Violence breaks out as police start to clear anti-Israel protestors from college campuses

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. All right, everyone, so glad you're here.

So much going on, and I can't wait to cover it for you. Greg Lukianov is standing by, lawyer and president of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, author of The Canceling of the American Mind.

So appropriate today as we look at these college campuses in 25, 30 states. It's not just one. It's not just Ivy. Harris Faulkner is joining us at the bottom of the hour, an esteemed anchor woman who could do just about anything. She's got a brand new series on Fox Nation.

Senator John Cornyn is also going to be on this hour. We're going to get to all of that as well as writing all the breaking news. We understand the mayor of New York is going to be giving a press conference in a matter of moments. We'll give you some excerpts from that. Let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I keep thinking in my head. We all need a mom. I've been thinking that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now.

But in our country, we need you to be mamala of the country. That is not a scene from an Adam Sandler movie. That is Drew Barrymore, who often stars in Barry's in Adam Sandler movies, but she is playing herself on her set with the vice president. Ugh. Cringeworthy.

Trump on trial and how it all figures in the 2024 election. And the former president is spending his court day off in the Midwest battling Biden in the battleground states, where he is invisible to the issues facing this nation. Number two. We're here to show you some example of these external actors who have no affiliation with Columbia University, and they are actively creating serious public safety issues at these protests. That is Mayor Eric Adams.

It is Outsiders, who is behind the 25 state college campus protests for a cause that two weeks ago wasn't even a concern for most American college kids. We talk about the money and the movement and the congressional reaction. Where is the White House? Not in the lead, that's for sure. Number one.

It's unbelievable that they're allowing this to happen. This is there's listen, everyone is entitled to their freedom of speech, but this is not right. UCLA is responsible for this, and they are they are they need to shut this down now. And that is a college campus kid at KTTV, our local Fox affiliate in Los Angeles, on the campus of UCLA. College campus chaos: how the cops are once again called on to bail out the entitled, corrupt, next generation of American college students in their inept college leadership from the takedown of Columbia to the unrestricted brawl at UCLA.

We have it all. Greg Lukianov joins us now, lawyer and president of the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. Greg, welcome. You are one of the few people, I imagine, not surprised about what's going on in college campuses in this country. Not in the least.

We've been up we've been doing this all day now at the at FIRE, the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, from when we get up in the morning to when we go to bed at night, because it's just been so completely nuts. And some of it, to be clear, Brian, is protected speech. A lot of it isn't. And it's been such a mess. And I always have to start, Brian, by explaining: guys, like there seems to be a cadre of people who just noticed.

Free speech issues when it's the best cause that they care about. And I'm pointing out, I always have to point out. Free speech on campus has been in trouble for a long time now. It's been in crisis since at least 2017. The cancel culture that stops you from saying anything that might be upset.

For example, you leave off a pronoun that offends people. Let's kick them out. Let's cancel them.

Now, all of a sudden, they pretend to be Yasser Arafat and they do massive sit-ins and pretend as if the Palestinian cause is the only thing that matters in the world. I doubt the sincerity of it. I worry where it comes from, but clearly, outside forces have something to do with it. And now, what I get that, what I'm seeing, that they're holding out for something where they want these. colleges, big and small, to divest from Israel?

I mean, when you tell me you're holding out for the Vietnam War and the draft and everything, I get it. It's a war we're directly in. When you tell me you're marching for civil rights, the segregation of Jim Crow in the South, I get it. There's inequality. But now suddenly you're worried about Gaza, the Israelis?

Well I I think a lot of these students are sincere, but I definitely you know I definitely believe that what happened at Columbia with the takeover of Hamilton Hall, I believe the reports that involved outside agitators, because I know a lot of people at Columbia, including Professor John McWhorter and my co-author Ricky Slott. And what she said was, one, the campus was effectively shut down at times by the uh by the scale of the encampments, but the nastiest protesters were the people right beyond the Columbia gates, the ones who are actually more likely to engage in violence against Jewish students and You know, when they actually, and they didn't do themselves any favors as a First Amendment lawyer, where they actually went on record saying the only thing that will remove us from Hamilton Hall is force. And it's like, okay, that's what we call a bad fact. Hey, it's the only thing that's going to stop it is a punch in the face.

So if you don't mind punching me in the face, it'll be okay. Never go on record saying that. That is fantastic. Here's one of the protesters demanding humanitarian aid, cut six.

Well I guess it's ultimately a question of what kind of community and obligation Columbia feels it has to its students. Do you want students to die of dehydration and starvation or get severely ill, even if they disagree with you? If the answer is no, then you should allow basic I mean, it's crazy to say because we're on an Ivy League campus, but this is like basic humanitarian aid we're asking.

So we got to feed them while they st while they bring campus life to a halt, right? Unless we want them to die of starvation. And dehydration. But, Brian, here's something you need to understand, and so do your listeners. Uh Building occupations have been catered fairly regularly over the past 10 years.

So like a takeover at Harvard just recently, where students were demanding divestment, they were all fed burritos. There was catering at, I believe, at the Sarah Lawrence takeover where they're demanding firing a professor. The reason why this is actually more serious than it sounds, other than sounding incredibly silly. Is that when you start actually feeding people in these supposedly hostile takeovers, you're indicating that these are favored protesters? These are people that the university is sympathetic to.

And that's the thing that the thing that I want people to get in their heads is that Keith Whittington, Presenter Board, he's a Princeton professor, pointed this out in an article. If it was a full MAGA encampment, they'd be singing a very different tune. Because this kind of behavior is only tolerated due to existing bias and double standards. I mean, the anti-Semitism, the fact that I've interviewed personally 10. Maybe more personally interviewing, let alone the ones my co-anchors did.

Different Jewish students who said they absolutely feel threatened. This is what they tell me specifically experienced what they're threatened. Don't go on campus. They were told by the Columbia officials it's not safe for you. A Columbia professor I've been texting with said, and you've seen the video, they deactivated his ID.

They say it's not safe for you to go on campus.

So, when in America has that ever been acceptable to take somebody's religion and then bar them from campus and then harass them? We see the UCLA student who says, I can't get on, you're not allowed on, and people and students or others in mass in their 20s telling you you can't come on because you're Jewish. This is America in 2024. Greg, do you understand this? Did you see that coming?

I have, unfortunately. And definitely, you know, 10 years ago, I'd say I was in the someone who would like repeat pretty quickly: you know, being critical of Israel is not the same thing as being anti-Semitic. But then I went to do a talk at Berkeley back in 2014 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the free speech movement. And I was like, Hearing some of the rhetoric from some of these people, like, oh, wow, that is not critical of Israel, and that is anti-Semitic. And I've recently been accused of.

Um, uh, giving into a psyop. I've apparently been manipulated by propaganda to believe that anti-Semitism is a problem in some of these contests. And it's like, no, it's my own experience. Like, I'm in circles of people on the left, and they and I hear from even people who were once friends. They engage in anti-Semitic stereotypes in some cases.

But what's going on on campuses, like what happened at Columbia, for example, when Jewish students showed up trying to cross campus and students were chanting together that a Zionist has entered the camp and they had students lock arms to push the students out of the way or away from the camp. It's like, no, that's actually. Assault or the threat of assault. That's also discriminatory harassment. Like this is not protected speech, people.

Right. It's not. And I could can I just imagine this, Greg? Let's say they barred African Americans from campus. Right.

Right? I mean, just right with you, Bev. I mean, let's say they tried to do that with Muslims. I don't want any Muslims on campus. Every day they'd be going live.

That president would be throwing these kids out. Their parents would be called. Their names would be on a scroll. But it's okay.

Well, you know what? We have to understand it. What also struck me, and I want to play this cut too to show you a lack of consequences for their action. What also struck me is that people want to just say, fire these presidents. But the presidents aren't really the problem.

They're answering to a board. And they're answering to a faculty that wants them to, whatever you do, don't call the police. The faculty is in with the protesters.

So people think the president's the problem. They're not the solution, I'll tell you that. But they're really not the problem. Because if you listen to these professors, they're mad at the Columbia president for calling the cops. They basically censored her for doing it.

And then finally, she had no choice last night. They were talking about last week. Do you agree with me? Yeah, I'm definitely in the school of people who think that calling the police should be something that you do hesitatingly and it should be a last resort when you don't really have other choices.

So if you can figure out a way to get them out through peaceful means, by all means do it. But like I said, the Columbia students actually said you would have to remove them with force.

So definitely there are times where I think, you know, there were protests at Emory, for example, where they're using apparently rubber bullets, tear gas, tasers, which we thought was a little bit over the top. But at the same time, I think that sometimes you're left with no choice. And effectively, if you're saying that our campus has been taken over and students are engaged in unprotected speech and threats and harassment, but also takeovers that are preventing the functioning of the university, there is a point at which you probably have no other choice other than to call in the cops. That's what they were at last night. There's no doubt about it.

So you talk about lack of consequences. Here's the Colombian protesters wearing a wearing the Palestinian garb. Cut three. What will you guys do when the police come right in here and you know end up maybe handcuffing people and arresting them? We'll do what we always done.

We'll get arrested just like the criminals in the subway. They're always right back out in 24 hours. He's right.

Okay. No consequences for crime? And there's no consequences for Barring people from campus. There's no bar for taking over campus, ignoring deadlines. And in some cases, for about 40, taking over the Hamilton building.

A fact worth knowing is one of the reasons why I always open by saying this is that we've seen an unprecedented level of shout downs that has overwhelmingly been from pro Palestinian students. In since October 7th. And when it comes to, we're not familiar with a single shout-down that came from pro-Israel. Uh the students. And Sometimes, like at Berkeley, for example, they engaged in violence.

They swarmed a speech, they broke windows, they chased off an IDF speaker, an Israeli Defense Force speaker. And I think it surprised some people who haven't ever paid attention to my work, but in the free press, I came out very forcefully saying, no, here's the thing. If students are engaging in violence, they should be expelled. particularly if they're engaged in violence directed at spe for goodness sakes. It's just crazy.

So Greg, where does this head? Could this be a sobering moment for everyone to realize it's not a right wing talking point, it's not a left wing cause? This is a huge problem. I mean, do you think this could be a turning point? I think we need a lot more than we're currently seeing in terms of options for students to show how smart and accomplished they are.

And I think we really need to de-emphasize the elite colleges. Because, you know, for example, I know someone who's applying to some of these colleges. They're being told it's going to cost $95,000 a year to attend. And overwhelmingly, that money has gone to swelling the ranks of administrators who have been the threat to free speech and due process throughout my entire career.

So even if the only problem was hyper-democratization and cost, this is already completely off the rails. But when you add into it the illiberalism, when you add in the cancel culture, the fact that you can't really rely on some of the knowledge produced by some of these institutions because there's such pressure to actually not say what you really think if it's politically inconvenient on campus, we have a very big problem and we should be looking at both large scale but also small scale solutions, like everything from University of Austin, the experiment down in Texas, but even things like making sure that fewer jobs require a bachelor's in the first place.

