Governors mocked for trying to "Trump proof" blue states

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kelmead.

So glad you're there. Thanks to us so much for listening all week long. Brian Killmee coming your way this hour. You know, it's unbelievable how we started the week. I mean, we got an assassination four blocks away from here and of a CEO of a healthcare company whose assailant is still at large right now, and we'll break that down to the degree we can.

This day is going to be pretty big. JD Vance, and I give these guys tremendous credit. JD Vance is touring Helene recovery efforts in North Carolina. Here's North Carolina is really hurting. But rather than say, okay, I got the vote, I won North Carolina, what's the big deal?

I'm going back. I want to see what the problem is. And remember the whole thing about if you have a Trump sign, don't go help out, FEMA, don't tell me that place doesn't need a restructuring. Also, today the jobs numbers are in. They came in high.

They expected 200,000. It was over 237,000. That is good news.

However, if the data is high and the jobs report is hot, it'll reduce the urgency for a Fed cut. That'll affect a lot of things and increase the chance of a pause, possibly not raising rates, on December 18th, which would be next week. Kind of complicated. All good. We're in a pretty good spot.

Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. The DA's office is reading the room and they see how unpopular this case is and how ludicrous it has become. And so they're almost backpedaling now. And of course, if you're going to do that, you shouldn't have brought the case to begin with.

Paul Morrow talking about backing off on the sentencing if Danny Penny is found guilty. What a joke. Four days. I am worried. Worried about the fate of Danny Penny as this New York City jury deliberates.

Remember the last time they deliberated on President Trump? Four days asking the judge multiple questions about what happened on the subway, which ended up with the death of Jordan Ely. I have the latest. Number two. We're reacting to Donald Trump's, the reality of Trump 1.0 and his assertion of what he wants to do in the second round.

His call for retribution and revenge is pretty clear. Trump proofing. What does that even mean? As some Dems scramble to prepare for when Trump takes back America, but for many on the left, the days to marginalize this historic figure is over. We'll discuss.

Number To go willy-nilly and think you're just going to cut $2 trillion off something or $100 million off this and these ideas that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk have clearly are not founded in any bit of reality. Really? That's what we have to look forward to with Jackie Rosen, the Congresswoman, the MSNBC yesterday, Doge on Fire. The Must Viva budget busting team brought their private sector game to Capitol Hill, and it's clear they are not here for headlines. They are worried about America's bottom line, and so should you.

So, Carol Markwit's coming up in 10 minutes, and Andrew McCarthy and the latest on Danny Penny and more at about 34 after. But let's take a look at this.

So we saw Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk go to Capitol Hill. If you have not seen the video yet, Musk has got, I think, seven kids, one of which was on his shoulders the whole time, about two, three years old, and just walking in and meeting some congressmen and some senators. I'll talk about their ideas. Listen first off and get their ideas for getting our financial house in order. Think about this.

Our number one. Toll on the economy. You know what it is? It's the interest on the debt that we have at thirty seven bil uh trillion dollars.

So they made their way through. Yeah, we have three million dollars. I mean, the stuff that we waste m money at, three million dollars for a Girls Center Climate Action, forty five million DEI scholarship in Burma, eighty nine million improperly stored gas engines deemed uh Useless. $125 million to racialized public health, $7 billion to empty government buildings.

Now, another thing is, you find a stunning amount of people that don't go to work. You get this federal workers, only 6% are back. And what you do is you come in and you say, if you don't go back to work, you're fired. And this way, you're making your own choice. A 3% increase prior to COVID.

That's it. 90% of federal employees work from home. Come on. Are you kidding? Right there, that's an issue.

Also, there's another move you could say, no longer you're going to be in Washington. It's a swamp. Nothing gets done. Get better rates on office buildings. You're going to move.

If you don't want to move, you are now out. Also, I like Rand Paul's idea of just a hiring freeze as behemoth of a government. It'll begin to weed itself out. Why isn't that a good move? Why isn't that in everybody's interest?

Kimberly Stroslow writes this: Doge's mission is the opposite of mission creep. I got it. But she also says any elimination of waste or duplication of fraud is welcome, and those will be the easiest targets. But the GOP, Congress, and presidency shouldn't get away with suggesting Doge can do the work only. They can.

Only they can. Real change requires cutting programmes, simplifying rules, handing power back to states. And I agree. telling Elon Musk to be the bad guy when they're the ones who are going to legislate is not really right. But what I trust is their intellect, their ability to see through systems And their experience to look at the public sector and say, I want it more like the private sector, these are my recommendations, and this is how I would do it.

Tom Schatt, an expert in this area, was on cost cutting and government fat, said this, cut three. That's just another example of how difficult it is to accomplish what the Doge is trying to accomplish. There are a lot of factors in Washington, D.C., a lot of opposition, the unions, members of Congress who live around Washington, D.C., when members talk about moving those employees out of Washington. It's a tough battle, one we've been trying to win for a long time. But this should add momentum to it.

You're right. It should.

So Senator Blackburn has an interesting approach. She is going to use legislation, and she's going to get legislation to go along with this to take action. And that's what people need. You need to know that the government's going to be behind you, and you need to know that a lot of people are going to go a long way, especially a year from now, to make sure the president is not successful. With her, she has a bill.

She says, I'll be introducing legislation that coincides with Doge's plan to make the federal government more efficient.

So there'll be some federal hiring freeze is one act. Begin the process to relocate agencies out of D.C. is another act. Establish a merit-based salary system to the federal workforce. Close.

One of the lowest hanging fruit areas is look at areas under the executive branch through executive action that can actually be put an end to a lot and save a lot more money and doesn't have to go through authorization of Congress. I think it's great, but this is what's going to be scary for Democrats in a year. If this government's efficient, they're making gains with peace in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe, and then they're starting to cut waste and keep the economy booming and growing, Democrats are going to feel like we're going to be stuck in the wilderness forever, and I worry about them trying to Trump-proof the presidency. Trump proof their states to make sure the presidency is not effective. Among the people who think it's a lark.

to go out and try to firm-proof, like what Gavin Newsom's talking about. Here's Charlemagne the God. First off, here's Gavin Newsome, cut seventeen. We're reacting to Donald Trump's the reality of Trump 1.0 and his assertion of what he wants to do in the second round. I think it requires us to be diligent, to focus, yes, on what happened in the past, but prepare for Trump 2.0, where his rhetoric is only heightened.

And his call for retribution and revenge is pretty clear. And anyone who's not paying attention, I think, is doing so at their own peril. Again, the same attitude that says racist, fascist, Hitler. That no one's listening to you. And you're buried in debt.

You have not balanced a budget. And he wants something like $80 million to begin to Trump proof California. You, Charlemagne, the god, on the idiocy of this. And keep in mind, this guy's never going to go to Donald Trump or probably ever a Republican. Cut 18.

I do wonder what that means: the Trump-proof of state. Like, how do you Trump-proof. A state in America, like what happens when you need the president of the United States of America for something, you know what I mean? Like, I don't, I don't. I don't quite understand what that means.

Make it about the policies, because when you say things like Trump proof, you're going to end up looking like a hypocrite when you need the President for something and you all in his face smiling and cheesing the same way President Biden was after they called him a threat to democracy and all of these other things, and then you was like, Welcome back. you know, when it came time for the White House, when he came so it's like, cut it out. Yeah. I mean, he's trying to say, do you have to look like an idiot every day? You're going to tell everyone you're not going to pardon your son.

You pardon the son. The people that believed you look have egg all over their face. And then you're about to do it again, Governor Gavin Newsom. You got your fires every single day. You're always susceptible to floods and mudslides.

You're going to need federal support. Trump's going to put on the jacket, go out there, you're going to put on the hat, and then you're going to give him a big hug, and you're going to say, Thanks so much for being here. And a lot of people are going to sit on the sidelines and say, Is that Trump Proofing? When we come back, Carol Markowitz joins us from the New York Post, and then Andrew McCarthy breaks down the Danny Penny story, and so much more. Got a lot to do.

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Dive deeper than the headlines and the party lines as I take on American life, politics, and entertainment. Subscribe now on FoxNewsPodcast.com or wherever you download podcasts. Welcome back. Carol Markowitz is in the studio. Rare treat.

It used to be common because he's going to be in New York, New York Post columnist and co-author of Stolen Youth. Carol, welcome back.

So nice to be out of here. I know. I wish New York was. Even though they tell us the stats are going down when it comes to crime and lack of punishment, nobody thinks that, as you know, we have 57,000 illegal immigrants a year. We're seeing crazy crime.

We saw an assassination four blocks from our office. First off, your thought. About this national story, as is a manhunt now for the killer of this healthcare CEO. It's unbelievable. That they haven't gotten him yet.

They have his face. I just, you know, I'm kind of surprised he's not already in custody, but I imagine that's coming. I keep seeing headlines that they're closing in on him. It's very interesting. It's also exposed a lot of people on the left who apparently root for assassinations of CEOs.

Taylor Lorenz, the Washington Post and New York Times ex-columnist, is very openly saying it's okay to shoot insurance executives because she doesn't like our health care system.

So that's been an eye-opener. And I hope that's a good question. I mean, how does she still have a job? Right, right, right.

Well, she doesn't, yeah, she's not working at any of those outlets anymore, but who is going to hire her after that? And why is that okay? Yeah. So, I mean, something could break during our show, but let's talk about the transition right now. And you mentioned first and foremost is Pete Hakeseth.

Last night and at the Patriot Awards, Donald Trump was there. I was able to say hello to him, talked to a lot of his staffers, and I said, How's Pete doing? He goes, Good. I go, He had a very good day today.

So, we're very, we're very much behind him. And sure enough, Trump put that truth social post out there. Your thoughts, Carol? I like it. I want Donald Trump to stand behind Pete Hegseth.

I want that nomination to at least come to a vote. I want to hear which Republicans will be on the record opposing Pete Hegseth. I think he's a fantastic nominee, and he would really turn the Pentagon around. I think he'd be great in that role.

So, if Republicans are saying they will only vote for Democratic nominees, I want to know why. And I want to know what makes Pete Hegseth so. Unpalatable to the menu. You mean like Mayorkas got through, Austin got through. And Tanji Brown.

You know, I want to hear why a man. Who doesn't know what a woman is? Right, exactly. And Pete Heckseth never said anything that dumb.

So I want to hear why those nominees were okay to pass, but Pete Heckseth is not. Here is Senator Joni Ernst, who could be part of the issue, Cut 15. It doesn't sound on your answer that you've gotten to a yes. If I'm wrong about that, correct me. And if that is the case, it sounds to me as if the hearing will be critical for his nomination.

Am I right about that? I think you are right. I think for a number of our senators, they want to make sure that any allegations have been cleared, and that's why we have to have a very thorough vetting process. And that's why I was happy to sit down with Pete and have that conversation with him yesterday.

So, what do you read between the lines? She's hedging there, obviously. But what they're hoping for is that the media forces him out and they won't have to make a decision. I think that's unacceptable. Their senators, that's their role to vote on the president's nominees.

