Stoltenberg and O'Brien talk threats to US, foreign and domestic

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kelmead. A lot to discuss, so much to do. Hi, everybody. It's been a big week.

Next week will be bigger. We've got a debate on Thursday. We're getting ready for that. Both sides got to have their different strategies. We'll go over that.

The former president's going to be in Philadelphia this weekend, and I think the current president. is just going to hang out in Camp David with some real good news on the on the right. In terms of fundraising, what an hour we have. I'm so glad you're listening because we have the Secretary General of NATO, Jan Stoltenberg. He's going to be with us.

How great is that? And we have the U.S. Air Force Brigadier General, Robert Spalding. We have so many hotspots in this world. We.

Probably can't get through all of them, but we're going to try. This present Some circumstantial, some p f policy. has let help light the world on fire and really gave jet fuel to our adversaries. For now, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three.

So, Congress needs act. Let's get that out there. Congress. can and should act. They can have a national standard, but until such time, we'll lead the nation in so many ways we've always done before.

Not really, Governor, but you are right this time. Momentum billed for parents and teachers to ban and stop the use of phones and social media at home and in the classroom. We're going to talk about it. I want to know how you feel about it. I think kids, if everybody's in on it, will be relieved that this will be the new trend and the new rule.

Number two. Trump did not help himself, you know, in 2020 when he was constantly interrupting Biden. He knows that. He has said that to people. Trump and his folks are aware that they set the expectations too low for Biden, and Biden beat them.

They're trying to avoid doing that now. Maggie Haberman, New York Times, fancies herself a Trump insider, always trying to take him down. But this is somewhat accurate. 2024, the gap closed since Donald Trump's conviction when it comes to money. But the former president has raised so much more money now, he has now caught up to the sitting president.

We have six days into the first debate, and we'll look at the latest details and strategies for each candidate. Number one. My sources verified the same thing. Both these people came from Venezuela. Both were arrested at the border in El Paso, one in May and one in March.

Just just May, just entered. And released by the Borbito after their so-called betting. Unbelievable, and that is Tom Holman. The enemies within, allowing millions illegally to come here, putting average Americans under threat as more murderers, rapes, and slings become front page news. And as President Trump said a couple of days ago, they're just starting to get comfortable.

The worst is yet to come. What was Tom Homan referring to?

Well, it's happened in Houston, Texas. And the perpetrators, Johan Martinez and Franklin Ramos, 121 to 126, they were charged on Thursday with capital murder. Why? Because these two Venezuelan criminals are charged with abducting and strangling a 12-year-old Texas girl who crossed the border. These two crossed the border illegally.

They were told. You're going to get out. We're going to put a monitor on you, and then you have your day in court. We'll monitor you. We don't even know if those monitors were taken off, those ankle bracelets were taken off.

But either way, they got caught, they got nailed, and this girl is dead. And the family forever has changed for the worse. Rachel Morin, the alleged killer, extradited to Maryland five days after we were arrested in Oklahoma in Tulsa. ICE confirmed that Victor Martinez-Hernandez entered the U.S. as a gotaway.

Why? Because he was rejected three times. To me, I want to know why I was rejected. Because if he was rejected because he failed a background check, why don't we arrest him? Because especially if he comes back, he comes across the cross in Santa Teresa, New Mexico.

january nineteenth. July January 31st, El Paso. Nope. February 6th, 2023. Back to Santa Risa, New Mexico.

Nope. So then it became a gotaway.

Well, what is a gotaway?

Well there's a million There's 1.4 million Godaways have come to this country. Excuse me, 1.8 million Godaways have come to this country since Joe Biden. came to power. Known gotaways El Paso sixty one thousand Tucson sixty four thousand Del Rio, 29,000. That's people we know were caught.

They didn't try to, they wanted not to get caught. Usually criminals, usually traffickers, usually a big problem.

Now, to Donald Trump's credit, he picked up the phone and he called Rachel Morin. She is the mother of five who was killed, and that's the guy that we got in Tulsa that was brought over to Maryland that hopefully will get life in prison in a very hor harsh environment. But killed the mother of five, and the family Rachel Morin's family. It was Patty Morinda's mom who took the call. It was deeply touched that he called.

It was deeply touched by President Trump's kindness and concern. He stayed on the phone 30 minutes. That's a guy that cares. I've seen it before with Officer Diller when he was killed, and you came and visited the family at the funeral home. And there were some moments there that would have made the president look really good, like when the.

Uh when the son Ryan Of knowing his dad was in the casket just a few feet away, looked at the president and asked if he can get a high five, and he gave him a high five. And the mom, the widow said, Can you give me a hug? Gave him a hug. When I asked President Trump what happened in there, this was private. You realize how good he would have looked had that happened, if people's perception of the way he was going to be received.

The President can't call everybody killed by illegal immigrants. It makes him look bad. But it would be nice if he reached out to some of them. But his own staff doesn't know the story. Tom Holman cut one.

My sources verified the same thing. Both these people came from Venezuela. Both were arrested at the border in El Paso, one in May and one in March. Just May, just entered. released by the Morbito after their so-called vetting.

And release per the DHS guidelines of release.

So, yet, we got another young girl. Dead. Because this administration Israelians to secure the border. We also have another situation about a rape that happened to a 13-year-old in broad daylight right in New York, and Good Samaritans knew this guy by the sketch and the description of the 13-year-old gave of the perpetrator. And they said, We know this guy.

He always goes this bodega. And they waited, about five of them. And when he showed up at one in the morning, they were there. And they wrestled him to the ground. And he's he's his coward.

He was cowering, shaking underneath the car. They slapped him around a little. I hope a lot. Daniel Ramos was there in America's newsroom to talk about how they knew it was him and what they wanted to do. I hope they all get the ten thousand dollar reward.

Cut three. He knew better not to put up a fight. He couldn't really put up a fight 'cause of he was outnumbered and um it probably would have gone worse if he did. It was better that he did it. And he was just trying to cop a play, like trying to say, you know, let me explain.

Um, I can explain. At first he's tried to say he didn't he di he didn't care what he did and then he tried to say, Let me explain, but we wasn't trying to hear any of it. And there was nothing really to explain. What he did was horrible and he did that to a thirteen year old innocent little girl, so we don't we don't condone that. No kidding.

So, street justice there. The cops came in and picked him up. We'll hear more from him.

So, when we come back, the Secretary General of NATO, Jan Stoltenberg, will be joining us. Man, are we being tested? In the Ukraine, obviously, good news: Sweden and Finland are now into the alliance, and 23 of the 31 of the 31 nations, 32 nations, are Are now hitting their 2% GDP guarantee. You listen to the Brian Kill Me Show, so glad you're here. Newsmakers and newsbreakers, hear it first on The Brian Killmeat Show.

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Hi, we are back. It's my pleasure to bring in Secretary General of NATO, Jan Stoltenberg, whose tenure is about to come to a close voluntarily. He was asked to stay out another year because no one could agree. On a successor, and most everybody agreed he was doing a great job. And now NATO has never has been tested like no other time before.

And are they responding? Are they up to the challenge? Primarily coming from Russia and their new best friends. Mr. Secretary, welcome back.

Thanks so much for having me. Mr. Secretary, what is your reaction to President Putin's visit alliance military arrangement with North Korea? It demonstrates once again that authoritarian powers like Russia, North Korea are more and more aligned, and that also applies for China and Iran, which are now strongly supporting President Putin's war of aggression against Ukraine.

So it demonstrates that what happens in Ukraine is not only about Europe and Ukraine, it's about Asia.

So if Putin wins in Ukraine, it will also be a win for North Korea and not east for Beijing and uh and China. Ukraine might have won already if North Korea didn't provide the artillery and Iran didn't provide the drones and China the dual u dual use weaponry, what can you do about this? First of all, it's important that we ensure that they don't win in Ukraine, because that's the test. They want us to fail, the US to fail, NATO to fail in Ukraine, and that would be a tragedy for the Ukrainians, but it will also be dangerous for all of us. And as the Japanese Prime Minister said some months ago, is that what happens in Ukraine today can happen in Asia tomorrow.

So the war in Ukraine is about much more than just Ukraine. I think the main message to China, which is the main supporter of the Russian war effort, is that they cannot have it both ways. They cannot continue to have normal trade relationships with European NATO allies and continue to fuel the biggest and most dangerous war we have seen on the European continent since the Second World War.

So at some stage there has to be some consequences for trade and economic relations. Mr Secretary, one thing you could do is rally the European markets as well as the American markets. to start hitting them with trade relations and hit them with tariffs and restrict some of their goods. They recognize economic threats, correct? Would you think NATO's on the same page with this?

Would you encourage that?

Well, I made it clear that unless China's behavior doesn't change, and if China continues to be the main provider of dual-use equipment, microelectronics, microprocessors, which are used to build the drones, the bombs, the missiles that Russia is using against Ukraine, then it has to have a cost. It's too early for me to say exactly what allies will be able to agree to, and it will not be NATO as an organization that will make decisions on economic sanctions. That's for individual allies, the United States, Canada, but also then European allies, many of them part of the European Union. But NATO is a platform for allies to raise this issue, and I raise the issue that there has to be cost consequences for China if they continue. It would certainly help.

You announced this week that 23 nations are hitting their 2% spending on their defence GDP. The nations that have joined that 2% and the ones that have now, who are the ones that have not? Not yet.

Well, there are some allies that's Spain, Italy and Canada. This is a public list, so everyone can go to NATO's homepage and see those allies. But the big thing is that NATO allies together in total has delivered. If you take defence spending across Europe and Canada, they are actually now spending 2% in total of GDP on defence. When we made the pledge to increase defence spending back in 2014, only three out of all NATO allies spent 2% or more on defence.

Now it's actually 23%. This is a record high, and it demonstrates that actually European allies are seriously stepping up, delivering on what they promised. And the United States is some allies actually spending more as a percent of GDP on defence than the United States.

So this is really good news. U.S. is not carrying the burden alone. The Allies are stepping up. Yeah, and Poland actually spends more percentage on their GDP than anybody else.

But, Mr. Secretary, what about this Russians working behind the scenes surreptitiously, covertly, to hurt NATO members, whether it's through elections, whether it's through some cyber attacks or something else?

So far, we haven't had innocent people die, but that seems to be Putin's objective. How do you handle a more aggressive, more um complex Vladimir Putin.

Well, we have imposed a lot of we have implemented many actions to counter Russia's hostile acts against NATO allies. This is partly about identifying what is going on.

So better intelligence, sharing intelligence is important. And the sharing of intelligence between NATO allies have actually helped to prevent some of the sabotage hostile actions that Russian security services have planned against NATO allies. There have been several arrests in the United Kingdom, Poland, Germany and other European countries. And also Russian security operatives and diplomats have been expelled from NATO territory.

