Harris has beers with Colbert as Milton bears down on Florida

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmee. Hi everyone, thanks so much for being here, Brian Kill Me Joe. We have a lot going on today. This hour we're going to be joined by Brett Baer and Congressman Jody Arrington, House Budget Committee Chair.

We're also trying to get some money to see about the series of storms and who's going to be paying for them. Suddenly we realized HHS Secretary came out out of nowhere two weeks ago and said, yeah, we're out of money.

Okay. We'll see. And he's also calling on Congress to come back. Don't think he has that type of power. He certainly doesn't have the respect from Republicans in the House.

So before we get to Brett, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. No, think about it. He thinks Vladimir Putin is his friend. What about the American people?

They should be your first friend. But if Donald Trump, even if it's true, look, is there something wrong with speaking to world leaders? Here he goes again. Bob Woodward, a new tell-all book, is out with revelations, creating quite an uproar from Putin to Trump to Biden to Obama to. I don't know what it's about, Harris.

If true, a lot of nerves will be rubbed raw. Number two. Would you have done something differently than President Biden? During the past four years? There is Don a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact.

Uh really?

Okay, that's a bit of a surprise. The Harris Media blitz continues, and her boss Biden, who attempted to rally his base when he was in trouble, she seems to be doing the same thing and creating problems with her lack of answers, inability to display knowledge, and handle issues.

Meanwhile, Trump's battleground blitz of his own barrels through the Midwest, two stops in Pennsylvania. Number How confident are you that FEMA will have what it needs to take care of impacted Americans moving forward? Very, very confident. We have demonstrated that in response to Hurricane Haleem with an extraordinary breadth of resources. There you go.

That's HHS Secretary Mayorkis Milton. A massive hurricane. Expected to slam the west coast of Florida any hour now, maybe a little bit later on this afternoon, early evening. It'll happen today. Two weeks ago, Helene did the same.

How has the federal and state governments responded? And could this be the October surprise of a natural phenomenon? With me right now is Brett Baer. Brett, a lot of people you know are in Florida. You have a house in Florida.

How worried should people be? Yes, I think it's serious. I mean, we've seen storms. This is a big one. It's going to probably lose a little steam wind wise before it hits, but it's really the storm surge.

And if You know, with Senator Rubio, who said that he had a briefing years ago. by Hurricane Center and FEMA, you know, what's their worst case scenario? And it's actually hitting into that Tampa area because of the low-lying areas.

So it looks like it's jogging a little south. I've got a mom in Naples. I've got a lot of friends in Naples. And some of them are hunkering down. And I think they're going to, you know, they got to just be careful because this is a big one.

It is. And we'll continue to watch it. And of course, we're monitoring it all over. We've got Fox Weather. I want to talk about something I didn't think I was talking about.

I didn't think he was working on another book, but Bob Woodward comes out with a book, at which time it says, Um Biden has a lot of friction with Netanyahu, calls him a liar, tells him not to go into Lebanon. He does. Ask him what the game planned. He said Netanyahu would only say, I'm going into Rafa. He said, that's not a good strategy.

He's upset by that. And he goes on to say that, according to Bob Woodward, he blames Obama for the problems in Ukraine. He said he underestimated Vladimir Putin, let him take Crimea and didn't really prepare for it, and let him build up intelligence and do what he did. I've never heard Biden really go at Obama, but this is going to be tough to shake. Yeah, I mean, he's not wrong there.

I mean, i i there's a lot of foreign policy experts who say how that was handled and, you know, d drawing a red line and then kind of letting Crimea go. Um Was not the right way to do it. Obviously, Vice President Biden was in that administration when it happened, but it is interesting to see. That he's blaming President Obama. Obviously, there's other things in that book that are drawing raising a lot of eyebrows, including this allegation that the President Trump gave COVID testing machines to Vladimir Putin and that he's talked to him seven times since leaving the Presidency.

That's something that the Trump campaign and the Trump folks uh say is not true. Um but It's, you know, you add all of this stuff up, and there are nuggets in here that Bob Woodward. Gets in a Bob Woodward way, that I'm sure is going to cause a stir in some way or another. Yeah, they say it's one Trump staffer. Who remains anonymous that said he called about seven times.

In terms of the Obama says, says, we blanked up in 2014. That's why we're here. We blanked it up. Barack never took Putin seriously. We did nothing.

We gave Putin a license to continue.

Well, I'm revoking that license. They also said they got pristine intelligence, even from somebody on the inside, that the invasion was going to take place. And that makes it worse, Brett. If you knew the invasion was going to take place and you didn't rush to get weapons in to defend themselves, you just got them a ride to get out famously. Yeah, it does.

I mean, and that is like almost a month's heads up, according to the Intel officials there in that book. And since then, we found out that they did have a lot of heads up. And if you look at the slow roll to get stuff over there, that's where a lot of the criticism comes from, that Ukraine lost a step or two, but yet was still able to hold Kyiv and to push Russia back. Yeah, and just lastly on foreign policy, Netanyahu going into Lebanon, having an incredible amount of success, and now the. The President saying over the weekend he had no plans to talk to him.

It looks like they will talk today. But man, these guys are not on the same page, and Vice President Harris seems to have a lot of animus towards him. I think that's affecting policy because in case she wins, he knows things are never going to be the same. And the Prime Minister is not going anywhere in Israel right now. His popularity is on the rise.

It is on the rise, and that's a big turn of fortunes. They have had a string of military successes. And yes, it's cold, it's icy between President Biden and also it seems Vice President Harris and B.B. Netanyahu, that question about is the Prime Minister an ally, obviously you can read between the lines in Vice President Harris's answer. I do think that um you know because of the US-Israel ties that That they'll have to deal with each other, but I don't think that the Israelis are telling the U.S.

as much as they've told us before. And there are some moves that'll be surprises, and one of them may be the next strike on Iran in response.

Well, we know that's coming. I think even the G7 said they all agreed there should be one. I want to bring you somewhere else, Brad. In CBS, this guy, Tony DeCoppa, I've never met him. I have the morning show that.

Yeah, I've I've never uh but he had, I thought, a great exchange. With this author, Taisi Coates. And he's out and he's talking about basically from the Palestinian point of view, and basically Israel doesn't belong where they are, and they basically are the problem.

So he, I thought. Took him on. Cut 36. Tan Hashi, I want to dive into the Israel-Palestine section of the book. It's the largest section of the book.

And I have to say, when I read the book, I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away, the content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist. And so then I found myself wondering. Why does Tanahashi Coates, who I've known for a long time, read his work for a long time, very Talented, smart guy, leave out so much. Why leave out that Israel is surrounded by countries that want to eliminate it? Why leave out that Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it?

Why not detail anything over the first and the second intifada, the cafe bombings, the bus bombings, the little kids blown to bits? And is it because You just don't believe that Israel in any condition Has a right to exist.

Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined There is no shortage of that perspective in American media. That's the first thing I would say. Um I am most concerned always with those who don't have a voice, with those who don't have the ability to talk. Um I have asked repeatedly in my interviews whether there is a single network. mainstream organization.

in America. with a Palestinian American bureau chief or correspondent who actually has a voice to articulate their part of the world.

So he goes on, he goes back and forth, and it was an intellectual conversation. I thought, oh, that was interesting.

Well, there's a massive fallout. They say that doesn't reach CBS standards in some sections. Then they have other people sticking up for them. The ad a terrible, I guess, addressing of the staff. What's your take on what we understand about this meltdown at CBS?

Yeah. It just seems very strange. And um it seems like uh executives stepping in Uh in an interview that arguably was just Pushing back on another side, like we all do in questions. You know, devil's advocate, playing the other side, asking the other question. Jane Crawford, um stood up and said the Supreme Court reporter pushed back.

And obviously these audio tapes of this meeting came out, which made the story a little bit bigger, how he did something last night on it. I I think It's just really telling about the state of media and the sensitivity that. This issue of Israel-Palestine, Palestinians causes. Right. I just thought, you know, doesn't that make it better for the book, for the author?

The author wasn't defensive. It's made him defend his point of view. He was very calm. He didn't get emotional.

So here is CBS's Chief League correspondent. I'm just going to play a little of this, Cut 41. It sounds like we We're calling out one of our anchors. in a somewhat public setting on this call. for failing to meet editorial standards.

Um I'm not even sure what. I don't understand how Tony's interview or any of his comments that he's made with Anchors. Fail to meet our editorial standards that obviously go back to the days of Murrow and Cronkite. And they basically tried to get a psychologist in there to address the staff. I've never seen such an overcompensation on an interview.

I mean, do you think it's the topic that they're tone or the fact that he's black? I don't know. The author came out and said that he was fine at the conversation. But they were going to bring in this DEI expert who then had his own issues and called. Senator Tim Scott, Uncle Tim, in some writings, and then had other things.

So they canceled that guy. And, you know, they had this meeting. I think, yeah, I think it's very strange. And for CBS in the middle of all of this to be doing that is kind of weird.

Now, on the plus side, I think Bill Whitaker did a nice job on his interview with 60 Minutes and Vice President Harris.

So they had pluses and minuses this week. What's your take on the edit? I mean, they put out a promo and she's wrestling with his answer. And then they seem to clean up her answer for the final edit on the piece that aired. Yeah.

No, listen, I've n I've not seen an answer within thirty seconds that was edited four times. And if you look at the digital you know, they put stuff online, it's a it's really a completely different answer. She looks a lot better, obviously, in the edited answer than she does in the what takes a meandering time. I understand editing for time, but Four edits in a thirty-second soundbite? It's really quite something.

Trump just they photo to me as true social. He's outraged by it, but doesn't this back up his opinion that their bias against him? I watched the Leslie Stoll interview. She was totally unfamiliar with the fact that the laptop, there might be a chance it's not real, or that his campaign was spied on. She was clueless about that, or she was intentionally clueless about that.

Why would he go back on there? And this edit to make her look better just backs up his move. They wouldn't be treated fairly. I don't think anybody thinks he's afraid of a hard interview, Brett. Yes, I agree.

He could do a couple more, I'm sure, but he's been out and about. The Leslie Stahl thing, she kept on calling it disinformation or it can't be verified. And obviously, Scott Kelly, as he did that setup, didn't acknowledge any of that.

So here's what Harris said. About Biden stepping down, and see if you know what I picked up, they don't ask, Cut 15. By President Biden stepping down, and basically. handing you a nomination. You didn't have to go through a primary process.

You didn't have to fight off other contenders. That's not really the way our system was intended to work. President Biden made a decision that I think history is going to show. is Rare. Among leaders?

which was to put country before self. And I am proud to have earned The support? Of the vast majority of delegates, and to have been elected the Democratic nominee. I am proud to have received the endorsement of leaders around this country from every background and walk of life.

