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So glad you're here. Bottom of the hour, Rich Lowry will join me. Greg Jarrett is in the studio. If you're smart enough to get Fox Nation, you recognize him. He's all over the channel.

He's got a brand new book out, and it is called.

Well, it's a great book, and it is called the Constitution of the United States and other patriotic documents. We're going to be getting to all that in just a moment. Also, we're trying to track everything that's going on over in San Francisco because the president of China is here for the first time in six years.

So, before we get started with Greg, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three: Are you thinking about running for president? I don't know what the future lies. I know that we can't continue the direction we're going. People feel politically homeless.

I feel politically homeless. You do? What does that mean, Joe? He's talking to riddles. Manchin and his presidential minute.

Will he make a run? Fewer and fewer Dems seem confident that Joe can do it and beat Donald Trump. In fact, Trump is not only beating Joe head-to-head, he's beating Gavin Newsom. Number two. Major escalation there as well in Gaza as the IDF presses forward, entering now the Al-Shita Hospital.

This is the largest hospital in Gaza where the IDF says today it was able to find weapons, ammunitions, and more military infrastructure inside that hospital. That is something that we've heard from the Pentagon this week. If they're not at children's facilities or at mosques, they're in the basement of big hospitals. First time, as I mentioned, in years. President Xi meets with President Biden in America.

Expectations are low. The risks are high. What do you expect to come from these meetings? And, Greg, I'll put that to you right now. You're a well-read man.

Not only do you write, but you read. What do you expect is going to happen when this meeting's all said and done? I actually read and comprehend simultaneously. How can that be done? I did not know that could happen.

Yeah, I wish somebody in Washington had that ability. They're just fighting too much. Yeah, you know, you had a guest on this morning, I believe it was, that said this was a Joe Biden. Biden begging tour that John Radcliffe. Yeah, Radcliffe said that.

And it's true. I mean, he is trying to raise his stature on foreign policy after the debacle in Afghanistan and his mishandling of so many other foreign policy matters.

So that he wants the stature of G standing next to him to elevate his bona fides as this foreign policy guy. I come back to the cautionary words of Barack Obama, who confided in a friend, and talking about Joe Biden. Never underestimate Joe's ability to screw things up. And I cleaned that up to your audience. Obama used a different word.

So today in Manhattan, we're back to this civil trial with the Trumps. And I I'm personally offended by it, but I'm not burdened with a legal education. I didn't go to law school. Right. It's something to carry.

I, for the life of me, I think they're puni this is the most. Obviously Political display of using the courts for your own political and personal gain that I've ever seen in my life. And any rich person who might be conservative or have somewhat unorthodox political views would be crazy to ever do business in New York. Oh, absolutely. You know, Letitia James, egged on by the judge, is using this cockamame consumer protection executive law that not only violates the First Amendment protections on commercial speech, but it egregiously undermines more than a century of established common law on civil fraud, that you have to show an intent to deceive that somebody knowingly made false statements.

Trump relied on professionals, expert real estate people, accountants, top law firms in the United States to come up with these financials. Financials with a disclaimer clause in the document that said, You banks need to do your own diligence, which they did.

So, Greg, the thing that's so astounding is that, and this just blew me away. Everything about the civil trial shocked me. Number one, the judge says, I read the documents, I listened to the testimony, watched the video. You defrauded everybody, and you owe $250 million.

Now, let me see, let me start the trial and find out what else you owe. And then they quickly tried to take his business licenses away and put his company into receivership, and a court stayed that. And now everybody knows he's going to be found guilty of this. And the question is: how quick can he get a stay in terms of an appeal? What I've heard from Other scholars that say the further up you go in the courts, the less political it is.

But how do you see this staying out uh playing out? Except that the higher courts in New York State are equally dominated by uh Democrat appointees. But as I mentioned, there are federal issues here. And so once you've exhausted the state court system, you move to the federal courts on a constitutional basis.

So and he stands a much better chance. I mean, I think the good news for the Trump family is yes, the fix is in, and Goron, the judge, is going to rule against the Trumps, but I do not see this standing up under judicial scrutiny in the higher courts. And also, what's the deal with every attorney turning on him in Georgia, taking the deal and telling the story behind the scenes that led up to January 6th? We're looking at a situation where people have explained to me: if you're ordinary income, ordinary wealth, you can't possibly withstand this scrutiny. The minute they got indicted and arrested, you are wiping out your legal, you're wiping out any modest fortune you might have, even if you're in a normally lucrative profession like being a lawyer.

You really have no choice. Look, this racketeering statute with which Trump has been charged by Fonnie Willis, the hyper-partisan Democrat, a district attorney in Georgia, is the biggest stretch of the law that I've ever seen. You have to show That Trump was involved in an organized criminal enterprise. There was nothing organized about what Trump was doing. And even if you can show that there was a conspiracy, you have to show he was actually an active participant in it.

And look, he exercised his rights first by filing legal challenges in court and then challenging the electoral count. Which you are entitled to do by law under the Federal Electoral Count Act. That's not racketeering. That's exercising your rights.

So, Greg, what made you put this book together to get through and have the success you've had as a lawyer? You've got to know these documents. What made you feel as though I need to put this in and provide some analysis? Because there's no other book out there like it. I looked for it.

There are a couple of books that have the Constitution, but not the Bill of Rights. They don't have a fair and balanced summary and reprinting of all the great speeches and addresses and letters and pamphlets throughout American history unless they emphasize Hillary Clinton's speeches. And so I don't have an agenda here. I have both conservative as well as liberal points of view. This is philosophically.

A patriotic book. It is a tribute to the many patriots who made America great, our luminous beacon of hope for justice and prosperity and liberty that is mired and envied throughout the world. I mean, right now it's called the Constitution of the United States and other patriotic documents. We started out without a Constitution. We were playing off the Articles of Confederation, which didn't work.

Quite frankly, didn't work. Can you put in perspective how close this whole thing came to collapse after the Revolutionary War victory? Yeah, it did come close to collapse because the articles were so weak. For a decade, they lasted, and you know, a unicameral legislature was simply unworkable. There was no strong chief executive.

The nation was spiraling into horrible debt, and it was about to collapse. You know this from your books as well. And, you know, great leaders stepped forward and on the outline of John Adams of how a government should work. They crafted carefully a United States Constitution. It wasn't perfect immediately.

They had to adopt a Bill of Rights. The great failure, of course, was this Faustian bargain. They didn't abolish slavery. As a bargain to get Southern acceptance of the Constitution, they left it to others that would follow, like Abraham Lincoln, to do the right thing. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: To add amendments to the Constitution because it's something that had to evolve with the times.

Yeah, and of course, it evolved into a great civil war. There are overlaps, by the way. I loved your book about Frederick Douglass, who is featured prominently in my book, Abraham Lincoln's famous addresses, Douglas lamenting the hypocrisy of slavery. All of that is in my book. You can read these inspiring words and galvanizing ideas in my new book on the Constitution and patriotic documents.

You do the book on tape, too? Yeah, it is on tape, but I didn't voice it. My last one I did.

Well, it's 500 and some odd pages. Yeah, it's a lot. Your other book was so great. Booker T. Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, important addresses that they delivered are in my book as well.

And so you and I have a lot in common on this. Right. So you got the speeches, you have the documents to give people a perspective. The next time you want to put a noose around a statue and pull it down because that person didn't live up to your lofty expectations, maybe you should have a perspective on where we've been in the past and how significant that man or woman was. Americans especially young.

Americans have been betrayed by our public schools. We did a segment, I don't know if you saw it the other night, on Fox, in which Men on the Street went out, asked people fundamental civics questions about, you know, what was the Revolutionary War about and the Civil War, who won the Cold War, what was the Cold War?

Some young woman said, oh, it was chilly back then. Students are so underserved by public schools. And, you know, I would hope that parents would buy this book and use it as a guide to properly educate their children who have. Have the blessing of living in the greatest nation on earth. Right.

And people should get a perspective. And I always say, too: if you read and you study and you understand and you think you found a better country, travel and you can stay. Yeah. But everybody comes back. Everybody wants to get in here.

Look at our border. Including Frederick Douglass. The guy was born a slave, a fugitive, goes overseas, is treated like a rock star. And they go, Where are you going? Going back.

You're going back? They could arrest you.

So he had people pulling money in order to pay off the slave owner that owned him in order to get his freedom. And he becomes a leading abolitionist and fights with, gets his two sons in the Civil War to make sure we get a 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendment. He was a confidant of Abraham Lincoln. He walked into the White House at one point in time, room full of people. Everybody stopped speaking.

Lincoln looks at him, turns to the audience, and said, This man's judgment I trust more than anyone else.

Okay. And after Lincoln was assassinated, Douglas wrote, he penned this beautiful tribute to Lincoln, calling him the wisest, most noble man on earth. And he truly was. Right. When he got a chance to know him, he was very critical when he was writing on him because he wanted a quick freedom of the slaves.

But if he did it that quick, white people in the North were not ready to fight side by side with black people at that point. Once the war started and they realized what was going on and what they were fighting for, they said, suit him up. And then Frederick Douglass said, sure, for the same money. They're going to get paid the same, and he's going to fight for that. And I'll recruit for you.

In fact, my first two people recruits are going to be my sons, and they will fight. And, you know, Booker T. Washington, as you well know from your book, carried on the mantle of the fight for equity. They met. He spoke at Tuskegee.

Douglas spoke at Tuskegee. And, you know, in my book is the famous Booker T. Washington Atlantic Compromise speech, which was a bold move. And he went down there, and nobody was quite sure what kind of a reception he would get. And he spoke about African Americans and economic opportunity in the South.

And in the end, he was really applauded for that. He advanced economic opportunity, and he goes down in history as a great American. Yep. He had to speak to a black audience and a white audience of all different wealth with all these significant people on the stage. He's the only man of color, and he blew the doors off everybody.

He truly did. Thanks so much. Greg, great to see you. Cool pick up his book, The United States. It's called The Constitution of the United States and Other Patriotic Documents.

And Greg, do you have a special place you want us to go? You can just go to Amazon.com or HarperCollins.com or just walk in any bookstore across America. The book came out yesterday. I'm very, very proud of it. It is a tribute to patriots everywhere.

Yeah, if you're worried about your son or daughter not understanding our past, this is one-stop shopping. Thanks so much, Brian. Go get them, Greg. And we'll have you back, too, because believe it or not, there's a lot of legal stuff in the news. You think?

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And let me read what the last one said. Greedy CEO who pretends like he's self-made. What a clown. Fraud. Always has been.

Always will be. Quit the Tough Guy Act and these Senate hearings. You know where to find me, any place, anytime, cowboy. Sir, this is a time, this is a place. If you want to run your mouth, we can be two consenting adults.

We can finish it here.

