DeSantis throws down with Christie, Vivek attacks Haley in debate #4

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Meat Show.

So glad you're here. Hope to see everyone Friday night in Dayton with WHIO listeners, and over Saturday and Sunday in Kentucky, talking about Teddy and Booker T, two American icons plays a pet to racial equality. We'll talk about that. We also have a lot of other things going on, including I don't know if something's not getting enough attention, and that is what the director of the FBI was saying about possible terror attacks here and what the terrorists look at as our role as Israel takes the offensive in Gaza. Pay attention to that.

Mark Thiessen's coming up this hour. Senator Tommy Tubberville is coming up this hour. First things first, Admiral James Tarvitas is coming up, but first, big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Like I said, I am willing. To make significant compromises on the border, we need to fix the broken border system. It is broken.

And thus far I've gotten no response. 12. People came on Tuesday alone. That is an all-time record. Massive aid for two wars and three allies hangs in the balance as the Republicans play hardball in their quest for massive border reform.

It is worth the fight. Hopefully, they get a resolve before the holidays. Number two. No context. In which the genocide of the Jewish people can be condoned.

And it's certainly not conducive to learning for the poor students. And that is somebody who just resigned as a board member at the University of Pennsylvania, closing in on the mastermind of Gaza. While Ivy League presidents feel the heat from their poisonous testimony, in my view, on Tuesday, one major company now says he will not hire from Yale or Harvard. I imagine many more will say that publicly and do it privately. Being pro-Hamas is still a problem for most of America.

Number one.

So you do think he's a good person. Big result. We should not nominate somebody who's almost 80 years old. He's afraid to answer. No, I'm not.

He's no, you have to either either you're afraid or you're not listening. No, it's not a single question. Debate number four was more personal than political as four contenders take on each other and most punt when asked about Trump.

Next big date, six weeks from now in Iowa. I'm not going to talk politics with my next guest, Admiral James Jeffitas, the 16th Supreme Allied Commander, multi-New York Times best-selling author. Admiral, welcome back. Your thoughts about what hangs in the balance with this aid to Taiwan. Uh Israel At Ukraine.

We've got to get all of it done, and we've got to get the border fixed. And so, on the one hand, I'm nervous that we're not going to get done the vital aid to Ukraine and Israel, which are really my wheelhouse. But I think as Americans, we can recognize we've got to do all this. We have the capacity. We have the money to do it.

If there's something I could say positively, it's that it appears to be a hard-fought negotiation up there on Capitol Hill. Let's hope they can do what governments are supposed to do. Politics is about allocating resources. We can afford to do all three of these things. Let's get it done.

What's the right messaging for non-military people to get it across to them that Ukraine matters? For non-military people, and maybe non-historians, and I'm not putting anybody down who just do a million things and that's just not their thing. Why should they care about Ukraine? Because if we allow Vladimir Putin, a dictator, to simply roll across a border, take over a massive country that is full of natural resources, this would be like Russia conquering something the size and the capacity of Texas. If we allow that to happen, I guarantee you the next thing will be China taking a really hard look at whether a similar strategy might work in Taiwan, which is where the world's semiconductor chips are manufactured.

It would embolden Iran to look at going into the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, where all our oil comes from. Look, I get it on how people say. Ukraine, what's that? Where is that? It's a long way away.

It doesn't matter. But all of this is interconnected. And if we allow the collapse in each of those individual places, we are going to pay the price over time. And I know you said non-historians, but I just have to throw in, we tried this approach about 100 years ago in the 1920s and 30s. And we essentially became isolationists, had no overseas bases, no overseas military engagement.

How did that work out?

Well, we saw the rise of Nazi Germany. We saw Japan's empire conquering territories. And it ended up, Brian, I'll close with this, on the 7th of December, which is what today is, 1941. Let's not repeat that history, and let's understand how important this is in our day-to-day lives.

Well, what has to change about our policy in Ukraine? We need to up our military game, and we can do that within the financial context that is already on the books. And by the way, a lot of people say, oh, the Europeans aren't being part of this. They are. The Europeans, look at the facts here.

The Europeans have spent more money in Ukraine than the United States. And by the way, 20 European countries have spent more per capita, per person, in Ukraine than the United States had. This is not a lot of money in the context of U.S. defense funding. Final thought: our defense budget, appropriately, is about $900 billion.

What we're talking about here for Ukraine is $60 billion. It's 5% of our defense capacity, and it's going to knock out Vladimir Putin.

So we need to put more emphasis, more equipment in the hands of the Ukrainians. When we see some video, we say that it looks like the IDF could be more careful in going after Hamas in Gaza. How do you view it? I think the Israeli Defense Forces have the hardest military problem maybe that I've ever seen, at least in a relatively small space. They have 2.2 million civilians floating around this tiny battlefield the size of Manhattan, and they are expected to somehow conduct these operations, destroy these evil terrorists who were just now learning the full extent of their rapes, their tortures, their mutilations, particularly directed to Israeli women.

The Israeli Defense Forces are somehow expected to conduct a campaign that is simply without civilian casualty. That would be great. But it's not realistic.

So there is going to be some level of civilian casualties. What we do expect the Israelis to do is minimize that. And they're not out there raping Palestinian women. They're not out there mutilating corpses of Palestinian children. They are obeying the rules of law, and they need to minimize civilian casualties.

But we need to recognize very hard problems. They're surrounding the mastermind of this operation, no one denies it, who was in an Israeli prison for 20 years. Sinwar is his place surrounded right now. Hopefully, he's either killed or captured shortly. Having said that, you still got between 5,000 and 20,000 fighters to get to.

How do you get through crowds of civilians to get to these fighters? And how can you possibly complete this job without doing that? First on the mastermind, Sinwar, he's in his hometown, Hanyunis. The Israelis are closing in. It is not an exaggeration to say he is the bin Laden figure from an American perspective.

So huge military target. Good hunting is what I say to the Israeli Defense Forces. In terms of how you get after the between five, I'd say the estimates I've seen, Brian, are more like 5,000 to 10,000 actually semi-trained, semi-armed.

So it's not a huge number.

So the way you do it, and what you're seeing now is a shift. From the Israelis using their air campaign to take down large. Facilities where the terrorists are located.

Now they're moving foot soldiers into the battlefield. The most precise weapon on a battlefield is not a precision-guided bomb, a precision-guided missile. It's an infantryman.

So you move them in, you separate the women and children, you start doing retinal eye scans. The Israelis have a huge database of the bad actors. You apprehend them. If they try and resist, you kill them. That's how you do it.

And then what? Let's say this operation takes three more months to get most of them out. What does Gaza look like, Admirals Tavidis? There will be a significant destruction to the infrastructure, probably. 30 percent, 25 to 30 percent of the total infrastructure.

So there'll be an ongoing humanitarian effort. The security situation will hopefully be stabilized. At that point, Brian, I'd say three months from now, the Israelis will be looking for the exits in the sense that they don't want to govern, they don't want to run security in Gaza. What they will want to do is turn it over to some combination of the Palestinian Authority, the Arab League, and the United Nations. We're a long way from that point in that negotiation.

I think that's the logical next step for the Israelis. I'm sure even as they conduct this tactical campaign, they're thinking through that longer-term effort of to whom can they hold this over. Final thought: they will also create a wider buffer zone, a military-controlled buffer zone, which failed so miserably last time. That's got to be deepened and strengthened.

So, we see that our civilian share. Commercial ships are being targeted now, thanks to the Houthi rebels and their supporters.

So it's affecting shipping lanes, it's commercial economies at this point. They're actually aiming at us. Over eighty strikes, four returned, maybe five. How would you handle this? How would you get back on the front foot and get to the heart of the problem, which is Iran?

Well, exactly. And whenever people say the Houthi rebels are attacking ships, my gentle correction is Tehran is attacking ships. This is a campaign that almost certainly is being orchestrated by the Iranian mullahs, the rotten theocracy in Tehran. How I would get at it is, I would use Some of the techniques I used as Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, Brian, where we had a huge Somali pirate infestation in those waters. And it's a combination of military warships on station, working with the private sector, the shipping companies.

I think they need security teams on many of these ships and convoying them. But having said all that, we have to make Iran pay a price.

So I would be saying to Iran: if this continues, we're going to go after Iranian maritime assets, starting with your oil and gas platforms in the Arabian Gulf, for example. We've got to construct a strategy that says to Iran, this is unacceptable at sea, just as it is unacceptable ashore. Admiral, do you believe this administration is much too risk-adverse? And do you believe the Secretary of Defense is making that decision, or does that come from the White House? I think it comes from the White House.

All decisions at this level always do. I can't speak for what my good friend and contemporary, former General Lloyd Austin, thinks personally because he is a real professional who, when he's in that position, he is going to support the administration. To answer the question, are they too risk-adverse? I think the answer is yes. And I think it manifests in Ukraine.

If we had gotten more advanced weapons earlier in the hands of the Ukrainians, F-16s, ATACOMs, they're flowing now. Boy, we're almost two years into this thing. Could have gone sooner, risk-averse. And same thing in response to Iran. Iran continues to plink away at us our contractors and soldiers ashore in the Middle East.

Now, these maritime assets, I think it's time to deliver a stronger, more military response to Iran. Interesting. And lastly, Mark Thiethen outlined it. First, you go further. Most of the money that we spend in Ukraine stays here.

This is U.S. money, right? Absolutely. And I complimented Mark on the column he wrote about that. I worked with Mark when I was chief of staff in the Pentagon, senior military assistant to Secretary Rumsfeld.

Mark was his speechwriter. Mark is a smart thinker, and he outlines perfectly why this makes financial sense. I wish I'd mentioned that earlier. Thanks for bringing it up. Tell Mark I said hello.

Yeah, glad the Washington Post column explains it. It is no spin, it's fact. When you have American companies make these munitions off contracts, the money goes to these American companies because we're the only ones that can make it. It goes out to our allies, some of which are writing checks for it back. Hopefully, that is places like Taiwan, who's waiting actually for delivery.

Admiral, absolutely. Hey, last thought on that. All of this. Strengthens our defense industrial base, which has to turn and spin and make new things and get them in the. It's like exercises, muscle movements.

And we're not losing a single soldier in combat, but we're strengthening our defense and we're blocking Vladimir Putin. It's good value for the dollars. And I'm pushing my luck. I'm against the break, but, Guyana, tell everyone why this matters. Venezuela is just going to take it.

It's the biggest discovery of oil in, I think, 50 years. And Venezuela is just going to march there. They don't have a military. They are begging for our help. We've got to help the Guianese.

