Biden finally strikes back at Iran... too little, too late?

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Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg will be with us this hour. He's going to give us an idea of what's happening with the 100 strikes back over the weekend to Yemen, to Iraq. To Syria. But first, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. If the goal is to deter Iran, you're failing miserably. This idea of hitting hundreds of targets doesn't matter. The only Iranian we killed in Syria, Iraq, is some dumbass that doesn't know to get out of the way.

So funny. Middle East mayhem. American military spent the weekend hitting 90 plus targets from Yemen to Iraq to Syria, but avoiding Iran and telegraphing every blow. This is not the strategy that will work. And the President does not even give the American people the courtesy of a direct explanation, a press conference, let alone an interview.

Number two.

Well, I think you're going to see that the Trump campaign is going to start shifting their focus on just general chaos in regard to Biden's administration, whether it be in the Middle East, whether it be crime, whether it be the border, turning the whole chaos word on its head against Joe Biden. Yep, that is Reinh Priebus, of course. New polls out, and Trump is leading Biden beyond the margin of error as Biden continues to avoid interviews, press conferences, even a friendly Super Bowl sit-down, foregoing an opportunity to sell himself to 50 million people in an election year, which makes me think you can't win without trying or hiding in the basement. Number one. The key thing here is changes the asylum laws, builds more walls, adds more detention beds, adds more deportation flights, changes this 10-year backlog that we're currently in now to weeks before people are actually deported.

That's what the bill really does.

Well, I'll tell you what. That was Senator Lankford, and he spoke to me specifically at Fox and Friends for the first time about the bill that he's been working on for at least six months. It's the new burden bill. It is released. We will give you the facts, the fears, and the chances of it passing, along with the idiotic pilot plan to give New York illegal immigrants prepaid credit cards at $1,000 a clip of a cost of $53 million.

I mean, I thought this was a joke. I thought this was rumored. I didn't know that I'm putting a pilot program in place. You know why? Because the free food we give them.

They're throwing out.

So he said, let's just give them money, let them shop on their own. I hope the fabric softener is good for the when we do their laundry. I hope it's getting the proper bounce and smell they they like. Is this crazy? How many people out there working hard two jobs trying to pay for daycare wouldn't benefit from a free thousand dollars a month card, let alone coming from another country that we have not given you any background on?

So. Let's talk about this border bill.

So, first off, Senator Murphy, Senator Lankford, and Senator Cinema, they worked hard.

Well, please stop putting people down and doing personal attacks because people are compromising. There's nothing wrong with these three two men and one woman working together. And by the way, I think they all agree the White House was a pain in the neck. They sent different emissaries down there, people you would not know, and they didn't want to do absolutely anything.

Well, they know the border is so broken because of them that they had to come to the table, which made someone like Mitch McConnell say, Never before did I think we could get this much with a Republican president, let alone with a Democratic president.

However, I understand people's skepticism.

So, one thing that we can agree on, and I was going back and forth with Bill Melusian on this. The asylum claims are really a benefit. Because now if you come to the border and say, I have fear for my life and my safety, and you just walk up, you're not getting in. If you have Unimpeachable proof. That you can't go to another portion of your country or the other country that you got through once you left yours, then you will have a chance at a hearing and you might get an ankle bracelet and you're going to be back not in five years, but in six months.

That's an improvement. Is it everything you want? No. The shutdown on the mandatory uh activation.

So this is the whole thing. We're getting over 5,000 a day. If that happens, that means people, these are just encounters, not just people that are rejected, not people just sneaking in, encounters.

Some people are going to be accepted.

Some people when it gets over 5,000, that's untenable. They shut the whole border down. And it doesn't open up until you get the numbers down until it's ready. Senator Langford wanted to explain this provision because he thinks. Then everyone is a Jigestian and says after 5,000, they shut the border down.

It doesn't mean 5,000 getting in. They could all be rejected, but if they hit the 5,000 number, Cut three. And then the final element on this is the Border Emergency Authority. This is the most misunderstood portion of the entire bill. There is a perception that this allows five thousand people in a day to be able to come in.

That is absolutely not what it is. When the border is being overrun, everyone is deported. You can still have an orderly request for asylum at a port of entry. but everyone else that costs does not get to apply for asylum. and has a very rapid turnaround to be able to make sure that we regain orderly control of the border.

The border stays closed where everyone is turned around. And so the numbers dropped 25% on asylum, and the other one's called withholding a removal. All three of those are combined into one screening. To expedite the decision process as well.

So it also goes on to end, catch, and release.

However, unaccompanied minors, they still get in, and families still get in. They get ankle bracelets. They're going to have their case heard within six months. But they're not going to be by judges. It's going to be from USIS people.

And as Chairman McCall told me, they tend to be the more liberal out of the Homeland Security.

So that's problematic. I should have asked that in a follow-up, but I had seven minutes to go over 280 pages of a border bill. And that's only the 280 pages are just the border section. That doesn't include the Ukraine aid. the Israeli aid and the aid to Taiwan.

And other areas too, by the way.

So that's done. The other thing you will have is provide $650 million to build and reinforce miles of the new border wall. This is money left over from the Trump years that they were trying to get a hold of and spend elsewhere.

Now they're going to do it to building the wall. They're also going to increase Border Patrol recruitment, give them overtime. Believe it or not, they do not have overtime right now.

So now all of a sudden. We have people that are rejecting it without seeing it.

Well, fundamentally, that's never been a a good idea just to say something is a non-starter without reading it. But that is Chuck Schumer also having not read it, we assume. Loves it. He says in the coming days the Senate must actively, decisive, act decisively on this emergency national security supplemental funding on Monday if we take to the first procedural step to getting it passed in the Senate with the first vote scheduled for Wednesday. I think it's way too soon.

If you actually want to give an honest approach to this, you can't ask people to read all these pages when every word matters and understand it and have an opinion on it in two days. Speaker Johnson said, I've seen enough. This bill is even worse than we expected and won't come close to ending the border catastrophe the President has created. All right.

So he's out on that. We'll see if it gets there. We know that Lankford will vote for it. That's one. We know that Senator Lindsey Graham will vote for it.

That's two. I imagine Mitt Romney is going to vote for it. That's three. But the question is: do you get to 10 and put all the pressure on the Republican House, which is hanging on by a thread? That is because I'm going to talk to Chad Pergram about.

We're going to get into details on this. But just know: if this was in place right now, the border would be shut down. Because it's over 5,000 a day. Here's what Congressman Jim Him said. About what he heard other people talking about this bill as they released it, Cut9.

I'm not looking necessarily to protect Mike Johnson, but Mike Johnson is a very precariously situated Speaker of the House. And so the question is: how do we get instincts like Mike Turner's to prevail in the Republican Party? And how do we get enough Democratic votes on the left to make sure that we take advantage of this truly generational opportunity? Again, don't listen to me about this. Mitch McConnell in the Cabinet room said: if we had Donald Trump as president, a Republican Senate, and a Republican House, we would not get this deal.

So he's a congressman from Connecticut, and he's referring to Mike Turner. Mike Turner said, I want to read it. I'm not against it. I'm not for it. I just need to get through the details of it, but I'm open to it because we have to fix it.

And he'll just make a stand. Also, on foreign policy, they vehemently disagreed because we saw those strikes over the weekend. We saw now we're up to about 100 strikes in between Iraq, Yemen. And Syria, and we're hitting the targets, but we telegraphed everything so far away, so we'd blow up their infrastructure. I don't necessarily need to see death and destruction, but if you're trying to kill us, I'd rather kill you first.

And they went out and took out Tower 22, and the first thing they said is, We're not looking to bomb Iran. And Iran came out and bragged and said there was a time in which the U.S. never would have taken that off the table.

Now it shows how much more respect we have. That's the last thing you want to do in that region is say the bully of the Middle East says we're not going to hit you. It makes them seem stronger and makes them even look better in front of a very skeptical population.

So we have a lot to discuss, a lot to go over. I have legitimate questions. I'm not going to pretend that I've read all 280 pages, but I have gone over a lot and I've been reading a lot about it, and I'm going to do the best I can to present it out there. And I also know there's political risk in anything because the president broke the border. He's been almost as in a way that's impeachable, and now he wants to take credit for fixing it.

And that kind of bothers me, right?

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So, we actually have this bill that came out yesterday, Sunday. First procedural vote is Wednesday, and that procedural vote is literally just open it up to be able to go through it and to be able to say, Are we going to debate it this week? That's what Senator Lee is actually talking about. It's interesting that he said he's already opposed to it. He needs three weeks to be able to read it, but he's already opposed to it.

So, again, people have got to be able to read it, go through it themselves. Don't just go off a Facebook post somewhere what the bill says. This dramatically changes asylum, it dramatically changes deportations. We no longer have a 10-year backlog, it builds more wall. Those are the key things that it actually does.

But read it for yourselves, don't just believe what's online. That's what Senator Langford is just asking. You want to be critical of me. Can you read it first? Chad Pergram knows all about difficult legislation and the chances of it passing.

Forty years ago, it was the last time he did something significant at the border. He is Fox News' congressional correspondent, and nobody's better. Chad, There seem to be in a big rush to get this border thing passed. How significant, first off, is this legislation? Can you put it in perspective?

Yeah, it's pretty monumental in the sense that, as you say, it's been a long time since they've actually passed significant border legislation. There was a big border immigration bill that was passed in 2013 in the Senate with more than two-thirds of all senators, and then that never got a vote at all in the House of Representatives. And the way this is going right now, this kind of reminds me maybe of what happened in 2013. They might be able to get something out of the Senate, but ever bringing it up in the House of Representatives, that might be too far a bridge here. I mean, Steve Scalise, the majority leader, said he will not put this on the floor.

You've had a number of Republicans speak out against it. And it's just not the right, Brian. You had liberal Democrats who are very opposed to this bill. I mean, I interviewed Nanette Berrigan. Democratic representative from Los Angeles, who's the chair of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus last Thursday.

And she was upset that the CHC was left out of the negotiations, didn't like the asylum provisions, didn't like some of the things she was hearing, and was opposed. And in the Senate, you're going to have this mixture of Democrats. And Republicans who are opposed, sometimes for different reasons. Like Alex Padilla, the Democratic senator from California, he appears to be opposed to this right now. By the same token, you have Bernie Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont, who hasn't said he's opposed to the bill.

But forget what else is in this bill here. There's this big international aid package. And Sanders, before they released the bill text yesterday, signaled that he did not like how the U.S. was dealing with Israel and kind of suggested that maybe these provisions to fund Israel. might not be something that he could vote for in the Senate.

So again, we don't know we will have this test vote on Wednesday, as James Langford said. This is a motion to proceed, to actually get onto the bill, to actually launch debate And you need 60 votes, you're going to have to have a cocktail of Democrats and Republicans to get there. I know it looks like Lindsey Graham's for it. He went to bat for it on Fox News Sunday with Shannon. Then, of course, he had Lankford.

He was just on with me about an hour ago. He wrote it, I'm sure he's going to be for it. And I'm not sure who else. I know Mike Turner seemed more open to it than the speaker. He was on another one of the Sunday shows.

