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I'm Nick Craig. Happy Independence Day. The 4th of July is here. And of course, with Independence Day, commemorating the passage of the Declaration of Independence by the Continental Congress back on July the 4th, 1776. This document announced the separation of 13 North American colonies from Great Britain.
The Continental Congress had voted in favor of independence from Great Britain actually on July the 2nd, 1776, but did not actually complete the process of revising the Declaration of Independence originally drafted by Thomas Jefferson in consultation with fellow committee members John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, Roger Sherman, and William Livingston until two days later on July the 4th. The first organized Independence Day celebrations were held in Philadelphia in Boston just one year later in 1777. In Philadelphia, the festivities included fireworks and bell ringing. In honor of the thirteen colonies a fleet of ships fired thirteen cannon salutes, and a cannon was fired from each of the thirteen galleys. In Boston that same day the celebration was with fireworks and shells fired over the city's commons.
North Carolina played a pivotal role in the independence of our nation. Each and every week, the editor-in-chief of CarolinaJournal.com, Donna King, hosts the debrief, which is available on our Carolina Journal YouTube channel. It is normally a recap and synopsis of the busy week that it is in North Carolina politics.
However, with the 4th of July weekend coming up, she sat down with members of the John Locke Foundation to discuss some of the important days and events that took place in North Carolina that helped our nation in declaring its independence. We'll turn it over to Donna King. Today we're talking about North Carolina's role in the American Revolution. The 250th anniversary is coming up really quick. We're already talking about it here at the John Locke Foundation and CJ.
And if you're thinking about it, this is a great time to start really looking into it. Joining us this week, two very special guests, two of my favorite people. Donald Bryson, CEO of the John Locke Foundation, and I believe our resident historian. You seem to know everything there is to know about North Carolina history. And Renee Almos, the John Locke Foundation's cinematographer and a producer of these amazing documentaries.
If you haven't seen it already, go watch A Letter to the King. It's short and it just tells us so much about the Edenton Tea Party. It's a key part of American North Carolina and American history. And now we've got a new one started, right? The Battle of Moore's Creek.
If you are a North Carolina historian, you do not want to miss this.
So let's jump right in. We're going to talk about North Carolina history and the American Revolution. Donald, I'm going to start with you. In the very beginning, the early stirrings of Of rebellion. You know, North Carolina, you know, North Carolina, as North Carolinians, even today, you know, we kind of fight the establishment a little bit.
That's just who we are, right? The War of Regulation in the 1760s saw farmers really pushing back against those colonial officials. How did this movement in North Carolina materialize in North Carolina? Sure, yeah. The War of Regulation or the Regulators' Rebellion, as it's known.
People in Alamance County know this very well. Sure. Was North Carolina's revolution before the Revolution. And this was really a movement in the Piedmont region, somewhat in the mountains as well, but not the coast. That's the important part of this.
Where farmers, generally speaking, were upset and angry with corruption in the judicial system, corruption within the General Assembly. They felt underrepresented in the Assembly, of the Colonial Assembly of North Carolina, and they didn't think that the way that taxes were collected were very fair. And so the General Assembly met, didn't take up any of the issues that were. Or brought up by the regulators. And so this occurred, I'm doing this very fast, but this occurred over three years from 1768 to 1771.
This is when the British Empire needed to start collecting more taxes to pay for all the debt they accrued in the French and Indian War, the Seven Years' War. And so this culminated in the Battle of Alamance in Alamance County. If you drive up and down Interstate 40 or 40/85 and you see the historic site, you should go and take a look at the historic site. And this is where Governor William Tryon marched out a thousand militia to face off 2,000 regulators. There's a leader of the regulator movement named Herman Husband, who was a Quaker, who thought that the rebellion was the right thing but wouldn't resort to violence due to his Quaker sympathies.
