Debate preview: Harris has more to lose tonight than Trump

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. I've learned Brian Killmead here. We're going to have C.J. Douglas, retired Marine Colonel, who worked on the Afghanistan report, the after-action report for the military.

Now he's going to look at the congressional report, 350 pages long. We're going to find out.

Well, we know that President Biden's going to be in New York to screw up traffic. We know the vice president is going to be, is actually in Pennsylvania already. Make the drive over. The president's in New Jersey. We'll get there a little bit later.

And then a little bit later on this show, Kat Timp will be with us, co-host to Gutfeld, north of the new book, I used to like you until.

Now let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. When I say, let's make a change, let's do it together.

So, Miami PD. Really all officers across the world, man, because one officer doesn't, you know what I'm saying, like make the whole group look bad. Like every team has bad apples. That is Tyreek Hill. We've seen now an hour of the video, or a large portion of the body cam video of the outstanding wide receiver with the Miami Dolphins.

And the rest video tells a different story. Miami-Dade County Cops have released it. I see votes on both sides. We'll discuss it. Number two, there was a really pernicious effect of this Doha agreement, this withdrawal agreement that Mr.

Trump put in place on the Afghan national security forces as well as the Afghan government.

So when the president came into office, this is what he inherited. Uh that is a That is Admiral Kirby, the spokesperson for this administration, and his excuses are ridiculous. Politics at play at Afghanistan debacle. I now see how, and we read it, the video, an eyewitness tells the story: politics not involved. Number one.

Her better strategy would have been to hook her into the Biden-Harris legacy, try to make the case. She hadn't had her hand on the tiller, so she needs four more years to finish what started. But instead, she's trying to distance herself. From Biden, no one's buying it. The update day is here, and the stakes for Harris suddenly greater for her than Trump.

I'll explain because of the polls. Forecast and review, both camps have prepared.

Now, I guarantee you, because this Afghanistan report has just come out, I guarantee you that this is going to come up today. And it's going to be very simple. The report is all politics, hence the timing of it. And it's the Doha agreement that Trump cut really hemmed in President Biden.

Now, the problem with that is they've been out of session, number one. Number two is 9-11 is tomorrow, so that makes it appropriate. And number three, they had to do an investigation because for the first two years, when Democrats had the House, nobody was doing it.

So then they decided to do it, and they were stonewalled every step of the way, and they still have not met with the Secretary of State. C.J. Douglas joined us now. Colonel, great to see you. Hey, great to see you, Brian.

So a little close to the microphone. There you go. Colonel, your reaction to you've read, you've had a chance to read this report. Yeah, I actually did. And having read the whole report, knowing that you wrote one.

You helped write a report yourself. They took you how long? It took our report took us about a month. And then all the subsequent briefings and rehearsals, it was a few months at the Pentagon.

So you looked at this. What was your takeaway? My takeaway was there's still a lot of people to be interviewed. like the looking at the the strategic strategic decision making is really what I was hoping to see come out of this report.

Now it's great. I mean, we know that from watching Fox, we know that um Vice President Harris was the last person in the room. We know that military leadership had advised that it was going to fall apart. We also confirmed that what we knew already, which was President Trump had. Set the timeline, however, had delayed, you know, and as he had issued the initial.

Order for withdrawal and then rescinded it. And then Acting Secretary Miller had stated, had sent out a memo, we're not done with Afghanistan because the Af the Taliban meeting the agreement.

So the Doha, these talks were going on. Yes. And it was Khalazad, Taliban representatives, not the Afghan government. Pompeo joined a little bit later, and some other people came in and out.

So this was going on. Where was it happening in Qatar? Right. Right. So these talks are ongoing, and a lot of people think that Khalazad and Gahani had personal problems with each other, so that's an initial problem.

So what was the agreement, roughly, what was the framework of the agreement?

So while I'm not as familiar with that, because what I having read Through the agreement, it was to stop at the attacks. Don't attack U.S. personnel. Don't attack U.S. personnel.

They were supposed to reduce the attacks on the Afghan national defense. Divorce from Al-Qaeda. Yes, divorced from al-Qaeda. And so none of that. None of those conditions were met.

And that was what led to Secretary Miller saying, We're not done with Afghanistan. General Miller, right? No.

So we're talking acting Secretary Miller.

So General Miller had advised as well. Chris Miller. Right. That we You know, 2,500 troop strength would have, as you know, as we've seen, would have remained. Given the Afghan security forces the stability to remain in the fight.

Because you had NATO fighters too. Yes, that's the that's that's the point. Is you know, our twenty five hundred Then has the NATO forces and those together And the continued support, because this is one of the points that's worth mentioning, is the. Removal of that force then led to the removal of our US contractors, which the one advantage If you take away our forces in NATO, the one advantage the Afghan forces had was their Air Force. And removing our contractors, that took that away immediately.

Right. There was a total underappreciation for the role of the contractors. Not understood by Calazad at all. Not at all. Right.

So a series of errors.

So when you come over, first thing they did is push back the deadline to leave from May until September. Right. And you wanted to get out on September 11th, but it wouldn't last until the middle of October. And there'll be no evacuation plan until after Kabul fell, August 16th, for civilians. Right.

And so, you know, during this time, as we were looking at it, you know, I reflect back to while I was still in uniform at Marine Central Command, and it was January. And so at this point, now we know as far as at least as far as President Trump has. communicated that They're not meeting the t the the terms of the agreement, and so U. S. forces are staying.

The next administration comes in and does a review. One of my long-term mentors said to the staff, he said, Hey, if you haven't read Good Night Saigon recently or at all, you better dust it off, because that's if this goes to an evacuation or if we withdraw to zero, which was the plan, That's going to trigger an evacuation, and we're going to be looking at something worse than Saigon. That was in January. President William Lee, when asked that question directly about this going to be another Saigon, he goes, Of course, it's not going to be another Saigon. Then he said no general ever told him Afghanistan could fall like that.

The general Secretary of Defense Austin said that it was going to fall. We know the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley said the same thing. The NATO commander on the ground there said the same thing. CENTCOM. uh from in Tampa, they said the same thing.

So President Biden was determined to get out, and the one person by his side, the last person, was Kamala Harris, in her own words. Last person in the room, so that that is the last person to You know, I would say weigh in on the decision-making is the vice president.

Now, you know. What that um What that shows is like i at least as I've believed all al all along, His plan, their plan was: we're done with Afghanistan. If you look back in his history, I mean, it was the same thing with the Vietnam War. I mean, when he was. He was done, were done with support.

And you would think that this many years later he would have learned from history. He has a blatant distrust, a history of distrust to the military. That's what I read. I was very surprised to hear that. Do you remember when President Obama warned President Obama, the military is going to give you almost no good options?

They're going to give you the options that they want. Basically, they're going to ramrod this thing to you. And that was when General McChrystal was fired and General Petraeus took over. And that was in Afghanistan. They were going to do the surge on the good war.

Right. How'd that go? Yeah, it it didn't. And so if we look at that, and you know, when we're looking at currently at this under the microscope, really, we have to go back. As you and I have talked in the past.

This covers all the administrations. Hey, you know, back to the Bush administration. You know, were we training the right force for Afghanistan? Role going into the Obama administration, the idea of the surge while it worked in Iraq. It wasn't entirely the best plan for Afghanistan.

And had we just maintained a number and continued to develop the Afghan security forces, frankly, the cost would have been down. It would have enabled us to continue to partner with them, but it would have had an assumption of risk that I don't think the administration wanted to take, and President Obama himself wanted out, which is what led to the drawdown in 2014, where I was the last advisor team to lift off in Helman Brown. Here's what Admiral Kirby said in another network yesterday: cut 24. In October of 2020, President Trump ordered the military to do a hasty withdrawal. He wanted all the troops out by Christmas of that year, Christmas of 2020, two months hence.

So there was no significant plan here for doing the withdrawal in a thoughtful, considerate way. President Biden came into office. The Taliban was at the strongest point that it had ever been in years. The Afghan government was at the weakest level that it had been in years, because the Afghan government had been ignored in this Doha Agreement. They weren't even part of that discussion.

Well, they were not part of the discussion. That is true, but that was our decision. Our guys weren't being targeted, but they were targeting the Afghan forces. That's correct. At 2,500.

Troops. There was still stability. I don't believe for. I think if they had opportunity, meaning the Taliban, yeah, they would have conducted attacks, whether there was an agreement or not. They haven't entirely.

I'll um Followed the agreement at that point, anyway. But, you know, while I respect Admiral Kirby, He doesn't go on to say that while President Trump had said, hey, we want to draw this, you know, we're pulling everybody out. He then rescinded that. And then the acting secretary of defense. Sent out a memorandum saying, hey, we're not done in Afghanistan.

We are there. There's no end date. And that's, I read that investigation. Right. That was in your investigation?

No, that was in the NS report. It's true in your pages. You know, what people talk about the Abbey Gate investigation, what we have to remember is the focus of that was at the tactical level. And so it's the. Whether it's the news or the congressional leadership or the administration, everybody says, well, it's like in these competing interests, like the administration says, well, the Ivy Gate investigation showed that nobody was a fault.

Okay, hey, let's look at where the focus was and what the focus was scoped out to be. That was down at the tactical level. The battalion commander and below, really, I would submit, hey, given the horrific circumstances the administration put them in. They did the best that they could. And that's all Kirby focused on the evacuation.

And that's the Abbey Gate investigation. And how many troops are they getting quickly? Oh, gosh, they went up to f over 5,000, if I recall.

So you got in I think it's more than that. They got in quickly thousands of troops.

So if I just know from Trump's his makeup, if he thought Kabul is about to fall, this guy said, Do you want me to he called up what was it? The commit the Taliban commander. Oh, the Taliban. He called up and he said, Basically, do you want me to? There's no security in Kabul.

What do you want me to do? And McKenzie said, We only want the airport. That was the beginning of the end. Trump would say: if you take a move, I'm taking you out. I got the specific.

That's the way Trump profiles. When we come back a little bit more about this and what exactly happened at Abbey Gate and what we were actually told with Colonel Douglas, he's a Marine Colonel, now retired, who was asked to take part in the after-action report of what went wrong at Abbey Gate. Don't move. Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead.

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when they took over Bagram. They got the biometrics on our FKN allies and partners. And they go door to door, you know. and check your fingerprints. And if they get a positive identification.

They are then imprisoned tortured And in some cases Executed. We owe it to them. Otherwise, What good is our word? The United States of America. What ally is going to trust us?

If this is how we treat them. Chairman Michael McCall talking about the report that he supervised and put together, looking at the after action report of what went wrong in Afghanistan in those final hours, those final days, those final weeks. And they're talking about the Taliban getting the biometrics of all those who helped the U. S. And they got hunted down, tracked down, and many times tortured and killed.

