utilities, whether it's Duke, Dominion, or New Era here. It doesn't matter the company we're talking about.
So this is kind of an interesting timeline for all of this to be happening with what I would say is some pretty significant pressure on these utilities to lower rates as consumers are seeing their bills in many cases skyrocket out of control. Yeah, that's absolutely right, Nick. And you know, the reason that Dominion actually points to having to do this merger is because of the increased demand that's coming from data centers and large consumers. And so they came together in a press release they put out announcing the agreement said, you know, we have to be able to scale up faster. It's capital intensive to be able to scale up, to be able to, you know.
Fill the energy needs of these large energy customers, whether that be data centers or whether that just be manufacturing plants. And so, to be able to do that, they needed the extra resources, they needed to cut out some of that administrative costs and some of those inefficiencies.
So, I talked with Stephen Hanner, who's the senior fellow for state and local tax policy up at the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Bug Policy in Virginia. And he said, he actually buys this argument. He says, you know, this is actually an argument that makes a lot of sense to him. And that, you know, Dominion was going to look to have to spend $500 billion just over the next 10 years in infrastructure investments. And as you can imagine, it was skyrocketing energy costs, something that wasn't going to drive down energy costs as a billion dollar investment.
And so he sees this as potentially a way as actually we start to slide those costs down, but still a lot to be determined, a lot to be seen. But definitely data centers having a role both in energy prices and also this merger. Yeah, no question about that. And, you know, this is maybe bringing forth a larger discussion over some of the lengthy period of times, time that it does take for many of these major utility companies across the country to bring these new baseload generation facilities online. Andrew, there's a lot of blow, there's a lot of bureaucracy, there's a lot of red tape at the federal and state level to bring many of these new generation plants online.
Many times, it can be easily a decade before some of these facilities are up and operational. And unfortunately, with our growing power demand, in many cases, we don't have the time to wait for a lot of these lengthy regulatory approvals to get these facilities online and get power flowing onto the grid.
Well, and that's what Senate Bill 730 that we wrote about last week, entitled the Rate Payer Protection Act, actually tried to really try to help identify and fix that crack, right?
So, talking about baseload generation, I know John Sanders at the John Locke Foundation has talked a lot about one-to-one replacement. We turn off one energy source, whether that be a fossil fuel or something that's expiring. We have to make sure that we're ready to turn on the energy source to at least match that. And so, Senate Bill 730 that was introduced by well, was amended by Representatives Winslow and Representatives ARP, really looks to kind of fill that void as well as do some of those other rate payer protections like managed data centers and tax exemptions for utilities. Yeah, and of course, we are not only seeing this discussion play out here in the state of North Carolina, I think this is a broader discussion that is taking place in a lot of legislatures across the United States, a lot of town council, city council, county commission meetings across the U.S.
as well. As Andrew, this is not necessarily a region-specific discussion. I feel like this growing pain or this growing pressure is essentially happening all throughout the United States right now.
Well, nearly four-fifths of voters, so 78.2%, actually agreed with that new data centers should actually have to provide their own energy generation. I mean, that was the Carolina Journal poll going back to March. And 60% said they strongly supported that measure, right? And so I think you are seeing a public outcry, whether that be on data center moratoriums or just a efforts and interest by the public to push energy alternatives for data centers, right? Bring your own energy.
And so I think we'll see a lot of that going forward, especially in the General Assembly as we move forward and Senate Bill seven hundred thirty continues to move through the legislative process. That's also something that we've seen the President of the United States, Donald Trump, kind of dip his toe in a little bit on this issue as well, talking about making sure that the federal government kind of takes a back seat or steps a little bit out of the way as it relates to these major companies. And as you noted, Andrew, it's not just data centers. We're talking about major manufacturing facilities, anything that you would expect that is consuming a large sum of electricity, having the federal government take a couple of steps back and allowing these companies, of course, in a safe and efficient manner, to build some of this generating capacity on site so they're putting a far less burden onto the utility grid itself, which, of course, would help small businesses and other residential consumers across whatever electrical utility we might be talking about. Yes, supply and demand, right?
If we can produce more energy in a quicker manner, and energy demand is there, whether you go in Virginia, if you look in South Carolina, where Nexera also operates, the demand is across the board for all three of these states. And as we see North Carolina continue, Virginia continue, the Southeast Corridor continue to be a data center-friendly environment. I think we'll continue to see the energy demand increase and consumers definitely coach feel that on their electricity bills every month. And so, how do we address that? We've got to produce more energy, and we've got to be able to produce it quicker than we currently are.
