Israel to "pause" ground offensive at Biden's request? Isn't that a cease fire?

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmeat. Hi, Boyd. It's Wednesday. Thanks so much for being here on the Brian Kill Meet Show.

We have a lot to get to, including two great guests, Rich Lowry at the bottom of the hour, editor of National Review, and Bret Fair, chief political anchor for Fox News. Of course, Special Report. They've also got a great book, bestseller already. It's called To Rescue the Constitution, George Washington and the Fragile American Experiment, which has never looked at it. It's getting me a little worried these days because of a lot of things going on in Capitol Hill.

and an election coming up. But before we go any further, this will be one of the busiest days I can remember. Today we might be electing a speaker at noon, and the president's going to have a press conference at 12:30. And of course, we got the ongoing trial in New York City with Donald Trump.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Democracy is messy sometimes, but it is our system. This conference that you see, this House Republican majority, is united. They sounded it then, but they were missing 19 people.

I've always said: four is the charm.

Okay, I've never said that, but I'm going to pretend I did. It's been three weeks after Kevin Carthy's undeserved ousting.

Now it looks like Louisiana's own Mike Johnson will give it a go. And the word is, he is going to get the speaker spot. We'll review it. Number two. But I think at some point, if this continues, what we're seeing being done by the Iranian-supported Shia militia in Iraq, that there will have to be a response to Iran, not to those militias.

General David Petraeus, Iran surrogates attacking U.S. forces in greater numbers by the day and in greater casualties than we were told. Shockingly, we continue not to hit back. Why does this president not understand that weakness only begets more attacks? Number one.

The urban warfare situation they're going to find themselves in is going to be very violent and very bloody.

Well, the longer that you delay, it just allows your adversary to continue to prepare and to dig in. And Israel runs the risk of losing its political support if it lets this go for too long. Israel at war, but could they be open to a pause for people, specifically hostages? While it's great for innocent captives, how it plays right into the blood-soaked hands of Hamas bothers me.

Meanwhile, calls for the UN Secretary to resign as he tries to justify the Hamas attacks. Let's welcome in Brett Baer. Hey, Brett, I know I love to sit there and talk about the book. The world's gone crazy just as you released your book. How hard has it been?

Morning. It's not easy. It's trying to break through. But listen, you've got to cover the news. The news drives the day.

And that's what's most important. I'm at the Nixon Library today, and you've been there. It's a great turnout, and a lot of people really interested in what's going on. And you mix talking about the book with talking about. What's going on?

I mean, it is a fragile American experiment that fits pretty well in a lot of ways. Yeah, it's just really, it's that period between 1783 and 1789 where we were living off the Articles of Confederation and it wasn't working. And the states are going, I'd rather, you know what, I'll stay by myself. Thank you. I'm done with this war debt.

And you talk about how out of the locker room or with a house on fire comes George Washington and how they put it all together. It's a great book, and we'll get to it. But, Brett, on this, I have reason to believe that Mike Johnson's going to get it today. 19 people missed the caucus vote yesterday, three were absent, but most people believe he's got what it takes. I think it's I'd say, I'll say 75% chance.

that he's going to get it in um with the numbers. He did vote against The election results. He voted to overturn the certification. And you know, there is some issue there.

So if there were not the numbers, Democrats may not be inclined to walk out and help him out. Um in other words If the problem solvers, the moderate Democrats, Would go out of the room and not be present, the number would lower that he would need and thereby get the number he needed.

So I think he's got the numbers. I think it's a 75% chance. But You don't know in this environment, and I do think that, believe it or not, Kevin McCarthy is still, you know, around the hoop. Yeah, you should explain this to people because last night in the vote, first Tom Emmer got it, and Trump truth socialed him and said Tom Emmer's a rhythm. Don't like him.

So he got heat-tanked. And then in comes another vote. Byron Donalds was third, I guess.

Somebody else got 43, so then you had Mike Johnson get it. And then it turns out 43 of the 44 other votes were to Kevin McCarthy. And there was talk of a Johnson-McCarthy, excuse me, a Johnson, a McCarthy-Jordan ticket. How would that work?

Okay. There was going to be a power sharing. I don't even fully understand it. And I think it was kind of just made up. But McCarthy somehow would get back into power, and there would be a deputy speakership.

Um And that kind of went by the wayside, but I will say if Johnson doesn't get it. McCarthy is probably next in line. to Try again. And that's insane. But you're right.

It's probably Johnson, but there's still a lot of doubt.

So, this is what people are saying. For example, I texted a moderate today. He said, absolutely. I texted a conservative. They said, absolutely perfect.

Ken Buck, Mr. No, says yes. Chip Royce says perfect. Carlos Jimenez, who was McCarthy or bust, now is going along with it. There was no backbiting.

There was no snarky comments at the end. Three voted present were convertible, but you could miss three. 19 missed the vote. But people like Derek Van Orton, I don't even know if they're back yet. I have to think yesterday, didn't he do an interview in Israel?

So we'll see if he's going to be back in time. I just know this has been embarrassing for the country. And he had 128 votes. 44 Republicans voted for nominees not on the ballot, and 43 of those votes were to McCarthy. And as I mentioned, 20 or 19 missed it.

Evangelical Christian opposed funding Ukraine, which I personally think is a bad move, but the caucus evidently thinks that's a good move.

So we'll see where. That goes, but they got to get back to work. And I asked a couple of them: have you guys been doing anything? They said, yes, some committee work, but legislation's all stalled. And then they got to go earn money and raise money.

But in this cycle, Brett, I don't think it's hard to imagine this not being a big deal by next year at this time. That's true. I think it's if they get their house in order, no pun intended, I think it's possible that this is all kind of a blip in time. But there are going to be calls for the supplemental that the President wants to put forward, the one hundred six billion dollars. That includes obviously, support for Israel and support for Taiwan and support for Ukraine and support for the southern border.

And I think there's going to be a lot of Republicans and maybe Mike Johnson included who want to break that up specifically about the Ukraine funding.

So are we looking at from your Best estimation at this hour, a possible pause to let more hostages out. Yes, I think everybody I talk to thinks that not only a push from the U. S., but the Israelis themselves are working to get more hostages out. I don't think it's out of the question that there's just a little bit of a pause before a major operation. They Are poised.

I hear that there's some back and forth internally between. Israeli military and Israeli politicians, who's ready, who's ready to go, and you know, it's it's probably not long, but they are going to try to Push for some more releases. You only have had four out of 220 plus.

So that could be a long time if you're Waiting in that level. Brett, you just were over in the Middle East. You understand in that region they only understand force and retaliation to stop the next retaliation. And now we find out more details about the U.S. being under attack.

Two dozen American servicemen were injured in attacks in Iraq and over the Syria bases. We know the destroyer was targeted over off the coast of Yemen. Here's what Brigadier General Pat Ryder said, Pentagon spokesperson, said yesterday. Cut 16. Between October 17th and the 24th, U.S.

and coalition forces have been attacked at least 10 separate times in Iraq and three separate times in Syria via a mix of one-way attack drones and rockets.

So We have now, we find out there are more casualties than they told us originally. They said one guy had a heart attack.

Now it turns out 20 people were hurt. Most are back on the job. But we have not answered. And how damn it, I believe it's so damaging for a reputation not to answer these militias and do a preemptive strike. We know exactly where they are.

Yes, I agree with you, Brian. I think I wonder if there is this reticence to suddenhow somehow get deeper into something with Iran and that we've saw we've seen this with this administration from the beginning. I've asked General Keenness. I've asked Senators Kuhns and Thun, who are just back from Israel, and all three of them said. That there has to be some kind of response, measured, pointed, but you can't let it just stand.

And you wonder whether that's going to happen or when that's going to happen.

So at the UN yesterday, to me, this just oozes weakness. Here's our Secretary of State, Cut 17. The United States does not seek conflict with Iran. We do not want this war to widen. But If Iran or its proxies attack U.S.

personnel anywhere, Make no mistake. We will defend our people. We will defend our security. swiftly And decisively. The President said don't, and they did, and we did not do anything.

And what he said, if we didn't get hit 24 times, if we didn't have 90 unresponded attacks at various locations in the Middle East from surrogates from Iran, I would say, okay, that's interesting. But Anthony Blinken said something that blatantly is not true as of now. We don't answer back. It's not swift, it's not decisive, it's not anything as of this point. And So You know, we don't know what's happening behind the scenes.

They may be targeting, they may be getting ready, but it's definitely not happened immediately after this. And it's not like we don't know who's doing it. These are Iran proxies. We know exactly where they're coming from. We know exactly where the missiles are coming from.

And so, and the rockets. And so, I I agree with you. I don't fully understand it. And there is Always been this kind of overhanging question about Iran policy and the Biden administration, and obviously the fallout from the Obama administration. But why it factors in right now in this moment is really a a big puzzle piece.

And we will see what happens today.

So at 12:30, the President has a press conference with the Australian leader. There will not be many Australian questions from the American press. But what would be what do you think the President should cover? Oftentimes, the more exciting thing is things they have to walk back after he said it. This walking away, shouting questions, shouting back, has been a real headache for this administration.

It's not a way to talk about something as dangerous as the situation that we're in now. It's so tense, it's such a powder keg that you can't yell questions and say, ceasefire, no ceasefire. And he says, ceasefire, well, no, not ceasefire. I'm going to talk about it. And you're trying to interpret, you know, not even at the microphone.

I mean, a leader at this moment needs to be clear.

Now, you could take questions, not take questions, but there has to be on-mic comments. that qualify for the world to hear the United States President weigh in on this issue. The thing is, and I always swore I wasn't going to do this, but can you imagine if Trump did that? Just like shouted things out with a helicopter, going, No, yes, hostage is first, and the ceasefire will happen. They'd go, This guy doesn't know how to be president.

He doesn't understand the l the the uh the power of this position. He just yells things out, and it's policy, and his administration is so embarrassed they gotta walk things back.

Well, no, that that's Joe Biden. And this administration from will you attack, will you defend Taiwan if China attacks. Yes. Administration says, no, we won't. Yes, we will.

