Honeymoon over? Trump gains 4 points against Harris in new 2024 poll

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So glad to be here. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. We're back in action now. It's got a big week. It's a big week.

It's a debate week, obviously. The Afghanistan withdrawal, that's in the top of the news. And we don't even know what's going to be coming our way afterwards because. New polls are out that shows this race is really tightening up. This hour, I'm going to be talking to Brett Baer and Mike Rogers.

He's in a virtual dead heat in Michigan to be the former congressman to be the next senator there in that open seat. Before we get to Brett, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. What if I was a Tyreek Hill, bro? Worst case scenario. It's crazy.

Like, I want to be a cop one day. I got a state trooper had all that, you know, so I got a lot of respect for cops, man. But obviously, everybody has bad apples in every situation. Wow, Tyreek Hill, the outstanding wide receiver, formerly the Chiefs, now the Dolphins, got arrested and got cuffed and got brought to jail and was let out. Week one, Miami Dolphins receiver gets in some trouble, then helps his team win a game.

And then pantomimes that in his end zone celebration. One of the officers is put on administrative leave. The incident left Tyreek baffled but not rattled. Plus, Tom Brady makes his rookie debut in the booth. How did he do?

We'll discuss it. Number two. The foreign policy is at stake. What happened after Afghanistan? Impacted the world.

Why? Because Putin responded by invading Ukraine, and then the Ayatollah reared his ugly head. In the Middle East There you go. That is Michael McCall, Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Afghanistan disastrous withdrawal report has been released, and the Biden administration looks even worse than expected.

While they have no choice, they have to deal with the Trump cut. We'll have the overview of all the VP Harris says. It was the last one in the room. Number one. I think the reality is is Donald Trump is preparing more than he is letting on.

There is nothing formal. There are no mock debates. None of that is happening. But he is doing these sort of informal policy talk sessions. Debate Day, a day away.

The stakes, the strategy, and the rumored preparation. We go behind the scenes, plus, new polls. Have Trump in front on this debate eve. We go inside the numbers and what voters say they want from Harris. Let's go to Brett Baer.

Brett, I'm kind of stunned. I look at the New York Times poll. The president picks up four points. He's now up by one. I look at Nate.

Nate Silver, and he has got him in a pretty good spot. And I just think he's got him, it looks like he's winning in every battleground state in his unique way of doing polling. At the very least, I think it's safe to say the momentum has stopped as we get close to this debate. Would you say that? Yes, morning.

I think that's true. I think we saw started seeing that about a week and a half ago in some of these polls, kind of a flattening out of the vibe, the momentum out of the DNC and the original switchover. I think that there's a lot of internal stuff, if you look in that New York Times Sienna poll, that suggests More and more people are wondering exactly who Kamala Harris is, policy-wise. And they kind of know who Donald Trump is, both the good and the bad, but they kind of know. for the most part, what he's promising to do.

Uh and that is a difference. I mean when you have Donald Trump As the centrist figure in a poll. you know, that's interesting. And much more centered than she is in that New York Times Siena poll. Yeah, do you think Kamala Harris is too liberal or progressive, or not liberal or progressive enough, or not too far either?

Too liberal, 44%. Not liberal enough, only 9%. Do you feel like you should still need to learn more about her? 28% said yes for the sitting vice president. Only 9% said they need to know more about the President of the United States.

And here's the key: Trump occupies the center, as you mentioned. A near majority of voters say Trump is not too far on the left or the right.

Well, only one-third says she is that he's too far to the right. Nearly half of the voters, in contrast, say she is too far to the left. I actually think it's a great moment for the American voter because, Brett, people think it's about you or me wanting to get the interview with somebody. It has nothing to do with that. Candidates need to speak to the press of the people.

The town halls, the press do interviews, whatever their features or their one-on-ones. But she's done one and she's told people: This is the spices I like, and this is the food store I shop in. You could do that if you do the one-on-ones. And then you change positions and don't even list on your website. And they think the American people are just going to hate Trump so much, they're going to vote for her.

And they're obviously not buying it. And I think that this that's what that poll shows, and some other polls track that. And you know, the strategy of only doing the one debate and staying away from the media. I think it is backfiring. At first, everybody's saying nobody really cares if she does interviews or not.

We're going to ride the vibe. And this honeymoon, and I think we're seeing the end of that.

Now, this debate tomorrow is going to be consequential. I mean, both sides realize that. I think it's possible this is the only debate. I hope it's not. Paper statement out from the Harris campaign that they were committing to one in October, but it hasn't been locked in.

And obviously, we're trying for that as well.

So they put out a statement. When did they do that? I missed that. when they said uh the debate over debates is over, That statement said September 10th, and you'll also see them on the stage in October. Uh okay.

It's interesting. Real quick, I want you to unless Cheney, cut one. I've never voted. For a Democrat, I think the stakes in this election. Donald Trump presents a challenge and a threat fundamentally to the Republic.

We see it on a daily basis.

Somebody who was willing to use violence in order to attempt to seize power.

So she will vote for Harris. And so will Dick Cheney, the most conservative people you'll meet. You know her. You had her on the panel many times at Fox. I've known her too.

So your thoughts about this, to me, I'm not that surprised. I love the way everyone's making a big deal of it. I don't think it moves the needle at all. What do you think? I don't think so either.

I guess there are some independents somewhere that look at that and say. you know, she's Trusted, um, you know, and obviously she sees something that other conservatives don't see. Um, But from the January 6th committee, it was pretty telegraphed where she was.

Now, I think it's a little bit more surprising that Vice President Cheney is going to vote for Kamala Harris. That is That's so um Besides january sixth, That is so antithetical to where his policy. basis. That, you know, I think that's a little surprising. I would like to hear from him.

Yeah, well, to me, it's family first, and that's how she feels. Not only did she take on the former president, she co-chaired that committee, and then she got primaried by the former president's candidate, and she got drummed right out of politics. And there was only one person responsible for that, and that's Donald Trump, in response to what she did. And as you know, she lost her leadership position, then she eventually lost her seat. The other significant thing is this: Bernie Sanders, when asked, are you concerned that the far-left senator and vice president is now trying to turn into a moderate?

Cut eight. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals? No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she's trying to be pragmatic and. doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election.

She has another approach toward moving toward universal health care. Yeah.

So don't worry about what she's saying. She's not going to do that. Yeah, that's the quiet part out loud. That is No, she's just trying to win an election if you just shorten that. just a little bit.

And um remember, I mean on the rankings of senators, She was ranked to the left of Bernie Sanders on policy. I I think that that answer at CNN was the most troubling politically, and this may be the results that we're seeing in the New York Times Sienna poll is when she said, my values have not changed. And then it created a storm of not only made-up videos online, but But actual ads where they just ran her words against my values have not changed. And that is what people, I think, You don't want to know. I assume that the former president's going to go down that road, but how the dance goes on the stage.

is really going to be amazing.

So today they released, or last night they released the Afghanistan report. The Chairman McCall released it. He was Chairman of. Of the conference, and now it's out there. Seven public hearings, 20,000 pages of documents, 18 transcribed interviews, and They really talk to the session.

I haven't read all 300 pages, but I read the summaries. And I'll get to 300 pages. It's so much worse than I thought. It looks like. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of Defense, the Commanding General of NATO, it looks like CENTCOM Commander, even the Secretary of State, all recommended that we don't leave at the timing the President wanted to leave, and he said, the hell with it, we're leaving.

And that is he's on his own, denied anyone told him different. That would be a problem if Biden was still a candidate, certainly with his legacy. But the vice president said I was the last one in the room.

So you cannot say she's removed from it. And I don't see anybody who believes that it wasn't the biggest catastrophe in American military history. We left behind not only men, plus 13 men, 170 Afghans were killed. in that explosion, forty five U. S.

service members were hurt. But with seven billion dollars in seven billion dollars in weapons, the Taliban likely gained up to fifty seven million in American funds that were initially given to the government. And we're still paying the price for that, and now it's become a terror haven. What does this report do?

Well, a couple of things. Not only that, but Vladimir Putin saw that and was much more emboldened about Ukraine. China started doing things. Iran was much more active. It had rippling effects around the world.

I think that this report is really Really pointed and pretty detailed. And now there's going to be a ranking report that counters this. to to what it can. But even people on You know, the left, Democratic lawmakers have said they have a real problem with the Seth Moulton and others. Um I I think it's a a big problem.

And you add to that You know, Bob Woodward's got a book called War coming out October 15th, which apparently is going to track.

Some of this. From the inside and not be very flattering to President Biden or Vice President Harris. It's impossible to spend this positively.

So the big thing is: well, I had no choice. The Doha Agreement was done. Fine. Except for you did. Ned Price admitted that the Taliban's adherence to the Doha Agreement was, in fact, immaterial to the Biden-Harris administration's decision to withdraw.

Jake Sullivan was at the nexus of this. I think Ambassador Khalazar did a terrible job. It was his decision not to put the Taliban, excuse me, not to put the sitting Afghan government in these talks. Evidently, he had a personal problem with Gahani.

So he did relatively secret talks. And I think it would have been stopped. There's no way Trump would have allowed his ego and have let him allow Afghanistan to fall like that and let the Taliban provide security. There's nothing about his makeup that would have allowed that. The Doha Agreement, I thought, was a bad move.

And you read H.R. McMaster's book, The President Had It Right and started listening to other people in his party that thought he had to keep a campaign promise and get out in time. By the next election.

So there is some fault there, but not in the execution of this. Uh, Brett. I agree. And I think if you read in the 300 pages, and I've gone through some of it, and I've got. Folks on today to digest it.

I think there are a lot of details here that. That are troubling, you know? And that sound bite, you know, I was the last person in the room, yes. Um we'll come back and it's likely going to be on the debate stage. Tomorrow night.

It better be. And the other thing is, if people think, well, that's not really. The Vice President doesn't do much. We knew right away that Vice President Joe Biden was against the bin Laden raid. We know it.

He said it. It was a fact. I was against it. I thought it was too risky. He said it to this day.

So it's not like vice presidents in the past haven't spoken up and either were listened to or not. She had a chance to speak up. She didn't, or she didn't support it. It doesn't matter. She's not on the record being against it.

And in the past, Democratic administrations have. In fact, Joe Biden has. And lastly, she is tied to foreign policy. She's tied to Biden foreign policy. Like, there's no real separation there.

She can't, there's not a wedge that you can say, oh, well, the only thing that she separated from at all was that she was much more vocal. against the Israelis. But as far as other foreign policies, she's tied there. And you know, Bob Gates, former Defense Secretary, legendary said You know, but Joe Biden's been on the wrong side of foreign policy issues all his career. Um and that was devastating back in the day.

