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April 11, 2020 8:03 am

​"When the person from whom I have a right to expect nothing gives me everything." That's a working definition of a three-letter Hebrew word that's found throughout the Bible. On the next Building Relationships with Dr. Gary Chapman, musician and author Michael Card reveals the mystery of hesed. How could one little word change the way you live? Find out on the next Building Relationships with Dr. Gary Chapman.

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One Hebrew word has captured the imagination of singer and songwriter Michael card.

I realize that was the gospel. Jesus comes to me, this is Mike you're wrong and I would be on your side. You will have to be right for me to love you and die for you, and I think that's us when the person from whom I have Rogers, but nothing is me every building Gary Chapman on the revenue like time seller defined LeBlanc day, author and musician Michael card returns to talk about an important difficult to translate into English the word is Hassan you'll find out what it means straightahead greatly broadcast from one year ago Michael card in the studio in Nashville. We talked about the work is done researching and writing about "The 5 Love Languages" .com you see your resource inexpressible Hassan in the mystery of God's lovingkindness. Five love as we began the conversation last year. I told Garrett was excited that he and Michael were getting together and that we were having this discussion on Easter weekend great weekend to be discussing the word posted and I'm ready to find out more about why you think this is so important Chris because I tend to agree with you, well you know what you know this word you've you've written about this word in some of your books right I did in the book keeping love alive. His memories fade. The book we wrote for caregivers of dementia patients. Those folks who walk that long journey. They know what has said love is our let me say if they do know what has it means, then there going to be better caregivers. Yes, Michael card to an award-winning musician performing artist he travels to Israel leads tours dairies earned a Masters degree in biblical studies from Western Kentucky University under Dr. William Lane is written, scribbling in the sand a fragile stone.

The biblical imagination series on the four Gospels, and others. His latest is inexpressible, which I think should of entitled Hasid, but whom I provided it. Five love go Michael welcome back to Building Relationships.

Thank you Dr. Chapman so you're not a whole book about one little Hebrew word yeah that is only three letters in it tell us about your journey.

How did this happen. It's sort of the sort of crazy and how you can become so preoccupied with one word. I started about 10 years ago when I was working on the laments the Old Testament and I learned that all of the laments except one. Psalm 88 is the only exception, all of the laments transition from lament to praise and and three of the most important laments transition that this word Hassan and I have studied Hebrew. I thought you know I should at least be familiar with in a war that was so important and I wasn't so that that's how I got onto it it's it's as if David or Jeremiah or whoever the laments or is they run out of words except for this one word and it it it turns their lament into into praise.

It's it's it's an absolutely fascinating work so you been friends with this word for at least 10 years. Yes sir yes sir you give us a working definition of the word Hasid.

That's the first problem I am looking at a list right here and in six different English translations. This word is translated hundred and 69 different ways. King James translated 14 different ways. Eugene Peterson wins the prize. He and his message.

He translated it 57 different ways. This one word. So is love, lovingkindness, merciful love steadfast love, faithfulness, grace, kindness, devotion and loyalty, faithfulness, it's just it goes on and on and on.

And so in the end there. There's not really one definition and that was the first thing I had to learn as I thought will out. I'll do what no one else is done I will come up with the definitive definition and then I learned that words don't work that way and you will we talk about was the literal meaning of this word. Words don't have literal meaning, they get their meaning from the context so I think what what happens is this word appears in so many different contexts, but sometimes it it just means to do me a favor and then the next is 34, which I think is the most important passage it. It's a word that God uses to define himself, but the fact that you can't do it doesn't mean I didn't try so my working definition is is it's when the person from whom I have a right to expect nothing gives me everything that I think when you talk about caregivers. I think that's interesting you know that you know in your your person who you know from the world's point of view really has no value anymore.

You feel like you have no right to expect anything but what you get. You get kindness and over-the-top loving and gentleness and all those kind of things. I guess that explains the time of the book inexpressible. Try to express it anyway sure what I want to call Hasid to Chris, but the I got over why, why do you call Hasid the greatest sacramental word in the Hebrew Bible was that that came from one of the lexicons slide out and come up with that statement.

Some someone else. I think Bruce walkie that something that did that Dr. walkie said and I think what he means is in terms of holiness in terms of a word that represents what the sacraments represent the holiness of God. The provision of God the character of God.

He and I had a conversation years ago when he he'd says he didn't say this but I clearly remember him saying it that it was the defining characteristic of God.

