Tragic mid-air collision between Army black hawk, commercial plane leaves no survivors

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for being here. Brian Kilmicho on this day.

Everyone knows the number one story is the plane crash that happened last night. An American Airlines jet, regional jet, had a crash with a Black Hawk helicopter from Beth Belivore, Fort Belivore, right over in Maryland. Sadly, all 60 died, and the American airline, they've gotten 27 bodies in three. Only one have come from the Black Hawk. There were three overall.

It was a normal training mission. They weren't on a mission. They were training experienced pilots all around. Lack of communication could be the key. We don't know a lot, but we have already heard from Sean Duffy, the brand new Transportation Secretary, about to get a tape statement from Pete Hagsett, the brand new Secretary of Defense.

Currently, there's a press conference in Kansas where this flight initiated from, and it came from Wichita right off the U.S. figure skating championships. And then for the elite skaters, they stayed an extra couple of days until the 28th and then flew out. And sadly, they lost their lives, including two Russian figure skaters.

So the figure skating community has been devastated. Kansas, this is a relatively new route. It's only about a year old. It goes from Wichita. over to Reagan.

So we'll keep you updated on that. We have this hour going to be joined by Walter Isaacson. Walter Isaacson is the biographer of Elon Musk, the role he's playing already I was a little stunned by it. I thought he was going to be evaluating, discussing and then trying to get implementation. I didn't know they were implementing already Walter Isaacson on Elon Musk, the most famous and possibly the most famous and impactful person in the world, no matter what you think of him.

Joining us now is Congressman Jason Smith from Ways and Means. And we have a lot to discuss. First off, Congressman, this has really rocked the country, but really rocked the nation's capital, right? Brian, it's absolutely heartbreaking. We feel so much for the families of these victims and the first responders.

It hits really close to home. That flight path that the plane was coming in from Wichita, I'm from Missouri. I do that twice a week. Every member of Congress does that multiple times a week. Anyone who's visiting the United States Capitol, that's how they fly in.

And we haven't seen Tragic accident like this in 40 years. It's really, really heartbreaking. And brand new, I mean, brand new cabinet secretary is in place, a brand new team. The administration is, what, two weeks old?

So everyone's got to hit the ground running. Good thing you do have experienced people. Mike Waltz was on to talk about a myriad of things, but he quickly switched to this. Here's what he told us an hour ago on Fox and Friends, Cut Nine. This was a routine training flight.

As you know, a Blackhawk typically has two pilots. In this case, it was, and I can tell you it was an officer and a warrant officer. They tend to have a lot of experience. And then you have an enlisted crew chief in the back.

So we'll let the investigation unfold as what happened.

So we'll have to see. I mean, the people are going to find out what the tower was telling you. They asked them thirty seconds before the crash, they said they asked the helicopter, can you see the plane? They said yes. But the question was, were they looking at the right plane?

You know, we have a lot to learn from the investigation. Of course, we as Americans expect results and information immediately, but it's going to take some time because It appears from what we've seen, both were doing the normal flight patterns like that they should. It's just this is such a rare, rare situation, and we need to figure out. exactly what happened, why it happened. We can't have this happen again.

So on something of lesser importance, but in talk about running the government, Congressman, as we talk about saving, we talk about freezing hiring. We talk about an offer To 2.3 million Federal workers. You could stay home, get six months' pay, but just say you're going to resign. This is something that came from Doge. I found out they're also revamping and interviewing people on the U.S.

digital side. If you want to balance the budget, and we're going to do these taxes on tips cuts, no taxes on tips, and Social Security, these are the types of cuts that have to happen on spending. Are they related? Uh what The fiscal house of the country is absolutely related because we're at a $1.8 to $2 trillion spending deficit on average just yearly. And that means that we're spending virtually $7 trillion and the revenues are only coming in $5 trillion.

We have to cut the spending. If you compare spending to GDP over the last five years, Brian, it averages 26%. The 20 years before that, it averaged 20% of GDP. And then revenues that come into the United States averages 17% of GDP.

So we have to look at the entire fiscal health of the nation. But every American, every American should be upset. to see that only six percent Of the federal employee workforce is actually showing the work. Showing up to work. That's ridiculous.

Like, I am so proud of President Trump and Doge for pushing this out. I mean, the prior administration, they just emboldened this process. And I'll tell you, I wonder why there's more than a million claims with the Social Security Office that are backdated. More than a million cases. It's because less than 10% of their employees are actually working.

It's crazy. And we don't, you know, and we're just assuming that they're getting stuff done while they're at home.

So now they're saying that don't fall for it. I was shocked to see that Doge is working so effectively. According to the Washington Post, Elon Musk has put together a lot of his guys from the private sector, had them go in, lace together the 2.3 million people, put them on an email for the first time ever, made this offer. He brought his HR guy, a team from SpaceX, and made this offer. He's also sitting down with the.

A digital team renamed it U.S. Doge instead of U.S. Digital Services, and he's making them explain to his guys, think about this: the best of the best, what they do. and how they do it and and really justify their job. Because this is the type of thing that has to happen.

We have to have that private sector responsibility and accountability in government. I did not know they were making these types of moves. This just goes to show. How great of a leader President Trump is, Brian. He was a visionary to see that he needed to create this new government efficiency committee.

He chose to put Elon Musk, a very successful businessman, who, when you look at some of his early emails when he purchased Twitter or XML, it's virtually the same thing that he's doing with the federal government. And it worked there. It absolutely worked there. They reduced the size of Twitter, made it more efficient and more profitable. That's what we have to do with the American taxpayer dollars.

We need to make sure that we stretch every dollar to the fullest and most efficient way. And I am so excited about that. Look at the entire cabinet that President Trump has put in place. Whether it's Pete Hexeth, whether it's Sean Duffy, Christy Noam, these are people that are reformers. They're dedicated to public service, and they are not afraid to make tough decisions to deliver for the American taxpayer.

Right.

So not everybody's as excited as you. Here's Chuck Schumer, Cut 29. We saw what happens when Americans fight back. against disastrous policies. Americans made their voices heard.

Donald Trump rescinded the OMB order.

Now he should rescind the nomination of Russell Vogt. When the Trump administration announced This awful directive on Monday night. We knew immediately it was short-sighted, disastrous, cruel, and dumb.

So he was referring to the freeze on spending programs outside people that weren't affected directly and outside Social Security and Medicare. That was not the most clearest directive he's given. I get it. But Russell Vogt is not on the job yet. The problem is, he's not on the job.

Does Chuck Schumer know what an idiotic statement that was? I don't know if he does or not, Brian, but Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats need to stop stalling the President's confirmations. Russ Volt needs to be on the job. He's not on the job, and it's because of the Democrat tactics in slowing things down. Do you know when President Obama was sworn in, he had like six or seven of his cabinet officials confirmed on the first day?

On the first day. We got one. Marco Rubio. And then it took a long time for Pete Hanksup, and it's been taking a long time for everyone else. We don't even have seven yet.

And so this is because of the Democrats Democrats pulling out all stops that they can to stall time, hit every emergency budget they can. But I would tell leader Schumer That the American people spoke loud and clear of what policies they support and what policies they don't support. And I'll tell you what they said that they don't support. They don't support DEI in government. And that's in fact why the President froze the funding is to make sure there wasn't money going into DEI.

He also froze the money to make sure that they're abiding by the law and making sure that the Hatch Act is not violated and allowing funding to go to abortion. Yeah, today is going to be a big day. RFK round two is going to start at 10 o'clock. Then we have Cash Patel starts at 9:30 Eastern Time. That's 15 minutes.

And then Tulsi Gabbard is going to be going starting today, and they're going to try to knock her off. They want to be able to knock off one, not so much for any other reason to say that they're off the mat and ready to react. But so far, between the executive actions and executive orders, 350 plus. The other thing, Jason Smith, that I think is important is what they're doing at the border. The numbers are stunning.

I expected Trump to move quick, but nobody expected the Lake and Riley Act to pass. And nobody expected. Yesterday at the Rio Grande crossing, there were 60 people that came across. And on Biden's last day, there was as many as 4,000. I mean, sixty people.

The word's out. America is closed.

Okay. The word is out that President Trump is following through what he says he's going to do. Whether it's the border policy or whether it's what happened with Colombia in just the last couple of days, where they refused their own citizen criminals, and when the president was like, If you're not going to work with us, you're not an ally and a friend, and virtually you don't have a free trade agreement, I'm going to put a 25% tariff on everything. And guess what? They backtracked immediately.

And that's what all these cartels are seeing. The president declared the cartels as terrorists. They know that he's not messing around. They know that he declared the southern border as an emergency, disaster area. I mean, these are things.

He said he was going to reinstate and remain in Mexico. He said he was going to end catch and relief. He did all that on day one. And we've been begging and asking the administration to do that because we knew that this would stop the flow of illegals crossing the southern border. Right.

So, Congressman, let's talk about the reality of what you're going to do in terms of the first big bill. You want one, Senate wants two. We've been discussing this back and forth. But the key is going to be Chip Roy and Tom Massey. Did they get the message at Doral over this week when the President met with you guys?

You would have to ask them, Brian, but the key is not Chip Roy and Thomas Massey. The key is 218 Republicans in the House of Representatives because one person could kill the bill. It's not just those two. One person can do it. And what they need to remember.

Is that the only reason Republicans control the House of Representatives, the only reason Republicans control the Senate, and the only reason why Donald Trump is in the White House is because of Donald Trump and the policies that he campaigned on.

Some of the discussion that you hear and debates, those were decided in the election when 77 million people said, these are the policies that I support. These are the policies that I want to implement. The House has to stick together, the Senate has to stick together, and we have to deliver as soon as possible what the president campaigned on when it comes to the border, when it comes to economic policies, when it comes to energy policies. But unfortunately, what you see in Washington, Brian, is some people like to go after their own special. special projects which people do not real Americans absolutely despise and hate.

And so they're holding things up for X, Y and Z.

So a couple of things.

So for example, I agree. Tom Massey's an eclectic guy, very smart, but he has no sense of team. And he also is not a Trump fan. He's a DeSantis fan. Number two, Chip Roy, I really think his objective is pure.

He wants the spending under control. If you promise with him, we get I promise you we're going to do regular order and go through committees, which you should be doing anyway. Does that get the debt ceiling raised? Because you understand we can't have the government shut down. And does that get him on board for the tax reform renewal Along with the additional tax cuts the President wants.