No, we won't. If that was the Trump administration and Pompeo was contradicting the president, they would have an aneurysm, a collective aneurysm. All the press's head would explode. It's true. Pompeo said there will be swift and decisive action if we're attacked and we're attacked.

And there's not swift and decisive action, there would be a lot of stories about how Trump is weak. And so I agree with you. And we often have to look through the prism of what it would be like if another administration was in power. But You know, so far he's getting the benefit of the doubt, largely from the media. And, you know, we'll see what happens today.

All right, we'll find out.

So at 12 o'clock, we're probably going to get a speaker. I'm being optimistic. 12:30, we'll get that press conference. We know the Trump trial is taking place in New York City. Michael Cohen's back on the stand.

A lot going on. Brett, what's been the response been when you sit down and talk about the book to people? Like, for example, I have very learned people when I come up and do these history books that I never knew that. Do you get a lot of people s saying, I never knew that? Yes.

And, you know, There are people that I really respect as far as history. I did a podcast with Dr. Ben Carson, who knows more about Washington and that time than a lot of people. And he said that to me, and I commend that podcast. And then I sat down for an hour with Newt Gingrich.

And you talk about somebody who knows history. Newt Gingrich knows history. And so we had this great conversation back and forth. And there are nuggets here, and you know how that works, that really provide a lot of detail of that time. And sometimes you just don't get them other places.

So as more and more people read the book, I think that there are more and more people who say, wow, not only did I read it really fast. It's not like a slog to get through a history book, just like yours. They're very readable, but it's something that you really come out of there and say, wow, I have a better perspective of kind of being in the room and feeling what it was like. It's so interesting. It's that they knew they were making history.

They, Madison, knew, I'm writing everything down. I'm writing down the objections. I'm writing down what were the points of agreement. What ideas of mine would kick to the curb? Almost that they knew they were forming this great nation.

I just want to give you a final thought on that. Yeah, it was a historic moment. There was a lot of dissent, a lot, but they knew they had to get it across the finish line. And the only way they could do that is with the guidance and kind of somber overview of George Washington. And he is the link here, and we kind of show that throughout the book.

And is it true at the end Matt Gates decides Washington is not right for the job? No. It isn't. The revolutionary Matt Gates is not around as of yet. Oh, I didn't know that.

I got to correct that. I apologize. Brett Baer, pick it up. To rescue the Constitution. Brett, you're the best.

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But we have a lot of big priorities ahead of us right now. The world is on fire. We stand with our ally, Israel. But he's not going to stand with Ukraine, and that is Mike Johnson, who I really like. And he's got a great background.

And primarily, it's great because he started in radio. And then he went on. He's an evangelical Christian. I'm not sure how that pays, but it's certainly his beliefs. And then he uh represented Trump at an impeachment trial and thought Trump would really won the election.

He went to bat for that, which will turn off a lot of Democrats. I get it. But it will not turn off Donald Trump, which is key. Donald Trump will be in court today. His caravan is leaving Trump Tower and is heading down to court today.

It's interesting at all the stuff that he has gone to. If he didn't have to go, why is he going? He also went after Mark Meadows today. He went after Michael Cohen again. He went after Jenna Ellis.

All these people took plea deals and might be testifying against him. We'll see where it goes. I personally look at what Catherine Herrod said on CBS, which is don't believe the ABC deal and what he agreed to.

So maybe the president should keep his powder dry. Maybe Meadows not flipping. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. I mean, this is beyond frustration.

There are no differences to any Republican in this room, I mean, they pale in comparison to progressives. Certainly to the terrace.

So we need to Get our act together, as we say in the Army, get our head out of our rear. And um Move forward. We're the only entity. in Washington. That is going to push the Biden administration to do the right thing on Iran.

That stood on the debacle that was Afghanistan, that is providing oversight. Uh and that's what our voters expect us to do. Michael Waltz is so frustrated. Michael McCall, same thing. People just want to get things done.

Mike Gallagher, a lot of mics. But it looks like we could have a speaker today. Rich Lowry wrote about that. It's like we've given up on governing. It's just, hey, well, just do your own thing.

Let's not do mu do the job, which do which takes compromise. And I just saw a poll that most Republicans don't want their representative to compromise. Rich Lowry, editor of National Review, joins us now. Rich, I wanted to play that sound vibe because it kind of reflects what your column said. It's frustrating, isn't it?

Yeah.

So this is totally unnecessary. It looks like it may be at an end here. We'll see. But they may have finally settled on the guy who doesn't have a lot of friends but doesn't have enemies, which is kind of the key, the last part is the key factor here. No one hates Mike Johnson.

No one thinks Mike Johnson's been knifing them when they've been trying to get the speakership.

So maybe they finally settle on him, which is a good thing, because my attitude all along has been just settle on someone. You know, you don't have a lot of power as the Speaker of the House in these circumstances with a narrow majority and you don't have the Senate, you don't have the White House. Just put in someone there so you can continue your business. And it may be that we're finally there after all this unnecessary drama. To me, it's a mix of being a ref and being a coach.

You got to push people. This is where we should go. This is where we should go. And then you've got to be a ref. You've got to decide, hey, guys, I got some moderates over here.

We'll never vote for conservatives. We're going to lose everything if you don't come over a little bit. Hey, moderates, we don't want to lose the majority.

So it's almost as if you're coaxing people and hurting them. I don't necessarily know what Mike McCarthy thinks. I really I didn't know what John Boehner thinks. I know R you know, they're Republican, Conservatives, but I'm not saying the resulting legislation that necessarily reflected their values, because you have to give and you have another body to go with, and you've got a president that's got to sign off on it. I want you to hear what Mike Gallagher said, because this also is right up your alley, cut thirty-three.

My theory is uh this is the product of decades of institutional neglect.

So if you have people that feel no loyalty to an institution like Congress because it's weak, they've gone from being the most powerful branch of government to the weakest, and they're not going to abide by the rules of conference or the norms of congressional behavior. You agree? Yeah, I think that that nails it exactly. You have a lot of folks, it's all about their social media presence, it's all about their brand, it's all about their cable hits, rather than the institution and being formed by the institution and shaped by the institution and putting the institution above yourself. We just don't do that anymore anywhere in this country pretty much.

And it's certainly been true of Congress, and it's been on display here. You know, not among everyone, but under for a crucial minority of Republicans, you know, have a lot of sway because the majority is so slender. It's empowered them and that's you know, they they set it off. And then we have this sort of tribal warfare, you know, where the McCarthy people don't like trust the Scalese people, so they're going to knife the Scalise people, and the Scalese people are mad that Jordan's next in line after he didn't get it, and then the Jordan people can't buy the Emmer people. And again, finally, you know, Mike Johnson may just be outside of that kind of circle of conflict, which may be the reason he gets it.

Right. Just so you know, in terms of the actual numbers, the numbers are there was 19 or 20 that missed the vote yesterday. Three voted present. But the way they were acting is if they already got him across the line. They're not going to be happy that Mike Johnson was against the election, was looking to overturn the election.

They're not going to be happy that he was one of Donald Trump's lawyers during impeachment, but Trump will be. And he thinks he's got an ally, really smart guy. He's smart enough to get into radio, which he was once a radio host.

So we'll see where we go and see if we can get something done. I do think, Rich, tell me if I'm wrong. Brett kind of agrees with me, or he was just intimidated. I do think by next year, this will not be that big of a story. When you're voting for people in purple districts, you'll be like, well, I don't want that speaker chaos.

I don't think it'll be, especially if you just see what's been happening while this was happening. Yeah, m most people this has made zero impression on them. It's loomed really large for us. You know, we follow the news really close people really closely. Most people are concerned with their ordinary lives.

And the election next year, it's going to be what it always is. You know, it's going to be economy, it's going to be foreign affairs, it's going to be the b border. And if Trump's a nominee, Democrats o obviously also will make the threat to democracy in January 6th, throw that in there. But this will be a blip even if that. All right, so let's talk about the war in Israel.

They're holding off, it seems, on the ground incursion for hostages. It looks like they're not calling it a ceasefire, but a pause. Is that the right move? I don't know, Brian. This is one of the things I hate it when people say this sometimes because it's punting, but I just don't know enough.

I feel if you could get one hundred hostages out by waiting another two weeks after already waiting two weeks, would you do it? I might. It just depends. What's going on in the Northern Front, what's going on with deterring Iran, how s secure they feel, that if they get sucked into Gaza or go into Gaza, that that Northern Front won't open up. These are all questions that's really hard to know.

from the outside. I just hope and expect that Israel's intention is to to do everything they can to destroy Hamas. And what we're talking about is the details and the scheduling of that.

So it's it's it's I gotta I gotta pun a little bit, I'm just not sure. Right. I mean, how do I sit there? If I'm a family member, I'd want to wait for hostages to get out. But I also know, too, they could be making this more IDF personnel can die.

Because they're able to fortify certain tunnels, put together certain booby traps, and some surprises. And it also bothers me that this was written down. Take hostages to bargain out to get our people back.

So this was destroyed. This is why they took the hostages in the first place.

So that's really frustrating.

So the problem, you know, I want Israel to do everything they can to destroy Hamas. The worry I have is, you know, the leadership of Hamas is not sitting in Gaza City, right? They're somewhere in Qatar in a nice hotel.

So you can do a months-long, grinding, painful campaign, costly and blood and treasure, and they're still in that hotel. And you say, okay, we've destroyed Hamas. They're going to never rule Gaza again. And even if you can make that stick, it's just the next thing. Whatever entity rules Gaza will be as hostile to Israel as Hamas is and just be operating under another name.

So that's all to say. I just think this is an enduring problem. There's no ready answer to it. But Israel needs to respond strongly just for its own security and then for its own, just to serve its own purpose. Israel was founded.

So, Jews could go someplace and not suffer the sort of pogroms they did in Central and Eastern Europe. And here they go, you have a pogrom in Israel. That really strikes at the very heart of the purpose, the meaning of Israel. And that's why there's been one of the reasons there's been such a strong reaction in Israel, besides just the barbaric nature of the attack and why they just can't, you know, they might wait a while, but they're not going to wait forever and they shouldn't. The security was such an epic fail, and the horrific carnage was so beyond comprehension.

