Texas standoff: Biden warns Abbott to back down

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Gilmead. Wow, can you believe we're closing out an extremely busy week? First primary week, a lot of things going on around the world and a big standoff within our states. Hi, everyone.

Brian Kilmead here. Admiral Stravitas is standing by. Bottom of the hour, we're going to talk to Mike Rogers. He was on the House Select Intelligence Committee. You know, he served in the FBI, the military, and he wants to be the next senator for Michigan.

It's a perfect time to talk to him. A lot is going on today. We are following the latest, and this is one thing you got to look out. Donald Trump today was supposed to be in Arizona. He's got a court case, and that's when I'm sure Nikki Hilly is going to be talking about on our channel shortly.

We'll bring you some of the highlights of that interview.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. But when it comes to social media. It follows us everywhere with addictive little pings and algorithms that keep us constantly turning back to it. These dopamine hits are so addictive, it's like a digital fentanyl.

Social media has a ban in play in Florida for kids under 16. And this is something also the mayor of New York City is urging. Is this a trend? Is this a trend you can back? It is even possible to enforce.

Let's discuss it. Number two. Since the New Hampshire primary, where she plays second, she has raised more than $2.5 million. Her super PAC, I'm told, is also raking in cash, but it's going to be tough for her to ramp up a national campaign very quickly. Yup, the GOP fight goes on as Haley stays in with enough donor dollars flowing to fight on against Donald Trump.

This, as the Reuters poll shows, is expanding his lead over President Biden. Number We stand with Governor Abbott. And Texas in reminding the federal government, under our Constitution, states are still sovereign. Texas has every right to stand its ground. Governor Abbott has done the exact right thing, and I'll drive him more razor wire from South Dakota if I have to.

A Texas standoff triggering a national divide as 25 states back Texas in their effort to defend their own border. This should not even be a question, but the President of the United States is not for that. He's fighting to, I guess, take it down and open up the border. He's warning Governor Abbott to stand down because he will not. It's crazy what's happening in this country.

These are all fixable issues. These are all basic, but people are too dug in and too thick-headed to actually solve problems. Admiral James Dervides does that for a living. He's done his entire career solving problems and fighting for America, the 16th Supreme Allied Commander of NATO. His upcoming book is called 2054: a Novel.

Admiral, welcome back. Good to be with you, Brian. It is a very busy week. Yeah, I mean, let's talk about what's happening overseas first. How do you feel or put into context why we, and that's not been denied, would give Iran a heads up on what would-be a terror attack after the Salamanis marking four years since his death.

Why would we give Iran a heads up on that while they have their militias targeting us regularly? Yeah, I don't know a good answer to that question. Certainly, there's a kind of a human answer to that question, but I would argue we are in a state of not declared war, but clearly a state of real conflict with Iran. And as you correctly point out, they're attacking our warships at sea. They're attacking our troops ashore.

It does not compute for me that we would reach out with a warning to Iran. It was told to me that more proof that it did happen. Number one, they did not deny it. The administration didn't. Number two is Salomani's family was not there.

Neither were some higher-up officers.

So the carnage took place. Eighty people died. Many were wounded, but none of which were esteemed officers, apparently. I don't think that really changes your calculus. And where do we go from here if we're going to be cooperating with intelligence provided to the Iranians?

It just Makes no sense to me given the state of dismal relations between the two countries. Yeah, I think my point was how little they care about the so-called average people to put them in harm's way rather than just call it off if you know that was going to happen. Yes, I think that's worth pointing out that even though they received it from us, they didn't act on it in any way as far as we could tell. And as a result, it is a human tragedy that could have been averted by the Iranians. But back to paragraph one, I'm not sure we ought to be in the business of providing warnings to Iran.

They're not only not providing similar warnings to us when Houthi pirates launch missiles at our warships or their proxies attack our troops in Syria and Iraq, not only are they not providing such warnings, but they're actively conducting those attacks. Uh There's talks going on right now. We had to get our troops out of Iraq. President Obama famously pulled our troops out, and then they begged for him back as ISIS almost was threatening Baghdad. And we were tangentially, to a degree, cooperating with Iran in ousting ISIS from Iraq.

So we have about two thousand five hundred troops there. Stop me if you these numbers don't add up with you. And now we're to now it looks like the Iraqi government wants us out of there, and we're talking to them about that. Where would you stand on this? We should do everything we can to maintain those troops in Iraq.

This is a tiny number of troops. Just to put it in perspective, at one time, Brian, we had one hundred seventy five thousand troops in Iraq.

So now we're down to two thousand five hundred. We've also got five hundred across the border in Syria. They are doing excellent work knocking down the remnants of the Islamic State. What's Playing inside Iraq, and this gets into domestic politics inside Iraq. It is In some parts of Iraq, not in the north with the Kurds, and really not so much with the Sunnis in central Iraq, but in the south, the Shia populations, which kind of lean toward Iran U.S.

presence unpopular.

So the Iraqi government, I think what they're going to do is have these ongoing talks. They'll go on for a long time. End of the day, the Iraqis value our security cooperation. We ought to keep our troops there. We're not going to impose them on a sovereign country.

I think we can sort this one out with the Iraqi government. We should do so. It's in our interest to be there. We're just giving the whole country to Iran if we do it. And a lot of times, don't you feel as though the Iraqis are saying that in lip service, knowing it's to their advantage to have us there because they do not want to be dominated by Iran?

Absolutely. I think that's good analysis. And it gets into the complexity of politics in Iraq, which are bifurcated. We think we have divisions here. In the north, between the Kurds, in the center, between the Sunni Arabs, in the South, the Shia, a lot of Persian influence, exactly as you say.

What we want is to pull that country toward the West, massive oil producer Geopolitically critical, geographically, absolutely in the center of action. We want to be there. I think we can do that if we handle the government and the military-to-military relations properly. All right, so we're looking at where we are in that region. We could just tell you within the last 45 minutes, it's been confirmed that the Houthi rebels shot a missile at one of our ships and we knocked it out of the sky.

So we are talking to China, believe it or not, I'm sure you do believe it, about how we de-escalate and free up the Red Sea. China evidently is urging Iran to talk to the Houthis about doing that because 15% of the world's commerce goes through there, so it might be affecting them. Your thoughts? This is a good example of where the US and China could work together. And so what we ought to be doing with China, which has extremely high interest in keeping that commerce flowing because their economy is sputtering and stumbling because of three years of bad COVID policy.

They just haven't turned the corner yet coming out of the pandemic, believe it or not.

So they want to keep this flowing. We want to keep it flowing. This is one where the two superpowers could work together. And I think that we need to do it eyes wide open. China wants to do this in order to keep commerce flowing.

The minute that commerce is settled out again, China will go back to belt and road strategy, putting pressure on a lot of countries. But in this tactical moment, Brian, it makes sense to work with China to try and put pressure on Iran to put pressure on the Houthis. All right, I want to get your take on Israel's IDF's quest to eradicate Hamas from Gaza. Here's what Jack Keene said: Cut 35. In the central part, the Israelis seem to be surrounding the major city there and Hamas's locations.

They haven't really begun the clearing. Down in the south, where all the people are focused, and I think the leaders are there as well as the hostages, I'm not convinced the Israelis have made up their mind whether they're going to go into Rafah or not, given the civilian population there. They have to be reassessing their strategy, Bill, in terms of is it still realistic to be able to destroy Hamas, given the subterranean challenges they have, given the presence of the hostages that are still likely in the hands of Of Hamas. Do you think they're reassessing? Do you think they've made a decision on going into the South?

I think they are reassessing. I think General Jack has it right. You can kind of feel, I don't want to say indecision, what I feel is competing. views of next military moves. If I were advising the Israeli military, I would say encircle conyunis.

This is the absolute beating heart of Hamas, and then gradually work your way in using special forces. You and I have talked about this. The center of gravity here, got it on the hostages, want to rescue the hostages. The military center of gravity is that tunnel complex. That has to be destroyed.

And we have just learned, Brian. Under Gaza, which is only twenty miles by five miles, there are four hundred miles.

Okay. Underground. Underground passages. This is a citadel, a city beneath. This complex area.

So the Israelis have to take that apart. I think what they're doing is finalizing the plans for doing exactly that. I think this will go on for some number of months. But I'll conclude here: the high level of casualties you saw up north and in the first month or so, I think that phase is over. This is going to become pretty surgical.

Admiral, you know, it's almost insulting to hear we should back a two-state solution when the Palestinians don't want a two-state solution. If you want to make Israeli the bad guy, go ahead and do it. But just be factual about it. Israel isn't the only one who doesn't want a two-state solution. Palestinians want nothing to do with that.

At the end of the day, the Palestinians have to figure out what they want and where it's going to occur. And the idea that we could simply blindly follow a mantra of two-state solution without understanding what that looks like just doesn't make any sense. The politician to watch, in my view, in Israel is actually not Bibi Netanyahu. I think his days are numbered. It's Benny Gantz, the former IDF general, the head of the Israeli military, someone I worked with every day over my four years as Supreme Allied Commander at NATO.

He is going down the path of there has to be some kind of Palestinian entity, but we don't know the shape of if it's going to be a state, a political act, a particular area. I think that has to be worked out. We don't need blind mantras at this point. Lastly, two things real quick. Vladimir Putin evidently is using a back channel, according to a report, to say, I'm interested in talking about peace.

And roughly the deal is, I keep what I got, and I no longer block Ukraine's entrance into NATO. Number one, it could be a head fake to help divide our allies. And number two, if he is sincere, what do you think about that deal? I think that deal, first of all, it's up to the Ukrainians. On the other hand, to me, that deal makes military sense.

I'll let others decide the politics of it. But militarily, going to be extremely hard to dislodge Russia from the fifteen percent of Ukraine that they hold. Point two, the fifteen percent that Russia holds is functionally destroyed. It's going to have to be completely rebuilt. Let Putin hang on to that and rebuild it.

That's what I'd say to the Ukrainians. Point three, final point. It has got to come with membership in NATO. I think if I were Ukrainian, I would take that deal. Think it's a head fake?

I don't. I think Putin recognizes that he overstretched badly. He'll never conquer the entire country. He wants to consolidate and go back and rebuild. And we may have to play this movie again in five years or ten years, but Putin's seventy one years old.

He's not going to last forever. I'd say For the Ukrainians, if you can get the deal to come into NATO, that's the gold standard.

Now you're inside the alliance.

Now you're safe. Reconstruction begins of Ukraine. And final thought, we'll use Russian frozen assets To rebuild Ukraine. I heard we were thinking about doing that real quick. The Taiwan Strait, we had one of our ships go through there.