You know, Brian, I have faith in both of my colleagues, Chiproy and Thomas Massey, that they will do what's right for the American people and that we will all work to get to the right. To a solution. I tell everyone, we have to thread a needle with this conference. Everyone's gonna have to give and take. Um, Jason Smith's not going to get everything that he wants.

Speaker Johnson's definitely not going to get much of what he wants, and Chip Roy is not going to get everything he wants. We have to work together for the good of the American people. And I believe, I believe, Thomas Massey will. I believe Chip Roy will. They're good people.

They want to serve their constituents. We may disagree on substance and some issues. That's the thing with the Republican Party: we're all independent. We're not like a bunch of sheep that just follows their one leader over the cliff.

So let me have you.

So break out your calculator for a second. If you're going to do the tax reform renewal and get it to the Senate. Uh What are you going to do for revenue if you're going to put salt tax back then make it deductible again as well as no tax on tips and social security? You know, we're we're there's not going to be an unlimited Salt cap. That just, it's something that just can't pass.

We have to find what is a reasonable SALT cap, and we have to pay for it. We absolutely have to pay for it. And there are several ways that we can do it. All right. I'll have to hold it there.

Congressman, sadly, I have to go to break. I went a little long with you, Chairman of House, Ways, and Means. Jason, we're going to talk to you again about how you plan on doing it. Of course, the number one story is the chopper plane crash last night in Washington, D.C. Back in a moment.

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A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. The helicopter was in the standard pattern. If you live in the DC area, you'll see helicopters up and down the river. This flight pattern is seen oftentimes when you live in DC.

This was a standard flight pattern last night as well. the American airline flight coming into land was in a standard flight pattern as it was coming into DCA.

So uh this was not unusual. With a military aircraft. Flying the river and aircraft landing. at DCA. And again, if you live in the area Uh you'll see that frequently.

So the president put out on Truth Social that all this was a tragedy and it was avoidable.

So Sean Duffy had to ask right away, do you believe it was avoidable? He went back to the microphone. The very last thing he said is this this whole incident was indeed avoidable. Which makes sense because You'd have crashes every day if you think, well, that's what happens when you have a chopper in a plane. No, it almost never happens.

It's been over 13 years since anything like this has happened. And maybe it's the tower, maybe it's the airline, but it looks like the airline, you know, it's like turning around an elephant. You're not going to be able to move it quickly. And the chopper looks like the one that seems to have rammed into it, whether they're getting bad information or bad visuals. They do know optimum is four people, one looking out each side with the chopper.

They had three. Is that an incident? If someone was looking at the other side, would they have seen the Americans yet? I'm not sure. When we come back, we change gears.

Walter Isaacson, one of America's finest biographers, did a great book on Elon Musk. He's one of the most famous, most controversial people in the world, and maybe the most brilliant. He'll be joining us to talk about his role with this administration, how long they think it'll last, the controversy he's stirring overseas, and so much more. Brian Kilman. A radio show like no other.

It's Brian Killmead. Hey, we're back. Of course, we're following all the tragedy and try to get some answers on the plane crash that crashed with the Blackhawk last night about 9 o'clock Eastern Time. It's really paralyzed Washington, D.C. until 11 o'clock.

One of the best, the busiest airport in the country, perhaps, is locked down until 11. They're trying to figure things out. They've picked out, when I started this show, coming off Fox and Friends, 27 bodies, but there were 60 on the American Airlines yet. There were three on the Black Hawk during a training mission. We'll keep you up to date on what's happening.

And we'll also, and we'll break in.

So far, 67 feared dead. Let's bring in maybe the country's number one biographer. Certainly, what he's done has been nothing short of prolific. His latest project was following around and making sense of one of the most fascinating people of his generation, the Benjamin Franklin of this generation, so to speak, Elon Musk. He teaches at Tulane.

I've got a family member there right now, and Walter Isaacson joins us. Walter, welcome to the Brian Kilmeet Show. Hey, Brian, thank you. I can't wait to meet your family member. It's too late.

Oh, yes. Go down and teach my class now. Yeah, he's in the last year of law school there, and I'll be coming down for hopefully maybe meet by the Super Bowl. Oh, yeah, I'll see you at the Super Bowl. Absolutely.

So, Walter, I love Steve Jobs, and it gave me such a confidence on and knowing that he was alive and commissioned you to write a tough book on him in real time. And he said, Be as tough and just be as fair. That's all he wanted. And then you take on an equally fascinating person with Elon Musk. First off, how did you get him to agree?

Before we talk about what he's doing, it was really interesting, Brian. I talked to him, and he said he wanted to do it.

So we had an hour-long talk on the phone. I said, Here's the deal: I don't want to do this based on 10 or 20 interviews. I want to do this based on two years of being by your side whenever I want, living in an airstream trailer next to your house, morning, noon, and night. And he went, Okay. And then I said, But here's the other part of the deal: I want this to be a fair book, and I don't want you to read it in advance or have any control over it.

And he went, Okay. And I was kind of surprised. And then I went talking to friends about half an hour later. They said, We didn't know you were writing a book on Elon Musk. I said, What do you mean?

He said, He just tweeted out, Walter's writing my biography.

So that's how we got going. Wow, and then you did. And talk about how your relationship evolved. How did you get his trust? And what was it like over those two years before we get into what he's doing now with Trump and Germany and everything?

I sat by his side and just watched. I mean, you've seen American journalists these days. There are very few that try to do what I did, which is just sit by somebody, get it exactly right, take notes. And I always stayed in the background a little bit. But there was no meeting he ever kicked me out of.

And after every meeting, he would sit and talk and reflect and explain what had happened. And the book, I think, is, you know, and I think he feels that way too, is warts and all, but it's right on fair. I just try to tell you the story. I'm a New Orleans guy. And so I'm not there to preach at you.

I'm there to say, hey, this is a really interesting story. Watch him how he does the Raptor engine. Watch how he does the full self-driving. Watch how he goes into Twitter and changes it. And then you make your own decisions.

You thought you had a great book, and then he gets involved with Twitter. And I'm thinking to myself, this probably just extended the whole journey for another, what, six months? As he does one of the most fascinating things? I mean, what was that like? Do you think you were done?

And all of a sudden. Your book just got even better and more exciting.

So in late 2022, I'm with him and he's just become the richest person on earth, person of the year at time and other places. And I said, well, you must be satisfied. You know, you've hit all your marks. And he said, no, whenever I play a video game, I can never be satisfied at the level I'm at. I've got to move to the next level.

I don't like calm. I don't like success. I like drama. I like challenge. I said, what do you mean?

He said, well, I'm secretly buying up shares of Twitter. And uh that In some ways, helped bring the book all around because it gave you the political and personal aspects of them, an emotional aspect, which you don't have just with rocket engines or electric cars. And the way he went into Twitter is a playbook for what he's doing right now in the federal government, which is delete every unnecessary part, question every unnecessary requirement. And if you're not ripping away, More than is wise, and you don't have to add some stuff back in the end, then you're not being bold enough. This is why your book helped me so much.

Is because he comes in, he gets close to Trump and he puts the money in, but he makes his appearances and they're getting along. And when he says, I want to get into efficiency, I remember listening to that on his live Twitter broadcast. I don't know what he calls it, I forgot. And he said, I'd like to help you out. And Trump just went over that.

And he goes, No, no, I'd like to help you out. I like to do efficiency. And I'm thinking to myself, normally, why would a guy who thinks so big and thinks about transforming the electric car business and putting Go into space want to do something as seemingly boring until you realize the reason why Tesla worked is because he would sleep on the manufacturing floor. He would stare at the production and think, why does that screw need to be needed? Why can't we get this lighter?

Why can't the design be better? And you realize he likes the detail of all these things. He does focus on leaning out things and making it more efficient. You know, God is in the details and the devil is in the details. I really appreciate you've read the book that well because, indeed, that's what he does.

He sleeps on the factory floor. And you know what? He slept in the old executive office building last week a couple of times because he's working on government efficiency. There's a quality about Musk in which he is all in. And I find that frightening at times.

I mean, look, the book also says, hey, this can be unnerving because when he sets himself on a mission, whether it's getting to Mars or cutting $2 trillion from the federal budget, He doesn't sort of say, let me balance things, let me be nuanced. He leaves some rubble in his wake, but he knows that's the only way you can get major things done.

So I'm reading the story in the Washington Post today, and I thought Doge was going to be studying things and recommending. I did not know they were full in this aggressively. Do you know that whole? I'm sure you do. Do you know that he is looking at that federal workforce of 2.3 million?

He already set up a way to lace them all in the same email with his staff and a human resources guy from SpaceX, who you probably know. And he looked and says, guys. Yeah. And he says, hey, guys, if you want to quit, we'll give you six months. You have to come in.

If you're not going to come in, you're going to be fired. And I didn't know. No, he did not check with the White House. You know in the book, he goes into Twitter about a week after the acquisition. He's actually been staying there overnight, and he says, all right, we're going to do a memo called A Fork in the Road.

And there it is in my book, in which he and his young cousin and a couple of people, just close core people at Twitter, figure out how you're going to fire a large percent of the workforce by saying you've got to opt in and decide you want to stay on these conditions. And the memo that he wrote and sent out two days ago had the same title to it, A Fork in the Road.

So the playbook of everything he is about to do. If I were a government employee, I'd read the playbook, because you can tell what he's about to do from what he did at Twitter and what he's been doing at SpaceX. And Tesla. But Walter Isaacson, if you told me you were doing that at a company, I'd say, okay. But I don't think it's ever been done like this at a college.

Excuse me. At the federal government. And I remember if Teddy Ross. That's the big issue, just real quick, is this is what we're going to see, because he kind of owns SpaceX. He certainly controls and sort of owns Tesla.

He doesn't own the federal government, but you pointed out rightly, he's put his people, these young engineers, all of whom I know, are at the Office of Personnel Management. They're at the Justice Department. They're at all of these agencies. And he is drilling down with his own people in these agencies.

So, can he do it?

So, they have some of them under union. He transferred 50,000 to at-will employees. I don't know if that's going to fly.

So, he's telling all these people: come to work. Only 3% go to work. Come to the workplace where you're fired. And by the way, if you want to just quit, here's six months you can quit. He also renamed the U.S.

Digital Services to U.S. Does Services, where he's sitting down with the government's digital people, and essentially they have to justify their job. I mean, I love this. Uh that he's doing this. Absolutely.