Okay, that's fine. Perfect. You wanna do it now? I'd love to do it right now.

Well, stand your butt up then. You stand your butt up. Oh, hold on. Oh, hold on. Stop it.

So that was Sean, excuse me, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen of Oklahoma. And he is sparring verbally with President Sean O'Brien. And it happened yesterday during an exchange, and what McMullen was reading. No, Mullen was reading, was text from this guy, O'Brien, because he's a ranking member. On the committee, on the budget committee, and just ripping him.

And Mullen's sitting there, okay, you're going to get you in front of me and I'm going to challenge you. And then O'Brien said he was going to get challenged. He was about to get his head kicked in. Have you seen the size of this guy? And did you see that Senator Mullen also spent a great deal of his time in the octagon?

The guy's a mixed martial arts fighter. And afterwards he said that there was a time in the Senate where people beat each other up. And he missed that time. He said that on CNN. I thought it was interesting.

He said Andrew Jackson knocked somebody out with a cane, also defended himself. When he was attacked, when he was in Washington. Here's what he said explaining that a little bit later that night with Sean Hannery cut 24. I was like, listen, I'm a guy from Oklahoma first. In Oklahoma, you don't do this.

Maybe you run your mouth in New Jersey. I don't know. I'm not from New Jersey, but this is some thug that's a mob boss, and you're supposed to be intimidating because he's the boss of the Teamsters. And he's got away with this. He's got suspended by his own Teamsters before for intimidation.

He's been in trouble multiple times. In 2022, he said he wanted to bring the mob mentality back to the Teamsters. Maybe that's true, but you still aren't going to run your mouth at me and expect me to just sit there. And by the way, mob mentality, that's not a good thing. And by the way, most mobsters.

Tough guys with guns, right? When you outnumber people and you want to choke them to death from behind. This is a guy you don't mess with. And it was just one. Of the many confrontations that took place yesterday, it was extraordinary.

I'm gonna bring it up with Rich Lowry next. It is just the beginning. We have so much to cover today, as well as the moving events over in San Francisco. Don't move. A radio show like no other.

It's Brian Killmead. If you ran. on a third party ticket, wouldn't you be helping to elect Donald Trump? I don't buy that scenario. I've heard that.

And I wouldn't buy that scenario because if you look back in history how things have played out, I don't think they thought Ross Perot would elect Bill Clinton.

now that we see the some polls with Bobby Kennedy Junior. would be helping Uh will be helping uh Joe Biden because it takes votes from Donald Trump. That is Joe Manchin sitting down with Oral O'Donnell of CBS, not letting his. His big-time plans are known. He just did say, I will not run for reelection for another six years in West Virginia.

Very red state. He's Democrat. And he has, I think he's done some really good things because he actually makes people earn their vote. He did not want to stack the court. Goodbye.

He did not want to add two states. He's not going to do that. And he did sign off on the Inflation Reduction Act. I think that was a mistake. He even realizes that.

Well, Jim Justice, very popular self-financing governor. He's going to be senator. He was recruited by Mitch McConnell. Let's bring in Rich Lowry now, editor of National Review. Rich, the story of this next election, if it's Biden Trump, might be the other candidates and what they do to the overall race.

Yeah, you know, you look at that New York Times poll that got so much attention about a week or so ago with Trump ahead in five of the six swing states. You added in RFK, and all of a sudden it wasn't so clear. You know, Trump was tied or losing in a lot of the swing states.

So I don't think RFK is going to stay at the level he is now. I mean, in some polls, he's 22 percent. You know, I think people learn that he's not just your standard issue candidate. A lot of them will flake off. But this no-labels thing really could happen.

There's ballot access issues. There's the issue whether you put a Democrat or Republican on the top of the ticket, which is a big decision. But there's as much an appetite for independent or third-party candidates since 1992, when Ross Perot got 19%.

So let's say you put Manchin in with Governor Huntsman or Governor Hogan.

Now, they're not, neither one's the darlings of their party. But how big is the constituency of the undecided independents and persuadables? I mean, I don't know if we have the answer to that, but we can speculate, correct? Yeah, I mean it wouldn't shock me if such a ticket got double digits. They're not going to win in any state, but it makes some states you wouldn't otherwise expect to be competitive competitive and scrambles things.

And if I'm a Democrat, I'm freaked out about the prospect of a Joe Manchin ticket, with a Democrat on top of the ticket. And if I'm the Trump folks, same thing if it's Larry Hogan.

So it's going to be a wild and unpredictable year. The Republican primary so far has been basically a sizzle, but we'll make up for it, I believe, with a lot of drama next year. We have a lot to discuss. But just to finish off this topic, if we remember Ralph Nader, how he hurt that, how according to Alleghory, hurt him in Florida. We remember how Jill Stein, Hillary Clinton stinks, was a plant that hurt her and she thinks she lost the l election.

First she blames Russians and then Trump's illegitimate and Jill Stein. But now, if you put in Cornell West, you put in a possible no-labels ticket, you put in the RFK ticket.

So you have a lot of fractures.

Now, people listening to us right now say, I probably don't have any friends that would vote for them, but in a country with 100 million people who are probably eligible to vote, or two or 150, you got to think someone's going to go, yeah, Cornell West.

Okay, one out of 50,000.

Well, you know, in certain states, it'll flip. It is so close in Arizona, in Georgia, in Michigan, possibly in Wisconsin. Yeah, I mean, what do you need to change those states, right, from the 2020 result? One or two percent in a lot of cases.

So, can. All those people you just mentioned get 1% or 2% easily. Easily.

So it definitely is scramble things. And it just goes to: I think both parties are taking a big risk with their presumptive nominees. I've been saying for a long time that Trump could win a general election, but he also easily could lose a general election to Joe Biden, who's in a totally pathetic state. And same thing with Biden. I think Biden, besides Kamala Harris, is probably the only major Democrat that could lose to Trump.

So if either party would switch away, I think they'd have a pretty big advantage, but it doesn't seem likely that's going to happen. All right, so let's talk about who's left. And it is Nikki Haley, DeSantis, Vivek Ramaswamy, as well as Governor Christie, technically Governor Bergham, but Tim Scott's gone, Mike Pence is gone. If you were to pick a survivor. Who is best to challenge Trump and who is it likely to be?

I still think it's DeSantis, even though he's done nothing but fall and flatline. But he has the broadest possible appeal in the party, one. Two, he has the I think the best chance in Iowa. And I really think if Trump's going to be stopped, it has to it has to happen in Iowa. I think he's probably a racehorse out of the barn if he wins in Iowa.

So I'd still say DeSantis, but the problem is he's not rising and Haley is rising. There was an Everson poll yesterday in New Hampshire that had Haley up fourteen points since August.

Now still not a huge number, but eighteen percent. And then Christy was sitting at another nine or so. If you were to drop, that presumably would accrue to her.

So you can squint and begin to see how she'd be competitive in New Hampshire, whereas DeSantis has shown no sign of pickup anywhere. I think the one thing that I find stunning, a couple of things. Number one, head to head in one poll that just popped out, Trump beats Gavin Newsom. Then when you mentioned the CNN poll and the New York Times poll, Trump beats Biden in almost every battleground state, and he beats on almost every issue.

So immediately, Rich, and you could spot this better than most, you have to make him unelectable.

So, and Trump didn't make it that hard, but he came out with a speech. He talked for an hour and a half, and they found one line, and they said, Hitler. Hillary Clinton, he's Hitler. You know, he's Mussolinian Hitler, right? He's absolutely.

So, and then we're going to kick him off the ballot. We're going to put him in court. We're going to take away his wealth. I mean, this is so obvious. Then they're going to say, 77 years old, he's making a lot of gaps, just like Joe Biden.

Okay, guys, you're giving me your bet, your hook, your uppercut. In the first round, you know, this is going to go 15 rounds.

So, what are you doing? How effective will this be? Are we going to be numb to the Hitler references by August? Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think you should call domestic opponents vermin. It just goes too far.

But it doesn't mean you're a Hitler either. I mean, the reason why I remember Hitler is not because he called people vermin, right? It's because everything he did besides that.

So I think that's absurd. But it does show there's a lot of wild things Trump has said on true social art rallies that haven't gotten a lot of attention, I don't know, for like a year now. And all of a sudden the spotlight's going to turn back on.

So you're right, this is part of the strategy. And then also, three, it's amazing, three of the felony charged cases they want to try in March. What's magic about March? Is March just good for trials the way June is for weddings? No, it's because they assume he'll have the nomination locked up and then they can start making him unacceptable, they hope, in a general election.

Now, they're not going to get all three trials in March. Maybe they get no trials in March. If they do get one, I think it will be the January 6th trial. But it's pretty blatant what they're doing. And my guess is, who knows?

I mean, if he's convicted of felony, where We're, you know, we passed an event horizon. I don't think anyone can really predict, but I wouldn't be shocked if, you know, for three weeks it's a torpedo to the bow, the polling collapses, you like access Hollywood, and then it's absorbed. You know, we get used to it, the news cycle moves on, and then people care about the things they always care about, the economy and foreign affairs and real issues. And as you mentioned earlier, Trump leads on all of those except for abortion.

So one of the big stories this week, as Joe Biden heads out for a consequential few hours with the President of China, even Biden's staff thinks he's too old to campaign, too old to govern. They're coming up with a plan B and C. They have people with different specialties from the Congressional Black Caucus to get the black vote back together to Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton for helping him out with the Middle East. They want a special envoy, George Missile-style, to handle Ukraine. They want somebody else to really campaign for him.

They've enlisted the governor of Illinois as well as Gavin Newsom and bring back Rahm Emanuel as Ambassador to Japan. Jonathan Martin writes this column offering advice at the same time because clearly he wants to make sure Donald Trump doesn't win. What are your thoughts about the way the party has turned on Biden and he refuses to step aside?

Well They haven't really turned on him, right? I mean, privately they all know the problem and and they acknowledge it. They can see uh everything w we see every day with how decrepit this guy is, but they they don't think there's an alternative because Kamala's waiting there in the wings. And even if they wanted him to go, there's no mechanism to to make them go.

So they're kind of stuck and they're going to make the the best of it. But it's just I'm good friends with Jonathan Martin. He's a good journalist. The paragraph that mattered in that column was, everyone realizes he doesn't have the capacity to campaign or serve as president the way a traditional candidate or president would. That's just there's no getting around.

He should step aside. He should step aside. If you're not up for the job, you should step aside. And if he gets reelected, it guarantees some sort of terrible crisis. He's not going to be able to serve out four years.

When presidents are incapacitated, it's not a clean process. There's usually deception involved and it's going to be terrible. And they have any number of better alternatives, but because they can't leverage him out and are worried about Kamala, they're just going to try to ride this thing out. It's bad for their party, it's bad for the country. It is terrible for the country, and I totally mean that.