But I want you to hear what Senator Murphy, another one of the authors of this bill, said about what the GOP did not get, cut five. The spill is a constant. compromise. things that Democrats still believe are moral imperatives. like providing a pathway to citizenship for undocumented Americans.

But it also does not include many Republican priorities. There is no expansion of expedited removal in this bill. There is no increased detention authority. There's no transit ban. There's no return of Title 42.

This bill is a compromise, but it is a breakthrough. a breakthrough many political pundits didn't think could happen. Your thoughts?

Well, that's what's amazing about it. I mean, you know, you look at uh some of the opposition to the bill and as Langford and in particular Murphy had pointed out for a long time, he said there's stuff in this bill that they never thought the Democrats would go for. And and Democrats gave a lot, frankly. I mean, to get certain provisions here, that's a problem for them. And the fact that you have, you know, Republicans who are out to kill it, the fact that, you know, Democrats were going to be willing to agree to some of these caps.

We're going to be willing to agree to some of these asylum changes and detention and shutdown issues. I mean, that's a problem. This is, let's face it. This is political right now. It is an election year.

It is hard to get big things some such as something as radioactive as immigration, border security done in an election year. And even though it might be a pretty strong bill, Even though you have people at the polls, the political polls here, liberal Democrats, conservative Republicans who are against it, they might not be willing to go for it. We'll know more on Wednesday in that test vote. Yeah, I guess we'll see.

So the question is: you know how it works, Chad. In an election year, especially.

So the President, former President, came out and said, I'm not for it. The Speaker goes, it's dead. I've seen enough.

Okay.

So if that if the Republicans in the Senate Who have a good shot of getting the majority in a few months, in nine months, if the Republicans in the Senate know the House is a no, just know it's a no, would they vote for it and put all the pressure on the House? Is that unlikely that even if 10 were likely to go for this, make some changes and maybe get something a little bit more? Do you think they put that kind of pressure on the House? You see, I find it hard to believe that if you don't have a majority of Senate Republicans who are for this, that this goes anywhere.

Now, again, if you get a coalition of Democrats and some Republicans together, you can certainly get to 60 votes. But if, say, let's say you lose five Democrats. and you get fifteen Republicans.

So you're really at 61 votes, but that's not even close to half. of the Senate Republican Conference. You need 25 out of 49. And that's not enough. I mean, you need a good maybe only losing two or three Democrats and a good, you know, even if you're not quite at twenty five, a good maybe twenty two, twenty three Republicans, you know, to get well over sixty.

Then you might be able to put some pressure on the House of Representatives. But that's hard to see. And again, you have these weird coalitions. And again, the problem here is that what hangs in the balance is aid for Israel and Ukraine. And this is something that Mitch McConnell has argued.

He said, we have an opportunity to make law on three different fronts here, dealing with Ukraine, dealing with Israel, dealing with the border. He said, let's try to go for it. And McConnell gave a full-throated endorsement for the bill yesterday. He is a big advocate for Ukraine. And what happens to that Ukraine money if this blows up?

Mike Johnson has a plan for funding Israel in the House that's going to come up this week. It is an Israel-only bill, but he's even gotten blowback from the Freedom Caucus who said, we don't like the fact that it's not paid for. And so, you know, he's kind of getting it in stereo, too.

So that bill, you know, might be in trouble now.

So maybe none of this gets done, frankly, Brian. Unbelievable. Chad, your job is never easy, but always exciting. Chad Pergram, thanks so much. Thank you.

You got it. All right, we come back. I'm going to find out what's happening in the Middle East.

Somebody who really knows it and is going to probably work for President Trump again if he gets a job back. Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg, do you listen to the Brian Kill Me Show? Don't move. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead.

On the telegraphed point, President Biden has been saying for months. That he would respond to attacks. We have responded to previous attacks, and when three service members were killed, of course. Iran knew that the United States would respond.

So the idea that somehow this was telegraphed, I think, is a bit more of a political talking point than a reality. Really? That was Jake Sullivan doing all the shows yesterday, or most of them. And he was telling the hits over the weekend, which numbered between 80 and 100. uh on Yemen, Syria.

as well as Iraq were not telegraphed.

Well, joining us now is Mike McCall, as Chairman of Foreign Relations in the House, Texas. Congressman, Congressman, great to see you. Thanks for having me. Your reaction to Jake Sullivan saying wasn't telegraphed.

Well, they did. They said a week before the strikes that we are going to hit these targets, but it gave them a week to prepare.

So the IRGC in Iraq and Syria and Yemen were able to pull out their assets, return to Iran and avoid these airstrikes.

So it had I think it had minimal impact, which is why you saw the Houthi rebels respond after the strikes on Houthi. There's no deterrence here. When you talk about stopping these militias, They were were they going after our we have 2,500, they say, in Iraq. There wasn't much violence before October 7th, is that correct?

So this happened since October 7th. Why do you think that the President was so reluctant to show power? one hundred sixty strikes on our forces in Iraq, Syria with little response, weak response. This is the first decisive move they've made. And if it's not decisive enough, Brian, without deterrence, they're going to continue to do this.

And that's why I also think back channeling I would back channel to Iran, to the Ayatollah. If you keep killing American servicemen and women, we will hit you inside of Iran.

So here's what your colleague, Congressman Adam Smith, Democrat from Washington, said over the weekend, Cut 32. I do think the options about hitting with inside Iran, as I've said before, those need to be on the table. But there's a couple of things that were missed, I think, in the previous comments. Number one is what's going on in Gaza. I mean, that drives a lot of this, and what's going on in Israel.

What Iran could do is they could flip the switch and attack Israel from Lebanon. Hezbollah could be a lot more aggressive about this.

So that's a response that they could give that would blow up the region and really jeopardize U.S. interests as well as Israeli interests. What do you agree with about what he said?

Well, I think to some extent he's correct. I would not take that option off the table that is hitting Iran. I think they need to know that we're prepared to do that so they stop hitting our men and women. Hezbollah fires rockets every day into Israel. Hezbollah combined with the moss could overload the iron dome.

which is why we need the Israel aid package. But they could overload the Iron Dome and it would put Israel in a really bad spot. That's why Congress has to pass the Israeli package. Fif fifteen billion?

Well, the price tag's going up. big supporter of Israel? That's what the speaker is doing. He's going to put a a provision of $15 billion. Right.

Primarily they need the interceptor Surirdome. They need the 155 caliber ammunition. And I think we need to give them everything they need right now to succeed.

So I just want to give you an idea of some of the politics and tell me how they play. Privately, it came out yesterday that Joe Biden has probably ripped Israeli leader Benjamin Etanyahu as a bad effing guy. As the war rages on, and he's just furious with him the way he's prosecuting this war. Then we have this other gentleman who's to the right of Netanyahu, gave an interview to the Wall Street Journal and said he's opposed any deal with Hamas that would end the war or free Palestinian prisoners and said Donald Trump would be a better for Israel than Joe Biden.

So politics are play very much connected here. In Israel and the U.S., your reaction to their these controversial positions.

Well, I think that's correct. I think while you see optically the pr our president and Netanyahu supposedly getting along, there's a lot of tension behind the scenes in terms of Biden trying to micromanage the way Netanyahu carries out this operation in Gaza. I think Trump would have been a different scenario. I think he would have he always, I thought, provided deterrence out of fear. More than anything, and projected strength.

Biden just hasn't projected strength. And so, You're seeing the same thing play out with our best ally, Israel, you know, in the Middle East, and micromanaging these efforts. I think Netanyahu is torn between his far right and the president of the United States. But we need to let them eradicate Hamas in Gaza. They've only gotten 20% of Hamas out.

No one really disputes that. And now the places they leave, Hamas is reconstituting. What does that tell you about the operation?

Well, we need to let them go all in or get out. That's my premise, Cole and Powell doctrine. Allow Israel to do its work. When I was in a meeting with Netanyahu in Israel two weeks after the invasion, very clear. I'm going to go in, I'm going to eradicate Hamas.

They are not going to govern Gaza ever again. But neither is Israel, he said. And he's correct. Let's let him do his job. Let them eradicate Hamas.

And then we got a real opportunity. I mean, I'm going to Saudi in a month to talk about the security agreement between Saudi and Israel. This could transform the Middle East. And we have to look at the post-Gaza conflict, how we can Find a way to allow the Palestinian people to coexist with Israel, but that's not going to happen with Hamas. Jeremy McCall, here's the problem, and I'm not telling you something you don't know.

The Palestinians don't want a two-state solution, and the Israelis don't want a two-state solution. It's easy for us to sit here and say let's do it, and other Arab nations say let's do it. They don't want it. They both want the same land. And that's a problem in the United States.

It has been a problem since the 40s.

Well, since the State of Israel was created. You know, The the United States has always Been the force behind Israel that does not allow them to collapse at the hands of the Palestinians and Hamas.

So I think you're going to see a keen appetite in the Arab world to try to resolve this after the conflict. But again, it will not work until Hamas is eradicated.

So the thing is, our administration Decides they're not going to communicate. They do it through Anthony Blinken and Jake Sullivan, always looks scared to death when they're on television. And now the president can't speak. He's even turned down the Super Bowl interview.

So it's left to guys like you, Lindsey Graham and General Keene, to explain the necessary of this operation. And like Michael Waltz, he wants to throw up his hands, goes, why am I defending something? I don't agree with the type of tension created between both these governments, the Netanyahu government and this one. I don't agree with the slow walking of weapon systems and weapons specifically in Ukraine. Why am I defending an operation?

But it's in the U.S. interest that Ukraine be successful. How do you do that? In your position right now as Chairman of Foreign Relations, you do believe that it's in our interest for Ukraine to get supplied, right? Right.

And no, they're so afraid of their own shadow. Like, we don't want to be too provocative.

So, therefore, let's have a slow dribble of weapons into Ukraine. Don't give them what they need to win, just enough to survive, have a stalemate, which is what Putin wants, and then erode down the will of the American people. And, you know, to some extent, Putin's been successful. And the same strategy in the Middle East.

Now, let's not be too provocative because we don't want to escalate this with Iran, but they forget that strength and peace through strength is a doctrine that works, provides deterrence, and they are not doing it in either place, either the Middle East or in Ukraine. If we abandon our allies in Ukraine like we did Afghanistan and turn it over to Putin, and that would be Moldova, Georgia, and then it threatens the Baltic states. The reason I support Ukraine fighting this effort is because I don't want to see our men and women in uniform over there. And if they hit a NATO nation, we will be. We will be treaty obligated.

Treaty obligations. And I could just hear the argument. What do we care about Lithuania? Do we really have to fight for Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia? Come on, we don't care about those countries.

That'll be the pushback. And I go, wait a second. What good is it to be an ally of America anymore? We won the Cold War for a reason. Whether successful or not, we would match up with the Soviet Union wherever it was.

You're trying to take it over to Africa, we're going to meet you. You're trying to take over Southeast Asia, we're going to meet you. You're going to try to move into Western Europe, we're going to block you. And then we wore them out because their doctrine is terrible. Nobody wants to be communist.