And this is another example of people who will say, well, why would we want to help a country I've never even heard of? And the answer is: if you don't, you are going to simply cede a huge chunk of money to another ruthless dictator, Nicolas Maduro, from Caracas, Venezuela, another place where a little bit of effort early could stop a dictator. Right. I just hope we have the ability to look elsewhere. Admiral, thanks so much.

You really helped our audience. Appreciate it. Thanks, Brian. Say hi to Mark Keith inform me. I will.

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This is the forest debate. The fourth debate that you would be voted in the first 20 minutes as the most obnoxious blowhard in America.

So shut up for me, I'm going to.

So, do everybody a favor, just walk yourself off that stage, enjoy a nice meal, and get the hell out of this way. He was learning about the provinces in Ukraine, sitting with his smart ass mouth at Harvard. If you're too timid to take on Trump, Believe me. Others will see that timidity. G.

Putin and the Ayatollah. the border crossers on the southern border and the criminals in our streets. I've got these three guys who are all seemingly to compete with Voldemort. He or shall not be named. They don't want to talk about it.

That is Chris Christie was real strong last night. But nobody doubts his debates, and his skills and his knowledge are off the charts. But only 28% of Republicans support him. And Donald Trump's got 82 percent, as was pointed out last night. And as Chris Chris came out this morning, sounded just as strong.

But he's done this before. He speaks to Republican audiences against Trump. And one of the questions I asked him today, maybe we'll pull it later in the show, is: look, you agreed with him for three years, three and a half years. You know, when you didn't, you spoke up about it. For the most part, you liked his policies.

So and you also said the reason why he might be slipping is not because of his age, but because of the stress he's under.

So what changed? Is it just january sixth? Then he said no, there were some other things that happened along the way. But Chris Kirstie, as you know, played a valuable role in giving him suggestions and how to staff once he got the nomination. And Jared Kushner, as much as I like him, made a huge mistake in throwing it all in the garbage.

That got Trump off to a terrible start. I thought for a while he was going to be chief of staff. I think it would have been great for Trump to have him chief of staff. It would have been a great attorney general. But now I think that after watching last night, I'll play some of these clips maybe Uh for Mark Thiessen.

You see him come to the aid of Nikki Haley. I thought that was pretty cool. Because there are personal attacks, you'll hear that. And I'm wondering if he's saying to himself, Nikki Haley's going to get the nomination. Maybe I can't, but if I don't get the nomination, man, I'd like to serve in the White House.

And that's what he does. I think he's got a great personal, his personal career is going great. I think that he does want to serve, though, and he's still in his 50s. Mark Thiessen's coming up next. And Senator Tommy Tubber, though, what an hour.

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You're with Brian Kilmead. Nikki, you were bankrupt when you left the UN. After you left the UN, you became a military contractor, you actually started joining service on the board of Boeing, whose back you scratched for a very long time, and then gave foreign multinational speeches like Hillary Clinton is, and now you're a multi-millionaire. That math does not add up. It adds up to the fact that you are corrupt.

Yeah, what a stretch. I have not heard that from anyone, let alone. Vivek Ramaswamy, somebody else who wants to be president, Mark Thiessen, former chief speechwriter for George W. Bush, Fox News contributor, Washington Post columnist. Mark, you wouldn't even acknowledge it.

And then Vivek came up with a sign that said corrupt. Do you think that fits the description of? Nikki Haley? No, not at all. Oh my God.

Vivet Brahmaswamy is what my old boss Jesse Helms used to call the south side of a horse-headed north. It's the same. You know? He called Christy fat. He called her corrupt.

This is a guy who took money from the Chinese Communist Party. From the same princelings who were funneling money to Hunter Biden, he was going into business with them. And he has the nerve to call Haley corrupt. I mean, he is such a joke. I honestly, and the stuff that he was saying out there, the personal insults, everything, no conservative with any self-respect should give this guy a platform to speak after this race is over.

He shouldn't have been on that stage. He has no chance of getting the Republican nomination. Honestly, I love Chris Christie. He's a great guy. He doesn't have a chance of the nomination.

That should have been a DeSantis-Haley debate. And every moment that we spent. Focusing on Vivek Ramaswamy, what he said was a distraction and a disgusting one at that. Here's what Chris Christie did when he heard one of those attacks, cutting on. This is the Force debate.

The fourth debate that you would be voted in the first 20 minutes as the most obnoxious blowhard in America.

So shut up for no longer. We're now 25 minutes into this debate, and he has insulted Nikki Haley's basic intelligence. Not her positions, her basic intelligence. She doesn't know regions. She wouldn't be able to find something on a map that his three-year-old could find.

Look, If you want to disagree on issues, that's fine. And Nikki and I disagree on some issues. But I'll tell you this, I've known her for 12 years, which is longer than he's even started to vote in the Republican primary. And while we disagree about some issues... Yeah, so so he went on.

He went on to say, you know, then they came back with a personal attack, and Vivek says, Get off the stage and basically go have a meal, commenting on Chris Christie's weight.

So it got personal. But you could come back and say, if you're a Vivek's fan, will you call me a blowhard?

So essentially, I'm wondering what happened between those two, between the personal attacks, between Vivek. And Nikki Haley. And Nikki Haley looked at it and she had a strategy. Her strategy was don't fumble. Her strategy was, I met with Jamie Dimon, I met with some higher-ups.

In Wall Street, don't fumble. Do you agree with that, Mark? That was her strategy. Don't fumble the ball. You're on a bit of a roll?

She's she's Look, she's doing great. I think the fact I thought, you know, the first 20 minutes was nothing but everybody coming after her. And she, you know, I think she had a good line when she said, thanks for the attention, fellas. You know, they're going after her because she's surging. And, you know, the idea that she's beholden to Wall Street executives, I mean, people raise money from these people all the time.

The fact is they're not giving to the other candidates, and that's why they're jealous. She's surging because she has done well in these debates, because she has performed well, because what she's saying is resonating with the American people. And particularly on foreign policy, I was just at the Reagan Defense Forum in Simi Valley, and they just released their poll. They do an annual poll of foreign policy attitudes of the American people. And the American people are not isolationists.

The poll shows strong support, bipartisan support, for standing with Ukraine, for standing with Israel, for standing with Taiwan. It shows strong support for increasing defense spending. It shows strong support for the Reagan Doctrine. In fact, if you tell people, and the Reagan Institute poll shows, if you tell people that our support for Israel and Ukraine and Taiwan is part of a Reagan Doctrine strategy of helping our allies defend themselves against aggression, the support goes up by 10 points.

So, you know, this idea that somehow she's out of step with the Republican Party and with the country is insane. They're the ones who are out of step with the Republican Party and the country. All right, here's what President Biden said yesterday about Ukraine: Cut 31. Putin attacks a NATO ally. If he keeps going and then he attacks a NATO ally, Where we've committed as a NATO member that we defend every inch of NATO territory.

Then we'll have something. that we don't seek. and that we don't have today. American troops fighting Russian troops.

Well, I mean, that's true. And he will absolutely do that in my opinion. He's already infiltrating Georgia, Moldova. Lithuania says they expect to be somewhat infiltrated or attacked within five years. I get it.

But the other thing is, I also believe the Republicans should demand border reform. Not just, I don't want just a wall and a more soft side of tents and judges, border reform. They got to start working on these asylum issues. It could be done together. Mark, is it possible?

It is possible, and they're 100% right for demanding it. Look, the most devastating argument that the anti-Ukraine Republicans make, and they're a minority in the Republican Party, they do not have a majority view, but the most devastating argument they make is Joe Biden cares about Ukraine's borders more than our own. And the problem with it and why it's so devastating is 'cause it's true. He does care about Ukraine's borders more than our borders. I care about both.

And America is a superpower, and we can defend our own borders and also help Ukraine defend its borders against unjust aggression. These things are not incompatible. We're the most powerful superpower in the history of the world, the most powerful military in the history of the world. We can do both. But when Biden refuses to secure our borders and allows You know, 1.7 million gotaways to come in this country.

People, you know, when you're coming to the border right now, if you just hand yourself over to Border Patrol, you're fine. No, you get to stay.

So why would you be a gotaway? It's because you're a criminal, it's because you're a terrorist, it's because you've got some reason why they would deport you. And so we've got to secure our border, and I think they should demand that he secure the border in exchange for this aid. They're absolutely right to do it. Right.

And President Biden, yesterday, they want to do a side deal on the border. No, the Democrats won't vote for it, and they'll still get their aid. I believe that Israel's got to be funded, most agree with that. Ukraine's got to be funded, less and less agree with that. And Taiwan's got to be supported.

But Taiwan's problem is different. They ordered stuff a long time ago. We haven't delivered on it. We haven't had the capacity for some reason. We want to get them some more aid.

But, Mark, I've got to ask you in the big picture, in terms of the actual legislation, you've been there before. Can they get this done in a week? And what do you want to see? Asylum changes, where if you come here illegally, you can't get in. Immediate deportation, funding for the financing of that deportation to their home countries.

What do you plan on? What would it look like?

Well, first of all, let me challenge you in that you're saying that support for Ukraine is going down. There's more vocal opposition to Ukraine, but it's not. Again, the Reagan issue came out. A year ago, fifty percent of Republicans supported giving aid to Ukraine. Today, it's unchanged.

It's the same. Despite the fact that the anti-Ukraine Republicans have been agitating against it for a year. And the fact that 50% of Republicans support a policy of the Biden administration, even when it's being incompetently executed without a strategy for victory and all the rest of it, shows that there's deep-seated support in the Republican Party for doing the right thing.

So I just don't buy it. But look, the problem isn't just money. in the in the border look We don't actually need legislation to secure the border. Joe Biden has all the same laws and all the same funding mechanisms and all the same authorities that Donald Trump and Barack Obama had when they secured the border. They're th it's a choice.

It is a choice to not use those authorities. It is a choice to not to abuse the asylum process. And so they have to have legislation that's not just more money. It has to be forcing changes in policy. That will allow us to actually force this administration to actually secure the border.

Right. So, change in policy, yet, some more financing to finish the wall. But it's a high-tech wall. It's not just a big full of pipes. This is a high-tech wall.

There's money there. They are selling it off on pennies on the dollar right now. It sits in the desert. Mark Thiessen, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Take care. All right.

So, Mark's got to run. And when we come back, we're going to be with Senator Tommy Tubberville of Alabama. Interesting, because the senator backed off after a long period of time and decided, I'm going to back off and let these military promotions and advancements happen and retirements take place. It was all over this abortion stance with the Pentagon. Don't move, Brian Kilmeets here.