And it's terrible right now. I mean, does anyone feel confident that he's going to get a good deal from President Xi? Does anyone feel confident? And I'll give you an example, and I think it's effective even for Democrats. If George W.

Bush ended up being incompetent, You had Cohen Powell, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney. Off the top of your head, solid Secretary of the Treasury.

So, Trump, you know, the 40-something-year-old governor of Texas could look around and go, I'm surrounded, Connie Lee Sarais. I'm surrounded by confidence and experience. You got people like Jim Baker and his dad, he can reach to him. I look around. at the Biden team.

I only see weakness. Did anyone look at Jake Sullivan and go, oh, he can handle this? Governor, excuse me, Secretary of State blinking and think he's going to be able to stand strong in the Middle East and in Ukraine. I mean, our Secretary of Defense, I have no idea what he thinks. Clearly, he's risk-adverse.

As a general on the ground in Ukraine, I know he's seen more death and destruction than I ever will or you. But being this risk-adverse is putting our guys in so much danger, so I assume he has no control. My problem is if the President can't do it, he's not surrounded by people that make me feel they can do it. Yeah, and even if the people around him were better, there's no substitute for a president. And this is such an enormous job with such high pressure.

You can be at the top of your game and a world-class politician, and it can break you. The presidency broke LBJ, who's a fantastic politician. It broke Nixon. I mean, he had something to do with that, obviously. It broke Jimmy Carter.

George W. Bush, by the end, was near broken by it.

So the idea we're going to have this 81-year-old guy who clearly is out of it at some level, right? The latest example was Veterans Day, Tomb of the Unknown. If someone's not whispering in his ear exactly what to do, he doesn't know what to do. And he has the most crushing responsibilities of any man on the planet. That's not a good combination.

I don't care. You could bring back Henry Kissinger as Secretary of State and Teddy Roosevelt as the Defense Secretary or whatever, and it wouldn't work because he got that hole in the middle. And they're going to try to make it work. Because they have to. They're going to gaslight the whole country.

But one way or the other, it's going to end badly.

So what do you think is going to happen in San Francisco? The President wants both countries to commit to renewables, although China's not planning to back off on coal. They want them to agree to crack down on the origins of fentanyl. And cut back on that. Let's see how that goes.

What else do you think is going to be accomplished in this meeting?

Well, we'll see what the readout is. I'm not sure whether they'll believe it, on how tough Biden is on human rights and various misconduct by the Chinese regime. As Reagan showed in his negotiations with Soviets, you can both make progress diplomatically and not back down on that stuff and be really, really tough on it as part of your actually negotiating leverage and moral authority as President of the United States. But Biden hasn't really used it to this point. I kind of doubt he'll use it there.

And the big thing is that it seemed after Trump there was a bipartisan consensus that we needed a totally new approach to China that was not engagement, that was competition. And for the last year or so, it seems that Biden wants to go back to what was a failed status quo engaging China. China.

So I think that's the big picture and the big risk. Rich Lowry, Pickup National Review. Appreciate it, Rich. Thanks so much, Brian. Have a great day.

You got it. When we come back, I'm going to take your calls and finish up this hour with your input. We are watching everything taking place on the West Coast. Twenty-one world leaders have landed in San Francisco. We're following everything with the Trump trial, too, that's taking place in New York City.

And we're seeing the ongoing situation in Israel as the U.S. independent study has revealed what we all knew, that in that hospital, underneath the hospital, the number one hospital that's left in Gaza, are network tunnels that probably have the higher-ups in Hamas, the ones that are still alive. And there's a deal on the table, we understand, to get 70 hostages out. For a For a five-day ceasefire. Would you take it?

Brian Killmeat Show. Learning something new every day on the Brian Killmeat Show. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. Yeah, Al-Shifa Hospital is a military command infrastructure. They put innocent civilians, hostages, human shields.

They bury them within the hospital and then tunnels, 500 miles of tunnels. I was just in Israel, just got back, met with Prime Minister Netanyahu, talked about this very issue. They are taking this very delicately, trying to save civilian lives as they circle Gaza City, have a humanitarian corridor through the barrier they have created into southern Gaza. But it shows what cowards really Hamas are to use their own people and the hostages as human shields.

Well, that's Michael McCaul. He's chairman of Foreign Relations in the House. He's 100% right. And what he didn't bring up is they're bringing incubators in. Generators in.

I mean, how many countries get attacked like they got attacked? 1,400 people dead. There's Hamas in the basement, and they're making sure the kids are okay. Yes, there's collateral damage, and there's some tragedy. Yes, and you have to understand, too.

That when you're attacked to that level and know it's gonna happen again, and the people that did it say we're gonna do it again. And again and again, you have no choice. As Prime Minister of that country, as head of the Secretary of Defense of that country, Defense Minister, you go in there and you go for the win and you go for the kill. What people don't understand about that is beyond me. And what they did is they wanted this fight.

I don't think Hamas wants to run Gaza. They don't want to be a governing body. They don't want responsibility, but they scare the hell out of everybody. There is a tape. On uh on Jerusalem Post.

And it shows a hospital, and I believe it's this same hospital. And one man walks up to Al Jazeera's cameras, and he's being interviewed, and he says, through a translator, he says, This is Hamas. How dare they hide behind us? They hide behind us. Tell them to go out and fight.

And as he's saying this, the Al Jazeera reporter pulls away and walks the other direction. I've seen biased media before, but I've never seen anything quite like this. Ever Can you imagine that? Can you imagine if someone Yeah, even on MSNBC. Is out in the field.

And the guy goes, You know, I blame Joe Biden for the inflation. And I blame Joe Biden for the chaos in Ukraine. And I blame Joe Biden for allowing Jake Sullivan to take his eye off the ball when it comes to Middle East relations. and them just walking away in the middle. But that's the story in the Arab world, the Arab Street.

And much of the leadership gets it. The Arab Street doesn't, and most of these leaders fear the Arab Street. The good news is they're getting near a deal, reportedly, on hostages. 70 come out for a small select group of Palestinian hostages and a five-day ceasefire. We will see.

Because if the fighters get out... We're going to be back in the same place again. Hey, thanks to everyone who came out to RJ Julia, the great book shop in Connecticut. I want to see everyone in Tennessee, Brentwood, Tennessee, and then over in Alabama over the next few days, and at the Patriot Awards in Nashville. We're in Teddy and Booker Tibbs.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Meet Show.

So glad you're here. We come to you here from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, where it seems as though New Yorkers might be, my fingers across, might be getting their footing and pushback against anti-Semitism and some of the riots and disturbing things that have happened on the college campuses here.

Some of the highest ranked in the country, if not the best. Senator Bron Johnson is going to be with us shortly. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West at the bottom of the hour. Emily Austin, fresh off her appearance, speaking at the At the rally for Israel yesterday, where 300,000 people showed up. It was really amazing to see.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Are you thinking about running for president? I don't know. What the future lies.

I know that we can't continue the direction we're going. People feel politically homeless. I feel politically homeless. Yes, he does. 2024, Joe Manchin has his presidential minute.

Will he make it a summer? Will he make a run? Fewer and fewer Dems show confidence in Joe, and new polls have Trump even beating Newsome head to head. Number two. Major escalation there as well in Gaza as the IDF presses forward, entering now the Al-Shita Hospital.

This is the largest hospital in Gaza, where the IDF says today it was able to find weapons, ammunitions, and more military infrastructure inside that hospital. That is something that we've heard from the Pentagon this week. Wow, Israel at war. 300,000 show up in D.C. to show support for the nation under attack as forces get closer to Hamas headquarters under a hospital in Gaza.

Number one. How would you define success with your meeting with President Xi? To get back on a normal course of corresponding, being able to pick up the phone and talk to one another if there's a crisis, being able to make sure our military still have contact with one another. We're not trying to decouple from China. Yes, we should be, though, the best we can.

If it's not indeed possible, I'd like to start pushing away. Is that possible? First time in six years, President Xi comes to America, this time to meet with President Biden. Expectations are low, the risks are high. What do you expect to come from the meetings?

And I'll pose that right to Senator Ron Johnson on Homeland Security committees, budget committees, and a major investigator in his own right and successful businessman in his day. Senator Johnson, what do you expect to emerge from San Francisco? Good morning, Brian. probably is more weakness. More fecklessness.

I I was listening to your opening and you said I never saw any division. I used to say the greatest threat facing this nation, and we're still not addressing it, is our debt and deficit, but right now, The fact that we are divided is weakening this country. And I also point out, we're not a naturally divided people. On the major goals in life, we agree: safety, security, raising our kids. But you have people like President Biden, the radical left, the Democrat Party that are pushing division, that are pushing hate, that are weakening this country.

The overall macro solution here is we need to strengthen America. We need to unify and heal this nation. We need to get our debt and deficit under control. We need to secure our border. We need to, you know, do everything we can to.

To again strengthen this nation because that is what, when America is weak, the world's a far more dangerous place. Tyrants like she. You know, totalitarians like Putin and the most the IFOs, they become emboldened and the world becomes a far more dangerous place.

Well, that according to the President, he says there's a different danger. Cut five. We have to keep going. Above all, it shows us that climate action offers an opportunity for the nation to come together and do some really big things. You know, I've seen first hand what the reports make clear.

The devastating toll of climate change and its existential threat to all of us, and it is the ultimate threat to humanity. climate change.

So that's all he talks about. $6 billion towards climate change. Never talks about getting the deficit in order. Never talks about rating and spending. He's upset he's not spending more.

No, that's the devastating impact of climate change is their fantasy that they can hold back the tithes. In Senate budget, Testimony in hearings, we spent something like five to six trillion dollars globally. To compare Climate change. I mean, I asked the witnesses: well, have we made a dent? Have we turned down the curve?

Of course not, because this world is still going to end apparently in 12 years.

So this is wasted money. Can you imagine what we could have done with five or six trillion dollars to alleviate human suffering? To meet the net zero by twenty fifty is going to be another twenty one trillion dollars. Again, this is absurd. It is insane.

It's further weakening this country when you realize the fact that we're $33.5 trillion in debt. that is a weakened America, and there's no end in sight on that.

So again, the existential threat to America is our debt and deficit, our weakness and rising powers that are taking advantage of our weakness. Senator Ron Johnson, our guest. Senator, we understand that they are going to agree on the precursors to fentanyl, limit them. I don't know what kind of enforcement tools we're going to use. We're also going to agree to set up communications between defense secretaries and defense divisions.

There's nothing wrong with that. But this is what I'm just trying to get a hold of now. This just crossed. President Biden is set to strike a deal with China that would limit the use of AI in nuclear weapons. He's going to meet with President Xi today and going to agree to that.

They're going to report that Biden and Xi will agree to limit the use in the systems. But the U.S. military claims they need AI for their vehicles and weapon systems to remain superior as a global force.