So interesting for you to say that because you're so highly educated. Columbia costs $68,400. George Washington, $64,700. I think it's higher, but this is what my brainroom gave me. UCLA, $48,000 for out-of-state.

UT Austin, $48,000. Chapel Hill, out of state, $37,000. Apparently, room and board, by the way. Oh, that's probably it. It's the cost of doing that for a year.

Yeah, I guess it's just tuition. You're right. Harvard, $54,000. University of Michigan, $58,000.

So you're in $70,000, $80,000 already.

So that's a huge news, too, how much it costs. The other thing is, and I wouldn't shortchange this, how many foreign students are on these campuses? Do you know out of Columbia? Out of the 34,786 students, 19,000 are from other countries. What are they doing with that?

I mean, why are they they're not even opportunities for American citizens.

So why does 19,000 foreigners get seats over Americans at Columbia?

Well, partially because Columbia is a big business. I definitely like, you know, my dad, both of my parents are immigrants. I'm totally cool with people from other countries coming to America to study. But one of the problems that we've seen that's underappreciated, and my coworker, Sarah McLaughlin, is working on a book about this, is talking about the threats from authoritarian regimes, especially China, to free speech on campus. And how often Chinese students who come here who want, who actually like small liberalism, freedom of speech, et cetera.

are being threatened essentially, that their you know, their parents might even be punished back in China if they say anything critical of the government. And this is a scandal. People need to know about this.

So I'm very excited that Sarah's writing this book. Greg Gukianov, thanks so much. Appreciate it. The canceling of the American mind is your latest. Greg, thank you.

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It's Brian Killmeade. Yeah, welcome back, everybody. Just some crazy things going on. We're following it, and what we're going to do is. The mayor has just spoken about what's going on in college campuses.

He's about to speak in a little while. We're going to bring back some of the things that you, the mayor of New York, I should say.

Some of the things I think you need to know about when it comes to campus unrest. Because when I tell you about when I talk Columbia, I'm not really talking Columbia, I'm talking the country. I mean, I was just looking at video of unrest at the University of Wisconsin.

So The pervasiveness of this The mass protest that's taking place, and the people behind it, the money behind it. Uh I just I just think it's uh it's astounding. I've outside Greg Gukianoff, who was just our guest, I'm totally shocked by it. Not so much that there's unrest on the college campus, but on this issue in particular. What about the Palestinian culture?

Has women rallying for their cause? Do you understand? I'm not anti-Palestinian. They've walked away from five over the last 20 years, five separate two-state solutions. to the point where people have stopped offering it to them.

Now, all of a sudden, it's the cause that everybody understands and thinks that the Israelis are bad? Did you see what happened on October 7th? At the very least, it's controversial enough to say, Yeah, it's too complicated for me. I'm not going to take a stand on that. I'm going to focus on pronouns.

I'm going to focus on, you know, inequity in society or transgender. But the Palestinian clause too complicated. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Killmead. And I know that there are those who are attempting to say, well, the majority of people may have been students.

You don't have to be the majority to influence and co-op an operation. That is what this is about. And so if we want to play the road police, you could do so. I want to play the New York City Police, but we're going to protect our city from those who are attempting to do what is happening globally There is a movement to radicalize young people. And I'm not going to wait until it's done.

And all of a sudden, acknowledge the existence of it. And that is Mayor Adams. It's still going on in the press conference. A quick excerpt from it after last night's takedown at Columbia, where they took the Hamilton building back. They had a special machine that put these officers, special operations unit, right through and rounded up about 40 in the building.

I understand over 200 got arrested. I don't know how much jail time they're going to spend. With me right now is Harris Faulkner. He's going to be covering all of this. And she's really excited because she can't put it into words how excited she is that I'm going to be on outnumbered with her today.

Yeah, no, I mean, the words escape me, but they're real. They are real. Whatever you come up with. No, I'm teasing. No, we're thrilled.

Are you kidding? We're turning 10. You're a big part of our success. Yeah, the Faulkner Focus is coming up at 11, outnumbered, coming up at 12. But Fox Nation has a special coming out.

It dropped hours ago. Are you doing great? Surviving a serial killer. And Harris, I want to get to that, what went into it because the promos looked fantastic. But your reaction.

To what was going on last night, and then what happened at UCLA, where they were actually fighting, brawling. Um for about three hours without any police presence.

So we are in a place right now where anyone in our society, it's not just the college students or the insurgents who may have moved on, or the faculty or the administrators who may have moved on to perpetrate some of these, and they are crimes, make no mistake about it. I mean, the hate speech crime. I mean, when you threaten to kill somebody, a crime. I mean, so all of this has gone on for so long, Brian, without consequences. That it's a free-for-all.

And I think that while What surprised us on the West Coast was how long that brawl went on. Without any interruption. I mean, it was like if we didn't have to have commercials during the WWE, raw. Like, and I'm a girl who watches that sort of thing, so I appreciate it when it's not real. And it was pro pro uh counter-protesters, the uh Jewish uh citizens, like they're not even students, they don't even pretend to be students, they came on and they said, We're ripping these encampments up.

You're not letting Jewish kids go to school at UCLA. Right. We have had it, they're doing the cops' job. Absolutely. Right.

And the cops aren't allowed to do their jobs because these elite campuses, and I mean, and some of them are public, as we have seen. But the campuses and the campus leadership are responsible for one thing, their one job. I mean, an education is a bonus when your life is at stake.

So they have to keep the kids safe on campus, and they're failing. And I'll have a student on at 11 on the Faulkner Focus today who was physically. kept, pushed, shoved two blocks off s outside the Columbia University, not allowed to even go into the campus a couple of days ago. And his reaction to that is Well, I went to the university to report it and for help, and they said, well, You know, it happened just off campus. And his reaction is: well, you won't let the cops come on campus.

So they only have a perimeter around Columbia University. I'm between the university and the edge of that perimeter. And there's nobody to help me. Like, what is going on in our society? But consequences matter, we don't have them at the border.

We don't have them on the college campuses where, and stop calling them protesters. I mean, peaceful protests stopped days ago. They're anarchists. Yeah, they are. They're anarchists.

They're people who not only hate this country, but they hate the people in the country. Like, they don't like what we do as a nation who we're aligned with, the support we have for Israel, but they hate actual Americans. I don't even get it. And I guarantee you, most of the people marching couldn't find. Gaza on a map if their lives depended on it.

Absolutely. And I also think about, you know, what was brought up too. It's like, you're not upset about the Uyghurs who have been in concentration camps. Over in China? You don't want to protest that what, 200,000 people?

Do you think they know? Hmm. No.

Well, I mean, they can't find Iran on a map either. Right. I mean, you would think that Colombia, these guys, if they graduated. and didn't have a legacy. 101 average near perfect SATs to get into an Ivy League school.

Yep. I mean, so you would think that they would know about genocide of Muslim Uyghurs. But having said that, look at Syria, what's going on in Syria. Look at the fact that the Ukrainians are being bombed and civilians are being killed. But there's so many other causes.

I want to talk about something else. It's a little bit of a rapid turn, but I want to get to this. I know you've got two shows to prepare for. Tell me about the surviving a serial killer, how this came to be, and what we should know.

Well, first of all. The story of a 17-year-old girl at the time, Lisa McVeigh, is something that I think everybody needs to see, especially as we watch people who. Live like There's a tomorrow around the corner. at all times, no matter what their behavior. She didn't have that.

She grew up an abused child. She was in and out of the foster system. Her mother finally handed her over to a grandmother whose boyfriend abused her. And her life was hell.

So She had decided working a double shift at Krispy Kreme in Tampa. Um again, 17. That maybe in a couple of days after that she'd take her own life. She just had nothing to live for and, um She's a beautiful young child. And so she left the Krispy Kreme that night on her bicycle.

And she was bicycling her way back nearby to her grandmother's house. and a man attacked her from behind, ripped her right off the back. Back of the bike, and she said it felt like all the wind was just knocked out of her. She couldn't breathe. It felt, she thought she had been accosted by three people, but it was one guy.

I want to tell you a little bit about that one guy. Do you want me to hear from Lisa? You have a clip. You want to hear? Yes.

Yeah, let's hear. This is Lisa McVeigh talking about this. The news came on, and another dead body had surfaced. I stopped. Yeah, my tracks.

intuition, call it what you want. I knew right there and then when the hairs in the back of my neck stood up, the same killer was my abductor. I just knew it. I just knew it. I told Pinkerton what I had heard on the news.

I'm saying the same guy that took me is your killer. He is your killer. We didn't know his name yet, but he is your killer. Lisa was asked to work with investigators to put a name to the face of the man who had brutalized her for 26 hours. She was worried.

that she was not his first victim. and she would not be his last.

So uh I'm gonna use that as a jumping-off point. She didn't know that the man who had taken her off that bike had killed so many women before he got to her. She was the only one he didn't kill. Bobby Joe Long was notorious in the state of Florida. He was originally born in West Virginia.

His mother moved there when he was little, and most of his childhood and adult years were in Florida. He began raping women in the early 1980s, and his MO changed, and in 1984, in the spring of 1984, he killed his first victim. Nine months later, after killing women along the way, most of them were. You know, women call girls, that sort of thing, prostitutes, strippers. But his emo changed again, and his last two victims were not in that.

And then he kind of would vacillate, he'd go back and forth between that because those were people who were out very late at night. And it was mainly crimes of following an opportunity. But then he'd also. Seek them out. He'd stalk them.

When he got to Lisa nine months later in November of 1984. He picked a child. He raped her, he tortured her. for twenty six hours. And he put a gun to her head, and she thought, Okay, this is it.

And it flipped a switch in her, and she decided, No, I'm not, I I don't want to die, I want to live and I'm going to fight. as much as I can to But she had already experienced that type of fear.

So she was able to do something, Brian, that's really unbelievable. She decided that she was going to leave evidence in the bathroom of the place. She was blindfolded the whole time. The only time she could take her blindfold off is the few times that he would let her go to the bathroom. When she got into the the bathroom.

She would look around for places where she could put a finger print, like behind the lip of the the mirror or the the the sink, the toilet, wherever. She'd take locks of her strands of her own hair. And put them like in between the shower curtain and just leaving evidence that I've been here.

So if and when he killed her. Or if she got out, there would be a trace of her somewhere. Yeah, amazing, amazing. And it just so happens that she loved to watch cop shows from the time she was seven years old.

So. She used that, but the part of the story that she used, of her own personal story that kept her alive, was her ability to talk to a killer and someone who tortured someone who raped, much like her grandmother's boyfriend. She had the ability to say the words that he somehow needed to hear as a monster And convince him to let her live. It's seventeen. She promised that she would be his girlfriend and that they didn't have to tell anybody where they'd met.