Newsmakers and newsbreakers. Here at first on the Brian Kilmeet Show. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. We didn't get what we wanted, and you know, when they change the rules, it's hard to win.

And just unfortunate, American people didn't get a voice. I'm releasing everybody. I've still got a hold on. I think he's. weapons Sergeant.

Everybody else is completely released from me. Finally, lifting his unnecessary and harmful holds on our nation's military officials. I'm happy that we can finally move forward and give these men and women the promotions they deserve.

So, Senator Tommy Tuberville joins us now. Senator, you're in the eye of the storm for hundreds of days. Your goal was? Can you explain to everyone and what w what stopped you from achieving it?

Well, I never dreamed, Brian, it would go for almost a year. And We were holding up people that needed to be promoted. I'm a military brat, so there's nobody who likes the military more than me and understands the need for it. I never dreamed when I put the hold on of a Overreach of Joe Biden and changing the policy, and taxpayers having to pay for. up something to do with abortion.

Never dreamed that they would never negotiate. Um and this these people are evil. I mean, they care nothing about the military. They could have solved this in an hour's meeting of sitting down and let's work out some details. But they they wouldn't even meet.

And so that was my first thing that I tried to do was negotiate for almost a year. But my hope Endgame was I knew I could get it passed through the NDAA, which is the military budget, which will be voted on next week. Problem is We've always had an opportunity to sit down as a Senate and the House and Armed Services Committee, which I'm on. And vote for different subjects. I had Democrat votes that were going to vote for me to leave the old policy in.

Schumer found that out and he said, no, we're not going to vote on it. I'm going to change the rules here and I'm going to make decisions what's in our budget for the year. I mean, you can't beat these people. And so after that, I even had Republicans that were against me. You know, they didn't want to, they were going to vote to go around me and change the rules of the Senate of 200 years.

And I said, we're not doing that. I'll fight it another day. And so I released them and they got what they wanted. The Democrats, they got taxpayer-funded abortion in the military and executive overreach. But we will continue to fight.

So do you regret it? Oh no, oh no, no. It actually brought out a lot of people that I would never trust. Again, I mean, you know, you're supposed to stand for something and you don't. I tell you what, I had some Democrats that were on my side the entire time.

It's just when you got a referee that changes the rule in midstream, you can't do it. But why would you not sit down, Brian, when you've got all these people for promotion. Why would you not sit down, coach, let's work this out? Let's at least try to work it out. They never intended to.

They don't care anything about the unborn. We know that, the Democrats. They don't care anything about the military, to be honest with you. They're destroying every day with the more wokeness that they're putting into it. You wouldn't believe the things that we see on Armed Services Committee.

It's a disaster waiting to happen. But that being said, that's the reason. Elections have consequences. We've got to get a Republican back into the White House. If we don't, we're going to lose our country.

We might lose it anyway because we're so far gone at the border and with our foreign policy and our debt, our 33 trillion in debt going on 34. Senator Tuckerville, you know, and one thing too is you guys got to get the Senate back. And that means Montana, that means West Virginia. That means possible Pennsylvania will be tough, and possible Michigan. Also, the Senate seat in Arizona is very much up for grabs.

How involved are you with this? Yes, and I do agree with you. And we got some great opportunities, Brian. We're going to do a lot of campaigning, a lot of fundraising. But I'm like you.

You love the country. I love the country. I'm not a politician. I've been up here three years, Brian. But the one thing I have noticed Is you can run the Senate and you can control the House.

If you don't have that White House, You can't win. And we have got to win the White House. And another after President Trump, you know I'm a Trump guy. He's the only guy I think can get us back on track because he doesn't care. I mean, he's going to do what's right for the country.

He's not doing it for lobbyists or whatever. We can't have a career politician. We've got to get somebody that's going to stand up for the taxpayer for once. Once in the last three years, I would have loved to have seen somebody stand up for the taxpayer. That has not happened like President Trump did for four years.

And they hated it and they ran him out and they got what they want. And now's the time to get it back. Because if we don't, it's I mean, I I'd hate to see what's going to happen to our country.

Now it's front and center. You got 400 promotions that are going to take place, everything moves forward. But now it's front and center. It's going to be this package of $100 billion to Israel. Taiwan.

Ukraine, and you guys have said, I got to get border in this. Here's the President yesterday, Cut 32. Republicans have to decide if they want a political issue, if they want a solution at the border. Do they really want a solution? It cannot be sustained as it is now.

We need a real solution. Does he really doubt that you guys want a solution at the border? I mean, I keep hearing you want a political issue. I don't know anybody seeing Bill Melusian or Griff Jenkins who feels good about a political anything political coming out of the border.

So what do you plan on doing, Senator Tubberville?

Well Finally, we got most of the Republicans on board and saying nothing. No money goes out of this country. We don't care where it goes until we fix the border. And the problem is, everybody says, well, we build a fence for $8 billion. No, no.

You've got to have policies and you have to have laws. The problem is, This administration is lawless, Brian. They don't, we can put in all the laws in the world. They're not gonna go by them. We have laws down there right now that's Border Patrol.

We talk to them weekly. They said, just let us go by the law. And the Biden administration and Majorkas, who should be run out of this country, will not let them do that. They have an agenda in mind. Brian, we had four thousand Chinese men 15 to 35 years old in the last couple of weeks have come across that border.

Now, why do you think that's happened? And how in the hell do they get out of China to come over here? We are in trouble. And even Christopher May, whatever his name is from the FBI, is even saying he's on the Democrats team. He's even saying we're in trouble.

And so it is uh it's I heard you guys had a very scary briefing uh yesterday, counterterror briefing. Ray was direct, and there you had there was another briefing yesterday, and there is a five-alarm fire coming our way for the holidays. They uh all multiple terror groups here. Oh, they're everywhere, Brian. We've let in over 10 million people, and we don't know who they are.

And these people don't care. That's what amazes me. They do not care what happens. And you've got senators that are Democrats from Arizona and California. What are y'all thinking?

What are y'all thinking? Y'all just like power? You like to have center in front of your name? How about being an American for once? I mean, this makes you sick at your stomach.

Understood.

So, Center, we'll see what happens. Do you think they'll get some type of settlement on the border, something you guys will find acceptable before Christmas? No, no, it's not going to happen because they're bound and determined to keep pulling money through Ukraine back into whoever's pockets because it, I mean, that's a disaster. We need to help Ukraine, but my God, folks, that money is not going to fight a war. It's going to people's pockets and going to pay for the government of Ukraine.

I mean, all we're doing is pumping them up. And I want to win that. I want to beat Russia back. Gotcha. Senator, thanks so much.

Senator Tommy Tuberville and the Eye of the Storm. Thanks so much for helping us out. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, Brian Kilmet here.

Thanks so much for listening. I come to you from Midtown Manhattan, 48th and 6th, where it is crazy. We've got a great tree. It has now become a tourist attraction and a magnet for these lunatics that want to rally for Hamas and the Palestinian cause. And on October 6th, you couldn't even tell that you wouldn't even know that they knew there is a Palestinian cause, but suddenly, It's everyone's cause.

I believe that they're getting paid. I would not doubt that there's someone financing all this, the so-called surge to Brooklyn and everything like that. We're following the president, the former president of the United States. The civil trial continues. He just made some remarks.

We'll bring some of that back. And let me remind you: if you ever want the podcast, if you ever can't listen to live, go to BrianKillmeeShow.com. This hour, we're going to be joined by Jason Smith from the House Ways and Means Committee. He is the chairman, and Ambassador David Friedman standing by.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Like I said, I am William. To make significant compromises on the border, we need to fix the broken border system, it is broken. And so far, I've gotten no response.

And you broke it, and there's been non-stop response, including House hearings down at the border. Massive aid for two wars and three allies hangs in the balance. As Republicans play a hard ball when it comes to their quest for massive border reform and a wall, this is worth the fight. Number two. No context.

In which the genocide of the Jewish people can be condoned. And it's certainly not conducive to learning for the poor students. Pretty amazing, right? That is one of the UPenn board members, one of the trustees who just resigned, because of the despicable way in which they testify, all these Ivy League leaders, closing in on the mastermind in Gaza. While Ivy League presidents feel the heat for their poisonous testimony on Tuesday, and many major companies, including Barstool, say they will not hire from Yale or Harvard.

I imagine many more, quietly and publicly, will follow suit. Number one, deliver you big results. We should not nominate somebody who's almost 80 years old. He's afraid to answer. No, you have to.

Either you're afraid or you're not listening. No, it's not. That's a pseudo question. Wow, that is how crazy it got yesterday. Christie and DeSantis debate four was more personal than political as the final four contenders take on each other and the most punt when it comes to Trump outside Chris Christie.

Next big date, six weeks in Iowa. Who will survive? We will have the highlights. Let's bring Ambassador David Friedman, one of the key people during the Trump administration, and one of the reasons why the Israeli capital was able to be recognized. We were able to move our embassy to Jerusalem, where the capital of Israel is.

Ambassador, welcome back. Thanks, Brian. It's great to be with you again. Ambassador, first off, what could you tell us on the progress of the actual IDF in southern Gaza? The butcher, they call him the butcher of Conyunis.

He is surrounded. He was a former prisoner, 60 years old. This guy, Sinwarth, who they said is the mastermind of the October 7th attacks. What could you tell us? Do you know?

Uh I think it's going really well. I think today was uh Uh, it was was a a terrific day for the IDF. I just saw some footage. of uh two hundred uh Hamas terrorists surrendering. In con units, they're all kind of lined up and heading back to being taken back to Israel for questioning.

Got to believe that with that type of a wealth of potential intelligence, they will find Sinoir. shortly and uh you know I I think the um I think it may be a turning point in the war, even. I mean, I think it was really a good day today for the IDF, and things are going well. Do you worry? Do you worry about the humanitarian corridors for now that the IDF is moving to the south, where they told where you where Israel has said that's where you move if you want to be safe, now that they're in the north, do you worry about the corridors?

No, I think they've created, you know, safe zones. They've created escape routes. I think it would be. Of course, it would be great if the Egyptians would allow some movement into Safe space in Egypt because they're right on the border as well.

So far, that's been a challenge. It's always been a challenge. It's been a challenge for years to get. the Egyptians to help in uh in Gaza. But um yeah, look, I I think that um Israel is, you know, uh taking extra Extra care to keep these areas open.

By the way, they're probably doing more. Certainly, a lot more than is in their military best interests. I mean, they're letting a lot of fuel come in. They're letting a lot of other stuff come in. It's almost always commandeered by Hamas.

