Top democrats to meet in secret as party split over Biden's candidacy

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Joining us now on the Brian Kilmead Show, on the Brian and Kilmead Show Newsmaker Hotline, Jonathan Turley, constitutional law professor at George Washington University, Fox News contributor, author of The Indispensable Right, Free Speech in the Age of Rage. And Jonathan, just one letter changes our last names. I feel very close to you, Jonathan. Welcome. Yeah.

Hurley meets Hurley. Yeah. Yes, if that's not confusing enough for people. I know. That's a rough start.

So let's get right into it. Your coverage has been excellent in your columns and, of course, your work on the Fox News channel and here on the Brian Kilmeat show. In terms of where we are right now, obviously the Supreme Court did something which changed a lot because Judge Juan Murshon, who didn't seem to give President Trump any break, any step of the way, delayed his sentencing. I mean, lickety split. Alvin Bragg couldn't wait to agree.

And then Judge Murshand followed like a few hours later.

So that's way delayed in New York versus Trump. You have Jack Smith. He sort of halted in his tracks. You have Judge Cannon, and she is delayed now, filing of certain things. The Supreme Court decision relative to presidential immunity changed a whole lot, didn't it, Jonathan?

I think the biggest change here is going to be for Jack Smith. His case is the one who will be hit the hardest. Most of us expect that Mershon is going to find that the case and the conviction still stands, that much of what was in the indictment falls into the third unprotected category of the Supreme Court. But clearly some of what went into the case Falls into the second category because it deals with conversations in the White House. It's Jack Smith that's going to get the full brunt of this hit.

By his case, uh particularly the one in Washington DC, Is all over this opinion. I mean, it is. The opinion talks about the fact that Trump's speech. On January 6th was protected.

Some of us believe that the speech was already protected entirely under the First Amendment. I strongly disagreed with Smith's reliance on that speech. but now it's also protected under presidential immunity. But also conversations in the White House that Smith has been relying on and other official acts are now presumptively protected.

Now what Smith has going for him is a motivated judge. You know, judge Chuck and could not be a better judge for Smith. She has done all she could. to fulfill Smith's objective, to try and convict Donald Trump before the election. The expectation is that she's certainly going to look favorably on his arguments again, but it's but it is very interesting about this opinion.

They clearly had Judge Shutkin in mind when they stated some very narrow and clear. Standards. Most of us expected the court to be somewhat ambiguous. It was not. And I think that It's anticipated that this could go on and on and on as they kick it back and forth to the district court.

So the language of the opinion is very clear, and Judge Chucken, in my view, has no choice. but to toss out much of the uh indictment. Do you think that leaves the zeal to want to bring him to a courtroom before November 5th, to get a conviction if they can grab one? That somebody like Jack Smith, who usually goes, as you know, whether it was Governor McDonnell and he was embarrassingly reversed 9-0 by the United States Supreme Court, I think all this ultimately is not going to stand very well either. But do you think they'll take whatever crumbs they can reassemble?

Cry uncle, I guess, on the stuff where, because the Supreme Court was rather unambiguous, that if it's an act while the president was in office, he's covered, and they said, even, and you can't even question the motives.

So there's very little, I think, but there is something there. Do you think they will be in a courtroom with former President Trump before Election Day? I do not. I didn't think that he could make that date even before the ruling. Remember, all the pretrial motions were put on hold while this was pending on appeal.

But also, this followed the Fisher decision, which said that you can't use obstruction charges the way that Smith has used them. Uh and so Fisher and the Trump case effectively tore the wings off his case.

Now can he still try to get this thing off the ground? Yes, I think he will. That's certainly in his character. It's certainly how he's perceived in the past. But he's really getting into areas where the chances of reversal are very high if he tries to.

stretch this law again.

So he's got to look at two of the four charges, which are very problematic, and in my view, are sort of dead as Dillinger. Then he's got to take a look at. The other two, in light of the immunity decision, And there's not a lot there. This is getting pretty darn thin.

Now there will be some people at the Department of Justice, I think, who may be finally getting the courage to tell Smith. Look, we do have an obligation here to follow what the Supreme Court says.

So you are not. A department onto itself. And so your case is taking on water. These are all hits below the water line. Maybe it's time for you to give up the ghost, at least in DC, and then you can focus on Florida.

How dead is Georgia and the Fonnie Willis case?

Well, that one, of course, is just a disaster. I was very critical of the indictment even before the scandal involving Willis and the former lead prosecutor. It was a terrible indictment. It was the worst RICO theory I have ever seen go before a court. My friend Andy McCarthy had a good line when he said he's never seen a RICO case where the only the first connection that any of these people had to each other was to be named in this criminal complaint.

And that's true, right? Because you look at this and there's nothing really connecting them except their shared political views. And when it came to President Trump, I think that it was always a dead letter. They were relying on protected statements, in my view. They were misrepresenting that call.

They put a lot of emphasis on this call he made to the Georgia Election officials, and they said that he was basically telling them to just make up votes. I listened to that call, and that is not what I thought the first time, the second time, or the last time I listened to it. It seemed to me. Like what President Trump was saying is, I want a state recall because I don't have to find that many votes, and neither do you to overturn the case, to overturn the outcome. Yeah, they turned the language into what they wanted it to be.

They turned language that has been used by many into something that is criminal. And I always thought that was a very, very political, flimsy case, and it seems to be collapsing because of their conduct. Yes, I also think that with this opinion, it's chock full of areas covered by the opinion. And so even if they can get it on the ground, it's going to face a serious challenge. We're visiting with Jonathan Turley, constitutional law professor at George Washington University, distinguished Fox News contributor and a best-selling author.

The case in New York City, and I've heard you speak eloquently on Why perhaps the immunity decision of the United States Supreme Court doesn't apply as much to that case as it does to the Jack Smith case? And I won't argue that. I know you're right. I don't think you're right about that. I know you're right about that.

However, I think it does apply, though. For example, Hope Hicks being able to testify, I think there's a problem with that in light of the Supreme Court decision and other evidence that was used and other issues that were brought up during this case. Am I on to anything there, Jonathan? Yes, I do think that the Hope Hicks testimony trips the wire. The question is going to be: what is the threshold for the court in tossing out the conviction?

I think the court is likely to follow a type of harmless error type of analysis. It's going to say virtually all of this, in my view, is private conduct. It's unprotected as part of the third group in the opinion. And there are some issues like the Hope Hicks testimony that could. Fall into the second group of just a presumptive.

Uh privilege. But the court's likely to say, I think they overcame the presumption. And even if they didn't, it was harmless error because. the evidence was so overwhelming otherwise. That's how I think he's likely to do it.

But remember, I think that there are layers of reversible error in the Manhattan case. I think that Mershon did just a perfectly dreadful job in that trial. How about the fact that it really didn't come out? What President Trump was even charged with Until the closing summation of the government. I mean, have you ever witnessed anything like that, Jonathan?

Yeah, I gotta tell you, I was in that courtroom, and I wasn't even clear after the government summation. It was not until the judges. Instructions that there was clarity on what the jury was being asked to look at. And it was the judge who clearly delineated the three possible crimes. And then he'd allowed the jury to.

Proceed to convict without being unanimous. And so, what the court told the jury is: you don't have to agree on why any of these actions were taken.

So, you've got one theory where you had falsification of documents to hide falsification of documents, which in itself is sort of just a, will give you vertical. But then you have another one that says, oh, it was to effectively steal the election under the federal election laws. And then, the third one, it was some tax violation, which sounded like it was Michael Cohen's violation, but it was not clear.

Now if those sound like different cases, It's because they are. It's because they are very different motivations of a defendant to have taken these steps to hide. And yet what Mershan said is, I don't care what you think actually happened, as long as you think there was some secondary crime, you don't even have to record whether you all agree on what that secondary crime was. Yeah, it's madness. In terms of, because we only know what we know, we know he delayed the sentencing until October.

You would know the date. It escapes me. That's quite a while. Should we read anything into how long he's delaying the sentencing? And then, is it just standard legalese?

Or is there something that we can glean from the short. verbiage that said if it's still necessary. Sentencing it all. I think that he I think that I think it's a September date, and I think that he's September. Yeah, I think that he's he knew that if he simply made fast work of this, he'd be begging for reversal because the nature of the Supreme Court opinion or the demands of the opinion requires consideration of the evidence under this new standard.

So he has to apply it. He has to allow for argument to occur. Otherwise, he's going to get reversed just procedurally.

So Jonathan, we're in the final thirty seconds. Is there anything to that language if it's still necessary?

Well, I think he has to say that as well because he has to say I'm open to the a possible rejection of the conviction, but few of us believe he's likely to do that. I would agree as well. Jonathan Turtleby, great to visit with you. Thank you. Good talking to Harry.

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My name is Harry Hurley, filling in for the great Brian Kilmead, who returns tomorrow, which is great news. And I know that, Eric. I know that 867-5309, Jenny. I know it well. Good stuff.

