Debate tonight: Biden, Trump camps trade final barbs before showdown

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmee. Hi, boy. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. Donald Trump will be there in Atlanta for the big debate. He's going to leave at 5:30 today Eastern Time. It looks like President Biden will leave a little bit earlier from Camp David, and then we'll get it on tonight on CNN. It's going to be simulcast also on Fox on the big debate.

We're going to be subjected to Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, very talented, but very biased. They're very anti-Trump. I'll play some of the cuts. It worries me. I think it's got the camp somewhat concerned.

But they did say anytime, anywhere. And when Joe Biden said, how about June and September? How about not Fox? How about CNN? I think ABC.

I don't know what the other one was. And. These are the roles. For the most part, the only thing the Trump camp got was, we're not going to sit, we're going to stand. And it's got to be for 90 minutes.

There's going to be two breaks. In that time, they cannot meet with any of their coaches, their advisors, anybody. They cannot bring out notes, but they can make notes in real time. Michael Wiley is going to be with us shortly. He's co-chair of the RNC.

But before we do that, let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. We know throughout the years that first debates can change things. You think about 1980, right? You go into that debate, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, dead heat.

Reagan wins that debate. All of a sudden jumps up high in the polls. And in this particular year, we're dealing with the closest race heading into a first debate on record in which there are doubts about both candidates. That is Harry E. Ten weighing in, doing his analysis on 2024.

The latest polls show Trump is in command, but challenges loom beyond the debate. Is he ready to tackle that? I'm talking about July 11th with the sentencing and, of course, the RNC and in between, naming a vice president. Number two. The numbers have dropped significantly since that executive order went into effect in early June.

But the big question, which I assume the Trump campaign is going to hit him with, is why did you wait over three years to do this executive order? The broken border, a tone-deaf HHS secretary, talks of success of the border. Seriously, in reality, the state of Biden's biggest failure is the border. And we bury another victim today because of the broken border. Another illegal immigrant strikes.

We discuss the reality of this disaster. Number one. For Biden, it's not misgivings necessarily about his character. It's misgivings about his age, whether he's up to the job. And for Trump, it's misgivings about, dear God, are we going to go back to four more years of the kind of chaos and him being in our headspace again?

Can I handle that? Or is it going to be four more years of him tweeting like an escape monkey from a cocaine study? That's Jonah Goldberg. It doesn't seem to be a Biden fan, excuse me, a Trump fan. Debate day has arrived.

The goal for Biden is to get under Trump's skin. The goal for Trump is to highlight Biden's record. We debate the debate coming up now. First, the goals from the Republican perspective. Michael Watley joins us now.

Michael, welcome back. It's good to be on with you, sir. This is the first time you're going into a debate that I can remember. All the Hillary Clinton debates, all the 2020 debates, two of them. And now, you guys are up.

Quinnipeak Pole has you up four. The Harris Pole has you up four. Battleground States has you up everywhere except for a dead heat in Wisconsin. And your thoughts about where you handle it. I mean, we know in sports, when you're up, you play differently than when you're down.

Yeah, look, this is an opportunity for the President to talk about the four years of America under his watch versus the four years that we have experienced with Joe Biden and talk about where was the border. The border was the most secure border we've ever had. Inflation was completely in check. Russia was in check. Iran was in check.

we had the world was a much safer place and the economy was much stronger pre COVID and was coming back post COVID versus where we are today. And these are real things, and we're ready and excited about the opportunity to watch Joe Biden try to defend his record of failure and weakness across every stage.

So, the Biden campaign put out some pre-debate facts. They say important that Trump will lie. He's going to tell you crime is way up. They don't report their crime properly anymore. You can't properly have heard Crooked Joe is going to cite in statistics and no longer inside data.

He's going to say this is all false, that crime is down significantly, murder rate is down to a 50-year low, and violent crime is down 13%. What's your reaction? Look, our reaction is what do the American people think? Because you are absolutely not going to be able to tell the American people that they are making more money than they were four years ago, because they're not. You're not going to be able to tell them that the border is more secure than it was, because it's not.

You're not going to be able to tell them that gasoline prices aren't 55% higher. Grocery prices aren't 20% higher. It costs twice as much to buy a home today than it did four years ago. Nobody is going to believe any of these statistics that Biden campaign is putting out there trying to say that we have a better economic situation than we did four years ago because we don't.

So, I want you to hear what Chuck Todd is analysis.

Sorry if I'm wrong, Michael, but you guys basically accepted all the terms given to you, right? Yes, look, the President was very clear. Anywhere, anytime, any platform, we were going to say yes to a debate because it is so important for us to be able to stand on the stage for ninety minutes with Joe Biden and talk about the record, talk about the successes, talk about the strength Of the United States under President Trump and compare it to the weakness that we're seeing under this.

So, yeah, you know, we said yes, and we meant it. And every time the President has an opportunity to talk directly to the American people, he's going to take it and he's going to be able to communicate better to the American people this way than he would, you know, than Joe Biden ever will be able to.

So, for a couple of things, you're going to be going to kill the mics in between questions.

So, they're going to have two minutes for the candidate to answer the question, and then one minute to rebut, and then another minute to rebut the rebuttal. And it's up to the Moderators to chime in afterwards and decide if that needs to be expanded upon. I know that's what worries me as a viewer. Here is Chuck Todd. I was surprised by his analysis, Cut Five.

They so want to have a different experience than the last debate they had with him or the first debate from the last cycle. And ironically, it's the single best debate Biden had, right? Because Trump's behavior really sort of almost cemented Biden's lead by that point, and it may have done Trump in at that point. And now here's the Biden campaign trying to come up with a set of rules to make sure Trump seems more presentable. I have to say, it's a real, when you sort of look at their motivation here and given the experience they had four years ago, it's a head scratcher to me that they went so out of their way to try to create an environment that will make Trump seem more presidential.

It does in a way, doesn't it? It does. And I think that what you've got to say is the press. Is not going to be fair to President Trump. The press has never been fair to President Trump, and that's okay.

He's going to use his 45 minutes in this debate to put out his vision for America. What he's going to do to fix the problems that Joe Biden has unleashed on the US and on the world. And so we're excited that he's going to get this opportunity to communicate directly with the American people. And you can talk about the different formats and you can talk about all this stuff. We this is not about whether Joe Biden can stand up for ninety minutes straight.

This is about what is he going to say. And he is going to say that his economic platform is great when it's clearly not. He's going to say that his vision for America and the world is great when it's clearly not.

So I welcome the opportunity to watch him try and defend his record. And I really welcome the opportunity for President Trump. to get forty five minutes on that stage to communicate directly with the American people about what he's going to do to set this nation on a better path.

So there is a huge billboard in Atlanta to greet the president and say, welcome Donald Trump convicted criminal, just to paraphrase, and then have his mug shot there. What does that do to your campaign? Look, over the course of that trial up in New York, President Trump raised one million dollars a day every day from small donors across the country who were outraged at this sham trial. He went up in the polls during the course of this trial. After the verdict was announced, we raised over fifty million dollars in twenty-four hours.

Look, the American people know that this is a ridiculous set of trials that he is facing, that President Biden and his allies have weaponized the judiciary to go after the President and his allies all across the country. They've done civil courts, they've done criminal courts, and it is absolutely coordinated. And the fact is, the American people see it and they don't like it.

So all you're doing is highlighting a weakness. You know, it was the Biden plan to take him off the ballot. When they couldn't do that, it was to take him off the campaign trail and try and bloody him up. And all he's done since they started this is outrageous the Democrats and go up in the polls.

So a couple of things I want to share with you. First off, Maggie Haberman, who fancies herself a Trump insider, said this, and then I want to tell you, and I want to find out if you think she's close to reality. Cut 10. I think that Trump is more locked down and drilled down on preparing for this debate than his advisors have suggested publicly or than he has suggested publicly. He's been engaging in policy sessions with a wide range of advisers and senators and people he's close to, essentially to refresh his talking points about his administration and the accomplishments he wants to highlight, and then also to figure out how to parry certain attacks.

So would you say she her sources seem correct or not? Look, the president has had a number of conversations with people over the course of the last month. That's how he works. He talks to people all day, every day. He goes out and does roundtables.

He goes out and does the political campaigns. He does press interviews. And he is constantly talking to people all the time.

So, yeah, I mean, that's really the way that it is. And I will say this. He is, as she said, focused, and he's very relentlessly focused on making sure that he takes advantage of the opportunity to talk about Joe Biden's record. To talk about his record. And we're doing that in every avenue possible right now because there's never been a bigger spread between two candidates going into an election cycle.

And there has not been an instance where you've got two actual people with two actual records that we can compare and contrast. A couple of things. And we're talking with Michael Wadley. He's co-chair of the RNC. Michael, I heard that you're, and obviously you could spin this answer, but you could also, with all the money you have right now, you're basically equal with President Biden.

However, I hear that their infrastructure in Battleground States is better, especially Pennsylvania. Would you say that's an area you have to build up?

Well, I'd say it's an area we are building up. I think we're going to absolutely have the resources we need to communicate our message to the voters. And we feel very comfortable about our grassroots operations, about making sure that we have everything that's going to be in play. Look, if President Biden wants to open up 150 offices in Pennsylvania, knock yourself out. This is an election that's going to come down to direct communication with voters.

It's going to be about those five-minute conversations, particularly with undecided voters, and make sure that they are aware of how they can vote, where they can vote, when they can vote, and that it is absolutely incumbent for us to make America great again. You got to vote for President Trump. We are going to have all of the resources that we need. We've already seen that we've closed the financial gap with President Biden over the course of just the last three months. And so, no, we feel very comfortable about where we are in terms of our ground game and our grassroots and those ultra-critical direct conversations with voters.

How concerned are you about july eleventh. Look, I mean, that is I am an attorney, but I'm not the President's attorney, so I will always leave the legal discussions up to him and his team. But what I will say is this, we fully expect that we're going to have the President in Milwaukee to accept his nomination on the 18th of July. We are very excited about being in Milwaukee and being able to roll his vision for the next four years out to the entire country and, frankly, the entire world. We're expecting 50,000 delegates, guests and media are going to be in the five-serve arena every single night for four straight nights, and it's going to be a tremendous show.

This is a. We'll be there in Milwaukee to cover it all. I want you to hear a little bit about what you're up against with these moderators, especially Dana Bash and. Uh and you have uh And you have Jake Tapper, who basically have shown disdain for the former president, cut one. There's a lot for President Biden to tout.

