Massive market sell off continues; Trump still confident in rebound

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmead Show.

So glad you're here.

Sorry, just closed that door. My mistake. I should have closed it before the show started. Big hour coming your way. We're in Miami at Doral at the Trump National Golf Course, where the Live is having their big tournament.

Of course, Fox. It's big for Fox because Fox Sports is going to be televising it. It's going to be thoroughly interactive, almost like the UFL of football, because the UFL allows you great access, and that's what Fox is doing for the first time. And I bring this up because President Trump, along with trying to get peace, Iran to give up their nuclear weapons, peace between Ukraine and Russia. He also is trying to get Live and the PGA to live in one world together and kind of merge tours and have a World Series at the end of the year.

It would seem cool, but according to sources, it's a long way away. Remember, Live is that Saudi fund startup that has some of the best golfers, John Rahm, Brooks Kepke, Uh we have um Take use this one. Brooks Kepka and so many others who are Phil Mickelson is here too, Bubba Watson.

So we'll talk about that. The President's really into it. In fact, the President was here about 12 hours ago giving a speech right after reorganizing World Trade.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. Talk about a big cover-up. We've been talking a lot about Donald Trump lately. You know, I just want to ask a simple question: who in the heck was running the country?

If the president's mental acuity was in question and some days he's on and some days he's off, was the guy really capable of doing the job? Living a lie, and now we know it for sure. We knew it then. More horrific details on a failing Joe Biden as president. He couldn't do the job and didn't do the job.

America has owed an apology and an explanation from the people that covered it up. Number two. And now we're going to pass the largest tax cuts in American history, and that's where we're relying on Mike and Jon Thuon. One big beautiful bill. I'd like to name it that if you can't.

We'll see about naming it. We'll see if they can pass it. There's going to be a vote today, a Voterama, where people can offer their amendments to it. But it's going to be one big bill to make the tax cuts permanent. Things like no taxes on tips and Social Security a reality.

At the same time, have a paid for along the way. And when I talk about making the tax cuts permanent, I'm talking about 2017 cuts that Trump passed four years ago. We'll see where the big beautiful deal is and what it means for the overall economy, which right now is in shock. Number one. Day, it's recession day.

It's chaotic. He says one thing one day and another thing the next day. Donald Trump may not understand the impact of his tariffs on people's pocketbooks, but the public understands his impact. He is betraying people who have no trust in him. There we go.

Tariff aftermath. The markets Iraq Thursday. And what does it mean for today? We're going to talk about the nation-to-nation deals in retaliation and why this is about the American worker. We'll discuss all that.

First off, President Trump is pretty relaxed. I talked to people who saw him at the speech here at the Doral last night. He was very relaxed. Bryson DeChambeau just told me he was smiling, making jokes. He gave a funny speech.

At the same time, he offered some of the biggest tax adjustments in the history of the country. Massive tariffs are handed out to balance things out. And we expected retaliations or others to make offers. Number one, Israel came out and said, let's zero out the tariffs, but they were still on the tariff list, which is, I find, a little disturbing, because if you make a deal, you should honor the deal. India also has come to the table.

Good.

So, how is that going to affect Trump's tariffs? I'd love to see an announcement. I think the markets would like that too. And you immediately got a deal from those two countries. And then you got retaliation this morning while we were on the air on Fox and Friends.

China has retaliated. Not surprisingly, with 35 percent tariffs on everything. They looked at 11 American companies and they've said they are unreliable. And we're going to do an investigation. They'll halt all chicken imports from America.

Next target's going to be big pharma, the pharmaceuticals.

So Trump is not worried about it. He expected it. But if people are smart, maybe they'd come to the table right away. Here's what the President said. Last night, cut to.

It's to be expected. We're uh this is a patient that was very sick. We inherited we really inherited a terrible economy, as you know, with a lot of problems, including uh loss of manufacturing and You know we've lost we're going to do this. Because we don't Make anything here. We don't make anything here at all, and we are incapable of answering the call in an emergency.

What I find really disturbing is the Pentagon uses a lot of this rare earth and a lot of Chinese parts for our drones and for our missile systems. Are you kidding me? Whose idea was that? How could that not have been stopped? But China has already stopped, started leveling off on the rare earth for these new electric cars and everything else that is so-called clean energy, green energy.

But that was before this whole tariff war. That was with Joe Biden in office. But right now, the markets are rocked. The markets dropped again. It's now under $40,000.

What they need is real signs that the big, beautiful bill in the Senate is on the right track. I want you to hear somebody you have not heard from, but you know his initials, JG, Jamison Greer. He is the U.S. trade representative. This is what it's about.

This is about balancing our trade. This is what he told Larry Kudlow last night, Cut 7. We've had a world trading system for the past 70 years that may have been fit for. Purpose at the time, but very clearly, at least over the past decade or two, we've seen it failing the United States. We've seen China becoming the net winner of the trading system.

And when that's the result of the trading system, you know you need to change the system. And President Trump understands that. And for him, it's an emergency. For the country, it's an emergency. We have this huge trade deficit.

President Biden left us with the highest trade deficit in human history: $1.2 trillion. And it hollows out our manufacturing base. And this new program is set to resolve that emergency, reshore manufacturing, and restore American prosperity.

So, and part of that would be what Jon Thune is trying to pass in the Senate. Current tariff revenue, $50 billion. The target, $500 to $1 trillion. U. S.

imports are $3 trillion that we're taking in. We're great consumers. $20 trillion a year giving leverage.

So the trade imbalance right now, cars entering Europe face a 10 percent tariff. European cars entering the US, 2.5 percent. We're balancing that out now. Leveling tariffs could incentivize domestic manufacturing. But the problem is and the challenge is, I'm not saying insurmountable, is that you just can't snap your fingers and And start manufacturing.

The framework is not even there. It literally is rusted out in many cases. For example, the textile industry. We got almost nothing. We do almost nothing here.

It's going to affect small boutiques. It's going to affect big companies. And they're also looking to cut taxes and using the surplus.

So there are two mindsets. One mindset is Donald Trump saying, I want to cut new deals. And that will, in the long run, help us almost immediately. And the other part of Donald Trump's brain is: I want more revenue so I don't have to depend so much on the income tax, which started really under Woodrow Wilson in the 1920s. If you look at the history of taxes in America, so where is the big beautiful bill at?

They're going to get absolutely no Democratic help. Maybe Fetterman in theory, but not likely.

So where is that at?

Well, they're going to have a voter rama today, and the Democrats are under so much pressure to show so-called fight that I think they're going to really milk this. But here is President, here is. Senator Lindsey Graham on the bill that he's putting together that has everything wanted by Trump right away, one bill, which the Senate said would be almost impossible to pass. I guess they've changed their tune. Cut 15.

No Democrat is going to help us cut your taxes, secure your border, give additional money to the military. They're not going to do any of that stuff. We are. We've had the House, the Senate, and the White House Republicans four times in the last hundred years. The Democrats did Obamacare through reconciliation and the infrastructure bill through reconciliation, not counting on us.

We have a historic opportunity to make the tax cuts permanent. To fully fund the border plan for four years without one Democratic vote, help the military and cut trillions of spending without one Democratic vote being needed. If we can work together today, 5248, we move forward. We'll be voting tomorrow night, probably in the middle of the night. And that's what will happen, and hopefully, through the weekend.

Guys, grind it out. Don't go home. Enough of the going home. You cannot do that. With the Dow dropping and people needing reassurance to know that tax cuts are coming and there's some sense to stability would certainly help.

The problem is, knuckleheads like Senator Rand Paul, he's not going to begin the debate. He's going to be a problem. He likes to stay on the outside. There are moderates like Senator Susan Collins, and keep in mind. Very hard for a Republican to win in Maine unless you're a moderate.

So don't get all angry at her. At least she voted to bring it to a votarama. Senator McKowski, also going along, Mitch McConnell, is for this, I think. He's not for tariffs, but he's for the big, beautiful bill. But the problem is people like Grand Paul, who are in their own world, like Thomas Massey, look, you could stand for things, but you also should stand together with the party because the alternative is epic fail.

And then you lose an election, you're in the minority.

Somebody keep the big picture in mind.

Now, on the House side, they're not thrilled with this. Jody Arrington, the budget chair, says the Senate's plan is fiscally responsible and predicted it wouldn't fly with his colleagues, but it's fundamentally, there's a lot of pluses there. Would it add to the deficit? In theory, yes. But the whole growth thing is what the administration feels as though is underscored by the CBO.

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Listen and follow now at FoxNewsPodcast.com. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. But I don't deny that it was a bad debate performance. That's different than whether or not the president is up to the job.

He's clearly up to the job. He's doing it every day. He's doing it successfully. That is Ron Coyne flat out lying. I mean, you now hear in these myriad of books, including a The co-authors who we're going to be talking to on the Friday show about Joe Biden's failure and behind the scenes leading up to and through.

The debate which collapsed his whole candidacy and his career. You find out these stories now about him walking into fundraisers and just walking past the fundraiser and saying the same story verbatim three times in a row and having to read off cards to a group of ten and just walking out of debate prep. Walking out and just sitting by the pool. I mean, who does this? This is a guy that had to take off a week from being president to get ready for one debate that he called for in June.

And Ron Klain, who no one knows it better, worked more with him, saying it was just one bad debate performance when he knows that is a flat-out lie. Anybody who cared about this guy should never have let him run again. Here's Shermichael Singleton on another network last night, CNN Cut 18. Talk about a big cover-up. I mean, we've been talking a lot about Donald Trump lately.

You know, I just want to ask a simple question: who in the heck was running the country? If the President's mental acuity was in question and some days he's on and some days he's off, Was the guy really capable of doing the job day to day? I honestly really question that. You question it. Read the book.

He couldn't do the job day to day. They put new shoes on him. They gave him baby stairs. They stopped letting the press talk to him. They gave him note cards to address his own cabinet.

His defense secretary disappears and he didn't think it was even a big deal. He only had eight cabinet meetings in four years in office. The reason why KJP had nothing to say is because he was doing absolutely nothing. Read some of these anecdotes. Newt Gingrich, by the way, you've got to see Kevin McCarthy in one of these stories.

Kevin McCarthy gets invited to the White House. And I'll just paraphrase what happened. He all of a sudden says, with one of these, after he called for a congresswoman who had died on legislation, he wanted to know if she was there.

Meanwhile, she had died two weeks before to make it up to the family. They invited the family for a White House tour, at which time he says, let's go outside. And his wife goes, no, don't go outside. They want to see you inside. And he brings him to the locker room by the bowling alley.

