Bridging The Gap

I'm repping for the kingdom and the city. Beating life into the youth, can you feel that? We're bridging the gap, we're bridging the gap, we're bridging the gap, creating mysteries in the church. None of them know that God comes first. We're bridging the gap, we're bridging the gap, we're bridging the gap, hey man, amen.

Welcome to Bridging the Gap. Hey, we off to a little late start. But congrats to Wake Fars for another victory. They're doing pretty good. I can't believe it, you know.

Couple of seasons that I've been down here, they've been pretty bad, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, they are doing their thing. I'm looking forward to it, gang. I think they got Duke coming up sometime soon. I'm just like, yeah, I want to see.

I know my husband is looking forward to it for sure.

Well, this is Fashion on the mic. We're keeping it live on the light. And we have a special guest with us today, our brother Will Dungey in the building. Yeah. He has also been a pastor and an entrepreneur, and he's going to fill us in on all of his experience and give us great information about his business.

Hope y'all are having a safe and sanctified Saturday. Amen, amen, amen. It's a lovely day.

So, let's hear from you, Will. Hey, something on the mic. Your mic is live. It is live? Yes.

Yeah. one well out there. Like they said, this is Will Dungy, and it is a pleasure to be here today. Amen. Amen.

Praise God. I know I heard you give your testimony, and I was just like, man, we got to have you on the broadcast. Oh, yes, I'm excited. Amen. It's going to be a great show, y'all.

Y'all stay tuned. And one of the topics today is going to be. Y'all ready? Spiritual warfare is going down. I think this is something that really needs to be talked about and expressed right now in the body of Christ.

We need to be prepared. What y'all are thinking about that? Amen. So, what are you going to jump into one of your poems? You know what?

Where we at? All right, because you know the Lord be using me in the poetic.

So I'm be using the prophetic. I can be used in both the prophetic and the poetic. Amen. Okay, so I have a piece, and it is pretty much dedicated to the topic of today. And it's called More Than a Conqueror.

And it is talking about spiritual warfare.

So, people, I pray that y'all are very blessed by this. Y'all, we're getting ready to go with it. I load up scriptures like bullets in a chamber. Shooting down the devil till there's nothing but vapor. I love this word.

I pull it off of the paper. Why? Yeah. And for those who shared evil, I use as motivators what they meant for evil. only makes me greater.

I stay prayed up and strapped down in the armor of God. And he comforts me with his staff and his rod. And while others are practice and rehearsing, I'm walking by faith and I'm casting down curses. Be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power. Take your stand against evil in this dark hour.

Our enemy, the adversary, seeks whom he can devour. God is looking for his soldiers. This is not the time to cower. By the power of Jesus, demons yield. The fight is fixed when I step on the field.

Greater is He who is in me when I must war. The battle is not mine. It's the Lord's. If God is for me, then who can't I stand against? I'm more than a conqueror, and faith is my defense.

Yeah, y'all give it up. Praises be unto the Lord God. Yes, Lord Jesus. Yeah, I tell you, I remember the first one that you did, you know, and you said that was two years in the making. Oh, yeah.

That was the first time I ever had recited that.

So, y'all pray my strength in the Lord. We appreciate you. We appreciate you. Praise God. Hey, so, you know, I like to get.

Get right into some of that good gospel music.

So, we're going to go into a couple songs and then we're going to be right back and let the Lord have his way. Amen. Amen. Don't touch that dial. We'll be right back.

Yo, what's good? It's your boy Mike TZ, and you're now tuned in to Bridging the Gap with Minister Dwayne Kennedy on 1340-1400, The Light, W-P-O-L, 103.5 FM. Yeah, still working like this in my seat. I dripping someone in reach. People don't want to see you with the aim of the book of infinity.

You can't take this away from me. Let's believe if I get it, I keep it. I'm prophetic with the rhyme scheme. If I speak it, believe it, I see it. If I speak it, believe it, I see it.

He told me fish on the other side of the boat. I had to listen.

Now look at the net. Flex, ooh. Tripping the text. Yes, oh. Man, I've been blessed.

Yes, oh. Killing that. Yes, yes, oh but it's a You can't just write out the visit, you gotta speak it in existence. And even though it ain't happening, yeah, just know that it's off on the distance. The walker like this is my season.

I took it so when they feed it People don't wanna see you achieve it It's the A-Red to boogie. You can't take this away from me. I'm prophetic with the rhyme skin if I'm speaking Believe it, I see it. Minister walking like this in my scene. I just been so anxious.

People don't wanna see you achieve it. It's the aim of the book of Ephesus. You can't take this away from me. Let's believe it. I get it, I keep it.

prophetic with the If I speak it, believe it, I see it. If I speak it, believe it, I see it. Believe it, I'm gonna see it. Believe it, I see it. Amen, amen.

Speak, believe, and receive it. Amen. I love that. That's Mike Teasy. Hey, we're gonna cut into that song right now.

We finally got things working right up here. You know, after. The game, it gets kind of complicated getting things switched back the way it was. I know. Yeah, we're gonna have to work on that.

We don't want anything distracting from the world and the power of God. Amen. That's right. We deny that distraction right now. Amen.

Amen. Amen. So, where are we at now for fashion?

Well, we're going to have our brother Will Dungy in the building. We're going to have him just introduce himself, tell us about him and what he's doing. How are you doing, brother Will? Oh, I am doing well out there. BSTST.

Hope everyone's doing well out there. About myself. I was a pastor for 27 years and I struggled with the term was because in a lot of ways, you know, you don't step out of ministry. Yes, that's right. What I'm doing now with the business that I am running is a lot of ministry.

And so those are the things I'm doing right now. And that's who I am. A pastor for 27 years, but I think you got some questions for me. Oh, right. I sure do.

Okay, so you started at Mount Zion Baptist Church. Yes. I did my research. And you were there for eight years. You pastored over the college.

I grew up in that church. Oh. That is my home church. I was on staff for about eight years.

Okay, so y'all heard that correction. All right. That's home. That's home. That's home.

Okay. And then, so now I read that you have a great ability to connect with people. And that is super important in ministry, right? It is. And then you say you have served a lot in the community and overseas.

Yes, yes. Outreach and missions, right? You've been overseas. Where have you been overseas? Oh, gosh.

I wish I would have fought a bunch more. Let's see. Haiti. Um Argentina, uh Budapest, uh Uh Uganda. Owl and Gosh.

I remember we were talking about Hades, you know, and you made a profound statement. I just like, wow, you know, we was talking about, you know, we had a conversation offline, and we was talking about the eye of the needle. And the statement that he made, you know, because people get things mixed up.

Well, you were talking about the eye of the needle and, you know.

somebody asked you whether it was a needle or something else like the yeah they thought it was the actual needle and thread amen i you know my thing is let's not even concentrate on that piece let's concentrate on what the what the main point is is that it is it it states that it's harder for a wealthy man a rich man Then to the kingdom, than into the eye of a needle. And so a lot of times we start looking at rich people. and start judging their lives. But one of the things I've learned to realize, I've come to realize, Is that to the rest of the world? I am incredibly wealthy.

Wow. Come on, somebody. to the rest of the world. Living in America. I have If I can say it, buku.

More. Money. Yep. A whole lot more. And you know, that's a unique statement because that is de-Americanizing the Bible.

You know? Because all we see is in our eyes. Yes. I don't mean to cut. No, no, my statement is just that let's look at it and just talk about.

Are you putting your, are you depending on your wealth? Are you depending on Christ? Because in essence, that's what that is about. It's like, what are we burdened with? What are we carrying and what are we depending on?

Um We're to depend on Christ. Amen. I can't trust my wealth. Come on. You know, that's that spiritual insight right there.

You know, 20 years pastor. And yeah, let him be. You still pastor. Let him be hallelujah.

So, um, all right.

So basically, um, I want to know, we want to know how. you Did you know you were called to ministry? Wow. Okay, so I have to take you back to when I was a little kid. Yes.

I grew up in a single parent home. My mom raised us. My dad left when I was very young. And what We had to move into a house. It was a shotgun house.

You know what a shotgun house is? You know, it's kind of like you open the door and it's just straight. Go straight on through. That's right. Well, this was a sawed-off shotgun.

Wow. So it wasn't that big. Um, we were living in that house. We had to go on government assistance. My dad wasn't paying any alimony, any child support.