And there's going to be other nominees. If they use all their bullets on Pete Hexeth, they can't keep voting down the Trump nominees. Tulsi Gabbard, Christy Noelle, who are you happy with? And by the way, who got who won, who improved in 49 out of 50 states and won every battleground state? Right.

And look, I'm saying they should be independent and pick who they want. For example, I don't love Trump's labor secretary pick. I think conservatives should take a good hard look at her. The failed congresswoman from Oregon. Yeah.

Well, yeah. And if Randy Weingarten and Elizabeth Warren are happy with her, I'm immediately unhappy with her.

So I'd like to hear more about her, for example.

So I'd like the senators to be independent. But tell us why and tell us what you oppose here. And don't just let the media push him out. I think that's really the thing: you cannot rely on the media. Who hates Donald Trump to get rid of his nominees for you?

If you don't like them, vote on that. Here's what President Trump said about the process so far: which the speed in which it's done, the press releases, everything is so organized, regardless. Like you said, you should be, you don't like the Labor Secretary, that's fine.

Somebody out there, a conservative, might not like Christian, that's fine. Have a debate about what they would do. Don't talk about what they did 14, 15 years ago through anonymous sources. Come on, aren't we past this? Cut 14.

We have the best energy people in the world all lined up to go. But I just want to say we're going to bring prices down. We're going to make our country safe. We're going to stop people from robbing our stores and hurting our people. We're going to, and we'll get involved with.

governors, including Democrat governors, because that's unfortunately, whether you like it or not, that's where the crime is. It's uh in virtually every case, it's with Democrat It's with Democrat run cities and states, and we're going to stop it. We're going to work with the governors and the mayors, even if they're Democrats, and we're going to get it down. And we're going to bring our country back, and it's going to be bigger and better and stronger than ever before. I love that.

I love it. I absolutely don't think we should be surrendering our cities to these Democrats who can't run them.

So I'd love to see Donald Trump put up a fight in all the blue areas to fix the blue areas. I love New York. I lived here my whole life until I could not live here anymore. And I would love to see Donald Trump bring back places like New York City. Carol Markwood is here from the New York Post.

So Mayor Eric Adams, who's got himself in a little bit of trouble. He is on Thursday going to meet with Tom Holman. The borders are. And he's talking about maybe loosening up the sanctuary cities, but we know the city council is going to ultimately decide that. And I saw Robert Holden, a moderate Democrat from Queens, come out and say: if Adams is serious, he will allow ICE back in the prisons.

There's so many things that Adams should be doing that he's not doing. Out of the Democrats in New York, Mayor Adams is one of the better ones for sure. But he's no moderate on immigration. He kept saying it's not the problem that being a sanctuary city, it's not the problem that these illegal immigrants are crossing our border and coming into his city. His problem was the federal government wasn't sending enough money.

That's not an a moderate. And we wouldn't let them work. Right, right. Yeah, you didn't didn't give a pass to just start working here.

So he's not a moderate. If he is going to moderate on it, and if Tom Holman is kind of Changing his sort of mind a little bit on it. That's great. I would welcome that. But let's see that in action.

Let's see him actually say the words. As opposed to the mayor of Chicago who says, I'm going to continue to protect illegal immigrants. And the governor says, you've got to come through me first. But African-American citizens in inner city Chicago are outraged. I saw 12 of them just rip this mayor and talk about the need to let Donald Trump do some work here.

Right. It's a bad situation. Look, again, I was a lifelong New Yorker. I've never seen kids on the street begging for money when I lived here. It wasn't like that.

People are like, oh, New York was always like that. No, it wasn't. We didn't have little children, you know, begging on the street alongside their parents who have a sign that say we are immigrants, we're migrants. That never happened. This is all a very new thing that's really occurred in the last four years under Joe Biden.

You know, Governor DeSantis, you know, President Trump. They're going to go to the, you said the Army-Navy game next week. That's right. They're going to be together. I love to see that.

I love to see reconciliation after the Prime Minister. Primary, we're all on one team. To see them together, it should be a really bright moment for the country. Are they friends again? I hope so.

I hope so. And if they're not friends, at least I'd love to see them have a cordial relationship.

Well, the other thing is, come on, after Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz, that was as personal as it got. And guess what? Ted Cruz needed Donald Trump to get him across the finish line in Texas, and Marco Rubio is going to be Secretary of State. Yeah, I love it. Stop taking our Floridians, but other than that, I'm a big fan of David.

I know. I feel bad for Byron Donalds. He would probably be the next senator, but I believe it's going to be Laura Trump. Do you? I don't know.

I really don't know. Yeah. I think that she does, and I think that they're going to discuss that next weekend. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

The young man in this case was going within our system, throughout the revolving door of our system.

Now, we're on the subway. Where we're hearing someone talking about hurting people, killing people, you have someone on that subway who was responding. Doing what we should have done as a city in a state of having a better mental health facility. Those passengers were afraid. Yeah, no kidding.

I wish he would have said that that strongly early on rather than say, well, that's my son's first name. You know, we, Jordan Neely, my son's name, Jordan. It could have been him on the subway. No, your son's not a crazy lunatic threatening to kill people or himself.

So it wouldn't have been your son. They just have the same first name.

Now he's going to bat for Danny Penny, who I understand got a call from President Trump over the weekend. I can't tell you how I know that, but I know it because he wants to express support and wanted to see how he was doing. I'm worried. I'm worried this has taken four days. And we'll go over what the jury has requested.

But first, let's bring in Andy McCarthy, Fox News contributor, former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York. And like me, was totally let down by the verdict with President Trump. And I'm afraid I'm going to be let down again here. Andy, are you worried for Danny Penny right now?

Well I'm most worried, Brian, that I think we're headed toward a hung jury and Given that it's Brad?

Well you have to worry that he would actually try this. Dog's breakfast of the case again. I'm not really that worried that he's going to get convicted, but I will say this. And I've written this at National Review a couple of times. I think Bragg did an old prosecutor's trick.

Here. In that Even if you, I want to preface this by saying, I don't think there's a case here, and I think it's disgraceful that it was brought in the first place. But if you're going to indulge the idea that there could be a homicide case here. It's no more than negligence. There's not anything real in the evidence that you could argue from.

That's anything more than the simple question: whether did he keep the hold too long, which is a negligence question. There's no evidence of recklessness. Recklessness is When you perceive a risk of death. And with an evil purpose. You take action that completely disregards the possibility.

The usual example is the guy who shoots a gun. into a crowd You know, he's not trying to kill any particular person, but he doesn't care that he's created a tremendous risk of death. There's nothing like that in this case, but Bragg. Added a recklessness charge. I think if this was just negligent homicide, which is the second count in the case.

That's like, if that was presented to the jury as a one-off, like up or down, yes or no, guilty or not guilty, I think he gets acquitted. What I'm worried about is he threw in this extra count. Figuring that there might be some jurors who think Neely died here, so something has to happen. And there might be other jurors who say.

Well, we don't like the idea of convicting. penny, but we'll acquit him on the recklessness and convict them on the negligence to show how reasonable we are. And the truth of the matter is, Bragg only needs one count to win the case, whereas If Penny beats one of the counts but gets convicted on the other ones, that's four years in prison for him. Potentially. That's not a win.

So I think what Bragg did here was throw in a count that I don't think is supported by the evidence in order to give jurors something to compromise on and make the likelihood of conviction harder. I don't higher, rather. I don't think it's going to work, but I think we should recognize that that's what he did. All right.

So the first note that the jury asked yesterday was the jury requested again to see the two bystander videos capturing the moments when Penny placed Neely in a chokehold. The jury requested one of the two bystander videos Wednesday and is allowing, and the judge is now allowing the jury to access a laptop with the video so they can watch the requested video over and over again if they want. The second note of that day requested the definitions of criminal negligence and recklessness.

So, if you were a defense attorney, or if you were the prosecutor, how would you read that?

Well, can I throw in one other note that they had? Because I think this is important and probably overlooked in a lot of the coverage. Most of the coverage is about. The law of justified use of force. and negligence.

That's what the case kind of comes down to. But I've always thought there's another interesting case here, point here, that I think the jury hopefully is seizing on. And that is they asked for some testimony from the medical examiner. who didn't ask for a toxicology report. And And um pennies.

lawyers on cross-examination, I thought, did a very effective job Showing that this was something that should have been. focused on and wasn't. The medical examiner basically said. She saw a bunch of the videos and Therefore, that convinced her that this was but death that was caused by the chokehold, and she didn't need to know how much drugs. nearly had in his system.

And I think the reason New York did that Is remembering the George Floyd case? There was a profound issue of causation. about whether The hold that the police had put on Floyd had killed him, versus whether all the drugs that were in his system, given his medical problems. I think the jury. You know, you don't even get to willfulness or negligence or any of that stuff unless you prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

caused the death of Neely. And what I think the jury may be focusing on is Is there reasonable doubt here? About whether it was the chokehold that did it versus all of the drugs that were in his system, that for some reason New York decided that they didn't need to examine. Or take any sock of or factor in. I think they intentionally didn't get a toxicology report.

To try to make this a stronger case.

So I hear Bragg, and you maybe you could define this for me legally, is now putting it out there that there's no mandatory with this case. There's no mandatory prison crime. As if to say, hey, just because he's guilty doesn't mean he's going to jail. What's he saying? Like, what is what is his objective here?

I think his objective is that there's a lot of reporting that says, look, if look, I just said it myself a couple of seconds ago, right? That if Penny gets convicted, he's looking at four years in prison.

So Most people who look at what Penny did here, which was I thought heroic, are horrified by the idea that that could land him in prison. And I think just for public relations purposes, what what Bragg is trying to say is, look, it's not four years in prison, it's zero to four years in prison, and the judge can fix the sentence at any Point there.

So he's trying to have it both ways. He's trying to appeal to his lunatic base. that sees everything in life as a racial incident, even though this wasn't one. And for that reason, he brought the case. But he knows there are a lot of people who are very angry about it.

And he's saying to them: look, it's not a big deal. The guy probably won't do a day in jail. Um There's a couple of things happening. Danny Penny posters plastered across New York subway cars, anti-Danny Penny po posters are out there. Also, we're seeing the protesters every day yell murderer as he walks in.

Alan Dershowitz has been seeing these developments and said there's Cut twenty four. There's a perversion out there in which people are cheering for the bad guys and attacking the good guys. And, you know, it's happening as well, I think, in the Penny case. There are people protesting. They want this guy convicted.

This guy is a hero. The villain of this piece is the district attorney of New York, who is sending a message to every train rider: don't intervene, don't become a good Samaritan, hide. Go away, but don't help anybody. Can you make sense of that? Or do I need a psychologist to figure that out what's going on here?

Well, obviously Alan is right and You know, this is why they've um They racialize it. You know, there was nothing racial about this incident, Brian, other than the happenstance that Neely was black. and Penny is white.

Some of the best witnesses in the case for Penny were black people on that train who were frightened to death of what Nealey was doing. One of which grabbed his arm, remember? One of which grabbed his arm. Mm-hmm. I was going to say that you don't see any aiding and abetting charge in this case.

Penny's charged alone, even though he was not the only one who intervened.