And Kevin McCarthy is there to meet with him and decides I'm going to go on the tour. There was no one with Joe Biden as he brings his family around. And Kevin McCarthy realizes this guy kid is not in charge of his own body. He goes, why are we showing this family a locker room? Of course, so he had to go in there and tell the president this is where you go and brought him back to the Oval Office.

This is the former Speaker of the House. This is the book. This is before the debate.

So please don't tell me that anybody acts responsible. Newt Gingrich is hearing about this and waiting, Cut 21. Either there has to be a joint House-Senate committee.

Well, there has to be a special commission. I mean, I have to say. In all the years I've studied both as a history teacher And as a you know, elected official. The idea. That these people knew.

And it's pretty clear now that a lot of them knew. That he was gone. And it raises the question. Who was the the President of the United States during this period. or who were 'cause it may have been a group.

I mean, it's an astonishing moment. And I think it requires a very in-depth look. Day by day. at the decisions that were made, Were they really made by the President? Or they're made by a staff.

Guys, I hate to tell you, he's 100% right. If this was Donald Trump, there would be a myriad of investigations. I know we have so much to look at. We got tariffs to talk about. This Joe Biden couldn't be further from Americans' consciousness, but Newt nailed it.

The bigger story is. Who is running the country? Whose decisions were they being made? And I bring you back to an anecdote that Speaker Johnson has mentioned a bunch of times. Out of nowhere, at a time in which they're trying to convince the country of Kamala Harris's that she's not going to be terrible for natural gas and fracking.

He stopped all new natural gas production four months before the election. At which time, Speaker Johnson meets him, he takes over, and he goes, Mr. President, what are you doing? Like, why would you stop that? He said, No, we didn't stop it, we're studying it.

Yeah. You stopped production. That's Pennsylvania. This is for your election. This is Ohio.

You stopped all new production of drilling for natural gas and fracking for natural gas in the country. And he said, no, I didn't. And I'm thinking to myself, that's a bad story. But I'm thinking, is that the story? Is that the story of the last four years?

A bunch of 28-year-olds or Jeff Zeitz, the chief of staff, or Jake Sullivan, who's not speaking to Anthony Blinken? Were these clowns running the country? I mean, everyone's like, well, Joe Biden's a moderate. And Joe Manchin went up to him one time and says, Joe, you're a moderate, but you hired all left-wing people. He goes, But look how diverse they are.

Yes, we finally have a cross-dresser as a nuclear engineer doing nuclear overwatch, and we know how that worked out. He's stealing his luggage.

So I find him, Newt Gingrich, 100% correct. Hughes cut 22. How many Democrats? owe the country a deep apology because they knew. They'd been with him, they knew it was impossible, and they lied about it.

And I d I d I can't remember any event In American history, that involves, including Woodrow Wilson's stroke and Edith Wilson, his wife running the country. Nothing on this scale. of constant deception, constant lying. And the fact that they propped him up, and it raises the genuine, legitimate question. Who was the president?

And do any of the things that they did in his name actually count If he didn't know who he was. The worst thing to happen to the Democratic Party was doing well in the midterms proportionally. Yes, they lost the House, but just barely, and in the Senate they increased their margin. And they thought, wow, the country loves Joe Biden and they're over the Afghanistan debacle. And they thought he said, I'm running, and they couldn't stop the machine from moving ahead.

But there were people close to him that met with him, that knew that he wasn't all there, and they still let him run. All they had to do is have George Clooney do the same thing. and others. And then we would have known, or Nancy Blows had come forward, and the Democrats might have saved themselves and got Josh Shapiro in there. Think about it.

They wouldn't have had Kamala Harris, I'll tell you that. And they knew how bad she was. Brian kill me, chill. On remote in Miami, don't move. Radio that makes you think.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. It's not liberation. It's recession day. He argued in a White House. setting that this is a good thing for the United States.

Called it even at one point a rose garden-type celebration. Many others view it differently. It's chaotic. He says one thing one day and another thing the next day. He changes which countries, he changes the percentage, he changes which goods.

Donald Trump may not understand the impact of his tariffs on people's pocketbooks, but the public understands its impact. He's betraying people who put their trust in him. The American people are waking up to what's happening. The polling is clear. The President is underwater on the economy, he's underwater on these tariffs.

There you go.

Some of the people outraged that Donald Trump is restructuring trade. I understand it. We've lost thousands of points in the stock market. We're down at 40,000 at this hour. We'll see if he can steady the ship, but we're seeing how the tariffs go and how many deals the President will announce.

I could imagine the President reversing things a little bit if he comes out and says, I'm going to announce the following deals: Vietnam, India, as well as Israel. We'll find out what the EU is going to say in Britain, the UK. I'll find out if he wants to go out and maybe reverse the trend and letting people know we're looking to do a deal. Maybe that will break things in different directions.

Well, I'm here in Miami at Doral, where Liv has gotten their first American stop on their tour in year four. And I was able to talk to Mayor Francis Suarez this morning, and he calls me back now to tell everybody on my radio audience how special Miami is. But first, I wanted to talk to you about your take on what Democrats are saying and some Republicans about the impact of the tariffs on our economy. You know, it's interesting, Brian. This reminds me so much Of Miami in 2010.

We were talking about this briefly on your show this morning. In 2010, we had a 20% budget deficit, the exact same percentage as the federal government has right now. And we have a constitutional mandate. We have to balance our budget.

So, what we decided to do at the time was not raise taxes. We decided to cut expenses. And so we reduced our expenses by pension reform, right? And we did it by reducing the salaries of our employees.

So we cut 20% in one year, we balanced our budget. It was ugly. It was, you know, people were upset. You know, I had employees that didn't shake my hand for a few years. But what it led to was an era, a decade, okay, a decade of prosperity.

And I can give you the numbers. And from twenty fourteen from twenty fifteen to twenty twenty four, we have grown in Miami one hundred forty percent. What was I able to do at the same time? I was able to reduce taxes to the lowest level ever. At the same time, having the largest budget surplus on an annual basis and on an overall basis.

So we have it's instead of a deficit as the federal government has, this the the city of Miami has two hundred million dollars in cash. We have a surplus. Right. And then we have the highest bond rating in history, which means that we borrow money at the lowest rates, which saves our taxpayers.

So, what the president is doing is the exact opposite of what Biden was doing. What Biden was doing was making the rich richer. He was doing that by creating an inflationary economy and continuing to postpone the fiscal discipline that is needed to keep our country alive for a generation. And so, of course, the stock market was going up. Rich people were getting richer.

People who had their money in a bank account were getting poor every single day, which is why Donald Trump won a landslide election. What is he doing? He's reversing it. He has Doge implemented, right? He's let Elon Musk cut the federal government as much as it possibly can cut.

And then he's doing what I was telling you on the show: external revenue, right? The city of Miami earns 55% of its revenue from non-tax sources.

So, what is he doing? He's just doing what's fair. He's saying, look, everybody in the world is implementing. Tariffs against us and has been doing it, by the way, for decades, right? And all our manufacturing has left.

We're going to bring the manufacturing back so we can create American jobs, particularly in this digital world that we live in, right? Where we're going to have robotics and we're going to have, you know, which is going to, which is going to be cheaper, obviously, than slave labor in China and in our region, right? And we're going to bring manufacturing jobs back to the United States. Which is gonna increase wages. And then we are going to eliminate inflation by reducing or eliminating our deficit completely, which is going to allow people who have less money or money in non-interest paying accounts to keep more of their dollars of purchasing power.

So that is the plan. By the way, that doesn't even include the regulation. And and and the topic of So that's what a lot of people are saying: is that why didn't you wait for the big, beautiful bill to pass and the deregulation to really kick in and the energy renaissance to take place with Doug Bergham and Chris Wright?

So people are saying, looking at the timing. But my feeling is, Mr. Mayor, is the President feels like he's got very little time. He is doing literally everything at once. Listen, he's got no tool, Brian.

This is a guy who they try to kill. This is a guy who they tried to indict, okay, and who has one term, okay?

So he knows he is hitting the ground running. He's not going to waste one minute. I remember him saying at the beginning, you know, when he was putting in all these executive orders, and he said, you know, some of my advisors said that we should space some of this stuff out for the media and to get more banks for our buck from a press perspective. And he said, I'm not doing it. He goes, I don't have time to waste.

So Congress doesn't act as fast as executive orders.

So he can do things faster by the executive order pen than he can sometimes do through Congress. He's got a great partner in Speaker Johnson and Senate President Thun, which are going to get things done. They got to get it done before the midterm, because obviously history does not treat midterm incumbent presidents well.

So he knows he's got to get the economy going well, and he's going to do it. I have all the confidence in the world in his strategy. Yeah. So, I got an email from you. And it had to be done.

It had to be done, Brian. It had to be done. This is something that this recognition had to happen.

So I got this email from somebody in the clothing business, and they said, Brian, I'm watching all this stuff happen. And he says what is being missed here is that companies are not flush with cash because of the last four years of COVID. They're going to go out of business. As an example, overnight, based on 56% Vietnam tariffs, I will need to open spend $12 million more this year to bring the product into our country. He says I can't open up a factory in the U.S.

No one is capable of making clothing in the USA for a variety of reasons, one of which is they're not good at it, that Vietnam is actually good at doing it. Is there a chance that they're America likes to think we're great at everything? Is there a chance that the other countries just know certain things better than ours? There absolutely is. I think that's absolutely right.

The difference is the following: why is Vietnam tariffing our goods to the percentage that they are? If he were let's say that, Mr. Mayor, they did drop it. They did drop their tariffs, but it doesn't seem like the administration's responded yet. Would you recommend they respond quickly when these countries come into compliance?

I'm sure that they will for the countries that come into compliance because I think what the president has argued is parity. He's not arguing that we should be tariffing countries more than what they're tariffing us. He's talking about external revenue, which I think is important because you've got to increase income to balance the budget. And he's talking about parity and fairness. I think what gets lost in the conversation is the fact that he's responding.

It's not like he's implementing tariffs in a free trade environment. He's responding to countries that have been taking advantage of us for decades. And the third thing I would say, going back to the Miami example, when we cut people's Wages, right? The highest wage earners, we cut them 12%. That's a lot of money.

I had people come to me and say, Hey, I'm gonna get foreclosed. I'm going to lose my house. And let me tell you, that is painful, and that is gut-wrenching as a public official, as a mayor, as a leader, for someone to tell you that. But I have an obligation. I have a fiduciary duty to my shareholders who are my residents.