My mom Uh got pneumonia. and had to go to the hospital and there was this little lady next door. Her name, we called her Ma Free. She said she would keep us while my mom was in the hospital. And during that time, she would talk about prayer.

And she didn't just say, I'm going to pray for your mom. She began to teach me how to pray. Wow. She began to teach me that God is close, that He is real.

Sometime after that, my mom went to the hospital with a ruptured appendix and Marfrie was right there again and she was right there as a prayer warrior and a prayer trainer, just teaching how to pray. Around about that age, five-ish or so. Um I understood. I grew up in a Christian home. I was growing up in a Christian home, but I understood that God is real.

But He's not only real, He's near. He's present. He's right here.

So I always tell people: if you try to tell me that God isn't real, you reach me way too late. But somewhere around six or so, and I don't share this story much, but. Around six or seven or so, I always envisioned myself doing ministry. And so I knew. At that age.

Now, growing up, I tried to say I was gonna do this or do that, but in my heart, I I knew where I was going. And what I would be doing, that's a beautiful thing.

So it was just tugging on me. It was just implanted. It was just there. Amen. How can you not experience the power of God as a young kid and just not be compelled to follow and to say, I'll do whatever you want me to do?

Come on, Jesus. Man, you know, that's the thing I tell people all the time. You know, God has been saving me all my life because when I look back, it's like you saved me from that, you saved me from that. You stopped me from going down that street, you know, and he moved me here, you know, and he's just been active in our lives from the very beginning. Excellent.

From the very beginning.

Now, you know, I had other moments in my life where I felt like the Lord was speaking directly to me about ministry. But if you want to talk about when I. When it first hit me, I was just a young kid. Um that didn't that doesn't mean I live my life right all the time. But it does mean that I was here since he was holding me.

And keeping me. And so, you know, my whole life is a testimony. Amen. I'm on somebody.

Well, you wanna hear more about that testimony.

So basically, now. Is this your time in ministry? What? Miracles have you seen, if any? Have you?

I know you've done seen some now. That's an interesting question. Yeah, come on, what the Lord done did? Let's see what Him.

Okay, so I could take the response and I could say, you know, every day you get up. That is a miracle. Yes, it is. And so I'm going to start there and say, Amen. Amen.

Every day that you wake up, it's a miracle. Amen. Again. Salvation. Is a miracle.

Yes, it is. And we need to glorify him for it. Hallelujah. But I imagine you're talking about in people's lives something physical happening. Yeah, I've seen God do tremendous things over the years.

I've seen him reverse tumors that people said. Glory Jesus. What about that? You can't explain it. And so I've seen him do tremendous miracles.

And I've also seen times where people have prayed and it didn't seem like it moved in the way that we wanted it to move. But I know that people have been connected to the Father and just know that He's present. Yes, Lord. You know, a lot of times, and like I said, you know, it's like. Where we live at, the Bible has been Americanized.

But, like, you know, you spend some time over Hades and different places, you know, and miracles are, we don't see them because we have a lot of distractions. I call it weapons of mass distractions in front of us. Wow. So we don't see that. And that's shortened, you know, because if we can't apply the faith, he can't do the work.

Yeah, and you know, I agree with that. And I think a lot of times we want to. Say that something else caused a miracle when it was the Lord that did it. We want to say, well, maybe this happened, or maybe I wasn't really sick, or maybe this wasn't really the diagnosis, but you know what you receive. That's right.

And God did the work. Amen. Amen. Hey, we're going to go take a quick break right now. We're back on schedule now.

We're back on. Come on now.

So we're going to take a break and we'll be right back. Don't touch that dial. We're keeping it live on the light. Amen. Jordy Hold up wait a minute I can't believe it but you did it yeah so many blessings I've been getting yeah You're the greatest I admit it, yeah.

Oh my oh god, yeah, forget the times I Cause now we win. Yeah, we winning, yeah, it did. Had to do it, but you did anyway. Jumping out the fight like a Mario. Red already like a cardio.

Celebrating like a party, though.

So you wanna get me started, no? Cause he did it, he did it, he did it, he did it for me, yeah.

So many blessings and blessings, and blessings, and blessings on me, yeah. Cause I'll be counting all day. I'm counting so many days, so many ways. I'm kind blessings at the long way. I'm kind of blessings at the long way.

Kind blessings at the lone way. Count, count it up, count, count it up. I'm kind, blessings at the long way. Kind blessings at the long way. Kind blessings at the long way.

Lord, I thank you for the good and bad. Because it built me up to who I am. It made me out to be a better man, never taking anything for granted. Yeah, I may be one man, but this is not a one man's band. And yeah, I put that on everything.

I'm giving glory to the prison king. And counting up blessings. I'm counting, I'm counting, I'm counting up blessings. And thinking you love a Forgiving me and removing all of my transgressions. The struggle is real, but I know that as long as you're with me, I'ma keep progressing.

Maintain it. No pressure keeping me home. No stressing. Your blessings flowing with No limits here. I count it up.

With no sillies yeah Every time I think about it Lord you brought me out of your bed situation how I never underestimation I'm afraid Someone hundred. Ain't no shaking. I'm a cheap on I'ma keep on Going with me. Cattle taste.

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I'm counting up, cut it up, cut it up, cut it up. I'm kind blessings at the lonely way. I'm kind blessings at the lonely. Kind blessings at the lone way. Can't cut it up, cut, cut it up.

I'm kind blessings at the lone way. Kindness. The long way, got the long way. Cut, got it up, got it up. Hope y'all having a good sanctified Saturday.

We back, we back with our brother Bill Dungy. And we're going to finish our end. Dungye. Dungy. I want you to say it right.

Correct it. Bill. All right, yes. Rubber wheel. Yeah.

So, we were back. You were going to tell us a little bit more about your ministry and the college kids and everything.

So, In the church, as I grew up, I knew that I... was called and so they allowed me to teach. Like I said, I went to Mount Zion. Mount Zion is an incredible. Incredible equipment.

big church. Right. And I would not be where. And this is Mount Zion in Greensboro, North Carolina. I would not be where I am.

Today in ministry, I know I was called, I know God has set some things in place, but He also calls people to help you along the way and along the path. And so, Bishop Brooks. With pastor books for me back then was incredible at giving space and encouragement and training. And so one of the things I was allowed to do. As a young man, was to have a young adult Bible study.

Now, that young adult Bible study consisted of my girlfriend, who's now my wife. All right. Come on, somebody. Shout out. My sister and her boyfriend, who's now her husband.

And we're talking years ago. And my cousin, I mean, my wife's cousin, and a few friends every now and then, a few other people. But that was like the Bible study. And I was content to do that every Wednesday. The adults had their Bible study.

I was content. One day, I felt like I was impressed by the Lord to change the name. Of the Bible study, not to not call it young adult Bible study, but to call it college Bible study. For a lot of reasons, I thought that was just not the thing to do.

So I fought it, but it kept coming back up.

So I went to my pastor, Pastor Books, and said, you know, thinking he's going to shoot it down, I said, I think I'm hearing that the name should be changed to College Bible Study. And he said, I think that's a great idea. And I was like, oh, I gotta do something with it now.

So we just changed the name. It wasn't big. We just said college Bible study. Nothing changed for a month or so. My Wife, who was my girlfriend then, we said we were going to teach one lesson on Christian dating.

It was getting close to Valentine. And if you know my wife. Matter of fact, you want to go and give a shout out to the missus. Hello, Cam. I love you, baby.

Thank you. That's right. So, if you know her, she is not one to be up front, but she said yes. We didn't do we didn't advertise. Uh that Um Wednesday night we had 25 students from nowhere.

Wow. And that was the last time we taught on something. We had 25 students. And we will. Wow.

And it kept growing. like that until about and so if you want to talk about a miracle until about three months or so there was anywhere ranging at different times from a hundred and fifty to two hundred and something students that were attending a Wednesday night Bible study we had to do it at nine I think it started at nine thirty nine or nine thirty because we just couldn't get the sanctuary in that time and you have a large group of people I did not know that would be like a great time for students on a Wednesday and they were coming from everywhere they were the colleges in Greensboro but they were also coming from Salem College Wake Forest so many people were coming from Wake Forest that we did a Bible study on Monday nights from Wake Forest And it was just a tremendous blessing.