Israel must be shaken to the core that they were even that vulnerable.

Now we find out some of the things they were doing, training just over the border, not being picked up. They were not looking because they were focused more on the West Bank. That could have been it. Also, hard lines. They were not using cell phones.

They were using hardlines, 1970s phones.

So they weren't able to tap into it unless they were doing it the old-fashioned way. You actually put a bug in the phone, but Israel wasn't quite aware. Of that when they plotted and planned and they rehearsed.

So now what's getting under my skin. Is the lack of response knowing that we're getting hit so often in Iraq and in Syria and our bases? Two dozen American service members injured in attacks in Iraq over in Syria. We have not answered yet. We had 24 U.S.

members who were injured by the attacks. Most are okay, back on duty. They didn't tell us that. They said one guy had a heart attack in Syria because of the surprise nature of it. But now we find out it's much more serious and much more consistent.

And these are Iranian-backed proxies.

So how long can we not hit back? Yeah, I mean th this is this is the uh the source of the problem. You finally had Biden in that Oval Office address at least mentioning Iran. Otherwise I hadn't figured at all when it's really the the root and the source of of the problem. And this is you know when when Trump says, oh, you know, they didn't do this on my watch, He's right.

And one reason was he he took out Selemani, right? There was that attack, I don't know whether it was on the air base. They showed him the video. He was pissed off. They gave him the options.

They put that one on there just to have an extreme option that make other stuff look more reasonable. And he's like, Yeah, I'll do that. And that set a huge signal to the Iranian regime and others who would kill Americans. And we've lost that deterrent power. And I think you need to find some way to hurt Iran and make them pay for this.

The other thing, Rich, is I believe that he's got way too much influence with the Israeli government, who knows that we're reloading the Iron Dome and providing a lot of armaments.

So they're not really going to thumb their nose at us. I do not want the President of the United States in my War Council meeting. I also don't want them to give me a three-star general to look over my shoulder, Marine General. I think that is totally wrong. They understand this region.

They know how to fight. They had an intelligence failure. No question. Help them seal that up. Support them.

Don't take over. Derek Van Orden, the Navy SEAL, now Congressman, is in Tel Aviv, said this yesterday, cut six. The Biden administration's blatant incompetence has got us where we're at. Unfortunately, Secretary Blinken may have no short-term memory because over 30 Americans have already been killed in Israel. At least 20 Americans are being held hostage by Iran's proxies right now.

So I don't have a tremendous amount of confidence in the Biden administration to be able to handle this incredible crisis as it's unfolding.

So he knows it from the American standpoint. He's been briefed. Then he goes over to Tel Aviv, talks to them. They also know he's got this military background, and he'll say it. You know, he liked Biden's speech a couple of, you know, last week, but he's blown away by what he thinks is incompetence.

Do you get that from your sources?

Well, I mean, there's certainly weakness, right? I mean, clearly, the pullout from Afghanistan, which is weak and incompetent, has been the predicate for a lot of what we've seen. And this was, you know, there hasn't been much focus on this, obviously. This was a huge intelligence failure on our part as well, right? We're supposed to have the best intelligence service in in the world, and we're paying a lot of attention to this.

We didn't pick it up either. And that's on us.

So there'll be a lot of after action in Israel about how they missed it, but we also also should be thinking about how we missed it as well. And then there's, you know, I don't know whether it's not competent so much, it's just an unwillingness to grasp the nettle and make the intellectual concession that, yes, Iran is behind this, which leads you to, okay, well, what are you going to do to Iran? Are you just going to take it and talk to Israel about how they're taking on one of the proxies, Hamas, or are you going to take the problem on at its root? At the very least, you pulverize the whole militia. Destroy the whole militia.

And there's and as Lindsey Graham may have been a little bit too aggressive, but Reagan uh targeted these uh these uh overseas oil wells. You know, so listen, you bl they're in the ocean, you blow them up, it's go, we know exactly where you are, we know exactly what you're up to, you better not. Yeah, so Iran has cards to play, most importantly, Hezbollah and all those rockets. But ultimately, in a war with the United States, they're getting pulverized. They'd get destroyed, and they know that.

So if you do something to illustrate to them you're willing to hit them and there's more to come if they're not at least a little more cautious, that's a really important message. Trump sent it with the Soleimani hit, and this administration hasn't sent it, and there's probably no hope of it sending it. Lastly, Rich, you've seen a lot of things, but I've never seen organized protests for an enemy, which are the Hamas terrorists and Palestinians in many respects. And yet there's going to be another massive demonstration for them today in New York City. There's going to be walkouts at Hunter College, Cooney Graduate Center, New York University, Columbia, City College.

You get the idea, all walking out to support the Palestinian cause. Do you believe this? How does this happen?

Well, it was a 20-year effort by Islamists and anti-Zionists on college campuses in schools, and we've seen the poisonous fruit of it. I mean, unfortunately, it worked where you have a lot of young people who are just incapable of rational thought on this issue, who have absorbed all these hateful shibboleths.

So you have the same people on college campuses. You know, there's a safe Space for you if Charlie Kirk or Ann Culture shows up at your campus where the whole thing is about avoiding microaggressions and honoring diversity and being sensitive, chanting genocidal sentiments about Israel. And no one seems to doesn't occur to anyone that is a stark contradiction because all that woke stuff, it wasn't neutral, right? It wasn't really meant to apply to everyone. It was meant to be a way to attack and silence one side.

And that's why none of the woke sensitivities apply to people chanting for Israel, for the Jewish state to be destroyed and wiped from the earth. I just don't understand it. I'm embarrassed by it. I'm unnerved by it. And it's got to stop.

Rich Lowry, thanks so much. International Review, appreciate it. Talk soon. All right. When we come back, I'll take your calls: 1-8-6-6-408-7669.

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There's a variety of actions that we can take. Certainly, first of all, of course, we're increasing the force protection very substantially, rushing additional air and ballistic missile defenses and so forth out there. But I think at some point, if this continues, what we're seeing being done by the Iranian-supported Shia militia in Iraq, that there will have to be a response to Iran, not to those militias. I know David Petraeus is reluctant to criticize this administration. I'm not sure why.

He wants to be apolitical and doesn't want to be identified with the party. That could be it. But if he says we're going to have to, but in two weeks when they don't, Will you criticize? You have to criticize. General Jack Keene came back and his voice was almost cracking yesterday because he could not believe how many unanswered attacks have taken place on our guys.

When you sign up in the military, you know, we give $900 billion a year to the military. You have to make us proud. You're not going to be perfect, but you can make us proud. And you have the right to stick up for yourself. But now we have an administration that's allowed their people to get shelled in their bases in hotspots, to say the least, Syria and Iraq.

And they can't answer back and do a preemptive strike. That's unfair to the families. And by the way, just to paraphrase the statement that just came across, even though Qatar is the place where the foreign minister of Iran went and met the leader of Hamas on Saturday, even though right now Hamas headquarters in Qatar, they have just gotten saluted and praised from Israel by saying that they're key brokers in getting the hostages out. Wow. I don't know if you could play both ends of it, but Israel knows the neighborhood.

They felt secure enough to do that. Uh so here's the deal. We got to get the hostages out. But at the same time, the public policy The world opinion is changing. Because the devastation on Qatar excuse me on Gaza is so great right now.

Now people are saying, oh, these kids are dying. Why are they doing this? It's disproportionate. They didn't understand that Hamas is solely responsible. It was their hits and hiding behind civilians, building facilities in the basements of hospitals and in mosques that got us here.

And in turn, Iran has taken our warnings. They fully support all the enemies of Israel, has taken shots at us, almost daring us to hit back. And all we're worried about is a wider war. How does that sound familiar?

Okay. How about Ukraine? You guys know you're going to be out in three days. I gave you some weapons and some training. You're going to lose.

Oh, you're not going to lose. Zelensky does want to fight. He doesn't want to ride out of the country.

Okay. We'll get you some tanks.

Okay, fine. 31 in September. All right, you're not going to get Patriots. We'll give you Patriots. You're not going to get high Mars.

You're going to give you high Mars. We don't want to make this a wider war. We don't want to instigate Russia. They got nukes. All the things he said he wanted to get to escalate the war, we end up giving it to him.

Now we give him attackums. And now we got to give him permission to hit weapons depots in Ukraine in there. But we don't want to make a water war. That's Joe Biden. We don't want to make a water war.

People are dying. as you try to not make it a water war on our side. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Killmead. Hi, everyone.

Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. I'm at 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. We got protests happening. A lot going on this morning. I mean, you got the Trump trial just got underway.

The former president just spoke. Michael Cohen will be in there. That'll be dramatic. You have the ongoing situation in Israel where we could be looking at a pause for hostages. That'll be dramatic.

The UN over there, where the general secretary is making statements equating the Palestinian situation with the carnage that happened to the Israeli people. And now you're going to have a massive protest at local colleges from Hunter to NYU to Columbia to City College. Uh I pretty much said about six or seven local colleges. They're all gonna mar and new school, they're gonna march in support of the Palestinian movement.

So there'll be Hamas flags there. Great. You're gonna march in for a movement about people that just came and massacred 1,400 1400 civilians. Two hundred and 99 Israeli military Caught by surprise, sadly. Those are the people you're going to salute today.

What has happened to this country? Before we get to Michael Rubin and then a little bit at the bottom of the arrow, Emily Austin, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Democracy is messy sometimes, but it is our system. This conference that you see, this House Republican majority, is united. Michael Johnson, could you be the next Speaker of the House?

I've always said fourth, maybe four times is the charm. Kevin McCarthy, undeservedly ousted. Emmer, Jordan, Scalise, Fail. It looks like Johnson's got the votes. We'll find out at noon.

Number two. But I think at some point, if this continues, what we're seeing being done by the Iranian-supported Shia militia in Iraq, that there will have to be a response to Iran, not to those militias. You would think Iran surrogates attacks on U.S. forces in greater number and in greater casualties than we were told. Shockingly, we do not hit back.

Why does this president not understand that weakness only brings in more attacks? Number one. The urban warfare situation they're going to find themselves in is going to be very violent and very bloody.