They come first. And so I couldn't save the government by killing the city. You know what I mean? And so that was my obligation. And by the way, those same people that got cut 12%, they now thank me because the raises that they've gotten in the last 10 years.

far, far outweigh the twelve percent cut that they got that one year.

So, by the way, the market is down another 1,000 points at this hour because everyone is trying to figure out what their reaction is going to be to us and what they're actually going to do. But I want you to hear a tape of Nancy Pelosi on C-SPAN 1996. Tell me if this doesn't sound exactly like something Donald Trump would say, cut away. In terms of tariffs, I think it's interesting to note. that the average U.S.

MFN tariff on Chinese goods coming into the United States is 2%. Whereas the average Chinese MFM tariff on U.S. goods going into China is 35%. Is that reciprocal? In terms of jobs, this is the biggest and cruelest hoax of all.

The China trade supports 170,000 jobs in the United States, 170,000 jobs, whereas Our imports from China support 10 million jobs at least. The fact is that the U.S.-China trade is a job loser.

So is that amazing to you? Doesn't that sound like Trump? She does sound like she could be Trump's uh spokesman. Look, I think uh by the way, I'm pretty sure she's short she probably shorted the market the last two days, so she's probably doing really great in her portfolio. Um, but but but but listen, I think you can't The thing here is this, guys.

It is an impossibility to write the ship. This is a sick patient. This is a patient. We, the United States government, is a very sick patient. You are not going to get healthy overnight without some very, very bad tasting medicine at some level.

I went through this. I'm telling you. I went through it. It's short-term pain for long-term gain. And it's not good.

It's not fun. Don't get me wrong. You know, people are looking at their 401ks, people are looking at their pension funds, and they get a little worried because they see a two-day dip in the market. Or maybe even, by the way, it could be a sustained thing. It could be a 30-day, a 60-day.

You have to look at this as a long-term. The patient is sick. The patient is terminal. If we don't do it right now, we're going to have a catastrophe, which, by the way, is not going to reduce the market by 4% or 3%. It's going to reduce the market by 40% or 50% or 70%.

I mean, something dramatic if we had a worldwide market crash, which is what we were on the precipice of, where we were heading to. And of course, the Democrats don't want to face that. They just want to keep spending. They just want to keep creating. creating money and inflating money and they you know let the good times roll.

Absolutely.

So, Mr. Mayor, you're going to be term limited out. You gave your final state of the city address. What's going to be next for you here in Miami? Listen, I have about 200 days left.

I got people every single day that ask me that question. It's probably the most popular question that I get. You know, I think I'm really, really proud of the record that I've created as an executive, right, in the you know, arguably one of the largest cities in the state of Florida. I took a city that was bankrupt. I took a city that was crime-written in the 1980s.

And we now have the most cash in our history. We have the lowest unemployment in America, the highest wage growth in America. We've brought $12 trillion in assets under management companies to Miami and increased our venture capital pipeline by 500%.

So if I decide to stay in the public sector, whatever that is, I think I have a tremendous resume to pitch. Whether it be voters or the administration or anything like that, I'm sort of taking it one day at a time. One of the things I've learned over 16 years in public service, Brian, is there's no shortage of opportunities to serve if that's what I want to do. What's great about my position as mayor is that I'm able to have a private sector existence.

So I do a lot of things in the private sector. I work for a prestigious international law firm called Queen Emmanuel. You know, I sit on boards, you know, I consult for major funds. But so do you think about are you too good friends with Byron Donalds to run against him? Listen, Byron is a good friend.

He's someone that I know well. He's got some formidable supporters in the president, the speaker of the house. He and I have not had that conversation, and I have not made my decision. But I do think that whoever wants to run for governor, they got to decide quickly because 2026 is coming fast. And it's a 20-million-person ecosystem with a trillion seven GDP.

It's the third largest state in America. It would be like a G20 country, right, or a G10 country.

So it's a big job. Certainly, the executive credentials that I have, I think, would be very formidable. But I also think Byron is a very formidable guy. He's done a great job of defending the President's MAGA record, not only on friendly stations, but he's gone on stations that are not friendly and done a great job there.

So I think he's demonstrated an ability to really articulate the position as well. All right. And I thought that Florida did pull out two solid special election wins. People want to say differently, but these are two new candidates, stepped in from Matt Gates, Mike Weltz, two very popular candidates with their constituency. Mayor Francis Suarez, thanks so much.

Thanks, Brian. I'll talk to you soon, and maybe we'll go check out an Inter Miami game one of these days. I would love to invite you. That'd be awesome. My treat.

All right. They got a really good forward, according to reports. I looked at their scouting record. Back in a moment. Brian Kill Mecho.

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Senate Republicans began the process to pass legislation. Eviscerating Medicaid. Abandoning our kids. Failing our veterans. And squandering our future all for the sake of tax cuts.

For the ultra-rich. This is the is the Republican agenda. Billionaires win. American families lose.

So that is uh that is Chuck Schumer. making things up again. This is just lazy. There's nothing about this tax plan. They take 1% off the top.

are wage earners in the country. But if you look at the tax plan, Usually, waiters and waitresses aren't rich. Usually, people with Social Security aren't rich. He's trying to remove tax breaks. He's trying to give them no taxes on tips, right?

No tax on Social Security. What else is he trying to do? In New York, in higher-taxed areas, he's re- in the last tax form, in the twenty seventeen tax plan that passed in twenty seventeen, you could not write off state and local taxes.

Now who does that hurt?

Well, people in these blue states with high taxes, not Florida People like in California.

So he's trying to. Reinstall A portion of a tax break for people who actually live in those states. That is not for the rich. If you look at the people that have benefited, Chuck Schumer should just do the math. Or if he did the math, he doesn't want to admit he did the math.

The people that benefited most were the middle class off-tax reform put together and led by Kevin Brady, the Texas congressman from Ways and Means, who took over for a guy who's Speaker Paul Ryan. That's a fact.

So when you say tax breaks for the rich, and you talk about this. Trade plan. If you look at what's happening with the trade, who is benefiting from trade? It is all out there. All this structuring, losing of thousands of points at the stock market, is an attempt to bring blue-collar jobs back and industries back to this country.

That's pretty clear. But that's what Chuck that's what Senator Schumer is talking about.

So What's happening today? There's going to be a Votorama. The Votorama is going to be everything involved in this one big, beautiful bill. And it is big, and it is unwieldy. Here's President Trump.

I don't want two bills. I want one. The House gave a blueprint. It's the Senate's turn today. That would help markets, too, if it looked like it would pass.

However, people like Rand Paul seem to be sitting it out. Cut 13. And now we're going to pass the largest tax cuts in American history, and that's where we're relying on Mike and Jon Thund. And we will not cut Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid benefits. And they've been working tirelessly on taking the next step to pass the plan for our one big, beautiful bill.

I'd like to name it that, if you can. One big, beautiful. I made that statement about six months ago, and everybody calls it one big, beautiful bill. And it will be that. It will have everything that...

So President Trump Has says, this is what I want in it. If you actually want to surge the economy, if you want the market to turn around, to me, you announce a series of deals with various nations and you let everybody know, John Thune, that you think you're on your way to passing this because it'll probably pass late into the night. The market will still be. will be shot. But I think that if you can get this done over the weekend, the market could change on Monday.

Police people are going to recalibrate. They're going to decide how they're going to retaliate, if at all, to the U.S. moves, to the American moves, to Donald Trump's moves. Listen to the Brian Killmeat show. We're at the Trump National in Dural.

Don't move. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian In Kill Mead. Hi, everyone. Brian Kilmey here.

Thanks so much for listening. This is the Brian Kilmey Joe. I'm not from 48 Cincinnati in Midtown Manhattan like I normally am. I'm at Doral, Trump National, side of Fox Sports. It's their first coverage of Live, and it's their first domestic stop.

They've been overseas. It's four years in a row that the Live, the Upstart Tour, is at Doral, where President Trump spoke last night. I spoke to people at the dinner with him last night. He acted like he'd never care in the world. You wouldn't think the market had dropped close to 2% over the last few days or thousands of points.

We're down, I think, to about 39,000. This hour, we got a lot of special guests, including Eli Lake is going to be with us. A little after that, Mark Thiessen.

So let's get to the big three. Number three. Talk about a big cover-up. We've been talking a lot about Donald Trump lately. You know, I just want to ask a simple question: who in the heck was running the country?

If the president's mental acuity was in question, and some days he's on, and some days he's off. Was the guy really capable of doing the job? Great question. I don't know the answer. That's a commentator on CNN, living a lie and we know it.

More horrific details of a failing Joe Biden as president. He couldn't do the job, wasn't doing the job. America is owed an apology. Number two. And now we're going to pass the largest tax cuts in American history, and that's where we're relying on Mike and Jon Thun.

One big beautiful bill. I'd like to name it that if you can.

Well, see, big beautiful bill, a deal could be getting done in the Senate, making its way through. What's in it? And what are the chances all the Republicans vote for it? Could it be Trump's most important legacy builder? Number one.

It's just not liberation. Day, it's recession day, it's chaotic. He says one thing one day and another thing the next day. Donald Trump may not understand the impact of his on people's chalk books, but the public understands his impact. He is betraying people who put their trust in him.

The tariff aftermath, markets rock Thursday. What does it mean for us today? We're going to talk about the nation-to-nation deals in retaliation and why this is about the American worker. We can tell you, I got up today to find out that China has responded. They said 34% tariff on everything.

Look at 11 American companies. We're going to name them unreliable. And we're going to do an investigation. We're going to halt chicken imports.

Next target for the Trump team will probably be pharmaceuticals. Why we don't make them here? We're about to find out. Also, what else could hurt China? We are going to hit sanctions on Venezuela and anybody buying oil from Venezuela, like third parties.

So if China's buying oil, we're going to hit them with sanctions.

So China is really going to get hurt by us big time. And how are they going to respond? Let's bring in Eli Lake, columnist for the Free Press, contributor, editor at Commentary, host of a brand new podcast, Breaking History. Eli, welcome back. Your thoughts about the President's attempt to recalibrate world trade.

Shambolic is too charitable a word. I feel that this is pure chaos and I don't think in this case, he is playing four dimensional chess I think he's playing four dimensional hungry, hungry hippos. Um I I don't understand it. I understand the grievances. I understand that his coalition is interested in the forgotten man.

I understand that. Globalization was a terrible deal for many Americans who were in communities that were kept aloft by manufacturing. I understand all of that. But you can't you're not going to bring back the factories this way. And even if you did, advances in AI and robotics will not mean that those jobs will still exist.