And uh he ran off and moved to Pennsylvania, which sort of left the regulators leaderless and they were defeated at the Battle of Alamance. But None of the political concerns of the Piedmont were answered during that, and so the anger sort of simmered there for a few years. Right, right. You know, this is really interesting to me. Renee, when you talk about the rebellion, and particularly, you know, folks who maybe weren't political leaders, they weren't military leaders, they were really the rank and file, the people who are most impacted by government action or inaction in this case.
A letter to the king is exactly that. You know, if you get a chance to see it, you got to go see it, and we'll run a little bit of this now. In the documentary, A Letter to the King, it was so fun. I got to be there with you, watch you work. It really delves into those early acts of defiance, particularly among women in North Carolina.
You don't underestimate a North Carolina woman. And that's what this is, right? Absolutely. I think that the documentary, in general, I think that what the John Luck Foundation is doing with the North Carolina History Project is telling all the stories that are a little bit underrated, that people don't really know. And I think it was impressive to realize how many people didn't really know the story of the Eden Tea Party and that there were women willing to stand up to the crown, you know, and speak and gather and Put it on the record, you know, that they are willing to fight and put their name out there to say, we don't want to pay these taxes.
From an artistic standpoint, I really find it fascinating to be there at Penelope Barker's house, to see everybody in costumes, our own, you know, Katie and Brianna there with everybody to reenact that. From an artistic standpoint, this had to be inspiring. Oh, it was amazing. Yeah, we got to be in a legitimate location, which was Penelope Barker's home. They had moved it from where it was originally.
They put it near the water at that point. And it was cool because you're also in the documentary, giving a little bit of insight. We had a couple of historians and really fun experts that shed some light in understanding the landscape, understanding the context, the historical context, and what it was like North Carolina was like back then. Sure. You know, and what the people were experiencing.
With the taxes and whatnot. But yeah, and then doing the reenactment. The reenactment was really, really fun. We had some people here from the office that participated, and our actors were fantastic. They really bring to life this character.
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And the Edenton Tea Party really strikes at the heart of what the John Locke Foundation fights as well, which is taxation. Tell me a little bit about the Edenton Tea Party for people who don't know. Sure. So the Edenton Tea Party happened October 25th, 1774. Remember, we already talked about how the Piedmont and the mountains part of the state were already angry about taxes and how things were taxed and how tax were appropriated.
And so now we have an act of defiance in Edenton, which brings the coastal counties where the real political power of the colony of North Carolina was, and they're upset about the Stamp Act. And you have the first known act or act that we know of where women take a leading role in political revival or in a political movement at all in America, where you have 51 women signed the Edenton Resolves and where they basically pledged to each other to boycott tea, standing in solidarity with sort of the Boston Tea Party and what had happened up there. And this was a major voice in what was a very busy port. In a fast-growing colony of North Carolina, and Penelope Barker is one of those amazing figures that, for whatever reason, is just hidden, has become hidden through history. But some remarkable women came out of the American Revolution.
Penelope Barker, among them, Abigail Adams' story throughout the Revolution is also just very significant. But the Edenton Tea Party and its story should continue to be remembered. And of course, we celebrated its 250th anniversary of Lifestock Trade. Right, right. Now, the 250th is not just 2026, right?
It really starts well before and runs much longer. North Carolina has a Role in this. Do you want to get? I know you can't give a cliff notes version, but a lot of people are like, oh, it's next year. It's really not.
It's right now. No, it is. It's absolutely right now because I think when people hear the 250th anniversary, they hear the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. And that's it, Bob's your uncle, and it's all over. But it's not like we signed the Declaration and England said, you know what?
You're right, you're free. We're all done. No, this conflict went from 1775 to 1781, which means that for the original 13 colonies, including North Carolina. Sure. We've got a good seven years, six, seven years to celebrate what happened in North Carolina.
And so we've talked about the Edenton Resolves, the Edenton Tea Party. We just talked about the War of Regulation. But then coming up, you have the Halifax Resolves, the Mechdeck Day, the Mecklenburg Declaration, if you want to look at the two dates on our state's flag, just happened last month, or month before last. It's July now. And then you've got the Battle of Morse Creek Bridge, the first Patriot victory in the American Revolution.