So sharing intelligence, taking legal actions and also expelling people who are actually Also responsible for hostile actions are among the actions we have been taking to protect us ourselves against uh these uh malign activities of Russian uh uh operatives. What's your frustration with the US? How would you if I could if you could improve anything with their role in NATO, what would it be? The United States is by far the biggest NATO ally and I'm confident the United States will remain a strong NATO ally. I think the only thing I'd like to see is that the United States recognizes even clear that a strong NATO is not only good for Europe, it's also very good for the United States.

It makes the United States safer. In NATO, the United States has something no other power has. Russia and China has nothing like that, more than thirty friends and allies. The United States is 25% of the world's economy. Together with NATO allies, you are 50% of the world economy and 50% of the world's mid-term rights.

So NATO makes the United States stronger and more capable of dealing, for instance, with China and the security challenges China is posing to all of us. Do you have any doubt if President Trump is to win the next election, that he'd want to stay in NATO? I'm confident that regardless of the outcome of the US elections, the US will continue to be a strong NATO ally, again, because it is in the interest of the United States, but also because the main criticism from former President Trump was actually not primarily against NATO. It has been against NATO allies not spending enough on NATO. And the good news is that that's exactly what NATO allies now are doing.

They have significantly stepped up record high increase in defence spending, eighteen percent this year, and twenty three allies at two percent, and many actually quite significantly above two percent.

So this is good news. Allies are stepping up.

So it looks like uh Dutch Prime Minister Mark Root. Uh who visited with Joe Biden the other day. Who visited with Joe Biden in the past, and I guess he had to win over Romania. He was asked twice before the third time he actually looks like he's going to get the job. Is he going to be your successor?

And how do you view Mark Root?

So I expect the formal decision to be made next week, and I welcome the selection of Mark Rutte very much. He's a good friend, a good colleague. I worked with him for many years. Also, when I was Prime Minister of Norway and he was the Prime Minister of the Netherlands, and he knows NATO well. He's a strong supporter of the transatlantic bond, Europe and North America together.

And he will be a perfect Secretary General of NATO.

So my focus now is on the preparations for the upcoming NATO summit in Washington next month. And then I'm looking forward to hand over the responsibilities to him on the 1st of October later this year. Is this the most dangerous you felt the world was since you got the job, number one, and maybe since the alliance was birthed? It's very hard to compare, for instance, the Cuban missile crisis with what we see now, but I think it's great to say that it's more dangerous and more complex and more unpredictable than it has been for decades. And that makes it just even more important that we stand together, North America and Europe.

No one can tell exactly what will the next crisis, what will the next war be, but what we can say with certainty is that as long as we stand together, we will prevail, we will be able to defend and protect all allies and prevent a military attack on NATO because you are by far the strongest military force in the world when we put North America and Europe together.

Well, by old catch, you did a fantastic job. I mean, people praise you up and down, and you did a great job of not being to one party or the next. Thanks so much, Mr. Secretary, for your time today. Thanks so much for having me.

You got it. And NATO is being tested, and hopefully, the strength is there for them to prevail. When you come back, talk about those hot spots with General Spalder. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

Hi, we are back. And with us, right, I'd argue that there's more hot spots in the world right now. as it relates to our national security than any time in my lifetime. Think about this. You have Vladimir Putin visiting North Korea and signing a mutual defense.

Pact, then going over to Vietnam. Then you have a Philippine uh Vessel being sandwiched by two Chinese vessels and then using machetes and knives, almost it was the days of the pirates, cut off a guy's finger. We have a defense pact to defend a security agreement with the Philippines, too. uh in Israel. We seem to be abandoning uh little by little Israel.

At the same time, they've never been under such threat, not only with Hamas trying to track them down, wondering what's next with Rafah, but at the same time, maybe a full out war with Hezbollah. The current situation cannot stand. And then you have what's happening over in Ukraine, where Vladimir Putin is using his evil allies to fortify his military machine to maximize the pressure on his neighbor that was invaded. U.S. Air Force Brigadier General Spalding joins us now.

General, thanks so much for being here. What's your take on Vladimir Putin? What did he accomplish in going to North Korea? What's the message you took from it?

Well, I think I would imagine that the North Koreans are sending them a lot of support for the war in Ukraine, and he just wants to basically give Kim Jong-un, you know, essentially kudos for doing that, and this is good for him. to show Yoputin going there.

So it's all about strengthening the relationship and continuing that support comes, continuing to make sure that support comes. Are we just observers? I mean, do we have anything we could do as he goes to Vietnam? Vietnam obviously worried about China. We've been making inroads with them.

Russia seemed to be warmly greeted by them.

Well, so I mean, I think the challenge is we haven't been willing to do those sorts of things.

So if you recall, during the Cold War, we isolated the Soviet Union. We forced our allies and partners to isolate alongside of us. And we made that a condition of our security arrangements. Um, since the end of the Cold War, we abandon all of those policies, and so. And that's what these nations, led by China, are exploiting, this fact that we no longer have a pact.

And I would say, you know, in this second, I'm calling it a digital Cold War, there's still nukes involved. It's highly cyber and information related and political warfare related. But China has taken the role of the Soviet Union. And all of the other players like Russia, North Korea, and Iran, are essentially proxies. to China for that.

And we have an isolated China And it's primarily because the folks that live in New York around you and the rest of corporate America have been lobbying DC not to.

So we have um We have the China right now in negotiations with us when it comes to some type of nuclear agreement. They're a new nuclear power. Why do we deal with Russia if China is going to have more nuclear weapons than both of us?

So do you think anything is going to come out of that? No, no, absolutely not. The Chinese have never been willing to negotiate around nuclear weapons. And quite frankly, if you look at their track record, every negotiation that they've ever made, they never honor. And that's consistent with just the way that they act.

You know, they make an agreement and then they systematically break it.

So, there's no way that you can trust them to honor any agreement you negotiate with them that does not have leverage built into the agreement. In other words, that there's a punishment that they actually feel and care about if they break the agreement. And unfortunately, Brian, we just don't understand the Chinese Communist Party enough to negotiate. We had guys during the Cold War like Kennan that actually knew what the Russians and what the Soviet Union was. We do not have those types of hard nose negotiators in Washington, DC anymore.

And quite frankly, all the think tanks have been co-opted by the Chinese Communist Party because they all go there, talk to the Chinese Communist Party, and if they don't, they're not considered experts anymore.

So I think that people are waking up to that. I mean, when Trump put tariffs on them, everyone was outraged. You don't really want to upset China. We got to bring Kissinger was always saying bring him into the family of nations, bring him into the WTO. And there's been a disaster.

I think that's changing for both parties. You don't think so? No, I think the rhetoric is changing, Brian, but I don't think that because. Washington, D.C. winds blow according to the U.S.

corporate sector and U.S. financial sector? No. And, you know, it took. in the during the First Cold War, it took somebody like Eisenhower to actually make those rules and laws stick.

Remember when he re he left the administration, he talked about the undue influence of the military industrial complex. And so that has been extended to the corporate and financial world in this post-Cold War era. Also, Franklin Roosevelt, you know, during World War II, faced the same kind of challenge. Challenges with the business community. In fact, it was going on during the Civil War.

You had guys and financiers in New York that were funding the South. during the Civil War.

So this is something that we have, and because we're a democracy, unless you have you institute the policies and rules and laws that force the corporate and financial sector not to do business with their enemies, they are going to enable and do business with their enemies. Unfortunately, in today's day and age, that means a lot of political influence gets in through those avenues. General Spalding, are you for when it comes to the Ukraine war, are you for no holes bar when it comes to the Ukrainians hitting the sites that are bombing them? Or are you for the limitations President Biden has put on them? I so I actually believe that we are closer to a nuclear war than we've ever been since.

since the end of the Cold War and maybe even during the Cold War, because I think we've lost our fear of nuclear weapons. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, it was about seventeen years From Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

So we still really had a fear of those weapons. We've lost all that fear, and I think that's a dangerous thing.

So uh So, what is your answer, though? I mean, are you for letting Ukrainians?

So, my answer is: any aid to the Ukrainians ought to be tied with. a work towards a ceasefire, towards an armistice. And I think that's the only that's the best we can hope for right now. We're going to have to essentially accept that for the time being, we have a divided Ukraine, much like we have a divided Korea, and then we hold out And it's really a long-term cold war. We want to keep the war cold, right?

that descriptor, cold, really applies to nuclear war, and we want to keep it cold. What we're not paying attention to is the potential for that war to turn hot. If it turns hot, I think, Brian, you understand the implications.

So you worry that if we look to get a peace agreement and Russia gets with basically what they want, they don't care about casualties, clearly, the message to China was would be, okay, you'll get some turbulence the first time we invade Taiwan, but after Taiwan, but after a year and a half, things will subside, it'll go back to normal. You worry about that message? No, I think here's what I've said very consistently. If we don't want a war in the Pacific, we have to issue an ultimatum, much like John Foster Dolas did at the Council on Foreign Relations in 1958 when he made the massive retaliation speech.

So if we don't want a war over Taiwan, we're going to have to message to the Chinese that we're willing to go to full-scale nuclear war to prevent it. Otherwise, it's going to happen regardless of what we what our what our policies are with regard to Russia and Ukraine. In terms of Russia and Ukraine, I'm not saying that we need to go for a peace deal. We don't have a peace deal in Korea. We have a ceasefire.

That's it. We have a negotiated ceasefire that's been fairly stable For several decades now, and that's something that's been managed. And you're gonna have to do the same thing with Ukraine, or we could push right up to the border of the Russians. and invite the chance that we go to nuclear war. That's not something that Truman wanted to do.

It's not something that Eisenhower wanted to do. I'm not sure why we would think that we're smarter than them.

Well, because there was a there was a uh There was a war. I mean, there was the. I mean the the the wall comes down The Cold War is over.

So, a lot of these nations, like the Baltic nations, they want to be part of NATO. We did it. Poland, we did it. And I guess Ukraine was on that track. And And that wasn't going to happen in Russia's eyes.

Right. And I would say that I'm not talking about any of the Baltic nations that have joined NATO. I'm talking about where we're at with regard to Russia and Ukraine right now. And then the other question is Taiwan. Basically, Brian, we have to decide what we're willing to lose or give up.

for this war uh i between Russia and Ukraine. I mean, Do we want to go to nuclear war? If we're willing to go to nuclear war over Ukraine, we were with Western Europe, then we have to let the Russians know that. Right. Somebody has to get up, like the president.

Or the Secretary of State, and say, if you do X, we will unleash hell. And that is the only way you're going to create the deterrent effect that we need to have a stalemate that existed during the First Cold War. And nobody's been willing to do that.