I mean, he was so crazy and and broken and savage. That a seventeen year old gave him hope at at some point. But then he realized he, well, they called him a sexual sadist before they put him to death in the state of Florida. He was addicted. He couldn't stop killing and he couldn't stop raping.

But he let her go in the middle of the night. And we then found out. He killed twice more. And when she got home to tell her story. The grandmother's boyfriend I believe she was so worried that if she told police what happened to her, they'd look at him too.

Well, they were right. Because eventually that detective she mentioned, Pinkerton, believed her.

Now I'm leaving a lot out of the story that only Lisa can tell. Right. Which is why you gotta go to Fox Nation. Yeah. And I went down there just a couple of weeks ago.

And I learned something amazing about Lisa McBay. She isn't just a sheriff's deputy now. She is on the very short list to be on the very special special victims unit. It's like an episode of Law and Order SVU with Marisca Hardigay as the lead character. That's her life now.

And she says her faith in God now is what's propelling her forward. And we are sisters in the faith. Her story, I hope everybody can see. It's a limited series, it's just three parts. And you know what I love about Fox Nation?

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If you're interested in it, Brian's Talking About It. You're with Brian Kilmead. Yeah, I was just taking a final, and this was just an intimidation camp. Not trying to scare Jews off campus. I'm trying to do my final in the background.

I hear they're chanting for the death of Israel, the death of Jews. It's completely unacceptable. If they want peace, they don't stand for anything like it. You know, Israel is a democratic state, it's the only democracy in the Middle East. This is at the end of the day, they don't want Jews on campus.

They're trying to scare us off. They don't want us here. Are you going to be scared off? No, absolutely not. We will not follow our history.

We will not be led like lambs to the slaughter. And that is a Jewish student at UT Austin. Because the cops backed, they ripped up those encampments. It doesn't mean they didn't try to intimidate and weren't effective with some the Jewish students on campus, let alone what's happening around the country. Senator John Cornyn joins us now.

He's making it his mission to make sure that the Jewish kids are safe on campus. I never thought we'd have to do that, but Senator, how do you plan on making them feel more secure?

Well, I think the university is doing a good job of arresting individuals, many of whom, Brian, are outside agitators. Matter of fact, the majority of people arrested on Monday were not students.

So you have this outside groups coming on campus and creating um creat creating this uh These protests and encampments and interfering with the basic mission of these colleges and universities. I mean, it seems like a lot of our most elite colleges around the country have lost their way. They've become indoctrination centers rather than institutions of higher learning, and it's completely unacceptable. By the way, I'm watching now at the University of Wisconsin.

So I'm talking about to Senator Cornyn in Texas about what's happening at UT Austin, where they say in 24 hours the UT staff has confirmed that 34 of the 79 people arrested were students, so the rest were not students.

Well, they're non-affiliated with the university there's the rest were non-affiliated with the university, that's all they know.

So we allowed them to get in. And my sense is, Senator, but your intelligence would be better. The same reason you see Black Lives Matter pop out of nowhere and every state is seeing these racial unrest in twenty twenty. What happened to the BLM? Money's gone, the leadership doesn't exist.

Now, this is the new thing.

Well, now you have the big problem after October 7th, with they don't like the way the Israelis are fighting in Gaza.

So now, all of a sudden, this becomes a priority. There's no way that this was a priority. Prior to October 7th, What's going on here?

Well, I think you're spot on. There's a lot of similarity to what we saw after the George Floyd George Floyd's death and a lot of these protests that are at the time, our Democratic colleagues called them mostly peaceful while the fires were burning and the courthouses and other institutions were under siege.

So I do think there's a common thread here, and I'm anxious to have law enforcement investigate these and to document that. But this does not belong on our campuses. We know that campuses of higher education are places where freedom of speech is valued, freedom of thought, diversity of thought is important. This is the antithesis of that. And universities are well within their legal rights to regulate the time, manner, and place.

Of these various protests. This is not violating their First Amendment rights. This is making giving an opportunity for students to study and for the peaceful process to occur. By the way, Senator Cornyn, we know that The President's invisible on this. He barely say he doesn't say anything.

He puts out some statements. John Kirby's unsure of even what we're talking about. KJP can't find it in a folder. And the former President has no problem speaking out. Here's what he said, cut sixteen.

Well, I'm watching Jewish politicians abandon Israel, and I've seen it, and you've seen it. Where is Schumer? Why isn't Schumer speaking up? He was always out there in front because he's looking at votes, I guess, and I guess he's looking at maybe more votes than represent Israel. But that is the thing.

And it's Jerry Nadler, too. That guy never stops talking. Trump has a problem. Where is Schumer? He makes one statement yesterday.

So, where is the administration? I think they feel like they are going to have to choose between their pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas. A base and their Jewish support, which historically has been very strong. And but they are afraid to have to potentially alienate one or the other, but what they're doing is alienating both.

So I think this is a disaster politically. I think President Trump's exactly right. We ought to call this what it is. It's anti-Semitism. It's violating the rules and the laws in these various jurisdictions.

And it is another indication that higher education has simply lost its way. I want to get you on something on the border. We're now finding out that they are flying these illegal immigrants who fill out it on an app, their form, into various cities in the country, not even going to the border. 91,000. Miami gets 91,000.

Fort Lauderdale, 60,000. I look at Dallas, 2,256. They don't tell the local politicians. They don't tell the senators. They don't even tell the governor.

Austin, Texas, 171. They're just flying these illegals into the cities within an eight-month window. This is their new thing. Is this okay? No, if you and I want to fly on an airline in the United States, you have to show a valid identification.

And, you know, that was a post-9-11 counterterrorism measure. The secure ID was called. And this completely circumvents that. It does, Senator, thanks so much. It's got to stop.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Gelmead. Hi everyone, Brian Kilmead here. Thanks so much for listening. I'm listening.

I'm listening for some type of. Statement from the White House, some type of president that would go up to the cameras and say, I'm really disturbed about what's happening around the country, not just in places like major cities like Columbia, but what about the University of Wisconsin? What we're seeing right now, I'm seeing unrest over in the University of Southern Florida. Of course, we even have it in Texas. We expect it in Berkeley.

UCLA out of control all night long. But we don't have a president that even engages in this. You have a Jewish senator, the most powerful one in the Senate, who doesn't say a word about this. And uh and we're watching uh the police act brilliantly last night in in New York's So, before I go any further and welcome in Steve Daines, who is a remarkably productive senator and also doing his best to get the best candidates possible to give the Republicans the best opportunity to take the Senate.

Next year it may be saved the filibuster, but Uh let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I keep thinking in my head. We all need a mom. I've been thinking that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now.

But in our country, we need you to be mamala of the country. I mean, it's beyond cringeworthy. That is not Drew Barrymore pretending to be in an Adam Sandler movie or some type of Matthew McConaughey rom-com. It is her talking to the Vice President of the United States in a talk show setting. Unbelievable the butt kissing that goes on.

Meanwhile, Donald Trump on trial, how it all figures into 2024, and the former president spending his off day from court in the Midwest. We'll discuss it. Number two. We're here to show you some examples of these external actors who have no affiliation. With Columbia University, and they are actively creating serious public safety issues at these protests.

And Mayor Adams went on to say: we all know, he says, this outside forces trying to corrupt a whole generation of Americans and other people around the world. We should wake up to it. Who was behind the 25 State College Campus protests for a cause that two weeks ago wasn't even a concern for most American college kids? We talk about the money, the movement, and the congressional reaction. Number one.

It's unbelievable that they're allowing this to happen. This is their listen, everyone is entitled to their freedom of speech, but this is not right. UCLA is responsible for this, and they are they are they need to shut this down now. College campus chaos. You just heard this man, Sean, on KTTV, the local Fox affiliate in Los Angeles, how the cops are once again called on to bail out the entitled corrupt next generation of American college students and their inept college leadership from the takedown of Columbia to the unrestricted bar all last night at UCLA.

Let's bring in Senator Steve Dain. Senator, I don't blame you if you didn't see it. I got odd hours, but I am up on the way to work at 3 a.m. Eastern. I am watching.

A one-hour, and this was only the second hour, a one-hour and thirty-minute brawl on UCLA between counter-protesters, mostly Jewish, against the Palestinian encampment. And there's no cops. I mean, what's going on? What does it mean on the plan? It's shocking.

This outbreak of anti-Semitism on college campuses across America right now is reprehensible. Why isn't Chuck Schumer saying this on the floor of the U.S. Senate? Why aren't Senate Democrats saying this? This kind of hate has no place in America.

And Brian, I've got to point out the hypocrisy here. These are the universities, these elitists, the tower. Diversity, they tout inclusion as long as Jewish students. And Jewish professors are not only excluded, but driven off campus. This is it's a remarkable uh Hypocrisy that we're seeing right now from the left.

But this is a dangerous ideology. It reminds me of what we saw historically, what happened in the 1930s in Germany. But it gets even worse. Look at the amount of federal funding that's going to these universities. Columbia received $1.2 billion of federal funding last year.

UCLA was talked about there, where they're using wristbands to identify anti-Israel students. They received nearly a billion dollars at GW, George Washington here in Washington, D.C. There's a Palestinian flag hanging right now from the statue of George Washington. They received $200 million of federal funding. I say this to President Biden, every single Senate Democrat.

Join me, join my Republican colleagues. in first condemning these violent protests, condemning these protests that are targeting Jewish students and Jewish professors and then defund the universities, defund these universities, not defund the police. And defund them that refuse to crack down on this terrible hate that's going on across our American people. Yeah, Senator Schumer only spoke up when the building was taken, the Hamilton building was taken in Columbia. They said, You've gone too far.

Are you kidding me?

So anti-Semitism was fine until they took the building. And then cops were waiting to be called back in. They finally had no choice.

So the Columbia president calls the cops back in, and they have to use all their sophisticated, all their high-level officers to get into the second floor of that building, arrest 43, over 243 go to jail. But guess what? They're going to get right out, and they know it. Listen to this protester, cut number three. What will you guys do when the police come right in here and you know end up maybe handcuffing people and arresting them?

We'll do what we always done. We'll get arrested. Just like the criminals in the subway, they're always right back out in 24 hours. Listen to this, some more, cut five. What about With the way that the campus was damaged last night, they smashed the windows at Hamilton Hall.

They took over there. That's breaking not just campus policy, right? But that's violating the law. No, that's totally fine. I mean, what Israel is doing and what the United States is doing is so much more than just worth broken glass.

We'll always be able to repair that glass, but the fact that there's 30,000, 40,000 lives that will never, ever, ever be taken back. While they chant NYPDK in the background, I just wanted Senator you to understand what we're dealing with and what cops are dealing with.