Yep. And the Chinese says that was provocative. Your thoughts? That's international waters. It's no more provocative than a Chinese destroyer sailing in the Atlantic Ocean.

That's international waters. Our destroyer did the right thing. And believe me, our destroyers, as we're observing off the coast of Africa, can take care of themselves. I just got word that I just got three credits onto my college manuscript after this eight minutes. I just got marched through the world of conflict with Admiral Stravitas.

Could you sign off on that? Absolutely. Send me that form. You get an A. By the way, By the way, this week I read your latest book and I loved it, the one about Booker T.

Washington and Theodore Roosevelt. Absolutely fabulous and a good message. For today's America.

Well done, you, Brian. I appreciate that.

Well, I look forward to 2054, a novel. That is coming out when? March twelfth, and it's about artificial intelligence, geopolitics. Fet in the year 2054. And that's the time when I get a year, yeah.

And that's the time when I get to put you on Fox. That's your mulligan, right? You get to leave that other network and come on our show. Let's just say it's a long time till 2054. No, not 2054.

I'm saying when you have a book out, you could do five. Oh, absolutely. I'll be on. I'm happy to come and sit on the white couch with you. You got it.

Admiral, thanks so much. Admiral James, Servitis, have a great weekend. When we come back, I've got a few minutes for your calls: 1-866-408-7669. And then I go over to Mike Rogers. A lot of things going on in Michigan.

You heard our interview yesterday with Tudor Dixon. He wants to be the senator from there. A lot going on too with this conflict with Texas. I never in my lifetime have seen anything like this. Our federal government is going to war with the state, so to speak.

Right now, it's in the courts. Let's hope it stays there. Last time we had something like this, Andrew Jackson had to go spank South Carolina. You listen to the Brian Killmeat show. Expanding your knowledge base.

It's the Brian Kill Meat Show. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. All right, welcome back, everybody. I went really long with how much diabetes, but man, it's not easy solving the world's problems.

One thing he said that was pretty significant: the first thing I went to break, Eric said to me, Do you hear what he said? And yeah, when he said, if that deal is offered, You get into uh, I will not stand in the way of Ukraine getting into NATO. Let me keep what I've taken so far, which is 15% of the country. I would take it. That's interesting.

This is a guy that knows war, knows significance. But I do say this: if you I'm reading some of the comments come out of Norway, Sweden, and Finland. These are very well funded, solid economies with solid militaries. They don't need a lot. They are such assets now that they're in NATO.

They think an attack's coming within three years. Lithuania feels differently, but if NATO members feel something's coming. Don't let the political pundits or politicians tell you what they think is going to come. I would go to our allies in the region and say this we're concerned about.

Now, if they don't do anything, But I think they're ready to write checks to us to give them the weapons to defend themselves because they know in a fight they would kick Russia's ass, especially if we hit them from every side. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. What I'm worried about is his ability to win over Haley voters once this thing is over. You know, when he says anyone who makes a contribution to Bird Brain will be permanently banned from MAGA, You know, does that apply to Haley voters too?

You know, it shows that he hasn't learned any lessons from why he lost in 2020. He lost in 2020 because he lost 43,000 swing voters in three states. And about 43,000 swing voters will decide this election next November. He's got to win them over. They're not MAGA.

They are either Democrats or center-right Republicans who are not big fans of his. He's got to win them over and expand his base, not shrink his base. You don't ban people from MAGA if you want to become president of the United States again. That is Mark Thiessen weighing in on the president's proclamation to try to wedge Nikki Haley out. Mike Rogers joins us now, a former Michigan congressman, wants to be the next senator there and former chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee in Intel.

Also, you know that Mike also has served in the military and the FBI. Mike, welcome back. What do you think about what Mark Thiessen said?

Well, listen, elections are always about addition. And so when I look at how we're going to win here in Michigan, The Republican basis as fired up as I've ever seen them. And I do believe we need to engage independents and Democrats. And the reason you're seeing the numbers that you are in Michigan is because Independents and Democrats know that Joe Biden is a disaster. I mean, here in Michigan, it's $900.

I mean, the most expensive vehicle to operate in 2024, Brian, in Michigan is your grocery cart. nine hundred and fifty dollars a month. Between the Trump administration and the Biden administration, extra money that you didn't, by the way, it's inflationary, so groceries. Where'd you get that number from? We got that from the national there's some national reporting on it.

Heritage had a piece on it as well as if you do the standard inflationary numbers you'll get you'll come to that conclusion. It's about eleven thousand six hundred dollars in more spending uh per family across the country.

Well, that's a good number because the president does have macro numbers that look strong. Growth at GDP of 3.1 percent. We know unemployment's been low for five years now, thankfully, and inflation is growing at a slower rate, but it's never recovered from going up to 10. It's just increasing less, which people have to understand. And now the interest rate's going down.

And I wonder if the Fed wants Joe Biden to be president. Because if interest rates go down, that could loosen up the real estate market and that can get people remortgaging and doing other things. I just hope they're not playing politics. Are you saying that politics crept into the Fed, Brian? What?

Shocking. It used to be a conversation in the 90s that probably there'd be good pushback on. Yeah, exactly.

Well, nobody understands it now, but here's the thing: all the numbers you just talked about may be true. But what isn't happening is people I mean, Michigan, we're the median wage is about fifty six thousand dollars a year. Your energy prices have gone up, your grocery prices have gone up.

So when somebody looks at them and says, hey, we're all these smarty pants economists, And your life is better now because the economy is coming around thanks to borrowing and spending by Joe Biden. They ain't buying it because you have to take groceries off of the conveyor belt and put it back in your cart because the costs keep going up. And they say, well, inflation isn't as bad. It's still bad. It's a third higher than it should be, a third.

And so that means on top of that money, matter of fact, when I first started talking about the costs, Brian, it was $700 a month.

Now it's up to 950 according to latest numbers, right, when you think about the twenty percent, twenty two percent increases in costs. Across the board, gasoline. I mean, you just people understand it because they feel it every day.

So this is where, again, the economists, the bidynomics, all of that really fails. And now, of course, they're saying, oh, and by the way, we're going to tell you what kind of car you have to drive. Uh, and uh, and you're not going to like it. Oh, by the way, that's a 40% cut in labor. And that hits a state like Michigan incredibly hard, which is why the UAW president even came out, Brian, and said, Well, I get it that a lot of UAW voters will vote for Donald Trump this year.

Yeah, they will. because their costs are up. Uh they're going after their pickup trucks. I mean, you can't find a better set of issues to run against the debt. They have become the coastal elite party that is dangerous for the future of this country, and people are mad about it.

And so, as long as. President Trump talks about those things. I know I do every day. We're picking up friends and independents and Democrats every single day on the campaign trail.

Well, the line five. Tell everyone line five, if I have that right, through Lake Michigan and what this governor is going to do and what it would mean for the Upper Peninsula. We talked to Tudor Dixon yesterday. What would it mean for everyone in Michigan? Oh, it's very, very significant, right?

It's a pipeline that would be built underneath, not on top.

So the current pipeline that gets oil and natural gas from Canada sits on top of the bottom of the lake. And I think that's probably not the best answer. We have better technology today. They want to build a line underneath the lake so it doesn't and would not contaminate the water if, God forbid, something happened, which is the safest, most environmentally friendly way to get this thing done. And the governor just says no.

And you know why they say no? They really don't mind if your energy prices increase. They want to shove you into that electric car that doesn't work in the Upper Peninsula when it's 10 degrees. It's incredible. Do you hear that they're freezing new natural gas contracts because of, I was reading the New York Times yesterday there's some pressure from environmentalists.

Everybody knows it burns clean, but the transportation has great risk.

So by putting it on ships and having it go across oceans, they say it's too much of a carbon footprint.

So he's freezing all new natural gas contracts.

Well, again, they're doing this in tandem, and this is about a well-organized effort. raise your energy prices so high, you have to do what the government says, like buy an electric car again that doesn't work for you. Matter of fact, Brian, let's we'll have a little secret here in your listeners. I have the best new company idea ever. You're going to want to get in on this early.

We're going to produce the largest extension cords in the history of mankind. that you can actually take that extension core, plug your car in, get back and forth to work without worrying about losing charge and all of that. I mean, it's such nonsense. Here's what else they're doing. They're going after these things called marginal wells.

Marginal wells are those if you're ever out in rural, probably New York or here in Michigan and other places, Ohio, on these farms, sometimes you see these jack pumps just kind of pumping away. Those produce about five to fifteen barrels of oil a day. Which, by the way, is good extra income for farmers. And it produces roughly between 10 and 15 percent of the daily production of oil for the United States. They are trying to put them out of business.

There are some 700,000 of those. The EPA has come out here in the state of Michigan, they're trying to raise their bond prices.

So high that you can't, it doesn't even make sense to get the oil out of these things and send it into the market. That will artificially drive up the price of gasoline and make us far more dependent on yeah. And now you're doing this with natural gas. Are you still building the battery plant? The Chinese battery plant is still being built in Michigan?

Thanks. They have the federal government and the state government combined have given about $3 billion to these Chinese plants. Yeah, it's unbelievable. Here's the other part of this: gets my blood going. They're going to have to have Chinese engineers at this plant because they license this Chinese technology of which, by the way, taxpayers paid for probably before they stole it from University of Texas and now here in In the state of Michigan, we're going to give them money to help build this plan to get a part of this.

It's about 60 miles, and there's no travel restrictions.

So if you're a Chinese scientist, you show up. You have no travel, you can travel all over the state wherever you want to go. If you're, of course, and to be in that job, you have to be a Communist Party member. It's about 60 to 70 miles away from a place called Grayling, Michigan, which is where we have a pretty large Um mainly training base. And guess who we train at that base?

We train Taiwanese soldiers to defend themselves against a Chinese invasion in Taiwan. I'm sure this is all coincidence for the Chinese to want to be so involved so close to a military base that trains Chinese soldiers.

Well, you got to come up. I hope you have 30-second spots running on this or 60s. We're going to be talking about China a lot. Listen, the way the Biden administration is going, they're going to try to artificially make you try to drive away from energy by raising your prices. By the way, you pay the average working person is paying a horrible price for this.

Number one. Number two, 85% of all the processing of these electric cars they're mandating you drive have to be processed in China. China says they want to be the world-dominant economy by 2035. Guess what? The United States just handed them a no-toll pass to get there.

Well, we're not going to, hopefully, it can stop because they're sucking wind. They have their young people can't get jobs. Productivity is falling through the basement. They don't have any, they're not, their one-child policy is destroying their future.

So hopefully, people realize that. Mike Rogers, our guest. Mike, I've got to bring you to this. Texas, I've never seen it in my lifetime. You have 25 states backing up Texas against the federal government because all they want to do is protect their border.