But the longer that you delay, it just allows your adversary to continue to prepare and to dig in. And Israel runs the risk of losing its political support if it lets this go for too long. Israel at war, but could they be open to a pause for hostages? While it's great for innocent captives, how does it play on the world stage? And what about Hamas and their blood-soaked hands?

Will they get away with it?

Meanwhile, calls for UN Secretary to resign as he tries to justify the Hamas attacks. And that's we'll begin with Michael Rubin, Senior Fellow with the American Enterprise Institute, where he specializes in Iran, Turkey, and the broader Middle East. Michael, welcome back. Would you support a pause right now? I would not support a pause.

Every time we've seen a pause, for example, in 1996 with the Israel-Hezbollah war and then with the Hezbollah war 10 years later, it wasn't used for humanitarian gain. It was used to rearm. And the last thing you want to do is give these terrorists time to construct their booby traps or to rearm the way that they openly say they want to. I'm with you, but they do say that we've killed Israel has killed 22 hostages by their bombing. I don't believe anything Hamas says, but is there a risk of hostages just dying because Israel waits, doesn't wait?

Unfortunately, Brian, there is a risk that hostages will be killed in this. The question that we need to ask, however, is whether the lives of four million Israelis are offset by the lives of the two hundred or so hostages. The United States, Israel and others who have citizens who are held captive by Hamas, We'll do everything possible to identify their locations and to rescue them. But we have to look at the fact that this is open war at this point and that the key prerogative needs to be to eliminate Hamas completely.

So right now, how would you rate from what you know and from the people you know the aerial campaign so far? What we've seen with the bombings about four hundred a day. From what I understand, the aerial bombardment is serving its purpose. That said, we also know from the released hostages that there's a quote spider web of tunnels underneath Gaza. They escaped Israel's intelligence.

It's important that those be taken in. There's got to be a ground campaign as well.

So, how long do you think it'll take? What are they telling you? It could happen any moment. The problem right now is the United States is trying not to deter Iran, but to deter Israel. Frankly, that's also why I think that the United States has sent two carrier strike groups to the region.

It has nothing to do with aiding Israel. It has everything to do with preventing Israel from launching a surprise attack against the so-called head of the snake, which is located inside the Islamic Republic of Iraq.

So get this statement from an Israeli official. Chazi Khan Gabi, I'm sure I didn't say his name great but here's what he said. I'm pleased to say that Qatar is becoming an essential party and stakeholder in the facilitation of humanitarian solutions. Really? The cutter who houses the head the heads of Hamas is getting saluted?

Qatar has perfected the art of being the arsonist who gets paid for joining the volunteer firefighting brigade after the fact. We've got to break this dynamic. The fact that the United States has an air base in Qatar shouldn't mean that it has a get out of jail free card. Unfortunately, both the Israelis to some extent and the Americans most certainly have confused the forest for the trees. They don't understand that the key prerogative needs to be to uproot terrorism, not to maintain channels with it.

I wanted to hear this statement, or our audience hear this statement from the UN Secretary General Antonio Gutierrez on this. After this meet this meeting was laid out yesterday, hey, let's blame Israel for this, Quray. It is important to also recognize the attacks by Amaz did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian people have been subjected to fifty six years of suffocating occupation. They have seen their lands steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence.

Their economy is stifled. their people displaced and their homes demolished. Their hopes for a political solution to their plight have been vanishing. But the grievances of the Palestinian people cannot justify the appalling attacks by Hamas.

So he's out there saying, well, what do you want? What do you want these people to do? They've been denied a homeland for 56 years. What's your reaction to that?

Well, he most certainly should resign. What he has vocalized is the art of blaming the victim. It's sort of blaming the wife for being beaten in an abusive relationship. He also simply doesn't understand international law. Gaza has not been occupied since 2005.

Hamas staged a coup in 2007 to take over control. The UN continued to work with them and to fund them. He also simply doesn't understand international law in another way. U the laws of war. do not apply equally.

You have to abide by certain principles. For example, wearing uniforms, not hiding behind civilians and so forth. If you violate those, you don't get the Geneva Conventions applied to you. And if you have a UN bureaucrat like Guterres, a former Portuguese socialist, saying that they should be applied universally, what you're actually doing is incentivizing terrorists to run around in civilian clothes, to hide in schools and hospitals and ambulances. It's a formula for chaos.

He really needs to learn that his job is to administer the United Nations, not to be some sort of spokesman with any moral authority. Yeah, I want you to hear what Eli Cohen said, Israel's Minister for Foreign Affairs, Cut Ten. As we meet here today, Jan Babies. Children. I'll held in Gaza.

They are victims of evil. These kids witness horror which cannot be described. by word. Mr Secretary General. In what world do you live?

Sure. Definitely, this is not Our world. Are they just used to this type of abuse at the UN at this point? I think they are. The United Nations has, I mean, completely lost its founding principles.

Remember, the United Nations Refugee Works Association, which was meant to provide assistance to the Palestinians, was meant to fold up shop in 1951 by its own bylaws and reports. It's basically become a means to continue the conflict. If you took the same definition of refugee that the United Nations applies exclusively to Palestinians and applied it to the partition of India in 1947, we'd have more than 300 million refugees in South Asia. And yet we don't because people understand you can't make these you can't keep these infections open. At the same time, what really surprises me and what the UN doesn't realize and what makes Hamas in many ways even more Worse in certain ways than even the Nazi Germans is the Nazis tried to hide their atrocity.

They tried to keep what they were doing at the concentration camps and to do secret. We see that Hamas is doing quite the opposite and is trying to broadcast it to the world. That just shows you how morally askew not only Hamas and U.S. university campuses, but the United Nations have become.

So we have now found out there's been attacks at our bases in Iraq and Syria and our ships off the coast of Yemen. And here's what John Kirby says we should do: cut 14. We remain deeply concerned by the potential for future attacks on our troops. As you're right, we've seen, and I'm guesstimating here, but it's about a dozen over the last several days. And as a result, tragically, one A US contractor died as a result of a heart attack from sheltering.

Uh so It's uh Potentially a dangerous environment, and we're taking it very, very seriously. Right. Dangerous. They will act at a time of our choosing. When are they going to choose?

There's been 90 unanswered attacks in the region. How important, Michael Rubin, is it to answer? Weakness is contagious. You can't have a situation where you're putting terrorist groups. And militias on double secret probation.

I mean, to go back to quote animal house. The fact of the matter is, Osama bin Laden, to whom a lot of these terrorist groups pay allegiance. Said that when you have a strong horse and you have a weak horse, it's natural to associate yourself with the strong horse. The Biden administration is showing itself to be a hobbled pony.

Well said. Michael Rubin, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you, Brian. All right.

Michael Rubin, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. It is maddening what's happening. And right now, he is not for the pause. I am not either. I understand I don't have a relative down there, but I also think there's a chance if you go in, there's a better chance of getting them out than if you just wait out and wait for the Qataris to come in and decide who should come and who should stay.

All right, when we come back, I'll take your calls: 1-866-408-7669. And then we'll have Emily Austin in to talk about it from the millennial perspective. What is it like to be Jewish right now in New York when so many are actually targeting them instead of supporting them? Brian Kilmicho. Giving you everything you need to know.

You're with Brian Kilmead. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. There is a very clear anti-Israel bias at the United Nations. This is nothing new.

This crazy double standard. What the UN Secretary General said that this Hamas attack, the massacre, of October 7th didn't come in a vacuum. That is mind boggling. Can you imagine the UN Secretary General saying such a terrible sentence after the nine eleven attack, that the nine eleven attack didn't come in a vacuum? This is insane.

This is insanity. The civilized world must stand with Israel in its war against terrorism. The message that a UN Secretary General must send out is that terrorism is a dead end. Tal Heinrich weighed in. She's a spokesperson for Benjamin Eton Yahweh, the Prime Minister of Israel.

And moments ago, the Secretary General of the United Nations tried to clean up his comments. And if you listened ten minutes ago, I played them. But essentially, he says it doesn't happen in a vacuum. Those attacks don't happen in a vacuum. When you deny someone homeland and suffocating sanctions, that's what happens.

Well, no one's suffocating you in Gaza. You had the portions of the West Bank were all yours. And basically, you chose to buy into a terror group instead of trying to pave your roads and sell your beaches, make it a tourist attraction right on the beautiful Mediterranean Sea. And make it a place in which aid flew. Instead, we put millions of dollars into there through aid groups.

Write checks to the Palestinian Authority? Where's that money going? You know, the story is that they came out and they put a sewer system together through these pipes, and then they realized that just as they had a sewer system, it was all done, in comes the mosque, they dig it up and use the pipes for rocket-propelled grenades. Unbelievable.

So this is what they chose to do, but I guess it's Israel's fault that they did that. Nikki Haley, for her, a presidential candidate, obviously getting sent to debate in two weeks. She said this cut 11. You know, this is the UN doing what the UN always does. And keep in mind, the rest of the world's going to do this, too.

I have strongly said to Israel that they need to finish them, meaning Hamas, but I also said to the world, and we need to remember this, is that we all support Israel because they were hit. But we have to remember we also have to support them when they hit back. And you're going to see when Israel starts to make moves, everybody's going to condemn them. And they will, and they've already had it. But now, when they make big-time moves, it's going to get even worse.

Look, I know there are children in there. What choice do they have? Their parents are staying there. I also see a lot of quotes from these Palestinians who say, Yeah, I'm not moving. I live in the north.

I'm staying in the north. They're not going to tell me what to do.

Okay, good. Because Hamas is also there, and their leadership is there, responsible for the death of 1,400, if not more. And they're still trying to kill Israelis. As you see, they try to do it through the ocean, and they're still sending daily rockets arbitrarily into cities.

So it's going to be rough. That's what happens in the middle of a war that you start. That the people who represent you start. Every civilian that dies is Hamas's, is on Hamas's head, which they don't care about. Do you know they they found an intercept and they played it the other day for uh disbelieving media where they found Hamas, an intercept of a Hamas fighter uh saying that how proud they were as they called home to say, Mom, I killed uh Jews.