So that's not really interesting. And that is, when did you know that his faculties were so diminished Yeah. He could not be president. Yes. Or that he could not be the nominee.

When did you know, and how did you know it? And why didn't you say something? you know, I don't know, some questioning down that road. about all the meetings she had, once a week at least. with a President who clearly had diminished capabilities on the trail.

But don't you think there are networks out there, Brett, that will not admit to that? They will not say that we don't know. They won't admit. They love that he left, that he left the race. But they won't say why.

Yeah, no, it's true. And look at the New York Times with this big piece about former President Trump's. Mental, you know, questions about his mental capacity and is he slipping? Yet there was no massive piece about Biden in that. Newspaper.

And so it's really You know, listen, we always talk about this through the prism of what if it was the other way, um, but it is pretty stunning to to Day to day, we have more and more examples of that. Yeah, it's hard to put the prism down. We're always picking up the prism. Hey, Brett, you're going to have a long day, I know.

So, and also, your History Club book is out on paperback, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the um kids' book and uh it's Really, it's done well. A lot of kids, uh, you know, seven to fourteen years old, and you sneak in a little history there. It's uh, it's out on paperback and should be.

Should be a fun read for folks. Got it. Brett Baird, talk to you soon. Thanks so much. We come back.

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So, we're looking at this storm, but we're also looking at a media blitz by Kamala Harris. I'm talking about Colbert, I'm talking about Howard Stern, I'm talking about 60 Minutes, I'm talking about a podcast that comes out of nowhere. I'm just amazed about what she's doing. To me, there's only one reason why she's doing this. The only reason why would a risk-adverse candidate who thought they were a risk-adverse candidate avoid Press conferences.

Any unscripted tough interview outside 60 minutes now, that makes one. The other interview that they might have been challenging Dana Bash on CBS, you did with their vice presidential nominee, and that they couldn't land a glove on her because not one real question was really asked. Why would she do that? It has to be because the numbers they're showing, what they're seeing from their focus groups and their internals, is that she's trailing. That's the only thing I could say.

And what they're doing is they're trying to make him unserious, unworthy, unhinged. The country comes to an end. That's what the theme is. If you watch the surrogates as much as her, but even more, the surrogates, that's what they're trying to say. They're not talking about economic.

They're not talking about immigration. They're not even talking abortion as much as they're, he is not worthy. They're scared he's going to win. Really scared he's gonna win. And believe me, there's nothing that she did last night and through all these interviews.

And including the view, forgot about the view, that's going to help her fortunes. Congressman Jody Arrington. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. Goal number one of the strategic plan for FEMA is to instill equity as a foundation of emergency management.

It's a really important part of my vision when I came into the agency, and I'm happy to see how it's evolved through the development of our strategic plan. By creating this diverse workforce, it is incredibly important to better represent the communities that we're helping.

So I thought that was pretty unbelievable. Deanne Criswell, who's running FEMA right now, her number one strategic goal when she took the job in 2022 is to instill equity at the foundation of emergency management. Really? I want to make sure a bisexual Indian of Pakistani descent ends up coming to save me as opposed to somebody really qualified. I mean, that whole attitude is starting to reverse itself.

But when you see her on the ground and late and defensive, when people are asked where they are, and when she was asked, where is FEMA? People can't find him. He said, just because you can't see us doesn't mean we're not there, which is insane. With me right now is Congressman Jody Arrington of Texas, on the House Budget Committee. He's kind enough to be in studio congressman.

What are your thoughts about the FEMA setup? Do you think that plays into what I think is some poor action in North Carolina these last weeks?

Well, I think there's a few things going on. Number one, there's tremendous incompetency at the top, and that trickles down throughout the government. Number two, there are these ideological social programs, DEI, ESG, that are distracting from the mission, in this case, of providing emergency relief to our citizens. But in Afghanistan, debacle, you saw it there. You saw the lack of preparation and focus with the Secret Service and the disastrous and abject failure to protect President Trump.

So it's pervasive now in the federal government, and it starts at the top. But lastly, we're spending, at least at this point, I understand, $1.6 billion in a FEMA fund to provide emergency services, food, shelter, et cetera, for people who broke the law, who are here in this country illegally. And we've only spent... $45 million to help our fellow citizens in the disaster zone in the states that were affected by the recent hurricane. It's a shameful situation where this administration has prioritized taking care of their self-inflicted disaster of the border crisis versus our citizens and their effects, their impact from the natural disaster.

So, when you what would you say? It's not something that involves Texas directly, but we're seeing Georgia get hit by. Helene, you see parts of South Carolina get hit, but mostly North Carolina get hit. And now when it's brought up, where have you been? Why did why are you at the beach when this hit?

Why did you not call the Army in for a week? People say, well, that's disinformation. Everything's fine.

Well, I'd never heard a a A criticism being labeled disinformation. You might not like the criticism, but you can't just say that's disinformation. Yeah, if you're not. Here's what's happening. Kamala Harris is spending all of her time trying to rebrand herself as a small government, low-tax, progressive Democrat.

Who has a gun? who has a gun and believes in your right to speak and et cetera. But think about this for a minute. As budget chairman, we've done the cost of the border crisis. $9,000 per illegal immigrant is what we're spending.

on those folks who have broken the law and this administration obviously complicit in their policies that have encouraged it. $9,000 per illegal immigrant. Kamala Harris is in Georgia saying Quote, if you need it, we'll cut you a $750 check.

Meanwhile, this administration has given $2,300 per illegal immigrant for health care, $1,300 per illegal immigrant in welfare, and the $9,000 total cost of taxpayer services to illegal immigrants is more than we spend on our most vulnerable Americans for Medicaid benefits. Within FEMA, can you move money around? I mean, that's a big question. They say they're out of money. We have the Homeland Security Secretary say, I need a replenishment.

And at the same time, they're giving money to that cause from FEMA. At the same time, there's an emergency need shortly for Milton and currently for Helene. We've already authorized a drawdown of $20 billion. We did that in the CR before we broke for October.

So they've got the money. The money's there. They're drawing down that money right now. It's no longer $20 billion. It's over $10 billion.

We're not going to let the American people suffer without the resources to. Support them. But here's the point, Brian. I mean, we're now borrowing $6 billion a day.

Okay? That's after $7 trillion in deficit spending, another $5 trillion in additional interest on the debt, which is now a trillion dollars because of the policies of this administration. And they have moved money all over the people's government from housing to health care. Just recently, CBO reported $16 billion in Medicaid for providing health care generally at the emergency room for people here illegally. They've moved money all around the people's government for the purpose of dealing with illegal immigrants and their priorities, but they haven't put the American people at the top of that list and they're suffering from it as a result.

And they're not coming back and checking with Congress to do that. A couple other things. One I want to bring up, the fact is they say border crossings are down. And how much credit does Texas belong for that and get for that because of what they did on their own? You guys spending money out of your own state pockets, able to put up your own barrier, have to have your own essentially Border Patrol, do your own thing.

And because of that, you were getting sued by this government until the last time. Border Barriers floats over the Rio Grande to stop it. They're suing you because of that. That's the insult to injury, if you will. People need to understand this.

I think to get the first part, we have a commander-in-chief that's been, and the vice president and borders are Kamala Harris, have been derelict in their first and most important job, to provide for the common defense and protect our borders and our people. They've abdicated that. Texas is not a state that's going to sit there and wring their hands. They're going to fill the gap and they're going to protect their citizens. But not only have they failed to enforce the laws and Protect our citizens.

They're obstructing Texas at every step of the way. Like you said, the buoy barriers, the barbed wire fencing, you name it. And our recent Senate Bill 4, which basically says if Texas finds out that you're here illegally, we will deport you immediately.

So all this is tied up in the courts, and they've basically weaponized the Department of Interior, saying that the Mexican muscle is a critical habitat in the Rio Grande River. What about the critical lives of the American people that are suffering as a result?

So, Brian, it's completely upside down.

So, that Texas gang, the lethal Texas Venezuelan gang was found in Texas, Trendi Aragua. The DPS picked up some of these gang members in Houston who followed a woman through her garage, tied her up, and threatened to chop off her fingers if she didn't give them all the money in a safe. She had none. They ended up getting a $75,000 and not chopping it off. But little by little, they catch up with almost all these guys.

They arrested after a DPS special agent assigned in the U.S. Houston case was notified of a suspected member, then they got some of the other guys.

So, this is happening all over the place with these illegal aliens in Chicago killed somebody. But they say you can go out on your own because you did it by mistake. We're seeing this over and over again. Here's Governor Greg Abbott yesterday, cut 34. I think that interview is disqualifying.

She has no answer to what's going on on the border. She has three and a half years, almost four years now in office as Vice President and cannot articulate what needs to be done to secure the border. But on top of that, she was flat out lying to the American public because she talked about from day one they had solutions. To be clear, from day one, what they did was to gut all of the policies that President Trump put into place that secured the border far more secure than it's been in about 40 years. And ever since then, what Harris has done is refused to do anything to implement any type of border security.

So, and now she wants to come off tough saying that we propose we made a proposal when this administration first started. They had the House and Senate. Don't know where that went. It's all basically an amnesty program, and from what I could tell by the summary. Number two is there was a bipartisan deal that Langford, Murphy and Cinema put together.

You should have signed off on that, it would have solved all the problems. And that's the issue. Not that she let it go for three and a half years, not that she never went to the border for three and a half years, not that she even was interested in this for three and a half years, but now she wants to come out tough on it. What's the reality? The reality is the last year of President Trump, he effectively stopped illegal immigrant migration, about 1,000 a day.

Now it's well over 10,000 a day.

So it's out of control. And they've had no interest in enforcing the law. I think it's intentional, by the way. And I think the border czar Kamala Harris initially blamed it on climate. And you're right.

She never made it. And so what we know is they've ceded control to terrorist drug cartels. As a Texan, I can tell you they've empowered and enriched these terrorist cartels who are abusing these folks, these vulnerable people who have been encouraged to come here because of the open border policies of this administration. And they've put in peril the citizens of my state and other states throughout the country. And they've basically trafficked these people the last mile with your tax dollars.

That FEMA money that we talked about earlier, that money goes to transporting illegal. To a town and neighborhood near you. And they didn't vet these people. They don't know their backgrounds. What they at least admitted recently was over 500,000 of those that they released into our neighborhoods were convicted felons, some who had been convicted of murder, of rape, and other violent crimes.

