Biden spins tall tales, insinuates Trump is a racist at famed church in SC

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. All right, everyone. Thanks so much for being here. We've got a big Tuesday show.

I mean, think about it. The President of the United States back in court. He's trying to say he was immune on January 6th. You cannot prosecute him for things he did as president. He also put out the veiled threat, and I'll paraphrase: hey, if you go ahead and try to prosecute me for what I was doing as president, keep in mind when I become president, Joe Biden is fair game.

The way what he's done with the border, the way he's used in his words, Donald Trump's words, he's used the Department of Justice to go after him. It's going to come right back at you. And That's a little about what's going on. Also, when it comes to the Donald Trump court cases, listen to this: this Georgia prosecutor. There's Fanny Willis.

She turns out she is having an affair with a married guy, now divorced. I guess they're going through divorce proceedings, who's a special prosecutor, who was hired to look into Donald Trump and any type of election shenanigans. He was paid $653,000. From the state of Georgia to do that special prosecuting while they're having a relationship. Does any of this seem ethical to you?

Oh, some of that money used to go on a Caribbean vacations, other vacations over to Europe and other places with the with this woman.

So now this former executive with the Trump administration, Michael Romans, is filing a suit just to dismiss the whole thing of just corruption in some legal terms.

So this is getting interesting. As interesting as The caucus that's taking place. As interesting as New Hampshire the following week, which will be in New Hampshire with the show. We'll be in there. Monday?

Tuesday of the primary. And I think, Allison, you think we'll be there Wednesday too? Or we'll be coming back afterwards? Kind of interesting. I'm not sure, but the impact is substantial.

Quick note. I saw the Boston Globe poll. It's got to be somewhat alarming to President Trump. Because in New Hampshire, he's now down to single-digits lead over Nikki Haley. Why is that?

Without a Democratic primary, independents, undecided, unregistered party people are allowed to vote in the primary in which you want. You just can't vote in both.

So there's no competition. Joe Biden's not even registered to go in New Hampshire. He wanted to have the first primary be South Carolina.

So all these undecideds, these undeclareds, seem to be going for Haley big time.

So it is now a s uh she has picked up seventeen points.

So she's within single digits of Donald Trump.

Now he is up 41 to 26 nationally in the same poll. And it looks as though I haven't seen any poll that shows Ron DeSantis even that close to him.

So we'll see where we'll see how that goes. It should be interesting. Uh uh 2024. Probably the most disturbing thing that I've seen outside of Friday speech was Joe Biden's speech yesterday. He goes to an AME church in South Carolina, the site of a horrific 2015 racially inspired shooting by this guy, Dylan Roof.

Remember him? He's in life for prison, just walked in, invited into a church, just starts shooting people because they're black. He goes in there and pretends as if he's some crazy radical activists. He actually declares in one statement you're about to hear that he founded the civil rights movement. He says he's been in more AME churches than most black people.

Really? This is an unbelievable amount of rewriting his own past again.

So, Joe Biden using this time, South Carolina, going to Valley Forge, democracy at stake, the former president's a Nazi. Cut one. We saw something on January 6th we'd never seen before, even during the Civil War. Insurrectionists waving Confederate flags inside the halls of Congress built by enslaved Americans. A mob attacked and called black officers, black veterans defending the nation those vile of racist names.

And yet An extreme movement of America, the MAGA Republicans. led by a defeated president, is trying to steal history now. They tried to steal an election.

Now they're trying to steal history. What are you talking about? If you want to know about history, it was the Democratic Party that was the segregationist who gave us the Jim Crow laws, who made up predominantly of the Confederacy. Do you understand that? Does he understand that?

Your good buddy, the former grand wizard of the KKK, during your formidable days in the 70s and 80s, was Senator Byrd. You spoke at his funeral. You're the one with a past that's got to be explained. Number one, number two. But the Congress built by enslaved Americans, really?

That was necessary to add? Slavery was around when these walls were built. They were burned to the ground later in Washington in the War of 1812. But President Biden using this to go to an AME church at the site of a horrific shooting to continue to say, look at how positive my campaign's going to be. And are you saying the MAGA Republicans?

An extreme movement in America, the MAGA Republicans, led by a defeated president, the MAGA Republicans, or the people that voted for Donald Trump, are 70 million. Nice unifying. 70 million, many of which would vote for Nikki Haley. were Ron DeSantis, and they all agree in the Make America Great. Attitude and mantra.

I don't know what you're talking about. Here's more from President Biden. Cut to. On June 17, 2015. the beautiful souls, five survivors and five survivors.

invited a stranger to this church. to pray with them. The word of God was pierced by bullets in hate, of rage. Propelled by Not just gunpowder. but by a poison, Poison us for too long.

Haunted this nation. What is that poison? White supremacy. Oh it is, it's a poison. What's wrong with you?

This is the inspirational campaign we can expect for the nine months. Totally irresponsible. No wonder President Trump is surging. No wonder Nikki Haley wins by seventeen points and Trump's up by four or five. Listen, we come back, Tony Robinson going to be joining us.

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If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. All right, we are back. We are talking about Tony Robbins. He's got a new book coming out called The Holy Grail of Investing: The World's Greatest Investors Reveal Their Ultimate Strategies.

He's also all pumped up because he's about to roll out the Time to Rise Summit. And this Time to Rise Summit could change your life. You could sign up for it every day for about two hours. You're going to get details on how to fire yourselves up. It's not there just to give rhetoric.

It's not there to talk in general. It's not a matter of just getting your mindset. It's a matter of getting an action plan. That's what Tony Robbins is all about. He's a personal development expert.

He's a multi-talented bestseller, entrepreneur, philanthropist. And as I mentioned, he's got this new book coming out soon. Tony, welcome back to the Brian Killmeat Show. Thanks, Brian. You're the hardest working guy in media.

I just was with you and rocked over. You're in the morning, you're in the night. I don't know when you sleep, brother. Hey, listen, I had six minutes off. I'm ready to go.

Uh but Tony, you should be talking. You already told me am I if I could break this news, you've already jumped into your plunge pool, right? I sure as heck did. Freezing was born in. Right.

But you seem to. Do you get used to that?

Well, no, you never get used to it. You never, but you train yourself not to negotiate with yourself. You don't go, okay, well, wait till I'm ready. You just go, I go, go, and you go to your mind. And it helps because when you've done that with your mind there, it works with other areas of your life as well.

You know, and the thing is, for everybody right now, don't get mad at yourself. Most people do not follow through with their resolutions. And most of the reasons is because you don't have a good enough why. Why are you looking to change things? Why are you looking to better in this area?

Lose weight, whatever, get a better job, whatever it is. It's all about the action plan.

So, can we motivate people for the next 90 seconds and tell people don't get down on yourself, but don't drop the resolutions yet? Yeah, well, most people have already broken them, unfortunately, Brian. 91% of people never fulfill them. And the reason you led on to it really importantly, most people speak, this is what I want, but they don't really have a resolution. When you resolve something, you cut off any possibility except following through.

And so people don't do that because, as you said, they're missing strong enough reasons. It's one thing to say, I want to do something, but why? The why will push you through when it's difficult. But besides the why, the reasons help you get up with answers. You also need to have the right rituals.

In other words, the right plan, or it's not going to work. And so, you know, you have all these goals, but without the right rituals, my goal is to lose 20 pounds. And I get up every morning, go to Starbucks, and have a mocha, smoke, and something. It's not going to work.

So what I've done for the last, gosh, it's been four years since COVID. I saw people trapped in their homes, and I thought, how do I help people?

So once a year, I do this free seminar. It's absolutely no charge. We have a million and a half people participated last year from 195 countries. And it's called Time to Rise Summit. And it's just two and a half hours a day, roughly.

Instead of going to a meeting, Movie, you work on your life for three days in a row, January 25th to the 27th. And we show you how to build a real plan, like a pathway to transform your body, to transform your energy, to change your business, change your finances. And because people can attend anywhere in the world from their home and their office and with their friends, it's been unbelievably popular. As I mentioned to you, we've had, like, I just talked to a guy the other day that just got out of prison last year. And, you know, he's driving a truck, can't see his daughter.

He'd been quite, you know, difficult with women. And so he wasn't able to see his daughter. Transformed it. It's been less than a year since he went to this program. He did it sitting in his truck and had this experience.

And now he's got coaching. He's turned around other people. He's got a chance.

Now he's got to see be with his daughter on a regular basis. I had a guy that was 700 pounds. Matt Tinzi's his name. He literally was trapped in bed for six years, on oxygen, unable to move, unable to get out of bed. He went through the program.

I worked with him through the Zoom process that we did here. And he lost 310 pounds to give you an idea. Transformed his life, driving a car now, got his job now, moving things happen, people growing their businesses. And it all comes out of just three little days. You say, I'm going to commit two and a half, three hours a day, 2 p.m.

Eastern, January 25th to the 27th, no charge. All people got to do is go to Time to Rise Summit, the Summit, TimetoriseSummit.com and get themselves registered, and I can serve them on January 25th to the 27th.

So the guy that popped up on television in the 1980s and I bought your cassette tapes then. How did you work to improve yourself, even though you have to have all this success? Did you have to change your message, build on your message? If I put those tapes on today, do you subscribe to everything you were talking about then? And have you improved on it?

Yeah, I think if you talk to anybody who's followed me over the last, this will be my 47th year coming up, it's pretty wild. The stuff I did originally is still truth is truth, but there's just I've gotten deeper. I have more tools, more skills. Look, I run today, you know, 111 companies. We do $7 billion in business.

I certainly didn't have those skills in those days. And my skills to help someone go from where they are to where they want to be financially, for example, I didn't have the skills. But I got them because I interviewed starting more more than a decade and a half ago. 50 of the greatest investors in history, from Warren Buffett to Ray Dalio to Carl Icahn. Many have become friends of mine.

And I've written three, three number one best sellers in a row, two of these financial books. And now I've got this third financial book, The Holy Grail of Investing, just based on what I learned from Ray Dalio, the most successful investor, hedge fund investor ever. He manages $195 billion. And he taught me how to get greater returns with less risk, which is the Holy Grail. That's what he calls it.

And so he'll explain in the book how anybody can do it. You know, you're probably aware, Brian, that some of the best investments in the world are the investments that come from private equity. For the last 35 years, Every year, like clockwork, private equity outdoes the public markets. I'll give you an example. Most people are familiar with the SP 500, the top 500 companies that you can invest in.

Well, five of those companies are 25% of the whole value of all 500, and there's only 3,600 companies you can invest in. But in private equity, they take a company, there's more than 100,000 companies that do 100 million to 3 billion, they grow those businesses and either take them public or sell them, and their profitability is insane.

So here's an example: the SP 500. You'd make 9.2% a year. That allows you to compound your money or double it about every eight years. That's pretty awesome. But if you've done it in private equity in the same time, it's 14.2% a year.

50% better every year compounded. What does that mean? It means if you put a million dollars in the stock market way back 35 years ago and never touched it, you'd have 26 million. If you took the same million and put it aside in private equity, it's worth $139 million. The problem is.