Your father's gonna be so proud. Really? So, this is the interest. This is the mindset. It's not like, well, you know, when when you find out there's a murderer in your family, you basically disown them and try to work with cops to apprehend them, usually.

But not in this situation. And that's what. The neighborhood Israel lives in. That's why I find it so hard to believe that people Or trying to equate what Israel's doing to what the Palestinians are experiencing.

So the Israeli Ambassador to the UN got up and said this after the General Secretary's comments cut nine. The UN is failing, and you, Mr. Secretary General, have lost all morality and impartiality. When you say those terrible words that these Heinous attacks did not happen in a vacuum. You are tolerating terrorism.

I think that the Secretary General must resign. Yeah, uh and but he's not. And because most people agree with him. And we didn't ask for him to resign. That also doesn't help.

But we'll see because you have Russia who's indifferent, China that used to be indifferent, but now is calling for a ceasefire. Anybody, by the way, who calls for a ceasefire, that's anti Israel. Because you you don't get to take this type of loss Have justified reaction. And before the reaction can really start, call for a ceasefire and act like you're the person of peace. No, you're inviting the next attack, at which time you'll quickly call for a ceasefire.

When we come back, we'll talk about that from the American perspective because today. In about 90 minutes, this city is going to be flooded at NYU, at Columbia University, at Hunter, and I'm maybe in a city near you where you're at. I happen to be located here in New York City with pro-Palestinian protests. They're staging a huge walkout. Can you imagine paying $85,000, or in the case of NYU, if you live there, $92,000 a year?

I'm going to miss school today to go march for terrorists. Yes, I want more babies killed. I'd like to see more women raped. I'd like to see more hostages of 85-year-olds, 85-year-olds. kept in tunnels to wither and die.

Those are the causes I want to fight for. What has happened? This is the Brian Kill Me Chill.

So glad you're here. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. I'm I'm honestly scared to share that on campus, and that's really, really upsetting because, especially at a school like NYU, where They talk about inclusion. They talk about sharing your identity.

But that stops at Jewish and that stops at Israeli. Uh that was uh what was that from, Eric? That was a Jewish student from NYU. Today's going to be a massive protest, I understand, at Washington Square Park. Uh, we'll see what happens.

We probably have some crews down there at Cover Columbia, same thing at the new school, all for the Palestinian cause. Emily Austin doesn't understand it, as nor do I. She's a host of uh Hoop Chat, big-time sports reporter, but also a member of the advisory board for uh, is it case pack? Case pack, yeah.

So, how would you describe case pack, Emily? It's combat anti-Semitism, but supporting politicians who support Israel and support, of course, condemning anti-Semitism. Right. And do you find yourself a minority in New York City these days where you thought you were maybe a majority? Yeah, you know what it is?

It's like, I'm not the Jew that rubs it in your face, shoving it down your throat, posting about it. Like, I'm just living the best version of myself, and just doing that seems to be pissing everyone off nowadays. What do you think about that statement you just heard from NYU? I feel so bad for her. I really do because it's like death's.

Cause outrage as it should. But it's like it's an exception when it comes to Israel and the Jewish people. And I don't know why that is. Is it because they think w we're like never allowed to be the victims, we're never allowed to be oppressed? And nobody by any means should live in that victim mentality.

But if people are getting massacred on October 7th, why has it been so hard for people to just come out and say it was wrong? Instead of causing protests, Israel hasn't even retaliated yet. Imagine what's going to happen when they decide to do an invasion and get our 200 hostages back. This is pre-retaliation, and this is the result. See, I think what's underappreciated is people think the Atashi is going to die if you go in.

Maybe that's the best chance to save them. Yeah.

I think the reason that they're delaying the invasion is because they want the hostages back safely, but I don't know. I don't know how long this is gonna go on for.

So you are a Gen Z Gen Z.

Okay. Most of those Gen Zers are going to be protesting in New York City for Palestinians slash Hamas today. I'm stunned by that. Yeah, uh, it's as if they were promoting protesting for al-Qaeda. Yeah, literally.

That's how I view it.

So, I want to differentiate something. I told this yesterday to a guest on Pierce Morgan. If Palestinians were smart, divorce yourself from Hamas because Hamas is a terrorist organization declared by the United States as of 2006.

So, anyone defending Hamas in my book is an accomplice to murder. That's just my opinion. And now, it's one thing if you want to free the Palestinian movement. I'm pro-Palestine too. I believe the Palestinians should be freed from their terrorist organization Hamas as their government.

Free Palestine, but don't forget to add the words from Hamas when you're chanting that.

So I will protest with you, but I'm going to add those extra two words. Don't you think a two-state solution is now dead?

Now, I think it's off the table. Listen, that's how Israel began. It began with the United Nations partition plan in 1948. We had the two-state solution, and the Arab League declared war on it. You know, this, this.

And the Palestinians said, don't bother, I'm not taking it. No, they said, we'll just kill all of you and take the land. Literally, that's what happened. It sounds almost comedic, but that's the reality of it. And the narrative that this is about land is BS because this goes back already to 1929 in Hevron.

They massacred 57 Jews, there was no Israel at the time.

Okay, National Jihad Day last Friday. I'm in Manhattan scared for my life. What does me being in New York have to do with the Israeli conflict? Why am I afraid for my life? Why are jihads attacking last Friday outside of Israel?

The land is a convenient excuse to justify murder. Right. And what we're seeing right now is possibly a pause. Would you be for a pause? Like a ceasefire?

No, a pause to get some hostages out. I mean, is that considered a pause? They're still going to invade. There's still going to be many casualties. I'm sure they're not going to be like, hey, take them.

Like, you know what's been pissing me off I wanted to talk about They released two hostages, and one of the women, Who they released as an elderly woman, and she's like, They gave us tea, they treated us nicely, they only beat us with sticks. And they're like, Wow, guys, see, they're freedom fighters, they're not murderers, ignoring the entire message. They only beat us with sticks. No, no, but that's not even the worst part. Her husband's still being held captive.

Imagine what they'll do to him if she actually exposed the realities of what they did. And the world is a problem. 85 years old. Yeah.

And the world's apload and come up for letting her go. Right. How'd she get there? I want you to hear what Lee Zeldon said last night, cut 23. It's been building for a while on these college campuses.

Students for Justice of Palestine were funding these efforts that might appear organic, but they weren't. They've infiltrated administration, faculty, student body. You bust your butt during school to get the grades and the extracurriculars to get accepted into Harvard University. And you pay all of that money to have Bill de Blasio and Lori Lightfoot teaching you in class. Maybe you should save your money and pursue some of these other places of higher education where there's a core moral compass that guides the university, that guides the curriculum, that guides the faculty.

And Lee Zelda went on to say, you know, he is Jewish. He said, I never he said in his entire life, including through the military, he never experienced anti-Semitism. And he's astounded as a sitting was a former sitting member of Congress and seven points from being the next governor what he's witnessing. But you are are you I would not say you're the one of the few that is not astounded by it because I guess you saw it. I saw among your peers.

Yeah.

I mean, listen, my first experience of anti-Semitism, I grew up in a little bubble in Long Island and I was always like surrounded by Hewlett Harbor.

So it's like mo mostly Russian Jews. I'm not a Russian Jew, but I'm still Jewish. And I went to public school and everyone was cool. Like, you know, it's Long Island, it's a bubble. I decide to run for Miss New York when I'm 17 or Miss T New York, and I lost.

And the person comes up to me like a fan, and he's like, You lost because you look like a damn Jew. And I'm wearing my Star of David.

Now, first of all, what does a Jew look like, according to you? I don't have horns. Like, what does that mean? Was it the first time you heard anything like that? Ever.

And I started laughing. Because I I don't know. I didn't think someone would actually say something anti-Semitic. And I was like, ha, yeah, right. Like, you're right.

Because I didn't actually think it was an attack towards me. And he goes, And she looks like a Nazi Aryan. And then I was like, whoa, okay, now that's a Nazi reference. That's not cool. And my dad was like, I'm surprised he didn't not come out.

But I didn't even know what anti-Semitism was. I never experienced it. And from that day on, As I got more into the public eye, especially when I started sports, I understood that the misconception of what First and foremost, a Jew is than what an Israeli is. They look at us like we're this different species, like it's us versus them.

So, yeah, I mean, I. I saw it coming because, like I said, I know this isn't about land. This is a battle to exterminate the Jews. And they like to call genocide, not even knowing what genocide means. They want a genocide of the Jewish people in the Hamas Charter.

And you've seen this week, people support Hamas.

So they are literally saying we support killing the Jews. What about social media? Do you think that plays into it? Do you think it makes it easier to have these extreme views and also maybe be brainwashed? 100%.

And people this week I've been arguing with people on our team, if you'd call it Zionists, about they're saying, why are you wasting your time on social media? You're not making a difference. Run for office. Do something. And I'm like, I'm 22.

I can't, but I will. And that's where they're wrong. I'd like to. I think we need rational minded people in office and not Like the fact that Elon Omar is in Congress, anyone could do it. I'm sorry.

My younger sister could go do it. She's 15. She'll do a better job. Right, well, at some point. The question is, would she marry your brother in order to come here?

No, she wouldn't. That's the problem because she did. It seems. Emily Austin's here, giving us an idea of what it's like right now in New York City where they were just texting me today saying, Would you be available at all to go to any of these colleges? Unfortunately, I'm not because this thing is going to get a little bit out of control.

Do you project violence today? Because a lot of people are like you, pretty angry that these Palestinian protests are going to take place. I feel bad for the police. I feel bad for the police. There are about 4,000 cops down in New York City, and they're going to have to.

And I'm sure people listening around the country are saying, well, it's going to happen in my city, too.

So I'm not saying it's only in New York. They're going to have to be. They're going to have to be the human barriers. Yeah, I feel very bad for the cops this week, and I'm so thankful because they really are trying their best to keep everyone safe. Unfortunately, every time we've seen a Palestinian resistance movement, especially in cities like Manhattan, it's very likely that there is a Jew being beaten nearly to death.

And that's just the reality of it. And on college campuses, we spoke about this on Gutfeld. There are no consequences for actions anymore.

So they will do something vile and they will most likely get away with it.

