Border bill blow up: Sen. Lankford joins Brian to react

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, thanks so much for being here. It's already been an exciting week. It's Tuesday.

It feels like a Friday already. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West will bring us to the border in Texas and tell us what else is going on there as 25 states have sent the National Guard. In New York, they're calling for the governor here, Democratic governor. It's not likely to send the National Guard there too because outside the border cities, the border states, we are the most affected here. It is truly lawlessness through people who have no business being here.

And Senator James Langford is standing by. I also have the sad news of Toby Keith's passing at the age of sixty two. He was a great friend of the show. Spent a couple of hours here on this radio show. He could talk about anything, extremely patriotic guy.

He's going to be missed. But let's get to before we get to Senator Lankford, the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three: anyone. That goes. There's a repeated offender of a violent crime. If they are part of the migrant asylum seekers, they are found guilty.

I think that the federal government should do their job of deporting that person. City to city, illegals are creating havoc, leading crime waves, drunkenly fighting in our shelters, and now beating down our cops. We look at the challenges facing inner cities because of our broken border and outright invasion. As someone once said, they are not sending us their best. Number two: $160 billion that taxpayers.

Don't have to pay to Medicare to give them these dogs. Before the pandemic, there were 750, 48 or maybe, roughly, 750. What's he talking about? 2024. President Biden another disastrous speech on his unique reelection schedule, as former President Trump has two requests.

He wants to debate right now, and he wants to take the current President's interview slot at the Super Bowl. After all, if the President won't do a sit-down and talk about what he's doing, why not hear from someone who will tell you what he would do? Number one. This is a very bad bill for his career, and especially in Oklahoma. I know those people, they're great people.

They're not going to be happy about this. The people in Oklahoma are. You know, these are serious mega, these are serious people. President Donald Trump, not for that border bill, obviously. The border bill blow-up.

From the minute it was released, emotions, rhetoric, and accusations are heard throughout Washington. As a primary vote, a preliminary vote on the 300-plus page bill is scheduled for Wednesday. We dive in with one of the authors, Senator James Langford. Senator, welcome back, men. It's like a tornado hit since it was released on Sunday.

What's it been like for you? It has been like a tornado. Good morning, by the way. And I'm with you on grieving Toby Keith's loss. He's a great Oklahoman and a great American and somebody that loved our troops and loved our country deeply.

And so that is a loss not only for country music, but obviously for the country as a whole. Yeah, it has been a tornado in the last 48 hours, really, as we're getting a chance to release it out. There's been so much misinformation out, and that's been the challenge that I posted a couple of weeks ago a statement from a pastor in the 1850s who made a statement. The lie gets halfway around the world before the truth gets its boots on. And that is the challenge of trying to be able to get facts and information out like this.

5,000 number there, one's thrown around saying it lets 5,000 people in a day, which is absolutely ridiculous and is not what the bill does at all. The heart of the bill is adds more border wall, adds detention beds, adds deportation flights, adds ICE agents, adds border patrol agents, adds fentanyl interdiction, puts sanctions on cartels for fentanyl. It changes the asylum laws, which has been a big issue for a long time.

Something President Trump asked for when he was president was a change in asylum law. It accelerates all of the process for our hearings so it doesn't take 10 years to get an answer, which is the current status now. It takes days to weeks to months, and we can actually turn people around and deport them quickly. That's the heart of the bill. On the back side of the bill, literally seven pages at the end of it, says if all of those things don't work and we have a flood of people come at us, Or right now, what's happening, like yesterday we had 6,700 people that crossed our border that the Biden team just released.

Into the country, it changes the paradigm. It shifts it from catching those folks and releasing them to the country to catching those folks and deporting them. That's what that 5,000 number is all about, to say if we're getting overwhelmed and the system can't handle it, we can't deport people fast enough, then we don't process people at all. We just deport people immediately with no processing. It's an extraordinary authority on the back of it.

But this bill is about zero people illegally crossing the border, not 5,000.

So, how do you feel about it? I could play the whole clip, but you get the gist of it. The president yesterday on with Dan Bongino saying that it's bad for your career that you did this. The people of Oklahoma are not happy with you. How do you feel about that?

Yeah, so I've been overwhelmed with folks in Oklahoma that have actually contacted me and said, thanks for doing something to stop the chaos of the border. There's this frustration that people have that everyone's pursuing the perfect to say if it's not HR2 and the perfect bill, then do nothing. And there are a lot of people in Oklahoma that are calling me and saying, gosh, we've got to get something done. Don't just look at it and say it's a problem. Try to figure out and see what we can get done.

We have a Democrat Senate, a Democrat president, and a House with a two-vote majority Republican on it. This is a difficult time to be able to move anything through, but it's also painful for Americans to look at millions. It's literally a million people in the last four months that have crossed our border illegally. Everybody's saying to me in Oklahoma, do something to make this stop. Even if you can't get everything, do something.

So the Saunche Conservative Union for Border Patrol Officers endorsed the deal on Monday, saying it would codify into law authorities that U.S. Border Patrol agents never had in the past. And immigration refugee rights groups, including Amnesty International, blasted the legislation as containing the most extreme anti-immigrant proposals this country has seen in 100 years. In a way, by blasting it, it's backing up what you're saying. Yeah, it is.

And I have to tell you, all these far left groups that are attacking it like crazy, saying this is so over the top because it'll block out all their rights and everything else on it. This has very fast process to be able to make decisions and to be able to deport. But again, those folks on the right are saying, hey, we want everything or we want nothing on it. And that's where we're stuck as a country. And I think where so many Americans, right, left and center, quite frankly, are saying, let's get as much done as we can possibly get done and try to be able to solve this.

And I understand.

Some folks are like, you got to have it all or you're going to get nothing. I just think we need to make progress.

So, a couple of things. Is it true if people come to the border, they don't have to come to the port of entry? In the past, I guess if you lead it with the letter of the law, if you don't go to the port of entry, you're not supposed to get in. Is that correct?

So the way the law works actually across the entire border, if you get across the border and you're on American soil, you can request asylum no matter where you are on it. And so that's been the challenge, even where we got the wall.

So the wall in Texas, great wall. In fact, this bill builds more wall. It's one of the things we've lined up, and it has to be built according to the Trump specifications in those Trump locations.

So it's very strong in what we've got there for the border wall construction. But the element that people don't realize is by the time you get to the wall in Texas, you're already in America. The international border is halfway across the river.

So literally, as they touch our side of the border, they're already in and they can claim asylum.

Now the question is, what are you going to do with them? What Biden's doing with them is just releasing them in the country and saying we've got a lot of people coming. We don't have enough time to process you. We'll process you later. They end up down the street from you in New York and everywhere else.

What this bill does is says we're going to hold them, we're going to do a very fast, high-level screening, and we're going to deport you immediately. That stops the flow. When you deport people quickly, people don't come and pay a cartel $10,000 to be deported to go back home. Here's what Speaker Johnson said yesterday, cut forward, to Laura. It did not take long to realize that this is dead on arrival.

There's no way we could bring this through the House. The Senate expects us to pass a bill, a piece of legislation that you just did a great job dismantling here. What it would do is actually further incentivize illegal immigration. It would not resolve any of the problems, not reform in any meaningful way the broken asylum system, the broken parole process, and all the things that have created this catastrophe. And by the way, meanwhile, it further empowers the very cabinet secretary who designed and created this mess.

They don't follow federal law. Why would we do this anyway? But the bill itself would actually do more harm than good, and that's why we've said it's a non-starter over here in the House. Do you share his worry about Mayorkas implementing anything? anything that you guys put into law.

Well, he is the current Secretary of Homeland Security, but he will only be so for a few more months at the most, depending on obviously what happens in the next week or two here on it.

So I think the vision to say we've got to do whatever we can to attack Majorkas when you're making law There's going to be a different Secretary of Homeland Security in a year, and a different one five years after that, and a different one five years after that. And so, all this vitriol to go attack Mayorkas and be so short-sighted to be able to say we've got to do whatever we can to not put in laws that will actually be effective when we're actually in the White House, when Republicans are actually in the lead. We'll want that Secretary of Homeland Security to actually be empowered. But for whatever reason, everybody's just focused in on trying to be able to find some way to be able to attack it. I get it.

There are folks that say we don't want any additional law. The frustration to me on it is. The House of Representatives passed HR two, a really good bill that's very comprehensive, got no Democrat support at all, didn't even get all Republicans on it, but they passed that bill and said this is what we want to have. The challenge that we have is when at that time a year ago, they said we need new law.

Now there are folks saying we don't need new law. Just Biden can do this on his own. Trump can do this on his own. We don't need new law. When Trump was president, he said we need a new law.

This makes those changes. This doesn't make the asylum system worse. It makes it much better. That's why the Border Patrol Union, the people that actually implement this, that's why they're saying they want this.

So I understand there are politicians here in D.C. making political statements, but the people on the ground are saying, please send this to us because this will make a bad situation better.

So how do you feel about the President's the former President's criticism? You know, he's got a job that he's going to do, and I get it. He's focused on winning an election, so he's going to get out there and make those statements. My job, I'm in the Senate right now. My job on the Homeland Security Committee is to do whatever I can to be able to help secure the nation in any way that I possibly can.

If he is President of the United States next year, he will be focused on what it takes to secure the nation. If he was president right now, we would not have this chaos at the border. It would not happen right now. But I remember even in 2019, we had some days where we had 4,4,500 people illegally crossing the border, even under President Trump. And at that time, he was saying we need changes in law, and this bill delivers those.

So, right now they say, as of Monday morning, 15 Senate Republicans and three Senate Democrats are opposing the bill. Does it come to the floor? And do you go back? Do you rework some of this? Oh, no, if it comes to the floor, it will come on with the only way that it will come is if we can amend it.

So, this was a negotiated starter bill to get us started, to get to the floor, to then be able to amend it. My focus is: there are lots of things I'd love to be able to have different on this bill. That obviously, what I'm trying to be able to negotiate to be able to get the first round on this, we're getting it to the floor.

So, we get it to the floor, we work on the amendment process if we're able to get it to the floor at all. The focus now is let's get it out there, but let's solve the problem. The worst case scenario for us is say, well, we're just going to have status quo and another 2 million people come into the country as you continue to be overrun all over the country. That's the worst case scenario for us. Let's do something to be able to solve what we can solve and then keep moving because we'll have more to do.

So, Senator Lanford, just mechanically, can you tell us at home, my listeners, so Wednesday they might have a vote, just a procedural vote? Earliest it would come up would be tomorrow for a procedural vote, and then we'll see where it actually goes from there and what happens next on it. That is uncertain. Our conference is still talking about what we can do on the amendments, what that would look like, how we would handle it, or to be able to do it at all. Because, again, there's been so much misinformation out about the bill from folks that have not read it or have just misrepresented it that it will have its own struggles on it.

My challenge is: okay, if we don't do this bill, what can we do to be able to get bipartisan support to be able to actually end the crisis at the border? This is what we've been able to negotiate to get so far. If somebody's got a better way to do it, bring it. But let's not just sit and have a press conference about it. Let's actually solve the problem.