Some people who w uh helped him intervene, but those happened to be people of color.

So Bragg didn't Um Bring those people into it. And What is this crazy progressive prosecutor who's actually trying the case in court? She keeps referring to Penny as the white defendant. Hmm. Like, what does that have to do with anything in the case?

The only reason that's being brought, it's being said is because. Alan Bragg. was elected To District Attorney in Manhattan. By a small hardcore. Progressive base.

who sees everything in life that racism or racialism Is like their full field theory for explaining all phenomena in life. And they're going after Penny because he's a white guy and a black guy died. And by the way, if the rules were reversed, the case never gets brought. In fact, I mean, you could think of a lot of different combinations, but the only reason this case got brought, if this was a black Former Marine who intervened. When Neely was carrying on like he was, there's not a chance.

That Bragg ever brings this case. All right, a couple of things. If you're watching us now, listening to us now, you can watch us. If you're on the app, and Andy McCarthy's on Skype, number two is, can you imagine If the defense or prosecution steps saying the black victim, the black assailant, the black You go, what are you doing? Why can't.

the defense object to the judge and say, What does the color of his skin have anything to do with the bl the blind lady of justice? I mean, why why could not the defense attorney tell the judge to to object? Yeah, but Brian, we're looking at this in like uh Enlightenment type logic. Which used to be um the way of the west from you know, from the Middle Ages on. Uh That's not what's being taught in the schools.

The case is playing out like a hot, like a Howard Zinn. History textbook. We're What's going on is not reality. It's a racial morality play. where The bad guy is the white guy because he's the oppressor class.

And the guy who died is the good guy because even though he was the bad guy on the train, he's the oppressed class. And that's the way they're teaching people to look at the world this way.

So, what we're seeing in this case, if it frightens people and it angers people, and it should. That's what your kids are being taught in school. Rapid fire. How many viewers? Twelve.

Twelve jurors, if one says not guilty, I can't find, he's free. While they hang. And then it's up to Bragg whether you bring the tr the Case again. Double jeopardy doesn't kick in if there's a home jury. But do you call it a hung jury or do I mean, what do you need?

Do you need all d all the twelve jurors to say innocent? It's got to be unanimous one way or the other to decide the case. If they can't agree on a verdict, Then it's a home jury. Do you believe that Bragg on some level regrets bringing this case? I always think, Brian, this is very similar to the question that you would ask about the Trump case, which also was a terrible case.

I I think the thing you have to separate out with Bragg is Is it a good case in terms of like people like us will remember it as part of his legacy? But he's a political he's in an elected position. In a in a burrow, where notwithstanding what went on in the rest of the country, Kamala Harris beat Trump by sixty five points in Manhattan. This isn't bad for Bragg in Manhattan. It's terrible for the country.

It's terrible for New York. But it's not bad politically for Bragg in Manhattan. That's sad. It really is sad. And McCarthy, thanks so much.

And your prediction now? I get the sense, by the way, you started this segment. You believe we're heading towards a hung jury. Your prediction now? I do.

Okay. I really hope he gets acquitted, Brian, but but I I mean, it's already 18 hours. That's a long time to talk about a single transaction two-count case. Here you thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Thanks, Brian. He's the best. 1866-408-7669. Of course, if anything happens, we'll break in. Don't move.

It's Brian Killmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. Well, guys, earlier tonight they had the national Christmas tree lighting at the White House. Yeah, it was a fun night when President Biden came out.

All the kids were like, look, the ghost of Christmas past. But get this, after strong winds knocked last year's tree to the ground, this year's tree will be supported by eight steel cables. These are the same cables the White House uses to walk Biden around the front lawn. That's exact same. Same ones.

Meanwhile, during tonight's ceremony, the winds were over 40 miles an hour. Yeah, Biden's skin looked like when a bulldog sticks his head out of the car window. Pretty interesting, right? That is Jimmy F Uh Jimmy Fallon off the Tonight Show. I watched the monologue too.

Allison, you watched it, obviously. I watched in the morning. I don't know why, but I think my son started taping the tonight show.

So I thought, let me just see if they ever change. And I stopped for about a year and a half. But recently, I've been listening to the monologue to see if I change. Stephen Colbert has not changed. He can't.

Jimmy Kimmel can't change. He's absolutely insane. I mean, he's just way left-wing. He's as crazy as Bernie Sanders socialist. And you have Jimmy Fallon, who never is that political.

Who never was comfortable just killing Trump, if you ask me, I don't know him well, but just by people that do know him. And now he's using every opportunity to say, I mean, it's gutless and spineless. He does it now that he's going out. But you never, if Joe Biden was up for an election, if it was November 1st and the election was November 8th and he was still in it, he would not be doing this. But now that he is done, they're all calling him out as being old, decrepit, clueless, everything.

They really could have been doing this for two and a half years. But have you guys noticed the tone change? The tone change. I mean, I watched the Sunday shows last weekend, especially. And a lot of them were substitute hosts.

I got it. But still, they were actually questions to Republicans. Not why would anyone put Matt Gates up for any office. It wasn't like Matt Gates doesn't seem to have the resume to be successful there, and he's not even popular among Republicans.

So there was this condemnation just oozing out of every question for six, seven years. And everyone talks about Joe Scarborough and Miko Brzezinski putting their pride aside and showing how disingenuous they are, and going to Mar-a-Lago and saying, sorry for calling you racist, sexist, and misogynist, and criminal, and felon, and Hitler. Let's start fresh. I'm talking about subtle, subtle ways in which people covering Chuck Todd calling out Joe Biden, people just mentioning that Donald Trump's Truth Social post that said, if you do not release those hot shoes by the time I take office on january twentieth, they'll be held to pay. Normally, if it was twenty seventeen, they'd say, How unprecedential could Donald Trump be to put a truth social post like that when he's not even President yet?

Instead, this time, it's actually being greeted overseas in the Middle East amongst our allies as a breath of fresh air and for the hostage families They it's resonating. And you don't get widespread condemnation. And I don't know if they've had meetings or they just look at ratings or they just say, I looked at the election results, and we've been telling everybody this guy is unworthy, he's unseemly, he's unqualified, he's old, he's senile, everything. a criminal, a felon, were indicting him, Everything. And he ends up with more votes than he ever had before.

He ends up winning every single battleground state. He ends up making gains in every single minority category and did better in forty nine of fifty states overall while winning the popular vote. And then, when you get up in the morning, you say, How do I keep my job? Obviously, I don't have persuasion, but I can at least be interesting. And if I'm interesting, maybe people start listening to me again.

I don't know. They'd have to answer. I'm not changing. But maybe you notice it too. BrianKillme.com, let me know and I'll read those emails out loud because just while we're talking, I just got six emails.

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I come to you from 48th and 6th. Heard around the country, around the world. I mean, four blocks from here, they had the assassination of this healthcare CEO. They're still looking for the guy. I can't imagine you're going another day without finding him.

They got a picture of his face. They might have his burner phone, fingerprints, found a water. He threw out the Starbucks. I mean, it's unbelievable. We need to find answers for this.

But now, if you're the CEO of a major corporation, how could you not use some of your money or the corporation's money not to get private security? Tommy Laron at the bottom of the hour. She'll be in the studio fresh off the Patriot Awards last night. Thanks for everyone who came out on Long Island to beautiful Tilla Center on the campus of Long Island University. It was a great night to highlight first responders, average everyday people, very patriotic people in the University of North Carolina, heroes that saw an assailant get up in a church and try to assassinate a minister, and then one of the prisoners gets up and tackles him from behind when he had a loaded gun, things like that.

And of course, you had. You had some other great moments, including the former president of the United States coming out making his first major address since winning the presidency. Back. Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. The DA's office is reading the room, and they see how unpopular this case is and how ludicrous it has become. And so they're almost backpedaling now. And of course, if you're going to do that, you shouldn't have brought the case to begin with.

Right, Paul Morrow, four days, and I am worried, worried about the fate of Danny Penny in the New York City, his fate is in the hands of a New York City jury. Four days asking the judge multiple questions about what happened on that subway. By the way, that's what a hero does when strangers are in trouble and their fellow Americans. Instead, you try to put them in jail. I am embarrassed to be in New York City if they turn on Danny Penny here.

Number two. We're reacting to Donald Trump's, the reality of Trump 1.0. And his assertion of what he wants to do in the second round. His call for retribution and revenge is pretty clear. Trump proofing, what does that even mean?

As some Dem scramble to prepare for when Trump takes America back. But for many on the left, the days to marginalize this historic figure is over, and some want to work with him. Maybe that should be more than, maybe the governor should take note of that. Number To go willy-nilly and think you're just going to cut $2 trillion off something or $100 million off this and these ideas that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk have clearly are not founded in any bit of reality. What a clown.

This Democrat from Nevada, who's going to be the next senator there, Jackie Rosen, talking about the folly of trying to cut trillions out of our budget because we're $37 trillion in debt. They're talking about the efforts by Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk. Their budget-busting team brought their private sector game to Capitol Hill. And they made some progress already and getting a lot of attention and some Democratic support. I want to bring in Adam Boha for something different.

He's an incoming special presidential envoy for hostage affairs, and we got too many of them. Bo is also a founder and CEO of Rubicon Founders, an entrepreneurial healthcare investments. Bo was also one of the Abraham Accords negotiators, former Taliban negotiator, former senior Trump administration official, and they need him once again. Adam, welcome and congratulations. Mm-hmm.

Thanks so much, Brian. It's great to be on your show. I mean, first off, on the truth, the thing that comes to mind when you talk about hostage affairs, that is an agonizing situation. You're going to be dealing with the pain of families in America. You're going to deal with the terrorists holding them overseas in many cases.

Obstinate governments staring you down. Why would you put yourself in the middle of this? But I'll tell you something, I'm working now for the toughest president, not only the toughest president, probably the toughest man with the United States behind him in the world, and that's Donald Trump. And at the end of the day, the change that you'll see, and I hope everybody saw his post on True Social. I'm going to use his specific words.

which is there will be hell to pay if the hostages are not released, and I will help deliver that hell if that's what the President wants. Right. When that hell, does that mean he's going to put Navy SEALs on the ground? He's going to put Green Beret on the ground? We have lots of tools, but I will tell you, I don't know that you need force on the ground.

We have some of the best air UAV assets, or not some of the best in the world. And so the President will make that decision. But at the end of the day, that does not mean troops. I think the future of modern warfare and where we focus on is in the air, in space, technology related, and I think we're a leader there.

So we may not need a single person. How many hostages do we have, roughly, being held against their will? Across the country.

So there are about forty across the world that are technically that are known. I would also say that people play games with hostages. I'll tell you, there's close to two hundred in China. They're not all hostages, but what happens is they're not allowed to leave the country. They're not allowed to leave their home.

So it seems like a hostage to me. All right.

So we'll see where you go from there. I know Robert O'Brien did a great job on this, too. He ended up being national security advisors right after that.

So now the latest on Israel and Hamas, and that's where we have, I thought we had as many as six. You said we have three Americans known alive in Gaza? Yes, I mean, it's always hard to know how many are alive. I will tell you there are seven Americans, whether they're dead or alive there. And I really want to spotlight Uh an individual one uh Edon.