So of course, why not? If there's no consequences, they'll get violent and they are calling for the violence. They're not even trying to mask it at all. They are saying, kill the Zionists, gas the Jews. These are things that are coming out of their mouths.

So we can definitely expect violence. But here's what I'm heartened by. I mean, I was talking to Ambassador Friedman today, former U.S. Ambassador to Israel under Trump. And he said, I went to Columbia and I couldn't be more embarrassed.

And then, you know, they called up a fundraiser this weekend, or was it maybe even tonight or tomorrow night? There was a fundraiser to raise money for all the rich and powerful to come to New York City. And they called it off. They're postponing the fundraiser as divisions over the war deepen. You have Columbia said we should be having space for moral and intellectual conversations about the Israel-Hamas war.

But as the conversation hardens, the choice may affect its finances. Columbia is Giving Day, an annual event in which alumni and donors around the world Are asked to donate was scheduled for today. It was called off.

Now, with no new date, because people are withdrawing their money. Last year, the event raised $30 million in 24 hours.

So that pullback is going to be felt. I hope it does. I hope that Colombia loses actually all of their financing because Colombia, I don't know about when Ambassador Friedman was there, but Colombia has been a safe haven for anti-Semitism. And there's this silly thing called the BDS movement, which is the boycott, divest, and sanction movement. I call it the big distraction strategy movement, which is another excuse for mostly the Palestinians, but a lot of Americans too, to call for the violence against Israelis.

What's interesting is I was in contact with an associate professor at Columbia. You might have seen him online, where he got up and stood up and said, this is insane. He's Jewish. And he says, where did this anti-Semitism come from?

Someone's got to speak up. Where is the Colombia president speaking up? And he got blitz. He got support, but he got blitz. And then he didn't want to come on.

And he was going to come on the show and talk about it. But he did send me a voicemail saying, I appreciate the support. I'm not backing down. And I don't think they can fire him because I think he's got tenure, even though he looks kind of young. But he says, this is not subsiding.

He should make a comment because A, it's cowardly if you don't, and then B, it's hypocritical. You're just a hypocrite because everyone's all about diversity and inclusion, but not when it comes to the Jewish people. It's just so silly. But what about a culture that we're in right now that wants to fight for trans rights, that wants to write for gay rights, let alone women's rights? How do they do in this Islamic extremist society?

How tolerant are they? Did you see Queers for Palestine? No. Yeah, so there's a group called Queers for Palestine. Like, why has not one human being told them, hey, do you know you'd get thrown off a freaking roof in Palestine?

But here's what the Palestinians have done well. They have found a common denominator amongst anyone who looks at themselves as victims.

So that's the BLM movement. That's the LGBTQ movement, because they have faced oppression at some point in their life and they like to use that victim mentality to build bridges and find that common denominator. They'll be like, oh, you experienced racism. The Israelis have been doing that to us for 100 years. Oh, you're Oppressed because they don't want to accept that you're trans.

We've been dealing with that for 75 years. Ukrainian invasion, they're like Russia's invading your land. You don't like that? Palestinians deal with that too. And they build this army of victims and they try to just, you know, unify each other, but half of them don't know in Palestine they'd be publicly executed because they have no tolerance for women's rights, let alone their own human beings' lives as a whole.

So why are you standing with a country that doesn't value China? I'm pretty sure if they really wanted to stand for the Palestinians, Gaza's got some openings now. Yeah.

There's a lot of people heading south.

So there might be some apartments you can get for free.

So go make your stand. No, they can't. Right. They're not going to. Obviously, they wouldn't even go to Tel Aviv where they would be safe and not oppressed.

So it's standing out for you, though. You do. You're in two. One is debt, life, and death. Yeah.

You're actually standing up for it. The other is having fun. Yesterday was the NBA, the start of the NBA season, right? No, I missed it. You know what it is?

So, of course, being in New York, I'm a big Knicks fan, and I was invited to the home opener. I think it's tonight or tomorrow. I can't. I cannot bring myself to go to a game right now. Because I love basketball and I would have the best time ever, but I'd have that guilt.

I'm like, oh my God. My city is burning down with protests. People in Israel are dying, and I'm gonna go sit courtside at a Knicks game meeting popcorn next to, like, I don't know, Tracy Morgan. I I just can't do it right now. It feels a little tasteless, but it is my job and I feel like sometimes we just need to sacrifice for the right thing.

So, like, I've been devoting my platform away from sports for the last two weeks and only on highlighting the tragedies of what's happening in Israel, 'cause I know soon the narrative's gonna flip quick. How's your family handling it? Nobody's handling it great. You know, it's hard. Like, do you have any links to Israel directly?

Absolutely. All my cousins, my great-grandma just passed away, but she was there. My entire mother's side is in Israel and my father's side, too. And I have two cousins in the IDF right now. What do they say?

They're in intelligence, so we don't really discuss much. they are really worried about like cybersecurity, so they don't WhatsApp us a lot. But you know, they're working forty eight hour shifts, thirty six hour shifts, and I don't contact them a lot, but nobody's at ease right now. Like I'll call my aunt, you know, very casually on FaceTime. She's like, Let me call you back, there's no service in a bomb shelter and there are missiles.

And I'm like, oh my God, she's not even like up north or down south. Like, she's smack in the center of Tel Aviv. All right, a few more minutes with Emily Austin at the top of the hour. This really hits home for her, speaking up, talking, and speaking out and ripping some of the people that are going to be protesting and rallying for the Palestinians in Hamas today. Brian, Kill Mead show, don't move.

It's Brian Killmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmead. All right, Emily Austin's here, sports reporter, but host of the Hoop Chat. And by the way, this is not her expertise. That's one of her expertise, but it also is at 22 years old standing up for her generation and letting them know it's good to have an opinion.

It's good to stand up in this case for Israel and maybe get some information before you make a fool of yourself and march across town promoting Hamas.

So, Emily, you want to build on the social media aspect of it. You think, and you've come to the conclusion that most people your age get all their information from TikTok, from social media. They're not watching the news. I don't take offense to that. It bothers me and worries me, but they're not watching.

Yeah, I found that by accident. I was telling everyone, like, on my platform and my Instagram and my friends, like, hey, everyone, watch me on Gutfeld, watch me on Varney, and they're like, We don't have live cable. We don't watch the news. And I go to them, so how do you know what the hell is going on? And they're like, We watch TikTok, we're on Twitter, and we're on Instagram, which completely debunks the fact that social media narratives don't matter.

Because if this is where people get their information from, they do. And I'll tell you a great example. Just the other day, I don't know if you know, I was a judge for Miss Universe this past year, and all the Miss Universe girls follow me, and they all have huge platforms in their own countries. And one of the girls posted something very pro-Palestine, donate money to Gaza. And I'm like, great, handing money to Hamas, amazing.

And When I messaged her, Where did you get this information? she's like, What do you mean? It's been all over Instagram And I go to her, but do you actually know what's happening between Israel and Palestine? She's like, No, but look at all the comments and look at the outrage and look at the celebrities speaking up and I was like, So you took information from celebrities who are also not experts based off of what's sexy in the comments and you made your own posts for people to donate money to a cause you don't know about. She was like, yeah.

So now I had to be on damage control and tell her to take it down and explain to her why I was wrong. But do you know how many times I did that this week with people with huge platforms? For athletes, too. Athletes, Miss Universe girls, comedians, celebrity, anyone, you name it. I'm like on the phone.

I'm like, does anyone know the Celtics owner this guy just posted? Does anyone know the Golden State owner this guy just posted? Or I'm like calling them myself.

So I'm like, hey, Meta World Peace. Let me tell you about this conflict and Fortunately for me, they're willing to listen, which is great. Right. If you got Ron Artes to listen, that would be very unique. He did.

Did he really? Yes. Is he keeping that name, by the way? He is. And that's why he's like, I'm going to save this conflict.

I'm world peace. I'm like, get in there, Meta. Right. One of the most interesting guys. Totally.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's kind of been went to St. John's. Real quick, do you think the Rick Bettino is going to turn St. John's around like this year? No.

It's gonna take years. It's gonna take yeah, it's it's building the team chemistry, it's building that championship mentality. They'll do great, I'm sure, but championship. It's like saying the Knicks will win. Like, I love you guys, wish you would, but I'll be more patient.

Well, I'm not saying your championship, but the Knicks are going to get past the first round this year. I think they'll get away with it. If they stay healthy and then make a quick move somehow in the break, I think we'll make a playoff strong. Right. And the Nets?

Give up on them. Do not give up on them. Just go back to Jersey. They're building up. No, they're not.

Namely three players on high. Are you taping this, Eric? Ben Simmons is going to have a big year. Six for ten. He'll bring the ball up.

He's going to distribute the ball. He wants to play. Do you agree? wants to play, maybe I don't know, I said this yesterday, I think he's too From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead.

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So we have a lot going on. In about 45 minutes, we're going to see a massive walkout of all the local college campuses. In about two hours, an hour and 20 minutes, we're going to see the President of the United States do something he hasn't done in a long time: a joint presser with the Australian President, and he's going to have to take questions. None are going to be about Australia, believe me. And we'll cover some of that.

And we might get a speaker in 50 minutes. I think we're set on Mike Johnson. Big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Democracy is messy sometimes, but it is our system. This conference that you see, this House Republican majority, is united. Fourth might be the charm.

Three weeks after Kevin McCarthy's undeserved ouster, looks like Louisiana's Mike Johnson might have the votes. Might. I'll break it down. Number two. But I think at some point, if this continues, what we're seeing being done by the Iranian-supported Shia militia in Iraq, that there will have to be a response to Iran, not to those militias.

General, I hope the Biden administration listens to you, General Petraeus. Iran surrogates attack U.S. forces in greater number and in greater casualties than we were told. Shockingly, we do not hit back. Why does this president not understand that weakness only breeds more attacks?

Number One. The urban warfare situation they're going to find themselves in is going to be very violent and very bloody.

But the longer that you delay, it just allows your adversary to continue to prepare and to dig in. And Israel runs the risk of losing its political support if it lets this go for too long. Brent Sadler knows taxes. He's a former Pentagon official, Israel at war. But could they be open to a pause, a pause for people, specifically hostages?