So we're being deluged with drugs and crimes and criminal elements, and it's destroying our quality of life. Uh let's uh shift to pol uh to twenty twenty four. And it is Kamala Harris went from doing no interviews to doing four in two days. You got sixty minutes, you got the view, you got Colbert, you have Howard Stern. To me, that's the act of a candidate that's losing.

The only time you do something like that, you put someone who's not sure of herself in unscripted situations and put them in unscripted situations. What do you see? I see all hat and no cattle. I see an incompetent executive, to put it lightly and professionally. She has no business being the CEO of the most powerful and greatest country in the world.

I see someone who was the most radical senator. I see somebody who is part of the radical fringe left that is. Created the problem. Yeah, she's going to try to make that appeal. And probably it's best that she doesn't do a lot of interviews because it's going to reveal her real value system, which is to radically transform this country, which is what they tried to do the last four years, and a pretty good job of it, by the way.

But that's what I see. I see the same strategy they deployed when President Biden was running as a candidate. Keep him in the basement. Keep him away. Don't let anybody see the fact that he was incapacitated.

When did he come out of the basement? When he looked like he had to fight for the nomination before they took it away from him. That's true. He went out and did a press conference. He did three or four network interviews, lost his temper, had as much downside as upside, did a bunch of rallies.

Good point. He said, I'm not going anywhere. The God Almighty's got to come down. It's the only person that could get me out of this race.

So now, why did she stay away?

Well, she thought it was in her best interest. Why is she not getting away? Why is she not? What changed?

Something in her internal. Said, nobody knows you, and it's not okay anymore.

Well, it's a great point. I take that as a positive sign that the American people have better judgment than what they think they have, and they don't want any more of this inflation, border crisis, feckless foreign policy, weak posture on the world, no respect, or at least a lack of respect, not only by our enemies, but also our allies.

So I think it's a good sign. And listen, the more despair despair she has to come out and do these interviews, the more people will see that she is woefully underqualified for this job. That's true. And we were talking before, nobody could say Bill Clinton wasn't talented. Nobody could say Barack Obama wasn't talented.

You might disagree with policies. You go, okay, that's a good candidate. George W. Bush was very personable, knew his stuff, surrounded himself with great people. He didn't have the eloquence of Clinton, but he had charm.

Sure. I'm looking at her. I am. Desperate to see any substance. I think it's doing, I don't think we should ever talk about it if someone's smart or dumb.

That's not a matter. How sure are they the topics? She's sure in legal stuff. That's her area. But you can't talk about domestic policy, tax policy, foreign policy, anything.

It looks all memorized. Congressman, you know a lot of natural politicians. You know a lot of people who are very smart. They just don't like the polit political part of it. Where does she fit in?

I don't think she's even smooth and slick. Which is not impressive anyway, because you can be smooth and slick and have all the wrong policies or be deceptive about what you really want to do when you're sort of campaigning to do one thing. I think my concern with her is just a track record. Let's just look at the two things that she was specifically assigned to do on behalf of the Biden-Harris administration. She was supposed to be the border czar, and it's been an unmitigated and unprecedented failure and self-inflicted failure on account of her incompetence.

Didn't even try, and just the word the more she talked, the worse it got. And then there was the deception of the border is secure.

Now, all of a sudden, it's not secure, and it was a matter of a bipartisan bill in Congress. It would do nothing. It would just be window dressing, to put it mildly, and we could go through that bill. The second assignment she had that was very specific was to deploy $40 plus billion dollars in broadband. Infrastructure to close the digital divide in rural areas like West Texas and the people I represent.

not one person is on the internet. Not one person has access to the internet as a result of her being in charge of deploying broadband technology.

So just take those two, forget the policies, the radical policies for a minute, and just look at those two assignments and the abject failure.

So lastly, real quick, Ted Cruz in trouble. What do you think? It's a two or three-point race? Look, it's going to be a close race. It was when he ran against Beto O'Rourke, and I think he'll do better than the Beto race.

But no, Texans are going to send Ted Cruz back up here to fight for their freedom and to fight alongside President Trump. Trump, Jody Arrington. Thanks so much. Great to see you in person. All right, and stay out of trouble in New York.

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It's Brian Killmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. You know, when you first became the nominee and named Tim Walls as your vice president nominee, people were calling it the vibe election.

Well, the vibes were all good. But elections, I think, are won-on-vibes because one of the old saws is: they just want somebody they can have a beer with.

So, would you like to have a beer with me so I can tell people what that's like?

Okay. This was.

Now, we asked ahead of time because I can't just be giving a drink to the Vice President of the United States without asking. You asked for Miller highlight. I'm just curious.

Okay, the last time. I had beer was at a baseball game with Doug.

So, okay, cheers. There you go. That tastes like the beautiful city of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Right. And is that the image that you want?

And maybe you do, maybe you think it's no big deal. While you have Milton bearing down on Florida. I mean, is that the image that you want? As North Carolina says, we can't find a lot of people and we need helicopters to get in. And you were 10 days late when bringing in the Army, and the Army says they were ready.

Do you still have your handlers who say do the view, do Howard Stern and end up on Stephen Colbert at night having a beer? I think there's a reason. Joe Biden, you know what he did? He was supposed to go to Germany and Angola. A inconsequential, not an emergency trip, nothing to do with Ukraine or Israel.

So we cancelled it. Say I can't do it. She didn't cancel anything.

So, don't get mad at DeSantis for not calling you back because you're not in the chain of command and say it's politics. And at the same time, you're going on all these shows as if you don't own a windbreaker, don't care about the weather, don't care about the hurricane. Can't have it both ways, I don't think. Hey, go to BrianKillme.com. I want to see you in Peekskill, New York, home of Governor George Mataki.

Okay. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian In Kill Mead. Hi everyone, don't miss a minute of the Brian Kill Me Show. We have all the breaking news.

I come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. I mean, what a mess Manhattan is. I mean, you've been tracking this. One of the most powerful positions, mayor positions in the world, I mean, as you could just say, if you're a mayor of New York, a lot of times you're really more powerful than the governor. If you're mayor of New York, and you have a situation where this mayor is losing a different person every day close to him, and they're all in trouble, and then he is in trouble.

He's been indicted, they're going to expand the charges, so he's totally unable to do anything. And in the back of my mind, I just say to myself, whatever you think of Mayor Adams, The guy before is a lot worse. What is it about him? That is everyone looking at everything he's done. And everyone around him and putting them all in jail.

Coming up at the bottom of the air, Hung Cao. He's a Virginia GOP Senate nominee. He's a Vietnamese immigrant who's spent 25 years in the Navy, and people that know him say he is absolutely an elite warfighter. He had a fantastic debate. He's going to be joining us too.

And. We have Stephen Moore standing by, so let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. No, think about it. He thinks Vladimir Putin is his friend. What about the American people?

They should be your first friend. But if Donald Trump, even if it's true, look, is there something wrong with speaking to world leaders? And that's true. This is one of the revelations in Bob Woodward's book, New Tell All as revelations creating quite an uproar from Vladimir Putin to Trump to Biden to Obama. If true, a lot of nerves will be rubbed raw.

Number two. Would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years? There is not a thing that comes to mind in terms of, and I've been a part of most of the decisions that have had impact. Uh, really?

Okay, most of the decisions have had impact. The Harris media blitz continues, and like her boss, Biden, who attempted to rally his base when he got in political trouble, she's creating problems with her lack of answers and inability to display knowledge and handle issues.

Meanwhile, Trump's battleground blitz continues. He's going to be in two stops in Pennsylvania today. Number one. How confident are you that FEMA will have what it needs to take care of impacted Americans moving forward? Very, very confident.

We have demonstrated that in response to Hurricane Helene with an extraordinary breadth of resources.

Okay, I don't believe a word of it, but HSS Secretary Mayorkis suddenly has money for Milton. A massive hurricane expected to slam the west coast of Florida in the next few hours today. And this is just two weeks ago when Helene did the same. And some areas of Florida really got hit hard, and that debris is going to be weaponized with this new wind coming in from Milton. How has the federal and state government responded?

And could this be an October surprise if people can't get to the polls because their life's in tatters? They're not thinking about voting. And a lot of these guys, these areas, are. Republican areas. With me right now is Stephen Moore, economist and author.

He's co-authored The Trump Economic Miracle and The Plan to Unleash Prosperity Again. Stephen, welcome back. Hey, Brian, great to be with you. Thanks for having me. By the way, the way the new book is just out just came out this week.

The title of that new book are you ready for this, Brian? The Trump Economic Miracle. And by the way, Brian, can you guess who came up with that title? Trump? Yeah, he did, yeah.

Arthur Laffer and I had a meeting with him about um Six weeks ago, we told them we had written the book about, you know, what the book really does is contrast. Economic performance of Trump versus Biden/slash Harris. And, you know, not to ruin the ending, but on virtually every single economic measurement, Brian, Trump's performance was far superior to anything that's happened under Biden and Harris. But anyway, so we showed Trump all the charts and stuff like that, showing how much better he did on the economy than Biden. And he said, what do you call this book?

And we said, well, sir, we were thinking about calling it Trump Enomics 2.0 because we'd written a book called Trump Economist about seven years ago. He said, no, I don't like that title. Call it the Trump Economic Miracles. That's how it came about. But it's a really important, I want people to get it.

Especially for people who are undecided at this point, because if you just look at the evidence that we present in that book, and by the way, it's one of those books you could read it in two or three nights. It's a very short read. But it really lays out the case that Trump and in virtually every single area, whether it's small business conditions, whether it was inflation, whether it's the price of food and gas, whether it was what's happened to real incomes for middle-class families, it's been a disaster under Biden and under Trump. Everything went really well.

So that's why I think it's going to come down to who do you trust more on the economy? I really do, Brian. And I think if that's the question, we all know the answer.

So the U.S. budget deficit topped $1.8 trillion in the latest fiscal year. These are the numbers that just came in. Unbelievable. The new data comes as Trump and Harris have both proposed new tax and spending plans that are estimated to add trillions of dollars, they say, to the deficit over the next decade.

The government collected $4.92 trillion in revenue and spent $6.75, putting the deficit at $1.83 trillion. And just to inform, I know you know this, but the previous year was $1.7, the deficit was slightly higher. The largest entitlements, Social Security, Medicare, they cost 6% more than they did in 2023 and going up.

So, do you know what the second biggest expenditure item is today, Brian, in the entire federal government? Is it paying off the interest? Yep, paying off the interest. And we're paying a trillion dollars of taxes now just to pay for the interest on this enormous debt. I mean, I fell off my chair laughing yesterday when this group called the left-wing group called the Committee for a Responsible Budget said that Trump would be worse on the deficit than Harris would when Harris is proposing trillions and trillions of dollars of new spending.