Americans don't seem to be giving him the credit. Why is that and what does he have to do to turn that around? He certainly met the moment they wanted him to be a fighter. and boy fight did he. deliver.

Trump's claim about Biden orchestrating the trial is baseless. Allegations with absolutely no evidence that he was making against President Biden that he is behind all of the prosecutions. There's no evidence that Joe Biden was involved. There's no evidence. Absolutely no evidence that Biden himself was involved.

Donald Trump is now the presumptive Republican nominee for president. U.S. intelligence agencies are reportedly preparing to share classified briefings with him. Should Donald Trump receive intelligence briefings?

So these are the questions. That's the attitude. That's the spin for Joe Biden. And what they were referring to is the number of cases, the law affair against President Trump and President Trump thinking the White House had a role in it. I just wanted your reaction to what they've been doing in real time.

So, two thoughts, right? First off, the press is not going to be fair to President Trump. The press has never been fair to President Trump, and you know what? That's okay. because he is a candidate who has absolutely the ability to communicate directly with the American voters and with the American people.

And he can communicate through the press, around the press, over the press. I mean, this is a guy who could walk out of a courtroom in New York, around the corner to a bodega, have an impromptu press conference and drive an entire news cycle for 48 hours. This is a guy who could go to the Bronx and have a rally that is talked about the week before, while they're doing the rally and a week after. It was the number one story on every single platform.

So he's going to get his message out. And I think the debate's going to be a fantastic opportunity in front of an absolutely huge audience for it. The second thing that I will say, CNN has an opportunity here. to be fair and be impartial. We really hope that they're going to take advantage of it.

And if they don't, I think it would be an absolute disgrace, and I think it would be a disservice to the American people as they're going into this election cycle.

So I hope that Dana and Jake are able to rise above their obvious disdain for the president and do their jobs and be professionals. I know, but they won't be able to go to these cocktail parties if they do that. Michael Watley, you've done so far. Your resume looks better and better every day. You're now in a dead heat with money raised with the DNC, which not many people thought was possible.

Thanks so much, Michael. Best of luck. Yes, sir. Take care. All right.

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His immigration policy was a mistake, right? I get the theory of the extreme left. We're a land of immigrants, let everyone come in, we all came as immigrants. I get it. But how you do it makes all the difference in the world, right?

And to just open the borders with no plan, you don't know where they go, you don't know who's going to pay for them. They wind up in cities all across the country. New York has a couple of hundred thousand in hotels, costing New York City a fortune, no jobs, no training, no help assimilating into society.

So who did you even help? I know. I have to play it because it's surreal. Governor Cuomo, Saying things that we've been saying all along. that you don't read the bottom of the Statue of Liberty and let everybody in.

And that's not the way everybody came. Yeah, we had a different system back then, but there was a system. Yeah, that people sneak in, not like this, not intentionally. When your vice president was told you're in charge of the border, she refused to do it and said, I'm going to go to the root causes. Had two Zoom meetings and maybe one in-person meeting where she said, I have never really been to the border, but I haven't been to Europe either.

It was a disaster, and she's been a disaster. And now you have Governor Cuomo dying for a comeback, probably has a shot at being mayor if this Governor Adams, excuse me, Mayor Adams continues to have the problems. And he does look complicated. The FBI took his phone. They're looking at links to China, trips to Turkey.

It looks brutal. And if that opens up, Republicans have no shot. It doesn't seem in New York, Mayor Cuomo, Governor Cuomo could become Mayor Cuomo. When making statements like that, it shows that he's trying to do what his brother's doing. And that sounds logical after being illogical for this time in office and when his brother had a job at CNN.

It's crazy. And it even gets a little bit better from there. Because He talks about Indicting President Trump. and how dumb it was. to go after President Trump On something that was from years ago, that was a misdemeanor that they bootstrapped to be a felony, that they indicted him on 34 counts.

costing the city millions of dollars in security and inconvenience. And then convicting the president. And then he turns around and gets $140 million. He flat out said. He flat out said he wouldn't have done it.

Listen. That case, the Attorney General's case in New York, frankly, should have never been brought. And if his name was not Donald Trump, and if he wasn't running for president from the former AG in New York, I'm telling you, that case would have never been brought. And that's what is offensive to people. And it should be.

Because if there's anything left, it's belief in the justice system. Hmm. Can you believe this? And Bill Maher is hosting Liberals Liberal. Obviously doesn't uh want Trump to win.

Trump sued him already. And he just sits there nodding along. And he just told the Aspen Institute yesterday, Bill Maher did, that he thinks Trump's is likely to win. And guess who else thinks he's likely to win? And by the way, just this is Cuomo.

You would think that if he started a lot of these conversations with I look back at my real years in office, even as Attorney General, and I was arrogant, I think I could have done a lot better, been more of a unifier. Maybe I felt who I was and thought I was impervious. I would feel a lot better about it. I feel as though I don't know if he means what he says. But what he says has impact.

No one else is picking it up because now they want to use the term disgrace, but guess who looks up to Cuomo? Joe Biden. Loved him. Favorite governor. Wanted to meet him.

Couldn't believe it. Wanted to meet him, wanted to find out what he was doing in New York.

Now New York basically Kathy Hochle. The accidental governor only won by six points. Trump's only down by nine points in New York because of policies like his. By the weak on crime policies, by the bail reform that he put together, the congestion pricing that was almost put together, and the hard the knucklehead way in which they handled COVID. But I just get hope.

If he just started it with I first off, I've come around to this. Being out of office, I realize some of the things I did just don't make any sense. I was trying to be politically correct, and it's blown up. And I like to think I can fix it now. If you had an idea, it doesn't work, you fix it.

Well, you thought even if it's tax cuts, I had tax cuts. I thought the revenue would come up. They didn't. We got to find a way to get revenue up. We have a we're owing another trillion dollars every three months.

It can't last with interest rates this high. I got to make a change. All right. And people don't like you on the right, okay, don't like you on the left, okay, but you know, I got to govern. I mean, George H.W.

Bush thought that too. He lost the reelection. He said the economy is going to turn around, just not yet. And Bill Clinton came in and was the one who was going to fix it.

Well, he benefited from Bush 41's policies, but Bush 41 did what was necessary for the country. And what he did is enter into a compromise to raise taxes, which was a bad move, even economically, but he did it for a few other things to get something in return, but they hung it over his neck and it cost him the bigger story. And tonight, though, will be I mean number one, the They just have to admit that trying him in New York was a joke. The case was crap. The 34 indictments were ridiculous.

It's given him $140 million. But I worry about July 11th when he's sentenced by this stooge, which is this judge who seems to be a terrible person who just loves the camera, had a photo shoot before the election, and wants to be famous. And by the way, he lifted the gag order on everyone except for the judge's family. Why? Because the judge's daughter is a high-flying consultant for people like Adam Schiff and Dan Goldman and Republican and Democrats going against Republicans in key states.

And word is, she had a website that was very anti-Trump to begin with, but Trump can't bring that up. But he has a degree of the gag order lifted, so we'll see.

So that's what I think President should quote the former President should quote from him. And also, I know directly that President, former President Trump appreciated what Governor Cuomo said. He said, you know, maybe I'm going to give him a call. Because it means a lot to have a Democratic governor, even though he's disgraced because of the way he acted in public with people that he worked with. And I thought he was terrible in COVID.

I've said that a million times. He's now out of office and able to speak more candidly. Let's hope if he could just start it with, I kind of screwed up. But the bigger story is this: they think they have a new way to spin immigration tonight. And what they're going to say is, I was forced to do an executive order because the bipartisan legislation was blown up by the former president.

And by the way, the illegal is coming across is down 40%. Here's a handome rhaeorcus. Talking about this cut nineteen. Three weeks ago. in the face of congressional inaction.

President Biden used his executive authority and suspended the entry of non-citizens across the southern border. We are imposing stricter consequences for those who cross the border without authorization. Our team did an exceptional job quickly implementing this new policy, and we are already seeing the results. And they say it's been down by 40% until 2,500 are crossing. Number one, if this in fact works, let's say all this stuff works and the numbers are correct.

Let's just say hypothetically it's correct. Do you know what they're saying? You're saying that Joe Biden lied when he said there's nothing I can do at the border, you need legislation to fix it. Number two, he's by the fact that he's going to trumpet that he Use these executive orders means he could have used it three and a half years earlier, which means 7.6 million people here illegally would not have crossed, most of which would not have crossed, because he would have taken action.

Now, what Donald Trump's going to be ready to do is name all the things that President Biden has undone. From the first country you step into, you have to apply, to the remain in Mexico, to the taking away of aid from Central and South American countries, to forbidding people from coming in, period, under Title 42 under amnesty. And also, having lost track of over 60,000 children in our country, you're worried about child separation policies when you bring your kid here illegally. A lot of them were not their kids. And that's what President Trump, excuse me, President Biden's gonna bring up.

Like President Biden Trump should just come right back and go, Really?

Well, I could tell you exactly who those kids are. Can you tell me where the eighty seven thousand unaccompanied minors are today? Because your HHS Uh committee, your HSS department has lost them. You lost children. Who crossed over.

You defunded ICE. You stop building the wall.

Now Majorca is going to say we solved the problem because we had to. Please. Cut 23. Here's more from Cuomo. You have the person in your old job, the governor of New York, a Democrat, saying, Don't come here.

Those are her exact words. Don't come here. And the mayor of New York saying, this is going to ruin our city. I mean, if I didn't know who was talking, I would have thought they would be Republicans. But they didn't stop them, Bill.

They could have stopped them. The governor was saying she didn't want them outside of New York City. But the mayor could have said no. The governor could have said no. Many mayors and governors said no.

But New York was more of the ideological left. All are welcome. And now we're finding out. 200,000 people later. You needed a plan.

Amazing, right? 1-866-408-7669. I'll get to your emails in a moment.

So, we're talking about the debate. We're talking about what's happening at the border. We're talking about Democrats who realize how detrimental this is to their reelection. I hope New Jersey also thinks about that when they look for a new senator to replace Menendez and when they look for a new governor because they also let a ton in of those illegal aliens. And that state is embarrassing itself with its senatorial candidates, this idiot Menendez, who they put back.

He's corrupt as the day is long. And please don't tell me you think Governor Murphy is a presidential candidate. All right, so a big diet tonight. We have a lot to discuss. Don't move.