Did you know about that, Colonel Douglas? Who you actually did the report on Abbey Gate? Yeah, on the tactical level. The report on Abbey Gate was at the tactical level. I knew about all the classified material and the biometrics being et cetera being left behind.

Through some of the statements, while it wasn't relevant to our investigation, it was horrifying to learn, as somebody who worked with Afghans, to know that some of the people that I lived with and worked with and fought with were potentially at risk. And not just them. Let's remember that their families as well were being targeted. Right. So we left us millions.

In equipment, we left $56 million. Did you see this? $57 million in American funds, $7 billion in equipment behind, the biometric information, and all the other information that we're maybe not admitting they took. But I also think it's important to point out what these guys saw. The Taliban will reportedly whip and kill entire groups of people who showed up at the airport and tried to get through the gates.

They traumatized many service members and foreign officers as well. They forced them to witness the Taliban burning young women and executing Afghan civilians, and they were not allowed to do anything.

So did you find out in your investigation that they saw leading up to the explosion what was happening?

So with that, I have frankly, I have information from both realms. One, from having interviewed Marines that were active actively providing security and working to evacuate people. Two was from having talked with Afghans as they came through Qatar, because if you recall, I had gone forward to assist with the evacuation from Qatar. But then three was because behind the scenes I was involved with Scott Mann and Pineapple. And so one of the things that sticks in my mind is somebody who a US citizen that came through and was told, I don't care if you're George Effing Bush.

You're not getting in. Because at that point, there was so much confusion with who the Taliban should let in that they were turning everybody away. I mean, if you look at the plus, you deal with the Taliban. These are the worst of the worst. They'd hate every woman and hate every American.

Yes. Uh how about this? How about the fact that w they knew where Isis K was? And they had reconstituted and set up camp. And you guys were now, is it true that they weren't given permission to take them out prior to the bombing?

So, you know, from what I've read in the report, that's the case, but it wasn't part of our investigation. I've heard that, and I'm, you know, what I'd like to see, here's what I'd like to see is. all of the rela the um investigations related to Afghanistan. Released. not redacted versions.

even the classified. And they mentioned that, that in this report, that's one of the things they're going to ask for is the Abbey Gate. But as far as what was known as far with the with relative to the strikes, because I know that there were separate investigations For those, I'd like to see that. The investigators were very frustrated with the people they could not talk to. Who did they not talk to that you would want to hear from?

Jake Sullivan is one. Jake Sullivan is one. I'd like to hear from Secretary Kingston. Yeah, I'd definitely like to hear from Blinken. And I know you said Jake Sullivan, but I can't say enough.

I mean, you know, he was the one in charge. We briefed Jake Sullivan. I know Jake Sullivan was involved in the whole process. And gosh, he looked empathetic when we briefed him about the plight of the Afghans that we left behind and the US citizens that we abandoned as well. I cannot believe we're talking about this, and still everyone's in denial.

CJ Douglas, thanks for what you do. Thanks for looking at all this and breaking it down for us. We'll talk to you about it again. It's not going away. Thanks, Brian.

Look forward to it. All right, Colonel, thanks. When we come back, Pat Timp joins us. You listen to the Brian Killmeat Show. Don't move.

A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. There are people who will never be. shall we say, inclined to support Democrats wouldn't because of They just have a different orientation toward women, people of color, LGBTQ, you know, they just are not ever going to be there.

So, say that's about like 30% or something like that. and then uh of the Republicans. That is former Speaker Pelosi, and she's just saying 30% of Republicans are basically racist who wait gays. But besides that, we're very open to bipartisan legislation, perhaps.

So, this is someone who's been around for 150 years, and that is her view, and that's what she's spouting out. What is that view for you? Do you view Democrats like that? To Republicans, do you think you're being characterized correctly? Kat Timfis here, co-host of Gutfeld.

Today is the release of her brand new book, I Used to Like You Until How Binary Thinking Divides Us. Kat, welcome back. Great to be here. How perfect was that clip for what you're talking about? I was like, wow, Nancy Pelosi needs to read my book.

Yes. She really does, because I write in the book, I cover research in this book that there's this so-called perception gap between the parties where people believe that people in the opposite party. Hold these extreme views that actually very few people actually hold in reality. And what she's saying there is actually doing real harm, right? Because that's not reality.

That's simply not reality. I don't know how you could be in politics this long and not get to know a few Republicans a little better to know that that's not true. Or maybe she does know it's not true and she's just weaponizing it for politics. Either way, there are real consequences to this because it just divides us unnecessarily based on something that's not in reality. And that's the concept of your book, right?

How do you talk to people who might disagree with you on things, let alone politics? Absolutely. And I got the idea for this book. I wrote this book while I was on tour for the last one because I went all over the country. I mean, I'm talking from Portland, Oregon to Midland, Texas, everywhere, almost 40 cities.

And I met all these different people from all these different backgrounds. And I realized, you know, what I kind of always had suspected, which is that a lot of us want the same things out of life. Most of us do want the same things out of life. But we just have different ideas about how to get there.

So, this book is basically a guide for how to connect with somebody who you might have some differences with because. You know, you gotta focus on what you have in common. We've been conditioned to believe that you might not have anything in common or you don't have something in common with someone from another party, but that's just not true. And you are somebody who's an independent. Yeah.

And you're on Gutfeld every day.

So you see people that are dug in and thinks Trump walks on water, and you see other people think that he can't do anything right. Yes. What I think also hurts is instead of saying, well, the media is reporting each side, I saw the media research today, look at ABC's coverage. 100% of Kamala Harris's coverage. Is positive.

87% of Trump's is negative. Thinking to myself, there's no possible way in which someone is right all the time except for you when it comes to fights with your husband. And then there's no way Trump is wrong 85% of the time.

So, what do you do when people look at the media and get mad and say, I'm not going to be part of the ganging up against Trump, and I can't possibly be also agreeing with a guy that most of the news networks find vile? Yeah, you know, I absolutely understand why people get so angry and why people see things like this and they get dug in for Trump, right? I do think also, though, that we're at this point now where, you know, people expect you to be fully in on one side or the other, but I feel like a lot of people aren't. I feel like a lot of issues are nuanced. There's more moderates than you think.

I think there's a lot of issues are nuanced. And I think people are always nuanced. People are complex. Just 'cause you have one i view on one issue doesn't mean that you're you have this whole other list of views that fall in line with with that. But I also think that really We sadly don't see each other as human beings anymore.

And in this book, I'm very vulnerable. I share a lot of stories I haven't shared before because I think vulnerability is a huge way out of this mess. I think if you're willing to show you're human, we can see each other as human. Give me an example.

So there's many examples. I talk about, I was on Accutane last summer and it made me suicidal.

So I've never talked about that publicly before. I talk about it in the book. I even talk about how it made me hate myself. It's giving me panic attacks really bad when I was trying to read the teleprompter. I share a little bit of my diary when I was really having a meltdown over the teleprompter, which I was nervous about because I feel like you don't want to admit to work weaknesses at your work in print that your bosses can read.

But I've also thankfully had a coach and I'm better at the teleprompter now. But also, even if I didn't get better, I would have handled it a lot better than I was at that time. And an abusive relationship I was in. There's a lot of things that I open up about within the context because when I talk about mental health in the book, I think that we've never talked about it more openly in this country, in our culture. But also, we give the literal least leeway for anybody who's going through something.

We define people by their mistakes. Depressed. Yeah, we define people. Like you mess up once.

Sometimes when you're going through a mental health crisis, that can look really ugly. When I was going through that, I was the last person that anybody wanted to be around. And I think that that's what's missing. I think that it's hard for people right now because they see around people aren't allowed to make mistakes anymore. If you make one mistake, you're somehow defined by that.

And we're like, okay, but yes, mental health is important. But we're not actually acting in a way that treats it that way. Right. When it comes to depression, a lot of times they look at Guttfeld as a carrier. I mean, could he have been?

Did your therapist sit down and say, hey, wait a second, it's got to be the only thing here that I could help is with the Guttfeld situation. You know what's funny is people who watch the show noticed, but I write about this in the book too. I had people be like, if you don't like it there, just leave. You know, you think you're too good for this. And I.

People were perceiving it as me thinking I was too good for the show, but really I was feeling like the earth was too good for me. I mean, I was, I was actually hating myself at that point. I replied to some woman who said that to me, and I was like, Actually, I want to die because I took this medication. And she was like, I'm so sorry. And I've been doing that a lot lately.

When I see hateful messages, I'll DM the person. I'll be like, that really hurt my feelings. And nine times out of ten, they're like, I didn't mean, I'm so sorry. But I think we don't see each other as human beings anymore. It's not just me, it's everyone.

A lot of people deal with this. I hear you. But having said that, you're dealing with politics on a regular basis. You try to be dispassionate about it, but you are pumped up for tonight, right? Of course, I'm pumped up for tonight.

Are you guys doing live coverage or no? No, we're not.

So that's.

So you have tonight off. I have tonight off, but I'm going to watch the debate. Right, right. Of course. Yeah.

Because you're going to have to comment on for the next five days. It might be all we get. Yeah, exactly. And the fact that this is the first time they've met to me, the drama, right? That's just very interesting.

But I don't know what to expect.

So Kamala Harris did an interview yesterday, kind of under the wire. We picked it up late. It's with, is it with PBS? Yeah, uh Ricky Smile uh Ricky Smiley, whoever that is. Uh but I think PBS, let's listen to a little and tell me if you think this might change your mind if she's ready or not.

He plays from this really old and tired playbook, right? Where he, there's no floor for him in terms of. How low he will go. And we should be prepared for that. We should be prepared for the fact that he is not burdened by telling the truth.

And we should be prepared for the fact that he is probably going to speak a lot of untruths. He he tends to fight for himself, not for the American people. I think he's gonna lie. you know, he has a playbook that he has used in the past um Be it, you know. It his attacks on President Obama or Hillary Clinton.

So we should expect that some of that might come out.

So does that make you more hyped? You know, it's interesting because when she talks about how there's no limit to how low he'll go, he cannot, he obviously can roast people, right? But he doesn't always do that. But what if he doesn't? That's it all obvious.

What if he doesn't? What if what if he is nice. That would be interesting. I think it would be great. Yeah.

I don't really know you. Yeah. I haven't really seen much of you. Yeah. But your policies, I mean, it's looking at your background, I don't even know who you are.

Are you the person for 2014? Are you the person in 2019 who said you want to give prisoners, you want to fund prisoners transgender surgery and the whole fracking offshore drilling's got to stop? And the wall was a medieval vanity project.