And boy, is there a lot. There is just so much that's going on. For example, What did they know? And when did they know it? Yeah, I know it sounds Nixonian, it's a very famous question.

for the ages actually. What Did he know and when did he know it? I'm modifying it to what did they know? And when did they know it? I'm referring to the Democrat media.

I'm referring to people like Corrine Jean-Pierre. to all the enablers That would come out of the woodwork and say that we're lying if we question whether or not President Biden is up. to the job. That they're just our eyes, our lying eyes and ears seem to see what they see. and hear what they hear.

And we were told no, we're liars and fake cheats and all this stuff, cheap fakes, all this stuff.

Now all of a sudden June 27th arrives and And they're all talking very, very differently. The Democrat media, what did they know? And when did they know it? Ericaten. It is not honest to say that this is just one night.

There have been moments like this. That people have seen in front of the cameras. There have been numerous instances where the president has lost his train of thought, can't pick it up again. Is Joe Biden the person who can stop Donald Trump? I'd like him to think that through carefully, because I have my concerns.

The real issue is. Is he telling the truth about whether he can serve a full four years? There is a reason that FDR was never shown in his wheelchair. There's a reason that John F. Kennedy pretended to be a vigorous man, but he was certainly not.

Blame it on a cold, blame it on his stuttering, blame it on overpreparation, whatever. But he did lose. Maybe he needs to go. Wow, that's a CNN, MSNBC. Palooza.

From people that I promise you, if you go back into the archives and check where have they ever spoken like that prior to June 27th.

Now, for example, Jake Tapper, is it honest to say that it's just one night? Has that there have been moments like this that people have seen in front of the cameras? Where's your reporting? On those moments that happened prior to June 27th. Can't they get away with you by saying, hey, this is the first time it ever happened?

You never said it happened before. The Joe Scarboroughs of the world that say this is the sharpest Joe Biden that has ever been, now all of a sudden, Jake Tapper and Carl Bernstein and Ignatius and Chuck Todd and Joey Reed and Sonny Hostin, they're all.

Now saying They they sound like Brian Kilmead now.

So how did this all happen? What did you know? And when did you know it? When we come back, somebody that's been very honest about this topic, Dr. Mark Sego is next.

This is the Brian Kilmey Show. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show with Allison Pete and Eric Harry Hurley filling in today for the great Brian Kilmead, who returns tomorrow. It is my pleasure to welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show Dr.

Mark Siegel, Fox News Medical Contributor. Best-selling author, COVID, The Politics of Fear and the Power of Science. And boy, did he call it straight during the COVID-19 pandemic. And he also called it straight during the Biden presidency because it's documented. It's well documented.

In an interview with Sean Hannity on August 5th, 2020, Dr. Siegel stated that President Biden's cognitive abilities are certainly fair game. And Dr. Siegel, welcome to Bryant's program. You were not afraid to talk about it then.

A lot of people either were afraid to talk about this or purposely. didn't want to talk about it for a variety of reasons.

Some that were covering, some that just didn't want to talk about it. I guess there were people that didn't see it.

Well, it seems to me that you did. You were not afraid to talk about this, were you? No, I'm not afraid to talk about things. And I think we we've reached a point now where we have to be angry at the handlers and even even the first lady Because the patient, if in fact President Biden is suffering from worsening neurodegenerative disease, he's going to be the last to admit it or know it. And so we need to feel compassion for him.

But not for people that may have covered this up. And the issue four years ago was, interestingly enough, I was interviewing President Trump at the time. And he and we've talked about cognition, and he had taken a cognitive test And he said, you know, I think that that's he said, I think that that's fair game because our the world leaders we're up against are sharp. Whatever you think of them, they're sharp, he said, when I was uh and I thought about that and I thought, you know, that's absolutely right, because something I've been focusing on, Harry, since two thousand eight is fitness for office. In two thousand eight The left wing media went crazy trying to figure out if if John McCain had a recurrence of a melanoma.

They looked at a thousand pages. And I said, Come on, he's fine. But then I said, Okay, you want this to be the standard for running for office? Let's show some transparency here. It's the United States, isn't it?

A democracy, not a banana republic. How about some transparency?

So I felt it should be across the board. And at that time, there already were some signs of slippage with President Biden. And I think one of the mistakes we made. And and all of us were guilty of this. We called these gaps GAF is a way of downplaying something.

If you if you use the word lapses, Rather than gaffes. It seems more significant. And again, I can't diagnose him over a video screen, but there are a lot of things going on. Spatial disorientation, irritability, denial, problems with gait. you know, mixing up things Memory.

Now you might if this was your grandfather, you might say, well, you know, he's getting older. And by the way, I don't like the age excuse either, because plenty of people over eighty are sharp as attack. That's right. But but this is a president, so cognition and executive function is number one on the list. Let's take a peek at an audio clip.

Dr. Siegel, and we'll get your take on it on the other side of it in just a moment. I'll set it up as follows. Obviously, the June 27th debate for President Biden was disastrous. And Democrats admitted it.

Republicans and independents, not affiliated, admitted it. 60-some million people watched it. Fox News channel led the way in viewership, which was awesome. And it was a terrible, terrible evening. Carl Bernstein called it a horror show.

He said, that horror show. Nobody was defending it, not even the president. He said, I'm offering an explanation, but I'm not defending my bad night that I had.

Well, here was George Stephanopoulos of ABC News in that sort of make-good, if you will. Interview to show that that was a one-off on June 27th, and that this is the sharp Joe Biden that should have been there on the 27th, but he didn't feel good and he was exhausted, even though he had been home for 12 days and six straight days at Camp David.

So, all these things were being said during this interview with Stephanophilus. But here's one in particular that the great Dr. Mark Siegel can comment on. Eric Cut 3. Have you had the specific cognitive tests and have you had a neurologist, a specialist, do an examination?

No, no one said I had to. No one said they said I'm good. Do you have the mental and physical capacity to do it for another four years? Look. I'm running again because I think I understand best what has to be done.

to take this nation to a completely new level. We're on our way. But are you being with yourself as well about your ability to defeat Donald Trump right now? Yes. Yes, yes, yes.

And he was pressed a few other times during the 22 minutes about a cognitive test. He's not interested in a cognitive test, and I can't say, Dr. Siegel, that I blame him.

Well, Harry, listen, again, he's the last to know, and he's not the one who sees what's going on. I think he sees the concern and the reaction around him, and that might make him depressed. which would then make his cognition even worse, by the way, if if I I'm concerned about But I think the rules What the doctor is doing. Look, he did have neurological evaluations. He's had multiple neurological evaluations.

That's in the report from his last physical and psychological report. That he was looked over again by a team of neurologists.

So I. Because if you're a neurologist and you're seeing somebody with issues. About the cognitive test, you do that for sure, but that is a low bar. What about an MRI? Dr.

Siegel, we're going to try go ahead. Please continue. We lost you for that. Yeah, and let me pose this question to you, Dr. Siegel.

Dr. Mark Siegel on the Brian Kilmead show. Just this past weekend. And he has to understand, and he's using a teleprompter, he has to understand that every mistake is now magnified. Everybody's watching, and people that had no interest in covering any of this are now relentlessly covering it.

So he was in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania over the weekend, as you know. He's speaking to the audience who he thanks for electing him to the United States Senate. He was crediting his audience in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania for electing him to the Senate, which, of course, would have only happened through his voters in the state of Delaware. Is this a gaff, or is this more of what we're talking about?

Well again, I'm not there or diagnosing him, but I think it it speaks to disorientation. And that disorientation comes from cognitive impairment. And you know, I want to use another term, Her Hair Harry, that no one has used. Which is cognitive reserve. When you're under stress, and you're right, he's under stress, he's defensive, he's under attack.

Well, look, a president of the United States is under attack, period. Yes. I was just watching Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis. Are you kidding me? We need a leader if something goes wrong that can handle the stress and not mix up what state they're talking about or what office they hold.

Dr. Sego, he told the Democratic governors, and this is widely reported, they're since denying it, but the governors are saying it happened, that he told them he needs to sleep more. He's not sleeping enough.

So, I mean, this is really incredible. I mean, this is like you're talking about the proverbial Hillary Clinton, you know, getting the phone call at 2 a.m. or 3 a.m., whenever it is, is something that has to be. You're not off at 8 o'clock at night. And then, of course, there's this content from insiders now that are telling the truth that he has 10 a.m.

to 4 p.m., that he's with it. And outside of that, he's not. This is scary. Terrible look for the United States and the face of the world at a time of world crisis going on in the Middle East and Ukraine. I mean, You know, seriously.

The idea that you need more sleep, everybody needs more sleep, but that's my point about cognitive reserve. How are you doing on little sleep? Not well?

Well, you have the highest office in the land. And I want to make one more point, Harry. It's not about age. Everybody keeps saying it's about age. We all know plenty of people over 80 that have more cognitive reserve than he appears to have.

Final minute with Dr. Siegel. We're going to make it count. The special counsel, Hur, Robert Hurr, basically said he's not prosecuting President Biden, although there were crimes committed because of basically mental acuity issues.

