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So much going on. 100,000 people at least descending on Washington, D.C. in support of Israel. That's pretty cool. Where it's most of the State Department and some in the Pentagon, pro-Iran in the Pentagon, you believe that?

And of the State Department and among White House officials, mostly under 35 and staffers on the Hill against. Israel. Do you believe this? Senator Ted Cruz in 15 minutes. Mike Pence.

And Charlotte Pence at the bottom of the hour.

So, and of course, you. I'll get your calls and your insight. And I hope to see everybody tonight at Connecticut at R.J. Julia Bookshop talking about Teddy and Booker T, the new book that's out that the whole world is talking about. According to my reports, let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. There was a question of humanitarian. I think they were very clear we can't have a ceasefire. But I don't think anyone argues for a general ceasefire.

That's not going to happen. By the way, the only time we'll have a ceasefire is for the return of our hostages. Yes, and by the way, there is a mini pause going on right now, humanitarian purposes, and they are bringing over more incubators into that hospital. Israel at war. The latest from Gaza while the Pentagon and State Department discover traitors in their midst and adversaries on their team.

This is pro-Israel Americans gather in D.C., the biggest demonstration ever. Number two. The president called you a word that because we are live in London, I am not allowed to say on television, but it starts with a P and ends with K, your response. Listen, I understand. He was irritated because I raised concerns that many, many Democrats had.

And again, you know, my feeling is: either get out or get going. 2024. Joe can't do it and Dems know it. I am talking re-election, but he's too bullheaded or empty-headed to realize it. The elaborate plan to aid him unmasked as Nikki Haley unveils a plan to KO Ron DeSantis and take on Trump.

Number Anytime you put on an event, by definition, you know, you have people over your house. gonna clean up the house. It's actually pretty frustrating to see that apparently the city that I grew up in was so easily cleanable for the 21 world leaders but not for taxpayers. 100% correct, and I feel the pain of San Francisco. Showdown or frivolous meet and greet.

That's the choice the President will have to finally make when he meets with the Chinese President after begging for this meeting in San Francisco at the summit for months. By the way, the degraded city underwent a massive cleanup, but already looks like a fail. And here's why. There's a Czech Republic Uh production crow. You know, reporters, they work for a TV station there.

They were robbed at gunpoint, lost $18,000 worth of equipment, and they got to go and do these stories. And now shooting it on iPhones. They went quickly to a Best Buy. That's the problem. A friend of mine was in San Francisco a year and a half ago, parked to go into a Starbucks, came out, all the windows are smashed, and their luggage is gone.

So. They took it, they ended up on somebody's lawn. Thankfully, somebody called them. And then when they brought the car back, they saw all these other cars smash the same thing. The guy's like, yeah, it happens non-stop.

There are no cops around. There's no enforcement on it. And that's where that's who's hosting this.

So to see what they did, Davin Newsom is a smart politician. He'd say We got to do this every day. We got to do what Rudy Giuliani did in New York and just clean up these streets right away, the way we did it today. I don't know what they did with the homeless. They went somewhere.

Maybe they went to a facility. Maybe they got some mental health treatment. I think doctor Drew told us A couple of years ago, we did some studies and talked to people who are homeless, and it's not because they can't pay their bills. For the most part, it's all mental illness and drug addiction.

So that's what's going to be happening at the summit. Evidently, the Chinese are going to say we're going to crack down on the precursors for fentanyl, but they never do. What kind of what kind of enforcement will there be? What kind of leverage might we have? In exchange for what?

Obviously, the easiest thing for China in an oppressive society like that is to stop anything, anything, because they have they make up their own rules. All you have to do, punishable by death. If I found you find you with the precursors to fentanyl. End of story. We could never do that here.

I'm glad about that. But they could end that in a second.

So They are vulnerable. Economically, I'm talking about China. They do have a declining population because of their one-child policy for decades. They are in a situation where deflation has taken over, the real estate market has collapsed, there's a youth unemployment through the roof, but they feel as though we are no longer a legitimate threat. They think we are a declining power.

There are indications that we're declining, but we're not a declining power. The choices this president has made have been absolutely epically awful. From Afghanistan to not fully financing our Defense Department to letting our Navy rot and not being bothered. that uh recruiting is off everywhere except the Marines. But If you see President Biden try to do a wreath ceremony, if you watch him fall up the stairs.

If you see him call the vice president the president yesterday at the White House. How worried are you as an American that he is just going to get steamrolled? By President Xi. For Bob Blideheiser, he doesn't get into politics, but he knows China as well as anyone in the country. And you know who also believes that?

Most Democrats, one of the superstars. of the Trump administration, who, by the way, loves him, and would go back. Here's what he said yesterday, cut six. China is more aggressive than they have been in decades, and they're a real threat to this country. And unfortunately, this administration and this president do not understand that.

Their policy is not in the national interest from a national security point of view, certainly not from an economics point of view. Yeah. And the whole thing with China, too, while they go down the street, there's supposed to be a number of protests. They're going to be talking. By the way, we never even brought up the spy balloon.

So, when they were trying to set up a meeting between President Xi and the president, out comes a spy balloon across the country. It's a spy balloon. They never apologized for it. In fact, they said they want it back. We didn't shoot it down over Montana, didn't shoot it down over the Dakotas, we shoot it down over the water, and we never hear anything else from it, no apologies, but things got worse from there.

They buzz U. S. assets in the South China Sea, accused of influencing Americans through TikTok. China launched a spy balloon flight that's never been explained. We find out there's been others that have never been addressed.

If we didn't have one enterprising reporter in Montana, would we have known about it? What I'm sad about is I think the President's priority is climate change. protests against the president For climate change against China, for human rights abuses against China, the Israel-Hamas war, they'll probably be against Israel. For a mas but they have huge fences down the street to protect the world leaders. Which is more than a little embarrassing.

They don't know what it's like to have legitimate protesters and let dissenting voices have a voice in this society. But the other story is the cleanup of this city. As I mentioned, Gavin Newsom decides, I used to be mayor here, let's clean it up. Let's not embarrass ourselves, and they do. It didn't stop crime from taking place with this Czech journalist, quote, they were heading out my camera.

They were They were heading at my cameraman, aiming a gun at my stomach and one at my head. I'm the one of those many people who used to read Jack Kerouac's On the Road, and I was so much looking forward to visiting your city. How embarrass- I'm embarrassed. I went to San Francisco in my life twice. I'm embarrassed that they have a major summit in a declining city like this.

So they lost $18,000 worth of equipment. They got to cover the story. They don't have a backup, thousands of miles away.

So they're shooting it on iPhones.

So Gavin Newsom doubles down on tidying up the city, and it's crime-ridden, and the crime obviously is still taking place. But if they can do this for this summit, why don't they do it every day and begin to change the cycle of violence, of crime, crime Of pestilence, of drug abuse. Here's Crystal Bailey from KTVU explaining the cleanup cut three. City leaders are making sure the city shines. BART doubling down by deep cleaning their stations overnight more often.

Scrubbing and power washing is happening all over the city. It's noticeable how clear the streets look and how few homeless encampments there are on major thoroughfares. Public Works is installing decorative crosswalks in North Beach and Chinatown, and the Webster Street Pedestrian Bridge in Japantown was recently repainted. Why? all those things.

Except for removing the homeless, which needs a plan. Could have been done every day. Any good mayor would say we're tripling the amount of power washers we get out there. I remember they gave incentives to Rue Giuliani, gave incentives to the garbage pen. If you can pick up more.

And you can figure if you can pick up more and do more routes, I'll give you an extra day off. He used to also give incentive if you get done earlier, go home earlier.

So people wake up and they're not uh rimmed with garbage on all the streets. Things like that work. Coming up next, Senator Ted Cruz, author of a new book, Justice Corrupted: How the Left Weaponized Our Legal System.

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It's a must. Fall. The sake of Humanity.

So there's a lot of pressure on Israel right now to go easy on Gaza. You know what I love? I watched our channel and I watched CNN yesterday. The IDF brought the reporters deep in to the hospitals, to the children's centers, and not into the tunnels because they sent robots into the tunnels, which is smart because I hear they're lethal. They want to lure you down there.

But that's what they're up against. If you leave the tunnels and walk past the hospitals, and by the way, tunnels under the mosque, too. Then you left them intact.

So you owe it to the Israelis who were massacred. And any Arabs and Americans, I think that a bunch of countries Russians were taken. You have French were taken, Brits were taken, you have nine Americans down there, one green card holder, you have a three-year-old. You owe it to them to root everybody out of. of Gaza.

At the same time, you don't want to see any young child being hurt. You don't want to see any hospital being robbed of power. And that's pretty much we're in the middle of right now.

So that was Jocko Widado. He is the Indonesian president. making a statement yesterday with the President right by his side.

So the President's getting pressure from his own staff From his own State Department. It's not technically is, but own State Department, who have all these letters of dissent and these petitions rolling out saying that most of them are under thirty-five, saying you're on the wrong side of this. Which to me is crazy. Here is Rashida Tlaib, cut sixteen. I know.

I've seen the stats, I mean, the polling shows majority of Americans, over 65% of Americans, including 80% of them being Democrats, want a ceasefire. They are also horrified. horrified that our President is calling on Congress to find more bombs. that are being dropped on innocent civilians. Our movement for a ceasefire is only growing stronger.

I say this all the time, consistently to my colleagues. When they tell me that folks are coming to their offices, I said, it's not me, it's your constituents. Senator Ted Cruz joins us now. That is one of the members of the squad, Rashida Talib, who has just censured. Senator, welcome back.

It's amazing the pushback the President's getting from his own party, his own staff, the State Department that Blinken heads up. As well as there seems to be an Iranian Iranian sympathizer at the Pentagon pushing back against the MEK, the dissident group. Senator, your thoughts about this issue.

Well, Brian, good morning. Good to be with you. Look, this issue is a manifestation. And a graphic manifestation of the central phenomenon I talk about in my brand new book. Unwoke.

how to defeat cultural Marxism in America. This is cultural Marxism that we are seeing. The rabid anti-Semitism, the vicious protests At university campuses where Jewish students are threatened. They're afraid to go to school. Just this week, Jewish students at MIT.

Were prevented from going to class by rapidly anti-Semitic mobs. The Jewish students reported they feared for their lives. And and the reason for this, what my book Unwoke explains. is how the radical left seized control of every major institution in America. From universities to K-12 education to journalism to government to big business to big tech to entertainment to science, all across the board.