Yeah, and it's not only these new companies moving in, it's of course the major influx of population that we are seeing in states like North Carolina as well. Andrew's got a lot more on this proposed merger. We'll be following this over the next 12 to 18 months. You can read our continuing coverage over on our website, CarolinaJournal.com. We appreciate the update this morning.
Andrew Promerance joins us on the Carolina Journal News Hour. Good morning again. It's 5.52. Welcome back to the Carolina Journal News Hour, Charlotte's FM News Talk, 107.9 FM, WBT, the North Carolina House Oversight Committee. Has summoned Mecklenburg County and state child welfare officials to testify next week following the death of six-year-old Dominique Moody.
Moody was allegedly starved and neglected despite previous reports to child welfare officials across the state of North Carolina. The committee request very bluntly states: Dominique Moody was six years old. She weighed 27 pounds when she died. That fact should stop every person in Mecklenburg County government cold. The request names Mecklenburg County Manager Mike Bryant, Charlotte Mecklenburg Police Chief Estella Patterson, Mecklenburg County Sheriff Gary McFadden, interim DHS Director Letitia Lodhalt, and NCDHHS Division Director Lisa Cowley, among others, to testify in front of the House Oversight Committee.
House Majority Leader Brendan Jones, the Republican from Columbus County who chairs the oversight committee, requests Did testimony during an upcoming June the 4th committee meeting, writing in part in a post on social media. Because of serious failures within Mecklenburg County, the House Oversight Committee has called the county manager and other officials to testify as to what went wrong and ensure this never happens again. The request cites a corrective letter from the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services, that is, NCDHHS, which found that four out of five reports involving Moody's guardians met the definition of abuse or neglect, but were, quote, screened out with no further assessment of the children's safety. The committee wrote, simply put, Mecklenburg County failed Dominique Moody. According to the committee, NCDHHS also found that contacts were not frequent enough to ensure safety.
CPS history was not reviewed. Significant collateral contacts were not made. And inaccurate case decisions resulted in no services being provided to ensure the safety of children. The committee request states, this is not just a bad judgment call. This is not just a paperwork mistake.
It is a child protection system failing at the one job that matters most, protecting. Children. The committee also pointed to broader findings from the North Carolina Department of Health and Human Services beyond Moody's case in Charlotte. According to the request, the DHHS reviewed 122 unrelated child protective services reports as well as assessments and found broad systematic lack of appropriate safety planning. The committee's requests include 15 written questions for county officials to answer before the hearing, with questions centering on when Mecklenburg County leaders first learned of reports involving Dominique Moody's family.
When they became aware DHHS had received prior reports, what actions were taken after Moody's death, and whether any employees have been held accountable for the miserable situation unfolding in Mecklenburg County. The final question very bluntly asks, why should the General Assembly have confidence that Mecklenburg County can correct these failures without further state intervention? This hearing comes as lawmakers are already considering legislation named for Moody. House Bill 1144, known as the Dominique Moody Safety Act, would make changes to North Carolina laws governing abuse, neglect, and dependency cases involving juveniles. The bill's primary sponsors include Representatives Carla Cunningham, the newly unaffiliated Representative from Mecklenburg County, Representative Alan Chesser, the Republican from Nash, Francis Jackson, the Democrat from Cumberland County, and finally Representative Donnie Lambeth, the Republican from Forsyth County.
This is not the first time that we have seen in recent months officials from Charlotte and Mecklenburg County being hauled in front of the North Carolina General Assembly for a variety of litany of different issues. Reading some of the correspondence here between the North Carolina General Assembly and those officials in Charlotte that a committee hearing is scheduled to take place in what we are expecting as a very busy week in the North Carolina General Assembly to kick off the month of June, June the 4th. There is no time listed for the meeting as of yet, as the official calendar for next week has not yet been officially published. But we are expecting a very busy month of June dealing with issues like we're talking about here in Charlotte, Mecklenburg County. Also dealing with the ongoing budget debate that continues in Raleigh as well.
As lawmakers announced just a couple of weeks ago that they have come to an agreement on what they are calling a framework and will move towards implementing a full fiscal year budget in the month of June and early parts of July. We'll keep you up to date with all of it right here on the Carolina Journal News Hour. That's going to do it for a Wednesday edition. WBT News is next, followed by Good Morning BT. We're back with you tomorrow morning, 5 to 6, right here on Charlotte's FM News Talk, 107.9 WBT.