And last I held onto that and an exit that's what got me so interested in this word to his dear someone like Bruce walkie say say something like that about a word, so I think what that's what he meant in terms of holiness and from a linguistic standpoint in terms of range of meaning.

I think it has the greatest range of meaning of any Hebrew word may be any word in any language. You know, many times the word is used in the Old Testament, 248 times a couple of those times it's it's someone's name so it uses a name maybe two or three times Paul would not be prophetic if your parents came to Hasid every now and in Israel.

I'll meet someone whose names Hasid which is pretty cool, absolutely. You mentioned Exodus chapter 34 as being one of the places I think you said this is where you choose to express the name of God or character of God.

Yeah I think that's probably the most significant passage is that it's the is the second is the second time is after he broke the first of the commandments. When Moses goes back up the mountain and God covers him with his hand and puts them in the cleft of the rock, and basically describes himself to Moses and the first word from his from his lips.

The first word is the word compassionate Iraq come in Hebrew, God is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, and full of, and incomes were tested and then the next the next sentence it. God says I show Hasid for thousands so he uses the word twice and defining himself to Moses. Interesting actually. What is word first appeared in the Bible.

The first appearances want as well as, common appearances and it's in that Genesis 1919 and Lot as basically says that you know God, you, you've done this favor for me. You show me you know your kindness and so now I really don't want to go to Mount let me go to the city so in in the first occurrence. It sort of is is like a favor, God. You should you show me the this in your favor. In the past. Now, do me a favor and don't make good amount. But why do you think the word is so hard to translate because you were sharing earlier some of the ways it's translated and in different versions of the Scriptures. What II think it if you if you understand that words words get their meaning from context and all I will say my last people. What is the word key mean and the truth is you don't know what the word means until I tell you the context is the thing. I opened the door with us at the key to the song is that the key idea it it you know that though the context determines what the meaning is, and so it given that in those 248 occurrences and in the Hebrew Bible. It it happens in all sorts of different contexts again from the most common occurrence to God defining himself in and basically everything in between in in in Proverbs is a Proverbs or Leviticus it's it's even translated disgrace or shameful thing and but but words do that.

Don't they words you know. Words will be the ones word please mean it means to stick to things together means to cut two things apart so I Hasid even does that think I think that's why it's so many different different contexts that it appears in all been waiting for this.

I just I really wanted Michael Cardin Dr. Gary Chapman to talk together about this one little Hebrew word, and it's really interesting that were doing this on Easter weekend between the crucifixion and the resurrection.

Because I believe Jesus is Hasid in the flesh and listen. Now, as we have this conversation with Michael card you don't want us to become preoccupied though with just one word.

This is not a myopic you know get all one word and learn everything you can about it there's there's a there's a door that you're trying to open for us with this yeah I think I think that's his Hasid is a door it. It's a world so you should like just tattooed on yourself and become myopic about that. You know this one word. It means everything I think because of the range of meaning is so great it it will. I think you know an idea like "The 5 Love Languages" . I really think that that and I want to say this, you tell me Dr. If I can say this or not but I really feel like acid connects back to all of those in in the Hebrew Bible.

Mercy comes from Hasid and grace comes from Hasid and kindness comes from Hasid.

It's not just that that word means all those things but but because God is a God of Hasid he's kind and is merciful and slow to anger the Bible says and and he won't leave the guilty unpunished because he got Hasid so even as justice is connected to this, but I would have you responded that that that all those things come out of Hasid to the five love language discomfort has it can say that because all of these are choice. All of these things your choice and you can have information know what would make your spouse or someone else feel loved, but you choose to do it and then snatch from the heart is if you have that attitude I want to build up people I want to help people. I want to meet a need here. So yeah, I think I think you're exactly right, even when I get nothing and especially when I get nothing for doing it.

Yeah, and that's why you know I often not Michael in a very difficult marriage where a spouse will not come for counseling. They won't need a local marriage that would even talk about us. I give the person the other person.

The challenge would you be willing with God's help, to speak your spouse's primary love language at least once a week for six months. No matter how they treat you and Lester see what happens and it's not that I can guarantee that within six months.

The other person will respond. What I'm saying this is the most powerful influence you can have somebody is to love them when they don't deserve to be loved and that and that's that's what the cross means that while we were yet sinners Jesus died for us. One of the most life-changing things. It was ever said to me as a young man in church there was a deacon in our church.