And and in the view of the cultural Marxist, The world is divided between victims and oppressors. And Karl Marx argued for the violent revolution of the victims. For him, the proletariat, it was the working men and women overthrowing the the owners of capital.

Well, today, the cultural Marxists, they look at the Middle East. And they have defined Jews as the oppressors. And they have defined The Palestinians as the victims, and so the cultural Marxists today. Celebrate the horrific atrocities of Hamas. because they are for the violent revolution and overthrow, and it is grotesque.

It is twisted, and sadly, it is the heart of today's Democrat Party, as you were just playing in that interview right there.

So, Senator, it's kind of odd for you because you used to debate Democrats like Bill Moore. He can't recognize his party. He said for the first time in his life, he called out Barack Obama. I was insulted. Barack Obama says, Well, our hands are all dirty.

Excuse me. Don't rope me in with this. My hands are not dirty in this. And and neither is most of the people listening right now. No, that that's Yeah.

Exactly right. I was actually on Bill Maher's show just on Friday night, was out in LA. And first time I've done the show, it was a terrific show. Look, look. Bill is an old school liberal, so he and I disagree on a lot of issues.

But he actually believes in free speech. He believes that. In reality, and so he has the courage to stand up to this woke nonsense. And and You know, when Obama said, all of our hands are dirty, what utter and complete garbage.

Now, Barack Obama said. sent $100 billion to Iran. Iran is The lead Funder for Hamas. Joe Biden has sent one hundred billion dollars to Iran. Joe Biden and Barack Obama in a very real and practical sense.

Funded the death squads that were murdering civilians, that were raping women and girls, that were slaughtering infants. And so, no, all of our hands are not dirty.

Some of us were fighting every step of the way, saying, Do not give money to lunatics who terrorists who say they want to murder us. If you give them money, they will use that money to murder us. exactly what happened and yet They're trying to just wash all of that away. Senator, I hear staffs, Republicans and Democrats under 35, White House workers, State Department, they're all on the other side of this issue. Have you found that the next generation just forget about Republican Democrats?

Have you found that they're just not sympathetic to the Israeli cause? Look, it is an enormous problem. Harvard recently did polling of American Yeah, I think it's a very important thing. fifty one percent of young people said that Hamas was justified. And this is the consequence of indoctrination.

What I explain in the book on woke. Chapter one is is the universities. I described the universities As the Wuhan Lab. of the woke virus. That's where it was created.

That's where it's mutated. That's where it spread. And our kids in K through 12 education and universities. Are being indoctrinated. And I'll tell you also: the last chapter of the book is on China, and I explain how China is intertwined with every one of these.

And if you look on TikTok right now, which is controlled by China. TikTok is pushing rapidly pro Hamas propaganda right now to young people. They're pushing it aggressively. Because they want to undermine America. This is a very deliberate strategy.

And so, this book, Brian. It's all about laying out specific concrete steps We can take to fight back, to take the institution back, because we can take it back. And the book's doing great. I was one of your first interview centers. Ted Cruz, congratulations on Unwoke.

Appreciate it. Thank you, Brian. Go to Amazon, buy the books. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Hey, welcome back, everyone. Brian Kilmeat Show here. My privilege to have in the studio Mike Pence, and more importantly, Charlotte Pence Bond, authors of a brand new book, Go Home for Dinner: advice on how faith. Makes a family and family makes a life. Welcome, thanks for doing this book, and thanks for coming in, guys.

Appreciate you seeing you. Whose idea was, Charles, is this your idea? Um no um To me, and kind of just wanted to talk about it and talk about potentially doing this together. But it was really all him. Yeah, it's his.

Yeah, I signed it. It was my daughter's very modest. She actually has a children's bestseller under her belt. She knows about our families. You know about that.

You're one of my favorite authors. Thank you very much. You follow these things closely. But when I signed a two-book deal, the way it happened was a friend a couple years ago said. You know, I'm really interested in your autobiography.

I look forward to reading that. I like politics. But he said, the story I really want to read. is how do you have a family like yours Living the crazy life in politics that you've lived at all these different levels. Never off.

And that was where Go Home for Dinner was born. We thought that would be an opportunity to really write a book that says, Here's how we took our Christian faith, here's how we put those principles into practice, here's how we made a priority for our family. But the chance to work on it with my daughter, who lived all those days, was a real joy for me, Brian. Cheryl, when did your dad start getting in office? Your whole life he's been in office?

No, but a lot of it. And when I was six, he ran for Congress the third time for him, first time for us as kids.

So, really, yeah, I mean, he was in Congress when I was first through 12th grade, and then governor and then vice president.

So it's been a long time. You got to be in two places, right? Two places at once. Literally, when you're home, you got to work, and you're there, you got to work.

So, did your dad have dinner with you? Yeah, he did. It's not just a good title. He really was home for dinner, and we would go into the Capitol building to have dinner with him sometimes. But he really made an effort to be home for dinner.

We moved to Washington, D.C., the Washington, D.C. area when he was in Congress, so that we could be nearer to him, so he could be at violin recitals and soccer games and things like that. And he really, he really was. It really, you know, for us it was all about making a decision to make a priority for your family. You know, people the title was also born back when I was in Congress, back when we first met Brian.

People would sometimes come up to me and say, you know, where do you see yourself in five years? It's kind of a You know, it's just implied flattery. And I would always respond the same way. I'd say, Home for dinner. Because, look, I never need to be motivated to work hard.

I love to work hard. I love to see how I can make a difference in the world. But the decision to shut off the computer to get in the car and sit down, as we say in the book, put the phone in the dish and sit down and listen to your kids and reconnect with your family on a regular basis. You know, we say that a lot of people in the busy world we live in today can't be home for dinner every day, but there's a way that you can make time on a regular basis to spend time as a family. And I think it's a key to really strengthening our nation.

Do you feel good about putting this together? How about you? How about the rest of your family? I know your brother's serving, right? Oh, yes, he is.

It's been great. It's been a great memory, really. I had my first child in February, so that was a big part of this. We were doing the book on Zoom sessions, and she was usually sleeping on me while we were working on it. And it was a good.

Chance for me to learn about putting your family first. I had to live out the principles in the book while we were working on it because I was a parent and I hadn't been a parent before, and I had to put the computer away and spend time with her and put her first. And so that was really, really impactful for me to learn at the same time. And it's not, like my dad said, it's not just about. being there for dinner.

It's about mentally being present too, which is hard getting harder and harder. And so we even talk about that. We talk about strategies for that and how you can make sure that your family knows you want to be with them and you're engaged with them. We try to we really try to uh you know, say th these are things that You know, from the time I put my faith in Jesus Christ, I wanted a Christ-centered home. Karen and I developed our marriage around our faith.

But it's also about being really practical about trying to build levees around your marriage. You know, some of the decisions Karen and I made about our marriage got a lot of attention when I was vice president, a lot more than I ever expected. But as I traveled across the country, I will not go have lunch with another woman. Just not dine alone with a woman that's not my wife. It was a promise we made to each other when we first got married.

But that's what in the book we say there were a lot of ways you can build levees around your marriage and around those most important relationships in your life. But, you know, we also try and be transparent about lessons learned along the way. And my hope is that the book is an encouragement because the truth is the American family is in a lot of trouble right now, Brian. I mean, you speak about that often. The truth is that in many ways, Marriage and the traditional family are in free fall in this country.

And so, as all of us think in these anxious times about what we can do to turn America around, you know, our message at the end is, you know. Save your family. Save America. Go home for dinner. Yes, um, it's amazing too, because I'm getting all these emails now of with people with their pronouns.

And I'm thinking to myself, what is this about? How hard was the family decision to stop running for president? You know, I was that a personal decision? It was, well, for Karen and I felt called to run. You know, we spent two years traveling around the country after we left office.

And I spent some time with you here in this studio when my first book came out. And we were just determined to step forward and offer our own vision of leadership and a fresh start for the country. But I'll be honest with you, Brian, it was harder to end our campaign in my heart and in my mind than it was to start it because I'm a competitive person. I'm somebody that thinks, you know, just keep fighting. But as we reflected on it, as a family, as we talked about it, we just, you know, the Bible says there's a time for every purpose under heaven, and it became clear to us, this is not my time.

And so we made the decision to step away. And while we were disappointed, we have peace about it. Charles, were you in on that decision? You know, my parents they they take our advice um a lot or they'll listen to our advice, they'll ask our advice and it's always a family thing that we're doing. Um I I yeah, I mean, I I would say I I've always kind of been in a lot of positions.

I have a I have a chapter in the book about January 6th that I write because I was there. And so I've kind of been around for some of these big moments and as of my siblings, of course. But yeah, I I mean it it's you know, it's it's it's a it's an interesting world in politics right now, and I I'm frustrated with it. I think a lot of people are, but um, you know, I support my parents, of course. Is Trump a word that's not brought up in your house these days?

It's not not brought up. I mean, we're as interested in public affairs as anybody. But Charlotte's, again, she's being modest. I mean, back on the campaign in 2016, Charlotte literally traveled 130 out of 132 days with us. She was in a gap time in her own education, and her brother and sister said somebody's got to be there to watch mom and dad.

So she ended up writing a book entitled Where You Go, Life Lessons from My Father, all about the campaign. And the last chapter of this book, Go Home for Dinner, is simply entitled Stay, because while I've gotten a lot of attention and, frankly, a lot of encouragement from people around the country that we stayed at our post on January 6th when we finished our work. A lot of people don't know that my wife Karen and my daughter Charlotte were there at the Capitol. They also refused to leave. They insisted on staying.

They were there until four in the morning. And she writes about that in a very compelling way. But I love the chapter that she wrote because it says whatever is coming at you and at your family, the first lesson is stay. Stay together and find your way through it together.

So, um, Mr. Vice President, w that day, was that the armed guard that ended up shooting the woman with were they watching you? No, not to my Secret Service detail was connected with me. And those tragic events, I think, were involved Capitol Hill Police. And still heartbreaking to think of the loss of life, the injury to police officers that took place there.

Ashley Babbitt. But that was in your Secret Service. It was. I was evacuated from the floor of the Senate that day. And as I write about in my previous book at some length, and Charlotte writes about it in her chapter of this book.

We were evacuated to a small office just off the Senate chamber. But as Charlotte recounts, I didn't want to leave that office next to the Senate chamber. And the Secret Service was telling me again and again, we've got to move you out of here. And I looked at him at one point and I said, You're not hearing me. I'm not leaving.

I was just absolutely determined in my mind to stay at my post, do my job. And it was Charlotte that intervened with the Secret Service agent and said. Is there Is there somewhere else we could go in the capital? Other than right here.