Now, I don't know how you can be President of the United States, but you are not qualified. to be a defendant. I mean, that's what you say to a juror who comes in with an excuse and says, look, I got a mental health issue and they excuse you from the jury. Can't be excused from President of the United States. That's a real that and that was very troubling when it was released, by the way.

And there's been more and more and more of this. And I think what we have to look at is why we're living in a place where people lie to us all the time or try to keep us from the truth. I think fitness for office is huge. And I think it's something that needs to be more and more transparent. One thing you've never heard, Harry, in this last minute, you're going to love.

In 1955, Eisenhower had a massive heart attack. And a cardiologist came down from Mass General and admitted to the public exactly what was going on and said, I'm going to use this. His name was Dr. White. I'm going to use this as a teaching moment for the country on coronary artery disease.

That's what we need now. Because you have to go right now, I'll do this as just a close-ended question, yes or no? If President Biden cannot continue as a candidate, how can could he continue to be the President for six more months? Yes or no? No, I think that's exactly right.

Fitness for office matters. It's not fitness for running for office. The voters decide then. This is fitness for office. It needs to be looked at right now, not six months from now.

Great to be with you, doctor Siegel. Thank you, Harry. You're welcome, sir. We will be right back. This is the Brian Kilmead Show.

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My name is Harry Hurley, filling in today for the great Brian Kilmead, who returns tomorrow. Wow, I have to tell you, almost like he's behaving like a gift that keeps on giving. President Joe Biden, in real time, has called into the MSNBC Morning Joe program with Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski, daughter of a famous Brzezinski in the Carter administration, as well. We have some of it. Eric, please share the word.

Well, look, Democrat, let me say it this way. The reason I've been out on the road so much all over the country and while Trump is riding around in the golf cart filling out his golf cart before golf cart before he even hits the ball. But anyway, he hadn't been anywhere in ten days. I've been all over the country, number one. And I've gone over the country for several reasons.

One, to make sure my instinct was right about the party still wanting me to be the nominee. And all the data, all the data shows that the average Democrat out there who voted, fourteen million of them that voted for me, still want me to be the nominee, number one. Number two, the idea that Donald Trump is has gained in any substantial way has his arguments to why he should be President is anywhere convincing than it was two weeks or three weeks ago. It's just not there. And we're just getting we're just starting to focus on Trump.

And look, I attended services, spoke to over six hundred people at Mount Airy Church of God in Christ in Philly. I stopped by campaign field offices with John Frederman and Madeleine Dean. Wow. has said that Biden is proving that he is, quote, delusional and in denial. He's been And in this interview that you didn't hear, President Biden also brought up his crowd sizes, that he's drawing crowds like no other.

And George Stephanopoulos in the, in the. Interview last Saturday night. or Friday night said that well you you know You really don't want to be talking about crowd sizes. President Trump can really draw crowd sizes. I mean, I note the famous Wildwood, New Jersey.

Beach Rally for President Trump that, even if you want to argue about it, drew somewhere between 80 and 100,000 people. I mean, that is just silly to bring up crowd sizes when you're running against a person that draws a crowd size that President Trump does. He's. President Biden is denying the polls. There has been a tremendous shift in the polls, even in Democrat-leaning polls, New York Times and some of the others that have come out.

And there hasn't been, there's been some polling since the debate, but a lot more polling is going to come out probably this week, and you'll have a good week or two of actual settling in. Of what took place. Because remember, there is a debate, and then there are the debates about the debate. And what happens sometimes after the fact, when it starts to bake in, oh my gosh, did you see it? Oh, no, I didn't see it.

You got to go see this. And then you hear these excuses President Biden gives, such as he was exhausted, he was sick. I mean, the man came home twelve days Before the debate from an overseas trip, and six straight days at Camp David completely out of view of the American people. I mean, you're confessing to the American people that you don't have the stamina to do the job when you say these things. you're running against a guy who's infatigable, and you're talking about to governors, you need more sleep, you're not getting enough sleep, and then the people are starting to leak things now about President Biden.

And then you do this interview with Stephanopoulos that Everyone, whether they are Democrats that do not want Trump to win or Republicans who do want Trump to win. and then independents and unaffiliated in between are all saying That the interview with ABC from last Friday night. Did not go well. It was twenty-two minutes. They say that it was unedited, that it was not touched, that it ran exactly as it was conducted.

And there were a lot of problems with that interview. President Biden talked about that he is campaigning and running the world. And really had a hard time. with the issue that we just talked about on the Brian Kilmeat show about Taking a cognitive test.

Now you're running against someone that's taken at least two cognitive tests. that I'm aware of with former White House physician Ronnie Jackson now a member of the House of Representatives. And Then doctor and now Congressman. Uh Ronnie Jackson, he was given permission by his client at the time. to discuss the results of the cognitive test.

I'll tell you another thing that's going to have to happen the next time that Karine Jean-Pierre holds a press conference. She said at the last one, that was the first one in two weeks, she said at the last one that President Biden has not had any doctor's appointment. Since A certain point in time since the debate. was the demarcation line on that particular question. And then it was confirmed later the same day.

that the President had a doctor's appointment. And now we're starting to even hear about. Cognitive. Types of issues that have been looked at.

So When you're not being forthcoming. And then you give Definitive answers, such as these are cheap fakes and they're edited, these videos, and you're trying to fake out the American people. That they're not seeing what they're seeing. June 27th took all of that out of play. Because for 90 minutes.

With no teleprompter and no note cards that say such things as walk to podium. And scary stuff like that. Sit down, get up, walk in, walk out. Wow. Much more, straight ahead.

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Michael Goodwin from the New York Post joins the program. Hello, Michael. Good morning, Harry. Thank you. Well, it is a pleasure to present you.

And I mean, if you are Joe Biden and you witness the cover. Of the New York Post today. Time to go, Joe. Exclamation point. And President Biden is in a wheelchair.

With a nurse ready to push him off the cliff. What a devastating headline, Michael. Yes, and I think it uh Nurse Ratchet there is uh an accurate disc uh likelihood of the uh Democratic Party right now. I mean, they have turned on him with a vengeance. Not everyone, of course.

But More than just a handful, I think, are leading this. Don't forget the Then yesterday that Hakeem Jeffries, the minority leader in the House, When he assembled the called the ranking members of various committees in the House. Of course, the Democrats are the minority party. And so none of them are chairs, but they are the ranking member. And half of them called for Biden to get out.

Now that's a That's not obviously a landslide, but it is very significant. And you have this sense that this is only going to grow. This this is not a This is not going to stop. with a relative handful. I think we still haven't seen The full impact of the debate and even his George Stephanopoulos interview, which I regard as a Zoom call for Democrats.

That's great. But I do think that it it's going to mount because The President really has nothing to offer at this point. it's it's do you think it's good enough so far?

Okay. Michael, isn't the key, though? Michael, isn't the key? And it's Michael Goodwin on the Brian Kilmeat Show. I think the key is that it is Democrats.

You look at the Democrats that a day before the June 27th debate would tell you he's sharper than he's ever been. You can't keep up with him. He's the guy with all the ideas. Nobody can keep up with Joe Biden. Only we never saw any of that.

Then all of a sudden, June 27th, The debate comes and goes, and those ninety minutes changed everything. My belief is. They didn't really have a conversion or anything. They knew it then. They were part of a cover-up, a massive cover up.

For anybody to believe that people only learned about that for the first time at that debate, I believe is complete Utter intellectual dishonesty. They could no longer deny it.

So now they always got away with Michael, and you've covered this and written about it all too well, because they would say Republicans are criticizing Biden. That ended it, because that's just politics then. But the Democrats are coming after him. This is a whole different ballgame, isn't it? It is.

And it but it's also a distorting development in the sense that. As you correctly say, many of us saw this all along. That performance at the debate was dramatic because it was a debate, a debate that he demanded, by the way, with a CNN moderators. I mean, with and he established the rules You know, no audiences, so it was all to his liking. And so that was a dramatic fail in a big, big moment.

But Then i if you're shocked by that, then you as you say, you had to have ignored or not taken seriously all of the things that we've seen over the years.

So you either knew or should have known, and it really puts them in a tight spot. Yeah, puts them in a tight spot. Let me give you this Nate Silver quote. I don't quote him often, but I will quote him today on the Brian Kilmey show to the great Michael Goodwin. The coverage before was clearly inadequate, and it centered too much on the electoral implications and not even more fundamental question of Biden's fitness for office.

The critics didn't change the underlying reality. They only made the media seem out of touch. The Democratic Party now finds itself in a state of crisis. And that's not an exaggeration. I mean, their convention is right around the corner.

They're fortunate they're going last. They have a little bit more time. And they're talking about this zombie thing called a Blitz primary. Hey, yeah, we got an idea. Every Democrat that wants to run and replace Joe, you get four weeks, like it's some kind of wrestling steel cage match or something.

They're going to be diving off of the top of the steel cage onto folding tables. I mean, is Biden going to make it, in your opinion, and be the Democrat nominee, Michael? I don't believe he is. I believe that the pressure will grow, that the donors will pull back, that the polls will continue to weaken. And I think that he will be faced with this decision in a way that it's obvious that he's headed for defeat.