And he is somebody that grew up in New Jersey. He after college, he his whole life in the United States, after college, went to help out in Israel, he is one of the hostages and recorded a video to President Trump.

So we know he's alive. And that's the exactly the kind of and this is a This is one of ours. It's not acceptable.

So For example, I'm just looking now, and I know we're in between administrations, but Steve Witkoff is over, according to Fox News Digital, has confirmed that Steve Witkoff, tapped by Trump to be a diplomatic envoy to the Middle East, met with the Prime Minister Netyahoo and Qatari Prime Minister Ali Thani in late November to try to get the talks going again, to get our hostages out, and I know at least have a 60-day ceasefire. Have you been briefed on this? Yes, of course. The moment I got the role, I got a call from Bibi. I also got a call from Sheikh Mohammed.

And what you see here and what is being done actually, you only hear, of course, the differences all the time. People love to bring up differences. But here's what I will tell you about how President Trump's administration is working under his orders is I really I'm I don't care how it's done. I want them out. And I will say that everybody at senior levels.

Biden or not, any of these folks, they all agree they want them out.

Now, the big fee change here. because the Biden team has been trying to get them out. Of course, they have good intents. The problem with the Biden administration's approach is all talk, no action. And so what's fascinating is how much change there's been just since the election because people know that President Trump is coming in.

So Folks are over there. collaborating because we have the same goal, but the difference maker has been the election here.

So, where do you start? I mean, for example, they were in Qatar, and Qatar evidently threw out Hamas. And so they I guess they might have been in Turkey. Egypt, who served as a mediator in previous rounds of talks, is now pushing a new proposal for a sixty day pause. As I mentioned, Qatar has been at least the host, sometimes playing a role.

Like, where do you start? Like, does this get confusing to you to find out who the players are? It doesn't it's not confusing to me actually because they're the same players from when we did the Abraham Accords.

So, they're exact same people I've worked. They're people that I know very well. That makes it very easy and helpful for me. You know the goods, you know the bads, you know their tricks, everybody's got them. And so, that makes it really easy for me to go in and kind of know who I can rely on.

I will say, and the key. Of the Abraham Accords, the key of peace. was the present Its decision to kill also mine. President Trump made that decision and many Presidents before had the opportunity to do that. and passed because they were worried about it.

Uh it's like moving the embassy to Jerusalem, same thing. Everybody says it, everybody's afraid. Not this president.

So when he did that, He showed through force that we went that we meant business. Uh and that Created peace. That's peace through strength. I think it's a perfect example of it. And so, You start with the same people, but you give them different messages than they've been hearing this entire administration.

Just pass them. See, the other thing that you know better than most, Adam Bowler, and now that you're doing this hostage thing. is how you get the hostages out. Often leads to how many hostages are taken afterwards. And if you go ahead and write that check and you give everything they want, it's great to get everybody back.

We got an American home. But don't be surprised if you get up the next day, and instead of two being gone, five are gone. Because it proves that taking hostages pays. How does that factor into your negotiation? massively.

I mean, the Biden administration chose to write a check A lot of money. for people in Iran to be released. Yeah. Every single American. should celebrate when an American is released.

But that is a big problem. Am I going to tell you something? Nobody takes Russian hostages. It's very rare. And that's because they know what happens afterward and what Russia does.

Now, I'm not suggesting we. Do what Russia does. But I am suggesting that there needs to be a cost. And when you pay, That's a real problem. And right now, for example, We, the United States, Americans are being held by the Taliban.

They're not advertised. Nobody talks about this. I think about it all. I mean, you can't not think about it. You can't not think about it with the families.

And yet What they want is a a trade. One for one.

Well, I'm sorry. That's not how it's going to go. We're the strongest military force. you're gonna you're gonna let him out or as the President as President Trump says. they'll be held to pay.

And if they want to test it, They can test President Trump people have, and they get blown up. Couple of things. How many in the Taliban, how many Americans do they have or American affiliates or dual citizens do they have? Number one. Number two is there's reports that we're paying, the Biden administration is paying Afghanistan on a regular basis aid.

And I have no idea why. It is amazing. how many people that we prop up. how much money we put. without asking for anything.

Yes. There are countries. that we support. that go to the UN and complain about the United States and vote against us all the time. And this is the people you hear people Talking about President Trump, what does he mean?

What does this mean? all we are talking about. is accountability. It's accountability. If we're allies, we're going to hold you accountable.

If you want to take People? If the Taliban wants to take people, We're going to hold you accountable. And there are many ways to hold you accountable. I mean, we're the. The United States is the most powerful nation in the world.

Let's start acting like it. Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. But then but then the way we left is just so unbelievable, and I know it must be maddening because you were talking to the Taliban. And maddening.

So I was I had a chance to talk to some of the higher ups in Qatar. And I would just it would bring me inside some of these negotiations. You could dispel them if they want. And they said that the Taliban weren't interested in taking over the country. They knew that they are radioactive with most Western nations in terms of getting aid.

And they wanted to do the coalition. If nothing else, they wanted aid to continue to flow in and didn't want the responsibility that goes along with governing. And it was the utter collapse and corruption of Ghani, who hopped in a helicopter with our money that we've never asked back to held him accountable for, that allowed this epic collapse that we still can't shake. When I negotiated with the Taliban, maybe I went where you went, I went to our base. and Qatar, because that's where the senior guys were.

And you see The United States has a massive base concutter. People don't know that either. I went. And I went to the cuttery side to meet the towel there. And It's not that difficult of a negotiation.

It's a tribal it's it's what you might expect. Um but at least they're direct. and you can have a conversation. And I also negotiated with the Ghani Afghan government, which was a Nef. impossible to negotiate with forty people in the negotiating room disarray because you had an academic that was more interested in taking money out.

By the way, this is why this is what happens in the Palestinian Authority. Talk about the worst person. He's taken billions out and his kids It's like rackets if you don't pay them. It's like mafia rackets, basically. And so until you get some of these people out, you can't do anything.

And the collapse Some people say, oh, it's because we were talking to the Taliban about peace.

Well, I would say Anybody's Democrat, Republican, whether you love or hate Donald Trump. There's no way. that Donald Trump Yeah. to retreat like that, to repeat a Vietnam. Never.

I think everyone believes that. I hear you, Adam. Lastly, you have also a health care expertise. You've had a lot of success in that in that part of the economy. You knew Brian Thompson, who was just executed a few blocks from here three days ago?

Yeah, I know Brian fairly well. Um He's he's an he was a Minnesota Boy that started out at United, and really worked his way up. And some folks don't know this actually. He's not the CEO of the whole company. United has an insurance arm, and then it has something called Optum.

And so that rolls up into another United. That's why it's confusing. United Brian was probably the Front runner for the next job when the real CEO at some point, you know, he was kind of the succession plan. And I will tell you, he's got. Yes, Sam is young, he's a young guy.

Bye. And a real talent. And I texted them when I had, I mean, it's like, you know, we lost a shining star, and it was obviously shocking. Hopefully, we'll get an answer to what's behind this killing, although there's never any excuse. Adam, thanks so much.

Congratulations. We look forward to talking to you along the way. Thanks so much, Brian. Thanks, guys. You got it.

Listen, we come back. I'll take your calls. Then Tommy Lahren joins us in studio. Keep in mind, One Nation coming up Saturday night at nine o'clock. You cho, Matt Taibbi, Mike Gallagher, Michael Waltz, and so much more.

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The case against Hunter Biden was really politically motivated, but I also think it's true that the trial in New York for Trump, that was political as well, too.

Now, is that in both cases, I think a pardon is appropriate. And I really think collectively, you know, America's confidence in these kinds of institutions have been damaged by these kinds of cases. That is Senator John Fetterman. Every day I go, I'm probably going to take that soundbite. Every day I go, okay, that's good.

I mean, on every issue, he seems to make a lot of sense more by the day and book. I don't remember him even before his stroke being this moderate. I remember j him being interviewed after Trump's first victory when they talked about him being a former mayor and things to that nature and he's so different looking. I remember him. He never seemed to be moderate.

But now I think his party's gotten so far left, he feels compelled to be a rational human being. I'm just looking, I'm looking at Gavin Newsom. He's talking about standing up for undocumented, they're illegals. Number two, San Diego mayor. comes out and says we have helped the city council pledges not to work with ice.

Really? Not even prisoners. You will not have access to our prisoners. Which are illegal aliens who obviously have a problem with crime. Why would you protect them?

And Charlemagne, the God, and other people have to sit around and say to yourself, why are we going to run on this? We make being illegal and a criminal cool again? We like to keep our people and our citizens in trouble constantly by American criminals as well as international criminals who don't belong here. Where's the bumper sticker on that? Tommy Laron will make sense of it, she promises.

From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmeade. But he didn't have to volunteer that lie to begin with. I'm gonna stop you for a second. Uh-oh. Only because you don't know that it was a lie.

We don't know why he changed it. You really think he just changed his mind over Thanksgiving weekend all the time? No, I'm gonna tell you. At some point, you get to the place where you just go.

So I'm just gonna Follow the straight and narrow always. Because that's what's expected of Democrats. But that's their fault. They're the ones that go out there and they stand on this moral high ground. Democrats are not a monolith.

Why can't you say when Democrats are wrong?

So, Charlemagne the God's doing with Center Fetterman's doing, and some other Democrats are doing not enough. And just saying, Why, guys, snap out of it. Joe Biden just lied to you again. Our party's in tatters. Can we stop covering for terrible politicians?

Whoopi Goldberg didn't get the message, but it looks like Charlemagne the God did, not a politician, but an impactful morning show host who's got a podcast network. Tommy Laren, talk about impact. She has it, host of Outkicks. Tommy Laron is fearless, Fox News contributor, and more importantly, going to be on One Nation this weekend. Don't ask me how I know that.

I know. I got to see you last night at the Patriot Ors.

Now we're doing radio. Then we'll do One Nation.

So I've got all my Brian. I see Brian almost as much as Fox viewers see Brian. Wow, I think it might be too much. A lot of people would bail out on the third helping. Your thought about Charlemagne going on.

The view in saying that.

So, Charlemagne, to me, represents what is a much larger demographic, and that is black men who decided and realized in this last election that maybe they weren't going to vote for Trump, but they weren't going to vote for Kamala.

So, that's an interesting group of people.

Now, it's going to be up to Republicans to actually get them to vote Republican, but not voting for Kamala was enough, in my opinion, to swing some races or some states closer to Trump. But he's a realist, and I don't understand what stake the ladies of the view have in continuing to cover for Joe Biden. The rest of the people. Where do they go, though, Tommy? They have nowhere to go.

The rest of his party is throwing him out the window on the curb like trash. The rest of the party is going to distance themselves from Joe Biden. They already did it when they picked Kamala, but now with the pardon, they are all ambitious for 2028. It's going to be a feeding frenzy for that party. Nobody's going to want to attach themselves to Joe or Kamala.

Those ladies, though, they don't get it. They're the last to know.