And they are standing up to Joe Biden. And now they got some backing. Cut number three. We stand with Governor Abbott and Texas in reminding the federal government that under our Constitution, states are still sovereign, and we have the right. To protect our citizens, Texas has every right to stand its ground, and Florida will continue to be there, helping out every step of the way.

Governor Abbott has done the exact right thing, and I'll drive him more razor wire from South Dakota if I have to. Do you believe this is happening? This is not a war between the states, but war between the federal government and sober states. The blue states are affected in Illinois, are affected in New York, but they're keeping their powder dry right now. Your thoughts?

Oh, I've never seen anything like this. You want to talk about dividing America? This is doing it. The Biden administration's no-border policy, open border policy, A, is dangerous for our national security. It's all blinking red right now.

Matter of fact, a whole bunch of FBI guys said directors retired said, hey, there's probably an imminent attack. We can probably get at it, but something's coming. That's bad. Number two, the fact that the states want to try to protect its citizens and the federal government's. Literally cutting the cutting the fences that they put up to protect their own people is so outrageously bad and wrong.

And so when when when you hear uh the Biden administration running around saying this is about democracy, it's about democracy. Oh, it is about democracy. You are driving this country into the hands of the Communist Party and you're doing uh a disservice by allowing our criminal elements. Fentanyl, human trafficking, and now terrorists come across our southern border, and the rest of the nation knows it. This may be the largest miscarriage of justice I think I've ever seen.

They need to let these states protect themselves. And actually, what they need to do is protect us from the onslaught that's coming across that southern border. They're not doing it. I mean, again, this is why Democrats and independents in a state like Michigan are going, okay, something's up. This is wrong.

We're not putting up with it. That's going to be a really good day for us in November, but I'd rather have them fix it now because I'm a little bit afraid for our national security and our community security. We have criminal gangs, Brian, real quick, came up through the southern border from Chile. They're very sophisticated in the kind of home invasions they do. They have devices to get around your alarm system.

They have radios that interfere with police radios. Can you imagine this? And they're they're robbing homes all across south southeast Michigan today. This thing is an epidemic crisis and colossal failure by this administration to protect its citizens. Mike Rogers, best of luck to you trying to get that Senate seat, that open Senate seat in Michigan and working hard to do it.

The credentials are hard to argue with. It's hard to see find someone better. Mike Rogers, thank you. Thanks, Brian. You got it.

1866-408-7669. We got the war between 25 states and the federal government. We have the 2024 battle continuing as President Trump decides to tell the RNC thanks, but no thanks when it comes to automatically giving him the nomination. And we have Nikki Haley just spoke to Dana Prino. We'll bring some of that back.

A lot to go over.

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You can't work. No, but if it's at work and you know that they got that bonus. Would that just burn you up? Yes. Yes, it would.

If you got Kill Mead's bonus. Oh my God. Yeah. Waste all of time.

Well, how that, why that guy gets paid is beyond me. I think he pays Fox to work on it. I think that's true. He probably would. He would.

When we have a lot of time, we just bash kill mead. Oh, that's so wild. That's not fair. All right. That's it for us.

Have a great night. We all want Kill Mead's bonus, Craig. We all do. All right, so I'm I happen to be watching that. And I'm saying to myself, they have, they clearly told Jessica, take your time on one more thing.

And I never hear that. Usually, the worst person doesn't even get in on one more thing.

So she takes your time, they still have a minute left. How do I come up in that? And the biggest surprise, you know what the biggest surprise is, Allison? Is it Dana or Brett? Dana.

Dana. Her cut.

So, Dana Perino, to weigh in on this, when I always thought she would have my back and be the voice of reason. And not to go down that rabbit hole of in my bonus, and that I'm not worthy, overpaid, underpaid. How she would get involved in that. But I would argue she actually might have been the voice of reason because she said, you probably would pay Fox to work here. That's not good for my next contract.

All right. That's very true. Because Dana said it, they might even roll that clip.

So that's a little crazy. But isn't it endearing to know if they have extra time, the first thing they want to talk about is you? And everybody chimed in. Actually, Jessica did not chime in. And I appreciate Judge Pierrot.

And then Brett on the transition held on to it. I couldn't resist.

Okay, I want you to hear this yesterday. This is two days in a row, by the way. I don't know if we have Wednesday's speech, but on Thursday's speech, Joe Biden at a brewery to talk about how, because a bridge was rebuilt, this brewery was able to thrive somewhere in Wisconsin. Tell me if this makes sense to you. Cut twenty-nine.

Todd 20, sorry. By the way, used to make beer brewed here, it is used to make the bre brewed beer. Oh, Earth Rider, thanks for the Great Lakes. I wonder why.

Okay. Why they were laughing? That maybe triggered the president saying something.

So this is what he said. By the way, the beer brewed here. It used to be make the brew beard here. Oh, Earthrider, thanks for the Great Lakes. I wonder why.

Okay, that's somebody having an aneurysm. You know, we have seen anchors on the air. Do you ever see this? Where they just start saying unintelligible things they were they were having an aneurysm. I mean, this guy's had two aneurysms.

That's not a misstep. That's not a stutter. That's not twisting your words. This is. This is so nonsensical, it should be scary.

I mean, it is scary. Probably not having an aneurysm, but the point is, though, he does this. Very often. He does. Do we have Wednesdays, Eric?

Mess with a minimal America unless you want to get a benefit. Frankly. Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans, including the woman hollering. Woman Howering was Hamas. He is being interrupted wherever he goes, and with these protesters.

I don't know if you could yell at Donald Trump. I don't think Donald Trump has even said anything about that. But you can go yell at it, you know, but you're yelling at Joe Biden over his decision. You know, it was against his decision. A lot of the Democrats.

So, Stephen A. Smith weighed in too last night, and it's hard to look past any type of decline. We'll keep that for a different hour. But you have Dean Phillips. You have.

Obviously, John Fetterman is not going to be saying anything after what he for a year and a half he made no sense. But Now you have other people who just have to say, wait a second. Van Jones put it best. When he said the president would do very well not to speak. Because he doesn't do well.

making his own case. When you are best when your best advice is to not be there. It's like, Brian, you're great on your show, that radio show you do, but it's great, really good when you're not there. If someone says that, it's pretty big an insult. Brian, you get great ratings when you're not there.

If you do feel that way, Allison and Eric, don't tell me. All right. Brian killed me, Chill. I told you not to tell me. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division.

It's Brian Killmead. Hi, everyone. Brian Kilby coming to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country. We're going to be heard around the world. We're back from New Hampshire for a couple of days now.

Thanks so much for following us as we brought the show on the road. Congressman Jason Smith at the bottom of the hour. You know, he's chairman of Ways and Means, the most powerful committee in the House. He's going to be getting a look, not on a couple of things we're talking about, the new Immigration bill, which is supposed to be pretty comprehensive, have a lot of good things in it. But there's a lot of people on the right who say, I just don't trust Joe Biden to do anything on immigration.

Then we're going to do a Samo cast with Stuart Vorney.

So this is going to be a big hour. Julian Epstein standing by.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. But when it comes to social media, It follows us everywhere with addictive little pings and algorithms that keep us constantly turning back to it. These dopamine hits are so addictive, it's like a digital fentanyl.

There you go, social media ban in Florida for kids under 16. And it's also urged by Mayor Adams of New York City. Is this a trend that you can back? Is it even possible to enforce? Number two.

Since the New Hampshire primary, where she plays second, she has raised more than two and a half million dollars. Her super PAC, I'm told, is also raking in cash. But it's going to be tough for her to ramp up a national campaign very quickly. The GOP fight goes on as Haley stays in with enough donor dollars flowing to fight on against Trump. This, as a Reuters poll, shows he's expanding his lead over President Biden.

Number one. We stand with Governor Abbott. And Texas in reminding the federal government, under our Constitution, states are still sovereign. Texas has every right to stand its ground. Governor Abbott has done the exact right thing, and I'll drive him more razor wire from South Dakota if I have to.

Wow, a Texas standoff triggering a national divide as 25 states back Texas in their effort just to defend their border because President Biden won't. He's warning Governor Abbott to stand down and he won't.

So let's see how this goes. Just quick note. If you have the Fox News app, there's so many different ways to watch. You can watch on Fox Nation. And if you have the Fox News app, just look at the bottom of the app.

It says watch and just page over until you get radio. And on radio, you'll be able to see us and you'll see. We've got cameras all over here. Julian Epstein was in the studio. Last time we talked to him two weeks ago.

He served as chief counsel of the House Judiciary Committee, a staff director to the House Oversight Committee for Democrats. That's for about five years. Julian, welcome back. Brian, good morning. It's good to be with you again.

Hey, Julian, let me drag you into the standoff between Texas, who says, you're not letting me defend my border. You're not defending my border, so I'm doing it myself.

So they keep putting out razor wire. They locked him out of Shelby Park, a big illegal immigrant passage. They say that they have the Constitution on their side. They cite passages and they cite sentiments from Madison and Hamilton. Who's got the legal right here?

Well As a I'm sympathetic. I mean, and this is and I think a lot of Democrats more traditional and sort of centrist Democrats are sympathetic to what's happening in to the state of Texas. I mean, it is you can use whatever word you want, an invasion, just open board, whatever word you want. But there are millions every year flowing into this country, uncontrolled. We have no idea who many of these folks are.

We don't know how How many of the Folks that are being apprehended by Border Patrol are terrorists. We don't know how much fentanyl is coming in. We don't know how much. All of this is being done by gangs, but it's just an intolerable situation.

So I think uh the state of Texas is exasperated. and they are looking for desperate means to try to do something to control the problem. If you look at what happened in New York, Brian and Chicago, I mean, I think one of the smartest things that the Governor of Texas did was to ship immigrants to um illegal immigrants to Martha's manga. Because you see just a tiny number of Immigrants, a fraction of the number of immigrants going into democratic controlled strongholds. And Democratic officials have a complete meltdown.

Yeah. And the mayor of New York, the mayor of Chicago. The folks in Martha's Vineyard, they can't deal with it. And we're talking about just maybe a couple hundred thousand Macs in New York and Chicago, for example. and it's a complete collapse.

Of the system. And yet, Democrats and people are on the left in this sort of. Typical elite you know, do as I say, not as I do mentality are saying folks in the southern and the south and the border states should be able to deal with this and know you know, this is your problem. Right. And when we look to somehow that self help means, the federal government tries to slap it down.

As a legal matter, I think Texas will lose because of the supremacy of the federal government when it comes to immigration. But as a policy matter, what I think Biden ought to be doing is working with the governor of Texas helping to erect border fences. And that's a wall if that's the right thing. I want you to hear the legal argument. I want you to hear the legal argument.