So people saw the freedom, and actually, the good guys won. We have a formula. Why are we stopping with that formula? Ukraine has killed 300,000 Russians. Yeah, if you told me the Pentagon said, hey, less than 5% of our budget, we will annihilate 50% of the Russian military without one American soldier, I'd tell you that's a pretty darn good deal.

And then ask the question. What would Reagan do? You know, he was the first president I got to vote for. Reagan took down the Soviet Union.

So many quotes of him talking against isolation, isolationism. Being the leader of the free world was so important to him. And if we If we back down and surrender, we are basically taking that mantle off the United States, and we are shrinking from our responsibility. I want to get your take from what you know of the border bill. You were digesting it as I am.

You watched the Senator Langford interview back waiting to do your interview on television with me. From what you know right now, can you support it or what do you need to know?

Well, I think it's I admire him for taking on the issue. It's not easy. I have a lot of battle scars when I was chair of Homeland. But I don't think it's going to be adequate enough for the House, but I don't know if it will pass out of the Senate. I think the real weakness is there are no significant Political asylum changes, like remain in Mexico, where the claims are adjudicated outside the United States, then they're not released.

And the system they have, it takes the prosecutor and judge out of the USCIS process where they're given sole authority to then release him with either anchor, bracelet, or a work permit.

So you're going to see. All these political asylum cases. being uh released into the United States with a work permit. Right. I do think that they said that the only way to get in there is to prove you're under threat or else you're going to be turned right around.

But the unaccompanied minors, there's no answer. That's what the Democrats did not want to budge on that.

So there are some asylum changes. We'll see if it's going to be adequate. It doesn't seem like any Republican is going for it outside Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell, but that doesn't even mean he's going to vote for it. And we just heard, too, speculation from Chad that some Democrats don't want it.

So if Senator Padilla doesn't want it, then you need more Republicans to pass it. And if you don't get half the Republicans, why would you damage the House by putting something in there?

So it's going to be fascinating to see. Chairman, great to see you. Thanks so much for the quality time. Thanks, Brian. Thanks for having me.

Not much happening in Texas, right? Not at all. A lot going on. Hey, when we come back, we're going to talk to, we have a special guest. We have Lieutenant Colonel.

Uh General Kellogg, don't move. Newsmakers and newsbreakers. Hear it first on the Brian Killmeat Show. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

If the goal is to deter Iran, you're failing miserably. If the goal is to protect American troops, you're not achieving your goal. If you're convinced, Iran, we don't want a wider war, they believe you. Oh, I don't want a war with you. They got the message.

What they're not. Afraid of us. They were afraid of Trump. They're not afraid of us. This idea of hitting hundreds of targets, it doesn't matter.

The only Iranian we killed in Syria, Iraq, is some dumbass that doesn't know to get out of the way.

We gave them a week's notice. Yeah. And Lindsey Graham is passionate about it. He goes across party lines. If Trump if Biden does the right thing or Trump does the wrong thing, he would say it, much to the consternation of people on his right.

He's a very frustrated guy. Is Lieutenant General Keith Kellogg feeling the same way? As you know, former National Security Advisor to VP Pence, and I know he's Donald Trump really values his opinion, too. General, were you happy with the one hundred strikes? Did we change anything?

Thanks, Brian, for having me. No, there's a level of frustration that I've got with it. Because we're not really dealing with the big issue, which is deterrence. I mean, these are punitive strikes. In other words, they killed three Americans.

They're shooting rockets, so we're going to have put strikes. There's a huge difference. as to scale and scope between the between punitive strikes and the turn strikes. And what I mean by that is a turn strike is something that you you put at risk.

Something that your opponent holds dear. And until you do that, then you really don't have deterrence. And that's where we're trying to go to. Otherwise, We're just muddling along. You're going to see strikes tomorrow, the next day, the day after, a week from Tuesday, another month.

And we're not bringing this to a a conclusion. The thing you run into, Brian, when you do that is now every day that goes by, It is harder and harder to put some type of deterrence back in the box because, sort of like what Senator Graham said, they're just saying these guys aren't serious about it. They don't really care. We're going to keep shooting and doing things.

So what you're gonna end up with. Down the line, you're gonna end up with potentially a nuclear breakout by Iran, who has a lot of missiles. It totally destabilized Middle East. And then you're going to get back to what Winston Churchill said. In World War II, when he called it, quote, an unnecessary war because it was a war that started because nobody pushed back against Hitler.

And Brian, that's where we're at. Would you be for? I know the Saudis were asking to meet with this administration about setting up a mutual defense compact, and that might be part of the recognition of Israel. I'm not sure they do it right now anyway, but would you sign up for that? You know, here's what I do.

I'd sign up all your allies that you've got, and the Saudis are pretty good. See, I think you've got a different type of leadership now in Saudi radio with King Solomon, you know, being as sick as he is, and you got MBS Mohammed bin Solomon, the crown prince. Who's very, very liberal, all things considered for the Middle East. Not liberal as you and I would understand, but pretty liberal. And he wants to align himself with the United States, but he's not aligned with Biden.

You know, remember. When President Trump went there, they had a sword dance, you know, big. Yeah, I remember. Yeah, and that exactly right. And then when Biden goes there, he gets a fist bump.

So they so what do they do, they sign a a peace deal with Iran, the Saudis do, and who brokers it? The Chinese.

So until something changes, the Saudis don't trust us as well. Because they're saying, I don't believe these guys are going to be there when things get really, really bad. And they're the ones who are really concerned about a nuclear breakdown by Iran. Because if they break out, then I think they're going to be forced into doing something similar. They told Brett Barry: he goes, if they get a weapon, we will get a weapon.

Yep. And then you talk about destabilization there, yeah, because What happens, Brian, you treat a nuclear adversary significantly different. Than you treat a non-nuclear adversary simply because he holds you at risk with different weapon systems.

So, you know, it's different facing Russia than it is facing. Monaco. Yeah, you have to think differently, you have to act differently, you react differently, and that we'll have to do the same thing in the Middle East. And we're letting them get out of that box. And every day that it goes by, it is so much harder To put everything back in line.

And I don't think they're there. I think it's in their DNA, honest to God, Brian. I don't think. they've got the intestinal quartitude or in their DNA or in their thought process. To push back hard, I get the risk.

I mean, people say, well, a risk of a wider world. Of course, there's risk. There's risk in everything you're doing, but there's also risk in not doing anything. And that's where my concern about their risk is. They're on the latter, not the former.

I want you to get it. I just want you to weigh in on Ukraine. I know you go there a lot. Zelensky's doing some major shake-ups there. It looks like the Russians have 17 regiments, 16 battalions, and between 60 and 62,000 troops in there, reserve units in there.

So I'm wondering, is this the moment that they think they can win real quick? 30 seconds? Can Ukraine hold out? I think you're in a giant stalemate right now. I think because the Russians have been beat up so bad, this is the time if you really want to end this, and somebody needs to figure out how do you get to a peace treaty, how do you do it?

The Ukrainians tried their best in their offensive. They got stopped by what's called the Surovican line when they tried to push through and reinforce the tenses that the Russians have. The Russians have been beat up, the Ukrainians have been beat up, and sooner or later somebody has to say to both sides, okay, enough of this. It allows us to pivot to China. But right now, I don't think the Russians can prevail, and I don't think the Ukrainians can prevail.

It's a harsh assessment.

Now, if you had asked me this a year ago, different story. Because if we had had the ability and the sense to really supply the Ukrainians with what they needed, The Russians at that time, a year ago, were on their heel. Yeah, they were slow-walking everything. General, thanks so much. He goes on the ground, he gets the answers.

Appreciate it, General Kellogg. Brian Kilbicho. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kill Me. I've learned from Middown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world.

Brian Kill Me Show back in action today. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. Michael Goodwin is getting set from the New York Post. Got a great column over the weekend. How Joe Biden is basically bringing us into another world war.

And Tom Caraco, senior fellow with the International Security Program and director of the Missile Defense Project. Also, we're in the middle of an election 2024. You'll be fascinated to see some of these new polls. I'm stunned that NBC cannot be too pleased with what their poll reveals, and that their guy, who's basically in a walking coma, ain't winning.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. If the goal is to deter Iran, you're failing miserably. This idea of hitting hundreds of targets doesn't matter. The only Iranian we killed in Syria, Iraq is some dumbass that doesn't know to get out of the way.

A Middle East mayhem. American military spent the weekend hitting 90-plus targets. This is not a strategy that will work, and the president does not even give the American people a heads up and an explanation about what the strategy is. Number two.

Well, I think you're going to see that the Trump campaign is going to start shifting their focus on just general chaos in regard to Biden's administration, whether it be in the Middle East, whether it be crime, whether it be the border, turning the whole chaos word on its head against Joe Biden. Reince Prievis knows the thing too about strategies to run the RNC. New polls out, and Trump is leading Biden beyond the margin of error as Biden continues to avoid interviews, press conferences, even a friendly Super Bowl sit-down, foregoing an opportunity to sell himself to 50 million people in an election year. Why? Number one.

The key thing here is changes the asylum laws, builds more walls, adds more detention beds, adds more deportation flights, changes this 10-year backlog that we're currently in now to weeks before people are actually deported. That's what the bill really does.

New Border Deal release. We'll give you the facts, the fears, and the chance of it passing, along with the idiotic pilot plan to give New York illegal immigrants prepaid credit cards because they didn't like the food. By the way, if you ever want to catch up to the show, you can use the Fox News app. When you do it, look at the bottom on Watch, and you can also see the show because we stream it. And just go on to see Fox News Radio.

You'll recognize the show. You can also see it on Fox Nation and get the podcast. Michael Goodwin with us now. Michael, welcome back. Good morning.

Brian, thank you. Michael, so let's think about this: $7.2 million. It's going to cost over a million dollars a month to give illegal immigrants. cash, credit cards, uh to go shopping. Because the food, they don't like the food that we're giving them for free, so we're going to let them go buy their own.

How do you feel about that? Um I think it's just another step toward complete insanity.

Somebody mentioned, I think, on Twitter that why not if you're going to give them this kind of aid, why not give them food stamps?

So that the money can only be spent. I mean, that's what we do for citizens who are needy. Why would we give cash? To illegal immigrants. Look, it's just another example of how.

Dumb Mayor Adams has been about all this. I'm sorry to use such a harsh word, but he has just. He objects to so many coming here, and yet the next day he will do something like this. And this has been the pattern throughout. Uh come here, we're a sanctuary city.

Oh, so too many are coming.

Well, what did you expect?

Well, come here, we'll give you a room. We have to give you a place to stay and food to eat. But don't come. I mean, oh, don't come, but we're going to try to get you work permits.

So he has consistently offered this kind of generosity. I mean, the welcome wagon is apparently stuffed with goodies. And then he says, don't come.

Well, why wouldn't they come? Wouldn't you come? Of course. You know, I mean, and a place to stay, and now a debit card. I mean, it's it's he they're living better than the people on the streets or many of the people in the city shelters, of which there are more than 60,000 people.

So it it just defies description as to why he keeps Offering more and expecting that this will solve the problem.