This potentially has a bigger impact than I think we're thinking about. And lastly, a vast majority of the information could have been provided, provided answers about the. Abbey Gate explosion and ISIS-K attack, but there were some were deleted or destroyed in the wake of the bombing, including the destruction and deletion of photos, videos and more. As a result of the destruction of the drivers' servers and information systems, CENCOM only had access to 25 pictures of the crowds at Abbey Gate taken between august twenty and twenty-six, denying critical insights as to what happened leading up to that.

So I mean, are people covering themselves up and they knew that they killed innocent people, they didn't tell anybody when they responded to the attack by killing who they thought were Isis K behind the Abbey Gate explosion? I mean, this just gets worse by by the revelation. Yeah, it does. And if you think about all the press conference afterwards with that drone strike that goes after what they say are ISIS K and it's this family uh in Afghanistan and the fallout from that. And then you know These are major, major foreign policy decisions.

And they did a lot of that to appear aggressive in the wake of what clearly was not going well as a PR. foreign policy decision and uh And that too, it was a mistake. Also, as a President, Obama said, I'm closing Gitmo. That's what he ran on. He realized he couldn't close it.

It happens, right? It was almost impossible to move these people out. The public sentiment wasn't there, and the countries wouldn't take these people back.

So either we kill them or leave it open.

So we had to leave it open. The world went on. There was no clamor.

So it's incredible.

So preventable. Brett Paer, I look forward to a special report tonight. Who are your Afghan guests?

Well, we're working on some lawmakers that'll be in common ground, and it depends on the ranking, the force of the ranking report, whether they're willing to come out. But we will have a Democrat and a Republican analyzing this report. Go get him. Brett Baer, thanks so much. I understand, of course, Brett will be all over the debate coverage, the post-game show and pre-game show.

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It's Brian Killmead. Hey, welcome back.

So, Tyreek Hill, I don't know if you've seen the video, gets pulled over on the way to the Dolphin game. And while he's getting pulled over, you can just see it. Everyone's just taping it. Then his offensive line basically stops. One of the offensive linemen got arrested.

Along with Tyreek Hill, he got brought back in cuffs. And then Hilgaim came out and spoke to the press after. He scored an 80-yard touchdown. I don't know if he mouthed off to the guy or not. I don't know what would cause at 1 o'clock in the afternoon, just someone for speeding, even though they were in a really nice car, you know, if he came out.

And just how it went from you're speeding, you're under arrest. Was he evading arrest? Was the music blasting? Did he not hear the sirens behind him? Does the body cam show he was wising off to the cop?

So I'm not gonna jump on anyone's side, but as of right now, the cop's been suspended on leave. per the investigation, and it seems very similar to Scotty Scheffler. He's trying to get to a tournament. There was a traffic jam. He tries to drive around it.

The cop to escalates it and the guy has since been suspended. Uh Athletes get special treatment, maybe, but in these two cases, Sky Shovel, definitely not. And in Tyreek Hill. Doesn't seem to be. It looks like there's an overreaction.

We'll see. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Killmead. Finally, this is really important. The Bager Prisons.

unleashed thousands of ISIS-K prisoners. that went to the Corazon region. Eight of those, and that's few we know about. have been detained by the FBI in the United States. that got in through the southwest border.

This is a failed foreign policy colliding with a failed Border policy. All at the same time. Chairman of Foreign Relations, Michael McCall, released a report today that he had it up with 18 transcribed interviews, at over 20,000 documents, and they were slow-walked a lot of it by these investigators and by the Pentagon, who don't want the answers on the Afghanistan withdrawal, the biggest disaster in American military history. And guess who was responsible? President Biden.

What I think is so, and I just repeated it with Brett Baer, but I'll do it again. You should know that. That on the record, they found the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley, the Secretary of Defense, Austin, the commander of NATO in the country, as well as the CENTCOM commander, as well as the Secretary of State, all told Joe Biden, you should not leave at the timeline that you have and the way you're doing it. And he trumped all of them. And guess who was in the room when they did it?

Kamala Harris. Guess who said that, Kamala Harris? And in case you don't think vice presidents really can sway anybody, maybe they can't, but the decisions are known. We all know that Vice President Joe Biden was against the bin Laden raid. How do we know that?

Because it came out even at the time that Barack Obama took risk, even didn't have his vice president agreeing with him with all that foreign policy experience. Congressman Mike Rogers joins us now. He's the former chair of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intel and former FBI guy, military guy, now running for the Open Sea in the U.S. Senate and Michigan. Mike Rogers, welcome back.

Brian, always good to be back. And this is so breathtakingly bad. This report just highlights candidly what we already knew, that this was a disaster of epic proportions. And it was based on willful decisions between Biden Harris And Democrats who cowardly hid behind their desks during this whole event. Right, but I think we are learning new things.

Number one, the fact is they didn't want to provide documents. The fact is, they destroyed tapes, videotapes, as well as destroyed flash drives and photos. It would have helped unwind what happened even at Abbey Gate.

So I think that this is, and they're saying this is a bipartisan thing on timing.

Well, the reason why it was delayed so much is because they slow walked all the information. Number two, they've not been in session. And number three, guess what this week is? This is 9-11. That's everything to do with Afghanistan.

Absolutely. And I thought Chairman McCall did a great job of highlighting why these decisions have consequences. Certainly, for the 13 military personnel that we lost, our hearts go out to them and their families who are going to bear that burden the rest of their lives because it didn't have to happen. And now, with the fact that on the southern border, they caught eight of these folks who were previously imprisoned in Afghanistan, think of that, that we know have ISIS ties, and that's just the ones we know about. And that's why the FBI director has been saying, hey, everything's blinking red.

We have a high threat terrorist level in the United States. We're coming up on 911. These are the things that we should hold these Democrats accountable for come November. If you want continued bad decisions, Brian, if you want us more entangled in the Middle East versus being engaged in the Middle East, Then Democrats are your way forward. But the deaths of the two soldiers.

in the Middle East because Iran proxies were attacking our Basis that they just don't want to talk about. The very October seventh is because they walked away from Saudi Arabia going after the Houthis and took the Houthis off the terrorist list, empowered them, we gave Iran billions of dollars that they gave to the Houthis and Hezbollah and Hamas. I mean, they are an utter disaster and they're going to get us into a wider conflict. That is dangerous to our national security. They have no response to Iran hacking into the cyber attacking the Trump campaign or the two assassination squads that came here to go kill Trump, one to go after Nikki Haley.

We know that they left $7 billion worth of weapons behind, $57 million in American funds that were initially given to the Afghan government. Get this. The NATO report also revealed that the Defense Education Enhancement Program found the Taliban was using U.S. military biometric devices and databases to hunt down America's Afghan allies. You believe this?

And the NEEO, the NEO. Which is for the non-you know, for the non-military people, there was no plan to get the non-military out until August 16th. You know when Kabul fell? The 15th. This guy said pull out the troops and left everybody behind.

It didn't see any problem wrong with that. And I really blame the military people, too.

So, and it's you know, some of the things that they I look at the Doha Agreement. General Milley told the committee that Ambassador Khalazad did not consult the U.S. military in developing the Doha Agreement. I think that was a disaster. You should never have left the Afghan government out.

The decision to withdraw would have been different with the former president because as soon as conditions started falling apart, Trump says you broke your word. But when the conditions started falling apart, that just sped up the reason to leave. And think of all the other things that they promised at the time.

Well, they won't they'll all of the freedoms that women have. They'll still have.

Well, that was wrong. That they won't have ISIS or Al-Qaeda constituting itself in Afghanistan.

Well, guess what? That's wrong. That's happening. And when they left that, you know, the number one seller of American military gear around the world is the Afghans right now. They're selling all of that 80-some billion dollars worth of equipment.

They're selling off a bunch of it for the cash and selling it around to countries that don't like us very much. I mean, everything bad happened, and it just seems to have gotten worse. And they just can't manage their way out of a paper bag on any of this. And it risks the homeland. That's what people, I think, are failing to see here.

Those countries. catastrophic decisions are now putting Americans at risk. Uh, in the United States of America, you can put you know, that's because of their open border, by the way, which has other risks. Including criminal gangs come into a neighborhood near you. It is really a disaster.

And I just can't imagine. That Americans are going to stop for a minute and go, Yeah, I kind of like this. This worked for us. My God. Or see politics in it.

When we saw the video, there's no politics in there. You know, they said the State Department sat on their hands. And when the military said, you know, you guys are waiting too long. This is going to get dangerous. They say, we're less concerned about, I guess we're willing to take more of a risk than you guys.

So the State Department is showing that they're cowboys. The military says, you have no idea the hell that's going to be coming here. And they just ignored them. And I think state that under Anthony Blinken is just an epic fail. But listen to this.

According to Marine Combat Logistics Officer who was conducting a pre-deployment site survey from July 10th to July 13th at the airport, said the preparation plan he submitted had not been implemented at all. Said the Taliban reportedly whip and kill entire groups of people who showed up at the airport and then tried to get through the gates. The traumatized service members, American service members, and foreign officers as well, service members were forbidden from intervening to stop the Taliban from brutalizing Afghan people. They were forced to witness the Taliban burning young women to death and executing Civilians, including children, and were told by this administration, you cannot intervene. Oh my gosh.

I also talked to somebody at the Bogram Air Base. who was telling me that uh at the time, they had our allies helping secure that facility. And they were Afghans who had been committed to America, taking risks for America, taking risks for the future of their own country. they were not allowed to tell them. They literally packed up in the middle of the night.

And people, the next shift that came to the airbase walked in and no one was there. Can you imagine this? These are your friends. These are people who you are counting on to keep our soldiers safe. But the next time we go into a region and try to help out a country or help out a people, what credibility do we have?

Nothing.

So let's talk about your race over in Michigan. It looks like you're four or five points down. On the real clear average, you're five points down. Congressman, how do you close the gap? And how much is relied on how President Trump does on Tuesday?

A couple of things. Our internal polling shows something very different. The problem with Real Clear Average is they include these wild polls. That have an 11-point swing on them. We discount all of that.

Our internal polls based on registered voters who are likely to vote shows us tied. And so we believe we're tied. And so now our whole point is, can we get enough of our information out to get voters to come out and go to the polls? I mean, clearly, I think tomorrow is an important day because it shows just how unready that Harris is To be president. And, you know, Bernie Sanders said it best.

No, she hasn't changed. She's still the same liberal. She has to say what she has to say to get elected. That is so dangerous for a state like Michigan. My opponent, Congresswoman Flatkin, supported that agenda 100%.