There's been some footage coming out the last few days of Gazins. basically turning on Hamas, and that's the other thing which I think is is helpful there. The people there are starting to realize just what kind of a calamity Hamas has brought upon the people of Gaza. And they're seeing it in real time as supplies come in. And then as soon as the the suppliers are out of sight, Hamas comes and takes takes all the food and takes all the fuel.

So I think the humanitarian efforts You know, they're not perfect, but if they're if they're if they're getting worse, it's only because Hamas is is making them worse. And I think that I think Israel's doing a pretty good job. What's going on behind the scenes in terms of pressuring Netanyahu to finish this up? I I get the sense there's a lot of pressure and which which is I I think really lamentable because Look, the the the quicker Israel wins this war, the quicker people's lives can start to get rebuilt. And by by causing Israel to slow down, I mean by asking Israel To use less air power in more house-to-house combat.

They're prolonging the battle. They're causing Israel to put their own.

Soldiers at greater risk, and it's not helpful. And frankly, you know, Blinken is. Is not qualified to make military decisions, to sit in the war cabinet and help and tell Israel how to make the military decision. It's kind of ridiculous. I think Israel's tolerating it to a cert to a certain extent.

They they kind of have to. I mean, the Problem is for Israel is that they've used up so much ammo and so much So much iron dump with so much rockets, and they do need American help. And so I think this is a constant. points of friction and negotiation and resolution that goes on every single day with Israel. I wish America would just leave Israel alone.

I think that would be, frankly, the most humanitarian way to get this war over, destroy Hamas and move on. But they do need our weapons. They do need Iron Dome and the other missile defense systems replenished. And we are on the line of fire with these militias, these Iranian sponsors, militias in Iraq, Syria, and now the Houthi rebels shooting at commercial ships and our ships.

So this is our fight, too. I'd love to have seen more strength in return. How would that resonate in the Middle East if we started showing a little bit more aggression? Look, it's the only language that is understood in the Middle East is strengthened when this isn't a hypothesis. This is proven.

I mean, we saw that ourselves in Our four years in government, you know, when we brought Iran to the brink of bankruptcy. And when we took out the Casum Suleimani, we know, we knew We knew, as a matter of fact, that the Iranians were concerned. They were pulling back. They were realizing that they had to limit their malign activity because things would just get worse for them. When Biden came in and he opened up this bigot for oil sales, he made Iran a very rich country.

They took all the money and they didn't use it to build hospitals or schools. They used it to buy more missiles and fund more malign activities.

So it's the pressure we put on Iran. is directly proportional. To the level of quiet in the Middle East. The more pressure, the more quiet. The less pressure, the more things flame out.

And of course, because. Because Biden, you know, has uh has failed in Afghanistan and failed with Russia and Ukraine. He can't open up another front. He can't allow another front to open up.

So he's tiptoeing around the Iranians, and that's only empowering the terrorists around the region, whether it's the Houthis or the Hamas or Zawah. He's just making them more empowered and more bullish. And of course, it's going the wrong way. Former Israeli ambassador, the U.S. Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, with us.

David, I'm sure you saw the testimony for these presidents of Harvard, Yale, MIT earlier this week. It has created quite outrage around the country. Barstool founder Dave Portnoy vows to not hire anyone from Harvard or Penn. There's a big push to have the Penn president fired, and one of their key trustees has just resigned, Von Gregorian, cut 22. It's time to actually be a working trustee and to speak up when things aren't right.

and not rubber stamp. You know what goes on just because the chairman of the board says it's the thing to do, or the president says it's the thing to do. In your heart, if you know it's wrong, you need to step up. and say that it's the wrong thing.

So he's out. And many other people are out. Tell me, what are your thoughts about this anti-Semitic behavior that they refuse to condemn and to push back against? What was your thought about that testimony?

Well, you know, Thank God Congress did that. Kudos to all the members of Congress who pushed back. Republicans and Democrats, I think it was a turning point. I think it was really a turning point, maybe in American history, because these universities are so influential. In the future leadership of our country.

And I think, you know, I said this on Twitter. I think, you know, what happened here is. You know, the Ivy League died, you know, there. I mean, people just looked at it and said, What what in the world are people paying a hundred thousand dollars a year? for this kind of an education.

The emperors have no clothes. I mean, these people are truly are not just bad educators, but they're truly filling our students, the future leaders of America, with poison. And I was struck, Brian, by how poorly prepared they were, by how smug and arrogant they were. I mean, they have lawyers. They were completely lawyered up.

They had PR firms giving them advice. And they just completely blew it. They they looked at these congressmen as if they were beneath them, as if these issues were beneath them, as if they knew better than anybody. And it was a great window. It was an incredible window into the workings of the elite academia in this country.

And it was really found to be I think lacking in in value, any values at all.

So I think this could, you know, I think I was heartened by it because I think people now could see, you know, what it's like. And remember, you know, when it comes to MIT, Harvard, and Penn and others, you know, probably 98% of the people who apply get rejected.

So you're starting off with an angry crowd alike to start with. And then on top of that, you know, you see what they're teaching case. I thought it was an incredible day in American history. And I just need these Jewish kids need to be protected right away. Ambassador David Friedman, thanks so much.

Appreciate it. Yeah, my pleasure. Thanks, Brian. You got it. Back in a moment.

Politics, current events, and news that affects you. Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show.

Liberals say so. Stupid the way that they handle Trump. Wait, you should shut up! He's a narcissist. Neutral energy.

Yeah. Neutral. You think he'd go away? You know what I think he was? I think he was a one-hit wonder.

Uh-huh. Right? He wrote the twist, and then that was it. He was on the casino circuit, and then you idiot liberals wrote him twist again when you indicted him. And now he's a martyr.

And he's coming back, Jimmy. And he went on. That is Bill Burr, one of the great comedians out there who he and his wife dislike Trump, but don't know who they're going to pick now, and just said, by constantly haranguing him with these lawsuits and now with the indictments and the charges, you've made him a martyr. Look, how else do you explain that he has come from neck and neck with Ron DeSantis right after the 2022 election to On with the polls and I don't wanna be a hypocrite and all of a sudden believe all the polls, 'cause I don't. And plus, in Iowa, I've been in experience.

If I didn't experience the caucuses firsthand, I would think a poll is a poll and a primary as a primary and a caucus is a caucus. But I sat in those rooms and I watched people get up and go, you got to vote for Marco Rubio. And let me tell you the type of Marco Rubio I know. And let me look at Governor Christie. And you have to go ahead and go for Mitt Romney.

And I'm thinking to myself, wow. These people are really at mini rallies here. And if you fill the right room with the right people, you could convince people.

So that should make it so unique.

So if there's something comes down on Donald Trump that surprises everybody and he's back down to his core, rather than every Republican, he's got. You know, over 80% of all Republicans supporting him. It could be a different story. But if I believe the polls and if he takes Iowa convincingly, it's Ron DeSantis is done. He's got the governor.

He's got the top evangelical leader in Van Bob Vanderplatt. And they've done to 99 counties without a strong ground game in New Hampshire.

So that would leave. Uh Vivek who is Uh Trump light. And then you have Chris Christie, who's not going to have the funding. I don't think to stay on the stage next time out, I don't think he's going to have the polls, even if he does have the funding. And then it would just it would leave Nikki Haley one-on-one.

So I think she's playing it tactically pretty smart. Personally, I do. And the President of the United States former President of the United States got his town hall on Tuesday, so you got the chance to hear from him. Here's Chris Christie. On the man that Many people did not want to bring up last night, and I understand tactically why, but here's Chris Christie, cut 22.

I think it's completely predictable. I mean, look, he's made it very clear. There's no mystery to what he wants to do. He started off his campaign by saying, I am your retribution. Eight years ago, he said, I am your voice.

This is an angry, bitter man who now wants to be back as president because he wants to exact retribution on anyone. Who has disagreed with him, anyone who has tried to hold him to account for his own conduct. And every one of these policies that he's talking about are about pursuing a plan of retribution. And yet, at the first debate, my three colleagues on this stage, when asked if he would be convicted of federal felonies, would they still support him, raised their hand, looked into the camera? And let everybody know that they would still support him, even if convicted of felonies.

Because he believes, and like a lot of people, this is all trumped up. They waited two years to file him. Jack Smith is just enraged. He's got Trump derangement syndrome. Came back from The Hague to prosecute Trump.

He didn't come back to investigate. He came out to prosecute, flipped his lawyers.

Now they got a bunch of charges.

Now there's some investigation going on that the Georgia prosecutor was trying to get the January 6th transcripts before there was even charges done.

So she wasn't out investigating. She was out hunting, hunting for maybe a trophy for a trophy case. I'm not saying that Donald Trump is clean in any or all these cases. I'm saying that this is an over-aggression, especially in the civil trial right now, to go after Trump. I don't see it.

And that's what a lot of people are saying. Listen. What I'm seeing right now. A guy clearly having problems walking, talking, and the policies are terrible. The foreign policy is on fire.

The world's on fire. I'll go with the other guy. The question is: will be somebody else in that party. That's where I disagree with Chris Christie. President of the United States is not doing anything different than he did in 2016.

He says, I'm your retribution, I'm your voice. He's saying, Listen, we've got sidelined. He believes the election was stolen. I don't believe it was stolen. I believe that you manipulated certain things.

There were certain things that broke their way during the pandemic. I don't believe the election was stolen. But that's what he's saying. And uh Yu Yu had even said it himself. He came out and said, look, Donald Trump is a lot of things.

But In terms of this whole narrative of he's going to be a dictator like Napoleon. Cut sixteen. Donald Trump says a lot of things. They're often very funny and they're often, huh? But you know what?

He has four years behind him. He's not a dictator. He's not an authoritarian. He's not got there aren't no army in the field. It's just silly to me.

It just strikes me as silly. And that's what he did last week on One Nation, which is going to be Saturday. This Saturday, we've got Dave Portnoy coming on amongst our great guests.

So, and he made a major announcement about Barstool not hiring anyone from MIT, Harvard, or University of Pennsylvania because of what he saw with those presidents. But Dave Portnoy is going to be on, like many people. I'll look at it this and say, yeah, you want to go after Trump? Go after his four years. Go after how many people he rotated through.

Go after you don't like the fact that you're not an election. But don't say that he's going to be an authoritarian because there's limits to his power. And people are saying, well, he's going to hire a bunch of people that. Uh That he likes all his friends. Yeah, that's what people usually do.