The Battle of Guilford Courthouse happened in the spring of 1781, which led, which eventually forced Cornwallis to retreat to a little town called Yorktown, where he inevitably surrenders, which is the end of the actual conflict. There's a rich history in North Carolina that we can continue to tell and should celebrate and tell and think about the principles that caused these people to go into an armed conflict for their own freedom. Sure. Tell me about the Halifax Resolves. Why is this so significant?
Sure. So the Halifax Resolves were where I believe it was the third provincial congress of North Carolina met in Halifax, North Carolina. Not a lot going on in Halifax nowadays. It's a small town. But they met there and they passed a resolution that authorized the delegates from North Carolina to the Second Continental Congress to vote in favor of a resolution for independence from England, making North Carolina the first of the 13 colonies to do that, which makes us first in freedom.
And that's why it's on everybody's license plates right now. But it does make North Carolina first in freedom and really set up where we were in a A very close supporting role to people like Richard Henry Lee and John Adams, who were pounding the table for independence. We were there to support them and fight off sort of the wishy-washy colonies of New York and Pennsylvania and South Carolina. Sure, sure.
Now, Battle of Morris Creek, Renee's going to get you've already got it rolling. I know you're in the planning stages now. Lay out for me what the Battle of Moore's Creek was. Why is this important? It was short.
It was, you know, in eastern North Carolina in the middle of the night, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, tell me about that. Short, small. If you know, we have two national military battlefields in North Carolina, and they're both related to the American Revolution, including the Battle of Morris Creek Bridge.
And essentially, the thought process from the British was that they could get a bunch of Highland Scots, and the Cape Fear River Valley from Fayetteville down to Wilmington was just littered with Scots who had come to America after what Scotland refers to as the 45, the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745. And they thought that they could appeal to these Highland Scots to put down this rebellion. You know what a rebellion's done to your country. Be loyal to the king. And so they were going to have a group of people go and meet up with some militia in Wilmington, and they were stopped by some Patriots.
And Renee is going to tell the story very well. But they were stopped by a group of Patriots at Morris Creek Bridge, which obviously goes over Morris Creek. They took the planks off the bridge. They slathered lard all over it so it would be difficult to cross the rest of it. And eventually, essentially, it was the first Patriot victory.
Most of the Tories surrendered, but that prevented the British from taking over North Carolina and prevented a southern invasion and delayed a southern invasion until 1780. Wow. Wow. Now, this is not going to be easy to portray and bring it to us. Absolutely.
What are the challenges you're seeing as you plan out this next documentary on the Battle of the United States? Sure. So, three things. I think number one, the battle happened at night.
Okay.
So, you know, it'll be interesting and it'll be fun to film something at night of that nature. Number two, Um There Was, you know, the stories, they really touched in the heart of. These were real people with real issues, you know, with real feelings. And when you go and visit the location, you learn about one guy. His name is John Grady.
Right? Yeah. John Grady, he is the only North Carolinian, the first North Carolinian, to die for freedom, you know, to die in a battle. And he was the only casualty from the Patriots that happened.
So we will tell the story from his. Perspective, you know, and what it was like to be involved in that and fight and late essentially late his life, you know, for the fight. And number three, If you, you know, anyone that wants to go and visit the location, it's a beautiful park. There's a lot of history, a lot of great people willing to tell you the story. And they actually also have a statue, a monument for Penelope Barker there.
Do they, really? Yeah, which is really cool. There. I don't know why they put it there, but I think they have it to celebrate women that. The rebellion.
Yeah, that took part in the revolution. Sure, sure.
You're such a great storyteller. We've been talking about this and you've added so much to what we're putting out here for the 250th. Why is it important to put this to film? Why do you think that this tells the story better than, or in addition to, a history book or a third grade class lesson? It's just an amazing medium.