Now you've changed your mind on that. Medicare for all, you've changed your mind on that. Who are you? Right. Are you bail fund Kamala or are you prosecutor, Kamala?

Right. Without saying dumb, stupid. She says, okay, we have to be prepared for him to be insulting this and that. I wonder are you prepared for if he isn't? If I if I were I'm sure his team is telling him this, whether he listens to it or not remains to be seen.

But if he stuck to policy and he stayed respectful, she wouldn't get that moment she's looking for. Which is, I'm speaking it. I'm speaking. I was just yes, that's exactly it. She wants to go, excuse me, I'm speaking.

And then everybody, wow, yeah, girl power. That's the moment she wants. If he's respectful, she doesn't get to have that moment.

Now, He has a lot of fun roasting people, though, and the base loves it.

So, I don't know if he's better off if he doesn't do that, but we'll have to wait and see. Kat Timph is here, her new book is now out today. I used to like you until how binary thinking divides us, but he divides us as much as anyone. I thought Mark Thiessen had the best line. He said, You're not speaking President Trump should not speak to his base.

He's speaking to seven battleground states and a few thousand people in those states that haven't made up their mind. You're talking maybe 2,500 in those states. And what about them? You could are they waiting to hear from you to maybe put you into their column so. Yesterday, Nikki Haley was on, and I said, What do you have to say about the ti what advice you have for the former President?

And Cat, she said what you just said. She said, She's not dumb, she's not stupid. It's our policies that are a problem. And I'm telling you, even Republican women are turned off by that.

So if you want to say Joe Biden's stupid, Republican women are fine with that. Democratic women. But if you want to say a woman stupid, Number one, I just I find that very elementary, those terms anyway. Everyone's stupid. You have different expertise at this point.

Someone's quicker than others. Other people are but you know, I everyone's got their own skill set. We're no longer in class. Having said that, you know, he did say over the weekend, dumb and stupid. She's dumb and stupid.

What goes through your mind when you hear that? It's just like, I mean, it's the same thing also whenever I hear something about her past in terms of her sex life, stuff like that. I think all women know what it feels like to have someone say something like that to them. Men specifically say stuff like that to them. And it doesn't make you feel good.

I feel in general, like this has been the Democratic playbook has been to seize on the things that he says like that and look at this guy who's a jerk. And then you go back to whatever bully in your mind who may have called. I mean, I was certainly bullied in school. I think most people probably had some experience of somebody calling them a name or this or that. And it doesn't make you feel good when really you could attack her on her policies and then that's all gone.

They can't do that. The base loves it. The base is like, ha ha, get her, right? But you've already got the base. I really, I know people, for example, who have listened to, for example, a speech at the RC.

And at the beginning, and I was also even blown away by the beginning when he was talking about the assassination attempt. But then he kept talking and then he kind of went back to, he went from Trump 2.0 to Trump 1.0 again. And people are like, oh, there it is. Went on too long, too. Yeah, it went on too long.

But when people hear this, she's a stupid, she's an idiot, they're like, a lot of people think, oh, that's what I don't want to go back to. Right. And that's just it. You want to go back. Trump was saying, yeah, no, we do want to go back.

And the polls show they do want to go back to that economy. And for the longest time, Bidenomics was working. That was all last summer. Bidenomics didn't work. Her approval rating was 32%.

Now, this is what she's saying. The people who have an issue or concern with this idea that you have not done or won't do enough to help people that are having struggles. Look, I know you know that groceries, for example, are still too expensive and we got some work to do there. Part of my economic plan to build an opportunity for people to actually be on track to build that kind of intergenerational wealth that comes with home ownership.

So that's why I call it an opportunity economy. I guess she's done.

So she does acknowledge some of the issues of things being twenty percent more. Yeah. Across the board.

So if you're paycheck to paycheck, it's now a little less. You did get a raise cost of living raise, it's still hurting. And even though they tell you inflation's down and the economy's never been better, I think that ticks people off when you tell them something their living is wrong. That's the thing: you don't need to be someone who reads Forbes. You just need to go to the grocery store to understand people can actually feel this, right?

And you know, obviously, that if things were going well, they'd be taking credit for that. Oh, yeah. And saying things like opportunity economy, you should be able to buy a home. What ideas do you have? Because the ideas that I've heard are very concerning.

I mean, the fact that she even spoke about Price controls. I mean, that's one of the most horrifying things I've heard about. $25,000 for a first-time homebuyer. I mean, it's, it's, it's, uh, you know. I think that, again, these are very real concerns.

These are things people are concerned about. These are things that affect people every day, that they see every day. If Trump can focus on those things, That is a real challenge for him, but if he can focus on those things, it'll be a different debate tonight. All right. There was a time when who you voted for was just a minor thing that no one really talked about.

When we come back, I'm going to ask Kat this question: when Trump goes, whether he wins or not, he's done. He's done in four, he'll never run an election again, or he's done in two months. What changes when he's gone? Do we go back? Kat Timf on her new book, I Used to Like You Until Don't Move.

Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Killmeat. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. She's right now practicing, do you know that?

She's in Pennsylvania. And she's practicing for the debate. She's locked herself in her room. She's got a lot to learn. She's locked herself In a room, and they have one problem.

You know what the problem is? They have MAGA people outside screaming, We love Trump, we love Trump, we love Trump, and they can't focus. I'm not sure if that's true, but I know that they knew where they were located. We saw her walking. Kat Timph is here.

Her book is out. I used to like you until it is out today. And that was President Trump talking about the big event tonight. It's 12 hours away. Kat.

First off, just so we get it in. Do you think when Trump wins or loses? the things get less polarized. You know, I really it's hard to say because I don't think I don't think there's any world in which he actually goes away. And the reason I think that is because he didn't this time, you know, throughout Biden's entire presidency, he always could run again.

We always knew he was going to run again. We always knew he was going to run again, but he was still heavily influencing things throughout Biden's entire presidency. He's not the kind of guy that kind of just sits and quietly and idly by.

So I mean, I think, honestly, I think also things have just changed now. I think people talk to each other in a way, and I'm talking about both sides, in a way where you wouldn't have before, because everybody kind of points out the way that Trump talks to people, and then that's not present. And, you know, people who will talk like that. And I get it, but also it goes from left to right, too, where it's like, if you vote for Trump, it's not like, oh, I voted, you voted for Trump. I didn't.

It's like, you voted for Trump. I'm not speaking to you ever again. Right. And in your real life, and I write about this in my book, where it's politics makes us fight with people we actually know on behalf of these politicians who don't even know we exist. Great point.

So what is some advice you have? I have some advice to lead with vulnerability, be willing to be open and show you're a human. And instead of leading with judgment, be curious about the other person and be willing to say, hey, you know, okay, that's not how I feel. Why do you feel the way you feel? I feel this way.

And honestly, you can actually get people to win them over to your side that way sometimes. You're never going to get anybody to come and see your point of view by telling them they're a horrible person. Right. Don't insult them. Don't insult them.

It can be tough. I get it. But it's your net if you care. And really, the media and politicians, like Nancy's a perfect example, they use this division to gain more power and control. I know if you've seen this study, I think some like 70% of women, when asked, Would they vote someone who supported Donald Trump said no?

How do you feel if that's exactly why you wrote the book? That's exactly why you're writing. You might be the best guy in the world. But if you voted for Trump, I can't. To me, it's incomprehensible as someone.

So I'm independent, but obviously I work here.

Okay. I have a lot of very close friends who are very, very pro-Trump people. And guess what? They're great people. Right.

The way you voted doesn't tell you everything you need to know about a person. And if they don't vote for Trump, are they bad people? Exactly. No.

It's one aspect of a person. It's one aspect of a person. Right. Congratulations on your book. Go pick it up.

I used to like you until. Go get them, Kat. Thank you. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead.

Hi, everyone. Brian Kilman here. Thanks so much for listening. We have a lot to get to this hour. It's Senator Tommy Tubberville on.

What about the Save Act to get some credibility and believability out of our election process, even for the doubters on the left and the right? He's got the Save Act. He'll describe it also. They got a huge illegal immigrant problem in Alabama. We'll discuss that.

I know, Alabama. I didn't think that was going to be it either. And then we'll have a simulcast with Barney and Company. Carl Rove is standing by. We know the President of the United States has come to New York, I imagine, to raise money for his party because I guess he can't stay at the beach all day.

He's going to be departing Queens en route to Wall Street a little bit later. And of course, we got the big debate tonight. Tim Waltz will arrive in Phoenix. He's going to campaign in Arizona where he and his running mate are trailing.

So before we get to Carl, here are the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. When I say, let's make a change, let's do it together.

So, Miami PD. Really, all officers across the world, man, because one officer doesn't, you know what I'm saying, like make the whole group look bad. Like, every team has bad apples. Tyreek Hill arrest video is out. Miami-Dade County released it.

You'll hear some of the audio. I see fault on both sides. The next move by the Dolphins and law enforcement will tell the story of how big of an ordeal this becomes. Number two, there was a really pernicious effect of this Doha agreement, this withdrawal agreement that Mr. Trump put in place on the Afghan national security forces as well as the Afghan government.

So when the president came into office, this is what he inherited. You got to be kidding me. I've never heard ridiculous spin like this, especially for an admiral. Politics at play in the Afghanistan debacle. Not how I see it, not how I read it.

The video and the eyewitness tell the story. Also, They can't escape scrutiny. Harris can't, anyway, as she bragged she was the last one in the room as Joe Biden made that ill-fated decision. And did Trump leave them no way out, really? I'll look.

Number one. Her better strategy would have been to hook her into the Biden Harris legacy, try to make the case. She hadn't had her hand on the tiller, so she needs four more years to finish what started. But instead, she's trying to distance herself From Biden, and no one's buying it. I know.

Some people are maybe. The vice president, part of an administration? I thought so. Debate Day is here, and the stakes for Harris are suddenly greater for her than Trump, in my view. I'll explain.

Forecast, review, and how both camps have prepared.

So, for the most part, Trump has done it through six formal conversations with Tulsi Gabbard, Matt Gates, and his policy crew for Kamala Harris. Six straight days of debate camp. Same lights, same podiums, in a studio, in a makeshift studio, with someone playing Donald Trump, even capturing his mannerisms and his outfits. What. Preparation Format would Carl Rove subscribe to?

Carl, what would you want your candidate to do? Welcome back. Uh one seems to be uh over Rehearsed and the other seems to be under-rehearsed.

So I'd pick the, you know, the The middle course. I mean, I love how I'm thinking back to the debate prep for George W. Bush, and I'm trying to think of Rod Portman. Trying to look like Al Gore. I just can't envision it, but apparently that's the new thing.