So that's when my pastor took a walk with me one day in the church at that time. cow pasture beside it and You know, he says, I want you to go walk, come walk with me. And I'm thinking I've done something wrong. I don't know. And he said, you know, you've talked about a calling being on your life.

And we see some things happening. Would you, what do you think about coming on staff and us continuing to train you in the area of ministry? And that's when I went on staff at Mount Zion Baptist Church. One of the best things that I still have a lot of joy and memories, and that's always going to be my home church, and I am so thankful. For the Lord did there.

You know, that's a blessing, especially in our, because, you know. When I got saved in the church that I was invested my time and everything in, It's a blessing to have them. At that core foundation to be the supporters, you know, to be that Benjamin and to be that person in your life because. Without it, you know. We'll be like the wind.

Well, you know, there's churches all over. because of the vision of Bishop Brooks and the vision of Mount Zion. And if you have men of God who know how to pour into other people and then launch them out. Um You're going to see tremendous impact in the city. And I always say, you know, people in ministry.

should not Come to their leader and say, I think I'm ready to do something. You should already be looking. You should already see things in them and go and begin to call things and challenge them. To move in the things of the Lord.

So, in other words, like nurturing, nurturing, pull it out. Encouraging. And I think that's what happened. I know that's what happened with me. That is a beautiful story.

Give God all the glory. Hallelujah. All the glory.

Now, um,. What is your why? What is the why? Why do you minister? Because you're still involved in ministry.

You're not retired. Hallelujah. You're not retired from the call, right?

So you're still involved. You still volunteer, even though you're not on staff.

So, what is your why? Why do you do this? Yeah. Um I just simply believe. That We are called to be about the kingdom.

in everything that we do. If you are a farmer and you are planting in your field, if you have any interactions with anyone. It should be about the kingdom. They should be able to hear and see the kingdom in you and in the words that you are speaking. And so my deal is that I love the church.

I am passionate about the church. And I believe that we should be in community. But I also believe that we're supposed to be in the world so that we can share the gospel, so that people can hear about Jesus.

So the why for me is always that people might know and grow in him. Um it's basically discipleship. That's a lot of what I do, and I'm about discipleship. When Jesus said, To his disciples, he says, Go into all the world and make disciples now. When he said that He was totally.

Talking about evangelizing and growing people up. Yes. We tend to separate the two. We say, Oh, I evangelize. And another person says, Oh, I'm a disciple of people.

But when Jesus is talking to his disciples, he says, Go and make disciples. That meant that you needed to proclaim the gospel. And then, once you proclaim the gospel, grow them up. And so, discipleship is like the why for me: kingdom and discipleship. Amen.

Praise the Lord. All right. Now, we. Wanted to know also, what was the motivating factor for you leaving full-time pastoring? What was the motivating factor for you?

Well, you heard it. The why. I want to be more connected with people. That's one aspect of it. The other Look at what they have.

Oh man, the other aspect of it is um Ministry is incredible. I love it. Amen. but it can be also very challenging. Yes.

What were some of the challenges that you have? This is um very, very interesting. What were some of your challenges during that time of ministry? In ministry. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yes. Bless us. Bless us right now.

Well, well, first of all, I want to say this, and I believe this with everything that I have. Um Church is messy. Mm-hmm. But it's messy by design. I think we're trying to We want a perfect church.

And we're not going to get a perfect journey. Yes. As long as you have people who are beside each other. You're gonna have messiness. You got to understand when the letters were being written to the church, there were three boxes, big boxes that I put to the Yeah.

One is to make sure that there was sound doctrine. Two. People were asking questions and they were responding to those questions. And three, to handle the messiness. Yes, Lord Jesus.

You gotta love each other. You gotta stop playing favors. You gotta make sure that you are treating each other well. And, you know, that church.

So it has that component that it's going to have some messiness about it, but we are constantly going into it and loving on people. I always say, I can't believe I'm going to say this on the air, but I always say that church is messy like some good hot wings. Yeah, you're going to have sauce all over you, but if you stay in there, you're gonna be satisfied. And I believe that's what church is, is that. And so, you know, as far as challenges, you're gonna always have challenges with people.

You know, at Mount Zion, which was incredible, but, you know, but it was like. Predominantly African American church, and then God called me out of Mount Zion in 2000. And I went to a church that was predominantly white as one of the pastors there. And that in the South creates its own challenges. It's a Grace Community Church.

Grace Community Church. In Greensboro, North Carolina. And I'm still at that church. I've come off staff, but I'm still there. I'm a governing elder there, and we still attend that church.

Amen. But, you know, that came with its own challenges right there. You know, I appreciate, you know, now this is just. My little concept, but I appreciate people that have the stuck-to-it-ness to stay where they are. You know what I mean?

I don't see through scripture. You know, and we was talking a little bit about this before. Before it was like, it was like in the book of Acts, it was like the church of Ephesians, the church of Antioch, the church of, you know, so it was like they had their, you know, and it's like here, you got, it's not the church of Winston-Salem or the church of Greensboro. It's this, this, this, and that, and that, and that, and that. But to stick to itness, you know, to be at one place learning, you know, Whoever seen, I ain't never seen a root get up and move itself to another root, but that's just.

Well, you got a good point right there. That's just me. That's just me. Keep preaching y'all. I think that, you know, when we get in a place, and that's how we grow.

That's how we grow through the mess, through the drama, through chaos, and with some good sound teaching, you know. And that's how we grow because you know, a plant just can't get up and move its roots. You know, a tree can't get up and move its roots, but it stays stay there through the seasons, the good seasons and the bad seasons, and you know, the flowing back and forth.

So, yeah, I appreciate hearing that because you know, that's that's I'm a firm believer in that. I was talking to a young guy the other day about that same situation and how we just need to, you know, just be there, be there, and be solid. You know, do what you can do while you can do it. And we have to. And this is so along the lines of what we're talking about because the topic of today is spiritual warfare.

And we have to understand, right? The Satan is the adversary. The real enemy is Satan. 1 Peter 5 and 8. Amen.

That's where we can find it, y'all. He is the real enemy.

So if there is strife, division, discord among us, we have to fight the real enemy and not one another. Amen. And that's how we put on them weapons. Put on them weapons. Come on now.

Hold on, my God. Gonna go to Ephesians 6 on it in about a minute. But. Rapping for the kingdom in the city. Speaking life into the youth, can you feel that?

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None of them know that God comes first. We're bridging again. We're bridging again. We're bridging again. Hey, man, hey, hey, we got a brand new release we're gonna play for you.

This is Selena Lena. She just had our CD release party last night. Life is right when it's me and yeah. Nothing takes me away from you. Look at all the things I've been through.

I'm right here and I ain't leaving you. Nothing pulls me away from you. Cause by your side, I'll never lose. And when I pray, I'll know you move. All the things you brought me through.

There's just some things that I'll never do. And I can't leave cause I'm into you. Can't believe what you brought me through. I'm looking at my life from another view. Every day that I wake up, it's the start of something new.

Already blessed with the best. Sick of looking to my life, cause I ain't like the rest. Every test is a phase of my life. And my life is but a breath. I should leap when I grow.

Reap what I sow. Turn up any day, even when the money low. Talking mad dedication. With God by my side, I know that I'm never waiting. It's all about the choice, got freedom in his will.

He was looking over me when I was in the bill. He already knew me even when I wasn't here. He's always gonna see me for the person that was real.

Now that's the real deal. Got a lot of blessings on my field. I could go through anything in life and I promise I'ma be alright If it's a bad day, I'll get through the night And if I'm not okay, he gon' make it right Yeah, you know this life is a do or die It's another kind of reptide. I had to say goodbye to my other side. I had to do away with the self-pride.

Wasn't getting anywhere cause I wasn't fully satisfied. Life is right when it's me and you Nothing takes me away from you. I need you like a lifeline. Never dare to walk alone without you by my side. If I was a captain, I'd be you first every time.

That's no question, never had a doubt up in my mind. You the headline, that the crazier than hematime. You the catalyst like an enzyme. Pull me from the inside, and let your light shine. I ain't perfect, but I'm all about you every rhyme.

I can't be about it if I'm dwelling on my sin. No time for win if I don't believe within. I ain't leaving soon, cause without you, I can't move. Look at all you've done, what else is for you to do? To me, life is cool when it's just me and you.

