One week until Trump's inauguration, several crises await

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmee Show.

So glad you're here. 1-866-408-7669. We have a lot to discuss. And this is the last full week of Joe Biden. He's got two speeches: one on Wednesday, one on Monday, that's today, this afternoon, on foreign policy.

Wednesday will be his final address. Please just leave. My goodness, this has been painful. Del Bigtree is going to be with us shortly at bottom of the hour, spokesperson for Make America Healthy Again. You know, that's what the theories behind RFK Jr.

becoming Health and Human Services Secretary. And Callie and Casey means the same thing about what's in our food, what are we eating, what are we taking.

So we'll talk to him about that. It's going to be a revamp of things that matter most to the most people: what we eat and what we take.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I think on the 19th, so one day before the inauguration, you know, TikTok. On our systems, on our servers, becomes something that's now banned by Congress. It has a national security risk to it.

That is Mark Kelly, TikTok winding down. As indications are, the Supreme Court will let the ban go into effect. Any clear-thinking American knows this is part of China's slow-motion invasion of America. As it becomes clear, according to the outgoing FBI director, they've infiltrated our infrastructure through cyber attacks. Number two, do you have faith in Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass?

I have absolute faith in our community. I have faith in our leaders. I have the faith of our capacity to work together. That is a maybe? No.

How about that? Fire is still burning in Los Angeles, and tens of thousands of lives have forever been altered. What went wrong? And why does the current governor think he seemingly deserves no responsibility?

Meanwhile, Mayor Bass has virtually no support. Number one. I do think it tells us that this Trump coming back to Washington is a different person at a different time. Different time in our political history, different time in his political history. And a lot of it is going to be different this time to Donna's point.

Not less resistance and more. Let's see if we can work together. One week to go and one week on power, one week on power beginning to take shape for the Trump team already. Also, nominations hearings begin tomorrow. We preview what to expect and what should not be tolerated.

First off, in terms of what they're going to do, they say they have over 100 executive orders ready to go on day one. In terms of what they want to do, it's going to be get those hostages out of the clutches of Hamas. And I think that's closing in. Number three, Vladimir Putin is going to be on the call list almost right away. They want to get something going to ceasefire there.

And they also look for a major border move through executive orders and just through backing up and enforcing the laws already on the books. But also, it's going to be compelling the nominations. And there's some that are going to be layups. Doug Bergham's going to be a layup. Marco Rubio is going to be a layup.

You look at. Sean Duffy will be a layup. For Doug Collins, his secretary of veteran affairs got respect on both sides and is still in the National Guard. Pete Hagsett, Secretary of Defense in front of Armed Services, and Doug Bergman, as I mentioned, will be no problem. That'll be Wednesday.

So, Doug Collins, Pete, and then Doug Bergman. That'll be Tuesday. On Wednesday, Christy Noam, many people think she'll have a hard time. I don't. Pam Bondi will plow right through.

Chris Wright, Secretary of Energy. I don't know much about him. John Radcliffe, liked on both sides and respected what he did as DNI. Russell Volk, people have a problem with him. He's director of Office of Management and Budget, but he also played a role in the project.

You know, Project, what was that called? The Project 51, whatever that was, but Project 2025. And she was one of the authors of it. But where do conservatives go when they're not in power? They go to think tanks.

And one of the number one is Heritage Foundation. Why would he not go there? On Thursday, Lee Zeldin, have no problem with the EPA. They'll question whether he believes in global warming. I'll have an answer on that.

Scott Turner, HUD. It should be good. Pam Bondi will have her day on Thursday the 18th. Scott Besant, the Secretary of Treasury, liked on both sides. That will be no problem.

In fact, I think the people he's going to have to answer some questions about George Soros, which he's done on our show, which would be no problem. When it comes to Pete Hakeseth and Tulsi Gabbard, Tulsi Gabbard doesn't have a date yet. It was a paperwork thing. He does Elise Stefanik, a paperwork thing, but they should have no problem. But Pete Hakeseth has done a ton.

FBI background check. He met with 40 senators just before Christmas.

Now he's over half the Senate body. Met with some Democrats like Hirono. Who's uh who's a a comic book character essentially? Uh she Hirona refused to meet with him, so that's on her. Blumenthal went to delay of game.

They finally did meet.

So we'll see how it goes. In terms of what Pete can expect, he'll expect to be attacked personally, but I think he's ready for it, especially he's already kind of gone through it already. Here is a little about what John Barrasso said about Pete Hegseff, cut 11.

Well, he certainly has the qualities that we need to lead the Pentagon. He knows about a fit fighting force. He is very qualified, in my opinion. He has a record a distinguished record of service in the military. Every senator gets to speak for themselves, and they will do that.

The meetings have gone very well. Things are heading in the right direction. The hearings start Tuesday, and they're going to be consequential. People will listen and make their own decision. People have already had chances to ask questions, and they're going to continue to do so.

I expect he's going to have quality answers to the questions that they ask.

So, yeah, the other person would be, and Pete's answers, and you know who's showing up? A whole bunch of Navy SEALs and veterans groups are going to be there to show their support. Also, word is recruiting is going through the roof since Pete's been named. We're going to get those numbers shortly. I don't know why we don't have them yet.

Now, Tosi Gabbard's going to be interesting because a former Democrat who questions a lot of the foreign policy that Trump was involved in early, has since been converted, actually left the Democratic Party from Independent, now has gone Republican, and she did go and visit Syria with Dennis Kucinich. And she's clarified some of the concerns people have because she wasn't as condemning of Assad. As many others were on both sides of the aisle. Here's what she said: cut seven. I asked her about Syria.

I asked her how she got there. And she told me she traveled with former Congressman Dennis Kucenich, and that originally they were just going to go to Lebanon and then they ended up in Syria. She said that she believes that Syria under that regime is a terrorist nation and that there were deep, deep problems in Syria that could endanger, you know, that were not favorable to us. And so she's explained, I think, a lot of some of the misinformation that's been out there, but she's getting ready to testify before committee. We'll see how she does.

Well, we'll see. Uh that's interesting, right? We'll see how that goes. I think she's going to do great. She is so good on camera.

And in confrontational situations. And I always bring me to it's very easy to speak. I think they all can speak. Most politicians are good can do a speech. But if you put Tulsi on the view, When you put her in adversarial situations, she excels.

She's very good under pressure. Pete is phenomenal under pressure, and I think that'll be key. And once this is done, you're not going to see any problem now. They're going to make sure that they don't do the Kavanaugh way, and Trump's firmly in support, and Trump has a lot of political capital. Uh that's pretty clear.

And one of the things that I find striking when you watch the Sunday shows is how many people on both sides of the aisle see the capital that Trump has. Because when he goes out there and he talks, people are listening and people understand that he has power and w and world leaders are coming to see him. The latest one to accept an invitation or get their invitation accepted is the Japanese leader.

So he's coming. A lot of leaders want to come, and he's saying essentially, I don't really have any room for you right now.

So his policies will be great. I think his power will be substantial. I think his promises are he's got some promises got to fulfill. He wants to bring prices down. He wants to start the oil and gas drilling.

That was the one thing that could be the magic potion to get everything going. Even when it comes to Greenland, So Greenland is making more and more sense. In the beginning, it was funny, and then it was striking how strategic it is. Then you see the fact that we have bases there, and the Danes really do nothing for that continent, that island. And you have the leader there that's been independent since 2008.

And now, evidently, behind closed doors, Denmark and the U.S. are talking about a relationship. And here's what Mike Waltz said yesterday.

Now, he told me this offline. He's like, listen, he's not just throwing out this stuff. He's concerned about China. That's why he's talking about Panama. He's concerned about prices and tariffs and all that stuff.

That's why he's concerned about Panama. And when it comes to Greenland, it's absolutely self-defense. Cut 13. And for Greenland, there's precedent there as well with the 1951 defense agreement that we entered. And look, to our great friends and allies in Denmark, they literally have a couple of dog sled teams, Jonathan, up in Greenland.

And when we're seeing Russia with 60 icebreakers, when we're seeing huge critical mineral oil and gas, new shipping lanes being opened with the retreating of the polar ice cap, enough is enough of having our adversaries coming into our Western hemisphere, threaten our national security. And President Trump is ready to take big, bold steps to ensure the United States is well defended.

So I thought that was interesting.

So that's moving forward. I think they're going to have to clarify what China's doing in the Panama Canal. Panama comes out and says they have no role. There is a role. And if there is no role, let's find out about it.

But more and more people are saying there absolutely is a role that they're playing, and they want to control us. They're trying to it's through cyber attacks. They're actually attacking and maybe nestled in to our infrastructure. Through TikTok, they're messing with our news feed. And through colleges.

They've been mu uh messing with Um Every one of these college students has family members back at home. It's already been proven through the Chinese initiative, which Joe Biden derailed. That almost every one of these students are potential spies because they got the leverage of their family members. And what they got to pull back is some information from these elite colleges who they pay cash, so everybody wants to take these Chinese students in, but at what price? There needs to be some regulation there.

When we come back, what's going on with these fires? I've never seen a leader do what Gavin Newsom's doing now. We'll discuss when we come back. Politics, current events and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say.

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I mean, you're governor of California, you might be the mayor of California. We're all in this together. We're all better off, we're all better off, we're all better off, and we're working together to take care of people and to make sure people are supported, we're empathetic. And we're here not just in the immediacy of the crisis, but we're here after the crisis, as opposed to creating a crisis in the middle of this by trying to divide people and play political, take cheap political shots. A couple of things.

I'm going to read it back to you. He was asked very simply. Does the buck stop with you?

Well, I mean you're Governor of California. You might as well be mayor of California. Don't know what that means. We're rolling this together. We're all better off when we're all better we're all better off when we're all better off.

And we're all better off when you're working together. Does that mean the buck stops with him or not? The answer is obviously no. When asked about the mayor of the United States, Los Angeles, are you for or against or cut eighteen? Do you have faith in Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass?

I have absolute faith in our community. I have faith in our leaders. I have the faith of our capacity to work together. I have faith in our community. I have faith in our leaders.

All you have to say is, yeah, of course I have faith in the mayor. I've worked with it before. We've been in constant contact. We've had tabletop exercises together. And this is what happens when good people get together on a crisis.

Nothing about that.

So uh the buck doesn't stop with him. And To me, he has no faith in Karabass. He's like, she's going down in flames. I'm not going to be a part of it. Pun intended.

Also, I wouldn't know this because we didn't follow this election close. Evidently, she does so much traveling as a congresswoman. They asked her. She said she promised during the campaign when she was going against Rick Caruso. She ultimately decided that she was telling people, told people at the times, if she was elected mayor, not only would I, of course, live here, but I would also not travel internationally.