Well, first, God bless our members of law enforcement. That are going in and restoring law and order. Brian, we are a nation. fundamentally based on law and order and rights. Look, the First Amendment protects speech, but it does not protect the right to threaten or intimidate Jewish students, Jewish professors, much less the violence that we're seeing going on right now in these campuses.

Right. You know, there is outside forces. It's worth looking into. The Rockefeller Foundation, the Ford Foundation, these Palestinian liberation groups that are here, and we know about the George Soros groups. I mean, they're funding hundreds of thousands of dollars to them to jump on any cause, and TikTok is right behind it.

Anybody holding out on TikTok like Rand Paul and saying it's freedom of speech is just deluding themselves. I hope people realize that.

Well, when the American people, if we exposed how many billions of dollars of their federal tax dollars are going to these universities. I think there'd be another uprising going on at the moment as well. We've got to stand up, condemn the anti-Semitism, and then call for defunding these universities. And to tell you, Brian, this is such a contrast in terms of where the right is versus the left at the next election. The left says defund the police.

The right says defund these universities that are promoting hate and anti-Semitism. This is dangerous for our country, and that is why we've got to stop it now. And then, I mean, on top of that, you've got Biden here who just did a bailout on student loans for these radicals. I mean, if this is not making the American people upside, I don't know what is. This is why we've got to mobilize on our side and make sure we show up on November 5th, 2024, and elect President Trump and take the majority back in the United States Senate.

Right. And that's where you're focused. And you've really picked some strong candidates. Tim Sheehee over in Montana, a special operator, I think Navy SEAL. But so far, you have Larry Hogan over in Maryland giving you guys great hope.

West Virginia seems to be a layup with Jim Justice. And then you see in people say Sheridan Brown is vulnerable with Bernie Moreno. Tell me about these races. Yes. Well, clearly, we we've won West Virginia.

I'm a conservative forecaster, Brian, but once Governor Jim Justice got in that race, very popular governor, Republican governor of West Virginia, Then President Trump endorsed Jim Justice. That pushed Joe Manson to retirement.

So we're going to win West Virginia. That takes it to 50-50.

Now we just need to win one more Senate seat, and we've got the outright majority. By the way, do you realize Kamala Harris has broken more ties as vice president than any vice president our nation's history? We've had 47 vice presidents, Brian. She is now the gold medalist. That's a record I'm ashamed of.

She, through her tiebreaking vote, passed that $2 trillion stimulus package. It was inflationary. The Inflation Reduction Act, couple trillion dollars, the green hallucination from the left. That was all lost by one Senate vote. That's why these races are so important.

But President Trump tonight is going to be heading into Michigan and Wisconsin. Big rallies there. We've got a big race there in Michigan with Mike Rogers. That race is tied as we speak. We had a good shot to win Michigan.

In Wisconsin, Eric Hovede Is running. He's just a couple points behind right now, Tammy Baldwin. Trump's going to be there. But here's the funny thing. dynamic going on in both those states.

Our Senate candidates like Mike Rogers in Michigan, like Eric Hovey in Wisconsin, they want President Trump to come campaign with them. The same cannot be said for these Democrats who want to keep Joe Biden out of their states because he is the least popular president in 70 years. That's interesting. There's a couple of things going on, though. You're being seriously outraised.

How do you expect to close that gap or even get closer? That is something you've there's been a perpetual problem.

Well, it is. And I tell you, we've got the best map in ten years, Brian. We're not going to have a chance at this kind of opportunity for another decade. But you look, you mentioned Tim Sheehee in Montana. There's a Navy SEAL, one hundred combat missions He graduated from the Naval Academy.

His wife's a Marine. She also graduated from the Naval Academy, businessman. That race in Montana, she's up a couple points right now. We've got a chance to win Montana. Huge victory for us with Tim Sheehy.

You take a look at Ohio, Bernie Marino. That's a state that is going to go for Trump by six to ten points. Bernie is running neck and neck right now with Sheriff Brown in Ohio. It's states like that. You mentioned Larry Hogan in Maryland, very popular Republican.

He's up right now. He's up in the polls. That race is going to tighten up, though, because Joe Biden is going to win Maryland by 25 to 30 points. But Larry Hogan, his maverick branding, the guy that's very popular, governor, he's got a real good shot to win Maryland.

So we like where we're at right now with great candidates. And the bottom line is we've recruited really strong candidates, a lot with strong military backgrounds. Graduates of West Point, like Dave McCormick, there up in Pennsylvania. That race is going to be a neck and neck race. Talk Tim Sheehi, Naval Academy.

We got Sam Brown. Nevada, West Point. These are American heroes that wore the uniform defending our freedom.

Now they want to come back to Washington and fight for our freedom here. A lot of people can't figure out. How Donald Trump could be wrapped up in four cases. This one hopefully is the only one he has to deal with. Why he could be involved in that, have the nonstop January 6 rhetoric going in.

He's still up in almost every poll. And the last one, he's up by six nationally. And you've seen all of them. I mean, it's not a done race, but no one could understand why he's leading. Senator Daines, maybe you could tell people why he's leading.

Well, I'll tell you why he's leading, because he's a leader. I mean, people are yearning for the days of President Trump when we saw the the booming economy, you know, tax cuts. Supreme Court justices, strong commander-in-chief. We didn't have to worry about Putin invading Ukraine. We didn't have to worry about the North Koreans acting up.

We didn't have to worry about what's going on now. The Iranians attacking Israel. That's the first thing that's ever happened. I mean, on Joe Biden's watch, we saw the worst terror attack in the history of Israel happen. Why?

They sense weakness. The Iranians sense weakness with Joe Biden, and they're right. When you have this weak, feckless president like Joe Biden, it invites the tyrants. To rise up and attack. You go right back to Ronald Reagan, peace through strength.

That's what happens, but you get war through weakness. And you remember when Joe Biden was running in 20, he said: if you elect President Trump, we're going to have war in the Middle East. I mean, we're going to have World War.

Well, Under Biden, we've had World War breaking out, and this is why you're seeing the numbers move to President Trump. They want a strong America-first leader. They're rejecting the policies of Biden. You know, Brian, I remember the late 70s. I was in high school when Jimmy Carter was president.

I mean, Jimmy Carter was a very weak president. Biden is now. his popularity ratings are below where Jimmy Carter was in the late seventies when we had Iranian problems, we had inflation problems. It's real similar. And then Ronald Reagan stepped onto the stage in nineteen eighty and won a landslide victory.

The polls are breaking in the direction of Trump. The more the people see Joe Biden, the more they say he should not be reelected. They more they hear from President Trump. They've got buyers' remorse. They said we should have elected him in 2020.

I think he's going to win in 24. I mean, he's counting on it for his own personal welfare because they were going after him with this law affair. I'm sorry to put you through this, but I just want you to hear how different the press is treating the press and talk shows. You watch the layup that Howard Stern gave President Biden. He will not do an interview with a real reporter.

And I don't think there's anything wrong with doing fun shows, but this is all they do. Listen to Drew Barrymore, Cut 44.

Sometimes they'll show me little things that just amuse me. Like, apparently, some people love to talk about the way I laugh. Oh, yes.

Okay. I love your laugh.

Well, I keep thinking in my head. That We all need a mom. I've been thinking that we really all need a tremendous hug in the world right now. But in our country, We need you to be mamala of the country. Were you clapping?

Was that you in the audience, Senator Jeans? I mean, is that crazy? I was cringing, Brian. I mean it's it's uh this is The person is one heartbeat away from the presidency. And it's, I mean, Biden is a disaster, but his vice president is equally so a disaster.

And to think that she is one heartbeat away from the presidency ought to be frightening to every American. And that's why you're seeing President Trump continue to strengthen in the numbers. They are yearning for the days of strong American leadership when you could tuck your kids. To bed, when you can read your stories to your grandkids, we have six grandchildren now, Brian. The American people are afraid.

They're afraid of what's going on with the economy, with the world, because of a weak leader with his reckless policies. And then you see what's going on across campus in America right now, Brian. It is awful. It is hateful. Where is the leadership right now from the commander-in-chief as well as the Senate Democrats?

He was in a closed-door fundraiser yesterday, no press allowed, and no comments about the massive unrest, the biggest in my lifetime across this country that's still raging today. And it's just showing he's not doing a bad job. He's doing no job. He's not actually doing the job.

So I think that should matter when you think about your vote. Senator Steve Daines, always great. Thank you. Hey, Brian, thanks for having me on. You got it.

Steve Dance trying to turn the Senate red. Don't miss a minute. The Brian Killmead Show. Back in a moment. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. All right, we've got a couple minutes here. Coming up next after hour, Allison Esposito, she was the running mate for Lee Zeldin. She is a 25-year veteran of the NYPD and candidate for New York Congressional District No.

18. But I would say this, I'm going to tap into her. Her police knowledge, because last night was just brilliant the way the NYPD was called in after the building was taken. They gave him another 24 hours. He did not leave.

And then the NYPD did something pretty amazing. They came in with all their sophisticated equipment. Number one, they flew drones. They got a sense of what was going on. With chance of pigs and NYPD KKK, they actually went into that building on the second floor with zip ties and riot shields.

But they used something really Cool. It is called the mobile adjustable ramp system. It looks like a big tank. What it did is went right into the window. Boom, the cops go crawling in and they go down.

They round up 43 people. But can you imagine if this was fugitives and they had a gun? They would probably do it the same way because you got to. You got to appear to be the same way. The Columbia was, you have to do it because you have to be ready for it.

But Columbia said, I don't want NYPD on our campus. But because of what happened, the report is NYPD will be there through commencement on the 17th of May.

So it's your worst nightmare come true, you elite Ivy Leaguers. Get used to seeing the men and women in blue. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Joe. There is, though, a concern around radicalization.

This is a time when, if you have, and you know, to your point about being more specific, last week there was the wife of somebody who had been convicted for material support to terrorism on campus, and we have no evidence of any criminal wrongdoing on her part. But that's not somebody who I would want necessarily influencing my child if I were a parent of somebody at Columbia or the individuals who were involved in doing some of this training and tactical awareness activity. These students don't come in the doors knowing how to barricade themselves behind barriers that they've created, right? These are all skills that are taught and learned, and that presents a problem. Yes, and they actually showed video on the Columbus campus, Columbia University campus.

Uh of them training.

So they have somebody who infiltrated into the encampments, as I suspected. And now they're saying that there's people on the outside who are running these insurrections of all these schools. In many cases, especially in major schools like in Ivy League or Columbia University, I imagine Yale and Harvard, too, showing them exactly how to do it, but most importantly, getting to them early and maybe finding out who that high school kid is that might be able to lead the charge once they're in college and beyond. Professor Gerard Steinberg joins us now, Professor of Political Studies, Bar-Ilan University over in Israel. Welcome, Professor.

Thank you very much. It's Gerald. Gerald's good.