I mean, everything's going to be free under Kamala. Free home care, free child care, free, you don't have to pay your student loans back. We're going to give you free, you know, college is going to be free. Everything's going to be free. And when she was asked that question on 60 Minutes, how are you going to pay for that?

That interview was, what, five days ago? We still don't have an answer. Yeah, they say right now, just to your numbers, the U.S. spent $950 billion on interest, up 34% than private year, and that is linked to the prime rate, right? Is that linked to the interest rate in the country right now?

Well, yeah. I mean, interest rates have gone uh through the roof under there's two reasons we have a high interest payments. One is because we're borrowing so much And the second reason is because we're borrowing at a higher interest rate. Remember how low interest rates were when Trump was president? I'll give you an example.

The mortgage interest rate when Trump left office was 3%.

Now around the country, it's 6.5%.

So everything, you know, comments are, oh, I'm going to give everybody $25,000 for the down payment on their home. The average mortgage payment today is almost twice as high as it was. When Trump was president. And they did it to tame inflation that people, economists say, was driven by the massive spending. And the rescue package that we didn't need, that we just had a spending plan out of COVID in December, in comes Biden, says, I don't want to let a crisis go to waste, and jabs a huge agenda-driven rescue package.

That's precisely right. And so we spent $5 trillion above. And by the way, you know, we were borrowing too much even under Trump. And then Biden comes in and spends another $5 trillion and drove the deficit to all-time high. And I have to say, you played that clip.

From I forget, was that on the view where Kamala said, I wouldn't have done anything differently. I mean, to me, that's game set of match, really. I mean, in other words, we're going to get four more years of this. Really? I think they're just going to bankrupt our country.

It doesn't surprise me because she has not really separated herself. She has not really separated herself at all from Joe Biden.

So if she does, you know, it looks like Joe Biden's man already. He doesn't talk more, she doesn't talk more about everything they allegedly did together.

So he seems to be passively aggressive. Going after her. or the team that kind of left him. Here's what she said about Medicare and this new program she has to cover in home health care. Cut twelve.

What I am proposing is that basically what we will do is allow Medicare to cover In-home healthcare. Right. Because we're talking about These kinds of things where it's just about helping an aging parent or person prepare a meal, put their sweater on. And it's about dignity for that individual. Plus, for the family, to send them to a residential care facility to hire somebody is so expensive.

So your thoughts.

So I mean, this is amazing. Do you know the Wall Street Journal reported that the average cost for home health care can be over half a million dollars a year?

So where is the money going to come from? I mean, one of my heroes was Ronald Reagan, and he used to say something, Brian, that I hope every voter keeps in mind, which is, remember he used to say, a government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you've got. And if they were to, she's proposed a $5 trillion tax increase, the biggest tax increase in the history of the United States. I I live through candidates like Michael Dukakis and Walter Mondale and Hillary Clinton and John Kerry. I would say that she is far, far to the left.

She's the most anti business candidate the Democrats have ever come up with. Yeah, I I mean well I d I actually think this. Bernie Sanders, you know exactly where he stands. You think the math doesn't work, and you and I don't agree with what he believes in, but I believe that he does. I don't know what she believes.

I I think there's a bunch of deal. I mean, for example, taxing unr unrealized gains. I mean, on whether it's a four hundred one K or whether it's at IPO or if you had a good year and your stock increased in value, you're paying taxes on it. If you don't have that money, you're going to have to sell it.

So, for her, she doesn't come up. Don't tell me that she came up with that.

Somebody had to have told her that.

Well, I don't know where this idea came from. It is crazy, you're right. You'd literally have people having to sell the family farm to pay the taxes on the appreciation of the farm value. It would kill small business and family-owned businesses. And also, by the way, I bet most of the people listening to your show, if not virtually all of them, Have like a 401k plan or a retirement plan where the money is invested in the stock market.

It's not just rich people who own stock. All of us own stock in our companies. And you put in place higher capital gains tax, the higher corporate tax, the tax on, she wants to, as you said, tax unrealized capital gains. And don't forget, Under her plan, she would double the hated, remember the debt tax. We want to get rid of it, she wants to double it.

When you add all those taxes together, The tax on investment would be so high, it would kill the stock market. I mean, you're talking about huge reductions in the value of your portfolios, and that's people's wealth.

So she said one of the things when she was asked by 60 Minutes, where is this money coming from? The wealthy have to pay their fair share.

Well, what is their fair share?

So Dave Portnoy, who's wealthy, the creator of Barstool, wrote this. Uh Real talk. Am I getting screwed on taxes? I pay 50% of everything I'm screwing you on taxes. I pay 50% of everything I make to the government.

Is Kamala saying the teachers, nurses, and firefighters pay over 50%? I've asked my accountants for this super wealthy tax break. They can't seem to find it. How many people that you know say the same thing? Not only are you paying the taxes, you're being vilified by not paying enough while you're working in his case, and in my case, 60 hours a week, 70 hours a week.

The risk he took handing out fires for years that say bars still want it while people just jamming it to people's hands as they went to work in Boston.

Now he ends up a super wealthy guy and he's been told he's the problem. How many people listening to me like that feel the same way, but they don't say anything? Yeah, I mean, I'm in the same boat. I'm not rich. I'm upper middle income.

And when I come home from work, my my wife always reminds me, we are well over half of your paycheck, Steve, is going to the government now. And I'm not, you know, I'm not in the top 1%. I'm not maybe close to, I'd like to be in the top 10%, but the point is. The top people in that top 1% category, she says, aren't paying any taxes. Do you know, Brian, they pay almost half of the income tax?

Yes. I mean, it's just so and they sit there. What the hell is she talking about? 1%, one out of 100 Americans pay half of the income tax, and she says they're not paying enough.

Now, I got to ask you this, because you had a lot to do with the tax reform passed in 2018. When they say he passed tax reform for billionaires, he just happens to be rich and did tax reform. That's it. I heard the biggest people that got the biggest break were the middle class at 16%, correct? Yeah, we lowered the income.

The average American saved about $2,200 a year on their taxes. Kamala Harris would repeal the entire Trump tax cut, which means she's going to, the first thing she will do out of the gate is raise taxes. We're already overly stressed. Financially, families by $2,200. The share of taxes paid by the rich, ready for this, Brian, went up after the Trump tax cut, not now, they went up.

It's crazy. Yeah, and by the way, corporate tax, it's not that corporate CEOs are going to get to take more money home. Would you describe why corporate tax works for Americans?

Well, the corporate tax is a tax on the profits that a business makes. We want our businesses to be profitable. As I just said, who owns American corporations? We all do. Almost everybody listening to the show owns a piece of the rock.

And so, what you do when you raise the corporate tax is you chase. businesses and factories out of the United States. And they go to Ireland or they go to the Bahamas or they go to Bermuda or they go to China. We want our companies here. We brought thousands of companies back to the United States under Trump because we lowered our tax rate.

From 35 to 21. Yep, you got it. Right. Thanks so much. Steve, congratulations on the book.

It's called The Trump Economic Miracle and the Plan to Unleash Prosperity Again: The Truth About the Dollars and Cents. Thanks, Steve. Thanks, Brad. 1866-408-7669. Don't move.

You're with Brian Kilmead If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Which foreign country do you consider to be our greatest adversary? I think there's an obvious one in mind, which is Iran. Iran has American blood on their hands.

Okay. This this attack on Israel, 200 ballistic missiles. What we need to do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to be a nuclear power. That is one of my highest priorities.

So if you're not sure that Iran is building a nuclear weapon, would you take military action? I'm not going to talk about hypotheticals at this moment.

Well, they're about to get hit, no doubt about it. I don't mind that answer. China, Russia, just like when Mitt Romney came out and said Russia is our number one geopolitical foe, and then Barack Obama said the nineteen eighties cold and they want their foreign policy back. How bad did that age for Barack Obama? Terrible.

Nobody calls him on it. You know, he's out of the picture now, and so is Mitt Romney. But for her, I don't mind that answer. But if you'd mind that, if that is in fact true and they've been our enemies since 1979, and she's in fact right, why would we not play a dominant role in the retribution of Iran for having a massive missile attack twice over the last six months? Brian, listening on WHL over in Canton, Ohio.

Hey, Brian. Hey, thanks for having me on, especially after I left my radio on last time. I apologize. No problem. Real quick.

You had on about the taxes. I know it's close to the election, but a simple billboard reminding everybody have a great day at work, working half your day paying the government taxes. And then be told it's not enough, Brian. Then be told it's not enough and you're hoarding it. Right?

They're taking it, and then what's that cost of all the illegals that they're letting in, like in the Springfield that they're flying in? Right, and then we got to put them in schools. We got to get a French Creole interpreter and put that into classrooms and then provide housing, room, and board. It's a ton, and no one asked us. Radio that makes you think.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. You know, the economy is hitting us all the same way. Ask yourself this question, are you better off today than you were four years ago? The answer across the board is no. The only people better off today than they were four years ago are illegal aliens, criminals.

And Senators like Senator Tim Cain. That is Hung Cow. He is a Virginia GOP Senate candidate who did exceedingly well at this debate, which is not easy to do with an experienced politician like Tim Kaine, who was on Hillary Clinton's running mate. You may remember. Cow is a Vietnamese immigrant who spent 25 years in the Navy, including service in combat zones around the world, and wasn't done giving up his time and his life for the country.

Now he wants to serve as a senator. A new poll from Christopher Newport University Watson Center has it 55, has a 20-point lead for Kaine, but we don't really have the impact of that debate next. Hung Cow, welcome back. Brian, thank you so much for having me. All right.

You know, the the um poll is all screwed up. I'm telling you right now that it's All the other polls have me a lot closer. That one's just way out far left. And you see this across the country too. Everybody from Sam Brown and Nevada and Carrie Lake, they're all way below Trump.

And I'm telling you right now, I'll buy everybody on your show a dinner at Rooster Steakhouse or something like that if they can find me somebody that's going to vote for Donald Trump and in the same breath vote for someone crazy like Tim Kaine. I know, having him at the top of the ticket is certainly going to affect things. For a while, they say, Well, Trump's so adverse. In 2016, they used to say Trump is so different as a Republican. These defenders have to overcome, and the congressmen and women have to overcome this Trump the Trump popularity.

Now they realize they want to run or run with it. You did really well in that debate. You spoke from the heart. You know the issues. You fought for the country and you love the country.