So I would I now let's go over to Israel. In a fit of temper, it looks as though the U.S., the Biden administration, has cut off talks with Israel as it relates to intelligence in Iran that shows they've got this computer program that allows them to, if we're to believe the reports, weaponize immediately and have a nuclear program there. And because we didn't like Netanyahu's tone when he said we've cut off or slowed down weapons deliveries, we've cut off talks. Does that seem smart to you? No, and quite frankly, all of these things are related, right?

So remember during the First Cold War, we understood kind of the chief antagonist Was the Soviet Union. We have to understand that China has a relationship with Iran as well. All of these nations Iran, Russia, North Korea, through their economic and financial lifelines, through China, they're able to continue to do the things that they're doing, even though we've tried to separate them. from the global economy. And that's our chief challenge.

Our relationship to China is actually feeding these challenges in the Middle East, in Europe, in Asia, because we're not we're unwilling to recognize China for what it is, which is the new Soviet Union.

Well, how you force secondary sanctions with China because they're buying oil from Iran? More than that, during the First Cold War, we had something called cooperative export agreement, right? Export controls. It was called COCOM. And COCOM basically said none of our allies and partners could do business with the Soviet Union.

I advocate bringing back COCOM and basically isolating economically and financially China. And her proxies. This is the only way that we can both protect our own society from influence, but actually have an opportunity to win this, what's going to be a long-term Cold War. Otherwise, they're going to continue to steal AI, they're going to continue to steal technology, they're going to continue to work with our businesses and financial institutions to undermine our own society and that of our allies and partners. And that's our challenge.

If we don't do the same things that we did with the Soviet Union during the First Cold War, China will win, and they are winning. And they're essentially, if you see what's going on, they're bankrupting us, right? They're forcing us to spend money in the Middle East. They're forcing us to spend money in Europe. And they're forcing us to spend money in Asia.

And the Philippines, the latest their latest antics, sandwiching a ship. We have a defense d agreement with them. What are they trying to do with the Philippines besides dominate the South China Sea?

Well, that's it. They believe, and they've issued a decree that they own the South China Sea in spite of the fact that their decree is against every international law. In fact, The Hague, the international court in The Hague, has said so. What China is doing within the Philippine EEZ is a violation of international law. They have said that.

But Chinese said, go to hell.

So, I mean, this is what's going on. They're systematically violating all the rules. And when you have, I mean, it's just, it's the same as New York City, right, or Chicago. If people don't follow the rules, it devolves into lawlessness. And that's what we have in the international order now, because China has emboldened all these other players.

Well, if nobody's gonna make China play by the rules, why should I? And China's going to back me up anyway. I want you to hear a military historian Victor Davis Hansen how he sees it right now. And it's not good. This is cut 25.

Putin sees he's trying to get nuclear proxies in Iran and North Korea to do what he thinks we're doing in Ukraine. And Ukraine is not nuclear. More importantly, he looks at Biden and he says either he's debilitated and he won't react, or the Obamas are in control. And I remember what they did in 2014 when I took the Donbass and the Crimea, and I remember the hot mic and so whatever it is, it's an open window for me. And then finally, Sean, it doesn't do any good to project this.

lack of deterrence after Kabul and the Chinese balloon and and not doing thing to the Houthis, and then to demonize. I mean, to call Putin constantly crazy SOB, thug, murder. And don't don't carry a twig and then shout out loud, you know, these these insults. It j it's very dangerous what he's doing. Yeah, and also when you talk about China, Putin's on the march the best he can, trying to tell people he does have friends, and they're evil.

They do a great job, perfect casting. But we also have this other story that's reemerging about China buying land on next to 19 U.S. military facilities in our country. What could you tell us about that, General Spalding?

Well, I mean, it's basically allowing them to put intelligence outposts within our country to collect information. By the way, landowners are very influential in local politics, so they're influencing our communities down at the local level. And, you know, we, again, we would have never let this happen during the first Cold War. By the way, you know, you played that quote with regard to Putin. What was Nixon hailed for?

He was hailed for detente with China to balance the Soviet Union. I would argue today that it's time to look at detente with Russia in order to balance the greater threat of the Chinese Communist Party. They have far more weapons, they have far more people, they have far more money, they have the industrial base because we gave it to them. We no longer have the industrial base. They are a far more potent and dangerous enemy.

Than the Soviet Union ever was. We've allowed them into our communities. They're in our social media. They're in our banks. They're in our corporations.

Think about if we would have done that with the Soviet Union, how dangerous it would have been. We would be speaking Russian likely now. Yeah, 24, don't forget the thousands that are coming across our southern border with rollerbacks. Exactly. Anything but refugees.

And we're letting them in, which is crazy. We got to wise up. That's what I take away from our interview here. Air Force Brigadier General Robert Spaulding, thanks so much. Thank you.

All right, when we come back, I'll take your calls the best we can. 1-866-408-7669. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmade.

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So you already stand to your feet. Let him hear you. He's listening. They've got the noise you can. That was Michael Mays asking a tribute to his dad, who said, You know what?

I'm not feeling too well. I don't know if I can make the game, but I'll be watching. Sadly, he passed away. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian?

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Thanks so much for being with us all week long. Got a big hour coming your way. Senator Shelly Moore Capito is standing by from West Virginia. She's been digging, digging hard into the. Inflation Reduction Act, which the president mockingly said, I had nothing to do with inflation, no kidding, about what is really being spent and what's not being spent and what's being done.

And Nicola Ambrose will be here talking about what's happening over in Maryland and with the Republican Party. Huge news. And that is that Donald Trump, since the conviction, has actually outraged the Democratic Party. The Republicans and their new staff, along with the former president, have now no longer have a fundraising deficit to the sitting President, which is stunning.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three.

So, Congress needs to act. Let's get that out there. Congress. can and should act. They can have a national standard, but until such time, we'll lead the nation in so many ways we've always done before.

No, you haven't, New York, but we'll just go with that. I do agree with what Kathy Hochul is doing. Momentum is building for parents and teachers to ban and stop the use of phones and social media sites. And I think it's great. Keep it out of the classroom, keep it out of the home until a certain age.

We're going to talk about this. Is this welcome in your house? Number 10. Trump did not help himself, you know, in 2020 when he was constantly interrupting Biden. He knows that.

He has said that to people. Trump and his folks are aware that they set the expectations too low for Biden, and Biden beat them. They're trying to avoid doing that now. 2024, the gap closing between Donald Trump's since Donald Trump's conviction. But the former president has raised so much money right now, he has now caught the Democratic Party.

We're now six days from the first debate, and we have strategies from the Democratic camp as to attack Donald Trump as unhinged, worse than ever, and something snapped. Number one. My sources verified the same thing. Both these people came from Venezuela. Both were arrested at the border in El Paso, one in May and one in March.

Just May, just entered. They were released by the Borbitro after their so-called vetting. The enemy within, allowing millions to come here illegally, have put average Americans under threat. More murders, more rapes, more slayings. And these aren't generalities, they're specifics.

They're now on the front page of newspapers across the country. Joining us now is Senator Shelley Moore Capito. She's on Appropriations, Transportation Committees, ranking member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works. Senator, welcome back.

First off, on illegal immigration, it's not my opinion. When you see some of these ugly stories that are coming down the pike, we got this 12-year-old who was raped and killed. in Houston. We got Rachel Morin, who was killed in Maryland. We found his killer we found her killer in Tulsa, been extranited back there.

She's a mother of five. And then we hear this other story That just came across that this Ecuadorian illegal immigrant charged with raping a 13-year-old happened right here in New York City, and the guy taped it. And it was citizens who arrested him. I mean, this was almost inevitable when you're this irresponsible at our border, don't you think? Absolutely.

And it's just jaw dropping, Brian, and thanks for having me on. I just think that the families that have been impacted here that you didn't even mention the drugs that are coming across, killing hundreds of thousands or thousands of people here in the United States, certainly in my state, it's really hit hard. But I I can't believe the administration, at the very least, you know, when you see somebody coming over from Tajikistan, hello, these people are, you know, have terrorists selled in their country. Why are you not Keeping holding them in ice for special for special vetting. When you see people coming from Venezuela, they've come over, and if you now we look back and they go, oh, yeah, they committed murder in their home country.

Now they're committing murder here. What's the administration doing? There's no deterrence, but there's also no vetting at the border. They're just, it's catch and release. And it's uh it's so harmful to us, and really it's It's it's more than disappointing.

It's It's shameful. It's shameful because I feel like it's such a disservice to the American public.

Well, you're not even saying, talking generically, we have 1,500 migrants from Tajikistan who are known to have crossed the border between October 2020 and May of 2024. We've gotten 500 over the last few months.

So here we go. Up until then, previous to has been about 26 over the last 14 years. That is a terror haven. That place is rubble. They only come here to create havoc.

There is no way we don't have any of their records. The answers should be no. But this is what the President has said. It's your fault for walking away from the bipartisan deal or not taking up his initial legislation when he first got in office. What's your response?

Well, the fact is the administration and the president himself took down Donald Trump's border policies, the remain in Mexico, building the wall, expedited detention and retention back to your own country. And also the so this is on him, there is no doubt. The numbers just exponentially go up. And now they have a system where they're not even really counting fully the amount of illegals that are coming across because they're parsing the numbers so they don't look so bad as we go into November. And so the president had a lot he could do with the executive orders or stick with what President Trump had been doing.

And then he comes back three and a half years later with an executive order, and you're like, you know, you could have done this. Three and a half years ago, if your heart was really in it.

Well, the other thing is, Senator Capital, the other thing, the only reason he even did that is because he wanted to get foreign aid. And you guys came back and said, Yeah, if you do something at the border, you didn't like the final product. President Trump didn't like the final product either, and said, Just wait, I'll do this the right way. And that's what they're trying to bludgeon you guys with. Numbers really haven't moved on that.

Well, there's two essential things that are really problematic here. There's the asylum claims, which don't get heard for seven to eight years.

So that's what these murderers are in on. They're on it. They say they're going to get harmed in their own country and then they come to our country and harm us. And so, you know, you can turn people around much more quickly if you enforce an expedited asylum. And then also on parole, they're just paroling people in, giving them work permits.

And then the next thing you know, they just melt into our vast country. Not to be heard or seen again. I read something that I don't know if this is true or not. I That one of the, I think it was one of the murderers in Texas, had a bracelet on, had a, you know, one of those crackers, but they only keep it on for 90 days.

Well why is that? Yeah. I gu I guess that I was just thinking and reading that story about what happened in Houston, you're referring to the twelve-year-old girl who was raped and killed. And that was because they they were supposed to turn up before that. Really?

So you shut it off? It makes no sense. Plus, if you're a criminal, You're there to skip when you're a rapist, you don't just become a rapist. You're there to create havoc and think you can get away with it, perhaps. But I want to talk about the debate on Thursday, at which time the President's going to mock the fact that.