And more important, The pro the the spending power of all Americans, including the forgotten men and women in the Trump coalition. has will diminish as a result of this. We're already seeing Uh the results in terms of the response from China. We're seeing I mean, this is extraordinary. I never thought I would see today.

We're seeing talks between Japan, South Korea, and China on how to respond. Um so the goal of trying to isolate China, which was something that Trump did an admirable job in his first term, has been set back Um I don't understand this, and I also think it needs to be emphasized. Originally we were told that tariffs would be applied to countries that had tariffs on American goods.

So it was a kind of evening The playing field. But this is now based on the trade deficit Which is not, which, you know, I mean, it's a little bit more complicated, but just because we have a trade deficit with a country doesn't mean that we're not benefiting. from it, especially as we are much more of a services economy today.

So I think that Trump is courting disaster. And um I have to say this is shaking my confidence in his presidency at this point. Wow, that's pretty extraordinary because you have not been a huge critic. I think you've been very fair to him.

So you do not like what you see so far.

So a couple of things.

So the market drops a few thousand points. It's significant. I get it. But if they start cutting individual deals with Israel, Vietnam, India, and they start coming across with the EU and they talk about rebalancing, and all the stocks come back. I mean, is that and yet we recalibrate, we're restructuring trade, and there's a new emphasis on manufacturing here.

Is it worth the tumult? I mean, those are a lot of ifs, but think about all the comments. I mean, listen, one of the things. That is sort of, you don't know that you miss it until it's gone. is that there was a certain predictability to the global markets because the United States didn't do things like this.

And so I mean, in theory, maybe there'll be better deals and so forth, but Already, it feels like a kind of bullying. I mean, just one example. Um Canada and Mexico can get out of the tariffs if they comply with the first Sort of trade deal that Trump did in his first term that replaced NAFTA.

Okay, but there's still going to be tariffs. on automobiles, even if they're like American companies that are built in Mexico or they're partly built in Mexico or partly built in Canada.

So there's a whole lot of Devil really is in the details here, but I just think it's and it's based on this misconception, which is that I think that the future of the American economy, the way to deal with the legitimate problem that he's talking about, which is connected to everything, it's immigration, it's fentanyl, it's trade, and it's trying to bring back That Prosperity and the prospect of advancement and prosperity that has gone missing. He's the one guy who addressed it. He gets credit for that, he's a political genius. For understanding that that's where the coalition, the winning coalition, would be. Good for him.

But this approach is not I don't think this approach is going to. Get him to the goal of what I think he wants, which is to bring back that kind of prosperity and stability. to so many communities in the country that have been ravaged for the last thirty, forty years by globalization. The way to do that is to look to The newer industries of the future and try to include those communities in that, not to. Kind of sell a story that says, Oh, we're going to bring back the factories and make everything just like.

it's nineteen sixty eight, because I don't think that you can do that. Unless we decide we're going to really no longer be a free market economy in any way.

So I'm I'm very worried about this. And it's also the way that it's done. I mean, again, he initially said This was to level the playing field.

Okay, but that's not what the tariffs that he announced on Wednesday were. And then countries that had eliminated tariffs on American goods, like Israel. found a seventeen percent tariffs on them. I mean, it's like, okay, like You know, there are a lot of countries that are not. Vietnam, Israel, India made adjustments and they didn't adjust at all to the Rose Garden speech.

That's what I'm saying. Like it's the the idea that You're going to, you know, you've got people that are, you know, trying to, okay, we're going to go along with this. Let's, okay, we understand a new president, new policy.

So why are you punishing them? And you know, it was very funny the first time you talked about Canada being the 51st state. Um I have to admit I laughed. Yeah. But it's but it was a joke.

But it seems sometimes it seems like he means it. And Canada, we we take it for granted that Canada as a border I'm not talking about Mexico. People make the argument Canada and Mexico two peaceful borders. Mexico is a different story because of the drug cartels, because of illegal immigration. That's a separate issue.

And I understand why you need a very different and radical approach. But with Canada, Really? How is Canada a problem? Canada fights with us in all of our major wars. They've been a reliable trading partner.

D and also if you're a Republican, do you want A Canada coming into the Union with all their Liberal voters? I don't think we gotta just All of this is happening to me. By the way, he's helping the and to your point, he's helping that Liberal win for years, four more years, or wherever the term is, because the Conservative was winning after Trudeau just drove that country into a ditch. Eli, I know you got to run. Thanks so much.

You're befuddled about where we're at right now. I hope to talk to you in a couple of days, and we'll have this whole ship thing, we'll have this whole economic ship straightened out. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. I'm looking forward to it.

Thank you. Go get him, Eli. 1-866-408-7669. Mark Thiessen at the bottom of the hour. We're also going to update you on what's going on now with the market.

You listen to the Brian Kilmeet Show. Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Killmead. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead.

First off, have you contacted President Trump about this? I mean, you guys get along so well. Uh I mean, is he w what is how does he feel? I don't like to disclose my personal conversations with the President, but what I will tell you is that his administration is one of the biggest pro family administrations probably in U.S. history.

And I would also say that This is not, you know, when we're talking about specifically vote by proxy or members of Congress from voting from home, no one's advocating for a blanket. Allowances to do that, right? In fact, I am probably case in point. I had a child. I never voted by proxy.

A lot of these members vocally opposed to this have voted by proxy, which is the irony in all this. But again, we're talking about now with CATCAM at 14 in U.S. history, it needs to be addressed because it will impact our ability to pass legislation in the next couple of months. That is Congresswoman Luna talking about her push on the House floor to pass a bill to allow for remote voting for women that give birth, Congresswomen that give birth. But the Speaker Republicans didn't want to do it.

Because they think it's a slippery slope. Because now, let's say Nancy Pelosi wants a remote vote. She fell over in Lithuania. She broke her hip. She can't vote.

So now she's going to look to vote. Let's say the man, the paternity.

Well, the guy gets to off now at work. Didn't happen for me. But now, all of a sudden, if you're at work and your wife gives birth, you saw Gutfeld took, what, three months or two months off?

Now all of a sudden, what's going to stop a guy?

Well, my wife gave birth.

Now I'm going to be out again.

So it's a slippery slope, and that's where Republicans stand.

Now, the president weighed in off our interview yesterday, and he basically said he doesn't see a problem giving women who are pregnant and give birth to a remote vote. But that's what other people are worried about. No one's anti-woman through this.

So I'm just curious to see where that's going to go because. President Trump could easily maybe have somebody let the Speaker codify it in a way it's only going to be for birthing people. Wouldn't that be interesting? And Congresswoman Luna left the Freedom Caucus because they wouldn't vote with her on this.

So she says, that's it, I'm done. And she was one of the leaders of the Freedom Caucus.

So that caused all voting to stop.

Now, the Congress woman went on to say that. There was no reason for all votes to stop because of my attempt to bring that bring this measure forward. And she said there was that that's also a play.

Now I'm not sure I don't want to get involved in all this parliamentary things about what can and can be done, but she was pretty clear that she wanted she wanted to uh to do something about it. Here's more from her, Cut 37. And what's crazy about this entire conversation and argument is to try to paint someone like this. And as you say, I have a wonderful relationship with President Trump, and he knows that. I have his cell phone number.

Um But to paint us as anti-Trump I mean, why would you want to do that? You know, like this is just such a nasty thing to do. And so what I would say is I would very much so like them to put all this back on the floor. And if our vote fails, our vote fails, but don't attach the two to try to make a political point and play with the President's agenda. And I don't think the President would appreciate that either.

All right, so we'll see where we stand there. I think there might be some type of breakthrough, who knows? But I do think that it is, as much as I think, that if you give birth, you should be able to remote vote. The problem is, in normal years, in other sessions, in other decades, there's been such a pad of advantages for Republicans or Democrats. If they have control of the House, there's usually double figures type of cushion.

So you don't miss one person.

So, if you're pregnant, give birth, no one's really going to make you scramble to come back into work. But now, when you only have a five-seat margin and you have other special elections chipping away at it, and you have people like Tom Massey and sometimes Chip Royal go, I'm not going to vote with that. You need every vote possible. And that's what they're looking at down the road. The other big story that was really big on Tuesday that's fading out now because what's happening at the market, which you're not doing well, is Elon Musk.

So, Elon Musk has been, I think, a huge force for good, but he's been a target, almost a heat shield for the president. They're blowing up his Teslas, they're going after his companies, they're blowing them up on X, and I think it's just hideous that it's happening. But another report comes out, and I'll talk about this on One Nation on Sunday, that says that Musk is out and Trump wants him to leave. They said that before the election. They said that after he won.

They said it before he got to the White House. They said it once he got there. It's always been wrong. It's just not true. Here's Lydia Moynihan on the New York Post.

Because all you have to do, they are a very accessible group. You could actually not only ask the president, ask other people. And he could stay as long as he wants. Here's what she said last night: cut 34. This is not a surprise at all.

Look, I'm in the news business. I get it. Sometimes you want to get somebody to click on something, but that doesn't mean that it's actually new or that it's actually real reporting that's behind it. And Musk has always been very clear. The Trump administration has been very clear that Musk would come in to do a job, to get it done, and move on.

And to move on. He's gonna move on. But he's not going to move on for at least my feeling is another six weeks, seven weeks. He's also working with Neuralink, and on Monday there was a story that he is close to putting chips in brains, and he's going to focus on blindness.

So he did it in rats, do it through the experiments.

So the American Medical Association says, go ahead and try it.

Now, that might take some of his time. The fact that he's still trying to get someone to Mars, that takes some of his time. There's a lot going on with him right now, but it's not because he's not doing well. It's not because Trump wants him out. The one thing that I'm pretty amazed at is Elon Musk, who clashed at PayPal and gets in fights with a lot of people in the same industries, let alone people that work with him, he has no problem working for Trump.

He's a guy with dramatically different ways of operating. They have different backgrounds. One's a scientist, inventor, a work labor expert. But they get along. And I think that Trump likes him likes having him around.

Number one, I don't think he minds having somebody else be the target of the derision. Number two, I think he d legitimately likes smart people around him. He doesn't care about the age. But the biggest surprise to me is that Elon Musk wants to be around.

Some have speculated that Trump has emerged almost like a father figure. Number one, he's not in awe of them. A lot of people are. A lot of people that work with them are afraid of them. Trump's not afraid of anybody.

And number two is, I think that he likes having somebody that's more powerful than him around him that doesn't see him as a threat. And Trump's not stabbing him in the back. His problems, if he has a problem with him, he says it. Listen to the bride, kill me, show. Back with Marquise in a moment.

Don't move. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. I think it's better if we have direct talks. I think it goes faster and you understand the other side a lot better than if you go through intermediate.