Well, trying to find a compromise because I knew he wasn't going to leave, and I knew the Secret Service needed him to leave. And so he wanted to stay at the Capitol building.

So I just asked, is there somewhere at the Capitol that we can go that you guys, you know, we would be happy with and we would be safe? And so there was. And so they took us down to the loading dock where we stayed the rest of the day.

So you're out there campaigning. You said almost everything was positive. Oh, it was a great experience. I love what I just talked to Tim Scott yesterday, who also went through a tough decision to suspend his campaign. He's an extraordinary American and a great friend of mine.

But I love what he said on Fox News, the Trey Gowdy show, where he said anybody that wants to get a higher opinion of this country should run for President because our politics are really divided right now. But you get out among the American people and wh whether they're for you or against you, people are unfailingly gracious and encouraging. They appreciate your willingness to step forward. And with just a few exceptions, we had a We had a terrific experience on the campaign track.

So he said, This is not, it goes as clear as this is not my time. It's not saying down the line he's not going to run again. Right. Have you thought the same thing? Because you're young enough.

Have you thought this just maybe this is not my time?

Well, our conviction was that the That this was not our moment, this was not our time. But we learned a long time ago never to limit God. But, you know, it's a real blessing for me that the That departing from the campaign trail and from active politics coincided with the long-planned release. Of a book about what matters most to us. You know, if anybody that knows the Penses knows that our faith in Christ, our family is the most important thing in our life.

And, you know, my hope is that maybe as we begin a new season in our life, that people will gain some inspiration. And, you know, whatever the Lord has for us, my aspiration will always be to go home for dinner. How surprised are you? That President Trump is leading right now by 20, 30 points in almost every state. You know, be honest with you, when you look at the failed policies of President Joe Biden at home and abroad.

The way he's weakened this country, I understand people's enthusiasm for the record of our administration, for the President's record. I get it. I mean, America was more secure, it was more prosperous, and the world was more at peace during our administration. I'm proud of the role I played in all of that. But in many respects, I think that some of the resilience of the former President's support is a reflective of how concerned people are about the direction of the country.

I share that concern. That was why I ran for president and why in the days ahead we're going to be thinking and praying deeply about what role we might play in helping to turn this country around. I will take a time out to talk a little bit more with the Vice President and his lovely daughter, Charlotte Pence Bond. The name of the book is Go Home for Dinner. A few more minutes with Mike Pence in just a moment.

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Hey, we're back. Mike Pence and Charlotte Pence Bond are here, and their book is called Co-Home for Dinner. And the vice president just made a big decision to not run, suspend this campaign. Pim Scott, over the weekend, surprised Trey Gowdy. He did not know.

to spend his campaign. Mr. Vice President, you said everyone is coming up to you asking for an endorsement. Have you thought about it?

Well, you know, we are taking time mostly to focus on our family and our moving our life forward. I told people the only thing harder than suspending our campaign. Um Would have been if we'd just never tried. You know, I just as I said when I announced back in June, Brian, I think this country is in a lot of trouble. I think this is a moment where all of us that have the ability to make a difference have an obligation to try.

And so I'm glad we ran. But now as we move forward, we're excited about this book because it gives us a chance to talk at a more personal level with the American people. People have oftentimes come up to us and let us know they're praying for us and encouraged by us. And I hope in this book that with the great work my daughter did on it with me, that The people will see that it's our faith in Jesus Christ. It's p really practically putting our family first, going home for dinner, that's made it possible for us to serve in the way we have.

Charlotte, how did you feel about Nikki Haley's daughter being brought up in this? Do you in the debate last time? She's 27. And they said, Your daughter's on TikTok. And other people say, Well, you know, keep kids out of this, but when you were your 20s or you're a kid, how did you feel about that?

Um, I think generally I I I don't Like people bringing up other people's kids. I think if kids get involved, then it's fair game. You know, people ask me a lot: oh, you know, is it hard to see your dad talked about negatively? And I mean, I'm a person and a daughter, so I don't like that, but I'm also not a victim. You know, I think that we weren't raised that way.

We're raised to, you know. Understand that if you're in public life, you're going to be, you know, potentially talked about in a negative way. But that's, my dad says that's what freedom looks like. It means that people can say whatever they want. But I think talking about kids, if a kid isn't actively putting themselves in the political sphere, I think you should leave them out of it.

respect. Absolutely. And just real quick, how do you feel about your your husband in the military knowing that you have the Eisenhower, you how how how many d how many people are actually deployed right now? Right. I mean, I y you know, you always know that, um, you could be, you know, deployed uh as active duty, um, and then of course reservists uh know that too.

I think that, um I think everyone's watching very closely. And I think that, you know, of course, it becomes more real maybe when you have members of the military in your family. With your brother, too. Yeah, and with my brother as well. But I think that at the end of the day, you go into the military to serve and you understand that you could be called upon anytime to do that.

In fact, her husband, a lot of your listeners may not know her. We're awfully proud of Charlotte. She's a best-selling author, and I hope she is again with this book, frankly. Go Home for Dinner is the name of it. Her husband's an F-18 pilot and top gun pilot, and we couldn't be more proud of him.

Mr. Vice President, can you ever see yourself, last question, endorsing the president if he gets the nomination, the former president, your former running mate, if he gets the nomination? You know, with regard to any endorsements, I just tell you, we're just going to take a step back. And we're going to listen, we're going to reflect, and we're going to pray because I love this country. And America is better than we are today.

And I'm determined to do my part, whatever that is, to get us to turn this country around. You'll be in an administration or you'll be running again. Great to see you guys. Congratulations on Go Home for Dinner. Mike Pence and Charlotte Pence, Charlotte Pence, put it out, and they got a great message.

Thanks so much for making time for us. Brian, thanks. The subtitle is How Faith Makes From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmeat Show.

We got a busy hour coming your way. You got Governor Mike Huckabee at the bottom of the hour, Stuart Barney coming up. We'll do a simulcast on FBN. And standing by is Mike Pillsbury. And you know, Mike, if anyone knows more about China, I have not met them yet and about what the president's going to be up against.

He's author of the 300-year marathon. He's a senior fellow, the Heritage Foundation. We're going to be getting to him shortly. And of course, taking your calls. And tonight, I hope everyone meets me in Connecticut, RJ Julia, in Madison.

It's one of the best stops.

So, if you're in the area, I hope to see you. That WABC signal carries far, but maybe hopefully that far.

So, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. There was a question of humanitarian. I think they were very clear we can't have a ceasefire. But I don't think anyone argues for a general ceasefire.

That's not going to happen. By the way, the only time we'll have a ceasefire. is for the return of our hostages. Yeah, and that's 244 plus. Israel at war, the latest from Gaza, while the Pentagon and State Department discover traitors and adversaries in their midst.

This is pro-Israel Americans gather in Washington, D.C., expected to be the largest demonstration ever for Israel. Number two. The president called you a word that because we are live in London, I am not allowed to say on television, but it starts with a P and ends with K, your response. Listen, I understand. He was irritated because I raised concerns that many, many Democrats had.

And again, you know, my feeling is either get out or get going. That is true. David Oxelrod, Democratic strategist, Joe can't do it, and Dems know it. And every time he talks about reelection, he gets more bullheaded, or he's empty-headed to realize it. The elaborate plan to aid him unmasked.

Also, Nikki Haley unveils a plan to KO Ron DeSantis and take on Trump. Number one. Anytime you put on an event, by definition, you know, you have people over your house. Going to clean up the house. It's actually pretty frustrating to see that apparently the city that I grew up in was so easily cleanable for the 21 world leaders, but not for taxpayers.

Nice. That is Governor Gavin Newsom, and then you have a very befuddled constituent and resident of San Francisco. Show down a frivolous meet and greet. That's the choice the president will have to finally make when he meets with the Chinese president. He begged for this meeting in San Francisco at the Apex Summit, and now he's got it.

And by the way, this city is degraded. It has gone into the toilet. And their massive cleanup shows they're capable of cleaning it up. But why don't they every day? With me right now is Ambassador Mike Pillsbury, author of the 300-year marathon.

Mike is a senior fellow at the Heritage Foundation. Mike, welcome back. Thank you, Brian. First off, How would you approach this if If the President came up to you and said, listen, I need to make progress here. You know the current situation between the two countries.

You know what they're up to, interdicting our ships, harassing the Philippine boats and trying to take over the South China Sea. How would you approach this?

Well, that actually happened. President Trump had me into the Oval Office at a key point early in the administration, and he wanted to lay out a strategy to how to deal with China. He did that. Um He succeeded because he focused on the idea of negotiations and exchanging draft agreements. raising the tariffs to punish the Chinese when they wouldn't come back for another round of negotiations.

Um Basically, threatening them with even worse consequences if they didn't agree to a certain text. What's happening with Biden is the opposite. There are no negotiations going on. There's a There was an opportunity they had to get the trade agreement Phase II going again. They couldn't do it.

The Chinese just cold-shouldered them at every turn. They started they tried to get talks going about the South China Sea and the maritime incidents, it's called. Chinese refused that. Uh there's quite a long list. Where the Chinese just looked down their noses at Biden.

And frankly, what we're going to see tomorrow, it's pretty obvious already from the New York Times, a lot of huge companies. Tech Titans from Silicon Valley and Wall Street companies are coming to a huge dinner with Xi Jinping, where you got to pay up to $40,000 a seat.

So this is becoming an invest in China. Uh seminar or celebration. It's it's overshadowing what Biden is trying to do, which apparently is have some kind of arms control talks. And agree not to have um artificial intelligence inside nuclear warheads. This is a pretty big stretch because there'll be no verification for it.

So I would say Biden is not doing what his advisers are telling him, whereas Trump did do and was successful with what what his advisers told him. It's a huge difference, Brian. Also, they mentioned he said you're going to restrict the precursors to fentanyl and sending it to Mexico, but we have no proof and leverage to make them actually do what they said they're going to do. That's right. The whole thing gets back to the old Ronald Reagan phrase: trust but verify.

And Reagan's arms control agreements and other presidents as well, there's always a verification. Teams actually flew to Utah to join Russian teams to inspect whether we were building more or less missiles than we were allowed. We got to fly into the Soviet Union and inspect missile production in one of their key factories. The Chinese are laughing at us when we raise this kind of issue. There's been a couple of leaks already, Brian, from the Chinese side, not the American side, about what they're trying to get out of the meeting, the so-called four-hour meeting.

They have a joint statement that they're trying to get the Biden side to sign off on.