But but Harry, I want to raise another issue, which is If he is not fit to run Is he fit now to govern. And it comes back to Robert Hurr and his finding that you can't prosecute Biden because no jury would convict him because he's this elderly, well meaning man, blah, blah, blah. With a poor memory. When you add these things together, how The fact that Merrick Garland will not release the audio recording of that interview. I mean, this is another example of a cover up.

And it's by the government itself. Think of it, even last week with the radio broadcasters getting the questions, people somebody in the White House or the campaign or both Had the idea, well, we can't really trust the president to answer questions on the fly, therefore we've got to give him the questions in advance, and let's give the questions to the interviewers. Uh I mean, this kind of thing has been going on all throughout his term. He it was hidden in 2020 because of COVID, so he could stay in the basement. Um but he's he's tried to govern that way.

He hasn't done interviews. He hasn't done the things that we now regard as normal, regular developments in a presidential administration, meaning press conferences, interviews. He he can't go out in public alone. Michael, you just made one of the most important points. COVID-19, and I have said this before over the years as well.

COVID-19 was basically Joe Biden's best friend. It enabled him to run the all-vote-by-mail election. It enabled him to run from the basement, which never would have been permitted. The American people would expect vitality and accessibility of the candidate. But he basically just did a little kind of two-step dance from Delaware to Pennsylvania, made it like he was getting out there a little bit, and then it was, oh, but he would have done it.

And come on, he's got 50 years of experience, but he's just so, you know, mindful and respectful of COVID-19 that we got him under completely false pretenses. And to quote the President, I don't think that's hyperbole. Yeah. Well And we shouldn't forget Why are you? All of this was acceptable to the media.

It was because they hated Donald Trump. Correct. And you cannot look at this era that we're in now. without taking note of how Donald Trump's Candidacy and then election, and now candidacy again for the third time have shaped. The media and the culture.

which of course the Democrats have a huge leg up on in all kinds of ways. And it's as though because of Trump, It's okay to make new rules. We can throw away the old. We can do whatever is good to defeat Trump. That will be the new standard.

And Michael, remember the difference when Bill Clinton was president, the media, same people basically said, you can be a personal scoundrel and a great president. They defended, they split the baby. They defended his personal conduct, but said he was a great president, so we were to overlook that. With Trump, he is just unacceptable. He is unacceptable to whatever norm they believe should be in effect.

So I've heard one of them actually say, even since the disastrous debate, an equally disastrous Stephanophilus ABC interview, that I would vote for Biden if he were in a coma over Trump. Exactly. That's the mentality. And when you understand that, Harry, to me it informs virtually everything.

So to go back to the Stephanopoulos interview and why I call it a Zoom call for Democrats. It is because it is not about Joe Biden's fitness to govern now. It is not about the issue of whether there's a national security moment, right? Remember Hillary Clinton's who's going to answer the 3 a.m. phone call?

Well, with Joe Biden, who's going to answer the 8 p.m. phone call?

He told the Governor's Association no more events after 8 o'clock. How about 4 p.m.? Because he's got people in his own intercourse.

So so the point being that all of these things are now acceptable to the media and to the culture Because anything that that beats Donald Trump is good. I mean, that is their whole value system. And so Stephanopoulos is there not to talk about America, but to talk about Donald Trump. Michael, final minute. If we agree, and I'm pretty sure I do agree with you, it's looking very bad that with what is happening right now and what you can sort of just see the momentum, and it's Democrats and more Democrats and more Democrats doing it.

I mean, you look at Democrat-friendly outlets that are now crushing him.

So if he's not the nominee, Wouldn't that mean he can't be the president for the next six months? Be Mike. conclusion that We should. Be worried about that. I mean, whatever side you're on, if you conclude.

That the Democrats have done, that all of these things that make him unelectable, well, they're happening now. He can't really govern. He can't have meetings because he can't recall names. He can't recall, well, how do we let him negotiate with NATO or China or any of our adversaries? What's going on in the Middle East?

What are his policies about? What about Iran? Why has Iran been able to make such a big comeback under Joe Biden? I mean, all of these things are relevant to the very reason Democrats don't want him to be the nominee now. And even though, and I know we have to go, even though...

There's a philosophy of governance difference. If he didn't have a mental acuity issue, the fact that there obviously is something that's not right sort of explains why he said, I listened to the generals in Afghanistan. The generals had to come out and say, No, no, he didn't listen to us. We would have never gone in that order. We would never have removed the military first and our citizens last and leave billions and billions and billions of dollars worth of valuable weaponry and vehicles and planes and such.

So then all of a sudden, Putin gets the courage because Biden tips, hey, you know, a little incursion. Yeah, that's okay.

So, and then, of course, Iran, they were on their knees, broke as a joke with Trump. They're reinstituted.

So, Biden broke the country and he broke the world, Michael. Yes, and the consequences of his policies have been forgotten in this democratic focus on whether he can win the election, not whether he could govern for four more years, but simply whether he can win the election, and it's all because of Donald Trump. That's what's driving this. You are fantastic. 30 seconds, closing comments.

Look, I think he will be gone for the very reasons we're talking about. Who's the nominee then? Kamala Harris? I think it that it's going to default to Harris, because there's no way that I can imagine, James Cliver notwithstanding, how you can have any kind of voting take place. You she's on the ticket and therefore she would I think they'll have to find some way of Biden releasing the delegates.

That's why this can't happen unless he agrees. He releases the delegates, they go to Harris. But then the pressure builds on him to resign the presidency so she can run as an incumbent. Yeah, and because he couldn't run, he can't be the president, so it would be that reason as well. Michael, great to be with you.

You're fantastic. My pleasure. Thank you, Harry. Take good care. We'll be back.

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I'm Harry Hurley filling in today for the great Brian Kilmead, who returns tomorrow. Oh, my goodness, he will return on such a busy Newsday. There's so much happening, including, by the way, the President Thursday And that press conference. That is going to be much more, in my estimation, make or break. Than ever the ABC Stephanopoulos interview.

Because what I think Stephanopoulos did was both simultaneously hold President Biden's hand. I want to give him a little bit of credit. He asked the questions that needed to be asked, and he followed up sometimes, even persistently, on like the cognitive test and things like that. And he did push back a bit, but I really think that was a skillful. Old political hand, former Clinton director of communications, holding the hand of the Democrat while you put on.

the appearance of a tough interview. When we come back, this is going to be very important because I hear President Biden all the time very harsh about Israel, very harsh about Prime Minister Netanyahu, but he won't say a bad word about China Xi or Iran. Hmm, I wonder why that is. Cliff May. is next on the Brian Killmeat show.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Welcome back to the Brian Kilmead Show with Allison Pete and Eric. My name is Harry Hurley filling in today. For the great Brian Kilmeat, who returns tomorrow on the Brian Kilmead Show Newsmaker Hotline, is Cliff May, founder and president of the Freedom for Defense of Democracies Not a Moment Too Soon.

Cliff, welcome to Brian's program. Thanks, Harry. Good to be with you. Great to be with you. I'm a fan of your work.

You've done a lot of important work for a number of years, including with President Bush that I remember. This one is on the tip of my tongue. Our current president, President Joe Biden, won't say a bad word about China's Xi. Iran, you name it. Nothing, never.

Uh he he actually r uh reconstituted uh Iran with with money that he made happen for them, which which obviously as the world's, as you know, largest sponsor of terrorism is a bad thing when they have money uh because they know what to do with it and it's not good. Uh aid to Ukraine, unconditional. Yet Our President regularly criticizes Israel, regularly harshly criticizes Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, seems to slow walk the aid, always seems to have conditions and criticism that comes along with it, like where you can use it and where you can't, and so on. Am I right about this, or do you disagree? No, I think you're right about this.

And I just want to pull back a little bit and look at this with a broader aperture because I think the thing that he's missing and too many are missing, and I think it's the most important development in the world, is you now have this axis Um and anti-American access. The most powerful player is obviously Xi Jinping in Beijing, but he has now formed a very tight alliance with Vladimir Putin in Moscow and with Supreme Leader Ali Khamehi in the Islamic Republic of Iran. Also, members of this axis, Kim Jong-un in North Korea, and increasingly countries such as Cuba, Venezuela, the South Africans are now more than flirting with it. You've got what's called the BRICS. Economic alignment, which includes India, but is increasingly anti-American.

It's very important to understand that we now have this group of adversaries. And they they are very different. There's a great difference between the Islamists of i Iran and the Chinese Communist Party, the most powerful Chinese c most powerful Communist Party in all of history. But what do they have in common? What they have in common is they all want to either diminish Or destroy the United States.

And end the American role as a leader of the free world. They don't want there to be a free world. If we understand that this is what we face, And I would argue, I'm not alone in this, that this is essentially a new Cold War It's also a more challenging Cold War than the last one. The Soviets were not nearly so powerful as this alliance of Beijing, Moscow, Territories. Terran and the others I've mentioned.