All I wanna do is live 100 by the truth. I'ma be alright as long as I am next to you. I need to be verified, I need you to approve. But I don't need no change, cause I'm not. I'm walking in his word.

I pray all the time.

So when he talks to me, I learn. I'ma stay put and read up on his book. I'ma learn from the vest.

So when he come, I ain't shook, no surprise. You need real eyes to realize that he applies. And I ain't taking off no days. I'm about to get this raise. Raise to heaven and you know it lasts forever, ever, ever.

Life is right when it's me and you. Nothing takes me away from you. Look at all the things happen to you. I'm right here and I ain't leaving you. Nothing pulls me away from you.

Cause by your side, I'll never lose. And when I pray, I'll know you move. All the things that have brought me through. There's just some things that I'll never do. And I can't leave cause I'm into you.

Oh yeah, oh yeah Cause by your side I'll never That's brand new from Selena Lena. Never lose. Don't you know what Christ, you never lose? How y'all doing out there, Triad? We are chopping it up with our.

brother will dungy i want to make sure i get it right this time Help me Jesus. You know, one question I wanted to ask is is you any relation relations to the Dungeon family? You know? Well You know, funny. And funny you should ask that.

No, not closely. The deal of it is, is that when the whole family has this thing, my family has this history kind of book. Oh well When we came over here on the ship, the dungeies got to remain free and the names are spelt four different ways. And so distant, yeah, probably related. And there's actually a reunion.

I haven't been to it yet, a family reunion that happens with all four spellings of the name. Oh, wow. Maybe other names. Wow. That's pretty interesting.

Next time, next time it's coming up, let me know so I can just pop up. I don't know if you can't say that. I was like, hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm telling you.

So, Minister Dwayne, give us the times for next week's show because we know Wake Forest games got us changing up our times and all that good stuff. Help us know when we're coming on the air next Saturday.

Well, you know, actually, it's a late game next Saturday, so we are going to be on from 12 to 2:30.

So, 12 to 2:30 p.m. we'll be on because of the late game. But hopefully, that's another victory for Wake Forest. They kill us. I know, woo, woo.

You know, so but you know, uh, Wake Fires, uh, they kind of uh uh uh Take over the time limit, you know, that's that ESP, ESP funds, you know. But to make a long story short, yeah, we are on 12 to 2:30 next Saturday. 12 to 2:30. Yeah, I'm gonna be out of town, so I'm trying to think: should I come back for that or, you know. Uh, let you know, let you guys do it, but I'm trying to debate on that right now.

You just let the Holy Ghost lead you now.

Well, you know what? Let me let me let me rephrase that. I ain't gonna be out of town, I'm gonna be uh going to a men's retreat from Thursday to Sunday. That's awesome, yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, and this is uh uh masculine men's journey, so this is not this is not just like your regular retreat, this is a time when you know, because they encourage this, they say stuff like, uh, okay.

We got about two hours. Just go into the wilderness. Wow. Don't talk to any man. Don't talk to any person.

Just go out in the wilderness and, you know, just you and Lord, deal with the Lord. And they do that probably three, four times a, well, I should say every day they do that. That is awesome. Yeah, you know, and we just go, we just go out and we just, you know, just be in tune to Christ, you know, and just God is nature. Yeah, yeah.

And food is off the chain. But, you know. The spiritual and the natural. But, you know, I plan on being there. And I'm.

Thinking about coming back, uh, but then I'm thinking about you know, it's not too far from here, you know, but uh, it's it's just the time when just relax and just get yourself back in tune with God, right? Go for it, brother. Go for it. Man, you know what? I'm looking forward to it now, yeah, and I'm I should.

Spend time with the Lord. You know, I close my door and I'd be like, okay, Lord, here I am. You know, that's when I was studying Enoch, you know, because I'm one of them studiers. I want to understand why, okay, Lord, it's a lot of people that have faith in the Bible, but why did you take that man? Why?

Why did you pull that man? And you know, I started studying on his character. You know, his name, you know, it means his name means to initiate. Enoch means initiate. See, so I'm looking at, okay, so he's an initiator.

That means that's in his character.

So obviously he was initiating his relationship with God. He wasn't waiting for God to come to him. Come on. This man, where you at, God? You know, I'm at the front door.

You know what I mean? I'm going around the back. I'm ringing the bell. You know what I mean? And I just, I look at the history of Christianity or the history of the Bible.

And there's so many men that just wait on the Lord. But, you know, there's people that went to find. Him, and that's where I'm at.

So I'm looking forward to it because I'm going, I'm looking. Lord, I'm coming. You're going to meet me there at this time, and I'm going to be there. Amen. Come on, because the word says that if you draw near to him, he'll draw near to you.

Amen. Hey, come on, somebody. You know, I haven't finished that study, though, because it was only two men in the Bible that was actually didn't see death that was taking away Elijah. I haven't got to the Elijah part of it yet because, you know, that's what we need. We need to pattern ourselves after some of these men.

You know, Jesus, Jesus wasn't, Jesus didn't just come. He came to show us and be an example. Yes. You know, and, you know, people get mad at me.

Some of the Christian folks, they get mad at me when I make this statement. You know, and you know, I'm always like to make statements that get into your spirit because hopefully to make you think.

Okay. And provoking things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but Jesus said that we can do greater things than he did. Jesus walked.

He walked. He walked without sin in his life. You can't. Listen, Job pointed out, the book of Job said, this man was perfect. You know what I mean?

Perfect.

So you can live a life. That's perfected in Christ.

So that's my thing.

So, you know, oh, the phone number here is 336-896-1340. 336-896-1340. Give us a call if you want to. You want to call in. Represent your church.

Represent in the triad.

Okay, so now we are waiting on our listeners to call in. We're going to go ahead and resume with our interview with our brother Will Dung. And we wanted to just finish hearing the rest of what you had on your heart to share with us. Hey, I want to say too, the number here is 336-896-1340.

Well, there's a lot. You asked a question earlier about the transition, and I didn't fully share all of that. Um and the the transition of of Leaving the pulpit and doing what I'm doing now, and then how is that connected together? In June of 2017, I hadn't I wasn't feeling great. But you know, thought everything was fine and I stepped in the pulpit to preach.

I was not the senior pastor, I was one of the staff pastors, but that was my Sunday to preach. And I stepped in the pulpit to preach. And that day, I could not. for some reason. Get the message out.

I'm standing there and I cannot get it out, but I can communicate because I was able to say to the people in the congregation, y'all pray. I don't know what's happening. And I tried to start again. And I just couldn't get the momentum and get moving. And I stopped and I prayed, and I asked people to pray and said, Well, maybe I'm, you know, forgetting.

And so I pulled out my notes and I understood every word on the page. I understood the sentence structure. I understood. the paragraphs but I couldn't seem to just bring it forth. Wow.

My wife at that time grabbed a whole lot of people, ladies in the church, ran out in the hallway and started praying. Come on, somebody. Thank God for my father. Oh, warfare. Come on, somebody.

So she did that, and sure enough, I was able to start moving in the sermon.

Now, I'll say that day that I delivered it, but I might have delivered it like a paper boy. It was somewhere in the yard. It might have not been on my paper. That's all right, as long as they got it. But I delivered it.

Went to my office after that and said, Lord, I don't know what just happened. But there's another service. Can you help me? Thank you, Jesus. And went back and did the other service.

That day I went home and I just slept. Yeah. The next day, I noticed some things starting to happen. I was really tired, fatigued. I began to have these massive headaches, and the headaches were just lasting for days and not leaving.

I began to. Substitute words.

So I would say Wow. That's a nice soda. Why did I say soda? That's a nice car you're driving. I started forgetting things.

Wow. And I started to have balance issues. And so that was enough to alarm my wife and I.

So I quickly went to the doctor. And I thank God for my doctors. They gave me a An emergency MRI. I didn't even know you could have an emergency MRI, but I had it with contrast and without contrast on that day. And what they were trying to figure out is if I had a brain tumor, a stroke.

Lyme disease or MS. Um Went home that night, and I had the results that night, and the results came back. Negative. My children were shocked that it came back positive with the brain, but it came back negative with any kind of ailment or anything. Thank you, Lord.