Donald Trump never got infrastructure done. He never got a lot of the things done. He didn't do the Inflation Reduction Act. He never even wanted to, to be honest. You've been doing a lot of look into this huge bill.

That was passed and signed. Which they say now had nothing to do with inflation. You're finding a lot of waste. And a lot of money. Going to green energy.

and the activists around it. Right, right. And this is the climate funds that the EPA is putting out through the inflation, the so-called Inflation Reduction Act.

So what I found was when you start to look at these organizations that are touted in press conferences with administration officials, That When you look at this, like a climate justice alliance, for instance, fifty million dollars. They're anti-Israel, pro-Hamas. They have a picture of the bulldozer going through the fence in Israel on October 7th.

So they're celebrating that. They've been arrested in the heart building. for their pro-Palestinian protests. They are anti- Police. Honestly, I think they're anti American.

They're so extreme. And yet, this administration, in the name of green and the climate change, is giving them fifty million dollars.

Now you're going to tell me that, that money is not going to go into the pockets of these protesters to really, I think, go about looking for the destruction of Israel, but also To work on the destruction of our own internal country when you're advocating to defund the police. And that's just one example. We have other examples of these radical anti- or immigration groups, not anti-immigration, radical immigration groups that have possibly with partnership with Fordham University, $50 million, have a say over $50 million. And if you do any just cursory investigation of them, they're very radical, anti-ICE, anti-detention, anti-deportation. They lay in the street and disrupt traffic.

And so the administration is feeding. this frenzy of anti-Americanism that we see and protest that we see across the country. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Then we find out with the Inflation Reduction Act is one thing, which the President mocks the name, says, of course, it's not about inflation. Number two, we're also finding when I go into the infrastructure bill, nothing, no Internet's been extended to rural communities, even though there's millions of dollars set aside for it.

Eight terminals have been built in three years for electric cars and electric trucks. Eight terminals have How pathetic. Here's what's funny about that statistic. Not funny, ha ha, but the Environment and Public Works Committee, we oversee this. And we had testimony from the highway administrator, Shaylin Bott, asking about these seven.

With all this money that went out, these seven terminals. Guess what the private sector spills? Over 147,000 of them. We argued all the way through. Let the private sector do.

There's a profit margin, there's a profit here. Half the time these things are broken. There's nobody to fix them. And in a state like mine, you're not driving an electric vehicle very far here because, number one, you can't charge. Number two, it gets cold here and there's lots of mountains, so it just kills the charge on electric vehicles.

But yeah, in that sense, now on the internet issue. That money is getting ready to go out three years later. The one thing I will say, there is a measure in there to make sure the money's going to the right people because what we've had is overbuilt in the deployment of rural broadband. And in space like mine, we can't afford that. We still have places that have no service.

And so hopefully, when that money finally gets out the door, which should be in the next several months, We'll see every house connected. Senator, can you just explain to me this bureaucracy? Like, what takes so long? If you put somebody in charge of it, senator, governor, whatever it is, or you put a special person on there. Why can't one person just take control of it?

You hire private contractors, you get stuff done. Yeah, but you know, this administration doesn't want to hire. Private people, they don't believe that the private sector can do it better than government. That's A lot of the problem right there. Is that the administration wants to do it all through their bureaucracy?

Why? Because then it goes where they want it to go. They have more control over it. But in the case of this broadband, it could have been done much, much faster. The mapping was there.

The private sector. Knows who and how much connected certain people are, what kind of speeds, and all those sorts of things. I agree with you, it's way too slow. And then the longer you wait, the less farther it can go because everything's getting more expensive. Senator, who do you want to see the next majority leader to be after Mitch McConnell?

Stepping aside, I know they're talking about Cornyn wants it, Rick Scott wants it, we assume Jon Thune wants it.

Okay, here's the lay of the land. I'm not going to weigh in on that one way or the other, which you probably guessed that, but I will say this. They're all three very well liked. It's going to be a difficult choice, and so I don't think we're going to know. For sure until after the election, see what happens there.

But they all bring strength, and I like all of them. And so, I can't tell you who's got the edge there. And so, I'm just going to wait and see how things shake out as we get past November. Yeah, Senator Jim Justice, is that going to be what we're going to be calling him? No longer governor?

Do you think he's going to get it? Oh, yeah, he's my grandson. I was playing ping pong with him the other day, and he was course beating me. And he goes, This is like taking candy from a baby. Yes, Jim Justice will be the next senator, no doubt.

And he'll do a great job. I endorsed him in the primary. I'm glad he won. And we look forward to having him and baby dog over in the U. S.

Senate.

So would when I look at Tim Sheehy, I see a great candidate, but trailing. When I see Dave McCormick, I see a great candidate, but trailing. I see that Congressman Uh do you got uh a seat wide open in Michigan? Uh I am not sure Mike Rogers. Mike Rogers is trailing by a couple of points, two or three points.

I know he doesn't officially have. the nomination yet.

So, are you concerned that this is the year you guys have to take the Senate if you're going to take it, and that so far it's not clear you can?

Well, yes, I am concerned. I mean, obviously, we're at 50-50 because West Virginia will flip. And so then I think we have to really uh look at states like Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan. New Mexico, Montana. We have opportunities.

Um, and uh, Nevada is a good opportunity with uh Sam Brown. I just saw him last week, wonderful candidate.

So, I think the fact that you started your show with talking about how much more money the Republican committees are raising now, I think people are waking up to this, they realize that. the st the Senate is really critical. The House only has a one vote margin right now. I expect them to keep it, but it's going to be tough because they're in tough districts. And none of these states are easy.

Ohio is not easy. Pennsylvania, very difficult. But we have such Maryland, we have such good candidates.

So I think we will take the majority, but it's all got to fall in line, and everybody's got to work as hard as possible. But the candidates are really, really good. And President Biden and the Democrat Senate have handed us all kinds of great. Issues inflation. Um illegal immigration, crime, all of these things, I think, are part of what the this campaign will be about.

And a lot of times, people vote for who they want. A lot of times people vote again vote against who they don't want. And so I think you got we'll have a double a double there, a double we have a double strength there. All right. Yes, get the message out.

I know President Trump wants everything. If you got the job, he doesn't have the Senate, he's not going to get anybody confirmed. Senator Jellymore, Capito, thanks so much. All right. Have a good weekend.

Thank you. You got it. Meanwhile, Nicoli Ambrose coming up at the bottom of the hour. Your calls next. We're also following any Supreme Court decision.

Could come down any minute when it comes to Donald Trump's immunity. Don't move. Educating, entertaining, enlightening. You're with Brian Kilmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know.

It's Brian Kilmead. Says an individual, when they've been found by a court to pose a credible threat to the physical safety of another, that individual may be temporarily disarmed consistent with the Second Amendment.

So it sounds like that the court is saying essentially there can be times in which Second Amendment rights can be infringed.

So that was just a decision that just came across from the Supreme Court. There can be some limitations when it comes to the Second Amendment, especially if you're a convicted domestic abuser. And I think that's 100% correct. The question is when you're wrongly accused, that's the key. But that's where the justice system comes in.

So a lot of people say, you know what, it's always going to be ideologically driven. I think this was a 9-1 decision. 8-1. What am I saying? Yeah.

8-1 decision?

So here we go. We are waiting for the immunity case to be decided. Also, on the court docket is the President of the United States trying to get Jack Smith kicked off his case.

So Eileen Cannon is taking a look at this. The judge in that documents case said the case never should be brought. This guy's got to be eliminated. And people are angry because Eileen Cannon, the judge, said, Yeah, I'll listen. And that's happening today.

Other story in the New York Times saying, We told her she's too inexperienced to handle this case. That's nice. Can you imagine having this case and you have people below you telling you you're not worthy? Of course, you didn't give it up. We'll give you the latest.

Brian Kill Me Chill. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. What about if your name was offered as a possible replacement? Should something happen at the convention?

How would you feel about that? Do you think you're ready? I think that President Biden is going to, is not just the nominee. President Biden is the best candidate for the presidency, and it's the reason I'm supporting him and the reason that I look forward to engaging all throughout the campaign season to get him re-elected. All right, so that was a non-answer by Governor Wes Moore, who took over Larry Hogan, Democrat, African-American guy, extremely talented.

I don't care if you agree with one word he says or everything he says. He's got a lot of talent, very smart guy, and he wants to define himself by rebuilding the Key Bridge, the Francis Scott Key Bridge that was taken out. We still have a lot of questions about that. The waterway is extremely valuable. The question is: can he get the bridge out of the water and can he get that bridge rebuilt?

Joining us now is Nicolae Ambrose, the Maryland National Committeewoman with the RNC. Welcome back. Great to be here, Brian. Thanks for watching. Your thoughts about his answer.

Because people are talking about him, even though he just got the job as governor, they're talking about him as a presidential candidate.

So I hate to say it this way, but when the Key Bridge fell, I was like, he's going to use this to campaign for president. Absolutely. This will put him in the national spotlight, and he has taken that ball and he has run with it. Gavin Newsom has been falling on his face as the potential successor to Biden. 4% approval.

Exactly. Whereas Wes Moore is like, I'm new, I'm flashy, I've never been in politics before, I don't have much of a record, although he has completely undone all of the progress from Governor Hogan.

Well, he's also on Fox with me in the morning. I think it's great. He was also great to our reporters who are out there. And the other thing is. Kamala Harris had the same opportunity at the border.

Yep. One of the first jobs she had is like, hey, why don't you take over the border? She said, I don't think so. They go, you got to do something. I was well, I'm going to go to the root causes, so I'm not the border.

She rejected it. I've never seen anything like it. Right. So, didn't do anything. And Ron DeSantis had a disaster hit his state right before he re-election, I think.

And he got a bridge built and got everything hooked up almost right away.

So he took the challenge. The other thing is, just somebody that does it.

So, well, why are you using it?

Well, why are you showing up? Why you show up every day? Doesn't matter. Why are you moving the bureaucracy doesn't matter? I would like to see what happens then.

Now, can he build a bridge? He cleared the waterway. Can you build the bridge? And Will you keep it the Franciscan Bridge?

So, we have heard that there's a whole bunch of other names they want to call this bridge. How dare they honor the man who wrote our national anthem. But I have to tell you, it's the Coast Guard I just give complete props to. I was out with a Coast Guard placing the Franciscan buoy in the shadow of the Francisc Bridge as it was being removed. We sailed past the dolly that had been taken into the Seagurt port.

Long story short, I am concerned that Democrats' inaction and fiscal disaster in Maryland is going to slow this process. Process down rather than speed it up. In what way? First of all, we had Governor Hogan had left office in January of 23. He left the state with a surplus in better financial shape than we have been in in decades.