The only places I would go would be to DC, Sacramento, San Francisco, New York, and Los Angeles.

Okay, in relation to Los Angeles. And she was in Ghana and after declaring a state of emergency because of the high winds.

Now Governor Gavin Newson facing criticism for slashing the budget. She's the one who should face criticism, and she has, over taking $17 million out.

Now, while everything else is gray area and we don't know exactly what you mean, they're always watching their backs while at the same time not throwing their friends out in the street. Different story with Los Angeles' fire chief. Listen to Kristen Crowley talk to a local T V station. about cut her budget being cut, cut twenty-one. My message is the fire department needs to be properly funded.

The growth of this city since 1960 has doubled, and we have less fire stations. Since the three years that I've been in the seat, I've sounded the alarm to say we need more, this is no longer sustainable. Yeah. Wow. Afterwards, she went behind closed doors where rumors were she was being fired.

And then, maybe, if it was in fact the case, my sense is. Karen Bass went nuts, probably broke into tears. And then she says, You're fired. And they say, Wait a second, you can't fire her. How bad is that going to look to fire someone for being critical of you for not supporting them?

When they needed it most before the fire. Here's more from Crowley, cut twenty. That is our job, and I tell you, that's why I'm here.

So let's get us what we need so our firefighters can do their jobs. Yes. When a firefighter comes up to a hydrant, We expect there's going to be water. We don't control the water supply. Our firefighters are there to protect lives and property and to make sure that we're properly trained and equipped.

Right. They don't control the water.

So who does? The person they hired uh for the Water Power and Water Authority. got paid seven hundred fifty thousand dollars a year. That's double what the previous person made. Everybody in the state and city, everybody in the city got their numbers through the roof in terms of pay raises.

It blew up their budget, so they start cutting around the edges, and you're seeing firefighters getting cut around the edges. Governor Chris Sununu was on with us Saturday night on One Nation.

So I asked him, just from the perspective of a governor, what should they be responsible for? I know your state's much different than Newsom's, but you talk to these governors all the time. What should they be responsible for? I thought he's put it very well. Cut 26.

It's outrageous because it's not like this is the first time this has happened. This has happened time and time again. And as a CEO of a state, the crisis is handled and managed long before it ever hits you.

So you create plans of accountability. Is he in charge of putting the water in the hydrant? No. But he does have the accountability to ensure that the assets are in place, the training is done, the tabletop exercises are there. Any lack and gaps in that system are reported up to the state so they can kind of work with those cities and towns to make sure they have what they need.

It's really that simple. But when you're spending all your time worrying about running for president, all the time on the politics, none on the operations and management, this is exactly what happens. Yes, and if you see him, I don't know why people can't see through this. He looks like an actor. I mean, he's sitting there with a little piece of his white shirt sticking out from under his sweater, showing up at different events saying, Yeah, this is terrible.

I'm going to get to the bottom of it. I've already chaired an independent investigation and I've cut red tape to make sure environmental issues don't slow down the rebuilding and the cleanup after this devastating fire. Never taking responsibility for the big picture and what he's a part of. And let's find out. The deforestation, he was not into cleaning up these forests.

He wanted it all to be natural. You remember that? Trump is already on record saying, what are you doing here? When we come back, another important component. Of the Trump era will be Getting America Healthy Again.

Del Bigtree, I'm that spokesperson for Make America Healthy Again. He'll be with us in the studio. Don't worry. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead.

Hey, we are back. And with me right now is Del Bigtree, spokesperson for Make America Healthy Again, former Communications Director for RFK Junior. Del, welcome. Thanks for having me, Brian. It's great to be here.

So, tell us your background. How you hooked up with Robert F. Kennedy Jr.: You know, I was a producer on the CBS talk show, The Doctors, for many years. I won an Emmy Award celebrating medicine and science in the public. I got on to an investigation of vaccines back in about 2016.

I released a documentary called VAX that kind of blew up. We got kicked out of Tribeca Film Festival. Why? Because they said it was too controversial. We were called baby killers.

Just for simply pointing out the whole story was around a CDC whistleblower that came forward and said they were committing scientific fraud in the vaccine safety studies. I just followed that story, followed, and interviewed a lot of parents that were talking about vaccine injury with their children. That study at the heart of the film that I made was about the MMR vaccine, its connection to autism. And what we see is they did a study early 2000s that looked like, at least as far as the whistleblower saying and the documents that they provided, that there There seemed to be a correlation between the MMR vaccine and autism. They kicked half the kids off the study, committed scientific fraud, absolutely rerouted the study once it wasn't showing what they wanted to.

That was the last study ever funded by the United States of America, all the way back in 2000.

So, this idea that we've looked into, it's extensively been tested. Actually, one of the last times we ever looked at it, it was sort of not falling in the direction that the CDC wanted.

So, that led me into an investigation into vaccines. I started a nonprofit called the Informed Consent Action Network. I do a weekly talk show called theHiWire and the HighWire.com. We've been suing the government. I have a legal team.

So, my nonprofit, ICANN, is the one. You heard how the Pfizer data around the COVID vaccine, the FDA wanted 75 years before they're going to release it. I don't know if you heard that story.

So, we sued. We got the Pfizer data. It's been released to the public. We've got the Moderna data released to the public. I sued and got the vSafe data that was the app for the COVID vaccine made by the CDC.

They were holding all this back, not letting out to the public. Have a public activism group. We're suing to make sure that the people have transparency.

So, in that work, obviously, I've run into Robert Kennedy Jr. We've been on stages speaking about the lack of transparency around the science, especially around vaccines, but drugs and food. And because of that, we've known each other. And then, when he decided to run for president, he said, you know, you're really good at talking about these things. You've also brought lawsuits together.

We sued HHS and won back in 2017 for not following through on their duties. When we took away liability in 1986, The 1986 Vaccine Injury Compensation Act. Essentially, the government took liability away under Ronald Reagan, but the Congress said, Look, there's obviously a problem with this vaccine program. The entire reason they took away liability was the vaccine makers were saying, We're losing so much money from death and injury lawsuits, we can't make a profit. If you want us making vaccines, you have to take on the liability.

So, every vaccine maker is now completely liability-free. But in that, the Congress said, Well, look, you've got to fix this product. We've got to fix it if we're taking on responsibility.

So, Health and Human Services was supposed to start doing investigations, do research on the vaccines, and then report to Congress every two years.

So, back in Uh 2017, uh Robert Kenny Jr. and I sued We started with a FOIA request, Freedom of Information Act request, just saying, can we just see the meeting minutes that's happened ever since 1986, every two years, what Health and Human Services was recommending and saying that they were doing to make the vaccine program safer, these meetings they had with Congress, and they refused to answer. We finally sued and they came back and said we never had a meeting.

So the entire act that was supposed to put government in charge of making these products safer, nothing happened there. And so that investigation and Bobby and I have been working on those issues. And it's really just about transparency. People make a big deal about this. You know, oh my God, he's anti-vaccine.

No, we're pro-science. Is the proper safety study being done? You know, when we, you know, I was with Robert Kennedy Jr. during the first Trump presidency when he sent Robert Kennedy to the NIH to have a meeting with Francis Collins, Tony Fauci, bringing our issues with the vaccine program. The big one was: we can't find a double-blind placebo trial of any of the childhood vaccines.

I mean, that's the gold standard of establishing safety in a pharmaceutical product. Are you doing those studies? They ended up saying no. They haven't been doing it. They haven't been following through.

They haven't been doing it. And when you go to sue, so if you feel as though some of these vaccines are giving your kid autism, you're pretty certain of it. What kind of legal angle do you have? Here's what we know. I mean, you can't be certain of anything if there's no science that exists.

And that's the position we find ourselves in, right? What you have is a bunch of anecdotal stories, definitely. But if you, you know, when they poll parents of autistic children, between 50 to 80 percent of them said, my child started regressing right after vaccination.

Now that's anecdotal, but where is the science that proves it's not the vaccination? We're told it exists. I've been suing. I have a research team. You can't find it.

We really don't know. What we do know is that autism has skyrocketed from 1 in 10,000 in the 1960s to like 1 in 30, 1 in 34 right now. And in that, there's only a few things you'd be looking at as environmental reasons. Remember, if they say it's genetic, genetics don't change that fast. You can't have an epidemic go from 1 in 10,000 inside of 50 years.

What, did our population start mutating or something? It doesn't work that way. You don't suddenly start having some genetic issues. 34 is a stunning number. It's a stunning number.

It's really shocking. And they keep saying, well, we're just diagnosing it better. To Robert Kennedy Jr.'s point, if that's true, where are all the guys Robert Kennedy Jr.'s age? He keeps saying, you know, if I'm 70 years old, or you're, where are the 70-year-old autistic men? If it's one in 34, every, you know, one of every 34 men should be filling old folks' homes right now with all the mannerisms of autism.

We see zero. They're not there.

So this idea that we're diagnosing it better makes absolutely no sense.

So then you ask yourself, why is the medical establishment saying something that is so easy to prove is not true? There's a real problem here. But, you know, what Robert Kennedy Jr. is saying is you have several things that happen. You have PFAS chemicals come along, bisphenols, the plastics.

You have this massive increase in vaccinations. As soon as they took away liability with the 1986 Act, it went from 10 vaccines to now we're talking. 54 shots, 72 vaccines, and counting growing now with COVID by the time you're 18. And at that same time, we go from 12% chronic illness, meaning either a neurological or autoimmune disease, in our children. 12% of our kids in the 1980s had an autoimmune disease or a neurological disorder.

Now it's nearly 60%. We're over one in two kids now is permanently sick. That is the greatest decline in public health.

So no matter what it is, whether it's fluoride in water, whether it's hormones in beef or pesticides on our crops or plastics or forever chemicals or too many vaccines or all of these things combined, someone has to get to the bottom of it because our regulatory agencies have overseeing every one of those products and something is poisoning us and something is destroying the health of our children. And that's all Robert Kennedy Jr. is saying. What he's saying is, I'm not owned by any of the corporate interests out there. I'm not owned by big pharma.

I'm not taking money. From oil and gas. I'm not taking money from big chemical, big ag, big food. I'm here, and all of it's going to be on the table. We're going to look at all of it as our regulatory agencies in the United States of America, as the people expect.

It hasn't been happening.

So, in other words, you want to see the study, so maybe if he gets in there. And he gets through. They're going to ask these same questions. He's going to be ready with the stats that you have, right? He's as conversant over as you are.

That's right. And now when he gets in front of a doctor like Doctor Cassidy, he said, If you're going to book to ban vaccines, you lost me. He is never going to say he's there to ban vaccines. He's there to study vaccines. You know what you have to do, and I would say this to anybody, you can go to the website right now.