So they can announce some sort of progress. But they can't get agreement on the Philippines. They can't get agreement on incidents in the South China Sea. They can't get agreement on Taiwan.

So they're going to be left with some sort of goodwill uh joint statement i think people will just laugh at Biden also risks his reelection on this if he makes a big mistake. Not necessarily falling down, but let's say he makes a big mistake and calls Xi Jinping my friend. Or talk starts talking about what he has in the past, that he has more hours of contact with Xi Jinping than any leader in the world. What if he relapses into that? And the public is already at sort of sixty percent do not trust China, see China as the major threat.

It could be it could cost uh Biden votes in key swing states.

So he has a lot at stake here in being cool and even cold towards Xi Jinping, treating him at a distance. and then making sure this joint statement really is solid on the things America wants. That's what's at stake for Biden in this so called four hour meeting that they promised this morning, is we'll go to four hours in length.

So the other thing is, I don't want to bring into you know, neither you nor I are doctors, but it doesn't take much to see the President call, the Vice President, the President yesterday at the at the honoring the the Las Vegas hockey team. They you don't have to see him wrestling with the wreath ceremony. He didn't know where to go. You're seeing his everybody knows how he fell on stage. How do the Chinese interpret that?

Oh well, obviously they see him as weak. Um they don't seem to want Trump to come back.

So their concern is they're already getting, they've already leaked a huge story on Friday. That the four cabinet secretaries Biden sent over have already made a series of secret promises. To China, that we will not seek a new Cold War, we will not have confrontation over Taiwan. It's quite a long list. It's if it's true.

That this is what Biden's been doing, then it's quite a bit of appeasement has gone on in the past year just to get this meeting.

So that would be the embarrassing problem for Biden. What if the Chinese leak their account of the meeting afterwards? And basically, say he was weak, we got what we wanted, we've lifted the export controls. What they really want from us the most, Brian, is more investment, more high tech investment, whether it's in the military side in China or AI or other areas. And that apparently is on the table that Biden's going to approve continuing American investment in China, which already is in the it's over one trillion dollars.

It could could be even higher.

So that's what's at stake in these talks. And of course they they make these all joint ventures and they take the technology and later kick the guys out, right? Yes, that's an old trick that got exposed by President Trump, that they've got a systematic approach. where they rip off a company's intellectual property and then they replace it to drive it out of business in many cases. or force it to come to terms.

This is the source of Chinese power over the last at least 30 years. There used to be zero Chinese companies, Brian, on the Fortune 500 list of the biggest capital companies in the world.

Now China dominates in the top hundred. The top five banks in the world are Chinese banks.

So their system has worked beautifully, but it requires an American President and, frankly, the Congress too, to go along and allow this investment to increase. But that's what's happening. Here's what Bob Lighthizer said, cut six. China is more aggressive than they have been in decades, and they're a real threat to this country. And unfortunately, this administration and this President do not understand that.

Their policy is not in the national interest from a national security point of view, certainly not from an economics point of view. So he's really worried. He doesn't get into the cognitive state of the president, but he's really worried. You worked with him before. Yeah.

Have the highest respect for Bob Lighthizer. He was the implementer. Of the negotiations. He's the guy who had the text, and he would notice when the Chinese would renege or. Or when they would use an ambiguous term that had to be cleared up.

It's all in his book called No Trade is Free. He gives a very almost hour-by-hour account of how tough the Chinese were in the negotiations. But Trump was onto them. That's why you could get the agreement. The Biden team so far has not announced any trade talks have started.

They've waited almost three years now.

So the Lighthizer is quite correct. I also think it's important to point out that China doesn't seem strong economically for them. I mean, we hear about their unemployment for young people. We hear about real estate has basically collapsed. They have had deflation And they still have not gotten their economy up and running since the pandemic that they foisted on the world.

What do you know about their economic situation and their possible vulnerability?

Well, we learned a lot in the trade talks with President Trump because one of their key reformers. was the head of the Chinese delegation. Mr. Leo He. He wanted reforms and he wanted to use Trump's demands to urge reforms back home in China.

But he's been replaced By a guy who's a kind of a hard liner on the economy. And from what little we know, it looks like Xi Jinping himself manages economic growth and the economy in China. And his first priority is the Communist Party rule continues and stability. His it's only his second priority. That China's economic growth goes up.

But they've got enormous reserves.

So if he wants to pump money in, and boost his growth rate, he can do it. They just the World Bank just raised the growth Rate forecast for next year a little bit, almost to 5%, which could even be twice what we get. We don't know our total GDP for this current year. But the Chinese economy is personally run by the Communist Party. That's the takeaway.

So if they want To really boost their growth, they've got the reserves. Brian, they've got nearly $3 trillion worth of T in foreign exchange reserves they can draw on to boost their economy.

So far, they're not doing it. Yeah, I think they just overbuilt their whole country for a declining population, and there's just nothing else to build. That's the problem that their self-inflicted one-China policy produced for 40 years. They had this idea that there'd be four or five. uh billion chinese if they didn't have a one-child policy and including forced abortions So they've given that up now because they realize they're going to have a country with only old people and no young workers.

And no social safety net. This is the nightmare they're they're facing. And that's why they need so much American investment, American technology. They need Biden to give them the green light tomorrow that they can continue or even expand using American economic uh investment and technology to boost their own growth rate. That's been their story for thirty years.

If you think that they don't want Trump back, and they see the polls, and they do. Do you think they'll make him look good and try to give him some wins to help him? You know, you would think so, using an American way of thinking. This is their chance tomorrow and Thursday to boost Biden's image. And to say he's not a part of the Biden crime family, we didn't bribe him or his son, you'd think they tried to help him.

On the other hand, they are communists.

So It's not necessarily that they'll do a common sense Approach like that. They could, in fact, try to undermine Biden and make him look bad. That's what I think the Biden team is very worried about. Mike Pillsbury, with a lot of experience with years of China, to give a great forecast and preview and some of our mutual fears about what could take place over in San Francisco. Mike, thanks so much.

Thanks, Brian. I'm mailing your free copy of 100 Year Marathon. All right, that would be fantastic. Yeah, you guys should all pick it up and find out what the Chinese approach is. All right, when we come back, I will open up the phones, also get your comments.

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It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. The president called you a word that because we are live in London, I am not allowed to say on television, but it starts with a P and ends with K. Your response.

Well, he wouldn't be the first, I guess, in my many years in politics. Listen, I understand he was irritated because. I raised concerns that many, many Democrats had. And again, you know, my feeling is: either get out or get going. So David Axrod saying That we all know that uh but you know you hear it on the left, especially with people that served with Joe Biden, who are friends with Barack Obama.

A lot of people think David Oxury would not say it if Barack Obama didn't believe it as well, came out four or five times, wrote it, tweeted it, came out four or five times and said that. Joe Biden shouldn't run. He's just too old. And yes, it's true that other Democrats and other Republicans have been behind at this point while in office and have bounced back to win, like Barack Obama. The problem is, you can't fix old and failing, as we watched with the Reed ceremony.

He brought it up.

Now you have this story, just devastating story by Jonathan Martin that essentially says nobody inside the White House thinks Joe Biden can do the job. They all don't want to let him talk in front of the camera. They all don't trust him to pull off any event. They all don't believe he could go out and campaign.

Now they're talking about different surrogates helping him have a rose garden campaign, never leaving the White House, have everybody speak for him. Jonathan Martin does this thing I've never really seen before. Goes out and gives him a whole list of ideas of how to run if you're Joe Biden. Have Bill and Hillary Clinton work on the Middle East. Have the Congressional Black Hawkers fan out.

Uh Corey Booker. Senator Warnock, and just support you and try to reconvene people of color and tell them how great Joe Biden's work is. Dump the word bidenomics. Nobody buys it.

So when Axelrod comes out and says it, backed up by Tim Ryan the next day, you realize people are getting panicky because he's losing to Donald Trump. Also, they've already upped the ante on Trump. I told you, and you probably figured it out on your own, that they were going to vilify Donald Trump. But it's so beyond opposition research. Already, starting last week, he was Hitler, according to Hillary Clinton.

Over the yesterday on MSNBC, he was Hitler about comments he said on Sunday. This huge stretch. Here's what Tulsi Gabbard said about the way the Democrats go over to go after Trump, cut twelve. In one breath, they talk about defending democracy. And we heard Jen Saki on MSNBC saying, you know, if you elect Trump, you're going to undermine the rule of law and throw his political opponents in jail.

Look at what they are doing right now. And the American people aren't stupid. They think that we are and that they can just get away with this. But I think the American people are seeing exactly what they're doing: that the Democrat establishment is going after Trump because they're afraid of him. And they cannot challenge him on substance, whether it's the economy, securing the border, or foreign policy and the issues of peace and war.

So when she went over and met with Trump, she got such blowback from her own party and that was the beginning of the end for her. Plus, Hughes looked at an number coming star when she called out Hillary Clinton. They basically took her leadership position away.

Now she's an independent. I am sure if Trump wins, she'll be with the administration. You listen to Brian Killmee Chow. We come back. Governor Mike Cockabee will be joining us.

Would he join a Trump administration if Donald Trump won? By the way, Speaker Johnson made it clear he will endorse President Trump. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. There was a question of humanitarian, I think they were very clear we can't have a ceasefire.

We have a ceasefire, it means that it's a surrender to Hamas, it's a surrender to terrorism, it's a victory for the axis of terror. That doesn't mean that we can't give, you know, in a specific time, in a specific place, for a safe corridor, for Palestinian civilians to leave the zone of fighting, yeah, we do give them the ability to do that. But I don't think anyone argues for a general ceasefire. That's not going to happen. By the way, the only time we'll have a ceasefire.

Is for the return of our hostages. Without that, it's not going to happen. And then we'll continue until the battle is won. That is Benjamin Atanyahu. Last night we show on Hatterday.

Joining us now is Governor Mike Huckabee, former Arkansas Governor, and we appreciate him joining us now. Governor, your take on the Prime Minister, there is a pause right now, but you know the danger of letting Hamas live another day, don't you? Absolutely. And I don't think that Israel can afford to slack off. They have got to continue marching forward and taken away every single piece of real estate that Hamas has stolen in Gaza and has abused it.

And it's not just for the sake of the Israelis. I hope people in the world will start understanding. that the gravest danger to the Palestinian people It's a mask. And these terrorists, they don't care about these individual citizens. They don't care about the kids or the families.