Only wealthy people used to have access. But the reason I wrote the book is Congress, the House, just passed the laws that allow you to not have to have $1 million and $200,000 net worth to become what they call an accredited investor. They just passed, now the Senate's taking it up. It's bipartisan, looks like it's going to pass, where anyone can learn, take a little test, and then you have access to these investments that far outproduce anything else. That doesn't stop you from investing in the stock market or real estate, but it allows you to have some investments that aren't correlated.

So when the market goes down, it doesn't affect you at the same level and a way to get your goals so much faster financially.

So I interviewed 13 of the smartest people in private equity, private credit, private real estate, which sound complex. But I show people how you can actually not just get those funds, it's hard to get in the best funds, but how you can actually own a slice of those companies, or a slice of your best sports team to give you an idea of another one, or a slice of these companies that do private credit where people in 2021 were buying junk bonds to try and get 3.9%.

Now we can get five on bonds. But guess what? Those are really risky. I was getting 9% on private credit and they have less than 1% fallout. Banks would die for that.

So that's where people get their money today because the banks are so tight. Businesses get it there and you get tremendous profitability, two to three times more than you do with bonds.

So it's not as liquid. It's tied up for a period of time. But the best investors in the world have 46% of their money in private credit, private equity, and private real estate to give you an idea. Only 29% in the public market.

So you learn by the best. That's what they're doing. And I interview those people in this book as well and show you what they do. All of these people, by the way, have done 20% or more over decades. If you can imagine the difference, you double your money every three and a half years as opposed to double.

Your money, like say at 5%, where it takes 14 years.

So, this can make the difference between really retiring with plenty of capital or not. And you talk about it, Ray Dalio is one of the driving forces behind it.

So I just want to know you follow the news, you really care about the country. What worries you most as we get set for this election season?

Well, I think we're all concerned about the level of division, obviously, in the country and the level of upset. Like whoever wins half the country is going to be unhappy. But I think we've thrown our pendulum so far in one direction. I think people the quiet middle is going to express itself. And I think this will be a really interesting election.

I think there's no question it's going to be contentious. But I think also, you know, sometimes you have to go to extremes in order to find the balance. You know, I think that's what's going to probably come out of this. But I don't think we're there yet, Brian. I think it's going to take a little bit before that happens.

This is what I'm hearing most, especially since the pandemic. I have a job, I have a family, but what's my purpose? Especially people listening to us right now in their 20s and 30s. When people walk up to Anthony Robbins, I know you can't even go shopping without people asking you for advice, and they say, I don't have a purpose. What's my purpose?

What do you tell them? I tell them, you know, you have more than one purpose. The people searching for one ideal purpose are always stressed out. Is this really my purpose? This is what I'm about.

You have many purposes at different times. Better question to ask yourself is what do I really want? You know, I think you were mentioning the other day that if you study all the great stories of humanity, the most common story, as I'm sure you know, is the story of the hero.

Somebody's life is going along just fine, and then something disrupts it.

Somebody gets ill, somebody dies, you know, COVID happens, something. And what that is, is life calling you to step out of your comfort zone and retool and grow. And the people that take that call on and do that. They go on a new journey. They have to figure out what to do after COVID.

They have to figure out what to do in their business or finances. And if they push through and meet new mentors and new relationships and Fight new fights, and they eventually slay the dragon if they keep pushing through, and they come back to hero their own life.

So the steps. People are listening, it's like, okay, if I want my better finances, or if I want, you know, a better relationship, or if I want more energy in my life. Let me start with: am I on the path or not? And the way you know is the first step to every path. Is when you get disrupted, your brain develops some hunger or desire, meaning what do you really want and why do you want it?

And you've got to be very specific. Not I want more money, fine, here's a dollar, get out of here, you're there. I wanna lose some weight. No, I wanna lose 12 pounds of fat. And here's why, that's the most important thing.

Because you've got strong enough reasons, you'll follow through.

Now, once you know what you want, the next step on the path is to find and face the truth. which means you got to figure out what's the gap. Between where I am and where I want to be, and most importantly, why in the past have I not followed through? And you're going to discover there's only five reasons: fear, fear of failure, success, rejection, loneliness. Second one is.

People have limiting beliefs. Like, you know, oh, gosh, I've tried everything. That's why I can't lose weight. Once you believe that, you don't try anything anymore. Anthony Robbins, something's happening to me now.

It happens to you. I'm up against a hard break. Time to Rise Summit is go find it at TimeToriseSummit.com. That's correct. I'm coming for free, and you can do it with your family, from your home, or from your office.

Love to have you all. We'll make a difference together. You'll have an audience of a million people. You'd be connected to around the world. And the Holy Grail of Investing.

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to incentivize non-citizens to use lawful pathways. to impose consequences on those who do not. We will continue to to enforce the law. Nobody believes that. And Alejandro Mayerkis, who said a horrifying number to Brett Baer, 70% of the people that cross get in.

Do you know what he said behind closed doors yesterday? Bill Malusian found out because he's got so many sources to Porter Patrol.

Sources told Bill Malusian. who uh people that were in the room when they were meeting with Mayorkas at Eagle Pass uh in the Eagle Pass area. Mayorkis admitted that the current release rate for migrants crossing the border illegally is Above Eighty-five percent.

So if you get there, you're in. What do you think that does for the people that want to come here from Africa, from Cuba, from Slovakia, from Afghanistan, from Ukraine? Not a race thing, not a poverty thing. This is not your country. That's not how a country operates.

This is the breaking point for everybody because if you look at the stats, over 70% of Americans look at this as a crisis at the border. That number in past years has been around 45%, broken on party lines. Colonel Alan West, American Constitutional Rights Union Executive Director, joins us now. Former congressman from Florida, spent decades in the Army. Colonel, welcome back.

It's good to be back with you, Brian, and happy new year to you, my friend. That number did not surprise you when he told Brett Baer 70%. I thought that was high. And then he didn't walk back and said he didn't say it. He said it fluctuates when pressed about what you said behind closed doors, it fluctuates.

Well, look, this is a person that is deceiving the American people on purpose and intentionally. And he also said that the whole thing behind this illegal immigration crisis is climate change.

So, for the people that are up there in Iowa and what have you going through this winter blizzard, let's see if they just pack up and try to go down to Argentina or Brazil and if they are allowed in. But Mayorkas is someone that, without a doubt, in complete violation of his constitutional duty and responsibility. He's supposed to be the Secretary of our Homeland Security. And what he is doing is allowing for the insecurity of our homeland by allowing terrorists to come in. I don't think he even addressed the issue of the quote-unquote gotaways.

But when you are just allowing people to come in and resettle anywhere in the United States of America, and you're giving them these permission slips that says, oh, please, can you come back in six or seven years for a hearing? That's not how we keep our country secure. That means that we are undermining our sovereignty and we're undermining this representative democracy. But, Colonel, listen to this. This is what he always says when pressed.

Cut 13. We need Congress to provide the supplemental funding that President Biden requested months ago. We need more border patrol agents and more case processors so that the agents can be out in the field. doing the heroic work that is their fundamental mission.

Okay, the problem is he asked for $14 billion, $2 billion for security. $2 billion for security. And you know how long it takes to train a border agent? It takes months to train a border agent. This is a crisis now.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. And the thing is that first and foremost, there has to be a policy change. Go back to the remain in Mexico policy. Get rid of the catch and release policy. Tell the ICE agents that they can go back to doing what they're supposed to do: deportations.

The Biden administration last year had one of the lowest. deportation rates of any of the previous administrations that we've seen on the issue. Yeah, one of the worst. And so this is not about throwing more money at it. And the thing is, if we had more agents out in the field instead of doing all of this caretaking and processing of illegals, I think that it would rectify itself.

All right, so they're working on a bill in the Senate. And it looks like they had some optimism. It might be dissipating now. Senator Lankford's leading it. Nobody thinks Lankford's a moderate, by the way.

So Lankford's leading, but he's just a quality individual. A Lankford cinema And Senator Murphy of Connecticut.

Now, they're going to get rid of catch and release. They're going to reform parole. They're going to no longer allow, they change the rules for asylum. No longer can you say, I feel under threat. It's going to take extreme proof to do it, and you get sent back to your own country until you put together that proof.

But that's not good enough for Chip Roy. He's one of these people that says he can't go for it. Cut 17. Yeah. Understand how we can spend.

$60 billion over the Pelosi omnibus spending levels and pat ourselves on the back. All right, I'm sorry, that was the wrong soundbite. But he came out and said, nothing but everything on HR2 or bust. And HR2 is building the wall, getting absolutely everything because it can be no holes. If there's one hole, they might as well be holes.

Do you understand that mindset? I do understand the mindset. And I think that Chip Roy being a representative from the state of Texas, where he is seeing on the ground what is happening to ranchers. He is seeing what is on the ground is happening to communities. When you have ranchers that are being told that they cannot do anything about people transiting across their property, destroying their property, coming up to their homes in the middle of the night, this is a dire situation.

And I think that we have to start from a position of strength that says we're constitutionally mandated to protect and secure our border, to not allow people to come in illegally. And we cannot start from a position of weakness.

So I think that's what Chip Roy wants to see.

So the other major story is our Secretary of Defense, a general A general has decided to go take surgery, not tell anybody. It has complications. He's got to go back to the hospital, doesn't tell anybody. He goes into intensive care. It's not related to his chief of staff, not relayed to his deputy, not relayed to the president, not to relate to the National Security Advisor, not relayed to the Secretary of State.

Keep in mind, we got a bit of a hot war with the Houthi rebels shelling us on a daily basis. Our guys have been hit over 100 times in Iraq alone. Listen to Michael Waltz, cut 21. This was an utter breakdown in the chain of command, and it's a total dereliction of duty. Let me tell you where this is so dangerous, as you were alluding to.

In our nuclear command and control posture, if an adversary launches a nuclear ICBM, we have 15 minutes to determine whether the United States is targeted, how it's being targeted, or whether it's some type of test. The National Command Authority gets on the line with the Commanding General of NORAD, and the Secretary of Defense makes a recommendation to the Commander-in-Chief of whether we respond in kind with launching our own nuclear triad and our own nuclear missiles. Can you imagine this? I mean, do you have you ever heard of anything like this in your life in the history of this country? No, absolutely not.

But let me put this in a better frame of reference. I served at Fort Bragg at the same time that Colonel Lloyd Austin was at Fort Bragg. He was a brigade commander at the 3rd Brigade of the 82nd Airborne Division.

Now, if Colonel Austin had one of his subordinate battalion commanders who all of a sudden took off, did not tell anybody where he was, and then the executive officer of that battalion commander was out of the country, I guarantee you Colonel Austin would have relieved that battalion commander of command and probably would have relieved and reprimanded the executive officer as well.

So what's the difference here? You cannot basically go AWOL, not let your superiors know where you are, what is going on. And truthfully, this is a dereliction of duty. This is a very serious offense. But of course, you hear all the excuses coming from the left.

You hear all the excuses coming from Crane Jean-Pierre and the National Security Speaker. Spokesperson, but if this were the Trump administration, I can guarantee you, Brian, you know very well they will be calling for the removal of whoever his Secretary of Defense was. Hey, you know what they'd be saying? Showing that Donald Trump cannot run the White House. Nobody respects him at the Pentagon.