Just go to FDA Licensed Vaccines. It has every vaccine that we license right there. You can put it next to the childhood schedule, because those are the ones we're talking about right now. But click on the vaccines on the childhood schedule. Then go to the package insert and go to 6.1.

That's where they say the trials that were done to prove it for lyseng. You will see that not one of the vaccines was ever in a placebo trial. If we never tested it against a saline placebo, how do we know it's safe? We don't know what it's we don't know. How long would it take to execute some of these studies, do you think?

I think you're going to have, I mean, it's going to be very difficult. Once you are past that placebo stage, now it's out in the market. You can't just draw it back. Everyone knows that. It would be unethical to take it off the market.

But what you can start doing is doing, you know, you have this database called the VSD, the Vaccine Safety Data Link. It's got about 10 million people in it that the CDC is housing. It has tens of thousands of unvaccinated individuals, partially vaccinated. We know everything. We know what they eat.

So many things about them. You have to start using modern technology, probably AI, but certainly computer learning. But let's do, you know, comparative studies. Let's compare fully vaccinated to partially vaccinated, you know, unvaccinated, and see if there's a signal. Same thing with people using plastics or drinking fluoride.

We need to start running the studies because we have enough people in this database to say these people use this product, these didn't, these people eat this type of food, these don't, and start doing comparative studies so that maybe we can find signals that then we dig deeper into it. Of work to be done, but Robert Kennedy Jr. is designed to do this. You could set up the infrastructure to have people question. A lot of pediatricians are saying, I'm getting so many questions now from parents that say, Why are you giving them all these shots?

They're getting angry. Have you heard that? I have, of course.

Well, I mean, look, when we say I'm just vaccinating my children the way I was vaccinated, it's not true. You know, in the 1980s, we would have had 10 vaccines. We're now giving 72 vaccines to our children by the time they're 18.

So, why was it okay at 10 vaccines? Why was it? And there's other countries, you know, there's other in Europe, there's 25 vaccines. Why is 72 here, 25 there? Are they dying?

Do they not see the benefit to these?

So, there is a good question: why so many?

So, Brian Johnson was on with me this weekend. You know, he's doing the big study where he's basically a big going through all these tests. It's a Netflix. Uh series.

So what he's trying to do is not dock.

So, what's your reaction about his project? I mean, look, if you're talking about like dyes and foods and things like that, or yeah, and he's just talking about testing all his organs and constantly trying to reverse the aging process. Yeah, well, I mean, look, we should be the healthiest nation in the world. We have the best hospital systems, we have the greatest agricultural system, yet we are the sickest nation in the industrialized world. We have the sickest kids in the industrialized world.

We have the sickest generation of children we have ever seen. As I said, declined from 12% chronic illness to now nearly 60%.

So, something's doing that. We should be looking at everything. We now know. You've got Vonnie Hari out there protesting Kellogg's fruit loops. Why does Fruit Loops have chemical dyes in it that are illegal in Europe?

Why are you know, and there's real questions? I mean, you know, when you. You're already starting to attack the dye situation already, just by bringing it up. Here's what Brian Johnson said about you guys. You know, I think it's fantastic.

I mean, I've spent probably more food than anybody testing food quality. And I can say that the food system is highly contaminated and toxic. And so I think it's a great endeavor. I think we should clean up our food systems. I think it would be an epic goal for us as a country to try to be number one in life expectancy.

I think that would be a really d mission driven objective for the entire country, is to get behind everyone extending lifespans and healthy lifespans.

So yeah, I mean, I'm here for it, and I want to contribute in every way I can. And that's recently Yeah, well, I mean, look, he's absolutely right. I mean, these chemicals, you know, we have this thing called grass, generally recognized as safe. We allow chemical companies and food companies to put brand new chemicals into our food with the assumption they're safe, without any recognition. And the goal usually is to make sure they're.

They're edible longer or fresher longer, right? Sure. Sure. So they can put them across the country. That they're brighter, that they have brighter colors.

Like, you know, the Kellogg's, the Fruit Loops in Europe uses, you know, beet juice and carrot juice for orange and purple. We use, you know, basically petroleum products. And we know the studies are showing now in rat studies, all sorts of studies, that it can be carcinogenic. You know, it has all sorts of endocrine disrupting qualities. It's all of this, you know, super-processed food.

More and more of it. It's not healthy. You know, if you just look at photos of the beach, you see these, you know, in California back in the 1950s, 60s, everyone's slender. You know, they were all eating meat, potatoes, broccoli, you know, big plates of food. It's not how much we're eating, it's what we're eating that is now killing us.

And we've got to ask ourselves: does the free market allow corporations to poison us? I think that that's the real question. Dell Big Tree is going to stick with us a little while longer, talk a little bit. Bit about the testimony this week and what an HHS department run by his body, RFK Jr., would look like. Don't move.

Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Killmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Killmeade. But it was really in the last 10 years that people started pushing for like ideological-based censorship.

And I think it was two main events that really triggered this. In 2016, there was the election of President Trump, also coincided with basically Brexit in the EU and sort of the fragmentation of the EU. And then, you know, in 2020, there's COVID. And I think that those were basically these two events where for the first time, we just faced this massive, massive institutional pressure to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds. That was Mark Zuckerberg with Joe Rogan over the weekend, five days after he had his chief operating officer sit down on Fox and Friends' couch and say, we're pulling our fact-checkers out, our third-party fact-checkers.

We already know about data mine, like when Moscow decides that they want to infiltrate with bots and try to sway the American public. We got those sensors in, but we're going to stop because we found out our fact-checkers were pretty much way to the left. And I couldn't justify it, and we're tired of being intimidated by a sitting government. Del Bigtree is with me right now. And Del, you were saying in the break that you had your Facebook page taken down.

Yeah, I lost my YouTube. We were broadcasting. Like I said, I have an internet talk show called The HighWire. We were broadcasting on YouTube, broadcasting on Facebook. The fact-checkers came in.

You know what? I lost my YouTube channel and my Facebook channel for two different things. One, for having a scientist on that believed that the COVID virus was of lab origin, not natural origin.

Now we know the FBI, CIA, everyone agrees with us. I lost my channel for. That and also for saying that the vaccine isn't going to stop transmission. I didn't make it up. I read the emergency use authorization that the FDA put out when everyone on the news was saying 95% effective.

If you get this vaccine, the virus stops with you. I said that's not true. The emergency use authorization says very clearly: we have no idea based on these trials whether this vaccine is going to stop transmission.

So everything happening in mainstream media was not true. It was a fabrication, it was an assumption, it was dreaming. And if you told the truth, you were being, I was being censored by every social media platform there was. RFK too? RFK2.

He's got a law, he had a lawsuit against the Biden administration. He found out through FOIA requests, Freedom of Information Act requests, that as soon as Joe Biden got in office, they targeted, he has his name, Robert Kennedy Jr., must be shut down by his own party. Remember, this is a Kennedy. This is an environmentalist. This is a guy that has been trying to get chemicals out of your water and your food and your air.

His energy is for it. Worship for it on the left. And worship for it. But Dale, what will he, will he? Does he have the management experience to implement the ideas and research and passion that he's shown?

I think he's showing you already. He's got really great abilities to choose great people around him. Dr. Mehmet Oz at CMS is a brilliant choice. He's been looking at that issue for years.

You've got Marty Macery at the FDA. These are people that are questioning things. They're not, you know, and but they're not, remember, they're not what everyone expected. He didn't bring in like some, you know, known anti-vax doctor or anti, you know, big ag, big food. He's bringing in people we trust, people we've watched ask decent questions over the decades.

McCarry's been unbelievable during the pandemic. Fantastic, right? Not a zealot in any way, but are going to look at it. That's all Robert Kennedy Jr. wants.

And by the way, you want the entire country to see what's going on. We don't want just Republicans or conservatives going, hey, I'm with Robert Kennedy Jr., and the rest saying he had an agenda. Brought in a bunch of people that thought what he did. He's bringing in unbiased scientists that we can trust. Is he ready to take the cross-examination?

Absolutely. He's been involved in cross-examinations his entire life. He's going to be one of the best there is. And he's prepared. He's been working, drilling.

He's been working at it. I'm sure. I'm not a part of that process. I'm on the outside running Maha. I'm putting the Maha ball together.

We're heading to Washington, D.C., just to celebrate Making America. I'm going to visit the healthiest ball in Washington D.C. We plan on it. Dell Big Tree, thank you. Thank you.

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to Latest Moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. We know Joe Biden, where he's going to be this afternoon. He's finally going to give his state of the foreign policy of his four years. He's going to go to the State Department. He's going to say, okay, this is all the great things I did and how I restored America.

I'd like to challenge that. Maybe you do too. And then on Wednesday, I'll give this final address. And please promise me you'll leave, Joe. And the stuff that he's saying on the way out is just farcical.

I would have won. And so should Vi or so would Vice President Harris have won. I don't know if he heard, but she didn't, and he wouldn't. If you looked at the polls, everybody in Herp in his party said it. But meanwhile, there's other things to handle.

Matt Taibbi is going to be on at the bottom of the hour. Chris Christie is queuing up now.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I think on the 19th, so one day before the inauguration, you know, TikTok on our systems, on our servers becomes something that's now banned by Congress. It has a national security risk to it. Senator Mark Kelly, TikTok winding down as indications are the Supreme Court will let the ban go on into effect if not sold to an American company.

Any clear-thinking American knows this is part of China's slow-motion invasion of America as the communist country has used cyber attacks to invade our infrastructure. Number two. Do you have faith in Los Angeles Mayor Care Ambassador? I have absolute faith in our community. I have faith in our leaders.

I have the faith of our capacity to work together. That means no. Fire is still burning in Los Angeles. Tens of thousands of lives have forever been altered. What went wrong, and why does the current governor think he seemingly deserves no responsibility?

We'll ask Chris Christie that. Number one. I do think it tells us that this Trump coming back to Washington is a different person at a different time. Different time in our political history, different time in his political history. And a lot of it is going to be different this time, to Donna's point.

Not less resistance and more. Let's see if we can work together. ABC's Rick Klein doing some analysis over the weekend. One week to go and one week on with power, still with Joe Biden's hands. Already you get the sense of what the Trump team will look like and what they're going to do.

Talking about 100 executive orders to launch. We preview what to expect and what should not be tolerated. And by the way, just a quick reminder: if you ever want the podcast, if you can't listen to us live, get the Fox News app. You can watch there or we're on all the podcast platforms. Governor Chris Christie, welcome back.

Good to be back. Happy New Year, Brian. Governor, one of your great qualities is how well you act in the clutch. When Sandy hit, people saw the results. You were hands-on.