Could not agree more. I sometimes call them the Batman villains, but you are right. Those just joining the program, it's Cliff May, founder and president of the Freedom for Defense of Democracies. And your answer was so much better than the question. You know this because you know, and I really did mean that.

I wasn't being self-deprecating. I really mean that. It was a really important answer that you gave. You went to the core of a very significant issue that, because I think of our geopolitics and everything that's going on right now, some of the most important things don't get talked about. And it's really, I think, essential that you're here today on the Brian Kilmead show saying what you're saying.

And I remember when President George W. Bush talked about the axis of evil, but I almost want to say he wasn't lying, but compared to a quarter of a century later, it's really true now. It's gotten much worse. Is the point I want to make when the foundation for defense of democracies began just after the attacks of 9-11. The world was, in a way, simpler.

Yes, it was terrible that we had Al-Qaeda. Yes, it was terrible that we had jihadism. That was kind of a new word 22 years ago for most Americans. That we had Islamism, that we had terrorism being justified and driven by these various Islamist organizations and nation states, including Iran, by the way. That was all terrible.

But back then, After say two thousand and and Af after 9-11, 2002. We also thought that Russia was on its way to being more or less a liberal democracy, and we had very good relations, we thought, with the People's Republic of China. Keep in mind, in 2001, President Clinton brought China into the World Trade Organization. Really nobody on the right or the left thought that was a bad idea. If we make them richer, they'll become more liberal, more moderate.

That was under Deng Xiaoping. It seemed like a good idea. We thought we didn't have as much to worry about back then because we only had essentially these non-state actors plus the Islamic Republic of Iran. But now, as I say, we have a very different axis which includes both the Islamists, the Communists. Whatever you want to call Vladimir Putin, whatever you want to call North Korea.

And there's another. And it's an echo of it here in the US. where you're seeing on the campuses and other places this very odd alliance between those wrapping themselves in Kafaya and those calling for intifada and those calling for those who are pro Hamas. Being supported by the far left, also. Again, atheists.

Communists and Islamists all together because they all hate the same things. They all want death to Israel. They all want death to America. This is a very, very dangerous alliance that we're seeing form internationally and again here on American campuses and other places as well. We need to understand what this is if we're going to mobilize against it.

Cliff May, I want to talk about the hostages right now.

Some Americans, obviously Jews in with um Hamas. Uh has American weakness Permitted this to go on for this number of days, which now is in the unfortunate hefty three digits. We know they're not being treated well. We see the conditions of ones that are getting out at various points. It's not good, as you know.

Some have died. We don't know to what extent. Is this. at least in part, Amer a lack of American leadership. Mm-hmm.

And let me give you some of the ways. Hamas has leaders obviously in Gaza, mostly we think in tunnels underneath the cities of Khan, Yunis, and Rafa. But there are also leaders of Hamas that in other places, most particularly in Qatar, in the capital of Doha, where they are multi-millionaires coming from skimming aid money. We've allowed this to persist for a long time. The kind of view was: okay, at least through the Qataris who Founder, President Biden became a major non-NATO ally.

That's quite a designation they were given. We thought, okay, we can at least negotiate with these people and talk. Once the attacks of 10-7 happened, once Americans were being held hostage and others were being held hostage, with the Red Cross not even being allowed to see them, the U.S. should have said, I think, to the Qataris. You're a major ally of ours.

You are hosting leaders of Hamas. You need to tell them the following: that they either call for the release of the hostages, whatever else, immediately. Or you will see them as accomplices to the crime of hostage taking, and you will put them in your prisons. That's what we expect you to do if you're our ally. And instead, we let them go, well, can you negotiate a little bit?

Can we talk to them through you? Maybe they can come up with a deal. Maybe they can. And it was all sweet and light. And I think American leadership would have said, you understand this is why we've supported you.

This is why we made you an ally. This is why we give you so an incredible sum of money. Because the Qatar is, you know, it's a very tiny population. Most of the people who do the work are not citizens of the country. They come from someplace else.

They support Al Jazeera, which is a propaganda organization, and they have spent billions on American campuses, billions. I would say corrupting American campuses in various ways, not least in terms of Islamism and Middle East studies departments.

So yes, that is one of the things that the U. S. could have done to show leadership is to say we're a superpower We have a request for you. We'll call it a request to be polite, but here's what we need you to do for us. There you go.

Cliff May on the Brian Killmeat Show. And it seems to me, this is not original to me, but it's my observations as I see it. The weakness and Disorganization. It was incredulous what happened in Afghanistan. I believe that emboldened Putin to take a run at Ukraine.

I think he would have sensed weakness upon the American President Biden and done it anyhow. But after the debacle of Afghanistan and how we did everything, a child would have said, Well, you get the American people out first, you make sure you get our stuff out, and then the military leaves last. You don't take the military out first and so on and so forth and leave the people for last. I mean, a child would have negotiated that better and handled it better. And I don't think we would have had the 13 dead, and I could keep going there.

So that emboldens Putin, who then hears Biden say, Well, you know, a small incursion, you know, seems okay to me. And then, of course, Iran is almost nuclear now.

So when there is a vacuum of American leadership, something fills that, doesn't it, Cliff? A hundred percent correct. I can understand Americans feeling do we have to be the most we have to lead the free world, do we have to ac accept all this responsibility? The problem is, as you say, if the America if America retreats, If America withdraws, if America capitulates even to the Taliban, then who is going to be the world leader? Who is going to order the world ruler?

Well, in Beijing, Xi Jinping knows who he thinks it should be. He thinks it's time for the Americans to step aside and let the People's Republic of China under the Chinese Communist Party take over. And the problem is that if America doesn't show leadership, doesn't show strength, can't deter its enemies, then what happens? There are no strong nations that are good enough to lead, and there are no good enough nations that are strong enough to lead. I like Denmark, I like Lithuania, I like Estonia.

They can't do the job. Those who can do the job, we're talking about Xi Jinping, we're talking about Vladimir Putin, and we're especially talking, not least, about the supreme leader of Iran. These are all neo-imperialist powers.

So, all these kids who say they're against imperialism, they're against 19th-century imperialism. But what about 21st century imperialism. They don't seem to understand it exists. Cliff May on the Brian Kilmead Show. This, I think, is a big deal.

It doesn't get talked about enough. The dollar as the world's backup currency just always accepted America's exceptionalism, that the world looks to the American people, to America, to the United States of America for leadership. All the things that you were eloquently stating, Cliff. But there are now nations, even some that were recently friendly nations of ours, that want to back away. From the dollar being the backup currency.

And that I submit to you, Cliff May, is part of a plan. To take America down and out as the world's leader and replacing it with something else that you were talking about, your thoughts. Yes, this is you're quite right about this. It is a benefit for the U.S. that we have the dollar as a reserve currency, that we have a strong dollar, helps us all economically.

It's one of the things that helps us all economically. And yes, first of all, China in particular wants to end that. And one of the ways and one of the organizations meant to end that is the one I mentioned earlier, BRICS. It's an acronym for Brazil. Russia includes Iran, does include India, includes South Africa.

And these nations all want to diminish the U.S. economically as well as politically, as well as militarily, in all ways. Again, America is meant to be not great again. America, our enemies want America to be an over-the-hill former superpower. Understand what the world will be like if that, if we leave, if we allow that to happen, understand the kind of world we'll lead to our children.

It'll be a little like we didn't win World War II and stop the Nazis. It'll be a little like we didn't during the Cold War and stop the comm and stop the Soviets. Again, I point out to you that if the Communist Party of China, the strongest and most rich and militarily capable Communist Party in history, becomes the world's superpower, in a sense we've lost the Cold War. We just won one battle in the last century. Cliff, final minute, that hurt, and it was so it hurt because it was so true.

What you said, I think of my father, who was a World War II hero, the generation that saved the world and how many lives we gave up to save the world if we were just to hand back all of those gains. I mean, I I'll use the term that should be criminal. Closing comment. Yes, I think that's exactly right. I think we have look, we don't want to be number one because it's so cool.

We need to be number one because there's nobody else who can do the job if we believe in a world in which there will be freedom, in a world which our kids will have the kinds of things that We have, thanks to your father, thanks to my father, who bought from the South Pacific. That is the legacy we got. That's the legacy we need to. Turn over to our children and grandchildren. Cliff, let's stretch 30 seconds because I want you to, you're so good.

I want you to comment on Saudi Arabia and our relationship. Look, I'm not defending Khashoggi, likely went out in a suitcase, you know, in pieces. I'm not defending any of that stuff. But I think that our current administration has really blundered our relationship with Saudi Arabia, which, with everything that's going on that you've talked about, that's an important one, isn't it? It is, and I agree with you, and I'll try to do this real as quickly as I can.

I've been to Saudi Arabia on a number of occasions. My belief is that the Crown Prince, Mohammed ibn Salman and here's an important distinction. Is he a sincere reformer? Yes. Is he a democratizer?

No. But it's an important distinction. He wants that country. He is the crown prince. He expects 50 years from now, he'll be in his 80s, he'll be the king.