Now we have layoffs happening in the state because of the EV mandates. People don't want them. The car companies are losing their shorts. Think of that. Ford lost.

100,000 plus on each EV they sold.

Sold, they lost $100,000. They had to charge off almost $5 billion. because the government intervened in these business. And at Michigan, when manufacturing across the country gets a cold, Brian, we get pneumonia.

So our whole thing is can we get the message out that we have a better way to do this? We're going to bring down your grocery prices, bring down your energy prices, bring down the pressure on rent prices. And we can do that if we do this right, and we will do it right. And the second part of that is tomorrow night, I think America gets to see her stumble around and try to say, you know, I was for this, now I'm for that. I'm for this, and now I'm for that.

And matter of fact, our opponent is doing the same thing, avoiding debates, avoiding the press, and now starting to change her positions. I I what my whole point is, listen, we know who they are. They went back to Washington DC, created the problems that we have. Including people having to go to the food pantry in the last couple of days of the month just to feed their family. And these are working folks.

I mean, this is as bad as we've seen it. We cannot tolerate another four years.

So I'm hoping Trump does his best work tomorrow to point that out. And we're going to keep bringing this economy home. I did this. this diner tour, Brian, around the state. And what I have found is there's more common sense in the average Michigan diner than all the committee rooms in Washington, DC.

We're taking their message to the state, and we're going to take their view of what should happen in this country to Washington, D.C., versus Washington, D.C. coming to us. You mentioned this battery plant.

So the Chinese want to open up a battery plant in Michigan. First, Elisa Slotkin is for it, and then she realizes China opening up a battery plant, maybe not a good idea.

Now she seems against it, almost down to they're almost done. Right outside of Flint, Michigan. Yeah.

It's actually a little north of there. But and here's the worst part of it. She signed a nondisclosure agreement as an elected official. to facilitate, I call it cash and prizes for this Chinese company, $175 million in direct cash payments to build this company that's going to bring Chinese engineers to Michigan and their technology. Or when 85% of everything they build there has to be processed in China.

She signed a nondisclosure agreement so they could get the money, and then it's it's worth over a billion dollars between that cash. Uh and um a tax credits. And she didn't say a word for years. She just hasn't said a word. And then all of a sudden she says, Well, maybe we should do a security review.

Are you kidding me? The community has been in an uproar for two years. She didn't want to talk about it. She wanted to hide from it. That's why they signed a nondisclosure agreement.

And now it's coming to light that for this if that thing gets up and runs the way it's supposed to, forty percent less labor to build those cars, it will be tens of thousands of Michigan jobs at risk. And they want to give them money to do it because they're just so enamored with their plan for electrification of vehicles. And boy, I could just go on for a long time, Brian. Our electric grid isn't ready. We don't all the the critical minerals really have to go through China to get it.

We're Given one-seventh of our economy to the Chinese Communist Party. And now that it's election time, I call them political zicadas. They come out at election time and they go, Oh, gosh, guess what? I'm for you. I'm not for all those things.

Well, where in the heck have you been for four years? And when the election's over, those cicadas are going back in their hole and they're going to vote against us for the next four years, too. I did wonder what happened to cicadas. I thought they just died, but they're the size of small dogs. I'm getting bigger.

Mike Rogers bestowed on. They're noisy, too. They're really noisy when they're all out. Have you noticed? I noticed, too, you're everywhere because the President's coming to Michigan a lot because he wants to win Michigan.

And the Republican Party is, let's say, finding itself in Michigan. A little bit of a challenge in terms of infrastructure. Mike, thanks so much. Hey, thanks, Brian. We're going to bring this home.

Rogersforsenate.com. You got it. 1866-408-7669. We'll come back. Take some of your calls and fill you in on what else is happening, Brian Kilmead Show.

Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Killmead. How do you think he is actually? getting ready for this debate.

He doesn't. Get ready. I mean, as someone who was in charge of debate prep in 2016 and 2020 for him, it was a constant struggle. There were times when we would go and debate prep would be scheduled. We'd go in to sit with him and he would just say, No, I'm not doing it.

Bye. And that would be it. And it just wouldn't happen. And so, my guess is that, you know, especially now, as you said in the lead up. You know, his seventh general election presidential debate, he really doesn't think he needs to prepare.

He believes that just whatever his gut instincts are are what's going to carry him.

Well, we'll see. There's a few different reports. He does not do FOMO, there's no doubt about it. He's not doing what Kamala Harris is doing, and that is she's on two, she's got two podiums. Philippe Rains, who used to work with Hillary Clinton, is playing Donald Trump.

He's done it before, actually wears the tie and the suit and goes out aggressively, they think, like Trump, and they go on for hours. And Trump, on the other hand, says, I'm talking to people every day. That's my training.

So here's the deal. Muted mics, no live audience, only pen, paper, and water on stage. Nothing pre-written. This is what I think is key. Two-minute answers.

Got it. Two-minute rebuttals. That's interesting. That's a little unscripted. One extra minute for follow-ups.

Clarifications or responses, which leads me to wonder, ooh, wait a second, what did they what did the many on the left criticize the CNN moderators for? Not being fact checkers, not being clarifiers, not doing follow-ups when they think that Donald Trump was not telling the truth, or let alone the other side, they don't think that.

Well, Rick Klein, who's been on before, director of politics for ABC, says, Is there a role for fact-checking his answer? I don't think it's a yes or no. We're not making a commitment to fact checking everything or fact checking nothing. It's either direction. We are here there to keep a conversation going, to facilitate good, solid debate.

And it entails a lot of things in terms of asking questions above moving the conversation along, making sure that it's civilized.

Well, a lot of times Chris Wallace thought it wasn't key civilized, and by doing that, he had to. I guess berate Donald Trump. Is that what they're going to do this time? I think it's all going to be a counter to what CNN did. Which I think it should they should kind of Mirror would see and ended.

So Dana Walden, who's Dana Walden? The top executive at ABC. How does it relate to this? She's best friends with Kamala Harris. They have had a 30-year relationship.

President Trump is suing George Stephanopoulos. Their lead anchor in the mornings and lead political anchor twenty four hours a day, suing him for saying that he's a rapist when he wasn't and isn't, and he never apologized.

So she sued him and the judge said, Yeah, there's enough here to go forward.

So Trump is a little Hmm.

Well, he's thinking twice about ABC, but he said I already committed to do it, so I might as well just do it.

Now, I think the muted microphones that Biden wanted and the lack of audience that Biden wanted are actually going to work towards Trump. I thought Lawrence Jones had a great point today. He said a lot of times Trump tries to entertain and get the crowd going and will do it at the behest of his own interest in order to get laughs or response.

So by keeping it sanitary, it might help Trump. What do you think? From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone, from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan.

It's Brian Kilmey, just like the guy just said. We've got a big hour coming your way. A lot of guests and a lot of interviews, and a lot to get through. And I want to get your opinion too, because this is going to be one of those impactful weeks. You can no longer say, well, it's summer.

Well, it's Labor Day.

Well, now it's the week after Labor Day. There's no excuses. This hour is going to be joined by Michael Goodwin. He had a really good column this week again talking about what we can't take from the New York Times, and that is unbiasedness because they remain biased and always have been. And then we're going to speak to Ben Voff, Director of Debate and Speech and Associated Professor at SMU.

I want to get the tactics. Other tactics that you've seen historically, you know, both candidates.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. What if I was a Tyreek Hill, bro? Worst case scenario. It's crazy.

Like, I want to be a cop one day. I got a state trooper had all that, you know, so I got a lot of respect for cops, man. But obviously, everybody has bad apples in every situation. And we don't know exactly the details, but that is Tyreek Hill, one of the best receivers in football. Led the Dolphins to a big comeback win over the Jaguars.

Before that, it's on video. You probably have seen it already. Hill being pulled over, handcuffed on the ground. And one of his offensive linemen also came over to find out what goes on. They locked him up, and then he was able to come back and play.

Plus, Tom Brady makes his debut. What did you think? Did you listen? We'll get your take. Sure.

Number two. The foreign policy is at stake. What happened after Afghanistan impacted the world? Why? Because Putin responded by invading Ukraine and then the Ayatollah reared his ugly head.

In the Middle East And then use his proxies to take out Israel. And we know killed over a thousand. Afghanistan disaster through 12. The report is finally out by the House. Why was it delayed?

Well, it was not in session, number one.

Now that Congress is back, they were held up because everyone's slow walking all the material they needed for this investigation. It's hard to read this and see any politics in it, but Democrats are saying that. I'll read you the facts. Number one. I think the reality is Donald Trump is preparing more than he is letting on.

There is nothing formal. There are no mock debates. None of that is happening. But he is doing these sort of informal policy talk sessions. Rachel Scott of ABC, debate day, a day away, the stakes, the strategy, and the rumored preparation.

We go behind the scenes. Plus, new polls have Trump in front. He's up four points on the debate eve. We go inside the numbers and tell you what's going on as both. teams strategize.

Michael Goodwin, welcome in the New York Post. Michael, you know, it shouldn't surprise you that when you have the Harris staff. forced to live with the Biden staff.

Now, forced to have the Obama staff come in above all of them and take over the strategy sessions. Word is leaking out, they're not happy. One is the whole bubble wrapper: don't let her do interviews, don't let her talk to people. That's a David Pluff idea. And the Harris people said they never would have waited to just do one interview.

What they have. Here it comes, right? Here comes the as soon as you hit some turbulence, that's where you find out how cohesive your team is. Yes, good morning, Brian. It is surprising that the shootout in the lifeboat has started so soon.

I mean, it's still a very competitive race. Kamala Harris could certainly win.

So I'm not sure why everybody is starting to point fingers at this early stage. It's unusual. I think it does. speak to a certain fear about her candidacy and about her as a candidate because as you say, normally these things happen only afterwards, only when people are trying to salvage their own reputations and score points. They don't generally happen when you're in a competitive race before the first debate.

Yeah, well, it's uh to me it was inevitable. Number one, the Harris people know that they've been totally disrespected. Oh, eighty seven percent of the people that started with her have quit or been fired. And now, uh, the Biden people who are dismissive of her say, Yeah, we'd like to take control and then the by Kamala Harris reached to her buddy, uh, I guess Barack Obama for some more advice.

So they said they never would have allowed them to do this. But this New York Times poll, what do you think the significance is? President picks up former President picks up four points, now one point ahead. Biden led by eight, and Hillary led by six at this point. What do you think?

Well, listen, these are national numbers, and well, ultimately, it's the Electoral College. The significance is that for Tr if Trump could even pull that close close to a tie or eke out a small national popular vote victory, that would of course trickle down into the swing states.