Philippe Ranis did do that, wearing the tie and everything, and practicing his mannerisms. They released some pictures. What do you think they're worried about?

Well It's high stakes. I mean, this is a very tight race. She is not well known. He has debated any number of times. She had a few debates in the 2019 Democratic run-up to the primaries and caucuses, but dropped out.

But he's been, you know, he's been in two. two general election presidential sets of debates. And a whole bunch of them in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen, where he's honed his skills.

So if I were her, I'd be nervous about him. He's got a lot more experience at this. And look, we know who he is.

So when he goes out there and sort of breaks the rules, and and breaks the norms You know, his people are forgiving. The question is: of the people who are undecided in this race, you know, 8% or 10%, and the people who are weakly linked to their current choice, probably another 4% or 5%, how are they going to react to these two individuals? And frankly, I'm not certain we have a good idea of how they are going to react given the nature of who they are. They're low-information voters. They may not even be watching tonight.

But it's high stakes. 51 million last time. I think it'll exceed that this time, being that you can't even say, well, dog days of summer. I'm waiting for Labor Day. No, no, this is it.

There's no excuses.

So this is the challenge, Carl, what makes this challenge unique for Trump. And that's her previous positions as opposed to her years as vice president, as opposed to what we think are her positions now. Remember this look back. Cut one. There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.

Assault weapons that are already in circulation. What do you do about those?

Well, there are approximately $5 million, to your point, Craig. We have to have a buyback program, and I support a mandatory buyback program. If someone crosses over the border, it's illegally, it is illegal, and you would decriminalize it. I would not make it a crime punishable by jail. His quest to build a vanity project called The Wall.

This is irresponsible. It's the height of irresponsibility. Right. She now plans on finishing it. She also says that she's for fracking, obviously, not for a buyback program anymore.

And if you cross the border illegally, it is a problem. Also, I could factor in, she now is on the record of saying that she would prefer, she would finance the transitioning of prisoners. We'll pay for that.

So there are some radical positions here, but what do you do if that person says, I don't think that anymore? How do you handle that?

Well, that's the interesting thing because first of all, remember, the people who are up for Grab's minutes election are looking at these people as politicians, and they distrust politicians. They think they change their mind.

So if she says, if she gets hit on one of these and she says, I've changed my mind, if she offers a good explanation. Don't press the issue because Ordinary people will look at it and say, you know what, I've changed my mind on some things. What you've got to show is that she changes her mind, that she vacillates. Remember, the thing that did in John Kerry was not that he had changed his mind. It was he was trying to straddle the issue.

I actually voted for the $87 billion before I voted against it.

So this has got to be careful. You've got to get her. I'd spend less time on changing positions and more time on she is responsible for the mistakes that this administration made in the two biggest or three biggest issues facing the economy, inflation, and immigration, and nail her on those. It's, you know, look, let's be honest. Donald Trump has changed his position.

The guy who helped whose largest political contributions before he ran for president were to help elect Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House in 2006, this guy's changed his positions. The guy who said, I am ardently pro-choice and now says, you know, pro-life, we've got to be careful about this. This is not the central issue. The central issue is. What did she do wrong on the economy, inflation, and immigration?

So you're talking about vice presidency.

So focus on the vice presidency. I don't know if that's a good question. Yeah, focus on the vice presidency. Really? Look, think about this.

Think about this. I have never heard Donald Trump say This woman cast a deciding vote On the bill, The American Rescue Plan that Barack Obama, Secretary of the Treasury and Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors, said, Don't pass this because it will kick off inflation. And yet, it was a Thai 50-50, and she is the vice president, cast the 51st vote to bring up and pass the American Rescue Plan, which Democrat economists were saying, Don't do this, it's going to kick off inflation. And look what happened: Larry Summers and Jason Fuhrman. That's absolutely true.

So, the other thing is, you know, she was definitely, you wouldn't even look at what she was saying in 2019. You wouldn't Even though she ran for president, because at any moment she could say these aren't my policies about Joe Biden. Yeah, look, we've already heard the explanation on fracking. Go ahead and say we can't trust her in Pennsylvania. But first of all, most people don't know what fracking is.

And when she says, well, you know, yes, that was my position, but I got in. We heard it the other day. She said, I realize that natural gas needs to be part of our transition to a greener economy. We can do it much better and safer and with less carbon emissions than we did when it first came out.

So look, time. There's not a lot of time. And 55 days or 56 days after the debate, you gotta stay focused on the things that matter, and the three biggest issues. in this race are the economy, inflation, and immigration. And from the Democratic side, the number one issue for their people is issue number three or four, depending on how you ask the question, and that is abortion.

So stay focused on the things where he has an advantage, because that advantage has dwindled. The president, former president's advantage on the issue of the economy, inflation, and immigration have diminished modestly because he's not talking about her. And he's not talking about what he did. And more importantly, he has not laid out in concrete detail in a way that people can get their hands around what it is that he intends to do in his second term. And remember, both of these people are, in essence, running for their second term.

He's running for the second term of his administration. She's running for the second term of the Biden-Harris now that now Harris-Waltz administration. But people want to know what the heck are you going to do? Here is, I mean, here's what Wilbur Ross says about today's economy: cut eight. Even before this About 30 to 40 percent of all the jobs created in each of the last six or eight months have been government.

Yeah. There has been really no big follow-through in manufacturing. It's been largely government-related health care, things like that, or very low-end service industry related. Those are not the substance of a big booming economy. We need more reshoring.

We need to make things again. I think he needs to talk slower. He kind of lost me there. But the problem is 30 to 40 percent of these jobs are government jobs. Do you think he brings that type of stuff up?

Well, he's got to. He's got to he's he looks. He's not, look, we never expect him to be a policy nerd. But he needs to say things like Yeah, what what what was just said. These the more of these jobs are jobs that are dependent upon government and and not as enough of them are dependent upon America's manufacturing strength.

I mean, last month, I think number one was construction. Good. We're building things. Number two was healthcare. We're making people healthy.

But we want more jobs that are in manufacturing and mining and construction and things that people, you know, that people can relate to as having to do with strengthening our country. Can't diminish the importance of having more people in health care because we've got a lot of people who need good health care. But I think Wilbur was right. You've got to put the emphasis on my object is to bring jobs back to America where we make things and where people have good paychecks and a solid career and they don't need to go to college necessarily in order to have that happen. All right.

I want you to hear what Liz Cheney said about Trump. I've never voted. For a Democrat, I think the stakes in this election. Donald Trump presents a challenge and a threat fundamentally to the Republic. We see it on a daily basis.

Somebody who was willing to use violence in order to attempt to seize power.

So she's focused on January 6th, obviously. Trump helped primary and ousted her from her congressional position. President Cheney is now going to vote for a Democrat, too, Vice President Cheney, I should say. What's your reaction?

Well, I mean, she was a member of the January 6th committee. She feels strongly about this. The former president's actions on that day are going to cause a number of Republicans, and two of them are Dick Cheney and his daughter, Liz, to not support him.

So, you know, to be expected, she, I think, smartly did this in two steps. She on Tuesday in Duke University, she announced that she was supporting Kamala Harris. And then on Thursday at the Texas Tribune Festival in Austin with a lot of national press around, she announced that her father was as well.

So I think it was a mistake. Corp. Trump to respond to it. It drew more attention to it. But this was to be expected.

She is also on the record essentially to paraphrase of Kamala Harris being a danger to the country and basically a socialist. that will never get his support.

So is that a problem?

Well Look, there are a lot of people in this. The people who will decide this race are not the people who have clear-cut opinions either way. They're not the people who say, I love Donald Trump. I love what he does. I love what he did.

I have confidence in his leadership. And people who say, I love Kamala Harris. She has what we need for the future of our country. It's inspiring. It's an inspiring choice.

Those are not the people who are deciding the election. The people who are going to decide the election are of two kinds. One is, I really don't pay much attention to politics and I don't really care that much about politics, but I know I have to make a decision. And which one of these people appears to be better? And the other are people who are conflicted.

People who say, you know what, I would like to vote for Republican, but can I vote for Donald Trump in good conscience? Or, you know, I'm a Democrat, but I'm really disappointed in what Joe Biden has done. And is she more of the same? Or should I go for the guy who did who when he was in office? Things seem to be better than they are today.

This is going to be, the electorate is going to be deep that will decide this election is going to be deeply conflicted.

So you got two minutes to answer questions, two minutes to rebut. This is the part I'm going to focus on. One extra minute for follow-ups, qualifications, or responses. That's when we find out what the moderators are doing. And when you did a media research on ABC and you found 100% of the Harris commentary has been positives, Carl, 100%.

There's no way John Kerry got 100% positive. Reviews. Got a lot. And Trump got 87% negative. Having said that, you got to and with the president of ABC being the 30-year best friend of Kamala Harris.

If you're Trump, you've got to worry about that moment where the moderators assert themselves in a way that might be biased. Would you be worried? I would be, and one thing is to find a way to think about that. I asked Brian Kilmead a question, he gets two minutes to answer, and then your opponent gets two minutes to answer. And then Brian Kilmead has the potential of saying, I need to respond to that, and gets one minute more.

Trump needs to be in a place where he takes advantage of every opportunity to say, I want my minute more. That's going to be the only way that he's going to be able to equalize the amount of time. And he's got to be thoughtful into how he takes the thing at that moment. The question that's on the the table, so to speak. and relates it in that final moment to a bigger thing.

And that's not easy to do, but it's going to be essential, I think, in the debate tonight for him, just as it's going to be essential for her to grab that extra minute. All right. Go get him, Carl Rove. Thanks for your quality time with us here on the Brian Kilneet Show. On the spectacular Brian Kilmead show, as I was told as I was on the weight music, I mean, I thought you were sturdy, reliable, dependable, but I didn't know you were spectacular.

And that's what your hold music says. I think I should change the spectacular. I love it. I love sturdy. Back in a moment.

Thanks, Carl. It's Brian Kilmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmeade. Hey, welcome back, everybody. Let's go out to Jake.

Let's send WTRC in Connecticut. Hey, Jake. Yes, sir. I just think that for all the Trump advisors listening, it might be a good tactic for him. to state that he was not commenting on Kamalus' intellect.

He was commenting on her policies. Her policies are stupid and not her. Not bad. Alex in California. Alex.

Hi. Hi, thank you for taking my call. I think the most important question to ask the two candidates is: where do you plan to hire your advisors from? Because if they come from the same place, the same, say, the same Harvard University, then their policies will end up being very similar. The president is basically a figurehead that sets the direction of the country, but it's the advisors who look into the details.

Alex, I think you're right to a degree. But if you're hands-on, for example, this president's going to be, Trump will be hands-on on the economy. Maybe on the foreign policy, South America, he'll let Rubio go. He'll let the Secretary of State have some autonomy. Every president has their expertise, but they have to answer to the president.