They want to use they wanted to use hinted here. I don't I don't think that's necessarily true anymore. I think they're concerned. I think they feel vulnerable and I don't want them to feel that way. And I think they want to meet Yeah.

Iran, they're talking about Iran. The President on Air Force One last night, he was flying over to Darau, where I'm at right now in Miami, side of the Live tournament, the first American stop in 2025.

So he was asked about Iran, and he said, well, they want to go through intermediate areas, but I think they want to deal one-on-one now. No, they don't. They want to do through intermediaries. They cannot be trusted. We know, and hopefully, Netanyahu is coming over here next week to tell Trump, I cannot wait any longer.

It's not in our interest. There's a reason why we ignored Reagan in the 1980s to take out Iraq's nuclear weapons. And if you want to stop me, it's not going to work. I'm going to do it anyway. Mark Thiessen joins us now.

Mark's got a great sense of what's happening over in the most tumultuous place in the world, the Middle East. Mark, what do you think about Iran? I mean, this is a window, I hate to say it, a window to stop our 40-year enemy. Yeah, first of all, I want to say how impressed I am with your golf putting. That was really spectacular this morning on Fox and Fred.

And there's the sarcasm. And so keep your day job, buddy. Back there in the ball. In my morning job. And your morning job, yeah, and your afternoon job and your evening job and your weekend job because you're on the air nonstop, which is fine, which is good.

That's what you're good at, stick with it. But in terms of Iran, look, here's the reality, the the the President has said that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon and he's given them a window of about two months to come around and to have serious negotiations or else he's threatened military strikes. And he's right. And what we have is we have a unique window of opportunity right now because Israel, Iran has gravely miscalculated, right? Since October, they approved the October 7th attack.

Hamas has been decimated. Hezbollah's leadership, his entire leadership, has been taken out. Syria, their one ally in the Middle East, state Arab ally, has been overthrown. And the Houthis, their last remaining terrorist proxy, are getting the crap kicked out of them right now by Donald Trump. Um they tried to attack Israel twice.

And failed entirely, and Israel in response took out all of their air defenses, all of their ballistic missile capability, left their left, didn't take out the nuclear program and didn't take out their oil refineries, but could do that at any time. They're strategically naked. They have no allies. They're in the most vulnerable position they've ever had.

So if we were ever going to do this, now would be the time to do it because they are capable of retaliating. And so they're in a weak position.

So if I was them, I would try to negotiate. Even Vladimir Putin is pretending to negotiate with Trump. He's sitting down directly with Trump. If you really want to stop a military strike, the only way to do it is to sit down with Trump.

Well I'll tell you what I I Do you think that Netanyahu do you think Netanyahu right now Is coming over for that reason. I don't think he needs to visit the President again. I don't think he's afraid to use Zoom. My sense is they're finishing off Hamas, and my sense is he's going to say, listen, this is my plan. Yeah, I hope that's what he's doing.

And at least I think they should be coordinating on the what if the negotiations don't track doesn't happen, which I'd give a five percent chance of having any possible success, right? But the problem is that Israel doesn't have the capability to take out the nuclear program. We only have we only have we're the only country that has the bunker busters to do it.

So if we wanted Israel to do it, we'd have to give them the bunker buster capability to because it's so deeply buried that they could set it back, but they couldn't destroy it. Only the United States could actually destroy it. And so it's going to take coordination. It's not going to be one of these things like it was with the Iranian with the I'm sorry, with the Iraqi nuclear plant where they took it out and it was easy. It was not easy to do.

It was a daring mission, but it wasn't buried deep in the ground with capabilities that only the U. S. has to reach it.

So Mark, just real quick, your take on what the President's doing now with this trade realignment, the market's hating it. Yeah. It's a big mistake.

So, first of all, I'm in favor of reciprocal tariffs. Because one of the problems that we have is that as Kevin Hasse has pointed out, we pay every year $370 billion in tariffs to other countries. Other countries pay us $50 billion in tariffs.

So there's a huge tariff deficit, right, that we have with these countries.

So to put tariffs on to put the remaining three hundred something billion dollars on tariffs on those countries, match them and say, hey, we can either keep these tariffs in place or you can take yours down and then negotiate a deal, that's fine. What he's done is, in addition to that, is he's put a baseline tariff of ten percent on every country, which I think is which is which is you know, so Israel the other day announced and when this was about to happen, they preemptively announced we're just eliminating all of our tariffs on U. S. goods. Period, where we're cooperating with the administration, and they still got hit with ten percent tariffs.

Like that, that makes no sense to me. And second of all, this is going to have economic pain, and he's doing it in the wrong order. Like, you need to, if you're going to play a game with the tariffs, you have to get the economy stabilized first.

So, why would you do this before passing a tax reform? You've got an opportunity to do two bills, right? Which we've had this conversation on the show before. Pass a quick bill right now, extending the Trump the twenty seventeen tax cuts. make them permanent.

and eliminate taxes on tips. For workers and just do that. And then when a worker out there is saying, well, yeah, I know the tariffs are raising prices for everything, but I'm paying no taxes on my tips, and businesses can say, Yeah, well, the tariffs are creating uncertainty in the market, but we've got certainty because the tax cuts are permanent now, then you create some sort of a foundation on which to of economic strength and growth on which to play play display on the tariffs. I just don't understand the order of it, and I don't understand the using it not using it as a tool, but as an end rather than a means. See, my thing is too, is that you should be trumpeting deals.

Say I'd just like to come out. I've gotten off the phone with India, Israel, Vietnam and Brazil, and this is our new deal. Would back in a moment, and then the market would react. But they seem to want the revenue. Yeah.

That's where the problem is.

So Trump could actually, ironically, if he wasn't for this whole idea attachment to revenue, which I don't think is realistic, is is he could be the most free trade president in history. Because if you do the t the retaliatory tariff, and countries lower their tariffs to not get tariffed by us, you could you he could be responsible for removing more tariffs against American goods around the world and opening up more markets for our products than any president in history. That would be a huge achievement. That would be a huge free market achievement.

So, you know, that's what that's the reason why he's not doing it that way, I don't understand.

So right now the market's off 1,422, 1422. We'll see where that goes. Yesterday, a Russian businessman was into town and he came and talked to Brett Baer right afterwards. His name is Kirill Dmitriev. Before I get your take on where it's at, let's listen to this Russian envoy, Cut 29, talk about what Russia is looking for and what they say is ridiculous, Cut 30.

I would say there are lots of false and fake narratives circulating, such as Russia possibly going into Europe. I mean, that's just a crazy idea. And the problem is there are lots of crazy people, and they discuss it together, so it becomes like crazy, group crazy. And I think President Trump is very realistic. He knows it's not going to happen.

And I think it's very important that there are... safeguards in place. But what is dangerous is that there are lots of sort of false narratives and people stay in those narratives before the same people were proposing decisions on Ukraine that would never have worked. And if you propose decisions that doesn't work, it means you don't actually have a decision that can work. Yes, it's just crazy to think they're going to invade Europe just because they invaded Georgia, Ukraine, affecting Moldova's elections and the Baltics don't have a rest haven't had a restful night's sleep in five years.

Yeah, no, exactly. I mean, I the last time I checked, uh, Ukraine was part of Europe and so is Moldova. Uh the it's uh Putin's objective is to restore the Soviet old Soviet borders, which includes Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia. Uh he's threatening Poland and all the rest of it. But put all that aside for a second.

Just look at focused on Ukraine. He this is a man who invaded a c a sovereign country and tried to take it over and overthrow its government and impose somebody, impose his own leader on it, and he failed. And here's the what what the Russians don't seem to understand is that and what Trump I think is does understand is Putin is incredibly weak. His economy is reeling. The only thing that's keeping him alive right now, I mean, they've got double-digit inflation, labor shortages.

They're literally having armed robberies to steal butter so it can be resold on the black market. That's how bad the economy is. Only thing keeping it alive is oil revenues because Biden created a huge loophole for gas and oil sales. If Trump closes that and imposes secondary sanctions, the Russian economy will collapse. They're also weak militarily.

They're losing 300 tank barrels a day and they only produce 20. They can't the the Wall Street Journal estimated that they that by twenty twenty six next year, they'll be out of tanks. They are lo they've gained approximately one thousand eight hundred square miles of territory last year at a cost of four hundred seventy thousand soldiers. They can't sustain this. They are weak.

Trump has all the cards and all the leverage. If he brings down the boom on them, and that's why you see Putin sort of dragging this out, he doesn't want to say no to Trump because he knows if he says no, Trump's going to impose sanctions, crush his economy and give Ukraine the weapons they need to crush it.

So he doesn't want so he he's not saying no, but he's not saying yes. And at some point the rubber's going to have to hit the road.

So they have a different opinion. This was the message from Kirill Dmitriev, the Russian envoy, who claims to be a successful businessman. Cut 29. Russia is not asking for lifting of sanctions because if you look at our GDP growth, it's actually 4% last year versus just 1% in Europe. If you look at our debt to GDP, it's 18% versus 100% in Europe.

So I think what we see is that actually U.S. companies lost around $300 billion of foregone profit from withdrawing from Russia.

So I think sanctions may be lifted when U.S. companies want to go back, want to take advantage of business opportunities in Russia. But right now, Russia is not making any preconditions, not asking for specific sanction relief. They don't need any relief.

So, Mark, who's telling the truth, you or Kirill? I think you can trust me over Corell at that.

So, first of all, what they did ask for, which pissed Trump off, wasn't it? Yeah, they want a regime change, so we'll see what happens. Mark, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Have a great weekend.

Bye. Uh, Brian Kilmey Show, back in a moment. It's Brian Killmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead.

Hey, we are back, and I come to you from Dural Trump National. President spoke here last night. Live tournament digs in here today. It's 54 holes. It goes for three days.

They can wear whatever they wanted. You can wear shorts, they blast music. It's more interactive with fans. It's a rival of the PGA. They're supposed to come together.

But I tell you what, off camera, nobody thinks they're coming together to the PGA and Live anytime soon. But they're going to come together next week for the Masters.

So we're here in Miami.

So I want to continue to do the radio show right here, and then we'll be back in action on Monday. 1-866-408-7669. Just a quick note: One Nation coming up Sunday night, 10 p.m. amongst my great roster of guests, Hugh Hewitt. We're going to talk to Senator Dave McCormick.

John Chris, the outstanding comedian, Tommy Lahren. Those are just some of my rosters of guests. But let's go out to Bruce in Pennsylvania. Hey, Bruce. All right.

Thanks for taking my call.