Sure, yeah. I think there's no other medium that can really connect with an audience, such as. uh of storytelling through uh video, a documentary, uh you could say a movie, you know, uh something like that that really brings you back to that time and uh you know, helps you connect And see that these were real people with real issues, with real feelings, with families, you know, and they made hard decisions. You know, that we can still make decisions that, you know, promote freedom today. Yeah.
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And welcome back to the Carolina Journal News Hour. Happy Independence Day, News Talk 1110, 99.3 WBT. As many folks get ready for activities tonight across the state of North Carolina, fireworks, a major staple, and interestingly enough, fireworks have been part of the Fourth of July since the first organized celebrations back in 1777. Modern fireworks often feature red, white, and blue colors, but those of the earliest celebrations were actually orange. It wasn't until the early 19th century that more colors became widely available with the addition of metals such as barium and stormium that made those unique and distinct colors.
In the 21st century, well, fireworks are big business. Americans spend an estimated $1 billion per year on Fourth of July fireworks. This long-standing tradition continues across the United States and here in North Carolina tonight, with hundreds of firework shows taking place in municipalities, cities, towns, even neighborhoods across the state of North Carolina. The long-running tradition does continue. You're listening to the Carolina Journal News Hour.
More from our episode of The Debrief, available on our Carolina Journal YouTube channel about North Carolina's 250th anniversary coming up next year and what events are set to take place. What's the John Locke Foundation doing to get ready for the 250th? This is something we've been talking about internally, but I really haven't seen a ton. The Department, North Carolina Department of Cultural Resources, Natural and Cultural Resources, they have a committee going, Legislature has a committee going. I'd like to see what's really happening, because I want to celebrate.
What is the Locke Foundation doing? We're rolling out different parts of the celebration over time, as you pointed out. It's not just July 4th, 2026, and that's it. And so we've already started in our viewpoint. And we've got a call for papers that's already gone out to students, high school and college students all over North Carolina will be publishing those essays.
We've done the short film on the Edenton Tea Party and now the Battle of Morris Creek will be doing, I'll be giving a lecture here at the John Locke Foundation at our office this fall about North Carolina's role in establishing the U.S. Navy. October 13th is the 250th birthday of the Navy. And Joseph Hughes from Edenton, North Carolina had a lot to do with that. We'll celebrate the Halifax Resolves, obviously July 4th of next year.
Year. And then there's a lot of other things to talk about. The Battle of Kings Mountain and the Fifth Provincial Congress. We get into November of 2026, and you have North Carolina's first state constitution, and there's a lot to celebrate with that.
So there's lots of things to continue to talk about and talk about North Carolina's first principles. Right, right. It is exciting. If you want to head over to johnlocke.org, you can submit a paper, you can sign up to submit a paper. And this is a really interesting, there's money prizes involved in it, certainly, but we stick with us for this because the Locke Foundation is going to be doing a ton leading up to the 250th.
If you haven't had a chance to see Letter to the King, Renee's Letter to the King, you can find it on our YouTube channel. I'll link it here below. And you can also see it, I think, at Penelope, at the museum, is that correct? It will be soon. No, so they opened up a separate establishment.
Okay, the Eden Tea Company. The Eden Tea Tea Company. The Tea Company. Oh, yes. Beautiful shop.
Good. Yeah, so they are playing it at this shop.
So you can head over to Eden Tea. And check it out there, of course. What do you hope people walk away with all of this?
Well, I think, you know, two things. Number one is these are highly educational because they really tell you a lot of the historical facts. And number two, they're really entertaining. It's a really entertaining way to learn the history of our state and become acquainted with these stories that, as we've found, a lot of people never heard of. And it's impressive that they don't talk about these things in school or.
That's the thing, actually, I think is really interesting. I feel like some of these messages have been lost, especially the early messages of the founding of our country and the principles of liberty, the principles of rights. It's gotten diluted. Oh, it definitely has. And you can see in the way that people talk about government and what was going on.