And what he's done is he's found that even what you said earlier in this show about sending an e mail to all federal employees, that was impossible to do, both technologically and people thought it might be against the regulations. And Musk just said, I want to find a way to do it, and I want it done within twenty four hours, where we can send an e mail to all uh employees So do you think just now this is your opinion from what you know about Trump and what you know about Musk, the fact that he did not the White House was caught off guard, not that they would be disagreed with him or slowed him down, I don't know, but do you think we're already seeing some issues with a born two born leaders? Yeah, I mean, I think President Trump hasn't shared the limelight or power much during his career, and Elon Musk has never worked for anybody in his career.

So it's not a naturally stable molecule. But at the moment, they seem to have strongly bonded. I think Elon Musk can probably be at the White House anytime and even stay over if he needed to. And that bond continues because they both need each other. I think that there is a possibility that Musk does something without checking with Trump, or you saw it happen on a couple of issues where Musk got ahead of Trump or on side Trump.

You know, Trump Trump is an interesting character. He likes effective people, but then he can come down hard. It's interesting. Steve Bannon tried to get Musk moved out of the orbit because Bannon is a different type of populist nationalist populism. And Musk ended up being there in front of the Commerce Secretary at the inauguration with Steve Bannon not there.

So at the moment, it's working out for Musk. Yeah, believe me. Steve Bannon's got some issues, and he's already turned on Trump once. I don't know why he was let back in into that orbit. It doesn't make any sense.

So, one thing I think is the biggest joke, and I think, Walter, you agree with me, there is no way he was giving a Nazi salute. The only thing that gets him excited where he loses control, I think, is when he gets in front of crowds. They're chanting his name. He sees the emotion that Trump brings up. I think he gets moved by it.

In my mind, there's no way he was doing a Nazi salute. What about you? He was a very lonely child, didn't have many friends, grew up at the corner of the book, sitting in the corner of the bookstore, as you know from my book, reading X-Man comics and pretending he was a superhero.

So you're right. He gets supercharged when he's in front of crowds. And this is a whole new experience to be at rally's cheering for him. But no, I agree. I can't imagine why intentionally he'd be giving a Nazi salute.

So no, that was not some intentional Nazi salute. And if people really cared, they'd call you and say you spent two years, and what do you think? Of course it would. People don't deny. If they give a Nazi salute, they usually embrace it, according to the black and white video I've had a chance to review.

Here's Elon Musk a couple of days ago addressing the German people, CUT 35.

Well, first of all, I wanted to really say that I'm very excited for the IFD. And I think you are really the best hope for Germany. Um I think some things that is just very important is that people take pride. Yeah. In Germany and being German.

This is very important. You know, it's okay to be proud to be German. This is a very important principle. And he went on to say this: cut 36. I think there's like.

Frankly, too much of a focus on past guilt, and we need to move beyond that. People people children should not be guilty of the sins of their parents. Your thoughts about his statement that created so much controversy.

Well, it's not something I agree with. And it's not up to me to be preaching my own beliefs. I think that the Germans have to figure out how to wrestle with their past and do it. But I think what Musk taps into is a global phenomenon that's happening, which is a renewed sense of nationalism. And this means too much immigration can hurt a sense of a nation.

Many other things reduce Nationalism. And whether it's about immigration in England or with Maloney, Prime Minister Maloney, his friend in Italy, or with the German AFD party, he has taken much more of an anti-immigrant nationalist stance. You know, if it were me, I would not wander into the territory of should you still be remembering the Holocaust, because I believe you should be. Right.

I guess his point is, guys, if you're going to reach your potential, the Germans are in such a wallowing, don't focus on World War II. And that's always a third rail.

So lastly, I thought about you two in the Oval Office last week. After they announced that $500 billion power center with Altman and Oracle CEO Ellison, as well as I think the Japanese leader, Elon Musk came out and said they don't have the money and it's not going to work. Here's what Trump said. Mr. President, does it bother you that Elon Musk criticized a deal that you made publicly that he said that he tweeted that?

No, it doesn't. He hates one of the people in the deal. Have you spoken to him since then? No, no. I've spoken to all of them, actually.

No, no, the people in the deal are very, very smart people. But Elon, one of the people he happens to hate, but I have certain hatreds of people too.

So Trump took it in stride. He used to never do that. You're what's with him in Altman? I mean, is it really that bad? Yeah, there are two chapters in the book about Elon Musk and Steve and Sam Altman, and they're exactly played out on stage this past week.

They started together, OpenAI, which, as you know, was supposed to be an open source system, just like the one the Chinese released this past week. And it was supposed to be a nonprofit. Sam then turned it into a for-profit and made it a closed rather than open source code. That trend. Truly offended Musk.

And even that first week he's in Twitter and trying to fix Twitter. I'm there and he's insisting that Sam Altman come over and bring the founding documents of OpenAI because he wants to get into a fight, a lawsuit with Sam Altman over that. And so I find it interesting that Trump can be amused. Hey, they're people I've hated, people, whatever. And he knows full well that Elon cannot stand Sam Altman.

And maybe having Sam Altman there doing that big deal in the Oval Office was a way of Trump reminding people he's the one in charge.

So he writes about people of the past like Benjamin Franklin, Steve Jobs, and Elon Musk. Projects who would be too overwhelming and intimidating to most, including me, but he does it and you seem to enjoy it. Walter Iserson, thanks so much. If you want to know about the most impactful person in the world today in a way you never thought possible, pick up Walter's book. Walter, thanks so much.

I know we can go for another two hours and hopefully when you're in New York we can. Mm. All right, Brian, thank you so much, man. All right. Back in a moment.

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Thanks so much for being here, everybody. It's the Brian Kill Meat Show. This show changed dramatically, like it did around the country when we saw that plane crash into the Black Hawk or the Black Hawk into the American Airlines jet that killed 67 people. They've already recovered 28 bodies. Sun came up.

They already had gotten 19 in the middle of the night. But there are no survivors, sadly. The water, the fact that these two aircraft crashed, we don't have the answers. We we know that the between the tower, between the Blackhawk on a training mission, they had three crew members. Maximum would be four, but they said it's not unusual to train with three.

And then you have a a regional jet with sixty plus passengers, two pilots and a and two flight attendants.

So They were coming in out of Wichita. They were landing.

So we have the communication. We even have the video. We're going to get to the bottom of this. We heard from the Pentagon. We heard from the Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy, already.

He's been on the job for all 24 hours. Pete's been on the job for two days. He not only has met with the press, he already put out a tape on what he knows. I'd like to hear from Fett Bell Ford Belavor about what they know about the aircraft, the Blackhawk.

So we're going to get to the bottom of this, but it freaks people out because of the number of Blackhawks buzzing around with the VIPs in Washington, D.C., the amount of people, the important people, and everyday people that go through Reagan Airport, and then we're just not used to these planes crashing. Is this going to be an air traffic controller situation where there's too few working too many hours? We're going to get to the bottom of it. With us this hour, Josh Crash Hour, as well as Mark Thiessen. Mark, I want to talk about the confirmations.

I do want to talk about the executive orders. But first, your take on what you know about this crash and what stands out. Yeah, I mean, just like everybody else in DC, because you know, Reagan Airport is in the middle of downtown. It's like right near the capital. I live in old town Alexandria.

So, I mean, I think if you if you Stopped 10 people in Washington on the street, nine of them would have flown that, landed in that flight platform in the last six months. It's just, it's how everybody gets in and out of D.C. You know, and so it's just shocking for it really shocks you to the core as a person who, you know, literally has flown, as like everybody else has flown down that flight path and seen helicopters buzzing outside your window. And we all see the helicopters flying around D.C. when I was in the White House, I used to fly in them sometimes.

It's a busy, highly restricted airspace, but just to think that a plane on that path that I've taken that everybody else in D.C. has taken crashed is terrifying. Yeah, also the figure skating community has been devastated. They have the national championships there, and the elite skaters were asked to stick around for a couple of years. Yeah, so they have flew from Wichita, Kansas, yeah, into D.C., including two Russian skating champions.

So they've been alerted and we heard, saw our press conferences out in Wichita already. On a much lesser note, I had Tom Cotton on at 6:10 this morning on Fox and Friends, and I asked. Asked him, are you having committee members? He goes, absolutely. Are you going to have committee hearings?

And he said, yes. This underlines the fact that we have to get people in place. We had Sean Duffy there. There was no reason why he couldn't have been in last weekend. Speed Hagseth was out of committee for a week.

So come on, get this thing done.

So, front and center, can you tell me what you think of RFK's testimony yesterday? I don't think they laid too much of a hand on him. I think that actually the one person who did kind of lay a hand on him is Elizabeth Warren because he has made millions of dollars suing drug manufacturers and she asked him if he would forego any future funding, any future profits from lawsuits against drug manufacturers, and he refused.

So that it she seems to have kind of caught him in a conflict of interest. You can't be the secretary of HHS while you're making millions of dollars suing drug companies when you're also regulating the drug companies and you can influence the lawsuits by the policies you make.

So I'm not usually someone who agrees with Elizabeth Warren on anything, but she had a pretty good point there. But the larger point, there's a lot of things that RFK has said that are kind of out there when it comes to vaccines, when it comes to infectious disease, when it comes to other things like that. But you know what? If you don't like the RFK is heading towards HHS, the person to blame is Anthony Fauci. Uh Because of the mishandling of the COVID pandemic and all the lies that the American people were told during the COVID pandemic, trust in public health institutions has absolutely plummeted.

And so, when public health experts go out and say, well, what he's saying about vaccines is crazy, you know, that it's not based on science. Oh, like the science that told us we had to shut down our schools, or the science that told us that natural immunity isn't good enough, that you have to have vaccinated immunity. Oh, the science that said we have to shut down our businesses. Oh, the science that told us six feet distancing and you ought to wear masks everywhere you go. Like people are burned by the experts.

They don't trust the experts. And so when you destroy the credibility of expertise, you get RFK. And that's what we're getting. President of the United States is going to speak in 45 minutes about the plane crash. He already tweeted out or put on Truth Social that it was preventable.

This is his great moment. This is the moment I take away and why I think he'd be really good in his spot. He's going to look at a study and say, who did the study and how was it done before I accept it? He's going to who financed it before I'm going to accept it. I'm going to find out who's doing these, you know, who's finding out these conclusions.

If you tell me that if you take this polio shot, there's a 98% chance you're not going to get polio. Who did the study? He's going to question things. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But why is he doing it?

Cut thirteen. My question to you is As ch as Secretary HHS, will you honor These requests from Congress, and will you make HS transparent. Yes, my approach, HH, as I said before, Senator, Is radical transparency. Democrats and Republicans ought to be able to come in. And get information that was generated at taxpayer expense that is owned by the American taxpayer.