If they could have trusted him, they were afraid of what he was going to do, so they didn't want to let him know the Secretary of Defense wasn't there to regulate him. Can you imagine the crazy rumors that'll be happening? Never happened before in the history of our country, only since Donald Trump took office. And I'll build it out even further. Think about this: we are looking at a war between the states because of illegal immigration, thanks to your governor, Governor DeSantis, especially, who was just saying, My illegal immigrant problem is a national problem.

Deal with it. And he sent them to Washington, Chicago, and most of all, New York. And then it became a national problem.

Now we've got governors suing mayors and mayors suing states and bus companies. And they'd be saying Donald Trump's presidency actually has a mini civil. civil war happening inside our country. Not Joe Biden's White House, who does nothing about this, doesn't even try to referee it, won't even take the Democratic side on it.

Well, amazing to me when Donald Trump was there as president, everyone thought that you have a right to be a sanctuary city. You have a right to allow illegal immigrants into your area or even be a sanctuary state. But now, all of a sudden, these people that have declared themselves to be sanctuary states and sanctuary cities, They're upset because now illegals are showing up there.

So you can't have it both sides. And this is the hypocrisy that is completely laughable. But this is why this is such an important election cycle because we see who the left is. And when you look at the polling, Joe Biden is failing on every single policy that is important to the United States of America and is important to the American people. He went to a South Carolina church yesterday, the site of a horrific shooting, race-related by Dylan Roof, that racist killer who opened up fire and African Americans who invited him into a church.

Horrible. Why he wants to build his campaign around that shooting is beyond me. But he wants to say that the guy who I told you was a Nazi Friday on Friday is also worthy of being a member of the KKK. Listen to him, cut one. We saw something on January sixth we'd never seen before, even during the Civil War.

Insurrectionists waving Confederate flags inside the halls of Congress built by enslaved Americans. A mob attacked and called black officers, black veterans defending the nation those vile of racist names. And yet an extreme movement of America, the MAGA Republicans. led by a defeated president. is trying to steal history now.

They tried to steal an election.

Now they're trying to steal history. Should we get the history right and talk about the what party gave us segregation and the Confederacy? Yeah. Yeah, that would be a good one. It was the the Democrat Party and they were also the Democrat Party that did not support the thirteenth, fourteenth, or fifteenth Amendments.

So the Democrats did not support ending slavery. They did not support Recently freed slaves becoming citizens and getting the right to vote.

So there you go, Joe. And they were also the party that started the Ku Klux Klan. But isn't it interesting that the president who in his inauguration speech talks about unity, if you listen to him now, and especially in these last few days, he's not talking about unity. He's talking about divisiveness. And really, since he can't talk about his issues and his policies, he's just going back to talk about demonizing one part of this country and calling them something insurrection insurrectionist, which no one has been charged with.

And again, you look at the misuse of the 14th Amendment, Section 3, by the Colorado Supreme Court, by the Maine Secretary of State. They're doing everything that they possibly can to demonize, denigrate, and disparage. You know, you've been making a mistake. You've been giving Martin Luther King Jr. too much credit for the Civil Rights Movement, and you have it wrong.

The guy who started the Civil Rights Movement, his name was Senator Joe Biden. Remember this? I was talking downstairs. I've spent more time in uh the uh Bethel AME Church in Wilmington, Delaware then I have uh than most people I know, black or white, have spent that church. Because that's what I started a civil.

No, I'm serious. I started a civil rights movement. I used to go to 7:30 Mass. Then I go to ten o'clock. Clear ten o'clock service is The Reverend who was I remember the church is now the bishop.

She's a bishop. What's he even talking about? I mean, I'm sure that they can't back that up. And number one, he started the civil rights movement. Yeah.

Well, he can't back it up. But again, think about this. This is the exact same guy who stood beside and eulogized Senator Robert Byrd, who was a member of the Ku Klux Klan there in West Virginia. And Senator Robert Byrd was one of those senators, Democrat senators, who were part of the longest filibuster in U.S. Senate history, and that was Democrats filibustering against.

the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Yeah. It's just unbelievable that he gets away with this. And to sit in a black church and go and rip the people.

Now, by the way, MAGA Republicans, Make America Great. Anyone who has that hat or has an ornament on their Christmas tree, he's saying a raging racist with most of the 73 million that voted for him. These are extremists. Do you realize if Trump wins, you think the country is divided now? When he's done with speeches like this over the course of ten months, people will be convinced that if Trump's elected President, he becomes a dictator like Napoleon, and well, all our rights are going to be gone.

That's the type of country he's going to be either running or relinquishing.

Well, you've heard that coming from the left, that Trump's a dictator. If he gets back in, he's going to punish his enemies, which is something that Barack Obama said. He's going to execute people, all of these things. And again, this goes to the politics of division. This goes to the politics of derision and the politics of the character assassination of, what, half of this country almost, because they don't believe in the progressive socialist leftist ideology.

It's nuts. And by the way, you want to know why he's doing this? Because he went from 80% plus percent support for the black community, now it's in the 60s. And he's losing the Hispanic vote.

So all he could do, instead of trying to win them over with his policies, he's just trying to try to humiliate them by letting them know that when they lose when they don't support him, they're on the other side of racists. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West, thanks so much. It's always a pleasure. Thank you, Brian. You got it.

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Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Right now, they're working on the appropriations bill.

They're having a fight about it. Are you worried about the open border? Yeah. You know, I mean, you know, every country's got to say they have a secure controlled border. I'm not in government, but and you've had in the past senators from both sides.

and maybe some House members work out deals. We need security at the border. Jamie Dimon of J.P. Morgan Chase, safely in New York, probably owns an island of his own. as saying that for the economy and maybe for the country, Let's just look hard numbers.

What are you thinking, America? Joe Biden, what are you thinking? How do you go on vacation for three weeks with this border collapsing every day? You say, well, I put out a plan in the beginning. No one ever talked about it.

You had your own Congress. You had the majority there. Your own Senate, the majority there. Why weren't you trying to sell that immigration plan that sucks? Number two is you say, well, I want $14 billion for the border in an emergency session.

You know how much money was actually going to border security? $2 billion. You know how much money was going to. There's NGOs and the soft-sided facilities, almost all of it. And some of the transportation to get them into these cities and the food and accommodations and the placement, all of it.

Why would a Republican sign off on that? Your bad policies. All you want to do is treat the bad policies. Republicans want to fix the bad policies. They don't want to end immigration.

They want to organize it. This is not organized. Nobody hates people from Ukraine. Afghanistan, Slovenia, Russia. Liberia.

120 separate countries.

So if you say, well, if you want to crack down on the border, you're bigoted. I'm what? On everybody? I mean, it's hard to really categorize who's coming through the border. They're coming from the South, but they're not from the South.

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Get a lot of pushback from Republicans.

Now that's what Senator Lankford's feeling on the Senate side as he tries to get something done on immigration. Brad Milter, the bottom of the owl, the best-selling author, got the incredible history series for kids. It's on a big anniversary. His latest book is I Am Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And then Varney and Company at 45 After we'll do a simulcast.

Michelle Obama made some news by saying why she's terrified.

So that's going on. The President of the United States, we saw his SUV caravan go into court because he wants to be there as his lawyers make the case that he should be immune from all prosecution when it comes to January 6th and just about everything else because he was president at the time.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. That strike in Baghdad that killed the Iranian leader was at noon local time on January 4th, last Thursday. Right, so Baghdad corresponds to 4 a.m. D.C.

time, which means Joe hadn't been notified of the fact that Secretary Austin was out of commission.

So, who's making that call? Is it the second in command in Puerto Rico on vacation on a secure Zoom? But she didn't even know she was in command and evidently she was sick. Secretary Austin's atrocious decision to keep his grave medical condition secret. He's still in the hospital.

Should he be fired? He won't be. But what it exposes is beyond disturbing for our country, showing an administration adrift with no one at the wheel. Number two. We are doing everything we can.

within a broken system. to incentivize noncitizens to use lawful pathways, To impose consequences on those who do not. We will continue to enforce the law. Border has America United. Just about all of us agree.

It's busted and has to be fixed. I know exactly who is to blame. We all know how to fix it. Will this Senate do just that? We should know soon.

Number one. An extreme movement in America, the MAGA Republicans, led by a defeated president, is trying to steal history now. They tried to steal an election.

Now they're trying to steal history. Ugh, what's he talking about? One down. Two to go. Three straight town halls featuring all three top contenders for the Republicans.

It moves to DeSantis tonight as Haley wrapped her impressive showing on Monday. Six days into the Iowa Caucasus, as President Biden goes from calling Trump Hitler to a racist at a famed church in South Carolina while making up tall tales about his past, that he is. A Was the founder of a civil rights movement? Can we hear one of these cots when he makes this ridiculous claim? I was talking downstairs.

I uh I've spent more time in uh The uh Bethel AME church in Wilmington, Delaware, then I have uh than most people I know, black or white, have spent in that church. Because that's where I started a civil. No, I'm serious. I started a civil rights movement. I used to go to 7:30 Mass.

Time to go to ten o'clock. Cl ten o'clock services. The Reverend who was I'm running the church, is now the bishop. She's a bishop. What's he talking about?

I would love to see somebody verify how often they saw him there Sunday nights. Not with his family, not on the beach, but uh Sunday nights at seven and stayed till ten. for a civil rights meeting which evidently he led. Does anyone believe that? Nobody believes that.

And what about how irresponsible it is to come out and your campaign kicks off with Friday's speech saying the president the former president's a Nazi? Literally a Nazi, full Hitler, and then yesterday saying he's a member of the KKK. Incredible. I thought this guy was even pretending, was pretending to be a unifier. I mean, what is your message?

What are you going to do the next four years? All you do is live in fear. You want people to have fear of Donald Trump coming back to power. Cut to. On June 17th, 2015.

The beautiful souls, five survivors and five survivors. invited a stranger to enter this church. to pray with them. The word of God was pierced by bullets in hate and rage. Propelled by Not just gunpowder.

but by a poison. poison us for too long. haunted this nation. What is that poison? White supremacy.

Oh it is, it's a poison. Right. And know what it is? It's, oh my goodness, honey. I'm not getting the black vote I was once getting.

I was once at 80%.

Now I'm in the 60s. I have to go to a black church and tell everybody that Donald Trump. Will poison this country because he's a white supremacist. Because they just did a study on the Pentagon. Remember they said white supremacy rages in the Pentagon?

They did a study. It lasted two and a half years. They released it on a Friday. Michael Waltz picked it up. Do you know what it found?

Nothing. No extremist behavior in the military. Nothing. Even with The investigators from this White House, they found nothing. Nikki Haley, Governor.

In South Carolina. Knows exactly what that hate was about. Horrible as it was, and knows you cannot associate any of the current Republican or Democratic leaders with it. Cut for Biden to show up there and give a political speech. Is offensive in itself.

But the second thing I'll say is, I don't need someone who palled around with segregationists in the 70s and has said racist comments all the way through his career, lecturing me or anyone in South Carolina about what it means to have racism, slavery, or anything related to the Civil War. Don't you think? And then we're talking about the Civil War again.