And you and I have had some conversations about there's the American Revolution, a few years later, there was the French Revolution. Right. And the American Revolution took the principles of John Locke. Oh, look, that was. Was a nice little thing.
But it was the government shouldn't do these things. People should have negative rights in that they have protection from the government of creating laws that will do XYZ. Whereas the French Revolution took a different tact, was very bloody, very violent, and unto itself, and then said, well, the government should do XYZ. And those are positive rights, which just increases government's power and hold on its citizens. And of course, America has gone in wildly different directions over the past 250 years from what France has done.
Well, I mean, and now, you know, not to drag out this point, but I think it's fascinating because we've talked about this. You're seeing the imagery in some of the protests that we're seeing today that are much more representative of the French Revolution than the American Revolution.
So dig into that a little bit. Sure. It wasn't. It wasn't that the patriots in America hated the king. It was that they deplored the power that a king and a parliament 3,000 miles away would have over them.
And so the entire American Revolution, from the Declaration of Independence to the Articles of Confederation to the current U.S. Constitution, is inherently skeptical of government power. And you hear people complain about, well, this is just the least productive Congress ever. That's the point. They want it to be hard to pass laws that encroach upon the rights of the people.
Whereas John Locke began with, we all have inalienable rights, natural rights that we get from God or nature's God, as Jefferson would say, and that those rights should be dispersed throughout society and there should never be concentrated centers of power, whether that's government or industry or one individual as a king. Then you have Jean-Jacques Rousseau, who came in in the 1760s or so and really influenced the French Revolution. It said that Robespierre, who really led the revolution in France, slept with Rousseau's book on his nightstand every night and they would do daily readings from Rousseau. But Rousseau started where Locke did and said that we're all born with natural rights. But then he said those rights should be.
Brought together into the general will, that he said, and the general will should always come forth, which basically means that whatever the majority of the mob says, 50% plus one says, that should be the law of the land. Wow. You know, clearly the American side of that was very hesitant, like, ah, I don't know about that, because mobs are very tempestuous. Right? And That's what we're seeing now with all of sort of the progressive left on the general will should always prevail.
The general will should always prevail. Like, no, democracies are inherently dangerous. Republics are elected democratically, right? The leaders are elected democratically, but they're supposed to have cooler heads and say, ah, perhaps we should apply some wisdom and not just the heat of the moment to whatever situation we're facing. Sure.
So much to think about. A great rundown this morning on the history of North Carolina and the impact that it played in the American Revolution. We appreciate it from Donna, Donald, and Renee. And welcome back to an Independence Day edition of the Carolina Journal News Hour, News Talk 1110, 993 WBT. We've got a unanimous appeals court decision this morning as it relates to the Charlotte Mecklenburg school system.
To walk us through some of those details, Mitch Kokai from the John Locke Foundation joins us on the Carolina Journal News Hour. Mitch, unfortunately, this decision deals with some sexual assaults within the Charlotte Mecklenburg school system. What are we learning from that unanimous decision earlier this week?
Well, first, it's probably important to note that this deals with events that took place almost a decade ago.
So, people who are listening and perking up and thinking, oh, there's sexual assaults going on in the Charlotte Mecklenburg school system, we're talking about events that took place from 2016 to 2018 and involved one student that we know of.
So, this is certainly for parents, they can put that into perspective. But what happened was there was a contractor or a private group that used Charlotte Mecklenburg schools to do some after-school language programming. It was a company called Play Spanish, and it was owned by a fellow named Ricardo Mata and his wife. And what happened was that there was an allegation from a couple of parents, John and Alicia Brady, that between 2016 and 2018, that Mata sexually assaulted their children. Child while that child was in programs involving play Spanish in both kindergarten and first grade.