So there is some connection to the two. It's not automatic. But don't forget at one point I think Hillary Clinton beat Trump by four point five points in the national popular vote. And much of that is California. But nonetheless, he was still able to win the Electoral College.

So If if he were to win the national popular vote, then the effect on the Electoral College could be even more significant. And you could begin to see the outlines of a very big victory. I don't want to use the L-word landslide because I think that's far too premature. But that's what he was heading for with Joe Biden. There, there had been a swing in some polls of twelve points.

that he had been behind by two or three and then was ahead by nine or ten in some polls.

So that would have been an enormous victory had that held.

Now I think it's more back to a fifty fifty, but it does look like Harris has peaked. that the euphoria of her nomination and the convention is starting to wear off, and you're seeing people come back to what's the future here? Who is the better candidate? And the fact that she is hiding I think it's beginning to take a toll because it's not a secret. It's not just a Republican thing.

She's hiding from everybody. Yeah, which they had this protection plan. Don't break the glass in her. No interviews, no press conferences, no town halls. Let's not even show America what she'll do.

In fact, when Bernie Sanders was asked, What you do, I'm not going to play it. He basically said, Yeah, we still think she's a progressive, but she's saying what is necessary to be elected. 28% of people in that poll said they need to learn more about her. Only 9% say they need to know more about Trump. And get this: Trump occupies the center.

A near majority of voters say Trump is not too far to the left or to the right, while only a third say she's too far to the left.

So, excuse me, she's too far to the right. Nearly half of voters in contrast say Harris is far to the left. Only 41% say she's not too far for either.

So, the person, even though she's claiming to be a moderate. She is the one that the public looks at as a moderate, and they say they don't know her, but she cannot possibly be the change candidate. Yes, she's got a lot of negatives when you look at it that way, Brian. I mean, as the point about being not being the change candidate, I mean, she is the Vice President for the last four years just about.

So all of the reasons Apart from his mental decline that made Joe Biden unpopular, Should automatically fall on her shoulders as well. The economy, the border, the world blowing up, the sense of American decline, those are now on her plate. And I don't see how she deals with those by hiding from the media. I mean, it just seems to me. She's got a lot of people to persuade That she is not Joe Biden, that she will do better than those policies.

And you can't do that remotely. You can't do that by having an aide secretly whisper to the in the ear of someone at CNN and CNN puts it on a crion. And that doesn't work. as a national agenda. And so I'm i it is confusing and perplexing why she is hiding this long.

I mean, it's unless she thinks that the one interview she did the debate, and she'll do a couple more down the stretch. Walls will do a debate maybe, that that will be enough. The surrogates will come out, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Michelle Obama, everybody except Hunter and Joe Biden, I guess. I just don't see how it adds up to stitching together a majority of voters.

Well, we'll go we're about to find out.

So after the debate itself, We know about some of the rules. Muted mics, no live studio audience, only pen and paper, nothing pre-written, two-minute answers to questions, two-minute rebuttals to questions. That one extra minute for follow-ups, David Muir and Lindsey Davis will be tested to see how unfair and unbiased they actually can be. Trump has brought up the fact that he's suing Stephanopoulos for calling him a rapist, and the judge wants that lake to say that can go forward. Also, the president of ABC has been 30-year best friends with Kamala Harris.

So Trump has brought that out, and he's smart to work the refs ahead of time. I love what Fetterman said. He'll said, I just want to say that it's going to be a straight-up debate. She's going to do great, of course, but Donald Trump will be good too. I mean, you all remember he wrecked all of the Republicans.

He's a good debater.

So, for Fetterman to come out and say, I think they're both going to do good is kind of interesting. He tends to tell the truth since his head injury. Yeah.

I know, it's amazing, isn't it? He's a different and better person. It seems it. But look, I think that my view of the debate, Brian, is that Trump has now, I think, turned the corner. After the Harris Euphoria and bye-bye Biden.

And I think he's brought it back to even. I think that he doesn't necessarily have to win the debate. To keep that going, I think he just has to not lose it.

Now I don't expect him to play it safe. But at the same time, I don't think he needs to swing for the fences. Right. It doesn't have to be Franz Klammer in the 70s, right? That's right.

And no, you know, no calling her a lunatic or anything like that. You think that's fad? I didn't know that. Here's what Rachel Scott said. She's, of course, his protagonist in the congressional, excuse me, in the Black Journalist Conference, CUD 18.

One thing to watch for, I think, is going to be key. When it came to Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump at least had some respect for her as a person, as a politician. He genuinely does not think that Kamala Harris is a smart person. He says that publicly, and he means it, and he says it privately as well. How does that come across on the debate stage?

And does he lose his cool in a way that turns off voters?

So what do you think? I think that's a very good point. I think that he cannot be condescending to her. And I think she makes a really good point about the Clinton debates, where despite the bad blood, despite the things he believed about her, it wasn't that way on the stage. And I think he's going to have to be the same way.

And this question that Evoke the answer that Rachel Scott asked, that evoked the answer about Harris not being black. I have to think that's going to come up in the debate. And how he handles that will be a really big issue for him. I think he needs to get beyond it. He needs to not engage.

On that issue, because I just think it's a loser. I think they're going to hit him with, you've been indicted, you're a felon. I'm used to dealing with felons. He's going to say, yes, all of that. All of that.

I mean, the mud's going to come from three different people, right? The moderators and Harris. And he's going to have to stand still, I think, and not. Not get rattled and not lapse into a tit-for-tat thing that he fought too far, too often does fall into. Right.

If he comes out winning this, even barely just winning this, certainly doing good. They're going to be, he's going to pull ahead and it's going to force a total change of tactics. You know what the tactic is going to be? It's the Biden move. What happened with Biden?

He hid for three years. And then when he had that epic fail in the debate, he went out every day and campaigned and did three or four network interviews, big networks, small networks, did everything. He's like, look, look, look, I'm not going anywhere. Only God Almighty could stop me. Evidently, Nancy Pelosi, more powerful than God, stopped him along with George Clunley, no longer endlessly sexy in my view, for another conversation.

So they end up knocking him out. That's what it's going to take for Donald Trump to pull ahead. That will force her to come out. And that, to me, is not bringing Obama and Clinton out. Or George W.

Bush could speak to anyone, could be very conversational and charming. This dude would be trouble. If you're going to make her come from behind, it's over.

Well, look, I I All right. I still think that her staff is making a mistake in hiding her. She does have some likable or shall I say good qualities politically. Um She can't speak in depth on policy issues and quickly lapses into, but she can be. Charming, she can be funny, she, you know, she can laugh, and so that might.

I think that they're underestimating the value of that. Yes, the policy people will hate it, that she can't see. two sentences in a row on a policy. Most viewers who watch television interviews are not policy people. They're judging whether they like this person, whether they can envision this person in the Oval Office.

They're not going into a deep dive into where they stand on everything. And that, frankly, is the value of the medium, right? Of the television way. What's the first debate, Richard Nixon and JFK? And what do we remember about that?

That Richard Nixon needed to shave, right? It looked like he needed a shave. He was sweating. I mean, who can remember a word that either one of them actually said? And you know, the story was, you know, it well, Michael, you lived it.

That the people listening on radio thought Nixon won. The people watched on television thought Kennedy won. Yes. Yes, and that is precisely why I don't understand why she's not out there more. It just doesn't make any sense.

But you always make sense, especially in your column this week. You took on the New York Times in great detail on that family. Don't even pretend they're unbiased. Look elsewhere and judge everything you read with that lens. Michael Goodwin, thanks so much.

My pleasure. Thank you, Brian. All right, we'll go inside the debate tactics and more with Ben Vaught in 15 minutes. But next, your calls from Waterbury, Connecticut to Daytona, Florida, over to Virginia. We'll have them all on the Brian Killmeat Show.

Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Killmead. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Joe. The police, I mean, just inexplicably put him in handcuffs relative to a moving traffic violation, entering the stadium of all things on game day.

A surreal situation. I'm extremely upset about it. Yeah, and that was Drew Rosenhaus, right? Talking about that. Yeah, Drew Rosenhaus, the outstanding agent, weighing in, there to help out.

He's always there. That's why he's great. Let's go back to politics. Cliff, you're listening in Waterbury, Connecticut. Brian, thanks for taking my call.

Listen, before I deal with the Tariq Hill situation, I want to say now. Trump du does a podcast, right? about uh a week ago, Tuesday, and he admits and he says that he lost the election by a whisker. You know, so he says this and he admits this.

So if this is true and he's saying this, You know, what's this whole thing about the still of the election? 44,000 votes. But, Cliff, what do you say about Tyreek? Go ahead.

Well, the same w well you had and and then not not too long before that, you had the golfer, right? Scotty Sheffler. Sheffler Schiffler. You know, and so he gets stopped, right? But I don't understand the difference in treatment and so often you see this As a result from white cop, black individuals.

See, Cliff, I want to go into details, but Cliff, you think Sky Sheffield is treated good? I mean, he certainly wasn't on the ground. Oh, that's true. I didn't see him on the ground. You're right.

But he was pulled over, he was cuffed, and put in prison. and he had to sit there doing push ups until they finally got him out.

So I thought the one thing I could say is, it looks like in the first case, that cop's been dismissed. In this case, it could be heading the same way, but I thought it was equal. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. There are too many examples to cite, but she put over 1,500 people in jail for marijuana violations and then laughed about it when she was asked if she ever smoked marijuana.

I am proud of that work, and I am proud of making a decision to not just give fancy speeches or be in a legislative body and give speeches on the floor, but actually doing the work. All right, that was a little debate, the give and back, the give and take with Tulsi Gabbard at the time. The year was 2019. The goal was to get the nomination. Tulsi Gabbard ends up leaving the party, going independent, now siding with Donald Trump, and the Nikki, excuse me, Nikki Haley.

Nick Haley's on my mind. But Kamala Harris ends up being the running mate of Joe Biden, who she was most effective in cutting down to size until they decided that he had to have the nomination. Ben Voff joins us now, Director of Debate and Speech and Associate Professor at SMU. Ben, welcome. Yeah, great to be with you, Brian.

Thanks for chatting.

So I know like UFC all types of different rules. I thought killing the mics in between in June ended up being a key benefit, I think, of Trump. They want to keep that. It's going to be two minutes to answer a question, two minutes to respond to the question, and then one minute to maybe clean the whole thing up. No studio audience, two breaks, 90 minutes.

