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The governor of Louisiana is going to be with us shortly, Jeff Landry. Always love talking to him. He's got an important message as it relates to the number one issue in America, and that is illegal immigration. And then Jared Cohen, a former and IDF officer, CEO of Jigsaw and Alphabet, a former advisor to Secretaries of State, Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton, and best-selling author of five books, Jared Cohen, on the battle for Gaza, as well as what a truce might look like, what a ceasefire might look like, and why the prime minister walked away from the deal that was on the table, which, by the way, I'm pretty glad about. And meanwhile, what we're up against in the region, too.

Yes, the United States of America. Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if the Supreme Court said we're removing the front-running Republican candidate from the ballot. I think it would be very, very disruptive in this country. No kidding, David Oxlerod.

You're right again. Trump trials and Joe's own document drama. We're going to look at the challenges outside the campaign trail for both frontrunners. Number two. He said that nobody in the military told him he could have left a smaller number of troops in Afghanistan.

And then he was contradicted by his own military saying, no, he was briefed about that. This is what happens when the president cannot recall his briefings. It's deadly serious. You know, a couple of things. Ari, that might have been the case.

He also knows differently and knows that. Politically, he could just lie about it. 2024, gaps piling up for Joe Biden. The more we see him, the more I feel American Democrats are getting closer to panic mode as minorities are now running for the hills from Biden and his party. Number one.

Well, they all were. Joe Biden, the mayor, the governor, they all felt that open borders gave them new constituencies. And they called anybody racist or xenophobic who wanted to secure borders.

So they've got a problem. They can't square the circle. Can't square the circle. That might be a problem, Victor Davis Hansen. Down goes the border bill.

Plan B is now just emergency aid for. Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel. What does it mean for the border crisis? And will there be a round two on Impeaching Arcas? We will examine.

Governor Jeff Landry joins us now, the 57th Governor of Louisiana. Governor, welcome back. Brian, thank you for having me. Good morning. Hey, about 4:30 Eastern today, the Texas governor is going to have a press conference to talk about the progress with making his own makeshift wall with containers and barbed wire and taking over Shelby Park.

You were quick to say you can have Bar of my National Guard. What has that been like, the communication been like, and what has it done for the illegal immigration problem they tell you in Texas?

Well, look, I traveled down to Eagle Pass on Sunday with a number of other governors. Um, including uh Sarah Sanders and others, her and I traveled together down there to Eagle Pass. And were briefed by Governor Abbott. And I tell you, it is unbelievable. I mean the things that the Louisiana I mean that the Texas National Guard with the aid of some other states, have been able to do.

in that short period of time, has basically shut off A gaping hole in the border and stopped. Um what was at one time, you know, thousands and thousands of people. migrating into the country illegally. What's amazing, too, Brian, is that if you go there, you will see that that park sits underneath Two Legal ports of entry, two bridges. that have legal ports of entry that are on our customs.

Okay, so what the government is doing, this is how ridiculous it is. The government says, Hey, you can't come through where it's legal. We're going to just let you, we're going to just close our eyes while you swim across the Rio Grande. I mean, it's the most unbelievable, most ridiculous thing in the world.

So we go there. We got a great briefing. We toured the border. We saw what some Connex boxes and some Constantine Wair could do. I mean, just think about how relatively inexpensive that was.

Um and to st it which which absolutely worked. And And then And then I leave and I come back to Louisiana and I pick up the paper. Or I I get a bulletin on my phone. that says that the Senate has come up with a border package. And then I look at the highlights of that border package, And I read it.

And I'm like, well, wait a minute, 50% of the funding, 60 billion, is going to Ukraine.

So I asked my wife, I said, honey. Could you grab me an atlas, a very new one? I did not know that Ukraine was a border state. And I mean, this is the kind of nonsense that's going on, right? It's ridiculous.

And if you look at the amount, that it's costing the taxpayers. On this open border policy, I mean, 30,000 pounds of fentanyl. We worry about nuclear power. Why in New York we see not only Defensito, and we see the people, and now we see these illegal immigrants beating up cops.

Now we have this genius mayor who says, I'll give them credit cards, I'll give them cash cards so they can spend money on their own lunch every day while we're doing their laundry. And that's where this money is going.

Now you have the mayor begging the state governor in New York for additional money to pay for at least half the illegal immigrants. But it's all because, Governor, they're not like you guys, they're a sanctuary city. You know, sanctuary state. California is a sanctuary state. They got what's coming to them.

Oh, absolutely. Let me tell you something. One of the most ingenious things that's ever happened. Was when Governor Abbott and Governor DeSantis went out there and started busting all these migrants from the border.

Okay, and that we're piling into their states and setting them up to those blue states. Because you know, as long as the problem was not theirs, They thought that there was no problem. And then all of a sudden they realize: oh, wait a minute, this is a problem. And I'll tell you what. If they pick up the phone and call the Democrats on the Senate side, who claim that it's Republicans that are dysfunctional.

Okay, because that's what the mainstream media read all the time: Republicans in chaos on the hill. No. Democrats are trading mayhand And they are in disorder because we've got a border That is completely false. That's that's letting people in. Who want to come in and harmonize the city?

I know what you're saying, but the Republicans don't look great, especially in the House. They're trying to impeach McCourt, Major Mayorkas, don't even have the votes. And the Republicans actually put themselves into a corner. They said, We're not going to give you foreign aid unless you come up to fix the border.

So they've set up this committee to do it. Nobody, a lot of people don't like it. 41 senators vote against it. And now the Democrats can turn around and go, Yeah, we gave you what you wanted.

Now vote for the foreign aid.

So I want you to hear but go ahead, I want you to comment on that. No. Well, I w I'll I'll say Brian is a d That is completely what the facts on the ground are. But to go over there and talk to the American people. Go over there and talk to anyone, irrespective of their party affiliation, and ask them whether or not.

their tax money right now. is better spent in this country domestically. Than overseas.

Okay, go ask any of them. I mean, we've got poor infrastructure, we've got bridges collapsing, we've got an open border. I mean, the list goes off, we've got inflationary costs. We got all of these things while Congress and the Democrats sit there and want to pour billions and billions of billions Overseas. I mean, like, yeah, I feel differently.

I would think we have to back Ukraine and, you know, obviously track the money, put people there that you trust and follow every gun to the front line. But those people fight like warriors, and the Russians are our enemies. I want you to hear Steph Knight of Axios last night. She says that even Democrats know this is a problem, cut 24. I've heard from Democrats and from immigration advocates who had real concerns with the bill from the left.

And you look at the policy behind this deal. I've dug into the bill text. The reality is the White House did concede quite a bit on some of these measures. This would have imposed some real asylum restrictions. And of course, Republicans say that President Biden could be doing more with the authority he has.

And that is true. But the Senate had an opportunity to try to force Biden's hand. hand through law and they stepped away from that, which is certainly remarkable to see. And certainly we've seen the blame game begin with Republicans still trying to pin this on President Biden and kind of for the first time Democrats going on offense with the border issue, trying to point the fingers back at Republicans. I mean, I don't see that whole jiu-jitsu thing resonating with.

Independents, moderates, any clear thinking Americans. They know who broke the border. But you would have to say it is kind of clumsy the way they are, the way the Republicans kind of walked into it. Oh, look, right. You're not going to get me apologizing for Republicans on the Hill's poor way of messaging things.

I mean, we know that that's been that's been a decade after decade old problem. I mean, look, I served up on the Hill as well.

Well yeah but look I I can tell you. When Trump was there, it's not like he had his way with Congress. It's not like Congress gave him everything he wanted. But yet he went in there and he found ways to solve problems. And the president can, he can take, he's got some unilateral action that he can take.

Certainly. I'll tell you what he could do if he doesn't want if he doesn't want It on his hands. He could reprogram some of the money at DOD. As Senator Rose states, that are sending troops like we are, National Guard troops down to the border. They'll seal it off.

I mean the the the the people that are coming look let me say what it's like. It's like Brian, if I gave you a bowl of grapes. And I said, Ryan. Look, how about you take a couple of grapes? But by the way, there's a poison grape in there.

Like would you put your hand in it? No. And and that's what's going on in the border. Like think about we we we have the facts. On our side, that showed the amount of criminal activity.

that is pouring across the board and is affecting real Americans. I mean, everyone knows someone. Who's lost a loved one?

So fit in overdose, we we're losing 125,000 people a year. That is directly coming up. Across the border, and so that's why, if you want to talk about national security, the most extential threat we have. to national security and domestic peace in this country. is at our board.

Yeah, no question. Right now, the former President of the United States is out comfortably in front. Of Nikki Haley. Is Nikki Haley hurting the party by staying in? Do you or do you give her credit for hanging in?

Well, I mean, listen, I think that by now, after you lose to nobody, I mean, I think it's time to pack your bags and go to the house. I mean, why would you continue to go out there where evidently the people of the country and especially those inside the party.

Okay, has said, look, this is the guy. This is the candidate that we want on the ballot. To run for President in November. I mean, why would you particularly buck it when state after state primary so far overwhelmingly has chosen President Trump? A couple of things.

I know you have Louisiana has a substantial black population, and look at these numbers. Minority Democrats or lean Democrat voters in 2020. In 2020, 66% of black adults leaned Democrat. Uh, in 2020, 28 percent of Hispanic adults leaned Democrat.

Now in 2023, only 47% of black adults leading Democrat and 12% of Hispanics. What's going on and what could Republicans do to not only not be Democrats, but to answer to be an alternative for black and Hispanic voters?

Well, look, I think if they look at that the way we won in October, I mean, remember, I won the governorship in a historic Primary win because Louisiana has this convoluted jungle primary system. No one, no governor, no gubernatorial candidate had won outright the first time. But we went out there and we resignated a message That really didn't, that talked about how we were gonna do things in a conservative principle way. We didn't compromise our principles, but we spoke to everyone. I mean, crime affects everyone.

Okay, education affects everyone. The economy affects everyone. And certainly at the federal level, voters look towards the economy. And if they think about the four years that they had, Under President Trump. And they compare it to what their pocketbooks look like today under President Biden.

That's why you're seeing those numbers. move. And of course, if Republicans on a grander scale would take up that particular message, I think we could solve some of these problems. It would be great. It would be great if Republicans got went in there to Chicago, to New Orleans, Uh to uh to Austin.

To the major cities that they just kind of give up on and just say, Listen, this is my message. And if you don't get it this time, you get it next time, and then people realize that that the Republican Party cares. And I think that and it would be everything to the whole country's benefit. Governor, and I know I'm speaking to the choir with that. Governor Jeff Landry, thanks so much.

Thank you, Brian. Appreciate it. And thanks for everything. Look forward to being with you again. Absolutely.

I love what you guys did in Texas because it's pro-American, and I appreciate that you're a National Guard.