Here's what Alex Padilla said, a Democrat cut nine. Senator. It's not something that I could support, both for reasons of what's in the package, like Trump-era policies of regular border closures, lack of due process, but also for what's not in the bill. Historically, we've balanced some border enforcement proposals with some legal pathways. For example, not a single dreamer will benefit or receive relief through this measure.

So you think he's accurate in portraying it? He actually is. That's the funny thing. You're actually playing a Democrat senator who's actually accurately portraying what's actually in the bill. There's no amnesty of any type in this bill.

And it's been one of the great frustrations on the far left that they've always wanted to say we'll do border security when we get amnesty. There's no amnesty at all in this bill. And it does tighten down a lot of things. Due process is removed from a lot of these locations so we can rapidly move through the hearings. and actually get people deported on it.

It is a detain and deport bill. Senator, a lot of people have said they're worried about the people. They're not official judges. They're going to decide if these people get in or not, if their claims are legitimate, if they have proof that there are their lives in danger. They're not judges.

Who would actually be taking in the intake and making the decisions?

So, yeah, there are two groups of folks that make decisions right now. We are called asylum officers. They work for DHS, and you have immigration judges that work for the Department of Justice. The immigration judges are not judges. That is their title, but they are not judges.

They are employees that work for Merrick Garland in the Department of Justice. Isn't that a problem, though? And I know your critics would say, you just say, wait nine months and hopefully have a new president. But when people look at Merrick Garland and they look at Mayorkis and they think that they have to answer to them, there's no way they're going to be as strong as Senator Langford says the bill claims they have to be. That's the worry.

Yep. And the fear is once as long as we have Biden in the White House, then we're going to have all of our own challenges here. But I remind people: we're not going to always have Biden in the White House. If we're making law, then let's make what the laws that we can at this point and know that we're going to have somebody else that's much stronger on all these policies that are coming. Even President Obama was better on immigration than President Biden.

So we're going to have somebody much better on these issues. Let's empower the people to be able to actually implement this so we can actually change the direction at the border right now. Real quick, what happened to the foreign aid, Ukraine and Israel? Yeah, I have no idea where that goes. Obviously, that's another big issue.

The House of Representatives right now is struggling through what they're going to do in Israel and if they can pass into Israel anything at this point, because all these things were all pieced together. And so our focus was if any aid is going to Ukraine, we've also got to be able to secure the border. And that was the agreement that we've got to have a secure border before we move on to Ukraine. And now, if this bill goes down and there is no alternative, the House is not even working on an alternative, then we have our own challenge. Unbelievable.

So much is taking. Senator Lankford, thanks so much for going out there and patiently explaining what you did, along with Senator Murphy and Center Cinema. Thanks, Senator. You bet. Let's see him solve the problem.

Yeah, absolutely. 1866-408-7669. Bottom of the air, we go to the border, Lieutenant Colonel Alan West. Busy day.

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I've been asking since the first thing, first bill I introduced was on the border. We don't have enough agents. We don't have enough... folks, we don't have judges, you don't have enough folks here. We need help.

Why won't they give me the help all this time? And now they're talking about the border, it's out of control.

Well guess what? Everything in that bipartisan bill gives me control. He's such a liar. It can't be that dumb. He knows that he reversed everything.

He stopped building the wall, reversed return to Mexico. The first country you step in, that's where you apply. He stopped letting ICE cooperate. With law enforcement. He allowed unaccompanied minors to flood into this country.

We have 82,000 kids. We have no idea where they are. And he says, because Republicans didn't give them the power, you had the power. Title 42 gave you the power. You fought and sued to get rid of it.

You fought and sued to get rid of the fence that Texas said to build itself. You're suing them not to be able to arrest illegal aliens as they come in. And now you're saying, I just want the power from day one. You had a Democratic Senate, a Democratic House. If you had legislation, do a couple of things.

Pitch it, show it, talk about it, tell the leadership to go push it forward. They would listen to you. But you didn't. You also have a majority leader who's controlling New York, who's got the most powerful politician not in the White House, Senator Schumer, who never talks about the 67,000 here illegally, the fights, the drunkenness, the stabbings, the moped gangs, the Venezuelan thugs. Never talks about any of it.

Don't tell me this had been a priority of yours. It absolutely was not and is not. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. One hundred and sixty billion dollars that taxpayers.

Don't have to pay to Medicare to give these documents. I make no apologize, no apologies. Roe v. Wade has taken away a woman's right to choose. Before the pandemic, there were 750, 48, or maybe roughly 750.

Billionaires in America. Right after I was elected, I went to what they call a G7 meeting. It was in the south of England. And I sat down and I said, America's back. And Mitterrand from Germany, I mean from France, looked at me.

And said Uh s said You know what? Why why how how long are you back for? That went well, didn't it? And it was even worse when you see it. Believe me.

Horrendous. I mean, he's had five speeches in seven days, and four of them were major gaffes, and nobody shows up. And he won't do any interviews. And I find that inexcusable. Where the Middle East is on fire, we're bombing 85 targets, maybe over 100, and we still got hit or our allies got hit in Syria, one of the militias that we're backing from Kitab Hezbollah.

No idea what we hit or what we didn't hit. And he doesn't want to explain to the American people what he's doing, why he needs Ukraine aid, what he's going to do with Israel. We keep just hearing reports that he's just called Benjamin Etanyahu an effing, you can fill in the last word. He just hates the guy. Lieutenant Carlin West joins us now.

Colonel, this is the most bizarre election season ever. What kind of president who wants the reelection would turn down 50 million people on Super Bowl Sunday? And which is likely to be a pretty soft interview. Yeah.

Well, it's the counter president and it's the county advisors that don't want to risk something bad happen like you just played. Even I know that French President Mitterrand has been dead for, what, 30, 35 years? But unless there was some type of seance, I mean, I can't see any other way that Joe Biden was speaking to him recently at a G7 conference. But it's those type of things that have the Democratic Party very afraid to have him out. And you're right.

Here you have the normal presidential Super Bowl interview, and he's going to take a pass on that. And I can guarantee you that they are definitely not going to bring him out to have any debates.

So again, it just brings up that question about when will they make the decision to move Joe Biden aside? And I think it's going to happen at their convention. But it's ultimately going to be his decision, don't you think? He's got the power. He's got Air Force One.

He's got his family there. I mean, he does not have Barack Obama chose Hillary Clinton over him, and he says he was mourning the death of Bo, and he says he wasn't ready for it, whatever the reason was. But now he does, he is going to make the, I think he feels as though if he's not going to run, he doesn't know it yet. How about that? Yeah, you're absolutely right.

And I think that the machine and the levers, they have not been put into action to get him to step aside. And I think that's going to happen because I don't see his approval rating getting any better. And you just articulated something where we have committed American forces to attack Islamic terrorist organizations, and we don't have any explanation of it from the Oval Office, from the Commander-in-Chief. And that's something you should have. We don't have any explanation as to why we are allowing pro-Hamas demonstrators in our streets and creating violence and threatening people and shutting down our airports.

What are you going to do about that?

So, yes, I think that there's going to come a time when the Democrat Party has to say we can't run with this guy. We have to have someone that can take a lot of the pressure off of us and can demonize Donald Trump if he's the eventual nominee.

Well, it's just interesting. Trump said, I'd like to debate him today, and I would love to take his slot on the Super Bowl on CBS. And, you know, most likely it would be an extremely tough interview. But one thing about Trump. He'll take an interview.

Remember what Van Jones said a couple of weeks ago? The best thing for Joe Biden would be not to do much. And to stay uh stay keep a low profile. Think about that. Oh, yeah.

When you have someone like Van Jones, who's definitely not a constitutional conservative or any even a liberal Republican, when he is saying the best thing we need to do is to hide Joe Biden away, that tells you about the concerns and really the deep-seated fears that they have on that side. And, you know, when Donald Trump says, hey, I'll take the Super Bowl interview, and he'd take their tough questions, he'd take the hard questions. And you're right. CBS would have such a salt ball. They'd ask him about his favorite ice cream.

What's his favorite snack that he's going to have for the Super Bowl? Will Taylor Swift endorse him? Uh after the Super Bowl. Mm-hmm. but they still fear him being able to coherently give an interview that fifty million people will see.

Yeah, I want you to just so you know, I want to see if I can pivot, if I could, to the border bill, just to give people an idea of what's going to what's what's included in it. HB One visas, there are the thirty two there's going to be an increase of HBO visas, thirty two thousand more green cards, fifty thousand new work visas overall. $1.4 billion for FEMA to go through FEMA, who's going to go through. These NGOs, like Catholic charities, that are going to give all these people all these accommodations. But here's what they do, what people do like: new asylum changes.

You're really not going to get in unless you have legitimate, provable fear of your own safety. They know that they're also going to build $650 million worth of border wall, and it's got to be the Trump specifications. They know they're going to add 2,000 more CBP operators. And we know this: 15 Republican senators already against it when we got it yesterday morning, and now it's up to 19, and three Senate Democrats are against it. Where does Alan West stand?

I stand on we don't need this legislation. All you need to do is for Joe Biden to go back and reverse the 30 to 31 executive orders that he began back in January of 2021 that led to this crisis. And furthermore, when you look at the tweet that I think it's Chris Murphy, the senator from Connecticut put out, that said, don't worry, you know, leftists, the border is still open.

So that tells me everything that I need to know, that they're not serious about doing what needs to be done. Joe Biden does not need a piece of legislation to honor and do his enumerated constitutional duty and responsibility to protect our national sovereignty. He does not need a new piece of legislation.

So here's what Britt Hume said, cut 12. I think it is very notable that the Border Patrol Union is supporting it, even though the Border Patrol generally has been extremely critical of President Biden. And the head of the Border Patrol Union is supporting the bill, even though he's endorsed Donald Trump, who opposes it.

So those are some voices I think we should listen to. And the question is whether this would make things better or whether leaving things the way they are, which is a right mess, is the better option, which is what really a lot of those Republican critics, that's the option they're left with when they say to just shoot the bill down.

So live in this hell for nine more months or past this? No, I don't think you pass this because then you're going to hamstring the feet. When you have in this legislation that we're going to allow five thousand people to come in illegally, and then that's a trigger to set something off, that's a no-go. We should not allow anyone into this country illegally. And again, it is not about new legislation.

That's the false flag that Washington, D.C. always says, is when there's a problem, we have to do something new. You have laws on the books already. You have the Constitution that says exactly what the executive branch should be doing, what the legislative branch should be doing. No one is following the rule of law.

And it's very interesting that Brandon Judd was the guy who once said, we don't need any new legislation. for the border. We need the change in policies. And now he's coming out and saying, I support new legislation.

So it's kind of like, you know, we have to vote for the bill before we even know what is in the bill. I don't know where he is shifting his position on. And the new border patrol agents, all they're going to be used to do is to process more illegals coming across and not going to get back to their enforcement duties. Yeah, I mean, he gets 2,000 more agents. I think that happens, and he thinks it's a step.

And then when Trump gets in, he'll fix it. That's what he's hoping anyway.

So let's talk about what's happening in New York City. He sort of two cops got beat up by five guys. He got jumped. They got jumped.

Well, now we caught up to the guys who got out without bail. And now Alvin Bragg is putting together a case against him and trying to convene a grand jury to try to detain them. What pure politics? Yeah, it's absolutely pure politics. It's the the rage that he created.