They shouldn't get redacted documents. Public health agencies should be transparent. And if we want Americans to restore trust in the public health agencies, we need transparency. And here he went on to say this, cut fourteen. I know how to fix it, and there's nobody.

Will fix it the way that I do because I'm not scared of vested interests. I don't care. I'm not here because I want a position or a job. I have a very good life and a happy family. This is something I don't need.

I want to do this because we're going to fix it. And the other thing is, we are attracting now. A caliber of people to HHS. like never before in history. And they're entrepreneurs, they're They're disruptors.

That got me excited. Uh you know, changing things, opening things up, doing things for the right reason. Yeah, so I mean, one of the things is, so, you know, we've got the decimation of trust in the public health institutions. There's also never been any accountability for it. Where was the COVID-9-11 Commission?

Where was the 9-11 Commission into the closing of our schools and the closing of our businesses and the vaccine mandates and all the lies that were told in the name of public health?

So that's why what RFK says there is appealing. Is he the right person to do it? Look, RFK, let's just be honest about who he is. He is a pro-abortion liberal Democrat who endorsed Donald Trump. and is being rewarded for his endorsement because it helps with independence.

Uh but he's not he's not one of us. And he may be right on, I think he's definitely right when it comes to food safety and some of the food supply. And I think there's a lot to be looked into. Do I believe that he's the right person to do all this? I'm skeptical of that.

But I understand why he is where he is, because the trust has been, because our public health institutions, just like our justice system and our intelligence community have all been politicized. And that's why you have Tulsi and that's why you have Cache Patel. It's like every one of these institutions where people are saying, I can't believe Donald Trump is nominating these people. It's like, well, look at the institution. Look at this is an institution that's failed the American people.

The HHS failed the American people during the pandemic. The Justice Department failed the American people by waging war on its political politicized prosecutions against a political opponent. The intelligence community, 51 intelligence experts said that the Hunter-Biden laptop was Russian disinformation. They told us that Trump was a Russian agent who conspired with Vladimir Putin. There's a decimation of trust in these institutions.

And when you lose public trust, this is what you get. Yeah. So we're going to have testimony from Cash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard today. We're going to have round two or RFK and then we'll see how they get through. Do you think that, well, it's up to really Senator Cassidy of Louisiana because I don't think he's going to get any Democratic support, even though he spent his whole life as a Democrat and his family's the most famous Democratic family in the country.

I want to talk about what Trump's doing in this. The Shelby White House was attacking him like he was some sort of stranger. were roommates in school together and he was in his wedding. No way really Goods. Yes.

He's in there saying, people think you're a threat. It's like, oh, why didn't you show me that during during my wedding ceremony when you were standing there in a morning coat next to me when I was getting married? You know, they literally were roommates. Yeah. That's fa that I did not know that.

So, Mark, I want to move on and talk about the President, the speed in which he's doing things. Lake and Riley bill is signed, is now law. That's great. But we don't have any the rest are executive orders, over 300. What's happening at the border is astoundingly great.

The other things, the communication on the bill on freezing all spending, that was not done well. That was the old Trump. But hopefully, when the Office of Management Budget gets a director, we'll have a little bit more organization. Your take on what you've seen so far? The flurry of activity is both energizing and almost dizzying.

We got used to over the last four years this sort of sleepy start at 10 a.m., end the day at 4 p.m. with a nap in between presidency. And we've gone to life from zero to 60 in like a split second. I mean, did you see Trump's speech at the Congressional Institute the other day when he was after when he went to meet with all the members? And he spent 15 minutes laying out all his accomplishments.

Not in the first not for his first term, in his first week. It was just like, you know, we we ended DEI and we declared that they're two genders and we're deporting people and we're doing it was just like a litany accomplishments already. And he hadn't even been in office for an entire week yet. I mean, it's just, it's so great. And, you know, yeah, when you do that much that quickly, you're going to stumble on some things and that's fine.

And then you, of course, correct and you do it again. And, you know, and he's, and, you know, people are saying, well, it's all executive orders.

Well, the Lake and Riley Act is an executive order. It's a law. And he's going to have three shit bites at the apple within a year to pass Republican-only reconciliation bills.

So we're going to get some legislation too. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it'll be good to see. And also, I found out, too, and we were talking to Walter Isaacson a different hour on the show about Elon Musk. His Doge is not only are they at work, they're blitzing. They're the ones who came up with the whole, you can leave in six months, just promise to resign plan.

They went into the digital, renamed it U.S. Digital from U.S. Doge, and they're making people define with his digital team, making people tell them what they do. And they're going to re they're revamping that. And then I did not know this, but Walter Isaacson said that he slept in the Isaacson building, he'd slept in the Eisenhower building two of the last three days.

So, this guy is doing what he did at Tesla. I've done that a few times. Yeah. I know what it's like. It's uncomfortable.

But he is so focused on getting this done. I mean, your thoughts about it, but he did not inform the White House that he was doing it.

So I'm finding that this is fascinating for me. What do you think?

So, first of all, I think the buyouts for the federal workers are absolutely awesome. I hope that at least 10% take them, and we can cut 10% off the top of the federal workforce, and no one would even know.

Well, they've got to come to work or they're going to be fired.

So, either two. Yeah, so make your decision. But take the buyout. I mean, I think buyouts, I think, are genius. And, two, I've told you this before, but I think the partnership between Donald Trump and Elon Musk is the greatest partnership between a president and an inventor since Benjamin Franklin and George Washington.

And it has the potential to transform our country in very similar ways. Because what we're really experiencing here is really a second American revolution in a lot of ways. They're trying to revolutionize this country. It's a popular uprising to transform the government. And you've got a partnership between the greatest inventor of his era and the greatest political talent of his era to do it.

Here is what J.D. Vance told Sean last night about what he's noticing about the President, and that is Cut 32. You know, we've, I think, accomplished honestly more in eight days than the entire Biden administration accomplished in four years. And of course, the things that we're accomplishing are actually good things, and the things they were accomplishing were mostly bad things. But the president has incredible energy.

I mean, this is something you hear other people say about him, and it's hard to really appreciate it until you're up close and personal. I don't know how much he sleeps or if he ever really sleeps. And we went on to say he got a call at one in the morning the other night. Yes, he calls him up just to talk to him, ask him how his kids are.

So he's got boundless energy. And I think the difference for me this time with him is that he's letting people do their own thing. We see Pete on tape today, Secretary of Defense. We saw his press conference. We see Sean Duffy do his thing.

Letting Musk do his thing. And I think that this is going to be good because he thoroughly trusts the people he has. Yep. And it's not his first rodeo. He's done this before.

He knows things he didn't know eight years ago when he first came into the Oval Office. He knows how the good levers of power work. He knows where the bodies are buried. He's fundamentally more ready for this job than he was eight years ago. And I think it shows.

All right. Go get him. Mark Thiessen, thanks for writing the breaking news with us and putting it all in perspective. Have a great weekend. You too, take care.

Josh Crash Howard at the bottom of the hour. Your call is next: 1-866-408-7669. The Cash Patel hearing has started. We'll bring you the latest. The first 100 days continuing confirmation coverage.

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I'm just watching one of the opening statements on Cash Patel. And I think there's a couple of things that are going to happen that I predicted. The hard thing with RFK when he was testifying is his voice. And it's such a struggle for him to get his voice out. You look at the nonverbal cues, it looks like he's getting nervous.

I don't think he's getting nervous. I actually think just the opposite. But With Tulsi Gabbard, they're going to go after her directly, but she number one, it's a woman. I hate to tell you, I don't mean to be sexist. I think people go easier on women.

Number one, number two, is she's so composed, so strong, so smart. I think she's going to wow at this event. What Pete did was so interesting during his, they were attacking him personally, accusing him of things that didn't happen. Personally, they weren't saying, You don't understand the size of the Navy fleet, you don't understand our manufacturing base. They were just going after and saying, What happened with this relationship?

What happened with that? But he looked comfortable. Cash Patel is coming out firing. And if these people want to go after him and say these are trumped up investigations when he unwound what was happening at the Mueller report, when he was out unwound what happened with the impeachment that Nancy Pelosi trumpeted from we didn't know him that well then, President Zelensky in Ukraine, When we go after 2020, he's ready to go. He's got these facts.

Now, he did put together the January 6th choir, which the president would play at his events.

So he's going to have to answer for that. I mean, I'm not a January 6th. There's nothing good about it. It wasn't as bad as you thought. I don't feel that way.

But that's what they're going to focus on. And in the end of the day, I think he's going to win over any Republicans that are thinking to themselves, I'm not too sure he's the right guy. I think it's going to be fine. We are looking also at the latest on the investigation with the American Airlines flight and the Black Hawk crash. And now the American Airlines spokespeople are beginning to understand that they were actually just in the line of flight and they didn't do anything.

And one of the questions I just read to paraphrase was: We don't know why the black hawk came into our flight path.

So That's where I think this is heading. I don't think you can default American Airlines at all. And and I think this might end up somewhere in the air traffic booth. I think it also might end up with the Black Hawk.

Someone was telling me, to be simplistic, that they fly a helicopter. And what you do in the helicopter, you're always looking down. You know, and what you do is usually have officers in the back looking left and right.

Well, you only had one in the back. And they were looking at the other side. They look at the other side, they would have seen the plane. Would it have been enough to move? I'm not sure.

But it's freaked people out because all these lawmakers and all these Washington, D.C. residents, they all fly in there. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Joe. American Eagle Flight 5342.

operated by PSA Airlines. traveling from Wichita, Kansas to Reagan National Airport was involved in an accident just before. 9 p.m. local time. On final approach.

into Reagan National. They collided with a military aircraft on an otherwise normal approach. And at this time, we don't know why the military aircraft came into the path. uh the P S Aircraft So they're just still trying to find that out. And the American Airlines just says: look, I don't know really what our guys could have done.

But we know sixty plus are dead. everybody's considered no one survived the crash that just rocked the country. Also, the figure skating community, sadly, they just completed their national championships from Wichita. Many stay an extra few days for a special camp for the elite athletes, including two Russian champions And uh they passed away in this flight. Josh Krashauer joins us now, Fox News Radio political analyst, editor-in-chief of the Jewish Insider.