So when we come back, I'll take your calls: 1-866-408-7669. What about that cease-fire agreement? Why did Benjamin Eton walk away from it? What was the right thing? Jared Cohen joins us at the bottom of the arrow, but you're next.

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Well, they all were. Joe Biden, the mayor, the governor. They all felt that open borders gave them new constituencies. And they called anybody racist or xenophobic who wanted to secure border. They said, oh, you believe in the great replacement theory.

Even Sean, as they were writing books called the New Demographic. Democratic majority or demography is destiny.

So they've got a problem. They can't square the circle, Sean. They on the one hand, they want all these people to come in, but now immigration with crime and the economy are the three chief issues, and they're all polling against their interests.

So what do they do? Yeah, what do they do? Victor Davis Hansen, there's not one word wasted. He has so much perspective, not only a historian, but a military historian on top of that. And he's watching what's happening at the southern border and says, you know, we you know, this these people have a diminished uh view of America, that we took the lands from the Indians and were built on the backs of slavery.

One of the reasons that they believe, many of them believe, that The way to equal it all out is to let everybody in. And just, I don't know, level the playing field. in the best possible scenario.

Well, guess what happened? Everyone stood up and said, you're ruining this country. There is no reason for it. You're doing it intentionally. Then we're not going to tolerate it.

And now the sanctuary city wants it looked like it was in if you stood up against sanctuary cities, it looks like you weren't tolerant To immigrants, or you don't like Hispanics. And that's what's the deal in 2017 when President Trump took over. It is not the deal now. I think that if he just tries to get rid of sanctuary cities, sanctuary states like California, I bet you that things go the president's direction on that if he becomes president again.

So we're going to take a look at that. But when we look at both parties, it's amazing how everything has switched. How it used to be, wow, those Republicans, those white-collar guys can't really resonate with the average American like Democrats. That has switched. The Republicans are now the blue-collar party.

And most rural voters see eye to eye with people that pretty much never farmed in their life, like Donald Trump. Listen to T.W. Shannon. A Republican, Cut 17. It looks like there's a complete realignment where the Republican Party is now the party of the working class, and the Democrat is the party of the elites.

When you look at Taylor Swift, who's probably going to endorse Joe Biden from her plane, while they're also calling for the rest of Americans to ride on bicycles to get to work every day. The truth is, this election is going to be about security. It's national security, it's border security, it's financial security, and it's personal security. And the Democrats and Joe Biden failed on all of those issues. And the voters, and I got to soon forget that.

Black Americans, Hispanic Americans are hurting like every other American, but maybe they're hurting worse because the people that are crossing our border illegally, the 2.5 million, They're not buying homes in in Martha's vineyard. They're not. And if people want to know, there's a couple of reasons why Trump took control of the nomination. And is up in almost every national poll, even though it's far from done. The court case is yes.

But for the most part, all of his policies compare favorably to what Joe Biden has done. on the economics, even though the numbers are looking uh better for Joe Biden on on the border. on mid the Middle East policy, on Europe. On trade. On our military?

In mood. If you look at some of those things on oil, on pipelines. on the cost of energy. No. Donald Trump was not saying I need your gas stove.

Donald Trump was not saying, I'm not going to sell any more gas cars. That's this president, his climate's off. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmead. When I look at people who I know, were horrified by January 6th, who are Republicans in the House and the Senate, who have come around to dismissing it, to discounting the horror that they themselves felt as they, you know, Put Put themselves under desks as they ran down hallways as they tried to escape the mob coming at them.

There is something about Trump's hold on the Republican Party that is frightening. That is Hillary Clinton, who really doesn't, she really does seem befuddled. That Trump is still popular and has come all the way back, especially after 2022. A lot of his candidates did not work out. And now he's sitting on top.

He's just about locked up. Everything up should do it if Nikki Haley lasts till South Carolina, although she plans on staying through Super Tuesday. I don't know anybody who doesn't think he's got the nomination locked up, which is just shows he had a remarkable run to become president. then lost the Presidency. We know that everything happened in between, but then to try to go back would be historic.

Only one has actually done it and won. Jared Cohen joins us now, founder and CEO of Jigsaw. At Alphabet, former advisor to two Secretaries of State, Connor Lisa Rice and Hillary Clinton, and best-selling author of five books, his latest being Life After Power: Seven Presidents and Their Search for Purpose Beyond the White House. And Jarrett, thanks so much for coming in. Thanks, Brian.

So, first off, the attraction of wanting this job back. This is what Lindsey Graham told me. I met with Trump after he lost, and I told him. You don't need to do this. You don't need to run again.

Go golf. Go do a tour of the world. You don't need to do it. Your celebrity is going to pick up. But yet he wants to get back.

That's all he does to get back. From your experience studying what this position is about, And how hard it is to turn the page after you leave the White House? Do you understand it? Look, presidents don't want to think about their time in office as their penultimate act, right? They view it as their greatest act, which is why they don't want to give it up.

It's the most dramatic retirement in the world, which is why the founding fathers worried about what to do with ex-presidents. Alexander Hamilton pondered this question of: is it good for the Republic to have half a dozen men at any given time wandering around the rest of us like disenchanted ghosts or discontented presidents? And he wrote, and you wrote that quote before in your book. He writes it in Federalist 70s. What worries him?

Well, so I think what worried him is, remember, they were trying to construct a republic in response to a monarchy, right? There weren't a lot of examples that the Founding Fathers had for the peaceful transfer of power. What they were creating was something truly novel. They just had a lot of things on their plate. And I think what's amazing about this question of what to do with ex-presidents We never really formalized it in the Constitution.

We kind of winged it throughout history, and there's not a lot of good examples. What I do in the book is I basically highlight seven U. S. Presidents who managed to find a greater sense of purpose after they left the office.

So, one thing that struck people is that President Obama chose to stay in Washington. I know he's young. But a lot of people are saying, you know, I'm going to move on. You know, Kenny Bunkport, we're a 41 state, and Reagan went to his ranch, and LBJ went to his ranch in Texas. How unique is it that he stayed in Washington and seems to still be a player?

So, John Quincy Adams was the first one to stay in Washington, but the circumstances were very different. His wife was terribly ill, and it was too icy, and he couldn't make the journey back up to Quincy. But I think what you see with President Obama is something that a lot of former presidents, particularly in modern times, struggle with, which is they're constrained by the norm of one president at a time, but they just can't resist the urge to keep their toe in the water. They can't resist the urge to insert themselves. And the symbolism of a former president staying in Washington, to me, symbolizes and captures this idea of how difficult it is to let go.

Right. Maybe not great for the country, especially with people's perception. People's perception is that your older vice president's president, he is not at the top of his game. Who's calling the shots? Could it be that guy five miles away?

And by the way, it's very confusing. If you look at Jimmy Carter, right, you know, longest active post-presidency in history, 42 plus years, he's the answer to Hamilton's question of what to do with ex-presidents, which is they can either be a tremendous ally to their successors or they can be a nuisance and their most formidable adversary. And Carter managed to do both, but he didn't do it living in Washington. He still lived. He went back home to planes.

And look, there's almost kind of... I'm referring, Jared, to the fact that he went over to North Korea, got involved there trying to get hostage out. He went over to Haiti. He was over there trying to run elections internationally. And a lot of times, I think he got a Bill Clinton serves a little bit, too.

I mean, Carter is a tremendous contrast. And again, he represents the best and the worst of what ex-presidents can do.

So he goes over to North Korea as a messenger for the Clinton administration in 1994. And Clinton tells him, under no certain terms are you to make any policy. And Carter says, fine, fine. And then Clinton turns on CNN, and there's Carter announcing a nuclear breakthrough. Yeah.

By the way, when the U.S. when George H.W. Bush was readying to send troops in to get Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait, Jimmy Carter, who didn't want to see a war, secretly wrote to four of the five permanent members of the Security Council urging them to oppose his own country's policy. Unbelievable. Why'd you who are the seven and why'd you pick 'em?

So I chose Thomas Jefferson, John Quincy Adams, Grover Cleveland, William Howard Taft, Hoover Carter, and George W. Bush. Each one of those seven men had something that they were deeply principled about. They doubled down on those principles after they left the White House and ended up finding greater purpose than their time as president. Thomas Jefferson went on to found the University of Virginia.

It's one of only three things he includes on his tombstone. He doesn't include being president. John Quincy Adams had arguably the greatest second act in American history. He served nine terms in the House of Representatives, where in a much lower station, he found a much higher cause of abolition. Cleveland became president again, so kind of hard to argue with that.

William Howard Taft got his dream job as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court in his final decade of life. Herbert Hoover's story, you know, this is a... After William Howard Taft famously went against Taylor Roosevelt, challenged the guy he mentored, and Woodrow Wilson does becoming president. But what happened to him after? Yeah, so William Howard Taft, you know, he never didn't like being president.

He was actually happy. All he ever wanted was to serve on the Supreme Court. He turns it down three times in his life before becoming president. He nominates a record six justices to the Supreme Court, including a Chief Justice as president. The only reason he seeks reelection in 1912 is to deny his one-time friend and former mentor, Theodore Roosevelt, the presidency.

It's an amazing story because by the time Taft gets the nomination for the Republican Party, he's basically a political dead man, and his vice presidential running mate dies just a week before the election.

So you literally have Theodore Roosevelt as a third-party bullmoose challenging the incumbent president whose ticket is literally a political dead man and a physical corpse. And he splits the party and gives the election to Wilson. Tay Roosevelt actually got the second most votes as a third party. And you end up with Woodrow Wilson for eight years as president. And then look, Herbert Hoover is a man who lived to be 90 years old.

He's defined by four years that he was in office, defined by. The Great Depression. His story is a great one of recovery. He recaptures his status as a great humanitarian, which he had before being president. He recaptures his status as a great executive, reorganizing the executive branch.

And he recaptures his status in his lifetime as a bipartisan figure when Joe Kennedy calls on him to reconcile JFK and Richard Nixon after the 1960 election. Wow, pretty amazing. Because obviously, that was a controversial result. And it was important because the country was sort of in the height of the Cold War, showing that bipartisan unity was important. And I think the tragedy for Herbert Hoover, who's still getting kind of trashed and whose name is still political fodder, even in this election, he actually recovers his good name in his lifetime and then just gets trashed again posthumously.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Right. And you're talking about the fact that Donald Trump said, if the economy is going to collapse, I hope it collapses under him because I don't want to inherit something like Herbert Hoover. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: I mean, the FDR guys, they really did a job on Herbert Hoover. His 12 years of self-imposed political exile. I mean, it just felt like the FDR presidency would never end.

And it's interesting. Harry Truman resurrects Herbert Hoover in 1945 after FDR dies because he's staring the end of World War II on the horizon. And there's only one man in history who knows what it's like to be president of the United States and feed a world that's facing starvation.