And now we hear about some illegal immigrant that dragged a woman with his little population. Cover of the New York Post today. Cover of the New York Post today. Absolutely. Absolutely, when he's trying to take away her cell phone.

This is the problem. I mean, we don't need a new piece of legislation to say that illegal immigrants should not be here beating up our police officers or not doing exactly what they did to this woman. Deport them right now. That is law that we already have. This is not about, you know, putting them into prison here and taxpayers paying for them to have a nice warm cot and three or four square meals a day.

Deport them. And so that's the frustration that the American people have. And I don't think people trust Washington, D.C. And so, you know, until they can show that they're willing to do their job from the executive branch, legislative branch, Supreme Court, who got it wrong with that decision against Texas with the razor wire, folks want to see something happen and change. It's not about new legislation.

Yeah, I guess not. Here's what Edward Caban, he's the invisible NYPD commissioner, Cut 25. A wave of migrant crime has washed over our city. They're essentially Ghost criminals. No criminal history.

No photos, no cell phone, no social media, Sometimes we're even unclear on a name. or a date of birth. And on top of that, These operations are extremely sophisticated. They intentionally try to evade the police. What is your what is your reaction to ghosts criminals?

Well, it's absolutely correct because when you're down along the border, Brian, what ends up happening is that people dump their ID. People dump any type of, you know, anything that can talk about who they are, where they came from.

So we're allowing people in here that there are ghosts. They're like a mist. We don't know who they are, where they came from, and they're just wandering about. And on top of that, there's the group that we have apprehended. Then they're the group that's the Gotaways that are showing up in our cities.

And, you know, you have to be concerned about this because we're not protecting American citizens. And so, again, we don't need a new piece of legislation to protect American citizens. Just do it and get them off the streets. I guess so. You like what the governor is doing now, Governor Abbott?

Yeah, I mean, it's it's You know, a lot of us down here in Texas said, you know, this c should have been done two, three years ago when Joe Biden first started this, but at least Texas is standing up and they've uh died down all this talk about federalizing our National Guard because I guarantee you most of the Texas National Guard members would not allow it to happen. I hear you. Colonel Allen West, thanks so much. He's the American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director. Appreciate it, Congressman.

Oh, it was a pleasure. Thank you, Brian. All right. 1866-408-7669. We heard from one of the authors of the border bill.

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Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. You can't have Trump sitting there saying don't do anything until the election. We have a completely open border. America's acting like it's September 10th, and we better remember what September 12th felt like because it only takes one person across that border to create a 9-11 moment. No, we are not waiting until the general election to do this.

And it's irresponsible to say that Congress has to wait until a general election because Trump is worried that he's going to lose. There's a lot of reasons we got to worry Trump's going to lose, but you don't sacrifice national security to do it.

So that's Nikki Haley, very critical of President Trump for coming out against this bill. Says we should get a look at it first. She is running very aggressively against Trump still. There's just no doubt about it. She wants to get to South Carolina.

She wants to pick up the pace. She wants to close the gap. She closed the gap in New Hampshire to a degree in Iowa, but she has not moved the needle yet that I could tell in South Carolina. But she's doing is she's burning the ground that could possibly be repaired should Trump get the nomination, which seems kind of likely. And if you're betting on Nikki Haley to be a president one day, you don't want to alienate all the Trump supporters.

Even though so much can change in four years, I get it. But Some of the things she's saying, she can't go back on. And if she feels that way, and you feel she's saying exactly what you want, that's interesting because most of the Republicans are rallying around the president. And you could see it in the polls at this moment. But that's where the president came out and said, whatever you do, don't do this bill.

He made it pretty clear. Lankford joined us earlier and said, take a look at it. Mitch McConnell weighed in, cut six. And it's now time for Congress to take action on supplemental national security legislation. that finally meets those challenges head on.

I've spoken at length for months about the urgent need to invest in American hard power. stand with our allies And start showing our adversaries that the world's foremost superpower intends to start. acting like one. Again. Yeah, that's his foreign policy.

And he said, look, you told me to link it together. I linked it together. They linked it together. They put it forward. And about 19 to 20 Republican senators are out.

We know the Speaker is out. We know that at least three Democratic senators are out.

So, what are you going to do with Ukraine funding, which I think they absolutely deserve? And I believe they, of course, have accountants follow these guys, make it trackable. If you want to make it all weapons, go ahead. I'm fine with that. But they're fighting valiantly as a lethal fighting force through tremendously tough conditions.

The Russians are using winter as their offensive time, not a time to deny them of the aid they need, I don't think. They're also doing some substantial changes to their leadership, which could be disruptive. I understand that. But that's all tied together. This is all tied together.

Mike Lee, a conservative critic of McConnell, called the bill a betrayal and demanded new GOP leadership. Quote: Wouldn't it be nice if Republican leadership of the Senate cared as much about the Republicans as they do about Senator Chuck Schumer? tweeted Senator Josh Hawley. That's not good.

So at least 10 Republicans had to vote for this bill to get it through. 19 are against it to even put it up.

So they'll put it up for a procedural vote, where Senator Lankley, Lankford, will actually vote against it. Because they don't want to put a vote on it that's not going to get at least.

Some support. From the Senate, or at least 50% sports from the Senate before they go give it to the House.

Now, You've heard people from all sides of the aisle. about this. And people are comparing it to Obamacare when Paul Ryan said, we got to repeal Obamacare, we got to do it. And when they did, they came up with the skinny plan. It was not good, and it was actually squashed by Rand Paul and Senator John McCain.

Chris Maddow is a former U.S. Attorney Ambassador to Mexico. He's been to Mexico and back on this problem. Listen to what he said to Laurel last night, cut 15. The sense there is that they're suffering from this too, because this is not just a Mexican US problem.

These folks are coming from all over the world, 194 countries. They're not happy about this in Mexico, in the streets of Mexico City. It's like walking through the UN. There's people from all over the world. I think Mexico also would be delighted to have the US start to crack down on these flows of illegal migrants.

And this bill is going to do the opposite. It's going to encourage people to come. I don't know if it's going to encourage people to come. I don't I don't know where that comes from because asylum would be tougher. They are going to add Border Patrol, but it's not going to do everything.

You know, will it do enough? As Senator Lankford said, this is starting point. You guys want to debate it, make it better? Go do it. Understand you got to work with Democrats to do it, and also understand that.

If these If the Attorney General does not back you, if you don't get HHS Secretary backing what the bill says to do. In nine months, you'll have a guy that wants to take advantage of it, Donald Trump. If he doesn't, then all bets are off, period. Listen to the Brian Killmee show. Go to Briankillme.com.

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So many local shows, so many local stories are. Our national stories here, so what's happening in New York City has got everyone's attention, especially when you see the lawlessness happen with people who don't belong here, these illegal immigrants. Remember, special compensation for Venezuelans because of their country's collapse. And guess what? We got gang members here, not sending them the best.

Quick note, too: Toby Keith has passed away at the age of 62, stomach cancer, just terrible. Great friend of the show, has been here and stayed about an hour, two or three times, been on television. Great athlete, too. Great American story. He will certainly be missed.

Uh and we'll discuss that. Uh Griff Jenkins, Byron York, we'll do a sample cast on FBN. Tonight I'm gonna be on Gutfeld, so you have something to look forward to and a reason to stay up late.

So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Anyone that There's a repeated offender of a violent crime. If they are part of the migrant asylum seekers, they are found guilty. I think that the federal government should do their job of deporting that person.

Okay, good. City to city, illegals are creating havoc, leading crime waves, drunkenly fighting in our shelters, and now beating down our cops. We look at the challenges facing inner cities because of our broken border and the outright invasion. As someone once said, they are not sending us their best. Number two: $160 billion that taxpayers.

Don't have to pay to Medicare to give them these costs. Before the pandemic, there were 750, 48, or maybe roughly 750. Wow, that is Joe Biden, our president.

Now you know why he doesn't want to do any interviews. 2024, Biden, another disastrous speech on his unique reelection schedule, as former President Trump has two requests. He wants to debate now, and he wants to fill the President's slot at the Super Bowl because he won't do it. After all, if you will not talk about what he's doing, why not let somebody talk about what they would do if they had the job? Number one.

This is a very bad bill for his career, and especially in Oklahoma. I know those people, they're great people, they're not going to be happy about this. The people in Oklahoma are, you know, these are serious MAGA. These are serious people. Yup, Donald Trump weighing in on the border bill blow up and talking about Senator Langford.

From the minute it was released, emotions, rhetoric, and accusations are heard throughout Washington as a preliminary vote on the 300-plus page bill scheduled for Wednesday is out, and we dive in. To that. And just to give you an idea, I know you've heard a lot of the details. Just keep in mind: if people just say it's bad, it's going to let everybody in. If people say it's going to seal everybody off, they're both wrong.

Just dive into it. If you don't like it, you don't like it. If you want to say, I just don't want to give Joe Biden a win, just be honest about it. Don't just go say things it's not going to do. It will.

Actually, make it harder to get asylum. They'll have a shutdown mechanism. It doesn't mean you let 5,000 in. If there was a blitz of the border, like for example, I didn't know this, but yesterday there were 6,700 people came to the border. If this legislation was in place, they'd have to shut down the border.

And only when. it was twenty five percent below the five thousand threshold, would there be allowed to reopen the border? There is a mechanism in there where the President say it's a disaster, it's a pandemic, it's a flood, we got to change the rules. I really, any time there's discretion in this President, I worry. But for nine more months, we at least have a way to stop the flow and send the message.

It's going to get tougher to get in. I don't want to give President Biden a win on something he needs to be condemned for. If someone said, well, you can reverse things and give him a win on Afghanistan, I'd say, absolutely not. Take the blame because you embarrass this country. You're embarrassing us now.

But if you could fix a problem, that's why you go there. Chip Roy is not buying it. Cut 13. I called for impeachment of my orchestra in 2021, like three years ago. I've been out in front of this saying what we need to do.

This is not political for me. This is trying to get the job done for the people of Texas that I represent. Their bill doesn't do it. They're doing it as political cover to head into November. They know that's what they're doing.

And now they're trying to use it in real time. But the fact is, the American people see what's actually happening. This is not a bill that will stop it. It will not stop the flow. Children will get abused.

Power cartels will be empowered. China will be empowered. Fentanyl will continue to flow.

So that is Chip Roy. Obviously, he is fed up and he lives the border crisis every day, as is Griff Jenkins virtually. Fox News correspondent, the drug he's been on the border, him and Bill Malusion more than anyone. Really, Griff has been doing it for years. Fox News correspondent, but does everything.

He's got a new special out on Fox Nation called The Drug Lord's Hippos. We'll get to that, Griff, because it's fascinating. But your thought, you were going over the bill yesterday. You're not for it. What have you discovered about it and heard the debate about it?

You know, Brian, actually, it was great being with you yesterday, and I was holding that 370-page stack of bill. And I want to clarify: I'm not for or against it. I am the reporter, as you point out. What I was sort of passionately trying to convey, and it's difficult, particularly in TV, as you know, in such a confined short amount of time, is that while there is unanimous appreciation for Senator Lankford's torturous effort, because it's not easy. I mean, they haven't had new border immigration legislation in nearly 40 years.