He wants to have transformed that country from a place where gas is pumped from the ground into a major world economic, intellectual, all kinds of power. I see what he is trying to accomplish. It is a good thing. 10 seconds. If he can accomplish it, want him to do it.

Yes, he is an important ally right now. He wants to see that we are strong. He wants to see that Israel is strong. Cliff May, we have talked about some of the most important things that nobody's talking about right now because of these other circumstances, geopolitical and otherwise. Great to present you.

Hope to talk to you again sometime. Thank you, Cliff. My pleasure. Thanks, Harry. You're welcome.

We'll be right back. All I can say is: wow. To quote Joe Biden, that's not hyperbole. This is. The Brian Kilmead Show.

Expanding your knowledge base. It's the Brian Kilmead Show. Radio that makes you think this is the Brian Kill Me Show. He's very lucid, well very well informed. He speaks uh quietly and a little bit slowly, but you know, we've spent way too much time talking about this president's age, and I'll say it again.

When Ronald Reagan was the oldest person. To ever be in the White House and to run for reelection, I don't recall a lot of people within his own party talking about the fact that we need to get another person. He's too old. He's totally focused, he's very sharp, and the proof is in the performance. But comparing That guy's mental state, I've said it.

For years now. He's cogent. Mm-hmm. But I undersold him when I said he was cogent. He's far beyond cogent.

In fact, I think he's better than he's ever been. Intellectually. Analytically. Democrats themselves, who are in the meetings with President Biden, they say that he's all there. Biden is stately and he comes with gravitas, but he's not entertaining.

Wow, that's Paul Krugman. That's Paul Begala, that's Joe Scarborough, who should be ashamed of himself. What are they saying now? How does all of that. Hold up now.

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If you listen, and and let me just give you an example. We're going to play a montage. Which will take Just seconds, less than a minute. And it will be the same people: Jake Tapper of CNN, Carl Bernstein of CNN, Ignatius from MSNBC, Chuck Todd of MBC, Joy Reed of MSNBC, Sonny Hostin, who I've never heard say a bad word about Joe Biden, nor have I ever heard a good word about President Trump on that lousy show, The View.

So listen to them. Post-debate. It is Breathtaking, it is stunning. It's a first, I think, for every single one of them who I've never heard say a bad word, period, no matter what. They defended everything.

Joe Biden. Not now. Cut ten, Eric. It is not honest to say that this is just one night. There have been moments like this.

That people have seen in front of the cameras. There have been numerous instances where the president has lost his train of thought, can't pick it up again. Is Joe Biden the person who can stop Donald Trump? I'd like him to think that through carefully, because I have my concerns. The real issue is.

Is he telling the truth about whether he can serve a full four years? Do you we want a president who could be incapacitated? There's a reason that FDR was never shown in his wheelchair. There's a reason that John F. Kennedy pretended to be a vigorous man, but he was certainly not.

Blame it on a cold, blame it on his stuttering, blame it on overpreparation, whatever. But he did lose. Maybe he needs to go. Yeah, well, that's what they say now. That's not what they said for more than four years because you have to count the campaign as well.

Never. Anything bad to say, but listen to them now. And what you didn't hear Carl Bernstein of Watergate fame say, he called The Biden-Trump Debate. A horror show. And he was only referring to President Joe Biden.

To your calls we go. Ben is in North Carolina. Ben, thanks for listening to the Brian Kilmeat show. Will President Biden be the Democratic nominee, yes or no? I think no.

I don't trust the Democrats as far as you could throw them. They definitely got what they deserved pushing this propaganda Against America. Knowing. that Joe Biden was in the state he's in. They picked him over Bernie Sanders.

And then They promoted him so they could puppet him. through the next campaign. And it's just wrong. And I can't believe that people who who believe All the media for all these years don't finally see the light.

Well, I think they do now, Ben. Ben, quickly before we have to run, who will be the nominee if it's not President Biden?

Well, it's got to be Harris. And by the way, I'm from Brian's hometown in Massapa Park, Daniel. It's even more famous now. More famous family.

Well, I'm a plumber there. I'm famous. It's more famous. Ben, great to take your call. And thanks for the shout out to Brian's hometown that I hear Brian speak about with such fondness, even reverence.

And he's none too happy, obviously, about the serial killer allegations. We head to Las Vegas just to give our listeners around the country an idea. The record. Temperature, high temperature for Las Vegas is 117 degrees, although for the next two or three straight days, it's supposed to go to 118 degrees, which will be an all-time record. And don't let anybody tell you, oh, it's not the heat, it's the humidity.

118 is hot. Sassan is in Las Vegas, Nevada. Sassan, welcome to the Brian Kilmeat Show. Hi there. Hi, hi, thanks for taking my call.

So I'm a physician here in Las Vegas, and we stay indoors, so that keeps us pretty safe or close to our pools. But at any rate, as a physician, I want to just uh show outrage that here the administration, the president, And all of them come out with a straight face and say, I don't know where he has a cold. It's not a cold. You don't have a cold without any stiffness. Snuffling that's And doctor, he also said, the president also said in the ABC interview that he was exhausted.

Now, you're the doctor. I'm just a talk show host, fill-in guy for the great Brian Killmead, but this much I do know: if your overseas trip ended 12 days before the June 27th debate, and for the final six or seven days you were completely out of public view, sleeping as much as you wanted at Camp David. I mean, if you're citing exhaustion at that point, you're self-reporting at that point. More outrage about the lies, lies, lies. And they have the audacity to say Donald Trump is a liar.

And but his voice that being hoarse is because of the stimulants he's on. Stimulants like amphetamines, fenteramine, and Adderall, all those give visual constriction of the vocal cords and make the vocal cords dry, no matter how much he's drinking. And somebody needs to call him out and show outrage.

Well, you just did, Doctor. And I thank you for listening and calling into the Brian Kilmeet show. We're going to be joined now by Steve in St. Louis, Missouri. Steve, does Biden stay?

As the nominee, or does he go? I think he sticks around or stuck. At least I hope these sticks ride. I got $1,000 riding on this. That's personal.

It's financial. But now, I think that's important. Obviously, that's a lot of money, and I don't know if you have odds on that on top of the thousand, but we won't go there. But I will say this: No, it's just win or loss.

Okay, but Trump's going to beat Biden's. Gotcha. Beyond, and I think you're right about that. Beyond the wager, though. about the country.

I mean, we literally have a president who's told the Democratic governors, I have to sleep more. I don't know how much he sleeps now, but he's had two staffers come out and say anonymously that he's really only functional from 10 a.m. to 4 p.m. A lot of bad things happen. During the 4 to 12 shift, if you know what I'm saying, so and the midnight to eight shift, so nothing but problems here.

That's something for people to think about the good. They keep talking about Republicans or fascists and this and that.

Now, Steve, all kidding aside, if you didn't have a $1,000 wager head-to-head on Trump beating Biden. Would you still believe that Biden was staying? Yeah, I still believe they're stuck. I think you're right. They made their bed.

They're stuck with that now. Good to talk to you, Steve. Here's the only comeback I would say to that, to counter that: is. The Democrat media All you have to do is look at people that never said a bad word for more than four years, are now coming after him. Big time.

So, I don't know. They look like they're going for the takedown. We'll see what Jerry has to say in the Peach State, Georgia. I've got family there right now. Jerry, welcome to the Brian Kilmeat Show.

Hey, I'm sorry, she misheard me. It's Gary, but I'm not. Gary, that's okay. That's all me. Yeah, no problem.

I think Biden will stay in. I don't think that they can replace him without disrupting the party cohesion right now. I do think that the media and a lot of the prominent members of the party have kind of, as you say, turned against him. But the main party leaders like Obama and Bill Clinton and the governor of California over there, Newsom, are coalescing back around him. And I don't think they'll replace him because I just don't think that they have a good alternative, nor do they have a way of implementing that alternative without creating some disruption in the party cohesion.

Hey, Gary, quick sidebar, because you are in the great state of Georgia where obviously the Fonnie Willis so-called trial is on hiatus, delay, on hold, whatever you want to call it for the moment. Does that get much play on a daily basis in your state? No, I don't tune in to the local news much, but they really don't talk about it. I'm more toward the south end of the state, and that's, of course, toward the north end. But I don't really hear much about it on local news.

And even with that, Gary, President Trump has a comfortable lead in Georgia over President Biden.

So it's almost like that's baked in and people know it for what it is, political. Absolutely. I don't think it'll have any effect on the election. Everybody's talking about Biden right now. Which is a good thing for Trump, for sure.

Gary, great to visit with you. Thanks for listening to the Brian Kilmead Show and for calling in. We want to take more of your phone calls right after the break, so please don't go away. 866-408-7669. Call us now.

The topic this half hour on the Brian Kilmead Show is: do you believe? Or do you think differently with regards to whether Joe Biden, President Joe Biden, will be the Democratic nominee for president, yes or no? And if that answer is no, Who do you think will be the nominee? We'll be right back. This is.