Here's Governor Greg Abbott, cut five. It was the states that created the United States, and when the states voted to create the United States and have the Constitution, included in that agreement was the compact that the federal government would take care of the states. Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution speaks to that and says that if the federal government does not take care of the states, the states are in danger. We can ask the federal government to live up to its obligation. Then the authors of the Constitution knew there would be times when the federal government would not live up to its duty.

And so they've empowered states in Article I, Section 10, the right. Of self-defense. And what Texas is asserting is our Article I, Section 10, right of self-defense, because the President of the United States is not fulfilling his duty to enforce the laws passed by Congress that deny illegal entry into the United States. Had the House that argument? And do you bring that argument right to the Supreme Court?

What court does that hear that?

Well I I'm again, as a policy matter, I'm sympathetic to the governor of Texas. What about a legal matter? As a legal matter, I think this has been, you've had these issues litigated, including about eight years ago before the Supreme Court. And Supreme Court, would generally happen, this would go to the district, then up to the circuits and then the Supreme Court. As a as a legal matter, my guess is the Supreme Court is going to rule that enforcement of the borders is a federal function under the Constitution.

Well, then I think what the Supreme Court will say is the answer is. Uh, election uh, that the government is a bad answer, it's an unsatisfactory answer. I don't like it as a policy matter, as I say, I'm sympathetic. To the governor of Texas, because look, this has been a disaster. I've told Democrats this time and time again: if they don't like Donald Trump, Than the best, you know, they are acting as Donald Trump's best friend because Donald Trump came in in 2016 as much on immigration as anything else.

And if you want to look at why Donald Trump has jet fuel in his campaign right now, look at the immigration problem, look at the crime problem, look at the inflation problem, look at all of these issues that have resulted Uh In my opinion, because the White House and the President has listened. Too much to the far left of our party, and things have gotten chaotic. I mean, you should, I'm in Washington, D.C. right now. I can't find.

A single person in the city who has not been victimized By Car vandalization. Wow. Um Um Carjacking in general, or carjacking or crime in general. And so I think sort of what you're seeing in the in with the strength of support that Donald Trump has right now is a complete reaction to To liberal and progressive misrule, not just in the federal government, but I think in local governments as well.

So, Julian, right now, as you know, cinema. Langford, Murphy, along with White House representatives, have been working for weeks on, they say, a substantial border reform. But before the details come out, can you blame Republicans for being skeptical that there's any sincerity from the White House at all, judging by what I just told you? They're saying, take up the razor wire. I'm going to sue Texas if they enforce their own border.

How dare the Texas National Guard do their arresting and pass their own rules? We're going to sue them because of that. We're not going to give money to the cities for their illegal immigrants that are all over the place in sanctuary cities in New York and Chicago, San Francisco and Philadelphia. We're not giving them money. These are Democratic-run cities.

So then all of a sudden, you look at this piece of paper and you say, okay. This is the immigration reform bill that's supposed to be so hard. How am I supposed to sincerely think that you back this piece of paper when your actions leading up to the release are so anti-enforcement? Look, I used to be chief counsel of the judiciary committee in the House for the Democrats, Brian. And I remember a time under the Clinton administration.

then under the Obama administration, were Democrats you know, had a very common sense centrist position. They believe that illegal They believe that immigrants should learn to speak English. They were strongly against illegal immigration. They were for legal immigration. They believed in border security.

They even, up until 2014, believed in walls. and fencing to create security. And the party has had sort of just A radicalization, almost an invasion of the body snatchers in the last. in the last five, six years. Where it has just become sort of radical controlled by the radicalized left.

And so, what I understand the cynicism that some Republicans feel. Um when when Corrine Jean Pierre at the White House stands up and says, you know, this is a problem because Congress hasn't been able to fix it. That's just not correct. The President has power today without any legislation. To reinstate Title forty two.

Two. Employ a remain in Mexico policy the way Trump did to Yeah. rescind all of the parole. provisions that have allowed This sort of catch and release disaster policy.

So, the president has the authority to. fix the immigration problem for the most part just because of his inherent authority. Um The fact that this President has not done so and is looking for sort of a bailout on this issue politically around election time is the reason that Republicans don't want to play ball. I sort of get that. Um I think that it makes sense to proceed with the cinema bill and this bipartisan effort.

Depending on what it is.

Well, depending on what it is, because I think there are if there's the right provisions are in there, I think there are things worth putting in legislation, strengthening and heightening asylum standards.

sort of you know there's a host of things that I think would make sense to supplement the President's authority. But And I don't think regardless of I mean, I think the Republican fear right now is if they sign up to any legislation that they will own the immigration problem in addition to the President owning it politically. I don't think that's a real threat. I mean, I think the approval numbers of the President's handling on immigration are the numbers that I've seen are something like 70, 30 against, disapprove of what the President has done. I don't think even if Republicans sign up for legislation to strengthen.

the immigration system. I don't think they pay a political price in terms of owning the problem that Biden has almost 100% created. Couple, yeah.

So I'd be for the legislation. But we should all see what's in it first before you even say it. Correct.

So let's see when Lankford is still beating each other up there behind closed doors. Uh Julian, the other thing to keep in mind is that um At this moment, there's an opportunity if they wanted to. Federal troops, we could have Border Patrol clashing with the Texas National Guard. If they're told to go in and reclaim Shelby Park, if they're told to go in and start clipping that razor wire, the Texas National Guard, we're told, don't back off. Do you worry about a a physical clash?

Yeah, I would I worry about uh Um really unnecessary confrontation. I don't think I mean, I think it is shameful that Um the President has spent so little time on the border And has seen so little himself on a first-hand basis in terms of how bad the problem is.

So I I I think it is Sort of ask backwards here, Brian, if you don't mind my saying that. I think what the President should be doing is directing Border Control to cooperate. With the governor of Texas and to create better border security. I mean, we're talking about two to three million a year. illegal immigrants coming into The United States, and we have no idea who many of these folks are.

I was just looking at a letter from senior officials, former senior officials of the FBI, talking about the various different types of. security threats that we face. We don't know what terrorists are coming in. Many of the people coming in don't necessarily share a value system. I mean, this is insanity.

And you know. As I said, less than a decade ago, Obama was known as the decorter-in-chief. I mean, the Democrats have completely switched positions from a responsible center to what I think is just an irresponsible progressive left position that is unsustainable. I know. And I just go back to a center Manchin just said in this event.

He said, I went up to Joe Biden after he named his staff and he said, This is the most left-wing Bat Blank crazy staff I've ever seen. And Biden goes, Well, it's so diverse. He goes, It is so left-wing. That's a Democrat who sounds like you talking to a president who hired these left-wingers who have implemented this policy. And that's why they're propping them up, hoping to get another four years so they could do their work, even though they're president.

Go ahead, real quick. Can I tell you one thing? There are a lot of Democrats that feel that way. And the problem with our politics right now is that people don't come on the Brian Kilmead show. And don't come elsewhere and say these things publicly because they're worried that the flying monkeys of the left will shame them.

And it's time for sort of people that have common sense, whether you're Democrat or Republican, to stand up what's right and what's wrong. And this is wrong, Julian Epstein. Always great. Thanks so much, Julian. Have a fantastic weekend.

Brian, you got it. Thanks for having me again, Brian. You got it. Well, bottom of the hour, Jason Smith, you're next. Brian, kill me, Joe.

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I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediately surge to the border. All those people are seeking asylum. They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. We're a nation that says: if you want to flee and you're fleeing oppression, you should come.

You idiot. That was candidate Joe Biden who ended up emerging with the nomination and ultimately beat Donald Trump for the presidency. And that statement was heard around the world. That's why people stormed across our border with Biden-Harris shirts on. And they've stopped and they've continued at a dizzying pace.

And my fear is that when it becomes clear that Trump is going to win, which he looks like he's going to now, you're not going to believe. We're going to have countries coming here. And this guy has no idea. what he's doing to this country. Because he's listening to all his left wing staffers, and I don't think he has any idea how bad it is.

He should get his eighty-year-old butt down there to see for himself. Instead, he's sending his minions down there to cut razor wire and stop Texas from doing Enforcing their border. You know who else is probably cheering Texas and not the Border Patrol? Nothing against them and not the federal government. New York, Philadelphia.

Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles, every major city, St. Louis, all these cities that have had their lives detrimentally affected by this influx and have their budgets blown up, taking care of people from other nations because they'd rather be here than where they were born. That's not the way it works. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Senator McConnell is very focused on getting Ukraine in. Very focused on it. And I have no reason to believe he's equivocating on that. I think he was just kind of laying out the question. Quandry we were in, laying out kind of what the field looks like.

How this is affected by President Trump weighing in and saying, don't solve the problem at the border, is the real question.

So we have a Senate border deal that the House got to look at that most of the Senate hasn't seen, but they're working hard on it, Langford Cinema and Senator Murphy, Connecticut. At stake is all this international aid: $65 billion to Ukraine, less to Israel, and some to Taiwan. And everything is on hold for this. They're thinking about separating this from it, and not many people trust this administration to implement any of it. But if their law is law, they'll have to eventually do it or they'll be breaking the law.

Congressman Jason Smith of the House and Waste Committee joins us right now. He's chairman there. Congressman, welcome back. It's great to be with you, Brian.

So what have they told you about Senator Lankford's deal? that could be coming your way. Do you have anything concrete? Nothing concrete, very little. The biggest issue, Brian, when you look at the border and securing the border, the President can do this.

It's because the President is not enforcing the laws. In fact, in his first few days in office, right after he was sworn in, he did countless executive orders reversing the successful border policies of President Trump. That is why we are where we are today. He could fix that by reverting back to Remain in Mexico, ending catch and release. There's numerous items.

But and the fact that we even appropriated five billion dollars in a bipartisan measure to build the wall, and he has not allowed one dollar of that to be used to building any portion of the wall, even though it was appropriated in a bipartisan measure by Congress.

So right now, we have a situation where Texas is actually fighting with the federal government. Twenty-four other states have backed Texas. They're all Republican states, but I'm sure Illinois, New York understands and understands how they would benefit from the border being enforced. Have you ever in your life seen this? I have never seen anything like this.

But you know what? The governor of Texas, Governor Abbott, has the right to protect his constituents from an invasion that's happening at the southern border because the President of the United States is not enforcing the laws. That's why you've seen dozens, dozens of governors across the country speaking in support of Abbott's actions.

So, I want you to see what the Wall Street Journal says today to you guys in an editorial. They basically say they could be detrimental just walking away from a border deal. I'm not sure what it is. I've gotten briefed on what it could be, and there's some really good things in there, but it's not everything, obviously. And this is what they say: giving up on a border deal will be a self-inflicted GOP wound.