So listen, I am not sophisticated enough to know where AI is leading. I don't know many people that have. I know people that are smart enough to ask the right questions. But I am not comfortable with this 81-year-old President giving up this type of advantage.

Well, first of all, does anybody really believe that China will honor any agreement it signs with us. I mean, let's face it, they're the ones that come over, have a highly sophisticated web of agents that steal our intellectual property. That's one of the reasons they've made such progress economically, because they steal our stuff.

So you can't trust China to do this. Listen, I I am concerned about what's going to happen with AI. Nobody knows. Nobody knows where this goes. But doing a deal with China and hamstring ourselves, by the way, I'm not sure we'd even have the agreement as well.

So I mean these these agreements are, again, just fantasy. That's part of the problem with liberalism. They just deny reality. They think they can do things that just are simply impossible to achieve. But what we should do is achieve the possible, which is get our debt and deficit under control.

Do whatever we can to unify and heal this country rather than continue to divide it and push hate. But that's what the Democrats are doing. You're a business guy. And you know for the longest time the theory in America was do business with China, get them into the WTO, and they'll see the advantages of being a part of the family of nations and eventually lose the guise of communism. That has not worked.

Even Henry Kissinger at 100 admits it has not worked.

However, there is a lot of business still being done by American business over there today. President Xi will have dinner with anyone who wants to spend $2,000 to be in the same room with him and $40,000 to be on the same table as him. How do you feel about American businessmen and women trying to do business and get close to President Xi?

Well, first of all, I I wish people would have been right twenty years ago, thirty years ago, when we opened up to China. I wish they would have accepted our outstretched hand and entered the world economy and brought their people out of poverty, which they've done and entered the world and played by the rules, but they didn't do that.

So you have to recognize that reality. What American businesses need to do is they certainly need to diversify their supply chain. it's not about bringing everything back to America. We already have a severe worker shortage here, but it's definitely reducing our dependence on China and not kowtowing to them, recognizing what China is. It's a totalitarian regime.

It violates the human rights of its own people. You got you have to have an open eye toward who it is you're dealing with. Right, that would certainly help. And we also know that as late as last month, they were buzzing our B-52 bombers. You know, over the last few months, they've been trying to interdict our ships and harassing our allies in the region while threatening Taiwan on a regular basis, as well as.

propping up Russia, selling everything except weapons, but the components to make the weapons to let that fight continue against Ukraine exists. We know that they have not illegal, not a violation, but they have an outstretched hand to Saudi Arabia to try to pry them away from us as an ally in the region. This isn't we don't address the spy balloon. We can never be on our back foots with this country and have success. And I worry, this president in desperate need of a success will acquiesce in a way that hurts our security.

Well, it was President Obama's Defense Secretary Robert Gates said that President Biden has been wrong on every major foreign policy decision for the last forty years, and his string remains unbroken. I mean, he's got the same exact advisers who've been advising him for forty years as well.

So again, when you have the Obama administration and then the Biden administration appease And finally hundreds of billions of dollars into the largest state-sponsored terror, Iran. China notices that. They notice our weakness, they notice our debt, they notice our open borders, they notice the division. And so we embolden our enemies.

So again, the solution here is we need to strengthen America. But it's not going to happen under radical leftists because they apparently seem hell-bent on destroying this country, and they're doing a really good job of it. You tweeted out that Joe Biden's performance as president is so awful that I think they'll cast him aside. Do you re I mean you you you know the sentiment, but then within practicality, is it possible? First of all, it's not that his performance is bad because they're all signed up to his policies, it's that his poll numbers are bad.

But obviously, what's driving his poll numbers is his performance. But they're all radical leftists. They're totally on board with his policies. They're not willing to admit they don't simply don't work. But no, I think his poll numbers are so awful.

Democrats are really good at Being unified in their acquisition and maintenance of power.

So I just have my doubts that they're gonna let him be the nominee. And no, I think they'll just pull out of the hat in the convention. They have all these superdelegates. They don't really play by the rules, but they'll make the rules up as they go and they get away with it. They've done it time and time in getting elections.

I remember one Senate election in New Jersey. Where their candidate became convicted felon, and they violated all the rules and elected another Democrat.

So they're perfectly capable of doing that, and I think that's exactly what they'll do. I've got to just bring it to the Senate. You guys are so close to getting the majority. If you break it down, it looks like Justice is going to just waltz in Jim Justice, the governor, as the next senator, as Manchin just calls it a day. Out in Montana, Tim Sheehee, a special operator, taking on Jon Tester, a pretend moderate, you would think he's more than susceptible.

There's also people optimistic if they pick the right candidate that you could oust Brown in Ohio. As you look at this map. How much would it mean to you, your job, and your party to be in the majority? How much more could you do?

Well, personally, we could stop if You know, horror of horrors, we elect another Democrat president, we can stop his agenda, which is crucial. We can make sure that Democrats don't destroy the filibuster and destroy the Senate. For me personally, I've become chairman of the permanent subcommittee investigations, and I've laid the foundation for all kinds of investigations to hold the administration of these bureaucrats accountable.

So it means a lot. You know, in order for us to do that, though, our current Republican leadership needs to stop taking what a unified Democrat position is and finding just nine Republicans to join them to pass their priorities. We need to unify a Republican position, and it has to start on the border. Right now, our open border is a clear and present danger to America. We have an option because the Biden administration wants funding through our Ukraine to make Ukraine funding contingent I mean True border security metrics.

In other words, yeah, we need to pass the laws, we need to change our current laws. To put the things in place to secure the border, but because we have a lawless administration, a president who wants open borders, the only way. We should allow closure on any bill to secure the border as if there are strong metrics that they have to meet in order to get the funding over twelve months. That would be great. Are you calling for Mitch McConnell to step aside?

I mean, is that a fait accompli? Obviously, he's got physical ailments. And he's getting up there in age, and you gotta you have Senator Thune waiting in the wings, perhaps?

Well actually Cherny was part of the group that voted for Tim Scott for leader at the start of this Congress. Right now, I'm looking for a different form of governance where again, where we stop taking the Democrat position, finding just enough Republicans to join them, and instead find out what the Republican position is on things the public demand. And the number one thing the public demands, because they realize an open border is a clear and present danger, is Republicans. Create a red line. We must pass border security tied to Ukraine funding.

It has to be contingent on meeting the benchmarks of actually securing our border. By the way, it's possible. President Trump, in 12 months, went from his peak to his trough in terms of illegal entries, because he had the right policies. We just need to enact them and force President Biden to follow the law. Just lastly, I know a lot of Republicans are hedging on Ukraine.

It is estimated that Russians have lost 300,000 soldiers. There's a story today in the Sun that says 15% of all of them are on some type of lethal drugs. They don't want to fight, and the Ukrainians are fighting like warriors. Do you think it's time to abandon Ukraine? No, and again, what I'm saying is that.

You've been there early, too. You've been there early and often.

Well, again, but I also recognize that this is a bloody stalemate and it's got to end sooner than later. Putin won't lose. I mean, his troops may be demoralized, but he has nuclear weapons.

So we have to recognize that reality. But what what I'm saying is we have this opportunity For America, the clear and present danger is an open border, and we have to take that opportunity. We don't have any other way to steer the border. We have to do that. Understood.

Senator Ron Johnson, thanks so much. Appreciate it. All right. When we come back, we'll talk more about this as well as other breaking news having to do with Israel and the hostages. You'll listen to the Brian Killmeat Show.

So glad you're here. Newsmakers and newsbreakers. Here at first on the Brian Killmeat Show. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Has come out in the public. That you also would do business with your brother with potential loans. You retweeted that story. Completely false. I've never loaned my brother one penny.

They're so financially illiterate, Ewan Goldman, who is Mr. Trust Fund. Continue to reclaim myself. No, I'm not going to give you your time back. You all continue to.

You look like a Smurf here just going around and all this stuff.

Now, listen. Mr. Chairman, you have. No, no, hold on. You've already been proven a liar, Mr.

Moskowitz. What's that? You've already been proven a liar. Who's proven me a liar? You?

Yes.

So what they're trying to say is that Comer inherited a whole bunch of money and he gave it to his brother. What he did is his brother got inherited the farm. He fronted his brother the money to actually take the farm after his parents died. Number two, there are no uh the bank accounts that without a name on them. They they're all about deflecting from Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and the payment and saying there's no big deal.

It's no big deal that two hundred thousand dollars go from one brother to the next.

Well, what was the loan? What was it for?

Well, he was in the private sector. Shouldn't we not know if you're doing deals with your son and your brother with China, Kazakhstan, Ukraine? Everywhere. Why is that not relevant? Let alone what you set up when you were Vice President, let alone Senator.

And there's also a report that we ran this morning that right after the midterm elections, guys were sent over to the lawyer's office in Boston to pick up certain documents and being very careful and discreet in doing it. I assume this was a FOIA request, but it is now exposed. Why are people picking up highly sensitive documents in Boston as it relates to Joe Biden? We don't hear anything about the Biden investigation, the two interviews in the Oval Office. We don't hear anything about what was on the floor in the Corvette as it relates to anything to do with Hunter's business.

We don't hear about how the University of Pennsylvania boxes got there. We hear every detail of what Pool boy walk by documents in Mar-a-Lago. And I am not somebody who thinks it was a good idea for the president to take all these boxes, but I am somebody that is shocked at the end of a presidency dating back to the turn of the previous century that there isn't a system in place where you go through with archives or FBI agents to say what can go and what can't go. I mean, does anyone feel good about that? Trump put those boxes in front view and said, put them on the chopper, I'm out of here.

Wasn't hiding it, but then they wanted it back. And now it's a mess. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Kevin McCarthy walked by and he elbowed me in the kidneys.

As he walked by, he felt it was on purpose and not an accident. 100% on purpose, ma'am. What are the chances? Did you elbow him?

Okay, no, I did not elbow him. No, I would not elbow him. I would not hit him in a kidney. In fact, I sorry, I elbowed as I walked by. I didn't punch anybody.

So that was a little exchange with a Tennessee congressman who voted against Kevin McCarthy and it helped lead to his ouster. He claims that Kevin McCarthy hit him in the kidney.

Now, I don't blame McCarthy if he hit him, but he says he didn't hit him. A reporter was there, didn't really see it. That was only audio.

So even if you could see it, we couldn't show it.

So this guy complained old night. He hopped on CNN. McCarthy, they ended up cutting a deal that McCarthy was worse than the one McCarthy cut, and it got him fired. Even though 96% of the people wanted him to stay as speaker, Ron Johnson put up a two-tiered CR, had no spending cuts. He lost.

I think 53 or 63 Republican votes doesn't matter. We're moving on, and I'm glad we're moving on. But if you're Kev McCarthy, you're furious. Lieutenant Colonel Alan West is here. Colonel, did this stuff ever happen when you were in the house?