The appreciation for him trying to undertake this, it didn't reflect some of the main concerns or accomplish some of the main goals of the border folks. I know from my sources, and my border officials are among the top of the leadership saying. Lankford, the Capitol Hill, no one ever reached out to us to even get our input. And that was one of the early frustrations. And it's interesting, certainly, that Brandon Judd, who is a a big uh uh uh uh You know, publicly supporting Donald Trump is taking the other side of sort of saying, Hey, you know what?

This thing's not perfect, but as a border patrol union representing 19,000 agents, I say we'll take something which is better than nothing. But when you dive into some of what I think Chip Roy was trying to get to and what is the frustrations, not just criticism, frustrations with border officials behind closed doors is that this bill, if enacted, would likely undermine the fact that, you know, the claim that this bill would end catch and release, while it does give agents more mechanisms to shut down the border with that trigger, and we can talk about the number, which is a different part of this, but it doesn't end catch and release any more than the current laws in catch and release. What you have as an administration refusing to apply and adhere to our laws. Which would not allow catch and release to begin with. And that boils down to that asylum claim made once they cross illegally, which the majority of them, if even any of them, would meet the threshold existing now.

And so there's frustration that you're going to make a tougher asylum threshold and you're going to do mass deportations. That's neither practical reality nor is it being applied now.

So if a family comes from Ecuador right now and they get there, let's say a male, male adult, five, five male adults, and they go, why are you here? And they say, well, we feel under threat. And they say, okay, prove it. And they go, well, I can't. Oh, go to another part of your country.

It's like, well, it wouldn't be safe there. Those guys would be all turned around on the spot. Is that how you read it? That that is a a Definite, accurate reading of what that bill says. And that is the additional enforcement authority that Brandon Judd says, okay, I'll take that if that's all I can have, because it's better than what I've got now.

What we've got now is instructions from high above, aka from the White House, saying, you know what, the second they cross, if they say, I'm here for asylum, good enough for me, off you go. NTA, go to a court appearance 10 years down the road, and that's the mass catch and release.

Now, whether or not that would be adhered to, and there is no way to force the administration to abide by it, it would be a mechanism that does exist that isn't there now.

However, when you look at the practical application of the cartel's ability to just unbelievably exploit our border with such high numbers, that's going to go out the door when the numbers. Swell and overwhelm the agents that aren't able to process any. And that's why the 5,000 number then starts coming into play because it doesn't matter whether there's 5,000,000 5,000 or 50,000. You've got to find a way to put these people somewhere, detain them, put them somewhere. When we had, when I was in September, in October, when I was in Eagle Pass, when we had literally 3,000 migrants literally under that bridge right there, at no point did they have more than 25 or 30 agents.

It's 100 to 1. And there's no place to put these people. I've gone out and flown our drone so people could see a place called Firefly. The most they can hold is 2,500 to 3,000. And so, you know, the arbitrary number not only is something that would, according to the border officials, be highly and quickly manipulated by the cartels, it would also, and this is a hypothetical based on past experience, according to the officials, tell me it would likely.

Be sued. The pro-migrant crowd would sue quickly because of the arbitrary number, saying everybody else other than that 5,000 wouldn't get due process.

So, therefore, we're suing, and it gets tied up in court, therefore, stopping its implementation, which then puts the Border Patrol in a worse position than they're in now. Here is what Lankford said about the he thinks misconception about 5,000. That is the challenge of trying to be able to get facts and information out like this. 5,000 number there, one's thrown around saying it lets 5,000 people in a day, which is absolutely ridiculous and is not what the bill does at all. The heart of the bill is adds more border wall, adds detention beds, adds deportation flights, adds ICE agents, adds border patrol agents.

adds fentanyl, puts sanctions on cartels for fentanyl. It changes the asylum laws, which has been a big issue for a long time, something President Trump asked for when he was president was a change in asylum law. It accelerates all of the process for our hearings, so it doesn't take 10 years to get an answer, which is the current status now. It takes days to weeks to months, and we can actually turn people around and deport them quickly. So does that does does do you think that clarity is needs to be done?

I mean, people think 5,000, we put a stop to it. He says that's the total shutdown.

Well, again, you know, I mean, after Lankford began to sort of really fight for that point, and he's done a good job of trying to stand up for it as much as possible, that's just not what the people in charge of the border think is going to be the case. And they're upset that it usurps the existing law of the first 4,999 that are coming across and would be dealt with. They say the quote that they told me, one of the border patrol leaders in the RGV sector, for example, was telling me, he said, listen, He's right. It's not technically letting the first 5,000 in.

However, it is creating a port of entry, turning the entire border into a port of entry for the first $4,999 if you're going to treat them as if they've gone through a port of entry and deal with their asylum claims. And that's the frustration, is that it undermines it. But you know, that litany, that laundry list of the things about the wall and about funding $650 million for the wall. Yeah, that I mean, it's like you know hey, mom and dad aren't gonna get you the new car for Christmas, but man, we are gonna get the new bike and the new soccer ball and the new baseball glove.

Some stuff.

Some stuff.

It's not nothing, but there is a real frustration. And look, the Border Patrol officials I talked to, and by the way, Malaysian put out yesterday. Can I ask you something about what do you know about Troy Miller? I know Troy Miller is a great agent. He's a CVP commissioner, Troy Miller.

He's a. I know him.

So I don't know if you respect him or not. He says he's got 30 police years.

So some people are great experience, but they just become political hacks. I don't know. He says the proposed legislation would provide the strongest set of tools we have had in decades to effectively manage migration and enhance our nation's border security. The primary enforcement changes in this agreement, including the border emergency authority, that would deem individuals who cross the border at times of high encounters ineligible for asylum and order them summarily removed. Changes to strengthen the credible fear interviews.

So let me just Tell the behind-the-scenes stuff, and that is, I was privileged to be asked to a private going-away party for Raul Ortiz, who was the previous Border Patrol Chief. Commissioner, CBP Commissioner Troy Miller, was there. I've known Troy Miller for many years, and he gave a toast that was really among the most eloquent and flattering. And really, you know, you could see just what great pride these men and women who have devoted their entire lives to this cause, regardless of whoever was in political office, the jobs they did and the pride they took in it. And I think I have the utmost respect for Troy Miller.

I will tell you, after getting a little bit of insight, which I just. Don't feel comfortable going too deep into, but let me just suggest to you that I don't think Troy Miller wrote that letter or had a whole lot to do with its construction. I think that letter might have been suggested or other hands helped write that letter. But the sense I'm getting, again, in my behind-the-scenes reporting, and the problem is the administration comes down on these officials so hard if they speak out of term because they're so controlled. If they would just let them talk, we would have a clearer picture.

Griff, I want you to hold off. I want to talk about the hippo special. Do you have a couple more minutes? I've got all the time in the world for Brian Kilmead, baby. All right.

So I'll just tell Dana Perino or whoever else is on the air on Fox News Channel, I'm calling the shots. Back in a moment.

So, diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hippopotamuses did not exist in Colombia until the early 1980s when the once-feared narcotrafficker, Pablo Escobar, brought them here as part of his personal zoo. When Pablo's Cobar dies, they leave the hippos here to die, but the hippos were reproducing.

There was not like three, there were like 160 hippos spread in one area of Colombia. There's a real environmental problem. They're very, very dangerous. The hippos are starting to attack people. Hippos are unpredictable.

If Lisa, when coming out here, the best strategy is just to hide. Imagine a three-ton hippo in your kitchen or near your bed. This is the story of the drug lords' hippos. Griff Jenkins, it's all part of a Fox News special, Fox Nation special, The Drug Lords Hippos. Two minutes.

Tell us why this is so unique. This is the coolest story ever, and I have the best job in television getting to go down to Medellín, Colombia. When Pablo Escobar, the famed drug lord, died in 1993, they killed him. He had a massive personal zoo: lions, zebras, tigers, and hippos. Why?

Because he's a drug lord. That's what they do. They're ostentatious.

So they round up all the animals, donate them to local South American zoos and whatnot. But the hippos, there were four, are three-ton, massive, angry beasts that can run 40 miles an hour with a short temper. They said, they'll just die off. We can't quarrel. Corral these.

They didn't. They began to multiply. And they love Colombia because of the rivers, the lush tropical land, and they have no natural predator.

Now there are thousands, and the country had to declare them last year, at the end of last year, the number one invasive species. And they're trying to deal with the crisis. People are getting hurt across the country, particularly farmers and fishermen. We got close to them. We went in with the experts, and it's really amazing footage, along with a fascinating story.

There's no way to get rid of them, right? No, and in fact, actually, just at the end of November, the Colombian government announced some plan to sterilize hippos. But, you know, catching one of those and sterilizing it is a lot easier said than done. Right. I mean, that might sum you, you'd have trouble doing that, Griff, right?

If they asked you to do that. Even I have trouble doing that. Griff Jenkins is saying on the record he cannot capture and sterilize a hippo. Ha ha ha ha. I plead guilty.

I plead guilty. It's a great special. The Drug Lords hippos on Fox Nation. Griff, good job. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. This is the result that some of us predicted. The panel was very skeptical of these arguments. What former President Trump was advancing was a sweeping an unprecedented claim of immunity. And that's it's not surprising that this panel rejected it.

The interesting thing about this opinion is that they cite the impeachment. And quote from it. as saying that the President sought to incite this effort to overturn the election. And that's going to go now forward The most practical impact of this appeal was indeed the delay that it caused. It was very important for the Trump team to try to push this.

trial back And that was Jonathan Charley announcing to the breaking news. Let me just review it with you now. A federal appeals court rejected Donald Trump's claim of absolute immunity in the January 6th case. The ruling answered a question that an appeals court had never addressed. Can a former president escape being held accountable by the criminal justice system for things that he did while in office?

So they made that decision, but the unanimous ruling by a three-judge panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals in D.C. handed Trump a significant defeat, but was unlikely to be the final word on his claims of executive immunity. Trump is expected to continue his appeal to the Supreme Court, possibly with an intermediate request to the full appeals court.

Now, his trial was supposed to start in March. It's been erased from the schedule. Byron York, I have a lot of things to talk to you about, but first on the breaking news, not that much of a surprise, correct? No, no surprise. I think Jonathan Curley was right about that.

Everybody was expecting that Trump was going to lose this. The question was, were the courts going to just allow the actual process to continue? In the normal way.

So, would Trump be basically given the rights of some other defendant and being able to? To make an argument and then have a court decide it, and then him, Trump, be able to take it to an appeals court, and then on up. And if you remember, Jack Smith. Who really, really has not concealed his goal of wanting to try and convict in jail? He doesn't want justice, he wants him in jail.

before the election. Jack Smith came up with this idea. Let's just skip this appeals court, the one that's just issued its ruling. Let's just skip this and go straight to the Supreme Court because I'm in a hurry. And that would have been a bad idea, and the Supreme Court said no.

And so they gave it to this DC U.S. Circuit Court for the District of Columbia Circuit. And it appeared in December that they were just going to rush through it. I mean, they literally scheduled briefings due on the Saturday of New Year's and the Saturday of Christmas. But then something kind of hung them up, and it took them several weeks to come up with their decision.

But that's precisely what everybody expected.

So I understand three panels: two were appointed by Democrats, one appointed by a Republican, and they came up with that ruling.