You also know about the hottest issues personally, and that's immigration. Before we get into some more moments of that debate, Hung, can you tell me your immigrant story? Yes, so I came to Vietnam from Vietnam in 1975. My father was marked for death or going to be sent to a re-education camp because he was a high-ranking government official. And so we fled over here and we came to the United States, and this country gave us everything.

It gave us hope, it gave us education, it gave us opportunity. And I wanted to pay back everything that this country gave me with 25 years of service in Navy special operations with combat in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Somalia.

So you were here before you were a citizen? Yes, absolutely. But you know what? We waited in line for seven years. to get that citizenship.

We waited patiently and then we paid back this country. And the last thing that hung over my father's bed was his naturalization certificate when he passed away two years ago. How did this country treat you when your family got here? I mean, there's always hardships and people like, oh, you guys come over here and you take all the jobs. But the thing is, we just wanted to pay back.

We wanted to work our tails off. We didn't want any handouts. My parents were too proud to go on food stamps And so my dad was working his uh tail off. And in fact, we ended up having to move to Africa for seven years because that's the only work he can find with a PhD in agriculture.

So we uh lived in sub-Saharan Africa where I saw real true hardships. You know, you have to let the water run for a long time for it to turn from dark brown to somewhat light, and you still have to filter it, boil it and put iodine just to drink it.

So you're an American so you're an American citizen, you're on your path, and yet to get you had to leave the country in order to get work. And with those type of degrees, you would think this country would have an endless opportunity. But do you think there was some resonance from the Vietnam War too? A reluctance after the Vietnam War? There was a little bit, but the thing is, once they saw us roll up our sleeves and work our tail off, you know, next year is going to be the 50th anniversary of the fall of Saigon.

And actually, I'll be the first Vietnamese-American U.S. Senator who will be inaugurated on that year. But I want to be able to turn to all the Vietnam vets out there and say, thank you. I hope that my Service pays back for your sacrifice in Vietnam all those years because they never got the recognition they deserved. Full of Saigon was an embarrassment for this country, leaving off the top of the embassy with just one chopper, leaving a lot of people behind.

You think Afghanistan was worse? Oh, yes, absolutely worse, because we never learn from our own mistakes. Right. And the same person that did that, remember that Joe Biden, his first Vote in the U.S. Senate was to stop all funding to South Vietnam.

He said, I don't feel that we need to save one or 100,000 won Vietnamese. It's not our obligation. And look what he did to Afghanistan. And Kamala Harris now is saying she wouldn't do anything differently. Really?

I mean, there's 11 Marines. One soldier, one sailor who's not breathing right now, who will never grow old, who will never get to hold their loved ones again, who will never see their kids. You know, uh, grow grow up and get married because of that decision, you're saying that you're not going to do anything differently? Talking to Hung Kao here. He's a GOP Senate nominee.

He's taking on Tim Kaine.

So I'm going to contrast your story. With what happened in Afghanistan. There were some people there that helped us out. We tried to get out, but the vetting was terrible. We keep hearing that over and over again.

More evidence. Yesterday, we found out, Monday, there was an arrest. An Afghan national in Oklahoma arrested for plotting an Election Day terrorist attack here in the U.S. We learned that the suspect entered the country in September 2021 as a quote special immigrant visa with no vetting after the U.S. pulled out.

His name is Nasir Ahmed Talawidi, and he was obtained firearms, ammunition to conduct a violent attack on Election Day.

So, this one story is yours. Vietnam War. didn't go like we wanted, or the South Vietnamese preferred, obviously. And then you come over here and you say, I'm going to make a life myself in America. And this guy comes over here at 27 years old, sees the opportunity, sees what this country is giving him, and says, I would like to destroy it.

Oh, yeah, that's exactly it. I mean, they're not grateful for what this country is providing them. The country gave them an opportunity to. To really practice whatever you want, religion or your, you know, whatever you want to do, this country allows you to do it. And you you want to choose to to destroy us?

And that's the problem. They let in also all these military age males from the southern border. We we found out now there's thirteen thousand convicted murderers and sixteen thousand convicted rapists that came across under Joe Biden's watch. And that's wrong. I mean, and not only that, I mean, don't forget well, actually I don't know people know this, but in December, a Chinese drone was flying off of a Chinese ship off the coast of uh Virginia.

And onto Langley Air Force Base and collected a lot of data, and we weren't allowed to protect our base there. We shut down F-22 flights for eight days. And Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Tim Kaine, you know, won't do anything about it.

Well so wait, uh a drone landed On our shores. It's flying. It's flying over Lendley Air Force. Yeah, the only base in the United States that has F-22 Raptors. In December, we had the ability to jam it.

My company, you know, because I still work, had the ability to go down there with our technology and take down this drone. We didn't do it. I didn't hear anything of this. Yeah, because they're hiding it.

So, I mean, Brian, they're hiding a lot of things. They're hiding a lot of murders that happen in our country from illegal aliens. They're hiding the fact that there's a Chinese national who crashed a drone into a tree. And when the police came to see him, he goes, Oh, let me go home and get a Yeah. And he never came back.

When they downloaded the drone, when they got the drone off, they downloaded, there's a picture of every ship in Norfolk Harbor. and they found that guy on the plane two days later trying to leave the country. These are things that are not being reported. A lot of thi you know, two Jordan Indians try to ram the base at Quantico Marine Corps Base. I mean, these are out, by the way.

They got out, correct? Yeah. Yes. They're here still. And so Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and Tim Kaine are directly responsible.

And if something happens to this country, I will hold them accountable. I know you will. In fact, that came up as your debate. Listen. You can't come here and expect the American dream if you're not willing to obey the American laws and embrace the American culture.

That's what I did. There's violence and unrest now. Look in Aurora, Colorado. Look at all the other places in the world where MS-13 gangs are coming across fentanyl. It's already happening.

It's already happening in our country. Deport anybody that's committing crimes right now. Yeah. I mean, in there was a murder in Chicago. This guy's guilty.

He's captured. Kim Fox let him out.

So, well, it was an accident. It's an accident to kill somebody. You throw them out. They're done. You're absolutely right.

So Melody Waldecker is a mother, I'm sorry, a grandmother up in Sterling that was killed by an illegal alien who was a carjacker. Lauren Nicole Leonard is a young student down in Chesapeake who was killed by an illegal alien. She's a student at Oldomini University. A 12-year-old girl was abducted on the way to school by an illegal alien, and thank goodness they were able to find a rescue. And then very recently, in my own county, in Loudoun County, this The kid was kicked out of school for having a gun.

They brought him back in school under the guise of another reason, and he's all tatted up. He's an MS-13 gang member. And what do you think he's going to do in our high schools? our children, at some point we have to prioritize Americans first. Absolutely.

And you brought up this about recruitment. Listen. When you're using a drag queen to recruit for the Navy, that's not the people we want. What we need is alpha males and alpha females who are going to rip out their own guts, eat them and ask for seconds. Those are young men and women that are going to win wars.

Uh please. Please, audience, please. Audience love you. The moderator didn't. And that made a lot of news.

I thought Tim Kaine would just kept staring at you, didn't know where that came from, but couldn't touch your credibility. No, exactly. The guy has never won the cloth over nation. He has no idea how to defend this country. And it's not about DEI issues.

It's about putting men and women who are willing to fight to the death for this country. That's what I was trying to say. Of course, the electron say I went on some weird cannibalistic rant. I'm like, No, you you guys have never been punched in the face ever in your lives. You have no idea how to get in a fight and you never know don't know how to win a fight.

So I want to bring you to right now what you think an appropriate response should be as Netanyahu gets an offer from Hezbollah for a ceasefire. And people say and evidently their defense minister turned out an opportunity to come and speak to our Secretary of Defense, Austin, about some type of Iran retribution. Hung Cow, what would be their appropriate response to a ceasefire offer in Lebanon? And what would your answer be to 180 rockets being sent from Iran if you were Netanyahu?

Well, no, they need to destroy it to For me to talk about any kind of ceasefire, destroy all those rockets right here, right now. I mean, Iran has been emboldened because of the Biden administration, because of Kamal Harris, and also people on the Senate Armed Service Committee like Tim Kaine. right? They they allowed for Iran to get all this money now because they lifted up all the sanctions. They're emboldened and they have all the money in the world to do what they want.

They they don't even try to hide behind their proxies, the Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas anymore, because they're launching three hundred missiles and drones at Israel.

So the only defense Israel has right now is to destroy all these weapons that are pointed right at them.

So and how do you feel about a nuclear attacking their nuclear facilities?

Some say Israel just does not have the firepower to do serious damage to their nuclear program. I don't know if you remember a few years ago, all those nuclear scientists magically died. Yes. By machine gun. Yeah.

So I'm just saying that Israel can do a lot of things. It doesn't mean that we're going to blow up a nuclear reactor or something like that. People say that that and it's just ridiculous. I mean, look, in Fukushima, they the the entire reactor went down when we they took out the uh well, when when the storm took out the uh diesel generators. and that pumps in the water.

So there's a lot of things you can do. Kinetically or non-kinetically, that won't cause, you know, basically a major disaster. People just think, oh my gosh, they're going to cause radiation all over. No, there's many ways for you to disable reactors and everything else without causing a national emergency. Hung Kao, I tell you, I was talking to.

Um David Bellavia. As you know, a Medal of Honor recipient. And he says what Netanyahu is showing America. is how to win. Not how to fight.

We know that. But how to win.

So let them win. How do you feel about that analogy? No, you're absolutely right. We don't have the stomach right now with all these politicians To win war.

So you saw that in Afghanistan, you saw that in Iraq. I mean, the same people that did that are now trying to dictate to Israel what they should or shouldn't do. Like, no, just sit back and just watch. watch and learn because you don't have any idea how to fight a war. These guys, they don't go in and they they don't master care of everybody.

They just go in and they take out the strategic sites that will that will cripple the enemy and force into the negotiation table. They know how to defend themselves. They've never asked for American boot on the ground. They've never asked for anything except for support. And Joe Biden and Tim Kaine even signed a letter that says he's going to.

Hold back weapons that keep Israel from being able to strike back. Hung Kao, people want to support your candidacy in this sprint to November 5th. Where do they go? Please go to hung4va.com. I'm telling you right now that this is a race that is going to surprise everybody.

We're only a few points behind Tim Kaine. Don't bully all those other crazy polls because they're trying to discourage voters and they're trying to discourage donors. But we have a very strong chance right now to win Virginia and flip this seat and as well as get the presidency back.

Well, put it this way: you'd be a huge assay in the Senate, whether you're a Democrat or Republican. Care about this country, extremely bright, successful, and It's great that you still want to give back. Hung Kao, thanks so much. Thank you, Brian. Back in a moment.