So you know that Greg Abbott is the big evil guy that put people on buses and send them to New York and called their buff, even though even David Axerod said it's been a genius political move to get let every state feel the pain that border states feel. Here's what Governor Greg Abbott said when he heard about this new program, Cut 15. It sounds like insanity is behind it because it it really is is offensive. It's maybe the most reprehensible thing that I've seen take place over the past forty eight hours when you when you see police officers in New York City being beaten By illegal immigrants in this country who should not be in the country in the first place. And then, after they engage in this crime against a law enforcement officer, they are let loose back out onto the streets.

What's going on in New York is outrageous, and Americans across the entire country are angry, not just about what's going on in New York, but the underlying cause for it, which is Joe Biden's open border policy. And he's trying to get them all work permits so they can get jobs.

So that's what the governor is doing, HoCol, while pretending to be upset that one of our policemen get beat up when she does nothing to protect us. We can't recruit enough right now, by the way, too.

So that brings up another story. But your column over the weekend, I think, is really important. You believe the president's actions are leading us to World War III. In what respect?

Well, Brian, I think that Uh Joe Biden is obviously panicked about the polls. You mentioned the latest one with Trump and the Lee, but there have been so many. that show that Biden is just not a popular president, even among members of his own party. We've talked before about the Muslim American voters, particularly in the upper Midwest, and you've got the young voters who are pulling away from him. And a lot of it, or at least some of it, is over Israel, is over his support for Israel.

And I have been writing since very early on in this war, after october seventh, that Biden was doing a kind of giving with one hand and taking with the other in terms of his support for Israel. And that has now reached a new level with his push for a two state solution. which means a Palestinian state. Created immediately in the aftermath of the war, that would have its own government, presumably, that would be admitted to the United Nations. He's pushing for that.

And that as part of the deal to basically sweeten this for Israel, which opposes this state now because it would become a terror state, Biden wants the Saudis to normalize relations with Israel. By the way, Lindsey Graham, whose quote you just had on about other things, Lindsey Graham is a big proponent of this deal and is trying and says he will bring the Republicans along to support it. Meaning a Palestinian state, and normalizations with the Saudis.

Now, what the Saudis would get out of it. Is American civilian nuclear technology, so a nuclear Saudi, and guarantees of protection. And in exchange, they would probably also be leaned on to keep Keep pumping oil through the election so gas prices don't rise and hurt Joe Biden.

Now, this to me is a devil's deal. It first of all, foisting a Palestinian state into the region and onto Israel is a is going to be a disaster. There can be no Palestinian state until there is a Palestinian constituency for Israel's existence. Hamas, Hezbollah, and of course Iran is behind all of this. They want to eliminate Israel.

Iran calls it the little Satan. We are the great Satan. Iran wants us all to go bye-bye. And Joe Biden, all these attacks on the House and all of that. As Graham was making the point, do nothing about Iran.

And it's always about sending messages. It's not about a military victory. It's not about defeating the enemy. It's sending a message. It's trying to get the enemy to see it our way or to see us as some superpower that can destroy them.

They don't see it that way as long as we're just bombing warehouses and things like that. After this effort, after this war in Gaza, presumably, which Biden is trying to end prematurely, you will still have Hamas in control there. And so the creation of a Palestinian state will be, de facto, a terrorist state aimed at eliminating Israel. And Joe Biden is trying to make this happen to win back those voters in the upper Midwest and in the college campuses who have soured on his presidency. I mean, meanwhile, he still sends Israel all kinds of munitions.

That's why I say he's giving with one hand and taking with the other. Here is what Mike Turner said, and you know, he's ranking, he's the chairman of Intelligence Committee. CUP 35. I think that they have confusion among their goals and objectives. They keep shifting as to what they're trying to achieve with the attacks and really what their policy is with respect to response.

You know, that Secretary Austin, Secretary of Defense, said that when Americans are attacked, we will respond.

However, that's not true. They've tolerated over 160 of these attacks. They've been carrying strikes. The well, in minor areas, nothing to actually counter what is occurring here. And that's the issue.

So, I mean, we don't even know. We see very little video. The video I saw is some neighborhood in Iraq. It looks like we blew up some Honda Civic. I'm not sure.

So I don't know what they're hitting. Maybe they got everything. I don't know. But I know this. Did you see this story that Joe Biden has privately ripped Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Eton Yahoo as a bad effing guy as the Gaza war rages and he's paying a price with his young voters?

Also, this other right-leaning member of, I guess, this Ben Guevar gave an interview to the Wall Street Journal. He says he opposes any deal with Hamas that would end the war for free Palestinian prisoners and said Donald Trump would be a better option for Israel than Joe Biden.

So they're having problems over there, and they can't figure out Joe Biden, but they don't want to, they can't be critical just like the Ukrainians can't, because he's slow walking everything. Yeah, I I I think Biden um has totally misread the situation within Israel. Yes, Israelis of all political persuasions are grateful for America's help. We are their their greatest ally and remain so. But I don't think he understands the significance of what happened on october seventh to Israelis.

They can never go back to that again. They can never have a terror group on the other side of a fence. They can and that applies to Hezbollah in Lebanon as well.

So this idea we just call a ceasefire, you'll get back the surviving hostages and we'll go on from there. That may suit his political calendar, but in no way is there any support for that in Israel. Israel is already paying a very heavy price in terms of its lost soldiers, but October seventh was a demarcation day. It can never go back to that. They can never trust A terror group on the other side of the fence.

No Israeli will ever win the elections as long as they are for a Palestinian state that is governed and controlled by terrorists. It simply will never fly among the Israeli populace.

So, what Biden is trying to achieve is forcing this onto Israel. And the European Union is doing the same thing. Let's force this on Israel. It's a disaster in the making, and it could lead, as I write in the column, Brian, this really could lead to a world war. Right.

And lastly, the NBC poll came out. It is stunning for Trump. Overall, Trump beats Biden head to head, 47-42. Obama had 50% approval rating at this point. Trump had 46%, Bush had 53.

This president has 37% approval rating. The economy, Trump over Biden, 55 to 33. Mental capacity, are you competent and effective? 48%. Percent to tell say Trump is only 23 percent say Biden is foreign policy 34 percent approval rating independents 48 29 for Trump white voters Trump by 17 Hispanic voters Biden by one So, my goodness, this is, and NBC couldn't believe the poll they had to digest.

Yeah, look, and we should never forget too, Brian, what What's on the other end of this thing? If Joe Biden were to be reelected, does anybody really believe he can serve four more years for a second term?

So a vote for Joe Biden is a vote for Kamala Harris as president. And I think when the Republicans begin to make that argument more strongly, that I think will give more people a reason to say, well, what's the alternative? And if Trump, as it seems almost certain, is going to be the nominee and therefore the only real alternative, I think the polls are going to swing even more in his favor.

Now, it's also possible, you know, if and when he gets convicted of a crime, there are people who say that would turn them off from him.

So there's a lot of things that are not yet settled as to how this election is going to play out.

So fascinating because the documents case is really going slow and they all got to get clear and say, all got to look through it. And then the January 6th case is on delay, pulled off the calendar in March. Do you know the first case might be the Bragg case? Good luck with that.

Now they're calling it an election interference case. And he's never bragged how. has never revealed how What is a business bookkeeping misdemeanor? Uh w how it becomes a felony. Which is what he charged Trump with, a number of felonies.

So it's bizarre. You have a Manhattan district attorney who, the same one who turned loose the migrants who beat up the cops. This is the Manhattan District Attorney who's going to prosecute the former president over hush money and using Michael Cohen as his chief witness. Right. And he wants to prosecute people who use fake vaccine cards.

By the way, it's just so funny. I'm looking at CNN, looking at the NBC poll. It says Trump narrowly tops Biden in a new NBC poll. Five points. It's beyond the point of error.

He's never had a five-point lead. Are you kidding?

Well, and also the states, right? I mean, the individual states are winning all the swing states. Yeah, I didn't see NBC broke that out, too. They broke it out the regions, but the individual states, too, is another major poll. He was trailing the Quintipiak poll, but that seems to be an anomaly.

Michael, great calm as usual. Thanks so much for bringing it to light here. Mm-hmm. Thank you, Brian. You got it.

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It's Brian Killmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. President Biden made a drastic change in his immigration policy, saying he would be willing to shut down the border if given the power by Congress. It's the kind of unexpected shift in direction Biden usually only makes in the middle of a sentence.

Yeah. The Biden campaign is trying to appeal to black voters as polls show their support for Biden has declined. It's getting so bad he now only has support from Obama's white half. It's pretty funny, right? I mean, I thought it was very funny.

I watched that last night. I just thought the opening was not great for Nikki Haley. Did you see The Cold Open? I saw clips of it. I totally agree with you.

Like, I don't disagree with the cameo there, but at least make sure it's a funny skit. Right. It's terrible. And it just was, you know, it's like: if she wants to come on and hit Trump, I'm for that.

So she comes on, but there was no humor. No humor. Like you should have if you built in I feel ridiculous telling it live this, but just build in a hit on Joe Biden. Just build in, just say, well, one guy's in a call where the other guy is getting, one guy has already lost his mind, and one guy is losing it. And then you know something.

But instead, okay, with everything that Joe Biden's doing, the crazy eating his words, the crazy statements, the refusal to give any interviews, the one word answers in front of a helicopter, with everything going on, I got an opportunity to bring Nikki Haley on and hit Donald Trump, so I'm just going to go do it. But I mean, if I was her, it's hard to turn down, but I probably would have looked at it and go, yeah, this is not something I can do. Be a little more critical. Or, you know, just go a little rogue and throw in your own line if it was good. And if it was live.

Yeah, whichever way. Maybe she might have got booked again. There goes her career. I know. All right.

We're going to go inside what's going on overseas and the strikes with Tom Caraco next. And then we're going to squeeze in your clothes in about 10 minutes. I see your names up there. Don't move. Brian Killmeat Show.

Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. And what we want to do is induce in their minds, in their cognitive space, a concern about continuing on this path and what it might mean to them. Look, Iranian foreign policy is built on three things. It's built on preservation of the theocratic regime, number one, above all others.

Number two, the destruction of the State of Israel. Number three, the ejection of the United States from the region. Number one is a point of strength for them, but also a point of weakness. And I believe we are consciously neglecting it in this campaign. Unbelievable.

That is General Frank McKenzie. He knows the frustration of this administration, who really ruined his legacy by he was in charge at CENTCOM when everything fell apart. In Afghanistan. And now he comes out and he also was the one who helped execute the execution of Salome and other things during the Trump years. And then all of a sudden, Joe Biden's he allowed Joe Biden to ruin his legacy.

But his points I found are right on the money. And they're not warmongers. When people come out and say, oh, these generals want war, they actually just want the opposite. And what happens is, in that area, it is abundantly clear that the only way to avoid war is to show you're willing to fight it and show that we have the firepower to win it. You probably don't want to go here, but we keep taking a hit on Iran off the table.

Tom Caraco joined us now, Senior Fellow with the International Security Program and Director of the Missile Defense Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. Tom, how do you feel about these first hundred strikes after the killing of our guys in Tower 22 in Jordan? Yes, good morning.