No, we We were a little bit more mature, I'd say. I mean, there were some sophomore things, but nothing like this going on. But when you look at what was just passed last night, this stopgap measure to continue on with the government functioning, it just makes you believe that the whole thing with Kevin McCarthy was not so much about policy, it was not so much about principles, about personalities. Because, like you said, what got passed last night was far worse than what McCarthy was bringing forward. They did have some type of spending rescissions and things of this nature.

So, why was that not acceptable? And now we've got this back and forth about he, you know, sucker-punched me in the kidneys, all this type of stuff. And then you had the confrontation with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, with the, I guess, the union, car union chief over there, UAW chief. It really is getting, you know, very disturbing how we see them carrying themselves up there in the House and the Senate a little bit.

So you have the screaming in the hall with the disgraced Congressman Santos, a disgraced congressman yelling at other congressmen who are having a problem with him. Obviously, he's a mess and an embarrassment. He's probably going to only be there a couple more days.

So out of New York, you see a lot of that. And then you see them attacking Comer personally because he's pursuing the Biden story. And he said, Well, your brother lent you money and he just he said, I'm going to cede your time. Explain yourself. And Comer went on to say, CNN, you tried to give CNN that story.

They would not take it.

So you throw it out at a hearing and called them a smurf or whatever. Moskowitz is walking around heckling Comer. But Comer is the one doing the investigating, and I think in a very deliberate way, a whole bunch of subpoenas are going to be flying around. Those whistleblowers really are hard to refute.

So let's go after the guy. It would be tough. Colonel, what would you do? As a guy that could crush 99% of the people in Washington personally and physically, what would you do if a guy keeps calling you out like that?

Well, you know, I always have this saying, never allow irrelevant people to cause you consternation.

So I don't take the bait. And I think that, that really shows that that person is petty and below you and is not someone that deserves your attention. If you're operating on truth, if you're operating on fact and you're focused on rectifying the situations that this country is confronting, and we have a whole plethora of things that need to be dealt with in this country, I mean, in a few hours, Joe Biden's going to sit down with our number one geopolitical foe in Xi Jinping in China, and he's probably going to give him everything that he wants.

So that's what people should be focused on. And let these little gnats fly around, but you just swat them away if they get too close. But otherwise, don't pay attention to them.

So, I guess that I'm watching some other channels this morning to get even more context about these confrontations. And there was about five of them yesterday. And the South Massey and Jamal Bowman was another one, I think. Yeah, and Bowman was somebody who spends a lot of his time pulling fire alarms. Also, he spends more of his time going supporting the Palestinians, demanding a ceasefire, and then going to back because there was slavery in America.

And how dare you censor Tlaib for going after The president of the United States and threatening our own president.

So it's just crazy time, but they blame Trump. Trump is the one who started all this. Yeah, it's amazing to me that during the period of Donald Trump, when he said that he was going to move the American embassy from Tel Aviv up to Jerusalem and all the threats from the Islamic jihadists and terrorist groups, nothing happened. You know that Vladimir Putin was pretty much so kept in a box and he killed some 200 Russian paramilitaries of the Wagner group in Syria during the bombing attack. Nothing came of that.

So the world was a much more peaceful and quiet place. We didn't have to worry about millions of people coming across the border. Illegally, but Trump seems to be the whipping boy. And I don't think that that fervor and what they're trying to do is to make him seem that he is the pariah. I don't think that's going to work.

And I think that people look at Joe Biden and say, I can't afford my gas prices. The border is a mess. I can't afford going to the grocery store. Crime is all over the place. I've got Palestinian Hamas supporters ripping down American flags on Veterans Day.

Something is not going right in this country right now. I know, but it's all fixable. And I thoroughly believe that. Just the right time at the right leadership. Got to get our debt down, and we've got to build up our defense again.

But it's all fixable. But there's so much at stake. Just the last thing before we move on. I want you to hear from Chris Bedford. He has his own theory.

He's with the executive director, editor of Common Sense Society, CUD 28. They've been fighting over who's going to be the speaker, it seemed like for weeks.

Now they've got another budget fight, or at least they did until earlier today in the House of Representatives. Twitter, it turns out, doesn't just make everyone worse off. It makes senators and congressmen worse for people as well by just focusing all that negativity. But honestly, it did kind of remind me a little bit of the tough guys in high school and college who would yell, come at me, bro, but never actually throw a punch. There was none of that going on.

Just a lot of accusations and a lot of posturing. And, you know, I get the frustration. And in Washington, D.C., things can be annoying, but it's not a very impressive show at the end of the day. Yeah, it just overall, it was just nuts. I couldn't even keep up with it.

And I think it's one of those times that you'll always remember: maybe things had to get terrible before they get better.

So, we understand with the meeting with the President of the United States and the President of China, first time the Chinese President's been here in six years, they're going to agree on focusing on renewables, agree on attacking the precursors of fentanyl in their country, agree not to put AI in their weaponry, which evidently, according to experts, is something we should never agree on. And then they're going to, uh, I guess Uh call it a day. Because and also agree to set up communications between the two because we have not been talking to each other. No apology for COVID, no accountability there, no apology even for the spy balloon, no sense of stopping fortifying Russia and Iran, let alone what they're doing in North Korea. Your thoughts about this summit?

Well, no Explanation for the tens of thousands of Chinese single military-aged males that have made their way into this country or these police stations.

So it goes on and on. I think this is just another sham. I think Joe Biden is going to come off and look very weak. As a matter of fact, Xi Jinping is not going to go to the dinner with the leaders tonight. He's going to be meeting with CEOs and business leaders.

Why? Because he is going to try to get more investment in China when we should be decoupling ourselves and business investment into China. We should get our supply chain, especially medical supply chain, out of China. China is our number one geopolitical foe, and what they have tried to do is surpass us economically, which those economic benefits are just going to fuel their military rise. I mean, you just look at that one belt, one road strategy, and it tells you exactly what Xi Jinping's plan is.

And they're supporting Russia, they're supporting Iran, they're supporting North Korea. And there are reports that you see Chinese weaponry and equipment being found in Gaza Strip.

So that's where we need to have that strong stance. But Joe Biden is not the type of strong leader that we need at this time. Colonel, I understand you had a big speech yesterday. Yeah, I had a great opportunity. I just got back, as a matter of fact, I went down and spoke at the University of Alabama last night about how Democrat policies have adversely affected the black community.

And it was just great because yesterday, November the fourteenth of nineteen fifteen was the day that Booker T. Washington passed. And so I told the story to the students. Many of these students there at the University of Alabama had never been to Tuskegee. And I showed them his autobiography, and I talked about his education, entrepreneurship and self reliance policies, George Washington Carver, the Tuskegee Airman.

Your book is so needed right now because we have to resurrect and we have to remind people of the greatness of this man that lost his life, sadly, due to high blood pressure in 1915 at the age of 59. But think about all he was able to accomplish in that short life period of being one of our greatest orators and educators. Yeah, but he helped others, as you know, better than anybody, with that great education that he just willed himself. All he did was try to disperse it to a whole generation of people and still paying off today. The more I think about his life, it's just so amazing.

And so many people in his day saw that greatness and wanted to be a part of it. Andrew Carnegie, Julian Rosenwald, J.P. Morgan, and most of all, McKinley to a degree, Grover Cleveland, but most of all, Teddy Roosevelt. And when you see these two powerful men coupled together, it was a pretty awesome force. I think you should send a copy of your book to the head of the teachers' unions, Randy Weingartner, and telling that, you know, this is how you educate people.

I hope so. Thanks so much, Colonel. I'll talk to you again soon. Thanks so much for joining us today. Always a pleasure.

Thank you, Brian. Emily Austin is a 22-year-old, pro-Israeli, with a rich Jewish background, who is outraged about the anti-Semitic behavior that she's been witnessing, and she's been taking it on head-to-head. She went to the rally yesterday. What were her thoughts about being with 300,000 people of like mind? Emily Austin in studio in a moment.

Brian Killmead Show. It's Brian Killmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Meat Show. Hamas's genocidal and anti-Semitic rhetoric isn't just confined to Gaza, as you know.

The war in Israel has awakened an alarming amount of anti-Semitism towards Jewish people here in the United States. Hamas brutally attacked Israel on October 7th. Because Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

So let me be clear. We will never let the Yeah. happened.

So that was Hakeem Jeffries. He sounded really good and powerful and sincere. Senator Federman, sincere. I looked at Speaker Johnson, it was fine. There was a lot of, it was bipartisan, and it was such a relief to see something of such consequence go across party lines, but also disturbing that so many Democrats do not buy into that Israel is the victim here and what they're doing now is necessary for their survival.

I don't have to convince Emily Austin of that. She's a very respected sports reporter, NBA focused, host of the Hoop Chat, but also an outward advocate for Israel and has been speaking out all over the channel and was there yesterday. She's in the studio. Emily, how would you characterize it for people that weren't able to go? It was peaceful.

It was inspiring. It was beautiful. It was very unifying. There was no aggression, no riots, no protests. It was literally a bonding experience for Jews from all over the United States and even international.

How did they get it together so quick and be so successful? 300,000. Yes.

I thought it would be 100,000.

So I was pleasantly surprised. I think it's just a time right now where we need each other. We need to show that we're strong. Listen, we still have 200-plus hostages in Gaza. The situation has not gotten better.

I think the media has just started to settle down on the coverage of it a little bit too much. And we just understood we need to put pressure. We need to show them we're strong in numbers. What struck you out of all the speakers, Deborah Messing was there. Out of everyone that was speaking, who were you surprised, number one, that was there?

spoke and maybe Their message. I think all of the speakers had their own individual messages. For me, it spoke to my heart to hear the hostages' families because we see the faces, right? You see the posters, but you don't know them personally. And to hear a mother cry out for her son, not knowing if he's alive or not, and crying to our president, do something, bring my son home.

He's an American. That really destroyed the crowd. You got about nine, and one of which is nine over there minimum. And you have a three-year-old. Can you imagine the parents of SAS killed?

And then they take the three-year-old. What those kids must be thinking now? What must be going through? These kids are going to have lifelong trauma, and these parents are going to have trauma too. You know, the parents of the hostages yesterday wore sunglasses, and when they took them off, I was backstage.

They had bags like raccoons. They're not sleeping. Their children are with terrorists every night. How could they? Right.

Now there's a deal evidently close to in the works where 70 would come out for some Palestinians and a five-day ceasefire. The downside to a ceasefire, Hamas is going to rearm or escape. Your thoughts on 70 out of 200 getting out? First of all, before anyone's out, there should be proof of life. I don't know at what capacity there has been.