They may pretend that, oh, the Israelis are doing horrible things and it's genocide. No, it isn't. What the Israelis are trying to do is protect the civilians, keep them out of harm's way. but Hamas continues to push them right in front Of every one of their targets so that they will have civilian casualties. That way they can whine and blame the Jews for it.

The fact is, Hamas could end all of this. The last Palestinian civilian accidentally killed would no longer be killed. If Hamas would let go of all the hostages, surrender. And finally, recognize that they have no right to continue to do the atrocities that they've done to the Jewish people of Israel.

So, you know what's amazing is that the lack of support among the next generation of Americans, even in Washington, on all sides, on all branches, Axios is reporting they obtained a scathing memo signed by 100 State Department and USAID employees suggesting that Biden's continued support of Israel has made him complicit in genocide. Biden.

Some of the memo's language echoes the progressive activists of the U. S., like you see the squad, it says whose anger and protests over Biden's handling of the war have been applied rippled through the Democratic Party.

So it's ripping their party apart. And then we hear about the defense. The same thing with the Pentagon, and then staffs among the congressional aides under 35, all anti-Israel. I did not see that coming, did you? No, I really didn't.

And I do understand that within the State Department, they've always had this sort of an avenue of dissent in which people in the State Department as career diplomats are free to express themselves to the leadership. And sometimes they express their disagreement with policy. That's not unprecedented. But what I do think is unfortunate is that this gets leaked to the public.

So now what we see is that within our own State Department, we have a whole lot of people who are supporting. the uh Hamas-led revolt against Israel. That's disturbing, and you wonder Why are these people taking that position? What is it that? causes them to think that the slaughter and I mean the massacre of innocent children and elderly people and the violent rapes of women is something that Israel should just stand back and say, well, they shouldn't have done it, but you know, we're going to have a ceasefire and we're going to just let bygones be bygones.

The best meme I saw, Brian, was one of Emperor Hirohito saying on December the 8th, 1941, okay, now that that's over, let's have a ceasefire. I'm pretty sure that America wouldn't have said, yeah, that's a great idea, let's just call it a day. And you know what Prime Minister Netanyahu brought up? And he said, When you guys bombed Berlin, do you think any innocent people died? With what you had to w rid the world of Nazism.

I don't know. When we dropped the atomic bomb, do you think some innocent people, non-combatants, died? How about when we dropped two of them?

Well, when's the last time? I I'm not happy about it, but we just would like to win the war.

Well, you know, we know that several hundred thousand people who are completely innocent in Japan died from Hiroshima and Nagasaki. But the calculation was that if we didn't drop that bomb and end the war, there would be even. Hundreds of thousands more, perhaps into the millions, both. on the Japanese and the Allies side that would have died in an extended war had we had to go into Tokyo and fight it street by street. War's never pretty.

Look, let's be real clear. There's nothing wonderful about it. It's like the old song from the 70s said, War. What's it good for? Absolutely nothing.

Say it again. And that's kind of what we have to look at. It's always a disaster. It's terrible that innocent people get killed. But let's put the blame where it belongs.

In World War II, it was the sneak attack on Pearl Harbor. It was the Holocaust going on in Europe. And now it's because Hamas is a terrorist organization that used every dime and dollar that could have given food and jobs to their people. Instead, they built bullets, bombs, and bunkers. And the result is, they decided to go after innocent people and slaughter children and put babies in ovens, rip the bellies of.

Pregnant women. and uh violently rape women in front of their children. And then they want us to treat them gently. I don't think so. That's got to be eradicated.

That's an evil. It's not just a a crime. This is a level of evil that comes right out of the bowels of hell itself. How many times have you been to Israel? Probably over one hundred.

I mean, I've been going this year, nineteen seventy three, was my first trip, so this year marked my fiftieth year of going to Israel. And, you know, I've gone so many times it's Easy to lose track. But I was just there in August and was there before that in February. And I was supposed to be there again next month and again in next February. Not sure about some of those trips.

But you know, it's a wonderful place. And people need to recognize that it's a tiny little land. Here's the thing. The Jews represent 0.2% of the world's populations. I mean, there's only 16 million Jews in the entire world, 7 million of them in Israel.

A little over seven million in the United States, the other two million scattered across the world. Why are the Jews such a threat? That you would have a desire for people in major cities to be screaming from the river to the sea. Let's get rid of all of them. I say let's stand with them because.

Yes. If we pick on and allow. uh a small minority of people. to be targeted for termination. then it's not going to be the end of it.

And they'll be coming after the rest of us at some point.

So we can't do what happened in World War two where people looked the other way and said, I'm not Jewish, it doesn't matter. We need to have the attitude: we're all Jews around here, and we will stand together. Right. And you know, it's interesting, it's blurring party lines. As I mentioned, the president's getting blowback from his own party, the State Department getting blowback from their own party, presumably.

And then you have Deborah Messing, who's a huge lefty, going to be speaking today at the rally, along with guys like Van Jones. And then you have Alan Dershowitz, an avowed Democrat, also can't recognize his party. And then you have. A lot of the Jerry Seinfelds of the world not recognizing Hollywood silence can explain it. Bill Moore.

Taking on Barack Obama. I find that makes this much more interesting to think you got to think for a second. Don't just go with your party doctrine as what is the right thing to do. I'm struck by that. What strikes you?

Well, it's the same thing, Brian. It's bizarre in that the Democrat Party right now seems to lack moral clarity when it comes to the massacre of children and elderly people and women. And that should be a uniting force irregardless of people's political party. When you have a blind hatred Toward the Jews, as some Democrats seem to have. And you cannot separate.

um the atrocities that have been inflicted upon them from Whatever angst you have about Israel as a country or Jews as a people, then you just wonder, what's happened to our culture? We're talking about a definition of civilized people. This is not about the politics of the left or right. This is Civilization. versus barbarianism.

So right now, looking at the Republican primary, goodbye, Tim Scott, groin the great guys. Mike Pence was just here. He is now out. Who is the main threat, do you think, to to the former President of the United States? Honestly, I don't see that.

I don't see anybody that's going to be able to unite all of those non-Trump voters. to an extent to defeat him. I mean, what has to happen is all of them would have to circle around one candidate. And I don't see any of them surrendering their position and saying, you know. I dislike Donald Trump so much that I'm going to throw my support to DeSantis or Haley or Vivek or Chrissy or whoever's left.

Uh Trump has What appears to be at this point an insurmountable lead because, unlike the support that you've got for DeSantis or Nikki or anyone else on the stage. It's a support that's there. but it's not as rock solid. What you have for Trump. is that the Trump supporters They won't be moved by anything.

Rock solid, 100% sticking with the president. I got it. Governor, I look forward to being on your show, Governor Mike Huckabee. Thanks so much. Have a great day.

Now, the Brian Kilmead Show joins Fox Business's Varney and Company with Stuart Varney. Live on your radio and on Fox Business. Here's Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome back, everybody. 1-8-6-6-408-7669.

I'm going to get some calls after I do this amaz with Stuart Varney, which is going to be interesting because we're not only talking about, we're not only talking about. What is happening with this political story that talks about Joe Biden not having any believers on his own staff, let alone other Democrats, and 538 coming out, you know, those. The 538 people coming out saying, listen, Joe Biden should get out if this is indeed the case, how they feel.

So let's listen in. Continues and it's in very strong shape, up five points, five hundred points for the Dow, 300 for the NASDAQ. 10:51 Killmead time. Here he is. Brian, take a look at this op-ed in the Washington Post.

Biden shouldn't run. The Democratic field is stronger than you think. Brian, I can't imagine what's going on behind closed doors as they try to get him out, because that's what they really want to do, right? Stuart, I think you can imagine. This is exactly what people on the outside are watching the president screw up a wreath ceremony, watching the president call the vice president, the president, yesterday, during a hockey ceremony, celebrating the NHL reigning Stanley Cup champs.

They're seeing the president fall, they're seeing him have trouble getting out a sentence, even if we don't even know if his thoughts are clear. He is not allowed to speak to the press, it seems. His own staff does not trust him, according to this political story, to deal in an unscripted situation, not even on presentations.

So his whole campaign will be about staying at the White House and letting people like Rahm Emmanuel come back from Japan and campaign for him. The Congressional Black Caucus try to reconvene the black vote and to just take on Trump and have everybody, including their compatriots in the press, rip apart and make President Trump unacceptable, unelectable. And you know what? We've seen it already, Stuart. Last week, Hillary Clinton called him Hitler.

I think he was called Hitler 13 times because of two lines from a speech the other day that lasted over an hour in front of 30,000 people. And then they come ahead and they're doing it again. They're doing it with the court cases. They're trying to stop his opponent while acknowledging they got a bad client. You got that right.

John Kirby was asked why America is not escalating the conflict with Iran. Watch this. What is President Biden waiting for? Is he waiting for Americans to be killed before he takes substantive action that will actually give Iran pause? John, as you just saw over the weekend, we're certainly willing and able to take retaliatory strikes to protect our troops and our facilities.

We're not looking to escalate, but if they continue to attack our troops, if they continue to put their lives in danger, we'll continue to take action and do what we have to do to protect that. Nobody's looking for a war with Iran, but we absolutely have a viable mission in Iraq and Syria to go after ISIS, which is still a viable threat. All right, Brian, come on in here. Should we be taking a much more aggressive stance with Iran? Success leaves clues.

And the clue with the Ran has always been strength. Strength and willingness to use our muscle. You notice that every time we hit back, we give a statement that we will pick the time to choose.

Well, they've had 54 times to choose against us. They've hit us four times since we hit them on Sunday in those two locations in Syria. Most of the hits are going in from Iraq, coming against our guys. We have not hit there. I guess there's a concern about destabilizing the Iraqi government.

But at some point, you've got to stick up for your men and women. Over 50 have some type of TBI because of the explosion and concussion, even when the missile defense does their job. Of course, we should show strength. But we always end it with the qualifier: we're not looking for conflict. I have news for you.

Your opponent is. We have given this Defense Department $900 billion. Use it to defend us because they're coming here. And that is pretty clear. I just don't understand what this administration is thinking.

You brought the muscle there. Why aren't you using it? I hear you. Brian, thanks very much for joining us this morning. I'm going to turn to Steve Hilton, who's still with me.

Glutton for Punishment coming up to the end of the day. All right, 1-866-408-7669. I mean, you see this report, too. The other story is in a poll, Gavin Newsom is going to be debating. Against Governor Ron DeSantis, November 30th, right on our channel.

Now, Gavina Newsome comes out and he is presiding over this whole Apex summit. It is his state, not it used to be his town, and it's a mess, and he just cleaned it up. Head to head, though, with President Trump. Believe it or not, He loses.