So he and Herbert Hoover, they form this kind of unlikely partnership. But then every time there's an election, Truman goes out and talks about Hoover. And he talks about Hoover carts. And it's just this torturous experience for Hoover that his entire life, every single election, no matter what he does, he still becomes a soundbite on the electric trail. I think his great-granddaughter is Margaret Hoover, and I got to know her a little bit.

And she really is making that a mission to enough. And when this came up again, he says, we should correct the record on that. Yeah, first of all, a lot of stuff you inherit. Let's be honest. Look, Margaret talks about how her father, who was Herbert Hoover's grandson, gets a punched in the face on the schoolyard for being tied to a man that was his grandfather.

And look, Margaret's one of the great Americans. She and I have talked a lot about Herbert Hoover over the years, and we're on kind of a mission to make Herbert Hoover great again. Oh, that's awesome. All right. I'll join in that.

I love people that make a difference. And don't get they don't get credit for it.

So if you can rehab it, that's fantastic.

So you would one of my favorite all time people is George W. Bush. And I I al th I just thought the perfect name of his book was Decision Points because that's him. Like, oh, okay, you're critical of my decision. All right.

It's fine. Let me just put you in my shoes. And then, if you're still critical, that's fine too. But maybe you should learn a little bit about what my decision, what was at stake when I made the decisions I made. He wanted to be the education president.

Then 9/11 happened. And people say, well, you know what? There was a report over the summer that said Bin Laden's determined to attack in America. How did you miss that?

So the George Bush chapter in the book, I call it moving on. Because when I looked at the active living presidents, there was only one whose popularity had doubled. And I figure, you know, even for. And by the way, he's accomplished that by investing less in his legacy than any of his active contemporaries. It must drive Bill Clinton completely mad.

I love his library. I had a chance to see it. And look, his library is a reflection of his values. But I think part of why I wanted to understand why Bush's popularity had more than doubled. I think he has this reverence for the Washington principle of when it's over, it's over.

And you have to separate from politics after you've been president. It's aged well, given you have a former president, Donald Trump, who's now on the path to the nomination. And let's just say he's not quiet. But I also think that Americans have gotten nostalgic about this idea of a president who kind of reveres the Washington principle of one president at a time, and they like watching him paint, right? I mean, Bush is in his mid-70s.

70s, and they're seeing him, you know, kind of find a post-presidential voice through painting that allows him to advance causes that matter to the American people, like veterans without undermining his successors. Jared Cohen with us. He's got his book out now, Life After Power: Seven Presidents and Their Search for Purpose Beyond the White House. What I also think is fascinating, and I saw it up close, is. Bush forty-three is Tywa Bill Clinton.

who beat his father. And his father and Bill Clinton got along. And I would great to see Bill Clinton look up to 41. And they did a lot of things together. I think the American people love seeing that.

And then when Barack Obama became president, he was saying so many negative things about Bush forty three. And Gates writes about it in his book. He said, hey, guys, I'm here, because the Secretary of Defense carried over to the Obama administration. Not, you know, a lot of stuff that you're saying is flat out wrong, and a lot of decisions we made are a lot better than you think, and we'll kind of stick up for it. And 43 kept quiet.

Always kept quiet. And then when it was time to dedicate the library, President Obama shows up and he says something, if I can remember correctly, he says, You might disagree with George Bush. But it's impossible not to like George Bush. I think that's right. Look, out of the 45 men who served as president 46 times, because Cleveland did it twice, only one president has been so dogmatically disciplined about fading from politics.

Bush never mentions his successors by name. He never hits the campaign trail publicly. He doesn't insert himself. He did once with Jab, right? But it was actually recorded.

It was a private event. And he described it as one of the most cringeworthy moments of his post-presidency. And it's a moment that he reminded himself that you have to be disciplined not just in public, but also disciplined in private. And George W. Bush, look, look, the symbolism of two former foes coming together is also a reminder that this very idea of a former president, it's a feature of a democracy.

It's not a bug. And particularly at this moment, people may not like the current set of circumstances, but there's a lot of countries where you don't get to be a former president. Or if you are, you're either in prison for life or suffering some kind of other ill fate. Right. You know who also had those qualities that never became president is John McCain.

And I know that when he was able to give credit to Barack Obama after he lost that crushing defeat to him, and he just said able to outline that moment, I think it's just so important to learn how to lose. Bush 41 knew how to lose. He hated losing. We got those tapes later on where he talked about how he thought he let everybody down by losing to Bill Clinton. But he lost with grace.

Yeah, I think that's right. By the way, you know, it's interesting, it's a worthy time to reflect on Grover Cleveland as well, because this election is likely going to feature the only. Can I talk about Grover Cleveland when we come back? Yes. All right.

So, Jared Cohen, it's great to have him here. He's an advisor to Condoleezza Rice and Hillary Clinton, best-selling author. A perspective about the times we're going through, because some of which is unprecedented to a degree, but not as much as you think. Don't move. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead.

If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, we are back. The author of Life After Barrage, Jared Cohen, with us right now. He's got a great book out.

It's called Seven Presidents and Their Search for Purpose Beyond the White House. Grove of Cleveland. We keep hearing about this. First time we're seeing a president. Very close to getting back into office as President Trump.

He wins, he loses, and he wants to win again. How rare is this?

So, first of all, historically, the Grover Cleveland chapter is called the comeback. And historically, former presidents have not made good presidential candidates. This 2024 election is likely to be the first and only time since 1892 where two former presidents have had a rematch as nominees. And who was that in 1892?

So it's Grover Cleveland versus Benjamin Harrison. And Cleveland, when he's elected in 1884, is the first Democrat elected president since James Buchanan before the Civil War. And what people don't realize about Cleveland is he never loses the popular vote.

So that's already different from the 2024 election. He actually threw away the presidency in 1888 on a principle of standing strong on a low tariff. And he said he's never been happier than when he threw away the presidency. And he also entered office as a bachelor at 49 years old, married a 21-year-old who's the youngest first lady in American history. And he never wants to be a very good person.

He doesn't fantasize about going back into office. The only reason he tries to make a comeback is similarly on principle. He's worried the Harrison administration is driving the economy into the ground. He's worried about a rising tide of imperialism, and he's worried about runaway populace within his own party and within the Republican Party. And so he makes a sort of reluctant comeback, but he wins the popular vote three times in a row.

Wow. And so he becomes president again. And somewhere in between there, Teddy Roosevelt is cutting his teeth and getting ready. And the turn of the century would be the rise and the beginning of the end of imperialism, right? That's right.

And look, look, you know, Grover, what I say in the book is Grover Cleveland's comeback is a cautionary tale. Right? You know, first of all, comebacks are easy to ponder. They're hard to accomplish. And when you accomplish, it's rarely the same and it's sweet the second time around.

The context changes. You come in overconfident. You think you know how to do it. The dynamics are different. The day Grover Cleveland takes the oath of office for his second non-consecutive term as president, he inherits the worst economic depression in the country's history.

American settlers in Hawaii. Have set in motion a process that would lead to the annexation of the islands, and he feels a lump on the top of his mouth and realizes that he may have terminal cancer. Wow. Uh couple of things. One thing Trump says on and off camera.

I know exactly what to do now. And one thing Bill Clinton expressed is frustration, because I get it. I know exactly how to do this show. Same with Barack Obama. He's like, I get it.

It takes a while, especially it hurts harder now, I think, today. It takes a while, but they they seem to get it.

So Trump can't wait to put people in power again. Yeah, look, I think the second, if you. There's no ramp up time. There's no ramp up time, but a lot has changed in the four years. The interregnum is an interregnum that a former president doesn't have a front row seat for.

They're not in it day to day, right? They're both nostalgic for the last time around, and their frame of reference reflects a set of biases and assumptions from the last time around, and they bring that to the second presidency. And so, you know, Grover Cleveland's second presidency was not a pleasant one. Again, this is a man who won the popular vote three times. He left office the second time, deeply unpopular, deeply depressed, and just having lost valuable years that he could have spent with his young bride.

Wow, this is such an important book, and it seems like it's all in your head, Jared. It's just a matter of just putting it into writing. Jared Cohen, Life After Power, Seven Presidents and Their Search for Purpose, Beyond the White House. Get it wherever you get books. Jared, thanks so much.

Thanks, Brian.

Back in. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Thanks so much for being here. Everybody, it's the Brian Kilming Chow.

I come to you from Middown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world, and once again, this is at the It's where the big story in New York is also the big story in Texas, is also the big story in Washington, the big story in Arizona, and I'm sure California if they had some clear-thinking politicians, and that is immigration, the breakdown of our border, and the ripple effects through it, and how other people say, Wait a second, I'm somebody who's working class. I'm seeing so much of my paycheck going out the door. I see, I know we have homeless and veterans that can need some funding. Why are we letting everybody in, doing their laundry, converting hotels? Why is mayors begging governors for millions of dollars like happening here in New York?

I'm going to discuss out with Mark Teesson as well as Sean Alexander. I'll discuss with him and have some fun. The Seattle Seahawks all-time leading rusher and outstanding running back at the University of Michigan. He's out in Las Vegas. He's going to give us an idea of what's going to happen at the Super Bowl, which we'll all be watching over the weekend.

Or, at least, in front of a television while we talk about other things.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if the Supreme Court said we're removing the front-running Republican candidate from the ballot. And I think it would be very, very disruptive in this country. Thank you, David Axelrod, for talking since.

Trump trials begin right now, and Joe's own document drama starts today or tomorrow or sometime this week. Robert Hur is going to be done with his investigation. We're going to look at the challenges outside the campaign trail for both frontrunners. Number two. He said that nobody in the military told him he could have left a smaller number of troops in Afghanistan.

And then he was contradicted by his own military saying, no, he was briefed about that. This is what happens when the president cannot recall his briefings. It's deadly serious. The true Ari, also, he could be lying. 2024 gaps piling up for Joe Biden.

The more we see him, the more I feel America and Democrats are getting closer to panic mode as minorities now are running for the hills from the party and the president. Number one.

Well they all were. Joe Biden, the mayor, the governor, they all felt that open borders gave them new constituencies. And they called anybody racist or xenophobic who wanted to secure borders.

So they've got a problem. They can't square the circle. Yep, down goes the border bill. Plan B is now just emergency funding for Ukraine, Taiwan and Israel. What does it mean for the border crisis?

And will there be around two on impeaching Majorkis? We're going to examine. Let's bring in Mark Thiessen because we need to get smarter, and that's what we do. We read the Washington Post when he writes a column. We also know chief speechwriter for Bush, contributor here at this channel, and a fellow at AEI.