Harry Truman brought people in from Kansas, Bill Clinton brought people in from Arkansas. George Bush brought experience and his friends into key positions. Donald Trump's going to have a much better idea of who belongs where. But that doesn't mean he's going to be a dictator. And I feel like you guys, there's a lot of things criticized about Donald Trump.

Don't say if he wins, he's going to become a king. And he's not going to leave. The most ridiculous thing I've heard is. If he wins, he's not going to leave him for you, he's going to stay forever. Same possible.

I mean, he's going to be 82 years old. He's going to get back to his life. That's it. And the thing is, I don't think he wants it. I'm not even convinced he wants it this time.

He wants to, he does want to get his four years he believes belonged to him four years ago. That's it. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. Can you explain to the Americans to Americans at this impeachment inquiry why you interacted with so many of your son and brother's foreign business associates?

I'm not going to comment that I did not, and it's just a bunch of lies. You didn't interact with their office associates? I did not. They're the lies.

So I'm not going to comment, but they're all lies. They're not all lies. Just like 51 Intel agents said it was on my son's laptop when we know you knew it was your son's laptop. It was your voice on the voicemail there. These were emails to you, but Leon Panetta and everybody else didn't even pick up the phone to say, hey, Joe, before I sign my name on this, is it yours?

Is it your son's? Are these your emails? Am I sure that I'm not ruining my reputation? And now, after finding these pseudonym emails, interacting with... Sherwin, Eric Sherwin, who is the basically the family accountant and other business partners where he attended lunches, he's still holding to he never discussed business with his son.

How long will that stand? The Chairman of the Ways Committee joins me right now, Congressman Jason Smith. Congressman, what are your thoughts when the President said all lies?

Well Brian, President Biden repeatedly said he had no knowledge of his son's business dealings, but we now have 327 emails that prove otherwise. The docs that we released this week in the House Ways and Means Committee came from the two IRS whistleblowers. And there was fifty-four emails. 54 emails that was President Biden himself to Eric Schwerin that you just mentioned. Eric Schwerin is the architect of all those shell companies that was created to move millions of foreign money throughout and then tapered out to different Biden family members.

But there were 54 emails, just him, to Eric Schwearing. That right there is more than enough. And five of those emails, Brian, was right before they went on the trip in June to Ukraine of 2014. And then 27 other emails was right before the trip that he went to Ukraine in November of 2014. And why is he using a pseudonym?

And was he using a government server? He's absolutely, you know, the reason why he's using those alias names, and there were three different ones that we saw that they used here, it's just to keep it private so people doesn't know that it's him. That's how, I mean, it's just like how they have 20-plus shell companies to transfer and hide money. Apparently, there's. There may be twenty plus different email addresses that the president uses.

I mean, we're trying to figure that one out. That's why you see Jamie Comer having issues just getting the thousands of emails right now. Right now, I understand that there's The National Archives gave you 82,000 pages of emails and documents that were sent to received under President Biden's alias while he was Vice President. How many have you gone through? We haven't received those emails.

That's been blocked by the Obama administration and also the Biden administration.

So that is something that we are battling right now to get those. The 327 that we received was from the IRS whistleblowers during their investigation. The IRS whistleblowers testified two days ago in our committee saying that they didn't realize. who Robin Ware was and the other aliases, the fake names Joe Biden had, until Jamie Comer came out with the fake aliases and then they saw all this.

So they didn't even know that in their investigation.

So you need is Joe Biden just saying they're lies? What is he saying is a lie? Uh they said that the the payments that you guys found were car payments. Is that plausible? Brian, he's just trying to distract.

Apparently, he's not looking at all the facts that we brought forward. We have documentation, more than one thousand one hundred pages from these IRS whistleblowers that show that President Biden dined With Hunter Biden and his associates, we see that he's traveled to Two events with Hunter Biden and his associates. We've even seen that he wrote letters of recommendation for Hunter Biden's associates.

So that sure doesn't sound like someone who's not deeply involved. Plus, there's numerous examples of where Air Force Two was used to fly to Ukraine, to fly to Mexico, and they were all wrapped around issues that helped benefit the Biden family. We also know the $40,000 check that was, quote, a loan repayment from James Biden to Joe Biden that was ultimately 10% to the big guy that came to one of the original companies that came from the Chinese company that was all wrapped around the What's That message that said, I'm sitting right here next to my father, waiting for your response and then six. Six, eight weeks later, this money pops up.

So I want you to hear what James Comer said to Sean last night about the difference between the way the Bidens are treated and the Trumps. Cut 42. The Democrats on the Oversight Committee have obstructed this credible. Investigation just as much as the Biden legal team, just as much as the mainstream media and all these government agencies who are supposed to be investigating. But we're going to hold Hunter Biden accountable if he doesn't show up for the subpoena.

Sean, we looked, and Donald Trump's immediate family testified in depositions on the January 6th committee for 18 hours. 18 hours, Donald Trump's family showed up. For depositions when they were subpoenaed by the January 6th Committee. But the Bidens think they're You know, the law doesn't apply to them that they're special and they aren't going to show up. I mean, there's more evidence now.

About Hunter Biden than most criminals that have to show up for depositions in big-time legal cases.

So he's going to be there, or we're going to hold him accountable. Y your thoughts about that and the comparison between the two families. We clearly have seen, especially the Justice Department throughout this IRS investigation to Hunter Biden's taxes, definitely treating the Biden family a whole lot different. There were several leads, according to the IRS whistleblowers, and they testified this week once again: there were several leads that were going directly to Joe Biden, and the Justice Department refused those leads. What we did find out is Kevin Morris, this Hollywood attorney that paid more than $2 million worth of Hunter Biden's unpaid taxes.

We have an email that he sent three weeks before Super Tuesday, back in February of 2020, saying that we need to get these tax returns paid off or it faces personal and political risk. The political risk only relies to one person: that's Joe Biden. It was three weeks before Super Tuesday, which ultimately decided he was the nominee, the Democrat nominee to office. The whistleblower. Brian said that they believe that there's potential campaign finance crimes and they wanted to investigate that.

The Justice Department said no.

So I wanted you to hear what Ron DeSantis said, you know, he's running for president. Opening an inquiry based on the facts that we have, I think, would be justifiable.

However, I think they run the risk of doing an inquiry that doesn't necessarily lead anywhere while they've been ignoring a lot of the problems that our voters are talking about. When I'm going through Iowa, Republican voters obviously are not fond of Joe Biden. Yes, they're concerned about Hunter and all this money, but they're more concerned about what's happening at our border. They're more concerned about what's happening with the economy. They're more concerned about federal agencies that are overstepping their bounds.

And so if you're doing the inquiry, which again I think is justifiable, you also have to be addressing all these other issues.

So he's worried about the impeachment. He saw what happened with Clinton, numbers went up.

So it happened with Trump when they went after him in Ukraine. Numbers went up. You guys only have a two or three seat majority, depending on the day, and a few special elections. I don't think you got moderates on board. Are you worried about putting this thing up for a vote like the Speaker wants to and then losing?

We won't lose. We are 100% behind an impeachment inquiry. Allowing us to have the impeachment inquiry gives us more strength when we're battling this administration. The White House has told us that they will not provide documents, they will not provide witnesses until there's an official vote. We're doing this an official vote because there's still so many documents, so many witnesses that have to come before us that we need answers to questions.

But you know what? Back to what Governor DeSantis said, I served with him in the House. We can walk and chew gum, and that's in fact what the Ways and Means Committee has been doing. We've passed tax legislation. We've passed the most bipartisan trade agreement with Taiwan.

Plus, we're doing oversight. Walking and chewing gum is what most Republicans are able to do. I hope Ron DeSantis can do the same thing. Congressman, your thoughts about Kev McCarthy leaving can't be that much of a surprise. But he was your chief fundraiser, and I know popular with 96% of the caucus.

Uh Kevin McCarthy is a dear friend of mine, someone who I respect and admire. And he was not treated appropriately by just a handful of Republicans. And he was such a team player. He was the person who led the effort for us to win the majority. If it wasn't for Kevin McCarthy leading the effort to have the majority, we wouldn't even be where we're at today.

If it wasn't for Kevin McCarthy starting this impeachment inquiry, we wouldn't be where we're at today. We're going to miss him. The country is going to miss him. He's been a great public servant, but I don't blame him for wanting to move on. But that seat, are you worried about losing that seat?

Not at all. That's a pretty safe seat in California, and I think we'll be fine there. All right.

Next step, before I let you go, Congressman Jason Smith. Are you there? Yeah. Right now. On the event.

Absolutely. Our next step. We have several individuals that we've asked to come before us that we need additional information. To me, I am very interested, Brian, in all these quote loans that the president's apparently been paid for. We had the IRS whistleblowers testify this week saying they had no documentation of any loans.

Well, you know what? If you're granting $240,000 worth of loans, there should be interest income reported on your taxes. But it doesn't appear that any of the public tax records of President Biden is there any reported interest income? We need to see those documents. All right.

Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Congressman Jason Smith. He is chairman of the Ways and Means, one of the busiest guys around, an important position. Thanks, Congressman.

Thanks, Brian. Take care. You got it, 1866-408-7669. I do want to talk a little bit more about that debate, the ongoing war in Israel, some of the dynamic things happening with our economy.

So don't move. Brian, Kilmeicho. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis because Mandy, you need to know. It's Brian Kilmead. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. This is rich because when she was governor of South Carolina, she was the number one ranked governor of bringing the CCP into her state. She wrote a love letter to the Chinese ambassador saying how great a friend China is. You can look at it. We put it on our website, rondezantis.com.

There's also a video of her as governor. standing in front of a Chinese flag with a Chinese business saying that she now works for them, talking about this Chinese company.

So she's been very weak on China.

Now here's the problem. The rhetoric is different, but the one, her donors, these Wall Street Liberal donors, they make money in China. They are not going to let her be tough on China and she will cave to the donors. She will not stand up for you. He continues to lie about my record.

I actually said his don't say gay bill didn't go far enough because it only talked about gender until the third grade. And I said it shouldn't be done at all, that that's for parents to talk about. It shouldn't be talked about with schools. In reference to donors coming on board, look, we will take support from anybody we can take support from. But I have been a conservative fighter all my life.

The governor had a good night, but she tried not to fumble last night. I don't think that. I think it was pretty clear to her that she's got a role, a role for the number two slot. I mean, for the people that show up on stage and do most of the campaigning. She's been the best.

I mean, she has surged because she has worked really hard. Governor DeSantis, too, has gotten better every day, but most of the big money is now seeing, is going with. Uh Nikki Haley, but I think a lot has to do too with beating Donald Trump. Not beating Donald Trump head to head, but beating Joe Biden head to head. Right now, they just did a study.