So they sent me to a neurologist, and I went to the neurologist, and she gave me some tests and she changed. She checked me out and she looked at my work and she said, you know, Mr. Dungey, I have to tell you that there's nothing wrong when I look at your data here. But I think I know what's happening. And I was You know, sitting on the edge of my seat, wondering what she's going to say, and she says, Before I Tell you what I think it is.

I need to ask you: what do you do for a living?

Now, when she asked that question, I'm thinking she thinks I'm working with chemicals or something. And so I just boldly and proudly said, oh, I'm a pastor. And she says, oh yes, I definitely know what this is. And I said, what? And she says, it's stress.

Wow. I said, you mean to tell me? That stress can cause neurological problems. And she said yes.

So right then I'm stressed. About being stressed. I mean, what are you going to do? What do you do, right? And.

I um End up going to a counselor and let me stop here to say this. Being a pastor for many years, I have worked with counselors. And it is never a shame for anyone to go to a counselor. There may be some people in your listening ear right now that are struggling with some things. You've had some trauma in your life.

You've had situations happen and it's beginning to be unbearable. And you need some help. Yeah, go to your pastor. I'm glad people would come to me. But when I noticed that it was something that was clinical, I would work with the counselor.

So I would always recommend that they would see someone along with seeing me.

So I took my own advice and I went to a counselor and the counselor said, well, I know what this is. This isn't just stress. This is chronic stress.

So this is stress that started years ago and your stress hormones have been on the go every waking moment of your life. I hear that, hear that. And it's caused your body. Your body can't handle it any longer. and your body is pushing back.

That was in 2017 and I began to seek them. We can go on this later, but I began to seek the Lord and talk to him and began to realize there's some rhythms and some things that I was omitting in my life and begin to adjust my life in a different way. And part of my transition was realizing that a lot of us are just living life and we are stressed out. Um Every day of our lives.

Now, I happen to believe that stress is the pool that Americans swim in.

So you can't really get rid of the pool. Yes. But you can determine how often you're in it. That's right. And so, you know, there's a series of things.

And so, part of the thing I do is I help people to process different rhythms in their life that will help them to. begin to not carry the burden. Of the stress. Yes. So that was one of the aspects, and one of the things that challenged me to kind of start doing things differently.

And since then, I can't tell you how many pastors I've talked to. How much? How many corporate people in corporate America I've spoken with, and how many church leaders and just people who, civic leaders that I've spoken with. that are saying, I'm just stressed out. I just, I don't know what to do.

With all of this. And so the ministry is helping people live their life in a way that will enable them to glory for God in their fullest. And I wasn't. I was, great things were happening. Awesome things were happening in the ministry.

But still, there was something that was happening on the inside of me that needed to be dealt with. Amen. You know, I think, especially where we at now, social media is exposing that pool that you're talking about, that stress pool, because there's so many people that they need to be significant. They need to be, they need that approval. And they're living under that standard and it's killing them.

And you just got, you know, me being in Christendom for some time, I've seen it. I've seen it in people's lives, you know, but you have to get into a place where you don't care anymore. All you need to worry about is your relationship with Christ. That's right. Now, people will always have their opinion and their views on.

You but when you focus on your relationship with Christ, nothing else matters. I heard that in your poem. Your palm. Come on, don't shoot the message. I'm just, hey, I'm sent by God.

You know what I mean? That's right. And that's some key things. You just have to get into a place when it's just you. That's why I'm looking forward to next weekend.

Yeah. You know, you just got to get into a place where it's just you and God. Nothing else matters. You know, I love my kids, love my family. I love all this.

But my relationship with Christ is the foundation of everything. Everything. It's the fullness of life. And I just wanted to share a scripture as we are on this topic. Matthew 11, 28 through 30.

And the Lord says, Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I. Will give you rest. Take my yoke up on you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest. For your souls, for my yoke is easy and my burden is light. I gotta apologize.

Y'all keep calling 336-896-1340. The phone's been blinking, but I was hitting the conversation. Y'all hitting us up. We're gonna show some love, y'all. Come on, represent your church, rep your church.

But, you know, we getting to it. But, you know, I love that. I love your testimony because that's what you call one of those silent killers. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. You know, the passage in Philippians. It says don't be anxious. Yes. Worrying.

Don't be anxious. For anything. Yes, Lord. Now why do you tell people not to be anxious? if anxiety is not there around the corner.

And so I think you experience anxiety then, you experience anxiety now. The causes of anxiety might change. The severity of it might change, but it's still there. And so we are not to be anxious, but the response, and this is one we can talk later, could talk more about it, but you know, one of the response to one of the ways to deal with anxiety is through prayer. Yes, Lord.

And it outlines it there. It just says, you know, don't be anxious for anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication. That's right. Make your request known. Unto the Lord.

I mean, it's a powerful thing. And a lot of us say, you know, we're praying, we're praying, we're praying. Um But sometimes our prayers are us just communicating. And Sometimes our prayers is to open meetings, closed meetings. We're praying in the car.

We're always praying on the go. But what you're getting ready to do this weekend is something I believe that we're all called to do. And that is to stop to pray. To spend time with the Lord, to commune with Him. Um And to fellowship with him.

Not even necessarily to go to him with your needs. Wow, that's it right there. To be with him. I have a saying that I say a lot of times. I say, if you around a bunch of Christians, if you say, I have to go pray, everybody's going to say, what's wrong?

Mm-hmm. The way we view prayer is that it is for crises. Not communion, not relationship, not fellowship. You know, I dissect that scripture when, you know, the scripture that says, that speaks on whatever you want, well, pray, and the Lord will give you whatever you want, you know, and all that stuff. And I broke that scripture down.

And that request, making your request known unto God, it's not talking about asking for stuff. It's talking about what is what that scripture is actually saying is that God is here and He's ready to answer your questions. See, so it's not He's not He's here to answer what you need or your prayer, He's ready to answer your questions, Lord. What's going on? You know what I mean?

What do I need to do next? You know, it's those questions that he wants you to answer. He's ready to answer your questions. He's not ready to give you everything that you ask. You know, and it's a big difference than that.

It's a big difference from praying for stuff and just seeking them.

Well, look at the passage that I talked about there. It's like the goal. when you read when you see in the next verse the gold is not to have the stuff. The goal is peace. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your heart and your mind in Christ Jesus.

Thank you. And so, a lot of times we think the goal is to get our stuff, the goal is peace. You know what? Amen. Come on, somebody.

That is so, you know, I was. You know, I got hurt in Minnesota. And I was being rolled.

Now, for me, the flesh was like, this is a bad time for you to say that, doctor. But I was being rolled into the surgery room. Yes. And my kids were there. And the doctor said to me, She said, you know what?

It's going to be a great possibility that you're going to wake up and be paralyzed for life. My kids start crying, you know what I mean? And, you know, my flesh is like, that's kind of bad to say I'm on my way. But then I was just sitting there like, calm. I'm like, it's all right, y'all.

I was, you know, I had that peace on me. It was like, no matter what happened, I'm in God. I'm good. You know what I'm saying? And that was really my mindset.

It's one that it's like, kids won't understand that. The peace that surpasses understanding. Yes, Lord Jesus. Because my little ones are looking at me like, why ain't you worried? You know what I mean?

Like, you know, whatever. And Matthew 6 and 8 says that, you know, God knows what you need before you even ask. Hello, he's omnipresent. He can see all things. He knows.

So now this trial test, faith, whatever it is, it has come to prove your faith genuine.

Now it's time for you to prove your sonship. Are you going to trust me in the midst of it? Are you going to continue to worship me in the midst of it? Are you going to stay faithful in the midst of it? midst of it.

That is what it's for. Hey, we're going to have to take a break right quick. See, I, you know, this is my conversation. I love talking about the Lord. I hope y'all love the topic.

I love the topic. I hope y'all love listening about the Lord. Amen. Because the Lord is mighty and greatly to be praised. Amen.

In whatever situation or circumstances you're in. Every situation. Hallelujah. Hey, we're going to go to a break. Hey, the number is 336-896-1340.

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It's been a long. They said I only got 15 seconds. Big. I'll take it. My mm.

Lord, I'm feeling so misunderstood. They acting like I'm bad, but trying to do something good. And all I hate and it's twisting my Come here. Love them past the hate and let them know you love the hood. You told us, love the orphan.

These kids ain't got no fathers. We were playing cots and rivals.