Josh, I guess the airlines the airport is still closed for another half hour, but nothing's normal, it seems, right? Yeah, I live right by National Airport, Brian, and it's was shocking to hear the news last night. Kind of the footage of of the crash that that was taken, I believe, by the Kennedy Center. A webcam was just shocking and and expected the worst. And as we heard this morning, that we're now in a Not in a rescue operation anymore, but a recovery operation.

So it is, it is a, I mean, the next question obviously is going to be: how could this happen? This is the first. major commercial airline aircraft in the United States since 2009. And President Trump is going to be speaking in a little bit. But there's going to be a lot of questions in the coming days on how something this tragic and this preventable could have happened.

So Cash Patel is right now testifying. He's getting some tough questions from Dick Durbin, who believes, again, like every Democrat, January 6th is the only time there was ever crime in this country.

So he's focusing on that, the pardon power, and Cash Patel is going right back at him and saying, what about Joe Biden's pardon?

So there'll be some sparring there. If Cash Patel doesn't lose any Republicans, he'll get through. RFK yesterday, he's got round two today.

So I think the one thing that's underlined now after seeing this tragedy, we got to get these people confirmed. OMB has no director. Sean Duffy could have been on last week. He's only been on 24 hours. Thankfully, he could make a speech to Pentagon.

Secretary Pete Hagsett, just two days ago, he could have been voted on last week. We don't know why Doug Bergham is not voted on today. I hope so. Pam Bondi, we're just waiting for a vote. What is the advantage to America for this slowdown?

Yeah, well look, I mean demo the the the most controversial nominees, I would put Gabbard, R. F. K. Jr. and uh uh cash patel although i think he's he's gonna fairly comfortably with most Republican I think all Republicans probably uh Supporting him, or most of the Republicans in the Senate.

But yeah, I mean, there's a lot of controversies that we're hearing right now. I'm watching, I have three, this is one of those days where you need the red zone to follow all the congressional hearings and the. breaking news from from from the White House and all the agencies. But no, I mean it it it it's it actually was sort of remarkable. Sean Duffy at Transportation was literally sworn in hours before the crash and was able, I mean, literally didn't even have a chance to fully get get settled before the having to go in in front of the cameras and get briefed on all the all all the the the the the the the breaking news and just that the the the Um you know, the crisis at hand.

So look, I think that there will be an imperative the FAA doesn't have an administrator. I think that's going to be a big question also, that having someone in these key positions, key agencies regarding airline safety and transportation are going to be crucial as we learn more about this accident.

So some of the RFK stuff, I hope he gets through. Here's Bernie Sanders, who was, you know, compared to some others, was relatively fair, but this got bizarre, Cut 19. And yet your organization is making money. Selling a child's product. To parents for 26 bucks, which casts fundamental doubt on the usefulness of vaccines.

Can you tell us now? that you will now that you are Pro-vaccine, that you're going to have your organization take these products off the market. Senator, I have no power over that organization. I'm not part of it. I resigned from the board.

That was just a few months ago. You founded that. You certainly have power. You can make that law. Are you supportive of this?

I've had nothing to do with these. Are you supportive of these onesies? I'm supportive of access. Are you supportive of these onesies? These are some of the questions I never thought I'd hear.

Okay, hold on. Yeah, I got a kick out of that. Look, this is the Democrats don't know how to really, I mean, this is an example of how Democrats have really struggled in the opposition in the first week of the Trump administration. There's a lot of things you could go after RFK Jr. with.

I actually was sort of struck by Elizabeth Warren's questioning. She's supposed to be this really aggressive prosecutor. There's obviously a lot of fodder against RFK Jr., and she was trying to make the insinuation that he was making money off of his activism. If anything, you know, the substance is what's, I think, much more damaging. But with Elizabeth Warren, everyone, she thinks everyone is bought off, I guess.

And that's pretty much her M.O.

So she's not able to adjust her playbook when it comes to a different type of nominee. No, I mean, look, I think, look, the organization that Sanders is talking about has taken a lot of very controversial positions, and Republicans have advocated against that organization for many, many years.

So there's a lot of fodder there. But focus on a onesie, you know, it got me, I cracked up a little bit when I heard. That, but there is a lot of substance, but Democrats didn't, you know, by and large, there are a few senators I thought that had some credible lines of questioning, but they didn't take advantage of the opportunity.

So you got the 100 days, and the president's pace is just unbelievable. He also blasted. Jay Powell for not cutting interest rates, so he doesn't mind working the refs. It didn't work this time, but maybe it'll work next time. Says you guys jacked up inflation.

You left me with it. You and Joe Biden.

So this is typical Donald Trump. And I actually kind of like it. He also said, walk back, the federal workers freeze. He's no longer going to do any hiring, but they're not going to freeze all programs. Your thoughts about that?

I thought that could have been rolled out better, but they'll re-queue it up when they get an OMB director. Yeah, look, I The privileges that many in the federal government have benefited from, especially since the pandemic, where there's been pretty Very generous remote work policies. You know, these agencies, many of them have gotten very bloated. You know, they really took a took a real, they didn't use a scalpel to deal with this situation. I don't know if you can deal with the federal government and the bureaucracy with a scalpel, but they probably overreached to the extent they're getting a lot of litigation.

And there's a little bit of walk back. I think the more significant walk back was the other directive, executive order, pairing back, temporarily at least, pausing the spending for certain programs. And that got, it sounds like it got walked back yesterday. But, you know, I think there's a, you know, when you win a man, when you win a big election, when you have a lot of political capital, the big question is always, do you spend it right away? Or do you kind of wait till you get your confirmation, wait till you get your cabinet secretaries in, wait till you get everyone in place until you have a game plan and then kind of.

have have a more concerted playbook. I think they've done a lot of things right, uh, and I think they've been much more organized than they were than Trump was in the first term. But that was an example where I think they overplayed their hand. It was sort of reminiscent of the The ban, the Muslim ban of the first term that ended up getting pushed back on. And I think the big question, there are a lot of Trump changed the Republican Party in that, you know, there were a lot of Republicans who did want to tackle federal spending have been all about balanced budgets and cutting waste and some of these programs.

But there are people that benefit from them. And I think they heard, I talked to some Republican lawmakers who were getting an earful from their constituents, people who voted for Donald Trump, about the future of some of these programs and the future of some of the spending that was supposed to be coming in.

So that got walked back. That was a pretty quick walk back. And I think Trump needs to be very wary about how much political capital he spends. He certainly has it, but if he spends it to Fast and alienate some people in his own party, that's not a good recipe for future success.

So look at the border crossings. ICE enforcement as of Wednesday, 1,016 arrests, 814 detainers lodged. The border encounters in seven days. The last seven days of Biden, 20,860. The last seven days with Trump, 7,000.

Daly, Daly was one thousand forty one with Biden is two thousand eight hundred and sixty nine. The crossings at the Del Rio sector down to sixty. Biden had it up to four th there was up to four thousand. I mean, do you believe this is happening? Yeah, look, I mean, I think one of the most powerful parts about these executive orders and the raids that are taking place is they're just sending a message.

I mean, Biden's message in the first months of his administration in 2021 was the border is open and we're rolling back all the Trump policies. The message from Trump is that we're enforcing the law and we're deporting illegal immigrants. And he's showing a sign of force and strength. With these moves early on. Look, I think it's going to send a very strong message.

Even if there's going to be litigation, all the lawyers are going to be getting involved. But ultimately, the policy and the focus of this first week is really going to be what sticks. And I think you're not going to see the kind of numbers you saw in that first year of the Biden administration.

So when you look at the Democrats and how they're going to push back, they thought that they had this big victory with the pause on spending, which, unless it's getting individual payments, and when they reversed it, they said, now we're beginning to get our feet. What do you think?

Well I don't think, look, the first vote that the Senate took was the Wake and Riley Act. And how many Democrats voted with Donald Trump? 12 Democrats, many of them from swing states that realize the politics on the issue of immigration are squarely in Donald Trump's corner. That more voters, and including a lot of Democrats, want tougher enforcement. They don't think the previous administration was serious about it.

And they actually are not. The only upside to the aggressive actions that Trump is taking. DEI, the transgender executive orders. I mean, you look at the New York Times did a poll last week. These are both like 80-20 issues, especially on the trans activism front.

Those are issues that Democrats, frankly, have not even really engaged in because I think they realize how important of an issue that was to Trump's success in the last election. Like I said, I think where things get a little dicey, where he may have gone a little too far, is on, you know, the. These wide-ranging spending cuts or spending pauses that affect a lot of programs that Republicans and a lot of voters across the country benefit from. And instead of using the scalpel and focusing on DEI or, well, some of the more wasteful programs by going so big, and the wording of that order was so vague that it really. scared a lot of Republicans, and I think the White House heard it loud and clear, and they walked it back pretty soon thereafter.

And I think you can't afford to make those kind of mistakes when you do have the opportunity to go on offense on a whole lot of other issues. Uh I hear you. Here's uh Chuck Schumer, Cut 29. We saw what happens when Americans fight back. against disastrous policies.

Americans made their voices heard. Donald Trump rescinded the OMB order.

Now he should rescind the nomination of Russell Vogt. When the Trump administration announced This awful directive on Monday night. We knew immediately it was short-sighted, disastrous, cruel, and dumb.

Uh your thoughts? Look, this is what they're. I mean, I think Democrats at least are honing in on this issue because they were totally messageless for the first week. And they didn't really know what to say. They were all over the map.

John Fetterman was in one space, and you had people like Chris Murphy and Elizabeth Warren in another direction. At least this is one thing that pretty much unites the party, and they think that it was a little overreach. But look, if that look, the Trump already walked back the order, they're going to be moving on. There are going to be a lot of other executive orders. I mean, I think that two more came out yesterday focused on school choice and fighting anti-Semitism on campuses.

Those are also very popular issues where Democrats are finding themselves also on the defensive.

So, I mean, there's a lot of, I mean, one of the, I think. The brilliant uh Attributes of the first week politically is that they've really been prepared and they've been coming fast and furious.

So, this is one thing that the Democrats are able to hone in on. But there are a lot of other things Trump has been doing, namely on border security, but a whole lot of other executive orders that Democrats have been playing defense on. They really haven't been able to catch up. Republicans are operating at social media speed. Democrats are kind of operating at like legacy media speed.

Yeah, they had an emergency meeting after Trump. They go tomorrow. Emergency meeting. You have an emergency meeting that night. But the some good news.

Israel. Israel says three Israelis and five Thai hostages are to be released over in Gaza.