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And some AI companies are now offering songs made by AI. Who? wants this. Who wants this? I got AI to create a brand new song for me.

Why? There's no shortage of music. Did you finish Spotify? I mean,. Oh, but I can make a brand new Taylor Swift song.

She drops a double album every two weeks. We don't need it.

So that is uh AI that's from the Daily Show? Yeah, that was from the Daily Show, and how companies are getting sued because they were using music. to like sort of um educate their AI. I mean that's what these uh that's what these actors uh really went on strike for. That's what these musicians were crazy for.

Because what if you create music without them? Remember this happened like two years ago?

So they created some song and it wasn't the It became a top with top song. AI created a song, became a top. Yes, it was. Yeah. It was Drake?

Yeah, Drake and the weekend song. It got popular quick. But I mean, the point of the joke there was: do we really need more music? I mean, there's so much music to begin with. There's a lot of great music out there.

Have you really listened to all of it? Right, and now get this. They're doing an AI to conjure up Al Michaels, Hall of Fame Olympics host Al Michaels, now 79. He kind of lost his job at Amazon this year. They said he lost his step.

I didn't really hear it. But this he'll return as an AI voice for the summer games. Generative AI and AI voice synthesis technology will offer online fans a personalized compilation of feature clips, your daily Olympic recap on Peacock. The bot was trained using his past appearances on NBC and matches his signature expertise and elocation. Quote, when I was approached about this, Michael said I was skeptical, but obviously curious.

Then I saw a demonstration detailing what they had in mind. I said, I'm in, which means he doesn't have to do anything, correct? He doesn't have to do anything. Oh, correct. Yeah, they educated AI on his voice, on his analysis, probably, which is why he's fine with it.

So he told Vanity Fair the result was astonishing. It was amazing. Quote, it was a little bit frightening. It was not only close, it was almost 2% off-perfect. Michaels made the iconic call in 1980.

Remember when he said that when the men's hockey team upset the USSR and the Lake Place? He said, Do you believe in miracles? Yes.

So they built off all the examples they have of him today and yesterday he's been on the air. I mean, he's been doing this for 50 years.

So they got everything. He replaced, I think he replaced Howard Cosell as the main play-by-play guy or the main person in all the booth on everything.

So I think it's amazing. I don't know if I would sign off on it.

However, he's 79 years old. He doesn't want to go to the Olympics. He has to sit in France without air conditioning. They think it's a good idea to save the ozone, not give the athletes air conditioning. I imagine the sportscasters too, and those people staying in five-star hotels.

So you get to stay home, they use your voice, and you're 50 years of work. There's really no downside, except for the precedent.

Some people might be saying out, don't say yes to this because it's going to hurt other sportscasters down the line. I'll pay you less to be AI you. Yeah, but I mean, you have to assume then that AI is getting educated in the proper way. Like, this AI, Brian, is it accurate? Another thing, I hate soccer.

Otherwise known as metric football, it's a dumb sport that nobody should ever play.

So That sounds good.

So so would you sign off? Yes.

Eric, you did that?

So you just plugged it into You plugged into a synthesizer? A synthesizer? Yeah, I trained it on about 20 minutes of your voice, and that's what it spat out.

So, what did it ask for? You just gave me 20 minutes of the show? Yeah, I gave it twenty minutes of view in various conversations, different tones of voice, different moods, and then I typed in what I wanted it to say, and that's what it gave me. Did it ask you my attitude towards it? No, no, it just it literally will say whatever it's text-to-speech.

So after it has a v a voice profile for you. It'll say whatever I tell it to.

So do I even need a fill-in? Oh, that would be very fun if we got to have AI Brian for three hours and we got to program what it says. We would just have to write the whole show. But yeah, we could in theory. But I mean, but no, but.

Al Michaels is going to think, isn't he?

Well, I mean AI Al Michaels has to think, you know, Finland beats Scotland in the in field hockey or something. Yes, AI Al Michaels and AI Brian Kilmead are two different things because they're educating the AI and how he did analysis on those games. This was just us telling it what to say in your voice.

Okay. Let me go through a few of the questions, some of the emails that I got. Here you go. This is from Richard. Richard says: Hey, Brian, previously you have appeared to be surprised that older voters are generally not Trump supporters.

The reason is that Democrats longtime gaslighting of older voters about the Republicans planning to cut their Social Security and Medicare payments. It's not true, but it has some effect. Man, I thought Trump's done an effective job pushing back saying. I'm not going to touch Social Security, which by the way. Nikki Haley didn't.

Nikki Haley came out and said, we have to touch Social Security. He's running out of money. But Trump said, that's a third rail. We're not going to do that. I know how people are going to take that.

So once he gets a job, he's got to do Social Security. But they've done really you know, Paul Ryan being thrown off the side of a mountain. But I mean Also, like Nikki Haley said it too, like, it's you need to touch it. You're not touching it any time in the near future. It's for people.

that are in their twenties and thirties now, you adjust it there. But people need to be educated on the whole issue versus just a soundbite. Diane says this. How do we know whether Joe Biden will have an earpiece that will enable someone, say Barack Obama, from dictating answers to the questions he has asked? This way it may sound far-fetched, but for the Democratic Party, it is totally possible.

Now Eric, you do audio for a living. Do you think it's possible to put one of those? Because you can't really see your healing hearing aids at all on people.

Some of them are pretty low profile, yes, but there's going to be tons of angles of him there. S I mean, they're not invisible.

So if he's wearing something, someone will spot it. Number one, if it is spotted, it's over. He's out. But they're not going to do that. I mean, everyone does have a general baseline of ethics.

I know everyone thinks they don't. But if that would be such a scandal. They'll it's it's not really in the cards. Uh we'll see. Uh a couple of things.

How do we uh a lot of people worried about the year p Ah, Ryan says this. Oh, we have a lot of people going Saturday. A lot of people write me directly. I guess we ought to make it clear when the meet and greet is. They should be sending out an email.

So you're talking about Saturday or live show in Indianapolis.

So there's still a few tickets left to go get them. But there are VIP opportunities available. That will start at 5 p.m. I was told they're going to be sending out an email to the people who bought the VIPs.

Okay, here's this one. Janet writes this: Hey, Brian, you're an idiot supporting a corrupt politician who has been found guilty 34 times. You've been found guilty of all this stuff. This is not someone who should be president. A lot of that stuff, Janet, is no, would never see the light of day for anybody else.

And number two, did a lot of really good things. He's never said he was perfect, but the attacks on him made him crazy from the impeachment to the Russia hoax on down. Let's see without that. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian.

Kill mead. Everyone, excited. Excited so much because in hours away, we're going to get through. I think it's going to be the only debate. But a lot at stake.

We never had one in June before, never had a rematch before, never had two former presidents before in the modern age going at it. Two track records to go against instead of one hypothetical and one realistically based. And we got two presidents that many people are trying to paint as unhinged, one voluntarily, one genetically. And we'll see where that goes. This hour going to talk to well, we've got a big arrow coming to you.

We'll do a simulcast with Varney and Company. We've got an interview with Mike Huckabee, the governor, who's real tight with the former president of the United States, and Ben Shapiro, one of the most impactful conservative voices in the world today. He's the Daily Wire co-founder, host of the Ben Shapiro show, number one New York Times bestseller, deep thinker who talks quick and thinks quick. In fact, let's bring him on right now. Hey, so, Ben.

Mm-hmm. Are you pumped up for this? Does it feel to you almost like the World Series Game 7, Super Bowl? A lot of speculation. A lot of people think they know what's going to happen.

Are you pumped up for this? I'm pretty pumped mainly because of the importance of the debate. I don't think this is going to be a sterling debate in terms of. People just citing facts and dazzling your mind, thrilling at witticisms. I don't think that's what this is about.

But obviously, this is going to be the most impactful debate of my lifetime for sure, because right now, the onus is on the incumbent president of the United States to actually show really, really well. I think the burden of proof right now is on Biden. There are a couple of polls that have come out in the last 24 hours. Both of them, one from Connipiac, one from the New York Times, showing Biden trailing Trump by four points nationally, which is a blowout number for Donald Trump. Right now, Nate Silver is suggesting that there's about a 66% shot that Trump is winning this race.

That means that Joe Biden has to do something to change. Yeah. a weird sort of situation because He has to, all he basically has to do is just stand there and be normal. If Donald Trump stands there and is normal, and then points out when Joe Biden slips up, points out when Joe Biden starts to mumble, when Joe Biden comes to the end of a phrase and goes, Well, anyway, if he points that out, that's a disaster area. For Joe Biden.

So, this is actually setting up to be a fairly nice debate for Donald Trump in terms of the presets, despite the fact that it was Biden who issued the challenge. It was Biden who preset the rules with CNN. It was Biden who basically set the date. And Biden had basically all options on the table for him. And somehow he is still coming in, the underdog, in a debate where he's the incumbent president of the United States.

So, you know, the President Snoffer is negotiating, and he's very pleased by that. He wrote books about it. Not many people say that he's bad at it because he's good at it. But when it came to this, he said yes. The only thing I think he got out of it was he got a stand, and I think it was CNN that pushed that for 90 minutes.

So I asked the Trump camp this. I said, Well, why did you say yes? He said, Well, because they never thought we would. And if you look at them being salted away for 10 days drilling Joe Biden, that's indication that our gut was right. That if we said anytime, anywhere, and then did any type of request publicly, they'd say, see, I told you, he didn't mean it.

Instead, they said yes. And next thing you know, Joe Biden's scrambling in June to know the issues he's already been deciding on theoretically for the last three and a half years. It's illogical, Ben, that he would need this much time to prepare for a debate. It is wild, but it is a reflection of the fact that he cannot win this debate on policy. That is the biggest thing that Trump has going for him.

On virtually every policy, Donald Trump has a more popular position than Joe Biden. That includes even positions that Joe Biden thought were going to be leading. You know, for him in this race.

So for example, Joe Biden clearly has been running this race on the basis of the idea that he is going to be the great defender of democracy and Donald Trump because of January 6th and because of election denialism and all this kind of stuff. That means that the American public are just going to look at Trump and say, no way. And now there is polling data out from the New York Times demonstrating, actually, that the majority, the plurality at least, of voters in six swing states right now, six battleground states, believe that Donald Trump is less of a threat to democracy and more of a defender of democracy than Joe Biden. When you're losing on that issue in your Biden, what exactly do you have left in the cupboard? You don't have your durability.