Now, so that's what the judges say. They said, quote, for the purpose of this criminal case, Trump has become citizen Trump with all the defenses of any other criminal defendant, the panel wrote. But any executive immunity that may have protected him while he served as President no longer protects him against this prosecution.

Now, what Trump's team has brought up is: okay. In the future, you're not going to like this because Mr. and Mrs. Jones lost their kid tragically to fentanyl poisoning. Over and over again, this president ignored the border.

I think I'm going to sue him. That's what basically Trump's team was saying. This is a very bad precedent. Yeah, and this this was not just suing him, of course, it was these are actual criminal charges, which is something and so the the thing is, is even though everybody was saying, well, Trump's going to lose, Trump's going to lose, This was something that had never been litigated before. It's never been tried before.

So I it was absolutely reasonable for Trump to And In my opinion, it's also reasonable for him now to go to the Supreme Court. And as you said, there's an intermediate step, which is there's a whole bunch of judges on the DC Circuit Court. And what they do is they pick a panel of three of them to handle this particular case and many others.

Well, if the three of them make a decision and the defendant doesn't like it, he says, Well, I want the whole court to hear that. Let's have the whole court consider this.

Well, Trump basically has that right too.

So it could take a while even before you get a Supreme Court case on this. Right. So another so it was supposed to be the first week of March, Super Tuesday, day before, day after, I forgot. And now that's erased from the calendar. And now this is still in hyperspace, correct?

So in terms of the next trial, it looks like Alvin Bragg looks like in May the next trial, that mysterious case that seems full of holes. Yeah, and that's kind of the kind of the joke of this whole process, which is that If you remember, um, before the Bragg indictment, which was um Oh gosh, the end of April of twenty twenty three. Um uh There were people were expecting an indictment from Jack Smith. They were expecting another indictment from Jack Smith. They were expecting one in Georgia.

But Alvin Bragg was first. The first ever to indict a uh former president. But everybody at the time said The people who want to get Trump Said, oh, you know, it's a shame this Bragg case got first because it's the weakest of the cases. It's really not very substantial. And now it forms the public's first impression of the indictment against Trump.

Yeah.

Well, now it appears that Bragg is actually going to be the first to go to trial. The weakest case, a case that a lot of legal scholars dismiss as just BS. And that's going to be the first one that Trump has tried on. Byron York, our guest, and Byron York, chief political correspondent of the Washington Examiner, Fox News contributor. You see him all over the channel.

Byron, a couple of things. The one thing that seems to have fueled Trump's support, and from 2022, it looked like he was vulnerable after the midterm election since some of his candidates did not do well. And now he just has gained steam. And when these trials look so unfair, it seems to galvanize not only his supporters, but the ones who are on the fence. Alvin Bragg, looking back at Stormy Daniels and me and paid off or not being paid off, and another Playboy model back from 2015 in an incident that happened in the 90s, seems to be the most awesome reach possible and was rejected by the previous Attorney General and only rectified after a member of the White House council went to work with New York's Alvin Bragg's department.

So all this looks pure politics. It does. And I mean, I've talked to Trump supporters at events in Iowa and New Hampshire and South Carolina, and they all. I mean, like, every single one of them. believes that he has been unfairly targeted.

They mostly they go back to the Russia investigation, which lasted years and crippled. The beginning of his presidency and on a collusion search that could not find collusion. And they believe it's just continued. And that they saw the Bragg indictment and then the three indictments that followed as all fitting into that pattern. And by the way, there was kind of a diminishing impact of each subsequent indictment.

There was a huge attention to the Bragg indictment, and the next one a little less so and then less so and then less so.

So now we're talking about Trump supporters here. They've really tuned a lot of this stuff out. Because they just believe it's more the same. I'm sure you saw that report that Robert Hurst is doing the investigation on the documents problem, assigned by Attorney General Merritt Garland, and we have heard almost no leaks. But if you, just in case people have forgotten, the former the current president, when he was vice president, seemed to think it was a good idea to leave top secret documents in his garage next to his Corvette.

Also, they found some more in his house. They went to his other house. I don't know what they found. They went to the University of Pennsylvania. They did find secret documents there, confidential documents there.

They went to the University of Delaware. Don't know what they found, but he donated all his senatorial papers there. And they went to his lawyer's office in Boston. The Biden team is worried this is the pictures of these documents kept in a haphazard place will make him look bad. What's really at play here?

Well, it will make him look bad. I don't think there's any doubt about it. And he's trying to say, Well, you know My Corvette's very valuable. Of course, I would take care of that.

So if it's in the same room as the Corvette, it's just fine. But it you know, it is going to look terrible.

Now obviously in the Trump case, There's a lot of issues of alleged obstruction of justice that Trump. you know, stonewalled the investigators and then the grand juries looking into this. But in just terms of mishandling classified documents, it appears that Biden did that quite a bit. And if you remember, The photo that the Justice Department released of a bunch of documents spread out on the carpet at Mar-a-Lago. Trumped up.

Which they had arranged. They had arranged the photo to show the, quote, evidence in the case.

Well, who knows, we may see a photo kind of like that in the Biden garage.

So yeah, it's going to be very damaging and it's going to allow Trump supporters to say, look, he did the same thing. Last minute, Byron York, quick question. Is there a danger in the Republicans walking away from this border deal? I do not think so. I think most of them believe strongly that it's a terrible deal.

And the reason they think it's a terrible deal is it basically regularizes the flow of illegal crossers into the United States as opposed to stops it. And that's always been the key fundamental difference between the parties on this issue. And which is the Biden Joe Biden and the Democratic Party wanted to accommodate. the flow of illegal crossers into the United States. And Republicans wanted to stop the flow of legal crossers into the United States.

That's the big difference inside that bill, and that's why Republicans won't pay a price. Got it. Byron, always insightful. Thanks so much. Exciting time.

It's not a boring day. Back with Stuart Varney, and then I'll have some calls on the other end. Ryan Killmee Show, so glad you're here.

Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. All right, that guy had such a long run-up to the introduction, but Stuart Varney is now going through the stock markets, doing a quick market check before he comes to me. He knows he doesn't want to check in with the market with me because I'm not much good to do some analysis and breakdown. Plus, I often charge for that.

We're going to talk about a lot was happening at the border. Had a good hour already from Griff Jenkins, who's spent more time at the border than anybody else in this company and maybe in the country.

So let's listen to Stuart Varney. Let's let him introduce him. Brian Kilmead, who will miraculously appear on the screen right there. Here he is. Hey, Brian, Speaker Johnson doubts that the Senate's border deal solves the problem.

The Border Patrol Council says it's a step in the right direction. Roll that tape, please. Right now, as we speak, there are no caps to illegal immigration. As many people that cross the border illegally, we have to take them into custody. Under this bill, there would be a cap at 5,000.

If we were to apply this bill today, we wouldn't be releasing even close to what we're releasing right now. But this bill transcends administrations. This will go beyond Biden. It will go beyond Trump. It will go beyond the next president.

Well, there you go, Brian. A majority of media is on board with this. Border Patrol on board with it. Where do you stand on the Border Deal?

Well, a couple of things. Senator Lankford joined me last hour on this show to go over through the fallacies, the truth. If you don't like the bill, I think it's fine. But just don't make up stuff. Don't make up, it's not easier to come across now.

Don't say there's amnesty, there's no amnesty, there's no even amnesty for dreamers, which I thought even Trump was looking to do. What they are is now, people are worried about the word discretion, and I don't blame them. They're worried when you come to the border right now, the only way to get in is if you prove that your life is under threat and can't go to another part of your country, which is next to impossible. If not, you turn back around.

Now you're going to get your case here, heard in six months instead of five to seven years. That is improvement, but it is not everything. It's $650 million worth of wall, which is 50 miles. It's not another 350 miles. It is not everything.

Right now, there's 19 senators, Republican senators that don't like it, three Democratic senators that don't like it.

So I asked Leinford, what do you do now? He goes, Well, this is a start. If they want to go work on it, they can work on it. Here's the problem, Stuart: Ukraine aid, there's no Ukrainians are in desperate need of military aid, and the Israelis are in desperate need of military aid. The Republicans said, We're Linking it.

So if you don't like the border bill, that means all that aid just. Hangs out is going to be offered separately, which is different hurdles. For me, I think it's a step in the right direction. I think that Lankford did it sincerely. I think Murphy had to give in on a lot.

I think it's also telling that the Border Patrol weighed in. For it. As I just talked to Byron York five minutes ago, he does not think there's a political risk of Republicans walking away from it because there's so many holes in it. But it does show some improvement. But the people don't think that Mayorkis and others are going to follow through with the tough asylum criteria.

And the next president, if it's Trump, will, but if it's not, they won't.

So, what changes? Exactly. What changes? On the same note, some of the migrants suspected of beating those New York City police officers were just found and arrested in Phoenix, Arizona. My question, Brian, is: why on earth were they released in New York in the first place?

And why is New York suddenly paneling a grand jury to look at the case in order to find some charges on these guys? Because New York, in case you're watching around the country and around the world, which people do watch Stuart Varney's show, has decided we're going criminal first. This prideful agency has been told, you better look out. Qualified immunity is gone. You're going to get sued and lose your job and maybe your house if we catch you in a bad circumstance.

And we're going to make sure the good, the bad guys that you arrest get right back out. If that video did not emerge on 42nd Street last Saturday night, nothing would have been done with these guys. It's pressure on Alvin Bragg, who's more busy trying to get Donald Trump on something that happened in the 90s than he is in 2024 trying to stop illegal immigrants from running their criminal rings. There was a president that said, I forgot his name, that they're not sending us their best. Venezuela is sending us their gangsters who are now.

On the cover of the New York Post today on mopeds, stealing bags from people and phones and dragging them through the street. We let them in. Kill meet, you've made your point, you made it very well. Brian, thank you very much indeed. Steve Hilton with me.

Okay. I feel like I was just I feel like I just got started and I think he broke up with me. No, Steve Hilton's on set. He's going to be joining us the next hour here. Insightful guy, and also tell us what's happening with the king when he comes over.

Yes, there's a king over in England. He's got some cancer. Those are some of the things that we're looking at. I just think this: if you're going to go and insult the center Lankford and call him a rhino or a lefty, that's pretty insane. Have you got to call him a bad guy that insincerely approached this?

That's also insane. You don't agree with the bill?

Well, I'd like to know. They said you should have brought the House in on this, really? I mean, do you know with negotiations in the smallest and biggest business in your company? If you have to come up with a framework of a deal, if you have a lot of people with all these different agendas, you'll never get anything done. A lot of people choose, in this case, especially, the White House had representation, the Democrats had representation, and Senator Sinema from a border state, now an independent, represented what she thought was an urgency there and actually sided with Senator Lankford on a lot of different things.

But this is what blew it up: cut one. This is a very bad bill for his career. And especially in Oklahoma, I know those people, they're great people, they're not going to be happy about this. Nobody's going to be happy about this, but the people in Oklahoma are. You know, these are serious MAGA.

These are serious people. They are not going to be happy about this, Dan, when they see this. This is crazy. This is lunacy, this bill. And you know what it is?

It's a gift. to the Democrats. I don't know if it's a gift to the Democrats. I mean, the thing is, people want to stop the border. The guy the Democrats have finally admitted.

A year ago, they weren't saying this. It's a crisis.