If things went wrong, you were sitting right there. You saw it. You demanded accountability. It's one of the things I'm not seeing from California. And I know you know Gavin Newsom.

And I've never seen anything like it. He basically says, yeah, that's pretty bad. I got to find out what happened. As if he's not the governor of the state. It's an enormous failure, Brian, and an enormous disappointment for the people of California and now a tragedy for all those families that have been affected.

And when you're the governor of a state and a natural disaster happens, there is no one more accountable than you. There can be no one who the public is relying upon more than you. And you can't sit there and say, geez, what about? I don't know. Let me find out.

You have to be on top of it right from the beginning. These fires started. We knew they were coming. We knew they were expanding. And for him not to know and to go in there and take charge.

I mean, look, when Sandy happened, we had problems from all different types of municipalities that were affected. We took it over. We manage the crisis. And that's what a governor is expected to do. And his failure to do that, but more importantly, his failure to communicate with his people and let them know what's going on, what can be done, what will be done.

These are people without homes, Are now sitting, you know, looking for a place to live. This is. Just what happened in Sandy. We got people places to live. We did what we needed to do.

He's not doing it, and he's going to be judged very harshly for it. Yeah, but not him. He's going to judge other people. He's doing an independent investigation. Listen to this question and the answer.

Cut 17. Ultimately here, does the buck stop with you? You're governor of California. You might as well be the mayor of California. We're all in this together.

We're all better off, we're all better off. We're all better off, and we're working together to take care of people and to make sure people are supported, we're empathetic, and we're here not just in the immediacy of the crisis, but we're here after the crisis, as opposed to creating a crisis in the middle of this by trying to divide people and play political. Can you help me with this? I'm bad at comprehension. Does the buck stop with him?

What did he say? It's a complete word salad because he's trying to avoid responsibility and accountability. And let me tell you, if you want to avoid responsibility and accountability, don't run for governor. Being governor is all about responsibility and accountability. And he avoided it.

He was kind of sideways blaming the mayor. He was also taking a shot at President-elect Trump. This is not the time to play partisan politics. You know, the fact of the matter is, Gavin Newsome is going to need President-elect Trump in seven days. And in the days to follow, to help the people that he represents recover from this crisis.

And taking political shots at Donald Trump is not the thing to be doing at this point as a responsible governor. No matter how Gavin Newsom feels about Donald Trump, that doesn't matter. The American people have elected Donald Trump to be the president, and it's your obligation as the governor to work in good faith with him, not to take political shots at him.

So that is a complete lack of accountability and credibility. And quite frankly, Governor Newsom should be ashamed of himself.

So, Governor, before I knew you in 1992, I was out in California, and I was just living in a one-room apartment, and it burned to the ground. Lost everything, but I had nothing. I had no family, wasn't married. And that was fascinating because I saw the whole process, and we had no cell phones. There were no cell phones, period.

So 92.

So you had to run around, you had to meet people at central locations, you had to find out what you were eligible for. Then you had to see what discounts you could get at the gap or Sears were offering. And you literally were trying to rebound and find out where to go. And you need people on the same page. And we were able to communicate, it's hard to believe effectively, but there was organization.

I never felt like it was unorganized as everything burned to the ground for, and it stayed like that for about 10, 15 years. It is so important right now to let people know they get $44,000, to let people know what you could put towards. If you live paycheck to paycheck, and all of a sudden someone says, I need first and last for you to stay there for six months, where's that money coming from? You must have dealt with that. How did you get the information to all these people in these dire circumstances?

Every every day, Brian. We did three press events a day.

Some from our emergency operations center in Trenton, but two a day on the ground in a place that had been affected.

So that people could hear from us directly in those local communities. We would bring FEMA representatives with us to those events. HUD representatives with us to those events and representatives of the state government, and then we would set up tables. Right at that event in those communities with those people sitting there, so that citizens could come and ask questions and get help right then. That's being responsible and accountable for making sure that people know what they're entitled to get in this moment of crisis and getting it to them.

We went to them. We went to the affected communities and not only communicated all this information three times a day, but also sat there in those communities on the ground, boots on the ground to answer those questions face to face. Because sometimes people don't want to get on a telephone. They want to see a face. And in our administration, the Christie administration were folks who, you know, were very much in touch with the folks that we represented.

We would be there to give them a hug, to let them know that we cared about them and help them. Yeah, the other thing was I lost everything in Sandy. We got three feet of water, too.

So I'm a walking catastrophe. But then with a family. Yeah, I know. I'm in bad luck. Please make sure we don't hang out again.

But I remember there were central locations where we knew where to go. Also, the SBA loans, people like. Hey, I have money.

Well, an SBA loan which is above interest, which is below the interest rate, might be something your family wants to do. Because maybe you've got to get it out. Yeah. I mean, look, people are going to need cash. To be able to get a new place to live temporarily, they're going to need cash to be able to replace things like.

Beds. Close electronic equipment they need to communicate, all the things that they lost that are functional, not to mention, Brian, the heartbreaking I went through this, we lost everything in a flood back in the late nineties. And it's heartbreaking, the photo albums, the memories that you lose. The videos of our children. Those are things that can't be replaced.

So, what government needs to do is to step up to the plate and be there to give them the cash they need to replace the things that are replaceable. And Governor Newsom has failed, and Mayor Bass, quite frankly, looks like she doesn't know what's going on either. I mean, and what people need more than anything else, and I will tell you. Up until today, and Sandy is now twelve years ago. I have people who come up to me in New Jersey and say, thank you for making us feel safe.

after Sandy. It's about how you make people feel. Or is government there to do what they need to do, protect And serve the public. And the other thing is, too, is that as a someone who's if you're leading your family or if you're you're in charge, after like that minute moment where you're like sad and upset, okay, now you need a plan. And that's how you should be thinking.

I got to get through this day. I got to get the kids back in school. I got to get back to work. How do I get this money? What are we going to stay?

Is this hotel going to kick me out? Gavin Newsom was asked about the mayor. Tell me if this is a vote of confidence. Cut 18. Do you have faith in Los Angeles Mayor Carr and Bass?

I have absolute faith in our community. I have faith in our leaders. I have the faith of our capacity to work together. Does he ever answer a question? Read between the lines there.

You know what that means? Don't let the door hit you in the rear end on the way out. There's already, from what I understand, over 90,000 people who have signed an online petition to recall the mayor. My guess is that Gavin Newsom has his finger up in the air, feeling for the political wins, and sees they're blowing against Karen Bass. And since this is a guy who all he wants to do is run for President of the United States, Brian, that's all he's worried about at the moment.

What he should be worried about is doing his damn job. And if you do your job well, people reward you. And if you don't do it well, they don't. And by the way, If you do your job well and you accept accountability and responsibility, people will understand that you can't fix every problem like that. But You've got to be showing them that you're working hard and you're willing to take that responsibility.

And with answers like that, Brian, you're exactly right. This is a guy, guys who won't answer questions are guys who know the answers aren't good ones and they don't want to give them.

So the fire chief has really separated herself from the mayor because she got her budget cut. And this is a microcosm of where this country's at. We don't want to give all our money to illegal immigrants. We don't want to give it to DEI directors to make $350,000 to tell us how racist we are. We're done with that.

And they guess who they're underfunding? The fire department. Listen to Kristen Crowley on KTTV, cut 20. Did they fail you? That is our job, and I tell you, that's why I'm here.

So let's get us what we need so our firefighters can do their jobs. Did they fail you? Yes. When a firefighter comes up to a hydrant, We expect there's going to be water. We don't control the water supply.

Our firefighters are there to protect lives and property and to make sure that we're properly trained and equipped. And when they cut $17 million out of her budget, she spoke up at the time and said, Are you kidding me? I can't do this. I need to double. There's a double amount of people since 2010, but you want less firefighters to do it.

And what about in a time like this when you feel as though I got to make it clear? I told him about this. Look. She's doing her job, right? There's a contrast in leadership, right?

You listen to that fire chief, and at least on that particular issue. She made it very clear what she needed. And she didn't dodge the question. They asked, Did you fail? Did they fail you?

She said, Yes. I mean, that's what people, it's not a good answer to have to give, but it's the honest answer to give. And people deserve honesty and candor from their elected officials, not political gazemanship, which is what they're getting from Governor Newsom and Mayor Bess right now. And so, you know, look, they are going to have to figure out how all this happened and why, but that's for later. Right now, it's about taking care of the people whose lives have been destroyed.

I was watching a TV segment yesterday, Brian. To see the five members of a family had five different homes in the same neighborhood, they're all gone. And you see those people standing over the rubble of their homes, and one of their sisters died in the fire. Wow. And they found her remains.

On the grounds there. I mean, the tragedies that these people are feeling right now, they need the government to be honest, direct, and lend a helping hand. They don't need them to be playing the political games that Gavin Newsome and Karen Bass are playing right now.

So, what do you do when you're you're President Trump and you're president-elect? You're not the president yet. Would you go out there this week? Look, I think the president-elect, that's going to be his instinct. is going to be to go out there.

The question is going to be, is it safe? to go out there. I understand that there may be some more fires coming. And so I think they're going to consider whether he can be helpful in any way. I think one of the ways the President of that could be really helpful is to have his designate for Homeland Security, Governor Noam, who is obviously a governor who's dealt with crises in her particular state, and have the members of his FEMA leadership be saying, here's what we're going to do starting on January 20th.

And lend a beacon of hope out there. And whether he has to do that on the ground in California, or whether he could do it from Florida at Mar-a-Lago, or whether he could do it from Washington, I don't think it matters as much where he is, but that he tells people: here's the Trump plan. Starting on January 20th, for how we're going to take this thing over. And if Gavin Newsom doesn't want to do the job as President of the United States, Donald Trump, I believe, will say, I'll do it. Governor, 20 seconds left.

Do you think Trump should say, listen, there's strings attached. I want you taking that water from San Francisco. I want you to stop with. You've got to start deforesting the forest and clean this place up. I think that should be part of the Trump plan.

He should be laying out. These are the things that need to be done. He almost has to come in and substitute for what is an absentee governor and an absentee mayor right now. And I think that's what he should do. Governor Chris Christie, always great.

Thanks so much for your expertise. Brian, thanks for having me. And I pray for those people in California. A number of friends of mine have been hurt, and I hope that they get themselves back in order as quick as possible. Back in a moment.

It's Brian Killmead. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. You know, I don't know if you had a chance to watch Mark Zuckerberg or watch his chief operating officer on our couch, and then you see the Musk takeover of Twitter, which is now X, and then Matt Taibbi and Michael Schellenberger and Barry Weiss going in there and being able to look at all those past files and see Jim Jordan's study that shows how these social media companies have been manipulated, enforced, and intimidated by law enforcement agencies like the FBI and the Biden administration, including lawmakers like Adam Schiff. You got to see their emails, they're out there.