You don't have personality because people think right now that he's either failing mentally or that he's just volatile and angry all the time. You certainly learn a foreign policy where you've set the entire world on fire. You don't have domestic policy where Americans hate the direction of the economy. They don't like the border and they don't like his social policy.

So what exactly are you going to stand on? It seems like this entire campaign from Joe Biden, he's trying to run a repeat of 2020 when the idea was Donald Trump is too volatile and crazy to be president of the United States. The problem is we've now seen three and a half years of Joe Biden. Biden being president. And things got crazier.

They got more chaotic. He came into office pledging to be a moderate who's going to restore normalcy. And instead, what you got from Joe Biden was a wild, radical, left-wing Bernie Sanders-esque administration plus senility. That is a bad combo. And so the question for him over the last 10 days is: how exactly do you somehow spin that into an attack on Trump?

And there was a clip that was going around of one of Biden's campaign co-chairs talking about the real problem here is the American people have amnesia. Hey, if you are a campaign co-chair and you're accusing the American people of hamming amnesia, You're losing. It's as simple as that. It's funny.

So my problem is the moderators. Because I do watch other channels. I know you do too. You're running a network, you do your own appearances, you got your live shows, but you have to find out what everyone's thinking, and your show's better when we can hear other sides. I think we both agree on that.

And I watch Jake Tapper. I'm not saying they're not talented, but they are all anti-Trump. They treat Trump like he's some nutjob, Alex Jones-like figure that should not even be listened to. Here's an example of what the president's gonna, the former president's gonna be up against. Uh tonight, cut two.

We are waiting. For former President Trump to make his first formal remarks, we're not carrying his remarks live because, frankly, He says a lot of things that are not true and sometimes potentially dangerous. That was the worst debate I have ever seen. In fact, it wasn't even a debate. It was a disgrace, primarily because of President Trump lying, maliciously attacking the son.

of the vice president. The president does not Think he's going to win this election. and he wants to bring the rest of us down with him.

Okay, so what are your chances of actually approaching this with short questions, letting the candidates talk for their for their two minutes and one minute rebuttals.

So, I actually think that the beginning of the debate is going to be very rough for President Trump. I think that you are going to see Tapper and Bash come out really firing at Trump, particularly on January 6th. But I do think that as the debate progresses, and here's the thing: unlike other debates, I don't think people are tuning out at the 30-minute mark. I think the people are going to stick around for the entire thing because. Who knows when Joe Biden is going to physically collapse?

I mean, right? I mean, this is like watching the Walenda brothers walk across a volcano. You just, you got to watch them walk across the entire volcano. It's not enough to watch them walk across the first third.

So if that's the case, I do think that you're going to see the moderators actually ask some aggressive questions of Biden simply to maintain any sort of journalistic credibility whatsoever. If the whole thing is just an attack on Trump, I'm not sure that that hurts Trump. I think it actually probably in some ways helps him in the same way that the prosecution of Trump has helped Trump in the polls. It makes his base rally around him and it makes it look as though the media have to step in and play great defender for Joe Biden.

So I actually think that the beginning of the debate, here's what I would expect. I would expect the beginning of the debate is going to be all about January 6th and election 2020 and all the rest. And it's Trump's job to say, listen, I know you guys want to ask me about all that sort of stuff, and we disagree on your interpretation of what happened in the election. Here's the reality. I left office in January of 2021.

Since then, every single day, Joe Biden has been president and he is currently losing to me because he is a bad president. This election is not about January 6th, 2021. This election is about November 5th, 2024. If he does that, it's going to be very like he just can't give them oxygen, right? This is going to be the thing that's hard for Trump because Trump's a battler.

He's a fighter. He's a counterpuncher. He's going to want to go directly at the neck of the moderators if they say things that he thinks are wrong about January 6th and election 2020. But the more time the American public think about 2020, the less time they're thinking about 2024. And so it's really Trump's job to sort of jujitsu all of that back into a discussion of Joe Biden.

And I do think that as the debate progresses, I would be surprised if Biden gets zero difficult questions from the moderators.

So Ben, I want to talk about something in the last four minutes that we have about what's happening over in Israel.

So Benjamin Netanyahu is the person that Democrats love to hate, even though Galant pretty much has the same policy and most of the Israelis agree with his prosecution of the war against Hamas. And everybody wants the hostages back, but at what cost? And now it looks as though war with Hezbollah is inevitable. How would you characterize the Biden administration's support for Israel? Originally, somewhat tepid, and now the daylight that they've created with Israel has radically increased the chances of serious war on Israel's northern border.

Ironically, Joe Biden's inability to see moral clarity here in an attempt to forestall war has made war significantly more likely. Imagine if Biden had said early on in the war to the Israelis: listen, go fast, go hard, win the war, defeat Hamas, build new infrastructure there, build new educational systems that get rid of the indoctrination against Jews. And this war had been over by February, which was certainly quite possible because Israel was on the borders of Rafah in February. Hezbollah would have backed off. Instead, what's happened is because this war has dragged on, thanks to the slow walking of aid by the Americans and Joe Biden every single day putting pressure on Israel to make concessions to terrorists.

Hezbollah believes that they can continually up the ante in southern Lebanon and get some sort of sweet deal from the Biden administration or at least pressure on the Israelis. And that's making the war significantly more likely in the north. Right now, there are 100,000 Israeli citizens who are not living in the north of Israel. They're not living in their homes. A third of the housing stock in that area apparently has been damaged or destroyed by Hezbollah rockets.

No country worth its salt can ask its own citizens not to live in their homes in their sovereign territory this way. And so, again, like the targeting of Netanyahu by the media, by the Biden administration, by Chuck Schumer, is totally ridiculous. There is well over 70% support in Israel for finishing the war against Hamas. There is well over 70% support in Israel for doing everything necessary to get back the hostages. And this idea that there's like a wide gap in Israeli public opinion.

It's just bizarre. I mean, I was just there for two weeks and it's just not true.

So the future of, I know, you were just there for two weeks?

So and you believe the people are supporting Netanyahu or the way he's prosecuting the war? The people don't support any of the politicians because they believe the entire political class is responsible for October 7th, but they are united themselves in the idea that the war has to be prosecuted to its finish, that there will be no sort of political agreement that allows Hamas to remain in place, and that the possibility of a quote-unquote two-state solution for the group of people who like October 7th, the polling data suggests that 75% of Palestinians like October 7th, that is not the preconditions for some sort of Palestinian state. That would be an immediate terror state in the midst of Israel's attempts to survive. APAC, which is a pro-Israeli group here in the U.S., put a lot of money into Jamal Bowman losing the next primary election, and he lost. And then AOC is blaming APAC for this.

What do you think about the fact that he lost in the primary, number one, and that the squad seems to be uh reviled by their presence in elections. What was their role in it, and how important was it for these doubters about the October 7th massacre to be ousted?

So, I mean, there are a bunch of lessons from Jamal Bowman losing. The first is: don't be a terribly stupid congressperson who stands for Hamas in a district that is 9% Jewish. That's like the first rule here. Jamal Bowman was losing by 17 points to George Latimer in the polls before AIPAC spent a dollar in that district. And then he proceeded to lose by 17 points in that district.

So APAC saw a vulnerability. With Jamal Bowman, and they went for it. You'll notice that AOC is still sitting in Congress. She won her primary pretty handily, despite the fact that she's radically anti-Israel summer, Lee in Pennsylvania. Same sort of thing.

If you don't represent your constituents, well, it turns out your constituents get very, very angry at you. And that's exactly what happened with Jewish constituents in New York's 16th district. The same thing could easily happen to Corey Bush over in Missouri's 2nd District. This has much less to do with APAC and much more to do with the constituents who don't like the person who is representing them as a congressperson. It's very reminiscent of when the left says things like the NRA is responsible for constituents not liking gun control policies.

No, that is just an interest group that is representing constituent views. Lastly, who do you think the best pick for him For vice president as a running mate to be vice president, what helps him the most? What selection do you think, Ben? You know, I think somebody who, again, projects. Calm, somebody who projects a sense of durability.

I think Senator Tom Cotton from Arkansas would be an excellent pick. I think that Doug Bergum would be just fine from North Dakota. The entire question for Donald Trump is: can he project an aura of sort of calm and decency and moderation at this point? All Americans want, and all we've wanted, I think, for 10 years since the Obama administration is: can we have some semblance of normal here? That'd be like amazing.

And so, anything that projects a sense of normalcy for the Trump campaign means something beneficial. He can really only hurt himself with the VP pick, I think. if he picks somebody who's sort of out of the box and has policies that don't mirror a more moderate version of the MAGA agenda, I think. Yeah, I think you're right. I think also I think people just want common sense back.

We're hearing less about conservative And liberals, I think we're just hearing common sense. And I hope we're at a point where we hear less about the squad and more about that. And I don't think Donald Trump is one eight hundred conservative. He's no cookie cutter conservative anyway, which drove a lot of people nuts. But now I think a lot of other people are more than happy to bring it back.

Ben, thanks so much. Congratulations on all your success. Thanks, Brian. Great to talk to you. You got it.

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HSS secretary. And then Governor Mike Huckabee, after that, don't move. Learning something new every day on the Brian Kill Me Show. Uh The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead.

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Just in time for Joe Biden to shoot it up before the debate on Thursday. And that is Martin Short. Is he filling in for Jimmy Kimmel, who's off this summer?

Alright, that is interesting. Good choice. He's appearing with Steve Martin. And a very depr uh, Steve Martin had a very depressing documentary, by the way. People said it was great.

I thought it was very depressing. Martin Truert was on it, and he kept saying things like: What are we doing? I'm not doing anything. Why am I on it? Like when I we're just eating.

He goes, but they want us to take a bike ride. Let's take a bike ride. They take a bike ride. But I felt like they were both captured in a documentary they didn't want to be in. I didn't get to see it, but I did see their live show, which was very good.

Oh, you did? You liked it? It was great. Yeah, it was like an hour and a half, them just sort of. doing their own thing but then ad living off of each other on I think Monday night, Steve Martin actually popped out with Martin Shore.

There was sort of like a little bit of their show, just basically just ripping each other, riffing on the news. All right, so here's Morton. Here's another one from Martin Shore, Cup 42. Donald Trump says he's close to announcing his running mate and has reportedly narrowed it down to three people. It was four, but OJ died, so...