So, did you see Gavin Newsom, your former governor, walk out of a meeting with his council or? His state congress, and he said, Yeah, I'm going to get $80 million. We've got to fight back and make ourselves Trump-proof. And then he said, This, cut 17. We're reacting to Donald Trump's, the reality of Trump 1.0 and his assertion of what he wants to do in the second round.

I think it requires us to be diligent, to focus, yes, on what happened in the past, but prepare for Trump 2.0 where his rhetoric is only heightened. And his call for retribution and revenge is pretty clear. And anyone who's not paying attention, I think, is doing so at their own peril. So he's buried in debt. He wants to put more money to Trump-proof himself, which is make sure the Illegal immigrants are protected.

The homeless population continues to get funded. Taxes remain high. We continue our green technology, banning or reducing access to oil and gas, not drilling. I mean, what are you looking to protect? Where's the threat there?

Right. Well, Gavin Newsom obviously wants to run in 2028, so he's already setting himself up to be like the Republican crusader. But he thinks that translates to the rest of America because he doesn't get out of Sacramento very often. But it doesn't translate to the rest of America. Kamala couldn't relate to the rest of America.

Gavin certainly can't relate to the rest of America. You have a budget shortfall. You just buy what is reported a $9 million mansion that's outside of your area, by the way, because you wanted your kids to go to a better school. He doesn't connect with average Americans at all. But California is going to continue to be a failed state so long as they keep electing people like Gavin.

He's got national ambitions. He's waiting for his opportunity. And right now, he's just building the groundwork. But it doesn't translate outside of bubbles in LA, bubbles in San Francisco, and bubbles in Sacramento.

So we just saw a shot of him in California in front of the wall and talking about how it's overstated the damage. Illegal immigration isn't a problem. And then San Diego, as I just told our listeners, just voted their city council to not give. ICE access to their prisons or to their illegal aliens to follow up on leads and crack down on crime. Living in California.

I know I'm looking to you for rationality, but you lived out there. I did, which is why there's the only reason I can understand it because California, it's like a different world. Yes, you can find your conservative areas in Orange County and other places where they're great. It used to be San Diego, I thought. Yes, San Diego used to be because of the military.

That's changed. San Diego has become basically LA now with the homeless and the drugs. It's become that way. But in California, the legal immigrant population is so baked in that it's popular to defend illegal immigrants. I don't know who's making money off of which workers, where.

That's probably a big part of it, but it has a lot to do with the culture of California. They love illegal immigration.

So I watched, I think it was Martha Radditz, did a feature about the illegal immigrants for years who have been picking the berries and working the farms, who have families there, and they make up 40% of the labor force. And when asked, these farmers who don't look like they're looking to break the law, he goes, I can't get anyone. He goes, what if you paid more? They still won't come. These are the people that.

Do it. They don't complain. They work hard and we pay them. But it's got to be off the books because there's so that's, I think, a separate situation. That's probably the last group that the Trump team touches.

But we're talking about criminals first, overstaying the visas second. And we looked at what happened in California in the guy who was sending ammunition to North Korea from Ontario. He should have been out of here in 2012, a Chinese student who thought, why don't I stay? Pulled over a couple of times for speeding or doing some things, and they still let him go. The number of Chinese nationals, by the way, that have come through that border is staggering.

What are they doing? There's been a lot of reporting as well about illegal marijuana grows. What's going on there? Why are the Chinese coming? We don't know.

But this policy of Gavin Newsom and Democrats just let everybody in and we'll vet them after they commit a crime and we still won't turn over to ICE. That's so California, it hurts. And that's why people are leaving California. That's why I left in 2020. I mean, you think that was the worst it could get with COVID, the lockdowns?

No, it's gotten worse since then.

So I don't mean to give Charlemagne too much of a plug, but here's another example of a guy on the air and just saying, what are you doing, Gavin Newsom, cut 18? I do wonder what that means: the trump-proof of state. Like, how do you trump-proof? A state in America. Like, what happens when you need the president of the United States of America for something?

You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I don't. I don't quite understand what that means. Make it about the policies, because when you say things like Trump proof, you're going to end up looking like a hypocrite when, you know, y you you need the president for something and you all in his face smiling and cheesing the same way, you know, President Biden was after they called him a threat to democracy and all of these other things, and then you know he was like, Welcome back. you know, when it came time for the White House, when he came so it's like, cut it out.

So, voice of logic. He could not get over the fact that Joe Biden welcomed with all smiles Donald Trump in the way. He goes, I thought he was a fascist. I thought he was Hitler. I thought this is the end of democracy.

I thought this is the last election. How could you be shaking his hand? And again, he sits there and says, Practically, what are you doing? Do you know at some point you're going to have a fire that's out of control? You're going to have a mudslide.

You're going to have a hurricane. You're going to have a drought. You're going to need some help. What are you thinking? This happened before.

This happened during the first Trump administration, and Gavin had to cozy up to Donald Trump. And we remember back during the primary when Gavin was debating Ron DeSantis, he actually had some more friendly things to say about Donald Trump.

So, this is all about Gavin getting ready for 2028. California is going to need the federal government. He's right now grandstanding for attention because there's nothing Gavin loves more than the sound of his own voice. If he could be on Fox News three times a day, like you, Brian, he would be. I promise you.

He does watch. Do you get that sense? He does watch. He does know the storylines. And I think he loves to see himself in our commentaries and on our air.

I know from observing Gavin living in California, Gavin follows me on Twitter, so he's a fan of the things I say about him. But Gavin loves to be noticed and recognized. And he wants to tell the world, hey, don't forget about me, come 2028, because he's going to have a couple of years where he's going to be, you know, waiting for that opportunity.

So he's trying to make sure that he sucks all the year out of the room and cements his spot in the dead. Democrat Party.

So I was talking to some of the.

Some of the Trump people that showed up last night, and they said one of their main focuses, and I caught me by surprise because I never thought that that mattered that much to them. They said we have to get a new generation of Republicans running for office. And that's the focus of why the president is shooting for people in their 30s and 40s to work for him, including the vice president. Have you sensed that? Because evidently Reagan did the same thing.

You know, now it's like young, but I think 67 when he started. And he said everybody working for him was young. Peggy Noonan was talking about, I was in my 20s, and now she's in her 60s or 70s, and she's an esteemed speechwriter, but she had 50 years of seeing Reagan in retrospect and living it. Do you get the sense that it suddenly matters to Trump? It has to.

We need a new generation. Trump understands that he can't run again.

So, as much as people want to say he's never going to leave, he knows he's going to leave. He knows he needs to leave this party in the hands of capable people, and he doesn't want it to go back to the days of Romney and McCain. He wants to make sure that the mega movement lives on. That's his legacy.

So, he needs young people to carry the torch. And whether that's JD Vance or Ron DeSantis or any number of these young people coming up, we do need young talent. And I think that he's cultivating that because he made it cool to be a Republican again. We saw it last night at the Patriot Awards with the Chapel Hill frat boys that held up the flag and got their award for that. There is a resurgence of this on college campuses where it's cool now not to be the green-haired, you know, Palestinian flag waiver.

It's actually cool to just be someone who loves your country and maybe looks and dresses normal. Right. And I think that's going to be the focus to try to get some big and cool to be conservative. And they say that's happening in Canada. And they say, you know, for a while it was cool to be Trudeau and do yoga and pretend you didn't know what a gender was or a pronoun is.

And they say, now there's nothing that could be further from what they want. And they evidently have 43% of the young vote to conservatives in Canada. And a lot of times that is the bellwether, not the bellwether, I would say the canary in the coal mine for America. Right. Well, I think woke overplayed its hand.

And that's what really happened with this last election. People were all in on the love and the tolerance of 2020 and BLM and George Floyd and all of this. And then it just got ridiculous. It got wild. It was, okay, now there's quite a few men competing against women.

Now the woke has gotten to such an extreme where they're making up pronouns for people. And you could be a furry animal if you want. And everyone has to respect that. The left overplayed their hand. People started realizing it got a little too weird for them.

They would have just dialed back their weird a little bit. They probably could have skated by, but woke got so weird that people had to swing the other way. And that's inspirational for me. I have a story. I'm not sure it helps the show enough, but can I share it with you?

Sure. I have a friend of mine opened up a health club. probably ten years ago. You know what he named it? Woke ink And he's not, but at one point being woke was cool.

It's like cool ink. And he said suddenly he realized nobody would wear his stuff. And he's like, what's going on? He goes, nobody wants to be known as woke. It's almost sarcastic.

Like, if he's really, you're woke, you're going to admit it. Just goes to show you how that word has been abused.

Well, we finally took back a word because the left has been taking all of our words and finally with woke. I think that's the best example of us taking back the word and saying, you know, you guys thought this was supposed to be some battle cry for what they said was diversity and tolerance and justice.

Well, actually, it was just everything that's truly weird, and that's woke. And we took that word back to what it actually means. And we took it from the left. They usually do it to us.

So I enjoy it. Do you know what failed? Remember when Joe Biden went out there in Philadelphia with the red behind him and he said, MAGA Republicans, MAGA Republicans? Republicans said to themselves, okay. Yeah, so they're MAGA Republic.

They even like the category. They sell stuff for it. And the attempt to label somebody, they embrace the label, they use it for marketing, and they just won an election.

So they must be sitting there going, How did that happen? Or, Joe, but who told Joe Biden to do that? Right. Or call us garbage or deplorables. I mean, all of those things.

But now, people, I mean, we see it all the time now. People, I'm garbage. I'm deplorable garbage because we're taking back those words. You want to call us all these things? That's fine.

We realize how ridiculous it is. The joke is on you. The right has also taken back humor, by the way. And this has been going on for a few years, but I think we're right now we're at our peak of taking back humor. And the joke's on them because they're all crying and screaming at the sky.

And we're happy, we're enjoying ourselves. We're not cutting our hair off. It's a good time to be a Republican. The funniest is the adaption is let's go, Brandon. In retrospect, that will be the funniest thing ever done in derision, sarcastically, to any candidate, in my view.

When we come back a little bit more, Tommy Laron. Tommy, are you one outnumbered today? I am. You are. You ready for that?

Are you worried that I might be too taxing for you? I was hoping that you would be on the couch, Brian, but they have to give you a little break. They do. But we're going to be taping our show. It's going to be Saturday at 9 o'clock with Tommy Laron's going to be there.

Tommy, you've got a few more minutes. She's a host of Outkick. You've got to check her out. And the name of the show is Tommy Laren is Fearless, and she is. Don't move.

Educating, entertaining, enlightening. You're with Brian Kilmead. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. So I got another question for you.

Do you recognize this photo? Yes, sir, I do. Is that uh the remembrance of September eleventh? It was. Was it in New York?

It was at ground zero. Yeah. Who is usually at an event like this closest to the President of the United States? Security-wise. The sack of the detail.

Special agent in charge of the detail. Were you the special agent in charge of the detail that day? Actually, Let me address this. Could you please, staff, leave that? Oh, no, leave that one up with the circle around me.

Thank you.

So actually Congressman, what you're not seeing is the sack of the detail off out of the picture's view. And that is the day where we remember The more than 3,000 people that have died on 9-11. I actually responded to Ground Zero. I was there going through the ashes of the World Trade Center. I was there at Fresh Kills.