So Gerald, what are your thoughts about what we're see what you're seeing with these all these campus unrest? I've been spending the last 20 years, my main focus has been looking at who's funding. what are called non-governmental organizations, NGOs. It's a huge industry. It's a multi-billion dollar industry.

And a lot of it uses all of the liberal progressive frameworks in order to promote a very strong political ideological agenda. Here we have all these, they call them pro-Palestinian, they're not pro-Palestinian, they're anti-Jew, their Jew hatred, and they're anti-established anti-American frameworks on dozens of campuses. And the question is, who's funding all of this? There are people who get salaries, they have travel funds. This is extremely well organized.

And what you're seeing is basically what's been developing for 20 years. It's not brand new, but most of the funding is hidden. And that's something that needs to be addressed.

So, where will you be able to uncover? I understand the Rockefeller Foundation, people have pointed to George Soros in this, the Ford Foundation. Where else? But the problem is we don't know where most of the money is coming from. The main group is called Students for Justice for Palestine.

They exist on maybe a couple dozen campuses, maybe more. They're running a lot of these programs. They have four or five other very similar organizations cross cutting leaderships. And their funding has to go into millions of dollars. But they don't exist in any kind of formal structure.

They don't report to the IRS. They're not tax deductible. They don't even exist in terms of campus information. They are essentially, there's no transparency.

Now if you're a student, you're paying your fees to a university, you have the right to know where those fees go. And if the student government is giving even $5,000, just a small drop in the bucket, To an organization called Students for Justice for Palestine, and they're involved in these mob disruptions. You have the right to know who else is funding them. Are they getting money from Qatar? Are they getting money from foreign governments?

Are they getting money from the Rockefeller Brothers? As you mentioned, who's funding all these groups? But they don't report, they don't register, and that's a real serious issue that needs to be addressed by Congress. I would think so.

So we just had a mayor say there's outside forces who are manipulating our kids, and it's not just happened here, it's happening in other Western countries. And it's time to wake up to it. And one of the examples they gave was TikTok. They have this bin Laden message to America that suddenly these 20-year-olds are saying, man, that bin Laden makes a lot of sense.

Social media has become a very easy way, not the only way, but a very easy way. To brainwash kids. And TikTok is one of them, but it's also before that it was Facebook. I guess that's Facebook is less popular now, but you got Instagram. I think what is important is that, for instance, Facebook and Instagram, the meta company, is taking steps to prevent terror linked NGOs.

From using their platforms. One of the organizers and perhaps probably funders of all this activity is a group called Semidoon, which is a part of the Palestinian Popular Fund for the Liberation of Palestine, a terrorist organization back in the seventies that was involved in airplane hijacking, involved in murder. They were involved in the October seventh massacres from Gaza into Israel. And they run organizations of the United States on campuses because of the framework of Semi-Dune, and that's something that needs to be addressed. Meta's credit, they have banned them from using their platforms, both Facebook and Instagram, in order to propagandize.

But TikTok doesn't have any kind of scruples. They're a Chinese run organization. They don't have any kind of moral principles like that. That also needs to be addressed. I think so too.

So we're trying to figure that out where this is coming from. Professor. Anybody who's advertising two separate cultures and governments What is attractive about the Palestinian government? What is attractive about what they did on October 7th? I mean, if you want to say that France is better with their socialistic tendencies than America, which is more free market, it's a debate.

But you have one democracy in the Middle East who has nothing but loyal to us for the last 70 years and vice versa. And now we talk about the freedom of movement, the freedom of opportunity, freedom to run for office. And now all of a sudden people are saying, you know, there's queers for Palestine. I mean, the the the knuckleheads that think that that is a culture that they should support. Is just mind-boggling to me because we know what they think of homosexuality in that culture.

How are they making this sale? First of all, let's start with the word hypocrisy, right? There's a huge amount of hypocrisy out there. They don't care. But if you look at the specifics, If you look at the organizations and the people who run those organizations, 90% of them are Muslims, Arabs, have that kind of a background.

And they've been brainwashed.

Some of them are doing the brainwashing for 76 years. Their parents, their grandparents have said, Israel is this foreign establishment that was forced upon us. I see all these slogans, Jews should go back to Poland and all the nonsense. The Jews have been in Israel, as you know, for the land of Israel for over 3,000 years.

So there's a lot of brainwashing. It's really part of a war, the war to eliminate Israel.

So that's a large part of what we're seeing on campuses. Then we have a lot of other students who are not Muslim and Arab who are bought into this largely because they're ignorant. Let's start with that. They're not really getting educated at universities. They're getting brainwashed.

So, this is part of the DEI structure and culture. It's about saying that fundamentally Jews shouldn't have a state, that they're colonialists, all those slogans and phrases, which are complete nonsense. I've seen some of the videos, including on TikTok, where students are asked students at these called protest camps. And they ask, well, you're chanting from the river to the sea, which river, which sea? They can't even identify with it.

They know nothing about the history.

So you have a combination of people who are brought up on hate. brought up on really the elimination of the state of Israel. And the second group of people are ignorant who buy into it or brainwash.

Some of them are young. They're anti-American. They say, well, they buy into this view that human rights is something that's only for the suffering of what are called the global south. Palestinians are perpetual victims. When you ask them about October 7th and the 75 years of terrorism and hate, they say, well, we don't know very much about that.

They're not well educated. That's an understatement. And these are university students, and that's what's really frightening.

So you have that combination, and that's very dangerous. Don't you think the administration is making it worse by constantly commenting on IDF, sanctioning them for actions taken before October 7th, instead of rationalizing that the information coming out of Gaza is from the Hamas Communications Division? Instead, they seem to be making it worse by trying to go both ways. There's a lot of inconsistency, internal contradictions between statements made by the President, made by Secretary of State Blinken, some members of Congress, including Senator Schumer. It seems to be very inconsistent.

On some days, they criticize Israel or even use stronger language. Israel's not doing enough to help the starving people of Gaza. But you know, when I watched this and I sit in Israel, so I'm looking at this as an outside observer. But when you do this before the Michigan primaries, you gotta say this is motivated by political, narrow political interests. And if you're going to use moral terminology, For a political purpose, it's the United States government.

That's a real problem that I think needs to be addressed. I think there should be a lot more caution and care in the use of this language, even if the political motivations are pretty obvious. Talking to Professor Gerald Steinberg, who is a professor of political studies at Bar-Ilan University over in Israel. Professor. In the big picture, people talk about what happens after they go into Rafah and after they do the best to wipe out Hamas as best as possible.

And they go, let's just do the right thing and do a two-state solution. Have you heard of a plausible option for the day after the war? The short answer is no. That's it. Simple one word answer.

And that's a real problem. Because two state solution is just a magic formula. It's been around for many years. Yeah. Excuse me.

Palestinians have gotten territory. Or in the case of Lebanon, when Israel withdrew from southern Lebanon, Kizbalah took over. When Israel withdrew from Gaza in two thousand five, or almost its nineteen years, who took over Hamas? to make it an entire terror infested entity, not even a state, but a terror infested entity. All they did was use all the resources in order to attack Israel.

with inverse brutality.

So if you're going to talk about a two-state solution, you've got to say how are you going to prevent that? I haven't seen anybody with any practical means of doing it. It's just a magic formula. Right. They want to get the whole Arab community involved and set it up, but there's no practical look at this.

I just wish people would understand that it doesn't mean you're pro-Israel to say there's no two-state solution. Haven't they walked away from five legitimate opportunities of late to have their own Palestinian state? I think it's almost every day. I mean, we we count specific negotiations Where the Palestinian leadership, mostly the inheritor of the Arafat legacy, we call Arafat Nasut Mohammed or Mahmoud Abbas rather, is the head of the Palestinian Authority, which is supposed to be better than Hamas, but they have never Said to their own people, hey, Israel is going to be here to stay. You like it, you don't like it.

Jews are not going to leave their homeland.

So we have to they don't they never say things like that. And as Israelis, we hear that. Even my friends and colleagues who identify themselves as part of the left Score anti-New Tanyahu. who said we need to have a Palestinian state said this years ago. But now they're saying, wait a minute, this is reality.

Palestinians Don't want to live with Israel. They need to be educated. It's a whole generation that needs to be taught that Israel is not going away. I'm not taught that Sama Israel's this foreign implant that was established illegitimately. It's a very, very difficult process.

Professor, I think people just got to put the time and listen and do your own studying, but you just can't wing it. And read a flyer and then think you understand the region. Professor Steinberg, thanks so much. Thank you. We come back.

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You have been warned as per city college to leave the campus. If you refuse to leave, you may be placed under arrest. And that is just a message to the city college students who are way to the left. You remember that commencement speaker that talked about how horrible America is and Israel is a couple of years ago. And I'm in touch with one of the professors there.

They're out of control. The faculty rallying around the encampments there. What they did, and I got to give the NYPD additional credit, they took down the Palestinian flag. And they put up the American flag. Do you believe these idiots did what they did at Harvard?

They just switched flags and put the Palestinian flag up. Do you know at George Washington University, they put a Palestinian flag over George Washington? I think it still sits there today. But it's not just in the West Coast and East Coast. It's easy to blame New York and California and Washington.

But we watched UCLA for two plus hours not have the LAPD come in, and we watched counter protesters come in and go after the encampments at UCLA last night. And it's like watching a two-hour brawl with no referee. It was a battle royal. You see skateboards and flash bangs, and you see Punches being thrown, speakers being taken, just nuts. And because the mayor's in Washington, the governor doesn't care, you don't have anything to stop it.

So UCLA finally gets their NYP the LAPD in there and get some semblance of order, but they were overwhelmed with the USC a few days before, so I'm sure they're a little bit hesitant. Allison Esposito joins us now. She wants to. She's running for a congressional seat. The 18th District for Pat Ryan currently has.

She's a 25-year veteran of the NYPD and a running mate of Lee Zeldon in New York. Allison, welcome back. Good morning, sir. Thank you so much for having me.

So the NYPD gets called in. And has to do their work while chants in the background are KKK NYPD, get away, and whatever catchphrase they have, and hearing pigs, pigs, pigs over and over again. That's in New York. Do you ever get used to that? Um We are the easy targets.

The New York City Police Department goes in to do their job. They do it with professionalism. They do it with respect. They do it with empathy. And we are just the easy targets.

People like to lash out at us. And to answer the question, do I ever get used to it? When I was growing up, my father was a police inspector. He ended his career as a police chief in Manhattan. And my mom was his biggest fan.

And she used to say PIG stood for pride, integrity and guts. And that's what those NYPD officers showed last night.

So the entitled kids. That want to pitch classes and yell and scream about things that they know nothing about. In fact, there were a few different interviews conducted on Columbia where they asked these kids, Why are you out here? And the answer was, I wish I was more educated about this, but I Israel did something.

So, I mean, you see it more and more. We have it up here in the district in 18. at Basser College. Last night I had people out Taking a look at their encampments, and they were smoking weed and drinking and laughing. It was a big party.