So it was an impressive display by Nikki Haley. It wasn't meant to grill her. It was meant to tee up, come back with facts on different things that Donald Trump and Ron DeSantis have accused her of. She made a couple of things that where Iowa votes first, New Hampshire corrects it. That's not going to win her votes in Iowa.

Might win people over in New Hampshire. And then she talked about what's the Civil War about. She said it was about freedom and liberty. Yeah, it was about slavery, but you could have started with that and worked her way backwards. And the one thing that President of Trump said that I think it's important to point out: Trump said, you know, in the Civil War, they should have negotiated, then you never would have heard of Lincoln.

Mr. President, you absolutely would have heard of Lincoln. He was an extremely perfect president at the perfect time, at America's time of most need. And the other thing is, he's right about negotiating. President Lincoln was trying to negotiate up until the fighting started.

And he was willing to even let the South keep the slaves if they agreed to talk about how to do this peacefully.

So it wasn't as if the negotiations weren't moving forward, but most of these states have already seceded by the time he got to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, and there was already a failed assassination attempt on him as he took his train to take his job in a very divided America. Michelle Obama spoke yesterday in a podcast. Everyone's saying as bad as Joe Biden is, Michelle Obama would be a layup.

Now, Nikki Haley beats Trump, excuse me, beats Biden by double figures. Last poll, 17 points. But nationally, she's trailing Trump by about 20 points. Michelle Obama would be formidable, almost everybody admits, because she's got no policy and no track record. She's bright and well known, but I'm not sure that we will like any of her policies.

And she is worried about Trump. And in talking to the on the Jay Shetty podcast, she said this: cut seven. What's going to happen in this next election? I am terrified. about what could possibly happen.

Because our leaders matter who we select. Who speaks for us, who holds that bully pulpit? It affects us in ways that sometimes I think people take for granted. You know, the fact that people think that government ah, you know it's is it does it really even do anything? And I'm like, oh my God.

This government does everything for us, and we cannot take this democracy for granted. And sometimes I worry that we do. Those are the things that keep me up.

So, you think she's worried that the President of the United States is circumventing the Supreme Court's decision not to forgive student loans? Is that what she means by democracy being in the balance? Or democracy being that this president has allowed mayors and governors and governors and governors to go at each other because of what's happening with immigration, shipping them to these towns through buses and planes? Is that what she's worried about? No, I think she's worried about Donald Trump getting in office again.

So is her husband, who evidently over the summer met with Joe Biden and was direct in saying you're underestimating the power and popularity of Donald Trump. I'm worried you're not taking it seriously. I'm worried there's not enough people in Delaware who are taking initiative and leadership roles in trying to spread out your message. to fill in the gap. Because you can't.

So racist, if you elect Trump. Nazi, if you elect Trump. Democracy, if you elect Trump, not a guy that's going to reduce taxes, clamp down on The border. Uh make NATO pay their fair share. Go back and try to negotiate more trade agreements that are more tilted towards America, be able to do the best he can to get these interest rates down and inflation continuing to go down, maybe below where it was when he took office.

Not many people are buying the whole I'm going to run on January 6th thing. If you were doing it in November, I would still have doubts. But you're doing it in January. You're going to numb people to all of it. We're going to come back and take Senator John Cornyn on that and his election strategy.

Then at 34 after we talk history, good news on the William Penn take down the statue and rearrange the park in Pennsylvania story. You're listening to the Brian Kill Me Chow. Don't move. Uh Challenging conventional thought and wisdom. You're with Brian Kilmeade.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. We need Congress to provide the supplemental funding that President Biden requested months ago. We need more Border Patrol agents and more case processors so that the agents can be out in the field doing the heroic work that is their fundamental mission. Yeah, but the problem is out of the $14 billion he asked for, only $2 billion goes towards security.

Totally insincere. Senator John Cornyn lives this every day, Texas Senator on Finance, Judiciary and Intelligence Committee. Senator, welcome back. Thanks, Brian. Good to be with you.

Happy New Year. Same to you. It must be so frustrating to hear people play politics instead of making us try to deny the reality we're seeing right now. Mayorka says behind closed doors, 80 plus percent of the illegals that come to our border get in to stay. Told Brett 70%.

He told others even less. What's the reality as you know it?

Well, this is the same guy that swore under oath that the border was secure multiple times. I'm way past done with Secretary Mayorkas. He should have gone a long time ago, and I hope the House proceeds with impeachment proceedings. He is but the truth is he's carrying out policies of the Biden administration, which are open border policies. The reason we see this unprecedented surge of humanity at the border is because of the impression, unfortunately, correct, that if you show up at the border, you're going to be released into the United States, perhaps never to be heard from again.

And that, of course, is a huge welcome mat for people around the world. The only ones really benefiting from this, of course, are the human smuggling networks that are global, who are getting richer by the day, and the drug cartels that are smuggling, taking advantage of the fact that Border Patrol is overwhelmed and smuggling drugs into the United States that killed 108,000 Americans last year alone. It is. inexcusable, and it is a disaster.

So, what happens now? We hear that Senator Langford is working on some type of compromise in your chamber. What have you heard?

Well, I've been in the Senate for a while now, Brian, and we've been talking about these issues with no real result for a long, long time. I think this is an unprecedented opportunity because of the combination of the President's request for assistance for Ukraine, for the Indo-Pacific and for Israel, where I just returned from. We this is a very dangerous world, but we can't address these challenges without addressing the dangers at our own southern border. And I think the Biden administration is finally waking up to the reality that this is not this is politically unsustainable for him and for Democrats. And I think Senator Langford is doing yeoman's work.

I don't think anybody should be under the impression that this is going to make the problem go away overnight. But we can sort of make a down payment and make some incremental steps in the right direction and provide tools that the next President can actually, who's actually willing to enforce the law, can use to deal with the border crisis in the future.

So they want HR2. The House wants HR2. What do you hear that they're willing to do? Asylum changes, parole changes, the wall? Yeah, I'm a supporter of HR two and I Would be happy to pass that in the Senate.

Unfortunately, we don't have 60 votes to do that.

So we're going to try to get as much as we can, get as close as we can to the House's position on that. But the physical barriers, the wall fencing, are an important part of that, making sure that we have more border patrol available. But what we really need to do is begin to send a message that there are consequences to coming to the border illegally. And unfortunately, that means we need to fix the broken asylum system where people just need to say the magic words they've been coached with and then be released and never to have any suffer any consequences if they get turned down, assuming they show up for their court date. But the parole issue is perhaps the most insidious part because even if we fix the asylum system, as long as the Biden administration can release people on so-called parole, this isn't, I mean, it's a little strange, it's a strange word.

Because we think of it in a criminal context, but this basically just means releasing people into the United States, even if they're not claiming asylum.

So this is really, they're using this as a public relations or border management tool to avoid the try to avoid as many bad stories as they can about people being bunched up at the border with no place to go. But yeah, those fixing asylum and fixing parole. And providing the Border Patrol both the people and the physical barriers and the technology they need in order to. successfully do their job are all part of the package. It looks like Langford says, I understand.

He says, for those of you who have. been engaged in the field. We're going to take lots of hits, and lots of people are going to be cheering and booing in the stands. I understand that, but the task has got to be done. I just can't ignore the reality of the border and what is happening.

So he expects people to be very critical. Reminds me of what you went through with the guns. Yeah. Well, you know When you're trying to solve a problem, you can never satisfy 100% of the people. And there will be people on the right and the left critical if we're able to get this done.

And the jury is still out on that. But there's nobody else to do the job. If Congress doesn't do the job, it won't get done. The status quo is unsustainable. And if we can make some incremental progress and then put pl tools in place that the next President who's actually willing to enforce the law can use to do a better do more, then I think that's worth doing.

But again, the jury's still out on the details. And you're not signed on to it yet? It's not a final deal yet. We're still waiting. Today at noon, at our regular luncheon, James Lankford will make a presentation and give us more detail.

I certainly support what he's trying to do, but I am withholding judgment until I actually see the details. Right. I'm sure the House is I think a lot of people feel it's got to get everything beside the wall for it to work because they'll just use that weak area and people take advantage of it. We have never seen it so bad.

So we'll see what happens. I think even Democrats know they have to do something, but if you do something incremental, they can honestly say it's not my problem anymore. We did something bipartisan.

So it's a bit of a political risk in a political year, but we do have to handle it. Yes, you're right, Brian.

Some people say, well, we can't do anything on the border because then President Biden will be able to claim credit. But even if we do something, this problem is not going to go away overnight. I hear you. Senator John Cornyn, always great to talk to you. Thanks so much.

Brad Melton, next. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, with me in studio, is Brad Melter. You're watching on Fox Nation.

You know him well, best-selling author, host of the Fox Nation series, Brad Melter's Greatest Conspiracies of All Time. And the IM series, the latest book he has out now is I. Am Ruth Bader, Ginsburg, Ordinary People, Changing the World, is the type of series we're talking about. It's geared towards kids. Brad, welcome back.

Always good to be here, my friend. Special anniversary with the book. This is, yeah, so we've been doing this now. I have to say, I owe you, I came here also to say thank you, because when we launched this series, It was to give my kids better heroes to look up to. And we started with I'm Amelia Earhart and I'm Abraham Lincoln.

We launched them on your show. We did them together. It is now the 10-year anniversary, which means if you bought those first books, you are old. Um and uh but we but ten years of doing this, we've done thirty-two heroes from George Washington to Ben Franklin to everyone in between, you know, Walt Disney and uh and which brings us to the two newest, Mr. Rogers and Ruth Beta Ginsburg.

Right. So Mr. Rogers is out too. Mr. Rogers is out too.

Yeah, we tried to do it for the ten-year anniversary.

So the newest one is Ruth Beta Ginsburg. And again, there's no politics about it. We never do any politics in the book. In fact, in the back of I Am Ruth Beta Ginsburg, you can see we have Sanjade O'Conadere there. We have Amy Coney Barrett's in there.

We put, you know, we're like, this is what we want to celebrate is women who make a change. And we all think of Ruth Betta Ginsburg as a serious Supreme Court justice. But when she's a little girl growing up in Brooklyn, New York, she's basically wants to go on adventures. She wants to go roller skating. She wants to ride her bike, go to the roof, jump around.

But they tell her at the time, girls can't do that. You're a girl. You can't do that. And it's her mother who changes that stereotype. Her mom takes you to the library and says every Friday afternoon you could pick out five books, Ruth.

And as a little girl, Ruth's favorite books are Real Heroes, nonfiction. She likes, among others, she likes Amelia Earhart, she likes stories of Harriet Tubman. And what she really wants and what she learns in that moment is there's nothing that a girl can't do. And I want my daughter to have that lesson. I want my sons to have that lesson.

And as a book, that's what I am Ruth Bay Ginsburg is about.

So with her, of course, she's looked up to by a lot of successful women in this country, Republicans and Democrats. But for her, in what way do you think this will resonate with young people? In my mind, when you look at her story, we always tell the stories when she's a kid. And I the story that my daughter loves the most in the book is the story when Ruth Betta Ginsburg is a little girl, her mother used to take her to the during instead of having birthday parties for her, would take her to the local Jewish orphanage. And she would look at this orphanage and they would give out ice cream to all the orphans.