So that phase one is continuing. What are you hearing about the chan and by the way, they had to give up I'm trying to think how many hostages over a hundred prisoners. In order to get them back, your thoughts about this. Yeah, I mean, this is just this is people don't realize this first phase is going to take over a month, like for this process to really play itself out. And there's still Steve Witkoff, Trump's envoy to the region, is actually in the Middle East and trying to make sure that this deal goes through.

Now, if you saw some of the images and the footage of the hostages being released, they were totally. You know, tormented in their final hours and minutes outside of Gaza, where there were terrorists screaming at them and yelling at them and scaring them. I mean, this is real insight on the kind of people that Israel has to deal with on their border. And it also created some hiccups in the process because it was against what was negotiated. But look, I mean, I think it's going to be very difficult to get to the second and third phase, given some of the difficult details on both, but for Israel to kind of allow Hamas to have some kind of operational control without being able to defend, you know, without being able to have full military operational.

Hamas cannot get back. You heard Michael Waltz. Hamas cannot go back in power.

So that's just a non-starter. There's no way. Even though right now they are the number one power there, they're taking credit for the aid that's coming in. They're escorting with a show of force in their camouflage outfits. They're escorting the prisoners forward like they haven't lost 17,000 in battle.

Yeah. I mean, it's kind of shocking. And I think Mike Waltz's comments are a reminder that, you know, the end goal cannot be Hamas staying in power. The worry is that, like, if you like to look at the detail, I mean, it's going to be hard to get to those second and third phases without another you know, without having some military defense against Hamas reestablishing itself. All right, Josh, thanks so much.

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Thanks for being here, everybody. It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. What a horrific day. Last night, 9 o'clock, we hear about a plane crash. It was between an American Airline 60, it was a regional jet.

uh and a uh black hawk. And now we find out it was the worst In-flight disaster in American history. And we find out everybody passed away. Sadly, that was pretty much inevitable when you heard about it. And then we're trying to find out between the air traffic controller, the black hawk hitting the jetliner.

Bottom line is, it's a tragedy all the way around. 24 hours into the job, Sean Duffy, Transportation Secretary, has got to investigate it. In the morning, he's got to explain it. It's a Black Hawk military jet from Fort Belavore. 24 hours, 48 hours into the job.

Secretary of Defense Pete Haythett has got to investigate it. He's got to explain it. He put out a tape. Sean Duffy had a press conference. President of the United States put out a truth social post saying this was totally avoidable.

There's a lot of things, a lot of moving parts. I am not smart enough to figure it out.

Well, everybody else on the scene has not. But I will say this. I'm wondering if it goes back to air traffic controllers being overworked. I'm also wondering about the communication. Because we have it, and it says the Black Hawk, the Pilot who said, You know, you have an airliner there, in layman's terms.

And he says, Yeah, do you see it? He says, Yes.

So military people are writing me. He said, Yeah, all that could be true, but he could have been looking at the wrong airline.

So, if you have four people on the Blackhawk, they say there's a person in every window, and you see you have eyes on everything. There was only one in the back. And most people wrote me, a guy could bet you was on the other side in which he plowed into the jet. Kevin O'Leary is going to be with us this hour. Not only is he a successful businessman, he's right in the thick of things in politics, fresh off a trip to Mar-a-Lago, one of the people putting together a team to buy TikTok, and we thoroughly appreciate that.

Also, I want to get his take on Monday's big story, and that's the crash of the AI tech stocks because of what China in deep seek was able to pioneer. Upon further review, David Sachs says. Um David Sachs says. Who's now head of AI and cryptocurrency, former co-founder of PayPal, as well as a myriad of other major billion-dollar projects, says, I think they st uh Chap GPT says, I'm pretty sure they stole our stuff.

So, should we expect that from China? Yeah. Was it open? Yes. But experts say they took way too much.

So we are looking at all those things. I'm not going to do the investigation in real time. Let me also tell you what other balls are in the air. Cash Patel is off to a pretty good start as he tries to become the FBI. Director, and it's a six-year term.

But Donald Trump, who got Christopher Wray in after Robert Mueller went out and he fired James Comey, who replaced Robert Mueller, he said Christopher Wray's got to go.

So Cash Patel will take over, I think. He's off to a strong start. He's got Grassley's approval clearly, especially if you listen to the Queen. He told me that this morning. What am I thinking?

And Senator Cornyn also, two law and order guys, traditional Republicans, conservative Republicans. And of course, Senator Whitehouse just goes and gives a bunch of speeches, does some polls from his book and says how inaccurate and unqualified he is. And when he goes to answer and qualify, he says, don't take time away from me. For the life of me. Why are you a senator and why can't you ask a question?

If you're giving a speech, you can do that any time on the floor of the Senate. But this is your chance to listen, many of which are lawyers, and be able to listen and ping pong back and forth with somebody that you're convinced is not worthy.

So we'll bring you some of that. We'll also bring you some. Tulsi Gabbert is also beginning to testify. Last time I saw, Tulsi Gabbard was giving her opening statements.

Now, we also find out within this hour, the President of the United States will think about the mid-air crash that happened in the Potomac at the busiest airport in the country, Ronald Reagan Airport, which.

So many people can relate to, and sadly, this is going to devastate the U.S. figure skating community. They're fresh off the national championships in Utah, excuse me, in Wichita, Kansas. And they're heading there in a relatively new route, I understand. They now only a year ago, American Airlines started flying there.

So, they fly into Reagan, and the plane gets slammed, and everyone passes away. But it wiped out a lot of great families, you figure skating championship families, as well as a Russian pair.

So, the championship ended on the 25th for the elite skaters. They stuck around for a camp into the 28th. They hop on that plane, and sadly, they lose their life.

So, that is how we started the day. And now, we have all the moving parts from yesterday. Here's a little of what we can tell you happened. Cut one. We're now at a point where we are switching from a rescue operation to a recovery operation.

At this point, we don't believe there are any survivors from this accident. And we have recovered twenty-seven people from the plane and one from the helicopter.

So You know, it's amazing now. They're getting closer and closer to a full recovery because I think where they landed, where the crash happened, and where they fell to the ground, seven feet of water.

So, and it is 35-degree water. They say you can't last more than 15 minutes because of hypothermia.

So, we'll keep you up to date on that. We'll see what the president has to say. He also issued executive orders yesterday, everything from school choice to condemning college campus, anti-Semitism. On college campuses, it's very hard for people to keep up. And I think, ladies and gentlemen, that's the point.

So, here's a little cash patel. He was taking these questions from Lindsay Graham. And Lindsey Graham brought up the fact that he was ahead of the game, like Devin Unez, with Devin Unes, on what was really going on in the Russian investigation. Look, I talked to Republicans who didn't know Donald Trump too well in 2016, 2017 after he won. They did not know for sure that he was not collaborating with Russia.

They knew that things didn't line up, but that the momentum got Robert Mueller. That devastated devastated the country, that thorough investigation. Here's Cache Patel on Crossfire Hurricane. That was the name of the FBI operation, which was an embarrassment to this nation. Is it fair to say that the people in charge of investigating Uh crossfire hurricane hated Trump's guts.

Well, you don't have to take my word for it. That statement, along with the statements from the sources of the case. Are those days over in the FBI, you hope?

Well, if they're not, they will be.

Okay, good. I mean, you saw all these guys, and they all got CNN and MSNBC contracts after. And James Comey wrote a book and sanctimonious to James Comey. I hope now we look back and realize this egomaniac was out of control.

So, what Donald Trump has done, and you're seeing in his performance, He had good people last time. They knew what they were doing, but they didn't really understand what he was doing. And they didn't really trust him. General Milly, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Mattis, Secretary of Defense.

Kelly comes in to replace Reines Priebus. And Trump never really, and I like Reines, but never really forgot that Reines told him to drop out after the Access Hollywood tape went out.

So there was some imminent distrust, along with a massive investigation that not only stopped him from doing what he wanted to do as a new president, investigated his family, Don Jr., as well as Jared. Jared, in his book, writes who thought he was going to go to jail. And it all really started the FBI. It started with Hillary Clinton, picked up by the FBI, and then he did their dirty work. But not all the FBI.

The 35,000, almost all hardworking people that don't get paid enough or get enough credit, but the ones on the seventh floor in Washington DC were the issue.

So, Dick Durbin obviously does not like Cash Patel. How do I know? I don't know. You make the call. Was President Donald Trump wrong to give blanket clemency to the January sixth defendants?

Thank you, Ranking Member. A couple of things on that. One, the power of the presidential party is just that, the president. Alignment, I concede he has the authority. I'm asking, was he wrong to do it?

And as we discussed in our private meeting, Senator, I have always rejected any violence against law enforcement, and I have including in that group specifically addressed any violence against law enforcement on January 6th. And I do not agree with the commutation of any sentence of any individual who committed violence against law enforcement.

So I thought that was significant because it goes against what Trump did.

So Cash is as loyal as it gets, but I'm sure he cleared that with the President. He's right. But I would also bring up this. Hey, Senator Durbin, were you upset with the 4,000 police officers that were assaulted in New York City? I never heard you speak out when you saw a 17- and 19-year-old illegal alien kick the crap along with eight others out of two police officers on New Year's Eve last year.

Did you speak out, Senator? Do you speak out anytime police were beat up in 2020 with the George Floyd riots? I don't remember you speaking out, Senator. Were you? See, January 6th is a terrible day.

No one questions that. But that's not when crime started and ended. But that's what you had the FBI focused on, didn't you, for the next two years? I hope Cash is smarter than me. I hope he starts.

Digging in on that. Because The senator is going to be forced, and outside Adam Schiff, who's directly involved, I think. They're going to be forced to defend something that's indefensible, and that is a blatant partnership and attack on a previous administration while hiding the laptop for the next administration that would have revealed the corruption of the Biden family. We're going to take a short time out. Come back with Kevin O'Leary, discuss all this, the latest in the investigation, the latest on the testimony, the latest on the AI race.

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So glad you're here. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Guantanamo has long been a place for migrants.

In fact, in the 90s, tens of thousands of Haitian and Cuban migrants staged there as part of a crisis. We have an even bigger crisis on our hands right now. It was mentioned: 7,500 violent illegals have been captured by ICE in the last nine days. God bless them. Where do you move them?

I'll tell you what, no one's going to be waiting on the Defense Department. We're going to lean forward. We've made sure that we staging on the border to protect it. That we've got gray tails, which are known as military aircraft, to help mass deportations. And Guantanamo Bay, Jesse, is a perfect spot.