This current president doesn't even have cabinet meetings. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Killmead. They're basically trying to figure out a way for Kamala Harris to manufacture three or four sound bites, right? Is there a Yas Queen moment?

Is there something where it's a TikTok viral moment? Because if you actually talk about the issues, I mean, God knows where she is, and she doesn't certainly know where she is. I know her campaign doesn't know. Tim Walls doesn't know where she is on any of the issues. She's flip-flopping absolutely everything that she's ever talked about before.

So this is like they're going to have to try to manufacture just sort of a theatrical display.

So that is Josh Holmes, used to be a senior adviser to Mitch McConnell.

Now he's on Ruthless Podcast. He joined me on One Nation Saturday night. He said that's the goal of the Harris team, but they don't know a lot about where she stands. And right away, you kind of laugh. And you say, wow, that's trouble.

Maybe it's trouble for Trump, too, because you don't know where you're hitting.

Well, I've changed my mind on that. I don't change my mind here. And the answer is why. Why did you change your mind?

So you don't know what the answer to that is, because she has not answered it. She's changed her position through surrogates and as of Sunday on her website. Senator Tommy Tubberville, kind of new to the politics business, but not the conservative movement. He's on the Armed Services Committee. And he's pushing the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act.

I thought, if you read this thing, it almost should be bipartisan, but it's not. Senator, welcome back. Thank you, Brian. Good to talk to you. What a big day this is.

Yeah, impactful, no doubt about it. We have a lot of ground to cover. But what Josh was saying is a little bit challenging. If the person you look to the left, you don't know where they stand.

So if Trump was somebody who wanted to do mock debates, you don't know what she's going to say to the question, what changed, right? Yeah. Well, first of all, she's going to know the questions. There's no doubt about that.

So she's been preparing to have President Trump. You think ABC told you the questions? Oh, there's no doubt. There's no doubt. You know, they're not going to chance that.

Heck, they tried to shoot the guy. Come on, they're going to do anything they can to beat him.

So Uh at the end of the day, uh, you know. President Biden, for instance, you know, he was in He was in the Senate forever. You know, he's been up here 50 years, but they hid him in the basement. And we even thought he was a little bit more moderate than what he's been, but he's not making the calls.

So now they're trying to hide her in the basement, but she doesn't have that. That history, nobody really knows what she believes in, other than us up here. We know she's a radical socialist communist, and she's going to add taxes, she's going to destroy our country, destroy the Constitution. She's always destroyed the border. What a disaster.

For her to even be nominated by Barack Obama and the surrogates from the Democratic side just to push her in there is an embarrassment to her country. But yeah, it's going to be a stack deck. But I tell you, President Trump, he'd talk to a pet store if you'd let him to. He loves. He loves talking to people and telling his game plan.

But this lady has no game plan. She's going to be all structured. And I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't just cough it up. Football analogy. Just fumble the ball.

It's too much pressure.

So let me just tell you the normal retort that we're hearing through the surrogates. As soon as he brings up the border, she will say, Listen, I was doing the origins of this problem, number one. Number two is you had bipartisan legislation. Senator Langford pushed it. You walked away from it because you were afraid it would hurt your election.

What do you say to that? Yeah. You know, that was a terrible bill. The reason we walked away from it. That that was going to allow five thousand people a day to come across the border.

Basically, what that bill did, Chris Murphy, Senator Chris Murphy pushed that on the Senate was Hey. Whatever they're doing right now is okay, and we're gonna make it right. And we didn't take that pill. I mean, the Republicans said, heck, the heck with that. We need an immigration bill, and they don't want to do that, Brian.

You know that. They want as many people to come in as possible. And it has ruined almost every state in the country with the problems and bankruptcy that we're having trying to take care of these people. And they should be held accountable for that. And of course, I just got back from Central America.

I went down to Boca Toto, Columbia. went down to Panama, the Darien Gap. She hadn't been down there. She's going to say tonight, I went down to the country to try to stop this. I've done more to stop it than she has, and I'm a senator, but she doesn't know the problem.

She doesn't know the reason they're coming across. She's just agging it on and trying to find a way to pay for this, and American people are sick of it.

So, I understand that in Alabama, as it relates to illegal immigration, there was an uproar. Residents of a small Alabama city were up-in-arms at the migrant influx during a recent city council meeting. State leaders demanded answers from the feds as the migrants appeared to be in the country illegally under temporary protective status provisions extended to Haitian nationals by Homeland Security. I don't know how to pronounce this. Salagakwa, just south of NASCAR's Talladega Speedway, is where this took place.

The whole city's up-in-arms. Could you tell me about this? Yeah, what what what's happened is there's a provision of of immigration where you can parole people to come in for a certain amount of time. And it was done for single instances, like people coming in for a transplant or some kind of health problems.

Well, the Biden administration has abused this parole incentive. And they have brought Hundreds of thousands of people in here, supposedly being on parole, but they're they're putting them up, they're housing them, they're paying for their health care, they're putting them in the VAs, they're doing everything they possibly can to keep them here to hopefully get them to vote. And this group just happened to be Haitians. Sean, I was, you know, they're saying right now that people are not coming across the border as much.

Well, the reason they're not coming across the border as much, now we're still having three or four thousand a day, is I was on a plane coming from Bogota back to Houston the other day. Half the plane was people coming from Venezuela and Colombia, and they were illegals and they were being brought in, flown into Houston, flying to different cities across the country. This is an outrage. The American people need to know really what's going on, but they're trying to hide every bit of it. We cannot afford to keep this going.

I know Long Island, we're getting people not just who speak Spanish languages we're not even accustomed to, and it's taking all the services away from other kids. I don't know if you know Long Island, the taxes are already through the roof, even if you don't have kids in school.

So that's one of the reasons people can't afford to. To live here, and they're knowing your taxes are going to illegals who are already getting funding to be here and got flown here is mind-boggling to a lot of people. In your city, in this city, I understand local schools have to find a way to handle kids who speak French Creole, not English. How many French Creole speakers do you have in Alabama? Yeah.

Well, we don't have any Harley teaching it to be able to communicate. But I will tell you this, Brown. We got one big high school in Par in in Alabama that three years ago when Biden Harris took took office, they were about 20% Hispanic, they could handle that.

Now they're close to 80%. That's how much has changed. And there's no way they can communicate with them. They put them in rooms, turn on videos, try to teach them some part of English. It's a catastrophe.

I mean, you can just take a sledgehammer to our country and start. And start destroying it, and you couldn't do any more damage than Biden and Harris have done to our country. It's embarrassing, but it's also going to cost us our country if we don't stop it.

So, where is the safe act now? Tell America what the safe act is. The Safe Act is a bill that several of us put together a couple of months ago, trying to push on Schumer and in the House Basically, it says, hey, you can't vote unless you have proof of citizenship. Uh Unfortunately, we have about twenty states in our country now that are just giving out Driver's license, and these are the blue states. And so, if you've got a driver's license, you know, you go in, you can register to vote, you can sign up for Social Security, you can get all kinds of Benefits.

but somehow, some way, we've got to force it To make sure that people have citizenship in this country. If you're not a citizen, And you vote, it's against the law. And even the Democrats say, Why do we need this bill? I heard Mark Kelly say the other day, why do we need this bill? It's against the law already for Eagle Eagles to vote.

Hey, Senator Kelly, it's also illegal to rob a bank. And so we need to put people in jail that do that. And I loved what President Trump said the other day, Brian. He basically said, hey, if you break the law, in a voting precinct or you vote illegally or you stack the box or you do any of these kind of things, you're going to jail. And that's the only way we're going to stop it, Brian.

So I wanted you to hear, first off, your feeling about the state of the game in football. I know most people aren't going to the NFL. You know what they mean to Alabama, with Auburn and Michigan, 110,000 people there. And this is their moment. But is an education enough?

Well, that horse is out of the barn.

Now, is the NIL and pay too much? What are you and Joe Manchin doing, if anything, to try to get some structure to college sports?

Well, we're not going to be able to get any structure to it unless we get President Trump elected and take the Senate. Chuck Schumer says: unless we unionize all athletes. He's not ever going to put it on the floor. We worked two years on this bill. It was done by presidents, NCAA, coaches, players, parents.

It's the right thing to do.

Now, I don't mind them making money. I've always thought that players should make money, but now this is getting to the point.

Now, they just lost a lawsuit in the NCAA. Every one of the big schools now, every year for 10 years, has to come up with $22 million to pay the athletes. That's above and beyond the money that they're going to spend to recruit these kids. One, two million dollars.

Some of these quarterbacks making $3 million. It's out of control. You're going to run it. You're going to have four or five teams right now. I could pretty much tell you that they're going to be aware of it.

Hey, Coach, you yell at me? I'm leaving. I'm your best player. You benched me to make me grow up or to play better or try to get more out of me. I'm leaving.

That's what they're doing now. Yeah, and you're going to lose the good coaches that can't handle that. I mean, this is, they have more control in the NFL now than they do in college sports. Wow. And not just men's sports.

You're going to ruin Olympic and women's sports. Sports, you know, have the money. You don't have the money to be able to put in the sports because it's just a drain in the schools. I hear you. Senator, I hope you get something done.

Another reason why the Republicans need to take the Senate. Senator Tommy Tuberville, thank you. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. So, I'm going to be able to do a simulcast with Stuart Varney on FBN.

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So let's listen. Keep your window down. Keep your window down, I'm gonna get you out of the car. As a modified, get out of the car. Get out of the fucking break that fing window.

Well part of no Yeah. Hey group, hey Drew, I'm getting arrested, dude. It was crazy, you know, and me being a father, me being a husband, and all that, man, I was just putting myself in that situation. Like, hey, I gotta be smart. Like, I was chilling, like, I was following rules.

You know, man, I'm still kind of shell-shocked from it, man. I'm embarrassed. All right, now, Brian Kilmey joins me now. Brian, this is my opinion. Not one party was right all the time on this thing, and not one party was all wrong.

That's my opinion. What do you say? A couple of things. I listened to the whole thing as much as I could hear online, and it lasted 20, 25 minutes. Oh.

So you should know, whatever he did as a parking viol as a violation, moving violation, they walked up to his McLaren car, which opens up like a DeLorean, but you can roll down the window. When he gets there, you hear him say, roll down your window, roll down your window. And Tyree Kill, the outstanding wide receiver of the Dolphins, formerly of the Chiefs, says, Stop banging on my window.

Now, right there, I'm thinking to myself, I would never in a million years say that to any cop ever, even if I was going the speed limit and maybe I didn't know what I was doing. He rolled it down. And they rolled it back up. He said, roll it down again. And he was slow to do it.