It undermines any kind of real protest that was going on. But I couldn't be more proud of the job that the New York City Police Department did last night. They entered quickly and swiftly. They ended uh criminal act Uh there was burglary taking place. There were a few janitors that said they were held hostage for a couple of hours.

This was no longer a peaceful protest. It was a riot. And the NYPD did their job.

So you can feel free to chant pig all you want, KKK all you want. It's just the result of a bunch of entitled kids that have never been told no. Bob, well, the NYPD brought in the mobile adjustment ramp system and got a zip. They had these zip ties for handcuffs. They went through the window and then cleared the place of about 100 people.

But listen to this. And I tell you, this protest is not wrong. Cut three. What will you guys do when the police come right in here and, you know, end up maybe handcuffing people and arresting them? We'll do what we always done.

We'll get arrested. Just like the criminals in the subway, they're always right back out in 24 hours. I saw that. Uh Pathetic, but it's true. No, it's absolutely true.

We have emboldened criminals. Like I said, this is not rocket science or 101, or this is 101, rather. We hold criminals accountable for their actions. And people like Pat Ryan, my opponent in New York 18, people like Kathy Hochul, people like Alvin Bragg, people like Mayor Adams are emboldening criminals to do whatever they feel. And the same thing goes for these Columbia students and the students around the country.

If you're not. held to consequence. Then you're going to keep pushing the line. And that is exactly what you saw. And I saw that interview last night.

And I chuckled to myself because it is absolutely true. They know that they get arrested and they get out in 24 hours. My officers are going out on the street every day, removing loaded illegal firearms off the waistbands of known gang members, sometimes two, three, and four times. Same guys. And those perpetrators were back in the precinct collecting their property to go home before my officers were done processing the arrest.

Allison Esposito, District 18, she wants to win it. Support her. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian. In Kill Mead.

All right, well, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmee Show.

So glad you're here. This hour we're going to be joined by Jim Vandehei. By the way, you could say he's here already if you're smart enough to be watching on Fox Nation, as well as watching on the app. If you go to the app, click on watch at the bottom, and you just scroll until you get to Fox Radio, you'll have it. Jim, great to see you.

Great to be here. Appreciate it. First off, how did you find time in your schedule to write a book? I don't know. I mean, it's a lot of it is just me kind of taking what I'm learning from running a company and having also been a journalist and trying to pass it on to other people.

So a lot of it is just part of my daily flow. And then, you know, I can write quick because we've been writing right to the point. Yeah. Uh he founded uh the playbook and then he founded uh Axios. And Axios is something you have to uh to read and once you read it you become addicted to it.

And if you want to quickly understand what's going on uh in the country, I always say get Axios because it gives you the fundamentals, and then you decide what you want to click on or what do you want to find out more about.

So the name of your book is called Just the Good Stuff: No BS Secrets of Success, No Matter What Life Throws at You. And Jim, I want to get into that, but first off, put in perspective what you've been seeing on these. With these campus uprisings, and the fact that we have Jewish students in America in 2024 who are concerned for their welfare many campuses. Yeah, I think what you said at the end is what matters most. I think all of us have I have friends who are Jewish and then have kids on these campuses.

And the number of friends I'm hearing from whose kids, one at USC, I've got a kid at Chapel Hill, who are scared to go into their campus and are being frozen out because they're Jewish is insane. Like there's no justification for it. And when I look at this, especially I look at a lot of these universities. It does come down to weak leadership. Which I think is a real problem in the country, like the lack of like clear moral leadership in terms of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable.

Are you going to accept free speech? At what point is free speech become criminal behavior? Places like the University of Chicago have kind of set it out and they haven't had as big of an issue. But when you have moral ambiguity, when you have leadership ambiguity, and these students are kind of encouraged sometimes by professors to have this behavior, you get what you're seeing at some of these campuses. And it's just not right.

Like there's not, it's fine. Have whatever position you want on what's happening in the Middle East. But you can't damage buildings. You can't taunt people because of their faith or their origin. Like, it's just wrong.

It's just wrong. And then when you make it impossible for other kids to go to school, you're a criminal. Period. But it also uh factors into law enforcement, too, in your view of it.

So, for example, it's easy for a lormic, like Stefanik, the Speaker of the House, say new president at Columbia. And then you realize that Columbia's president got rebuked from their faculty, their board. because she invited the NYPD on campus to get rid of those encampments.

So she was being too tough for the people that hired her. And on the outside was saying, you got to get tough for your students, and they don't even know that she probably, in some degree, I actually feel bad for her. She doesn't know which way to go. And then finally, she had to call in the cops. Against that.

Wind back the clock if you have a clear philosophy on what your type of behavior are you going to accept. Like we love free speech, everybody does, and we should have a vibrant free speech across on any topic on any university. But the minute that it starts to drift into illegal behavior, then you that's why you have law enforcement. But if you haven't laid that out clear for yourself, for your faculty, for your students, you get mayhem. And yes, like I'm somewhat sympathetic.

These university professors are operating in extremely liberal environments. Like they have a lot of teachers. Like we know that most teachers are pretty liberal. A lot of them are quite sympathetic to the protesters. And so they're under tremendous pressure internally.

On the other side, they're under pressure from politicians, the media, from donors.

So, yeah, well, welcome to leadership. Like, you got the big gig, and when you get it, you darn well better have. Moral clarity. Just to give you, people, for the most part, when you hear these stories, they go, oh, that crazy New York and California, it's not happening in the Midwest. Wrong.

It's happening in the Midwest. University of Wisconsin. We just had video on. There were riots today, riots, huge protests today with an encampment. Then you have University of Texas, Austin.

Cops came in there two or three times. They finally were able to pull some people out. And they look at the University of Southern Florida. They quickly was able to end it, but it doesn't mean the sentiment wasn't there. And the sense of injustice for the Palestinians opposed to the Israelis, I find interesting.

And I looked at some studies prior to October 7th. This was the 34th most important issue for college kids. 34th. How has it become number one where you're risking your college education?

Well, two things. Like, one, you're right. Like, we read a map this morning that showed all the different places where there's protests and all the different places where there's encampments. It's all over the country. Definitely.

You know, a lot more concentrated in New York and in California, but it's undoubtedly spreading. I don't know that it is bigger than the number 34 issue right now. I think for a very small number of people, it's obviously like something they're quite passionate about and they're now protesting. I think there's always been a group of people who are in college who are kind of radicalized and ready to protest no matter what it is. It becomes somewhat contagious.

And you have a lot of people who don't even really know what they're talking about, what they're even protesting, the words that they're utilizing, and then it kind of takes off. It takes on like a life of its own, which you see across TV all this week. City College. Faculty is right there. They're talking to each other.

Let's go support the kids. Columbia? were out there or you saw them invest on. You saw them ringed around the campus supporting the kids.

So you can even say, even after the building was taken over, there was still no outrage from the actual faculty itself. I find that somewhat disturbing, especially because, I mean, this is, they're trying to graduate in three weeks. They're supporting people that have encampments that they were warned, you have to pick up the encampments at 2 o'clock, I think it was on Tuesday, or you risked expulsion.

Now they say they want amnesty from expulsion.

So, are all these kids going to kicked out of school? Are they going to follow through with this? I have no idea, but there are obviously you've seen universities take a hell of a lot tougher tone over the last 24 hours saying you're going to get expelled. And listen, yes, you have, you definitely have a lot of professors at some of these universities who are siding with the students. My guess is that most don't, but there's a you're under so much pressure, you're so worried about the backlash that you end up staying silent.

I think most professors, they just want to teach math or biology. They're not necessarily activists by nature. There's certainly some people in the, especially in like the political science area at a lot of these places that just kind of long for the heyday of the 60s and are protesters and anti-establishment by nature. But I don't know that that's most. And I think that's the pickle that you see these administrators in.

Like they're trying to figure out like how like how big is this movement inside their university and what's the backlash going to be. Brown University reached an agreement with the student organizers on Tuesday to disband the pro-Palestinian encampments on campus through the end of the year. and bring divestment demands to a vote later this year.

So in that way, you could say they've won. The students have won. Are they going to have vote on what their university is going to invest in? Shouldn't that just be in your decision when you pick a college? I don't like what they're investing in.

I'll probably not go to Brown. I mean, at least that is a peaceful solution. At least they've come to some kind of compromise between students and university. And that's their prerogative. That's that university.

Then, if you go to that school, you get to make a decision. I think that's a lot different than someone smashing windows, occupying buildings, and making it impossible for somebody who's paying a tuition to go to school to go to school, or these kids who don't get to have a commencement address because they're so scared about the backlash from people on campus. That's just plain wrong. And again, I just say it's where moral clarity matters: where what is the black and white for you as a university, you as a university administrator, you as a university leader?

Well, you don't have that, you get like some form of anarchy, which you have. Are you surprised? Did you put your analyst hat on for a second? Are you surprised you haven't heard more from the White House? Are you surprised you haven't had more from Chuck Schumer, who's in New York, and the most powerful Jewish leader ever as the majority leader in the Senate, Congressman Nadler, also a New Yorker.

Do you think not saying much is is possible? Listen, just politically speaking, they're in a hell of a pickle, right? You've got a real issue that it's not a huge number, but there's a decent number of people, especially in swing states, who are very, very sympathetic to the Palestinian cause and who are saying, we're not going to vote for Joe Biden. We're not going to vote for Democrats. In a world where you have a House, a Senate, and a presidency that all could be determined, control of Congress and who wins the presidency.

could come down to 10, 20, 30, 40, 50,000 votes in seven different swing states. It can. And I think that's where they're getting constipated, right? They're like, oh, man, like even you know what Chuck Schumer probably wants to say. I actually think I know what Joe Biden wants to say.

I don't know that they feel that they can say it.

So the White House yesterday comes out. They have the spokesman tell reporters that this is outrageous in terms of the actual protests that are now trending into criminal behavior, but the president's not saying that. Like you said, a lot of Democratic leaders aren't. When our reporters are asking Democrats, they kind of want to, I don't want to talk about. About that topic.

They're in a jam. They're in a jam. Am I wrong to say that? From the image we have of JFK, of Reagan, even George H. or George W.

Bush, that they would just be saying the right thing. that they would not be that worried about it or silence wouldn't be an option. I'm stunned by the lack of communication. on the issue that is really roiling the country. And I got up today, I saw two and a half hours.

Of outright unrest on the UCLA campus. I thought I'm like, wait a second, is this still happening? As we're getting ready for Fox and Friends.

So for two and a half hours, I can't imagine being president and not addressing this, just walking up to the reporters and just saying, guys, I just gotta tell you, this is where I stand right now. And like there's just a there to me, there is a very clear demarcation zone. I'm a big free speech person, you're a big free speech person. They should be able to protest. They should be able to say what they want to say.