While it's great for the innocent captives, how does this play into Hamas's blood-soaked hands? Exactly like they wanted it, and that is indeed the problem.

So I'm torn. I think you're probably torn too. I mean, you see these hostages walk out and you say to yourself, wow, 85 years old, kept under the ground, bruh, grabbed out by the hair, thrown on a motorcycle, gone flying through the open plains into a tunnel in Gaza, forced to be there with our 85-year-old husband, with another. She gets released, her husband left behind, knowing these people are tortured. I don't want to callously say, let's just bomb them.

But I will say that I find it hard to believe that there's a better chance of them living if we wait. than as opposed to go in. Who knows? The way the Israeli intelligence works, don't you think there's more than a little bit of a chance they have an idea where they are, even though this is a network of spider tunnels as described by this escaped hostage?

Meanwhile, Yeah, hostage. You know what, I love this too. One of the Hamas officials called them. Uh detainees. Detainees?

What are you talking about, detainees? Uh, fr were guests. Guests. You grabbed them out of their house, murdered their family. In one case, one guy's arm is blown off, you throw him in the back of a pickup truck, and they're not hostages.

And that's why these people are marching in cities near you, off college campuses, rallying in Times Square. I never, and I've said this. When it came to Sanctuary Cities, I'm stunned. I go, this is the stupidest thing I ever saw in my life, and now they realize it. Not enforcing crime.

Are you crazy? Allowing shoplifters to get away with $1,000? That is nuts. Emptying the prisons. Are you crazy?

Where is the logic? All of this stuff has proven true, which we all knew. You have these policies. All these are going to do is get the criminal mind more active and make the hardworking people of America more victims. Here's more from Brett Sadler.

I'll let him finish his thought. Cut four. No matter how long they take and how much information, the urban warfare situation they're going to find themselves in is going to be very violent and very bloody. But there's a point, a breaking point, at which you get diminishing returns. But the longer that you delay, it just allows your adversary to continue to prepare and to dig in, but also, There's also the political warfare that's being waged throughout the world with the protest in capitals all over the world.

And Israel runs the risk of losing its political support if it lets this go for too long. Yeah, and it's happening. And what happened is you see the President of Macron go visit, the President of Netherlands comes and sees today Czech Republic is there. And what they're going to say is, we feel terrible what happened. It's just as bad as we thought.

But you know, I'm feeling bad for the Gazans too, and there are innocent people being killed. I don't believe the numbers, but there were innocent people being killed. What they don't understand is the blood's on Hamas's hands. But there are innocent people being killed, and the longer that happens, The more they're going to say, you know, America, you're out of control. Yes, get your get your surrogate out of get back in control.

And this is the type of administration that will sit on Benjamin Etanyahu, who I hope is strong enough and not so rattled as after his epic fail allowing this to happen unintentionally, of course. But listen to what the UN General Secretary had to say yesterday, and now you understand after you hear it why there was a need to try to retract it and clarify today. Listen, Karen. It is important to also recognize the attacks by Amas did not happen in a vacuum. The Palestinian people have been subjected to fifty six years of suffocating occupation.

They have seen their lands steadily devoured by settlements and plagued by violence. Their economy stifled.

Okay. Now, I think there should be some clarity here if you're just tuning into the Middle East craziness. There's been a series of peace agreements really since the 40s that they tried to bring in from the West, and we took the mantle really in the 70s, at which time resulted in the 67 War, in which all these Arab nations lost, the 73 Yon Kippur War, in which initial victories ended up in a massive defeat. And then there were the Oslo Agreements and a series of attacks and incursions.

Now it's Hezbollah instead of Syria.

Now instead of Egypt, you have Hamas. You have Iran being the fomenter and the financer of all this terror because they believe Israel has to be driven into the sea. And every time there was an agreement, whether it was the secular, so-called secular Yasser Arafat with the Palestinian Liberation Organization, there was a sense we could bring peace, let these two peoples live side by side. There was a talk of having the West Bank and a big bridge to Gaza, and that could be an area in which international aid would flow in, and you could pave the streets with gold. Instead, In a situation where Yasser Arafat dies, Abbas reigns, a weak leader, an evil guy, it seems, now elderly, he ends up losing an election to Hamas.

They get ousted from Gaza. Still, Gaza gets aid. And the millions that they get from Qatar and others like Egypt and Jordan, they use it to build bombs and rockets. 80% of Gaza lives in poverty, not because of Israel. It's because of Hamas in charge, elected, that allows that to foment and not give back to the people.

And they sit there keeping their people at bay by saying Israel is doing this. And for those who say there's too much security at the gate and it's stifling, it's a human prison.

Well, how how stifling was that gate when it was cut through, bulldozed down, and fourteen hundred Israelis, most of which were civilians, were literally massacred, decapitated, tortured. and killed.

So he tried to walk it back. by you doing that.

Well, yeah, it was a terrible attack. But what do you expect? He walked this back within thirty minutes. Listen to what he just said. by the misrepresentations by some.

of my statement yesterday in the Security Council. As if As if I was justifying acts of terror. By Amas. This is false. It was the opposite.

In the beginning of my intervention yesterday, I clearly stated, and I quote. I have condemned unequivocally the horrifying and unprecedented seven October acts of terror by Hamas in Israel. But he goes on to say, it's not in a vacuum. It's not as if you misspoke. I know all about misspeaking, just Google me.

There are things you say, there's no script here. You know, I'll read some statements. I'll go to some sound bites, but there's no script. You can misspeak. But the guy was reading off written remarks.

It didn't happen in a vacuum. 56 years. Of being denied land and suffocating sanctions and everything else he went on to say. He didn't say it by mistake. He's saying that we didn't take the whole speech where he said it's h uh horrible that Hamas did this to Israel.

But still, I don't like even the excerpt being both in the same speech, but that's me. But it shouldn't be catching them by surprise. A big push by Israel to get him to resign, but the US is not backing them.

So nothing will happen. Lastly, what has also come out is we're being attacked on a regular basis much worse than I thought. And because of that, The fact is, it's such a disgrace that we have not hit back. And once again, this administration that I thought embarrassed me with the slow walking of weapons in Ukraine and not getting them ready for the incursion, even though telling everyone the Russians were about to invade by their exit from Afghanistan, the weakness with China, allowing the Philippines to get knocked out of the South China Sea. That doesn't matter, as all that stuff matters and plays right into this.

A drone attack in the Altof garrison over in Syria injured 20 Americans. Two dozen American service members injured in attacks on Iraq and then Syria. That according to the CENTCOM. We have a pathetic response to what could be the 14 attacks, 90 over the last two years. There's been no response.

All we hear is we will respond at a time and place in which we're ready.

Well, we're 90 attacks in with four responses. I'm more than ready. And as an American, I'm offended that you have not answered back. That had struck David Petraeus, too. Here's what he said.

Cut 21. I think we're going to have to do something to Iran. There's a variety of actions that we can take. Certainly, first of all, of course, we're increasing the force protection very substantially, rushing additional air and ballistic missile defenses and so forth out there. But I think at some point, if this continues, what we're seeing being done by the Iranian-supported Shia militia in Iraq, that there will have to be a response to Iran, not to those militias.

Right. Here's Derek Van Orden, the Navy SEAL-term congressman in Israel, said this, CUT 22. What they need to do is reenact every sanction on steroids that we've had for Iran right now. Iran needs to understand that if they are, in fact, dealing with the United States in a manner like this, that they will be penalized immediately. And this is what they need to tell everybody.

Anybody who has ever touched an American citizen is already a dead man walking. And anybody who is holding American hostages here in Gaza, they're going to join that club fast. They need to release our people. We have to show strength from the Biden administration, and that's not. Happen right now.

And we killed 29, and where's the reprisals there? We'll pick a time and place, and we'll tell Benjamin Netanyahu to take his time. Really? I'm going to ask Martha McCal on that. Maybe have you weigh in, or you could write me at briankilme.com.

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This is the Brian Kill Me Show. If what you're saying, to avert a ground incursion, that is a question for the Israeli Defense Forces. They get to make the decisions about what operations they're going to conduct or not. We don't believe that a ceasefire right now is... We would believe that a ceasefire right now is only going to benefit Hamas.

You know, when Admiral Kirby took over, I'm convinced of it now. I think that Gen Sock is actually making policy. I think that KJP is not capable. And Admiral Kirby just wings it because he's a very smart guy and very experienced, but. He does, no one briefs the briefers.

They don't put them in the meetings.

So the stuff they say is they're basically just doing word. They're doing policy jazz, kind of weaving their way through.

So listen to this, Martha McCallum, whose show starts at 3 o'clock, whether you want it to or not. This is the Wall Street Journal saying this: Israel has agreed for now to request from the U.S. to get its air defense in place to protect U.S. troops in the region ahead of an expected ground invasion of Gaza. This according to US and Israeli officials, the Pentagon is scrambling to deploy nearly a dozen air defense systems to the region, including U.

S. troops serving in Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, to protect them from missiles and rockets. U. S. officials have so far persuaded the Israelis to hold off until those pieces are in place.

Martha, your reaction, if this is true.

Well, it's good to be with you, Brian. You know, this is becoming You can look at it a couple of ways. It's either becoming a whack-a-mole situation, I think in the short term, that's what it is. You have to ask yourself, how do we get here, right? How did we allow Iran to get something like $70 billion over the last 10 years or so?

How did we allow them to make so much money off of their oil production? The appeasement process for Iran has obviously failed in a grand way. They are empowered. They feel this is the moment for them to move forward. They want to wipe Israel off the map.

They're going to be coming at us from a number of directions. I think they look at President Biden and team and say, you know, their reluctance to. Speak very clearly on this issue about what they're going to do. We heard of a red line from Blinken the other day. We haven't heard that from President Biden.

He'll be speaking later today. We'll see if we hear that from him then. But they have, there's nothing, if you are Iran, there's nothing coming towards you that makes you think that you can't keep going forward. And my question for today is: are the attacks we've seen on U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria?

I would if I was in that news conference today, I would say to President Biden. Are is that a minor incursion? Right. Is this the minor incursion by Iran? We saw the minor incursion by Russia, and look where we are.