It's pretty funny. Right. He's not wrong. But I remember Martin Short, I met him. at that Cardinal uh that Cardinal Dolan dinner.

And he walked up to me, he knew where I was. And he basically just asked me in a concerning way, he goes, Is Trump okay? As I guess, do you talk to him? Like, does he seem normal to you? As if I'm abnormal, like to you?

I couldn't quite figure out, but he wasn't trying to be funny. He was concerned. And I go, this is weird. Uh because, you know, I was just waiting to take a picture with Colonel Dolan. And we're in there.

I was in the cocktail area because I was on the dais, because I am the most important Catholic in America, or the second most. And I was in there, and I saw Martin Schord. I'm like, this is the cool thing about being on the dais. Martin Schord's going to be there. He was a comedian.

And he sought me out. Do you try to make m me feel him feel better about Trump. I mean, I could not love this story more though, because I do I adore Martin Short and it just makes him seem like that normal human that's paying attention to things without being overly opinionated and rude. Here's more. 43.

Or should we go to doormat number three? Ohio Senator J.D. Vance, who said he thought Trump was either a cynical like Nixon or America's Hitler. When have you ever said something like that about someone and then Changed your mind. It's kind of he's not wrong.

You know what? I mean, they're gonna roll that out. And they're gonna roll out Rubio stuff too. Rubio makes a little bit more sense because JD Vance was just doing Hillbilly. It looked like he was doing Hillbilly Elegy Press.

And they say, hey, by the way, what do you think of the president? He's like, oh, you know, I think he's terrible and all these things. He goes, I was wrong. But boy, were you wrong. You know, from I don't like him to, he's my best friend.

And now I want to be his VP. Right. And he did say to Ainsley, I'd be very disappointed if I didn't, he goes, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't be disappointed not to get it. True. Little Marko The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. It's a percurium decision, which means everybody, nobody signs on as the majority to this.

Sort of like the whole court signs on to it with one voice. And the ultimate decision was: we took this case before we should have, we're sending it back to the lower court, and we're lifting the stay that had been in place.

Now, what that does essentially is it equates to a win for the Biden administration that said their federal law, their federal regulation supersedes Idaho's near-total ban on abortion. This is about emergency care.

Now, Idaho's law has an exception for the health or the life of the mother, the life of the mother. They spent a lot of time in arguments here talking about, well, what about something short of life and death if a mother is going to have her reproductive organs permanently damaged to affect her fertility, if there's other organ failure or other things happening? And essentially, what the court said is we're not going to get into the merits of that.

So there you go. That is great reporting by Shannon, as Shannon Breen made clear that. It looks like the case was not ready. They say essentially now you can have an emergency room abortion in Idaho. If that's good news for you, good luck with that.

But that is what's dividing this country and giving the Democrats, like it or not, a leg up in a lot of elections and getting them a lot closer than they should be or outright giving it to them. And they say if Florida is going to be close, it's because the six-week ban is really being voted on. the six week drop dead date, so to speak, that Governor DeSantis put out there and changed it from fifteen weeks. With us right now is Governor Mike Huckabee. Governor, you're as pro-life as it gets.

I understand that. I imagine your daughter is too. But fifty six percent of the country wants Roe v. Wade back. What do you do as a politician?

I think most people don't understand what Roe v. Wade was. And when they say they want it back, I don't think they fully appreciate what they're asking for. Roe v. Wade took it out of the state's hands and put it in the federal hands.

When it was repealed by the Supreme Court, it simply said this is a matter that the states will decide.

So the question is, do you believe there should be any restriction on abortion? and overwhelmingly, the American people believe there should be. But the way the media and the Democrats Have framed this issue. They make it as if. That Roe v.

Wade outlawed abortion. It did not. In some states, Brian, there are more abortions happening than ever happened before. because the state law is very liberal. in other states, and I'm happy to say, like mine, It virtually ended abortion.

Because the people of our state believe that abortion is the taking of an innocent human life. And we believe that every life has value and worth, that there's no such thing as a disposable human being, an expendable human being, a worthless human being. which is essentially what abortion says, is that here is a human life that just isn't worth much. and therefore, we have the right to end it. We need to get back to talking about the essence of the issue rather than the nuances.

And that's what's being missed by politicians on the Republican side. And what we need to do is to make the Democrats defend their radical view, which is any abortion, any time At any point of the pregnancy for any reason and under any circumstances. And that is something that is overwhelmingly rejected by the American people. Yeah, I know that it's called women's health now.

So Yeah, and the dumbest thing of all, Brian, they call it reproductive health. There's nothing reproductive about an abortion. In fact, This is what's utterly insane about the terminology. Reproduction is ended when an abortion happens. It's the destruction of reproduction when you have an abortion.

So saying this is about reproductive health It's not just a euphemism. It's an outright lie. Governor Hark could be our guest. Governor, I have to tell you, it's debate night tonight. And I really watch back twenty twenty, the first one.

And Donald Trump was definitely getting impatient by the fact that he could not get enough questions off, and I thought he was interrupting in order to make a point. But Joe Biden got no discounts for any time he interrupted Trump. And a couple of times, Trump never even got a chance to answer the question because Chris Wallace was so busy interrupting him because he was interrupting Joe Biden. Having said all that, Tonight, I think, is going to be different. For the first time, Donald Trump enters a debate for the presidency leading.

in just about every battleground state in two national polls. you know about the mindset going in. You know what it was like to be the hot kid coming out of Iowa. You knew what it was like to try to have to score big when Trump was up early and stayed up early on those big debates.

So could should Donald Trump's mindset be different being that he does not have to necessarily go for the knockout? Oh, absolutely. Donald Trump is in a position where what he needs to do is to let Joe Biden talk. Let him talk. You know, I've heard people say Joe Biden is planning all these one-liners to try to get under Donald Trump's skin and try to trigger him.

That's a stupid idea, and I hope Biden does it. And I hope that what Trump does is what Trump did sitting in that courtroom in New York. every day for seven weeks. and that is to hear the most absurd, ridiculous, personal disgusting charges. Hailed against him.

And him not jump up over the table and go grab the judge by the neck and put him in a half Nelson. If Donald Trump can sit through that trial without blowing his top, he certainly can sit through this debate. That was great training for him. Perfect. preparation.

Joe Biden probably did him a favor and didn't realize it.

So if he goes in there and never takes the bait, and that's the important thing, never take Joe's bait. Let Joe just let him blow off. He probably won't be able to do it very effectively. He'll mumble, stumble and bumble his way through it. And when he does, he's going to look mean, he's going to look petty.

he's going to look very small. And if through all of that, if Trump just smiles and is the happy warrior. and continually reminds America what kind of economy they had four years ago under him, what kind of border we had, what kind of world we had, where Russia wasn't going into Ukraine, Hamas wasn't butchering innocent Jews, Where China wasn't staging military operations off the coast of Taiwan. Just remind Americans what a different world we had until Joe Biden decided to reverse everything that Donald Trump had done successfully. That's what how ought to happen for Trump tonight.

And if it does, It could be game over for Biden. Just, I thought there was an interesting perspective, and I thought this, Allison, you're my witness. I don't know if you were on that day because Allison takes a lot of vacations. I'm only kidding. But when they made the rules, Governor Huckabee, about Donald Trump's Mike being killed and limiting the answers to two minutes.

I thought that could actually help him. And because let him talk is going to hurt Joe Biden. Number two, when Trump can't talk, he's got a pen in his hand. He'll write down a few things. And he'll just look at and just be able to collect his thoughts, wait a second, take a deep breath.

He's got his minute. And I think it'll help. You know who agrees with me, and it's sad, Chuck Todd. Listen, cut five. They so want to have a different experience than the last debate they had with him or the first debate from the last cycle.

And ironically, it's the single best debate Biden had, right? Trump's behavior really sort of almost cemented Biden's lead by that point, and it may have done Trump in at that point. And now here's the Biden campaign trying to come up with a set of rules to make sure Trump seems more presentable. I have to say, it's a real, when you sort of look at their motivation here and given the experience they had four years ago, it's a head scratcher to me that they went so out of their way to try to create an environment that will make Trump seem more presidential. I mean, he hates him.

He hates Trump as much as Jake Tapper does. But he's right on this. Oh, I think he is right, and it's hard for me to admit that Chuck Todd would ever be right about something because normally he isn't. But in this case, he is. And let me affirm, I thought Trump's debate performance in the first debate of 2020 was not good.

In fact, it was awful. And it was like he was unprepared, he was anxious. He was way too key up. He didn't erupt too much. But he didn't do it the next time.

You know, Trump has a great way, if he stumbles over something, he doesn't do the same thing twice. And in the second debate, of course, by then most people had already voted because of the early voting and the mail-in ballots. Um But Trump going into this debate he's really got the wind to his back. I think Joe Biden and the Democrats made a big mistake by saying, let's have a debate early. Let's do it in June.

Let's do it before the conventions. Let's let CNN host it. Let's do it with muted microphones. They thought they were being clever, but they were too cute by half because what they've ended up doing is creating a forum that really will work to Donald Trump's advantage. Trump is at his best when he's under attack.

He is at his best. When he can show that he will be the contrarian. And I can tell you from having been on the debate stage with him, never underestimate his ability. to take something that most people would just crumble under. And he comes back and punches it right.

Overright. The third deck. Wall. It's just the way he plays it. Governor, you left something out.

On Saturday night, you were kind enough to join me live, and you said that you believed the shortlist was longer than it was for VP. What do you mean? We only have 20 seconds left.

Well, I just mean that everybody has their own list of who it is. I don't think that those lists are necessarily Trump's list. He will make the decision based on his own criteria, and we don't know what that is. But but I think we'll know it. At least by the convention.

I hope he doesn't announce it until the convention. Do you think your daughter's still on it? I have no idea. I don't think she wants to be on it because she loves her job. She loves Trump.

She wants Trump to win, and she'll do everything she can to help her. She's got a job. Right. Thanks, Governor.

Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. Welcome back there. Keep in mind, you know how this works. I'm lucky enough to go on Stuart.

It's always a great hit. We share each other's airwaves. He's on Fox Business, but afterwards, I have some time.

So get on board. I might be able to slide in some calls. And we have other things to do too. And keep in mind, we're getting closer and closer to the debate, and that's what fundamentally we're going to be talking about. But there's two things that are going to happen.

Trump wants to talk about crime and punishment, lack thereof, and he wants to talk about the border. The administration thinks they've gotten better on both. Let's listen. Brian, I want to talk about the CNN presidential debate. Who do you think wins?