Well, Mark Zuckerberg is Runs Meta, which is Facebook, and which is Instagram, and I think it's is it YouTube? They also own YouTube. They don't own YouTube.

Well, they they own threads, I know that. Um And WhatsApp. And they basically said, We're going to we realize we were wrong. We were intimidated to do it. At first, however, the genesis started, we want to start fresh.

Should we do it? I'm going to ask Matt Taibbi this when we come back. One thing about what Elon Musk did when he bought Twitter, he said, guys, go through the files. Go through the servers. Find out what exactly was going on here and expose it.

I don't care where it leads. Do you think if Zuckerberg wants to be taken seriously and sincerely? Do you think that he should do the same thing? Would Taibbi do it? Why not?

If he says he regrets it, wants to turn over a new leaf, and says he had no choice because he was being intimidated by the sitting government, why not? Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. But it was really in the last 10 years that people started pushing for like ideological based censorship. And I think it was two main events that really triggered this.

In 2016, there was the election of President Trump, also coincided with basically Brexit in the EU and and sort of the fragmentation of the EU. And then, you know, in 2020, uh, there was COVID. And I I think that those were basically these two events where for the first time we just place we just face this massive, massive institutional pressure to uh to basically start censoring content on ideological grounds.

So Matt Matt Taibbi, we thought about you right away when we saw Mark Zuckerberg grow his hair out and then go on Joe Rogan's and his chief operating officer to Fox and Friends and say, We've changed our ways. We're no longer going to have an independent fact checker. They're too much to the left. I feel there's been way too much censorship and way too much attempted intimidation by the sitting government. And now we're going to eliminate that.

We're going to change it. I'm going to talk to anyone who wants to listen. What's your reaction to that? I think on the whole, it's a net positive. Obviously, you know, Zuckerberg coming out and saying all these things confirms.

A lot of what I reported, but also a lot of the information that, for instance, came out of. Jim Jordan's investigation in the Judiciary Committee into the Faith into the Facebook files.

So You know, even if it's not one hundred percent sincere. It confirms some things and it also suggests that maybe these tech companies are afraid to continue doing this kind of thing. What if So when he comes out there and talks about some of the reality and the intimidation from the government to censor certain things, whether it's vaccines or in early before that it was anything pro-Trump. And shadow ban people like Don Trump Jr. was the first one I heard of that.

What's your reaction to that? Are they saying, you know, thank goodness you came to save me? Were they saying Trump's in power now? I better change my tune. It's probably more the latter.

I mean, look, Zuckerberg Already broke the ice on this in August when he came out and he issued a letter. Talking about how the White House had pressured Facebook to censor and how the FBI had nudged the company towards. believing that the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation. His use of the word censor in that letter way back in August Kind of broke the ice on mainstream coverage of that topic because no one had really used that word before.

So whatever the motivation is, I think it's a net plus. For the effort to try to increase free speech on these platforms. If you remember, by the way, Facebook publicly didn't want to be part of this content moderation revolution back in 2016, but they eventually went along with it quite enthusiastically.

So, yeah, it's a mixed bag for sure. Here's what Zuckerberg said about what was happening, CUP 42. Basically, these people from the Biden administration would call up our team and like scream at them and curse and it's like these documents are it's all kind of out there. Did you record any of those phone calls? I don't know, I don't think I don't think we recognize that.

I mean there are emails. The emails are published. It's all kind of out there. And basically it just got to this point where we were like, no, we're not gonna we're not gonna take down things that are true. That's ridiculous.

They wanted us to take down this meme of Leonardo DiCaprio looking at a T V talking about how 10 years from now or something you're gonna see an ad that says, okay, if you took a COVID vaccine, you're eligible for this kind of payment, like this sort of like class action lawsuit type meme. And they're like, no, you have to take that down. We just said, no, we're not going to take down humor and satire. We're not going to take down things that are true. And then at some point, I don't know it flipped a bit.

I mean, Biden, when he was, he gave some statement at some point. I don't know if it was a press conference or to some journalist where he's was like these guys are killing people and I don't know. Then like all these different agencies and branches of government basically just like started investigating and coming after our company. It was it was brutal. It was brutal.

And now it's over. I mean, did that did you know that was going on behind the scenes to a degree? Oh, yeah. No. As he mentions, all of that was public.

So the emails about people like the White House aide Andy Slavet Calling up Facebook and yelling at them and demanding that they take things down ASAP. Um uh those were all public. They were part of both The Murphy v. Missouri Supreme Court case, and also Jim Jordan, as I mentioned, there was an extensive. uh judiciary committee report that published a huge cache of those emails.

that has all those exchanges, including the the White House side of of uh that story.

So it's not y you know, if Joe Rogan was lamenting that those calls weren't recorded.

Well, they they weren't calls. They were emails and we have them. Uh so it's You know, there's there's no doubt that it happened. The question is what what did Facebook do about it? And while they did push back a little, they didn't push back enough nearly.

There were some really bad episodes, including one where uh the White House asked them to take down a video by Tucker Carlson uh when he was at Fox. Where Tucker was saying the White House itself didn't really fully believe in the efficacy of the vaccine. And of course that turned out to be true. Facebook responded initially that that doesn't violate our terms of service, but they did deamplify it by 50%. Which is incredible.

So yeah, that's all a true story.

So do you think things changes, Matt? Like when you went into the Twitter files being reborn, remember two years ago, three years ago, when you did that, were you stunned by almost all of it? Or were you kind of Were you surmising that before you looked into the box and to the server. Oh no, I was Stunned. Obviously, it's interesting because Zuckerberg was part of the reason that in the Twitter files, we initially looked at the Hunter Biden story because he had given another interview to Rogan a long time ago suggesting that the FBI had contacted them about the Hunter Biden story.

So I thought, well, maybe there's a letter from the FBI or something like that. When we got into the Twitter files and we found that there were thousands of communications about thousands of different things and long lists of accounts that they wanted action, that was stunning.

Now, the stuff with Facebook was actually worse than the stuff that we had in the Twitter files because That involved um Communications directly from the White House, directly ordering them to take things down like RFKs. uh tweets about Hank Aaron. There was later some stuff in Twitter that got released in another case involving the New York Times reporter Alex Berenson that also had exactly the same actors demanding that he be removed.

So, yeah, this is all shocking and it's, I think, unconstitutional and needs still to be litigated.

So, where do you stand on it? For example, you know, they said that they have technology that allows them to be able to pick up the next time the Russians send their bots in to shape American opinion, and China and North Korea and Iran, I guess, have the same capabilities and objective.

So, if you were able to do that, do you let things begin to run wild? And what have you noticed over the last two years on X since you went in there and Elon bought it?

Well, look, the the companies and this is one of the weird little secrets of this whole story. The companies were already very good at detecting Sort of foreign bots and foreign disinformation. And what they would do is they would isolate and locate those accounts and then just make their reach very, very small.

So if they found Russian bots, no one else would really see those. Communications very much. They might be there, but not in very big numbers. And if they had proof, they would take them down. What ended up happening, though, is that the government.

was continually expanding its definition of misinformation. And so it started off as things that were foreign and untrue, then it became things that were maybe foreign or domestic and untrue, then it became things that were domestic and what they called misleading. Which was was You know, things like People dying after they got the vaccine.

So they didn't like that because that, quote, promoted hesitancy, even though it was true.

Now, you can see how that slippery slope is incredibly dangerous. You know, from the White House's perspective, it was disinformation when people suggested that the vaccine didn't prevent transmission or infection, even though that was actually a necessary, true, journalistic thing to say. That's why this is exactly why the First Amendment exists, this exact situation. And what Zuckerberg's explaining is an important thing for people to learn. But where does social media?

line up in terms of journalism in the First Amendment.

Well, social media, look, they're not news organizations, but they're news distributors. And the government has no legal or appropriate role in telling these organizations to take content down, they can make their opinions known publicly. But if it's couples as Zuckerberg mentioned, there was that thing where they said they're killing people. In that same press conference, they talked about how we might have to reevaluate Section two hundred thirty, which is a A big subsidy for these tech platforms. It immunizes them from litigation.

So essentially, it's a threat if you don't stop censoring. If you don't continue to censor, we're going to take away your immunity. And that's, again, exactly a classic First Amendment violation. Uh so these companies need to push back against uh these kinds of efforts, but but they can't do it. If the governments are not supporting them.

So let's say Trump's having his office and he has just real policies that are big successes and he has others that are controversial and he puts out a truth social. How do you think Facebook is going to look? How's X going to look? I think it'll be better, at least in one respect. I think it's very unlikely that these companies are going to continue to have the same relationships with The FBI and the DHS that they did before, that temptation will always be there.

I would say X has overall improved, but it's still got some issues, especially with Elon, when he doesn't like somebody personally, sometimes he'll um go after an account. But overall, the getting the government out is step one. And then getting the companies to behave better overall is probably step two. Here's what Zuckerberg said about other. It got really bad.

Elizabeth Warren, the worst, cut 43. What specific thing an agency might be looking into you for? And then there's like the underlying political motivation, which is like why do the people who are running this thing hate you? And I think that those can often be two very different things.

So I mean, we had organizations that were looking into us that were like not really involved with social media. Like I think like the CFPB, like this financial. I don't even know what it stands for. It's the financial organization that Elizabeth Ward had set up. Oh, great.

And it's basically like, we're not a bank. Do you bank sex? Yeah, no, so we're not a bank, right? It's like, what does Meta have to do with this? But they kind of found some theory that they wanted to investigate.

And it's like, okay, clearly they were trying really hard, right, to find some theory. But it like, I don't know. It just, it kind of threw out the party and the government, there was just sort of, I don't know if it's, I don't know how this stuff works. I mean, I've never been in government. I don't know if it's like a directive or it's just like a quiet consensus that like we don't like these guys.

They're not doing what we want. We're going to punish them. But it's tough to be at the other end of that. Right. And I don't want to see Trump doing it either.

You know, they can get he gets mad at people, but it's transparent. What's with the Washington Post? Jeff Bezos says it out for me. As opposed to a secret threat behind the scenes that gets delivered to them that gets discovered if you ever sell. Right, yeah.

And that's the that's the key thing is Transparency. The huge problem with what Zuckerberg is talking about is that there were realistically more than a dozen agencies that were seriously trying to influence content. on the big platforms, and they had the power to do it. Everybody from the DHS to the FBI to the CDC to, as you mentioned, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was even getting involved in some of this. They would sometimes issue recommendations that people not only be taken off the internet, but lose the ability to raise money, to use Venmo, things like that.

So this is exercising extraordinary power over people. who were just speaking in a way that the First Amendment wanted us to. And that it was incredibly dangerous. I don't I don't think people realize the scope of it yet. I hope that they will.