Then he said, open up this door. He was slow to do it. He wasn't getting out.

Now, he said, the reason why I didn't get out right away is because I'm a clarinet, you're sitting deep in the car. You got to lift yourself out. I just had knee surgery, and it takes a while to loosen myself up. Whatever you think about that, he was definitely angry when he said, you know, stop hitting on my window. I would never say that to a cop.

But then when he finally got out, He put it you didn't wasn't sitting quick enough, so they put him flat on the ground. And then you just see one police officer in particular who has just seemed really aggressive. Whether it's these teammates kept getting out of the car, they never identified themselves as dolphins. And it's just told to me, so I wrote a police commissioner this morning. I said, What do you think?

He goes, Let me watch the tape. He came back to me and said, You don't understand. If you're dark windows and you refuse to do the things that he asked you to do, either number one, he could come out with a gun. Number two, he could just drive away. Then you got to run back and lose this guy.

And number three, he could run you over. And you have to, there's no routine traffic stop, you should listen. But I understand too, maybe it escalated too much. Maybe this guy was too hyped up. Maybe he had an experience with something similar.

But I love Tyreek Hill's attitude since. I agree. I agree. He was a gentleman, I thought, trying to smooth. Not when he's pulled over, but since.

Since. I agree with that. Last one. Tonight's the debate, you know that. Should Trump be Trump?

That's what his base wants. But he's not going with for his base. He's going on through the seven battleground states to one thousand five hundred, maybe ten thousand to fifteen thousand people. And those people want to know, hey, is this can this guy do this? You know, is this going to be chaos?

Or is this going to be, hey, this is what I'm doing at the border, we're going to fix it? Common sense. You know, if something works in a state, you do it, Kansas. You do it different, Texas. That's what I'm doing with abortion.

Hey, when it comes to IVF, I'm reasonable. I understand that just low-income people should have the chance to be parents. I don't know if it's going to work out with $1.7 trillion, but I think he could be a reasonable person. And he has no animus towards Biden. He hated Biden, and Biden hated him.

I don't think he hates her. You know, he used to be friends with Hillary Clinton, but then it got out of control. He got angry. I would not be surprised if Trump looked at these polls and says, I no longer need a knockout. The momentum has already stopped.

I can relax a little and let this come to me because she is a talent-rich environment.

Okay, what should Harris do? What Harris would do is, I think she's got to use this opportunity to tell 60 million people what her policies are. And not, we're going to have opportunity, we're going to have freedom for all. I want to say, hey, listen, when it comes to fossil fuels, and this is why I'm in. Hey, when it comes to Medicare for all, this is why I'm out.

When it comes to the border, this is what I did wrong. This is what I learned since. Wolves aren't vanity projects, and here's what I said. That would be fascinating. If she knows she's got this she's got her two minutes.

So she could just take those two minutes and define herself because she won't talk to anybody. She could, but I just somehow doubt that she will. We'll see. Brian, I'm out of time, but thanks for joining us. See you real soon.

Go get him, Stuart. Stuart Varney, thank you so much. Hey, let's go out to Brian at WDBO and Orlando. Hey, Brian. Good morning, Brian.

Thanks for doing what you do. We appreciate you. Dick Cheney is going to come up in this conversation this evening, I'm sure. And Trump needs to get elected, and he needs to do so by attracting voters who don't necessarily agree with every decision he makes or his attitudes. He needs to go about Dick Cheney by saying, hey, this is a great American.

I hate that he feels differently this time around, but it doesn't mean that I can't respect the man.

So that the voter... Who are on the fence saying, How can I possibly vote for Trump? can sit there saying, you know, Same kind of thing. I can vote for him. I might not like everything about him, but I could vote for Football.

Well, Brian, I'll meet you halfway. Here's why. You know, I he he always has held, even though he wrote in his book something different, his second book, uh, since he became a candidate. I was against Iraq. I think Dick Cheney was behind it.

But this is really about Liz Cheney's problem with me and a father defending his daughter. Most of my principals are conservative. There's no way he agrees with her and all this stuff. And Dick Cheney does not have a big constituency. And then move on.

You notice Bush. He doesn't go after Bush anymore. They have a détente. Not going to vote for anybody, not going to endorse anyone.

So I think that Cheney got involved because it's family first. He should just say, I understand that. I actually like Dick Cheney. He is not a villain. He's a great conservative thinker.

He's given a lot to this country. Secretary of Defense, Chief of Staff for President Ford, came back as a very impactful. Vice president. He actually redefined what a vice president is. Up until then, the most productive was like Al Gore did a lot.

But nobody was as active as Dick Cheney. And then, after a while, President George W. Bush said, You know, I got this. And he didn't like it. And they didn't end on the best of terms.

But I think they respect each other now. Let's see. I mean, the Republican Party changed a lot when it comes to free trade, when it comes to overseas wars. We'll see if Dick Cheney would fit in for Trump or not. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show.

Brian In Kill Mead. Yes, you can approach me anywhere. Brian Killmeat Show. It's going to be a big day, debate day, and debate night. Even though President of the United States is here today, he's out of the fray, as you know.

It's going to be President Trump who's going to make his way from Bedminster over to Philadelphia, not a far drive, probably fly. And he's going to take on Kamala Harris. And what's going to happen? 90 minutes, two breaks. We know about two minutes, muted microphones, and another two minutes to report.

Then, one minute if the moderators or anybody else wants to come back at him and say, well, you're wrong about this. And you heard Carl Rove on with us earlier saying, Max out the time. Always take that last minute to clarify again.

Now, we've heard that over and over again. I'm sure Trump doesn't need to hear it. He's 78 years old. He's done this seven other times. Try to keep the personal attacks out of it.

You heard Nikki Haley say that to me yesterday on Fox and Friends: say, she's not dumb. She's not stupid. Don't bring it up. She got to a certain point in life. We're all pretty much the same.

Some people are a little quicker at different things.

Some people are mechanical.

Some people are book smart.

Some people have great common sense. You pick your candidates.

Some have strengths, some have weaknesses. Whatever. It doesn't do any good, man or woman, to say you're just dumb. You're just stupid. Policies, I don't get it.

It's almost as if you're going out of your way to destroy the country. Why else would you let 10 million people here illegally? Why else would you have 3 million gotaways? Why else would you allow cities to be overrun like Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco? And now we see small cities in Alabama.

Why would you do all that? Then you could say the policies are dumb. Just leave it out of the person.

Now, I thought Carl Rove brought up something I wasn't expecting. And that is I was going to bring, remember, Donald Trump used to support Democrats. He used to support Chuck Schumer. Nancy Pelosi came to his office, they knew each other. And he changed his mind.

She could come back and say, Why can't I change mine? That was years ago. And he's got to be ready for that.

Well, I can't, you know, you changed your mind. First year for zero weeks on abortion, now you're for exceptions and financing IVF.

So he's got to be ready for that. He's got to be ready when she says, strong on the border. I was strong on the border. Look at how low the numbers are now. He's got to know that they're flying a lot of people in.

And also, Mexico is basically laying out right now and keeping people on their side. They want Joe Biden to win. There's no question. But it's what's happening with those other countries. With us right now is yes, she's going to be with the Shirley Center, Katie Britt, Bob of the Hour, Stephanie Baker, an award-winning investigative reporter at Bloomberg News and author of a new book called Punishing Putin: Inside the Global Economic War to Bring Down Russia.

And I'll add this: Putin is now acquiring. Short-range rockets. from Iran. You might even be getting them for free. Why are we allowing that?

Anthony Blinken speaking out in London against it.

Well, what are you doing about it? You got to come back with strong Sanctions. Why are they allowed to sell oil to China? Why not secondary sanctions on China? Why are we just sitting there?

I mean, instead, we're basically telling Israel if you're going to hit back on Iran, it's got to be measured. We're not gonna we're gonna have Hamas at the table in these negotiations. It's just the wrong message.

So let's get back to the debate. Bernie Sanders said it all. And this is what President Trump should bring up. You said you're four fracking, you changed your mind on the border wall, you changed your mind on Medicare for all, you changed your mind now. You used to, and I'm sure you're going to walk it back, but as late as twenty nineteen, you wanted taxpayer dollars to fund transitioning prisoners, to let them switch prisons and become other genders.

Taxpayer dollars.

So you say you want to change on that? Why should we believe you? Why should we believe you? You're different from a DA, from senator, when the most liberal.

Now you said after three and a half years of seasoning, you changed your mind. And then Bernie Sanders let the cat out of the bag, didn't he? When asked, are you concerned that that. That progressive that you were friends with, that was in the Senate, has changed. Cut two.

Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals? No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she's trying to be pragmatic and doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election.

So yes, her views are not mine, but I do consider her progressive. Yeah. She wants to get elected. Isn't that everybody's fear? You just say what gets you elected, you do the opposite.

Sometimes you get the job and you realize it's harder than you thought, closing gitmo with President Obama. Getting out of Afghanistan with President Trump. You realize I can do a lot of what I said, but sometimes I get in here and it's almost impossible. What I think, when I look at these rules for the debates, So you get the no pen, only a pen and paper, blank sheets, no pre-written notes or props, two-minute answers to questions, use it all, two-minute rebuttals, use it all, and this, one extra minute for follow-ups, qualifications, or responses. Jake Tapper and Dan Abash didn't do much of that, much to the chagrin of many on the left.

I'm wondering if if Muir And the other anchor will do that. Because that could be a difference. And you heard Senator Tuberville said I'm sure she got the questions ahead of time. Katie Britt joins us now, the Senator from Alabama on Appropriations. Senator, welcome back.

Hey, thanks so much for having me, Brian. Enjoyed listening to you, and I think you're spot on. I hope that tonight we actually see these moderators make her answer questions. Because if you've been doing this for, she's been the presumptive nominee now for 51 days, you know, and been in this role. She's only sat down for one interview where she brought her, you know, emotional support person, I guess, like had a, you know, the VP had to walk along.

Yeah, had to sit alongside her, which to me was just really bizarre. I mean, she's not going to be able to take him into every meeting. And we want to see what she's going to be like when she's looking eye to eye with Vladimir Putin or Xi Jinping. I just thought it showed a weakness that was really unfortunate for the position that she hopes to hold.

So you see that she's taken no off-the-cuff press questions, no press conference.

So we deserve answers as the American people, and we are about to elect a commander-in-chief. We know where she has stood on policies. We know that she now, on many of them, is being untruthful about where she lies right now. And I think that I hope the moderators push back, show those inconsistencies, and get answers for the American people. This is what people are down on.