Now, the lawsuit was initially filed in 2021, and it was against. Mata against play Spanish, but also against the Charlotte Mecklerberg schools and three school employees. We're not talking about teachers or principals, but other administrative employees, the head of something called the Community Use in Schools or CUS program, and a couple of people involved in the facilities and how facilities are used by these outside groups.
Now, what happened was the suit was filed in 2021, and in 2024, a judge ruled against the school system and against the three employees on their motion to be dismissed. They're saying we're a government agency, and in terms of the individuals, we are public officials or public employees. We should be immune from this legal liability. The judge, initially, in that case, said no. And the appeals court, as you mentioned unanimously, Upheld that decision, saying that this is not a case in which the Charlotte McLeanburg schools or the three employees can lose legal liability because of their public employment.
Now, much of the decision deals with a lot of technical issues about, you know, What was the role of the school system in here? And is it a government function? Is it sort of a proprietary function where they're just letting some other organization use their facility, but they're not actually involved in a government function?
So a lot of it is really technical, legal, dealing with a lot of precedents that people won't necessarily. Want to know much about. But I think among the more interesting things about this case is something that I don't know has a major impact on the legal outcome, but certainly calls into question why this was able to happen. And that is the opinion, which was written by a judge who we know well from many recent discussions. Judge Jefferson Griffin is the one who wrote this opinion.
And he said that it came to light that in 2013 there was a report that Mata, the head of Play Spanish, had been involved in an assault on a child. And there was an investigation done at the time, and it was found that there were multiple accusations against him going back to 1993 and through 2009. He had been extradited to Georgia at one point to face a similar charge. And after this investigation was done, Mada talked to the school official. Officials said he didn't do what he was accused of.
The Investigation was closed down, and no principals or parents were ever informed of it.
So, regardless of the legal issues that are involved, the idea that The school system knew about this and didn't do anything, certainly raises some red flags and raises some questions. What we know from the legal perspective is, based on this decision from the Court of Appeals, that the parents who have sued not only the alleged perpetrator and his company, Play Spanish, but also the Charlotte Mecklenburg schools and these three employees will be able to go forward with the legal action against everyone involved in the suit.
Now, Mitch, I imagine that this situation is similar in other school districts across the state of North Carolina where third-party companies are offering either after-school programs. In this case, we're talking about a language program, and they're using school facilities to do that. Makes sense. The students are already there after their school day. Would this case set legal precedent going forward?
God forbid another situation like this was to unfold somewhere else in the state? It's possible, but it really probably depends on the details of the case. As I mentioned, that if you look at the opinion of 30-some pages, I would guess that 25 to 30 pages deal with. Just trying to distinguish this case from other precedents in which something has happened on a school campus and you have to decide whether the school was involved in its government function or whether it was more a proprietary function. That's a lot of what Jefferson Griffin was getting at, in his opinion.
So if the Facts of the case are very different from this case, then that precedent wouldn't hold. But certainly, one thing this tells you is that there's not this blanket government immunity that the school system and these employees can rely on. That there are some cases, and this is one in which the Court of Appeals says it's true, that you do not have this immunity based on what happened. And I think that is something for school systems and other government agencies that allow outside groups to use their facilities will need to keep in mind. And certainly, based on the facts as alleged in this case, if they're true, you would have to wonder why, after this 2013 report about some incident involving potential assault where the criminal background check turned up information about all a bunch of other accusations that took place years earlier, why after that point, Didn't something else happen involving this group play Spanish that might have helped avoid what happened from 2016 to 2018, three years after that initial report?
Yeah, I could see some arguing complete and total incompetence there from the school district. Mitch, thanks for the update this morning. We appreciate it. You can read some additional details on this story by visiting our website this morning, CarolinaJournal.com.
Well, that's going to do it for a Friday edition of the Carolina Journal News Hour. Have a great, happy, and safe 4th of July weekend. We are back with you Monday morning live, 5 to 6 a.m., right here on News Talk 1110 and 99.3 WBT. Riley Herps from 2311 Racing here. And you know what grinds my gears?
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