Mark, welcome back. Good to be back with you, Brian. Mark, real quick, your thoughts on today's Supreme Court hearing on whether the president should stay on the ballot or not or whether he's guilty as an insurrectionist? Oh, it was a matter of law and a matter of politics, right?

So some to be states and state courts can't decide who's an insurrectionist. There's no due process, right? The finding has to be made either by a court in a criminal trial or by Congress through impeachment.

Well, guess what? Donald Trump was acquitted in his impeachment trial, and he hasn't been even charged. with insurrection. Actually, the January sixth committee recommended that he be charged with inciting insurrection, and Jasper Smith didn't include that charge. It's a law in the books, eighteen U.

S. Code twenty three eighty three, which makes it a federal crime to incite, assist or participate in a rebellion or insurrection against the federal government. And he's not charged with that.

So how can A state court The side that the side that Donald Trump Participated in an insurrection against the federal government over which it has no jurisdiction. It's ridiculous. So, if this thing is going to be thrown away, I would be shocked if the justices upheld this decision. But then there's the politics of it, which is. Yeah, the Democrats keep telling us that they're trying to save democracy.

But they and but we have to burn it down in order to save it. It's basically what their message is. You know, we have to deny the American people the right to vote for the candidate of their choice. We have to you know they're suing right and it's not just Trump, by the way, they're suing to keep no labels. Off of the ballot in states across the country because they don't want to have a third-party challenge.

So it's who's the party that's the enemy of democracy? I'm going to add to that, Mark. I talked to RFK's people. And they are getting unbelievable pushback from the Democratic Party, nothing from Republicans. Yeah.

No, 100%. Because the Democrats know that if the American people are given a free choice, they have so screwed things up. And to segue to your other topic, which I know we're going to discuss, which is the border. They are the authors of their own disaster, right? Because they watched the Democratic Party, Joe Biden and the rest of the Democratic Party watched in 2016 as Donald Trump wrote the issue of illegal immigration to the White House.

And so they decided as soon as they got back into power, what did they do? They unleashed the worst border crisis in the history of the country, which is now powering Donald Trump back into the Oval Office. It's like, are you stupid? Great. Mark, obviously, you're used to hosting your own show because those are two great topics.

But I want David Acherod to make you feel better. I want you, David Actorod, to make you feel better about the Democratic Party or at least sober minds on the other side, Cut 20. And I think it would be very, very Very disruptive in this country. I think it will create a huge reaction, and that worries me. It worries me because, partly because of Donald Trump, there's so much cynicism about our institutions already.

And, you know, the strength of our democracy are these institutions. You can argue that, well, that's why you have to go the way the Colorado Court suggests. But I think, in the minds of many voters, this would be a subversion and it would. Draw a very strong reaction. He's trying to be nice.

He's saying, What are you thinking? And by the way, his president secured the border, and his president deported 3 million illegal immigrants to stay on the topic I switched to because I'm hosting your show. But no, he's 100% right. Look, this, this, it, it. what why is Donald Trump let's say you believe that Donald Trump wanted to hold on to the White House, let's say you believe all the that he's unfit for office, that he'd do things in office if he could, that would be detrimental to the country.

What protects against that? Our institutions, right?

So if you think January 6th was an insurrection, what stopped the insurrection? Our institutions. Everybody did their jobs. The vice president did his job. The House did its job and certified the election.

The states, all the judges, including Trump-appointed judges, rejected his cases and did their job. All the state legislatures did their jobs. Everybody did their jobs. The institutions held, right? And so the Democrats' response to Trump is: let's tear down the institutions.

And it's not just about this. It's like if Democrats win in November, Joe Biden is elected, and Republicans don't take back the Senate. Kirsten Sinema and Joe Manchin won't be there anymore. They're going to get rid of the filibuster. They're going to pack the courts.

They're going to make Puerto Rico and DC states so they can get four new guaranteed Democratic senators. They are a party that is determined to tear down the institutions that hold everything together. I care more about saving the institutions than I do about stopping Donald Trump. And if you're a liberal Democrat or a conservative Republican, you should feel the same way.

So your view on what Senator Sinema, Senator Murphy, and Senator Lankford put out this immigration bill, which just went down with 41 Republicans voting against it.

So, I wrote a column in the Washington Post about it and basically saying it's a bad bill. Here's the argument for it. Here's the argument against it. Argument for it: it's the best you're going to get. It's a compromise, but you know what?

We're never going to pass HR two because let's say Donald Trump gets elected and we keep the House, we're not going to get a 60 vote filibuster-proof Senate. And so that bill is never going to pass. And so Democrats right now want to compromise because they have to because they want to help Joe Biden and because they want to they want a Ukraine aid. They'll have no incentive to cooperate now.

So whatever you get under Trump would be worse.

So that's the argument for it.

So take the deal. It's the best deal you're gonna get. Here's why that's wrong. It's worse than nothing because it would actually restrict the power of the next president. To secure the border.

Because right now, The President has Blanket authority to decide who can come into the country and who cannot. The Supreme Court upheld that in Trump versus Hawaii when several states sued him over the so-called Muslim ban. And they said that he is that the only restriction on the president's power is a declaration that is detrimental to allowing certain people into the country is detrimental to the interests of the United States. That's it.

So he could shut down, the president could shut down the border tomorrow with an executive order. This law, in an effort to force Joe Biden to shut down the border, says you can have emergency authority to shut down the border for 280 days in the first year if it gets to 4,000 people. And then that goes down in the next year to 230 and the next year to 180. Those are authorizations, but if Trump gets into office and this is the law, they become restrictions. He can only shut down the border.

For 280 days, and only when it gets to 4,000 people. Because now Congress has superseded the previous law that gave him blanket authority.

So this was actually. off a president who cared about securing the border from properly securing the border. Understood. That's fascinating.

So now it looks said Joe Biden's thinking about doing executive orders on the border. I can't find anywhere what exactly he's going to do, but he's not he understands doing a jiu-jitsu and saying Republicans blew an opportunity to shut down the border is really not going to fly. Whoa.

So let's let's let's think about that. He has broken the record for illegal crossings every year of his presidency. He broke the record in 2021, then he broke it again in 2022, then he broke it again in 2023. But he's telling us that because in 2024 the Republicans didn't pass this bill, they're responsible for the disaster of the border. Who the hell is going to believe that?

Nobody. Nobody. It's absurd. It's absurd. But so it's going to be fascinating.

I'm very curious to see what's going to happen. But I'm also stunned. Every day I'm reminded how dumb it was to get rid of Speaker McCarthy. He never would have put on that impeachment of Mayorkas without the votes, without Steve Scalise to make sure. And maybe it might not have gone forward anyway because it's going to stop in the Senate.

It's all pure symbolism. What are your thoughts about Johnson and that defeat a couple of days ago? It was a it's a big blunder, and they knew they didn't have the votes because I mean, Mike Gallagher told them he wasn't going to vote for it, and the other the other two members didn't. And quite frankly, they're right. You know, we got to stop impeaching everybody.

You know, if you replace my orcas, He's just going to replace them with somebody else who's just like another Majorcis. The person responsible for the border is Joe Biden. It's his policies. That Majorkis is carrying out. We gotta just stop impeaching everybody over policy disagreements.

There's no high crime and misdemeanor going on. And the reason Gallagher voted against it is because all the arguments that Republicans made against impeaching Trump, they were violating and impeaching Maorkis. I hate Maorcus. He's a disaster. He should be fired.

He should Joe Biden should be fired. They they should all by the American people. But impeachment isn't the answer. We can't just impeach everybody we disagree with. That's what they did to Trump.

And that's the problem with all these things that the Democrats wanna do, is that when you violate the norms, Then the norms don't just get violated for that one instance, and it gives license to the other side to violate the norms. And so, you know, if we if they succeed in taking Trump off with the 14th Amendment, well, guess what? Republicans are going to keep Democrat to use it, try to use it, keep Democrats off. It's just our institutions are what separate us from the rest of the world. Our Constitution is the most beautiful document, perfect document ever written in the history of humankind.

Stop. Stop trying to destroy it in order to stop it, in order to get your political ends.

So I want you to hear Joe Biden. This is one gaffe after another.

Now that he has to speak every other day, it is getting so alarming. First, this, cut four. There is some movement. And I don't wanna I don't wanna Well maybe choose my words. There's some movement.

There's been A response. From The uh There's better response. the opposition. But um Yes, I'm sorry. From Hamas.

He forgot Hamas. He forgot Hamas and was helped out by the reporter. in one of the few times he had a press conference and reluctantly took two questions.

So I would like every American to listen to that. And I was watching Hannity the other night, and he went back and showed what Biden had said about immigration during his debates with Trump. And you compare that man with the man on the debate stage with Trump. And it's like two different people. The cognitive decline is so dramatic between then and now.

And it's like, do you really think this man is going to be the president in five years if he wins reelection? There's no chance this guy is going to be in the Oval Office five years from now. It's going to become President Harris. Kamala Harris is going to be the president of the United States if Republicans lose this election.

So we all know that some people don't want to write about what we just talked about.

Now understand, they're not going to be able to prevent themselves from noticing this. This was just a couple of days ago in Las Vegas, Cut Five. Right after I was elected, I went to what they call a G seven meeting, all the NATO leaders I was in I was in the south of England. And I sat down and I said, America's back. And Nita Ron from Germany, I mean from France looked at me So we already heard that stupid story at least 25 times, but now instead of Macron, he says Min Arand.

He thinks it's Germany or France. He can't make up the difference. And then yesterday. He said at a New York fundraiser, he twice referred to the late German Chancellor Helmut Kohl as former Chancellor Angeler Merkel, who was supposed to be Angela Merkel. And instead of giving the French leader Macron credit for it, he says he was saying it to Helmut Kohl.

What the hell is going on here? You know, any one of these in isolation wouldn't be such a big deal. I mean, look, I was on the air the other day with Martha and I or maybe Dana and I said I refer I was trying to refer to Iran and I said Iraq. I mean, we all slip up on the air sometimes, and that's one thing. It's the pattern of this stuff.

And it's the inability to, it's not just losing one sentence. or one word in a sentence. That that first clip you played. He he, I mean, literally was painful to listen to it. It's almost worse on radio because you're just listening to it and it's just uh you know, it's not even a word salad, there are no words coming out.

This man is not cognitively fit. And we are in one of the worst and most dangerous periods in American history right now. We've got war in Europe, we've got war in the Middle East. We are on the precipice potentially of war in Europe. Mark is getting me very upset now.

But unfortunately, I'm going to get a hard break. It's not like your podcast.

Well, you're going to come up on my podcast and we're going to continue the conversation. And the name of the podcast is what the hell is going on, and it's great. Mark, you got me really even more worried, but don't worry. Jake Sullivan's there to straighten it all out. Market, the real president.