Well, right now, for the first time ever, Donald Trump's going into a presidential debate. Leading everywhere he is up in the new polls in Quinnipiak, the Harris poll, up four or five points. You see him up in Georgia where the debate's going to be tonight. And I think that he goes into the mindset where he's got the issues on his side. And I just spoke to somebody who spoke to him this morning, and his answer to me was, he's in the right mindset.

And this guy is not necessarily Trump win or lose. He's somebody who had to be won over because he's in the right mindset. I think he's going to be calm. I think he's going to be deliberative. And I think the pressure is going to be on Joe Biden.

I think Joe Biden's going to come out like Don Rickles. I think he's going to have a bunch of one-liners, and I think they're going to fall flat because Stewart, he's not a funny guy. And by the way, one-liners for politicians have to be organic. And they leaked out that he's working on them. I mean, what is he doing?

Yeah, right. Do look. This is so important. Do you think that tonight could decide the election? Yeah, in a way.

Because what's going to stop the momentum? July 11th, I know that'll be another hit, but July 11th is the sentencing. The finalist with the vice president is not going to be radical. They seem to be solid guys. All three of them have pluses, maybe a couple of minuses, who knows?

But that's not going to be radical. The RNC is not going to be controversial. Maybe Nikki Haley's speech, hopefully, she'll be better than Ted Cruz's in 2016, will actually endorse the candidate, which he pretty much did already. It'll be pretty much that's it. If the court, especially with this immunity thing coming down from the Supreme Court tomorrow or next week, so if there's no more court cases and you get through July 11th, and this is the June debate.

I don't see Trump throwing it back to Joe Biden because too much is at stake for him personally. You got it. Today is the funeral service for 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungari. The people accused of murdering her are two illegal migrants.

Now, you interviewed Texas Governor Greg Abbott this morning. What did he say about this?

Well, what he said is it's inexplicable and unacceptable that HHS Secretary Mayorka said the only person should be blamed for that murder are the murderers. That may be if they were Americans that belonged here and they did this horrific crime. Yes, of course, these gangsters who were here and never should have been are the killers. I got it. One guy more than the next, if I'm going to believe the testimony.

However, There was one person whose policies have allowed more illegals to come in than any time in history. It is President Biden. There's one HHS secretary who's been telling us for three plus years that the border is secured and that nothing the president could do could change that.

Now he lets these criminals in. We hear about 400 ISIS recruits that have come through our border through their new human trafficking program, which is nice to see ISIS-K expanding in so many effective ways, which he denies is a problem. And then he's proven a liar when it said executive orders couldn't help because you just had a press conference, pal, that said the flow has stopped 40% since those executive orders came out.

So you can't let criminals in and not take blame for it. You can't have executive orders work and not tell everyone you lied for the last three years. And my goodness, don't tell us that 400 ISIS-escorted Central Asians came here and they're not dangerous. That's a ticking time bomb. That throws the election into absolute chaos, and Biden loses.

That's my opinion. Last 30 seconds to you. My last 30 seconds is this. You cannot tell the American people about terrorists. We all went to terrorist school since 9-11.

We know about ISIS, ISIS-K. We know about Hamas and Hezbollah. We know about who al-Qaeda is. We know who took over Afghanistan. We know that the Taliban is now made a terror university in Afghanistan.

We know who's responsible for abandoning that. You can't tell anybody. You don't have to be a Navy SEAL to understand what happened to us from 9-11, the attacks that's happened since, what our men and women have been fighting for overseas. And now that we pulled back, gave up on intelligence, opened up our border, you want us not to worry about it? I'm sorry.

We don't need your lead on this. We got this. Tonight's the night. Big night. Brian Kilmey.

Thanks very much indeed. All right. Thanks for watching. All right, 1-866-408-7669. I want to share this story.

I think it's really intriguing for Maxios. And just also a note, it's not been denied.

So, one of the main reasons when people come up to me and say Obama's really running things, I say no, is because I don't think they get along. I don't think Obama and Biden really got along. I think clearly Biden came in, he talks too much, he thinks he's an expert on everything, had to blow violate on every meeting that they were in, where Barack Obama liked to run small, efficient meetings, say little, listen a lot. He would come in and take over everything, and he was vehemently anti-military. By the time they were done, they were done.

And when he picked Hillary Clinton over Joe Biden as somebody to endorse to take on Trump eventually, that also alienated the two.

So, when Biden decides to run, he ends up winning. I never thought that Obama was going to be an insider. He's going to help Joe because it helps the Democratic Party, but I don't think he likes Joe.

Now, Michelle Obama has privately expressed, according to Axielle, his frustration over the Biden family largely exiling. her close friend, Kathleen Buell, after Buell's messy divorce from Hunter Biden. Remember the first wife? Why that matters? The family tensions and the former First Lady's disdain for partisan politics help explain why one of the most popular Democratic voices, which is Michelle Obama, has not campaigned one day for President Biden's reelection.

Even as former President Obama says he's willing to be a surrogate.

Now, the former first leader was initially reluctant to give him for Biden after he became the Democratic nominee in 2020. Because of some of these tensions, I'm going to factor something else in. They have a kin. He had Hunter Biden as a kid with London Roberts. One thing about the Obama is got a pretty tight family.

I know Michelle Obama was really tight with her brother and really tight with her family. If you read his books, it's all over the place. He had a fractured family, really raised by his grandparents, has a distant half-sister over in Kenya, another one over in Kenya. Really, no family.

So when London Roberts has Hunter Biden's kid, and Joe Biden doesn't even acknowledge nor see her, and she's only a few about 100 miles away. I imagine that adds to the disdain. Don't tell us you're a great family guy. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest minutes of the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. We're going to have Josh Crash Hour to talk about what's happening in politics today. It's all about the debate, obviously, but there's so much more going on, including a ton of polls coming in. And at the bottom of the hour, Betsy DeVos, former Secretary of Education, who kind of walked out early on Trump. A lot of people did.

When she walked back in because, you know, she was controversial to say the least, but it doesn't mean she did a bad job. It means that she wanted some accountability. They didn't like it. It's a pro-union place. Remember that, how crazy things were.

They were actually protesting the Secretary of Education with Trump. Remember how nuts people were early on.

So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. We know throughout the years that first debates can change things. You think about 1980, right? You go into that debate, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, dead heat.

Reagan wins that debate, all of a sudden jumps up high in the polls. And in this particular year, we're dealing with the closest race heading into a first debate on record in which there are doubts about both candidates. 2024, the latest polls show Trump is in La Blade, but challenges loom beyond the debate. Is he ready to tackle all of them? We'll discuss.

Number two. The numbers have dropped significantly since that executive order went into effect in early June. But the big question, which I assume the Trump campaign is going to hit him with, is why did you wait over three years to do this executive order? That is Bill Malujan, The Broken Border, tone deaf HHS secretary. Talks of success at the border with Joe Biden.

Seriously, in reality, the state of Biden's biggest failure is going to be the story. And we'll bury another victim of an illegal immigrant criminal, murderer, gangster. We'll discuss the reality of this disaster. Number one. For Biden, it's not misgivings necessarily about his character.

It's misgivings about his age, whether he's up to the job. And for Trump, it's misgivings about, dear God, are we going to go back to four more years of the kind of chaos and him being in our headspace again? Can I handle that? Or is it going to be four more years of him tweeting like an escape monkey from a cocaine study? So, Jonah Goldberg, obviously, letting his personal feelings get into his analysis, and that's okay.

Debate day has arrived. The goal for Biden is to get under Trump's skin. How do I know that? He said it. The goal for Trump is to highlight Biden's record and keep calm.

We debate the debate. Josh Crasshero, Fox News Radio political analyst, editor-in-chief of Jewish Insider. Josh, welcome back. Hey, Brian, great to be back on such a big political night. It is.

It's hours away now. Instead of in theory, and wonder what will happen. I bet you one's not going to show up. I bet you'll never accept the terms. All that's out the window.

This thing is going to happen. I think for Trump, it's the first time he goes into a debate like this leading. I mean, it's just polls, but they're pretty consistent. To me, it changes your approach. You don't need the knockout.

You show you know the industry, show you know the issues, show you know how you would solve it. Don't just say inflation's bad. This is how I'm going to attack it when I'm in there. This is how it got there. And just get ready to be debating with Don Rickles, evidently.

They've been practicing for 10 days on these one-liners. Yeah. Well, look, I think both candidates could end up benefiting from low expectations. I mean, from Biden's perspective, I think there is a widespread sense that he doesn't have the energy or coherence to do well in a debate, even though the record shows he's been quite a good debater and, frankly, beat Donald Trump in the two debates in 2020, especially that first one.

So, you know, there's that low expectations game that, frankly, Trump has helped perpetuate at times on the campaign trail. And for Trump, I think, look, I think everyone expects him to be as aggressive and attacking as he was in 2020. But I think he's run a much more sophisticated campaign. He's been much more well, for Trump, certainly he's been more disciplined than he has on the campaign trail than in past elections.

So I think, you know, if he just really Offers an indictment of the last four years, asks voters, are you better off than you were four years ago? And sprinkles some policy disagreements in between. I mean, it would be a big night for Donald Trump. Look, I don't think the numbers are going to change all that much. People are locked in decisions.

There's only a small percentage, 5%, 6%, if you look at the polls, of truly undecided voters. But in a close race like this, even small incremental movement can have a big impact. And the thing is, they want to say, well, remember the chaos in the first term.

Well, if President Trump is having these big rallies and not creating the type of firestorm he had in the past, he isn't. And then you have a debate where he's kind of having fun and doesn't. People really, if you think you have amnesia now, It'll really kick in then. And listen to Kevin McCarthy, who I think should be chief of staff should Trump win, cut nine. And if you watch Biden throughout his career, the one thing that he has done well is in debates.

Go back to the vice president debate against Paul Ryan. Go back to the presidential debates. He always surpass expectations because we continue to lower them for him. Remember, this is the highest office in the land. And no matter what Biden turns out, he's got two people in his corner.

Jake Tapper and Dana Bash. Those two will protect him. Maybe they'll interrupt when he starts messing up his words. Maybe they'll interject to help. And remember, Jake Tapper, remember where this guy started?

Prior to working for CNN, he was a spokesperson for Hooters. This guy will go to any level. And he's going to protect them every chance he has. I didn't know that was true. That's true?