What do you think we can expect knowing the two candidates like we do, and now knowing the ABC rules? I think there's a lot of pent up energy for this debate. I think obviously the Harris campaign has tried to avoid a lot of public interaction. I mean, they've had that one interview with CNN. And so they're really going to want to go after each other very energetically.

Obviously, the mic rule was kind of an interesting contestation leading into this, where the Harris campaign wanted to change the rule from june twenty seventh that had them muted mics. And I agree with you, Brian. I think that helped the Trump campaign. But I think the Harris campaign wanted to make a move that they made against Mike Pence. Uh, previously, where she was going to say it's my turn to speak if the other person, like Mike Pence, was speaking in what she perceived to be her turn.

And that's going to be minimized by the mic muting procedures and a pretty clear time limit allocation, like you just laid out there that they have for the debate. I want you to hear what Senator John Cornyn. Had to say about how he thought the thing would play out, cut twenty.

Well, I think he needs to let uh Kamala Harris talk.

something she's been reluctant to do unless she's reading a teleprompter. And I think we've seen the polls very close, but mainly she's coming off of this, as James Carville called it, a sugar high. after the coup d'etat that was committed against Joe Biden. And then of course the convention.

So I'm looking forward to a repetition of the good debate performance that President Trump had with President Biden. And I think he's up to it. What do you think about the whole let Kamala talk? Yeah, I think it is an interesting point. And I don't think Senator Corner is far off the mark.

And I do think. That Harris has a history of talking herself into corners. when she j just sort of let go without the teleprompters and things like that.

Now I do think that she she was very tough against Biden in the Democratic primary debates back in twenty nineteen. She was good against Pence too, I thought. And so, but I think the risks are a little higher for her because of that sugar high that Senator Corn is talking about, where the relief of sort of unburdening themselves from Biden caused kind of a surge for Harris. But now there's this difficult question about does she adhere to her previous positions or does she have a new, more moderate position on issues? Right.

So, this is what some have said: the key for Harris: get under Trump's skin, keep calm during his attacks that are certain to come, point out broken promises, emphasize his advanced age.

So I think there's some risk with a lot of that. For Trump, focus on flip-flops, tie Harrison Biden policies, which I'm not sure she'll run from. Maybe she should, maybe she shouldn't. Give her more room to talk.

So that's pretty much a commonality. First on Harris, what are you about getting under Trump's skin? Yeah, I think she is going to try to do that. I think it's clear from the DNC that she is going to emphasize her prosecutor persona, and she's going to portray Trump in regard to the convictions that he's had in New York and other legal battles. And so she wants to convey to the audience that he is a bully and that she's there to rescue the public from the bully.

And that is something she'll want to do is to get him to overreact and to lose temper during the debate. And I think that's definitely a strategy and then kind of perform her prosecutor style. Before, and by the way, I'm talking to Ben Voth, the director of debate and speech and association press here at SMU, about some of the subtleties of this.

So, Chris Chrissy, I think, is a great debater, and he also worked with Trump a lot when they were speaking.

So interesting. He said this about advice to Harris, Cut 15. How do you think he is actually. getting ready for this debate. He doesn't.

get ready. I mean, as someone who was in charge of debate prep in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty for him, it was a constant struggle. There were times when we would go and debate prep would be scheduled. We'd go in to sit with him and he would just say, No, I'm not doing it. Yeah.

And that would be it, and it just wouldn't happen. And so, my guess is that, especially now, as you said in the lead up. You know, his seventh general election presidential debate, he really doesn't think he needs to prepare. He believes that just whatever his gut instincts are are what's going to carry him.

Right. And then here he went and gave the advice to Harris, cut to 16. If I were preparing Kamal Harris, I'd tell her to write two words. Only on there. Charm.

and disarm. That's it. She needs to look into that camera and charm the American people. She needs to sew that she's not going to be the 24-hour a day leaf blower noise that he is. Right.

So, what do you think? What do you have advice for both people? Yeah, no, that's very interesting. And again, for me, as a debate coach and director, I really don't like when candidates won't practice, because I think that really is the best thing. But I think it is true that Trump generally doesn't like to do it.

I've even talked to President Bush about it here in Dallas, and generally, candidates don't like to do it. It doesn't always mean that they're going to do badly. And certainly, Trump had a lot of examples where he succeeded. Obviously, he dispatched. uh Joe Biden this summer.

And and so he's probably feeling confident at after that. And I do think Harris, yeah, needs to kind of pour on the charm and try to look like a congenial figure and not someone that is maybe overbearing or trying too hard or just adapting their positions only to whatever the public wants to hear. And those are difficult channels to navigate and actually kind of put yourself rhetorically into that spot. Yeah, I guess I guess we'll see what happens.

So, how do you see it playing out?

Well, I think that it's going to be a real test of the base voters. I think that if the two of them can avoid major gaps, You know, both sides are going to claim victory and then it's going to mobilize. I do think the opportunities are somewhat greater for President Trump than for Vice President Harris, mainly because I think there's a narrowing that's happening where, and I think we saw it in the CNN interview with Harris, where she does seem to be shifting her positions on things like the border wall and fracking. And I think that's vulnerable to an exposure in a debate where she Surely and likely Trump would say, Hey, you've changed your position. And that's a risky reality.

Now, I think there's some shift also with Trump, like for example, maybe on abortion. But I think there's a little more vulnerability for Harris because of the recent CNN interview and the potential that people are realizing that she's changing her position. At the same time, she says, My values haven't changed. And so that leaves things kind of confusing as to what would the next Harris administration do. Right.

I mean, it's not even close. I've never seen so many flip-flops done by surrogates without explanation. And we'll probably never see it in our lifetime because normally they'll go through and hash it out in primaries. She'd come out with all these flip-flops, and people like Bernie Sanders, who'd be running for president, maybe in open field with RFK and Joe Biden, if they actually decided to campaign or primary Biden, if she came out and did that, we would have gotten all this out by now. And she would have probably had less areas to attack, for Trump would have had less areas to attack.

But nothing's been tested. She just wants us to believe that everything she ran on is no longer valid and everything, things that she did with Joe Biden are no longer working.

So she's going to do something else.

So my head is spinning about this.

So to me, he's got very similar to decriminalized border crossings, no fracking. When it comes to the border, the wall is a medieval vanity project.

Now it needs to be completed. Really?

Okay. When it comes to offshore drilling, I changed my mind. But why did you do that when it comes to Medicare for all? I'm not for that. Really?

You're not? I thought you were. What happened there?

So. you know, what happened to using uh urging people to bail out people that uh rec with burning things down in George Floyd riots? I thought you were pro tough on crime. What happened? You actually did that as vice president.

So there's a lot of things that I think are vulnerable that wouldn't be if she had just Said them on camera. Taken the follow-up question from the interviewer or from the other candidate, and then we decide from the American public to decide if this is believable. Yes, no, I really think that the D and C has hurt itself by not putting Harris into more adversarial situations leading into this debate. I mean, and the debate is an intense crucible of adversarial rhetorical contact. And I think it's difficult for her to come into it.

And I think the best evidence, as I've said before, is the CNN interview. And even in that case, she brought the vice president Walls with her. And it seems like it's not a good setup coming into this.

Now, I know they're doing debate prep with her, but even that, it seems like a little bit of kind of mockery and that they're trying to kind of tune her up. To mock Trump, which I mean, could work, but I'm not sure they're taking it fully seriously to get her into a situation where she can respond to an adversarial situation like a debate, where hard questions from journalists and also someone that doesn't want you to be president on the other side of the stage. Ben Vode, our guests, he's a debate expert from SMU.

So David Muir and Lindsey Davis will be. Co-moderating. Last time there were 51 million people that watched the debate. I think it's going to be more now. In fact, I know it would be.

So, Rick Klein, the director of politics, says on fact-checking, I don't think it's a yes or a no proposition. We're not making a commitment to fact-check everything or fact-check nothing in either direction. He goes on. We're there to keep a conversation going and facilitate a good, solid debate. And that entails a lot of things in terms of asking questions, moving the conversation along while making sure that it's civilized.

So did you like the way it was moderated by CNN? And by that statement, do you think it's going to be similar with ABC? Yes, I think that's a very important question you're asking there. And I yes, here's my thing. What I really liked about CNN in the last debate is that they actually stayed under ten percent of consumption of the ninety minute time overall.

And it was pretty evident that they were using Some sort of scripts to kind of do that for themselves, which they really need to do. And quite honestly, I have a rather severe opinion that they ought to just say like one word, immigration, abortion, or whatever, wall, and go with that. But I do think CNN tried to constrain themselves in that respect. And I think that's good because we need to hear more from the candidates. The other thing that I think almost nobody knows about that I think is kind of newsworthy here is that in that debate, the problem was that both candidates actually under-answered several times, which means that they didn't use all the speech time that was allocated to them.

And that suggests pretty strongly to me after looking at it and studying it close that they don't understand the time signals coming from the media. And so ABC could actually help itself by being clear that, like, hey, you have a minute. And if you remember the debate from the summer, Biden actually was prompted by the moderators, like, hey, would you like to say something more? Because he was not fully answering. And in fact, he twice as often under-answered questions.

As Trump. And that was part of the overall effect where people thought he really wasn't on the top of his game and then kind of led to his departure from the campaign. And so I really wish ABC would be clear. There ought to be, they use a color code system like street lights to show the candidates whether they should be starting or stopping. But I think there really ought to be a large digital sign that says, hey, 45 seconds, 37 seconds.

You know, they should be able to see clearly what they have. And I think that's going to be a bit of a problem, even when you study these ABC rules, this one-minute extra thing, that's at the discretion of the moderators. And that's, again, a confusing thing that could cause the debate to kind of go off track a little bit. Right. It'd be interesting.

So I really felt that. with the Gavin Newsome Governor DeSantispate. I said they were just throwing numbers at each other. More people left, less people left, the economy's up, the economy's down. I thought to myself, I don't have a living economist to fact check with me at home.

I'm almost wondering if there is a future where a fact checker is their life. And then you wonder who that fact checker is. I know that would be a problem. But a lot of times, people look confident saying something, you believe them, and then later you find out: no, that wasn't true. Yeah, no, and we deal with that in debates all the time.

I'm personally not a fan of the live fact-checking by the media because I think that is subject to a lot of abuse. And the thing I always say, and I mean, you're saying it too, but is that the opposing candidate is there to fact-check. And of course, they're going to say things that are arguably untrue, but it's the mutuality of this that makes it better than just a conventional one-on-one interview with a journalist.