All that money is already gone. The state had difficulty agreeing on funds. Two. rebuild this bridge, to authorize for this bridge. We have infrastructure falling apart because the Democrats are spending it on lost social programs where help cannot get to the people, by the way.

We're spending Billions of dollars with no help getting to people, and we can't even maintain our infrastructure under Governor Westmore.

So, yeah, I mean, ultimately, he'll be judged by his record, which is good to see a young, talented politician. I think people need to look up to like look at people and say, you look at Bill Clinton. Oh, well, I agree with some of this stuff. I don't like his personal behavior, but no one says he wasn't talented. No one saw that George Bush was not personable.

It got himself experienced.

So, you might either disagree with him or disagree with him. But I think people are getting so disenchanted by the caliber of people that we're seeing. And even I'm at least brought Trump and Biden out of this for a second. I think that my impression of Westmore is this: that although he had no political record, what he is extremely talented at is the machine. Aspect of politics.

He's fantastic at figuring out ways to get his votes delivered. I cannot tell you anything about his track record as a manager of the bureaucracy in actually delivering real results for people. Very interesting.

So we'll see. The other thing that I think is interesting is Larry Hogan. Yep. So I've never seen the president so disciplined, the foreign president. Yes.

Because he said, when asked about Larry Hogan, he was so dumb of Larry Trump and Chris La Cevita, who came out because Larry Hogan said a jury decision should be respected after the Trump 34 indictments were issued. uh they're turned into convictions. I couldn't believe they attacked him. I said, what are you doing? And then when asked Donald Trump said, no, I endorse him.

And then, when asked, Larry Hoover goes, Well, I'm not voting for him.

So bring me the can bring me to inside baseball here.

So, the hope is, and I really was impressed by President Trump's handling of that situation. The point is. We need the base to turn out for Larry Hogan in Maryland, right? We need, even though Republicans might be, you know, approximately 30% of registered voters in the state, we have to have that base turn out for Larry Hogan. And so, by President Trump doing that, hopefully, he was trying to send a message that the base, even though they're very disenchanted with a lot of Larry Hogan's policy positions, still needs to vote for him because we would really like to have his vote in the U.S.

Senate.

And let's be honest. If he does say, you know, Donald Trump, we've had our differences, give me a hug. That's not working either.

So That's the problem. You can't be, you necessarily can't be anti-Trump. Just be ambivalent towards Donald Trump. Because I know how to run the state, I know what this state needs. That's got to be your answer.

Who handled a similar situation beautifully was Glenn Youngkin in Virginia, right? Trump essentially endorsed Youngkin, and Youngkin just kept going, right? And so, what did they have in Virginia? A great base turnout, plus all of the other swing voters who were so sick of what was going on in their state. And when you look at Maryland, we have Larry Hogan running against.

the Prince George's County executive, Angela Olser Brooks. She is a radical progressive. Sh they are both running to replace Ben Carden. Ben Cardin might be a Democrat. He might be, you know, a long You know, long term.

His whole career has been spent in politics, but you could at least count on Ben Cardin to be good on issues like Israel, right? He was a Jew himself, active in the community. Right, right. You could count on him for some basic things to keep America safe and protect our allies. If Angela Olson Brooks wins that seat, we will have at least a 20 to 30 year Progressive in office who will vote along the lines of the squad.

Because once he's in, you don't think he's going to lose. Absolutely not. All right, I want you to hear. Let's talk about the debate. Yes.

I want you to hear what Van Jones said on CNN about the stakes on Thursday's debate, Cut 14. This is the entire election as far as I'm concerned. the entire world will be watching. There i i if you have if if you are a carbon based life form, you're going to be watching. If you've got a functioning brainstem, you're going to be watching.

Because if Biden goes out there and messes up, It's game over. If he walks out there and a week later, he's lower in the polls. It's panic in the party. But if he goes in there and he can handle himself against Donald Trump, a runaway train, a locomotive, a raging bull, then this guy deserves another shot to be president because that is tough. You couldn't do it.

I couldn't do it. If you can stand toe-to-toe with a runaway train like Donald Trump for an hour and a half, you are fit to be president, period, point blank. This is the whole presidency in a bottle in a week. What do you think?

So who would have thought I would ever agree with any part of what Van Jones says? But I do.

So I think the Democrats very intentionally agreed to this debate at this time.

So if Biden crashes in Burns, they have time. For a last-minute change up at their convention. Historically, though. Biden was actually a really good debater. This is not a smart man, but that was one of his skill sets.

You know, if you think back to the vice presidential debate against Paul Ryan, he has performed very well in debates historically. The question is: given his state of cognitive decline, can they hype him up for For the debate. He might do well at first. I have difficulty imagining him making it through the full debate.

Well, they have a lot of rules that could go his way in theory. That is, no interruptions, no audience, 90 minutes, two breaks, there is nobody allowed to be around you. Evidently, there was a coin toss, and he chose. The stage-right podium, and then Trump says, I'll speak last.

So that was his.

So there you go.

So these two little nuances up on the end. I actually think that these rules that Trump accepted, and I can't wait to get the backstory on this, why he accepted it, but rules he accepted are actually going to work for him, even if he didn't realize it then. Because I don't think you need to interrupt. Because if you think about Marjorie Taylor Greene and think about some of the shout-outs that happened during a State of the Union, which, by the way, I never think are right. I never love it.

I hate the lack of decorum. It's not England in the afternoon. This is once a week the world's watching. He got back on track by giving a one-liner back. He was losing himself in that copy.

Yes. So he is going to attack. He's going to go on Donald Trump. He's going to say this guy is unhinged. He lost.

Something snapped after it's already written.

Something snapped on January 6th, and his presidency was a failure. And Trump would have interrupted right after he said failure, he would interrupt him.

Now he's going to keep it quiet. Quiet in theory. Is it going to come back? Failure?

Well, you know, there's 60%, 62% of the people said my four years are better than your four years, number one. Number two, what was the failure? The border, what was the failure? Lack of war in Europe? What was the failure?

Abraham Accords in the Middle East? What was the failure? China trade deal? What was the failure? The redoing the NAFTA USMCA?

Please point to me where you failed, because you have the world in flames and our economy on fire in the wrong way, as in burning down. including inflation. But I don't know if he would ask that because sometimes he gets offended to President Trump and will just react wrong. That's not true. You're lying.

I mean, I want Trump to go on the offensive when it comes to this. Hey, Joe, can you look in the camera and apologize for four years ago when you said you had nothing to do with the president, your son's business dealings? Golfed with him, went to lunch with him, went to dinner with his partners. You called into the Ukrainian deal, and then you traveled with him to China and he was on there. And by the way, the laptop's real and you knew it when you looked into the camera, right?

Exactly. But do with a smile. Exactly. I totally agree with you because what most turns out Swing voters or turns off swing voters related to Donald Trump is the decorum issues, is the interrupting, right? Is the kind of the brashness that they can't handle.

And those rules. Have to necessitate decorum.

So I absolutely think this will play very well with him for swing voters. It will allow him to focus on policy and focus his comments better. And right, you're right. The world could not be more wrong. And how does Joe Biden refute it?

And every time Joe Biden does refute it, he just looks out of touch and clueless. Right. I want you to hear what Kevin O'Leary said: CUD 13. But I think we should address the 5,000 elephant pound elephant in the room. This debate, I don't understand why it's happening.

If I were Biden and the polls are closing, I wouldn't do this debate. I wouldn't even take the risk. Because unless he's very sharp in it, this could be very costly. And I think that's what people are talking about. And given that he may default in anyways, because you're going to vote against Trump if you don't like him, and I get that.

And if you're an independent, you don't like Trump, you'll vote for Biden. But Biden has a lot of guts to do this. And Team Biden must be saying, we've got to show up and we've got to perform. See, I actually don't agree with him. I appreciate his opinion.

I don't think he has a choice because he's got to wipe out the people that think that he doesn't have the ability to do it. Right. And this goes back to my point. I think it's a twofold issue. One, the Democrats want him to prove he can make it through this before their convention, hence the timing, right?

This is way earlier than we've ever had a presidential debate before conventions. This is unheard of, right? But secondly, I think this is where the Biden family's Stubbornness and how insular they are is really a disservice to them and to America, right? I look at someone like Jill Biden and I say, You know, you knew back in 2019 what bad shape your husband was in then. And as his wife, she should have said, Joe, you know, you were a great vice president.

Let's move on. But no, she, because apparently they're so power hungry and determined, you know, to sit at 1600 in Pennsylvania, the whole family has pushed him. And I think the more critics go after them, the more insular they become. He enjoys the job. I mean, you know, George W.

Bush, as crazy as it was, they enjoyed the job. I remember when Bush 41 felt like he said, I feel like I'm bouncing on the couches. I feel like a little kid. I never seen a guy smile. He never wants to talk to the press.

He never wants to have a press conference. He never wants to sit down for an interview. Has wise-ass remarks when people ask him challenging questions instead of embracing it. You kind of, if you're president, you got to want those. Sure.

You got to want that spot. If you believe in what you're doing, Doing? Come on, tell me. I'll tell you exactly what the Inflation Reduction Act is. I'll tell you exactly why I only have eight terminals instead of 800.

So let me know.

So I want you to hear this. The big story on the left that has people alarmed is President Trump has between 20 and 30 percent of the black vote in almost every poll. Listen to what Jim Clyburn said. I don't think it needs to do anything with what he's doing. I think Joe Biden is doing exactly what he needs to do to win reelection.

I think the polling is taking place.

Something is amiss with the polling. I call your attention to the recent polls over in Maryland. The African American woman running for the United States Senate nomination, the Sunday before the election, one poll had her five down, the other poll had her seven down, and she won by thirteen. How do you explain that? That's twenty points.

Yeah. Your thoughts?

So Maryland has uh some significant issues, including the day before our Primary election, the State Board of Elections and the Attorney General. Issued guidance that our Board of Elections members weren't allowed to observe our elections and be there, which is a complete violation of their duties in the law.

So we got that straightened out by about 10:30 that morning. But I also can't find a single person in Baltimore City who voted for Mayor Brandon Scott, and I happen to live in Baltimore City.

So we have a lot of margin for error, let's just say, and it's really important that we. This is both in Maryland and across the nation, this election cycle, folks, we have got to have people just number one voting, but two, participating in just basic election integrity processes. Sign up to be an election judge. Sign up to be a poll worker. It is only when you're there being that pleasant, happy warrior with a strong backbone, making sure things are running right and that people can, the machine counts are at zero and one person gets one vote.

And if someone shows up to vote and was told they already voted when they certainly have not, these are things that have to be reported. We have to deal with lawyers right away. And both for the presidential election, for Senate and House races across the country, it is just critical that we get people to. Oversee this election. Nickelie Ambrose, thanks so much, Maryland National Committeewoman, working hard to get Republicans elected in a very blue state.