Well, look, it's good that we have gotten around to doing this. Of course. The administration, as far back as Tuesday, began to telegraph that these were coming, and then it was widely leaked, I would say, in the 24 to 36 hours. Before the attacks began, the response attacks began on Friday and then again on Saturday. It's good.

I would say it's a good start. The concern one concern would be that again by telegraphing these things that the leadership, especially the IRGC leadership and the Iranian leadership, was able to kind of get the cover, go back to Iran, and therefore are not feeling the pain. And so it's good to be degrading the technical means. It's perhaps necessary to be degrading the militants and the folks on the ground, both in Iraq and in Yemen, but it may not be sufficient. And at the end of the day, this is going to be mowing the grass type operation, as opposed to getting the leadership to change their decision calculus.

And so that's, I think, the important criteria for success here. And I think, unfortunately, we probably fail a little short of that. You know, I just keep in hear these statements.

Well, we have picked up intelligence that Iran was surprised by the attack in Jordan. They were surprised by the January 7th attack, the October 7th attack in Israel. And that to me almost seems like a cover of, you know, we'd like to be on in Israel, but it looks like they were surprised too. I I just don't see that being the case. The man in Casablanca said that he's shocked shocked that there's gambling going on in the establishment.

I think that the question of Iranian involvement and direction, I think, seems pretty self evident. And of course, they're going to have press releases denying that. Russia had press releases in the state newspapers two weeks before they invaded Ukraine in 2022.

So I wouldn't put any stock on that. I want you to hear what Brian Hook said last night with Trey Gowdy. He's a former State Department Special Envoy for Iran, and he was focused on that with the Trump years. I thought it was very insightful. Cut 39.

The only language that Iran understands is pressure and force. And President Trump put in place a campaign of maximum economic pressure. The President of Iran, while we were in office, said that our sanctions cost the regime over $200 billion.

Now the regime, if they had $200 billion, would have spent it on terrorism. But we denied the regime hundreds of billions of dollars. And that was very effective at constraining. their sphere of action in the region. And unfortunately, the Biden administration has taken the exact opposite approach, where they have given the regime $6 billion, and the regime uses that money.

To then support Hezbollah and other proxies to attack American troops, Israel. And our allies around the region.

So, We were very successful at deterring Iran.

So there's no doubt about it. They were much successful, but the Obama supporters would say we had them agreeing to a nuclear deal. And Trump people blew it. I don't feel that way, but I'm going to throw it out to you. What do you say to people who say that?

So I recently did an interview with Politico on this exact question, and I think I agreed with Brian Hook's statement all the way through, except to the very last sentence. The maximum economic pressure. And he did clarify economic pressure. That is all for the good. That was tremendously beneficial.

You don't want to be, and you want to be actively foreclosing every Mechanism and financial means to the Iranians to do mischief, to sow, to support the horrific and evil actors and their proxies. But we do need to be candid and honest, and I think objective, and that is that. Where I disagree is that the Trump administration really deterred Iran. There was a lot of activity that people tend to forget led up to the target against Sulaimani, most notably to kick it off, the shootdown of an American Global Hawk, which we did not respond to. And so some of the criticism in terms of, let's just call it maximum patience.

is a bipartisan problem. strike Iran back in Iran either. We just kind of took that one.

So I think it's important to be objective. Toughness is important. Weakness is provocative. And I think there's lessons here from multiple administrations that we should apply. Rather, I think that it's going to be interesting too.

And what about the fact that Israel is not making as much progress in Gaza as they thought? They've killed about 20% of Mos fighters, and they seem to be reconstituting in places that Israel has wiped out and moved forward on. Would does that make you think them They should should they be recalibrating?

Well, I I think the Israelis are clearly very committed. To a never again outcome in terms of the Gaza piece of this. As you say, the reconstituting in other places, not merely in Gaza, but especially whether it be Iraq or whether it be in the north. And the big danger here, the big risk here, is Israel facing attacks, larger scale attacks. From Hezbollah or from other actors up in the north.

They can get the Gaza situation wrestled to the ground eventually, but it's going to be the other things that matter. And back to connect that to Iran, we need to change the decision calculus. of those who are aiding and abetting these these simple proxies. What is your view of what we should be doing for Ukraine? I think we should be doing everything we can to massively degrade the Russian army, the Russian horde.

I support that. I support the provisions and the supplemental. It's not a one or the other thing. We should be helping our friends in Israel. We should be absolutely boosting up Taiwan and our other allies in the PACOM.

But at the end of the day, it's costing us peanuts, and we're mostly giving them items from our junk drawer in order to inflict massive costs on the Russians. And again, the evil that the Russians are manifesting, but also from a pure realism, pure geopolitical aspect. our efforts from now two administrations is a return to major competition with Russia and China. We cannot afford to let Russia win in Ukraine. Uh do you think the American people understand that?

I think the administration needs to do a much better job of communicating that. There's only been sort of half of one speech. uh by uh President Biden. when he's done that.

So I think unfortunately, no. You wonder if he's capable. He just turned out a Super Bowl interview. He doesn't want to explain the hundred strikes over the weekend. Will not sit for a press conference.

Will not do a sit down. I'm wondering what's going on. I do not feel reassured any time I hear Jake Sullivan speak. But look, again, I think the messaging needs to be massively better, but I feel very strongly that it is absolutely America's national security interest, both short-term and long-term. To help Ukraine win, and that that will redound to our benefit and our allies' benefits, not merely to deterring Russian aggressiveness with our friends in Eastern Europe and things, but also, frankly, to the Chinese.

The world needs to see that Western and American-made hardware will defeat the Russian and their Russian knockoffs. every single day and twice on Sunday. And that's our strength. That's one of our strengths. And uh it it is has massive intelligence and deterrence.

Benefits in addition to just helping Ukraine. How hard would it be to get them attack them? Do you think we should get them once and for all? Yeah. So I've supported repeatedly sending ATACM to Ukraine, but the challenge is that we, no kidding, are limited in our capacity for that in terms of the number that we have.

You don't have many. Is that correct? And that is why the news report from this past week That we sent over a kind of a ginned-up munition. We take a small diameter bomb and put a strapped rocket motor to it. It's called the Ground Launched SDB, GL SDB.

It's not as good as an eight Hackens, but it's a heck of a lot better than some of the other long-range rockets that they have right now. And so I think we need to be looking for all kinds of things like that. We want to give them capacity. We want to give the Ukrainians greater reach. And by the way, we need our European friends, the French and the Germans, to be standing up with their scalp and other Taurus cruise missiles, for instance.

All right.

Thanks so much. Tom Caraco, always insightful at these very perilous times. Appreciate it. Thank you. All right.

The other big story that came out is this border bill. And the border bill came out yesterday. You have 280 pages, just not even on Ukraine aid. Not even on Israel Aid. That's separate, but 280 pages on revamping.

Border security, I guess, the overall arching thing. And what you have is with Cinema, with Senator Murphy, and Senator Lankford, you have a situation where they're going to change the asylum rules. It's going to help. There's going to be an automatic trigger shut off at 5,000, which means any encounters, not letting 5,000 people in, but right now they're getting over 5,000 a day at the border, some as hard as 11,000. That would automatically shut down the border, including legal entries too, through port of entry.

Everything just shuts. And it stays that shut until they can get that number down. Then it would reopen again.

So $5,000 is a little high, but it doesn't mean they're allowing $5,000 a day. It means it's just a shutoff mechanism. To me, it's like the stock market. They're also going to spend $20 billion to improve border security. They're going to get the $156 million to get another 50 miles of wall built, which is going to help.

The GOP says they want more wall money. They want a more limited parole. Unaccompanied minors, this is what the Democrats got. They can still stay. And families, but they're going to have DNA kits of the border.

And now they're going to offer asylum claims separate from judges. There'll be border patrol at the point of entry, wherever it is, who will decide if you have a reason to be here. If not, you're going to be turned around and money is going to be provided for that. Among the Democrats that are not for this, probably every squad member in the House, also Senator Padilla, said this bill of California. He said, this bill will miss the mark.

It's a Trump-era immigration bill that will cause more chaos.

So, more than just Republicans have a problem with it. But I will say this: Mitch McConnell came out and says, I would expect a bill like this with the Republican president. I would think we got a lot. I never thought we'd get a bill like this with a Democratic president. But the problem is, you listening to me right now have no faith, nor do I, that President Biden won't find a way around enforcing all this while taking credit for saying I got a bipartisan Border Bill first since Ronald Reagan.

There's a lot more details to it. I'll give it to you on the other side. Also, let you hear what Lankford had to tell me earlier today. You listen to the Brian Killmeat Show. Don't move.

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So, we actually have this bill came out yesterday, Sunday. The first procedural vote is Wednesday, and that procedural vote is literally just open it up to be able to go through it and to be able to say, Are we going to debate it this week? That's what Senator Lee is actually talking about. It's interesting that he said he's already opposed to it. He needs three weeks to be able to read it, but he's already opposed to it.

So, again, people have got to be able to read it, go through it themselves. Don't just go off a Facebook post somewhere what the bill says. This dramatically changes asylum, it dramatically changes deportations. We no longer have a 10-year backlog, it builds more wall. Those are the key things that it actually does.

But read it for yourselves, don't just believe what's online. So again, we're back to the crazy details of this of people that are throwing stuff in there just trying to be able to attack a proposal that actually closes the border down. Yes, there's a discretionary piece on this, but it's a mandatory close down. They've got 275 days in the next year that has to be closed down. There is some discretion for the president to be able to reopen it, 45 of those.

If we have something like a hurricane come through Central America, something like that, we're trying to be able to manage a natural disaster. But it's not like just a random turnaround on this. And I've had folks that have said, hey, the Secretary of Homeland Security would have those authority.

So would every president.

So would a Chad Wolf in a future Trump administration would have authority.

So the key thing here is changes the asylum laws, builds more wall, adds more detention beds, adds more deportation flights, changes this 10-year backlog that we're currently in now to weeks before people are actually deported. That's what the bill really does.

So Senator Langford's going to Batford's bill. Today is the first day he's doing it. My goal in the interview on television an hour ago was just to give him an idea. To say, tell what is in it. Then I played his critics.

Which one is this? Speaker Johnson said, I've seen enough. I don't want to support it. And Senator Mike Lee says, I don't want to, I need three weeks to read it, but I don't support it. And he just pointed out, Really?

I've been working on this for six months. Don't you want to at least read it? But on the flip side, why is Senator Schumer rushing to how he's got a procedural vote scheduled for today or tomorrow? At which time they're going to start debating it, and then they're going to might have a vote on it in two days. But.

There's no way Republicans are going to go along with it, I understand, if they just have the ten votes enough to pass it through. Lindsey Graham looks like he's all in. Langford obviously is all in. And then you have probably a Mitt Romney Would be all in, right? Whatever he does to do the opposite of what Trump wants.

It's pretty much what he does. And then. Mitch McConnell liked a lot of it, but he wouldn't vote for it if it's not going to get the majority of Republicans, or at least 20, I would think. I thought it was interesting that Bill Maher just talked about immigration a little. Here's some of what Bill Maher had to say: Cut 13.