So, and again, I think there's obviously an abundance of fact-checking that happens after the debate. But I do think there, to be candid, I think there is some ideological abuse where the Republican candidate tends to get fact-checked harder and more intensely than the Democratic candidate. And I think that's a reality that's unfortunate and needs to be kept in mind as people kind of pursue the fact-checking mantra. I always think, you know, debates should be accurate, but I would rather they didn't do like a live cry-on at the bottom of the screen saying like, that was a lie. That.

I dislike that kind of approach. Hey, Ben, it's great. It's going to be fun to watch. I know for you. It's like you're a mini Super Bowl, right?

Oh, yeah, it totally is. It's a good day. Ben Vogt of SMU. Thanks so much, Ben. You're welcome, Brian.

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I know that you're not a supporter of Donald Trump's. He loves your music. How did it feel when he took the lyrics to Rocket Man? And he used it as a nickname for Kim Jong-un, and then he gave Kim Jong-un. I laughed, I thought it was brilliant.

I just thought, good on you, Donald. I'm the rocket man, yeah. Donald's always been a fan of mine, and he's been to my concerts many many times so i mean i've always been friendly towards him and i i i thank him for his uh support yeah when he did that i just thought it was hilarious so it was it made me laugh he gave kim jon-ung the signed cd yeah you know which yeah i i know of course he hasn't heard of he kim joon un maybe be very surprised if he had um i've never toured north korea and i have no intention of doing so it was i thought it was a light moment and it was fun All right, that was obviously Elton John talking about Little Rocket Man. That's pretty cool, right? I think it was great.

It was funny. It's refreshing. You know, he doesn't support Trump, but we can still like him as a person, appreciate him liking his music. Brett Favre predicting a bounce back for his former teammate and backup, Aaron Rodgers, when the Jets visit San Francisco tonight. You can say what you want about Aaron, but he's arguably the greatest playmaker in the game right now.

He got hurt last year, and we know what happened to the Jets, but I think with their defense, And with Aaron healthy, there's no reason that they can't compete for the AFC championship because their defense is, I think, outstanding. They just need to score points and have some confidence on the offensive side, and they haven't had that yet. And he's got offensive weapons, too. He's got offensive weapons. And, you know, the thing about Aaron is, even if he didn't, he's going to make something happen.

It certainly helps to have better players, but he'll make things happen. He just got to stay healthy. He's got to stay healthy. Obviously, he went to the Jets and Brett Favre didn't do great. They got to go off to a great start.

Then he got kind of injured and they got knocked out before making the playoffs.

Meanwhile, real quick, NBC tonight's show cutting Jimmy Fallon from five nights to four. Beginning of the end of late night television, I'm telling you. And when these guys' contracts get up, they're not going to get the same money. They're probably going to want to move on. Uh oh, we'll see.

Kinda sad though. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmeyer. Hi, everyone.

Thanks so much for being here. Brian Killmee, coming your way. This hour, going to be joined. You're going to hear my interview with Nikki Haley. I did it one-on-one with her about an hour ago.

I'm going to bring it back to you unedited. Also, got Tulsi Gabbard at the top of the hour and Corey Lewandowski to close out the hour. And right after, Tulsi, I'll be able to take some calls. Just going to be a big day. It's a big week.

Tomorrow is the big debate, and it's a one and done, unless Tulsi, excuse me, unless. Kamala Harris does terrible, and then she's going to really petition hard to get another debate. I think Trump will give in. But if he does, right now he's pulled slightly ahead in one of these New York Times left-leaning polls. And he pulled ahead in interesting ways because if you drill down on why he's ahead just by one point, which is insignificant, except for.

In the same poll, In 2016, he trailed Hillary by seven. In the same poll, he trailed Biden by eight, same period last time.

So that's significant. And then number two is when asked, Who you need to know more about? 28% said they need to know more about Harris. 9% said they need to know more about Trump. Who's closer to the middle?

The American people told New York Times. Trump is Maybe that's one of the reasons why former Democrat turned independent Tulsi Gabbard has joined the Trump team. And I'm sure if Trump wins, we'll be have a significant role in the administration. Tulsi, welcome back. Hey, Bradford.

Talk to you. Same here. What has it been like? I know that they brought you in specifically. They really wanted you to work with President Trump and advise him on the debate.

What's that been like? It's been a fantastic experience. President Trump has been more than ready and is looking forward to debating Kamala Harris tomorrow. Really, any contribution that I've been able to make really has been centered around just sharing my experience that I had with her on the debate stage in twenty nineteen. And some of the tactics that I expect her to use.

in trying to obfuscate her record and run away from it, And try to either point the finger back at Trump or to try to rile him or get under his skin and distract away from the truth and the facts that President Trump will be exposing about Kamala Harris to the American people.

Well, it's very interesting. She finally published. What she would do as president. It's still vague, but she goes more specifics about tax cuts, more specifics about the economic vision. And.

And building up the military.

So I'm really confused about how much detail she wants to get into tomorrow. If she knew it all along and wants President Trump to quiz her on it, doesn't really explain her flip-flops on things, and we all know them. I mean, they probably go 12 deep from decriminalized boarding crosses to fracking to offshore drilling to Medicare for all. to her views on the New Green Deal. Basically, she coauthored all this stuff.

She basically is backing out of if that Kamala Harris got next to you, she stood for all those things when she stood next to you, Tulsi Gabbard. What if she stood next to you and you found out two weeks before that she changed all her positions? How do you handle that? I mean, that's going to be a layup for President Trump, too. Again, Remind the American people of what her record has been and the fact that the American people deserve.

An explanation from her that they have not gotten yet. It's not on that website that they just posted late last night with her so-called platform, which, as you said, It's really more of a statement of views on things as opposed to actual policy propositions. And you know, look, people can evolve according to the environment or changing circumstances or new information. That's fine, but the problem with Kamala Harris is, and this is what Bernie Sanders pointed out yesterday, which is.

Well, Kamala Harris hasn't changed. She is just saying, and I'm paraphrasing, but he said pretty directly: she is saying and doing what she feels she needs to do to win this election. Period.

So Bernie Sanders is being quite honest about Kamala Harris is changing positions. President Trump will have the opportunity to directly confront her on that fact. and see how she explains herself to the American people. She's not done a single solo interview with the media since she became the Democratic nominee, not a single one. And so she has not given the American people any of the information.

Any kind of even marginal explanation about how and why she has shifted her position on so many issues. Do you think that she is abandoning her progressive ideals? No, I don't think she's abandoning her ideals. I think she's trying to be pragmatic and. doing what she thinks is right in order to win the election.

Can you believe he said that? I mean, how much older do we have to wait for him to get experience about how to answer that question? I mean, I appreciate the honesty, but come on. I mean, that's why the squad's not going crazy. You know, he has been in politics for longer than I've been alive, quite frankly.

And whether you agree or disagree with his positions, He says what he believes. And that is what he believes. He is saying the truth. Whether Kamala Harris likes it. Or not.

And again, this opportunity for this debate, I think, is so important. I'm really looking forward to seeing President Trump and Vice President Harris standing side by side and reminding the American people: you know, she's talking about a way forward and she's talking about turning the page and all of these phrases to try to get the American people to look to the future and forget about the reality that we have been living through over these last three and a half years. She is the incumbent in this race. She has been going to work in the White House every day for these last three and a half years. She has touted the Harris Biden record throughout those three and a half years, and she has cast the most tie-breaking votes of any vice president in history.

Showing her direct buy-in culpability and responsibility for all these decisions and policies that have been made on both domestic policy and foreign policy. And really, what it comes down to is the fact that under this administration, we have an increasingly tyrannical government undermining more of our fundamental rights. and freedoms. We are in many more wars around the world than we were certainly before they took office. And when it comes to the cost of living, the ability for everyday Americans to afford the basic necessities of life, people are far worse off under the Biden-Harris administration than they were under President Trump.

Those are the facts. I get it. I thought, so I didn't know you weren't mature her prosecutorial background. And you went to what she did in California. I had Judge Joe Brown on Saturday night on One Nation.

You've been kind enough to come on. She's known him, he's known her for years. And listen to what he said, cut 13. She's a fraud. She is an image that's been carefully crafted.

You can start with what she is. She has a certain paint job, but that doesn't make her what she claims. And we have somebody that has a fabricated reality.

Well, she talks about she was that child on the bus integrating. The schools. And if this was in California, I don't get it because at that point I was a school teacher in LA, California, and we didn't have segregated schools. Both of my parents were school teachers. What they did is they shuffled the teachers around, but you went to school in your neighborhood.

Sh and she he went on. I mean, have you heard this? When you started looking to debate her and she was thought to be a frontrunner, did you find a lot of problems with her story? There are a lot of issues. I had not heard that one with regard to questioning.

The reliability of her whole busing story. But when you peel back the layers of Kamala Harris's record, quite frankly, as President Trump has been, both in each of the positions that she has held as a San Francisco district attorney and the Attorney General, there are a lot of problems there, a lot of problems there that many Americans find very disturbing. This is why, when President Trump references How Kamal Harris wants to turn the United States of America into San Francisco. That's what he's pointing to, to a very Concerning record that she has in San Francisco and California, to say the least. But she's also got just as problematic a record in the U.S.

Senate, as the most progressive U.S. Senator, going far, far left of Bernie Sanders, even. And then she's got a record for three and a half years as vice president. You know, this to me, when you look beyond Democrats versus Republicans and the disagreements that. maybe fundamentally people of both parties have, which you and I could have a long conversation about how the Democrat Party has completely changed.

Certainly, over the last 10 years, definitely since the 20 years ago that I joined the Democrat Party. But what is at stake in this election goes above Democrats versus Republicans. It is a choice. for all of us about freedom. and peace and prosperity and for us to be able to live in a society where we can live out that promise of America.

But here's the thing. The Democrats aren't running on those things that change. They're not saying we're for sanctuary cities, decriminalizing, getting emptying our prisons. They'ren't running on greening our economy. They're not running on anything that they've been ru like running for.

They're running on something that is a moderate agenda. You know, the facsimile, the fake way Joe Biden ran. I'm a moderate, you know me, I'm a moderate, and then he went way to the left.

So, if they're so proud of their agenda, Republicans like it or not, you know exactly what Donald Trump stands. You know, when it comes to abortion, people say he changed his stance. He keeps it to the states. He never was for six weeks. He told Ron DeSantis that right away, and that was one thing that separated them with the debates.

I'm not saying he never changed his mind, but they're one or two. Everything that Democrats stand for, they're afraid to say. Don't you find that odd? I find it very offensive for a few reasons. Number one is they're afraid to say how radical their positions really are because their pollsters are telling them, hey, the American people are not with you.