Who spent more time campaigning? Fifty-five days for Trump in Iowa De Santis, seventy nine days Haley? eighty seven days, Ramaswamy a hundred and forty five days, Kristi thirty five days. Asa Hutchinson 84 days. I think he's still in, technically, but look at what it relates to in terms of power.

Polling. Trump's got fifty-nine point eight percent of the vote, DeSantis thirteen, Haley ten point five, Ramaswamy five point one, Christie two point nine.

So I think the fact is everybody knows Donald Trump, and Donald Trump in many ways like, listen, I'm the frontrunner. I don't need to be out there every day. I don't need to be calling into shows like I had to do in twenty fifteen. I don't need to be in the center of the center of attention. Also, the court cases Much to his chagrin Kind of take care of that.

So, the debate, I think, overall, what I think, Nikki Hilly was fine. Ron DeSantis was strong. The most conversant, the most interesting is Chris Christie. Vivek Ramaswamy is just a fringe candidate, extremely bright, 37 years old, a different perspective. But I don't want to live in a world in which we don't stick up for Ukraine, that we don't back up our allies, that we give Israel the weapons, but we don't have this thick alliance with them, that we don't see right and wrong with Hamas.

I don't see it. I see the relation between Ukraine, Russia, China, and Iran. I don't think there's any doubt about it. To me. It's pretty clear.

So the bottom line is, people are flipping out that Donald Trump is back. They are flippin' out. That Joe Biden. Most likely is going to be the nominee. I'm one of those people convinced that he is.

Even though Donald Trump said he's not going to be. But guess what else is happening? It looks like that Joe Biden He was not going to debate. That was what his those were his so-called handlers were saying. Here's Quentin Folks, Biden's principal deputy campaign manager, cut eighteen.

The Commission on Presidential Debates now has to schedule out. Is the President committed to participating? At the end of the day, we're focused on building a campaign. We'll have those conversations. But right now, our focus is on making sure we continue to build out a campaign and infrastructure that's going to be able to be competitive in 2024.

Sad to know, you have not committed. No, I said that the campaign is going to take a look at the schedule and we can have this conversation. But as of right now, our focus remains on building out a campaign and infrastructure. While the Republicans remain in the visit primary where their frontrunner is not attending debates, our campaign is focusing on what we need to do to win an election next year. Wow.

I mean, very simple. Yeah, we're going to look at the, yeah, we plan on attending the debates. You don't love the dates, you do love the dates. But right now, they've had a very timid campaign. You don't hear much about it.

They're always under the wire. Trump was re-electing, trying to get re-elected the day he got the office the first time around. Here's more: CUT 19. I don't think any America. person cares how old Joe Biden is when it comes to if they can get reproductive freedom in their state.

I don't think they care when it comes to is gas cheaper or if inflation is coming down. I think that that's what American people are focused on. And while the media continues to try to make it seem as though the American people are focused on how old the president is or what he might say versus Trump's who's saying he's going to be a dictator while he's already taken away their freedom and is quite frankly bragging about it through paid media and in his rhetoric and speeches and all across the country, um is a very monolithic view and one that does not do justice to the American people when it comes to what they want.

Well, anybody who listened to Donald Trump with Sean Hannity knows that he said, I'll be a dictator on the first day by saying, Drill, and we're going to build a wall. I'm going to crack down on immigration. That's what he was saying. And Donald Trump knew it was going to be misconstrued. I think he has fun with it.

But for us who speak Trumpes, who anybody else has been watching, He didn't say I'm going to be a dictator. He didn't say I'm bypassing Congress. He didn't say I'm not going to leave the office. That didn't none of the none of that came up. In fact, the guy seems kind of happy these days.

And the reason why Chris Christie didn't get the answer that they think Donald Trump is incompetent in 77 and shouldn't be running, he said he was younger with the new generation. But Donald Trump is not incompetent. You might not like him. You might not agree with him. He might.

Not campaign as much, but I think at the end he'll end up will be if he has to. But it's pretty much the same guy.

So you decide if you want them. I don't think Joe Biden could say I'm the same guy. Plus, we didn't really get a look at him in 2020.

Now we're getting a look. You can't turn away. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian In Kill Mead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmey Show from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, home of two Christmas trees.

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This hour, we're going to be joined by Eric Prince, Blackwater founder and former Navy SEAL. Also, just let me remind you: this weekend, Friday night, I'll be with everybody from WHIO over in Dayton, Ohio. If you can't get tickets, just go to Briankilme.com and I can personalize it right by my house and get it out to you. Also, on Saturday, we're going to Kentucky, and Sunday, we're going to short in Charlotte, North Carolina. To make your reservations, go to Briankilme.com.

Before we get to Delino Squires, let's get to our big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three: like I said, I am willing to make significant compromises on the border. We need to fix the broken border system. It is broken. Right.

Thus far, I've gotten no response. Yeah, they got a lot of response, but they want actually some reforms in terms of asylum, Mr. President. Massive aid for two wars and an ally is in the balance. As Republicans say, yeah, you'll get it if you give us massive border reforms.

We're talking about over 100. Billion. This is worth the fight, fellas. Hang in there. Number two.

There is no No context. In which the genocide of the Jewish people can be condoned. And it's certainly not conducive to learning for the poor students. There you go. That is the UPenn Board of Trustees member who has now resigned after that horrible display by these university presidents when it comes to cracking down against anti-Semitism on their campuses.

Also, they're closing in on the mastermind of the October 7th attack over in Gaza. We'll keep you updated. Number one.

So he's a good person. We should not nominate somebody who's almost 80 years old. He's afraid to answer. No, you have to. Either you're afraid or you're not listening.

No, it's not. It's a simple question. Governor Christie and Governor DeSantis going at it. Debate number four was more personal than political. The four contenders that are left will probably never be on the stage again together.

Next up is Iowa six weeks away. We'll see who's going to survive to take on President Trump. Delano Squires joins us now, research fellow at the Richard and Helen DeVos Center for Life, Religion, and the Family at the Heritage Foundation. Delano, welcome. Oh, thank you for having me.

So, is this Trump's to lose? Are you one person that believes in the polls, what's happening right now? It it certainly seems like it's trumps to lose. Uh uh Sort of presumptive nominee who's this far ahead of the field. I can understand why he does he feels no need to debate.

Uh and it seems like a Good portion of the conservative base has coalesced around him.

So it seems like it's his to lose. We will see what the current court cases that are against him, you know, whether they have an effect, but Uh if come next February? Uh You know, the the president is facing even more excuse me, even more cases and/or looks like he may be headed to. Federal prison. That is going to open up some very interesting discussions in the conservative base.

Do people let you believe that they're actually going to be doing that possibly heading to federal prison, Trump? I mean, I've heard people who say that he is going to be convicted. I'm not following any of the cases close enough to know whether that's true, but it's certainly A possibility that is out there.

So, um, But again, the president is so far ahead of the polls that the former president seems like he has no need. Or desire to debate. Given his personality, if you put him. On a debate stage. No one knows exactly what he will say.

I'm sure that would make his lawyers very, very, very nervous. I get that sense. It's maybe happening now because today he had oppressor before his civil trial, and he's going back on the stand December 12th, so it's going to be interesting. How do you explain his surge when these cases started, when he was basically neck and neck with DeSantis in 2022 after those midterms? I think people underestimate how popular Donald Trump is.

He's one of the few. presidential candidates that I can think of in history who had Almost ubiquitous in name recognition before he even entered his race. He's extremely popular. He was in 2016. He's only grown more popular among the the conservative base.

And I believe people Many of his supporters see the the cases and charges against him as as. Acts of persecution and have made them more resolute to support him moving forward. The last poll I saw said he's getting he got 8% of the black vote, which is more than Mitt Romney and John McCain. The last poll I saw, he's up to 20 percent. What's changed?

Well, in 2020, I think he got between 18 and 20 percent of the black male vote. And that was a significant number for Republicans. I think other black voters have become. Um disillusion with President Biden. I I don't necessarily buy the the the take that Trump's criminal.

difficulties make him more appealing To black people because we have such hard times in the criminal justice system. I don't necessarily buy that. But I think a lot of people are drawn to his message, and I think that cuts across different ethnic groups. What do you think is his message? I mean, I felt the feeling that you're being attacked unjustly.

The people stay eye to eye with that. Is that the way it's being interpreted? I think part of it is that. 91 charges? Part of it could be that, but I think.

For instance, if you look in a lot of cities in Chicago and New York immediately come to mind. There are Growing numbers of black residents in those cities. Who are completely fed up with the current administration's immigration policies. And they see migrants coming from. from Central and South America.

Who are taking over school buildings? I saw in Chicago, they had some, you know, in a police station, and they feel. Like their voting power is being diluted, and they don't feel like their needs as citizens are being prioritized. What about you? How would you describe yourself politically?

It's a good question. I certainly would describe myself as conservative. I'm a Christian first, so I'm a Christian conservative, and I think that's. Uh modifier is extremely important. I'm not a Mammon conservative, so I don't serve markets.

I don't think corporations are. Are idols to be worshipped? Um But Just personally and professionally, I I'm the type of person that I will likely vote for whoever the most conservative candidate is that's that's left in the race. You know, I look at uh Allen West. I look at Senator Tim Scott.

I look at Byron Donalds, Burgess Owens over the last few years. Mia love too. And I see more and more. Uh, African Americans who seem to be more comfortable in the conservative lane. After reading about Booker T.

Washington and seeing what he did at the turn of the 20th century, that seems to be the way he was. As bad as his life was, he wanted to see his way through and make it better rather than condemn the situation. How do I make it better? Is that your attitude? Very much so.

And just like within the broader sort of conservative movement, even within sort of the slice that's black conservatism. that word means different things to different people.

So there's some people who are much more on the economics and entrepreneurship side. There's some people who are more socially conservative. For me, my foundations of conservatism, because I'm thinking about what I what is good to conserve, Our faith and family.

So that's why a lot of my work is around marriage, family, fatherhood, and faith. And then from there, you can build education, economics, prosperity. But I always start with sort of the same foundation. You know, what's kind of interesting is there's a different programs to help you, and there's. Those programs just to not get in your way.

It seems like a pro a lot of programs were created reportedly to help. And they seem to hurt. And when the President of the United States said, what do you have to lose? People go, That's not a program, don't say that. A lot of people didn't reject that saying that statement.