But when it crosses into blatantly anti-Semitism and then damage. Damage. Criminal behavior. Both like dangerous racial or anti-Semitic language that should be a line. And then the line, certainly of criminal behavior, that has nothing to do with speech.

Like you've now crossed into occupying a building you do not own. You do not have a legal right to be there. You do not have a legal right to prevent other students who just want to go to school and just want to go to their commencement.

So I think anybody could say that.

Now, yes, obviously the president's worried about a backlash from that. I think Democrats are worried about a backlash from it. But I think there's a real danger for Democrats in not being more forceful on it. Because if you look at the polls, one of the things that voters, especially swing, persuadable voters, seem to like Donald Trump on more than Biden would be on this idea of decisiveness. Decisiveness, but decisiveness around criminality.

Right? You think about the border, you think about crime. And whether it's warranted or not, like Joe Biden gets low marks on that, and Trump gets pretty high marks.

So, well, this is lawlessness in many of these, not all of them, but in some of these cases, as we look at these monitors, that it is lawlessness, and some of it is criminal behavior. I don't really care what somebody says as long as you're doing it in a legal way. I think most of us would think that that's great. It's when you start, when there's violence and there's occupation that is illegal, that's where you've crossed a line. Jim has got a brand new book out.

It's called Just the Good Stuff: No BS Secrets to Success, No Matter What Life Throws at You. And we were not expecting to be talking about riots in the streets and college campuses. I think there's going to be a lot of these campuses that will calm down because they're just out of school for the year. In a few weeks, don't move. Both sides, all opinions.

It's Brian Killmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. Next slide. I am going to be calling this motion a vacate.

Absolutely calling it. I can't wait to see Democrats go out and support a Republican speaker and have to go home to their primaries. and have to run for Congress again, having supported a Republican speaker, a Christian conservative. I think that'll play well. I'm excited about it.

Marjorie Taylor Greene, always thinking team first, speaking out. She's going to have a motion to vacate. She says she's going to offer that up, but it's pretty clear Democrats are going to save Mike Johnson. They feel he's only got six months left anyway. Jim Vandehey is here, CEO, co-founder of Axios, also founder of Politico's playbook, also author of a brand new book.

It's a positive book, supposed to inspire you. I'm giving it to my daughter who's a junior in college. Just the good stuff, no BS, secrets to success, no matter what life throws at you. Jim, before we get into it, I just want you to comment on that story: motion to vacate. Talk about unprecedented.

It looks like Democrats have committed to saving him. Should she bring it up? Do you think she's bringing it up? I mean, she keeps saying she's going to and then she doesn't, but let's assume she's going to bring it up. I mean, Listen, the Republican decision to allow one person to force A vote on the fate of their leader was one of the most moronic decisions done in the history of leadership.

Meaning, how could you possibly take a job? Imagine like me as a CEO. Agreeing to take my job where any of my 550 people could call a vote the minute that they don't like me and that I could get ousted. Like, you just can't do that. That was the rule, but no one ever exercised it.

No one ever exercised it, right? Nobody. And then they basically took it and truly institutionalized it and unleashed it. And it's insane.

So like Speaker Johnson's in an impossible position. And like, listen, I thought, listen, I don't know that the speaker got enough credit for that package they got together. You might like it, might hate it. A pretty impressive act of governance that they were able to bring the funding for the Middle East, the funding for Asia, and the funding for bring it together and get it through in this divided Congress.

So like it actually is how government. Kind of should work. Again, a lot of people don't like the policy itself, but if you assume that a majority of each caucus does, it's the way things should operate. And whatever, he's, I think he realizes like, I'm either going to try to govern and get a couple of things done, and my fate will be basically probably determined ultimately by do they keep the house. If they don't keep the house, he's out as leader.

If they do keep the house, who knows? Right. Jim, your book, you said you weren't a fantastic student. You weren't the most motivated decision, but everything turned around for you. You didn't have a perfect SAT score to get into college, and you weren't as focused as you are now.

What changed and what message did you try to bring out in your book? Yeah, I mean, a big message is like, I grew up in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. I'm not a kid of privilege, not a kid of money, other than I had like two unconditionally loving parents. And, you know, I was a partier. Like, I just had terrible grades.

My scores were so bad I couldn't even get into a four-year college. My guidance counselor said there's no chance you're going to college, brought me to the military recruiters. And I had contemplated at one point going into the Air Force. But I said, no, no, I really want to get to school. And what I benefited from being in a small town where two professors are like, hey, you're actually a really good writer, and you seem really interested in politics.

And, you know, they put me in a position to go work for a daily newspaper and ultimately to do an internship out in Washington, D.C. And once I found something I was good at, it turned out all these things that made me really good at being Bad, badly behaved, were pretty good for journalists. Like I was a mischief maker, I really was fearless. I paid poker. I'd go to dive bars and hang out with anybody from any walk of life so I could talk fluently with anyone.

And Republicans took control. And I grew up, and I'm here, this kid from Oshkosh, who went to Catholic schools, and I'm working with all these liberal reporters. And like, I wasn't particularly political at all. And I was just like interested, and I'm covering an issue. And next thing I know, I was a pretty good political writer and ultimately ended up becoming a founder of Politico and then a founder of Axios, and then taught myself to be a CEO.

But my point of the book is: whether you're an aspiring professional in college, or you're a manager trying to be a better manager, or a leader trying to be a better leader, I was in this unique position of starting two companies, learning to be a CEO, but also being a journalist who took close notes. And I'm basically trying to pass on the wisdom of what I've been able to see and basically what I've been able to learn from doing things the wrong way. I make fun of myself a ton in the book about how bad I was as CEO. In the beginning, but now I think I'm pretty good at it, mainly because I think I'm humble enough to realize there's a couple things I'm good at, some things I'm bad at. If someone's better than me at something, I just pay attention to them.

I try to absorb it. And the book is my effort to pass it on in a very blunt way and also in a very actionable way, so that a kid or a manager or a leader could pick it up. And oh, how do I deal with a bad boss? How do I deal with a person who's a jerk? How do I fire someone so they don't just feel like crap about themselves?

How do I become a leader? How am I a leader in a wartime situation where it's really difficult? And I've been able to learn that. I'm lucky.

So, Jim, don't move. We wanted to get more specific about your book, and then we'll talk about how you write, because it's so brief and to the point in today's society. It's so brilliant for the time in which you're born. It's not a coincidence. You worked at it.

More with Jim in just a moment. You'll listen to the Brian Kill Me show. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Jim Vandehai is here, CEO and co-founder of Axios, and also founder of Politico.

But the big news is just the good stuff. No BS secrets to success, no matter what life throws at you. We're watching everything as it develops here, seeing what the White House has to say, the president's in his Doing his campaigning in the Midwest today, Michigan and Wisconsin. He's off from court. And we're following all the news from all the campuses.

But, Jim, talking about inspiring other people, you said you taught yourself to be a CEO. How do you teach yourself to be a CEO? When what were you doing wrong? Yeah, I've only figured all this out in by reverse engineering it. I think what helped me is I was a journalist and I've always been curious.

And I'm not afraid to pick up the phone.

So when I became a CEO, kind of an accidental CEO, we started Politico, it took off like a rocket. We needed someone to run the company. I would just pick up the phone and call people who or that have dealt with this before, or I would watch people who are doing it in a way that I admired or in a way that I abhorred, and I would adjust accordingly. And I guess there probably is, I'm more of a natural leader than I realized because I wasn't, like, as a young kid, like someone you say was a leader. I have always had strong moral grounding.

And so, and I, and I have really strong opinions about right and wrong in terms of like how you run a company, how you treat people. I'm very, very high achieving in terms of like I work. Like an animal, but I never ask people to do more than I give. And I think that that helped a lot. And I grew to really like it.

It's a lot of, you know, it's a lot of fact pattern recognizing. It's a lot, okay, what's happening in the industry? What's happening with my staff? How do I adapt? How do I stay ahead of it?

So when you say with this job, you said, you know, you didn't have the greatest grades or the greatest SAT scores. But you turned it all around because when you found something in your passion. Should The advice to people is say pursue your passion. But what if your passion is not financially rewarding. What if, like, what you're pursuing, let's say, you know, want to be in sports and you're not making much money.

How do you mix your passion? with your scales.

So, I try to boil it down to its simplest point. The. We, you and I, most of us, spend probably 80% of our working day working, going to work. whining about work, celebrating work.

So you should have that 80% of your waking hours. You should do everything you can to get a lot of joy and satisfaction out of that. If you can, if you don't have the obligation of like putting food on the table for your kids or caring for elderly parents, and so I would choose a lot less money in something I truly enjoy doing if I can still sustain the basics of life. And my bigger point is, I think most people, and not all, I don't, I know some people are in situations that they can't, but most of us. We can make more choices than we actually make.

Like, you don't need to be around bad people or working for a bad boss or working for a bad company. You need to find something. What I always say is: Nirvana is doing something for, you know, getting something you would do for free, but you get paid for it. Like, I would do, I would gossip with you about politics, about leadership, about starting companies. Even if I didn't have this job, it's what I get excited about.

And so I lined it up and I won the lottery, but I think other people can.

So you said it's for recent graduates too. What kind of questions do you ask yourself? When you graduate, to find out where, you know, you said you had somebody took an interest in you, you said you're a pretty good writer, you should try this, you liked it. How can we mimic that pattern? I think like figuring out, like having an honest conversation with yourself, and then ideally someone who really knows you, like, what are you good at?

What does get you excited?

Okay, if you just answer those two, and I think most people don't even think about that. Like, what are my gifts? What aren't my gifts? And what do I get excited about?

Okay, is there something I could do professionally that marries those two things? And then maybe take a little bit of a risk. Like, I never really had left Wisconsin until I did an internship in DC. I grew up in a small town. We didn't do a ton of vacationing outside of the state of Wisconsin.

So I had to take a risk. And putting yourself out there into a city like Washington. I'd never been there, but I went there and it was like an addiction. It was so electric, like power, all these people, all this, these ideas. And like, I was just, it brought out something in me that I didn't know existed.

So maybe taking a chance. Taking action. Taking action. And also, if you're like me and you're not growing up with privilege or money or anyone saying, hey, you're going to go be a superstar, like don't assume you can't be, right? There's no, just because some kid went to Harvard or went to some fancy school or their dad was a senator.

The truth is, if you Grew up in a hard town or small town or in sort of normal America, and you have work ethic and you have honor. Right. And you have a little bit of wisdom and kind of like street smarts. That will take you a lot farther than most people realize.

So Dana White, the CEO of UFC, came out and said, you know, he says this generation is weak, which would be a great opportunity if you're a savage. You're really going to get to the top quicker. Do you label this? Have you? It's hard to label a whole generation, but do you see a problem with work ethic?

Because you are hiring people now. I don't. Listen, I don't. I really don't. Like, what I see is a generation that it's hard for you and I and people of our generation to get our heads around.