And that was Secretary of Defense Pete Hakeseth last night doing his first series of interviews. Will Kane three hours later, four hours later, Jesse Waters talking about taking the illegal immigrants, criminals that have been shipped out. Countries won't take them back, or we don't trust they can hold on to them over to Gitmo where there's 30,000 beds. Bottom line, the speed in which things are happening, let alone things that are uncontrollable, like the mid-air crash, the worst in our history that took place last night at 9 o'clock, show what's going on in Washington and around the country. Kevin O'Leary is keeping up with it all.

If he's not on air, he's doing business, and he's back with us right now in the studio. And we're seeing Kevin, the President of the United States, addressing the tragedy that happened last night. And he did put out a truth socialist statement. Unbelievable. How often do you come to Washington and use that airport?

A lot.

So I know that approach. And it's heavily populated. I'm wondering, and I'm speculating when I say this, perhaps the pilot steered the plane into the river hoping it would be an outcome like we had in New York years ago. Unfortunately, that didn't happen.

So I've speculated a lot of those people drowned. Yeah. Well, I think he got smashed by a Blackhawk, so I don't know if you can survive that.

So that would be the key. A lot of people say it looks like the American airline was just going into land from Wichita and they had no choice. They got hit, and were they able to come up with Were they able to come up with some type of information on why the Black Op kept going? But we're seeing this massive investigation and the president reacting in real time. But, Kevin, My goodness.

You got to be able to put your people in place. We've got to come up with a better system. We're going through this with a slow mode. Can you imagine having a business and taking months to put your offices in place? That's the way the government's running now with these confirmations and nominations.

Yeah, you know, it's too bad that we in modern times, remember when the Constitution was written, it was only horseback between states.

So you had to give time for the administration to change and the word get out across the nation. Today we don't have that problem. And we leave administrations in place for weeks, making crazy things happen, good and bad. We have an election. You should immediately accelerate the implementation of the new administration, including the president.

So you get control of these things faster. And I think we're seeing a lot of the damage that was done in this conversion, this transition. This is a horrific outcome, though. It's so sad. You know, the plane's landing at that speed, probably like under 200 miles an hour.

If it hit land, it might have landed. I don't know. I'm speculating. I think people might have survived. I mean, we because we did just see the survival situation over in Brazil a short time ago, which we hadn't seen in a while.

Here's Sean Duffy addressing the crash. We'll pull back some from the President who's now talking cut four. I don't want to say too much on the communication between the helicopter and the tower and the airline and the tower, but I will say this, there was communication. Uh it was um I would say standard communication.

So there was not a breakdown, if that's your question, in communication between the military helicopter and the American airline flight. There was there was communication between the aircraft and the tower. And the way and it was communication with the Blackhawk. And the Blackhawk said, Can you see? They said, Can you see the plane?

He said, Yes. And I've had a general right mid the side of that was the wrong plane and said, Yeah, I was looking at a different plane. Yeah. I mean, it's so busy there. Anybody that's landed there, I mean, it's plus, it was a you know, it was a clear night.

And uh just a horrible tragedy. But this'll wake up the whole system. Um hopefully it'll be avoided. Military operations so close to civilian airports, mm. It also makes you speculate about drone technology, how we're going to have to integrate every little drone flying around into the FAA's system.

So we know where they are. That's going to be a whole new technology because drones are definitely in our future, whether they be for security or delivery of drugs or whatever they're going to do. Same problem. You don't want Vehicles hitting each other. Right.

And the other thing is with the drones, it hit one of those planes that we use to put out fires that we borrowed from Canada, and a drone hit it and disabled it for two weeks in California while the wildfires were still burning. You can put a turkey through the engine, but not a drone. Kevin O'Leary here. Kevin, we see a businessman in motion. And he's three hundred and fifty as of this morning.

Elective executive actions, executive motions. Your thought? Yeah, well, he understands. I mean, Trump's this is the second time around, this is Trump two point zero.

So he knows he's got 24 months before he probably loses his majority mandate in the midterms. And that just generally happens to any administration. You lose a few seats. That's just what happens.

So he knows he's. Pretty good for the next 24 months.

So, why not get it all done if you're really a legacy president now? This is a legacy opportunity for him. We had lots of issues in the first mandate. He got a majority mandate coming into the second, and now he wants to deliver. And I think he's doing it.

He's really focusing on everything he campaigned on. He's not screwing around. And I think that's what people like about Trump 2.0. See, it was interesting. He sat there with Karen Bass, and I thought about you.

the mayor of Los Angeles. And he's sitting there and he says, These people want to get back in their house. He goes, Yes, we've got to keep them safe. He goes, They're safe. Let them back in their house.

Let them make their own decisions. They want to start working on their property. They want to start getting dumpsters in. They want to start designing things. He goes, yes, we're in a matter of doing that.

We'll get some inspectors. He goes, no, let's do it now. The business aspect of Trump, get it done now, that Musk is bringing his attitude of, why don't we fix this? Why can't this be done? He's doing it with Doge in real time.

And this president's doing it with executive actions, executive orders. Watch me, try to catch me. And the same thing with get things done attitude over in California. And we're just not seeing that happen. In Los Angeles, they voted on politicians that have never done anything like you've done in business before.

And it's showing. Yeah, California's a special situation because if you look think look at what's occurred to that state with all the business leaving based on very anti-business policy, well it caught up with them.

So I think Gavin Newsome and and Mayor Bass They're under the pressure, Cooker.

Now, this probably really hurts their political opportunities down the road. And I say for Newsom, because I was very critical of him and still am, but. This is his Giuliani moment. You remember when 9-11 hit, and nobody knew who Giuliani was anywhere around the world? I know he's had issues lately, but at that time, he stepped up.

He made it known to everybody around the world that this catastrophe was going to get fixed in record time, which is what he did. And I think this is an opportunity for Newsom to step up, and either he'll do it or he won't, because I think the people of California are pretty unhappy. Right now, he's pretty much saying it's really not my problem.

Well, that's not the right answer. I don't think so. Kevin's going to stick around. We've got to talk about TikTok and also what happened with the market on Monday. And we'll bring back some of the president's remarks after the horrific plane crash last night.

So glad you're here. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. The release of Deep Seek. AI from A Chinese company should be a wake-up call for our industries that we need to be laser-focused on competing to win, because we have the greatest scientists in the world, even Chinese leadership told me that.

They said, you have the most brilliant scientists in the world and Seattle and various places. But uh Silicon Valley, they said There's nobody like those people. That was the President of the United States talking about Monday when the market dropped and DeepSeek comes out with an AI product that they said was better than OpenAI and everything Google and Gemini put out. Kevin O'Leary, my guest. Kevin, what has happened since we found out that DeepSee came in so under budget and so impressive?

They would clearly crash the market.

Well, like happens so much in China, there's no IP protection, and so this is ripped off code from OpenAI. But the question about the $6 million capex to build this, I called BS on it. Most likely what happened, 5,000 to 6,000 NVIDIA cards out of Singapore. I'm speculating here. But it was subsidized by the CCP.

They built this thing to compete, but they also built it to scrape data. If you install that and read the agreement, they're scraping your emails. And so Italy, rumored just a couple hours ago, has banned it already. This is probably an attempt when there's a 50-50 chance of TikTok being Put down and go dark in 60 days. These are lifeboats for the Chinese that want to keep scraping American data because they know the ultimate war is AI eventually and propaganda.

And so this tool, if you actually query it, is very, very pro-China, as you'd expect. And all of that's come to the light in the last 24 hours. But the idea that they somehow built a $6 million engine that costs billions to make is total crap. And the stealing, this is open technology, but not everything was open, but they took more than they possibly said they did. And number two, NVIDIA, they did use NVIDIA chips, but they used, I guess, the cheaper NVIDIA chips.

Supposedly, it's illegal for them to have them. And so, you know, they found a hole in AI. They did the black market trade on these things. Who knows how they got them? But the point is, we're in a war on AI with China, and we better win, because it matters for defense, national security, just advancement of productivity in every 11 sectors.

The American economy. This is serious stuff, and the race is on. And I think we've got to support it, which means we need a lot more data centers all over the United States and wherever else we can put them. They're building them in Finland, off hydro and off nuclear power, up in Alberta, North Dakota, West Virginia. We've got to get the permits going here.

We've got to have these things built ASAP.

So, Kevin, that leads to the bigger story in TikTok. Everyone's talking about, well, it's an algorithm. Do you want China to have your data? That's, yeah, that's important. But the other thing is, do you want China to control your news?

That's why TikTok's got to be sold. And I think Trump realizes that. Do you? Oh, 100%. But you got to realize something, and people have ignored this about the structure of Bike Dance itself.

Bike Dance is a wildly successful company of which TikTok. In the U.S., it is nothing. It's like 8.9% of revenue.

So they can afford to turn it off in the U.S. It's not going to change the market cap of ByteDance at all. ByteDance is probably going to make $4 billion in free cash flow this quarter. I mean, it's got a lot of other businesses there. And so you've got to appeal to the shareholders of ByteDance, including some American shareholders, but the founders themselves have 25% and say, look, if you want to keep it lit up in the United States, we're going to have to at least follow the order of Congress and the rules 9 to 0 from the Supreme Court about how we rebuild a U.S.

version of it. And I think it could be a really interesting opportunity for cooperation between these two competing nations to solve for this, because TikTok's on 170 million Americans' phones, and my guys, 6.5 million American businesses. I call them the shark tankers. They're all companies, one to three million in sales. They use it.

And do you want all that business to go to Facebook and Instagram, then there's no competition. I'd rather keep it lit up on a compliant basis.

So I've got the only offer with Frank McCourt. Only us, the two of us, have an offer in front of the the the bankers of Byte Dance. All the rest is speculation. There's lots of other guys talking about buying it, but we have something structural to work with.

So but do you have a partner? No, do you have a partner? Do you have somebody that's looking a deal? In our case, in the courts case in O'Leary, we have Guggenheim.

So, in terms of raising capital, debt, and equity, we can do that. But we also have to partner with Oracle. That's where the servers are. And everybody's talking to everybody else. If you made the assumption that every single buying group that's announced their interest I've talked to all of them.

They were all talking together because we all have the same problem, the Supreme Court order. That's a problem. That thing says specifically, and Cotton himself, I've spoken to all these, I've gone all over the hill for the last month on TikTok. It's clear. We cannot use the Chinese code.

We have to come up with something else with an oversight element to it from DOD or DOJ or whoever it's going to be that gets assigned monitoring social media. And the bigger problem with social media, the litigation. The amount of litigation the state, you know, attorneys, state attorneys, or just parents' groups, or sovereign countries. They don't like the fact that you have data that you don't own that you're trading and making a profit on. We've got to change the whole metric.