And I know this very well because before coming to Heritage Foundation, I worked almost 15 years in local government in Washington, DC, not federal, but local government. I did all sorts of public-facing jobs. Tech classes for kids, for ex-offenders, for adults. And then my last year in the Office of Gun Violence Prevention.

So I've seen the way government programs, some can help people. But many also can hurt people because they condition people to become dependent on elected officials and unelected bureaucrats.

So for me, Uh Much of my conservatism is not answering the question or asking the question: what are you going to do for me? It's asking the question, what are you going to stop doing to me? With the headline, I'm helping you. Cor correct, correct, correct. Um City centres.

Um The way that the left stands behind Sort of the K through 12 public education establishment, particularly teachers' unions, and they say we need to fully fund schools. And Randy Weingarten says, if we fund all the schools fully, we're gonna raise results. But You can't find many Democrats who will support education savings accounts, universal school choice, school vouchers. Even some don't even like charter schools. And they will consign their voters, largely black and Hispanic, largely low-income, to schools where 1% of kids can read or do math at grade level.

Now their children will never go into those schools unless they're doing a service project that they can put on the Ivy League application. But they have no problem taking votes from black and Hispanic voters and then turning around and saying, we're going to fight against the schools that you all need in order for your kids to achieve a better life than you have.

So, what you're saying, by the way, I'm talking to Delano Squires, who's a research fellow at the DeVos Center, and also he was with the Heritage Foundation. Delano, so for example, if people really cared about results, they look at charter schools. And it's a longer day, oftentimes more disciplined, a harder workload, sometimes uniforms, and the demands are greater, sometimes the travel is even greater. But the results are there.

So if you say I'm going for minority, I want to help minorities, you cannot say school choice. You are against school choice. Those two don't gel. Absolutely. And it's funny, I mean, I grew up in Queens, and I can, I don't know anybody who had a longer commute than I had.

It was an hour and 45 minutes on two buses within my same borough.

So, where'd you go? Cardoza High School.

Okay. Yeah. So charter school.

Now, when I was a teenager, charters were, I mean, it wasn't a thing, you know, back in the late 90s, early 2000s. But now, again, being in DC, roughly about 45% of D.C. kids go to charter schools.

So they have grown in popularity. And you know, but they got green lighted to do more, but there's a huge slowdown right now with this governor not doing it, not funding it. Yes. And it was the same when de Blasio was here, and he was standing right against Success Academy and other charters that wanted to expand. And you have waiting lists thousands of people long because the parents.

Want that education and want opportunities for their kids?

So, the debate that was that I have in the book, Teddy and Booker T, is between W.E.B. Du Bois and Booker T. Washington. And but W.E.B. Du Bois' primary complaint about Booker T was too compliant.

He was too accommodating. When he says, No, no, I got a school in the South, segregated South, where there's poll taxes and there's lynchings and there's Jim Crow. I'm looking to make it better and educate people 1,500 at a time and give them life skills and trade, as well as. Academics. And where do you fall?

Someone who's practical, even though there were things wrong around him, I have to pick my fights? Or a guy like W. E. B. Du Bois, who's a highly educated guy who formed the NAACP?

They're both highly educated. Right, right, of course, of course, because Boogerty Washington went to Hampton University. I'm the type of person where I'm hesitant. To judge too harshly. The men and women who came before me With today's sort of current standards.

I wish everybody was like that.

So I understand why both of them were making the arguments that they were making.

Now, to me, I'm very much in the mold of Booker T. Washington. I'm going to cast down your bucket where you are. I'm a person who believes in industrial education. And it wasn't as if Booker T.

Washington wasn't teaching his students. He was just teaching his students a different range of skills. They were literally building Tuskegee Institute as they were learning. That's crazy. Even made the bricks.

Correct, correct. And he understood that there were great lessons in that, moral lessons, lessons in industry and thrift and hard work.

So I'm a person who thinks that he is. His reputation is not nearly where it should be within the black community. Correct, within the black community. That doesn't mean that Du Bois didn't have points, and I think. That it's hard to be a full citizen when you don't have voting rights, when you don't have equal protection under the law, but I think it is a mistake.

To believe that political representation can bring you anything approaching social or economic equality in this country. As crazy as it was back there, Frederick Douglass Escapes to Freedom and Booker T. Washington Born a Slave. They both love the country. Right.

And they wanted to make it better. Can we learn from that? Absolutely. And one of the I wrote a piece a number of years ago contrasting the sort of anti-racism, quote unquote, of Ibram Kendi and Frederick Douglass. And one of the things that I said is that Both Douglas wielded a rhetorical blade that was meant to prune, not to destroy.

And people like Kendi For them, everything is is the language of destruction, deconstruct. uh decolonize, destroy, dismantle. Um because those are the people that think our country is is inherently evil. from root to fruit. And we need A new founding, a new anthem, a new flag, and what they want is massive social upheaval.

Now they don't mind being paid very handsomely.

Now they're anti-capitalists. A lot of that money is gone, by the way. But they will take all of your donations.

So I think there's something to be learned in the lesson of Booker T. Washington and Frederick Douglass.

So you have a couple more minutes around the break? Absolutely. Okay, good. And then we have Eric Prince at the bottom of the hour. There's something going on right on Venezuela's doorstep that should concern all of us.

Don't move. Brian Kilmead show. It's Brian Kilmead. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

Delano Squire is still here for a couple more minutes, research fellow over at the Heritage Foundation with the DeVos Center for Life, Religion, and Family. Delano, one thing that I don't go heavily into in the book, Teddy and Booker T, but you think is important, is his partnership. With Julian Rosenwald, founder of Sears. Correct. And they worked together to create, I think, over 5,000 schools across the South to educate.

Uh African Americans Oftentimes, with those schools were started with money from ex-slaves, and I think probably over $4 million of donations from the community.

So it's one of those things where you can't get around the education. Um is one of the most important tools to upper mobility.

So I always hear people go, well, I'd love to get the black vote, but Republicans and Democrats, men and women, why don't I get the black vote? What is the key to to uh the black voting? You can't generalize, I get it. But what do people want to hear and what don't they want to hear?

So, for me, I think of a couple of things. I think of the home, the schoolhouse. And the state house.

So, right, I think about family, education, and law, particularly public safety. And many black voters. Don't feel safe in their own communities and are looking for politicians to address that, particularly anyone who lives anywhere near a city, Philadelphia, New York, Baltimore, D.C. Also, obviously, black voters are interested in an economy and an economy that's working for them. And also, I think education is one of the most important and critical ways to reach black voters, as it is with any other voter.

So, school choice would do that, and the other thing would do, you have to support law enforcement to do that. Correct. Can that be a double-edged sword? Can that be the wrong message? It certainly can.

And one of the big parts that people don't talk about in terms of getting the black vote is the fact that black conservatives for well over 30 years have been maligned and disregarded. I mean, Hakeem Jeffries, when he was in college, was calling Clarence Thomas a House Negro.

So one of the things that we have to be honest about is the sort of low social value that being a black conservative has within the larger black community. If you can attack someone like Tony Dungy, who's pro-life, pro-fatherhood, pro-marriage, and liken him to a white supremacist for talking at a March for Life rally, which a black reporter journalist in the Washington Post actually did do. You know that anybody else, whether it's Tim Scott or Brian McDonald's, the country's doomed. And he's adopted by 12 different black kids. Exactly.

Right. Foster kids. And sometimes full-time adoption. Right. One of the finest Americans you will ever meet.

Absolutely. Great coach. That too. All of famer. All of families.

A really good broadcaster. Delano Squires, thanks so much. Great to know you. Thank you for having me. And thanks so much for reading Teddy and Booker T.

Thank you for having me. All right, listen. And by the way, I hope to see everybody in Dayton on Friday, Saturday in Kentucky, Sunday in Charlotte, North Carolina. Go to BrianKilmey.com and just get your reservation. Eric Prince coming up next: a story you have to hear.

From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead.

Well, one of the first rules of leadership and foreign policy is you don't go around saying exactly what it is that you're not going to do. It really seems like more and more the support we're giving Israel is being very, very backhanded. And in fact, what it's doing is it's giving slightly more and more daylight to Hamas and the terrorists and the forces of evil, thinking, hey, we might actually get through this and Israel might be forced to actually stop this war with us still fairly intact. And that's simply not acceptable. That's our mind Kadirian.

He's a retired Navy captain, and just talking about what we're doing behind the scenes, holding back Israel after this brutal carnage.

Now, the other side is you do see innocent people dying. War is brutal. I mean, can imagine if we saw all this footage in real time, like you could be live-streamed in World War II. Eric Prince is a student of history. He's Blackwater founder, former Navy SEAL himself, and joins us now.

Eric, great to see you. Great to hear from you. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me, Brian. First off, if I was to give you If I was to give Israel a letter grade, the IDF a letter grade, and how they're prosecuting the war in Gaza, what would you give them?

I think they're doing very well based on an extremely difficult uh situation the fact that Hamas started this this tariff act, knowing that it was going to bring the kind of response and that they literally hide underneath their civilian communities makes it inex exceedingly difficult military task. To separate the wheat from the chaff. And it's tough. And it's tough for them to continue to prosecute that war. uh to smash them on us in the tunnels.

when the Biden administration is constantly telling them all the things they're not supposed to do. Understood.

Could should we have anticipated something like this since being that it has worked out so well for Russia and China? It gets attention off Ukraine. China knew we were pivoting to P to the Pacific. And now all of a sudden, we're back in the Middle East? Look, I don't know that um I don't agree with the premise that uh the the the China, Russia, Iran are super tight allies.

They're definitely friends. of convenience uh fellow travelers It's um It's a China pursues its self-interest. Russia is effectively winning in Ukraine. They haven't advanced and taken territory, but certainly the Ukrainian assaults have gone nowhere. And Ukraine is largely running out of manpower, let alone equipment.

So I think that. Uh that conflict is headed for resolution sooner rather than later. Putin has an election in March that um He has to show something positive for her. He has to. You know, what brought down the Soviet Union.

Well, look, he's a- Did he just kill everybody that's a serious contender? He's locked up his opposition. On both ends, but really the thing that one of the things that brought down the Soviet Union was a lot of pissed-off wounded veterans from the Afghan conflict. And He has hundreds of thousands of those, and if he doesn't show something positive for his. For his escapade in Ukraine.

Uh he that's that truly you know risks his um him being in the seat. What Hamas did is certainly supported, certainly agreed to by Iran. A lot of technical assistance with drones, with manpower, with training and even with communications intelligence But Yeah. Plan for it. it made Hamash step up their game significantly.