Do you know where this is heading? Wow.

So here we go. Ronald Rowe wants to stay onto the Secret Service, you would assume. He took over and he wants to show that he's on the b job as they go over what went wrong in Butler. and that is Congressman Pat Fallon. Who here he is, the Texan.

Here he's now, this gets ramped up a little bit.

So, Fallon wants to know why you're doing there to be seen with both presidents, with Trump, with Biden. Mayor Bloomberg, why are you in that shot? You should be running this event. You should be doing secret service. You shouldn't be making this a photo op.

So, listen, cut 28. I'm not asking you that. I'm not asking you. How do you work? To show respect for a sickle service that died on 9-11.

Do not invoke 9-11 for political purposes. You have not. I'm invoking this. You are, sir. You are out of Corman.

I'd go back to ask him a question. Please. You are all trying.

So he said you got to follow up and then he went ballistic. Your thoughts.

Well listen, I I love to watch reality television and with each passing day it seems like we're getting more reality television out of Washington, D.C.

So I enjoy it for entertainment purposes. I'm not so sure what the American people got out of that, but I think it's a point to be made. I mean, why are you trying to get a photo op? Are you just trying to give the appearance that you're taking this seriously so people see you? Maybe that makes them feel more comfortable.

Maybe that's your rationale behind it. Is you want to be a forward-facing person that shows accountability. Maybe that's the motivation. But again, when you get that angry, it sounds like maybe there's something there. I have two things with this, Tommy.

Number one, Pat Fallon wasn't in charge then, but the other person that was in charge, that woman, When she came out and was asked, he said the ceiling was too sloped, you couldn't get anyone up there. It was a flat out line.

So then she goes and testifies and won't answer any questions. And they tell her to step aside. She goes, Fine. This is a story there. Why did she step aside?

Why did she sarcastically answer those questions? Why did she get a pass? President almost gotten killed, or was that the objective? Jill put her there, and Jill got all the The other two is I feel like this is January 6th. You can't tell me anything new about this.

I want to know about the assassin. Mm-hmm. Why don't we know anything about the assassin? And who is he? Why are people curious?

No, that's not his job. The Secret Service is not to investigate that after. That's the FBI. That's another reason why Chris Fury has to be done. Why don't we know as much about him as we do Lee Harvey Oswald?

Yeah, we know relatively nothing about Thomas Crookes, and we haven't heard a whole lot about the second assassin either that was caught at Mar-a-Lago trying to take a shot at the president from the bushes of a golf club. We know very little, but yet, when somebody who maybe fits the narrative that the left would like to explore more, we know everything, we know every detail. I'm still waiting for the Nashville Trans Shooters Manifesto. We don't know that. Why are some people protected by this FBI and this DOJ?

And why are some people, their whole lives, are just exploited for fodder for our curiosity, but others are protected? You know, it makes you wonder. The master of the rhetorical question. Thank you, Tommy. We're going to watch you on outnumbered.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. All right, thanks so much for being here all week long as we finish out this week as strong as possible. Quick reminder: don't forget to watch One Nation Saturday night at 9 o'clock. And for WOKV listeners, especially, but around Florida, I'm going to be in February 15th.

I'm going to be doing History Liberty Laughs on stage Florida Theater. It's going to be the biggest venue we've played at. I think we could sell it out.

So let's do it: BrianKillmead.com. If you love this country, if you want to be inspired and motivated, show up. And you want to have a good time. Shannon Bream is standing by. Kurt Cameron's coming on.

And of course, Uh you. 1866-408-7669. So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. The DA's office is reading the room and they see how unpopular this case is and how ludicrous it has become. And so they're almost backpedaling now. And of course, if you're going to do that, you shouldn't have brought the case to begin with.

Yes, that is true, Paul Morrow. Four days. I am worried. Worried that the fate of Danny Penny in the New York City deliberations is continuing. The guy should have been exonerated by now.

They keep asking questions, does the jury. Come on, 12 people. What does it take to understand that Danny Penny is a hero? I'm losing faith. Number two.

We're reacting to Donald Trump's, the reality of Trump 1.0 and his assertion of what he wants to do in the second round. His call for retribution and revenge is pretty clear. Really? Trump-proofing. What does that even mean?

Gavin Newsom thinks he knows. We'll discuss it. Number one. To go willy-nilly and think you're just going to cut two trillion dollars off something or one hundred million off this and these ideas that Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk have clearly are not founded in any bit of reality. Unbelievable.

Jackie Rose is the future senator of Nevada, talking as a congresswoman, Doge on Fire. The Must Vivek budget busting team brought their private sector game to Capitol Hill, and it's clear they are not here for headlines. They are worried about America's bottom line, and so are most of us, according to almost every survey.

So be open to changing things. People get panicky, and they say they're going to cut Social Security. They're going to cut Medicare. They're going to cut unemployment. No, they're going to cut, first and foremost.

maybe get into systems, how it's done. How many you have, maybe it's too labor intensive. Maybe there's software that can bring them forward they don't have access to that two of the leading minds in the country would because they've done it in so many different ways. Where if you fail, you go out of business as opposed to you keep your job regardless. Let's bring in Shannon Bremanker of Fox News Sunday.

She's Fox News legal analyst too. You've been a busy week, Shannon. First off, have you decided what's going to be on your Sunday show? We have I'm actually at the Reagan Library in Simi Valley, California for the Reagan National Defense Forum.

So it's going to be a big focus on defense.

So, you know, not only sort of the legacy of what the Biden administration has done, what they're leaving to the Trump administration, but what he's going to do on day one.

So we've got a lot of interesting folks to talk to, and we're going to tape a lot of that today and be live for you on Sunday.

So, would you do this? We need to expand our military-industrial base, Shannon. We need to be able to make more ships quicker, more efficiently. We need these companies competing against each other. They thought it was counterproductive, but in retrospect, that was a mistake.

It diminished our capabilities to quickly ramp up in case of a threat, which we have. Yeah, we've got a lot of threats in a lot of different fields and places and countries and regions, and they're all over the world. And that's something that Trump's going to have to walk into and pick up where the Biden administration left off. The Reagan National Defense Forum always does this survey, too, and they ask Americans all kinds of questions. And to your point about defense spending and being ready to go, there are real doubts.

Americans, I mean, 50%, it's like a 50-50 cut, don't think that if we went into a head-to-head war with China, that we would win. And I mean, across party lines, people in the survey say that they think we need to be doing a lot more defense spending, and we're going to have to figure that out in conjunction with the national debt. But they think it's time for us to rev up, not go backwards.

So a couple of things. While we're talking about defense, it's clear President Trump is doubling down on Pete Hagseth. I did speak to somebody last night very close to Trump, and that person told me that things look great after you're much better after yesterday, and they're going to fight to the end just to get into the nomination process, and then he could take it from there. What have you heard? Yeah, I mean, gosh, it's one of those things that goes back and forth so quickly because, you know, the longer these things linger and the more stuff that comes up and the more objections and the more conversations and headlines, usually that's not good for the nominee.

But it does seem like today there's sort of kind of some fresh wind at his back. Yet again, you've got Trump out there publicly backing him and defending him. And you've got a number of senators coming out of these meetings saying, hey, he answered my top questions. I feel good about this. I think everybody really, really is keyed on on someone like, you know, Joni Ernst.

She's a former combat veteran herself. She's a survivor of sexual assault. And she said she had a very frank and thorough conversation with Pete. And I just think he's going to have to keep working at it and see if they can pull those votes together. What?

They can lose three. JD Vance, of course, once his vice president would be a tiebreaker.

So it may be very tight. Yeah, it may be tight. But then you have Christy Noam. It's going to be RFK. It's going to be Tulsi Gabbard.

And, of course, Cash Patel eventually. And now we're going to see. I mean, the person that's going to float through is Marco Rubio. And Doug Bergham. I don't think there's any doubt about it.

But the other ones will be harder. And I get the feeling. You know how people always talked about: well, you have political capital and you don't want to spend it here? For some reason, I just don't think that applies to this team. I think it said President puts it out there.

I don't think it reflects badly on him. Yeah, he's coming in hot because we know, and we all talk about this. When he came in in 2016, he had no real concept, I think, of what he was facing when you walk into the buzzsaw that is Washington and things that are entrenched there and people who are entrenched, whether they're in your party or not in your party. I mean, now he comes in with a much better equipping of experience, of knowledge, of knowing, listen, I've only got four years and being very, you know, strident about what he wants to get accomplished and who he needs to do that.

So he seems like, yeah, you know, when you win the popular vote by more than 4 million and you have 312 electoral votes, he feels like you've got a lot of capital to expend at this point, and he's going to do it. Yeah, I guess so. We know this: there's going to be a crypto czar and there's going to be a AI czar, and it's going to be, I think it's going to be. Dave, is it David Katz that's going to be doing this? David Sachs.

David Sachs is going to be doing it. David Sachs is, of course, one of the founders of PayPal. He's got a lot of friends in Silicon Valley.

Now, keep in mind, Mark Zuckerberg has already visited. Elon Moss basically lives there.

So they had to have signed off on this, and he's best friends with Vice President to be Vance.

So I'm wondering, this is going to be cutting edge for a 78-year-old. I think there's going to be a lot of pressure on Sachs to help define the parameters with people he really cut his teeth with. If his objective is pure, it's genius. If he wants to enrich himself more, it could be tough because he knows more than the chief executive and just about everybody else on this. Yeah, what I think is really interesting is that we've covered this over the last several months and a couple of years.

More conservative, kind of libertarian voices within the tech world, kind of in the past, you know, they may quietly make a donation here or there, host a fundraiser or here or there, but they were very reticent to publicly get out there and be supportive of something that was viewed as conservative or Republican. But they've come out of the woodwork. A lot of these people have said, listen, if we're going to be dealing with government regulation, we want a voice at the table. And for some of them, like the Peter Thiels of the world, I mean, these are big dollar people in the tech world who said, I'm no longer, you know, going to stay in the shadows about my political leanings, and I'm going to come out here and talk about supporting President Trump or conservative ideas. And so that's really been, I think, a big change within that particular industry.

So the other big story in New York and around the country is what's happened with Danny Penny, the Marine, that stood up admirably in my view. But some reason, this 12-member jury has not come up with a verdict yet, four days in. Here's Paul Morrow, cut 25. Yeah. From hearing.

On the side through some of my sourcing, that the DA's office is actually putting out the notion that if there is a guilty conviction here, a guilty verdict, that there may not be a carceral sentence for Daniel Penny. And I think what that is potentially is that the DA's office is reading the room and they see how unpopular this case is and how ludicrous it has become. And so they're almost backpedaling now. And of course, if you're going to do that, you shouldn't have brought the case to begin with. So they're talking about diminishing the penalty before a verdict.

Who does that benefit? What message is that? Is that to the public, or do they expect the jury to be able to pick this up? No, and that's the thing. I mean, the jury is dealing with very specific jury instructions, which give them all the details and the parameters and the boundaries for what they can be deciding and how they discuss and decide this case.