Joe Biden saying, you know what, if you just give me a new law, why doesn't the President can fix this? He already has the existing law. And Border Patrol is right to your face. I need a piece of paper from Congress to deal with the border. No, you already have that.

Yeah, of course he had it. And for Bill Maher to figure it out, hopefully the average person could figure it out. Here's more, though, because he got mad at Republicans too, cut 12. Immigration is real, but their reaction to it is not real. It's all a bunch of acting.

They should be getting an award this award season here. Because, no, really. They. The Republicans act like they want to solve this, but the Democrats called their bluff. I mean, there is a bill right now.

That a lot of them, Mitch McConnell, like some pretty conservative senators saying, this is as good a deal as you're going to get. They don't want it because they don't want this issue to be solved. See, this is where I differ from.

Some just don't want it to be so, I guess, but most just don't trust Joe Biden to enforce anything. And if Joe Biden, this guy who broke the border worse than any president in our history, out of negligence, Indifference. Intentionality, you pick it. None of them are good. And then you say, okay, now I got a comprehensive hill, the most comprehensive ever, and I love it.

You love it. Did you read it? You couldn't possibly have read it. Schumer, I love it. Really?

You love it. R Senator Murphy.

Okay, wait a second.

Now, nobody got everything they wanted.

So you're not even playing the game right. Saying, I love it. Because why would you love it when you spent three and a half years saying that Trump ruined the border, broke the border, I'm going to undo everything, including if people here want asylum, they will get it. Why would you give all that up unless there's something there that we don't know? That's how much distrust is between them.

I don't necessarily think anybody wants the issue. I think a lot of people would like to. I think if you talk to the Republican governors. A Republican governor in Texas, they don't want the issue. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show.

Brian. In Killmead. Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for being here. Brian Kill Me Cho.

I know he had a very intense weekend, even if you watch any of the news, between the border bill that was just handed down. Just trying to get a hold of it, 280 pages. I had a chance to talk to Senator Langford today. It's online on foxandfriends.com and foxnews.com. It's going 10 minutes.

Also, We have the situation which is going on in the Middle East. It is flat out on fire. And these stunning polls that have Trump in an up five beyond the margin of error and just growing. Quick announcement, too. If you want to see me live April 27th in Henderson, Nevada, right outside Las Vegas, go to the Grand Valley Ranch at the Grand Valley Ranch Event Center.

Go to BrianKilme.com. Here's my interview with John Walsh over the weekend talking about crime and what's going on in New York as well as illegal immigration. You're going to love this. Listen. Across the country, violent crime rates are falling.

Some cities are going up, but overall, but not everywhere. Overall, we are falling these rates. When all the other cities were seeing reductions, Baltimore was seeing increases, right? And this past year, we saw a reduction, but we saw a reduction that was almost twice that of the NASH ever since. We want to continue to success, driving down crime in a real way and improving public safety.

Please, no one buys that. And joining us right now, the host of America's Most Wanted, John Walsh. Thanks so much. Do you think that Mayor Adams and President Biden have it right? Crime is under control, going down?

Did you see our stumbling president try to get through that in some cities? He's cherry-picking a couple cities, but those cities, the crime spikes were huge last year, and they might have gone down two murders this year. That doesn't count as crimes going down. Look at this. In the world statistics, name the top 10 murder capitals of the world.

The first six are Mexico. They had 31,000 murders on the border by the cartels, etc. The next four are St. Louis, Baltimore, New Orleans, and Chicago. We're in the top 10.

Four of our cities are in the top 10 most murderous countries in the world. And Chicago, in the last two years, 1,326 murders. One year, they only arrested nine guys for 800-plus murders. What about Portland? Remember the riots in Portland and Seattle, right?

Portland was one of the first cities to defund police. Guess how much homicide. Spiked last year in Portland. 700%, because no cop wants to work in Portland. They can't find cops.

Why would you work there? Why would you? More cops got killed in the line of duty last year than since the beginning of this nation.

So think about what's happened since you kind of left the air and went to your horse ranch.

Now, all of a sudden, there's no consequences for crime. Right. Cops have been made to be the enemy, and we're realizing we're trying to make the criminals the good guys. And in turn, there are no cops. This is an excerpt.

We have a staffing crisis in New York City. We've lost 3,000 officers last year. Our members are overworked, understaffed, not being able to get days off. We are losing police officers every single day, over 200 a month. We cannot sustain this for the long run.

That's the PBA president, Patrick Hendry, and he's saying this in New York, where we've lost thousands of officers but still have 34,000 and they can't handle it. You can't recruit them. Chicago tried to recruit police officers. I think almost half of the guys there and women resigned and went on to other places.

So what are they doing in these? Different cities are riding one to a car, not two, not a backup, one to a car is dangerous. 12-hour days.

Some cities are working 12 days to get one day off. They had a recruitment in Chicago. 80% of the guys who showed up were morbidly obese, couldn't write, read, or write, and they only hired five cops. It's impossible to get a cop. I always wondered what you were thinking when the funded police movement went out.

Now Democrats say night. It's not insane. What about keeping our kids safe? It means something personal to you. We know about your son, Adam, that got you into this business.

Take a look at some of this video of this one kid being abducted, caught on camera. That was when somebody from their apartment complex tried to kidnap her, and this guy ended up getting away. Other girl ended up thankfully getting away. Is it more dangerous for kids, or we just have more ring-door bell cameras? Way more dangerous for kids.

Pedophiles everywhere, all over online, and I'm not, it's a real reality. We have the National Center for Missing Exploited Children started in our garage by our wife after Adam's murder. And we teach kids when somebody comes up to you and tries that old BS, I've lost my puppy, or I need directions or whatever. The key is go the opposite way of the car. They don't like to leave the safety of the car.

So the right thing to do is get toward the sidewalk, get as far as way and they got to turn around and come after you and scream to your top of your lungs because the kids who scream and say, This is not my father, this is not my father, I need help, help, help. They're the ones like that little girl did the right thing. I'm going to add something else, another wrinkle, and that is what's coming across our border. Not only thousands, the tens of thousands of people we don't know, dare I say 8 million. We are finding people turning up on the terror watch list.

And these are the people that are. 700 of them. 700. If you take a look at 2017 to 2020 during the Trump years, you had two in 2017, six in 2018. Last year, 172, 336 so far this year.

What's going on?

So I was the only guy allowed at ground zero. I went on day two, and I'll never forget it: the burning and the smelling and all that type of stuff. It only took 19 of those guys to take down the towers. We now have 700 that we know of terrorists that have come in this country from different terrorist groups. Groups.

Hamas, Hezbollah, you know, all the different Hoofies. What are they going to do in here? They're not coming here to work at the boys and girls' clubs. They're coming here to kill Jews and kill Christians and take down our society. 700 of them walked across that border.

And, you know, I have a wonderful housekeeper from the Philippines, and I have guys, Latin guys, many of them over the years, work on my ranch. They're furious. They're asking the same questions. She said, I waited in line eight years to be a citizen. It cost me $7,000.

I had to learn English, pay my taxes. And the guys in my barn say, 10 million illegals have come in here. They're going to take our jobs. They're going to work for less. Why did we wait in line?

Why did we wait in line? And I ask the question, service people will ask me, why did Biden fire 8,000 servicemen, colonels, Green Berets, Special Forces, because they wouldn't take a COVID shot? Have any of these 10 million people been tested for tuberculosis, for COVID, nothing? They walked across, and I was in California last week, and Gavin Newsom says, if you can sneak in. To California, we'll pay for your sex operation.

And your general health care phone. And people don't know that the government is giving these guys that come in here TSA pre-check. That costs $80 so you can get in the line soon. These people that work for me are so furious about what's going on on the border. Let me just say the most important thing.

We had my orcas, who I can't stand, the arrogance mile, before a subcommittee in a month and a half ago. And the question was: how many unaccompanied minors from six years old to 17 were pushed across the border in three months? He put his head down. He says, I don't know, but they knew. And they said, 85,000.

And I prepped him for the questions. All you simply had to do was take a Q-tip DNA swab, put it in a little jar, take a picture. Where are you from? Your six-year-old girl, your seven-year-old girl. You're from Acapulco, Nicaragua.

Where are you?

So, you know what he said? We didn't do any of that. 85,000 kids, and where are they going? The cartel charges $3,000 to bring your Mexican or Central American little 14-year-old daughter, guaranteeing she's going to. Work as an illegal maid at the Risk Carlton in L.A.

They get across the border at Eagle Pass. Who's waiting for them on the other side? MS-13, the biggest sex traffickers in the world. Other gangs are waiting. And we don't know where 85,000 kids were pushed across that border.

Everything you said is factual. You're not talking politics, you're talking facts. And ladies and gentlemen, there's going to be an election coming up. And if we don't change leadership, we're going to have more of that. It's only going to get that border today.

I tell you what, I could have won another half hour, John Walsh. I got to get him in on the show for a whole hour. Coming up next, a special treat. Max Lugavir had tragedy hit his life. He's really a journalist, a nutritional journalist.

You will all benefit from this. Coming up next, my interview with Max Lugavir. You listen to the Brian Killmeat Show. It's Brian Killmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know.

It's Brian Killmead. Max Lugavere is a health and science journalist, New York Times best-selling author, the host of the Genius Life podcast. And that's just some of the stuff he's doing. And Max in studio. Max, great to see you.

Brian, great to meet. How's it going? I mean, the passion that you have and the reason you got in, I think, is important. And then what you've done since, you're helping so many people. But sadly, you got involved in nutrition because you found out about your mom's diagnosis.

Yeah, exactly. I began as a generalist journalist, and I became more specialized as a health and science journalist. By way of necessity, actually, my mother at a very young age was diagnosed with a rare form of dementia called Lewy body dementia. People may be familiar with that condition. It was the condition that Robin Williams was diagnosed with just prior to his death by suicide.

And it's akin to having both Alzheimer's disease and Parkinson's disease at the same time. And I knew nothing about either condition. But when my mom was diagnosed, it was gut-wrenching to me and my family. It was incredibly traumatic. And I did everything I could to understand, to the best of my ability, why this may have happened to her.

And in tandem without, what could be done to prevent it from happening to myself. What did you find out?

Well, I found out that, like many chronic conditions of modernity, dementia often begins in the brain years, if not decades, prior to the onset of symptoms. And to me, that was an incredibly powerful call to action to do what I could to use my skills to advocate for healthier lifestyles, brain-healthy lifestyles. And I learned that it's not a genetic that, you know, there are many different types of dementia, but when talking specifically about Alzheimer's disease, for example, which is the most common form of dementia, pretty much everybody today has been touched by Alzheimer's disease. That's a condition that is by and large determined by an exposure or a set of exposures to our environment. It's not a genetic condition for the vast majority of people who suffer from it.

And lo and behold, my mom is the first person in my lineage to have suffered from dementia. And so for me, that posed this incredible question, right? Like, what was it about my mom's environment that was so toxic that she developed this awful condition? And where did she live? Was she live in the city?