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There is a fundamental breaking of our core cellular biology that is caused by our diet and the world we're living in, the modern world we're living in today. That is crushing the very way that the human body and our human cells can transmit food energy to life energy, to cellular energy.

So that's Casey Means on with Joe Rogan talking about one of the hottest issues in America, what we're eating. You know, people just say, well, you eat like crap and you're eating this food and that's where you got fat. Then it turns out you think you're eating good, but it turns out the Frankenstein foods, the processed foods, always killing us and helping big pharma. It makes me wonder if in more to know, this is the same thing going down to another celebrity, Eva Menendez. She grew up on cereal.

She said, I loved it, but I will not eat it anymore in Kellogg's anymore after I found out that so many of the ingredients they use here in the U.S. are banned in other countries. Why? Because they're harmful for children. Special thanks.

Uh, to the food babe for helping bring this to light and demand that Kellogg remove these harmful artificial flavors. This is what RFK is talking about, right? It's true, and it's also about revamping the FDA more because if you do, if you look at our food labels compared to countries around the world, we are much more lenient in what they can put in our food. All right, let's talk about the office. Jenna Fisher, an office star, reveals she has breast cancer.

She's the actress best known for being Pam Beasley in the popular show The Office. Says it's stage one. She said this on Instagram: My tumor was small, it could not be felt on an exam. If I had waited six months longer, things would have been much worse. It could have spread.

A lesson learned. I always wonder, did she do anything after? You know? I think she did some smaller things, but I feel like she's always Pam. Right.

She's just always. Eric, do you watch The Office? I did, yes. Right. So, does you know if Pam Fisher did anything else?

I I do not know. Right. Do you know that they told her? Do not be too good looking. Like, tone it down.

You're supposed to look like an office. They don't want anyone glamorous walking in. I mean, but I thought she also portrayed like the girl next door perfectly, right? Because her character wouldn't have been like an overly done-up person, then she wouldn't have been so likable.

Next, a young Chiefs fan's defamation lawsuit against Deadspin to move forward. I didn't know if Deadspin was still around. Delaware Judge ruled on Monday that the Armentez family's lawsuit against Deadspin for accusing her son of wearing blackface at a Chiefs game last year can proceed. Remember, Karen Phillips wrote an article using an image of a nine-year-old Holden Armenta sporting black and red Kansas City Chiefs face paint. But showing only the black half of the face, Phillips accused Holden of finding a way to hate black people and the Native Americans at the same time.

It's a kid so dumb, so stupid, so they're suing, and this is going forward. This kid's gonna win. I mean, he should. It was such a ridiculous piece of what he wrote at the time. They're at the Chiefs game.

Those are the colors. Like, you're putting only half his face up. It was just so. I mean, Instinct is being kind. I know.

He will lose. By the way, quick note: October 20th, Peekskill, New York, 7 o'clock Star. It's a Sunday. I want to see everywhere there for History and Liberty Laps live on stage. BrianKillmee.com for tickets.

Take care. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kelmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.

We come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country and around the world. It's our privilege to have in the studio, the former Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, who happens to be a Soviet expert, turned into a Russia expert, Condalisa Rice, the Secretary of State for the 66th Secretary of State. Martha McCallum's coming up in 15, 20 minutes, who you also like, right? Yeah, absolutely. Who doesn't?

It's great to see you. Great to see you too, Brian. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, and by the way, we're not ignoring Milton. It's going to hit land in a few hours.

Let's just put it on hold because there's another different type of storm happening in the Middle East. We just talked about a lot of things off camera.

So much has happened since we talked since. I didn't think the October 7th attacks were possible. Obviously, the. Uh The Israelis didn't either, but one year later. Do you think Hamas accomplished their goal to make them look vulnerable and isolate Israel around the world?

Well Hamas I think first wanted to kill as many Jews as they could. And then they wanted to have Israel, quote, overreact and isolate Israel. The Israelis are very tough. And yes, you're getting calls for ceasefires and so forth and so on, but the Israelis are going to do what they have to do to make themselves secure again. They've weakened Hamas significantly.

We maybe talk about this, but what they're doing to Hezbollah is unbelievable. And I think what you're starting to see is that the Israelis are tired of it. They're going to go after these proxies and they're going to show that they can make Israel secure and they're going to re-establish deterrence, which is what failed on October 7th.

So when you look at the Philadelphia border between Egypt and Gaza, the Egyptians had to know those tunnels were there. I mean, they were moving tractors and out of there.

So there's a, now there's, I don't know how much they trust each other to begin with, but there was a peace agreement, at least.

So now they can't trust it.

So they need a presence on that border. Others who live there say, well, no, we don't really need a presence, we'll just keep our eye on it. Madam Secretary, do you agree that you can no longer keep your eye off that border? Because that's how they supplied.

Well, just to be clear, Brian, nobody kept their eye off that border. We were trying to work with the Egyptians to close those tunnels back in 2003 and 2004 and 2005. The last thing that I did was sign an MOU with Zippy Livny just before I got out of the State Department a memorandum of understanding just before I left. To try to work with the Egyptians to close those tunnels.

So, this has been going on for a long time. Hezbollah got a lot of support. Unfortunately, some of it came from the Israelis looking the other way while they got money to rearm from the Qataris, maybe not even looking the other way.

So, there's a lot to go around there. But I think the Israelis have done a lot to disable those tunnels. They're going to keep seeking to destroy the Hamas leadership, which is important. They're going to keep seeking to destroy those military brigades of Hamas, which is important. But, yes, it's not clear how the Philadelphia corridor is going to be secured.

But people have been working on this for a long time. It's just never fully worked. You know, it's so interesting. We keep hearing we want a ceasefire. All the candidates, the president, want a ceasefire.

But isn't how they stop fighting going to be the reason why the fighting is going to be indicative of how long? The ceasefire holds and peace has its best chance. You can't just stop. Ceasefires are not always the answer. A ceasefire may ultimately be the answer in Gaza, not because of a ceasefire to get a ceasefire, but because the Israelis at some point are going to want to go to something that looks more like counter-terrorism operations in and out of Gaza.

And I think what they are demonstrating right now is that, in some ways, the real front. is against Hezbollah. And the question of how not to get it overextended as you're dealing with Hezbollah is one that I think the IDF and the leadership in Israel is going to have to think about. It's also the case that it would be good to have what I called not a ceasefire, but a humanitarian pause of a little time to get supplies in to Palestinians and so forth. But I want to turn back to Hezbollah for a second because when al-Qaeda attacked us, I remember George Tennett, then the CIA director, saying that the A-team of terrorism was Hezbollah.

And what the Israelis have done in penetrating Hezbollah, in penetrating Iran with their intelligence, is really changing the strategic picture in the Middle East, and we should not be looking prematurely there for a ceasefire. Here's what the Prime Minister Netanyahu said in an address directly to the Lebanese people, Cut 28. We've degraded Hezbollah's capabilities. We took out thousands of terrorists, including Asraela himself. and a strong replacement.

and the replacement of his replacement. Today Hezbollah is weaker than it has been for many, many years.

Now you, the Lebanese people, you stand at a significant crossroads. It is your choice. You can now take back your country. You can return it to a path of peace and prosperity. Can they though?

The Lebanese people are held hostage by Hezbollah as much as Israel is held hostage by Hezbollah. And this is a chance for The Lebanese. people for decent government to emerge in Lebanon. Hespola Killed. the uh Rafi Kariri.

Who was the well-beloved Prime Minister of Lebanon in 2005? Massive car bomb. Hezbollah has refused to allow Lebanon to have elections for the last two years, despite the fact that the formula for how that needs to take place is very, very clear. And so. To the degree that Hezbollah is weakened, Lebanon has a chance to be free.

We are going to have to help the Lebanese Army, which we've actually been training since 2005. But this is a chance for Lebanon to actually be out from under the thumb of the thugs, the drug runners, the terrorists that are Hezbollah. Your contacts are great with Jenny on the ground in Lebanon, but right now there's a ground operation that the Israelis are going forward. They've got to get their 80,000 people back in their homes in the north, and they've got to make them feel safe. They might even put another division in, I understand.

I don't know how big this army is, but that fear of 2006, when they had such a hard time, even though they did tremendous damage, is that over? Have they learned a lot from that? Have you heard about tremendous progress? I really can't answer it, Brian, and I don't think anybody can. I think the IDF has got to have an assessment of what they can achieve on the ground.

I guess how damages are you? Yeah, and it may look different than it did in 2006. In 2006, it looked like something that was really going to be very risky and not likely to succeed. Obviously, the Israeli, that's a democracy. And I have a very strong view.

When a democracy is trying to create better security circumstances for itself, we should probably be United States, the administration.

Somewhat less fulsome in our advice to them about how to do it. And we especially. should not debate in the newspapers what the Israelis may or may not do.

So there seems intentional, a leak from our government into the Washington Post and New York Times about the moves, the objectives, and their objection. To this. And the leverage is it's our weapons, we should have a say. Mr. Secretary, you were there too.

So, how do you feel about the leverage that we have? Do this to an ally in the middle of a war that was not started by them, but started by terrorists who attacked them. And what I mean by you don't do this about the do this to them is could we stop? Debating whether they're going to go after Iranian nuclear sites? Could we stop debating are they planning to go after oil reserves?

Could we stop debating how we feel about it? You know, Brian, you never knew that in two thousand six we had very tough conversations with the Israelis about going in on the ground in Lebanon. but we had them in private. If you have concerns with the Israelis about what they're about to do, Go have those discussions in private, but please don't leak it to the New York Times. And we saw, I don't want to get you involved in politics, but I'll just tell you what everyone saw.

We watched the president reluctant to talk to the press for four years. But two times over the next four days, when asked what should the Iranians bomb, I wouldn't do oil fields. What should they bomb? Nuclear weapons, I would discourage that. I'm going to talk to him later.

And then made it clear he's not even on speaking terms with the Prime Minister of Israel. He could have easily avoided those questions. He's been doing this for 50 years. That was intentional, don't you think?

Well, I'm not going to question motives here. I'm just going to say I didn't very much like the outcome. Because you're an American.

Well, I'm an American, and I believe that when you have a democratic ally that's fighting an existential war. that you support them? And if you have concerns, which you're perfectly capable of having, perfectly legitimate to have those concerns, but have those concerns quietly. Have those concerns in conversation with your ally. Have those concerns behind the curtain, not out in front of it.

So we have a situation where last time I talked to you, I think the Ukrainian operation was underway and the invasion was supposed to be over. We had in four days. Our president said to Zelensky, we'll give you a ride out. He goes, I don't want rides, I want weapons. And they fought gallantly.