That's the first I've heard of that, to be honest. But look, I don't think it's going to be successful if Trump ends up attacking the moderators. he's going to have a night like he did in twenty twenty when he went after Chris Wallace in addition to being aggressive against Biden on that first debate.

So I don't know if that's good advis I mean, I don't know if I agree with Kevin McCarthy on that front. I also think that Trump You know, he did not win the 2020 debate against Joe Biden. He didn't get good advice. I think he's a much better team advising him this time around, and I think will exceed expectations. I think that's a good bet because I think if you listen to what he's been saying on the campaign trail, he's a good bit of material to work with.

It's not just about the 2020 election, it's not just about sort of his personal grievances. There's a lot of policy that he can really show how vulnerable Biden is on the economy, on immigration, on crime. I mean, there's just foreign affairs. There's just so much material Trump has to work with.

So, you know, I think there are times when people underestimate Trump, but I think he also benefits from a lot of the dissatisfaction that the public has towards this president, President Biden. Right. You know, it's kind of interesting, and Josh, we've discussed this before. You know, immigration and the border is a huge issue. That's what the president ran on in 2016.

Law and order is a big issue. That's what he ran on in 2016. And when he talked about calm overseas and being proud of not being in a war, we are in the middle of supporting two major wars right now. And you can't say that. Our enemies aren't emboldened.

Anybody would tell you: as the Russian ships were in Cuba, as Chinese build up this massive port in Peru, as they harass our new ally who we have a defense agreement with the Philippines, as Japan feels somewhat how they have to rewrite their constitution to build up their own armaments, and we see North Korea and South Korea look like they're ready to explode at any moment.

So, you don't really, all the things that Trump was saying and doing. have come around. Like he d as luck would have it. He was his issues are riper in 2024 than they were in 2016. he's the challenger this time around.

And it's good to be the guy who's not in office when things are going off the rails. And there's going to be a lot of examples that Trump will have to point to. I mean, when it comes to foreign affairs, when it comes to Ukraine, What's going on in the Middle East, China? I mean, I think most Americans, they may not follow all the ins and outs on a daily basis, but there is a widespread sense that the world is spinning out of control. And Biden has been the commander in chief during that same period.

And he also has his fingerprints all over the Afghanistan withdrawal, which was sort of the first thing that happened, sort of the gateway to a lot of the future crises and challenges on the world stage.

So, yes, I think, yeah, look, I think that there's going to be an ideological disagreement, but I think the best argument Trump is going to have is look at where things were when I left office. Look at the chaos internationally that's taking place. And even if it's not all Biden's fault, that a lot of voters don't necessarily agree and they're going to pin the blame on the incumbent.

So the former president's increasing in Hispanic vote. You know that. You know, he's increasing with under 30s. He's also increasing with the black vote. He's working hard at it.

Wesley Hunt was in an event at a barbershop yesterday. Then you had the president in Detroit, the president in South Bronx, the president. He was in Philadelphia, and he just does. I'm not going to win this city, but I can win some people over. And this is a lot of people like James Clyburn obviously must be alarmed because they're coming out kind of in hyperbolic statements: wise up, black America.

You don't know what you're doing. And then CBS is running this package, and they asked a barbershop owner about who they're voting for. Listen to this: cut 17. I just wanted to hear both sides of the story. More research.

I mean, Trump is saying great things. And He's making a lot of sense.

So, you know, let's see what happens. It's just about who's helping you, who's making your business grow. That's Rocky Jones, an African-American barbershop owner. And that's who the president's knocking on those doors now, Josh. Yeah, I mean, this is a margin game.

It's not about who's going to win the black vote, it's about whether. Biden can get 90% of the which is about what got in the 2020 election and Every poll you see Shows him slipping considerably to 80, 75%. You name the poll, there's some considerable slippage. And look, the black vote, the working class black vote in particular, it makes up a key share of the electorate in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Georgia, certainly as well. And boy, if you lose 10 points on that margin, that could make all the difference in the world.

So you stated anecdotally. You're hearing these interviews. You're seeing it in the polls. I mean, Biden definitely is going to need to do some cleanup. And it hasn't shown yet.

Whatever he's been doing so far, the campaign events, the policies haven't moved those numbers one bit over the last few months. Right. A few things, too. They think that they got it because. Violent murder.

Murder is down across the country, and they feel as though these executive orders have made them less vulnerable on the border because the numbers have come down. Listen to Mayorkas' a cut from Mayorkas at his presser yesterday, cut twenty. Here in Tucson. We have seen a more than 45% drop in U.S. Border Patrol encounters since the President took action.

And repatriations of encountered individuals in Tucson have increased by nearly 150 percent. Across the entire southern border, border patrol encounters have dropped by over 40%.

So they think these numbers will help the president tonight. Will they?

Well, look, I think to their credit, the executive order, which was much Delayed and awaited, they're claiming credit that it's reduced some of the numbers in terms of unauthorized crossings on the border. I think there's a lot more to go, and I think it also underscores the fact that a lot more could be done. I mean, if a civil executive order that was years in the or you know, many, many months in the making could have that impact, then there's a lot more they could be doing that they aren't. Um so look, I think I think uh the data, they're gonna b be pointing to the numbers, um, but I think um the the general sense is that it takes a lot more for that border to be secure. And the the other big story is Tying into national security.

Like the lot of reporting over the last couple of weeks have suggested that there are people who have ties to ISIS or ties to groups that want to do harm to the country that have crossed that southern border.

So there increasingly is a national security, it's always been a national security component, but there are a lot of alarming headlines that really could do damage to Biden if we could learn more about the lack of vetting of some of these folks that have crossed and have really suspicious records. Right. I just think that, too, if you say, well, I couldn't do anything. I can't do anything. Nothing I could do.

Congress has to act. Oh, I did something. It worked.

Well, why did it take you three years to do something you said you couldn't do?

So there's an easy way to debate that issue. I thought this was fascinating. Governor Andrew Cuomo, now disgraced, who wants to be the mayor and who knows what's going to happen with the current mayor, said this with Bill Moore when it comes to immigration, cut 22. His immigration policy was a mistake, right? I get the theory of the extreme left: we're a land of immigrants, let everyone come in, we all came as immigrants.

I get it. But how you do it makes all the difference in the world, right? And to just open the borders with no plan, you don't know where they go, you don't know who's going to pay for them, they wind up in cities all across the country. New York has a couple of hundred thousand in hotels, costing New York City a fortune, no jobs, no training, no help assimilating into society.

So who did you even help? Really? That sounds like Trump. How did that happen? Yeah, it's well, look, I mean, it it shows you where the political meebel is moving even among Democrats.

Now, Andrew Cuomo has always been a little more moderate and he's been much more moderate or you know, he's now that he's sort of out of politics, he's been much more free to criticize his own party. But that that's exactly right. I mean, then the the well, how often do you hear Democrats, Brian, use the word assimilation? You know, the need to, if you're going to come into this country, you got to, you know, you can't be waving, you know, anti-American flags at the terrorist rally. You need to embrace the values of this country.

That's something that most Americans would have embraced, and it would be a non-partisan, bipartisan issue. And yet it's rare to hear that from any Democrat these days.

So look, if they talk more like Andrew Cuomo, I know Cuomo has a lot of baggage in other areas. If that's the type of rhetoric that Democrats used in talking about needing to embrace American values and assimilation and the types of things that Cuomo said on the Bill Maher show, they'd be doing a much better job. Unfortunately, they've been kind of held in the grip of a very progressive left activist class, and they've been very, very wary about even moderating their rhetoric and policies on these issues. And lastly, about the loss of Jamal Bowman, embarrassment on any way, in every way to me, especially having rally in the South Bronx instead of the North Bronx that he actually represents over the weekend. That was the nail in the coffin, perhaps.

But listen to what AOC says about him after he. Lost and which he thinks the reason is, which I was astounded by. And I'm just wondering: do you think that this is going to be the beginning of the end of the squad, or at least their heyday? Cut 16? I think the implications of that race are the fact that we should all be extremely concerned about the role of big money, about the role of massive organizations that can just pour.

a historic $20 million, the most ever spent in American history in difficult to trace in difficult to trace funds in order to have influence in our elections. He's talking about APAC, and he was already losing before APAC got involved, but his anti-Israeli rhetoric was alarming. Anti-Semitism was astounding, and denying the severity of the attack on October seventh unacceptable. What do you take from that race?

Well, number one, he lost by 17 points in a closed Democratic primary. Only Democrats could participate, and they rejected Jamal Bowman resoundingly. It's a sign that even among Democrats, that kind of left-wing, anti-Israel, anti-Semitic rhetoric was unwelcome. It's a suburban, mostly combines the Bronx with suburban Westchester County. I think that the squad only has narrow appeal in the most furthest progressive precincts in the country.

There are not a whole lot of them, most of them in the cities and college towns, but it's a very fringe minority in the country. The two races where squad members either lost in Jamal Bowman's case or Corey Bush. Really on the ropes in Missouri, one thing that they have in common is these are suburban districts. They have big suburban components to them.

So, I mean, anywhere outside of the furthest left-wing areas of this country, the AOC rhetoric, the squad rhetoric is rejected, even among Democrats. And the anti-Israel message is a losing one. Josh Krashar, thanks so much. I hope you're right, and I think you are. Back in a moment.

It's Brian Killmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. Tomorrow is the first presidential debate, and the big controversy is which drugs may be used tomorrow night. And I just want to state for the record that I have no idea what drugs I will take.

I watched the debate, but they will be potent and they will be plentiful.

So, Martin Troy having some fun hosting Jimmy Kimmel. I guess you must really like that monologue because you never pick out monologue jokes.

Well, two things. You don't love when you pull a Kimmel or a Colbert. They don't necessarily, you know, but they're also usually not funny. They're overly political and mean. And Martin Short, A, I do adore him.

But B, they're just funny, right?

So it's a twist. You're expecting him to take a dig at Biden or Trump. And then he says, I'm going to be having great quality potent drugs. Right. I mean the other guys just feel so much pressure.

I mean, Stephen Colbert is having like a New York councilman on. He's given up entertainment a long time ago. Uh, we'll say, hey, listen, when we come back, uh, we'll continue to talk and also welcome in Betsy DeVos. We'll talk about education, the role. Maybe that comes up tonight.