Yeah, so I'm born and raised in New York City. My mom was an affluent woman. For the latter portion of her life, she was able to afford healthful food, but nonetheless, she was struck by this condition, which now affects so many. And I think it probably had something to do with the food environment, which is now 73% ultra-processed. And this is something that began probably around the 70s, where the influx of ultra-processed food-like products really began to reign on the market.

And now our diets are saturated with it to the degree that 60% of your average adult's food intake is comprised of these ultra-processed foods, which are calorie-dense, nutrient-poor, high-margin. And so that was actually the first place that I started to look, the food environment. And so, what did you discover? And were you able to help her in her time? I know she passed away in 2018.

She passed away in 2018, yeah. You know, I can't, I'll never be able to know, I'll never know what it was specifically that triggered my mom's illness. But what I did learn is that by and large, you know, we're seeing skyrocketing rates of obesity. By the year 2030, one in two adults are going to be not just overweight, but obese. We live in a time where at least half of the population is either diabetic or pre-diabetic.

Most incidences of pre-diabetes are actually undiagnosed. And if you have type 2 diabetes, for example, your risk for developing Alzheimer's disease increases between two and fourfold.

So all of these conditions are intricately related. And we're now starting to realize that to the degree that Alzheimer's disease is being considered a form of diabetes of the brain, type 3 diabetes, is how some are describing it.

So when did this go from, hey, I want to make a lengthen my mom's life and maybe solve what she's dealing with, to I'm going to help other people too and launch the podcast and this passion? Yeah, so I mean, I love to be incredibly transparent and truthful about my background.

So I didn't go through academia. I'm not a medical doctor, but I was a journalist and I had honed skills as a journalist, like storytelling, being able to create content, and specifically being able to create content and good content for a young adult audience. I used to work for a TV network called Current TV, where I specialized in creating short forms. Short documentaries, essentially, that would capture the waning attention spans of young adults, millennials. And I also had a knack for understanding and communicating science.

I actually started college on a pre-med track. I've always been passionate about nutrition and fitness. And so when I set out to evangelize, in a way, what I was learning. Very much for the for the benefit of my family, right? Not not so much for commercial gain or anything like that.

Like, I never would have anticipated having written a book at this point and being the host of a very popular health podcast. But it was really, how can I use my skills to make an impact on this condition?

So, the movie, I'm going to roll a clip of your trailer from your movie. Yeah. Could you give us set it up? Yeah, so the movie, the documentary is called Little Empty Boxes. It comes out this year, and it is essentially a portrait and time capsule of my mom's journey, what it's like to have dementia from both a patient standpoint and caregiver standpoint, and also a tribute to the science, this growing field known as dementia prevention, which I feel very lucky and humbled and honored to have helped, in a way, usher in into the sort of public awareness.

And you've worked it into your diet too? I've worked it into, yeah, yeah.

So I've changed my diet as a result of the production on the film and all the subsequent research that I've done. Here's a little clip. I've tested many diets over the years looking for the healthiest ones. A major challenge in nutrition studies is everyone is unique and responds differently to the same food.

So what if we got people who are genetically the same? Twins share the same DNA, so we get to see if it's about your greens, not your genes. For the next eight weeks, we'll be investigating the pros and cons of a healthy diet that contains meat and dairy versus a plant-based diet. We're as sure processed meat causes cancer as we are that cigarette smoke causes cancer and plutonium causes cancer. Every time you eat a steak, a little puff of smoke goes up in the Amazon.

Many of the same things that promote human health are also good for the environment. If you ask any human being, do you want to save the planet or destroy the planet? I mean, come on, it's a no-brainer, right? We can solve a lot of the issues that are hurting us by just rethinking what's at the end of our fork. Max Lugavier, your approach is to try to blow up, if of course necessary, some of the Some of the, I guess, fallacies that are out there that we take as fact.

Yeah. Well, I just want to clarify: the clip that was just played, so that's not from my documentary. That's from a new Netflix TV series called You Are What You Eat.

Okay.

Yeah, which I had nothing to do with. My documentary is called Little Empty Boxes, and it's about dementia. This clip that you just played a clip from has been making the rounds now on social media, and it's a trending documentary, TV series on Netflix. And it's actually a nutrition film, but with a much different vantage from a much different vantage point. And this film that is now, I guess, making the rounds on social media, and a lot of people were talking about.

Is actually a uh form of uh pro-vegan propaganda that I've called out on social media. And it comes, it's basically save the world, eat vegetables. Go vegan. Not just eat vegetables, but ditch animal products completely and go fully plant-based. And it is produced by a vegan association called OPS, the Oceanic Preservation Society.

It's directed by a vegan, and it focuses on a study run by a vegan out of Stanford University, who also sits on the board of a vegan advocacy group called a Plant-Based Diet Initiative. And so the conclusion at the end of this documentary series, they put two twins. They take sets of twins and put one twin on a quote-unquote healthy omnivorous diet, and they put the other twin on a quote-unquote healthy vegan diet. And miraculously, at the end of the TV series, they come to the conclusion that we should all be on vegan diets, which makes perfect sense when you consider the bias of everybody involved. Right.

So, you're saying that they skewed the results, that person wasn't actually healthier? Correct, yeah.

So, there are a lot of what are called confounding variables here, which basically render this comparison that they're trying to make. Impossible, right? They're trying to compare two diets, but they're not controlled the way that diets need to be controlled to make a direct comparison.

So the vegan dieters ended up consuming fewer calories by about 200 fewer calories, which is significant. They ended up losing weight. And notably, they ended up losing more muscle mass in this TV series because they were eating significantly less protein. Protein is incredibly important to maintain muscle as we age. And muscle is now being considered a sort of currency of longevity because it helps us stay mobile and move about the world.

And it's important for metabolic health, which we know that 90% of American adults today actually are in a state of metabolic dis-ease. On top of that, they also, the vegan dieters consumed less saturated fat. They also ate a lot more dietary fiber, which we know independently can reduce LDL. And as vegan diet evangelists tend to do, they make LDL the sole LDL cholesterol. LDL is a lipoprotein that actually carries cholesterol around in the body and is thought to be associated or is associated with.

Is good cholesterol, bad cholesterol, right?

Well, now people are starting to take a more nuanced view of these lipoproteins. And, you know, LDL is, our bodies make both, right?

So to demonize one or the other doesn't make any sense. We're now starting to get a more granular picture of what actually leads to elevated risk for cardiovascular disease. And cardiovascular disease is multifactorial. Diet plays one role, but we're just barely scratching the surface in terms of understanding the kind of diet that is optimal from a heart health standpoint. All right.

Well, I promise you we'll get your clips when you provide them. Do you actually have clips that are out there? Yeah, we do. We have a trailer at littleemptyboxes.com so people can take a peek at that. All right, good.

So we'll look that up. We'll use that. More with Max next on the Brian Killmeat Show. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Welcome back to the Brighton Kill Me Show. Max Lugavir, host of the Genius Life podcast, is here with me, and we are talking about the foods you can eat for a healthy brain. What could you tell us? For example, what have you concluded, if you ever can make a conclusion, what could help your brain health? What are some of the things you can eat to help your brain?

Such a great and important question.

So, from a dietary standpoint, nutrition really is pivotal. Our brains are made up of what we consume. And I think that. Grass-fed, grass-finished red meat is a health food. I've gone to bat for it many times, even though this is controversial.

I will say that this is controversial, even among medical experts and nutrition experts. But it's one of the most nutrient-dense foods that we have access to. You'll see red meat make the list of any chart of nutrient density. It's highly satiating, so it helps us ward off excess adiposity or excess weight, excess fat around the midsection, for example. It's loaded with micronutrients like creatine, which we know is important to metabolic health, as well as brain health.

It's loaded with vitamin B12, which plays an important role.

So I'm a big advocate for that. You can't really have a conversation about brain food without talking about the value of fatty fish.

So salmon is a great example, but also sardines, herring, mackerel, wonderful source of omega-3 fatty acids. The brain is comprised of omega-3 fats. Could you get there through supplements? You can, yeah.

So fish oil is a great option. You want to look for a high-quality fish oil. When I'm buying a fish oil, I look for IFO certification, and I have no affiliation with that organization. But what they do is they do third-party independent testing of fish oils to make sure that there's no rancidity, oxidation, or impurities. And so, you know, with a fish oil specifically, you actually want to buy the best that you can afford.

All right, good.

So that'll be important for your health. What about the aging process? Yeah, I mean, you know, age-related decline seems to be fairly typical these days, but that doesn't mean that it's normal. You know, we've kind of Normalized disease in this country because so many of us suffer from age-related conditions, whether it's depression, frailty, sarcopenia, sarcopenic obesity, which we know is highly detrimental to the brain. And so I think one of the best ways to ward off aging is by maintaining a vigorous exercise routine.

So there were actually studies, there was a really great study actually published in 2023 by Loon et al. that found that When 85-year-olds took on a resistance training routine, they saw the same degree of strength increase, about 40% of a strength increase in their one rep max for their leg extensions, which is a measure of your quadricep strength, that 65-year-olds saw. Wow. Yeah. So, I mean, people tend to, you know, think of aging as this sort of passive process by which we are all pulled inevitably towards decrepitude.

But resistance training is the best way to fight back against aging. Yeah, find a way. I don't want to build big bulky muscles. It's nothing to do with it, right? There's different exercises we do instead of a fitness program.

You don't get that through your doctor. And you point out, too, that by the time you go to your doctor, you're not healthy.

So you need things to prevent you because it's not a healthy situation. You need things that are going to keep you out of the doctor's office. Exactly.

So you made up your program. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, here's the deal. And I saw this firsthand with my mom. I mean, I've been in myriad doctor's offices.

I've been to the best cathedrals to actually. Academic medicine in the country. Because again, my mom had resources, but we were desperate like anybody would be. And what I found. Is that by the time you show up to your doctor's office, what you're looking for ultimately is sick care.

Healthcare is what begins at home. It begins when you are negotiating with yourself to pull yourself up off of the couch and get to the gym, or even without a gym membership, do the push-ups and the pull-ups and the wall sits and all of these different exercises that we have at our disposal to foster whole body strength, which we know is so important from the standpoint of metabolic health, bone health, like resistance training. A lot of people, when they go and get that diagnosis of osteopenia or osteoporosis, they'll start taking a calcium supplement, thinking that that helps. It doesn't hold a candle to resistance training. And I think for older generations, this is something that is highly underappreciated.

I know that exercise, as far as my mom was concerned, was aerobic exercise. And we know, you know, cardiovascular exercise is certainly important. But what the past few decades or decade really of exercise science has shown us, it's that resistance training really is sort of a holy grail. Of aging healthily.

So, what about these studies? I mean, I see some of your tweets back and forth where you took on Tufts College because you said Tufts told us the lucky charms are healthier than an egg. Harvard warned that steak may cause type 2 diabetes. Stanford got its own you must go vegan guilt trip TV show.