No birthday party. I mean, you know what would happen in my house if I took away my kids' birthday party?

So we're going to the orphanage? But that's what her mom did. What she learned there, she used to say that hatred and injustice is a fracture in society, and you have to repair those fractures. And that's not a lesson she got from law school. That's not a lesson she got on the Supreme Court.

It's a lesson she got from her mom, where we get some of life's great lessons. And that's when my wife, my daughter and my wife, both said this is my favorite story in the book, because that's all these, you know, her mom was teaching her right there how to make change. You make change. Ruth obviously uses the legal system to try and make sure that men and women are treated equally. But That's what our books are, is my way of trying to put some good into the world for our kids.

So, Mr. Rogers, the best. Let's talk about him, he's the best. He so when I was five years old, Mr. Rogers taught me.

That you could use your creativity to put good into the world. And that's all we're trying to do, Brian. You know, we're trying to use my creativity to put good in the world. Mr. Rogers, when he's a little boy, used to be bullied.

used to be chased home from school. He used to get really angry. We think of mister Rogers as this guy of ultimate kindness, but he was really angry. He'd get all mad. He mailed away for for one of those muscle things where you you know, make you bigger, make you stronger, take on the bullies.

He was he he didn't didn't like those bullies so much. And of course none of it works. But what he sees is his mother. And again, it always comes back to mom so often, and even my life too. But his mom found out about a at school that the nurse told her that there were kids in the school that couldn't afford new shoes.

So the mother sends a pair of new shoes for free for the kids. Doesn't take any credit for it. Then she finds out there are kids who can't afford new clothes. Sends the clothes. New furniture sends the furniture.

Never ever takes credit for all the charitable work she does. And Mr. Rogers sees this. And what does he learn from his mother there? How to be a good neighbor.

And it's his mom who Who gives him the greatest advice I think he ever gets in his life? Mr. Rogers is watching the news. He's really scared about the news. And his mother gives him the advice that we all know is quoted from Mr.

Roger, but it's really his mother's quote: look for the helpers. You can always find a helper. And To me, what I love about the book is That's what Mr. Rogers is for so many of us, right? He's a helper.

He's someone and and For me Again, I can't say it enough. I think uh The world needs some more kindness these days. And I know there are things that are worth fighting over, but the world needs some more kindness, especially toward each other. And he's the perfect hero to me to tell people how to be a good neighbor. Because, boy, do we need that right now.

So, how would you describe these books of what ages?

So, yeah, I mean, they're basically illustrated kids' books. They're ages four to five years old up to 12 years old, is where our sweet spot is. And, you know, listen, I am Ann Frank when we're dealing with anti-Semitism or what's going on in Israel right now. That's a book, obviously, that maybe is more like 10 years old or 8 years old. Emilia Yarhard and Abraham Lincoln are for five and four-year-olds.

The beautiful part is, my kids are 22 and still read them. I talk to people all the time and say, I read these books for myself, but the illustrations in there by Chris Eliopoulos are a cross between. Charlie Brown meets Calvin and Hobbes. And that's why kids love the stories. They love the stories.

And I've done 32 books in this series of the greatest Americans who've ever lived. And whether it's Rosa Parks or Dr. King, we've done, I am George Washington, I am Benjamin Franklin, the one thing that I've noticed they all have in common, every single one of them. Is all these people, or two things I have in common: is one, they're always helping someone. That's what they're doing at the end of the day.

I tell my kids all the time: you know, being a multi-billionaire and having a great business doesn't make you a hero. You got to think of someone beside yourself. And so, of course, they're helping someone. But the other thing is, they're all following their passion. And, you know, for I am Walt Disney or I am Jim Henson, it's puppets and it's a cartoon mouse.

For Marie Curie or for Muhammad Ali, it's, you know, it's boxing and it's science. And each one of these heroes is doing the thing that they love. And to me, if you can give your kids and teach them, Jackie Robinson, it's baseball, is teaching kids do that thing, find your passion, and that's how you change your life. How long have you been doing history? I've been doing history since I've been an undergrad at University of Michigan.

1992. When do you think our country started judging history instead of studying history? I uh I it's a great question. I actually think the problem I think that the rise of that happened probably around the time the Internet happened. Because what happened is everyone got their own printing press.

That's what the Internet is. Rather than having newspapers or anything like that, and once and it's a great thing that everyone now has a voice. But the bad part is, is everyone tells their own story. Right? Everyone now, whatever you feel, you can put out there.

And that's we get all the benefits of that. And as all things in life, your greatest strength is your greatest weakness. And that's our greatest weakness right now: everyone just says whatever they want, and we judge it, we redo it, we relist it. We don't care what the truth was, whether it's from issues of slavery or issues of anything else. And that William Penn, well, we're going to restructure William Penn Park in Pennsylvania.

He's listening. My daughter goes to Pennsylvania. My daughter goes to Penn. That's where she's at school. And you know my belief on this.

I just don't believe you tear statues down. I believe you put context to them, you tell kids, you put them in museums and tell people a story. To me, you know, when we did I'm Harriet Tubman, I'm never forgetting. Here's our first kid's book about slavery. And the editor said to me, You're going to tell slavery to kids?

And I said, Yeah, what are we going to do? Pretend it didn't happen. America is made up of hard stories, and if we pick just the ones we like, there's no history. It's supposed to be complicated. It's supposed to not be easy.

It hurt the country. You know, the funny thing about 1619, obviously, I know all the controversy around it. I think the hard part of 1619, listen, do I think the country started in 1619? Of course not, right? Like the hard part is, you know, 1776 is, of course, like where I mark my date, right?

That's where I see it. The hard part of what you're seeing now is that everyone has their own history. And again, it's the best part and the worst part. I will say that I do think that there are stories that are being told now. And this is the one positive thing that I think of all this, you know, what's going on, is we do need people who tell stories that we've never heard stories of before.

We never heard the stories when I was going to high school, we never heard anyone telling stories from the slavery perspective. That was just a lot, you know, we would tell the story of here's the Civil War and here's why it happened, but then we'd go.

So I like the fact we get new stories, but we can't just like the history that we agree with. That's not what America is about. America is a complicated place and we're a country founded on legends and myths. And the legends and myths we love most are our own. And I think our job, and you are a historian, I'm a historian.

And we care about this stuff. What I love about, you know, when you do your books, is. You know, these friendships, especially the ones in your most recent books, right? Those are complicated relationships. Right.

Right? Frederick Douglass's relationship with Abraham Lincoln is complicated. It's not best buddies. It's not this. It's one pushing the other to try and make this a better union.

And that's complicated. And I think we're in a mode right now as a society. What we're doing with our history and we're doing with our society, it's dangerous. We're tearing things down. We're tearing everything.

We tear down our politicians, our athletes, our everybody. Our era is the perfect era. And no one does it, which is totally wrong. And we do a disservice to our kids. You know, we've got to teach our kids better and give our kids real heroes to me.

Right. And that's what the goal of this is. And as I Am series continues with I am Ruth Gader, Ruth Gader Ginsburg, as well as Mr. Rogers. Brad, great to see you again.

Congratulations. Always, thank you. Samuel Cast with Stuart Varney and FBN. Don't move. Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney, live on your radio and on Fox Business.

Here's Brian Kilmead. Yeah, welcome back. I'm going to be on with Stuart in a moment. And then usually when we get back on the other side, there's a couple of minutes left.

So call now, 1-866-408-7669. The big story, of course, 2024. We're six days away now for Iowa caucus. Then followed up on the following Tuesday, we'll be in New Hampshire. We'll be in New Hampshire actually arriving there Monday night.

Sunday night, do the show there Monday and then Tuesday, and then I'm not sure if we're going to be there on Wednesday, but let's listen to Stuart. Kilmead will miraculously appear on your screens right about.

Now. Brian, Michelle Obama's weighing in on this year's election. Watch this, please. Roll it. I am terrified.

about what could possibly happen. because our leaders matter who we select. Who speaks for us? Who holds that bully pulpit? Brandon is out of you.

That sometimes I think people take for granted. We cannot take this democracy for granted. And sometimes I I worry that we do. All right, Brian, do you think that she might jump into the election, or do you think she's just trying to? Light a fire under the Biden campaign to get them going.

What's she up to?

Well, it was very interesting that she didn't, she talked about the different issues in a separate sound bite about different issues facing us about AI, about the environment. We're just going to get out of this for a moment and fix that microphone problem. We've got a little scraping around on the mic there. I'll get back to Brian in a second. The markets are red ink in terms of the Dow down 260 points, the NASDAQ's down 50.

Before it happened. All right, there you go. I'm not sure really what happened, but I guess we had some microphone problems, so I don't really know what the issues was.

So we're doing on Fox Business. We're doing a simulcast. I guess they were having problems with the T V end of it. But we're talking about Michelle Obama. And she says quote I'm terrified about what could possibly happen in the 2024 election.

It's hard to terrify what would possibly happen. You just don't want your guy to lose because he is. As her husband said over the summer, Your guy lost. Your guy is losing. And he's underestimating the power of Trump.

They personally are appored by the eye of Trump. They look at January 6th, they look at different things, and they say to themselves, there's no way this guy can win, let alone win the nomination, let alone the general. And they see him with tremendous power. They see him now with a 46. I'm looking at this Boston Globe poll as a national poll.

I'm sorry, the Suffolk poll. USA Today, and has the president up 42 to 26 over Nikki Haley.

However, the Boston Globe poll in New Hampshire has it within six.

Now, why is that? She's within six for a reason. Undeclared, undecideds in New Hampshire that live free or die state, have to decide each time you pick a party. Pick one: Democrats or Republicans.

Now, there's no Democrat to pick because this president wants to lose New Hampshire and thinks New Hampshire is not worthy to start on. Remember, last time he lost New Hampshire so bad, he didn't even wait for the final verdict to went right to South Carolina, where James Colbert Clyburn saved and really made his career and saved his career.

So in New Hampshire, the undeclareds have gone to Nikki Haley for the most part, undecided. But for the most part, conservatives, it's overwhelmingly for Trump.

So that's what's coming his direction.

So it's 4626 Trump over Haley.

However, locally in New Hampshire, thirty nine thirty two, Haley's picked up twelve points in New Hampshire.

Now, would that be momentum enough to bring her up in South Carolina, where the current governor of South Carolina has endorsed the President McMaster? I'm not sure. But if she has New Hampshire and lets people think the president of former president is vulnerable, does that change things? Here's Nikki Haley, the Talking about the most controversial thing right now in the Republican Party. And that is how you explain abortion.

And the Dobbs decision cut five. You said he wouldn't support, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, a six-week federal ban if it were to go into place. Rhonda Santos has said that you are too moderate on this issue. That's not what I said. What I said is, be honest with the American people.

The only way a federal ban will pass is if you have a majority of the House, 60 Senate votes, and a signature of a President. We haven't had 60 Senators in over 100 years. We may have 45 pro-life senators.