Is it in our interests for Ukraine to survive and thrive? Mm-hmm. Certainly, it is. Certainly, Ukraine should survive and thrive. Retaking every square kilometer of what was.

is probably not in the cards right now. If you look at the European maps Those Those boundaries have shifted. um almost like with the tides. Um and and it is If Ukraine presses on and tries to grind away to out basically out conventional war, the Russian army, they're just going to continue to chew up. their manpower.

I mean, their their best fighters have all largely been killed off And and now you're you're just doing um kind of war of generational generational extinction. If they keep pressing on, they should settle. reconstitute as a country. And make a better economic incentive for those people in the boundary lands because the the the areas that Russia conquered are not in great shape, will not be in great shape. And even the one the the the territory of the Donex Luhansk areas Um were not great even from 2014 to the present, even when they were occupied by the Russians.

So w warfare ends when one side is exhausted. Both sides are quite tired now, but Ukraine is near that tipping point of exhaustion. And what you want to avoid is a catastrophic collapse of the Ukrainian state. Absolutely. I love the leadership of Zelensky.

I'm in awe of the way the Ukrainians fight. They've taken out about 300,000, they say, Russian soldiers, and they've exposed them as an overrated unit. But, Eric, you enlighten me on something I had no idea about. All eyes should be on Ven not all, but we should be focused on what Venezuela is doing with Guyana. One of the greatest oil discoveries of modern times happened in Guyana, and Venezuela thinks they'll just take it over.

This small country does not even have an army. They are begging us for help. Should we be helping them? There's lots of ways to provide them help that does not require U. S.

troops. This is a clear case of a collapse or a diminishment of. American credibility and American deterrence. And it stimulates adventurism by thuggish states. It's the same kind of claim made by Saddam against Kuwait.

in nineteen ninety and You know, so Maduro last Sunday on the 200th anniversary. of the Monroe Doctrine speech given by President Monroe. Announces, or they have a referendum. The referendum supposedly passes overwhelmingly that Venezuela should retake its. It's land, basically seventy percent of the land mass of Guyana, which incidentally is where one of the largest new oil like you said, new oil discoveries in the world has been done.

Guyana was the fastest growing economy in the world last year. And now Guiana has announced, sorry, Venezuela, Maduro, the socialist dictator, ruler of the country. Has announced that Venezuelan companies will be reissuing concessions in this territory of Guiana. and that any existing company should leave within three months.

So that is the the pressure and the nonsense is dialing up. I don't know that they will go with a full-on infantry style mechanical in invasion because there's not really good roads, it's very thick jungle. But they're going to, I would say, through a irregular warfare, unconventional warfare approach, Bully their way in, bully the government of Guyana to accede to these demands. and to cut a very unfavorable deal, if not And that's if the state of Guyana even survives. Look, it's if America lets that stand, because all that energy is coming to America because the Biden administration has made it.

Exceedingly difficult to develop new energy in America.

So, this is a Source that's close by. And if the if the Biden administration lets this stand, Uh Again, it increases the chances of every other country solving their border disputes with guns, not diplomacy. Because that's exactly what Venezuela is doing.

Now, the interesting thing is, Biden also cut off or or r uh removed sanctions against the Venezuelan government, and so there is a deluge. of New York hedge funds And politically connected investors going down to Venezuela to make deals with the Venezuelan. effectively communist government. Um again, to the detriment of national interests. I just hope people realize that.

And you're saying that it wouldn't take just a show of firepower would keep Venezuela in check. We also know big influences in Venezuela, Russia and Iran. And China.

So, why would we give them control of this? I mean, it makes no sense with very little effort, and which shows we still care about our own backyard. Yes, and it shows that the United States supports peaceful diplomatic resolution of these things, not diplomacy, not guns. There should be the should be that. But look, America, the the foreign policy of the United States should be that our friends love us.

Our rivals respect us and our enemies fear us. in all three of those cases Uh that is not really the case anymore. Our our enemies don't really fear us anymore. our rivals challenge us constantly, and our friends are wondering what the hell are the Americans doing now. Fixable?

Very fixable. You think Trump can do it? Do you think Nikki Hilly can do it? Do you think that Ron DeSantis can do it? I think a change in paradigm and leadership in Washington is 100% necessary and.

I hope one of those individuals has the opportunity to do so. Who are you supporting? I think Trump is clearly going to be the nominee. And I think Having learned the lessons of of last time That the real constitutional crisis in America is that we're supposed to have three branches of government. But the reality is we have four.

The fourth being an unelected, unaccountable Deep state bureaucracy that does whatever the hell it wants, and that needs to be brought to heel. Hopefully, we can do that. By the way, people should know, too, China's not some ten-foot-tall killer. They are economically, they are vulnerable. Russia has been proven to be anything but a military juggernaut.

Here's what David Cameron, the former Prime Minister, now Foreign Secretary of England, said, Cut 39. When President Biden says if he went after a NATO ally, it wouldn't just be US money, it would be US troops involved. I mean another way to look at it is you're spending like an extra 10% on your defense budget, but the Ukrainians' bravery has turned that into destroying about 50% of Russia's pre-war defense equipment and people. For the loss of no British lives, no American lives. That's an amazing investment in dealing with your enemies.

Is he defining that correctly? Look, the the the Ukrainian so the Russians have certainly paid dearly for their for their bad actions that they tried in Ukraine. I think the really sad thing is if the left had not pulled the Russia Trump collusion nonsense starting in twenty sixteen, that Trump could have made a diplomatic deal with Russia to pull them away from the orbit of China. What was America's foreign policy really for 70 to 100 years? It was keep.

Keep Russian resources away from German industry, prevent that from combining. That's what Hitler exactly tried to do: combine German industry with Russian resources. But now, The bunglings of the left have pushed Russia with all of those natural resources. Into a somewhat alliance cooperation with all the massive industrial capability of China, that is not in the United States or Western civilization's interest in any way, shape or form. And so pulling Russia away from that.

back into the orbit of Europe.

somehow is a should be a strategic goal of the next President of the United States. Yes. Right now it's not going to happen. We don't know how much longer Vladimir Putin is going to be there. President Xi is going to be there for life.

I can't see Vladimir Putin losing an election, but I never thought the head of the Wagner Group was going to make a run on Moscow either. I I don't know how legitimate that was. He's dead now, so we can't talk. Yeah, he's very much dead. No question about that.

Eric Prince, thanks so much. Always great. You bet, Brian. Merry Christmas. You got it.

Meanwhile, he's always watching the Globe. Anytime you see a tape from Eric Prince, double-click on it because he just talked about everything. He alerted me to this whole Guyana thing. And I know you're probably rolling your eyes saying another place. Just so you know, if we look away, we could easily stop this from happening, have an ally with a huge oil discovery, make sure it's drilled in a way that's environmentally sound, not the way Venezuela is doing it, have our companies in there.

Working for a free nation. Doesn't have to be a perfect democracy. But I don't want it run by Maduro. Do you? All right.

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So Joe Biden's at it again. Even though the Supreme Court said don't, he's still doing it. He's forgiving another $5 billion in student loans. The latest move will benefit 80,000 people, including the public sector workers. This is a payoff for votes.

This is sickening. Here's his quote. In wake of the Supreme Court's decision on our student debt relief, we are continuing to pursue an alternative path to deliver student debt relief. What about a car loan? What about a mortgage loan?

How dare you do this? This is outright bribery. It should be election interference. To date, the department has approved $132 billion in debt federal loan forgiveness. You didn't go to college?

You're out of luck.

Next. The Biden ban on menthol cigarettes to be delayed amid political turmoil. Turns out a lot of African Americans want it.

Next. Some Democrats joined Republicans in voting to strike down Biden's EV mandate. The House voted Wednesday and evening in favor of legislation striking down federal regulations targeting gas-powered vehicles, which, according to the White House, is designed to accelerate the transition to electric vehicles.

So, 221 to 197, the House approved the Choice in Automobile Retail Sales Act, with 216 Republicans and five Democrats helping them out. A group of more than a dozen Republican lawmakers, led by Congressman Wahlberg, Clyde, introduced the legislation in July in response to the Biden administration's tailpipe emissions. They're looking to get rid of all of it.

Next. How about this? Over four hours of smartphone use leads to... Serious health risk for teens. The study found that the adolescents of more than four hours of daily smartphone use exhibit higher rates of stress, suicidal thoughts, and substance use compared to those with less rage.

I'd be very curious to see if we could expand on that high school study, I think, in New Jersey, where they told the kids you could not use, bring your phone to school. Evidently, kids ended up a lot happier. We'll see how big that gets.

Next. An Alberta cyclist took nearly an 81-mile ride on the bike without using his hands to break a Guinness World record. Robert Murray did it. Murray said he used his hands to massage his legs when they fell asleep during the record attempt. The cyclist says he has a lot of practice riding without using handlebars.

Alzheimer's, this is what he did it for. It's something that runs in my family, and I have since lost my grandmother's disease. Breaking a record and raising money for a course near and dear to my heart was just a double win. Congratulations. Five hours and 37 minutes.

Well, scientists believe they finally know why zebras have unique and sharp outline stripes. I told you I was been working on this study. I finally had to give it up. But here it is. A new study on the animals fur revealed that a stark black and white stripe and small dark patches are particularly effective in warding off attacks from disease spreading insects.

Really? I thought it was the leopard that they should worry about. Researchers from the University of Bristol. Deduce as the thin stripes of the zebra's back serve to minimize the Size of monochrome dark patches that flies find appealing. Does this help anybody at all, the zebra study?

Yeah, it just answers a question that I don't think anybody was asking. Right, finally. And how about this? The Yankees have made a key signing. Do you want to share that with us, Pete?

Yeah, well, it's a big trade with the San Diego Padres for Wan Soto. Juan Soto brings a 275 average and 35 homers at 25 years old. Promising future, obviously, if they can re-sign him. But among the people the Yankees gave up was Michael King.

Now everyone's pursuing all these Japanese pitchers, right? Yeah, and apparently the Yankees are going out of their way too to make sure they have a meeting to get these big players from Japan as well. They had great success with Hideki Matsui, if you remember. Right. He was very good for a lot of you to win a World Series.

Never heard a word out of his mouth though. I don't think he made any effort to speak. The greatest thing he ever did was bring an artist's conception drawing of his girlfriend together. That was one of the funniest things I've ever seen him out. Was that for real?

Yeah, yeah, he brought it. That's what he brought as a joke. Oh, as a joke. But it really was her, though. Oh, her, though.

What does that mean? You're on both sides of the issue. How dare you? Brian killed me, Jeff. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music with your Prime Membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.

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