Thank you. Great to be here. Back in a moment. Learning something new every day on the Brian Killmead Show. Radio that makes you think.

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Now we get to see, you know, some of our greats who played there and get some of their history. That is Ken Griffey Jr. talking about the historic game at At Hickwood Field and that field And that field is special because it's where Willie Mays played, where it's the oldest stadium in the country existed, where Negro League's crowds, Rickwood's foiled, I should say, where those crowds thrived.

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Thanks so much for listening all week long. We have a big hour coming your way. We're now phoning it in. We've got Shannon Bream standing by waiting for the next. And we hope there's another Supreme Court decision.

Maybe there's not. We're all looking for that immunity case and where they stand in presidential immunity. I'll give you an example: Dill Lehman's term. Obviously, I haven't spent any quality time in law school, but. The President of the United States gets us into a war in Iraq.

And he goes in there and it turns out there's no weapons of mass destruction. And you're one of these families in Iowa, and you lost your son. You feel like, even though he didn't, you feel like George W. Bush lied to you.

So you can assume. You assume Joe Biden undid all The executive orders that Donald Trump did and got rid of all his systems at the border, allowing 7.4 million gotaways, millions more just to get in over the last three and a half years, one of which. Uh raped and killed your daughter. Like just happened yesterday, this 12-year-old. over in Houston, Texas.

I'm going to sue them. You really can't do that.

However, If you were President of the United States and you got a gun, And you're a little upset. You see some guy, you have a situation where you have a political opponent. And you arranged for him to be murdered.

Well, I'm present. I'm immune to all this stuff. Or actually pulled the trigger myself.

Well that wouldn't work. Does anyone think that'll work? No. But where's the line? Joining us now is Shannon Bream, getting set to host Fox News Sunday, where I know one of her guests will be Senator Lindsey Graham.

That's all I'll say. Shannon, welcome back. Great to be with you, Brian. Live from the Supreme Court. If you get a little ambient noise, you know, we're just among the people.

We're talking, we're learning. Just so you got time. What do we learn so far?

So we're done for the day. We got five opinions today. There was only one on our watch list, which had to do with guns and whether if somebody's subjected to a domestic violence order, whether you can temporarily take their gun away from them. eight to one, the court said yes, if there is you know, proof that somebody is a danger to someone else's safety that temporarily you can impinge on the Second Amendment rights. But that leaves fourteen more, including immunity, including the January sixth obstruction charges, including abortion, all kinds of things for next week.

Do you think the decisions are not done? Is that the problem? Or are they just deciding when to release them? No, the chief has always told us when they are done, we put them out the door, which means he's still they're really wrestling with things. If they haven't even given us another opinion day until Wednesday, normally the last week of the term when they've got stuff jammed up like this, they add Monday or Tuesday.

They're not even ready for whatever's coming next until Wednesday.

So I would guess they're going to do Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. They've got to add some days next week to get 14 done before the end of the term. Are they going to work over the weekend? Oh, heck yeah. I know for sure that they are.

I have had some discussions with people who say that they have no plans this weekend because they are furiously trying to get this stuff done. I mean, you know, they get assigned deadlines for: hey, if you're writing a concurrence, if you're writing a dissent, we've got to have it because those things all have to be circulated before the opinion can be done. And, you know, we all remember the Dobb leak a couple of years ago. They were very tight about how these things are done. And, you know, the printing press is inside the building.

None of this goes outside. And so when they're done, they're done, they say.

So a couple of things that I know you're going to be discussing over the weekend, and it's just one horrific story after another. First off, two Venezuelan migrants charged with abducting and strangling a 12-year-old girl in Houston, Texas. We look at the background, they were stopped. They were given GPS trackers, at least one of them was, so they can monitor them, come back within 21 days.

Well, these guys have come in from Venezuela, obviously horrible, horrific consciousless criminals, and they kill. And now these guys are both under arrest. And we know about Rachel Morin's story. They caught his killer drinking in Tulsa and brought him back at a bar, university. They brought him back to Maryland, where he'll be tried for the death of this mother of five, Rachel Morin.

And then we wake up to this other story that we've had over the last few days here in New York, where this illegal immigrant rapes a 13-year-old girl and tapes it and was wrangled by other New Yorkers who recognized the sketch thanks to the 13-year-old and was able to wrangle this guy and bring him to justice. These are all illegal immigrants who have no business here who faked asylum, who show the system is broken and cities aren't safe. How do you spin that any other way, Shannon?

So I mean, and the thing is, we know the vast majority of people coming here want a better life. They're not doing this. But the Porus Border allows bad actors to get here. But for the border being opened, these people being deported, brought back, released in. These crimes would not have been committed.

These people would not have been raped. They would not have been killed. I've got a close family friend who was in a terrible DUI wreck hit by somebody who was here illegally. The guy got a slap on the wrist, did not get deported and had another wreck that injured someone else.

So I mean, this is real life stuff that's happening. And you've got people out there like, oh, you're just fearmongering. Like, no, these are real things that are actually happening. And if you had the ability to close the door so that the people weren't here, those crimes would not have happened. Those people would still be alive.

Oh, there's no question about it. Here's what Tom Holman said: cut two. I want people to know something though. I want you to think about this. Not only is the little girl dead, but take a moment and think about what her last 15, 30 minutes was like.

Terrified little girl fighting for her life. They stole the most precious thing from a little girl, then they killed her. Think of what she went through for 30 minutes. The same with Lake O'Reilly and Rachel Moran and that little girl in New York City. This is just not a crime.

It's the most vicious crime imaginable, and it's because this administration will not secure the border. And that you know, what they're going to come back and say, and they're going to say it Thursday night, well, we had bipartisan legislation. It wouldn't have affected any of this. And number two is the problem with I here, Shannon, in breaking this down as discretion. You know what they said when they came in?

I fear if I go back to Venezuela, I will be killed. And that's enough to say, I need that. I'm a refugee. I can stay until my hearing. And that's the problem.

Well, and we've got programs that are flying people directly into our country from places where they say they have fear.

Okay, do you know, and I know you know, the list includes places like Switzerland, the Bahamas, Germany. Why are we importing people into this country en masse paying for their flights here? Not to mention the people who show up at the border and saying, like, ah, yeah, we just don't have enough to process you. You can just go ahead and go in. From places, again, like Tajikistan, the eight guys that were picked up a couple weeks ago, these are countries that are on the warning list for us.

We know they are not good actors, many of the people who emanate from these places when it comes to how they feel about the United States. We've got tens of thousands of special interest aliens that come from these high-risk countries that are simply released into the country because they come and say, I'm afraid of something at home. There has got to be a better way to screen. You have to wait somewhere else. There are things that can be done to keep people from doing these crimes because these are horrendous.

Every single case. Turns your stomach, you're just devastated for these families. And like Tom Holman said, I cannot imagine, and this will haunt those families about the final moments of their loved ones. But it's not only that, in addition to that, we have terror threats. You know, FBI Director Christopher Wray has said the lights are blinking red.

It feels like the lead up to 9-11, and that he's never seen more threats more elevated at any time in his career. And we have a border that's allowing hundreds of thousands, millions of people into this country that we do not know their full story.

So just to understand, Tajikistan is a terror hotbed. It's just nothing but rubble. More than 1,500 Tajiks are known to have crossed the border between 2020 and 2024. Do you know the previous fourteen years? We had 26.

Right. What about the Chinese? We have tens of thousands of Chinese here with rollerbags. They're not coming through the Darien Pass. And Griff will tell you this.

You guys share an office, not an office, but you share a bureau. We did one time. Yeah, Malusian will tell you. You can't get a straight answer why they're coming through the border, but we know there's been 19 separate military bases with Chinese owners on them, but we don't know if they're going to go there to spy.

So, a quick legal question. We know the former President of the United States is trying again with his legal team to oust Judge Ergeron, who did his civil case, his civil judgment against him, because he talked to somebody about the case before and got advice from that person. Alina Haba talked about it, Cut 23. This attorney, Mr. Bailey, went on TV bragging about the fact that he had spoken with the judge that was sitting on our case, Judge Ngoran.

The judge had not issued his final decision on this case. And this attorney, who has sued Trump Sean more than six times, has now gone up to a judge sitting on an active case and spoken to him about the case. That is not allowed. He never notified the parties. Not allowed.

This goes way beyond anything else that we already know. And it gave us another reason to say, yet again, you need to step down. That's one of the challenges today. Do they have a does that dog hunt? I mean, they can.

They can try and they can file and they can appeal to other courts and judicial boards, all these kinds of things, but you know, the problem is it takes time. Because what ultimately ends up happening is even if they are vindicated on these things, six months, nine months, a year, two years down the road, if the Bragg case on the 34 hush money counts is overturned, I mean, if any of those things happen, it's well beyond when the election is going to happen.

So it may benefit the president legally. And listen, he has to be careful of the legal trouble he's facing, but it doesn't help in the minds of voters. And if, you know, a year from now, say the Bragg conviction got overturned, you know, what would you say to people who said, yeah, I couldn't vote for a convicted felon? And they could use the term convicted felon all throughout the debates and everything else. I mean, they have to be careful with it now because Hunter's also a convicted felon.

But, you know, I mean, the fact is those things may not be overturned in time for them to make a difference, at least when it comes to the election. The hearing in the Trump documents case on Mar-a-Lago. Judge Cannon is going to hear both arguments to get rid of Jack Smith and toss the case. Your chances that Cannon says, yeah, let's end this? I don't think they're good for the Trump team.

I don't think that she's just going to say, oh, we're getting rid of this thing. But she has a lot of power. This is what judges do. And for people who say, ah, she's delaying and everything's wrangling, this is what defendants do. They file motions to try to help themselves in defense of their case.

So, you know, it's proceeding. And if people want to talk about things being too slow, I mean, what's happened here at the Supreme Court with the immunity issue is basically rocket docket for them. I mean, normally cases take years to get here. The fact that this one got here within a matter of weeks had been briefed and argued, and now we await the opinion. People who want this thing to hurry up because they want it to be bad for President Trump, that's just not how the legal system works.

And I suspect Judge Cannon is not going to speed up anything beyond what she would do with a regular calendar. What about this big push to get rid of her? I mean, I find it very insulting. These lower judges deciding that she doesn't have the experience. You see these stories.

Yeah. Senate confirmed, and you're on the job. You've been approved and you've been confirmed that people think you are ready to take on that job as a federal judge. Yes, people are going to have more experience than you. And we don't know if she's talking to other judges who are more experienced to say, you know, how would you handle XYZ?