Well, that's true. I mean, you have Facebook that just paid $25 million to Trump for banning them. For me, it's like, why buy all that litigation? Why not come right out of the gates on the new TikTok and say, guys, you own your own data. We're like a telco.

You can move your telephone number around. We solved that problem in the early 90s with the Telco Act. We said, okay, telco companies don't own your personal phone number.

So why should social media companies own your data? You own your data. That'll be the new TikTok 2.0. McCourt wrote a book about it. That's exactly what he did.

He wants to give you control of your own. Yeah, that's why I joined Frank's bid because he makes a lot of sense. And also, I don't want to buy all this litigation. Like, who wants to get sued for billions of dollars every month? It's enough with that.

It's over. We have to change the metric by which social media works. Absolutely.

But I think that there's not one person clear-eyed who thinks that it does not have to be sold within 30 days. I also worry, as a country, you just can't blow off laws. You don't want. And the president doesn't want to start this way. It was out of his hands.

He could even say, hey, I know you 16 to 18 to 20-year-olds use TikTok. It was done before I got here. I had to sell it. The Supreme Court spoke. But I don't think Trump is going to try and reverse the 9-0 decision of the Supreme Court, or is he going to try and get Congress to modify the law they passed on a bipartisan basis?

We're going to have to live with those rules. The question is: can McCourt and I solve this for the shareholders of bike dance? Otherwise, they'll just turn it off because they don't really, it's not going to really affect them financially.

So, the other thing I want to talk to you is about real quick: we have one minute: energy.

So, you always talk about nuclear. You talked about different things that you wanted to do. You know that this country now wants to turn on the spigots, but oil and gas doesn't. They like it at $70 a barrel.

So, they'll drill, but they don't want to drill too much and flood the market. But on natural gas, is that a different story that's got Kevin O'Leary interested? Yeah, it is, because I'll tell you the states that have.

Sort of natural gas that's want to call it orphaned is a good word. It's not connected to anything. North Dakota, West Virginia and the province of Alberta have billions and billions of cubic meters of stranded gas.

So if we can get turbines there, these GE turbines that they just got five hundred million dollar or billion dollars getting invested in them. Dual-cycle turbines are very clean, very green, and they produce electricity, and we need those. And so I'm looking for those three locations: West Virginia, North Dakota, and Alberta, Canada, for the next projects for data centers. That's what I'm working on. You realize you have an interior secretary from North Dakota who is all ears when it comes to that and knows the tech center.

Doug Bergham, I know him very well. I work for him now. I run the venture fund for the state of North Dakota. He is the best. Kevin O'Leary, thanks so much for your quality time.

Take care. I look forward to finding out what those five deals that were lighting up your phones were all about in a moment. Brian Kilmichel. We'll be back with Donald Trump and J.D. Vance's comments about that horrible mid-air crash.

You're with Brian Kilmeade. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmead. I speak to you this morning in an hour of anguish. For a nation just Before 9 p.m.

last night, an American Airlines regional jet carrying 60 passengers and four crew collided with an Army Blackhawk helicopter carrying three military service members over the Potomac River in Washington, D.C.

Well on final approach to Reagan National Airport. Both aircraft crashed instantly and were immediately submerged into the icy waters of the Potomac. Real tragedy. The massive search and rescue mission was underway throughout the night, leveraging every asset at our disposal. And I have to say, the local, state, federal, military, including the United States Coast Guard in particular, they've done a phenomenal job.

So quick, so fast. It was. Mobilized immediately. The work has now shifted to a recovery. Mission, sadly, there are no survivors.

So that was President Trump addressing directly what happened last night. And we're not used to this. We're not used to somebody so engaged who knows every detail of what's going on. We're issuing executive orders while reordering the governments, freezing spending, picking up illegal immigrants, sending them to Gitmo. And now he's there taking questions in a press conference after this horrific tragedy, and most of the questions are on this.

And he but the President says this. Since the 1980s, he's been in helicopters. He had most of his investments in Atlantic City, and he would do his work in New York City, and he would hop on his chopper and go down. And he nearly went down in a helicopter famously. They had a helicopter accident, but thankfully he's okay, obviously, survived it.

So he knows the dangers of helicopters, doesn't take it for granted. Then he spends his whole life on private jets. He had his own airline itself. And if you, I've been on his jet before, before he was president, before he was a politician, guy knows how to work this thing. Spends time in the cockpit, makes purchases, buys things, sells them.

Air Force One designs him.

So yeah, he's not a pilot. And he's not an aviation expert. But he's got 50 years of practical experience, and he says, I don't know why these guys are on the same level, and I don't know why the Blackhawk did not see the plane.

So, many people would never speculate on an accident before it concluded. I'm not going to make any conclusions. That's the president's style. He says, I've seen enough. I've got enough.

That's where he sees it. And he also thinks DEI played a role. I'm not sure it did. But I'm not sure it didn't, but I just don't know any details about it. I've been on the air for three hours looking at the testimony as they're having Tulsi Gabbard as well as Cash Patel, very compelling.

RFK shortly will start to, and then you're following this investigation on top of all that. Philip, you're listening on WDBO. Hey, Philip. Hey, Brank. Hardest working man in media.

Thanks for taking my call.

So much going on. What's on your mind? Um everybody's talking about, you know, the Trumping them cutting spending, which is awesome. We really appreciate that. But one thing that concerned me.

Is the automatic increase that the government gets every year. And if they don't tackle that, I don't see it ever really getting under control. And I believe it takes a sixty Senate threshold in order to get that bill repealed that's been around for like thirty or forty years. And if they can't stop that, then even if we cut now, it'll be back up in ten or twenty years because it'll keep increasing every year automatically.

So are you Philip, are you talking about the whole thing? We were talking about this yesterday.

So let's say Philip in Orlando has a budget and it's ten million dollars. And you've only spent six million. And here we are coming up to the end of the fiscal year. You'll find a way to spend that money so you can ask for it again next year.

So we've got to break that formula, don't we? We got to break the increase they automatically get. And of course, not spending it if you don't need it. But Yeah, that would be great. Maybe there'll be an incentive to do that.

All I do is I encourage you to read the Washington Post today on the Elon Musk story. They want to make it that Elon didn't inform the White House what Doge was doing. That's not the story. Just read it. And how he's putting his guys and women too on HR and other expertise on efficiency, and he's putting them into the government.

And do you know that whole thing that he just did, offering a buyout just to stop working? You don't want to come back to work, or just leave, resign. And if you do want, and if you don't mind resigning, you can work for another six months, we'll pay you. But you're done. He wants them off the payroll.

He thinks government is way too fat. He's already found a way to email this offer to everybody that's never been done before. two point three million people. His guys put everybody onto one email address and hit him. How we did that.

I don't know. But he did it. Not many people thought that was possible. Then he goes into the um his the did US digital services. And he says Keep in mind, the guy owns Twitter, the guy owns SpaceX, he owns Tesla, he's got the finest communications, human resources, doesn't mind firing people, keeps everything lean.

He's not a rich guy that likes people around that aren't busy. They got to show why they're producing. In his book that Walter Isaacson, who was our guest earlier, says that he'll walk into Tesla to a division and he'll give everybody five minutes with them, and one of some of that time is justifying what they're doing. And if they can't, they're gone. And if they do, they get raises.

So he wants to be impressed. He doesn't know everything, but he hires experts and he can see he's got a good BS monitor, so he's that intelligent.

So now he's sitting down with US Digital Services, which is now called US Doge. And he's having his tech guys meet with them to find out what they do and how they're doing it. Fundamentally, it's not to gut them or fire them or make them feel bad, but it's to see how competent they are and see how they can improve.

Now you would think, well, what is that? It's a little arrogant. When you read what he's done, when you understand the businesses he's had, how close he came to bankruptcy. thoroughly, I think it was in twenty two thousand eight. Bailed out by a few friends, learned from it, grew from it while taking tremendous risks.

He's sleeping in the Eisenhower building. That's exactly what he did at Tesla and Twitter. And he turns things around. He guts it. He shows you you could do more with less, and he finds a way to lean things out and make them more efficient.

I'm excited. His goal is to cut $2 trillion from the government. I don't know anybody else who could set that goal that might have a shot at doing it. And until you really fully understand who he is. You don't understand what he's capable of.

He's not just bright, he's got this sense of. economy um of being proficient in how he spends.

So the President of the United States is speaking right now. Um and I tell you, Gabbard is selling herself Over to Democrats, where a party that she used to be in at.

So she wants to be director of national intelligence. What is her liabilities? Uh they said she really hasn't done things like this and some of her stance that Blames NATO in certain degrees, not so black and white, but I'll just summarize it. She says that NATO expanding into Russia's doorstep has made them belligerent. He also said that Assad didn't really gas a lot of these people that we know they did and Trump responded with.

And when he visited Assad, she turned off a lot of people in her party, and now she switched parties. Here's her sparring with Senator Warner a little while ago on her support of Eric Snowden. I salute your service to our country. But I have serious doubts about your judgment. You consistently praise the actions of Edward Snowden.

Some who, I believe, jeopardize the security of our nation. Once again, Senator. Edward Snowden broke the law. She also released information that exposed the United States government illegal. Your legislation and your words are.

are still your beliefs. Yes or no, please. I'm making myself very clear. Edward Snowden broke the law. So that's going to be the area they look to To explore.

But Edward Snowden, she's going to say, released the fact that the government was spying on us to a degree. Yeah, the FBI was a little bit out of control, but there are whistleblower channels to go through. And many people might say, well, the whistleblowers paid a price.

Well, I'll tell you what, those IRS agents now have a new administration that have got their back. That stepped up and talked about how they were giving special rules to Hunter Biden, and they came forward and they had it, and they're fed up with it, and they've never seen anything like it. And it's not easy being a whistleblower by definition. Institutions don't like it, but there's a back channel for it. That's what Snowden should have done.

And I have no interest in Edward Swowdon. He went to Hong Kong and now he lives in Russia. That's the choice he made. He seems like a self-important guy who I have no interest in. Intelligent, but good luck.

You know, you have Vladimir Putin. Decide where you're going to live. Why a lot of people out there don't agree with me, especially on the right, they think he's a hero. I'm curious to see what Tulsi thinks, but when she gets there as DNI, it's not going to be her decision whether Edward Snowden gets back into America. Brian Kilmeicho.

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