President Biden would claim, with cause, that Republicans want border chaos as an election issue rather than solving the problem. Voter anger may, over time, move from Mr. Biden to the GOP, and the public will have a point. Cynical is the only word that fits Republicans panning a border deal whose details aren't even known.

Well, I would just say that the Wall Street Journal needs to know the root of the problem. The root of the problem are the actions of the Biden administration. You can't throw money at this problem to fix it. It's policies that were very effective. very effective under President Trump that were reversed in the first three days of office by President Biden.

And that's why you've seen more people illegally cross the southern border than the entire population of my home state of Missouri and Delaware combined, plus more than 2 million gotaways. The terrorist that's crossing the southern border and the security risk that every American's facing because of the reckless actions of President Biden is unacceptable. That's what needs to be addressed, not fake policies that will just try to throw some money in a direction. What if they say parole is gone? Asylum only if you can prove you're under threat, which means almost no one will get it.

What if money is to fly these people rapid release, rapid return, I should say? What if it eliminates catch and release? What if some of the things you sign off on? What if some of it's hilarious? If it has the policies of HR two that the House passed almost a year ago that secures our border, then that's a great, great agreement.

But right now, they're not even talking an inch of what the House of Representatives passed almost a year ago. Uh did H.R. two get every Republican vote? HR2 got the majority of Republicans. I don't know the answer to that.

Does Julie have a two-seat majority?

So I'm not even sure if uh HR two's possible. We've already passed HR two, so it's already over in the United States Senate. We did our job in securing the border and the border policies. The United States Senate has yet to pass anything. Just do you see a risk there to just walking away from the deal if you like two-thirds of it?

I think whenever you look at any agreement, you look if the good outweighs the bad, Brian. And that's how you have to look at it.

So I always think that if you agree with someone 70% of the time, just like Ronald Reagan said, then they're a friend. And you should look at it in policy-wise.

However, you need to make sure that there's not provisions in a bill that are absolutely lethal and toxic, because sometimes that can be the case that it sinks a whole bill. Uh here's what Gavin Newsom said, cut 14. I thought that was shameful, what was reported out. That he's just completely rolling over and capitulating. Don't even get me started with the weakness of the current Speaker of the House.

I mean, they don't want a deal. Period, full stop. They don't want a deal. They don't want to make this a quote-unquote campaign win for Joe Biden. It's just everything you need to know about the fraud that they're perpetuating on the issue of the border.

They want to make this a political issue consistently. Your thoughts about Gavin Newsom? I think he needs to take care of his home state of California and not be so worried about federal issues because he couldn't be more wrong in the statements he just made. I think you are 100% right. He's giving guys health care, free health care.

That is the biggest magnet across the border. He does not even try to enforce his border, and his state has been totally overrun.

So, this is an issue. The one thing I look at, Jason, and you live this every day, is that this is the one time you guys might have more leverage, even with President Trump in office, to actually pass something. Because it is so detrimental to even Democrats. I don't know anyone who says, Yeah, the border is fine outside AOC. There's not.

Democrats and Republicans know that the policy that Joe Biden reversed of President Trump's has created the crisis that we're facing at the southern border. And who can fix that? President Trump can definitely fix that. Joe Biden could fix it right now by himself, but he refused to over and over.

So a couple of things going on right now. It looks like President Trump is going to have to wait a little bit longer to lock up the nomination. Nikki Haley, I think he's a fine candidate, got a lot of energy and a lot of money. Does it hurt or help the party to have the presidential nomination process being dragged out? I think it's indifferent.

Everyone knows that Donald Trump is the nominee. It's just running through the tape. Nikki Haley has no shot at being the nominee. We saw that President Trump is the first. First candidate to win Iowa and New Hampshire with more than 50% of the vote for both of them in the history of any contested race.

There's no way. And then in South Carolina, which is her home state, he's going to blow her out. Uh I always hear Nikki Haley say this: Donald Trump spent too much. He'll put $7 trillion to the debt. I'm not I know you were in ways and means then, but could you put in perspective how much money was put after the pandemic hit and how we just said to tell everyone not to work and write checks, we're going to r give you free money?

There were trillions of dollars that was passed During the pandemic and after the pandemic, the bill that caused the biggest damage. The economy was the American Rescue Plan that was passed in the first three months of President Biden's term. It was a $2 trillion spending bill that was not needed. Even Democrat economists said that there was no additional need of money. Inflation before the passage of that bill was 1.4 percent.

Since that time, inflation has risen 17.3%, causing every American to struggle to put food on their table, clothes in their backs, and gasoline in their cars.

So it's those policies that were so bad. And the reason why they were able to get the American Rescue Plan passed. Is because the Democrats at that moment controlled the White House, the House, and the Senate. Lastly, the President of the United States has decided Real quick, to stop all natural gas permits in its tracks as of now. How much does this hurt this country?

Last 30 seconds? I don't understand why the President has war on U. S. energy. We should embrace U.

S. energy. We should utilize U. S. energy, not become more dependent on foreign sources that don't like us.

Congressman Jason Smith, thanks so much. Appreciate it, Chairman. Great to be with you, Brian. All right, we're going to do a simple cast with Stuart Varney next. You'll listen to the Brian Kill Me Show.

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Now the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney, live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome back, everyone. In a matter of moments, we're going to talk a little about 2024 with Stuart Varney. We'll do a simulcast on FBN.

That'll be great. And then we'll talk about Nikki Haley staying in. She was on with Dana Perino earlier. One thing is, she's raised over $2 million since coming in second place out of two legitimate contestants in New Hampshire, lost by about 11 percentage points. The question is.

Going after Donald Trump personally, is that going to hurt the President? What about Donald Trump having to fight the intramural battle before he gets to the championship against Joe Biden? Is that going to hurt the President? I think that there's an excellent there's a school of thought, and I subscribe to it. That the longer they have to treat the president.

Like a legitimate contender. There the man is. Here we go, Bright. The RNC, Republican National Committee, they wanted to make Trump the presumptive GOP nominee.

Okay, Trump turned it down. Nikki Haley's outraged because it sounded like the RNC wanted her to drop out.

So, Brian, should she drop us step aside? It's a little like the Democrats did when they basically just woke up Joe Biden from his sleep and just made him the nominee last time. Even though Bernie Sanders had the momentum, Elizabeth Warren couldn't get any traction, so they had no choice. And people were critical of that. I'm critical of this.

I understand David Bossey is a big Trump fan. And David Bossey put together criteria in order to get to the quickest winner quickly so they can start getting the money to the national candidate. I'm sure he was pulling for Trump, but he was approaching it fairly.

Now it looks like there's no pathway for Nikki Haley ultimately to win. We don't know. But we look right now, and we've been through this so many times, every four years, everyone can kind of get it after a while.

So it looks like Trump's going to do it. But I don't think there was any right for Rona McDaniel to go through with it, for David Bossy to do it. And I'm so proud of the president for looking for the bill that's better for the country and ultimately for his nomination and saying, guys, thank you. But let me win the game. I don't want you to pay off the refs.

That's what the Democrats do. Let me win the game. And let's go do it. And but one thing that happened today I think is instructive. Nikki Haley.

Was able to do an interview with us, and Donald Trump had to cancel an Arizona event in order to go to court. And that's what Nikki Haley's going to say. And that's what you that's a legitimate argument. Hey, listen, I can campaign, he's going to be caught up in court. And then he's got to answer that.

And I'm sure he has answers for it. But I don't like the personal attacks on saying the president's too old. Those are Democrats' attacks. The president screws up in maybe the 88th minute of a 90-minute speech. This president Can't get through a 12-minute speech.

That's true. I want to talk about Senator Joe Manchin. He went after Biden's administration. Watch this. I said, Mr.

President, when he first got elected, I said, you've got the most liberal administration I've ever seen. And he said, they tell me I have the most diverse. And I said, sir, I'm not talking about diversity. I'm talking about that crazy. I go.

these people. I've worked with them. 12 years. And there's a lot of good people that are kind of afraid to speak out because they're afraid they'll get primary. They're afraid that they're just not falling in line enough so they still stay quiet.

I wish I could have heard all of that and understood it, but basically, my question is: is Manchin running on a third-party ticket? Is that what he wants to do? Number one, how great was that? I just love that you picked that soundbite. It's my favorite soundbite of the day.

It's in a brewery, so it's echoed. But what he said is: hey, Mr. President, you picked the most left-wing staff you could possibly pick. You know, he said, They tell me, number one, you didn't pick it. They tell me it's the most diverse.

Can we please? You just outlined the difference between Democrats and Republicans. We want the best person. They want the most diverse person that checks boxes. When you do that, they end up protesting you out in front of your own White House because they don't like you.

They're using you to get power. That's the only reason you trot out Joe Biden right now, because those assistants and those deputies and those secretaries and those czars want to keep their power. They don't care about Joe Biden himself. And I can't believe there's no one in his life. Who cares more about him than they do about the White House?

I love that. And I think Joe Manchin is running. Right now, they're on Noble Labels is 18 ballots. He says, I'm going to. I want to get to this.

Have you seen this new study? It shows that Irish exiting, leaving a party without saying goodbye to anyone, gives you two days' worth of extra time in your life. I don't know whether you saw that or not, but I happen to do the Irish exit every time. I never say goodbye, I just leave very quietly. How about you?

I invented the Irish exit. Even before I could drive, I would leave a party early because I don't want to hug a bunch of people I'm going to see the next day. I want to just get out when I want to get out. I know when I have to leave, and I don't want people to convince me otherwise.

So I love that study. Even if you made that up, Stuart, because I haven't read that anywhere. I love that study. I'm going to live by it the rest of my life. And now I knew instinctively what's best for me in the long run.

And after all, aren't we all out for what's best for ourselves? Yes, yes. I just like to get out early without anybody knowing what that. That's why I don't invite you out because I never know when you're going to leave. Yeah.

I leave early. Kill me, you are all right, and I will see you later. Have a great weekend, sir. See you later. All right.

1866-408-7669. I love the Iris exit. I mean, to me, it makes so much sense because you know you're speaking to them. You're like, okay, these people are busy. These people are busy.

I'm just about done. I got to get up at 2:30 in the morning. I got to leave. I don't need to spend another 20 minutes telling people I got to get up at 2:30 in the morning. I got to leave.

So I live by the Iris Exit. And I don't like a lot of long goodbyes anyway.

So. Because you're not a hugger. Not a hugger. I don't need a lot of time. I don't want to explain to people why I'm leaving.

There's only I know.