So I went to a financial seminar recently, and one of the things they said is the stock market is very far overvalued. It shouldn't be forty thousand. It should be twenty five thousand. If you go back five years, you'll see a huge difference in the stock market. It needs to correct.

So we have a choice. Do we want it to correct a little bit every day and get down to twenty five thousand or thereabouts? Or do we want it to drop in one or two days? That's the thing. It's too high.

It's a high. It's not realistic. That's the whole point I'm trying to make. We're so worried about the stock market propping, but it's not a real stock market. And that's what these financial planners say.

Don't invest now. It has to correct. one way or the other. That's all I wanted to say.

Well, yeah, we're going to see what's going to happen right now. The market's down another 1,500 points, but that's real money for a lot of people who imagined or not, overvalued or not. That's what they're at 401k. If they want to retire now, that's what they're going to go to. No one should panic.

We remember losing tens of thousands of points. We remember what happened in the 80s. We remember what happened in 2008 very clearly. This is not that. A lot of this is uncertainty.

And you watch, if they can somewhat stabilize today and then they can announce some deals over the weekend with different countries and maybe figure in the ones that already made offers to go to zero, like Israel and Vietnam and India. And he went down not to zero. I think that would steady things to a degree. At least I think so. Anyway, we're watching what's happening on the market.

There's all these different experts. Trump is not budging. He feels very confident he's on the right side of things. Howard Luttnick was on last night, and he's still confident they're on the right track. Cut five.

This is his movie that he's been talking about for 35 years. He said we've been ripped off. You can go find video of him from 1988 on Oprah talking about how we're being ripped off. He finally gets to stand up for American workers, stand up for America, bring the factories back home, and get rid of this national emergency called our trade deficit, which is outrageous. Look, I'm not saying Howard Luttnick is jumping away, but he's saying he finally gets to do instead of we.

And Howard Lutnick's a commerce secretary, so I think he should take a little bit more ownership. He doesn't want to get Gavin Newsome this now.

So Stephen A. Smith, who fancies himself a presidential candidate, good guy, he's using his podcast to talk about politics. And he goes on with Bill Maher, makes some solid points, and he says, I'm a Democrat, upset with his own party, but said this to Sean last night about tariffs, cut nine. There's a bunch of liberals in this country. There's a bunch of centrists in this country, a bunch of moderates, okay?

Yeah, you've got the Republicans that would speak against the Affordable Care Act or American Recovery and Reinvestment Act. They might speak against those things, but a lot of people on the left and a lot of centrists like that stuff about Obama. Here's my thing: with Trump, see, these times right now, this is what I keep trying to tell the Democrats. Let the man do what he's doing. Find out whether or not it works.

You're gonna listen to Sean Hannity, you're gonna watch him. Let's see if these terrorists against Canada, Mexico, China, everybody that he's trying to, you know, be a reciprocation. That sounded like it is sports. A lot of people are writing me about this, too. In terms of the largest one-day loss, Mike Johansson writes to me and says, Brian says a bunch of nice things.

He says, I'm watching now other channels and says the market drop was the second biggest in a single day. That is so wrong, and nobody is bringing up the fact that this drop isn't even in the top 10 drops in market history. The DAI was off 4%. The DAO was off 4%. And I personally remember that Black Monday was off 22.5%.

And the list of 10 biggest drops didn't even include this drop. Everything is relevant. I wish your show would show this list of the top drops of all time. All right, Mike, good job. I will look into that.

Then other people are writing me saying, hold on tight, don't worry about the stock market. And other people are saying, They were more concerned about what's happening at the border, and we heard about the 21-year-old that was killed by a drunk driver here illegally, an illegal immigrant, and that's your stories you should be talking about. Listen, I get it. A lot of people are upset by what's going on. But when you talk about things that are going right for the administration, They're doing a great job rounding up illegals.

They're doing a fantastic job at the border. I've never thought in my life they could be done like this. The other day that we sent a crew to the place in the border we're putting another, I think, 70 miles in. And I think it was just like a side story. When we were putting up one mile, that was a big story.

But they're putting it up, they're blocking it out.

So even after Trump, we'll have additional security. You listen to the Brian Kill Me Show on the road in beautiful Miami Beach. Don't move. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.

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So it's their fifth stop overall. It's kind of cool. Bryson D. Chambeau joined us on television today. Phil Mickelson joined us too.

Bubba Watson was with us. Mayor Suarez had joined us on TV. It was great to see so much momentum in this startup. It's a startup situation with an established game that's trying to get younger. And with this hour, we're going to be joined by.

Teresa Payton, former White House Chief Information Officer, Cybersecurity Expert. And Jonathan Alley and Amy Parnes are going to be with us. They are the co-authors of Fight Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House. I feel. Mm-hmm.

A few different ways when it comes to Joe Biden, what's now been exposed about his ineptness. And I'll get to that in a moment. But for now, let's get to the big three. Number three. Talk about a big cover-up.

We've been talking a lot about Donald Trump lately. You know, I just want to ask a simple question: who in the heck was running the country? If the president's mental acuity was in question and some days he's on and some days he's off, was the guy really capable of doing the job? Absolutely not. He wasn't capable of doing the job.

Let me answer that for you. That is a pundit on CNN, living a lie, and we knew it. More horrific details on failing Joe Biden's presidency. He couldn't do the job, didn't do the job. The question is: was anyone doing the job?

Number two. And now we're going to pass the largest tax cuts in American history, and that's where we're relying on Mike and Jon Thune. One big beautiful bill. I'd like to name it that if you can.

Let's try it. You could do whatever you want. One big, beautiful bill: the deal that could get done, making its way through the Senate. What's in it, and what are the chances all the Republicans vote for it? The House is weighed in.

They got some problems with it. But if you want to change around the market fortunes, maybe you do that. Pass it. Number one. Day, it's recession day.

It's chaotic. He says one thing one day and another thing the next day. Donald Trump may not understand the impact of his tariffs on people's pocketbooks, but the public understands its impact. He is betraying people who put their trust in him. Right.

Thank you, Corey Booker. Tariff aftermath. The market's rocked again. What does it mean today? We talk about the nation-to-nation deals and the retaliation that China's already measured and what this says about America.

Now, we got up today to find out China's put a 34% tariff on all American goods, and they responded by looking into 11 separate companies and seeing and sanctioning them directly. We also found out that we are sanctioning anybody that goes and buys oil from Venezuela because we are not happy with how that country has destroyed that once prosperous nation. China buys oil from Venezuela. I think they're the number one customer. And if they do that, now they're going to get sanctioned, third-party sanctions.

The same thing we're threatening to do to Russia if they don't come across the same thing we're going to do with Russia if they don't come across with some type of legitimate approach to a ceasefire. And that's going to go after India because India is one of their they love the discount oil and gas that they're getting from Russia because Russia can't sell on the world market because of their invasion of Ukraine. We'll see where that goes. And we'll continue to monitor what's happening in the market. Right now we can say this.

The market is now down fourteen hundred points. Yesterday it was down about two percent. NASDAQ has taken a bounding. They want to see some resolve. They want to see some hope.

And so far, maybe the algorithm, maybe it's human beings. They're seeing a lot of falling. And so far they're noticing it too on big tech. The NASDAQ is set to confirm a bear market if this continues. They have said they they're down twenty From a recent record high as investors fled, what people have also told me is times like this is when people get in and get those get the stocks that have been unaffordable.

Trump slapped a 10% baseline on all imports to the U.S. That is going to affect places like Apple because most of them manufacturing from outside, even though it's an American-based company. The benchmark SP 500 is down 14 percent from its high.

So we'll see it's dropped out of the 40s. It's now in the 30s. Meta has slumped 12.6 percent. Microsoft down 4.3 percent. Google down 5.3 percent.

Tesla punch 37 percent. And we know that they're having other issues besides what's going on there. Democrats are down on it. Donald Trump is actually getting more confident by the day. Listened to him yesterday.

The audio is not great, but guess what else he's going to go after? This could be announced, but it's not going to help the market. It'll probably be after 4 o'clock today, and it's big pharma. Cut three. It's starting very soon.

Uh the chips uh are starting very soon. The pharma is going to be starting to come in, I think, at a level that you haven't really seen before. We are looking at pharma right now, pharmaceuticals as a separate category. And we'll be announcing that sometime in the near future, not too distant future. That's under review right now.

It's under review because you know what? Who benefits? You know who's probably nervous about this? Ireland. Ireland is making most of our pharmaceuticals, China making our pharmaceuticals.

And we did a great job getting everybody hooked on daily medication, and it's got to be imported from China.

So that's where it stands. What Scott Besson was hoping as Treasury Secretary is there wouldn't be much retaliation. April seventh is when the European Foreign Ministers are meeting about some type of answer to the American market and the restructuring. We already see China is already answering.

So we'll see China overall is being hit by 56%. And what Trump wants is that revenue. What I think I would love is to see the deals done to just bring down the tariffs on all these countries. Listen to our Treasury Secretary, cut six. You said 10% over 10 years would be $2.5 trillion coming in.

You know, you look at this list of all these countries, and there's some policy decisions here. China is at 34%, added to the 20% already, so that's 54% on Chinese goods. Are they going to come back with something big?

Well, we'll see what they do. My advice to every country right now is do not retaliate, sit back. Take it in, let's see how it goes because if you retaliate, there will be escalation. If you don't retaliate, this is the high watermark. Yeah, and we'll see.

Right now we understand that The chairman of the Fed is going to be speaking soon. It looks like they're waiting for Powell to say something and indicate what they're doing with interest rates.

Now, one of the beneficiaries, when the market goes down and gets challenging, they drop interest rates. Are you thinking about buying a house? Are you thinking about selling a house?

Now, you're probably, if you had your house more than 10 years, your interest rate's around 2%, 3%. There's no way you get, unless you have to move. There's no way you're going to make a good business decision and move to a mortgage that's going to charge you, what, 7% to 8%. It doesn't make any sense. And then the people that buy your house have to do that, so they're going to try to figure that into the price.

So it doesn't make sense. But if those rates come down for whatever reason, you hope it isn't because of a weakening economy, that might be an opportunity for you. But for those of you who think that Trump, like Mark Thiessen, was on with this earlier, and he doesn't think this is well thought out. But if people know who listened to Donald Trump, As a President, as a candidate, as a businessman, as a reality show host. This is what he said.

This is what he's been saying his entire career. And we were shocked to find this clip of Nancy Pelosi. The year is 1996. Her hair is different. She actually has some strength in her voice.