Now they died and cops are rubbing. Our babies getting murdered while they still inside. They mama's feeling like we lost them. And it's kind of like my job to find them. And they show you.

To hearing lies, they feel like I'm lying. They think I'm trying to shine, but inside I feel like I'm dying.

Society left us behind, they was tired of trying. You can save them, but I'm not. They keep denying that they're driving riots.

Some denied a void, some feel it with a drug. That's only temporary. What they need is your love. I see a change. Coming, I gotta say something It's just a matter of simple It's gone.

More time coming. But I know you ain't gonna come. It's gon' love. More time coming. But I know you ain't gonna come.

Shame gon' come. Seems like the love is little, but the hate is plenty. The world is on your shoulders. I know the weight is heavy. I work a nine to five.

I feel your pain within me. It's for the money, dummy. I ain't made a penny. This for your kids and mine. Gotta reverse the damage and hearse the fathom.

How yo, we letting the hearses have them. How many kids would be alive if it wasn't for them? Throwing up a kicker gang sign. You tell me if I'm mine. Straight up, that's real talk.

You see the ground, that's real talk. These teenagers get built off. The big shit like that gets sent off. And they can only learn what we teach em if it's only 15 seconds. That I'm getting, I'm a preacher.

Let's go. More time coming. Shame. There's no more. More time coming.

Shame gon' come. I feel it coming. I'm sick and tired of running.

Somebody gotta stand up. If I change No, you want it. How do you want it? Ain't you tired of the same old things? Cause I done been down every road that you can take.

Now I'm on a When it leaves. Could change. I've been there done that field down to make people change. Hey, this is Gary McGee, pastor of Restoration Community. Church.

Winston Salem. and I encourage you to listen to my brother Dwayne Kennedy on his program Bridging the Gap on the light radio. Amen, amen, amen. We back, we back. All right, so I brother will dungee.

Pastor and entrepreneur. We got him in as our guest, our very special guest today. And he has given us so much awesome wisdom. And we want to get his information. How can we contact you?

What's the name of your business? And how can we take advantage of your business? Oh, okay, great. Thank you. Uh can tag.

Solutions is the name of my business. Um you can email me. And my email is W-I-L-L. At Can tag solutions.

So that's C-A-N-T-A-G solutions. And that solutions with an S on the end of it. Dot com, will at cantag solutions.com. Or you can call three three six. 420-1811.

Amen. All right. And so, what services do you offer with Cantag Solutions?

Well, first of all, let me share a little bit about CanTag, and then that'll help you with the services. CanTag, the name Cantag, deals with my view of discipleship, coaching, mentoring. When I grew up, I grew up in JT Harrison Homes, which is right behind Smith Homes and Greensboro and Hampton Homes.

So the project area of Greensboro, if you can say Greensboro has that. And when we would play tag, we wanted to make sure that a person was tagged. And so you couldn't just brush by somebody. We needed to have full contact. And if they got knocked down, that was okay too.

But we needed to have full contact. Um once you made full contact then that person became it. Also. Tag, you're it.

So that means that at the end of the game, you have a whole lot of people who are it. And so, like I said, that's my idea. Of ministry, of discipleship, that we don't just brush by people. We don't just throw scriptures at them. We don't just enter their life for a little moment.

Pull kind of things at them. Come on. You make a full contact. Yes. And when you make a full contact, then they should turn around and say, I have been poured into.

Um Now I'm looking around and I'm saying I can tag too.

So CANTAG comes from the whole idea of Cantag 2. Amen. The other thing is an acronym also, which also means changing a nation through a generation. And the piece people ask me all the time, why did you put solutions on the end of your coaching business? I said, because you know, discipleship is a process.

Yes, it is. Mentoring, coaching is a process. Um There's movement. You're not stuck. It might not be movement that you can see right away, but there is movement happening.

And so, what we're saying is that we're seeing that there's a solution, there's a movement happening in your life. And so CanTag Solutions. What we offer. Um is I'm a coach and I take a lot of what I learned as a shepherding pastor. My heart is to be with people.

I spend a lot of time just caring for people and helping them walk through processes and that's what I do now. I help you walk through processes. I'm really strong in helping people with relationships. That's whether relationships at work or relationships in the community or relationship with your spouse.

So I help people try to figure out how does all of this work? How does the team supposed to work together? How am I going to work with this person? I also offer just one-on-one coaching to help you process where you are in your life and then strengths coaching where I look at your strengths. You might be familiar with Clifton's strengths with Gallup and I help people understand their strengths.

In addition to that, I do speaking and workshops and retreats. That's right. So if y'all want to contact Brother Will Dungy, what's the number again? 336-420-1811. That's right now.

And you know, you did cover the three emphasis of the letters. Can you share that with the listeners the three reasons why they were written? Which oh can tag?

Well, no, no, the the letters of this of of the yeah you're talking about to the to the saints yeah yeah because that goes along with what you're with your God then yeah, so I believe that the letters for me the big boxes that I put it in is that the letters were to give sound doctrine Um Also it was They were answering questions. The saints had questions, they said, well, hey, what about this? And then there's a response back. But also it was to handle The relationships, the people that are in the church, to say, this is how you're supposed to live when you're with each other. This is how you worship together.

This is how you interact with one another. You know, that's one thing that I stand on. I understand that the Bible, the scriptures, The scriptures Aren't written to everybody. The scriptures are written to the individuals. The Believe.

So the the Bible is first to the individual. It's to the individuals that receive it. You know, the truth, truth does not have to be proven. Truth is just a fact. You don't have to prove truth.

Truth is received. You know, so the Bible itself is for the individuals, it's for the individuals. Many are called, but few are chosen. It's for the individual, and it's a guideline for the individual. See, a lot of times we take that book.

And we want to throw it on somebody else, but you know, it ain't for them because they want to stay in their stuff, you know what I'm saying? But it's for the individual first, and then it's for us to share, you know, to share in love. And I think they missed out on that. But those scriptures, you know, it's just like what you were saying. It's to edify the church, it's to show the do's and the don'ts.

It's to say, like Jesus said, I didn't come to change the old covenant. I came to amend the old covenant. This is how you did it then, but this is it. This is how we do it now. That's right.

We did it like this then, but hey, this is how we do it now. You know, so all of those things came into place so that the individual can receive it. And I love it. I love your name and the responsibility that the Lord has placed on you to achieving what you're out doing. Thank you.

That's awesome. Thank you. And Jesus, I just wanted to put it out there. He was very relational, very relational, relationship-driven. And he gave us a scripture here in 1st John 4 and 20 says that if a man says, I love God and hated his brother, he is a liar.

For he that loveth not his brother, whom he hath seen, Okay, if he does not love his brother who has sing, How can he love God who he has not seen? And that is 1 John 4 and 20.

So it is basically how we love one another. What I'm getting from that is. How we love one another is an extension of how we love God. Our relationship with God is now extended out to one another. Love is the better way.

That's not a catchy phrase for today. That's not something that I am speaking and saying, oh, wouldn't we just like to say love is the better way? And let's make a t-shirt. Yeah. It's what Paul said.

Man. When Paul was talking in 1 Corinthians about the gifts in chapter 12. He asked. And even the callings. All apostles are all that say he goes through this whole list.

And then he says You need to covet the best gifts or covet the gifts, but I want to show you a more excellent way. Yes, Lord Jesus. And then he launches into chapter 13. about love. Love is.

the more excellent way. Love is the better way. And he said that if I can give my body to the flames, I can give my riches to the poor, I can prophesy, I can teach, preach, prophesy, but if I have not love, And what he said, it means nothing. Love is the first and foremost. Love is why Jesus came.

And love is what we're sharing. You know, when we share the gospel and we display that to one another, and the world is watching us, how we display this. And we misrepresented way too often. And this is why the world doesn't take a lot of us seriously. You know, you pointed out because, you know, we started the scripture for the day was regarding spiritual warfare.

Yes. And uh Uh, speaking with uh uh Dr. Will, I don't know why I want to call you Dr. Will, Dr. Will, but speaking to uh Will Dungeee earlier.

He made a good point because we're talking about the armor of God, but 18, it ends talking about this love, you know? It talks about. Um perseverance in prayer. and covering one another. And so we're talking about spiritual warfare here today.

That's one of the topics. We didn't get to touch it as much as we were going to. But one of the things is that he talks about the armor and we go through the whole deal with the armor.