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People want to come together. They're so tired of like the Vietnam-era generation and the fights that we've been having basically since the Vietnam War with each other. We are not each other's enemy. We are each other's, you know, we're patriots here to try to make America successful. We're friends, we're family members, and we got to heal, but we need a candidate that can come in and do that.

I particularly think Kamala Harris can come in and help us heal. See how he did that? That is former Ohio Congressman Tim Ryan living the bream on Fox News Sunday with Shannon Bream. See how he did that? Now he did that with a velvet touch.

That's no different. They never would have done this stuff. prior to june twenty seventh. You hear what he just did. He just turned the page on the sitting president of the United States who is fighting to stay in this thing.

I'm telling you, all the signs are there that he's not going to make it. But don't underestimate, though. Biden's, whenever possible, they pick Biden's, and they're going to fight very, very hard for this. Joining the program now, the Brian Kilmead Show, is Doug from the great state of Texas. Hey, Doug, you're on the air.

Oh, thank you for allowing me on the air. Of course. I think, yes, that he's going to be the nominee because I can't afford not to. During the june twenty seventh debate, Trump said it himself that Biden was the China Manchurian candidate.

So there you have it. And I appreciate the call, Doug. You believe he stays. A lot of people believe he stays.

However, a lot of people. Are saying he's gone. And when you see these Democrats like Jerry Nadler and folks like that lining up and publicly saying that the President needs to step down, and boy, they know what they're saying too. They they also know that they're basically saying he would need to leave his presidency early. I mean, that is amazing stuff.

Joanne joins us next in Michigan. Joanne, welcome to the Brian Kilmeat Show. Thank you for taking my call. I believe that Joe Biden will stay in the race because Hunter Biden needs a pardon. And I think it's that simple.

But remember, he could make that. I'm not disputing you, but he can make that deal. President Ford pardoned President Nixon. It cost him, likely, his own presidency because the election was so close, even having pardoned President Nixon. He could easily say that, and by the way, he could pardon him on his way out anyhow.

Yes, that's true. And that's why I'm saying that the income tax evasion hasn't even started yet in California. I know, but he can pardon him for that in advance. Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon for things that hadn't happened that never happened, and then they couldn't happen because he pardoned him. He pardoned him for anything that happened with the Watergate break-in, for the cover-up, for the tapes, and anything else.

So Nixon was any federal thing was over for Nixon. Joe Biden can do the same thing. And even though he says That he's not going to pardon his son. He is going to pardon his son. Joanne, thank you for the call.

George is going to join us next in sunny Florida, the Sunshine State. Welcome, George, to the Brian Kilmead Show. You're on the air.

Okay. Hi. How you doing? Good. I believe that the Democrats, they know how to play politics a lot better than the Republicans, and Biden will probably not stay in the race.

And they do want to get Gavin Newsom in there, but I believe Kamala Harris will be their pick. They're going to go through the numbers and figure out what happens there. Thank you so much for your call. We're going to go to John in Virginia. John, welcome to the Brian Kilmeat Show.

Thank you for taking my call. I I know Joe doesn't want to get out, but if they keep the pressure on him, And let's say they ease up on his medications, he's not a healthy man at all. I think he'll be forced out. And if If they're smart. And if she'll agree to it, if they get, say, like Michelle as her running mate, Man, we're done because everybody looks at Michelle as like the Oprah of politics or the den mother.

We really are. That that'll be a very bad combination for us. John, good to take your call. Let's go to Lance in Galloway Township, New Jersey. I know that area very well.

My neck of the woods. Lance, you are on the Brian Killmeat Show. Hi. How are you, Harry? A gracious good morning and a wonderful July 8th.

I think they should let Biden stay in, even though like a card game, you got to play the cards you were dealt. And it's not our fault he doesn't have a full deck. And I'd just like to add, Harry, you remember the years back in the day when you were a. uh an outstanding and uh sought after Referee, producer. I do remember those days, but guess what, Lance?

We're going to have to talk about it another time because we have run out of time. This is. The Brian Killmeat show, The Great Paul Morrow, joins us next. Don't go away. The fastest three hours in radio.

You're with Brian Kilmead. You have repeatedly said that all of these people and entities are wrong. And let me go through them: the New York Times Editorial Board, The Economist, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, the Boston Globe, Jerry Nadler, Seth Moulton. Let me go to Julian Castro, Tim Ryan. David Axelrod.

David Remnick, Richard Haas. Yeah, I know which one you're responding to there. Zeke Emmanuel. But they they're they are saying that you should step aside.

So what is your plan of attack moving forward? These are pretty big names. They're big names, but I'm not I don't care what those big names think. The law is 2020. They're wrong in 2022 about the Red Wave.

They're wrong in 2024. And go with him, come out with me and watch people react. You make a judgment. Here he goes again. Watch me.

Oh, we did. We did watch you. Wow. That is pretty wild stuff. That's Morning Joe.

with Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski. I don't know what happened to Joe Scarborough. I used to interview him all the time, and then he just completely flipped. One day he was one philosophy of governance, and it seemed like the next day He was the exact opposite. I don't know how people do that.

And Mika Brzezinski, I've never heard her ever say anything critical about Joe Biden. That was almost like a unicorn sighting listening to some of that. And then you had President Joe Biden, and I guarantee you sitting at his desk with no cards with his name on the top and all these different items because you see the difference between note card Joe, teleprompter Joe, and debate Joe for 90 minutes with no note cards allowed and no teleprompter allowed. I know that they are offering all these exhaustion excuses and things like that, but it really is as simple as he needs the note cards. They even say on them how to walk to the podium.

You go in, you sit down, you go to podium, you leave the podium. I mean, come on, let's you know, we're not going to kid anybody anymore. It's it's safe now. It's safe to come out and say what really is happening here. Joining us now.

On the Brian Kilmead show is Paul Morrow, former New York Police Department inspector and a great Fox News contributor. Paul, good to interview you. Ready to be here. An honor to have you.

So let me begin because I'll draw on your experience as a lawman and also as an officer of the court, as an attorney. Let's go through the different cases that President Trump currently faces. I'm going to start with the one that I'm going to call maybe the most pressing of the moment because he actually was convicted, the president, and there is a sentencing date, although delayed. There is a sentencing date, although I did like it when I saw that Judge Mershon wrote, if necessary, almost leaving it open, like, hey, you know, I did let Hope Hicks testify. I did let all this other stuff come in that involves presidential immunity.

So Judge Murshon sort of indicating that maybe he's open to not even sentencing President Trump. I won't wager you on that, Paul. I promise you, I will not place a wager on that prospect because I think he does intend to sentenced. Sentence the president, but let's start there. How much do you believe the Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity has impacted the New York versus Trump case?

Well, I think any impact whatsoever on it has got to be sitting in Judge Mershawn's mind because Look, he reads polls as well, and this case was preposterous.

Okay, and I don't say that very often. As officer of the court, I attempt to be a on the New York court, New Jersey court, the various federal courts, et cetera. And you want to be quite measured in your analysis of these things, but This case was so outside the norm. that it's very hard not to see it purely in political terms. And The investigation of this case.

Is what's looming in the background. And that's not, you know, you don't hear too, too much about that, but we forget that. In House Judiciary, Jim Jordan. Has ongoing investigation with Supreme Power, and he's also already, excuse me, sent out letters. Rishon's office.

Bregg's office to Colangelo. and various other entities. Here's where he's going to end up. And again, not something you hear too much about, it's kind of inside baseball. Chief Administrative Judge for New York City is a woman named Ellen Biban.

She's responsible for scheduling, picking the judges, et cetera. And a hue and cry was rightly raised about the fact that Mershon ended up on both the accountant Trump's accountant, Weiselberg, and then the Trump case, and then also the Banning case.

Furthermore, The scheduling of it, but the Trump case was certainly expedited. It went to trial. far more quickly than normal. while murderers are patiently waiting their turn in court sitting in Rikers. All of this stuff is inside baseball that should not happen.

And I think there's a good chance Jordan's going to get to all of that stuff. Murjan knows this. He's probably counting on the fact that Biden was going to have his back The rumor around New York is he wants a federal judgeship, and so that's why he made the little donations, etc.

So if this thing is going to start to evaporate on him, You know, the music's going to stop. He's going to be the one without a chair.

Now, you know, I don't know what that means in terms of his career, but what I do think it means is exposure. And at this point, I've gotten to the point where I believe any conspiracy because they all end up being true.

Well, look, everything you said is true, and his daughter also, I think, gives him a gigantic conflict of interest with the money she has raised in anti-Trump causes. You know, that's your daughter we're talking about here, Judge. And come on. I mean, and the fact that he was himself a contributor, it doesn't matter to me what the amount was. I mean, even ABC.

When George Stephanopoulos got caught covering the campaign, but also financially contributing personally to Hillary Clinton, they removed him from the campaign for the rest of the election. That's just a media guy. Here's a judge. I thought so too, Paul. And I want to get your take on that.

Isn't he I know that Congresswoman Stefanik Has slapped him. with a lot of ethics complaints and misconduct complaints and things like that. I know it's New York and they could just, you know, wallpaper over it all and take care of the guy, but isn't he wide open with these various ethics Conflicts that he has? I'm actually going to agree with the statement you just said. It's New York, and I would say that his protection at the state level regarding his licensing, et cetera, is baked into a cake.