However, you probably have the best excuse out of anyone ever at a party. I'm waking up to 2:30 in the morning. And the other one was: I was up at 2:30, I gotta go.

So, even if it's Saturday, I get out.

Well, for Saturday's the only day you don't have the excuse. My problem is, Allison, is Dawn does like to be polite and Dawn will do the right thing and say goodbye to every single person. Oh, I guess we got to say goodbye to the host. We got to make sure they know that we bought him a bottle of wine. We got to go over here.

We got to say goodbye to everyone. And that is the right thing. But now I've got to say, this study says that our lives will be better if you just follow me. She'll get more time with you. But that makes total sense because she's one of the sweetest human beings out there.

Right. She's very nice. I will give her a tip because my mom did the same thing. My dad would want to go. He'd tell my mom, Cheryl, start saying goodbye now, like an hour before he wanted to leave.

And then that sort of helped. Did it work? She's still always like her too. She doesn't get caught up. But it shortened it up.

Hey, listen, we're going to go. Oh, you're going to go. Really? Why are you going? Why are you going to run?

Oh, really? Why don't you stay a little while? We're going to sing. We're going to give out cake. And you love to dance.

Right. And we could dance. Right. And we'll have a closing dance. By the way, there's good news.

They're adding pickleball to the curriculum of most gym classes, which I love. Gives even people that are not great athletes a chance to play. And I hope it's in lieu of square dancing. Because to me, square dancing should not be in gym. Am I right, Eric?

He's nodding yes. Thank you, Eric. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

So glad you're here. Brian Kilmead from 48th and 6 in Manhattan. We're just in New Hampshire. Before that, most of the show was in Iowa. We have so much to talk about as we talk about New York City and where the former President of the United States is going back to court today.

So he's going to have this civil trial over, whether it's going to cost him $5 million, $10 million, or zero. I'm not sure, but at least one will be done. That will be good, I guess, from his stake. And then, with a big story today, Mike Rahman will read in the New York Times how Alvin Bragg is queuing up to get his case going in the spring. That case is an excellent chance of blowing up, and you can imagine the jet fuel that will give the Trump administration, the Trump team, who is ready to go, and Nikki Haley's looking to stay.

Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. But when it comes to social media. It follows us everywhere with addictive little pings and algorithms that keep us constantly turning back to it. These dopamine hits are so addictive, it's like a digital fentanyl.

Fiona McFarland, the Florida State House Representative bill sponsor of a social media push to ban social media for kids under 16. This is also urged by the mayor of New York City. Is this a trend you can back? And is it even possible to enforce? Number two.

Since the New Hampshire primary, where she plays second, she has raised more than two and a half million dollars. Her super PAC, I'm told, is also raking in cash, but it's going to be tough for her to ramp up a national campaign very quickly. There you go. The GOP fight goes on for Nikki Haley. She stays in with enough donor dollars flowing to fight against Trump.

This is Reuters Poll Shows. Trump is up by six against Biden now. Number We stay in with Governor Abbott. And Texas in reminding the federal government, under our Constitution, states are still sovereign. Texas has every right to stand its ground.

Governor Abbott has done the exact right thing, and I'll drive him more razor wire from South Dakota if I have to. A Texas standoff triggering a national divide on 25 states backing Texas in their effort to defend their own border because Biden won't. He's warning Governor Abbott to stand down. Guess who's not? Texas and Governor Abbott, who I believe is going to India this weekend, trying to get some more commerce in there.

Shannon Bream is joining us now, fresh off her trip to New Hampshire, getting set to host her show, Fox News Sunday, which amongst her guests will be Chairman McCall, right? Michael McCall? You got it. He's going to be with us to talk about all kinds of foreign policy issues with the border too. He's obviously from Texas and has had just about enough.

And who else do you have? We have got the NATO Secretary General to talk with us about a lot of big foreign policy issues. Sweden's still on the cusp of trying to get in as Russia continues its march on Ukraine also. I have hopefully, by the end of this interview, I can tell you the other two people that we have locked in. I'm watching my phone, but it will be very much to do with the Senate border negotiation bill.

Well, Turkey's out of Sweden's way, so Sweden should be in. And you take extra.

Well, I mean, Hungary is still giving them some problems, so we'll see. Oh, really? Yeah. Why would Hungary be against Sweden joining NATO? Think about that.

Right. There are questions. Critics say that Hungary is too tight with Putin. And that there are some potential conflict there, but I haven't asked President Orban myself, so I'm going to have to just speculate. There's no reason.

I mean, it has to be an homage to Vladimir Putin, more than disturbing.

So let me bring you to Greg Abbott's case that he has for putting more razor wire down and ignoring the Supreme Court order to let the Border Patrol in. Cut five. It was the states that created the United States. And when the states voted to create the United States and have the Constitution, included in that agreement was the compact that the federal government would take care of the states. And Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution speaks to that and says that if the federal government does not take care of the states, the states are in danger.

We can ask the federal government to live up to its obligation. Then the authors of the Constitution knew there would be times when the federal government would not live up to its duty. And so they empowered states in Article 1, Section 10, the right to determine the United States Of self-defense. And what Texas is asserting is our Article I, Section 10, right of self-defense, because the President of the United States is not fulfilling his duty to enforce the laws passed by Congress that deny illegal entry into the United States. That's his argument.

Legal, I mean, constitutionally, what do you think as a lawyer, opinion aside, as a lawyer, Shannon, is it solid? What's its weakest side? I think it's tricky because you don't have case law that shows invasion, which is the word used in both of those constitutional segments. The word invasion is what you're going to have to define back in the time that those Articles were drafted. Obviously, the border states would have to worry about actual other countries coming across their border.

And I think that that's going to be, you know, as Jonathan Turley talked about this morning, that's going to be the trickiest part for arguing this. In a court now in 2024, does what we're seeing at the border equate to an invasion? I think some judges would say yes. Do you get five out of nine on the Supreme Court? I don't know.

Well, what did they just rule? They just ruled that they had to take the the wire down? No. All they did was get rid of this lower court order that told the feds they couldn't touch it.

So the Supreme Court did not say anything on the merits. They didn't say you've got to go take the wire down. All they did was strike down this lower court order that was blocking the Feds from doing it.

So now whether the Feds do it or not is up to them. Interesting clarification. The question is, and I know one of our reporters, Matt Finn, says he doesn't doesn't look likely, but could there be a confrontation between Texas National Guard and the Border Patrol, Federal troops, anything? That's obviously everybody's kind of worst nightmare. If you look at our men and women in uniform as the good guys, we don't want two sets of good guys having to go after each other.

I talked to some Border Patrol folks yesterday who said to me, We cannot imagine a physical altercation. We know they have superiors to obey. We know we have superiors to obey. But we're all trying to do the same thing to make the border lesson. And I know, but if your superior says, go in there and cut the wire, and Texas says, if they go to cut the wire, block them, that's the problem.

They're all taking orders. I'm not sure. That Texas would do that. I mean, they still have the court arguments to play out. It might hurt them in court if there is some kind of physical dust up between these two agencies.

February 7th, the Fifth Circuit, which is that step one below the Supreme Court, they're going to hear arguments over this. And I think this whole thing ends up back at the Supreme Court where they'll actually hear the case on the merits. And I do think you could get a different ruling than this order you got this week. Here is what Greg Abbas said about that Cut 11.

Now, I think maybe we will get it to the Fifth Circuit on its merits, where I believe we can. And I do believe that when it gets to the Supreme Court, we can win. We already, I don't know how and why the justices voted the way they did, but there seemed to be four justices who indicated at least an appetite to hear the case as is. A fair point is the case that was presented to the United States Supreme Court. Actually, did not have very much of a record upon which an appellate court can actually make a decision.

So those who may not have voted in favor of Texas, or say those who voted to send it back to the Fifth Circuit, they may have thought in their mind that there's not enough record for them to make a decision.

So, this is going to be fascinating, but in the meantime, this is a problem. They don't want more, they want what they had: a semblance of border security.

So, I don't know how any responsible governor could do anything but this. How do you just let cities get overrun? How do you let your border states get overrun? And if you are a blue state governor or mayor, how do you not say, well, you got to stop it at the border? They've said as much.

Yeah, and that's what Governor Abbott brought up as well. These other cities and states and governors that are further north and they're blue are now getting it because they see what's happening. They're hearing from their constituents. They're begging the White House. They're calling out the White House, which is why this has become such a tough issue for President Biden.

The polling is terrible, and publicly your own party is calling you out. But yeah, these border state governors say we absolutely believe and have a legal argument, we think, to lock it down. Because, you know, the big case that was at the Supreme Court, I think 2012 or so, was Arizona when they tried to pass their own law there to be able to arrest people, keep them out, that kind of thing. It was a split decision at the court. Arizona lost.

Justice Scalia wrote, concurring in part, but the dissent was really the main part of what he wrote. And he said, if we don't think Arizona can pass laws like this and protect its own border, how do we even call it a sovereign state? We have to stop doing that if we don't think that states can actually take these measures and take these steps. Wow, they should cite that. That was certainly strong.

So, the Wall Street Journal writes this about a would-be immigration reform plan that's going to be released soon. It's already in overtime. It says: some Republicans are demanding nothing less than what their own preferred border bill, known as H.R. 2. That measure commanded no Democratic support in the House, and it won't miraculously win over the Democrats, needed to clear the Senate.

Yet, giving up on a border security bill would be a self-inflicted GOP wound. President Biden would claim with cause that Republicans want border chaos as an election issue rather than solving the problem. Voter anger may, over time, move to Biden from Biden to the GOP. If this is as good as Senator Langford has said, some parts of this are fantastic, but he doesn't get everything he needs. Do you think Republicans would be wise to keep their powder dry until at least it comes out?

Okay, I now have an update for you. I have just received confirmation that Lankford is going to join us on Sunday.

So, we will be able to push him for more details on this thing that people want to kill before they've ever seen it. We have the speaker out this morning, too, saying basically, from what we know, it would have been DOA over here anyway. But as you mentioned, there's that whole problem of who gets blamed for this thing. Because if President Trump, you know, it's being touted that he wants to keep it alive so he has it for a campaign issue, you got folks out there like Congressman Dan Crenshaw from Texas saying, How in the world do we justify to people out there that we're going to let hundreds of thousands of more people in this dangerous, chaotic situation at the border just because we want to keep it for an election issue?

So, listen, it will give the White House a lot of room to point back at Republicans and say, this is your fault if it doesn't come together. And you got people like Lindsey Graham out there warning, you're not going to get a better deal. Even if Trump wins, Democrats are going to expect something much more. You got to get to 60 votes in the Senate. You're not going to have them probably.