What about you, Matt? You've been on your own now with Substack for a while. How's it been going?

So Substack, I would say, of all the platforms has probably the best record of resisting this kind of stuff. They not I I don't know of an instance where they've taken somebody off Um some government agency or some group. Demanded that people be taken down. And that's what the companies have to do.

Now, the problem is they're small relatively, right? You look at somebody a company like Telegram or WhatsApp, and you have their CEOs being arrested in France, or Elon's being subpoenaed in different countries. And this is serious. It's not like an informal thing. They really, really have to worry about this stuff.

And so, yeah, it's a problem going forward. Lastly, in Silicon Valley, they say the AI guys are different from the Silicon Valley guys, you know, the Twitter, the Facebooks that emerged early on to revolutionize everything, that they're just less ideological. You know, that David Sachs, who's now going to be looking over AI and cryptocurrency, do you notice that at all?

Well, the people who are developing the AIs aren't as you know, ideological. The problem is that the the governments want a hand in how AI is used. This was the reason that I actually kind of changed my own political orientation with this exact issue because. uh the government last Spring was holding meetings with people like Andreessen and Sachs. And essentially, what they wanted to do is they wanted to fully automate.

The content moderation process using AI. Once they did that, there would be no paper trail. There would be no Twitter files that we could find that would even prove that this stuff goes on. It would just be a gigantic AI suppressing certain content and upranking others. And that was the big danger moment.

And fortunately, I think we dodged that bullet here in the States, but it's probably coming in Europe.

So, Matt, how do we eat your sub stack real quick? It's Racket.news on the internet. All right. Always great to talk to you, Matt. Matt Taibbi, thank you.

Thanks, Brian. Appreciate it. Back in a moment. You're with Brian Kilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions.

Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. I do think it tells us that this Trump coming back to Washington is a different person at a different time, different time in our political history, different time in his political history. The fact that so many members of Congress, some two-thirds of House members, elected either with him or since he was elected, it is a different place in every way. And yes, his interactions with some other leaders are going to be a lot different this time around. We're seeing signs of that everywhere.

Democrats still don't know where their direction is, and a lot of it is going to be different this time, to Donna's point. Not less resistance and more. Let's see if we can work together. And that's what I think is happening. Fetterman was over there over the weekend, and you had, I think, over 40 was over in Mar-a-Lago, I should say, Democrat.

And then you had over 40 vote for the Lake and Riley Act. And one of the questions Margaret Brennan had towards Senator Mark Kelly, Democrat from Arizona, was: you know, you voted for Lake and Riley. Yes. Don't you think you should have voted for that when it came up before the election?

Well, we're trying to do something comprehensive. This is a no-brainer. This is: if you're an illegal immigrant to commit a crime, you get to port it immediately. There should be no question. Basically said, you're right.

But they were so used to just saying anything that would make a Republican look good rather than make America be safer, it was a problem. I'm sure Republicans are guilty of that, but not like this. Expect Senator Schumer gave instructions and instructions to create some fireworks in the nomination process. Let's see if they can. Because for the most part, these men and these women are extremely confident.

It's going to be hard to unearth them. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmee. Thanks so much for being here, everybody.

It's the Brian Killmeat Show. This hour going to be joined by Brad Meltzer. He's got another book now out. It's going to certainly be a bestseller. It is Brad Melzer's Greatest Conspiracies of All Time.

He's going to be with us at the bottom of the hour. Also, put what we're going through now in perspective, historical perspective, no one better.

Meanwhile, Michael Goodwin is standing by with the New York Post. We're talking about the Trump effect around the world. And now we're seeing from Canada on down to Argentina, how many people are saying the Trump way is my way.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I think on the 19th, so one day before the inauguration, you know, TikTok on our systems, on our servers, becomes something that's now banned by Congress. It has a national security risk to it. TikTok winding down, as indications are, the Supreme Court will let the ban go into effect as it's supposed to the day before the inauguration.

Any clear-thinking American knows this is not about business, this is about national security. Number two. Do you have faith in Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass? I have absolute faith in our community. I have faith in our leaders.

I have the faith of our capacity to work together. Yup, that means no. Fire is still burning in Los Angeles. Tens of thousands of lives forever changed. What went wrong, and why does the current governor think he seemingly deserves no responsibility?

Number I do think it tells us that this Trump coming back to Washington is a different person at a different time, different time in our political history, different time in his political history, and a lot of it is going to be different this time, to Donna's point. Not less resistance and more. Let's see if we can work together. That was Rick Klein on ABC. One week ago, one week ago, until President Trump takes power.

And yet, President Biden is trying to sew up his legacy and make Trump's first few days, or maybe the first year, more difficult, we'll explain. Michael Goodwin joins us now. Michael, it's impossible to get your eyes off the fires in Los Angeles, especially knowing winds are kicking up. It's going to make every day just as difficult up until at least Wednesday. Your thoughts about the way Governor Newsom has handled things and Mayor Bass.

As handled things.

Well, good morning, Brian. I think the the only way to see how they've handled it is that they were responsible for this disaster. I mean, from the empty reservoirs to the forests that are never clean, never the dead wood is allowed to pile up, they've basically shuttered almost all of their timber companies, as I understand. And so you've just and of course, you were going to have dry seasons. Their utilities are not reliable.

I mean, they've had all those problems with fires being sparked by downed utility wires, the lack of maintenance.

So I think there's an ideology that governs California and much of the Democratic Party, and it doesn't allow for practical issues. That the ideology is what drives their view toward everything, you know, climate change, The economy, it's all ideological, it's not practical, it's never practical. Practical is racist somehow. Practical is you know, anti-climate. Uh, you you you you must hate people if you if you want to clean the forest.

I mean, they have all these weird ideas about everything. It's become like a cult. And California, of course, is quite familiar with cults, and I think their political establishment has become a cult. It just doesn't pay attention to the basics. And so I think that the governor and the mayor who are obviously now just stunned by this, caught off guard by it, but they do bear the responsibility.

It happened on their watch. It's as simple as that. And when you find the problems, when you find from the reservoirs being empty to the forest, all of that to overbuilding. And the mayor being out of town, the governor being out of touch constantly. I mean, it's just time, I think, that this thing has run its course.

It has. And let's talk about what it means in the big picture. It's time for a new view of leadership. They have a diversity chief that makes $300,000 per year. Uh, then, when asked, you know, is there a problem with too many women on the force that if there's somebody, uh, if there's somebody that needs to be carried out of a of uh if they're a heavyset male and they need to be carried out of a house fire, what are you going to do?

He goes, Well, they have bigger problems in who's going to carry you out. No, they don't. You need somebody that can be able to do that. Also, when you have 65% of the firefighting budget, 65% is of this, the homeless budget is only the budget of the homeless is over 1.7 billion. The firefighting budget is two-thirds of that.

And then, when asked about the firefighting budget, she says, I needed more at the time, I need more then. Then, we find out the water and power person in charge had her just Jansis Quinonis. Had her salary at $750,000. It was almost double her predecessor, which made it impossible from that budget to hire other competent people alleging that she's competent.

So they just gave everybody raises. They hired everyone willy-nilly. They're pushing forward with their personal agenda, but there's nothing good for the state.

Well, even Brian, you talk about the homeless budget of being whatever a billion point five or whatever it is. Look at the homeless, the tent encampments everywhere throughout the state. I mean, I know the weather is an attraction, and they don't have the shelter system that New York has. Nonetheless, where is the money going? Um that that kind of thing, it's it's like they they as I say, it's a cult.

W w we don't you know, w we have we have almost like religious Requirements and rights of passage and things. We can't rouse the homeless. We must leave them to their own desire. I mean, this shoplifting thing that started in California and that spread across the country, right? It's not a Gavin Newsom quarreled with somebody who said you decriminalize it.

No, we didn't decriminalize it.

Well, no, not technically, but what you did was make it a misdemeanor instead of a felony up to $950.

So everybody stole up to $950, and there was no real penalty for it because that's effectively what happens. You do, when you make the penalties inconsequential, you have effectively decriminalized. And that's what they've done. And so they've really ruined the state. I mean, it was it, you know, a lot of people say California was paradise, but it sure ain't paradise anymore.

So you talk about in your column the Trump effect. Even surprised him. You write Axio says, and you quote: It's rare, if not unprecedented for a newly elected leader to have so many world leaders and CEOs shift their policies or posture so blatantly during the transition to curry favor with the new president. Where's this coming from? I believe some of this, a lot of this credit belongs to Biden.

So ineffectual. People look back at Trump and they say, maybe he was more right than wrong rather than unworthy. Maybe he was ahead of his time. And now at 78 years old, Other world leaders are looking to him, and other world and other politicians are acting like him. Brian, I think the answer to the question writ large is just failure.

In other words, the failure of Biden is certainly obvious, and I think that's largely why Trump was elected. Very favorable comparison for Trump to his first term, to Biden's term. A perfect comparison was available. But you see the failures elsewhere. You see them in Europe, right?

The lack of free speech in Europe, the unfettered immigration, the declining quality of life, the inflation. All of these things are happening in a lot of democracies around the world. Canada, certainly Argentina had another problem of this. Um and so I think that people are l people now want their own Donald Trump. They want the solutions that he has talked about before and delivered on some of them and that he's talking about now.

They want immigration. There's a Angela Mirkel, the former Chancellor of Germany, really was very popular. I think she served for 16 years, Prime Minister. She left with all of these immigrations. She opened the gates of Europe.

to Syria first and then others. And she made pals with Putin over the pipelines and all of that stuff. And she's got a new book out now, Trying to Defend Herself. Because her legacy is in tatters. All these things that she did.

Don't forget China. Don't forget China and the manufacturing. They she destroyed her own auto business by letting China in there underpriced with cheap labor. And now in comes all these Chinese cars in Goodbye BMW. Yeah.

All of her supporters have turned against her, including in the media. And I hope that's what will happen in this country.

Now that voters have spoken, and now that we see the problems in Europe and elsewhere and Canada, I hope that the media in America will begin to understand why Donald Trump was elected, what people want, what people expect. It's not miracle. They want basic, competent government that respects the citizens of each country and that treats them as citizens and not as vassals who are there to be ripped off and told what to do. Look at the cover of your New York Post today. Guess what Kathy Hokul's doing?

invest in in tax.

So she's going to charge eighty five billion dollars to any oil and gas companies, and then they're going to put that money charging us more money to get oil and gas because she wants to save the planet.

So she's going to continue to tax us to death and think she's a hero. These, I believe she doesn't believe or know anything about the planet, but I think she just keeps looking at money. We need more money in New York. We never have enough money, right? All this thing with congestion, taxing, and the New York state budget is now $237 billion.