I got in big trouble for doing so. I got in trouble a lot in this deacon got I'm I'm crying at you not been busted about seven years old and he gets in my face and he says Mike I want to tell you something. What you did was wrong. It was really wrong and I want you to know I'm on your side and I want and I realize as an older is an older person that was the gospel. Jesus comes to me, says Mike you're wrong and I'm to be on your side.

You don't have to be right for me to love you and die for you and I and I think that's tested when the person from whom I have a right to expect nothing gives me everything you give other examples of how this word relates to everyday life are Gentile in the news we hear things that what you just gave is one example.

Are there other examples. It is jump to your mind. I think my favorite is Keisha Thomas in 1996 in Ann Arbor, Michigan. There was a white supremacy KKK was having a rally and there were a group of protesters off to the side of a group of African-Americans and one of the KKK guys wandered through by mistake. That group and they started pounding on this guy. They were that he was already on the ground actually people taking them and Keisha. She said she felt an angel pick her up and put her on top of the sky, but she basically threw her body on top of this man is saved his life and there was a photographer there. He took a picture. It was time life's picture of the year 1996. This black woman protecting a white supremacist who you know as swastikas you know tattooed on his arm and all that kind of stuff and I look at that. I see that picture and I go okay. That guy has no right to expect anything from her. When you get he gets everything that that to me was a beautiful example and I think what exciting things is once you sort of develop an instinct for this you start looking for it and you see it and it's it warms your heart.

Well, that's powerful.

He also said that a woman Dina named Dina showed you personally Hasid. Oh yeah, that's one of my favorite stories, elbow try make this short.

You know something like what Keisha did was huge savings and was life issues, but the other thing about Hasid and I think that your caregiver example is probably good. A good example Hasid can be shown in very small ways.

I think when Jesus has a couple cold water offering someone a couple cold water. I think that could be an active Hasid and I was visiting a black church here in Franklin, Tennessee 19. It was 96. I think it will achieve just realize the same year that Keisha was protected 95 or 96.

Anyway, about 200 member church. I was the only white person in the church and I I sat in the only empty seat in the back of the church and that when the sermon started, the woman who I hadn't even spoken to reach over and grab my hand and I at first I kind of freaked but then I thought well I guess this just what black people do in their church is a muscle hand so I look around and nobody else's holding hands, and I after the service was overseas. She stood big woman. She stood and said you were were really glad you were here you you come back anytime we were glad to have you here and I I come to find out her name is Dina Smith.

I knew her husband actually Bob Bob was a person who met with our prayer group, so I knew I knew her husband anyway.

I knew the pastor the church.

He prayed with us to and it wasn't until I started studying Hasid.

I look back and I realize I had no right to expect anything from her. What sort of associations should she have had of this white guy coming into her space to cover the only safe space that she really has rights church and here I am in no end, but now have a word for it is incredible kindness that was lovingkindness is one of the most popular translations of the word 1535 miles Cloverdale invented that word to try to translate the word Hasid and that's what I experienced and it changed my life. But it was a small thing, just tell my if we could get Hasid into the lives of the black and the wide and all the other racial people in our country we would have a solution right I think so, and in the good news is that you see it all the time that you know it's it's not it's not what the news portrays but I mean I live I live in a town that still Sunday is still the most segregated hour that you that the church are still the most segregated hour the week and but that the connections that are being made, there really is a revival going on in our town in terms of reconciliation and it all has to do with the small things we were share meals together.

We got it done movies together. I've coffee it with a couple friends you know on a regular basis and and that's what it's going to take and it and its eminent look but it looks like a little small thing but it's a huge thing so even like it and it went back to your example the caregiver you know that wiping some you know the unit wiping someone's chin after they've eaten or changing their sheet, their dirty sheets or whatever that seems like such a meaningless thing but if you stop and think about it, I really do think that what what what is Jesus to Jesus washes their feet and he says I'm to show you the full extent of God's love. I think the miracle of Hasid is I can change someone's you know dirty sheets and show them the full extent of God's love that some absolutely with a dementia patient when they get near the end of the journey and I can have no response, and cognitive abilities are gone, and yet the spouses and sometimes adult children say there are professional caregivers.

Also, there sometimes brought in, but there's nothing there's nothing in return. You know you are there or not they can't they can't reciprocate to you and say it's a one-way love but but it's so encouraging has been delayed to sleep as I sit in small groups with with the patients like they are caregivers like this in a one man, for example, his wife became just very horrible and and lashing out at him all kind of things in and she he didn't know that she had a disease and he actually left her son alone with this. He left her.