So he loses to Trump. Biden loses to Trump.

So the only way to stop Trump, it seems, with all the problems and the unorthodox approach that leaves somebody like him open to criticism. Is to Put him in jail? Bankrupt this company? Heard his brand? Right now the civil trial is going on downtown.

In New York City. This is the defense, but we know it's fruitless. I talked to Andy McCarthy today on the air on Fox and Friends and says, Look, this is done. I would stop talking because they might be able to use some of this stuff in the appellate court when they try to redo the case. A couple of things have to happen.

They're trying to get him on the civil trial, fine him $250 million and take away his business certificates. Essentially, in their dream world, Letitia James, they would put the Trump Plaza, Trump Tower, they would put the downtown Wall Street property that he has, and they would Put it in receivership.

So, what he's got to do immediately go to the appellate, whatever decision they make, and it's going to be guilty, minimum $250 million fine on what I just mentioned.

So, they're going to go to the appellate division. After that, there's another appeals court. And Andy says the further up you go, the less political they are.

So, that's the hope. When you have an attorney general sit there and watch testimony on a civil case, knowing this city is overrun with anti-Semitism and attacks to the point where the governor has got to dispatch more state troopers and more detectives and more FBI to stop the would-be next attack. And you know, illegal immigrants have to determine have come through. 130,000 have come through, 70 are still around. You have places that are being overrun right now where people just sleep on the streets.

They tried to set them up in housing and get them jobs so they're not looking for jobs. More buses coming on a daily basis. You see crime running rampant. Do you know over the weekend yesterday, they had a cop go down and try to bake up his fight, and he got beat to a pulp or brought to the hospital. Thankfully, they arrested the guys.

With all these issues, With so much to be charged, you know what she does? She goes after the NRA publicly. And she goes after the former president. Because it was a campaign pledge. Thanks so much for listening.

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Here we are straight up in the final hour of this show, unless you're watching it out of order, which could happen, or listening to it out of order. Mary Catherine Hamm at the bottom of the hour. Steve Hilton is here. We're following a lot of things. Number one, we're following what's happening in Washington, D.C.

We're between 60 and 100,000 pro-Israeli supporters is going to be gathering with a series of speakers that are going to blend party lines. Deborah Messing, a left-wing actress, will be speaking. Van Jones. Obviously, Democrat worked for President Obama. He'll be speaking, crediting conservatives for keeping students, Jewish students, safe on campuses or at least backing them up.

And then we're going to see the Speaker of the House also amongst the speakers. I think it's about time we see some pro-Israeli movements out there. We're going to talk about that also in 2024. If you've seen this political story, talked about, Jonathan Martin talked about how almost nobody believes that. Joe Biden is up for re-election, including his own staff.

And then we'll talk about what's happening with President Xi meeting with President Biden tomorrow in San Francisco. And they cleaned up the city. Steve Hilton, I have to tell you that. You live out in the West Coast. I know.

I've seen it. You know that. And now San Francisco has been hosed down, cleaned up. They haven't stopped the crime. They haven't put food on the shelves in supermarkets, but they cleaned up the streets.

Exactly. This is exactly the point.

So very nice that they did that. It's good to be here. Escaping. The madness of this ridiculous summit. And they've put up walls because they know that walls work when it comes to their thing.

They've cleaned up the streets. They've got the homeless people moved on. They've done all that. But what they can't do practically overnight, exactly as you say, is deal with all the other problems. You've got the crime out of control, the highest taxes in the country, the worst business climate, the worst literacy in public schools in California, on and on and on.

Every single thing where you want to be top of the list, we're at the bottom in California. And every single thing you want to be at the bottom of, we're at the top. That is going to take a lot more work than cleaning up a city in a few hours.

So listen to the San Francisco resident, I'm sure you could echo this, how she feels about the sudden cleanup of her city. Cut four. It's actually pretty frustrating to see that apparently the city that I grew up in was so easily cleanable for the twenty one world leaders, but not for taxpayers.

So it's just something that is very fascinating. And I thought that the walls don't work, but apparently it works. They're putting up fences everywhere. And with these fences, you can't even see the abandoned, vacant storefronts that were brought to you by liberal policies.

So, you could hear that, Steve? Yeah, yeah, of course, she's totally right. It's an absolute insult to everyone in the city.

So, for years, they've been, oh, these are really intractable problems, and it's very complicated because you've got the mayor and the supervisors, and exactly that. You can't force people to do what they don't want to do, and they're just living their lifestyle choice and all the rest of it. But it turns out that when you have a dictator in town, you can do it practically overnight. It is a complete insult.

So, let's talk about the summit itself. We have President Xi. The one thing that they've told us already, that he's going to agree to get rid of the precursors of fentanyl that he's been shipping. They've been shipping over to Mexico. No way to enforce that, no leverage to see it.

There's no inspectors that are going to witness it, but that's what they're going to do. Evidently, talk about missile defense is going to be another element of it.

Okay. I don't know, kind of verification there. And then I found out from Mike Pillsbury, a guy you're familiar with. He says that the big story and why President Xi is probably here is they're meeting with all tech sector executives at $40,000 a plate. That President Xi is.

So he's going to be able to get business. He's not worried about the four-hour meeting with President Biden. Exactly. And by the way, just think about that. What it means that one of the they call it deliverables.

I've worked in the government. This is what they call it. When they've got a meeting like this coming up, they want to show that there's some output they could get in advance, and this is a deliverable that he's going to do something about fentanyl. What does that tell you? That he admits that they've been causing the fentanyl crisis in America that's now been going on for years.

So he's been doing nothing for years. That is completely outrageous. This agreement admits that on Cheese Part. And I also, he gave verbal agreement to Trump on that. He said, yeah, let me crack down on that.

He goes, Can you stop the precursor of going to Mexico with the accelerated cartel? He's like, yeah, let me get on that. He didn't really get on that. Of course, nothing. And that's what's so outrageous.

And at the same time, they're trying to say, well, let's have a sort of cooperative relationship with this guy who's been poisoning Americans. But he's been doing nothing while that's happened because he's liked to see it happen because he wants to undermine us. Steve, isn't there a risk in a high-stakes summit like this? Because if you don't walk out with anything, if you call him my friend, if you refer to because it's so clearly their rivals, if we're not enemies, if you go back and look weak, this could be it for your reelection.

Well, look, the thing is that we know that Biden is weak, and they can sense that just through the policy choices that he's making. He can easily have a humiliating moment in the summit, and that's embarrassing and so on. But for years now, ever since this administration took office, they've seen Through the policy choices of this administration, that they are not prepared. They don't face on the other side of the table someone who's going to stand up to them and call them out and actually fight back against, and going back to the point about the tech companies, someone who's just completely happy to see America's leadership in all sorts of sectors just be dribbled away and put in the hands of China. They see that now.

They see the weakness. Here's Robert Leidhiser about the stakes, Cut Six. China is more aggressive than they have been in decades, and they're a real threat to this country. And unfortunately, this administration and this president do not understand that. Their policy is not in the national interest from a national security point of view, certainly not from an economics point of view.

So He didn't want to touch the failings of the president, obviously, cognitive failings. But he said, I'm really worried about what's going on right now. He's never seen it as bad. Yeah, exactly, because you've got China increasingly belligerent, right? They're making not just economic moves around the world, they've been doing that for a long time, militarily in the South China Sea, and they're taking advantage of the global situation.

They're buying Russian oil, they're buying Iranian oil. Effectively, China is funding these wars that we're now rightly focused on in terms of the invasion of European Union. That's where you should be focused. Not buying Iranian oil. Hamas and Israel.

And China loves this kind of global instability because it sees an opportunity to advance. That's what it's doing. And they do not sense on the other side of the table any kind of strong pushback. I heard that part of the reason why the administration is letting Iran sell oil like this is because they want to keep the price. And to keep the price down here rather than us produce it, he'd rather keep that on the market rage.

And this is the total, it's not just the complete incoherence of their what they call their climate policy, their energy policy. It is just so offensive that they're risking these massive national security effects in order to protect some myth that they're dealing with climate. You see at the state level in California, they're laughably. Gavin Newsom goes on and on about leadership on climate and so on.

So they're shutting down California's energy industry. We have big reserves of oil and gas in California produced very cleanly. They're shutting it down. Doesn't mean we're not using any. What's actually happened in the last 20 years, California's imports of oil and gas have gone from 12% to 50%.

And that's the actual consequence of these policies. Shipped around the world. By the way, these oil imports, the most polluting form of transportation on the planet, these giant tankers, that's what they're using as a fig leaf to pretend that they're doing something about the climate. I want to talk in the next block about the war in Israel, but I do want to talk about that story in Politico that just Jonathan Martin put it out, that talks about how. Almost nobody on Joe Biden's staff believes in him, how they are afraid to have him speak, do interviews, conduct an event, and how angry he gets quickly to the point where they mock him behind his back, how determined and bullheaded he is to run for another four years, and how he used an expletive to describe David Axarod for calling him out for saying that he should really think twice about running again.

And it starts, well, you'll hear it. Here's Axarod's response to the expletive thrown in his direction, cut seven. The President called you a word that because we are live in London, I am not allowed to say on television, but it starts with a P and ends with K. Your response.

Well, he wouldn't be the first, I guess, in my many years in politics. Listen, I understand. He was irritated because I raised concerns that many, many Democrats had. And again, you know, my feeling is either get out or get going. So Many people feel as oh, he doesn't do that if Obama doesn't want him to.

Yeah, exactly. And that's what's interesting about this, and it goes all the way back to 2020, a lot of this stuff, because this is what happened. The establishment decided that they couldn't risk Bernie Sanders, that they thought he would lose to Trump. They got behind Biden, they knew his weaknesses, they thought it doesn't matter. In fact, it's perfect to have someone like that because we can run things and he can be the figurehead.

And that's fine as long as he can just about pull it off being the figurehead. But now they're seeing he can't even do that. He can't even do the basics. And so that's what they're worried about. They're now going to have to hide him all over again.

And the other truth that's being revealed by this is what I've said all along about Joe Biden. He's not something, he's probably the least impressive person to be in the Oval Office in American history. This guy is a total mediocrity. He's done nothing in his career for 50 years. He's plotted and schemed to get to the top by doing whatever it takes, by going with wherever the wind is blowing in his party.

No principles, nothing he wants to achieve. He just wants to be president. And that's why he's clinging on. Because he loves being president, not doing anything, just being there.