We don't know about those conversations, but very interesting that people felt it necessary to leak that story about how, oh, we're cautioning her. She's doing things out of the ordinary. She doesn't know what she's doing. She's, you know, it raises more questions than it answers about why that story was leaked. All right, Chan, I know you got to get back to work.

So, who's going to be on your show on Sunday? We're going to show live from the Supreme Court. We have got two members of the Judiciary Committee, Senate Judiciary Committee: Democrat Chris Kuhn, Republican Lindsay Graham.

So we'll talk about all the cases that are pending, and we've got Jonathan Turley and Tom Dupree to break that down, too. We'll talk about the brave prep with our panel and a lot of foreign policy, too. Do you have a question for me? What do you got on Saturday night? Oh, thank you.

It came so impromptu and off the hip. Saturday night, we're going to cover some of the president's speech live. We think he's going to bleed right into our hour. And I'm going to have Governor Sununu and Governor Huckabee standing by, then you, you at finishing up. And then we got an interview with Kenny Albert to talk about all the big stories in sports from what happened at Hickock Field, Willie Mays passing, Jerry West passing.

So a reason to watch. Sadly, you can't go out and date unless you're going to date early Saturday.

Well, you know, I've got company in town. And when they said they were coming during the last two weeks of SCOTUS, I said, you're welcome to stay here, but I will not be able to entertain you. Right. That's all up to Mr. Bream this weekend.

That's good. You know what? I appreciate the honesty if that was in that situation. I understand. I mean, you got to keep it real.

By the way, I'll see you at 6 p.m. tonight, sitting in for our esteemed colleague, Brett Bear, at 6 p.m. on Special Report.

Okay. Brett's off tonight. Shannon Bream is in, working triple duty. Thanks so much, Shannon. See you later.

All right. Bye-bye.

So don't forget, Saturday night at 9 o'clock is One Nation, and Fox News Sunday will choose Sunday morning, depending on what affiliate you're watching. And when we come back, your turn and the bottom of the hour, one of the smartest guys in Washington that'll be going back to the White House if Donald Trump wins, Robert O'Brien, former National Security Advisor. Don't move. Giving you everything you need to know. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. The most remarkable scene that I saw was someone smashing the windows of the doorway of Hamilton Hall in with a hammer, almost like a scene from The Shining. And I also saw a student who was trying to prevent them from barricading, continuing to barricade the doors. And then he was essentially corralled by another human chain of pro-Palestinian protesters and basically lifted up and shoved out and called a Zionist.

And he was physically assaulted. People are climbing through the windows from the street. People that are presumably non-affiliates climbing into the windows of a dormitory building, actually. It's John J. Dorm.

And they're climbing through the windows and coming onto campus and presumably joining the protest.

So Columbia has completely lost control of its gates. No kidding.

So you saw that vicious attack on that building, the takeover of the building. The cops had to go in there, they wouldn't come out. The janitors were held against their will for hours.

Well, 30 people were picked up, they were rounded up, and they got appearance tickets, and they finally showed up in court. At which time they should have gotten jail time. Instead, all were told: if you just behave yourself, You're free. Then they have an arrogant press conference after, demanding Colombia divest again from Israel. Don't go to a different school.

That's their investment policy. It's transparent for all to see. And don't go jumping onto this bandwagon. You faculty that are training these people should be ashamed of yourselves. But most of all, Alvin Bragg, you should be embarrassed.

Embarrassed to jail a seventy four year old accountant with the Trump organization twice at Rikers Island. While telling these 30 people who defiled public property. And you heard everything that these eyewitnesses said. And you let them all out. That's what drives people absolutely insane.

Millions of dollars to try President Trump. On some paperwork error that's a misdemeanor that would have been maybe a fine if found guilty. You str you bootstrap it and you make it a felony. You drag us through six weeks of ridiculous Intamural-like legal action, you get your 34 convictions, you take a bow, well, the city's aflame. Remember what's happening in Uptown?

You see this. Rape of a 13-year-old by an illegal immigrant. You have uproars in Queens, New York, with three beds for 3,000 men of illegal immigrants here being housed, waiting for their desk appearances in the middle of this beautiful working-class area in Brooklyn, in Queens, New York, and Staten Island, too. Staten Island got their way and the others. These are real problems.

Would you watch with Trump? Trying to take all his money from his company. this lunatic je uh this accuser, Jean Barrick Carroll or whatever, Jean Jean Carroll, who says that she was uh assaulted by President Trump, just doesn't remember the year and wins twice.

So You see all this stuff with these court systems and the unanimous decision of the thirty-four counts. This is how justice is done in this country, why I'm still encouraged. Because President Trump raised $104 million. in May, way past the eighty five million that Joe Biden raised. That's with George Cooney and Barack Obama's fundraiser and the big thing with Terry McAuliffe and the Clintons over the other days.

Now Trump is even with the Democrats And they're super PACs. right now, heading into the first debate on Thursday. At which time we understand Trump is working on policy, and it looks like Joe Biden is going to have a he focus grouped and poll tested this attack plan. Get ready for it. Here it is.

Donald Trump snapped after he lost in 2020. Donald Trump's presidency was a complete failure. We're going to remind people of that. Donald Trump is unhinged and the world hates him. And he's only out for himself.

This is what they poll tested. This is what they focus grouped expected.

Now if I'm Trump, I smile. I'm gonna go, you know what really matters? Inflation's 9%. Gave it to you 1.2. Know what really matters?

We broke the border. People are dying being raped and losing their lives. Know what really matters? The Middle East is in flames. I gave you the Abraham Accords.

Western Europe's under attack. I gave you something I armed Ukrainians. You stopped the last weapon chip. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead.

What do they cancel? They cancel a meeting on Iran because we have new information that Iran could be weaponizing. They enriched uranium into a nuclear weapon.

So, of all the things you're going to throw a temper tantrum on, it is what we're going to do to stop Iran from having nukes. It is just. Asinine bad policy after bad policy. And meanwhile, you have what's, we hate. Florida hurricanes, you have us going from a Cat 1 to a Cat 5 hurricane in terms of this axis of evil between China, Iran, Russia, and North Korea.

Uh and you've got a president that's just asleep at the switch.

So, what Congressman Michael Waltz, former Green Beret Armed Services Committee, is saying. Probably he's gonna probably run for governor of Florida, by the way. Is this report out that Iran's got this new computer program? I know it sounds 1980 saying this, but that's going to allow them to immediately weaponize their uranium and start getting nuclear weapons. And we have the intelligence, but because we're mad at Benjamin Etanyahu, we called off the meeting.

I can't tell you how juvenile that sounds and is. And then you talk about Russia meeting with North Korea, working at a deal, working at a drone deal, and more with Iran revitalizing their military base, as well as the no-holes bar relationship now with China that ended with the visit to Vietnam. Not the world that Robert O'Brien left off as national security advisor with Donald Trump. In fact, the last thing they would do is getting hostages back, and the last thing he was doing was finishing off the Abraham Accords. And now all hell is broken loose.

Robert O'Brien, welcome back. Great to see you with me, Brian. Thank you. Look, we knew that North Korea and Russia North Korea wouldn't have survived the Korean War without Russia's help. Obviously, China's too.

So we know these communist countries have a relationship. But they basically mainstreamed them over the last two years. Your thoughts about what it means. Yes, they're all taking it to a new level. And what we have to understand is they may have different interests.

Like China once ru territory back that the Russians took in eighteen sixty. Iranians are are m messionic, uh you know, Shia fanatics. And have traditional agreeances with the Russians. The North Phillians are like the the sopranos take over our country. The Kim family runs like a mafia place.

So they're not being exactly the same, but the one interest that they all have in common is getting rid of the US because we stand in the way of them achieving their goals.

So they've come together in a big way that we've never seen before, ever. to to push the United States out of the leadership of the world and and weak and it's the time when America's w leadership is weakest it's ever been. I mean, We would whoever thought now we look back at the Jimmy Carter years as the good old days, but that's how it looks right now. But it this way, if you guys were in power, I would say the same thing. I would say, Robert, it looks like a disaster.

I don't know how much would be preventable, but it's a disaster. I mean, almost Europe is now we have a war in Europe, first time since the forties. We have an all-out war with the good guys and bad guys. We're trying to get the Ukrainians to survive by slow walking weapons and limiting where they can hit. in order not to escalate.

And in the Middle East, we have Hezbollah and Iran. Israel may be a couple of days away from all out war. Israel can't have the current situation exist. And Sinwar thinks he's winning because he's surviving in Gaza. I mean, this is if you get, if Trump wins and he's going to call on you and you go back there, this is beyond difficult.

No, this is 1938 level. I mean, you you laid it out perfectly, Brian. Think about this. We've had a war of conquest in Europe for the first time since 1938 since Hitler took Sudetenland from the Czechs. And Putin thinks he's like a Hitler, he can just conquer his neighbor because he's bigger and stronger.

And get more territory than kind of like Liebensraum, like the old German territory idea of just. Living space by conquering their neighbors. In the Middle East, we had the biggest massacre of Judaism. I was just in Israel. You met with Ebenezer and Yahoo.

Benny Gans from President Heritz Hogan. We had the biggest massacre of Jews, civilians, not military. This wasn't a a military operation, was it? Operation that slaughtered civilians who have had since World War II since the Holocaust. And now we've got you know, China, everyone says, is ready to go into Taiwan at any moment.

So we've got a very extraordinarily dangerous situation that's crying out for American leadership. And I I wrote a piece in Foreign Affairs that talking about pieces of strength. you know, I wish that the Biden the Biden folks would take it up and and change. Not that I I don't want to win the election. I'm a strong supporter of President Trump, as you know.

you know, at the end of the Jimmy Carter years after the Russians went into Afghanistan, Dig Brzezinski and Harold Brown, Secretary of State of Defense at the time, and even Jimmy Carter, who had been a naval officer. Realized things were bad and started rebuilding the American military in the last year of the Carter administration. It was too little, too late. But at least they understood that America had to be strong, and we we were not seeing that in the Biden administration. Where's Tony Blinken and Jake Solving now?

telling the president, you know, we we gotta we gotta change course. One of the quotes you have is from George Washington: quote: If we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known that we are at all times ready for war. And if we just shut it down, start building up a military base, begin to sell weapons to our allies, the 32 allies that we have in NATO that seem to understand now the threat they're under, we start giving Israel the weapons, many of which they can pay for, arming our allies like the Philippines and getting them ready for war. We are now treaty obligated to defend them should China continue to ramp it up, and most of all, get Taiwan ready to defend itself. And we could do this while making a profit, couldn't we, Robert O'Brien?

Absolutely. And it's paradoxical, Brian. You pointed out that perfectly Preparing for war is the best way to get peace. I mean, being tough, being showing strong American leadership, showing that we're ready to defend ourselves, that deters war. That stops the war from happening.