That'll be a bit of a surprise. Are we both ready for it? School choice is hot. You heard, I was talking to Governor Abbott today of Texas, says his big push with school choice in Texas. Information you want, truth you demand.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. When President Biden took office, as you know, he began to issue a flurry of executive orders and make all sorts of pronouncements. And he told us from his first day in office that they were going to rewrite Title IX. They were going to dramatically revise it. And that was an ominous warning.

And they've made good on it. As you know, the Department of Education, the Federal Department of Education has gone about its effort to rewrite Title IX, and it's having a very devastating effect. It's something that is a great alarm to all of us because it's a harm and it could be a great harm to women and girls, and especially in athletics and all these other arenas. What do you think? I mean, we have to have a hearing on this, really, to get Title IX to protect women's sports.

It used to be Title IX. Hey, guys, hey, boys, got to make room for women's sports. I don't care if you have to cut a sport, it's got to be equal. If you have 60 men on the football roster, you're going to need 60 women. You got to get a bunch of sports there.

And if you have too many, sadly, we lost gymnastics and wrestling in some situations because of that. And that was an adjustment. But this, that was expected. And there are more women athletes every day. But this is a total surprise.

They were debating on whether boys who think they're women or girls should play against men. And we watched people like Alex Morgan, Reagan Megan Rapino of the women's national soccer team say, I have no problem with it. I highly doubt it if they actually played against it. But that was the hearings that took place yesterday. It's all part now of the school experience.

Bessie DeVos, USB, Secretary of Education, joins us now. Ms. Secretary, great to see you. I'm just wondering: did you ever think we'd be debating this?

Well, Brian, great to be with you. And it's astounding to me and many others that 52 years almost to the day after Title IX was passed by a Democrat legislature and a Republican President, that we are here talking about protecting Title IX for women and ensuring that they have the equal opportunities to pursue athletics. just as the men have. And now we are talking about men in women's sports, in women's locker rooms, women's bathrooms. And it's really astounding and appalling.

But that's where we're at right now. Congresswoman Virginia Fox was holding this hearing, Cut 37. The whole idea behind Title IX is to treat men and women. in opportunity and in scholarships equally. And at the time, it was a bipartisan issue.

Again, men, I mean, Democrats seemed to know what a woman was in those days and what a man was. They'll do the good old days. Remember, we have a Supreme Court justice who would not define what a woman was. Yeah, it's astounding, really. And Speaker Johnson yesterday hosted a panel of including Chairwoman Fox, myself, and Riley Gaines, who has been personally affected and impacted, representing dozens and dozens of female athletes who've had opportunities denied because of men participating in their particular sport.

and drawing attention to this, but the Biden rule is set to go in effect in early August. But there are legal cases pending. Already 10 states enjoined where judges have said, you're absolutely right. This Biden rule is wrong, and we're going to tell the states that have brought the case forward, you don't have to implement this rule when they say it does. And then importantly, the other avenue in Congress is the Congressional Review Act, where members of Congress can say, no, stop.

This rule cannot and will not go into effect. That is in process right now, and the House will soon be voting on it. I, you know, it should be a broadly bipartisan issue and pass by unanimous consent to protect women's sports. I hope all these members of Congress who are touting the opportunities for women actually stand up and cast their vote in that way. I would think so.

So let's move on to talk about more of the education, Secretary of Education. On that job at the end, after January 6th, you kind of left. Have you talked to former President Trump since? I've not talked to former President Trump. Continued to actively campaign for policies that bring education freedom to kids across the country.

Many states have enacted policies now. Many more are in process of doing so. Importantly, Texas on the cusp of doing it because of tough politics and turning some out of office who refuse to stand with kids and parents. And then, importantly, fighting to protect our rule around Title IX, which has. Withstood the tests in the courts because it's legal.

The Biden rule is totally illegal.

So, the big push now, I think, is for choice when it comes to education. And the stud the unions don't want that. A lot of Southern states do not have a school choice where you get vouchers to go to a private school and you make these schools compete for their students like, let's say, Florida does. Your thoughts on that?

Well, there is a wave sweeping the country, and it began in earnest after 30-plus years of effort when families everywhere saw how poorly the government-run monopolistic system did for their kids during COVID. And it has begun a momentum that is unstoppable to implement education freedom policies for families where the money for that child follows that child to the school or education setting of their family's choosing. This is a huge shift, and within a few years, we're going to see so much of a different environment for kids in K-12 education. It needs to continue. We're not done.

We're not there yet. But this is an unstoppable change because the system that the kids have been subjected to for so many decades. have failed them. And it has been controlled and run by the teachers' union starting at the top, and then all their allied organizations. And right now, they have a direct pipeline to the Oval Office of the United States.

They do, and we saw that with the school closures that never reopened or took forever to reopen after COVID, and the damage is still being done. But you know, they also look at the subsects of this as the charter schools. These charter schools, they're more demanding. They usually offer more courses and they get better results from the kids. Money's there for them to do it.

Teachers' unions don't want charter schools. The teachers aren't unionized there.

So they're pushing back against it in places like New York, but they're hurting minority kids who they always were saying that they aim to protect. Absolutely. The teachers' unions are not for teachers and they're not for kids. They're for money and power and control themselves. And they have shown that in every aspect, particularly navigating through COVID.

And that's when people's eyes were really open. Many of us have known this for decades, but it became glaringly evident when they kept schools closed for months and months on end, when they had all kinds of rules that had no logic or rationale to them, and when they failed at delivering education at a distance in a time when kids had to be home for a short period of time. They have failed on every front, and they keep doubling down on it. And they are going to continue to fight tooth and nail for their remaining power. But parents have awakened and they are fighting for their kids today.

Right. And listen to what Kydalisa Wright said on. Juneteenth about this. As you know, she's now a Stanford University. I think she's president of the Hoover Institute at this point.

Let's listen. So, are you for school choice or not? We already have a choice system in education. If you are of means, you will move to a district where the schools are good and the houses are expensive, like Palo Alto, California. If you go across the street from Stanford, Palo Alto High has a performance arts center that looks like a smaller version of Stanford's.

If you're really wealthy, you will send your kids to private schools.

So who's stuck in failing neighborhood schools? Poor kids. A lot of them minority kids.

So how can you say you're for civil rights? How can you say you're for the poor? When you're condemning those children to not being able to read by the time they're in third grade, they're never going to read.

So if you want to say that school choice and vouchers and Charter schools are destroying the public schools fine. You write that editorial in the Washington Post, but then don't send your kids to Sidwell Friends. Which is private, that they can afford. said it so succinctly, and this is the argument that's been made for years that people have finally awakened to because their own kids, they saw how impacted they have been. And this is a good thing.

This will fundamentally change the future of education as more and more providers can give families the choices they need, recognizing that kids all learn differently and that we've had a system that has basically approached education the very same way for one hundred seventy five years. It's time to change and it's time to do much better for our kids.

So President Trump was asked: What are you going to cut? You got to cut. We lose a trillion dollars in debt every three months. What are you going to cut? And he said, well, the Department of Education.

Here's what Christopher Ruffo said, who's been for that, Cut 35. Given what has happened the last four years since COVID, since critical race theory, since trans in schools. Since all of these disasters in American education have become public, We know that the approximately 5,000 people in the Department of Education are certainly up to no good. We should send them home. We should get the pink slips ready because absolutely, I think that it's time for the Department of Education to go.

Your thoughts. You used to run that department. Absolutely, and I've actually suggested the same thing for several years now. The department does not have a reason to exist. It started in 1979, went as a payoff that Jimmy Carter made to the teachers' unions for having endorsed him in 1976 for president.

It was started supposedly to close the achievement gap between the highest performing students and the lowest performing ones. Over a trillion dollars later, the gaps have not only not narrowed, they have actually widened in most respects. And here we continue to spend billions and billions and billions of dollars more, over $200 billion in addition for COVID that were supposed to go to learning losses. And very, very little, if anything, was accomplished through that. There is no argument for the department to exist and do the same things it's been doing.

It should be phased out. It should be abolished. Over time, and I have also advocated for that very vocally. Great. Betsy DeVos, thanks so much.

Thank you so much, Brian. Have a great day. You too. We'll be back to finish up this hour and get your final thoughts about the debate, which is just now hours away. You'll listen to the Brian Kill Meet Show.

Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Killmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmead. Three weeks ago. in the face of congressional inaction.

President Biden used his executive authority and suspended the entry of non-citizens across the southern border. We are imposing stricter consequences for those who cross the border without authorization. Our team did an exceptional job quickly implementing this new policy. and we are already seeing the results. Here in Tucson, We have seen a more than 45% drop in U.S.

Border Patrol encounters since the President took action. And repatriations of encountered individuals in Tucson have increased by nearly 150 percent. Across the entire southern border, border patrol encounters have dropped by over 40%.

The safety and security of the American public is indeed our highest priority. We screen and vet individuals when we encounter them. If we learn of derogatory information subsequently, later in the process, then we take enforcement action accordingly. The individual who is responsible for a heinous criminal act is the criminal. and we need to bring the full force of the law to bear on that criminal.

Just despicable. And that is when Maorcus thinks he pulled off a spin there. But you saw some of the questions was not just Matt Flynn, our reporter, who's asking the questions. Other people are asking the questions. And also, add to the story of get this, ISIS now has a travel division.

and they're now rounding up Central Asians Don't mean to generalize, but that's where a lot of these terrorists are hatched and sent out. Ask Moscow. They also had another terror attack last week. That's where they're coming from.

Now it turns out 400 ISIS-K travel clients came through Mexico into our country. And then they're asked, Hey, shouldn't we be worried about this? He says, There's no reason to worry about this, no reason to think they're terrorists. We already know the terrorists. We already know they're from.

They're not refugees trying to get out of Tazikistan because they want a better life. They want to come to America suddenly because there's some money in it. Just like there's it's now suddenly cool to start blowing things up In Russia, they really know what's behind all that in Russia.

Now, they don't really talk too much about the horrific terror attack that happened in their movie theater, the one that happened last week. That's on them. But for the most part, you have an HHS secretary who's desperately trying to avoid a terror attack before he leaves office and to paint a better picture on immigration before the debate. Where have we heard this before? With the laptop.

Horrible story about all the secrets of the Bidens located on a laptop that was turned over to the FBI that suddenly became public right before the last debate. At which time? Wood. 51 intel agents were rounded up by Mike Morrell and Anthony Blinken to sign off, including as hired up as Gina Haspel, who they say, according to reports, knew about it. to sign off on it.

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