Now the armor means that you are in war. Yes. Now he also addresses who you're fighting. Yeah, who are we fighting? You're fighting principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places.

So, the other question is: who are you not fighting? You're not fighting one another. And even in Ephesians, to understand the cleverness of Paul, he talks in Ephesians all about relationships. He talks about the church and the people coming together. He then goes in and talks about the husband and the wife.

He talks about the children and the parents. He talks about the servant and the boss. And then he says, In six. I've been talking about all these flesh and blood. But you don't fight against those people.

Yes, that's right. You don't fight against flesh and blood. Lord help us. You fight against principalities. Yes.

Where if I don't fight against flesh and blood, And I have on this armor. I have on armor and you have on armor. When we read this passage, because of our if i can take this from you brother our american way of looking at things is individualistic.

So we see ourselves ourselves in the war against principalities. We are not by ourselves. He's talking to the church here. And so if I am in a war, I'm dressed for war, I have soldiers beside me. Yes.

Now, anytime you're in a war, and this is what I understand, you served in this service, sister, so help us out. Military guarantee. That's what I understand. Air Force. What I understand about war is that when you're on the battlefield, one of the things that you have to do is look out for one another.

That's right. You're wingman.

So we love to talk about. The armor. But we miss verse 18. And verse 18 says, with all prayer and petition, Pray at all times in the spirit and with this in view, be on the alert. With all perseverance and petition for all the saints.

So I'm dressed for armor. I'm not fighting my brother. I'm not fighting my sister. We're warring against principalities. We're warring against systems and structures set up by the enemy.

But while we're warring, we have each other's back. We have each other's back in prayer. And so we're warring against the enemy and we're praying for each other. And I'm watching you and I'm watching you to make sure that the enemy is not getting a foothold. That when his sword, when the when he gets ready to attack you and come against you, and you're not watching, I'm praying and I'm holding up the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

Come on, somebody. Y'all don't hear me. Yes, Lord. This is what we are about. That's how we fight.

We fight the enemy. Not one another. Not one another. Thank you, Jesus. Watch out for one another.

He said, Watch as well as pray. Yeah, come on.

So I'm praying for all saints. Yes, Lord. Here's the deal: all saints.

So my neighbor and I don't have to go to the same church. Yes. For me to be. Covering him in prayer. Hallelujah.

Yes. Thank you, Lord.

That's right. And so, in and listeners, you can find this all of what we're speaking on about spiritual warfare in Ephesians chapter 6 and really kind of focus on chapter 6, Ephesians, verses 10 through 24. And we know that what we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against powers, rulers of darkness, principalities, spiritual wickedness in high places. And we have identified that. Satan, he is our enemy.

Amen. And we got to be what? We have to study his devices and his schemes. And what are some of their devices? His devices and schemes.

Minister Duane, you want to help us out?

Well, you know, let's identify some of those things.

Well, you know, I. I you know, he you know, we we know what the adversary, how to have it, we're not we know how he moved. You know, see, I heard the Bible call him a liar, an accuser, a tempter. He is the adversary, and he's a thief.

So let's bring it all down.

Well, one thing I want to say is this. is that all of the weapons Are defensive weapons. If you look at the weapons, all of them are defensive, but one. And that's the word of God. That's the sword, you know?

Yes, sir. And see, see, we, we. We argue amongst ourselves, we bicker amongst ourselves, we fight amongst ourselves. And we're talking about Christian folks, you know, and that's what they do. That's what they do, that's what we do.

And the thing about it is, like Jesus, Jesus, everything that came up when he was when he was on, when he was in the desert place, everything that Satan brought to him was. Defended by the word. Yes. You know, so just speak the word. Just speak the word.

Everything else is defense. You know, the breastplate, you know, if you look at an armor, you know, because that was a parable. And let's just break that down since you didn't put it on now there. We got to make sure they get these weapons in place. Amen.

So here we go. The whole armor of God, the belt of truth. Come on, somebody. That's knowing that truth. That's knowing that truth.

Truth. Breastplate of righteousness. I call them battle boots. Y'all, that's my little nickname for the battle boots of a gospel of peace, the shield of faith, the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God.

So, truth, righteousness, the gospel of peace, faith, salvation, and the word of God that is going to slay the enemy any given day. Wow. And, you know, those are things. If you look at the, well, in that time, because you know, that was actually a parable to Jesus because they can relate to those things, you know? And the thing about them, all those things, you know, it's so needed in battle.

Yes, but your sword, your sword, the word, that word is your weapon. And if you resist the devil, he will flee. That's James 4 and 7. But if you don't resist him and you entertain them, he ain't going nowhere. You know, can I say together about that?

So, how do we resist? Is the question. You know, well, so let's go.

Well, no, if you have you go ahead and give us how you do it. I was just gonna say, I was gonna just say, there's a lot of carnal Christians out here. Yes, you know, and we need to be spiritual Christians. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

You know, a lot of times when I think about, well, what is resistance and what does that look like? Um I think about we're supposed to put on Christ. We're supposed to put on bows, have bowels of compassion. We're supposed to put on. Christ.

Yeah. So I think of it as a basketball team. The very fact of that I'm wearing a jersey that isn't like my opponent. and I'm listening to a different coach. automatically puts me in resistance.

To the Mm-hmm. What puts us in resistance? is following Jesus. And living as he called us to. That causes us to be in resistance.

to the enemy right there. Yes, Lord. Following Jesus. and living the life that he called us.

So lit, I know. To to the letter. Come on, somebody. Great at 100. You know, we got to go through that break.

We got one more break. We had a Short entry. We came in a little late today, and then things weren't working the way we hoped them to.

So it's almost over right now. But to God be the glory. Hallelujah. We're packing it with power. That's all right.

Keeping it live. I like to play one of my man, Elder Byron Busy B mixes, but I don't know if we're going to have time because the conversation is so good.

So let's go to a break and we'll come back with some more comments. Don't touch that down. We're keeping it live on the light. Yeah a lot of times I've talked myself out of things I had doubts, I had fears that held me back times I had to tell myself that my complaints miss me with that long with others with those same doubts about me Miss me with the negativity Go ahead. Miss me with that, miss me with that.

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Who's hard isn't right? His grace is for all. He gives it out. without charge in the price. I've been bought with a price.

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whole prayer for this town. Lord help us stand in the gap. And we snatching them back sitting as no. Authority hibbing if it's only We the majority here and I'm putting the bloodstained banner in the territory Mm-hmm. My spirit is grieved by things that I hear and see and I can't take any more I'm sorry.

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Really on car, yeah. Really on car, yeah. Amen, amen. Amen. We back.

We keeping it live. I'm hoping I haven't. a safe and sanctified Saturday. And we got our brother in the studio. Will Dungey in the building.

Hallelujah. And he's dropping them bombs of knowledge over here, ain't he? Oh, yes. All these good wisdom nuggets. I'm putting them in my pocket.

You better know this. And so the topic tonight was spiritual warfare. And where to find it? Ephesians chapter 6, verses 10 through 24. And we're discussing putting on the whole armor of God.

And so let's get back into it. Spiritual warfare. Come on. One thing I know is that we can't live in fear, even though we know that battles arise. God has not given us a spirit of fear, right?

Amen. But a power and of love and of a sound mind. And so we know that we don't live in fear. We're not fearful of the enemy. He has given us power over the enemy through Christ.

So we just need to be prepared for battle. Amen. Amen. And you know, like the helmet of salvation, that's a helmet that He gave us. You know, He gave us that helmet because we don't have any control for salvation.

So He gave us that helmet.

So there's some things in there that we have to do, you know, like He was talking about them boots. You know, we have to walk in them boots. We have to put them boots on. We have to get that word done. The battle boots.

The gospel of peace. Hallelujah. And then that truth, you know, like I said earlier, you know, the truth. You don't have to prove the truth, the truth is received.

So either you receive it, and you know, you can get deep in scripture, you see Jesus, you know. He opens up that door, you know, but the truth is received. You know, and once you receive the truth. Then you start walking, you start walking in that righteousness. And I tell you, man, it's a great.

I had a conversation with some people earlier this week, and we got deep into the salvation, salvation and justification.