So, as you know, center-left Nate Silver does 538, that big polling outfit, says this. If Biden can't keep up with the schedule of a typical sitting president running for re-election or it's prone to make errors, which he does, voters in the media are going to notice that, and Biden will wear his 80-plus years like an albatross around his neck. And he went on to say that my view as of the last six weeks ago was it's probably just too late to replace him. But as Biden's polling gets worse, his approval ratings are near the lowest ever. I've been increasingly hedging on that.

Democrats could be taking a huge risk by replacing Biden, but they are also taking a huge risk by nominating him. There's no getting out of this. Your political instincts are great, your experience is vast. What do you do?

Well, I think they're not going to do anything because what are their choices, right? It's too late to have a primary because the deadlines have passed. That's not going to happen. So the only choice is to somehow persuade him to step back. He's not going to do it voluntarily.

Jill Biden isn't going to let that happen either. They're both determined to stay there. They have to push him out. Let's say they push him out. What do they then do?

They can use the convention. That is true. At the convention next summer, they can find some way to nominate someone else. But they're going to go in the back room and just forget about Democratic votes. But think about what they have to do in order to achieve that.

Either. They have to give it to Carmela Harris, who would be the natural person because you're the vice president. They know she'd be a disaster. What they're actually then going to have to do is push out a black woman in favor of a white man, someone like Gavin Newsom. And do you think that this Democratic Party, obsessed with identity politics, can stomach doing that?

Of course not. Don't take it personally, but I think white men are the worst. Exactly. Got to get rid of them. Right.

I think we should kind of marginalize them. We come back. I want to talk more about this, but also Israel's at war. For some reason, picking sides is very controversial in Washington. And I'm not kidding.

For Republicans and Democrats, their staffs, from the State Department, Defense Department, their staffs are divided on Joe Biden's long-held policy, which has been the American pro-Israeli policy, has been the American policy for decades. Don't move. Newsmakers and newsbreakers. Here at first on the Brian Kill Me Show. The talk show that's getting you talking.

You're with Brian Kilmead. You look at the protests that have happened around the country, the protests that are going to happen in Washington this week. You look at the very strong feelings that this issue has aroused in the United States and around the world. Of course, that extends to inside the State Department where people have very strong, strong opinions. I won't comment on any dissent memos, but he has spoken in the past about how he welcomes the dissent channel and thinks it's a very valuable channel.

Well, we'll see about that. I mean, yeah, there's a dissent channel. Yeah, there was a lot in Afghanistan that were totally ignored. They've been in place in the State Department since Vietnam in the 70s. That was Matt Miller talking about how many people in the State Department, you could transfer that to Congress, Republicans and Democrats, and the White House who were upset about the president's pro-Israeli stance.

With me still is Steve Hilton. That was Matt Miller.

So he's saying no big deal about the dissent, but it's got to be disturbing if you're Secretary of State and you don't have the support of the masses.

Well, he just said there's total BS, frankly. The dissent channel. I've worked in the government. I've been a staffer. I've seen this from all the different sites, right?

The point of the dissent channel is for senior civil servants to be able to express their concerns about the practical implication of a policy when it's really serious in terms of mistakes being made, some kind of expert view, not to just vent about their political opinion on the issue of the day. It is completely outrageous. You see, all these staffers in Congress and across the administration virtue signaling, going out there, signing these letters and all the rest of it. No, I'm sorry. If you've lost the argument, if your political bosses have taken a particular course and you don't like it, resign.

That's the way to do it. I mean, that is why. You talked to Secretary of State Pompeo, and he felt like an outsider in his own State Department. I mean, they didn't really want to hear it. A lot of times, they work against you.

Totally. Exactly. Because they have this very strong view that they are there to protect the national interest against these here to what they see as the here today, gone tomorrow politicians. That is completely the culture inside the bureaucracy, and that's why it's got to be dealt with directly. That's why, by the way, in the presidential election, that's why Trump is right about what he's saying.

Vivek Ramaswamy, the same. They both understand the threat to democracy. We hear endlessly of the threat to democracy. This is the real threat to democracy. The people vote for something, and the bureaucracy is sorry, you can't have it.

We're the ones that make the decisions.

So they say that the Palestinians in a homeland, they say that the bombing of Gaza has got to have to be stopped in many cases. They say, without offering a specific example, the memo accuses Biden of spreading misinformation in his October 10th speech supporting Israel, one of the signatures addresses of his presidency. As I mentioned, Van Jones is going to be. Speaking there today. Deborah Messing, left-wing, hates Trump, going to be speaking for Israel today.

The president for Israel. with some measures not good enough. Oh, but by the way, guess who's not speaking today? Oh. President Biden.

Vice President Harris. I mean, what else? You know, they're not there. And so you can't. What else is Harris doing?

That's exactly the point. Her only job, as far as I can tell, is like if the President can't do it, okay, maybe he needs to go to San Francisco to prepare for the XHi meeting, whatever. I don't see why he can't fly out after going to stand with Israel. Whatever. Even if he can't do that, that's the point of having a vice president.

The fact that neither of them are there is a complete disgrace. Yeah, the Speaker of the House will be there, and we'll see where it goes. How much pressure is going to go on President Netanyahu if the bombing continues and the invasion continues? What's this going to look like a week or two from now?

Well, I think that he is actually doing a pretty good job. He did a big media round in the last few days. I think he's doing a very good job of explaining where they're at. His tone, it seems to me, is very different from some of the belligerent tone we've seen in the past. I think he's calm and setting out Israel's strategy, and I think you see it on the ground.

So there is less of the bombing. That is completely now shifting to the ground operation, which is more methodical, it is lower key, and they're encircling Gaza. If you look at what they're doing, it is a change, and you can see, as far as I can tell, I'm not a military person, a clear strategy being implemented here. You know, communications, and now what they did is they brought reporters with the IDF, and they show, okay. Take a look at this children's center.

Look at this tunnel. Exactly. Look at this mosque. Look at this tunnel. Look at this house.

Seems nice. The commander lives here.

Solar panels. Great. You know what this is? This is the electricity from the solar panel going into the ground where we find a tunnel. In those tunnels, are the command headquarters of terror.

You don't have a choice. They're under the hospital. They're bringing an incubator, so they're doing a little bit better of a job. Yeah, I mean, look, I think that it's incredibly important that they do that because winning the war of public opinion is important.

Now, what they're up against is total brainwashing and people who just won't accept the facts because it doesn't fit with their ideological narrative that Israel's the bad guy and Hamas are the good guy, which is absolutely astonishing that we're even in that situation, but that's where we are. Steve Hill, the good guy. There you are. I agree with that. Very much so.

He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. As for the ceremony at Arlington Cemetery. That's not Joe Biden's first rodeo there. He's laid that wreath there many times before, but I guess he doesn't remember what he did the last times he did the same thing.

Look, unless Joe Biden gets younger between now and Election Day, Joe Biden's got a lot of problems coming up. Yeah, there's no kidding. I mean, you're having trouble with a hockey ceremony, you're having trouble with the wreath ceremony, then you've got to go maybe have a debate. I figure they'll find some way to get out of the debate. Who knows?

But he's got to go out on a campaign trail and do maybe two or three events a day. And the problem, just read the political story. It's very easy. It's very easy for people that don't want to see Joe Biden re-elected to find something to write about. But it's pretty alarming when it turns out almost nobody on his staff thinks he can do the job again outside his family.

And he responds with expletives when people come forward like David Axelrod, like Tim Ryan, like Van Jones, and indicate that he probably is not up for the job anymore. But you heard Steve Hilton. Steve Hilton's indicating they really have no choice. Guys like Chris Coons will always be backing him, but in terms of the reelection, They're in trouble. Donald Trump in front.

A couple of things. I see Nikki Haley on the channel right now doing the voice of the voters. That's fine. But she evidently is trying to go after DeSantis and spread him out. And here's what I mean.

They think DeSantis, and they're right. They're putting three full-time staffers, high-ranking staffers into Iowa. They think DeSantis is Iowa a bust.

So she's trying to say, I am not only Iowa, I am New Hampshire, I am South Carolina. Says he is nowhere in South Carolina. She's not even looking at Trump right now. She wants to run DeSantis out. DeSantis, about three days ago, called for her to step aside, says, I'm the prominent one, I'm the only one with the legitimate shot.

So that's a little different than we thought.

Okay, so a couple of things. When we talk about Uh when we talk about uh what Britt Hume was talking about yesterday, and that is. And what I was discussing this morning. On Fox and Friends and yesterday on this show, was as Joe Biden gets more scrutiny and he's not able to stand the spotlight because of his policies, his demeanor. His age.

And he just diminishes before your eyes. They're going after Trump in a way they never went after him before, already talking the most extreme. Fashion possible. He's on a civil trial today. Don Jr.

is there. Listen to what Britt Yoon breaks it down because they're starting to look at Donald Trump and not say the best Republican, they're saying this.

Well, I don't see Hitler and Mussolini. We had four years of Trump and we didn't get Hitler or Mussolini out of it, um although he behaved in a way that was, you know, many people thought reprehensible and unbecoming a president. But you notice there, Brett, the thing that struck me was he always gets around to complaining about that stolen election. And he has campaigned basically on that for a long time. It hasn't hurt his support in the Republican Party, but in a general election I think it would be harmful to him to keep talking about that because it's too little, too late, and it and most people don't believe it.

Right. Um and but people want to normalize Donald Trump. They don't want to normalize Donald Trump. They don't want Van Jones to go over and talk to Donald Trump and talk about how great he was on criminal justice reform and how many Democrats and Republicans came together on criminal justice reform.

Now, Trump's way of criminal justice reform was a lot different than we're witnessing now in these cities and these states of zero cash bail. It was being able to reduce sentences from people. Why Gallis Johnson? who made some mistakes in their twenties who are going to spend the rest of their life in prison.

So let's bring in Mary Catherine Hamm, our kid columnist and a great commentator on everything politics. Although, so much of what we're witnessing now. We've never witnessed before. Mary, welcome back. Hey, how you doing?

I'm doing good. We were just discussing it seems the abandonment of Joe Biden by people in his own party and his anger because of it. Do you in ev of all your years of experience, Can you imagine people bringing up LBJ deciding not to run for reelection? Can you imagine any scenario where Joe Biden from what you know, from Joe Biden just saying, you know what, I hear the critics, I'm gone, I'm out of here.

So I look, I think it would probably be better for their party if he Stepped aside and let somebody else do this, although there are costs to that as well. But here's the thing: Joe Biden has wanted to be president since he became a politician, and he became a politician like 85 years ago. I'm kidding. But he was in his 20s. He was in his 20s when he became a politician.