It was a year later, she was diagnosed with the disease and when he realized he was the disease and not her. He came back and took care of the rest of her life, all while so his first response wasn't good with the second spots was Hasid is always that idea of second chance Michael of of Hasid giving you a second chance right. But will it it has to give you more chances you can imagine. I mean I think that's Jesus and Peter. You know how many times I forgive my brother Peter says seven times and he's trying to impress Jesus with that number by the way, and Jesus basically says no more time than you can imagine, and that that's the nature of Hasid yeah it's it's it's always over the top.

It's you know finding that wounded person binding his wounds put them on your donkey taking them to the in paying his bill and saying I'm in a pet when I come back it's it's it's getting the ring in the robe and the shoes in the party for the prodigal. You know it's always over the top. Jesus talked about Hasid all the time and the ultimate act though is what we remember happened on Good Friday. Yes, the, the embracing of the net that Jesus didn't have his life taken from him. He gave it he had the authority to let it go. John says, and on the cross, said prayed father forgive them. They don't have a clue what they're doing. Yeah, I read that Gary every time I read I think what you talk about they know exactly what they're doing right. You know, and I think sometimes Hasid looks nave to people but I said I stand in front of the cross of Jesus.

And I say I nailed you there. If I understand the way fallenness and all the rest were okay I nailed you there. The Romans didn't kill you, the Jews didn't kill you I killed you, and yet he gives me everything you knows us it a second chance. No more more second chances you possibly imagine. And because that's the nature of who he is. When I think of Jesus on the cross. I I nailed you there. I II wrote. I raise the cross, I nailed you. I'm the reason that you died like we were talking about this word Hasid and not just in the New Testament that the Old Testament, but a lot of people have the idea that in the Old Testament God is a God of anger, judgment in the New Testament.

He's a God of love that's not true. Is it I don't think so and I think this business of Hasid God's principal revelation of himself and in the Hebrew Bible as being a God of lovingkindness. Now you know we don't. Don't get me wrong, he gets mad but he he's he's given every every right to get mad, but a lot of people don't realize, especially in the prophet someone like Jeremiah, God is reached out for generations to people to the prophets beg them to turn back, you know. And so it's only that real stubborn disobedience. I think that leads to God, exercising his justice. But even that's inactive of Hasid it so that they can eventually going to the landing and and his is his ultimate will can be can be done so yeah I think that's a vast oversimplification to say oh I don't believe the Old Testament angry God. I believe in loving God New Testament. I think we sometimes have a hard time though it really kind of grappling with how God can be perfectly just yet perfectly loving yeah but there's something inside of us, even us as fallen creatures that that cries out for justice right here absolutely won't let one why not go to the place where God tells us who he is, which this passage we referred to it to three times as Exodus 34, six and seven, God is telling Moses who he is and the first part of the revelation has to do with compassion. In the second part of his of the revelation has to do with justice limit we just read it, that's okay, this is a you know Moses is in the cleft of the rock he's come up the mountain to get this that the the tablets re-inscribed to CP broken.

He got mad and broken so that Moses got mad, but in an six verse six. This 34 Exodus 34, six the Lord passed in front of him and proclaimed, and here it is the Lord, the Lord, and that's the only time got a recess is named twice like that is a compassionate, there's a word right, compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger and abounding in Hasid and truth maintaining Hasid to a thousand generations, forgiving iniquity, rebellion and sin. So there is the heart of God.

Are there.

His is his heart is to forgive every sort of sin. There are three different words to disturb describe the range of sin. But here's the second half of the revelation, but he will not leave the guilty unpunished, bringing the consequences of the father sin on the children and grandchildren to the third and fourth generations but but that the fact that God causes that the children and the grandchildren to suffer the consequences of their father sin. That's part of his of his mercy and one of the best examples I think is when the Israelites refused to go into the promised land. That's gonna happen just a few chapters later and and God will cause them to go into the wilderness and so what happens there for two generations there wandering in the wilderness that the children and the grandchildren experience the consequences of their father sin. But what happens they enter the promised land. Eventually, and they are changed. Change people and so the fact and what if God didn't allow us to experience the consequence of sin and it would just be rampant that no part of his mercy. Part of his justice is. He does not leave the guilty unpunished. But, and I think ultimately what this this verse is what leads to the cross, because ultimately he he.