I have no doubt that we should be re-supporting Ukraine. I am very disturbed that a lot of Republicans don't think it's worth it, and maybe Bernie Sanders on the extreme left. I don't even know where that comes from. They're not a perfect democracy, but so what? Who is?

They clearly want to be part of the West. And to me, they've earned it. And Zelensky has shown me tremendous leadership without any experience, tremendous instincts. Having said that, they're in Kursk. They have twenty five million population.

The Russians got one hundred fifty million population. What do you look to be the next step? Because Zelensky is presenting the West with his idea of an endgame. Uh the end game is going to have to be one that the Ukrainians uh develop. Look, they have they have uh sacrificed immensely.

And uh one thing that we have to remember is that they are fighting for their democracy, fighting for their freedom, fighting for their sovereignty. They haven't asked us to send a single soldier. They just asked us to give them the means to fight for themselves, and we should be doing that.

Now, whether the end game will be the return of all territory or not, we we'll see. But eventually there has to be a Ukraine that is prosperous, a Ukraine that is secure, and a Ukraine that is united. And we need to start talking with the Ukrainians about what that might look like. Brian, they have achieved some remarkable things. Do you know that the thanks they don't even have a navy?

And thanks to their drone technologies, they have pushed the Russian Navy back from its bases in the Black Sea and reopened their ability to get grain through the Black Sea. Helping Africa.

So they've achieved some remarkable things. They continue to have an economy that's actually working in Kyiv, in Lviv, and in the western part of the country. And so at some point, the Ukrainians will have to decide what their objectives really are. We ought to be a part of that conversation. But for now, let's give them what they need so that the Russians can't achieve a breakthrough.

I know you're a State Department, not Defense Department, but those fears of the military industrial base taking over the country that Eisenhower has spoken about is not happening. In fact, it's not big enough. And we have to expand it in order to get weapons to Taiwan who pay for them, our allies who are willing to pay for them, and Ukraine that is taking an IOU for now.

Well, we have a problem, which is that our defense industrial base has eroded. Shrunk. We are our shipbuilding capability, we're decommissioning more ships than we're building right now. And so, anybody who wants to be President of the United States had better have an answer to how we're going to rebuild our defense capability to deter war. Do you think we can deter war through strong military capabilities?

And we always thought that, too. And by the way, this is not the first president who's had a problem with Israel. We know Reagan had a problem, and that's okay. Just, you know, we find about it later then, as opposed to in real time. He also didn't want the Israelis to bomb out the Iraqi nuclear program.

Thank goodness they did. But looking right now, the Vladimir Putin that you know. Is from what you know and from people that have met with him lately, is that the same guy? I don't think this is the Vladimir Putin that I knew.

Now, I don't mean that he was ever a Jeffersonian Democrat, right? And he always had kind of two modes: oppress and humiliate.

So, in that sense, it's the same Vladimir Putin. But this Vladimir Putin, who has decided to act on his ambition, to reestablish the Russian Empire. I think it's a Vladimir Putin who miscalculated as to how hard the Russians would w the Ukrainians would fight, miscalculated as to how strong his army was, and miscalculated as to what the Western response would be. And so we now have to make him pay for that risk that miscalculation. I just don't know if he knows there's a way out.

And one way out might be saying, okay, if we end here and they're in part of Russia, we have to be able to force, put up a barrier, almost like the World War, the Cold War Persian 2s, to say if you go off, this is a tripwire. You're not allowed to take any more than the Donbass region. I suspect they're thinking about a lot of things, but I'll just say one thing. Winter is about to come. And nobody will be able to move after November, December.

We'll see where we are after that. But for now, let's supply the Ukrainians, let's help them in any way that we can, and let's help them to make sure that Vladimir Putin pays a price for his miscalculations. What advice would you have for Kamala Harris? Are there certain people that are archaic in their views of men's and women's and genders? And did you get some of that?

You know, I never really felt it very much. Maybe I'm a little bit impervious for it. You know, Brian, I've been asked many times. Would it have been different if you hadn't been a black woman? And I say to myself, I don't know.

You know, I can't go invent myself as a white man. I did okay as a black woman. I would say, just go do your job. Just don't worry about it if somebody looks a little bit askance. Don't worry about it if people think that you're less because you're just let that be their problem, not your problem, and go and do your job.

That sounds like Booker T. Washington. It is Booker T. Washington. It's also John W.

Rice Jr., who was my father, who told me that somebody else's prejudice is not your problem. That's their problem. I agree. And you kept that philosophy the whole life, even though it was all around you as a kid. I have.

I've kept that philosophy. You were here during the only minute left during the George Floyd riots and everyone examining reparations and things like that. I think things are coming back around. Do you think we're in a better place now, race relations, than three years ago, four years ago?

Well, I think we are in a better place than we were a few years ago, is that people still acknowledge the problems that we have. Look, America is not a perfect country, and we continue to have issues around race, particularly around race and poverty. And so we have to recognize that. But hopefully, people are coming back to a more balanced view of America. An America that, even if it was a slave-owning state at its beginning, has had a black president, has had black secretaries of state, an America that even if it had Jim Crow, let that little girl who grew up in Jim Crow grow up to be secretary of state.

So I think we're getting more balanced in how we think about America. I'm so glad you stopped by. Condoleezza Rice, who's running the Hoover Institute over in State. Stanford and the Secretary of State and former National Security Advisor. Thanks so much.

Great to see you. Great to be with you, Brian. Back in a moment, Brian, kill me, Choe. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show.

I went a little long, Martha, with Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, but I'm able to hurt this segment. But I want you to weigh in on whether you think I was wrong to take her so long in my A block. Do you have any idea? We can still hear you. You can.

Okay. How are we doing? Good, good.

So, yeah, we have a quick minute, then we got a full half hour. But your thoughts about It's going to be all hurricane year coverage, right? Is it going to be by that time? Do you think it's going to hit landfall? No, I don't think it will be until overnight.

1 a.m. to 3 a.m. is what we're looking at. But, you know, when these things happen, you just dig in, you learn a lot more about how these kinds of immense hurricanes work. And there's just a ton of water turned up, which makes sense, obviously, in the Gulf, and can start pushing on earlier than that, earlier than when it hits.

So very low-lying areas, you know, CENTCOM, all of these very big operations in that area. That's right. And they have moved out a lot of our naval aircraft and ships from the region. Obviously, then you get a lot of federal effort in to help as well.

So this is a very big deal, and we're just praying for everybody in the past. Right. And for Myers again. Yes. I mean, it just got crushed two years ago.

I know. I know. It is. I have friends in Tampa who left a few days ago and who never leave. I mean, they ride these things out, you know, they've been there for decades.

And when they told me a few days ago that they were on their way up to Jacksonville, I thought this is a big deal. All right. Martha McCallum, we got some quality time left. We got to talk about what's happening too with this new Bob Woodward book. Yeah, very interesting.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. What did you think of this thing that just came out today? That Bob Woodward's book was saying that. Trump was sending COVID tests to Putin and Putin said, don't let anyone know.

Hey, I mean, is this. What is going on? What do you make of that?

So, I actually said it even in the debate. I believe. That Donald Trump Has this desire to be a dictator, he admires strongmen. And he gets played by them because he thinks that they're his friends. Yeah.

And they are manipulating him full time. and manipulating him by flattery. Hmm.

So that is her answer to Howard Stern. One of the few times Howard Stern let her talk. Howard Stern totally lost his man card. He lost his mind during the pandemic. I know, I've been listening to him.

Since uh high school. And I don't even recognize him. In fact, I think he's embarrassed by his past work. And every time he comes up and condemns things like all Trump voters, he says he hates all Trump voters. No, he doesn't say I hate Trump.

And I feel I hate all Trump voters.

So you hate 70 million people, many of which were your listeners. And then they pop up all these things of him d doing uh Misogynistic things, him wearing black face and all his crazy skits. And he looks like the biggest hypocrite in the world. Martha McCallum here, anchor of the story, getting ready to start at 3 o'clock. But I just wanted you to hear that and talk a little bit about the Bob Woodward book.

But I don't know the bottom line. The source for that, Martha, was one. Unnamed Trump staffer. Trump says, I don't know what you're talking about. But we did make it public that we did send Russia stuff, and no one really objected to it.

Yeah, and that's probably how that shakes out. I think it's very interesting to listen to the vice president talk about people being sort of managed or handled by foreign leaders. And it just makes me think about Iran and the history of. Both the Obama administration and the Biden administration, when it comes to losing our leverage with Iran, I also think about walking into Crimea. And it's interesting also in the Woodward book that Biden points to weakness, in his opinion, if that's true.

That's another element from the book, that Obama didn't take Putin seriously enough and didn't think he would go into Russia. Obama, which is vice president. That's what I'm saying.

So there's two administrations who maybe have been played by Iran and by Russia in a number of moves that really matter on the ground in terms of the geopolitical world that we live in.

So Biden called Netanyahu an effing liar. BB, what's your strategy, according to Woodward? You say, what's your strategy? He goes, well, I'm going into Rafa. He goes, well, what's your strategy going into Rafah?

What do you mean with his strategy? I can answer that. I have to eradicate every Hamas fighter possible, and most of them are located in Rafah. And by the way, the delay on Rafah could have cost some hostages their life. Because we telegraphed the whole thing and fought about it in public.

What Condoleezza Rice did say is this: I won't get into politics, but I despise the leaking that goes on of private Israeli conversations with Americans. That undermines the whole military operation. I think that's true. And I think that there are often probably strong words between leaders because these are extremely important moments and they should hash things out. Again, I don't know, was that you know, is that story based on one source who says that this is what happened?

So, I mean, Woodward's been around a long time. He generally has some good sources. I know it's clear that Lindsey Graham spoke to him for parts of this book. But I think the bigger picture is, and I agree with Secretary Rice, that we don't want to see these kinds of leaks because I think they do undermine presidents' abilities to talk to each other. Right.

So, we'll see where this goes. We know this. I don't see anything leaking out about Harris.

So, if Woodward doesn't include anything about Harris in this book, that's a pure political ploy. Because you don't tell me her ineptness that was on display for three and a half years, whether it's the border or anything else, her uselessness when she disappeared during Afghanistan. Do you know during when they made the announcement and Biden had to own up to the worst moment in modern American military history, she went to California? She didn't want any part of it. I mean, if she's not in this book, that's Bob Woodward saying, I want to make sure Trump's not president.