But you've got to remember: they didn't go to Boy Scouts, they didn't go to Girl Scouts, they most likely didn't go to church. They didn't have the country was questioning patriotism. All the things that bound us together and sort of created our common bond or common character, they didn't have.

So they come into the workforce. They're used to sharing their every fantasy and idea on social media. They haven't had a lot of institutional support and a lot of things to celebrate.

So by the time they come into the workforce, yes, they have big expectations that there's a part of us that is going to be their church, their therapist, their friend. But what they're ultimately looking for is they're looking for meaning out of their work. They're right. We were wrong. Like, why didn't we look for meaning out of our work?

I never even thought of that word when I took a job. I wanted a paycheck. But the idea of trying to figure out how can you do something that you feel really proud about, that's great. And almost every company either creates a product or has a culture that there's something that is bigger than profit, bigger than money.

So it's just changing how you talk about it.

So when I talk to my staff, most of whom are under the age of 40, I don't necessarily. Talk about financial performance as much as I talk about. We're helping people get smarter faster about topics that matter. When people get smarter, faster on topics that matter, they make better decisions and society does better.

So, like, they love that. They're invigorated by that.

So, if that's what it takes for me to motivate them, just a different way of thinking. I know Henry Ford and studying him, he said one of the first things he did is, I need people to work all day, but I need their families to be happy.

So, he set up a campus and they had playgrounds and they had intramural sports. And there was a pride in being at Ford. I'm at Ford. I'm part of the campus. I'm part of the team.

I'm making history. It's hard to do that when you sit there on a. Uh on a conveyor belt type position. But manufacturing. But he created her for part of it.

For sure, but even there, like listen, if you treat people fairly, if you create a a workplace that makes them proud, you're still going to get more out of them. And if you look at polling, basically, Most people have lost faith in media. Government? Technology Even the FBI, like they've lost faith in things. You know what they haven't lost faith in?

Business, and particularly a local business. And so I think all of us in positions of leadership in business, we have an obligation to be better leaders and be moral leaders. And I'm not saying that you have to indoctrinate people with like your religion or your philosophy, but I think there's being something about being honorable, about being wise, about being hardworking. Yes, demand a lot of people, but also. What you do when nobody else is watching?

Yeah, you do the right thing. That's what I'm always looking for in people. Like, do you do the right thing when it's hard? Like, one of the chapters is I won't use the word because we're on error, but when S-H-I-T happens, shine. And what I mean by that is anybody can be good when things are going well.

What happens when something goes bad or when someone slights you? How do you handle yourself? Because that's where you're going to get defined. And by the way, that's where you're going to become a better person. And I think all of us, and you have a big microphone, right?

Like all of us who have this ability to affect how more than one person behaves or thinks have to realize how contagious leadership is. If you are a bad leader, a mean person, a gossiper, a whisperer, A tyrant, everyone around you is going to be the exact same way. But if you work hard, if you do the right thing when no one's looking, If you're courageous, if you're candid, it spreads. It goes, takes us back to what's happening on campuses. Show me a bad situation, I'll show you weak leadership.

Show me weak leadership, I'll show you moral ambiguity. And that's a real issue. I have outnumbered at the top of the hour. We've got a couple more minutes. By the way, I'm talking to Jim Vandehei.

He just wrote the book, Just the Good Stuff: No BS Secrets to Success.

So First off. The way you write. It is so right to the point, crisp and and clear. What's the secret?

So basically, we had started Politica when we left. We started Axios, and the whole idea was: how, basically, you and me, or most people probably listening, need to know more about more topics at the fastest-changing moment in history. And so, if that is true, how do I serve that person?

Well, I've got to make information both smart but a lot more efficient. People just don't have enough time. And so, we created this idea of smart brevity, which is just get to the point. What is the one or two things that are the most important point you're trying to make? Give me the context.

We call it why it matters. Why does that point matter? Then, if you have data points or facts to back it up, put them in order of importance, put them in bullet points, because that's how the brain actually wants to consume information, and that's how the brain best remembers information. And when you're respectful of people's time and their intelligence, there's a benefit. They want to hear from you and they want to read your content.

And I think it's why Axios has been so successful. We don't have an opinion page, we're not trying to indoctrinate. You. We are trying to get you closer to the truth on the topics that matter. Most of we're trying to do it in a very, very direct way.

It's how I wrote the book. It's how I talk in general.

So it's natural now. Right. And you decide to spin off to local.

So now, if I pay I could get the Axios version of what's happening in my market. What markets have you picked? How do you do that? Yeah, local for local. We're in Des Moines, we're in Miami, we're in Seattle, we're in San Diego, we're in 30 cities.

Do you find local writers and do it? Are you supervising them? No, no, no. It's all we find the best local writers from that community for that community. And it's a mix of what's happening in politics or business or technology.

But also, you live in a fun town. What do you do? What are the cool restaurants? What are the fun new scenes? What are the great concerts that are happening?

And the idea is, again, there, too, to be really, it takes five minutes to read the newsletter, and you probably are going to get more out of that than an hour and a half trying to figure out in a big newspaper what actually matters. Do you feel that local is dying? A lot of people say local newspapers are obviously having trouble surviving. Are you trying to fill a gap? Are you trying to get people excited about local again?

We're trying to fill the gap. Like, I I like I'm a big again, like I am a capitalist, so every business we create is about trying to get a business. Trying to make money ultimately. But it's also about trying to inform people. And I think local news, people knowing what's happening in their community, having some accountability in communities, it's going to die.

And if we don't figure it out, or if someone else doesn't figure it out, you're going to have an entire nation of 330 million people, very few of whom are actually served by what's happening locally.

So if we can solve that, and I tell my staff this all the time: if we solve local news, That will be a bigger triumph than creating Axios and Politico combined. It's that difficult. I think we're onto something. And so we'll see if we can get to 100 cities over time and they're profitable. I'd be super proud.

A minute left. What's the thing we should all keep in mind over these next six months with this election and at least the trial, at least one trial that we're in the middle of? Yeah, I think one thing that most people who are curious about news aren't paying enough attention to is artificial intelligence. I think if you're listening out there and you're not reading more about what is happening with these large language models, ChatGPT, people have probably heard about, read about it. It is going to be as profound of a change on your job and on your information consumption as the internet was or the creation of your smartphone.

And it's going to happen probably in the next couple of years. And you should pay attention to it. You should understand how it's going to affect your life. You should understand how it's going to affect politics. Because in this campaign, especially in the final three months, you're going to hear a lot of things.

You're going to see a lot of things. They're going to look real and they're going to sound real and they're going to be fake. And that's a real problem, a real problem.

So be really careful about where you're getting your news. Facebook is not a source of news. It is a pipe. There's some good stuff in that pipe. There's a lot of sludge in that pipe.

Know where you're getting your news. Don't share something unless you're certain that it's true. Wow, and you got it perfect. Jim Vandeheg, congratulations, Vandeheig. Congratulations on the good stuff, the brand new book.

Go get it. Oh, this is a treat. Thank you. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

You know, keep marching for Hamas, kids. You really got your liberal eyes on the right prize here.

Now they're now they're uh Now they're uh cheering for Iran. Because they just fired all the missiles at Israel.

So Iran is the good guys? You mean the Ayatollah? Black-hearted, black-eyed, bomb-planting dude that we captured our people, and you know, it's like. I keep trying to tell the left this every week. Like, The more you do crazy shit.

the more you push the people in the middle to the right. And he's 100% right, Bill Maher. And he's just making those statements is true. In Iran, they are celebrating. They are celebrating the fact that we have these campus protests.

They are celebrating in the streets. And that disheartens all these people who want a degree of freedom inside that highly educated, brutal dictatorship. And now I'm talking about the government. I'm talking about the people. And number two is you're also cheering people that were just shooting 300 rockets at Israel and we knocked out of the sky.

You should be cheering our military, but we're just everything is the upside-down world. It makes me wonder if there's even more to know. More. To know. I guess the answer to that is yes.

First off, the Biden administration is not doing much when it comes to the campus uprising, but they are when it comes to marijuana. The Biden administration will move to reclassify marijuana as a less dangerous drug, and that's listed as a historic shift. The DEA announced on Tuesday it will move to reclassify and make it less dangerous. Say the move by the Biden administration comes during election year. Of course, the proposal, if passed, would recognize the medical uses of cannabis and acknowledge it has less potential for abuse than some of the nation's other drugs.

This is a way to get, just like student loan relief, this is the young vote, don't you think? I think it's the young vote. I think it's also the African-American vote. Right, and then also by making it You know, most states actually aren't charging you on this anymore, but still, like, barely making it a crime. Yeah, the Attorney General Garland is submitting a new role for the OMB as soon as today, which would reclassify marijuana.

Good. We don't want you to focus on the campus unrest. Let's make you sure that you focus on POT.

Next, middle schools who protested that trans athletes' participation are banned from future competitions. This is nuts, especially the places did happen. I'm talking about West Virginia. They protested transgender athletes participating in track and field competition. They've been barred now for future meets, prompting the state attorney general to ask the U.S.

Supreme Court to weigh in on the transgender student athlete ban for a second time.

Now, the West Virginia Attorney General, Patrick Morrissey, filed a lawsuit against the Harrison County Board of Education on the dissenting students' behalf. After they were blocked from the upcoming meet following the protests of April 18th on the shopping competition, West Virginia Watch reported that five girls from Lincoln Middle School stepped up to the circle for their turn before refusing to throw in the event, which was won by Becky Pepper Jackson, a 13-year-old girl who takes puberty blocking medication and estrogen hormone therapy, which is child abuse in my view. But guess what? She won with 32 feet 9 inches. Ariana Vigliano, 29 feet.

Followed by two others. How ridiculous is that? Yeah, she won by more than three feet, but I mean, good for Patrick Morrissey for pushing this. And like we discussed earlier this week, like the changes to Title IX is going to impact now. It's sexual harassment if you're misgendering.

Right, this is absolutely insane. And by the way, if you're a parent who gives your kids gender blockers in middle school, that's six, seventh, and eighth, right? Six, seven, eight. That's absolutely insane. BWGOP lawmakers are hit with a gut punch as Red State's Democratic governor ekes out a win in the transgender battle.

They failed Monday to override her veto. I'm talking about Governor Laura Kelly, so therefore they have to live with permitting transgender athletes to be able to compete. That is absolutely insane.

So, meanwhile, I'm going to go on to the set of outnumbered. I'll have a chance to be the guy in the middle. And I've just been officially named. You know this, Allison. The man who's been unoutnumbered more than any other man in America.

So I would say that's what you're the luckiest guy. In the history of the planet. Or outnumbered. Yeah, in the history of the world. Or outnumbered.

And I'll be on that. What a day to do it. We'll probably move around from campus to campus. Thanks so much for listening to Brian Kill Me Show. Keep it here.

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