It's the pursuit of doing things better than we have done. And seeing what is possible unburdened by what has been. We see what can be unburdened by what has been. What can be unburdened by what has been.
Knowing and believing and having faith in what can be unburdened by what has been. That is a line she clearly loves. One thing about the Trump rallies, you don't really get two lines of the same.
You get some stories that are similar, but he goes off prompt her a lot. Now, by the way, the Vice President of the United States, who wants to be president, is now in Houston accepting the endorsement of the teachers union. So congratulations. That is no surprise, but she's trying to consolidate as much power as possible. She's given some solid speeches. A person that knows her and studied her, wrote a book about her called Damage Hour, Kamala Harris in the White House, Charlie Spiering joins us now. Hey, Charlie.
Brian, good to be here. First off, how would you characterize her first three appearances since consolidating delegates in order to virtually get the nomination? Well, it's very typical from her already campaign performance. As she ramped up for the re-election campaign, the Biden team was sending her out to some of these swing states, making the argument that Biden deserved re-election.
But it was less to do about Joe Biden, more to do about the case against Donald Trump. So she has been in recent weeks, very recent months, even very scripted, very on message, very on point. Kamala Harris is very dutiful at this point. She didn't want to make any more mistakes, perhaps sensing that she had a political opportunity here. If she can go up and back Joe Biden, she might be rewarded.
And wow, it turns out that it did. Before we talk about the news and what she's saying right now and what she could be saying later, I want to back up a little bit. When did you realize this would be a target rich environment for your book? Yeah, it was back before the campaign really got into motion. We assumed that Biden was running for re-election.
All indications was that he was running for re-election. And that's why we sat down and started thinking about this book. And not every vice president deserves a book written about them, right?
We didn't write books about Al Gore or some of the others who were just there because Clinton was doing fine. But when I first sat down to write this book, I realized there's a very real chance she could be the 47th president of the United States. And it was time to examine her record.
And what did you find out? I mean, I see one of the descriptions you describe her as a hilarious, incompetent, trailblazing radical. Yeah, that's very true. And anybody who watched her 2020 campaign realized exactly just how much of a failure that she was on the campaign trail. She wasn't ready.
And I think that a lot of elites, journalists, donors put a lot of stock into the idea that Kamala Harris could be the ultimate Trump slayer. But wow, when she got out on the campaign trail and tried to connect with voters, she really came up short. It seems as though she didn't understand policy.
When healthcare was on the border, what she wants to do with oil and gas and what would be involved in a new green deal. It just seems like she was winging it. It's not as if, here's my position, it doesn't make sense, but here's my logic. It seems like she was throwing stuff out.
Exactly. When she got into the Senate, her first goal was to go as far left as she could. This is why she had a record that was far to the left of Bernie Sanders. She calculated that if she became the new darling of the left, if she was the new Bernie Sanders without all the cantankerous oldness from Vermont, that she would be embraced with open arms. But voters were quick to see that she wasn't necessarily serious on all the issues and was willing to say anything just to gain power. All right. So, I mean, we have some propositions and I just think it's important for people to know we're not just winging it or trying to disparage her. We're just trying to let people know what she was saying. Here's an example of where she stands.
Cut 16. I am prepared to get rid of the filibuster to pass a green new deal. There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking. So would you ban offshore drilling?
Yes. And I've, again, worked on that. We need to have Medicare for all. Who of us has not had that situation where you've got to wait for approval and the doctor says, well, I don't know if your insurance company is going to cover this. Let's eliminate all of that. Let's move on. It's simply wrong that we have a situation where the pharmaceutical companies have been dictating prices. Affordable health care should not be a privilege. It should be a right.
All right. And that she went on to say for illegal immigrants, too, who are not going to be criminally charged. She goes on to define going forward to funding reimagining ICE, as well as saying more cops don't mean more safety. So also going out of her way to say those race riots aren't going to stop and happy about it and encouraging people to give money for bail for those riders after the after the riots in 2020. So all this stuff is on the record.
How does she handle it? Because this is not popular with American people. Right. That's why she's not she's not really addressing it full. You know, she's not coming out and addressing it entirely.
What she's trying to do is sidestep. And we saw a little bit of that yesterday, you know, making the claim that she was never the immigration czar the borders are and she was only tasked with root causes. Well, it was very clear at the time that Biden was throwing her to the wolves to handle a very thorny political issue that he didn't want to deal with. So that's why she got branded as the borders are.
That's why the media ran with it. And everyone looked to Kamala Harris to solve this issue. And she came up woefully short. She originally was asked to take care of immigration at the border. She could in your book, you write, she corrected Jim Joe Biden because she didn't want the assignment says, no, it's going to be the triangle countries. So the vice president, Joe Biden took it from Barack Obama. You know, we remember that she did not want to take this and she didn't do any work on it.
Right. They sent her to the border with a strong message. Go down there and tell them that migrants will not be allowed. She gave a press conference. She said, I believe, you know, to migrants do not come. I believe that if you come, you will be turned away. Wow.
That was absolutely the wrong message they received that what they received was the borders open. Get up here while you still can, because Kamala Harris is not taking this seriously. Did she grow in the job?
And what do you how do you what did your research show you about their relationship with Joe Biden? Look, Kamala Harris is someone that just wants power. She is very good at running an election. She's very good at positioning herself for positions of power.