So, this is when you decide to take on these huge organizations, dare I say, schools. Yeah, well, my, you know, what I've decided to do with my career is punch up and speak truth to power. I think part of that is my duty as a journalist, but also because I'm so deeply immersed in the world of nutrition science and because I have a vested interest. I had a loved one who was incredibly sick and who was victim of a lot of this messaging, right, that comes from whether it's mainstream media or these academic institutions. And, you know, sadly, a lot of nutrition science today is not.

Quite evidence-based, it's evidence-biased. And so, you know, I like to really go head-to-head against these institutions when I feel that the time is right and do it in a way that's responsible because at the end of the day, I love nutrition science. I love it. But, you know, we see a lot of corporate interest these days. We see a lot of, you know, inappropriate overlap between the food industry and nutrition science, and also what I like to call covert bias.

So, you know, when you're getting nutrition advice from somebody, that advice should be solely limited to the domain of nutrition science. But today, often it's muddled by covert activism, right? It's people who are giving their advice, but through the lens of climate activism or through their lens of animal welfare, which is. And that's what you found with this? There was a reason they came up with these studies?

Yeah. So the Tufts University Food Compass, which went super viral on social media, and I still get pushback whenever I talk about it, Tufts tried to release a. What they call, well, what is called a nutrient profiling system of their own called the food compass. And what they did was they took tens of thousands of food items found in the supermarket and they up and they and they basically like Applied an algorithm that they devised to all of these different food items to come up with a score, right? A healthfulness score that they gave to all of these many different foods.

And a separate group led by Beale et al. Found that when you take these foods out of context, right, and stack them one on top of one another and create sort of a food hierarchy, that there are some very odd juxtapositions that you see. You saw things in this chart that went viral, this chart that went viral subsequent to the release of the food compass data. That Lucky Charms, according to Tofts, was healthier than a poached egg, right? That.

Egg substitute fried in vegetable oil was somehow healthier than a real egg, which, you know, a four-year-old would look at that and be like, that is just BS. And critics to the pushback that the Tufts Food Compass received said, well, you know, these food items weren't meant to be taken out of their respective categories, and that, you know, the scores weren't necessarily meant to say that one food is healthier than another. But if you actually go to the Tufts website, Tufts did exactly that. Right. The score, a food with a higher score was meant to be consumed more frequently.

A food item with a lower score was meant to be consumed less frequently. And that's what a scoring system is meant to do, right? Like we don't give sports teams scores, right? For no reason, right? We give them scores.

They achieve scores. And when you examine it, they got defensive and they started saying you're reading it wrong. Exactly.

They got defensive. They got defensive. But I think calling it out was so important because the whole point of this food compass nutrient profiling system. Was meant to provide information for consumers on front of package labeling.

So, give us an idea how to get to the bottom of all your research. You did the hard part. Yeah. So, we could just follow you.

So, you got the movie out? How do we get it?

So, littleemptyboxes.com is a great way to keep tabs on the documentary, which is about dementia prevention. I host a podcast called The Genius Life, and I've written three books. Where do we get The Genius Life? The Genius Life. All podcasts.

All podcast platforms and on YouTube, yeah. All right.

And then you, and the book? And so, my first book is called Genius Foods. It's a nutritional care manual to the brain. I highly recommend checking that out. That was the first book I ever wrote.

And it's a New York Times bestseller. It's published now around the world. It really is a sort of nutritional care manual to the brain: how to get better brain health and mental health through food. And then my most recent book is called Genius Kitchen, which is both a cookbook and a wellness guide. Lots of delicious recipes, photos, things like that.

Sounds like a great book. Coming up, though, Max tells me the truth on impossible burgers and Joe Rogan. You are listening to the Brian Killmeat Show. Remember to check out Brian's show, One Nation, Saturdays at 9 p.m. Eastern on Fox News Channel.

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So, I mean, the one thing is, you love this. I love it. And you feel like there's still a lot more to learn? I do, yeah.

Well, yes. I mean, on the one hand, I think that. You know, we don't We don't need more science to know that a whole foods diet is more optimal than an ultra-processed food diet, right? But obviously there are forces out there that want to convince us otherwise, right? I mean, there was a study that came out that they tried to push past the public showing us that a healthy diet could be comprised primarily of ultra-processed foods, which is, of course, BS.

How would you define a processed food?

So that's a fantastic question. And processing is a continuum. When you have an apple, you know, in front of you, that's an unprocessed food. When you slice that apple, you're processing it to some degree, right? And of course, apple juice is the most processed form of that apple.

So even if I squeeze the juice like I would an orange, I'll do it. You're processing it. What you want to do is base your diet around minimally processed foods. When you cook food, you're processing it to some degree. But what we want to be really wary of are the ultra-processed foods.

So these are foods that you couldn't possibly make in your own kitchen if you tried, right? They have innumerable ingredients, right? Ingredients that you can't pronounce. And people, you know, skeptics might listen to. Me say that and say, Oh, appeal to nature fallacy.

But it actually is a pretty good litmus test. You know, like if if a food item has, you know, dozens of ingredients and you can't pronounce half of them, well, that that pretty that correlates pretty strongly, you might assume, to a food that is ultra-processed that you couldn't possibly make in your own kitchen. That's pretty good barometer. Yeah, it's pretty surprising if I can't make it. But I am surprised by that.

Like, for example, if I just get an old-fashioned 1950s orange juice squeezer, and I just get an orange right from a tree, and I put it in that steel crusher with the juice, I am processing it. I'm not adding sugar. I'm not doing anything. I'm not even taking out the pulp.

Well, you are 100% processing it, and the way that your body responds to those different food products, right? The whole orange versus the orange juice that you've just made in your own kitchen, right? Your body is going to handle both of those very differently. The orange juice, you've extracted all of the fiber, and all you're left with essentially is the sugar and vitamin C from that orange juice, right?

So vitamin C is great. And, you know, there are some studies that suggest that orange juice can still play a healthful role in the diet. Of course, if you're consuming it in moderation, no problem. I wouldn't worry about it. But the whole orange.

Is self-limiting. Whereas in a glass of orange juice, you could easily consume the sugar from three whole oranges, right? Because it's not as satiating as the whole orange, which has that whole food matrix, which we're now starting to learn is so important. It's got the fiber, right? It's got the minerals.

So my sense is my gut always told me that if it's coming from nature and there's sugar in it, that sugar is not bad for you. Exactly.

Exactly.

So I love to separate fact from fiction on social media, and I also love to myth bust. And yeah, you're 100% right in that sugar from in its whole food form is totally fine. Sugar is not inherently toxic. There's nothing wrong with all plant food. Foods, which are incredibly healthy.

We know that fruits and vegetables are very good for you. Have sugar to some degree, right? And even a little bit of added sugar here and there is not a big problem if you're active, right? If you're exercising regularly. Like, sugar is not the devil that I think some people make it out to be, but it's meant to be consumed in moderation.

On the other hand, I think your average adult today consumes something like 70 pounds of added sugar every single year. The only thing impossible burgers are is junk. Filled with Crap. It's terrible. Yeah, it's just ultra-processed.

Yeah, I wouldn't. I felt good about it until people started telling me, Do you realize how bad they are for you? Yeah. I mean, you know, again, here and there in moderation, it's not a problem. I mean, look, like, you know, people on paleo diets, they eat, there's, you know, all kinds of paleo breads on the market now.

So paleo diet advocates are, you know, they have their own form of imitation food, right? But I think at the end of the day, this false comparison that people make, these plant-based meat alternatives, don't hold a candle to the real thing when looking at their nutritional value. And also, again, they're minimally processed, and we've co-evolved with food, right? We've co-evolved with animal products. And animal products, like a piece of beef, right?

Like we could even say lean beef, it's not just a great source of protein, it's a great source of all of these different myriad nutrients that we know play a role in our physiology. Do you care what the cows were eating before you slaughtered it and ate it? You know, I do care. I think that 100%. Does that matter?

It does matter, but to a, what I would call probably a Trivial degree in the grand scheme of things. As soon as you're grass-fed and yeah, if you have the resources to buy grass-fed, I say by all means do it. It's better for the cow, it's better for the environment, and it's better for you, right? But also, even a piece of, and I hate to promote the factory farm system because it's abhorrent to the animals and it's abhorrent to the environment.

So that has to be said. But I also think that for your average person now who's serving, you know, boxed mac and cheese for dinner, to make the swap over to factory farm meat, I think that's a helpful decision to make. Understood. I just always, too, you had to take their word. Like salmon, you know, is non-what is it?

What do they call it? There's fresh and what do you call it? Farm raise there's farm raise and there's wild. They're also going on there at work. Who are these people telling us how where we caught the salmon?

Yeah, well we can't let perfect be the enemy of the good. Yeah. You know, like we don't all have access to the kinds of supermarkets that I have living in Los Angeles, that you have living in New York. You know, I mean, like, we can't let perfect be the enemy of the good. And context matters.

We live in a world, again, where 73% of the Food products in your average supermarket are ultra-processed. Right. Did you find that Joe Rogan, did he know everything about the nutrition when you were on with him, right? Yeah, he's a big fan of nutrition. Did you feel like he could keep up with you?

Oh, for sure. I mean, that guy is sharp as hell, and he's, yeah, he's amazing. I was so grateful for the opportunity that he gave me. And I was on episode 1870. It was a masterclass in dementia prevention.

Yeah, yeah. He's super into it. He's a big advocate of, you know, he consumes. plants, he consumes, you know, fruits and vegetables. He also consumes meat that he hunts himself.

And, you know, wild game tends to be leaner than factory farmed raised meat anyway.

So it's, I mean, it's a healthful, it's a more healthful choice. How he has time to shoot his own dinner is beyond me with everything he's got going on. You're right. Max Lugavir, great seeing you. Great to meet you.

Congratulations on everything. And I'm glad we didn't throw you by rolling in the wrong clip. You're able to roll with it. You knew exactly where we got it. Yeah, brother.

Well, thank you so much, Brian. I won't throw you off the next time, I promise. You're good, man. Thank you. Thanks, Max.

So I think there's one thing that is.

So clear to me between people taking shots to lose weight, between people, everyone going on a new diet, especially in January, been people trying to find out what works. All pasta, no pasta, a lot of carbs, less carbs. Let's get more protein, stop eating meat. It's always good to see someone on the cutting edge that had a life-changing experience because he saw what was happening to his mom and decides to make it his life mission. And what I love most about it is it's an ongoing debate with him, and he's an ongoing learning experience.

But I love the fact, and I didn't know nothing about Max before he got here. But after talking to him in the breaks and after the show, and we'll have him on when his book comes out. I'll definitely have them on One Nation on Saturdays, and I'm sure on Fox and Friends. Just the little things you can do to alter your diet and keep yourself healthy. I mean, ultimately, we are responsible.

I mean, we all know, especially people around my age, you have older parents, and you see some of the things are out of their control, but some of what you do early in your life outlines how you're going to end your life. And if you could make those decisions now. The wisdom of now can help your life later. And if people just need to be educated once they understand why they're doing things, they're motivated to do things.

So that's why I thought it was so important to spend some quality time with Max. Listen, I thought it was going to be a good segment. Then I realized an hour wasn't even long enough. That's why his podcast is so successful. Hey, by the way, pick up Teddy and Booker T on a separate note.

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