It's gone up $100 billion in a decade. $100 billion. It's more than double the budget of the state of Florida. And that's just the state's own budget. It's got all these off-the-books agencies like the MTA that have their own $20 billion budget.

It's about money, money, money, money. They don't know how to stop. They are addicted to spending. It's the only thing they care about in Albany. Everything is all about sort of the indoctrination, the leftist ideology, all of which is about Spending more and more.

It's this belief that only if the government had more money, everything would be great. They've been selling that lie for 50 years in Albany, and all we see in the state is going downhill all the time. He's a clear alternative to what Donald Trump is talking about in terms of leadership, in terms of using the money efficiently. Until they start losing in blue states, they're not going to learn. They just think, well, those people are kind of lost.

And Trump made some gains because Biden was enfeebled. But unless Governor Hokul loses to a Republican, unless Newsom loses to a Republican, I don't think things are going to change. I think a lot of people are just going to leave and just say, I got to get out of here. But they should sit there and be responsible for who they voted for. Michael, fascinating time.

I look forward to this inauguration and see what's changed in America. At least we'll be having a president that is pulling in the right direction, not for from secret, some secret green agenda, who wants to apologize to the world for our success. Michael, thanks so much. Brian, thank you. Back in a moment.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. He's gonna try to shape his legacy in these speeches, but let's be clear: I think this was a failed president. This is somebody who, by his own, if you look at his own inaugural address, failed on his own terms and is marked by a scandal where he deceived the American people about his mental acuity.

four years. And that was Stephen Hayes, hardly a Trumper by trade, but actually calls polls and strikes. And he notices the difference. And he notices that Joe Biden coming out and saying that he would have beat Trump and that Kamala Harris would have beat Trump. I don't know if you know, Joe, but you were getting your butt kicked by Trump, or your party wouldn't have tossed you.

And you never looked at any real polls, number one, number two, and we know that for a fact now. And we also, you couldn't work a whole day. That came out as early as 2021. And now we have Kamala Harris, who, according to reports, actually went against Donald Trump and lost. Rachel Bade, also a political, weighed in this analysis, cut for her.

I think two dynamics to watch, in addition to obviously how the nominees themselves perform, is the posture of the parties right now. I mean, I think the Trump administration. Played a major risk and did a major gamble when they went after Joni Ernst regarding the Hexeth nomination and tried to make this example of her. That really could have blown back. Instead, what we're seeing is Republicans saw what happened to her and they've all tried to get in line.

And there's really no indication that we're going to see another nominee go down, at least at this point. And then you have to watch the Democratic side as well, because they are grappling right now with what is their posture in this new Trump administration. And look, they have an opportunity to bring people in if they want. How hard are they going to go after these nominees? And I think that that's something we don't actually know yet.

They've actually, Democrats have backed up a Republican bill on immigration just this recent week that is moving ahead in the Senate. That was a big change in their posture from just the past four years.

So, Rachel Bade is also somebody calling balls and strikes. She's saying they're all going to get through. And I don't know any Republican that's dead set against anybody. I know that people say, Tulsi Gabba, what happened in Syria? She explained it.

Pete Hagseth, what happened in the past? It's been dumb. We went through the ring already, went two or three weeks with that. RFK Jr., well, look who's around him. Dr.

Raz, Marty McCary. He's got a vision, and he might even get some Democratic support. It's very hard for Democrats to go against. A Kenny, that's an environmental hero. You've heard that before.

Who else could be problem? Christy Noam, successful governor of South Dakota? I don't think that she's going to have a problem with homeland security, especially when she has the backing of Tom Holman and other czars around there, and the new ICE director who's been nominated.

So I think that they all get through. But the main thing is. Not only should they all get through it. Look, I remember. Nanny problems, old pairs without.

We all know the most successful presidents will have nominees that don't get through. That doesn't really reflect back. On the president, but I will say that speed matters, and people just see what's going on in Los Angeles. North Carolina is still trying to rebuild a hostage crisis that's gone beyond the Iranian hostage crisis of 1979. We have at least three Americans who are down there in Gaza, and the ongoing talks.

You can't have any air between them, and you can't have czars doing all this. You need a Secretary of State in charge. You know that Marco Rubio's the guy.

So why would you delay? Unless you just want a pure political purposes.

Now, I saw the report last week from Axios. They came out and said that Chuck Schumer told his guys and his women. Make some fireworks. We got to get some momentum back. Trump's got way too much momentum.

The public's in his corner. We see his approval ratings between 54 and 58 percent. No, fifty two and fifty four percent. My bad. And he said we got to stop that.

How do we do that?

Well, we got to embarrass him with some nominees. Good luck with that. People are tired of it. I mean, the Kavanaugh thing does not reflect well on you guys, Democrats, at all. In any way.

And you look back and you see a guy printing up something from high school that went up there, and then they talked about things in college. And we look back and go, Okay, when these guys get through you just make them look bad and make you look bad. Looking into their private life. Quick announcement. I hope you look good on February 15th.

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In Dallas, Texas, three shots were fired at President Kennedy's motorcade in downtown Dallas. The first reports say that President Kennedy has been seriously wounded by this shooting. Wow, and that was Walter Cronite. Was that Walter Cronkite? Actually, it doesn't even sound like him.

Walter Cronkite making the announcement that Bredson was shot. That was before the cable networks. You have an emergency broadcast break in, and that's what happened in Dallas. And we know that all shots landed and he would die. Here's Walter Cronkite one hour later.

From Dallas, Texas, the flash, apparently official, President Kennedy died at 1 p.m. Central Standard Time. 2 o'clock Eastern Standard Time.

some thirty eight minutes ago. Vice President Johnson has left the hospital. In Dallas, but we do not know. uh to where he has proceeded. Presumably, he will be taking the oath of office.

shortly and become The 36th President of the United States. And now we're up to 47, but no one will ever forget that. Brad Melter, best-selling author, host of Fox Nation series, Brad Melter's greatest conspiracies, his latest book, The JFK Conspiracy: The Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy and Why It Failed. It's on sale nationwide starting tomorrow, right? Yeah, we come out.

Tomorrow and Tuesday.

So, Brad, what were your thoughts when we were playing that? I mean, you must have heard that a million times. Yeah, no, listen, that's the one we all know. It's the one we all market by. It was the end of Camelot, and it changed the world.

It changed the world. I mean, and I don't mean, you know, we can say and argue, you know, what happened with civil rights and would that have come forward and what other, but it, it. JFK was the first celebrity president. And I don't mean popular, there are plenty of presidents waving from trains of crowds, but that celebrity that we see now, that the perfect life and the perfect wife, and you got fame and you have money. That was something that we've been chasing, right?

And some people think that was what the Reagan administration was. For some, it's Obama. For some, of course, it's Trump. But what I think is always true is it was a hollow pursuit. Camelot never existed.

And we're about to talk about why. But when I hear that, I'm just like, that was the demarcation line. That moment what Oswald did that day changed the world. And why do people still question? And that what one of the questions that Joe Rogan just asked Donald Trump, when you get in there, will you finally unmask all the paperwork to do with all the CIA reports to do with who killed JFK?

Yeah, and listen, most of the reports are all out. I work with the National Archives on their board. I love working with them. One of my good friends has read every single piece of book. The only person who reads every single document that there is, and people think there's some missing thing.

And there's no missing thing. There's no like magical, you know, anything that's gonna come out. You're a case closed guy. I it's not listen, the case will never be closed because Oswald died. Jack Ruby killed him.

And the moment that happened, we lost the one person who knows what happened, which was Lee Harvey Oswald. And obviously, in this new book, that's what we discuss, that's what we get into: we start with this plot that nobody knows about, and then we end with the actual plot. We show the actual plot. From Not only the First Lady's eyes, but her Secret Service agent's eyes. And it's a view you've never seen before.

It's Jackie Kennedy's view. And how'd you get it? Her Secret Service agent is an amazing guy. And I have to say, Lisa McCubbin wrote this great book with him. And I owe him a huge thank you for giving us that point of view that we get to share.

What's the discovery you made?

So, what we talk about in this new book is called The JFK Conspiracy. And just to paint the picture, it's 1960. It's right after JFK is elected, before he's inaugurated, and he's on his way to church. And this is before Oswald happens. What JFK has no idea is there's someone else who wants to kill him.

There's a disgruntled postal worker named Richard Pavlick, who is who loads his car with seven sticks of dynamite and is ready to kill JFK. And he actually flies down to Palm Beach, Florida. And because Pavlik follows him there because he's like, JFK security isn't as good there. And he's right about that.

So all this killer has to do is hit the trigger mechanism that he's built, and boom, will go the dynamite. And what saves JFK's life that day, I won't ruin it, but it goes, has to do with Jackie, is leads to one of the craziest JFK stories you've never heard in your life. And it's about the first plot to kill JFK. That's what the JFK conspiracy is. Just like you found the first one to kill Lincoln.

Our specialty is finding these stories. What I love is these stories you've never heard of. And when we did this story, What makes it so interesting is we dive in not just to the story of how to kill him, because it is an amazing story. But also his life. And one of the things who's the star in this book is Jackie.

And Jackie Kennedy, we don't pull any punches here. We show you JFK's affairs, we show you how he kept them hidden. we show you that when Jacky was giving birth, and she's hemorrhaging, and they rush her to the hospital. JFK is nowhere to be found. He's on a plane headed to Florida.

And it's a secret service agent. Clint Hill, who comes in and actually was the first one there for her. And what's amazing about it is, I kept saying to myself, Like Brian, why do they call this Camelot? Wait, why? And I finally figured out this.

This is what I discovered. is that Camelot Actually, it isn't used until after JFK is killed, after the assassination. Jackie Grant's one interview. To Life magazine. And she tells the reporter this exclusive story.

She says that when JFK was in pain in the White House, and he was lying there, and his back was hurting him. To calm him down she would put on the record player a s song that he loved the most, about a place called Camelot. That is how Camelot entered the lexicon. Jackie put it there. She was a reporter when she started.

So she was a member of the press. She was hounded by the press. But make no mistake, she was a master of the press. She's the one who put it in the lexicon. When you say it never existed, what do you mean?

It was his never that idyllic family. Obviously, we'll see what happened next. Right, I mean, JFK is an incredible World War II hero. He saves the life of everyone that's on his ship when it gets blown to bits. He puts an unconscious member on his back and he swims two miles with him on his back because he's the best swimmer.

He's amazing. Takes us to the moon, unleashes idealism like never before. Is he amazing? Of course he is. But is he also a completely reckless husband who's cheated on his wife that we document in the book, too?