Thank you. Back in a moment. Expanding your knowledge base. It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. Radio that makes you think, This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

So, listen, I'm trying to get some calls in. We're looking at the arguments now on behalf of Donald Trump and Colorado. Donald Trump are trying to stay on the ballot. He's an allergy of the Supreme Court. It's fascinating.

Alex, you're in Brooklyn listening on WABC. What's in your mind, Alex? Hey, good morning, Brian. Thanks for taking the call. I think that Republicans impeaching Majorca is a stupid idea, even if they had the votes in the House, because One reason why you want to impeach somebody is for accountability, they don't have the votes in the Senate, they can't impeach them.

Another reason, which is why the Democrats did it to Donald Trump in the House, impeaching him, is because you you want to form public opinion and they wanted to turn Trump into this despicable person that was impeached three times. And or you want to draw attention to an issue, but in this case, everybody's focused in on the border. Democrats, because of the bill they wanted to pass. And the you know, voters. Yeah, we were already thinking about it, Alex, right?

Uh, we're that's what that's really what Gallagher was saying, but it's amazing that they'd go through with this and not get their house in order. Gallagher's among leadership, felt like he's some fringe guy that doesn't come to the office, they could have just asked him. Yeah, thanks so much. Appreciate it. It should be overwhelming, too.

They got a slightly get something done. You're up for re-election, aren't you? Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. It's an honor to be able to go against them.

I I think he is. Um Well the top coaches in the National Football League, obviously. This isn't just a one-year thing for him. He's been doing this.

now for a while.

So um I have a ton of respect for him. He is a great offensive mind, but he's also Very sharp from a defensive standpoint on special teams, which makes him a great head football coach. Ton of respect for him. Look forward to the challenge. That is Andy Reid talking about going against again against Kyle Shanahan.

Now Kyle Shanahan's forty-four. Andy Reid's the oldest coach in the NFL, but he's since Bill Belichicks was out of job. And he's not ready to retire yet. Kyle Shanahan is considered one of the smartest people in the league, grew up obviously under his dad. Loved it, obsessed by it, and he seems to be not over having lost the Super Bowl in last time.

He remembers, I think they blew a 10-point lead in the fourth quarter. Joining us now is Sean Alexander, 2005 NFL MVP, outstanding rusher, the Seahawks, all-time leading rusher, also starred for the Redskins. And he joins us now from Las Vegas. Sean, welcome to Brian Kilmeicha. Hey, how are you doing, man?

The Super Bowl is live and ready to go. What do you think? I mean, how many Super Bowls have you been to, Sean? You know, I actually went to of course, the one I played in, I went to the first two when I'm my rookie in second year to kind of get myself like saying, hey, we're going to get there. You know, we're not good not a good program.

But then since I've retired, I've been to the Seahawks. uh win in New York into the loss. Um You know, in Arizona, so those have been the two balls I've been to.

Now, I usually come out and do Radio Row and help promote some causes. But this year, I'm actually going to the game because my middle son turns 13. And I said, Son, what do you want? What do you want for your birthday? And he said, I want to go to the Super Bowl.

And I was like, oh, let's do it.

So he'll be out here Saturday and then we'll go watch the game Sunday. And so many of you guys, you go out to the game, you'll talk to you, you'll hook up with your former, your friends, your athletes, your opponents, have a great time, but you don't stay for the game.

So people should realize most guys don't, most of the players don't stay for the game.

So you guys are there.

So, Chunt, give me an idea. Vegas, I hear it's pouring rain out. How how how what is it like? Are you there now? Yeah, I am though.

It it's kind of wild. Like, uh, this kind of reminds me how when we were in Seattle, like, it would rain during the day and then when we come time for the game, it would stop raining. And so Um that's kinda how it's been for me. I don't know if the rain just keeps missing me, but every time I leave buildings it's not raining, but the ground's wet.

So so uh so it m it must have been colder on Monday, but uh But Wednesday and today it's been pretty awesome outside.

So I want you to hear, you understand what rhetoric is and rote answers are. And there's certain times players answer questions from the press from the heart. I get the sense that Travis Kelsey really, really wants this game in every fiber of his being, Cup 43. I've been on a mission ever since I won my first Super Bowl. We made it back to the Super Bowl the year after 2019, obviously lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

That's motivated me to get back to this point right here.

So you'll hear me say this a lot, but I want this one more than I've ever wanted a Super Bowl in my life. And it's because the type of team we have, the people that we have in this thing, but also because that tier of teams that have done it twice have gone down in history as some of the greats.

So is that rhetoric or is that in your view, Sean, from the heart? If I'm playing against him, I'm using it.

So You know, I you know, in our Superbowl, we had we had Jeremy Stevens, the young tight end, and he just came out there and he just spoke from the heart and was like, Man, we we want to be the best team ever and Joey Porter, you know, Steve was, you know, loudmouth linebacker, says, Oh, who's that guy talking? and created like a buzz. where, you know, we were the better team, but it gave them a l even more of a chip that they needed.

So I just always play the game of if we're gonna if we're gonna speak, we're gonna talk X's and O's, and we're not gonna talk about desires because it keeps it keeps everybody out of that who do you think you are posture. And so um so yeah, so the Niners are gonna use it, um, but the Chiefs now they can use it um to say, well, man, like our guy said it, so now we're gonna go we're gonna go stand for that. Like if he wants it more than anything else, we all want it more than anything else. And and that's the cool thing about sports. talk all the talk, but then eventually them pads gotta pop.

So a couple of things that goes on just because You just notice things. For example, the Ravens look like the best team in football. They absolutely crushed the San Francisco 49ers on the biggest roll. Even the Steelers, until they took their starters out, they were about to beat them again without their quarterback. And then they would just seem to be outcoached in the championship game.

It seemed like Jackson was told: go win without wide receivers and a running game. Do you believe that was schemed away from him? And did Spagnola out-coach that was he just out-coached there? And could something similar happen on Sunday? You know, coaching is a big part of it.

And I think that everybody everybody does their X's and O's. I I in mine, I had the great Mike Colmgren, you know, hopefully be in the Hall of Fame one day. Um, you know, he's a great coach great mind you know from Joe Montana to Steve Young to Brett Favre, we get to Super Bowl. And you know, where I carried the ball 28, 30 times every game, we got in there and our game plan was to throw it.

So, why? He's like, they're going to stack the line. And I'm thinking, Trust the coach. And so that happens. That happens where, you know, what gets you there, you think, oh, it's going to be so wide open if we do this.

And it backfires. And so I think that's what happened with the Ravens. You know, they're going to mean well, but like. Usually the Ravens, they run the ball, they play defense, their quarterback is accurate with the pass, and then he scrambles and does one or two wild plays. puts them in a place to win it.

And they didn't do it. And so now you're like, man, why would y'all do it a different way? And it's and it's because great coaches want to find the thing that they know they can do um better and the whole the other team and it just happened to be the thing that they don't do the best in. Understood. So Sean, one thing you're talking about is Stand Together Foundation.

It's a philanthropic organization committed to breaking the cycle of poverty in America by driving change from within communities.

So how do you transform that mission into results? Man, it's been so fun to be with the Stand Together Foundation. I'm an ambassador for them, and it's About 800 of some of the most successful businessmen, women, and philanthropic leaders in the country. And they tackle some of the country's biggest issues. And so one of the things that I'm really honored to be a part of, Excited, is how they tackle juvenile justice.

And so I'm a been helping promote Cafe Momentum And that's a a restaurant that was led by award-winning chef Chad Hauser. Chad was amazing. He um he uh had a heart to shift w how people viewed the kids in the juvenile justice system and they were calling these kids throwaways and he thought, man, like let me go do my the good deed and to teach some of the kids and he realized that these kids just needed um people around them. They needed some people that remind them of their true potential. And uh and he brought in He got rid of his restaurant, sold his shares, and started Cafe Momentum.

And with Cafe Momentum, he uh You get pre-board environmental social workers, psychologists, tutors. And the next thing you know, these kids are doing they're going through the year program and they're becoming successful.

So recivitism in our country, most cities is forty five to fifty percent. That means you're going to go back to prison when you leave your your juvenile your teenage years.

Well, the civicism for kids with Cathominum's thousands now is eleven. 11%. And so I told Chad, I said, Chad, why don't we put one in every NFL city? And so we started that journey together. And so now started in Dallas.

Now we have Pittsburgh.

Now we have Nashville. The Denver Broncos have jumped in for Denver and they've donated money and time and energy and players. We got the Atlanta Falcons are on the same way, so we'll have one in Atlanta. It's just growing. We have Houston, Tampa, Miami all in the hold for next year, the next couple years.

So the goal of What if we could just change how people do juveniles? What if we could change these kids that 16 years old that might make mistakes. What if they're no longer throwaways and they're actually called great potential? And so, you know, I always tell everybody, like, who would want to be judged for something stupid you did at 16? I'm like, no one would even want to know what we did at 16, right?

You know, let alone something that maybe deserves punishment, but it shouldn't cost you everything, you know, in your 20s or 30s.

So, Sean, where you should talk to, Sean. Jellyroll. You go to the Cu the country music store? He also went to juvenile prison. He yogi this guy is one of the hottest musicians in the country, was in juvenile prison and he turned his whole life around.

He spends all his time free time working in prisons, and he says nobody denies that they belong there. But they just don't know where they're going from there.

So, to provide hope.

So, that would be a you someone's going to bring that up to you, and you're going to know what I'm talking about. He's actually going to be featuring a Super Mo commercial, too. Really? I'm going to go look him up, and then maybe I'll get to my connections. I was just talking with.

Roger Goodell and some of the stuff that we're doing, and everybody's excited that we can go impact some more lives. You know, football does so many great things for so many people, but the ones who can't, maybe our voice could help them. Absolutely. So, let me ask you: this is a general question, but in 2020, everybody's talking about race and George Floyd, and where we're at right now.

Now, in 2024, we're not really talking about people taking a knee. People are standing for the national anthem. In your mind, have things gotten better?

Well, I think that football is always about the brotherhood, and I think that. as I would say, the enemy, the real enemy is always to divide and conquer. And so any time that we are trading division, it's never going to work. And so people can have different opinions about anything and everything, but it should never divide. Like that's part of the great thing about being human, is that we're all gonna think a little bit different.

That's the great thing about our country, is that everybody can be a little bit different and we're all still this big American family. And so so, yeah, so um, all the George Floyd stuff, you know It hurt the American family, it hurt the football family. But just like any good family, people are going to forgive and we're going to move on and we're going to get better. And that's where we are right now. He's the eighth leading Russian in NFL history.

Sean Alexander, former NFL MVP and Super Bowler. Sean, thanks so much. It's a great thing to do. And the Stand Together Foundation, if people want to help out, where do they go? Go to CafeMomentum.org backslash Super Bowl.