And it is a shame that we haven't seen any really strong debates or interviews to give her an opportunity to explain that. All she said was, yes. You know, I did support. I was the last person in the room on the Afghanistan decision. I did support it.

So she owns it. And we all know the dominoes that fell as a result of that weakness in Afghanistan. And you can just look to Ukraine, you can look to Israel and the tumultuous world that we live in right now. I want to talk about what happened at CBS. Yeah.

So this guy, Tahisi Coates, did I say his first name right? I believe so. Yeah. So he writes this book and he's a best-selling author, believes in reparations, African-American guy, very good writer, but an extremist. And at CBS, when he came in to do his book, I imagine that they're the same publisher.

Tony DeCoppol, who's on the same time as me, so you probably have never seen him, Martha. He's on doing the morning show, and he asked some pointed questions to Tahisi Coates. And I think you should just hear some of the exchange because the fallout is astounding. Cut 36. Tan Hashi, I want to dive into the Israel-Palestine section of the book.

It's the largest section of the book. And I have to say, when I read the book, I imagine if I took your name out of it, took away the awards and the acclaim, took the cover off the book, the publishing house goes away, the content of that section would not be out of place in the backpack of an extremist. And so then I found myself wondering, Why does Tanahashi Coates, who I've known for a long time, read his work for a long time, very Talented, smart guy, leave out so much. Why leave out that Israel is surrounded by countries that want to eliminate it? Why leave out that Israel deals with terror groups that want to eliminate it?

Why not detail anything over the first and the second intifada, the cafe bombings, the bus bombings, the little kids blown to bits? And is it because You just don't believe that Israel in any condition. has a right to exist.

Well, I would say the perspective that you just outlined There is no shortage of that perspective in American media. That's the first thing I would say. Um I am most concerned always with those who don't have a voice, with those who don't have the ability to talk. Um I have asked repeatedly in my interviews whether there is a single network mainstream organization. in America with a Palestinian American bureau chief or correspondent who actually has a voice to articulate their part of the world.

So I thought this is a good, interesting exchange. I stop. I would listen to it. Absolutely. What about you?

Absolutely. And you know what? Sadly, I'm thinking that this is the kind of conversation that we're getting used to hearing on really interesting podcasts, right? Where there's a very open exchange between people of very different opinions. And I think it's an interesting conversation.

I don't think there's anything out of line in that. It's provocative. It's interesting that Tony DeCoppol. You know, he wanted to nudge that line of inquiry with him. And he's a big boy.

He can, he can take that. He had interesting answers. And DeCoppol got scolded and said that he was breaking CBS ethics. They had a huge meeting. People were crying at this meeting over what's going on because he was reprimanded by basically the DEI part of the mechanism that is CBS News.

I am so shocked. That we live in a world where the conversation we all just listen to is not allowed at CBS News. But by the way, if he lost his temper, if Coates lost his temper, then we'd be: okay, what happened? This guest came in and he lost his temper. What happened?

And then I would probably judge his reactions over the top. But he seemed to embrace the debate. Yes, and he should. He's an intellect and he's also entitled to his opinion. And he can write whatever he wants to write in his book.

By the way, that's the great thing about living in America. And he'll sell it to all the protesters outside Columbia, where in the gas or Arafet started. And who benefits from not hearing this conversation? This is a valid conversation that digs deeper than most places that you're going to really get into in the world we live in where there's a lot of sort of surface treatment of this and people get their news on TikTok in thirty-second snippets.

So here's more, CUT37. I wrote a 260-page book. It is not a treatise on the entirety of the conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelis. But if you were to read this book, you would be left wondering: why does any of Israel exist? What a horrific place, committing horrific acts on a daily basis.

So I think the question is central and key. If Israel has a right to exist? And if your answer is no, then I guess the question becomes. Why do the Palestinians have a right to exist? Why do 20 different Muslim countries have a right to exist?

My answer is that no country in this world. establishes its ability to exist through rights. Countries establish their ability to exist through force. As America did. And so I think this question of right to Israel does exist.

It's a fact. The question of its right is not a question that I would be faced with with any other country.

So He's Jewish, I think. Tony DeCobble, I guess.

So he's that's his uh that that's his point of view. It just seems to be it seems like Coates has the view of those people protesting in the streets of most of the squad. That's the way they feel. I mean, they feel like they're the big tough guys and they But I don't think that anybody who w asked for a two-state solution really has taken any time to talk to either side, because neither one of them want a two-state solution. Unfortunately, that's where we are right now.

I think there are a lot of people who still believe that a two-state solution is possible, but that's not the moment that we're living in. And Hezbollah has been firing rockets into Israel for decades. Oh, I just found out, Alison just told me his first wife and two kids live in Israel. To copulse. Yeah.

Yeah. That's interesting. Yeah. Um use a little more, cut thirty-eight. But you write a book that delegitimizes the pillars of Israel, it seems like an effort to topple the whole building of it.

So I come back to the question, and it's what I struggled with throughout this book. What is it that so particularly offends you about the existence of a Jewish state that is a Jewish safe place and not any of the other? States out there. There's nothing that offends me about a Jewish state. I'm offended by the idea of states built on ethnocracy, no matter where they are.

Muslim included. I would not want a state where any group of people. laid down their citizenship rights based on ethnicity. The country of Israel is a state in which half the population exists on one tier of citizenship. And everybody else that's ruled by Israelis exists on another tier, including Palestinian Israeli citizens.

The only people that exist on that first tier. are Israeli Jews. Why do we support that? Wh why is that okay? I'm the child of Jim Crow.

I'm the child of people that were born into a country where that was exactly the case of American apartheid. I walk over there and I walk through the occupied territories and I walk down the street in Hebron. And a guy says to me, I can't walk down the street unless I profess my religion. I'm with another pal. No, no, no, no, no, I want to go.

This is very, very important. It's extremely important. Lay it down. I'm working with the person that is guiding me is a Palestinian. whose father, whose grandfather and grandmother was born in this town.

And I have more freedom to walk. Than he does. He can't ride on certain roads. He can't get water in the same way that Israeli citizens who live less than a mile away from him can. Why is that okay?

You know the answer is? Security. That's why. It's not that you're doing less. I have to worry about the next cafe blowing up being you, you know, you were in a body bomb.

Yeah, I'm just I find it a really interesting conversation. And I'm also thinking about the mullahs in Tehran and how that religious leadership dominates over the people, many of whom want to be free in Iran. I'm also thinking about the fact that on October 7th, you had kibbutzes where the people regularly volunteered in Gaza. They were the liberal ones. Have been to Israel.

There are plenty of examples that pop into my mind of people living side by side with Palestinians and people of different faiths in harmony in Israel. It's certainly. you know, it is I can't say it's the case in every neighborhood and every Person's experience, but it certainly is a reality in Israel.

So, um, You know, I again, I think it's a very interesting conversation, but the reason we're talking about it is because one party was reprimanded for having this conversation. And that is not a free press. That is not The America that any of us should be living in. This is a conversation that can't happen in a lot of countries, but it can happen here and it should happen here. And CBS should be elevating this exchange and saying we're talking about real things on CBS News.

They did the opposite. He was scolded and reprimanded for even having this conversation.

So Adrian Rourke is the one. Who is Adrian Rourke, Allison? Do you know who she is? I think she's the president of CBS News.

So she's the president of CBS News.

So this was a call that leaked out, a conference call that leaked out. Uh head of news gathering, excuse me.

So listen to her. Listen to this exchange, Cut 40. If any of you have reached out to express concerns over recent reporting. Specifically. About the CBS Mornings Coates interview from last week, as well as comments made coming out of some of our correspondence reporting.

I want to thank every single one. who reached out For your honesty, your transparency, and your commitment.

So, I want to address three things. one. a review of our coverage, including Nindu. It's clear. There are times we have not met our editorial standards.

Number two. This has been addressed. and it will continue to be in the future. And number three, I want to acknowledge and I want to say, I want to apologize that it's taken this long to have this conversation. This is a highly charged and complex issue.

I don't belong in there. And it was really important for us, for Wendy, for me. to have the conversations. to take the time. And the breath, and think, and then proceed in a calm and measured way.

What are you talking about? What standards? And you know what they did after? They hired a DEI expert to come down and talk to everyone. Then they found out the DEI guy had a little basically called Tim Scott and Uncle Tom that had this racial issue.

Up And Then yeah, then then this Dr. Grant was like, Okay, well, you're not actually the right guy to to have this sort of, you know, therapy session with everybody about how we're going to deal with this. And at this meeting that they had, um, Apparently, it turned into a complete chaotic environment that some of the employees were yelling. Shawna Thomas, the show's executive producer, was in tears, and so was DeCoppol over this discussion and raising this open debate about whether it is fair to talk about whether Israel should exist at all.

Now, imagine, as they point out here in the Free Press, great piece by the Free Press. Imagine if someone was saying, let's have a discussion about whether or not. The United States should exist, or Ukraine should exist, more relevant in our current moment, or that we should talk about Ukraine, or that it's okay to defend Ukraine against Russia. That's where this is that's where this is at. Right.

Uh back in a moment. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, we're back, Martha.

Before we go, I need to know who's gonna be on the show. Do you know for sure yet?

So we are going to have Deanna Criswell, the head of FEMA, on the show.

So we'll talk to her. We're also going to have Lieutenant Commander Josh Rannenberg, who is NOAA hurricane hunter, has flown into the storm this morning.

So we're going to talk to him about what that's like. What does it look like up there? And what should people be ready for? Here's Deanna. We also have my interview with Boris Johnson, which was so interesting.

We did it yesterday. It's going to be a longer form podcast. But I thought his answers to a lot of my questions about what's going on in the world were really interesting. I was so disappointed he imploded. Here's what the FEMA administration said in 2022, Deanna Criswell.

Cut three. Goal number one of the strategic plan for FEMA is to instill equity as a foundation of emergency management. It's a really important part of my vision when I came into the agency, and I'm happy to see how it's evolved through the development of our strategic plan. By creating this diverse workforce, it's incredibly important. I would wonder if her emphasis on that stopped her from having the best force possible.

And I just, I'm hoping eventually that mindset gets away. Do you think it's important? I think that mindset is diminishing. I see companies across the country disbanding their DEI office because we all know that the best way to have leadership is to have it be blind to those issues and to impress people based on merit and how you do your job, regardless of what you look like. Yeah, I don't need an Indian transgender person to save me.

I just need the best person to save me. Or a really dumb white person. You know, whoever's the best person should do it. This is Jimmy Fala, inviting you to join me for Fox Across America, where we'll discuss every single one of the Democrats' dumb ideas. Just kidding, it's only a three-hour show.

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