They would not approve of your radical agenda, which is why they're changing their tune on almost every single issue. It's offensive to me because they really, really believe that the American people are so stupid to fall for this brand new facade of who they are and what they stand for, as though we just will completely forget the reality that we've been living through throughout the Harris-Biden administration, how divisive they have been, how destructive they have been in virtually every part of our country. And then to add insult to injury, the fact, again, that Kamala Harris refuses to do an interview. Refuses to speak to the American people, refuses to get not even tough questions, basic questions. From even the mainstream propaganda media asking, okay, hey, you supported fracking before, you don't support it now.

Why? So, these are the types of questions that I look forward to hearing President Trump pose to Vice President Harris. Very simple questions that the American people deserve to hear her answer on. With the two minutes and no interruptions, it's different. If you're a prosecutor, you want quick questions.

You want to be able to pin people down. And that's just not the format for prosecutors. You're not trying to see if John Kelly would be a great Homeland Security Secretary, if Justice Kavanaugh would be a great Supreme Court justice. You have two minutes.

So it's hard to get that prosecutor cadence down, don't you think? It is. It is. But we shouldn't underestimate her because she knows what the format is. She's been locked down for about a week now doing her debate prep.

I have no doubt. She is pouring over and memorizing very tight statements around every one of those issues that they posted on her website to fit within that timeframe. What I think will be a little bit challenging based on her track record is. when she has to answer to President Trump's pointing out the truth about her record and the questions that he will pose to her on behalf of the American people. It's gonna be interesting.

And are you gonna be there? Yes, I'll be there.

Okay, you can't clap. You know that, right? They'll throw you right out. I heard the rules.

Okay, good. I'll do what do the kids do these days? They snap their fingers. Yeah, that's what I need. And then I got to have you back to talk about this Afghanistan report in detail.

I just didn't want to muddy the waters here. Of course. But yeah, 350 pages. I can't wait to get your take on it. Thanks so much, Congresswoman Telsi Gabbard.

Appreciate it.

Now with the Trump team. I see you up there, Darren and Marty. I'll get to both your calls, as well as hopefully Orlando, the villages, as well as St. Louis. Don't move.

Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Killmead. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. If I were preparing Kamal Harris, I'd torture two words only on there: charm.

and disarm. Hmm. That's it. She needs to look into that camera and charm the American people. She needs to show that she's not going to be the 24-hour a day leaf blower noise that he is.

She's got to go and show them there's another way to lead. There is a way that you can be kind, that you can be smart. and tough at the same time. That's the charm. Disarm, John.

is do not engage him in that stuff.

Well, good luck. I mean, for the most part, I don't think he does. When asked about Donald Trump and a racial comment he made about which he just became black, he's like, I don't want to go there. Same old deal. I think that'll be the same thing, which will help Trump.

But when they come back as a convicted felon and you didn't do what you wanted and you blew up that border deal, I don't see it getting under his skin. I think that's called Tuesday. Because he gets that all the time. He hears it on television. My hope is that when he comes and talks about illegal immigration, he doesn't just say you let millions of criminals in here, because they have.

And we see the gangs. They've taken over the we've seen the footage. We've seen the gangs. I want to hear about the murders. As bad as it sounds, I want to hear the names.

I don't want to hear people died at Georgia. I want to hear no. Rachel Moran. I want to hear what those names mean. They all were killed by illegal immigrants.

And when she comes back and says, per capita, illegal immigrants cut less crime, you tell that to the people that lost their loved ones for no reason. You tell us to the upsides for the 12-year-old who was just raped by a Haitian who was a criminal when he got here and shows his gratefulness for being here, not thoroughly screened under his program by raping, killing, and robbing.

So I would hear the names. And I know Trump isn't big into memorizing stuff, but when he first walked out, maybe right on the pad. Six or seven names. And maybe he knows some of the Thirteen at Abbey Gate. How come he never met with the families?

How come he didn't go to Dover? How come he didn't walk three blocks and go over to Arlington? And welcome the debate about Arlington. Because he'll know the names of the families. Do you, Como Harris, know the names of the families?

You don't know what they look like, because you've never met them. Darren, listen in Daytona, Florida. Hey Darren. Hey buddy, how are you, Brian? What's in your mind?

Darren here with the.

Sorry for this sneaky plug, but your brothers.com. But I. Marty, listen to WTBO. Hey, Marty. Hey Brian, hey, I'm old enough to remember that when Bill Clinton was in a debate and when he was attacked.

He said something like, An attack on me doesn't feed a hungry child, and it kind of deflated the attack side and it brought it back to the issues. Should Trump pick a page from that and when they attack him, because we know it's common, say an attack on me doesn't help people struggling to put food on the table, which is up 20% over the last three and a half years under Biden Harris, and start pointing out the difference between the four years that worked that he did and the three and a half years that aren't working under what they're doing. Yeah, I mean, they know this. Hey, thank you very much for bringing up that I'm a convicted film because every time you do that, I think I get another $50,000, maybe $100,000.

So you keep it up. And let's examine that case again and we'll find out what the spokesperson for the DA's office said and that the whole case was illegitimate. That's in the New York Post today. It's in on audio. You should listen to it.

Chris, listen on WDBO2 over in Orlando. Hey, Chris. Hey, Brian. When President Trump and the Republicans talk about the economy, I hope they speak a little bit more to the truth to the fact that millions of illegals are living their best life. Affluent are doing pretty well, but it's our cost of living and our quality of life that the moderate middle class has been destroyed on.

And if Kamala allows his tax cuts for the middle class to expire, it won't only be 19%. It'll be another 18% to hit us. Evidently, middle-class tax cuts on the whole about 16% of your income averaged $3,700 more on the tax reform that took place. How about this? $7 billion in weapons left to the Taliban.

$57 million was just left in the bank for the Afghan government. The Taliban just got, let alone tens of thousands in preams of pure equipment sales. They're selling our stuff to other terrorists. That's on their watch. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Welcome back, everybody. In 15 minutes, I'm going to talk to Corey Lewandowski, the newest member of the Trump team. He feels very good about this upcoming debate. But I have a chance to do a one-on-one with Nikki Haley this morning right on Fox and Friends.

He doesn't do much anymore. She's been went over to Taiwan. I'm going to talk to that at a different time. But I wanted to talk to her about Liz Cheney coming after her for endorsing Trump. I wanted to talk to her about what she wanted to do, also about this Afghanistan report, as well as what's happening in what is happening over in Israel and the Lackasura report from Kamala Harris.

This is why she is for Trump because he likes his foreign policy better. And even though he can be volatile and all those things, she thinks his record was really strong. And can he do it again? Much better than Harris. That's the choice.

And one thing she said to. Margaret Brennan. Is yeah, if I thought that Biden and Trump were perfect candidates, I wouldn't have run. But I went out there just like Cruz, just like Rubio, just like DeSantis, and they thought they could get the nomination. And when they couldn't, to her credit, she was the last one standing.

She's gone back and says, How can I help? Here's my interview. Former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Nikki Haley, fresh off a trip to Taiwan. We'll talk about that.

Great to see you, Ambassador. Great to be with you. Your thoughts about Prime Minister Netanyahu, there are thousands in the street wanting those hostages back under enormous pressure, even from the U.S. What should his stance be? He remembers what Hamas said, which is when given the opportunity, they're going to do it again.

He wants to eliminate Hamas. It's the right thing. We need to bring the hostages home. But look at what's happening, whether it's Jordan, whether it's Lebanon, whether we're seeing what's happening in Gaza or what they're doing with these hostages. Let's remember who's right and who's wrong.

Israel didn't start this. Hamas started this. Israel needs to end it. They need to finish the job. Do you believe that we're holding back weapons has hurt their ability to prosecute this war?

Absolutely. When I was there a couple of months ago, that's the biggest issue. They just need us to support. They're not asking for a military. They're just saying, give us the weapons we need so that we can eliminate Hamas.

And remember, they're fighting our enemies.

So we need to help them do that. And it would be great to hear that rhetoric. Also, Iran's a problem. You mentioned that we've had two assassination attempts who were thwarted here, one of which is on you. They're targeting you two.

They're targeting Mike Pompeo. They're targeting Donald Trump. Where is the pushback? And they also had a cyber attack on the Trump campaign. The FBI sat me down during my campaign and said they knew there was election meddling that was coming from Iran.

I mean, you look at all the foreign actors that are invading us through multiple ways, whether it's Iran, whether it's Russia, whether it's China, whether it's North Korea now to a certain extent. And we are sitting ducks just letting it happen. We've got to do something about that. The one thing is Biden never should have lifted the sanctions on Iran. Why it is taking him so long to put them back is unforgivable.

It's almost as if he doesn't care. He stays all the time on the beach. He does spend a lot of time on the beach. But I also want to talk about this election. You made it clear before you left, as hard as you campaigned and as direct as you were against former President Trump, you called him up and said, I'll help any way I can.

And you will endorse him. You'll vote for him. you win for that call. Liz Cheney is the other way, a conservative Republican who says, I'm not only not going to support him, I'm going to vote for Harris. And she was upset with your stance.

Let's listen. Even when she stopped running, almost a third of Republican voters were looking for an alternative to Trump and voting for Nikki Haley. She's now saying that she is, quote, on standby to campaign for Donald Trump. She's also, of course, called him unhinged, unqualified. I can't understand.

Her position on this in any kind of a principled way. I think that the things that she said, that she made clear when she was running in the primary, those things are true. Casting a vote for Donald Trump or writing someone in means that you've made the decision in too many instances that so many elected Republicans have made, which is to abandon the Constitution. Your reaction to her reaction. I respect her decision, but she can't say my decision is not principled.

It actually is. We can either vote based on style or we can vote on substance. I'm voting based on substance. I'm looking at the fact we can't live the next four years like we did the last four years. This is no contest.

Harris raised taxes, Trump reduced taxes. Harris wants to stop any energy production. Trump built it up. Harris is weak on national security. Trump was strong on national security.

Harris has allowed the border to be infiltrated by 8 million people. Trump was much harder on the border. This is about my family. This is about America. These are about issues.

We should be very clear. If you don't like him, say you don't like him. But you can't say that his policies are worse than Kamley Harris's. That's just not a fact.

So you obviously don't take that personal, and it's about the country. Will you go to the point where you appear on stage with him at rallies? Because there's a huge, I think there's a sizable portion of the Especially in the primary, you proved it. That support you only. I've made it clear to him a couple of things.

One, that he needs to go out and ask for the vote of conservative and moderate Republicans. Suburban women, independents, conservative Democrats. This is going to be a tight election. He needs to go say, I need your vote. And the second thing is, I'm on standby.