And he's going to be at the game with his son. Sean, lastly, what do you think? How does this play out? Man, it's really wild because I've got great relationships with a lot of the 49ers, and I usually go with the Super Bowl with my heart. My boys, they're like, oh, Pachenko, that's the one.

He's your guy. They love how hard he runs. And And then you got Pastor Mahomes over there, and you got that great Kency. I mean, like, people don't understand, like. The points that they are not giving up is like legendary right now.

And I think that, um, when you're going against that, like It's hard to bet against that. It's hard to bet against a great defense with a running back that can control the clock with maybe one of the best quarterbacks ever.

So I think I'm leaning towards Kansas City winning, even though I wouldn't mind the 49ers. And you can't look past McCaffrey, one of the most dynamic running backs around, right? Man, that's my guy, man.

So proud of him. You know, I remember when he was a freshman at Stanford. Lance Taylor, who's now a coach in Western Michigan. He was a freshman at Bama when I was a senior, so that's like my little brother. He calls me up and says, Hey, bro, I've got this guy at Stanford.

You know, he's a freshman, but he's a dude. And uh and so from then on I would always send Texas, to Lance, to Christian, just watching him grow.

So I've been really proud of him. You know, just like any other uncle or nephew would do. You know what I mean? Like, man, like, just go get it. Go get one.

It's so everything. Right. And also, he's just helps it. He's solid muscle from head to toe. I want you to hear what Patrick Mahomes said because people talk about the 49ers intensity.

I'll leave you with this. I just want to get your impression. Cut 39. As a team having facing San Francisco years ago, which is the big quality to overcome this time? I think it's just their intensity.

I mean, they play hard every single play. They bring energy. And we know it's to take our best football. And so for us, we just have to come in with that intensity to go out there and play our best. If we don't, we'll lose the game.

So he's got to match the intensity. Final thought? You know what? I think Patrick's trying to lull people to sleep. That's the old SEO.

There's some great kind of talk. I love that. You know what I mean? That was excellent. He's like, oh, yeah, that's just so intense.

He's wanting them to sleep. He's. He's the most dynamic quarterback that that um that's playing today. And uh and uh and he's gonna come out fired up and he knows it. Go get him.

Sean Alexander, enjoy this week. Enjoy the game with your son. Hey, thank you, man. Joe Hawks. All right, you got it.

When we come back, I'll be able to squeeze in some calls I see up there. 1866-408-7669. And I'm going to play a little bit more from Joe Biden this week. Not good. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis because Mandy you need to know, it's Brian Kilmead.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. She's definitely brought a lot of new faces to the game and it's been fun to experience that. She seems to be enjoying the games. She's a part of Chief's Kingdom right now.

It's fun seeing her enjoy the game of football, knowing that it's kind of new to her life. Right, a little bit more about the Super Bowl. That was Travis Kelsey talking about his. Uh, first girlfriend, or no, excuse me, his famous girlfriend, I should add. Just real quick on what's going on in Capitol Hill and what's going on right now.

We're watching the Supreme Court debating openly, just audio only for some reason. I hope we get over that soon. Audio only, we're hearing the debates on whether Donald Trump should be kicked off the ballot, whether he's an insurrectionist. I think this is a done deal. I hope it's a 9-0 decision to leave him on all ballots and we can stop this.

But the other big story is the Democrats are in a meeting right now, and they're at a retreat, and they're trying to get their game plan together. And they are losing two things: they're losing Hispanic votes, and they're losing black votes. And he never thought that was possible. Hillary Vaughan was with Hank Johnson, who's a black congressman from Georgia, cut to. A different poll from NBC yesterday shows that half of Democratic voters have concerns about President Biden's physical and mental health.

Is that a problem for Democrats? No, I think for the most part people understand that Joe Biden is in good health, both mentally and physically. He's making great decisions. Of course, nobody is perfect, and so I don't agree with him on everything that he does. But compared to Donald Trump, he's a shoe-in for re-election.

The only problem is, Congressman, he's losing every single poll. A battleground state, although he's tied in Wisconsin. More from Johnson on race. Cut one. A new Gallup poll out today says that Democrats have record low support from Hispanic and black voters.

Why do you think that is? Polls are you can get them a dime a dozen.

So who who is responsible for producing that poll? It's from Gallup, and it's shown that under President Biden, support among black Americans and Hispanics has significantly dropped while he's president. Is that his fault?

Well, if if that is true. It may be true today, but I don't think it'll be true in November of this year. I don't know. I don't feel any better having heard that. Do you?

Joe Biden is not strong in the stump. He's not going to change people's minds by his decisions. Nobody's touching the border now. It's falling apart, costing us millions. We'll see what's going to happen.

But all together, it is a scary situation. And that's why so many people, when I go out and about, people were talking to me, even last time I was at the Ranger game. People were going, there's no way Joe Biden will be the nominee, right? I'm a Democrat. There's no way they're going to leave him there.

Here's Ari Feiser, cut seven. If I'm Donald Trump, I will remind everybody that it's highly likely that Kamala Harris will be the President of the United States if Joe Biden somehow is able to win the election. That will scare a lot of people. But I want to go to this issue, Sean, because it's so much worse than him not remembering the name of Hamas. If you had actually begun that tape about 10 seconds earlier, what you would have witnessed was the United States President struggling to recall the briefing he got about the status of negotiations between Israel and Hamas.

He could not remember the details. You saw the wheels turning in his head, the cobwebs trying to be swept out of the way. He couldn't remember it. He was struggling. It's concerning.

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Hi everyone, Brian Kilmead here. Thanks so much for listening. We come to you from Middown Manhattan. We're about six blocks away. We watched two cops get beat up.

We caught on film. We're still trying to find the illegal immigrants that made that happen. We're following that. We're also following the ongoing audio. Proceedings in front of the Supreme Court as Colorado tries to keep Donald Trump off the ballot.

If this is successful, about eight other states will try to knock him off the ballot. And they'll probably be successful. But it looks like, and I hope, these arguments are pretty strong, and it's a 9-0 decision to leave them just there. We also know today that Governor Greg Gabby will hold a press conference in a few hours and talk about the situation at Eagle Pass. And Donald Trump will hold a press conference about these proceedings after they're done.

It's all about the 14th Amendment. Is he the Jefferson, should he be treated like Jefferson Davis and banned from running for office? This hour, we're going to be joined by Matt Continenti of the Washington Free Beacon, giving us inside Washington and this race. And Brian Hook is standing by. He served as senior advisor to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, senior advisor to Mike Pompeo.

He's got an expertise all over the Middle East, especially Iran.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I'm trying to imagine what it would be like if the Supreme Court said we're removing the front-running Republican candidate from the ballot. And I think it would be very, very disruptive in this country. That's not the legal argument.

That's the real argument. Trump trial shows owned document drama. We have both. Robert Hurr is done. He's about to submit his findings on the investigation into the confidential documents that were kept in various residents of Current President Joe Biden.

What is it going to mean for his fortunes, as well as the latest on this Trump trial? Number 10. He said that nobody in the military told him he could have left a smaller number of troops in Afghanistan. And then he was contradicted by his own military saying, no, he was briefed about that. This is what happens when the president cannot recall his briefings.

It's deadly serious. 2024, gas piling up for Joe Biden. The more we see him, the more I hear him, the more we feel, Americas feel, and Democrats must feel closer to panic as minorities are running for the hills instead of voting for Joe or the Democrats. Number one.

Well, they all were. Joe Biden, the mayor, the governor, they all felt that open borders gave them new constituencies. And they called anybody racist or xenophobic who wanted to secure borders.

So they've got a problem. They can't square the circle. Yeah, there you go. That is Victor Davis Hansen. Down goes the border bill.

Plan B is now an emergency funding for Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel. What does it mean for the border crisis? And will there be a round two on a Peach May Arcus? We will discuss it.

Now, Brian Hook, welcome to the Brian Kilmey Show. Appreciate you being here. Thanks, Brian.

Great to be with you. Oh, man, there's so much at stake. And we're watching evidently yesterday, if we're to believe the reports that I do, that Kitab Hezbollah, the leader, was just taken out and back just outside Baghdad. We know our the militias that we support in Jordan in Syria were hit. And we know the Houthi rebels haven't stopped.

What's the best offense forward, Brian, being that this is your area of expertise right now in this Middle East in flames?

Well, look, I served four years in the Trump administration and did a lot of work in the Middle East. President Trump had in place a foreign policy that deterred Iran and Habas and Hezbollah and all these proxies. From all sorts of terrorism. And it's really hard to see the Middle East go up in flames like this. But this is the consequence when you don't the Biden administration does not have a strategy And And when you don't have a strategy and your foreign policy is entirely reactive, and you allow Iranian proxies to attack American troops over two hundred times.

You are going to you're going to be stuck with the Middle East that we have.

So I was glad that he took out Um, one of the commanders of Katab Hezbollah. That's the group that Iran used to kill. to three Americans in Jordan. But this isn't enough. We need to be going after A lot of the just like President Reagan did, you have to go after Iranian assets.

And President Biden doesn't seem to have the stomach Um or the will. To impose direct consequences on Iran instead of indirect.

Well, here is what General McKenzie said over the weekend. Let's just talk about him. The fact is, they keep on saying we're not going to hit Iran. I think this particular campaign we're on, we've done two things that I think undercut us. First of all, there's a continual reference in our policy statements about not wanting to escalate.

Look, I agree, escalation is dangerous. But if the greatest fear is escalation, we should leave. We can reduce the danger of escalation to zero if we leave. Clearly, we have higher priorities than preventing escalation.

So we should recognize that. The second part is we have explicitly taken Iran itself off the list of potential targets in this campaign. I am not advocating for striking Iran. I am advocating that they need to be in the space of possible targets so that they're held at risk. What happens when we say, well, we're going to strike targets in Iraq and Syria, we're not going to strike targets in Iran, at least kinetically targets in Iran.

That gives them aid and comfort. That's not a good thing to do.

So do you agree with that philosophy?

Well, General McKenzie, you know, I worked a lot with him when he was leading CENTCOM. There's no question that telegraphing what we're going to do before we do it is is that's just that's just bad This is like and showing all your cards. It just doesn't make any sense.

So I would like to see a Biden administration that actually restores deterrence against Iran and against a lot of our proxies and against a lot all of these proxies all over the Middle East. Do they need to know that we're willing to hit them, or would there be an escalation worry if Brian Hook was in there?

Well I agree with President Trump that if he had had a second term, You wouldn't have a war in Ukraine. And you certainly wouldn't have had the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, how it was handled. and the Middle East would be stable. There's no question that the President left Middle East better than how he found it. He came into office.