I don't know if it's being kept in secret, but right now there has only been four videos of hostages being alive. I think they need some concrete evidence before any ceasefire is even discussed. And I don't think there should be a ceasefire until every single hostage is released. Your takeaway there, we saw some ugly incidents where 300 Jewish supporters were left on the tarmac at Dulles. When the bus drivers were supposed to pick them up, they found out they were Jewish going to this rally.

They refused to come pick them up. They had to sit in the parking lot the whole time. Do you believe that? I heard it was $1,000, and that sounds like a fat lawsuit to me. Right.

I mean, I would imagine because you know the company. The drivers don't show up. Who would ever go with those drivers again? Who would ever go with that company again? Crazy.

The other thing I think is important is possibly the worst is over for anti-Semitism. We know it's on up 400%. Do you think when you see that NYU students are suing the school, Colombia is kicking off two Palestinian groups, much to the praise of Colombian graduates? Do you think people are, the Jewish community is starting to get their footing and push back with the power and influence they have? I really hope so.

They are so far. We're very far from the finish line. That's just the truth. We need to not stop putting the pressure. That's the problem.

We're all very reactive. We need to start being proactive, and that's how we'll make a change. When do you have Star David that you wear out? You said that sometimes you feel you're worried about you. At least your family's worried about that.

I know the response yesterday was fine. Yeah. What about you worry about when you leave here? I worry about it quite often. I'm kind of always looking over my shoulders, like my dad says, have eyes behind your head.

But what worries me more is putting it away because the alternative is hiding. And if we hide, I feel like we're rewinding back to Nazi Germany, and I refuse to let that happen.

So I'd rather worry a little bit more about my safety than allow my enemies to persevere with their hate. How were your contacts at Israel? In Israel? My my like my family members. It's sad that my cousins who are serving, we don't speak to them often.

They're not allowed to, they're afraid of revealing details for cyber hacks.

So we're kind of in the unknown a little bit. And it's worrisome, of course. I care about them, but as of now, everyone's alive. Thank God. You know, my little cousin, she hears sirens all day.

Her school is canceled.

Now she only goes twice a week. And she's young. She doesn't know what's going on. And it's just, it's a life that they're used to. But as an American watching them live through that, I'm like, wow, this is nuts.

I also worry that between the pandemic and now this. When are they going to get a sense of normalcy? In Israel, I I think that is their normal. Their normalcy is going into bomb shelters. Their normalcy is guys duck rockets, hide under your desks.

That is their normalcy, and it's sad. It's sad that they live life that way. I'm seeing footage now of hospitals with tunnels underneath them, uh Boy Scout camps with tunnels underneath them, houses with solar panels that have wires going into the ground where tunnels are. This is not news. Israel's been saying for years they use civilian homes as human shields.

They're using hospitals, nurseries, but nobody was listening enough.

Now everyone kind of has their ears a little more open, and Israel is saying, look, this is the photo evidence, deny it. And Brian, people are still denying it. I know it's crazy. Emily Austin, if people want to get a hold of you and tell you their stories, where do they go? At Emily.Austin on Instagram, EmilyR.Austin on Twitter, and everything else, too.

Social media, Maven. Emily, thank you. Thank you. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Meet Show.

I really appreciate you being here. Bottom of the hour, Mitch Album will be joining me with his book, certainly be a bestseller. It's called The Little Liar, really focused around the Holocaust. Special thanks to everybody who came out yesterday in Connecticut. It was just a great event.

And at Julia's bookstore, RJ Julia Bookstore.

So to sign Teddy and Booker T, two American icons, Blazed a Path to Racial Equality. I think it's a message we need to know. We need to know about great Americans who lived and died in their time and made our life better in our time. And I think you'll find that in the story. Go to BrianKilmey.com if you want it signed or personalized for the holidays.

Or if you want to see a great, what I think is a great show, it's a look at this whole story. I shot it over the course of a year. It's on Fox Nation right now. Go to Fox Nation, click on Teddy and Booker Tate, and you'll see the places, hear from the people, some of which knew of the family, and two of which are descendants of these two great people.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Are you thinking about running for president? I don't know what the future lies. I know that we can't continue the direction we're going.

People feel politically homeless. I feel politically homeless. You do. All right. Joe Manchin might be running for president without a home.

2024. Manchin has his presidential minute. Will he make it his campaign? Will he find a running mate, run into no labels, or just go into the distance? Fewer and fewer Dems are supporting Joe.

Could they go to the other Joe? We'll talk about it while Trump not only beats Biden head-to-head, also beats Gavin Newsom. Number two. Major escalation there as well in Gaza as the IDF presses forward, entering now the Al-Shifa Hospital. This is the largest hospital in Gaza where the IDF says today it was able to find weapons, ammunitions, and more military infrastructure inside that hospital.

That is something that we've heard from the Pentagon this week. Yes, and they've proven it. An independent study has revealed it, and we've confirmed it. It is true. It turns out Hamas hides behind women and children.

They hide in hospitals, the basement of mosques, and 300 miles worth of tunnels. I do not know why we need to triple-check this, but it's a fact. As Israel not only looks to take out Hamas, also wheeling in incubators for children. Number one. How would you define success with your meeting with President Sheikh?

To get back on a normal course of corresponding, being able to pick up a phone and talk to one another if there's a crisis, being able to make sure our military still have contact with one another. We're not trying to decouple from China. Really? I really think we should. First time in six years, President Xi comes to the United States.

This time he's meeting with President Biden. Expectations are low. The risks are high. What do you expect and what's really at stake? Here's what I expect.

I think that China Wants to see Joe Biden re-elected, so they're not going to crush him. But what I've seen in their actions with the spy balloon What I've seen in the actions of Gina Raimondo hacking of her email, what I've seen in their actions the buzzing of our B fifty two within ten feet of a B fifty two in the sky with their fighter jet, what I see when their harassment of the Philippines, which they know is our ally, Trying to dominate the South China Sea? Not worried about interfering in the Russia-Ukraine war, even though clearly, even though they're tight with Russia, they had no problem with Ukraine. And they know Ukraine did nothing to deserve that.

So what could emerge? Here's John Kirby. on what's it uh on what their approach will be cut three. Going into APEC, I mean, the President really feels we've got the wind at our back here. And with 21 countries, 60% of global economic output represented here in San Francisco, it's an exciting time.

Let's see if they get anything done because the exciting thing for President Xi is he's not going to the meetings at night. He's meeting. At 2,000 a plate, 40,000 to be at his table with American businessmen and women. More for Kirby on their three objectives, Cut Four. Two, lifting up and looking towards a vision for better international worker standards, cleaner environments, safer environments, collective bargaining, chance for international workers to be able to compete on a level playing field.

And number three, building a more inclusive economy across the region. Inclusive economy across the region, really. All right, so the whole climate change thing is sickening. China laughs at us. They are basically saying that they're going to look for renewables, but they will not commit to getting rid of coal.

Coal is the dirtiest fuel around. We have a lot of it. We don't really use it as much as we used to. Maybe that's good. Maybe it's not.

China's using it, building a coal plant a week.

So I don't really get it.

So we'll consider that a win. Good. You think about it. Then we're going to look at fentanyl, the precursors to fentanyl sold to Mexican cartels. They said they're going to crack down on it.

How will they crack down on it? It's not really clear how they will. Establishing communications between the defense divisions, fine with that. That makes sense. But they don't like us and we don't like them.

They're not going to like what we do. And we don't really like anything about what they do, but we don't really show them, we don't really confront them. We do things to intimidate them or to show that we will not. Give in, backstep. A lot of this stuff happened because Nancy, a lot of the fracture happened because Nancy Pelosi decided to go there.

They said, Don't send the speaker there. She went anyway. And they went ahead and they've been buzzing and harassing Taiwan since. Latest was, I think, September 28th. Send hundreds of flights over there, make it seem like a simulated.

Invasion So we'll talk about what can get done. They're going to try to do something to make Joe Biden look better.

Now, Mike Pillsbury told us yesterday. He's an expert in the region, worked with Trump. He gave Trump a ton of recommendations on dealing with the Chinese. I think I don't think the communists care. Even though they want Joe Biden to win, they won't go about making him look good.

I think they're very practical. They understand a society. They think they just might. Use John Radcliffe, cut Eight. The old football coach Bill Parcells used to say, you are what your record says you are.

And in the case of Joe Biden, he's owe for everything when it comes to China. I mean, from day one, his diplomats getting rebuked on public on U.S.

soil, to getting the middle finger on COVID, to a spy balloon that after it completed its mission and it was finally shot down, we've been chasing them to have conversations with us. This really seems like the culmination of the Biden begging tour, where he's been sending his cabinet members over to beg for this meeting. And now, you know, we're going to have this sit-down tomorrow where it's not even just a matter of having low expectations. It's this idea that we have nothing to gain and everything to lose when Joe Biden is the one negotiating on behalf of the American people. It really is.

And what bothers me most as we fast forward over to Israel, Israel is now showing that the headquarters of Hamas, as I mentioned, are in hospitals, under mosques, and in children's centers. And there's a story. You should go to Jerusalem Post right now. And if you click on this video and they have the translation underneath it, it shows. Um Al Jazeera.

In the hospital, and there looks like an emergency room. And they asked the guy, What do you think? And he says, Hamas hides behind us. Why are they here? They should be out on the battlefield.

They caused all this. And while the guy's saying that, Al Jazeera's reporter literally walks away mid-sentence.

So the people, Palestinian people, and I hope there's some good ones there that just want to live their normal lives and have no problem with Israel at this point. If there's somebody that could emerge, you would be quite helpful. But no one has. If you go and give that message, your family will be killed.

So we're helping the Palestinian people by wiping them out to some degree. Not way, but I think we have special ops there trying to find our hostages. There's a report in play right now. They say that with a handful of Palestinians released and a five-day pause, they will release 70 hostages. Tough call.

What would you do? Might do it. Might do it with the precursor. If I see any movement, we're going to attack. If I see any movement of mass troops in camouflage moving towards the Egyptian border, you're dead.

And if you shoot, you're dead. But the other big story in the region, our guys have been attacked 58 times. We have had 27, they say, injuries, but they're minor, and 24 TBIs. The concussions that come and often cause brain damage down the line can cause long bounce of depression as well.

So we're letting this happen. We've struck back, drum roll, please, four times. Four times. It just bleeds a weakness that doesn't work in this area. Secretary of Defense Austin knows better, but I sense this president's in charge.

Here's Lindsey Graham last night, cut 14.

Well, it's pretty clear to me that the model they're embarking upon is to try to keep Iran close, reward them if they promise to do anything, whether they do it or not. We paid $6 billion for hostages and we got an attack by Hamas against Israel. The idea of trying to curry favor with the Iranians is not working. The only thing the Ayatollah fears is a strong America. They're really emboldened by Biden's weakness.