They're capable of anything. But I do think that the wider investigation outside of New York into what happened here procedurally is potentially damaging. And let's remember something else. Colangelo, who left the federal government, number three in DOJ, to come to New York to work for Brent. You know, there's going to be communications there.

By the way, who does that? Who does that, Paul? Who does that? Exactly. Nobody does that.

So they're going to get a hold of those comms. And, you know, they were probably pretty careful. They're experienced people. But I think you could get to the point where you might even be able to throw these people into a grand jury, maybe get a hold of somebody who will talk to you. To demonstrate that there was a pretty wide range ranging conspiracy here.

to put together this preposterous case which Legally. doesn't even it's not even logical. And I'm not going to bore your listeners with it because we've all heard of what was going on. But the construction of the case just is a house of cards that falls apart with the slightest scrutiny. And remember something else.

Mershawn's wife. Worked for Or Tish James at the Attorney General's office, who also worked at the Attorney General's office. Wow. Carlangelo. And Colangelo worked, in fact, on the case that Tish James brought against Donald Trump.

He said, I'll work for free, he said. That's right. So he's a gun for hire against Trump. And by the way, didn't he only leave because Alvin Bragg decided not to prosecute Trump? The whole thing is a self-licking ice cream cone.

It's all there, ready to just be weaponized against Donald Trump. You know, the problem here is this, and this is something Rush Limbaugh used to say, which was very perceptive. You may not get the communications. It may not be there, and it's because they know what to do. They're all reading from the same script.

It's not like there's going to be an email that went out from Democrat Central telling them to do this, this, and this. They know what's expected of them. They just do it.

Well, like the whole Democrat media has turned on Biden, and nobody had to send a memo out. They just all know: okay, we're not with him anymore.

Okay, you got it. And away they go. Exactly. That's right. Exactly right.

They know in their bones what's got to be done in order to hang on to power in order to keep a genuine reformer like Donald Trump. Whatever you think of Donald Trump, to try to keep politics out of it, whatever you think of his demeanor, his comportment, whatever, the bottom line is he's been the most reformist. President of our lifetimes, and had he not been hamstrung by those BS investigations, all of which went nowhere, we would be far better off than we would not have been had he been in office. And that's why people want another four years of it. We want to see what he can do without one hand tied behind his back.

All right, I'm going to risk the great Paul Morrow laughing at me, but I'm going to pose the question anyhow. Paul, is there any possibility? I guess it's, you know, even in Dumb and Dumber, you say there's a chance.

So is there any possibility, reasonable possibility, that Judge Murshan over the next couple of months, because he didn't delay the sentencing for five minutes, he delayed it for several months.

Now, that could be to make it look good. Oh, I really looked at this because, you know, I wanted to study the Supreme Court decision. If he came out five minutes later, it would look very bad.

So could he, though, say, I let Hope Hicks testify. I let all this other stuff come in where this presidential immunity appears to be. you know, uh uh unilateral here. And I can't even question Trump's motives, it's just there, it's implied, it's given, it's granted.

So that's the highest court saying that to Mershon. Could you see a scenario where he would throw out the conviction? I would say it's remote. It could happen. Here's what would happen.

He wouldn't say that Trump has immunity from the conviction. What he would have to do is, and that's why at least ostensibly, He would grant himself all this time and both sides time to submit their motions because. What happens now is the Trump side is going to submit motions saying that a lot of the evidence now under the Supreme Court ruling should be immune and so should not have come into the case. And he's right. And he's right.

And so then the other side, of course, the Bragg side is going to say, no, no, no, no, it still comes in. And then it's going to be a little bit more.

Now, Paul, let me ask you this: if this trial were starting now. And they were reviewing all the witnesses and all these things. I don't believe Mershon would be able to allow Hope Hicks to testify. Do you agree with that statement? I think that's probably true.

And, you know, I don't think you'd even be able to get them into the grand jury, which is what you need to get the indictment. How about Michael Cohen? Because Cohen was an attorney for Trump. How would that be? How would he even be permitted?

to do what he did.

Well, we'd have to look at the timeline. It was 2017, so Trump was president.

So, yeah, I'm thinking back on it now.

So, the stuff prior to him being president, remember, the immunity attaches to the president.

So, Trump would have to have been sworn in office as of 20 January of 2017.

So, let me repeat the question, Paul. Could he make a decision to throw out the verdict because the jury heard things that they should not have been able to hear?

Well, you asked tough questions. I I'm going to say this. I think that if he does, like everything else around this trial, it will be a political decision. And I'm sorry to say that, but I think. I agree with you.

If he can keep this thing alive, I think he will, because it is close to the election. It does allow Trump to travel before, which we thought was going to be an issue. We might not be able to go to the convention, et cetera.

Okay. They delayed the sentencing, so now Trump can do some of that.

However, if he locks Trump up for six months, then Trump literally will be sworn in while sitting in Rikers.

So he might enjoy that optic as well, knowing the way this case went. I'd like to think cooler heads will prevail. And if they do, as I said, I think it's going to come down to the fact that the people in and around him, as well as the judge himself, may very well be able to read the papers and say, okay, this guy may win, and he may take the whole Congress with him, and they're going to look hard at me. I better stop poking their baby. Ah, see, now you're talking.

It isn't doing the right thing. It's doing the right thing by him. He needs to land, and he wants to have a soft landing and not some spectacular crash landing. This went way too fast. We're down to two minutes.

Give us your best two minutes, Paul, on special counsel Jack Smith. Did he get the crew cut from the United States Supreme Court that I, as a layperson, think they gave him? Yes, I would opine yes. Those are the cases that are really taking the hit here. First of all, the january sixth cases, rather, sorry, are taking a major evidentiary hit.

And as we discussed earlier, when the evidence starts to go thanks to the immunity issue, Then a case starts to go. And I think that one you really got to look at. And as far as the documents case, well, Judge Cannon just delayed it. That's not going to go to we're not going to see anything close to a trial before the election. And were Trump to win, and it certainly looks like now it's his to lose, then he's going to make the whole thing moot and just grant them self-immunity, which is almost too bad because it would be fun to watch a lot of these cases crash and burn.

So I think that the immunity case. And by the way, the immunity case was nothing but logical. I think that if you took it outside the context of politics, if it had been done in an off year, most Americans would just see, even on a Democrat side, would see, hey, look, you know, a President Sitting as president making executive decisions, of course, needs immunity for those decisions. Otherwise, no president is going to make a decision without turning around to his defense attorney. Do you want an unelected defense attorney actually telling the president what to do?

It's almost as bad as having his wife tell him what to do, which is what we got now. Paul Morrow, final minute. Will the Fonnie Willis, Georgia case. Ever see the light of day in a courtroom. No.

This one I'll go out on a limb on. Absolutely not. That case is totally falling apart under its own weight. And in fact, I would opine that you would more likely see Fonnie Willis Yeah. Would be potentially indicted and have to go through a legal process rather than Donald Trump.

In my estimation, she perjured herself at least five times during her under-oath testimony. She talked about having campaign cash in her closet where the politics in Georgia are slightly different. She would have been thrown out ages ago. This comes down to the AG in Georgia who wants to be governor and he wants those votes. I'm sorry to say it.

He's a Republican. But she should already have been dragged into the grand jury on blatant black letter felonies that she admitted under oath. Totally agree. You always bring in Paul Morrow. Great to visit with you.

Anytime, buddy, you take care now. Thank you, sir. We'll be right back. This is the Brian Kilmead Show. Diving deep into today's top stories.

It's Brian Kilmead. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Even when I was running for Senate, and each time I ran, Quite frankly, not a joke. Philadelphia in particular got me across the line.

Yeah. No, I'm not joking. No, I mean it seriously, organizationally and in terms of fundraising, the whole deal. You notice the crutch all the time? I'm not joking.

I'm not joking. Nobody said you're joking, but you were in Philadelphia and they didn't put you over the top. That's why there was just a smattering. I think people were like, uh-oh. It's happening again.

It's happening again. Closing moment. I want to comment about Jack Smith. I'm not a fan. Special Counsel.

His record is a poor one. He was the special counsel that prosecuted. Governor Bob MacDonald. Governor Bob McDonald was railroaded. The Supreme Court, in the harshest terms, reversed.

Jack Smith.

So you can get a conviction. Even when you're wrong. You pick the right jury. They hear your side. They bond with you, you get your conviction.

Nine zero That was reversed. Was terrible. I remember covering it in real time. First Senator Robert Menendez of New Jersey trial. Hung Jury.

The trial with U.S. Senator John Edwards. For the alleged effort to prevent an extramarital affair from becoming public knowledge. Jack Smith smacked down completely on that as well.

So his track record and his bogus prosecution of President Trump is not going to enhance his already horrific resume. Thank you for listening. to the Brian Kilmead Show. The Fox News Rundown. A contrast of perspectives you won't hear anywhere else.

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