100% of the stories from ABC, 100% on Harris have been positive. 93% of Trump coverage has been negative. He's suing George Stephanopoulos, and a judge looked at this, the merits of this suit and says this is going to go forward. And the best friend of ABC on ABC, running ABC News, is the best friend of 30-year best friend of Vice President Harris.

So if you look at those things. You gotta wonder if you're gonna get a fair shot. You see Stephanopoulos, who is, along with Muir, the top guys at ABC. You see the way they go at any surrogate that goes on, whether it's Nancy Mace or Tom Cotton, almost disdain. And they have the debate.

So Trump has got it in his head, not let that rattle him.

Sometimes it really takes him off, center. Yeah, but look, I think President Trump's going to come into this focused. He knows what is at stake. I mean, we saw that level of discipline in the first debate, and he knows that on policy and on issues, he's going to win. And when you know what you've just said about the mainstream media to be true, I mean, you just gave the percentages.

I think we could give anecdotal evidence as well. I mean, you look at the way they covered President Trump's no tax on tips versus the way they covered Kamala, not even saying that she was parroting him, not even saying that she completely ripped off his idea, but also kind of embracing it as a positive versus a net negative in the way that they did with President Trump. I think you can look at it with just general media stories.

So I just referenced the fact that she's answered no tough questions, no questions, period, actually, from mainstream media, but yet you see the AP that is supposed to be a standard bearer, write an extended tough piece about what's Food she likes, Brian.

Now, listen, I think that's great Instagram content for her campaign, but that is not what the Associated Press should be demanding answers about. Like, I'm glad she likes Doritos. I like Doritos. My husband likes Doritos. He plows through a bag in the middle of the night if he wakes up, if you know what I mean.

Like, but that is not the kind of thing that the American people deserve answers on right now. We need to know, you know, you look at Putin's aggression into Ukraine, we know that that happened under both Obama Biden and Biden Harris. We look at the fact that she has bragged about the fact that she was the last person in the room before Biden made the decision about the disastrous and botched withdrawal from Afghanistan. We know the weakness that that spread. We know that it undermined our relationship with our allies.

It emboldened our enemies. We know what Xi Jinping has planned. We know what he's doing right now. We need to know if she is capable of standing up to those men. And the truth is, at this point, I think she has given us.

Absolutely, no reason to think that she's even ready to be in a room with them. And in fact, her decisions are contrary to what is best for America. And that's why we need President Trump. Yeah, I mean, look, a year ago, 32% of the country approved of the job she's doing. And a year ago, Senator Congressman Jamie Raskin and Nancy Pelosi, back-to-back days on CNN, would not answer the question: is she a good running mate for President Biden?

And Jamie Raskin has to play the sound bite with Nancy Pelosi doubting her being a good running mate for President Biden. He said, I don't know.

So they say, just in Chick Dabber says, I'm giving you an easy question. Do you think she's a good running mate? He's like, I don't know.

So we knew where she was.

Something changed in June. Actually, nothing changed.

So all the doubts are there.

So their answer is: let her stay in a cocoon until I have to bring her out because momentum is going to sustain her because she's not Donald Trump. Here's the good news. Things have changed. Listen to Matt Towery. The Sienna poll shows Trump with a slight lead.

Nate Silver shows him winning in every battleground state. I think it's going to be tough on all of them. But listen to Matt Towery a pollster. Cut five. The battleground polls that I do are showing the same thing you're seeing in this New York Times poll, and that is the numbers that Trump had when Biden was in the race.

Are beginning to come back to Trump at about the same levels as before Harris became the nominee or the designated nominee.

So you're seeing a complete return to where Trump was before.

So, this is what's important. What happened to Joe Biden after that debate? He did three network interviews, a press conference, and daily rallies. And that forced him out. He tried to save his career and it failed.

This will for if if she does not do exceedingly well. She's going to be forced out, and then all hell is going to break loose because Senator, she doesn't put the time into study. This is not what she doesn't know what she believes. She doesn't. And I think what we have to believe is where she's been her entire career, which is left of Bernie Sanders.

There's the reason, and now this is the kind of thing that the AP should be reporting on and others widespread, is what Bernie Sanders said over the weekend. Oh, don't believe her. Don't believe what she's saying. She's just saying what she needs to do to get elected. She's with us.

And so, whether it's the fact that she wants to make sure that America is not only not energy independent, but certainly not energy dominant, she, I don't believe, understands the cause and effect of all of those things. I mean, you look at binomics, which she has been touting as working. She's been saying it's great. It's great. Look, Americans are smarter than that.

We feel that it is not working. We know that prices are higher. We know that wages are down. We know that our dollar doesn't go as far. And what is her answer to high grocery prices?

Let's cap them. It's very a Marxist approach of just let's cap the prices everywhere. And if she were doing Her homework to your point, she would know that their profits last year were about what, 1.7, 1.6%. And so, those margins, I mean, you're attacking family farmers and you're attacking local grocers when, in fact, you need to be attacking your own policies. You need to realize that we need to become energy independent and energy dominant again.

You need to take a look at the inflationary spending that occurred through your inflection of excessive cash into our society. And you need to look at the overburdensome regulations that you're literally putting on every single industry. She's talking about giving people a credit for home ownership. Brian, why don't we look at what regulations are doing? I mean, 25% almost of a new home cost is directly attributed to regulations.

This administration continues to attack, attack, attack. And at the end of the day, the little guy is paying the price. And so we need someone that is visionary, someone who understands how to get this country back on track. And Brian, it's not her.

So I got that sense that you don't believe it, sir.

So, in Alabama, they had this story that I pulled out because I knew you were coming on today, and I mentioned this in a Tupperville. This is a small town right outside Talladega. City council meetings erupted. Why? Because they're putting thousands of Haitians into your town, and now they're into the school system.

They might be the greatest people in the world, but they don't speak English. They're here illegally, even though they're going through the current system.

So now they're putting all these illegal immigrants in the middle of Alabama from a war-torn area into schools. We know nothing about these people. We know there was just a Haitian that just was all hell broke loose in Albany, New York, where they just flew a whole bunch of Haitians in there, one of which was a rapist and was at his act again, was dressed as a cop, impersonating a cop, trying to pull young ladies over and do what you can only imagine. What could you tell me about this city outside Talladega?

Well I What what you're seeing In what you're talking about just shows why we are saying that every state is now a border state. Under the failed policies of border czar Kamala Harris. Let's not forget that she was put in charge of this. This was the one job that Joe Biden gave her. She has clearly failed.

Also, realize that when you're talking about flying these migrants, and those people are not counted in the number of people that we have, we know is upwards of 10 million people that have come across the border under the Biden-Harris regime. And when you're talking about what's happening in our schools, I talk to a family member of mine, talk to friends, talk to teachers that are in the classroom. They have English-speaking students, they have Spanish-speaking students, they also have these Haitian students as well. They have three different languages that they're trying to teach in a kindergarten class. What happens is that every single student pays the price.

Every single student, Brian, because they become more babysitters than they do instructional teachers. And then we have learning loss, and it's unfortunately. Is taking away opportunity for our very own children to achieve the American dream. And when you think about these children in those classes, it certainly can't be a good environment for them either. And so I wish Democrats were being honest about the strain that this is placing on every community across the country.

You talked about the crime, you talked about what we're seeing. It's a real challenge, and I think this is just another example of it. I think President should, yeah, talk numbers and talk these stories. And sadly, family members, what they've told him about the lives lost for these illegal immigrants. Senator Katie Britt, thanks so much.

Hey, thank you, Brian. I appreciate being on. All right, more debate preview. Also, we're going to look at this Afghanistan report and take some of your calls. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. Covering this election year like no other. It's Brian Kilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show.

Hey, welcome back, everybody. Let's go out to Howard. Listen on WABC in Florida. Hey, Howard. Hey, Brian, how are you doing?

I just want to present my view of what this debate is really about. I look at it as a job interview, and the American public are going to have to decide who's best qualified. To run this country. And I think that goes towards President Trump's strength, really, because when you're looking at Kamala Harris's policies, they're really, really weak. I mean, she was in charge of the border.

She was also in charge of the National Space Council, which left two aspects in space distribution.

So also when you're looking at the border, like you can't just look at crime. You have to look at the big picture. The cost to each state to take care of the migrant and the fentanyl. Fentanyl is huge. Based on CDC, fentanyl deaths related deaths went up to seventy five thousand in twenty twenty one as opposed to twenty nineteen thirty six thousand three hundred fifty nine.

So That is a huge amount of data.

So, I mean, if you're just looking at crime. And you look at crime, you're looking at the border, you're looking at the economy, and you look at her track record and you mention space. I mean, the only thing she really feels good about is talking abortion. Goes to an abortion clinic. I always thought that abortion should, the Democrats thought abortion should be legal, but rare.

She actually gets a rite of passage. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Well, I fully agree that our allies need to do more all over the world. And the Europeans are finally really stepping up in important ways.

I do think, by the way, it's remarkable and probably not what Putin had in mind that we have Sweden and Finland now in the alliance who have real military capability. Yes, the allies should do more, but it doesn't let us off the hook to do the things that we need to do. Right. And if you would the thing that we need to do is lift the restrictions, in my view, on Ukraine and let them survive instead of being victims. They know where the Russians' these attacks are coming from.

We give them the weapons to hit them, but we tell them you can't because we're afraid of escalating the war. The war has already been escalated. It'll keep going up until Russia wins, unless we do something. Stephanie Baker is an award-winning investigative journalist and works for Bloomberg News and the author of a brand new book, Punishing Putin Inside the Global Economic War, to bring down Russia. Stephanie, great to see you.

Thanks for having me. The news, I just wanted to get to respond first off with what Condoleezza Rice said, your thoughts about pushing allies to do more and we should do more. Yeah, we should do more. And obviously, Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, has been asking. For ages to be able to strike Russian targets inside Russia to be able to defend against these constant missile attacks.

I was in Ukraine in June, and it's almost a nightly occurrence. There are air alerts, Russian planes taking off from airfields, attacking Ukrainian cities deep into the country far from the front line.

So, how much damage has been done when you walk around Ukraine? You know, in Kiev itself, very little. I did go outside Kiev to a city that was the site of a Russian missile attack where you could see some of the damage from previously in the war. I did not go to the front line. Ukraine has just hit Moscow with the biggest drone attack to date.

They say, according to Business Insider, Moscow has been forced to close three of four airports.

So he wants to bring this war to Russia and the Russian people, because they didn't even know what was going on, some of them. Right. I mean, as I reported in my book, Putin has a tight grip on the media and power in Russia, and very little gets through.

So both the Kursk incursion as well as the ongoing drone attacks across Russia is an attempt by Zelensky to bring the war home so that Russians really feel the effect. Last I saw, they took 500 square miles in Kursk. You were just in Ukraine. It's been, I understand by reports, it's been a huge morale boost. What could you tell me?