He's made this covenant with us that we do nothing but break and so on the cross he keeps a covenant that we never really kept and and he ultimately you know he ultimately brings punishment on his oath for the guilty on his innocent son because he's a God of justice, but he's he's still a God of Hasid. I think that's the big surprise of that of the Hebrew Bible. I would expect you know God to speak the universe into existence.

I would expect them to be holy.

But these kind, I don't think anybody saw that coming. That's powerful. And on this weekend as we reflect upon the crucifixion is this word reverberates in our heart mean Michael you may or may not know this answer this question. But my background is anthropology in an undergrad and a magic Masters degree in anthropology before starting counseling and theology mixing other cultures. It is this idea of Hasid found in out in other cultures well from a linguistic point of view I can't tell you in terms anthropology or anything like that but linguistically there there's not another another word like Hasid in any other language. It's a you of the scholars say it's a uniquely Hebrew word, and now so from that, I will drive this is means the banjo player natural can making collisions but but what I derive from that is, it's a uniquely Hebrew word because God's revelation was unique to his people that he knew he was a God of lovingkindness.

There are there are no hymns to the kindness of mole lacquer ball or you know Vishnu or any any other pagan God. That's that's one of the unique that the uniqueness is informal when Solomon dedicates the temple and is worshiping God. One of the things he says is your God of Hasid there's no God like you. So II think this is the I think this is unique, that I would think that that argument from a linguistic quantity and that would be my guess is now Michael in the chapter on an everlasting refrain first Chronicles 1634 give thanks to the Lord for he is good his Hasid endures forever. You say I think that this is the pivotal II dogeared this part and I started and you write this, what are the implications for us today of God's Hasid being everlasting and eternal. What kind of confidence might be born in our hearts and minds if we trusted God's love, mercy and kindness will never fail. Never leave us in the lurch. What would happen to our deepest lingering fears if we could summon the audacity to believe this promise, a promise that obviously meant so much to Israel and I read that and I thought this is this is something that will call us to live differently if we live receiving God's Hasid. We have to live differently in this world.

It wouldn't be Hasid if it wasn't eternal if it was sort of a whim or something that would could eventually wear away that would completely change the character of an interesting to me any limitless list do this do a biblical run at this when God gives Asaph and and I think Ethan their job description.

When he said that way when he gives in the job description. I think that's in first Kings, for he says this what you can sing about that. The Hasid of God endures forever. That's your job right so you look at Psalm 89, which is the only song we have Ethan in the first thing he says is I will sing about the Lord tested forever.

So if it's if it's the if it is eternal. Then Ethan says want to sing about it forever, and ended and it doesn't change is not seasonal like our our love is fickle like our love is it that it's reliable it's ultimately reliable.

You say that one of the fundamentals of Hasid is the concept of reciprocity what you mean by that. Yet that's a huge idea in that it comes from is a little more mundane in in the historical books when the word Hasid starts popping up, it's usually connected to this idea of reciprocity and that is that David and and Jonathan are the classic examples.

Their friendship is described as a friendship of that that's based on Hasid and again see, think about that. David has no right to expect anything from Jonathan. Jonathan should've been king. Not that Jonathan Saul son not David but what is David get from Jonathan. He is everything. Not not, you know, not even just put up with David he he he he would do anything for David and what what happens is you have all these ideas and happens again and again historical books that if if you are shown Hasid.

It is really incumbent upon you to return Hasid. There are couple of examples where even even with Saul. I think there was a tribe that solid been kind to the King nights and that I think they let Saul come to their territory, and then at some point later on, the Israelites didn't return Hasid to them and that was this huge violation but but did that this this is seen most clearly. After Jonathan dies. David says, is there anyone in Johnson's family left that I can show Hasid to and that's the method the ship storage. Jonathan has this crippled son and David you know basically shows him kindness, lovingkindness, and that so the way it works is a this is a big idea in the in the New Testament, Jesus is you. You forgive as you have been forgiven. That's reciprocity that it's incumbent upon me. That's why, why do okay. Why do I forgive my enemy's enemy. Love is another word for Hasid it's enemy. Love.

So Jesus has this long discussion and I think in Luke six about that we should love our enemies, and he concludes that discussion with his definition Jesus definition of Hasid and he says because what you love your enemies, because God is kind to the ungrateful and the wicked to the ungrateful and the wicked, he is kind, so why do I love my enemies because God loves his enemies that's me. Please so that the reciprocity that that's were the ultimate expression of reciprocity I forgive is I've been forgiven, but you don't you don't forgive you no good because you get the cart before the horse.