So it just went, you know. But at the end of the conversation, and to me, it's a blessing. At the end of the conversation, they are woken because this was like one of my, this is one, and I call him a friend, but this is one of my Hebrew brothers, Hebrew Israelites. All right now, Hebrew Israelites. But at the end of the day, he received truth.

And I was just so blessed. It's a blessing. You know, one of the things we did in the military, we studied the enemy. And I think it is very important to know Satan's devices and his schemes so that we can be vigilant, be ready, and alert for when they come. And so we were just kind of discussing what some of those were.

I believe one of them, to me, what I've experienced in my walk, is confusion. Um, confusion is a great device Satan uses even in our families, in our marriages, in our ministries. Um, just confusion. That's that's one big one. And, um, I would say, um, Definitely uh depression, stress.

That's a device that he uses. He prompts us, prompts our thoughts, plants negative thoughts in our minds. And I heard the word says to bring those thoughts back into subjection of the Holy Spirit.

So we need to cast that negative thought down and plead the blood of Jesus over it and surrender it and submit our will, mind, and emotions to the Lord. Um And so, any other devices and schemes that you all have identified in your walk with Lord? With the Lord. I tell you one thing: my biggest thing was confusion, you know, because the Bible tells me that he's not the author of confusion. That's right.

So, if I see a state of confusion, not being confused about something or what your direction, but a state of just drama and chaos and foolishness, you know, that tells me automatically God ain't in it because he's not the author of that. That's right. So, I'm quick to identify the adversary in that word. Yeah. Yeah.

So, but there's so many. I think also the lack of faith. You know, I was talking to someone, I put a post up about the good seed, the seed that fell on this ground and that ground. But one of them, you know, fell that one of the seeds fell into the thorns. And the scripture says that those are the ones that hear the word, that hear the word of God, but because of the cares of the world and what's going on outside.

Church, come on now. The gospel is just crumbled up and it's this, you know, has no life. But yeah, so the world itself, just being a kid, you know, just distractions, like you said, in this world, in this time, and our filled with distractions. I mean, I feel like anything that takes my focus off of Jesus is not of God, period. Amen.

One of the things that I think the enemy uses is division to keep us separated. Thank you, Lord.

The kingdom of God. is not divided. Christ is not divided. His body should not be divided. We are one.

And so. When we don't do the hard work to have a relationship. We don't do the hard work. to um enter in, to try to understand each other. And You know, I don't know if...

Everyone everywhere is always going to be on the same page. Yes. But can we Love one another. And can we operate as the body of Christ? I have no business to slandering you just because you are at so-and-so denomination or you are at this church.

As long as you're naming the name of Christ, I gotta be careful and you should be careful with your mouth anytime, but I gotta be careful about what I say. About my brothers and my sisters. We are the body of Christ. Amen. Period.

Period. So I gotta honor you well. Um And so, division, keeping us divided. You know, you know, I hear a lot of pastors, and you know. Like I said, one thing I like doing is clarifying scripture.

I hear pastors, and the kingdom of God suffered violence, and the violence will, you know, take it by force. But you know what? You know what? That's talking about what the enemy is doing. That ain't talking about the saints.

That's telling us what the enemy is doing to the kingdom of God and how he's coming in violently and taking things through all of these things that we're talking about. People need to wake up, man. You can't misquote scriptures and preach about me, you know. And I just be amazed by that. But, you know, what I'm just trying to, the point I'm trying to make is this: you know, we need to know his devices because he comes up and he's not, that's his job.

You know, that's his job. We can't get mad at him from doing his job. What we got to do is get on post. And I'm going to say this because I feel led to say this right here. See, if Satan cannot.

If he cannot distract your faith. Then he can come in and distract you from being effective serving the Lord. I don't know if they resonate with nobody else, but it's like if he can't pull you out of the church, at least he's gonna get you to the point where you can't be effective in the church. You won't be able to, you know what I'm saying? You're distracted to where you can't be effective in your call, your purpose in the Lord.

You know, anything that can come in and distract that. If he can't take your faith, he will definitely try to take your purpose. Yeah. Well, yeah, you know, he throws little, you said it earlier, he throws little things, things in there, try to get people to discredit you, try to get people to look at you funny, you know, and then you feel that. And the reality of it is, that's all his, that's his, that's his task.

That's his job, you know. And us as being, we need to put on, that's why he said, put on the full armor. The full armor. See, because when he does those things, and he throws, you are protected. You have your defensive gear on the shield of faith.

You know. And in Mark 3, I just want to make this a highlight as we're talking about it. And you said it, Brother Will. Mark chapter 3 and 25 says, come on now. Here we go.

A house divided against itself. that house will not be able to stand. She'll not. There's power in unity. You know, so we have to um it's like, okay, we we may not agree we can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

Amen. And I think communication is another way to fight the enemy. If you have effective communication. And because if you really, really love someone, you want the true message of your heart to come across. Amen.

You know, we don't talk at one another. We talk to one another. We come in and communicate.

Sorry. And the Lord said that if we have an issue with one another, this is the Bible. I can look it up right fast for you. But he said, if we have an issue with one another, we go to that person. You go to them and you resolve the issue because everything is about love.

And if we're not coming together and working together to the end result of doing God's will and being effective in His will. then we're really defeating the purpose. Amen. Amen. And that goes on and on.

You know, you're so right. I was going to say, you're touching on that marriage course already. Come on, Jesus. Won't he do it? Won't he do it?

Because we're going to have a segment dealing with marriage. And if your wife is listening, Mr. Dungeee, we were inquiring about her coming down here too on the show.

So just so she knows, you know, that we were talking about it. She is. Yes, Miss Cam Dungeee. She's not coming down here. Come on down to the station, my sister.

But yes, I just wanted to point out one more scripture. Y'all know we love that word right here on the light. 2 Corinthians 10 and 4 says: the weapons of our warfare are not carnal. Weapons of this world, they're not carnal but mighty in what the pulling down of strongholds.

Okay, they're a divine power to demolish strongholds.

So, y'all meditate on that. Take that home with you tonight. Let the Lord speak to you. And no matter what, let us love one another. Love, I believe, what conquers the enemy's goals too.

Love conquers the enemy. You preaching, amen, amen.

So, let's give a couple shout-outs because we get a shout-out the air a little bit. Come on, who you want to give a shout-out, brother Will. I want to give a shout out to several people. I want to give a shout out to my beautiful wife, Cam. Hey, Ms.

Cam. And to my wonderful children, my son, who is a junior in college. Joshua, I love you, bro, if you're listening. And to my precious daughter, Jessica Alley, I love you, who is a junior in high school. You better go, girl.

Yes. And then probably my mom's listening and my mother-in-law.

So I love y'all. Love y'all, family. Who you want to give a shout out to, Minister DeWan? You know, I always give a shout out to Pastor Kurt. He started this with me.

Give a shout out to Pastor Kurt Lady Friday and the Love Church family. Love Charlie. And then I always like to give, you know, the Bible tells us to give double honor to certain people. And I like to give a shout out to Stu Epperson. Stu Epperson Jr.

He's still president of the company here, Truth Network. But, you know, there's a lot of people that do things in the unseen that affects the scene. Yeah. And I take my hat off to them, to a big stew, little stew, because they are doing things in the community that most people don't even know that they're involved in. Yeah, God bless you all.

They love y'all. Yeah, and it's not like they go around tooting their horn, but they believe in ministry. And those are the kind of people I love being around, people that believe in the outpouring of ministry. Yes, before we wrap it up, I know we're getting ready to go off. I just want to give a shout out to the love of my life, Mark Abel McNeilly Jr., and my baby Mark McNeely the third, a little JCL McNeely, and of course, everybody at the Beth in Need Fellowship Christian Outreach Center.

We love you all. Shout outs to Apostle and First Lady Holiday. We love y'all. We're keeping it live on the light. We're going to go ahead and pray.

Also, do we have time for the prayer? Yep. Okay. So, um, if you're listening to this program tonight and you are, um, In need of coming back in connection with the Lord, and you need prayer right now. And if you have been in a backslidden condition, we want you to pray with us right now.

Heavenly Father, I know I have sinned and have fallen short of your glory, and I ask for forgiveness. I believe Jesus Christ is your son. I believe that he died for my sin and that you raised him to life. I will trust you as my savior and follow you as my Lord from this day forward. Guide my life.

Help me to do your will. And I pray this in Jesus Christ's name.