We were facing ISIS Iran was on the march. Israel had been kind of isolated by the Obama administration. And then President Trump came in and he stood with our friends and stood against our enemies. That's a winning formula for the Middle East. And you can do it.

Without overextending yourself. And I think the Biden administration has this weird war, this weird sort of foreign policy strategy. They de-escalate to de-escalate. And unfortunately, that's the kind of strategy that is more likely to drag you into a war than to avoid it. No, listen, that's what Iran has shown in the past.

In that neighborhood, they only understand strength, it seems. That's the The only language that Iran understands is pressure and force. And, you know, when President Reagan came into office, he understood this. President Trump understood it. that you have to escalate to de-escalate.

And this, you know, this scares a lot of people. They think that, you know. I remember being in office, everybody calling President Trump like a warmonger and stuff like this. He created a peaceful Middle East. There was not a single major attack by Hamas or Hezbollah while he was in office.

So Brian, I understand you went to you were in Israel. Is that correct? Yes, I've been in Israel and then this week met with a number of talked with a number of very senior Israeli officials on where things have been, where they're going and the status of things in Gaza and Lebanon and dealing with Iran.

So it looks like Benjamin Netyahu, the Prime Minister, rejected Hamas's proposal for the terms they offer to get the hostages out and have a four and a half month pause on the fighting. Because among the prisoners that have to be exchanged, it'll be 1,500 for the hostages, and 500 of which are on life sentences. That's inside Israeli jails. It did not surprise me the Prime Minister walked away from this deal. Is there a deal out there today that you would sign on to?

Well, I think the biggest priority right now facing Israel, I don't know if there's a deal that you can sign on to, certainly not on the terms that Hamas would like to dictate. But I think that Number one. Israel needs to ensure that this never happens again. They cannot be threatened like they were on October 7th. That can never happen again.

So job one is to degrade and destroy Hamas. There are about thirty five thousand Hamas fighters Anywhere between, I'd say, nine and ten or ten, fifteen thousand have been killed. And You know, these terror networks are still in Gaza, and Israel is not going to stop until. They're eliminated. And then I think that's the biggest priority.

And I think hostages, obviously. Are a big priority, but for the future of Israel, Hamas cannot win. And this war, I think, is far from over. My bet is that this war continues through the end of the year.

Well, they're moving into the place that they told all the civilians to go to now, inside Gaza. and they're moving they're moving forward rapidly. They have suffered casualties, well over one hundred casualties in this operation. But I understand as they moved out, some reconstituting of Hamas is areas in which they cleared. That's got to be frustrating.

Yeah, I think it is. But, you know, Brian, think about what we went through in Mosul. Yeah. It took it took General Petraeus nine months to take Mosul. Right.

And Mosul did not have five hundred miles of tunnels. beneath the city. This is going to take a very long time. We're only five months into this. And Hamas has spent decades building an entire city below the ground That runs, you know, the length of Gaza.

And this is going to go on. for some time. I very much support I've throughout my career been committed to Israel's sovereignty and security. And this has been the deadliest day in the history of Israel. Since the time it was formed.

And they're going to do what they need to do to make sure that there isn't another one of these attacks. I understand, so at the same time, how do you Iran is the problem? The Houthi rebels, the the the Hezbollah faction, just two of the groups that are giving us problems.

So what do we what do you think we know about the the locations and the munitions for the Houthi rebels? I understand they have a really light footprint. They someone described it as fighting fog. Yeah. I I don't think it's that hard.

I mean, the Houthis are a tribal militia. And Somehow, the Biden administration has allowed this group to metastasize and grow. beyond a level that makes any sense. This is a tribal militia on the border with Saudi They have been organized, trained and equipped by the Iranian regime. for a number of years now.

And the Biden administration took their eye off the ball. The fact that they have allowed this tribal militia to be choking commerce in the Red Sea and up the Suez Canal is just shocking to me. I mean, these Houthi boats should all be sitting at the bottom of the ocean. Could be around a spy ship. Yeah, and Iran spy ship.

That also should be at the bottom of the And that is how you escalate to de-escalate. It's not going to lead to a war. It is going to lead to peace because Iran needs to be put on its back foot. And right now, they feel like they're on offense. And guess what?

The UAE, Saudi Arabia, Jordan would all love to see us do the same thing to Iran. It would work in their interest too. Lastly, on the Ukraine aid, how important is it for us to get them aid?

Well, from everything that I'm seeing with Zelensky, you know, he's this. The war in Ukraine is starting to look like World War One. Uh, in terms of just like, you know, pitch trench trench warfare. with the collapse of the border bill, it's things are now very uncertain. And it's just, you know, obviously our support for Ukraine has been.

Decisive in its ability to wage a credible campaign against Russia, but very hard to predict how this is going to go. What do you think? I think we get them the weapons they need to be successful, but we get monitors in there. Every gun handed off, I want to be there. I don't want to fund their pensions.

I want to fund their military. They show us their will to fight. The Russians have paid a huge price, but let them be successful and then let's see. You cannot negotiate from a point of weakness with Vladimir Putin. You've got to get them on their back foot.

Let them feel a little bit of pain. Will you let the North Koreans, we let the Iranians, we let the Chinese to a degree arm them. And we wonder why they got a second wind. While we got this stuck in some debate, I just think you let the Ukrainians do what they do best, and that's fight. And I think even though they're an imperfect democracy, they're a democracy, and they're going to get better in time.

And I think we need to send a message that to be a friend of ours matters.

Well, they have shown a lot of courage. In this thing, and I think a lot of the Europeans didn't expect it, but Zelensky. refusing to take the helicopter out of Ukraine when it was offered by President Biden Showed a lot of courage. Yep. And they've been fighting hard, but I think that makes sense.

There's real corruption issues in Ukraine that predate the war. And if we can get better visibility into how every dollar is being spent and every American dollar is precious, we've got to monitor it. And that'll be the compromise. And that should have been there from day one. You guys could pull it off.

Whatever you want to say. There's no organization. Jake Sullivan, Anthony Blinken does not reassure the American people. The President unable to explain himself.

So you leave it to people like General Keene, Michael Waltz and Lindsey Graham to explain the stance of a democratic administration. After a while, they're tired of doing it. Yeah. Yeah, it's true. I think if you can have monitors around the corruption, that would probably you know, there's a lot of understandable concern about where the money is going.

And like you said, it can't be going for pensions, it has to go for the war. Brian, listen, I think people would feel a lot better if guys like Mike Pompeo and you were back in power.

So best of luck. Always appreciate your expertise. Anytime. Thanks. You got it.

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I'm going to talk with Matthew Cantonenti about this whole. Election, but Nikki Haley losing to none of the above in Nevada in the primary is not good. It shows the organization of Trump. And also, Nikki Haley is going to get trounced today in the caucus because she did not pay the fee to be in the caucus, felt it was rigged. But she did go to California yesterday, and she went to California to say, I'm going through Super Tuesday, and she's earning money along the way.

Listen, I'm not going to say anything negative about Nikki Haley. I am going to question the tactics of attacking the president. From the Democratic side, from the left. I think that's crazy. I think it's crazy.

And if you want to comment on how he governed, you could say that behind closed doors he was like this and this I would be better and this is where I learned from watching him. But I think for her political future, I know Britt Yume, who I respect more than anything, says I don't see that being a problem. I do think it's a problem because it's all for her about 2028 now. Unless something happens with this Supreme Court case, and the Supreme Court justices do not seem to be contentious or be embracing the Colorado article that the President took part in in its erection and is no longer eligible to be. President of the United States.

So that's what they thought. That's what Maine thinks.

Some other states are going to bring that up. But I'm not seeing that. If that goes by by the boards, and then Alvin Bragg is the first case after that. The other thing is going to be a civil trial, which is by reports, I mean, could cost the president $400 million, at least temporarily. That's going to hurt him personally, but make him stronger politically.

He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kill Meade.

Well, I mean, Chris, that's been a failed play for 20 years.

So you are right that that has been the democratic strategy for 30 years, maybe. And it has failed to deliver for the people we care about most, the undocumented Americans that are in this country. Great. Now we know Senator Murphy. If you don't like the bill, Or if Murphy got what he wanted, that's exactly his focus.

And that's the problem. And let the Democrats run on that. Whether that was a lip trip, but it was actually, if you look up the actions, that's really what most Democrats believe. If you see what's happening in the Democratic-run city of New York, the Democratic-run city of Chicago, Boston now overrun up to the teeth right now with illegal immigrants. If you think illegal immigrant first, goodbye, homeless.

Goodbye, veterans. Goodbye, recreation centers for kids. Let's think foreigners first. Matthew Continenti, Director of Domestic Policy Studies at American Enterprise Institute, columnist and commentary, and founding editor and editor-in-chief of the Washington Free Beacon, joins us now. Matt, were you surprised to see Senator Murphy say that?

I wasn't surprised to hear him say it, Brian. I was a little surprised by his new euphemism for illegal. immigration calling the migrants Undocumented Americans. That's a new one. Oh, wow.

That got by me. That's a good job. Yeah. Undocumented Americans.

Well, the point is, Benedict Murphy. They're not Americans, and they haven't gone through the normal channels to become Americans, which of course we should celebrate. Look, I think this is also Murphy's second gap in a week because he was the one who tweeted right after the bill was unveiled that the Senate compromise would not shut down the border. And so that that essential, I guess, uh kind of Uh Silly honesty is what helped sink the bill, and it continues to show. The hole which the Democrats have dug themselves in on immigration.

So, a couple of things. Number one, an undocumented American is a guy who loses his license. I mean, I did not pick that up. The undocumented is also a term that sanitizes. You're here illegally.

But what's happened in these cities, I mean, you see what happened a week ago was a turning point, I think, for Americans, not for Republicans, is when you see these two cops get beat up, and then you see Alvin Bragg let them out because he was still gathering information. And it didn't have enough information to detain people that beat up a cop.

So let him out.

So we have the light on crime policies, illegal immigrant first policies, and then we have the price of illegal immigrants as it's released that a Democratic mayor is going to give them $53 million to give them prepaid food cards.

Well The reason that immigration has become such a big issue, Brian, is that, as you suggest, it kind of connects with all the different concerns Americans have, right? It's not just the rule of law being broken at the border. It's not just The administrations open border policies, which have provided the sense that everything is out of control. It's also the fact that illegal immigration is connected to crime. It's also the fact that illegal immigration is connected to welfare cheating.

And you now have a situation where because the migrants are coming over in such numbers, and they're being moved to these blue states, It's also contributing to shortages in the housing supply and rising costs of rents and mortgages.

So this is why we've seen immigration Rise among voter priorities, not just among Republicans, for whom it's always been a big issue, but now among the general electorate as well.

So, right now, President Biden yesterday tried to say it's now on the Republicans because 41 voted against this compromise immigration bill, border bill. What's your thought?