Now it's the worst ever.

Now we have a senator from New York, Senator Schumer, who could have used his power to help the problem here. Instead, he wants to talk about Zinn. He wants to talk about energy drinks. He wants to talk about ignoring the border until he realizes it was out of control. He does not want to handle this.

He doesn't even talk about anti-Semitism, and he's Jewish. In New York, Columbia. Overwhelming NYU. Uh A Hunter College. They're shutting down bridges, protesting Israel.

But all majorists and everything goes on hold right now. Look, if they go back and they could go make it better, but I think it's too much of a risk in election year to do it. And also, I don't think the House is even going to take it up. I do hope Ukraine gets aid, and I want Israel to get aid. Uh Ewis and LeBron, of course make him accountable.

Brian kill meets you. Don't move. From Hia Top Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, Brian Kilmead here.

Welcome to you. We come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. Oftentimes there are things that happen in New York that seem like we're the center of things, but this time we are actually the center of things, especially when it comes to illegal immigration. And if I said that two years ago, you'd say, Brian, you're crazy. It's all about the border states.

And it's all about Arizona. It's all about California. It's all about Texas and New Mexico.

Now, you don't hear much from those states because they got Democratic governors, but when it comes to Texas, It is an absolute mess. Arizona as well. And now we're in the middle of reform. Also, we got some sad news today. Toby Keith passed away at the age of sixty two.

Stomach cancer. Great friend of the show. He's been here many times and would often stay for the hour. Extremely patriotic. Great songwriter.

Great American story. With me in studio is Steve Hilton. Steve Hilton is Fox News Contributor CEO of CrowdPak, former Director of Strategy for British Prime Minister David Cameron, who's now the Foreign Minister. Steve, great to see you. I'm not the Foreign Minister.

You're not. No. But now he is. Just in case anyone's worried about it. But he is.

He is, he's back. Incredible. How do you feel about that? I think it's great for him. I think it's lovely that people can have a second wind.

In their career. It doesn't happen a lot in Britain. Exactly. That's exactly right. Following off, that's exactly the point I made about it.

You see it here all the time because, you know, we have so many things that you can do. If you want to serve, you want to do public service, you've got different things. You can run for elections different ways. If you lose an election, that's not the end. But in the UK, it has been like that.

And yet now he's out in the middle of the Middle East turmoil and what goes on.

So I do want to talk about this court case, not from a legal perspective, but what it means for the president and his prospects.

So now he had an appeals court. He asked Jack Smith in a rush to convict the president. No question. He's not going for justice. Of course.

He's going for the conviction. And he said, the president wants immunity. He says he's got immunity. He was president on January 6th. And they said, okay, let's just go to the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court goes, no. You'd go to the appeals court.

So appeals court took their time, and they now have since postponed the March date. And a moment ago, the Appeals Court and a three judge panel unanimous decision said the President does not have immunity from prosecution on what happened. But it's still not over. Look, I think that, you know, depending on where you're coming from from a partisan perspective, you're going to portray this as a loss for Trump and all the rest of it. I don't think anyone really expected this to succeed.

And it's part of the Trump strategy, the Trump legal team's strategy of delaying, which is absolutely within their right. That is the whole approach that they're taking. And it's working. It is being delayed. Because now it goes to the Supreme Court.

Exactly. And so I think that in that sense, even though you could say this particular result was a loss for Trump, I think overall he's winning the strategy of pushing these things further and further back. And so what happens is that gets pushed back, and they said that's the case that Jack Smith really wanted.

Well, what about the documents case?

Well, you've got literally a million documents. And in those documents, for in order for his team and any team to look at this, they need to get that highest clearance. And for them to do that, the. The judge who Trump appointed is saying, okay, there's certain things that have to happen. We got to get all this stuff together.

You got to get all your guys have to and your women have to get accredited. Then they got to go look at these things in private and they got to decide where you're going to go. That looks like it's delayed, maybe into the fall. Or the summer, and then if it gets that close, do you really want it to be in the... Look at the Georgia case.

What a mess. Exactly. They're all falling apart. One of the most enjoyable things politically over the last couple of weeks is watching the left react to these developments.

So if you watch MSNBC, which I often do so that our audience doesn't have to, you watch how furious they are with her, with Farney Willis, about how she's allowed this to happen. By the way, her own behaviour. Of course. And they just can barely concede. Like, what?

She was the one that was going to get Trump. And that was the one that he couldn't pardon himself, et cetera, et cetera. They're furious with her. They're furious about all these cases, Trump winning these delays and the timetable slipping. And it's just a joy to behold because, as we say all the time, this was their strategy to try and defeat Trump because they're worried that he'll win an actual election.

Which the R Astounded on many levels said he got through the primary process. He looked like he's about to defeat Nikki Haley. He's up by 50, 60%. Points now. They're dumbfounded that he's this popular.

But then the NBC poll came out on Saturday, and the NBC poll has him winning in every battleground state in dead heat in Wisconsin, only within one in Hispanics, killing him in men.

Now he's getting about 20% of the black vote. And now he's beyond the margin of error.

So the biggest legitimate attack on Trump was he'll win the primary, can't win the general. This is like five of the six major polls all have him winning.

So you're what you do for a living. That was the whole point. That was the case that the other candidates made, and it just, especially Nikki Haley. And she was bragging about how she beats Biden by more, et cetera. But actually, if you look at these numbers, they are stunning.

Trump's never been in a stronger position. And then you add into that the factor that we always looked at in previous Trump elections, and it was borne out in 2016 and in 2020, which is that the. Polls typically understate Trump support. And so even on the face of it right now, he's stronger politically than he's ever been. And you can probably assume that there's more there as well.

The final thing I'd say is look at Georgia, where Georgia, do you remember how excited the Democrats were about Georgia? It's Georgia. It's now going to, you know, it's gone from red to purple. It's going to be blue. Look at the lead in Georgia.

Is it 10 points up? Trump in Georgia, something like that.

Well, you know, they do have a point. You know, they won two Senate seats in Georgia. I would say the president had a lot to do with that when he refused in 2020, when he refused to go to campaign. Also, yeah, by the way, terrible candidates. I mean, terrible.

Kelly Leffler, do you remember? Absolute disaster as a candidate. Yeah, Doug Collins would have been much better. I don't know if you've met him. He's a fantastic congressman, lawyer, pastor, military guy.

And also, then you have Brian Kemp who won easily. And I thought success leaves clues. There's a clue there.

So that certainly helped. But I think the most fascinating thing to me is that right now at a similar time, nine months before the election, I know the pandemic was raging, but Trump was down 14 points to Joe Biden.

So think about interesting. He's been out of power four years. He's got 91 charges, four indictments, two civil trials. One is done, one is coming, and this is still. And we're waiting on the verdict on how much he's going to lose, and he's going to appeal that.

So, I mean, for you who does this for a living, you must find this endlessly fascinating. Yes, and I think, and funnily enough, there's a phrase that comes to mind every time I think about this from someone else who does it for a living, a friend of ours, we all know her very well, Kellyanne Conway. And this is a phrase that she used, I think it was pretty soon after 2016, after the election. And she's on, I don't know, CNN, something like that. And they were dumbfounded.

How on earth could this guy have won? Russia. How do you explain it? 2016. And she used this phrase that captured so much.

She said, look, because they went on about the tape and the pussy grabbing and all the things that people can describe differently, but we'll see. And he said, and she said, look, there's a difference between what offends you and what affects you. And yeah, there are a lot of people. Of people who could be offended by Donald Trump, but in the end, it's what affects them in their life. And I think that is even more true today because they can look at it side by side.

How did the Trump presidency affect them in their life? Generally, very positive. How has the Biden presidency affected them? Generally, negative. And so it's pretty clear to me why he's doing so well.

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So, communication is another area of your expertise. What's the message? How to get it out? When to do it.

So, Trump would just literally take questions every single day. He told this press secretary, I'm tired of the way people are talking to you and disrespecting you. I'll take all the questions until we got Kayleigh McInane, who was just ferocious and fantastic, there. And they, you know, Jen Take did a great job for President Biden, no questions, especially compared to what they have now.

So, Joe Biden's trailing.

Okay. When Barack Obama was trailing, when Bill Clinton was trailing, when George Bush was struggling, they could go out and make their case. Small settings, big settings, town halls. Friendly interviews, kind of whatever it took. But Joe Biden's trying to do a basement strategy.

He is. And that's not an option. He circled something that is not an option. And he had turned down a Super Bowl interview, friendly-ish interview, a couple of good questions probably from Gail King, because it's her career too. Forty million people watching?

In an election year, Why would you not take that interview? Why are you not explaining to people why the Middle East is on fire? We had eighty five to one hundred attacks over the weekend, not an address, not a word, just a one word. I think our attacks are working. Here's why.

Cut twenty six. $160 billion that taxpayers Don't have to pay to Medicare to give to this government. I make no apologize, no apologies. Roe v. Wade has taken away a woman's right to choose.

Before the pandemic, there were 750, 48, or maybe roughly 750. Billionaires in America. Right after I was elected, I went to what they call a G7 meeting. It was in the south of England. And I sat down and I said, America's back.

And Mitter Ron from Germany, I mean from France, looked at me. And said Uh so said Why why how how long you back for? It's just Minorand be dead for 20 years. Unbelievable.

Well, who's he thinking of? Is it Matt Cron? And it's the M that confused him or what the hell? I mean, but it's this is why, and you're quite right about that. The other thing I think, just remember the was it, I think it was Savannah Guthrie in the Su Super Bowl interview that he did do, maybe the first year or the second, I can't remember.

And she really pressed him, to be fair to her, on Hunter Biden. And he really yelled at her, snapped at her, very, very rude. And it was set up as a kind of friendly, I think they're in the kitchen or something, talking about the food that they're going to eat during the Super Bowl, the ice cream or whatever. But she did ask a question about Hunter. He totally lost it.

And so maybe there's an element of that as well. He's like, I just don't want to put myself out there in interviews. And as you say, that is outrageous. What an insult to the American people. Isn't this an audition?

You know, in addition, show me what the next four years are going to be like. I'll like to make my choice. This is what's outrageous about this whole thing. They all know this, right? Everyone around him, the family, all the AIDS, they all know.

And what does that really tell you? They clearly know that he's not capable of doing the job. I mean, if this is what he's like in public, when he knows he's got the cameras on him, imagine what he's like in private. They've already told us he basically just works a couple of hours a day. And if you want to get anything done, it has to be in a very narrow timeframe.

So, what it tells you is they don't care. They're so arrogant, they have such contempt for the American people that they are perfectly happy with the completely, you know, just a puppet president, which is what he is.

So, people like to sit on the outside, and I admit I'm on the outside of the Democratic Party, and they say, Well, you know what? They're just going to pull him at the last minute. No, no, no, really. He's got control, he's the president.

So, unless his family steps up, Barack Obama can be as popular and charismatic as he wants to be, unless they have something on him to extort him. He could go, no, no, I'm keeping this job. I like the house. I like the place. That is exactly where they are.

There's a fantastic book I read called What It Takes. It's about the 1988 presidential primary. It was great for me learning about, you know, it was mini biographies of six of the candidates, all in one book. I learned so much about the traditional time. And Biden was one of the Democrats.