So to me, I think Paul's right. It feels like it's more an answer to public pressure and the optics of this because we've also covered the cases of people like shop holders and owners who are like defending themselves against somebody, you know, trying to slash them with a knife or doing something like that. And they're the ones who end up getting charged. I think, you know, Bragg has had a lot of focus on letting people out, people who've done dangerous things. And then the fact that you would go to the wall on Daniel Penny, I think for a lot of people, it just rings so strange to them.

So if you're already out there saying, like, all right, even if the jury does convict, maybe we don't send him to jail. I think that Paul's right. I think they know how badly this reads in the public conversation. We watched the uprising in Chicago with the people of Chicago rising up at a town hall and just ripping their mayor for not getting rid of sanctuary cities and being giving all the taxpayer dollars. To legal aliens.

And now we watch the mayor of New York City push back and say, I will meet with Tom Homan next Thursday. That's what I thought was going to be the prevailing opinion. But instead, we got the Denver mayor, we got the mayor of San Diego, we got the governor and mayor in Illinois and Chicago, all pushing back and trying to trump proof themselves. How long will that last?

Well, I think until federal money starts drying up, if it's possible to actually cut off some of the federal money, which is billions, if not trillions of dollars that flows into states and localities, they need it for all kinds of things that whether it's infrastructure or law enforcement, those kinds of things. But you've heard some of the incoming Trump folks or folks who hope to get nominated and confirmed and get into the incoming administration say, listen, there are levers of federal money that they can turn off in Washington to be states and localities if they don't want to participate And You know, not only not doing anything over and above, but just enforcing the current law. If you're going to oppose enforcement of current federal law, maybe you don't get federal money. I hear you. Shannon, you've had to do the Supreme Court.

You got these legal cases. You got your own show on Sunday. You're doing the defense forum. I saw you. Were you hosting today between 9 and 11?

I did. I did. I did America's News Room from right here at Simi Valley. Unbelievable. And you still work by the hour, so this is going to be a boon to your situation.

I am cracking it up. Listen, I'm pulling a Brian Kilmean today. That's what I'm doing. Do you get it? I'm living up to you.

So, by the way, you've got a show on Saturday night, which I'll be seeing and doing and using a show prep in the middle of all these other things. Until I see sound bites, I can only take your word for it on your show. Matt Taibbi is going to be on. We are going to have Mike Gallagher is going to be on. I know you just interviewed him, by the way.

Mike Waltz is going to be on. Tommy Lehren will be with us.

Sounds like an A-list one. I think so, too. All I have to do is start it up and get out of the way.

Well, I mean, you know, you're an expert at that, but I do want to see more of your house band and your dancing as promised. Wait a second, this just came through. Jury deadlocked on the manslaughter count in the Subway Chokehold trial. What does that mean?

Well, if they're deadlocked, then it ends up, you know, the DA will have to decide whether they want to retry this case. I mean, usually what happens is the judge will send them back and say, we need you to keep deliberating, go at it for a few more hours or whatever. Most judges, a lot of times in a case like this, will send them back and tell the jury to give it another try.

So whether the judge does that or not, if it remains deadlocked, it'll be up to the DA to see if they want to recharge the case or retry the case. But why wouldn't they just say hung jury? Because the final verdict is not hung in? Because they have not handled the verdict in. They just feel as though they can't come to even a.

Even a home jury decision? Yeah, if they're saying, like, basically, we're locked at this point. Again, that's where the judge often will send them back and say, you know, I'm giving you this charge essentially that tells you you've got a duty as a jury. Remember what your instructions were, give it another try. I'll be surprised if the judge doesn't do that in this case.

Today.

Well, listen, it's Friday and we know that juries they tend to make decisions on Fridays.

So whether he immediately sends them back in or says, all right, take a breakfast or lunch break or something and then you'll get back in there, I'll be surprised if he doesn't tell them to take another swing at it. Yeah. You better not take you better do your show live because this show is developing. Thanks so much. I appreciate it, Shannon.

Got it. And then Sunday. Absolutely. You got it. Your call is next.

1866-408-7669. We just went over it. The jury is unable to reach a unanimous decision on the manslaughter charge. Against Jordan Ely.

So now we'll see what the judge wants to do. We'll give you the latest. Don't move. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis because, man, do you need to know? It's Brian Kilmead.

The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmead. The problem is, it appeared as if we were in support of the existing democracy that is like not working for anybody in this country. It has just been used to protect elites, cultural and economic elites, for the past two decades. When I first got involved in politics, one of the most important things Democrats stood for was government reform, campaign finance reform, getting lobbyist money out of politics, ethics reform. That's like number 9, 10, 11 on our list these days.

We have to be attacking institutions, the institutions that people hate. And one of them is the existing version of democracy. The only way you preserve democracy is by reforming it. And that is Senator Christopher Murphy, semi-open, while still being put down, put downish of President Trump's douche team, DOSH team, who are talking about getting efficiency into government. They see the key word is efficiency, because efficiency could be anything.

It doesn't mean fire, it doesn't mean condense, it doesn't mean shrink. It means make things more efficient, more effective. And as I mentioned, this is what these guys are known for: how do we get the maximum service, sales, essentially? That's with their products. How do we do that in the most efficient way possible?

Because the more money you save in production, the more profit for your shareholders who are responsible for. Instead of your shareholders being people that want Tesla stock, how about your shareholders being the American people? And they buy in when they agree to get a job and pay taxes. That's going to be their approach. And yesterday, for people that understand and were paying attention, that's exactly what they were doing on Capitol Hill.

This is so much bigger and more effective, and potentially more effective than I thought, as they know. They don't have budgets. They don't have absolute authority, but they can make recommendations and they're extremely popular. And they're not known as extremely partisan, especially when it comes to Elon Musk. He says he never, up until Trump this time, voted for a Republican before.

That's how unlikely it is.

So the Doge Act, which is officially legislation that Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee is putting out, will freeze federal hiring. It's interesting. Begin the process to relocate agencies out of the DC swamp.

Sometimes you do that because it's cheaper, because it's easy to rent a big building, get much more for your money the further you move away from big cities. And you might leave people behind who say to themselves, I'm not going to relocate. I'll take the package. I'm going to leave. These are also differently cost-cutting measures.

And there's a lot of things. I did not know this. Do you know only 6% of civil service workers have been back in work? 6%.

So if you come down with a mandate and said, I need 100% of people in work five days a week, you will thin. The workforce that way, and they want to work out a reward system. How about this? It seems like an American institute, it seems like the American way. How about rewarding people that are doing a great job and not rewarding people that aren't?

That's a little bit of the free market principles into the civil service. And that's what I think they're really encouraged about. They have some allies: Ro Kahana on the left, Jared Moskowitz on the left, looks like Senator Fetterman on the left, and Bernie Sanders for a completely different reason. They will go after the Pentagon, and this is what I'm encouraged by. They're going to make it more efficient while increasing the spending, and to make it more efficient, to maybe thin the herd just a little bit, and find a way to get quick yeses to important projects in a timely way as the threats mount around the globe.

I think it'll be fantastic. And if you look at some of the people involved in helping out Vivek and Elon Musk, they got government contracts, which means they understand as an outside vendor how frustrating it can be dealing with the government. And they also hear confessions from government representatives who say, Yeah, I wish things would move quicker, but here's my frustration.

Now they got power to expose that frustration, and the president's got the pen in the executive order to follow through on it. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Our next recipient went from growing pains to growing backlash. Acker and Arthur.

Kirk Cameron was met with protests and resistance when he tried to read his new Christian-focused children's book at the same liberal libraries that let drag queens read to your kids. But Cameron did not back down. Instead, he fought for the future of our children. And he started a nationwide patriotic revival at libraries across the country. Please welcome this year's Culture Warrior Award Kirk Cameron.

And there he is. Kirk Cameron got the award last night at the Patriot Awards. It was at Tillis Center, Long Island University. That was the great Tyrus and Martha McCallum paired for the first time for a special reason to give Kirk Cameron that Culture Warrior Award for this year.

So for the last six years, we've had the Patriot Awards. And Kirk, you get the Culture Warrior Award. How cool was that? It was so cool. And your mom was there.

And my mom was there. That's right. I thought it would be so cool to come to New York with my mom. She's from New Jersey. And so we hung out in Long Island.

Today we're in the city with you. And this has been a beautiful weekend. And it's been inspiring. I don't know about you, Brian, but last night. Was so?

Inspiring. It was so full of hope and so full of like a bright future here in America. Like, like the bad guys. Like they tripped and faceplanted. They didn't think.

They didn't see it coming. And now, all of a sudden, there's this fresh breeze of opportunity and optimism and liberty to do what we have been wanting to do for a long time. And I'm excited.

So last night, the Fox Weather Award went to the Ultimate Patriot, went to General Dick Cody. What he did in Times of Strife. Patriot of the Year is this guy named, how do you say it, Donald J. Trump, got the patriotism? Yes, yeah, I said the award for bravery, Clarence McCows.

He's a good dancer. You see him dancing? Oh, yeah, last night, the dance. He's copying those NFL players in the end zone now. I'm not sure that's the way it went, but let me talk to a third party.

I'm not sure who did that person. I mean, how long ago was it when they were all taking a knee because he was president? And now they're saluting him after a big tackle or touchdown with his dance. Is that almost surreal to you? To think that this is a short time ago?

Well, it is. Culturally speaking, yes. Yeah. That, I hope, is a reminder to all of us that the tide can turn, things can change, the wind shifts directions. And I believe that we saw.

What I call a move of God, of mercy. that gives us an opportunity to do what we should have been doing for a long time. And I think it's a result of the prayers and the persistence of so many Americans and patriots out there. And it was exemplified by The boss himself, with that God-given tenacity and strength. I mean, talk about no quit.

Holy cow. I mean, he just and he worked every what, 72 straight days. He went right through the tape, did multiple events in a single day. And the problem with for her for his opponent is she did a lot of thinking and strategizing. Didn't do a lot of appearances.

Thought it would be great to go to Texas and Houston to try to help out a Senate candidate in the final minutes. Like some of the tactics they did at the end, but ultimately her message was zero. And I was surprised, Kirk, and maybe you weren't, how many celebrities put it on the line for her? I mean, Chris Rock, Bruce Springsteen, you had Taylor Swift, you had Beyonce. I mean, you don't get any bigger than this.

Will Farrell, they just came out in droves. And what are they thinking today? Yeah. Yeah. Where where must they think about their influence and power in society?

Yeah, it's gotta it's gotta be a a giant blow to to their ego, right? Um, but it's it's like a David and Goliath story. And uh It just gets me so excited, and I want people to recognize and see what actually happened. That when good people step up and they step out and they say, okay, enough, and God shows kindness and opens the windows of heaven like that, I think that this blessing also comes with a huge responsibility. And that is, we need to do the work now.

We need to till the soil, plant the seeds of what is good and right and true, and we need to water that stuff with our time, energy, and sacrifice. And that's what the Patriot Awards last night with Fox Nation was all about. It was about everyday unsung heroes who are doing that kind of work. Right. And we were talking about a few years ago when it first started was how many statues were coming down.