Well, I thought it was pretty laughable. I mean, Biden is playing very cynical politics here because he knows he has a huge problem. You look at the recent polls, He is so far under water on immigration. Voters trust The Republicans and Trump much more by double digits than they trust Biden on this issue. And so he's playing a cynical game where he's saying that because the Senate Republicans voted down this compromise bill on the border, then they're somehow to blame for what's going on.

That's not it's not going to happen. And the best evidence that Biden knows that he's not going to be able to shift the blame onto the Republicans is this new reporting that suggests he's looking at ex taking executive action to address the border, which is what we've been saying all along he should do. But it depends on what kind of executive actions he's doing. But the thing is, any intelligent politician, whether you're running for the Senate or Congress or obviously for the President, you say I would like to point out three of the executive orders that President Biden did on day one of the ramifications. Not having a replacement for Title 42, number one.

Number two is the third country, the first country you walk into before you apply to get into our country. That's where you apply, not here, or you're ordering back eliminated. Remain in Mexico. And the President Trump's pressure on all these Central and South American communities with tariffs, especially Mexico, if they don't control their own border. worked, not perfectly, but overcoming all the litigia all the Democratic pushback, still had the President work feverishly to secure the border.

The Pre this President undid all that. How could he not claim responsibility?

Well, it was laughable. And I think that at the end of the day, he's not going to be able to shift the blame back onto the Republicans, especially because the way Washington works, people will forget about this compromise very quickly. But I will say too, Brian, more than all of the policies that President Trump undertook to secure the border, there was the general sense that everyone knew, whether you were an American voter or whether you were someone thinking about migrating to the United States from Central or South America, that President Trump didn't want you to come illegally. That was well known throughout the globe. With Biden, It was the total opposite.

And Biden was so desperate to reverse everything Trump put in place that he gave the impression and I think continues to give the impression that if you arrive on our southern border and declare for asylum, you will get into the United States and you will be able to remain in the United States until that message changes. I think we're going to continue to see the surge at the southern border.

So, Matt, I want you to hear this. We'll hear it together for the first time. This Maine Democrat, this Congresswoman, a de Quad de Holick, explains why illegals matter. And what about the military folks that are getting out of the military? And they have to go through all the lines to start all of again, even though they have credentials.

So, my question, pretty simple. Why would we fast track them? And we won't do it for our military. They have the advantage of speaking the language most of our military folks.

So, these folks that we're really working on may not have that.

So, it's going to be really difficult for them to say, Yes, I used to be an electrician in my country. I'm just using mine, which is Somalia. But that might not really fall into our laws that we have in this country.

Okay, so because veterans speak the language, they should not be the priority. Wow. I mean, I don't think that's going to go very far with the voting public, Brian. I mean, you look at what's going on with the Democrats and with Biden on this issue, and it's just telling that they are kind of desperate now. And in fact, As that clip just demonstrated, there's been a kind of radicalization in some quarters of the Democratic Party where they truly believe that everyone has a right to emigrate to the United States.

No questions asked, no legal procedures required. And once you're in, you're in. And the problem with that idea, not only is it wrong, it's also extremely unpopular. And I think that's why Republicans will continue to have an advantage on the border. Yeah, I guess so.

So we'll see what happens here.

Now at the situation, Matt, I think it was badly played. They said, we're not giving you foreign aid, Democrats, until you go with the border.

So they do a compromise bill. Mark T said, you do not feel it's acceptable. A lot of other experts in 41 senators agree with that. I saw some more positives in it, Brandon, perhaps you. I'm not saying I would have signed off on it.

Maybe one would have been back to work on it. Having said that, now that they've rejected it, what happens to the foreign aid? What would you think Republicans should do now?

Well, I think that they should vote for the military supplemental bill. If Senator Schumer brings it to the floor today, as he plans to do, I think they should say that they are for sending military aid to Israel and to Ukraine in order to protect America, in order to advance America's cause in the world, and in order to secure our allies who are under fire. The real question, though, Brian, is not what happens in the Senate. Problem is what happens in the house. And my worry is that the Republican majority is so narrow in the House that hardly anything can get done.

So while I do think this clean bill, if it does come to the floor of the Senate, for just the military aid deserves to be approved. I still wonder what can get through the House of Representatives. And I bet you speaker Mike Johnson is asking himself the same question right now. Matt, I tell you, and I know my audience is sick of me saying it. They lost a lot without Kev McCarthy.

He knew all the corners, he knew all the how to cut the angles, he knew where to make a stand. It didn't matter. He understood it wasn't about him, it was about the doing the most conservative thing which possible instead of the idea the ideologues that ju that drummed him out. I happen to agree with you, Brian, but I'll also say this. The Democrats are implicated in this as well, because when everything went down last fall, And McCarthy basically said, look, the only way that I'm going to be able to manage is with some Democratic support.

And the Democrats said, no, we're not going to throw you a rope. And I think the price of that, a decision, may be Ukraine aid. And I think that that's I personally believe that's bad for everybody. But this is the situation we find ourselves in. Mike Johnson needs to figure out a path To get that money to our allies.

I 100% am in for Ukraine. I understand they got to worry about the corruption. I'm very sympathetic to any American who says where's the money going? Got it. I would follow it.

The compromise would be naming monitors that both sides respect to follow every gun. Every bomb right to the military. No more funding pensions, and just make sure this thing gets done. And this way would persuade people to know that we're funding people that are just trying to fend off invasion. We've seen this movie before, and the world loses.

And Russia's lost 300,000 people because of our weaponry and because of the Ukrainians' willing to fight. I just hope we do not abandon them. Same here because Putin Won't stop. If there's anything we know, it's that he won't stop. But I also have to say, too, the Problem in Washington is the trust is so low because of Joe Biden's performance in office.

that I wonder whether we're just going to have to muddle through the next year until we get a new president. Who understands the priorities and has the popular support in order to. Sure of the border. And to make America secure overseas once again. Matt, I have not been able to listen because I'm doing the show, but have you heard anything in the Supreme Court audio exchange with the Trump team and the Supreme Court justices and the Colorado team, this Jason Murray, that makes you think that Trump won't prevail?

I the few snippets I've caught, Brian, suggest that Trump is in pretty solid ground legally. There are a variety of arguments that his lawyers are making to say that the Colorado decision Was unconstitutional just by the plain reading of the Fourteenth Amendment. And I think that there will be enough justices. who agree with Trump. And look, the Supreme Court doesn't want to be in this situation.

And they shouldn't be in this situation. This is a legal theory that appeared last August. And now all of a sudden is being used by some liberal activists. in order to remove the frontrunner for the presidency from the ballot. In the election year, I think it's a ridiculous situation that the court should not be in, but now that they're in it, What I see of the arguments suggests that Trump has a pretty good hand.

He better or or uh than I you know, as David Oxerod sounds like you, Matt Continenti, uh, it would be disastrous. Here's a here's one excerpt we can listen together: Justice Kagan questioning uh Questioning Jason Murray of Colorado. Why should a single state have the ability to make this determination not only for their own citizens but for the rest of the nation? Because Article II gives them the power to d to appoint their own electors as they see fit, but if they're going to use a federal constitutional qualification as a ballot access determinant, then it's creating a federal constitutional question that then this court decides, and other courts, other states, if this court affirms the decision below determining that President Trump is ineligible to be President, other States would still have to determine what effect that would have on their own state's law. Can you see the chaos that this guy's outlining?

Absolutely. It's right there plain as day. And that I think it's kind of complicated to get through all its legalese. But when you listen to it carefully, you understand the strength of the argument that says that the Presidency is not covered by this Fourteenth Amendment clause that's under at issue here. And because of exactly if that you left who was eligible to for the Presidency up to the individual states, That would that would produce exactly the type of chaos That the 14th Amendment was trying to correct for and was the result of the Civil War.

So I think the lawyer there, even though he's arguing for Colorado, is actually making a pretty good argument for the Trump side. All right. It's a fascinating time on Capitol Hill, and it's going to be a fascinating eight months. It already is, as we see this dramatic testimony take place. And the Supreme Court still probably got about 1,000 people out in front.

Pretty crazy. Matt Cottonen, thanks so much. Thank you. All right. 1-866-408.

And you see Matt all over the channel, too. And you should read the Washington Free Beacon's great paper. 1-866-408-7669. We'll come back. I'll play the other cut that we have from the ongoing Supreme Court conversation.

Don't move. Learning something new every day on the Brian Kill Me Joe. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. The Colorado Supreme Court concluded that the violent attempts of the petitioner supporters in this case to halt the count on January 6th qualified as an insurrection, as defined by Section 3.

And I read your opening brief to accept that those events counted as an insurrection, but then your reply seemed to suggest that they were not.

So what is your position as to that? We never accepted or conceded in our opening brief that this was an insurrection. What we said in our opening brief was President Trump did not engage in any act that can plausibly be characterized as insurrection. All right, so why would this not be an insurrection? What is your argument that it's not?

Your reply brief says that it wasn't because I think you say it did not involve an organized attempt to overthrow the government.

So that's one of many reasons, but for an insurrection that means To be an organized, concerted effort to overthrow the government of the United States through violence. And this is the same thing.

So at that point, is that a chaotic effort to overthrow the government is not an insurrection? We didn't concede that it's an effort to overthrow the government either, Justice Jackson. None of these criteria were met. This was a riot. It was not an insurrection.

The events were shameful, criminal, violent, all of those things. But it did not qualify as insurrection as that term is used in Section 3. Thank you. Thanks. All right, so that's a little the definition going back and forth out of Katanji Brown.

You'll see you get a feel for what it's like. Eventually, I think we'll get cameras in there, but you get to see these judges come to life that act like real human beings. Jason Murray is going to bat for the Colorado voters. And And uh and Mitchell's going to bat um Uh for For Donald Trump.

So think about all this money is being wasted now in front of this. But if you get ahead of this, this is going to be done in a day. They're going to do their vote, and it's going to come out, I imagine, in the next few days, because it really matters. Because all these other states are looking to kick the Trump. Any state with Democratic control is going to look to kick the president, the former president, off their roles, especially now that it looks like he's even more powerful than they thought, who think he's absolutely going to get the nomination.

So now he is really ripe to be banned if they don't stop it here.

So that is Uh this is why I think it matters. I always think it's really interesting as a non-lawyer just hearing go the going back and forth and to see how they try to Find little weaknesses in their statements. Oh. Of each other and see if they could get traction. My hope is nine, no.

I don't want to see on party lines. If it's on party lines, I think it's going to further divide the country. 9-0 says: nice try, enough, don't waste any more time. Listen to the Brian Kill Me Chow. Don't forget One Nation Saturday, 9 o'clock Eastern Time.

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