So, take what you can get. Just read it first. I mean, I'm watching a press conference where people haven't even read it yet and they're condemning it. Yeah, which is why I'm so glad that Lankford's going to be with us on Sunday.

So we'll confront him about some of the most controversial stuff. Is President Trump right? Is Speaker Johnson right? Is it full of stuff that's really good for people who want the border to continue and not good for locking it down? I can't imagine Lankford would waste so much time on something that would be that terrible.

There's got to be something redeeming, or why waste all this time? I don't know.

We'll see what's in there. Yeah, we'll see what's in there. Finally, Uh this is Joe Biden. at the primary debate, which I think should be on any Donald Trump I would, in fact, make sure that there is, we immediately surge to the border. All those people are seeking asylum.

They deserve to be heard. That's who we are. We're a nation that says: if you want to flee and you're fleeing oppression, you should come. That's exactly, Shannon, what happened. Please don't tell me this is a natural migration or it's global warming.

They are doing what he said.

Well, and also in 2007, he was at a debate where he was asked whether sanctuary cities should be punished, whether they should be allowed to defy federal law. And he said no, they should not be able to defy federal law. But that's the whole argument against the Biden administration, is that there are plenty of laws on the books. They are not enforcing them. And back in 2007, when he was running to become president, he certainly thought that that's not something cities should get away with.

Right, and let's see, I'm sure you saw the Reuters poll. I'm not sure if it reached our standards, but as Donald Trump beating Joe Biden now by 6, 40, 34, and if RFK stays in the race, he beats him by 636, the 30 RFK seems to be taking more from Joe Biden. And that means that not much sticky hailer. She's going to soldier on, but she is kind of losing that argument that Donald Trump can't win. I'm not saying he will, but saying he can't is just not reflective of what we're seeing.

Well, and that issue was one that you and I heard from voters on the ground in Iowa and New Hampshire. When I said to Niki Hillia, the voters, what's the deal? What's the policy? They said, I think she has a better chance to win in the general. It wasn't when I said, Well, what about the border or Ukraine or about whatever?

It wasn't her policy position. It was that they want to win and they think she has the best chance. But the more polling that you get, and the Trump campaign, you know, make sure that we all see it, and they flood it out to us too. If they have more and more polls increasing saying that he can win the general, it does mute a bit of that argument for her.

Okay, Janet, you have a lot to do. I'm so glad you got Langford. I'll be watching. We'll be playing the sound back on Monday. And all I could say is Langford should get ready for some Republican blowback.

Whatever you do, do not label him a moderate. Do not say he is a rhino. Understand that he's trying to work out a deal, and you can't get everything with a deal. You might not like the deal, that's fine, but don't tar the guy. Uh because he's out there rolling up his sleeves.

Well, he's about as conservative as they come.

So whether this deal is or not, he is. That's his reputation here on the Hill. But we will have some Republican critics to come join and we'll debate what's in the deal as we know it. Go get him. Shannon Bream, thanks so much.

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It's Brian Kilmeid. It's unfortunate that there is a governor in Texas, Governor Abbott, who has politicized this issue of what's happening on the border. And it's not making people's lives safer. It's actually making it harder for law enforcement at the border to do their job. Unbelievable, right?

Does she even believe what she's saying or have a clue what's going on? KJP talking about Governor Abbott taking action by putting up more wire and putting his border agents down there. By the way, the cost to Texans is billions. Julie, listening on News Talk 97-1. Hey, Julie.

Hey there. Hey, I'm so mad if Trump is actually trying to blow up a border deal. The media, every story on Google, if you Google Trump border deal, is that he's trying to tank it. What do you know about this? I I don't know.

I don't know for sure. But let's see what's in it. My feeling is, if there's a lot of good in it, Mitch McConnell came out and said, I guess it's not in, he's our nominee and he doesn't want it. I'm not sure. There's a lot of things.

He's trying to kill it. It's bad on two fronts. Number one, that he's trying to kill a deal to control the border, but also look at the story he's handing the media. Absolutely. You know, here's our nominee, and he's trying to kill a border deal.

And now Biden is all over him saying he wants the chaos.

Well, he doesn't want to change it. That's true. And listen, I want to see what's in it. But the one thing they do is they have no trust that Joe Biden will implement anything that they pass. And yet he'll get a chance to high-five and say, look what I've done.

That's the rub. But the Wall Street Journal agrees with you today and says Republicans should really think of it. Read it first. really think about what bothers him, see if it could be fixed, and know that Donald Trump will not be able to get everything done that he wants done. And a lot of this stuff, if he thinks he's going to be president, and I do think he will win, if he wants to be president, a lot of this stuff will make his job easier.

So I have the same worry that you have, Julie. Just blindly saying whatever Joe Biden has, we can support. Karen in San Diego. Hey, Karen. Hey.

Good morning, Mr. Kildmead. What's on your mind? Um, yeah. Uh, I want to let people know what it's like to live near the border.

But you have no idea. They don't. What is it like? We have tent cities all over. All over my small town.

I'm not just in San Diego. I am ten minutes from the border. I can really throw away. How does that compare to three years ago, five years ago, ten years ago? Oh, my God.

Yeah. It's inundated, it's at every park. You can't take your kids to local parks. It's at our libraries. They're camped out near elementary schools.

There are Kent cities all along. We have a trolley. That is inundated. I almost had a heart attack when I saw it. I was down in that area.

where my grandmother used to live. And it's like inundated with homeless people. Yeah, I saw this thing on La Jolla. Where these guys come in in a power boat, they run up to the shore, up the rocks, I know exactly where they're running, and they go into SUVs and they get pulled away. Information you want, truth you demand.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. We stand with Governor Abbott. and Texas in reminding the federal government That under our Constitution, states are still sovereign, and we have the right. to protect our citizens. Texas has every right to stand its ground and Florida will continue to be there helping out every step of the way.

Governor Abbott has done the exact right thing, and I'll drive him more razor wire from South Dakota if I have to. And that is Texas getting some support from other state governors, all Republicans, saying you have the right to put the own Constantina wire down, put your own Texas Rangers there, and watch your own border. The problem is, the Border Patrol has been barred from places like Shelby Park. Why? Because they're not enforcing the border.

They're cutting the wire and letting these guys and these families in. And they have had it in Texas. With me right now to talk about this and bring some legal wisdom to it is Lexi Rigdon, attorney and legal analyst, and you've seen her all over the channel. Lexi, welcome back. Thank you.

Good to see you.

So your thoughts about the 25 states backing Texas, is that just a feeling of is that just support or does that matter?

Well, I think Yeah. Legally speaking, I'm not sure if it matters, except for if they're going to be submit, if this ends up getting briefed, they could submit amicus briefs, friends of the court briefs to try to make their own arguments. But I think also just the court of public opinion can't be. Overstated on this, and I dare the Biden administration to actually send people down there to try to cut those wires because that will be all over the news. And people are going to say, What are you doing?

There are people flooding over our borders. It's records. It's undisputed that it's a record amount of people coming over the border.

So I think it would be a really bad look for them. I'm not sure that they'll actually do it, but they do so many dumb things that they might. I don't know.

Right. So if they do that, they say you could nationalize the Texas National Guard. You could walk up to them and said, You're now federal officers. Right. See that happening?

That would be insanity. It would be insanity. It's a constitutional crisis because you have a state's right to protect itself from a quote unquote invasion, and then you have the federal government who has an obligation to protect the border. And so if you have the federal government that doesn't want to, and the state wants to, then I mean, it's a mess and it's unprecedented. Here's what John Kirby said when asked: cut four.

Give me a minute. Considering federalizing the Texas National Guard? About this the other day. I don't have any decisions with respect to that to speak to for the President. It would be a radical move for sure.

It would be a radical move. And you know what? They might as well continue to do nothing because it's not really stopping anybody anyway. They're finding other ways in. They're coming in anyway.

I mean, so it's like they might as well just. If they want this influx of people or they at least don't care, they're going to turn a blind eye, continue doing what you're doing because it's working. They're all coming over.

So, today with the Eugene Carroll case is going on, this is the last day, right? Closing arguments took place. Yeah. I've been here. What could you tell our audience happen in this civil trial?

And when do you think we're going to get a verdict? And it really is how much the former president owes her, right? Right. Trump walked out during the closing arguments, I guess.

Something, I mean, he's done that before. I mean, he walked out yesterday mumbling something about, you know, this isn't America. Exactly.

So I'm not certainly not surprised by that. But they're just waiting on a jury to determine what the damages are. And I think he's going to have to pay because they're not allowed to consider liability. They're not supposed to go in there and say, well, you know, I really didn't think in the first place that he did it because that wasn't their role.

So. They had an expert testify, the plaintiffs, about what it cost her and reputation if she were gonna try to get her reputation back, to try to have some type of actual number to go with in terms of a jury awarding. But I think that the real problem is the punitives and and if you have an unfavorable jury pool who knows he's a rich guy. Sky's the limit. Ten million should be it, right?

That's all they asked for. I think they asked for ten million in compensatory. I don't I don't know if they asked for more in punitives, but ten million, more than ten million, a little less is still still a lot of money.

So even for him, I'm sure he will appeal it. I'm sure he will appeal. Before he writes a check, there'll be an appeal. Yeah, I think he even put the money that he owed from the sexual assault liability finding into escrow while it's being appealed. I don't think he's actually paid it.

So, with this, it'd probably be the same thing. Alvin Bragg says he's getting his case ready for some time in the spring. No one thought it was the case, but with the delay now trying to find out if the president was immune, with the delay in the documents case, because everyone's got to get top-secret clearance in order to review the document to make up a defense. And now, with the Georgia case, which I'm going to get to shortly, a total mess because of the inappropriate actions of the prosecutor and maybe others, now looks like Alvin Bragg's case front and center. Mm-hmm.

This is the weakest case even by people that hate Trump. It is. It's the weakest case. It's the least sexy case, too, because ultimately, it doesn't have that much to do with Stormy Daniels. It's really just about the business record keeping.

And it's funny because. He was the first to indict, and I'm sure he got a kick out of that. That he could be say he was the first guy. And then he said, But you know, we don't have to try it in March. We can, you know, we can wait for the see how the federal cases work out.

Now it's kind of like time's coming up. They're going to be determining next month whether it's going to be tried.

So he may end up actually being first. He's going to be like, well, who's behind me here? And there's nobody because nobody else is ready.

So it. It might be, but you know what? It's just going to galvanize the people that support Trump because this one really does feel like. A silly exercise, like the Letitia James case also. Yeah, but uh before we get to that, uh so Michael Cohen really started this case.

He's saying he used uh campaign money to pay off Stormy Daniels and maybe others in order to, once he became president, to get these cases gone. And you're talking about a lot of years.