Of course he is. So Camelot, why I say it never existed, it's not that some greatness didn't exist. When it came to hope, Camelot was real. But when it came to the perfect life and the perfect wife and the perfect family and the perfect smile, that wasn't real at all. Right.

He wasn't even supposed to be the guy. It was supposed to be his older brother Joseph. His older brother Joseph. And listen, this family was. And we document this too in the book.

You know, what his father, he's a strong-minded guy, right? I mean, he gets what he wants. There's a moment where when they're trying to figure out, should Bobby be Attorney General? And they say, Sir, Bobby doesn't even want to be Attorney General. He knows it's going to look like mepotism.

He doesn't want to do that. And we should not do that. And Joe Kennedy looks at his buddy and says I appreciate that. Bobby's going to be attorney general. There's no arguing with it.

And what you get to see in this book is the behind the scenes in JFK's marriage and Jackie and what Camelot was really like behind closed doors. Right, and what it would have been like had he survived. But when it comes to the actual conspiracy itself, it seems to have been on jet fuel of late. Yeah, it is. And let's talk about it.

He's got the mob is down.

Well, that's right. Let's talk about it. I mean, so when I talk to the Secret Service. I asked them, I said, Tell me about assassins. I'm researching assassins.

And they taught me long ago. Presidential assassins fit into two categories. There's hunters and there's howlers. And Howler makes a lot of noise and says, I'm coming to get you. I hate you.

I'm coming to get you. but they rarely take action. A hunter's very different. A hunter barely says anything. but they are the ones who tend to pull the trigger.

And if you look at the four men who have successfully killed a U.S. President, from Abraham Lincoln to JFK, they are all hunters. Richard Pavlik in our JFK conspiracy book. He starts as a hunter, but he's a howler, too, and he opens his big mouth. And what's fascinating to me, what you just said, which is so interesting.

If you look at who killed JFK, if you wonder who killed him. In the nineteen sixties when JFK is killed, We said who who do we blame it on? We said it was the height of the Cold War. It was it was our great enemies at the time. It was the Russians, the Cubans, the Soviets did it.

If you look in the 70s, as Watergate happens and we have mistrust in the government, who killed JFK?

Well, it was an inside job. LBJ did it, the CIA did it. If you look in the eighties When the Godfather movies peaked, Who Killed JFK? It was a mob, right?

So decade by decade, if you want to know who killed JFK, it's whoever America is most afraid of at that moment in time. There was a theory out there that people who are obsessed with a conspiracy have a father complex. It's not just a father complex. I think they have a fear complex. You know, here's the thing that I've realized is that The idea That it takes a lot of people.

To Be to take down a US President is a comforting thought. The idea that it takes one person to change the entire world, that one guy on one day can change, take down the president, kill us all, and change America, that's a terrifying thought. It's much easier to believe. It takes tons of people and lots of planning and millions of dollars and all these things. And so we want to believe that story.

So I want you to put what we're going through now in perspective too when we come back, Brad, because we have an inauguration which is happening in literally in seven days. We also have a president returning to power, only happened once before in our lifetime, Grover, Cleveland. And then what it means for the rest of the world. We see duplicates popping up in Argentina and possibly over in Canada. Is there a theory?

Now, meanwhile, just a quick note before we go to break. Tonight, Barnes Noble and Carl Place, for WABC listeners, especially, you'll be there at 7 o'clock. Baltimore area, Books a Million over in Columbia, Maryland. That'll be Tuesday with the books debut. Fairfax, Virginia, Barnes Noble, Fairlakes Promenade Wednesday, January 15th.

Atlanta, Georgia, on the 16th, Atlanta History Center on the 17th, 7:30 in Dallas, Museum of Art. And then the St. Louis County Library over in January. I've been there January 18th. That'll be at 7 o'clock.

So we can always get it at Brad Melcher. You can go to Brad Melcher, go to Amazon. Anyone loves history. And if you love Jackie, you're going to love this book. But also to find out where you're going to be.

Yeah, go to bradmelcher.com and the whole tour is there. Back in a moment. Expanding your knowledge base. It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin.

It's Brian Kilmeade. Hey, we are back. I just want to give a shout out to one of our new stations. Just went to a more powerful single: The Voice of the Pine Belt. Hadesburg Laurel is now on its new signal.

It's News Talk 107.1.

So that's great, more powerful. More people in the area will have a chance to listen. We appreciate that. And if you are, Brad Melter out with a brand new book, officially available tomorrow, but order it now. It's called The JFK Conspiracy: The Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy and Why It Failed.

It's on sale tomorrow, but you can go order it today.

So this way it'll show up right away.

Now, Brad, do you realize RFK is also on the record? Saying that I don't know who killed my broth my f I'm not sure who killed my father. Despite the fact that everyone was there and had all these witnesses, I know. And he was there. And he was there, right?

I was going to say that's the other part. I wish I don't know that I I I've looked into it, but I I disagree with that one, man. But it, you know. I don't care what anyone says, when your father dies in front of you. That's a hard one.

So I there's no judgment on anyone. That is one of the greatest, hardest things that any person can ever face. But the family has it's not only it didn't even start there. When JFK himself is killed, his father, Bobby Kennedy, Um obviously Junior's father. Uh Actually JFK's brain went missing.

And they did the autopsy. They took his brain out of the body. They And his brain, it sounds almost like a science fiction story, right? Like a 1950s story. I wanted to put this in the book, but we didn't have room for it.

But they put his brain in a metal container. And then that metal container went to the National Archives where it sat. Until Bobby Kennedy's secretary, on the record, you can see it. We went researched it. came and picked it up, and then the brain went missing.

And nobody to this day knows where it is.

Now, we think we know where it is, and it's Bobby Kennedy then took it. And threw it into the ocean, had a helicopter fly it over the ocean and dumped it. Why? Because he didn't want anyone picking apart his brother's belongings and brain and doing weird stuff with it. And I don't blame him for that.

If, God forbid, something happens to your family member, you don't want everyone dissecting it, but it's a crazy story. Oliver Stone did a lot of damage in terms of accuracy. He put together this book and a lot of people, the movie, and a lot of people think that's almost a documentary. Right. I mean, he's creating characters and talk about it.

I mean, it's such a when I was researching the JFK conspiracy, researching this book, I was like, and my whole life, I grew up going, well, listen. Oliver Stone's great movie when I was younger. I saw it, and it said that no one has ever been able to recreate the shot that Lee Harvey Oswald took from the book depository. And I took that to mean. Wow, it had to be two people.

If no one can recreate that shot, it's a one in a billion shot. It couldn't have been just him. Here's the problem. Is that that was a lie? That was not true.

There have been dozens of people and Marines who have recreated that shot. In fact, the distance of it is about the distance that a Marine currently needs to do to become a sharpshooter. And when you ask Oliver Stone, you can look on the record. He'd say, yes, I put some other things that were exaggerations in my movie because the Warren Commission had things that were wrong and I wanted to balance them out. And it's my one true belief, Brian, Don't get your history from a Hollywood movie.

That's why I write these books. That's why you write your great books, right? It's like to make sure that people know the true history. And I love the fact that we get to show you the secret plot to kill Kenny at the beginning that no one knows about, and then we take you right to the end and show you what really happened from Jackie's perspective. And it's heartbreaking.

Watching her take off her gloves, which are caked in blood. Watching her, when they say, Can I take your ring off because it's covered in blood? say no, I want people to see it. I want people to see what they did to my husband. And it's a it's a uh if you especially if you love Jackie, you will love this book.

How did it affect her? You said you talked to a Secret Service agent that gave you her perspective. How did it affect her? Because she went quiet, right? Yeah, listen, it your whole life explodes, right?

Your husband's brains are splattered all across beautiful Pink dress, you're kicked out of your home. Right, you ha obviously she has places in Massachusetts, she has a place in Palm Beach, but your life has changed forever. And here's the thing that people don't realize: Jackie wanted no part of the spotlight. It's the one thing at at the beginning of when they get engaged. Jack is in love.

And one of JFK's, we document this in the book. One of JFK's best friends comes up to Jackie after their engagement. and says, you know, Jack loves women. He basically is going to continue to sleep around. tells her to her face that he's going to continue to sleep around.

And she's like I'm going to fix it. I'm going to make it better. But of course she can't. And at the time there were people her neighbors knew what was happening. They knew he was sleeping around, and they would go to threaten to tell the story, and someone would show up.

At the neighbor's door, and say, if you put this story out there and continue to tell it, we will ruin you. And guess what, that story stays hidden.

So Jackie's trying to hold this whole Camelot place together. But has this husband who's cheated on her? Right, which is amazing. And then seeing she she ends up uh marrying a a Greek tycoon. Listen, I in my belief again, I don't know anything about the marriage, who knows what people get married, but there's very few people that you can trust when you're at that level.

of people watching you. And you need two things if you want to drop out of the world, right? You need money and you need someone who's going to keep their mouth shut. And listen, that woman deserves and has earned her privacy. It's a hard life.

But, you know, the world that was left behind, and it's it's it's you know, important to talk about what happened in 1960 to JFK. I know it's titillating for me to say, Hey, we found this secret plot that killed JFK no one knows. But the reason we tell this story, the reason I know you tell your stories, is what does it tell us about where we are today? And when you look at the 1960 election between Nixon and Kennedy, It was the closest election in modern times in the twentieth century. Whatever side you are on, You bitterly hated the other.

You thought the other side were complete, horrible, awful morons. Does that sound familiar to you? It's exactly where we are now. And you had all these people ginning up hatred for JFK, saying he's a Catholic, you shouldn't elect him. He had Reverend Norman Vincent Peel, Reverend Billy Graham, who's amazing, right, but in the early parts of his career thought JFK will not be loyal to America, he's going to only be loyal to his Pope.

We can't have a Catholic be president. And obviously, it sounds almost silly today, but that's what they believed back then. Also, Kennedy going after Eisenhower. And saying, turning the page. Of course, we've got to turn the page.

No one's happy with that. And the KKK separately says they see Kennedy as the worst thing of all, which is an immigrant. They saw him as an Irish Catholic immigrant, and you can't have an immigrant run in the country.

So they go after him for that. And when you. Put out that much venom and hatred. You can't be surprised when someone gets activated. Right.

And Richard Pavlik, that's a Scruntal postal worker, gets activated and says, I'm going to kill Kennedy long before Lee Harvey Oswald does. And that's where we are now. You have all this venom and hatred out there. And I hate to say it, but I sadly think we're going to see other attempts. Right.

Maybe there are attempts, but I think in many ways the country is turning the corner on a lot of those divisive issues. I hope so. I mean, we need it more than ever. Hey, check out Brad Meltzer's tour, Begins Tonight on Long Island, and check out his book, The Secret Plot to Kill Kennedy. Thanks, Brad.

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