So instead of demonizing this issue, the fellas just don't know how to talk about it.

Well, it doesn't seem like anybody knows how to talk about it, whether it was Tudor Dixon running for governor in Michigan, or whether it was Senator Kerry Lake running, now Senate candidate Kerry Lake, who was running for governor. That was the issue. They think that that is probably the best issue. Why are we talking about hypotheticals that will never happen? There'll be no federal ban on it.

There'll be no federal ban on abortion, even if they wanted it. It's just not possible.

Now, in terms of what Michelle Obama was saying, she would not, I wonder if she would make this statement if Governor Haley was running, or is this just a Trump thing? I think they would find an extremist with DeSantis, and I think they find a huge problem. They'll find some vulnerability. With Governor Haley, cut eight. What is the thing that keeps you up at night?

More to do with the world that we're in. There's such a thing as knowing too much. It could be any range of things that comes across the desk of the leader of the free world, right?

So I know a lot about what's going on and what keeps me up are the things that I know. the war in the region, in too many regions. What is AI gonna do for us? The environment, you know, are we moving at all fast enough? What are we doing about education?

Are people gonna vote? And why aren't people voting? I mean, those are the things that keep me up because you you don't have control over them. And you wonder Where are people at where are we in this? You know, where are our hearts?

That is what she was saying yesterday on a podcast.

So she sounds like somebody that really wanted to talk, could easily have skated, talked about family, but she's talking directly about politics, but not as if she'll run. One thing about her: there's no rumors that she said behind the scenes that she'd like to run one day. We always heard that with Hillary Clinton, did a listening tour as senator, opportunity as Secretary of State, first ran for president of the United States, wanted to be better than Bill, not likable enough. And we know that she's far left of where her husband was, where he ended up governing. But that's it.

Michelle Obama wanted to put her voice out there. This is just a few days after the Washington Post got the story about the conversation that Delaware he wanted to, did the former president of the United States wanted people in Delaware to show some leadership on the campaign because Trump is much more formidable than anyone in the Democratic Party seems to understand, in my view, except David Axelrod. Who constantly, while deriding Trump, constantly brings up no one can quite figure out the power of Trump. Bigger crowds than anybody else, more passion than anybody else, more court cases than anybody else, more charges than anybody else. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division.

It's Brian Killmead. All right, well, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. 1-866-408-7669. The number to call to be on the show. And we also have a big hour coming your way, Ian O'Connor on the unfolding drama in New England. He wrote the book Belichick.

He is going to be joining us now, former New York Post writer, to talk about the possible firing of what many people consider the greatest coach ever with six Super Bowls. He's actually decided: hey, I don't have to have player personnel. It looks like he wants to hold on to that decision. I think it's bigger than sports. He'll make the call on that.

And Garrett Ventry is with us right now. He is a political analyst, and he's going to be with us to break down. down possibly one of the most intriguing weeks of the year leading up to the Iowa caucus. Because instead of looking at numbers and delegates, we look at projections and polls and we wonder if any of this is true.

So before we get to Garrett, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. That strike in Baghdad that killed the Iranian leader was at noon local time on January 4th, last Thursday. Right, so Baghdad corresponds to 4 a.m. D.C.

time. Which means Joe hadn't been notified of the fact that Secretary Austin was out of commission.

So, who's making that call? Is it that second in command in Puerto Rico on vacation on a secure Zoom? Secretary Austin's atrocious decision to keep his grave medical condition secret should get him fired. Right now, he's still in the hospital. What is his condition?

What it exposes is beyond disturbing for our country. I'll explain. Number two. We are doing everything we can. within a broken system.

to incentivize non-citizens to use lawful pathways, To impose consequences on those who do not. He will continue to enforce the law. What an embarrassment he is. Secretary Mayorkis, Border has America United. Just about all of us agree it's busted and has to be fixed.

I know exactly who is to blame. We all know how to fix it. Will the Senate get this started, or will it be a short-term fix that might help people politically but not help us at all as a country? Number one. An extreme movement of America, the MIGA Republicans, led by a defeated president, is trying to steal history now.

They tried to steal an election.

Now they're trying to steal history. What is he even talking about? If you want to get accurate history, it's the Democrats that were segregationists. It was the Democrats that wanted to hold on to slavery. Is that the part?

Is that what you want to talk about, Mr. President? One down, two to go. Three straight town halls featuring all three top contenders. It moves to DeSantis as Haley wrapped up her impressive showing on Monday.

Six days till Iowa as President Biden goes from calling Trump Hitler to a racist at a famed church in South Carolina. Garrett Ventry, this is not boring. You are the founder and president of GRV Strategy's former senior advisor, Senator Chuck Grassley. Great to see you. Great to be with you, Brian.

Your thoughts about President Biden's two-day launch. First, he's Hitler on Friday. Monday, he's a member of the KKK. Absolutely. He's hitting all the strokes here, Brian, that the left really wants to do it.

January. Exactly. I'm excited to hear what he's going to come up with. With it in February. I don't know what you can go with next there when you're starting with Hitler and KKK.

But I think it just shows he doesn't really have an agenda to run on, right? When you're talking about January 6th, something that Democrats for three years have used against President Trump, they impeached him over it. You know, 50% of the indictments are about it. They're trying to take the ballot off of it. They had a year-long investigation.

People might not like some of President Trump's actions that day. They might think that it was a bad day, but they've kind of moved on. It's not a top three or four issue for him. They want to hear about the economy, inflation, the border, those things. And they just don't like Joe Biden's solution right now.

A couple of things. He put $40 million into selling us on Bidenomics. He thought the numbers were strong, and people just have to be aware. It's a waste of money. Everyone agrees.

It did nothing in getting him traction. Turns out democracy on the ballot also doesn't work. Only Trump is evil works, but there's no strategy in doing it. He hit you with a two-by-four on Friday with everything you could possibly have. You got the court cases coming up, and then Monday to go to that church, the horrific shooting in 2015, and declare.

Listen to this, Garrett. He declares that he started the civil rights movement. Yeah. I was talking downstairs. I've spent more time in uh the uh Bethlehem E Church in Wilmington, Delaware, and I have uh than most people I know, black or white, have spent that church.

Because that's where I started a civil. No, I'm serious. I started a civil rights movement. I used to go to 7:30 Mass. Then I go to ten o'clock.

Clinic ten o'clock services. The Reverend Does anyone believe this? Does anyone believe this? No, I mean, you could kind of even hear the crowd there even booing him. He's about 20 minutes away from saying he was there with Joseph and Mary in the manger.

I mean, it's ridiculous. The guy just makes things up. He's done this his entire career. He's very gaff-prone and just lies, frankly. But if you take a step back, what you said about binomics is really important, too.

They've tried to pump these things in and tell people that their financial situation is good. But when people feel the pain from inflation, they look at the gas pump, they look that prices were worse than they were three or four years ago, they look at mortgage rates, they can't buy a home, it's at 7%, 8%. You can't tell people that things are going well. They're not dumb when 75% of people say the country is going in the wrong direction.

So it's a strategy of just trying to tell them they're stupid, essentially. But Garrett, didn't it work to a degree with President Obama against Mitt Romney? They made him out to be a detached guy that liked to fire people as opposed to let me show you what I'll do over the next four years. They vilified Romney, tried to make him unelectable.

Now they're trying to do it to the 10th power. And Trump makes it easier with some of the things. He says, I got it. But is it the same playbook? It is the same playbook.

I would say that the difference is that all, you know, President Obama was a very bad president. Obviously, I didn't think he did much that was very good. But if you look at where Joe Biden is, it's astronomically worse here. And the thing is, with Trump versus the Romney thing, is people can look back at Trump's record as president. They might not like the tweets.

They might not like some of the things he said, but they liked the record. They liked the secure border. They liked the low taxes. They liked feeling safe. There wasn't war in Ukraine.

There wasn't a terrorist attack in Israel. Exactly. Abraham Accords decimated ISIS, did these things. And so I think you're comparing two records here. Joe Biden ran last time and said we're going to return to normal, right?

Everybody, he thought that people were tired of Donald Trump. The issue is now if the return to normal is high taxes, is the reckless spending, inflation, these type of things, people don't want that anymore.

So I think it's going to be a lot more tough to do, especially when he's dealing with his own corruption out of the White House, the impeachment inquiry, those type of things as well play into that too for Biden.

So as this plays out, President Trump also has this thing called four indictments and 91 charges and three civil cases. The first one could be as early as March, although it looks like it's going to be delayed. His goal, go for the knockout early, make it clear that I'm the nominee. You're going after your opponent as opposed to I'm in a tight match with two other formidable candidates. Correct?

How important is the early knockout for the Trump team? I think it's very important here. You've got it, and obviously there's two very key early states here that are really going to hinge the entire race, in my opinion. If he knocks off Ron DeSantis in Iowa, I just don't see a path forward for Ron DeSantis. Do you think he announces, as rumored, that night?

And doesn't go to New Hampshire? You know, they're tamping that down. I've not spoken to anyone in the DeSantis campaign. I don't know. Obviously, you're going to remain positive.

Because he's behind Christie in New Hampshire. Right, exactly. And so that's the point. If you can't beat Donald Trump in Iowa, he beats you by 20, 30 points there. You're going to finish in fourth or fifth place in New Hampshire.

You're going to finish maybe in third place in South Carolina. There's not really a path there. Donors start to get uneasy about that. They don't want to invest money in a campaign that proves that they can't win. The state, again, at DeSantis said, Iowa, they're going to win.

Now they're tamping down a lot of those expectations. Then in New Hampshire, as you pointed out, Brian, he's got to stop Nikki Haley there, too, because if she can win in New Hampshire, you're going into South Carolina. I don't think she can beat Trump in her home state of South Carolina. But for Donald Trump, he's got to win these first two states. And I think those candidates then, he really just runs away with that.

So, you know, it's interesting. They had a Boston Globe poll, and it has Haley down 39-32. Right. That's legitimate. They say and you you're the expert, Garrett.

They say it's because these undecided undeclared can pick either party. There's no Democrats to pick from, and most moderates undeclared independents tend towards Haley. Yeah, and she's done a very good job really investing her time in New Hampshire. She's been there, they're running ads, she's on the ground, she's got Sununu's endorsement.

So, I mean, that's going to she's obviously tightened in the race here. You've seen that poll, you've seen another poll where, you know, she's tightened it from, you know, 20 points here down to 14 and now to seven today.

So clearly, she's gaining some ground there. It's just very important. President Trump has to be able to hold her off in New Hampshire. And I think the map then gets even more clear for him. But I think they can really realistically, speaking to folks in the Trump campaign, they think they can lock this down by mid-March.

What does an indictment do to this race? I don't care what you think of the verdict or the jury, what does an indictment do? Because I tell you, the Wall Street Journal poll goes up four to down one. Right. No, certainly a conviction, obviously, quite differently.

No, absolutely.

So certainly a conviction, I think, throws some, it's something we've just never seen before, right? And I think it's certainly, you know, there's some voters that may be turned off by that. But I think if you, there's a poll that I thought was very interesting. It polled Michigan, CNN did. And even within that, in a swing state of Michigan, you know, more.