If we give them $1 of money after the Hamas attack on Israel, you'll get more attacks. Got it. 1-866-408-7669. Listen, Martha McCallum's going to come out. You know, Senator Lindsey Graham's frustration.

He knows that. He knows what Joe Biden is like. He used to travel with him. Before he was vice president. They used to be friends, he doesn't recognize this guy.

Clearly lost his fastball. He's urging somebody to watch television and see what needs to be done. Guess who else thinks so? Senator Blumenthal. Things are blurring a little bit.

For us to get better, we got to get on we have to have both sides on both sides of issues and get back to legitimately debating again instead of what Republicans think is what I think, what Democrats think is what I think. You're listening to the Brian Killmeat show. Don't move. Coming to you on a need-to-know basis because Mandy, you need to know. It's Brian Kilmead.

The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian. And kill mead. That's a real problem because we, and this is not just her. We've been signaling this from Kirby on down and President Biden that we don't want a war, we don't want to expand it.

And then we're hitting these little pinprick strikes out there. And of course, as I've been saying, you know, our troops there need to come out and need to move to a more defensible position and not just sit out there vulnerable because the only thing they're doing right now is providing a point of vulnerability for us. Because if any are killed, there's going to be a lot of calls to strike directly at Iran. But just asking them not to do it begs them almost to do it, especially these groups who have an incentive on getting this to come in because they want this war to spread out to bring other people in on their side.

So Uh It's frustrating to see 58 attacks against our guys. We hit back four times and we wonder why the retaliations get stronger and stronger. And we have 27 TBI injuries. With me right now is Martha McCallum. If you're smart enough to be watching Fox Nation, you see her.

And Martha also is set to host her show at 3 o'clock today. Martha, the attacks have not stopped since Sunday. We've got four or five more. Yeah, I mean, and you know, basically, they're so minimized. And you talk about these traumatic brain injuries.

That's not a minimizing thing for these people who suffer these injuries. That's a potentially life-altering situation.

Some of them may be concussed and may get better, and we certainly hope they all get better. But, you know, the idea that these are, oh, oh, everybody returned to duty, you know, is sort of the line on it, which is troublesome.

So that's one side of it. The other side is that we see what happens when you send a strong message. Just, you know, you have to learn from history. In the past, when Iran was received, you know, that kind of strong message, whether it was from Reagan or whether it was the killing of Qasem Soleimani, it worked. It put them back on their heels.

It sent them back into sort of a form of remission. in terms of their aggressive Fighting behavior.

So, I guess they're just going to keep poking us and testing us until something really bad happens. I guess so. We'll have no choice at that point, but I just think sitting in a crouch doesn't work. Also, it thinks it sends the wrong message to our allies in the region. Looking at what's happening now, Israel is getting better at the PR game.

They're bringing in reporters with the IDF, even in risky situations. They're pointing out how these tunnels are getting the electricity. They're under the hospitals. They're getting better at it. And I think they have to realize that now.

Just because you're right, it doesn't mean people are going to understand it. Yeah, there's a great piece in the Wall Street Journal. They've had a lot of good reporting on this, and in particular over the past few days, with regard to al-Shifa and the way that Israel is handling it. There's a moment in the reporting where an IDF member is looking down at a certain area and they see three militants leaving with people from the hospital who are evacuating the hospital, and they have to make a decision whether or not to take them out with snipers. They decide not to take them out, but then it follows it, and later on they get one of them, I think, in another location because he's separated from civilians and they're able to isolate him and take him out.

It also takes you inside their command centers, which are pretty extraordinary. And how they choose what kind of weapon is the most precise in this environment. What can we do? Is it a drone in this case? Is it a sniper in this case?

minimize casualties as much as they can. You know, I I mean i if Hamas Cared about the civilians being killed, they would be part of the force moving them into these. Areas where they can leave. They would say, you know, we know you're not going to give us a ceasefire, but we have this, you know, couple of hour pause. We're going to don't shoot at us.

We're going to take people out. We're going to move them into this evacuation line, which is basically making a corridor down the center of the strip. And we'll get them out. They don't want people to leave, obviously. They have absolutely, they say that, you know, they rejoice in their martyrs.

And It's part of the process for them. Martha, I think that they don't want to govern either. No, they don't. I think they want to go. There's no interest in government.

They say that. Right. They say we're not going to bring water. We're not going to bring electricity. We're here to change the whole Middle East.

Right. And you do it, basically. We want permanent war. You know, Jennifer Griffin told me something you probably know I didn't. I didn't know Qatar was urged by the Israelis to To accept Hamas as political wing, because they said we need a line of communication with this terrorist.

That's interesting.

So I did not know that.

So they take all in, and we obviously have a big base there.

So I did not know that.

So it sheds a little bit of light. How do you feel? About a five-day pause for the release of seventy hostages along with some Palestinian prisoners.

Well You know, people above my pay grade have to make these decisions. I think five days feels like a lot of time. You can get people out in much less than five days. If you have 70 women and children, that you're ready. I think that it becomes increasingly difficult for them to maintain these hostages.

It's not easy in the environment that they're in to keep people alive and to keep them healthy enough to be worth something to them.

Some of them are old. They're like 80%. No, I think that they need to get rid of some of these hostages unless they want to kill them, which we obviously hope they don't do.

So I think they can probably narrow that window and get those 70 people out. I think. you know, working something out along those lines is is is a good idea. Yeah, I mean, seventy is a lot. I mean, just to think about the I was encouraged that the seventy are definitely alive.

If they're if they're bartering with seventy, that tells us that seventy, you know, about a third they know are alive. I don't believe anything Omas says and nobody listening to us does, but they say we've killed 50 in trying to kill them.

So through uh ancillary strikes. Benjamin at Nau doesn't have an answer to the question of what happens next. Nobody he's honest about it.

Well, we're open. We're open to it. Have you heard of a a workable plan?

Well, it's I know um the Palestinian authority has said that they don't want to take Gaza over again. But it's interesting because I talked to someone you spoke with a while back who um Yeah. involved in gathering these voices of Gaza and getting these undercover People inside Gaza who are afraid to speak about their situation because if Hamas hears them trashing them, they'll be dead. But they say, you know, that that's what they want as Palestinians. They want a relationship with the West Bank.

They want to have that, you know, sort of cohesiveness back again. They don't want to be ruled by Hamas. They are living in the same situation that Iranian women are living in under the mullahs. They have to wear hijab everywhere they go. The economy is awful.

This one young woman in this video says, you know, I wish we could be, why can't we be like Tel Aviv? Why can't we have restaurants and bars and like a nice place to live on the water? 18,000 were going in now to Gaza, not anymore. They'll say, Martha, don't move. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. This joint venture is one where one partner has robbed the other one blind. What our intelligence and the facts tell us is that a rising China has been built on the intellectual property theft and economic and military. Espionage in the trillions of dollars over the years. And, you know, it, you know, this just really underscores that Joe Biden and this administration has been soft on China, just as they've been soft everywhere with all of our adversaries, Iran and Russia.

China has advanced around the globe. Their positions have improved since Joe Biden has been president, and it's why China will be working to influence and interfere the election in 2024. They want Joe Biden to continue to be a weak U.S. president. That is John Radcliffe.

I'm sure he'll go back in some form if Trump does win election. Martha McCallum, our show starts at three. We got Mitch Album coming up shortly. But, Martha, your thoughts about the stakes at this summit. We know we have some fentanyl agreement on precursors.

We know we have an agreement to reestablish communication between defense ministers, okay? And we know we are going to agree, according to Foxnews.com, on not putting AI into our defense weapons, which, according to experts, it's over my head, that's a huge mistake because it's a huge advantage for us. That sounds like a pretty big mistake. We lost that military. Communication line after Nancy Pelosi went to Taiwan.

She said she could do whatever she wanted.

So that was the response to that. You know, I just. It's the president's language that I'm sort of listening to and watching closely. And he's still talking about China as if they are not an adversary, as if they are just a competitor, and saying that we are, you know, working to sort of find some alliances. China's in a very difficult economic position right now.

And I'm just curious. I mean, I'd love to be a fly on the wall when they're talking because Xi doesn't really spend a lot of time with other people. He's very reclusive. He has not, his own people, according to reports, have a hard time getting face-to-face time with him.

So he obviously has seen, he obviously senses that there's an opportunity for him. He wouldn't be talking to Biden if he didn't think he could get something out of it, right? I think, and then to go meet with these CEOs for $40,000. No, they're hurting. Their economy is hurting, and they need to have some economic relief and to rebuild some of those relationships.

I think he feels probably that they've gotten away with it for so long. And the circumstances that Ratcliffe points to, in terms of the espionage and the economic warfare that's been going on for decades, he'd like to just be back in that position where he can get what he needs. Exactly, where he can get what he needs in all of these agreements and go back to the good old days for China when every company in America wanted to do business with China. He wants to get back there, but they also want to make moves on Taiwan, harass Philippine ships in the waters off of China. If you watch the videos of the stuff that they do, it's absolutely three o'clock.

Who can we expect?

So we're going to talk to Mike Gallagher about what's going on with this China agreement. He's very clear-eyed. He's the chair of the China Commission in the House, and we will speak to him. We're also going to have a close look at what's going on in the Al-Shifa Hospital with one of Benjamin Netanyahu's top lieutenants.

So we'll speak to him as well. And you're going to have a lot of ride in the news. There's a lot of news all day. Always. Out to San Francisco and back.

Martha, thanks so much for joining us today. Thank you, Brian. Mitch Albums Next with a great book. Sadly, it's applicable today. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

It's about the Holocaust. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmade. Guess who's finally in studio? Mitch Album, best-selling author as you know, host of Tuesday People Podcast. His latest book is called The Little Liar.

It is fantastic and sadly, it's timely. Good for sales, not for life. But, Mitch, it always gets you thinking. And, Mitch, I think you've done it again with The Little Liar. First off, great to see you in person.

Brian, I always enjoy seeing you. We go back a long way back to when we were both doing sports. Right, but you are always way above, and I always appreciate getting a chance to talk to you about life and sports. And I'd like to talk about both. First, the premise of the little liar.

It's actually the opposite. This little kid that doesn't lie is being taken advantage of. Can you set the scene for us? Sure. It's during World War II.

This little boy named Nico lives in a town in Greece. The Germans invade the Nazis. And they find out that he's never told a lie before. His whole village believes him.

So they kidnap him. They decide to use him as a weapon. And they say, listen, you can go back to your family. All you have to do is stand on the train platform for a few days and tell people who are getting on the trains that they're going to new jobs and new homes and everything's going to be fine. And then you can go back to your family.

So he does this, thinking he's telling the truth. And then on the last day, he sees his own family being shoved into a boxcar, and he finds out that these trains are actually going to the concentration camps. And he's held back, and his family disappears, and he never sees them again. And it follows him from. Through the war, all the years that passed, forty years later, and how he deals with the consequences of this lie that he was forced to tell.