No, it has because this is, you know, I think they took. Russia by surprise, which is a classic military tactic, right? The Russians weren't expecting it, and the Ukrainians were able to make rapid advances.

Now, what the Ukrainians were hoping to do, which was draw Russian forces away from the Donbass to try to defend Kursk, that did not pan out. And the Russians are continuing to push ahead. But it's a question mark of how long can they hold Kursk, and are they doing it to try to give them leverage if they are forced to the negotiating table? That's embarrassing, isn't it? I mean, this is the first time a nuclear power has been invaded since World War II.

Right, exactly. And there was no nuclear power prior to World War II. Right, right. And they've basically crossed what was considered to be Putin's red line, that he would potentially react, potentially use tactical nuclear weapons, and that didn't happen. And Crimea wasn't the tourist stop.

It was supposed to be this summer. It was constantly under attack. The Ukrainians miraculously, and they'll be. Running about this in war colleges. And lecturing on this, they've taken out a huge chunk of the Russian Navy without a navy.

Exactly, yeah. No, that's been sort of underreported, how successful they've been at reestablishing control over the Black Sea and taking out targets in Crimea. When I was in Ukraine interviewing senior Ukrainian military intelligence officials, you know, that is very much a target. They think that they can really block off. Crimea from the rest of Russia.

Remember, it's only connected by this bridge.

So it's actually quite vulnerable, even more so in some respects than the Donbass itself. I was seeing some pictures. They actually have mobile missile defense on the bridge. Yeah. So, I mean, they know it's going to be targeted again and again.

But if I'm a family, middle-class family, I'm going to pick another summer vacation spot. When he took it, he was a hero. He was like, I can't believe it was ours anyway. Khrushchev never should have given it away. There's a different vision on that now because it obviously bars the Ukrainians giving it up.

Yeah, no, absolutely. And how far they can push. It's been really crucial to the economic battle, right? Because reestablishing Ukraine's ability to reestablish control over the Black Sea has enabled it to resume grain exports, which has been really important for everybody. Right, exactly.

And their economy.

So you write the book from the economic perspective. Their thought was, and Joe Biden trumpeted, we're going to put so many sanctions on them, we're going to make them pay the price. But they have. And it seems, if we're to believe their numbers, their economy is doing okay. The military-industrial complex has expanded.

They've become a military country, and they're using a lot of allied material from North Korea, China, and Iran. That's the reality. The reality is it's true that Biden has imposed unprecedented sanctions against Russia. We've never done it on this scale before. Never has a country as big as Russia or an economy as integrated.

Not enough. But I think it's a mistake to say that the sanctions haven't cost Russia anything. They have imposed real costs on Russia, you know, capital, flight. Hundreds of billions of dollars, brain drained, hundreds of billions of dollars frozen. They could do a lot more to enforce the sanctions.

And particularly, the linchpin of the Russian economy is oil. It's the thing that has been the mainstay of the Russian economy going back decades. But they're selling it to China at a discount. They're selling it to India at a discount. Where else are they selling it?

Well, those it's Russia has successfully reoriented its global trade of oil to Asia. And India went from importing something like 1% of its oil from Russia to 40%, which nobody saw coming. And they've done it by assembling this shadow fleet of oil tankers to operate outside of Western restrictions. And they've sanctioned about 60 of these ships, but they need to be sanctioning more of them to really kind of shut that trade down. But yet India is an ally.

As far as I can tell, we have not pressured, even though they're allied with Russia, especially because they want to hedge against China. But we have not pressured Modi to not do this, that you're lengthening the, you're increasing the pain on an innocent country that was invaded. You're acting like an outlaw country. Do you think there should have been some pressure on Modi to a degree at least dial it back a little on these purchases? Oh, there has been pressure on Modi behind the scenes.

There's no doubt about that.

There's been various trips of U.S. officials. To India. But remember, when the U.S. responded to the war, they came up with this.

Um Policy towards oil that they wanted to keep Russian oil flowing because they didn't want a price spike globally that would cause gas prices in the U.S. to go up.

So it's been a real challenge. How do you cap Putin's revenues without causing pain at home, in Europe, in the U.S., with higher gas prices? Increased production might be one. Stephanie Baker, our guest, her book is Out Punishing Putin Inside the Global Economic War to Bring Down Russia.

So we know now it's two years old, this war. Zelensky does not want to back off, just had a huge shake-up over there with their government. Is popularity strong among the Ukrainian people? I think it remains strong. It's gone down a bit.

I mean, it's been really hard. It's hard at everybody, right? Yeah, no, it's really hard. Here comes winter. Yeah.

But there was just a poll out recently that showed it's actually the Ukrainian military, it's people who have served that are most invested in keeping this war going. There might be some softening support amongst Ukrainians more broadly, but. But they've paid such a huge price that to give up now would be a real disappointment. Do you think that they were almost at a situation where they have some leverage to get to the table and not have to give away the store, or no? Yeah, the problem with a ceasefire, I think a lot of the Ukrainians worry when I was there, you know, that I talked to, is that it's going to be just a repeat of 2014.

It'll be a temporary ceasefire. It'll give Putin a chance to regroup, rearm, and he'll come back for another bite at the cherry. Would we do something where we line that line with missile defense and we talk about NATO membership two years away once they get their economy standing up again? It's true. It would give Ukraine the ability to build up its military and the USA.

I think they're thinking twice. Can you imagine if the innovation that they've come up with and the strength in which they've fought and the respect they now have, I mean, who in Russia wants to do this again? Yeah. Right? No, absolutely.

But I don't think Putin has given up his ultimate goal of controlling Ukraine. He still does not believe that it is a legitimate country with an independent existence. A couple of things I'd just like to get from you. I have no idea your answer. I don't believe.

That America's military-industrial complex is benefiting from this war. I think that in our view, we much rather have, even though we're modernizing through this, javelins are going out and we're getting new stuff in. If we had our drothers, we would not be doing this. People think that uh America is is helping Ukraine and it's In our interest, besides helping an ally. But it's not in our economic interest to help out, is it?

I think it is because most of the money is going to draw down stockpiles and place orders at new defense factories in the United States, which is creating a lot of the same. But not at the point that we wanted this conflict. We didn't want this conflict. No one wants to be able to no one wanted this conflict. But the theory that their military industrial complex wants this is crazy to me.

I don't think they want it. And I think one of the problems is Ben, it's slow to start up some of these contracts with the defense industries. And we found out that we need a lot of stuff, and now Taiwan's been waiting for stuff that they paid for for years that's supposed to make that a porcupine type of defense. To me, our military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about got too small. Yeah.

I think we should fan it out. Let these guys compete for contracts again. Yeah, I mean, what we're seeing play out is this post-Cold War peace dividend, and now we have to just pay. Pivot. And we're back into a new Cold War, which is something I explored in my book.

It's obviously different than the last Cold War, but we're going to have to be spending more on defense. We have a new coalition that we're up against of China. Russia, Iran and North Korea. All those four countries are working together. We've just seen today Iran is providing Russia with short range ballistic missiles that they are going to use against Ukraine.

And a new wave of sanctions have been announced, coordinated between the US, UK and Europe. Uh So getting them off the Swift system we thought would be a good move. But it's pushed them to get off the dollar. And they combine with this BRICS alliance now, which I think consists of Brazil, India, Russia, China, South Africa. Um I'm not sure who else is in that alliance, but it.

Are they getting closer to pushing the dollar off the world currency? And do you think that maybe it's working against us, forcing Russia to deal, do international trade without the dollar? Does that hurt us in the long run? Does it hurt our leverage around the world? I think the reports of the dollar's death are greatly exaggerated.

And I think that you still see in Russia, they're desperate for dollars. There was just a report recently they were importing $100 bills from the Rwandan military. But why? Because nobody wants to put their money in Russian rubles or Chinese won or Indian rupees. Let's face it, you know, those are not fully convertible currencies.

They're not stable currencies. Everybody's... Correct? Exactly. And as I detailed in my book, India has been buying all this oil from Russia and paying with rupees, so that meant that Russia was sitting on billions of dollars of rupees that it didn't know what to do.

The Indian currency, the rupees, yeah, yeah. All right, so they're sitting on it, but they don't know what to do with it.

Well, they've had to come up with creative ways of trying to spend the money. More 'cause who else wants Indian rupees, right?

So India is a major manufacturer of pharmaceuticals. That's one thing that Russia could buy with those. I I uh I totally agree with President Trump. I didn't really know about the Nordstrom one and two. Until you start bringing it up.

But to say to all these East, Western European countries, we're defending you, but yet you're actually having an umbilical cord to Russia through this. I'd love that Nordstrom 2 got blown up. I'd love to be the number one supplier to Western Europe, a consistent customer with great natural gas reserves. Do you feel the same way as an American? And does your research reveal that?

Well, look, one of the biggest effects of the war and the sanctions and Europe's decision, and of course the bombing of Nord Stream, is that one of Putin's cash cows, this gas giant, state-controlled gas giant called GasProm, is losing money hand over fist as a result of this. It relied on this piped gas into Europe. And now that Europe has found other supplies and has cut off Russia, I mean, it's very small, the amount that European countries are importing, they've tried to pivot. Russia has tried to pivot to China, but they don't have a pipeline that can carry the amount of cash. Europe was such a big customer.

China cannot replace that yet unless they've got the infrastructure to do that. Are you worried, or should you be worried if you're Zelensky, the U.S., about this whole black market of still importing Russia gas? Like, I hear some of our allies are still importing it. Is it significant? Of natural gas and oil from Russia, buying it from a third partner.

Right. So, what Russia is doing is trying to ramp up what's called liquefied natural gas, which you can ship. On vessels rather than in pipelines, which is you know, the U.S. is a major exporter of liquefied natural gas. Which fracking yields.

Yeah. But it is coming under pressure. The U.S. has sanctioned several of Russia's LNG liquefied natural gas producing production sites. And they've sanctioned a couple of vessels that are shipping that.

So that is for anyone to see. You can track these vessels. Anyone who's got a subscription to the marine traffic can do it. And finally, Vladimir Putin's mental health. We got it under a minute lab.

Where is it at right now? That's a million-dollar question, isn't it? He's very shielded. You know, it's still very restricted. It's unclear who he's really listening to inside Russia and how he's getting accurate information on the state of the war in Ukraine.

Stephanie Baker has got a really important book, Punishing Putin Inside the Global Economic War to Bring Down Russia. This really would, I was hoping a foreign policy discussion and debate would bring up situations like this. You've done the hard work for us, Stephanie. Thanks so much. Congratulations on the book.

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