He's been running for president ever since. He is now finally president, and he's an incumbent, and he thinks he's doing well. Right? And you're telling me that that guy's going to step aside barring some health incident? I don't think so.

Right. Unless They think a meeting with Barack Obama. Hey, Joe, do you have a second? Do you want to sit down on my couch? The guys have been talking.

We want you to go. But he is actually the more powerful guy right now than Barack Obama, isn't he?

Well, that's the thing. The party has a lot of power, and I'm sure the party would like to come up with a solution for this. They have also painted themselves into a corner because Kamala Harris is the successor, right? The logical successor. And for all the reasons of their woke ideology, they can't.

They have trouble passing over this historic pick to run. But the problem is, she's not good at her job. She's possibly worse at it than Joe Biden is. And she's not a compelling political figure. And she actually doesn't attract the groups that they thought she would attract when they checked the identity boxes because she's not a compelling figure.

So that's the next person in line for them.

So avoiding her, it's a real tricky thing to get around all this. And appoint who, I don't know, you're going to pick Gavin Newsome, the white guy from California who has ruined that lovely state during the past four years and is currently cleaning it up for the Chinese communist dictator. Sure, sure. I guess that guy would be next. He can talk at least.

Right. But you know how, and I mentioned this earlier with Steve Hilton, how bad white men are.

So we are the worst. And haven't we screwed up enough for generations?

Well, and here's the thing: like, in their parties. way of seeing things. In fact, that does become his problem, right? It's like, well, you don't check any of these boxes. You're the governor of a large state and you can put sentences together, but we can't have you at the top of the ticket.

So I'm fascinated. Nikki Helly's right now on the channel, and her campaign is now going to invest $10 million in advertising across Iowa and New Hampshire for the final week of this month. The goal is to see her if she can overtake Ron DeSantis and then get him to South Carolina and her being the solid alternative to Trump. Yesterday also came out that Jamie Dimon met with her and has been very impressed with her grasp of the economy. DeSantis, in his move, has dispatched three top aides over to Iowa.

He's Iowa a bust. And I just asked the vice president, former Vice President, Mike Bence, what has to happen to be a legitimate alternative to Trump? He says you have to win Iowa, even though so many times you don't win Iowa and get the nomination. What do you think, Mary Catherine? Yeah, no, I think Iowa is so so important to Ron DeSantis because I don't think the road gets easier for him after that, right?

Unless you make a splash there. I think he's a good fit for those voters. I think he's been doing what's necessary. I think he has an operation on the ground. I think it's interesting that Nikki Haley is going more all in on Iowa than, say, a New Hampshire, where I think she could be a very nice fit for the more, shall we say, like suburban collar voters, a little bit more moderate temperament in a New Hampshire, where if she could knock out Christie and others in that State could do her a lot of good, and then she gets to go home, right?

That's a big deal for her.

So that makes Iowa very important for DeSantis. And I'm a little surprised that she's playing there more than she is in New Hampshire. Traditionally, Mary Catherine, do you believe that if you don't win your home state? For example, Rubio said, I'm going to beat Jeb Bush in Florida and ended up he couldn't beat Trump in Florida.

So if you don't win your home state, if you're Nikki Haley, are you done then? Or if you're a competitive, you wait for Super Tuesday or Nevada? I think, look, consolidation is really important to the party. If you want a head-to-head with Donald Trump, which I think the voters deserve, right, then I think consolidation is important. And I think if you don't win your home state, then yeah, you have made This is a statement that perhaps you're not viable.

Now, but she's been very, very good on the debate stage, and she has bought herself all this. Time and she has bought herself credit, she has earned this, right? And there's no saying that that wouldn't play in South Carolina as well, where she where she is from.

So if you can, you were at TNN for a while. You know do you think on some level they are dying for Trump to get the nomination? And maybe on some level, Wanami be President because they wouldn't have to program anything else? I think many of our friends of the left persuasion and many of whom work at CNN are, of course, that certainly that is a bit of a lifeline. Like it it was programming for a very long time.

He remains a very good, frankly, TV character, right? And I think you see it this week. I've been occasionally tuning in and seeing the story is nothing but him using the word. Vermin. Right, that's the big story, yes, and uh, I just think when there's like you know, the equivalent of a Klan rally or a Nazi rally on every Ivy League campus once a week, perhaps.

him saying a word you don't like isn't the major story. Right. That shows some bad news judgment to me. And it shows that I think like I think all these prosecutors probably want him to be the nominee because I think they think he's easiest to be.

So I'm watching John Meacham talk with Joe Scarborough yesterday. They called him fascist and a Nazi. Hillary called him Hitler. What I think it does, Mary Catherine, it takes those undecideds. And it takes the suburban women who left and came back, who came there and then left, make them go, wait a second, this guy will ruin the country.

He will make it a dictatorship. Unless I'm wrong, what do you think, being that so much about Trump is unprecedented, including this comeback? I don't think anyone thought if you indict the guy four four times, give him ninety-one charges, he'd be stronger while sitting in a courtroom trying to fight for his wealth. I mean, if I told you that you'd go, no, he'd be ruined, he'd be last. Yeah.

No, I think your point is well taken. It's real. The problem is that everything that is helping him in a primary hurts him in a general election, and it hurts him with exactly those voters that you're talking about.

Now, you can try to run without those voters, but I don't think you will win. You won't win a purple state like Virginia. You won't win places like Pennsylvania in these suburban collars like Bucks County around Philadelphia, right? You need those suburban college-educated women who have been turned off. By the Trump years.

Now, somebody, a figure like a Yunkin, was able to win enough of them back to win this state that I live in, and I was thankful for that, right? But it's a very precarious balance. And I do not think that under all these indictments, he is capable of earning those votes. I also don't think he has. Signaled that he's interested in earning those votes, right?

That is a problem for those who would like to see Trump win. He has to find a way to appeal to different sets of voters. He has to find a way to win. And if you think you won last time and you don't need to change anything, you will not win this time. Great point.

And what about the other wild card to this? Joe Manchin going with no labels. Cornell West leaving the Green Party, doing what he wants. And then you have Jill Stein with the Green Party, right? Then you have RFK is not going anywhere.

So if I give you those four people, and Manchin will probably be a ticket, probably be a ticket, be someone running with him.

So. You can't tell me for sure how that plays into each Campaign if it is Trump. Bye. Look, Manchin and RFK both pull from the population that is dissatisfied with both Party candidates, right? Then you've got Jill Stein and Cornell West who pull from the disaffective left.

Of the Democratic Party. And what I know is that if it's a Trump-Biden matchup, it's going to be close. It's not going to be some. Nobody's taking anybody to the woodshed. Like, you guys are gonna be close, and therefore, those unknowns are going to be so much more important.

And frankly, I think if Mansion forms a ticket, It's going to get a lot of looks from people because you see in polling over and over again that what people do not want is this matchup.

So, if they have another option that looks real, they may go for it. Uh lastly, the shutdown Or the lockout, or whatever you want to call it, it looks like Ron Johnson has put together a two-tiered plan that will have a continuing resolution that will need two-thirds of a vote from the House in order to get to the Senate. And they seem to want it. There's no cuts in it, but there's no Iraq-Israeli funding in it either. Here's what President Biden said: Cut 26.

Regarding potential shutdown, I understand that uh The new Speaker of the House has a proposal. It's being negotiated with the minority leader of the House. and Senator Schumer and uh And uh Republican leader also talked about it. I don't know what the outcome's going to be. Apparently, there's a meeting today at four or five o'clock on the rules committee, and we'll see what happens.

Would you retail the the latter CR? I'm not going to make a judgment on what I vetoed. I'm sure he wouldn't veto it.

So, your thoughts about Johnson doing something that got Kevin McCarthy fired?

Well, look, the question was always whether Johnson is going to get more political grace than Kevin McCarthy had. And I think the answer is probably yes, he will, right? That he may be given space. to do these deals. He may be given space to do what is the Annoying but adult move and sort of keep things running along here and trying to make deals because ultimately that's how government works.

And I don't love government. I dislike so many things about the federal government, but one of the things it does need to do is pay its debts and sort of Keep the wheels moving. I think incrementally you can make changes to regular order and have the budget process be done in a more orderly fashion, but you can't do that always under the gun in this way.

So I think him, he has demonstrated by passing at least one other thing out of the house that he is capable of putting votes together. I do think even those who were mad at McCarthy don't want this to fall apart for another three weeks, a month, right?

So they're willing to give him a little space to do what he needs to do. All right, Mary Catherine Ammo, it's great to have you on. You like an outkick? Oh, I'm loving it. We're having a blast over there.

It's a fun group of people. Excellent. Mary, thanks so much. I'll talk to you, hopefully, One Nation on the weekend. All right, talk to you later.

You got it. And by the way, One Nation coming up at 9 o'clock on Saturday night. And you can always get the President in Freedom Fighter. I'll have more on that in just a moment. You're listening to the Brian Killmead Show.

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You know, I've seen firsthand what the reports make clear. The devastating toll of climate change and its existential threat to all of us and is the ultimate threat to humanity. climate change.

So motivating. Give me a second to calm down. It was very similar. To Rocky Speech, to his son in Rocky Balboa, Rocky, no, excuse me, Creed One. That's how motivation that was a great speech.

Remember when his son didn't want him to go back and fight again because he was embarrassed by his dad because he had a low education? Maybe you didn't see that one. But that's, of course, Joe Biden, before he goes out and meets with the Chinese president, is going to talk about climate change. How fantastic. That's exactly what the Chinese want to hear: climate change.

And what about the whole thing about trade deals and about tariffs and about backing up the Philippines? And what about our aggression with Saudi Arabia on down? What about the thousands of Chinese who suddenly are streaming across our southern border and the spies of which are in our schools? No. I would hope that you'd stop with the coal burning.

You mean that we're buying from West Virginians? I.

Okay, fine, I'll do it. That's my big worry. That he's going to talk about climate change. But here's how crazy the world we're in right now. Do you realize among green activists?

Joe Biden is not doing enough for climate change? His left flank is open, despite almost bankrupting the country with the so-called Inflation Reduction Act. It is open.

So that's what he's doing. He's promising $6 billion, which, by the way, has already been allocated. He's saying, I'm going to $6 billion for electric car companies that these car companies are no longer going to make because of the backing of the unions, where he picketed for the unions. And guess what's going to be the first thing to go? Manufacturing electric cars in America.

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