And he actually loses the ability to speak the truth ever again. He becomes kind of he changes his name, he changes his identity, all because he's ashamed of what happened. And his family, meanwhile, tries to find him. For all those decades, to tell him that they understand that it wasn't his fault, and it follows all that story through. It's a big parable about truth and lying, which happens to be, as you say, somewhat timely right now.

And when did you get the idea? It's a true based on a true story, not about the boy, but the Germans actually did that. They would use Jewish people on these train platforms to tell them, because you figure if you see a bunch of German guards and people say, where are we going? They say, we're taking you to concentration camps to kill you, people aren't going to get on the trains. They're going to say, well, I'll die right here.

So they had to come up with deceptions. The Nazis, Brian, they didn't succeed because they have bigger guns. They succeeded because they have bigger lies, and people fell for them. Their own people fell for it at the beginning. That's how Hitler rose to power.

And then the world fell for it for a while because they lied about everything that they were doing. And certainly they lied to every one of their victims of the millions of people that they killed. They even used to tell the Jewish passengers, give us all your money and the people in Greece, give us all your drachmas because they're not going to be good where we're going in Poland. Here we'll give you this receipt. And when you get in Poland, you take this receipt and you turn it in and you'll get all your money.

And they did it. You know, they literally took the money from the people they were about to kill. That's how far their lives, their lies went. And I just think that that's something we always have to be on the lookout for. And when you write this book, it's about to come out in a couple of weeks, and then October 7th, a month, October 7th happens.

What are you thinking? I'm thinking, like, uh-oh, I bet I'm going to get a lot of questions about, you know, did you write this book at this time? I didn't, but it has great resonance to what's going on in this time. In fact, Ryan, I thought like I invented this holy original kind of concept, a little boy honesty being used against him. And then a war correspondent I was talking to over the weekend, just got back from Israel, told me when he read about my book, he said, Did you hear the story about this kid named Tomer?

I said, No. He said he was one of the kids living in one of those villages on the border with Gaza. And when Hamas terrorists came over, they kidnapped him and they said that they were going to kill his family unless he went door to door. In the village, and knocked on the doors, and they heard his voice 'cause they knew him, and say, It's safe to come out. You can come out.

They're gone. And when the people came out, they shot them. And he did this door to door thinking, well, this is the only way I can see it. This is on the 7th of October? Yeah.

And in the end, they killed him.

So even the things that the evil that you can imagine in writing a novel Is exceeded by the evils of the real world. Mitch Albums here, The Little Liar, is his latest. thought-provoking book that's out of fiction but based on real life. It was also brought to my attention that Joe Rogan was on his podcast, and he was talking about George Soros in a 60-minute interview. If you want to put the headsets on, Mitch, I know you're used to doing that from your radio show.

And listen to this story. This is really striking. You're a Hungarian Jew who escaped the Holocaust. By posing as a Christian. And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made. My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson. went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews. That's scientists.

I mean, that's that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult? Not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't see the connection Uh But it was, it created no problem at all.

No feeling of guilt. No. That if I weren't there Of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would be taking it away anyhow. That's pretty much, you know, so Steve Croft talking to him in 1998 on 60 Minutes. That's not exactly like you're talking about, but using a kid to get confiscated and knowing he's Jewish.

Right. And having to keep quiet about it and, you know, forcing people to lie about their own identity to survive. You know, it was Goebbels, sadly, who said a very prophetic thing: a lie told once is always easily seen as a lie, but a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth. And that's the premise that the Nazis just keep telling the same thing over and over again, and people will believe that it's the truth.

So, when you write these characters, you're making them up of a consolidation of your thoughts and people. I get it. I have never written fiction before, but do you get close to this character that doesn't exist? Do you feel sadness and emotions at that point? You have to.

If you don't kind of cry when they cry or smile when they smile, or when the girl who's been in love with them since she was 11 years old finally finds him decades later and she has to say to him, I know who you are. You know, it's okay to tell me who you are. You have to feel that in your heart. Otherwise, you can't create it on the page.

So, how is it when you write something like this and you expose it and you first begin talking about it? You just started talking about it just this week. Is it good? Do you like talking about it? I mean, is it almost therapeutic to go through it again?

Well, I forget the sales. It's just because I think this story means so much to you.

Well, it is. You know this because you. Do the same. You're doing it right now with your book. You have to sum up something that's taken you years to create in about 12 seconds.

And you always want to say, but also there's this, and there's this other part, and there's this other part, but you realize people can't absorb it. That's not, you know, they have to read it in order to absorb like that.

So I like talking about it in a conversation like this because I get a few minutes to spread out over it. But the ones that are the whole interview is three minutes long, you know, it's tough because you want to sum it up. But you, you know, it took more than three minutes to make. See, you're like me in that. I want people to get it, but I don't want to force you.

Yeah. Right?

So we just had Ted Cruz on. He's a little different. Every nine seconds in my book. You got to buy the book. In my book.

And I'm not screwing down anybody. I just can't get myself to do that because I want you to choose it. Right. Right. And that's what you want people to be.

Now, you and I are blessed. I've written more than one book.

So, you know, people hear Tuesdays with Maury or the five people you meet in heaven. They say, oh, I read that guy. I like that guy. I'll go get his book. Yeah, but I suppose if it was my only book, I would every 12 seconds would say, as I say in my book, and as I say in my book, and as I say, because you feel like it's the only chance you're going to get.

I want to talk to you on One Nation on the weekend, Saturday at 9 o'clock Eastern Time. I'll talk to you more about this. But just. Um It's almost that you try to evolve as a person. Through your books.

And if I asked you Tuesday with Maury, where the foundation was laid, you're already famous as a sports guy and then a sports writer, and then you write that book. And it goes unbelievable off the charts, they make a movie about it. But does it change you at all? Oh, 100%. And I'll tell you exactly how, because you'll appreciate this.

Before that book, and I was on the Sports Reporters ESPN, you know, People would stop me in airports and they would say, Hey, sports guy, you know, who's going to win the Super Bowl? And I'd say, Patriots, and go up the escalator, you know. After Tuesdays with Maury, people would recognize me, they'd say My mother died of cancer, and the last thing we did was read your book together. Can I talk to you? And you can't get on the escalator and go, Patriots, and you have to stop.

And you have to talk. And I had to stop and talk not to one or ten or a hundred or thousands, but tens of thousands of people over the years about this. And it changed me because it showed me how many people are grieving, and how many people are walking around with holes in their heart, and how many people yearn for a mentor, and all the lessons from Tuesdays with Maury. It's not an accident that I never wrote another sports book after Tuesdays with Maury. I've written ten books since then, and none of them have been about sports, and all of them have been about themes that Tuesdays with Maury kind of touched on.

I'm a little bit, you're much deeper than I did, but I was doing sports and I just got hired here as a sports guy, and I was allowed to do news, and then years go by.

So then 9-11 happens, and I was so thankful that I wasn't locked into sports. Number one, I couldn't have stayed here. Number two is to be able to go deep into the people and find out they lost their loved ones. They had the pictures up, and they're walking around. And I'm thinking to myself, thank goodness if I'm going to cover the Yankees and Mets, it's going to be how they're helping other people.

But I never diminish people in sports. In fact, I see it as a relief. No. The five people be meet in heaven. What do you think about with that and how do you research that?

Well, the Five People Me in Heaven was a novel, and it was based on an old uncle of mine who actually told me a story that he died a couple of seconds on one of those near-death experiences. And while he was on the operating table, he lifted above his bed and he looked down and he saw all of his dead relatives waiting for him at the edge of his bed.

Now, he was a kind of salty old sailor guy, and I said to him, What did you do, Uncle Ed? And he said, What did I do? I told him, Get the hell out of here. I'm not ready for you yet. And he went back into his body, and he lived another 10 years.

But I always thought, well, what a cool concept. Like, people are waiting for you. What if people are waiting for you, but they're not necessarily your relatives? What if they're just people who you interacted with like for five minutes on earth, but you changed their life forever and they changed yours just because of something you did? And so I created a story about a guy who doesn't think he matters, but he dies and goes to heaven, and he meets these five people whose lives he changed and shows that everybody matters.

Everybody touches somebody in some way. Lastly, Less or no, totally different. I watch sports now and I'm watching the people that used to deliver the sports and they're talking about point spreads and they're talking about the bets and the parlays and I'm watching other sports. I can't believe it. It's right before an NFL game, so obviously it's getting ratings.

Go ahead. You laugh at me, but I just think it's in the big picture. It's bringing revenue and it's bringing maybe additional interest, but I think it's ruining the games. It changes. Look.

Sports should be about we want to root for our team to win. Uh we want to beat the other guys. That's it. When it starts getting in about the over-under is 48, you know, the over-under is 48. Why are they kicking a field goal?

That's got nothing to do with the game. But if that's where your money is, that's suddenly you're going to be rooting about that and not caring about the necessarily outcome of the game. And you and I were talking before about athletes start getting all this abuse because I had you guys, you know, winning this game, I had you guys plus 10, and you dropped that pass in the end zone. You cost me angry. They might have even won the game, but they didn't win it by enough.

And they get angry. The sports should be enough by itself. And the fact that not only has gambling dominated, but look at every commercial now in a football game, and it's Jamie Fox or somebody else talking about ways that you can gamble on sports. It's totally different. I'm old enough to remember when that was totally taboo, when guys got thrown out of sports if they worked in a casino or had any kind of dealings with gambling.

And now they're in bed with one another. And now they're saying analysts at ESPN. Can no longer they can't bet, period.

So they made that mandate. Disney made that mandate. First, he didn't want to do gambling.

Now they're doing it.

Now they're telling these analysts, you can't gamble on these games. Right. So we can just take commercials that show you how you do it, but you can't do it. Right. So, and my last point on this is the player's getting suspended.

I mean, they keep it low profile because it's so tempting. They have one in Detroit, Jamison Williams, who missed the first six games of the year because he was betting on some other sport. You know, it's like, well, wait a minute. And he's a kid, but. It's like, hold on.

The commercials when we go to commercial break are all about betting on us, but I'm not allowed to go bet on anything else. You're feeling about Pete Rose now? I think time will change his perspective on that for sure. Certainly, look at it now. I mean, it doesn't mean the same thing, does it?

Let's bring back sports reporters. We just need four people audition, then we'll come out on Fox on Sunday mornings at 8:30. What else are you guys doing? Absolutely. Wait, that hurts Fox and Friends, but you meet Fox Sports.

Fox Sports. Mitch Album's got a brand new book out. It's certain to be as big a seller as all the others. It's called The Little Liar. Thanks so much, Mitch, for joining us.

I appreciate it. Great to see you, Brian. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music with your Prime Membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Mm.