Voters, a majority of voters still would have seen it as political.

So it's really unknown, but I do think of the four indictments where we thought, you know, if a guy gets indicted four times in 2012, Brian, you've been doing this for a long time, or 2008, they would have had to drop out of the race and disgrace and hide somewhere. This guy shot up in the polls and beats Biden.

So I think that it's really unknown, but we'll see how it plays out. Garrett Ventry is with us, the founder and president of GRV Strategies, former senior advisor to Santa Gressley.

So I heard an ad last night. And I laughed out loud. Donald Trump is releasing another series of collector cards, including the mugshot version. He voiced it.

So, not only is he selling mugs for it, and mugs, mug shots, and he's actually selling trading cards. He's making money, raising money off it. Do you remember when George Bush was rumored to had a DWI in his twenties, didn't tell anyone? Right? And that was a scandal.

This guy was arrested. There's there's this line of SUVs going in and out of courtrooms for the last six, seven months, and he's actually selling you the card of his mug shop and of everything you learned and all the politics that you know. Can you put that in perspective? No, I mean, again, you've been covering this for a long time. Is this just Trump or has this changed the rules for everybody?

I think, listen, there's a couple like things through the arc of history. I think the Clinton impeachment, him holding on during that scandal kind of you know Changed some of the arc, but obviously Trump is throwing gasoline on it, right? Again, I think the truest thing Donald Trump ever said was that he could go out in Fifth Avenue, shoot somebody right down the street from where we are, and he would probably go up in the polls. And so I think that's the truest hypothetical thing, obviously, he has said. And you've seen this with a number of things.

Again, people thought he was done after January 6th. People thought he was done after some of the midterm elections in 2022 with some of the endorsed candidates. People thought he would be done after these indictments. He's just shot up in the polls and he's up 50 points nationally. He's set such a hold on the party.

And I think it's just voters are loyal to him. They trust him. They like his policies. They like his style in the Republican primary. It's just tough to overcome if you're Haley or DeSantos.

So Nikki Haley came out and said, you know, when they asked her the cause of the Civil War, she said, well, it was freedom and liberty, and she should have shed slavery. She tried to correct it. It was very slow to correct it. Here's President Biden on that. Cut three.

After the Civil War, The defeated Confederates couldn't accept the verdict of the war. They had lost.

So they say They embraced what's known as the lost cause. A self-serving lie that the Civil War is not about slavery. What about states' rights?

So let me be clear. For those who don't seem to know. Slavery was the cause of the Civil War. There is no negotiation about that. First of your reaction to him dressing it.

Yeah, I mean, I think that at an AME church. Yeah, no, absolutely. I think that Ambassador Haley, I think it was a massive slip-up for her. I think she knows better. I don't know what was happening there.

She since clarified the comments. But no, I think it's a gap that has proved to be a problematic bad news cycle for her as well. I think it's interesting with President Biden because he was in the Senate. He cozied up to a lot of segregational senators, right? No, no, no.

He founded the Civil Rights Movement. Yeah, there's that too.

So he did that and cozied up. He thundered a lot of things, right? He was on the moon landing, a number of things, Brian, as you remember. He got arrested trying to protest Mendel's. Exactly.

He was all over the map. He's there, the war, 1812, all of it, right?

So I do think it's interesting. They'll try and make, I think, race, democracy, these are two issues that they're going to try to exploit. health care, abortion. It's issues that Democrats want to make this race about. But I think if you take a step back, her comments obviously are wrong.

She corrected him. The Civil War was obviously about slavery. And so I think that's what they want the race to be about. Republicans, I think, are seeing where voters are. It's about the economy, inflation, and the border.

So this is what Nikki Haley and Governor DeSantis are getting constantly. Why aren't you tougher on Trump? You know, you're out here, you're running, why don't you tougher on Trump? My opinion? There's no difference between Trump and his voters.

If you want to win over his voters, they take it personal. What is there a sweet spot to beating Donald Trump as a Republican? I just don't think there is. We've seen this for Eight years now, Brian, right? We've seen this as he comes down the golden escalator, whether it's Jeb Bush came at him.

I don't even know what Jeb Bush is doing now. Ted Cruz and Rubio came at him. They eventually bended the knee to Trump. You've seen this with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger challenging him. Anyone who's challenged him as a Republican just hasn't won or survived.

And I think then when you're talking about now, when he's running now, where he's, you know, a lot of his voters don't like what happened in the 2020 election, they love President Trump. It's just tough to do. And I think the autopsy of every GOP campaign will simply be this. They looked at, you know, after the midterm elections, they looked after 2020. They thought there would be a lane to defeat Donald Trump.

There just isn't. Pompeo saw that early. I think Pompeo saw that early. I think Ted Cruz saw that early. I think Tom Cotton.

I think smart candidates, not to say these candidates aren't young, they just looked at and they said, listen, I think it's still Trump. Right. And so I think the tough thing is here, you've had some of these candidates who've surged, whether DeSantis had a little bump, Vivek had a little bump, Nikki's had a bump. The issue is you're not taking any of Trump voters away. Until you can eat away at his slice of the pie, it's very tough to beat him.

So how do you explain Haley winning in the general in double figures? Last one was 17 points against in a hypothetical against Joe Biden, yet down by 20 to Trump? Yeah, I I think it's never seen that. I don't think I've ever seen that. Have you?

Yeah, I mean it's it's it's a it's an interesting thing. She certainly has a broader appeal to some more moderate voters, right? I think they they that that probably play just don't play a role in the primary. Yeah, they don't play a role in the primary. You're talking about these independent voters, some of them who can't, you know, vote in the primary.

Maybe it's some disenfranchised Democrats too. They might like her style and her, you know. Approach a little more than President Trump. Obviously, President Trump's beat Biden in a lot of these polls. But I think a part of it is, too, the Biden campaign hasn't spent any money on Nikki Haley and hasn't attacked her.

You know how this works. You could be at a number, and the moment the race tightens, you start spending $500 million calling someone racist, terrible, pointing out all their things, they're probably not going to be up 15.

So I think the race would tighten. I think it shows, though, that Biden is such a weak candidate that most of our candidates in this race are beating him head. It's just so funny that people call each other weak. Trump, oh, he's so weak. And Biden, he's so weak.

So, I mean, they're both weak candidates. Only one can get 50,000, 60,000 at a rally, and one can get 50. Right, right.

So Barack Obama is trying to tell Joe Biden that. Why do you think we got that story leaked? I think it's interesting. I think Obama always likes making it about him. I think that's part of it, right?

He likes looking as the strategist. He likes being as the guy who's behind the scene, helping Joe, helping this person.

So I think he can't give that up. You know, all these guys, when they have politicians, when they leave office, whatever, they still like the power. They like the spotlight. That's why they do that.

So I think that's probably part of the reason why. All right, Garrett, great job. Always love your insight. Founder and president of GRV Strategies. Used to be in there with Chuck Grassley.

It's going to be an exciting time. We're six days away. Thanks, Brian. Garrett, talking. We'll do the post-analysis of the caucus leading up to New Hampshire.

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Disappointing year for all of us, players, coaches, staff, entire organization. Not anything that any of us are in any way content with, but it is what it is. As far as the future goes, I'll sit down with Robert as I do every year at some point at the end of the season, and you know, we'll talk about things as we always do. Sure, that'll happen. But that's really about all I have to say about that right now, because there's nothing else to talk about.

It's our understanding that you're under contract for next year. Is it is it your hope? To come back and I just finished the game with the Jetsville. It was a very, you know, put everything I had into it this week and. Try to prepare our team the best I could to play in it.

Wow. Uh and they didn't play. They were terrible. And the Jets um You know, they were better, and they finally ended a 15-game losing streak to Bill Belichick's Patriots. Ian O'Connor writes, he comes from New York, writes from the New York Post, New York Daily News for years, but he's a four-time New York Times bestseller, author of five books, including Belichick, The Making of the Greatest Football Coach of All Time, where he goes back to the days when he was playing football in college and lacrosse, and then the days of the Giants and working his way all the way through rejecting the Jets and then going to the Patriots, where he was defensive coordinator under Bill Parcells.

And now, after six Super Bowls, they're talking about that being it. It could happen anyway, could happen now. Why is that so historic? No one's ever won six Super Bowls. Same franchise, too.

And I get the sense that he's not done whether he gets fired or not. Ian, welcome back. Hey, Brian, how are you? Hey, Ian, if I told you we'd be at this place at the end of the season, would you have said there's a good chance because there's not much talent on that roster? Or did you think he got Matt Patricia back?

He was going to be able, he's got O'Brien back, a guy who made his name at Penn State, but actually cut his teeth in New England, and he'll be fine. What do you think?

Well I I thought Brian would survive. I thought he would get to eight or nine wins with this. Team because he's Bill Belichick, and he would find a way to not have a four and thirteenth season, which is exactly what he had. I thought it was very interesting yesterday when Bill Belichick, for the first time ever in New England, suggested he's willing to give up personnel control. And so he put the ball firmly in Robert Kraft's court.

If you want me out of here, I'm going to make you fire me. And so that to me was was really, really interesting that he suggested he'd give up some power to stay in his job as head coach.

Now the guy's going to be seventy two years old in April.

So, I actually think it's a very good idea for him just to focus on coaching the football team. And he's made a lot of mistakes as a general manager trying to assemble that roster. Let someone else do that work, and you just coach and focus on winning football games and breaking Don Shula's record.

So, they looked at the three: craft. Brady and Belichick and people used to debate back and forth who's the most important. Is the debate over now that Brady went down and won a Super Bowl and Belichick hasn't had much success since? I just think the two are so inseparable, Brian, that it's hard to make if you're going to make a case, Brady's is better right now. Certainly, he won a Super Bowl at Tampa Bay and look at what Bill has done since Brady left him.

But I think without Belichick, there's no way Tom Brady wins six Super Bowls with one franchise.

Now, he might have found a way to win three or four with a very good football coach, but Belichick is the greatest of all time. He created a system around Brady, helped by having the best offensive coordinator of his generation and Josh McDaniels. Without that, Brady's not winning six for some other coach.

So I I just don't think you could separate those two figures historically. It's the greatest partnership maybe in the history of American sports. And so but if you're in a sports bar and you're having that debate with a friend, right now the case for Brady looks a little bit better, but I think it's almost irrelevant. And I don't think there is any other NFL coach who could have scored. Squeeze six out of Brady in New England the way Belichick did.

So interesting, but they didn't really get along a lot. And he didn't give Brady special rules, right? And did that create resentment that has dissipated since, or are they just pretending to have paved it over? Because famously, Belichick, I think, called in last year to a podcast that he was doing, I think, with Jim Gray. It's a great question, Brian.

And I think That was part of a big part of their success was the way Belichick coached him. Bill Belichick coached him like he was a guy in the middle of the bottom of the roster. And that really impacted the other players on the team. If Bill is going to call out Tom Brady in the middle of a film session the way he would, and not it was something he would do fairly often, then a guy who is the 50th man on the roster is going to say, Well, if he's doing that to Tom Brady, I better get my act together and really have an incredible attention to detail every practice because Tom Brady was held to that standard. And yet after 20 years of that, I think, and one of Tom Brady's friends told me from my book, he was bellichicked out.