And she sounds like Donald Trump today, cut eight. In terms of tariffs, I think it's interesting to note. that the average U.S. MFN tariff on Chinese goods coming into the United States is 2%. Whereas the average Chinese MFM tariff on U.S.

goods going into China is 35%. Is that reciprocal? In terms of jobs, this is the biggest and cruelest hoax of all. The China trade supports 170,000 jobs in the United States, 170,000 jobs, whereas Our imports from China support 10 million jobs at least. The fact is that that U.S.-China trade is a job loser.

How weird is that? How things have changed. Remember, we have clips I could play of. President Bill Clinton saying we got to clamp down on the border. Chuck Schumer saying, and Harry Reid saying, our concern is that people are going to try to vote from other countries into our elections.

And now we have them fighting to make sure you don't have voter ID. It's crazy. And I just got this Truth Social post, and actually from Mayor Suarez, because we were just talking about Vietnam. This just came out. Just had a very productive call with the General Secretary of Vietnam, who told me that Vietnam wants to cut the tariffs down to zero.

If they are able to make an agreement with the U. S. I thanked him on behalf of our country and said I would look forward to meeting in the near future on Vietnam.

Well, that's great. But, Mr. President, why don't you do the deal now? You got a stenographer there, if you have somebody, just do the deal now. I thanked him on behalf and said I can look forward to a meeting in the near future.

No, do it now. That's what the market needs to see. I mean, they're the number one textile giant. They fear China. They all fear China.

Don't make them run over to China. In my view.

So Victor Davis Hansen sees this restructuring, sees what they promised in the 1980s, sees that in 1992 Ross Perot said if we do the NAFTA deal, it's going to be we're going to lose all these jobs, and it turns out he's right. And this is what he thinks. And you remember, he's a historian from the Hoover Institute, Cut Eleven. We're told that tariffs will destroy your economy. China, India, Vietnam, Indonesia, all these countries that are running these huge surpluses have twice the GDP growth.

Are they stupid? Are they trying to commit suicide by protecting their industries? No, and they're much higher tariffs than ours, and they have higher GDP. And you know, why are the countries that are running huge surplus so furious? And we're supposed to be apologetic because we're running deficits.

Makes no sense.

Well, he goes on to say this, Cartoon. I don't even think we should use the word tariff. We should just use the word reciprocity. The fate is in those countries' hands, their own fate. Trump has already said, whatever you want to set as a tariff rate is fine with us.

We'll just match it. You choose. You know, the other thing that's getting really aggravating is Wall Street says, well, this caused the Great Depression. This is the smoot harly. You're going to do it again.

The Great Depression started, Sean, in 1929. You know who started it? Wall Street. Yeah. That's when a historian breaks out his background.

So people are panicking. I get it. It's real money, and I understand. Listen, we'll take a timeout and come back. And we'll be able to squeeze in some calls.

Jonathan Allen, Amy Parnes, at the bottom of the hour. The name of their book is called Fight Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House. Don't move. Listen to the Brian Kill Me Show in beautiful Miami Beach. Increasing your intelligence quotients.

What the hell did you just say? It's Brian Kilmead. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. But I don't deny that it was a bad debate performance.

That's different than whether or not the president is up to the job. He's clearly up to the job. He's doing it every day. He's doing it successfully. Right, uh Ron Klein making up a story that Joe Biden is actually on his game.

Same thing as Joe Scarborough. This is the best version of Joe Biden.

Now you've got one book after another showing that it could be anything but the truth. Joe Biden, who is really a distant memory and a bad memory. I mean, think about the things that did get done during his time that people point to. The rescue package, they jammed that all together with majorities in the House and Senate. He wrote nothing in it.

The infrastructure package, yeah, it got some support, but that wasn't from him. It generated from the Senate and House. All he did was sign it and screwed it up by saying certain things, certain agreements that were Republicans, he was never going to do. And then you had the ridiculous new Green Deal that they say was the Inflation Reduction Act. That had nothing to do with him.

Number one, he bragged about lying about the contents of it. And then you had Afghanistan. I would not bring up Joe Biden today if I wasn't so outraged about the people who are writing the books now. And Jonathan Allen, I saw him yesterday in the hall, and I say he's going to do the radio show in 15 minutes. I said, what was the reaction when you brought this up to the White House?

How the rumors were that Joe Biden can't do the job? And he says it was vicious, vicious backlash. They would attack, they would threaten. They've you know, ageism, all these things. Didn't know what I was talking about, not based on anything.

They would call and threaten my editors. And now we're writing the book and everyone's saying the same thing. That's why I think it's just a huge apology. Another thing I just want to update everyone is: everyone's focusing on what's happening in the market, and I understand it. A couple of things that are happening, and what they're also looking to do, and I think could change things.

I just read to you about Vietnam reaching out, having a conversation with the president, saying, Let's get to zero tariffs, which would be great news for anybody who's making shirts and pants and anything, any clothing. We do a lot of stuff over there. They're more reliable than China, harder workers, and more skilled. The other thing is, I would like to see a big, beautiful deal being done on everything that we discussed, because right now people are focusing on the tariffs and the great unknowns about what's next.

So, in this deal, what is actually in it is quite interesting. No tax on tips is in there. Restoring of a degree on the raising the cap on being able to write off state and local taxes is in there. No taxes on Social Security. If seniors are worried about that, that is in there.

Also, it just minimizes marketing. Marginalizes any Democrat who comes out and says, Well, President Trump is just giving his billionaires a tax cut. You know what also? To get more revenue, he was thinking about ticking up the upper class rate from 39 or 37.5 up to 39. That's Obama level.

Now, if you were me to be convinced any further that he's not in it for his rich friends, that would be it. Lindsey Graham is actually leading the charge. He's chairman of the budget committee, and this guy is indefatigable. He's going to be voting, doing a voterama. And those essentially are chances to put this whole bill up for input and for anybody who wants to make amendments.

If the Democrats are really sincere about fighting, they might just filibuster this whole thing and go through the night and through Saturday and pull what Corey Booker pulled off, which was a total stunt without substance. But Lindsey Graham, wait in. He was pumped up last night. He's leading the charge here. He's normally somebody very aggressive on international events.

Cut 15. No Democrat is going to help us cut your taxes, secure your border, give additional money to the military. They're not going to do any of that stuff. We are. We've had the House, the Senate and the White House, Republicans, four times in the last hundred years.

When you have all three, you can do things through budget reconciliation in the Senate to avoid the 60 vote requirement. Yeah. And that's what they're going to do. And for those people who say, well, you're doing it on reconciliation, that's what they all did that. And sadly, that's what it comes down to now.

Here's more from Lindsay, cut 16. The Democrats did Obamacare through reconciliation and the infrastructure bill through reconciliation, not using any not counting on us. We have a historic opportunity to make the tax cuts permanent. to fully fund the border plan for four years without one Democratic vote, help the military and cut trillions of spending without one Democratic vote being needed. If we can work together today, 5248, we move forward.

We'll be voting tomorrow night, probably in the middle of the night. And that's when they think Democrats will run out of gas on simply a blocking maneuver.

So that's pretty important. The other thing that's also interesting is the Democrats are actually heading to the border today. I don't know what they're doing there, except for maybe to give Donald Trump credit, Benny Thompson, Sarah Jacobs, Tim Kennedy, all going down to the border. Uh look at these numbers. What are they going to see is possibly high praise.

2025, Trump versus Biden on crossings, 7,180 so far. In 2020, 34,000. Just for the month of March, 460. That was under Biden. And now 2019, 103,731.

So look at the numbers. They're minuscule. They're doing nothing now except for digging in a wall. Joe Biden, in the month of March, in 2022, 222,000 came through. Think about that.

Where are those people now? In 2023, Joe Biden, month of March, 193,249. And the year he left, 189,000. Trump has got it down to 7,180. How Democrats are going to spin this?

I don't know. But they probably will. They'll punta, the illegal aliens who were shipped to El Salvador. who they don't seem to like. Only one neck tattoo.

From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. That our strength is our diversity. We've been talking about this for years as a country of immigrants, and we let them define the issue on immigration. We let them define the issue on DEI, and we let them define what woke is. We got ourselves in this mess because we weren't bold enough to stand up and say, you damn right we're proud of these policies.

We're going to put them in. and we're going to execute them.

So every higher up in the Democratic Party just passed out having heard that because it looks like Tim Walls has learned nothing from the election as if it was just an aberration. Everything would have gone great except for they lost and ran on the wrong stuff. Go figure. Joining us now to discuss this and so much more. The inside story with happened in the last election.

Fight, Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House. Jonathan Allen and Amy Parnes join us. Welcome, guys. Hey, Brian. Hey, Brian.

Hey, Jonathan, I guess I'll start with you. Your thoughts. Did Tim Walls write we should have just ran more on DEI? Is that the issue? Is that your takeaway after you finish the book?

No, that's insane. I think one of the big contrasts in this election is that Donald Trump understood that Americans, particularly those swing voters that were out there, were worried about their physical security in terms of crime, in terms of immigration. They were worried about their economic security in terms of inflation and again, immigration. And the Democrats don't even understand the connection between immigration and the economy and immigration. They don't talk like they understand that.

And then you've got the Democrats over there, and they were talking about all kinds of other issues. They're talking about their belief that the democracy is going to end if Trump is elected. They're talking about abortion. They're talking about DEI. They've got their heads in the sand, and Tim Wall still has his head in the sand.

And as long as they keep their heads in the sand, they're going to keep getting their butts kicked. Amy, how did he get picked? Can you bring us inside that process?

So I think Kamala Harris really wanted someone who was a loyalist, someone who she connected with. And I think that she felt the most comfortable with him. I think Josh Shapiro, a lot of Democrats wanted Shapiro to run, but I also think that he was problematic. He has his own, she was worried about his own political aspirations. And then let's not forget Israel and the concerns about the left.

They were already, the party was already kind of in shambles. They were trying to galvanize and come together. And that a lot of people were saying that would have been the wrong pick for the moment.

So it my takeaway And you guys can both answer this. My takeaway from this, and I got through maybe 120 pages of it. I just downloaded myself, so it's going to increase your sales, guys. Thank you very much. I did not wait for my free copy.

I'm going to San Antonio this weekend for the final four, and I'm going to read your book on the Alamo on the plane on the way to the market. I think that's the least you could do, John. I will download it and read it online. All right. So.

My takeaway is that Joe Biden couldn't do the job and wasn't doing the job. And that people were concerned behind the scenes. And that judging by some of the descriptions here, I'm surprised he survived the four years. What was your takeaway as you began to research what was going on? Because John, I saw you in the hall yesterday.