You don't forgive, to earn forgiveness. Oh God you you you forgive out of the well that you have been forgiven and it's like a natural response right right right Hasid is never given to give anything return in return. Now if if I give you $1 million and you build a building and you put my name on the building that's charity and that's a good thing. You know, and in the Hebrew world carries a good thing is not Hasid but if I give you something if I give you million dollars you put my name on the building that's Hasid and and Jesus teaches this right. What is he say when you give. Don't let your left hand was right into when you pray to the inner rooms and it's not so the yummy. Ultimately, Jesus is you will God who sees in secret will will reward you openly, which you don't do it to be seen by men or to get there. Thanks.

Otherwise is not Hasid or Michael let's focus on Jesus. It sounds like all that is happened is a prelude all that we been talking the Old Testament will receive God. There's a prelude that Jesus will not only be the word made flesh, but Hesiod made flesh. Yes, why. By the way, when John says that that the.

The word became flesh full of grace and truth. That's that's that's not grooming it's in Greek but that's the same phrase that's in Exodus 34 God says that he is full of Hasid by Emmett grace and truth, so that there is a real link there with the Word becoming flesh and and and Hasid and on the cross. We talked a bit about that, but just again what was happening at the cross. One of the old ideas in theology was that because of covenants. God gave us Hasid that Hasid came from covenants and wonderful scholar Catherine sank and felt eroded of little tiny books are 90 pages but basically it was a book that turned that view around and she said absolutely not, because God is a God of Hasid he makes covenants with us so hesitant coming covenants.

Covenants come from Hasid and he makes these covenants with us and we break him but he keeps keeping and so I think what ultimately happens there on the cross is because he is a God of Hasid and he won't leave the guilty unpunished right he keeps that that he gives a sacrifice provides a sacrifice of of his own son and it's the ultimate demonstration that God is a God of lovingkindness and that it hit. He ultimately wants to be with us.

To me, what is the cross. The cross makes possible the fulfillment of the deepest desire of God and what is that he wants to be with us, Emmanuel, God with us you that that the climax of all Scripture of all Scripture and in Revelation is when you know John's.

I hear her loud voice from the throne the said at last. The dwelling of God is with men and women and he will live with them as the deepest desire of God in Jesus makes that possible on the cross. Well, well, tomorrow we celebrate the resurrection of Christ, and Christians all over the world look but not to one who died and stay dead, but one who rose from the dead. How does that fit in to all of this. Well I think it's the ultimate demonstration. The first place.

It was all true. You know, I think you know they're walking to Emmaus, you know, we had hoped. They said you know they're looking down the ground, all bets were off. We we we put everything in our belief in this man and now he's dead and were done right the women go to the tomb to anoint a dead body. There's no one waiting outside the team CVs can be raised from the dead's were done.

It's over. We had hoped. I think is the perfect expression of it within what happens. He demonstrates his power, he demonstrates that this is all been true all along.

Everything he said when he predicted that he would be raised from the dead. It's all true. And not only does it demonstrate that he's true that it is true. It it also lets into the world, you know, I think what someone like Paul would call resurrection power and you and I are empowered by the resurrection, I think, specifically to show Hasid to become a week week God shows his immense power through his kindness okay and he empowers you and me with this power that raises the dead, so that we can do what so that we can show the full extent of his love by offering a cup of cold water by changing dirty sheets by forgiving a spouse who is never ask us for forgiveness.

That sort of thing Michael and I thank you for being with us today discussing a word that many Christians are really, unaware of the word that is at the very heart of what God has and is doing and will do so. Thanks for being here on this weekend celebrating with us the death of Christ, the resurrection of Christ and our resurrected Thanksgiving with us. Thanks for having me on the program and it is been great and spending this time with you what a meaningful conversation here on the day before resurrection Sunday and what an excellent resource. We haven't link "The 5 Love Languages" .com inexpressible Hasid in the mystery of God's loving kindness again get a five love next week. If you walk through the deep valley of losing the baby.

Or if you have someone you know Susan loss. Join us for candy store shall share a lot. A big thank you to our production team Steve Wick Janice Tom Ryan McConnaughhay. Also, thanks to Mike powers, including radio. Thank you for listening.

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