We were talking about 216-19 project being number one bestseller and that it was part of the curriculum in schools. Yeah. How much did that worried me extensively? Because if you start not liking the country, you start rattling the foundation. Do you think that was the intent?

The foundation of our country was. Beginning to crack apart by letting people know where we came from, not so great. 100%. That is absolutely the strategy. If I was the devil, if I were trying to be a destroyer of liberty, if I were a globalist who hated nationalism and people who wanted to see the sovereignty of America crumble, yeah, you get to the kids and you play the long game.

By rattling the foundations, erasing their memory of the past, rewriting the story so that they are on your side from before they can remember. And they say Hey, this is it's you know, and the young people want a revolution. Uh, they want to be a part of a cause bigger than themselves that they believe is a reformation, revolution to what is better. And they think, because they've been told, that that's socialism, communism, Marxism. You could probably relate to this: in that, how do you tell people how great you have it?

If you work for something, you come from nowhere and you achieve great heights, you fully understand what it took and how lucky you were to get there. But if you already grew up to your great fortune on third base and never been struck out, how do you teach someone that it's not your fault that you're on third base, but how do you give them a sense of how they got there and how to appreciate it? And I feel like in America, you're born on third base with a big lead off third, and all you have to do is take a few steps and you're going home, and there's a lack of appreciation. Oh man, that's such a great way to describe it. I think that's exactly right.

You're really good at this. You're really why you have to do your own radio show. But that's exactly right. And I don't think you can just give that to somebody, a sense of genuine gratitude. You know, you go over to my mom spends time going over to Africa and feeding kids there.

And they have this amazing sense of gratitude for everything. You know, their church services are out in the dirt, barefoot, and they've got the biggest smiles, singing the loudest, most appreciative, and they don't even have, you know, running water and making it. Running water. And then you come here to a place like this, and people are like, yeah, whatever. Right.

I know. And that's why you get a lot of first-generation Americans who thought it was great. I said this story one time. I got picked up to do a speech in Pennsylvania. It was a small town speech, and a guy picked me up and he was dressed all in a great suit and everything.

He was talking to me. And he said, you know, I came here from India. You know, I had big hopes. I was studying to be a scientist over there, but I had to get out. There was no future.

And I'm here. And, you know, I thought I would be able to do more. I don't know how we got into this conversation.

So when I got back in the car, I came back. I go, what were we saying? And he started telling me the story. I go, wait a second.

So you've been for how long you've been here? I go, 25 years. I go, you have kids? He goes, yes. I go, one's in Indianapolis, one's at West Point.

Yeah, and what's going on afterwards, they want to be engineers and they want to do that. I go, but that is the American dream. You come over, you establish yourself. The next generation does better, and the next generation does better than that. I go to see you're doing it.

You know, so I just think that people, the first generation, come over, and every day, for the most part, they understand how they got the opportunity to start. Hopefully, you did better than your parents and appreciate where you came from. How many times do you hear the first generation story and you hear, well, my dad had a seventh-grade education, my mom had an eighth grade? That was the turn of the 20th century. That was the deal.

And then all of a sudden, the standards rise, you get to a certain level, and people look around and say, I want more. But if they go where your mom went, they say more is shoes. You know, that's right. Moorish shelter. That's right.

Moorish socks, food. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. That's and that's such an important lesson because, uh, like you said, we've been born on third base, and so we think we feel entitled to get everything.

And then, on top of it, you know, a great Marxist-communist strategy is to control the media and tell everybody you're entitled to not just third base, but a home run for crying out and be jealous of the person that has it. They must have stolen it. And they must be the enemy because they're trying to take it from you. No, if you go all the way back, let's go back to the pilgrims. They came, and guess what?

They had the American dream and they believed it. And they almost died. They landed in the middle of the winter, no help. And half of them died the very first winter. Ultimately, none of them ever saw what it is that they came here for.

Ultimately, but they said, you know what? If we can put our face down in the mud in the middle of winter and blow bubbles underwater and die so that our backs become stepping stones for our children to realize the dream, we've succeeded.

So tell me about the book Adventures. With Iggy and Mr. Kirk and why you wrote it. It's a kid's book for families, foundational. Close.

So I wrote some kids' books, but those books have now morphed into an entire television series called Adventures with Iggy and Mr. Kirk.

So it's a TV show for families and kids, and it's all about me raising a little five-year-old, adorable green iguana. He's a puppet from the guy who did the puppets on Sesame Street. Right. And I think we have a clip. Let's listen.

You are family, you are loved, and you are mine. Really? Absolutely. Iggy, ever since the moment your dad asked me to raise you and take you in, you have been part of our family. You always have been, and nothing can ever change that.

God made each one of us different for a reason, and it's our differences that make us special. Because God doesn't make mistakes. I guess that means that God didn't make a mistake with me. He made a work of art with you. I'd say a true one-of-a-kind masterpiece.

So, how many episodes? We have 20 episodes wrapped, ready to go, two seasons, and we're looking for a home. We're looking for a home for this brand new show, which is a modernized version of Mr. Rogers Meets Sesame Street. Wholesome values, parents can trust it.

It's faith-forward, and man, I would love to see some kind of a. Kind of a home at maybe Fox Nation. I don't know. Right. Well, I mean, you were on Fox Nation yesterday.

You couldn't use that opportunity. Yeah, that's that that's all over the country 'cause parents are desperate for this. Right. And did you d what were you watching? What were your kids watching?

Do you remember? Yeah, when our kids grew up, w we actually put them in front of uh I Love Lucy. Over and over and over and over. And we put them in front of like Little House on the Prairie. And we put them in front of the Waltons.

I mean, these are the kinds of shows that I grew up with. And man, we love them. Right. Oh, those were great shows. I mean, even in syndication, they're still great shows.

They would still hold up today. But for you personally, do you want anybody out there to get into your industry that you were in? Any of your six kids, any of your grandkids? Seven?

So, six kids. We have a real diverse family. We adopted four of our six children. And so we've got singers, we've got tech guys, we've got athletes, we've got singers, you know, poets and actors. And so I'm hoping that they all pursue the gifts that God's given them.

And I want to nourish all of that so that it flourishes. If they get into acting, great. It's a dangerous place to be in Hollywood. I mean, do you want your kids to turn out like some of those Hollywood stars? No.

But we need people in those places of leadership and influence. And so we pray for them and we support them. All right, Kirk. Congratulations on the award. Thank you.

Great to meet you, Mom. Thanks. All right.

And best of luck with this TV series. You always go to Fox Nation. It's on the 21st floor. You go tell them about your series. It's called Adventures with Iggy and Mr.

Kirk.

Thanks, Kirk. Thank you.

Go get them. Brian Killmee Cho. Back with more to know in just a moment. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmade.

Hey, we are back. And by the way, don't forget to watch One Nation coming up Saturday night at 9 o'clock, date early, Eastern Time. Date early or date late, but just don't miss the show on DBR if you have to run. But I'm just thinking to myself, I want to check this box. I want to make sure you need to know more.

More. To know. All right, don't ask me to write a check for this, but this is what it's worth. LeBron and Bronnie James's jerseys from opening night are sell for $100,000. The package was made available at Sauterby's with both team items believed to have been worn when the Lakers played the Timberload.

I believe they got to authenticate this. While it's unclear if Bronny wore the jersey during the three minutes he logged against the Wolves, it was photo matched to the second half of the contest, as well as the media day and other game-ins. Do you believe that he is refused? He went to the G-League. He's got to get better.

He never should have won pro, in my view. But now, when they tell me G to go to the G League, which is like the triple-A of basketball, he says, yeah, I'll do it. But I'm only gonna do it for home games. I won't travel with this team. Is that insane?

That is horrifying. I mean Is that really the reputation? He already has it as like the Nepo baby and now to have a bad attitude. It's like he doesn't care. I mean, he averaged two points with USC, went pro, and got drafted by the Lakers because his dad's good.

Next, the NFL will now find players $15,000 if they post about their random drug tests on social media. The SOA policy includes a number of changes, making the testing more lenient, such as increasing the positive THC levels from 150 nanograms to 350. Evidently, they're slowly admitting that everyone's smoking pot now. Additionally, the league medical director may test players for fentanyl. There's no punishment for a positive test, but a player is subject to a fine.

Across the league, it's common for a player to be randomly selected for a drug test. In the NFL and other sports leagues, the notification has become an informal badge of honor. Really? Next, the least debatable generation out of their Gen Z has found a new matchmaking method. Facebook dating.

The social media app has seen a surge in the number of daily conversations on the dating platform for users between 18 and 29. That's so unbelievable because nobody young seems to be on Facebook. And the service has a high return on investment with 72% of likes. More than half of the young adult users faithfully return to the app. 55% of women and 56% of men return to the app each month, which means they like the people on there.

You're not dating anymore, right? Not that I can say on the air, you know, with my husband listening. Right, but you know people that are single your age. Younger? Not that I've heard of yet.

Next, Facebook fans outraged his Eras Tour book. They have a book out. It's selling an eye-popping amount in the first week, despite being littered with mistakes, selling more than 814,000 copies. They're earning the biggest publishing launch of the year. Almost immediately after purchasing the book, Swifty's began to post about the amount of spelling errors, grammatical errors, blurry pictures, and upside-down pages.

The Swifties even took to TikTok to complain. Once again, with her, it's never about the quality of talent. This book, Riddle with Errors, it's a fitting reflection of her career. It says trash, which I guess is an acronym, but commercially successful. Your thoughts?

Who's the publisher that all these mistakes, you know? Made it in the end. I don't know. Eric, would you get on that? Is Enron back?

23 years after the company dissolved into oblivion in the wake of one of the great accounting scandals of the modern age, the company, more likely someone pretending to be the company, has created a website issuing a press release. The global energy crisis, then again, maybe it'd just be open to sell some t-shirts. According to CNN, the company that owns the Enron trademark is the college company. The brains behind the birds aren't real mock conspiracy theory. What are you talking about?

What do you think? I mean, I think it's definitely interesting. Like, someone would buy it, and I guess what they're trying to make t-shirts, possibly.

Okay, we'll go on this later. Belgian prostitutes will receive full employment rights, including maternity leave, social security, and pensions, under a new law that went into effect on December 1st. This will cover and regulate working hours and remuneration, including prostitutes working part-time as casual workers while studying in higher education.

So, how do you get paid to work casual if you're a prostitute? I'm not sure, but I mean, this has always been your stance, right? The prostitutes need all working benefits. Yeah, I mean, if you could offer, and it goes back to that documentary, Night Shift, which was produced by Ron Howard and starred Henry Winkler, where he stumbled into being a pimp and handling prostitutes, but making sure they had dental and a pension plan and housing. Belgium, Belgium might be ahead of the curve here.

There's a quote from Sophie: she had to even work when she was nine months pregnant. I know. They paid? They did, but she was still working. Not in this new Belgian proposal.

She would have workers come. And maternity leave. From the Fox News Podcasts Network, in these ever-changing times, you can rely on Fox News for hourly updates for the very latest news and information on your time. Listen and download now at FoxNewsPodcast.com or wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music with your Prime membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

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