And I said, what was the reaction when people would point out to the White House that Joe Biden seems to be failing, doesn't know how to leave a stage, walk up steps? And he doesn't seem engaged, they would be angry at you. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Every time any of us, and Amy and I both experienced this, anytime any of us wrote anything about his mental acuity and even about his age, even about the physical parts, let alone the mental parts, we just get reamed by White House staffers. It's like they had a gaslighting machine and they had a fan in front of it and they just keep pouring that gaslight at us.

And it made it difficult. I think some of us were able to get at pieces of it, but nobody, you know, they hid Joe Biden. He was not available to the press. He was not available to people who weren't friendly to him. And over time, the cocoon around him shrunk and shrunk and shrunk.

And what we were able to do in this book, and I hope folks will read it because there's a real danger to the country in this kind of behavior that I think has been a little undersold out there in the sort of public sphere, which is the president of the United States is in decline. He's the most powerful man in the world, and the people around him. Him who see the decline are the last people in the world that are going to blow a whistle. They owe their jobs to him. They have invested in him their entire careers.

They have a nice deal as it goes. And they know that if they tell him something he doesn't want to hear, particularly with Biden, it's true of a lot of presidents, but particularly with Biden, if they say something to him he doesn't want to hear, they're going to get cast out of the inner circle.

So they protect. And in this case, what we saw on debate night between Trump and Biden, even if that was the worst moment, and who knows if it was that Joe Biden ever had, I think it was scary to the American people, regardless of party, that the leader of the free world, the man with his finger on the nuclear button, had such problems with cogency, such problems with coherence. And the White House, the folks in the White House did everything they could to make it unclear, to muddle that, to make it seem like Joe Biden was in control of his faculties when he clearly, at least at times, was not. And as we report in the book, you can see this evidence there. He's met with a makeup artist.

When he travels, that's his first order of business every day. You know, he comes to, he invites members of Congress to the congressional picnic a year before the debate, and he can't recognize Eric Swalwell, a guy he ran against for president in 2020.

So we document all of this in the book. Were you writing the book then? Were you writing this book before the debate? No, we weren't even going to do another election book. And we wrote Shattered, as you've read.

We wrote another book called Lucky about the 2020 race. We weren't going to do one. And then our publisher said, you have to do one. This race is just too explosive. And it really was.

So we jumped in right away and we dug in and we started talking to people and people started opening up to us for this book just how bad it was for Biden. And Brian, if I could just jump in here, we're going to see some other books come out about this and what we've seen in some of the excerpts. Um or or the people who were involved in this really covering their own butts.

So I think that, you know, I mean, this is the book that where you're going to see, you know, what really happened, how the Democrats cannibalized themselves in real time. And we dug into that, you know, starting shortly after the debate and got to talk to pretty much everyone we wanted to in the Harris, Biden and Trump orbits. Maybe we'll even pull up the clip on Joe Scarborough, but I want you to hear Mike Larosa, who did communications for the First Lady. He he brought us behind the scenes here. Let's listen.

President's King was scared to death of Uh impromptu, unstricted, unmerced, unpracticed, unphoregraphed, anything. They couldn't compete for the detention economy. They just couldn't do it. They didn't have any idea. And they didn't have the vessel, either in Baden, by the way, who would have done anything.

He lost. He lost doing stuff. It was the orbit that did not trust their own candidate. They couldn't trust their candidate, they couldn't trust the president, he likes being in the center of attention, but they couldn't put him out there.

So they knew that. They knew the country was at risk. They didn't care. Yeah, I mean and we detail this in our in our other book, Lucky, in 2020. I mean they started this campaign by hi that campaign by kind of hiding him in his basement.

He they built him a studio there so he didn't need a campaign. In this book you see how it got even worse, you know, how he how people were um noticing things even way, way, way ahead of the debate.

So I want I do and by the way, uh j before I move on John, you mentioned that people are writing books to cover their butts. Are you talking about Jake Tapper? I'm not. I didn't name a single person there, Brian. I would just say that this is the book that is absolutely, and no, I'm not talking about the author.

Let me be clear. I'm not talking about the author covering their butt. I'm talking about all of the sources. You're going to see stuff from the Obama camp, from the various other principles' camps, from the Biden camp, where people are telling authors things that cover their own butts. They're coming after us right now saying we didn't fact-check.

We're not there to fact-check stuff with the Biden campaign, the Biden people. Yeah, the Biden people wanted us to send them a manuscript and then let them tell us what was true and what was not, when in fact we were talking to Biden people that on background, not with their names attached to it, actually told us what was going on. And we felt that was more important for the historical record than letting a White House that gaslit the country decide which things were true and which weren't in our manuscript. I mean, the one thing is pretty clear in 2016 that Joe Biden never got over. Not being tapped to run.

He tapped Hillary Clinton, did Barack Obama to replace him, not him. And Hunter had just died at that them. He said they thought he was mourning, so he tapped the former Secretary of State. Biden never got over that. But I'm also looking at this one story that you guys chronicle.

And I remember Jackie, I think her name is Warwarskorsky, right?

So she passes away and was working on a hunger bill. He forgets that she's dead. And asked for her in the audience. And he says a couple of days earlier, he had searched a crowd for an Indiana congresswoman to credit her for the co-sponsoring legislation creating a conference conference on hunger. Hey, Jackie, are you here?

You're right. Where's Jackie?

Now she had died. He felt bad, so he invites the family to the White House. Enter. Kevin McCarthy.

So so you chronicle this story, I guess Kevin told you. It says the White House minority leader tagged along as Biden led the tour group down to the White House swimming pool and to the to the changing rooms. What the blank is going on, McCarthy thought. What could he be so interesting about the locker room? Biden tried the door.

It was locked. He needed a secret service agent to unlock it. Inside, there was nothing more exciting than two dressing rooms. McCarthy, thinking he had just become a temporary staff minder for the president, prompted Biden to head back into the White House. The tour continued to a small office Biden had set up next to the Oval Office.

A chair and a valet. A wrinkled blue shirt hung in the valet. He pointed out a painting that he liked. He said, Wow, this president is not with it. Can you imagine this?

All of a sudden, Kevin McCarthy has got to save the president from a tour into a locker room. All of a sudden, the Speaker of the House thinks he's got to, you know, in the interest of the country, or at least in the interest of the moment, act as a staffer to the president of the United States, who, given this historical building of the White House, decides the best place to show Jackie Walorski's family are the changing rooms outside the White House pool. And Jill Biden's like, please don't do that. Please don't go. It's like an episode of The Office.

I mean, or Veep or. Yeah. So, so, and you said, hey, Kevin, you go, Kevin, ask me why I have a painting of Lincoln. Biden said before answering his own question, is because we've never been at a time like this since the Civil War. And then McCarthy thinks to himself, this guy literally has lost his mind.

So I guess he he helped you out. You also write Ari Emanuel confronted Klain about the President's fitness. He says it's grossly irresponsible for someone of Biden's age who's already clearly slowing down to run for President again. Guys, this is unbelievable.

Well, this is Ariel. This is Ari Emmanuel, who folks might remember the TV show Entourage. The agent Ari is based on Ari Emmanuel. But what's most important about this is Ari Emmanuel is the brother of Rah Emmanuel, the sitting ambassador to Japan under Biden. Look, I am certain those brothers talk.

And Rahm Emmanuel is certainly not in a position to tell Ron Clayman, at least publicly, that Biden shouldn't run, but Ari Emmanuel sure did at this Aspen Festival that this gathering that Ari Emmanuel runs every year. And, you know, it's... They were getting the White House was getting pushback from other Democrats who didn't see Biden all the time, but saw enough, just like the rest of the country, saw enough to know that the president had more than lost his fastball, was struggling to find a changeup. And Brian, we also detail, you know, he's at events, he's at a fundraising event, and people, and you know, he trails off and he forgets what he's going to say. And one of the attendees at the fundraiser says, I don't know if he's going to make it.

He's going to die.

So, but you gave him money anyway, and you let him continue to run. Guys, what? What is the situation right now between Barack Obama and Joe Biden? And what is behind George Cooney's editorial? Who told him to write that?

I mean, their relationship is not good right now, Brian. We report in the book also Nancy Pelosi, he's so angry at her. He'll never forgive her for what she did here. But Barack Obama and Joe Biden have had a pretty contentious relationship, especially in the post-presidency for Obama. You know, he was the guy who chose Hillary Clinton, obviously, to run over, to run in 2016.

He didn't think he could win in 2020. And then in this race, he had his fingerprints all over trying to get him out and trying to lobby behind the scenes, trying to feel out what other lawmakers were thinking. This is something that obviously will continue to fracture their relationship.

So I want you to hear what Newt Gingrich said, and this is how I feel in reading your book and hearing these stories. Cut 23. Both the House and the Senate. Should impanel special Committees. to just focus on this issue.

Who was the president? Who lied about the president? Who made the decisions as though they were president? And what is the constitutional implication of having people who are not the president making these kind of decisions? I mean, I think this is a Very serious, profound historic moment, not a political moment.

In order to be a truly bipartisan committee, truly bipartisan effort, because all of us ought to have an interest as Americans in knowing. What happened, and how could we have been lied to for at least minimum? Of two or two and a half years, we were being consistently, systematically lied to. Do you agree? I mean, that's not your decision.

You're not in Congress. But would you like to see an investigation? Yes, I think that it is important. I think the Speaker is absolutely right. I think it's important to understand exactly what was going on in the White House.

And the best way for the public to understand that is to have people on the record under oath. Talking about what happened. And the reason that I say that, Brian, and I I think you know, look, Speaker Gingrich says it's uh nonpartisan, should be bipartisan, and we know. Speaker Gingrich is a former Republican speaker in the House. He is.

I he's right about that, that both parties and everybody in America should be concerned about what was actually going on at the White House. I don't know if it's scarier if other people were making decisions or if Joe Biden was making the decisions. Lastly, guys, before I let you go, because we're up against a break, what was behind the Clooney? Who was behind the Clooney editorial? Who told him to write that?

Who wrote it? There is a lot of suspicion that the Obama folks are behind it. And it sounds a lot like Obama's voice, and people that talked to us kind of hinted at that. But, you know, they tried to kill it. And we detail that in the book.

Jeffrey Katzenberg divided people, tried to kill it, and went after him really hard. Jeffrey Katzenberg leading that charge, and they weren't successful, obviously. Right. There were no winners, right? I mean, there's just no winners.

I guess Trump is a winner, but our country definitely did not have a president. Guys, great job. It wasn't easy. Every single one of these stories you had to dig for. And it's all in your book: 300-plus pages.

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