You had Gary Hart, Mike Dukakis, can't remember, Gephardt, and Biden. And it goes into the story of when Biden, do you remember in 1988, he had to drop out of the primary because of the plagiarism? And the story of that was fascinating because. One by one, his aides and his senior advisors all realized that he just couldn't go on. More and more stories were coming out.

It wasn't just one example of plagiarism, there were multiple. And they all just got together and said, No, we've got to stop this. You can't carry on. The one person who was fighting till the end and saying, Joe, keep going, ignore these people, you got to keep going, don't drop out. Jill Biden back then.

And so it's no surprise to me. That actually he isn't getting that, to be honest, humane advice that you would hope for from a family member, and the closest of all, your wife, to say, look, this is humiliating. It's humiliating for you. It's terrible for the country. You had a great reputation.

You're throwing it away. It's just getting worse and worse every day. But I don't think it's going to happen. I do think he will be the candidate, amazingly enough. I think that they're going to stick through this.

Right. And Kamala, who evidently loses her confidence every time she watches the five. That was so great. I love that story so much. All right.

So hold on to that. I also want to get your take on the border bill and what else could be coming down the pike. You probably have very great knowledge probably of what's going on in the Middle East and the ramifications. UK took part in the bombings over the weekend, but the Houthi rebels are still going at it. What is the strategy?

No one explains it to us.

So we'll come up with it. Back in a moment.

What do you mean? Expanding your knowledge base. It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead.

I get it, but you're asking me to give you a date, and I have to court. Do you understand that you have not had a mayor like me? I get that. I have a wife, I have children, they have schedules. And plus, we still have public safety that we have to address.

We still have the unhoused that we have to address. I still have a budget that I have to address. And I'm doing all of that with a black wife raising three black children on the west side of the city of Chicago. I am going to the border as soon as possible. But I got to coordinate that with running the government and making sure that my wife and children are secure as well.

Right. So he is the only mayor. He's Mayor Brandon Johnson of Chicago. When asked, why don't you go to the border? You keep complaining about it.

I want you to see for yourself and see if you could help. He says, I have a black family.

So don't you know that? And they have schedules. I had no idea that other mayors had wide open schedules and had no obligations. Steve Hilton, my guest. Steve, where did that come from?

And what do you do with that? What do this guy? He's a joke. This man's a joke. He's the creature of the teacher unions.

That's how he got where he is. This kind of ridiculous sense of self-victimization, you know, it's just embarrassing. I mean, it's laughable. But sadly, it's typical now. From some of these elected officials who come from that hardcore kind of activist community who literally can't run anything.

All they can do is spout the propaganda. Nobody wants to hear about it. The work claptrap, just over and over. It's sick of it because, actually, going back to our earlier conversation, people are just interested in results. Even now, in these democratic cities, they're looking at the outcomes and saying, no, we just want something done.

We don't care about this stuff anymore. Right, it's amazing, too. What's your reaction to this so-called moped gang grabbing bags and phones from Venezuela organized in the Bronx? You saw that woman, 68 years old, being slammed into a metal pole? It's such I mean obviously just on a human level disgusting.

And uh but it's such an insult to every American. That's what's they don't even belong here. It's so appalling. Like we've you know, you got enough crime, right?

So we're importing it now. It is just an insult to everybody. And the other and and just to you know. That's why I think the big missing point in the discussion around the border bill is. You know, okay, fine, we can talk about what's in it, but why are we only getting it now?

Right? What have they been doing for three years? when this crisis has been just getting worse and worse and worse, nothing. They've been doing nothing.

So it's all very well to say, look, we've negotiated this big bill. For three years, they did nothing about this.

Well, they said there wasn't even a crisis. The only thing that got their attention is when the Republicans said no borderline. And you're Ukrainian, right? What? No, you're Hungarian.

Hungarian.

Sorry, I apologize. They're all the same. Right. I didn't say that, but that's what I was that's what the mayor of Chicago said. Exactly.

That's good. Can I just make a little point here?

So it is actually fair to say that most of the in in one sense, they're all the same in Eastern because they're Slavic people.

So most of those countries Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Czech Republic, X are Slavic. Hungarians. race ethnically very different. Majar. Very different.

Good, good word. Do you believe that we should find a way to finance the Ukrainian military? Yeah, I think that you could I've been very strong on that. I think that Europe needs to do more. They are doing more as a result of what they perceive.

Yeah, so that's good, and as it should be. But I've always had a very strong view that we cannot allow dictators to march into other places. Are you surprised there's pushback from Republicans on this? No, because it's been so ridic. Here's the thing.

The Ukraine issue has been so politicised by uh Democrats and the media, and I think it's just been sort of thrown in the American people's face. All the kind of you know, to me, it's when you see a US Senator, you know, standing there, you know, wearing a Ukraine pin, There's something off about that. Of course, show your support in different ways, but it's a message to the American people that we don't care about you. And I think that that's been going on for too long. And so there's a natural reaction from the public to say, hang on a second.

Okay, fine. We want America to be good. Right, good.

So let's do the record show. You have a California. Yes, because I am Californian. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

I know, we know, we have a lot more to do. Not everyone's feeling the benefits of our investments and progress yet. But inflation is now lower in America than any other major economy in the world. In the world. And in recent weeks, we're seeing real evidence that the American consumers are feeling real confidence in the economy that we're beginning to build.

All right, there you go. The inspirational Joe Biden, who has an interesting, he's trying to run a basement campaign. He's trying to do it in a time in which there is no option. That's not an option, Joe. He's not doing an interview with the Super Bowl.

He is not doing any sit-downs with anyone. He's not doing a press conference. And it's not like there's nothing going on. Jimmy Phaler knows all this. He spent years in politics.

That's where he cut his teeth. Fox News Saturday. He's the host of Fox News Saturday Night with Jimmy Phaler. And he's also, Fox Across America is going to get started shortly. And his book is now out: A Guide to Here We Go: The Cancel Culture Dictionary, an A to Z Guide to Winning the War on Fun.

Jimmy, welcome back. Boom, great to see you. Right. It is fascinating to think. That most people campaign harder to be president of the PTA.

Biden does to be president. It's amazing. President of the Fantasy Football League, at least, involves you getting on a group chat and insulting your friends once in a while. Right. This guy's doing nothing.

Van Jones says he's better off not speaking.

Well, of course. The best surrogate for him is not being one, which is fascinating. But Biden has turned the presidency to people who watch the Sopranos.

Okay. He's turned the presidency into a no-show construction job. Right. It's like he's on the books, but you don't actually have to show up to the job site. Yet he wants four more years.

Yeah, of course.

Well, wouldn't you with these hours? These are good hours. Who was John Gotti? Was he a plumber? Uh, in theory?

Right. In theory. I think he was a plumber. I I don't know what he put on his tax returns until W nine, but I have a feeling he had his hand in a few different pots. But it's fascinating to think where we are because we're ten months out.

We're 10 months out from election day, and we're all watching the starting pitcher is already out of innings. You know what I mean? You know, in baseball, if you have starting pitchers done in the first inning, you're like, wow, we're going to annihilate the bullpen.

Well, it's actually, I think it's nine months.

Okay. I think he opened up, Jimmy, with Hitler. Yeah, he did. That's what I mean. President Trump is Hitler.

And they say in comedy, you don't open with your closer. Right. Okay. Hitler has to be your closer. By May, nobody else.

So where are we going with it? Yes. You can't play Hitler every day. And you've said that. That's been your philosophy.

Yeah.

I mean, there's only so much Hitler they could take in terms of the parlance.

So I'm fascinated by the spectacle, but I'm still holding out hope. That he comes off the ticket. I don't think he stays on. Why do you think he does? Why do you think that Hope?

What do you mean? Well, I have a bet. Are you worried about the country? No, I have a very expensive bet with a TV host here at Fox. I don't want to out him.

His name rhymes with Sean Hannity. And if I were to beat the guy whose name rhymes with Sean Hannity, he would owe me a lot of money.

So he bet me on the air on his show, a proportional bet because he obviously, you don't know this, but Hannity makes more than me. A lot of people are shocked when they hear that. I hear both sides. No, yeah, this goes both ways, but I'm telling you in confidence, this is just between us: Hannity makes a few more bucks than me. But anyway, if Biden comes off the ticket, I win the bet.

But getting past that for the good of the country. This can't be the face of what we do. Meaning, I'm not speaking to you as a conservative, speaking to you as an American, okay? We can't have an American president who goes to the United Nations and has his speech translated to English.

Okay. You gotta translate it to 38 other languages, fine, but English is not supposed to be one of them. And whether he says that the whole count the world is happy he's there. Yeah.

Oh, stop it. I mean, there's one aspect of him that they do enjoy. He is in a lot of ways the weak parent. You know, mom said no, but dad said yes, or dad said no, but mom said yes. The world looks at Biden as the weak parent.

You get away with stuff. Is there another president, even to his credit, Barack Obama? You could not attack our military 166 times under Barack Obama and not get some pushback. Right. I know he didn't keep his promise about red lines on the sand and all of that, but he still was also at the same time deporting people and doing things that stood in some level for America.

Well, the thing is, the reason why people thought he can come back to George Bush would be able to come back and that Bill Clinton was able to come back even from impeachment is because they could talk. Yeah.

And they could outwork you. And, you know, if they can, they'll do four or five appearances a day. He can't do it. That's what I find so fascinating. Steve Hilden, who's your idol, was here earlier.

He actually read a book about the elections of 1988 and said something to our audience fascinating. He said that everybody was pushing Joe Biden to get out because he was caught plagiarizing. Yep, I remember this. And he held out to the last minute because of Jill. Jill was pushing him not to get out.

Doesn't that make sense? Yes. Instead of Jill being the first to say, get out, we don't need this. Yep. Like, for example, Melania, you know that she, you know, Michelle Obama never loved the White House.

Nope. You would be like, listen, let's get out. We don't need this. Yeah, let's get out of here. Here.

We did it. And you know, to that point. I think that's what we're watching play out here. Is you know, you talk about being drunk on power. People in the Biden administration have a lot more say, whether it's Jill or any bureaucrat, than you would under a traditional able-minded president.

Right. You know, we've all seen the clip. Of him talking about Mitterrand.

Okay. That's not new. And it's a difference between a slip of the tongue and a 30-year slip of the mind.

Okay. And the last thing I need is Biden getting on TV and promising that if things don't wrap up in Ukraine, he's going to personally kill Gorbachev. And then correct himself and go, I meant Yeltsin. Right. Remember that throwaway line that he gave after that speech in the Ukraine?

It was actually in Poland. And he said, he's got to go. Excuse me? Did you just go for a Z-Ch in Russia? I mean, we were pretty certain to not do that really since the Bolsheviks took over because he won a world war.

Yep. But this is the problem we have. But back to him not doing the Super Bowl interview. The reason it matters to people listening is, oh, what's the big deal? Super Bowl interview.

Two-thirds of the answers are guacamole. But there is a reason.

Okay. It's because we have a president they won't let out in the field. His press conferences, as you know, are plays. He has a list of reporters. He has a list of answers.

That's not a press conference. Conference, that's political theater.