But when it comes to doing the job, she comes up short. She's risk averse. She's trying to protect her political brand. Any time the Biden administration asked her to take some of these difficult issues off his plate, she dodged them. She sidestepped them. She never she didn't want to risk her political brand.
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I think it's gonna have a tough time shaking this. This is with Norah O'Donnell of CBS Cut 19. You're considered the most liberal United States senator. Somebody said that and it actually was Mike Pence on the debate stage. Well, actually, the nonpartisan GovTrack has rated you as the most liberal senator. You supported the Green New Deal. You supported Medicare for all. You've supported legalizing marijuana. Joe Biden doesn't support those things. So are you going to bring the policies, those progressive policies that you supported as senator into a Biden administration? What I will do, and I promise you this, and this is what Joe wants me to do. This was part of our deal.
I will always share with him my lived experience as it relates to any issue that we confront. OK, we don't really know what that means. I'm not sure that Joe Biden changed any policies, but she didn't say that's not where I stand or maybe I overstated or misstated it. Maybe I've worked with the president.
I've kind of amended my views. As far as I know, that's what she believes. That interview is such a good one. It was right after Joe Biden selected her as vice president, and that's where she also laughs off any tough questions. Norah O'Donnell really grills her on a number of issues, and this is a famous common law tactic.
When you're approached with uncomfortable questions, you just laugh and refer back to who you are as a person. She also talks about in that interview how, I also love hip hop, so what are you saying? So she was not serious about handling these issues. She didn't do a good job explaining away some of her views or at least saying those were my views then, but I'm 100% aligned to Joe Biden. She couldn't even get that line out.
Charlie Spearings here. Charlie, her relationship with Obama is strong, and many people believe, maybe you do too, that if she does get in, that it's going to be Obama's third term, correct? That's a very good point, Brian, and certainly that's why so many people are wondering, why isn't Obama endorsing Kamala right now? Why is he the only one who hasn't stepped up and endorsed? And I think that he wants to sort of create that public distance in the same way that he never wanted to be seen as publicly pushing Biden aside. He doesn't want to be seen as publicly helping Kamala Harris into the position. Yes, he's like the Derek Jeter of politics. He's a powerful guy, but doesn't want anyone to think or anyone's feathers to be ruffled to think that he is one of those guys that are going to be like AOC, taking a radical position on everything. But you know that if he wanted Joe Biden to stay, he would still be in that job, and there would have been no speech last night. I find it amazing, Charlie, maybe you do too, that people want to just credit Joe Biden for stepping aside at the right time.
This guy had to be stabbed in the back and bled out and gotten COVID in order to come to the conclusion he had no other choice. There's no way he did this for the good of the country. Right, and look at Kamala Harris. She was nowhere to be seen last night during the speech. She wasn't even on the sidelines. They didn't post a picture of her watching.
There was just sort of a bland tweet that was posted about 11 p.m. last night. But until then, we haven't really heard much reaction from her. She's already trying to separate herself from Biden, throwing him under the bus as she tries to move forward with her own campaign. So, Charlie, the other thing to just read some of the stories is the Washington Post story, when they talked about why is she losing so many staff members, over 80% have left since the day that she took the office.
Why? Well, one of the things is she's brutal to them. Number two, extremely demanding, condescending. And the other thing that came up is she refused to read her briefing papers, and when things went bad, she would blame people on her staff.
I mean, how consistent was that? Right, the trip to Guatemala is when things really blew up. And it started with that Lester Holt interview, that famous clip of her saying, you know, Lester Holt asking her, why haven't you been to the border? And she laughs and says, I haven't been to Europe. Her staffers had prepared her with an answer to that question. It was a question Republicans were asking the Biden administration. When are you going to the border?
When are you going to the border? But she didn't take it seriously. She laughed. She forgot her answer, laughed off the question and really came off looking really bad. And so that was just one sign of why staffers started leaving in droves. They didn't see her as having a political future. And it certainly wasn't, you know, sometimes staffers will put up with abuse as long as they know that they're changing the world and dealing with a historic leader. That wasn't the case with Kamala Harris, which is why so many people started leaving. It isn't the case.
But, you know, very interesting. Now, media is cooperating with the remake of her persona. Axios on Wednesday put out this.
Now, on October 14, 2021, Axios wrote this. Harris, appointed by Biden as border czar, said she would be looking at the root causes. Now, when she keeps saying I was never border czar, that's something right wing pundits have put on her. That's not true. So Axios acted yesterday and said in the past few days, the Trump campaign and Republicans have tagged Harris repeatedly with the border czar title, which she never actually had.
Oh, really? So then they realized they wrote it and said the article has been updated and clarified to note that Axios was among the news outlets that incorrectly labeled Harris as border czar. So if you can't do the job, if you couldn't do the job, let's just change the job. It's kind of if you've followed the White House for a long time, you know how this works, right? Any time there's a thorny political issue, the president appoints somebody to take it off the table and the media automatically calls them the czar. This happened during the Ebola. Remember the Ebola crisis? The Obama appointed Ron Klain to be the Ebola czar. And that's how the media branded him. It's a common it's a common incident in media and politics.
And for everyone to pretend that this isn't what Biden did with her is absurd. Right. All right, Charlie. People should pick up your book.
You did some inside. I imagine you should update it and have another appendage to it because she's now running for president unless something goes horrendously wrong. Charlie Spiering, author of Amateur Hour, Kamala Harris and the White House. Go get him, Charlie.
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