So you threw away the statutory limitations in order to bring this case forward. This case was not moving until the White House put one of their counsel people into that, into Bragg's team. And then suddenly Bragg goes, I have a strong case here. Nobody else thought that. Right.

I know. Nobody else thought it. And it's kind of a footnote now. After four indictments in five months, that one was huge news when it came out because it was the first time. And then when they kept coming out, it's like, oh, that one.

You know, it's like the Georgia one is big and the Jack Smith DC one is big, but this is just kind of a sideshow, I think. The other civil trial that's going to be coming front and center is Letitia James and saying that not only does the president owe $200 million, $250 million, now she wants $370 million. And she wants to bar him from ever working in real estate in New York again.

So have they put, from what you could tell, have they put together the type of case that might be effective in stopping Trump? Is this a fait de compli as the judge basically says this guy's a fraud before the trial started?

Well, Angeron is not. Trump's fan, to put it mildly, and he's the trier of fact here. There's no jury, so he's going to be making the decision.

So I am going to assume that he's going to just try to slam him every way he can. I mean, that'll obviously be appealed also, but I think it's a problem for Trump, but it's much less of a problem than his criminal cases. And I saw a clip that you did on One Nation where she's, you know, we're going to get Trump. She's practically campaigning on it. And they've argued this was a victimless crime.

We paid all of our debts. The banks made a ton of money. You're just looking into us because our last name is Trump. Right. And she basically ran on.

He's a Democrat, too. I mean, just the way the system works. But then he gets that appeals, he moves on. And then we'll find out about those other cases. Ban, it would be a lot of money.

It always amazed me. And by the way, we're talking to Lexi Rigdon. Lexi, how much money you need to. Fight this.

So if I'm just a civilian and I feel as though I've been unjustly accused, and I want to fight this, there's all the incentive is to cut a deal because you're going to wear me out. I'm no financially, and I'm not guaranteed a victory, even if I am right. A million percent. And most people obviously are not in this boat, but I have, you know, there are so many people, you know, even like the J6 defendants, like they might just at some point have said, you know, fine, uncle, I don't have the money to pay for. you know, a lawyer who's dedicated to my case 24-7 like Trump does.

So, the other case is the Georgia case. I know they're hard to keep straight, but this is important because this is a state case where they charged 17 people in a conspiracy RICO case. A lot of people thought to themselves, including our experts here, like Andrew Murray, Andrew McCarthy, as well as Jonathan Charlie: why are you getting all 17 together? How are you going to make sense of this?

Well, three quickly cut deals because of what I told you. It's not like they have no money, but it's do I want to lose my fortune defending myself here?

So. The former President has joined With Michael Roman's motion seeking the dismissal of the grand jury indictment of the Georgia election interference case. On Fannie Willis, her office and special president, Nathan Wade, and their relationship. It looks like this guy got the job because of their relationship. That's what's alleged.

They don't deny it. And Nathan Wade has done car accidents in the past and divorces. Yet he's gotten paid at least $684,000, maybe more. And two of his invoices show he's collaborating with White House counsel.

Now they want to join and say, throw this out. What's salacious and what is backs Trump's push to toss it? What is just like bad decisions?

Well, I think it's hard to get charges and indictments dismissed. And I think that this is more on the surface. It looks really bad. And Fonnie Willis and her. Crue and Wade would do themselves a favor if he got out of the case because it's a massive distraction and it just undercuts the trust that the people might have in this district attorney's office.

However, I don't necessarily think it's like a legal conflict that would rise to the level of actually dismissing the charges or the indictment. I think it's something that his attorneys and Roman's attorneys had to try. They had to file the motion. They had to make the argument because. There is some merit to it, but ultimately it doesn't mean.

I mean, there are people that agree with the prosecution or and don't agree with the prosecution, but the fact that she's in bed potentially, literally, with the special prosecutor doesn't mean that there was no basis for a grand jury to return an indictment. Would she get exited from the case? That'd be up to the court to decide. I mean, she's clearly not going to. Nathan Wade is not qualified.

They didn't go through the system. He is going on vacation with money ostensibly that he got from taxpayers that he's not qualified to get. And the other thing is it just optics, the way they have denied ever collaborating with the White House, yet they're caught billing their meetings with White House counsel in Athens and another city? It stinks, and it is a very bad look for everybody. And they may be behind the scenes, I doubt it, but dotting their I's and crossing their T's and trying to bring this case forward.

But it doesn't mean that what's going on, this is a sideshow that's eroding kind of like the integrity of what's going on. And she spoke at a church and said, oh, it's because he's black and I'm black, which is horrible. Hogwash. I mean, they're dating. And the fact that she didn't get up, the fact that she used that and didn't get up there and say, all of that is BS.

It didn't happen. She has to use it to play the race card to try to get people to not criticize her. She might as well have just admitted it. There's clearly something going on. Why do you think Trump waited to join?

Roman's case. He waited. Roman bikes, this guy, Mike Roman, who I never heard of. He's one of the seventeen. He goes, I have a huge problem with this.

He found out about it. It all looks like it's 100% true. And then Trump jumps in. Does the dynamics of the former president, the most important person in this case, jumping in, matter? I'm not sure it will legally matter.

I think it matters in terms of bringing this to light. It's much more interesting to people that it isn't some guy that no one's really heard of in this case. It's actually Trump, also. But I think they also didn't know about it. I mean, it was this lawyer, Ashley Merchant, who filed the motion.

Didn't have, I mean, people have attacked it that it doesn't have enough evidence, but they had to unseal the divorce documents. But somehow, she had well-grounded information enough to file something like this.

So I don't think that Trump or his lawyers actually knew about it. Right. Then, when they saw it, they probably went, Oh my god, this is great.

Well, actually, when we come back, I just want your take on this unique story that happened in the UK. We keep hearing about how. Allowing other people from other countries to come into your country without really taking a loyalty test could be a problem. The UK is experiencing that heavily with the Middle East. And now we see with China.

This exchange, I think, is something people should hear. We'll talk about that when we come back on the Brian Kilmeat show, finishing up the week and the hour. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmead. Hey, welcome back, everybody.

This incident happened in the UK, but I think you'll find it of interest. Lexi Rigdon's here, and she's an attorney and legal analyst. Lexi, I know you don't know the INZ of UK law, but I'm pretty sure it's a free country. You're right. Right?

So, we have this guy in a mall who does this for a living. He'll play. He's a great piano player, it seems to my amateur ears. And he likes to play in public places. They tape it and they put it on YouTube and they make money.

So, these three Chinese students come by, or four or five, we don't know, but they look to be in their 20s. And they say this: just listen to this exchange.

So basically um we will much appreciate it when you are whatever you're doing that you don't put our face on on on on T V.

So what what will happen is I will really appreciate that. We will be just very sensitive about this. I'm really really sorry. But we love your music. We wouldn't want to stay here for a lot longer.

I mean the only thing is it's just it's just like there's other people filming as well. And that's absolutely fine. That's the other people's business. They can make their own decisions. That's absolutely fine.

So how come Seven is the only issue? It's just not us please. Yeah, that's just the relationship between you and me. You and us basically. What relationship?

Just.

Now We are very so I'm gonna repeat that all of us we cannot share our images online.

So these Chinese students holding Chinese flags. Saying we can't share our images online. What if legally? From what you know. Can you stop someone from putting their phone up and taping themselves?

And if someone's caught in the background, they're caught in the background. I think i in America, you have no right to privacy if you're wherever they were and somebody's playing piano in public. And so you no, no, I don't mean right to privacy, no expectation of privacy. You know you're in a public place. And so there's really no issue with doing it.

Walk out of the frame. The real question is, what are they so afraid of? Who are they? And why are they so afraid? And it's funny because most people in the West are dying to be on TikTok, Instagram.

They want their faces out there everywhere. And there's some reason that this is potentially like a cultural issue for them, which is exactly kind of what you said, is there's a tension between Unfettered and unregulated immigration, and the way that the culture shifts when people who aren't from an area come in and want to do things their way. Here's more. It doesn't matter. Why are you touching her?

Stop touching her! Don't touch her, please, do not touch her. Please, you are not the same age, please do not touch her. Don't touch her, please don't touch her, please don't. Yeah, don't touch her, don't touch her.

Don't touch her, no, don't shoot me, don't shoot her. Please don't touch her. Please don't touch her. Please don't touch her. So he didn't touch her, by the way.

He said, Look, is that your flag?

So he doesn't get it. They're still rolling on it. And finally, this. This is going on your YouTube channel and I don't want it to go on your YouTube channel. Listen, listen.

She's at Kip Kerry, we're in Britain in a public space. We've got three people.

Okay, this is just to explain it. This is the police now in front, trying to tell her, trying to talk to the guy.

Okay, That's what I said. And we're in the free space, in the free country. I'm not causing any trouble. There's an allegation being made, and that's why I'm asking you. What's the allegation?

Now, you told me to stop filming, and now you say there's an allegation. The camera never lies. That's why I filmed camera. You told me to turn off my camera, and now you're saying I've got now. The reason why I'm asking you not to film is because I know that you are putting this on your YouTube channel.

It doesn't matter where it goes, we're in a free country. What's your reaction? That they've called way more attention to themselves by causing a confrontation as opposed to just getting out of the frame. I'm not sure who they were worried about. Maybe it was the principle of the thing.

Maybe they were actually worried about somebody seeing it, but now people are seeing it where they wouldn't have been before. Right. And it's over 7 million hits. We know in China, they say you're taped everything you do, and you get a loyalty. I think they have to use a better word than that, a patriotic score.

And you can't get certain jobs if you don't, if your hands are back, don't go to school, whatever it is, or if you're caught doing something unsavory. That's insane. But when they bring their mores to our shores, that's a bigger deal. That's right. And that's why people don't want refugees from certain countries that are hostile to America and people flooding across the border that don't share our cultural.

Lifestyle and views.

So, uh Lexi Rigdon, we're going to have to use you throughout this election season because we know Donald Trump is looking at 91 charges, at least four major indictments that could result in his arrest. Besides that, I don't really see any reason to interpret the law.

Meanwhile, I've got to urge everybody to watch One Nation this weekend. Amongst my guests will be Eric Trump. It'll be Greg Jay Glazer will break down the NFL playoffs, the Taylor Swift phenomenon, and the whole cast of the Ruthless podcast. All of them that bring us inside Washington and why Nikki Haley is right or not right to stay aboard. Does it hurt or help Donald Trump?

You'll be shocked by what they have to say, and Jamie Lissow will close the show. That's coming up 9 o'clock on Saturday night. I hope everyone's there. BrianKillme.com doing any of my books. Thanks, Lexi.

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