He just, after two decades of being coached every single day, like it's Game Seven of the World Series, it finally wore him down. And you look, the coach he chose in Tampa Bay ran an entirely different program with the opposite approach, a very user-friendly approach in Tampa. And I think Tom Brady wanted that, and he needed a break from Belichick, and that's the way it played out.

So there's a story today that Josh McDaniels, the man you just mentioned, would be open to coming back. As well as Scott Pioli, who has helped put together those rosters that won so much and so often and so many Super Bowls. How do you feel about that?

Well, I think it would help. And Josh McDaniels and Belichick were an incredible partnership.

Now, Peoli's from that first dynasty in the early 2000s. And he's been out of the league for a while, but he obviously looks at building a football team the same way as Belichick does. I think it makes a lot of sense. And I think it's a way for Robert Kraft. I never thought that Belichick was definitely done, even after losing to the Jets, even after finishing four and thirteen.

I just thought when push came to shove, particularly if he was willing to surrender control of the roster, which apparently he is, That Kraft would, for lack of a better expression, chicken out. And I just don't think Robert Kraft, it's going to be very difficult for him to fire. A guy who's won six Super Bowls and nine AFC championship games.

So I think it's going to be very interesting. It could happen today. It could happen soon.

So, Belichick could have made it easy. We're talking to Ian O'Connor, who wrote the book Belichick. Ian, he could have made it easy and said, guys, I think my time's done here. But he's not making it easy. He says, I'll give up some control here to stay here.

Do you think a part of it is his two sons are coaching with him and what will happen to them?

Well, they yeah, and they don't want to move either. And the other thing is, I mean, Belichick has built so much there, he doesn't want to leave. Everyone assumed he wanted to go someplace and get a good young quarterback and build a championship team from scratch. to speak. But but no, I think he wants to stay.

That's his job. He built that program. And I think he wants to break Don Schuler's record right there. And so he's made it difficult on Robert Kraft, and I'm not surprised that he has.

So uh The stories about him going to San Diego, that's a rebuild situation. I think the thing that he could walk into if he does, in fact, get fired, would be Dallas. If McCarthy's in and out and won. Would he go to like would Jerry Jones take a shot at Another bill. It's a very interesting situation there, Brian.

And I think there's no way Bill Belichick is going to work for an owner who holds a press conference after every game right outside the locker room.

So he's going to have to have a conversation with Jerry Jones about that. Parcels had enough trouble dealing with that in Dallas, but Belichick, there's just no way. That's not sustainable. Hey, one thing that should be pointed out: by playing hardball here, if Belichick forces Kraft to fire him, he's a free agent.

So when he goes to the next place, that next place doesn't have to send draft pick compensation back to New England. Interesting. And So, and I think Belichick wants to go somewhere where they're not losing a first or second round pick. He wants that asset.

So, it makes sense in that context as well.

So, one thing that I've talked to Bob Kraft about and talked to people close to him is he really kept the lid on that relationship. He doesn't want the credit, but it should be known. And if you did your research reveal that he was the one refereeing a lot of this to keep these guys intact because he knew these two need to work together, and do you think on some level he never got the credit he deserved as an owner because Belichick rang up what he rang up and Brady is who he is? Do you think Belichick relishes the chall excuse me, Kraft relishes the challenge of doing it again with someone who's a little bit more appreciative of his presence? Yeah, he might, but he also understands If Belichick goes somewhere else and wins, it's not going to look good for Robert Kraft.

There are times where Belichick would walk by Kraft in the hallway and not even say hello.

So, Robert Kraft dealt with a lot. And it is a joke that guy's not in the Hall of Fame. I'm not sure how Jerry Jones got into the Hall of Fame ahead of Robert Kraft. But yes, he did a lot of refereeing and probably did not get enough credit behind the scenes for just keeping that Belichick Brady relationship intact for two decades. Yeah.

And I think that if there was going to be a higher, do you believe that Vrabel is a natural? O'Brien isn't natural? Is somebody else out there? I mean, McDaniel obviously failing with the Raiders. And Denver is eliminating himself, but do you think somebody else is there to take over?

Like a vrabel would be a home run. That would be a great hire if he shakes free from Tennessee. I think O'Brien, there's no way he didn't do the job he did this year with the offense. There's no way that he has put himself in a position to get that job. McDaniel's been fired twice now as a head coach.

I don't think so. Vrabel is the home run higher. Brian Flores is another guy raised in that Patriot system, did a pretty good job in Miami, had some issues there.

So obviously he's in Minnesota now as the defensive coordinator. But he was raised in the Belichick way, the Patriot way.

So I think he'd be a factor as well.

So your gut, Ian O'Connor, after all the years of research that you did, the book that you put together, now we're at the point of a potential fracture. Where does Ian O'Connor's money lie if you were a betting person? Listen, he's now the head coach of the Patriots.

Now, in 10 minutes, he might not be, but I would say the Patriots. I think that Kraft, if. Bill made a major concession yesterday publicly. First of all, he never talks about his contract. He did that, but he also suggested now if somebody else wants to run the roster, I might be okay with it.

I can't believe he said that, but he did say it. And so if I had to put $100 on it right now, and I'd probably lose the $100, but I would say next year he's the head coach of the New England Patriots. Love it. Ian, thanks so much. It shows you already how much he wants to keep the job.

I don't think he's maneuvering to get fired. I think it shows he wants to keep the job. It's going to make it very tough for Robert Kraft. And lastly, real quick, Tiger Woods no longer has a relationship with Nike. I did an interview with Phil Knight when his book came out, Chew Dog, and it was so clear how much Tiger meant to him.

And famously, when he got in all his trouble, Phil Knight was the first one to call him. Why do you think they're leaving each other now with his son, with him now more beloved than ever, I would argue, and his son emerging? That's a great question. Nobody has meant more to Nike other than Michael Jordan and Tiger Woods. And even just at the chip shot on 16 in 2005 at the Masters, the logo hanging there on the lip.

and the swoosh and going into the hole. How much money did he make for Nike just on that one sequence at Augusta National?

So I never thought this divorce would happen. But he doesn't play golf that much anymore. And even though he looks a little healthier this year and might play some more tournaments, he's at the end of his career.

So I think that's why the partnership is dissolving. Pretty simple. All right. I want you to hear just a little bit from last night's Michigan win. They pick up the national championship in maybe Jim Harbaugh's last game in college, Cut 29.

Harbaugh has dodged questions about his future, saying, I hope to have one. He did tell us I believe he loves Michigan. I believe he wants to be there. Who knows what kind of offer he'll get. For now, he is enjoying every second coaching his albumato to a national championship.

Hey, it's a polarizing figure. There are people out there that believe that whatever Michigan does is tainted. That's up to you to decide. But hail, hail, Michigan. They are the champions of college football 2023.

Final score 34-13. Does he stay? No. Yeah. I I talked to a source very close to Jim Harbaugh last year.

Who told me how badly he wanted to back into the NFL? The guy was a playaway from winning the Super Bowl. He wants to finish that job.

Now that he's finished the job at Michigan, they've climbed the mountain. And the NCA being all over his back is just another reason to get out of there.

So I would be absolutely shocked if he's not a head coach in the NFL next season. Raiders? Yeah, that's a that's a good fit. It's a really good fit.

Now, I think you want to go someplace where there's a quarterback. And the Raiders right now don't have one. The Chargers do. And so I think Jim knows he has to have the quarterback.

So the Raiders are going to be tempting. And hey, listen, Jim Harbaugh just hired Tom Brady's agent, Don Yee. Tom Brady's involved with Mark Davis, the Raiders' owner.

So that makes a lot of sense, except they don't have a quarterback, and that would give me a lot of pause. The other thing would be: Antonio Pierce is the sentimental favorite to get that job. He called every single head coach he had from Coughlin on down to say, help me keep this. He finished over 500. And I think that a lot of people would like to see him get that job this time.

That's right, and I think Pierce deserves it. I really do.

So I hope he gets the job. If he doesn't, that would mean to me they probably feel like they're getting Jim Harbaugh.

So I think it would be Pierce or Harbaugh there. But but Jim's going to have options. And like you said, if McCarthy loses to the Packers, which I don't see happening, but if somehow that does happen, I think Jerry Jones is going to make a change. And Belichick on the open market, if he gets there and Harbotta, it's going to make for a fascinating two or three weeks. I bet you Parcells picks up the phone and says, Hey, wait a second, you really want to go work for Jerry Jones?

I don't know. I'm not sure that works. I think Parcells enjoyed it. I just know he didn't enjoy the weekly press conferences. Yes.

And so he likes Jerry Jones, but he did not like that part. And Belichick, he cannot have an owner Contradicting things he's saying down the hallway in the press conference room outside the locker room. He just can't have that.

So I don't know how that's going to work, but Jerry's got to be Jerry. It's his team.

So we'll see how it plays out. All right, Ian. Your next project is? A book on Aaron Rodgers, I'm working on it right now, should come out next August. And he stays in the news, so he creates his own news cycles.

So hopefully people will see it for what it's intended to be, and that is a defining portrait of probably the most famous American athlete that doesn't really have that defining book about him yet.

So, hopefully, that's what this is. Absolutely. No doubt it will be. Ian O'Connor, thanks so much. Thank you, Brian.

All right. We'll see if your prediction is accurate. I get the sense it is. Back in a moment. Educating, entertaining, enlightening.

You're with Brian Kilmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. And I know you're on banking committees, and both sides look to you for advice, Jamie. But is it true that you are supporting Nikki Haley? I am.

I didn't come out supporting her. What I came out and said is: I think she makes a good president. I do. She's conservative. I think she'd be a good choice.

I think if you were a Republican and she was there, I think she'd be a very good choice. And I was thinking at the time that if you have reviding Biden versus Haley, that would be a good thing. For the same reasons you can talk about all different things.

So uh and I think she she's a a a qualified person, whether or not you agree with all her policies or not.

So Jamie Devin doesn't make a commitment, but the JPMorgan president and all-time guru, according to some, they're going to high-end investing, he says he's worried about the border. And that was the most intriguing thing yet. Worried about the border. When you were president of Wall Street, excuse me, when you were running Wall Street, yeah, president of J.P. Morgan, and you're worried about the things that we're worried about, everyday people, the people that El Paso are worried about, that Tucson are worried about, Eagle Pass are worried about, because it flooded into Manhattan.

It flooded into Martha's Vineyard. They're seeing what's happening to these states. They're seeing the anger that is generating the money that it costs.

Now, what they're trying to do in New York City is saying, after a certain amount of time, we got to kick you out of the hotels. That's it. We got to get you out of the tents. We can't put you up, especially if you're a single male. You know what they're doing?

Moving in front of the parks. We were putting them up for free. And then they refuse to leave when the cops come. I'm not sure why the cops just don't get rid of them. They get rid of you and I.

I'm not really sure. I hope to see everyone January 21st, Rialto Theater in beautiful Joliet, Illinois. It's Fox Nation co-presenting history right from the start. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music with your Prime membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Mm.