I'm happy to be helpful. I don't want to see Kamala Harris win. He's the candidate. He can decide whether he needs my support. But you would do it.

Absolutely. You would go on stage. Why do you think Kamala Harris is a 14-point lead in the gender gap among women? I think it's because Donald Trump and J.D. Vance need to change the way they speak about women.

You don't need to call Kamala dumb. She didn't get this far, you know. Just by accident. She's here. That's what it is.

She's a prosecutor. You don't need to go and talk about intelligence or looks or anything else. Just focus on the policies. When you call even a Democrat woman dumb, Republican women get their backs up too. The bottom line is: we win on policies.

Stick to the policies, leave all the other stuff. That's how he can win. Prediction.

Now, what'd you hope? Prediction tomorrow night. What do you think? How do you think it's going to go? She's a prosecutor.

I think she'll do well. He's a good debater.

I think he'll do well. The goal is, neither one of them can afford a mistake. That's true. They'll have to think about it for 90 minutes with just two breaks. Yes.

Vebasa, great to see you in person. Thank you. Both. Absolutely. All right, so that was Nikki Haley in for a five-minute interview on Fox and Friends.

We tried to get her up, but she has another appointment right at 9 o'clock. She says we'll do within the next two weeks. My sense, I reached out to the Trump camp to find out how they view Nikki Haley. I'm going to ask Corey Lewandowski that again. They watched her interview yesterday on Face the Nation, and they were unbelievably aggressive, just as if it's the same thing that Jonathan Carl does.

Even though they're maybe. Tim Russer used to lean left. They used to say, I could never tell. He'd be just as hard as Dick Cheney as he would be on Joe Biden. You'd never know.

Because all he said is, I have a goal here. I got to get to the bottom of it, push these guys and these women until they answer honestly. And the thing is, when Margaret Brandon sits down with Nikki Haley, I think it's a totally. A different take. I mean, listen to the way she was pressed.

Uh listen to way she was pressed. Uh to uh for example when it came to Taiwan. And I thought that it was.

Well, here's the one which you talked about what foreign actors were doing. Against her, cut twenty three. This has been going for a long time. And Americans need to wake up. Don't just look at Russia, don't just look at China, don't just look at Iran.

The biggest lesson we need to take is when you look at social media. I bet you a larger percentage of those are foreign engagements. Our social media companies owe Americans from a national security perspective how many of these foreign bots are dividing us. Every bit of our government, influencers, press and media, need to say how many of these foreign influencers are buying people. And what are we doing to protect us?

Nothing.

No one's talking about TikTok. Biden and Trump both said they were against TikTok. They're both on it now. Comla's on it now. China loves that.

America needs to wake up when it comes to foreign actors.

So that is so true. And she was talking about the Russians passively using influencers to influence the dialogue online. When the other bigger picture is the cyber attack won against the Trump organization, she had her organization cyber attacked. And why are you not bringing up what Iran has been doing as well as what China's been doing? It is so much more than just Russia.

But what is good about Russia? The perception is that Vladimir Putin wants Trump to win, and here they go again. They're afraid to bring it up directly, although Christopher Steele has a book coming out soon, I think next week, and he's going to come out and talk about how he really feels as if we don't know about the dossier and everything from there.

Now, when it comes to Taiwan, where she just came from, and then I'll take a break so we have time for Corey, I want you to hear this. Taiwan, she never visited before. She's going to these hotspots. She has not given up being a world leader, and she shouldn't. But she went to Taiwan.

And they are on a war footing. Keep in mind, the one thing that she didn't bring up: Taiwan doesn't want handouts. They will write checks and pay for our stuff. Just give them our stuff after they pay for it. Cut 39.

First of all, when I went to Taiwan, I think it's important that Americans know what I saw. I met with the President, the Vice President, the Defense Minister. We were on a military base. We met with their intelligence officers. The life of a Taiwanese every single day.

First of all, they have 30 million cyber attacks a month. In Taiwan. They have aggression from air and sea by the Chinese every single week. I wanted to see if. Taiwan If they were victims waiting for a handout or what they were saying.

And I was so impressed because they're not waiting for help from anyone. Ten years ago, their Chinese investment was 84%. Today, their Chinese investment is 11 percent. They are proactively not investing in China. Their mandatory military service, starting at 18 years old, they had started at four months.

They've now increased it. You have to serve militarily. At 18 for a year. While cutting that investment, they are getting ready militarily. They're doing joint training with America, which is fantastic.

That's why Trump has had to have a strong we support. Strategic ambiguity, even though Biden blew that up and his staff walked it back twice and said if they're attacked, we're not going to commit to attacking or not attacking and defending. But if you give them the missile defense, if you get them trained, you see the problems Russia is having in Ukraine. China hasn't fought a war since Vietnam, when they came in against us initially, excuse me, 1979 when they went into Vietnam after we had left, and it didn't go well.

So, they have a lot of equipment. They have a lot of soldiers, but they have no experience.

So, you harden that target, you make it a porcupine. That's what we need. I hope Trump understands that, and I hope they listen, Nikki Haley. One thing about the Trump team: they do listen.

So, when we come back, we talk to Corey Lemandowski. He is leading this Trump charge, this 60-day sprint to winning back to presidency the first time since Grover Cleveland. We'll see how they're doing on the eve of the debate. Don't move, Brian Kilmee Chow. Politics, current events, and news that affects you.

Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade. She can make the case.

She can make the case about her. She can make the case about the danger of Donald Trump. And she's a very strong, powerful woman who has a knack for getting under Donald Trump's skin, and I expect that to happen. That is Congressman Dan Goldman. That's what he hopes happens, of course.

But the big problem with the surrogates now, the big theme is this: Donald Trump's a great debater, maybe the best ever. He's so experienced. We just hope to survive. He's superhuman. That was one of the quotes from Pete Buddhajudge.

Now he's superhuman. Corey Lewandowski, Trump Vance campaign advisor higher up. Corey, welcome back. Hey, Brian, thanks. You know, I've been listening to this clown Goldman or Goldstein, whatever his name is, a fake congressman who's the rich guy who owns like the Levi's fortune for a long time.

Donald Trump has never spoken to Kamala Harris. She's never been part of the negotiations. She was so ineffective as a U. S. Senator.

She was never part of any of the discussions when he was the president.

So these guys just make stuff up, but that's nothing new. Here's what Rachel Scott, the ABC senior congressional correspondent, with her sources inside your camp, said about the former president's preparation, Cut 17. I think the reality is, Donald Trump is preparing more than he is letting on. There is nothing formal. There are no mock debates.

Chrissy was absolutely right about that. There is no lighting. There's no one standing across from him in a suit that they think Kamala Harris is going to wear on the debate stage that night. None of that is happening. But he is doing these sort of informal policy talk sessions.

Is she right? Brian, what Donald Trump has said and what I will admit to is he's been preparing for debates his entire life, okay? His whole life has been a debates preparation. He has sat here and by our count, has taken forty five interviews and press questions 45 different times from the press or from people in the time that Kamala Harris has been named the de facto nominee of the Democratic Party, whether it's town halls with dozens of questions or sit-down interviews or long-form podcasts. All of those things are preparing him for a debate.

So if we think Donald Trump isn't going to be ready, that's foolishness. But the truth is, Brian, all the pressure is on Kamala Harris. She continues to hide in the basement. She continues to do exactly what Joe Biden did, five days sequestered in a room, not answering questions. And look, I will give her credit.

I don't think she'll be drooling on herself like Joe was during the debate. I think that's the bar that she has to clear. But other than that, all the pressure's on her. Is she better at than Hillary Clinton? Is she more of a challenge than Hillary Clinton?

Well, what did we hear? Hillary Clinton was the person who was the most qualified in the history of our nation to be the President of the United States, former Secretary of State, former U.S. Senator. Hillary Clinton had actually run an election and became the Democratic nominee. You know, Kamala Harris never ran in an election of any success for president.

So, you know, let's see. And we know this, Brian. This notion that her answer is, oh, my values haven't changed, but my positions have, means she's a chameleon. It means whoever she is talking to, she will say anything she can to try and secure their votes, to try and get elected, because that's all this is about. This isn't about policy.

It's about her just trying to get through to voters to say, I am not Donald Trump.

So you've been with the president for a while. You've known him before he was president, during your presidency, leading up to the first one, especially.

So right now, that New York Times poll comes in where against Joe Biden, you were losing by six. I think Hillary by seven or somewhere around there. It looks like you're up by one. What happened? What happened from trailing?

You picked up four points in this New York Times Sienna poll.

Well, Brian, it's very simple. People are starting to realize that, you know, Comrade Kamala is not fit to be the president of the United States. She does not deserve a promotion. Donald Trump has articulated what his policies are very clearly.

Well, it's whether it's on the issue of immigration, he wants to build a wall. Whether it's on the issue of no tax on tips, that's his idea. Whether it's on the issue of fracking, Donald Trump has been very forward-facing that Pennsylvania will continue to frack under a Trump administration. Kamala Harris continues to change her positions, and the people are seeing that. She has no agenda.

Her only agenda is to change her positions. She has no policies on her website. Donald Trump last week gave a detailed policy speech in New York on his economic policies for this country going forward, and the media isn't holding her accountable.

So we are very good on where we are from a policy perspective. We feel that the sugar high of Kamala Harris is now over, and the American people, with the official end of summer at Labor Day, are starting. to focus on this campaign and saying she's way too radical for us.

So the Afghanistan report emerges at 350 pages. The summary review is very damning. Here's Michael McCall, cunt 27. Finally, and this is really important, the Bagram prisons unleashed thousands of ISIS-K prisoners that went to the Khorazhan region. Eight of those, and that's few we know about.

Have been detained by the FBI in the United States that got in through the Southwest border. This is a failed foreign policy colliding with a failed border policy all at the same time. This just this just dropped last night. your thoughts about what role it'll play tomorrow.

Well, it's what we already know, Brian. We know we're the only industrialized country in the world that doesn't have a secure border. We know that Kamala Harris has said that a wall is a vanity project. We know that a minimum of The Biden-Harris numbers themselves are 10 million. Many believe probably 20 million have poured across the border illegally.

And we know that over 100 of these people have been on the terrorist watch list. They're not coming here because they love our beaches, okay? They're coming here to do us harm. They are coming here to invade us from within. And anybody who has seen the footage of what transpired in Colorado with these gangs that are coming across and their assault weapons taking over apartment complexes should scare everybody.

None of that would have ever happened if Donald Trump was the president. Corey Lewadowski, thanks so much. Best of luck tomorrow night. And best of luck to the former president, Kamala Harris, versus president on ABC. We'll carry it here.

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