When we run around talking about we don't want to escalate, we don't want to give Ukraine the Polish MiGs because that might be a red line up because get Putin upset. You know, we don't want to upset Sinhoar. I mean, look at what's happening in the Middle East with with Hamas. They're they're like ISIS. They're in fact they're worse than ISIS.

They the atrocities they committed made ISIS look like a picnic. And yet we're we're we're negotiating with them. They they're holding American hostages, Brian. In Hamas' possession, and they haven't given him back to us. And we're treating them like they're some sort of NGO.

We're treating Sinoir like he's some sort of Nelson Mandela figure. I mean, he's got he's as bad as Bakir Al Benghazi, who we took out in the Trump administration and ended ISIS and Showed the world what would happen if you if you killed Americans like Caleb Mueller and Jim Foley and Sotloff and and Kasich. We'd come for you, there'd be justice. Ronald Reagan showed that when the PLO was hijacking airplanes, he said you can run, but you can't hide. Where is that now?

Sinoir is hiding, he's not running. The more Isra Palestinian civilians get k killed by the Israelis, the better he looks. I mean, this is the it's six it's six stuff. It is.

So let me ask you: what is the problem with Netanyahu and Biden? And some of it, and Obama, too. Obama is a, you know, he's 40 years old. He gets in office. The only thing he knows is he hates Netanyahu.

And the only thing Joe Biden knows, he keeps saying that, oh, I can't trust this guy. How come you guys had no problem with him? Joe W. Bush, I never knew that he complained about him at all. And this administration has a problem with him.

What is the deal? Can you bring us inside these talks and these relationships?

Well It started with Obama, and what happened, Brian, is that they believed they want to manage American decline, and they realized America can't do everything on its own, which we can't. We need our friends and allies. But instead of being strong and needing to get alliances, they've ho hot We want to turn over different parts of the world to different leaders in different countries. And they look at the Middle East and they look at Iran and they say, you know, Iran's a big country, a big power long civilization. They hate us, but we must have done r something really terrible to them for them to hate us so much.

So let's turn over the middle east start round and score into the JCPA and Morgan's money. And if we apologize enough and we give enough money, They'll like us.

Well, news flash. The Iranians aren't that into us. The only foreign policy accomplishment Obama had during his whole eight years Was the nuclear deal with Iran, which basically said they attack nukes after 10 years, they can become a nuclear power. a terrible deal. Wor worse the deals diplomatic deal since Munich.

And the Biden folks came in, it's all those same guys who negotiated the Iran deal the first time, they all came back. And they said, We gotta get get together and do our do our ann deal again. But here's here's here's the problem with it, Brian. It's not just that Iran could wipe out uh Israel with a nuke or threaten our European allies or threaten our our allies in the region, it's gonna lead to nuclear proliferation because Society's not going to sit by and let the Iranians get up on them. The UAE's not going to sit by him at the side of the Iranian's gonna bomb.

Turkey's not gonna be Not have a bomb. Egypt, the biggest Arab country in the world, isn't gonna, believes it's the leader of the Arab world, isn't gonna not have a bomb.

So we're gonna have all these countries racing for nuclear weapons, and some of them are already starting. And we're going to have everyone's going to have a nuke in the most dangerous part of the world. It's going to be very volatile, very dangerous. Which is why Israel, a lot of people saw eye to eye with Israel, right, Robert O'Brien? Because they said we have the same objective.

They know Israel's not a threat to their sovereignty, but they know that if Iran gets a bomb, the Prince said this. MBS said this. If he gets a bomb, we're getting one. You know, it's the next day. And we'd rather not get one.

You know, it's bad enough, Pakistan has one. But, you know, we'd rather not, but we have no choice.

So guess who wants to take care of it? Israel will take care of it if we let them. If you were a Saudi and and the Iranians had a bomb, of course you'd want to get on bomb. Same with the UAE, it's just national interest.

So we're letting the Rainians have a bomb and not thinking about what the next consequence is. And by the way, they've also said Israel's a one-bomb country. The Iranian leader said we can take out Israel with one nuclear weapon.

So if you're the Israelis and you're you're hearing that, And you see Iran getting a bomb, what's the answer?

Well, your answer is not to tolerate it, not to do it. You'll have to take action. But so far, let me ask you, Robert, I know it's not easy, but right now we're limiting how deep the Ukrainians can hit Russia. What would you say I mean, what would your boss say, potential boss again say President Trump, and what would you say about this? Would you limit the distance in which they can hit back in this all-out brutal war?

Well, look, we've got to let the Ukrainians fight the war they want to fight. I mean, they're their their country's been invaded. We can't give them weapons and then tell them they're gonna they had to fight with one ar arm tied behind their back, which is what we would have done to the Israelis, by the way. You know, the Israelis could have taken out Hamas in Rafa, but we we held them up for a year. And made the idea fight with one hand behind their back, and they lost a lot of soldiers because of it.

We're now letting the Ukrainians fight with one arm behind their back. But what I'll tell you, what President Trump has said is it would have never happened if he was president, and that's true. Putin would have never invaded. Ukraine with the and and didn't invade Ukraine when President Trump was president. But he saw the weakness in Afghanistan.

He saw the catastrophic retreat from Afghanistan. You heard President Biden say, well, if there's only a minor incursion into Ukraine, maybe we won't do anything. And these dictators sense they can smell weakness, Brian. They're cunning. They got an animal coming to them.

I bet yeah, I bet Pruton I met these guys. They can smell weakness a mile away, and it's like a a criminal or a killer. and they smelled weakness and he thought he could go in, but now we need to let the Ukrainians win. But also, there's no plan to end the war. There's no diplomatic plan to end the war.

There's no military plan to end the war. And Ukraine is just getting brutalized.

So what what Larry Kudlow said, your colleague on Fox and My good friend and former colleague in the White House and I came out before the war and said, You've got to sanction the Russian Federation Central Bank. you got a spot the rest of the selling totally in place of waterable date. You may not cut it all off, but you can cut it in half. and the Russians won't make a profit on the war. But you gotta do something to bring Putin to the table.

Right now he's got no incentive to come to the table because We've handcuffed the Ukrainians and we haven't put serious sanctions on them. You're 100% right. The other thing is, Vladimir Putin might not be the same guy as evil as he was during your years. People say that that guy has really snapped. And what he's doing now in trying to take the few friends he could potentially have and make into a new modern-day Axis powers.

Might not be somebody that you can talk off a ledge unless, of course, you just give him half of Ukraine. He wants some piece of the Ukraine he doesn't even occupy yet. Yeah, I mean, we we can't let that happen. But again, I I think we're also actually immodest and we have to we have to get Putin to the table in a in a way that makes him want to settle the war. And the way to do that is to put heavy sanctions on his oil production.

So he's not making you know, they call him mister ten percent because he takes ten percent of Everything the Russians make is very welcoming. I'm probably probably richer than Bill Gates. But he's making money on the war right now, so he's got no incentive to stop.

So we gotta put an incentive on him to stop, get him to the table, and then we'll go into Ukrainian society. They want to do for peace. We did tell them you got to fight with one arm behind your back, but you can't give up any territory to the Russians to swap it. We gotta support the Ukrainians, but we gotta let them make the peace deal if they want. All right.

You have a lot to fix. Are you guys getting that if if President Trump officially gets the nomination, doesn't he have to get security briefed? He should get briefings.

Well, you know, but all the norms have been broken. I mean, we we've never had a former president prosecutor before, we've never had. We've never seen the things that we've seen now, so you know, he should get the briefings, it should start happening very soon. Are you encouraged that NATO has now twenty three countries playing their two percent? Yeah, and that's directly right to Donald Trump.

Remember when we came into office there were four countries. We left office with almost eighteen countries and You know, I remember going to the NATO summit in London, Brian, and was elected president of the side during the negotiations with the N Selt and Bergenhark. European allies and Everyone said, Oh, this is going to be the end of NATO. Trump hates NATO. We walked out of that summit with 14 countries who haven't agreed to pay 2%.

That was directly as a result of President Trump's tough negotiating stance. Are you working with Trump? The Europeans are thank you. I hear from the Germans and others. You were right about Nordic 2, you were right about NATO funding.

We were wrong. Thank you for pushing us. Absolutely. And and guess who said NATO to uh the n the the ex the Northern pipeline was going to be built. Not only one, but two.

Joe Biden said, Well, it's almost done anyway. What's the big deal?

Now we know. Brian, you came into office with energy being the number one national security issue. And canceled the Keystone XL pipeline, which would have brought 900,000 barrels of Canadian oil to Houston every day. canceled that and said we don't want to be energy domin any longer. and then approved the the Nord Stream two pipeline, which the Russians have wanted for years.

so that they could get energy leverage over Europe.

So we we we canceled our our oil pipeline and and approved the Russians. I mean, and you wonder why they went into Ukraine? Absolutely. Robert, have you talked to the President about getting him ready for the debate? Are you doing anything?

So I'm I I'm not prepping the President. I've sent him some things and I think he's going to be ready. I mean, you you know the President as well as I do. He's not a debate prepper. He's not cramming at Camp David the way Biden apparently has taken a week off to cram for the debate.

presidents during rallies and he likes the the give and take and he's spontaneous and impromptu, but I think he understands the when he listens up on foreign policy, he understands what's going on in the world. And I think he's put it in a very strong debate for perform perform performance. But he's not the type to get prepped in in a traditional way, as you know. Go get him. Robert O'Brien, great article in Foreign Policy magazine, a reason to subscribe, and thanks for bringing it to life here today.

Have a great weekend. Crazy with you, YouTube, Brian. All right. Man, he's really valuable, great personality. Did so much work to get hostages out.

Then they named him a National Security Advisor. When. John Bolton left.

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So, we hear about the student loan bailouts. People need it. These kids need a chance to get started again and get a fresh start. They didn't know how expensive loans would be and that interest rates would be so high. Having said all that, we thought it would at least go to the needy.

I don't know why we have to pay for it. Feel ridiculous if you did pay off your loan or you're one of these people that went to a trade school or no school at all. You got to pay for any of someone else's student loan. But an aide to Congressman Marcy Coptour is going to make you feel worse. Just got a call, he says.

This guy, Ben Commens. I got a call to let me know my student debt has been canceled. That's why elections matter. Fantastic.

So, this guy makes. Um Kem has had $8,250 in student loans as far back as 2010, and now we have to pick up a $475 billion tab over the next 10 years. And CapTur, who makes about $70,000, we're writing off his loans. Does he want to take care of his I don't know, does he have a mortgage? Should we do that too?

What a tone-deaf clown. And he's the communications director, too. Good job, Ben. Makes everybody feel worse than like suckers. Make sure you listen to Saturday night, 9 o'clock.

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