So, did you ever? A lot of people are shocked that Donald Trump's at the point now he's beyond the margin of error. He's winning in every battleground state except for he's taught in Wisconsin. Here's Glenn Greenwald, a guy that's known to be on the left, but a very logical, smart guy, cut 30. It's kind of amazing that the parts of the corporate media that are desperate for Biden to win, which is pretty much every part of the corporate media other than the network that we're currently speaking on, is all but explicit that their real strategy is to ensure that Donald Trump is convicted before the election.

That's why they're freaking out because they know that's really one of their only chances. And if you look at polling data, including their own, the new poll that came out from NBC. What they're finding is that even voting groups that have long been loyal to the Democratic Party, like young voters and Latinos, Trump is now tied with Biden and is consolidating his lead with the Republican voters. Imagine what it says about the corporate media: that they spent seven years telling people Trump is a white nationalist, a fascist, a criminal, an insurrectionist, a dictator, and the American people are just tuning them out, and Trump's lead is increasing. It says so much about how the legitimacy of these media outlets has collapsed.

Totally. I mean, it's the same thing to be said for indictments. There was a time when you got indicted and stepped down that night. You vowed to spend more time with your family and then immediately flew off to an all-inclusive with your side check. Politics, we know how this works.

Okay, but there was a time when one indictment was the end of the game. We got 91 of them. And it's a sadder commentary on the state of our justice system than it is on Trump, under Trump.

So to think about this, what must they be thinking when they see Fannie Willis having a full-blown affair with a guy that's in a controversial divorce that got a position? He didn't deserve to get a payroll. That was more than the others, knowing this could be all exposed. This is her judgment. At which time he gets it.

You know what his specialty was? It was car accidents. Oh, I thought it was foot massage. Right, it could be.

So they end up flying around with the money that she gave him. They had an ambulance.

So that's the person that decided to go RICO with this president of the United States.

Well, this is the scam of the moment we're living in. It started the second he entered politics. You, as someone who knows Trump, know this better than anybody. He has always been a. Part of the fabric of polite society.

Meaning, he had a show on NBC for fifteen years. That's hardly a fringe guy in a shed.

Okay, the Clintons going to his wedding and all of the relationships he had across the political aisle. When he came down the escalator, they manufactured a hysteria. And they tried to pretend this was something we didn't know and had never seen before when everybody telling you that had spent the last thirty years hanging out with the guy. But that manufactured hysteria has allowed them, at least in their heads, to justify a lot of unprecedented attempts to get rid of the guy. But what you're realizing now in the polling is that people see through the scam, as they just said earlier.

Calling him racist doesn't work in the black community. And it's the best clip of the week, the one I saw in MSNBC over the weekend when they're in the black barbershop. And the guy's like, all right, you know, the way my friends look at it, they had money under Trump, they don't under Biden. That's it.

Okay. You calling somebody racist if the money's better, and you call me whatever you want, okay? He's cut twenty nine. A lot of my friends are obviously my age, so we're a little younger. We've only voted once, you know, for actually for a president.

And Trump is kinda all we know. And they're kinda Trump and Biden. They're like, well, we were broke with Biden. We weren't with Trump. And that's kind of the only thing that I'm hearing over and over again, over and over again is that, well, Trump, we had money.

Now, do you bring this up in your book? Oh, yeah. Cancel Culture Dictionary. A to Z guide to winning the war on fun. The whole premise of the book is that we're fighting all the wrong battles.

It's like if you look at the borders overrun, okay, inflation went through the roof. Nobody can read anymore at a grade school level. We're like, I've got it. We'll fix the halftime show at the Washington Redskins game. You know, I've got Aunt Jemima.

We'll screw her family out of royalties they've been receiving for 130 years. I've had it with the pancakes.

Okay, and that's the point. We're living in a country where 70% of the people think we're going in the wrong direction. You don't need to come after comedians because the world is on fire. We're just roasting the marshmallows. Aren't you doing a signing on Long Island?

I am. Friday night, I am in Bay Shore. At the Barnes and Noble, right there in the Gardner Manor Mall. And then Saturday, I always like to give the little people a bounce.

So I'm having Dana Perino out Saturday to the Little Point bookshop in New Jersey. The only thing little about Perino is she's shorter than you, but she is a monster. Oh, in stature. Yeah, you have a real problem. If she's upset, like she is.

If there was a pulp fiction about this movie, she's the wolf. Like the wolf's going to show up. You're going to have a problem. You know, I love that Little Point bookshop because, you know, in the first they did it, you just signed on a podium. But now they have Rangel Mini living room.

Yeah.

These people are right there. Also, if you insult them, they'll take a swing at you.

Well, it's Jersey, and you like that. They're fiery. Their fire is the original cancel culture. You say something wrong, you wind up in somebody's trunk on the way to a landfill. I like the stakes of it all.

Or Atlantic City. There you go. Either one. I'll take the landfill.

So this is good because WABC listeners will have a chance, NWLAR listeners will have a chance to go follow you if they're in Bay Shore. We would love that.

Now, are you personable? I know you're personal with me, but are you personal with other people? Can I tell you something? When I do a stand-up event and people will attest to this, I meet everybody there. First of all, I'm so humbled by the idea that anybody would want anything to do with me, considering the things I wear on TV.

But I mean everybody.

So yeah, if you're coming to a book launch, I talk to you until you're sick of me. You know, it's the other way around. But, I mean, that's the fox hook. That's what you do. That's why you're on the road.

It's like, we win because we're real people. Could you imagine, for real, as a joke, going to an MSNBC? First of all, MSNBC wouldn't have an event. But could you imagine the millionth of a second between when that camera flashes and they literally shove you away from them? Oh, my goodness.

Yeah, we're regular people. They hire regular people here. You know, the first one I saw that superstar that did that was Sebastian. Really?

So I'm at Governor's, and everyone's like, you got to see this comedian, Sebastian Manascalco. And I go, all right.

So he was really good.

So he leaves. He runs from backstage right to the door and he greets everyone leaving. Yeah, he's friendly. I have a funny Sebastian story. If you'd humor 30 seconds, are we up against Heartbreak?

I'm sorry. How many bucks? How many people have we paid Jimmy for it? Do you know, Eric? Ah.

Okay. Let's take a break. We have a Sebastian story from Jimmy, who is going to be seen on Long Island this weekend. Where do we find out the exact time and everything? Do you have a website?

Oh, yeah. Go to FoxAcrossAmerica.com.

Okay. Fox News Facebook page. It's there. And, of course, the Cancer Culture Dictionary, an A to Z guide to Winning the War on Fun. And the Fox News Saturday Night with Jimmy Phalo, which follows me at 10 o'clock on Saturday nights.

Jimmy, stay here. Back in a moment.

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Hey, Jimmy Phale, when we first left, and of course he's got some big signings over this weekend on Long Island. He's got Cancel Culture Dictionary, A to Z, Guide to Winning the War on Fun. You also, I haven't mentioned yet, not only the book, but you have a Fox special, too. Oh, the Fox Nation special. On the book itself.

Listen, the book is better than the movie. And what I mean by that is the movie doesn't pay royalties. Buy the book, FoxNewsBooks.com. I'm kidding. They're both great.

Okay. And. The truth is, my whole book, okay, is my experience as a comic watching how cancel culture didn't ruin the celebrities. It made life harder for us. Meaning, like when Roseanne got canceled, Roseanne is sitting on 80 sitcom money.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say she might have blown a few bucks on pills and weed based on her Twitter feed. I don't know that, to be certain. But for the most part, she's going to be fine.

Okay, but when the rules of speech change on the rich, they change on the regular people. And we're the ones with a lot more to lose.

So all I'm trying to do is reset the magnet in the compass. Instead of going after comedians and musicians and actors and sources of escapism, I'm saying, you know, we have real issues to police. Let's police the streets harder than the comedy clubs. That's what I'm saying.

Now, the Sebastian story. Oh. This is funny.

Okay, you might appreciate this.

Okay, so I was opening for Sebastian at our mutual friend Chris Mazzilli's Gotham Comedy Club. As you know, Sebastian is murdering, he's beating people within an inch of their lives. But if you are a local New York City comic who works a home club, you have your stock set, which in front of the right crowd is the best set in the history of comedy. You don't deserve the laughs you're getting. You just know your audience so well that you can't physically miss with a single joke.

So I'm being upfront about this. I did better than I deserve to do with the level of proficiency I have. But when the show is over, okay. A group of girls come running down the stairs as I am talking to Sebastian's beautiful, lovely wife. And they go, oh my God, you're so much funnier than Sebastian.

You should have had hell on him because they just like my stupid, smutty stuff. He's clearly better.

Okay. But I say to her, oh, this is a funny inside baseball move. They don't realize you're his wife. They thought I was hitting on you. They were trying to help me out by saying I was better.

And she's like, wow, comics really do that? I'm like, all the time. Because I don't want to not get booked to open for him at this point.

So she dies laughing. Two dudes walk out of the bed of the bathroom and like, bro, way funnier than Sebastian, bro. I'm like, oh, so I'm never opening for him again. And it's not why I didn't, because he was just on the road. But he was a good guy to work with.

And a real guy in that, like we were talking about us, we'll talk to you. Like, you even talked to my family at airports, which you have. You don't know them that. We never talked about that. You don't know them that.

They stalked you at an airport. Right. But then we hung out. And then we bought books and magazines together.

So it was fantastic. Ah! But what was I going to say? No, we did actually. We saw it in the bookstore.

They followed us out. I think it was Jacksonville. Yep, that's where it was.

So, Jimmy, when's next time you're doing a show?

So, I go back out on the road. It starts March 1st. I've got 40 cities I got to hit between March and July. If you want tickets, FoxAcrossAmerica.com. You can get tickets to anything I'm doing.

The tour starts in Idaho Falls. It's called the Everybody Calm Down Tour. And it makes its way to Biloxi, Mississippi on the last gig of the day, the gig of the tour.

Now, I'm going to be April 27th in Henderson, Nevada. You played there before at the Green Valley Ranch. You're going back, aren't you? I'm going there July 5th. All right.

I love the Green Valley Ranch. Don't tell them to wait for you. I mean, do you think the people in Nevada will understand me? You're going to crush. I've got to tell you something.

They came and watched me and Kennedy Koreal, the Laughs and Liberty tour. They were the best. You cannot offend a Nevada conversation. I tried. Believe me, I tried everything.

These are great people. No, you love them. And the thing is, they come visit. They're always on vacation or something, right? No one really loves.

Lives there? Whoa, whoa, no. This is what you're going to notice.

So at Green Valley, a lot of them are more local. You're getting the locals. They're not on the strip. It's slightly off the strip, but it's gorgeous. It makes me think anyway that my career was going a lot better than it was the first time I was there.

So, BrianKilme.com for that.

So, Jimmy, one more time to people see you in person this weekend? If you want to see me Friday night on Strong Island, Long Island, I'll be in Bay Shore at the Barnes and Noble and the Gardner Manor Mall. Hey, girl. And then Saturday, the Little Point Bookshop with Dana Perino. All right.

Down in New Jersey. Let's go.

Now, listen, we have stations all around there, but especially WABC listeners, go there. Jimmy will put you in line, take a picture with you.

Okay, well, it's going to happen. We're signing books, butts, whatever you're into. It's totally unnecessary. You've got a show coming up. Listen to this show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music with your Prime Membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

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