So my question is, do you consider what's happened to our troops so far a minor incursion? And where is this going? I want you to hear. This is, you talk about a lack of muscle. I mean, just so with the way people hold themselves.

Whatever you think of the Bush ears. And I actually think would they ooze competence? You might not agree with them, but no one said Dick Cheney wasn't competent. Nobody said Rumsfeld wasn't competent. Nobody said Colin Powell wasn't competent.

No one said George Schulster in the Reagan years wasn't competent. No one said that Jim Baker wasn't competent. You might go, wow, I disagree with Bob Gates. But I never felt as though he didn't understand what was going on or the gravity of the situation. When I see Jake Sullivan, Anthony Blinken, when I see President Biden, when I see Kamala Harris, I don't think they understand the impact of what's going on and the responsibility that they have and the options that they should use.

For example, Anthony Blinken, knowing what we now know, that there's been 14 attacks on our troops in three days, cut 17. The United States does not seek conflict with Iran. We do not want this war to widen. But If Iran or its proxies attack U.S. personnel anywhere, Make no mistake.

We will defend our people. We will defend our security. swiftly and decisively. No, you don't.

So this is another case of trying to sort of put the toothpaste back into the tube, right? If on October 7th they made it very clear that this was coming from Iran. And that they wouldn't allow this to happen, and that they clearly wouldn't allow it to move any further. And if anybody touched a hair on the head of any of our military in the region, that there would be hell to pay. And so now it's like this process of trying to put it back together and be tough here and there, it simply doesn't work.

Right. We're not asking people to punch above their weight. We are the highest weight class. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Kilmead.

Democracy is messy sometimes, but it is our system. This conference that you see, this House Republican majority, is united. I'm honored to have the support of my colleagues and what they understand about this is this is servant leadership. We're going to serve the people of this country. That is Mike Johnson of Louisiana, an evangelical Christian, conservative by all counts, big defender of the President's during his impeachment and even on the 2020 election dispute.

Martha McCallum here. Martha, I got the sense. After four rounds of the most embarrassing, unnecessary civil war in any party that I've seen in my lifetime. I have a feeling that Johnson's going to get it today. Yeah, I have that feeling as well.

I've been reaching out to people. There's cautious optimism that. Mike Johnson can close the deal here. I think that there is a collective humiliation factor that forces whoever comes forth to be probably the person who's going to get it. If you remember, during the 15 rounds of voting for Kevin McCarthy, who was right next to him and in his ear the entire time, Mike Johnson.

If you look back at that video, Mike Johnson was very instrumental in handling corralling those votes for McCarthy. And I think he can probably pull this off for himself as well. He's kind of an old school politician. He's a young guy, but I think he's reasonable. I think he's not flashy.

I think he doesn't care if people don't know his name. And I think we need a little bit more of that all across the board. They should be owned the only way you do it. Exactly. Hey, I got to go serve.

I've got to go represent my county, my district. And I'll see you in four years. Citizen representation. That would be great. Absolutely.

By the way, he had the ability to start in radio. And I think this is easy compared to surviving in radio. That was his first job.

So then he became a lawyer. Yeah, he's a lawyer, and now he might be the next speaker. A couple of things. Nineteen missed the vote yesterday, or twenty, depending on who you talk to. Three voted present.

So of those nineteen, like Derek Van Orden coming back from Tel Aviv, I'm sure he's going to vote for him. But are there any other crazies out there?

So now, now, now he protested the elect, you know, he was on Trump's side in the election. You know, is there any Adam Kinzinger types, Liz Cheney types? I don't think so at this point. But you don't know. I don't know.

They did a roll call vote apparently after they did the conference vote yesterday, just as kind of a feeler. And there were people who weren't around for that either.

So I don't know how solid they are on the number, but I know they've tested it a couple of times and they say they're feeling pretty good.

So now the last guy I want to hear from is Matt Gates, but I'll play it. CUD 32. Kevin McCarthy did everything he could to scuttle Mike Johnson. Without announcing his candidacy, he had like 40 people vote for him to try to create a ballast against anybody getting to 217 votes, but we smoked him out. We demanded a roll call vote, and on a roll call vote, no one voted for Kevin McCarthy.

We had votes for Mike Johnson across the board, and from some of the most conservative members of our conference to some of our frontliners, there was enthusiastic support.

So he is such a clown, self centered ass, I have no patience for him. His problem is with Kevin McCarthy, and he hurt the country. Because then I got to get these appropriations bills done. Do you know it's hurting the dollar? People are looking at I don't know if I'm going to invest in the dollar.

The American government doesn't look like a good investment in Treasury bills. I mean, it's impossible. It's impossible to overstay while Israel is under attack like this. I don't think that a few days from now anyone's going to care about this messy speaker race, honestly. It was embarrassing for them, but I don't really think that it stays that long.

Once there's a speaker, also, I don't think most. I'm sad to say this, but I think that most of the country doesn't know who the vice president is, and that's just not this vice president. It's any vice president.

So I would not bet a lot on how many can name the speaker of the house. Do you think. From those people that do this job in the Senate and the House. They're going to think twice before they wildcat it again, before they just say, I'm not playing ball, whether it's the Tea Party who has great points, but at one point you got to sign on and compromise, or whether it's the Freedom Caucus that at one point has a great platform, but sometimes you don't have enough people, so you have to compromise. Do you think there's any sense that, man, I looked over the water's edge, I saw that embarrassment.

I don't want that to be me.

Well, I would say this. You know, we heard a lot about the policy differences that exist, the very deep ideological differences that exist. And then we also heard about these intense feuds that exist between these grown men and women, which I think is ridiculous. Look at the other side. Do you think they don't have all the same sort of policy divides and ideological divides and Deep grudge, you know, I hate her and she hates him, stuff going on in the Democrat Party.

Of course, they do. Of course, they do. But now it only looks like Republicans have these issues. Democrats have these issues. They know how to put a clamp on it.

Nancy Pelosi was always able to get all of her ducks in a row and her the cats and any other metaphor that you want to use.

So that's the lesson that Republicans need to take from this. Also, no one cares about egos. No one cares about these people's, you know, their star power. Nobody cares. People want them to do, you know, take a lesson from Tom Brady: do your job.

Right. And just so you know, just the people that usually problem, Jip Roy, I'm not saying he's been a problem this time, but he's very conservative. He's happy. Ken Buck is on board. He's been a problem from day one.

Carlos Jimenez, who said, Kev McCarthy, Kev McCarthy, Kev McCarthy says, I'm very happy with this.

So I think they're going to get a speaker. My hope is that that they Change gears. And just in fairness to Democrats, we remember. The squad was speaking up and speaking out, and Anne Percy came out and said they just got here. And they did a deal behind closed doors.

She got another two years when she promised to retire after two years. Yeah, that's exactly right.

So they figure it out. Republicans need to. The other thing that they should do while they're at it is empower the speaker pro tempor so that if this happens again, there's no reason to have a speaker pro tempore if that person can't actually do the job while they're finding someone else.

So they need to fix that problem as well.

So they say legislation is the thing that stopped, but they said the committees were meeting. But the problem is they kept having to go into these closed door sessions and being pulled out.

So, for example, You love Mike Johnson's the best, right?

Well, do you think that Mike Johnson is going to get 11 appropriations bills done in two weeks? He is going to need, drum roll please, a CR. Same thing that Guess who did that? Kevin McCarthy. No, we're not.

And is that Matt Rosendale going to say, I don't give CRs? I'm tired of CRs.

Well, you just created a catastrophe with your vote. You know what? I mean, I think most of America is tired of CRs, honestly. And it would be great for them to figure out how to get their work done. You can't have regular order and get it done in two weeks.

Yeah.

Well, you know what? They always are up to these deadlines. And the problem is, and I think this is true, the problem is that all of these special interests and lobbyists have all these people in their back pocket. They push it until the final day so that they can't put through a budget in the way that they should regular order. And that is what they're doing.

That way they can bury their special interests in the final minute and nobody notices. And that's a huge problem. See, what I think, and you can call me naive, I actually think they were going to get their appropriations bills done. I think they were going to do it in November. They already had four done.

And the problem was this, not Kevin McCarthy going on vacation. They said that the Republicans just don't agree on the spending. Republicans with Republicans, let alone if it is it ten, nine? Is it pretty much ten nine in this meeting? I think it's one.

It's only one difference.

So they couldn't get the ten. To stand up to the nine. And the Democrats are like, You can't even get this to me.

So is it Kevin McCarthy's fault that 10 people in a committee appropriate? No, his margin is too small. This is why he ran all across the entire country campaigning and raising money for months and months and months. And that's why he could lay out two days before the election: you know, these are the 25 seats that we're going to get. This is what it's going to look like.

And if he didn't have that margin, he wasn't going to be able to govern.

Well, that's exactly what happened. I just wanted this just crossed. Speaker Designate Johnson sends a letter to colleagues laying out a plan to fund the government. It says in his letter that he would support a stopgap bill passed November 17th that expires on either January 15th or April 15th based on the consensus of a member working group that will look at a need for a CR.

So. Yeah.

There you go again. That answers my question. There you go. Again, this is perfect, right? Unbelievable.

I had the question and you had the answer. I mean, imagine if you ran a company, if you were a CEO and you kept saying, you know what, I'm going to get the budget to you, but it's actually not going to be until January 15th or maybe April 15th on how we're going to run your company. The board of directors would throw you out on your butt in five minutes. I know, and you got that business background. I have a different feel.

Sometimes you get hit with a natural disaster or a Fauci-made disaster like a panel. That's why you have a rainy day fund. That's what that's called. And if you want to fund $100 billion in war funding and defense budget, no problem. Show me where you're going to cut in order to do it.

It can be done. There's tremendous waste in the federal government. It can be done. I hesitate in bringing it up now without taking a break, but I'll do it real quick. Do you ever listen to The Daily, the New York Times podcast?

Yes. So they did a thing on the $1.2 trillion debt that we ran this year over budget, $1.2 trillion. Can you imagine this? We used to be over $500 billion, and that was a lot. We got $450 billion.

Now we're at $1.2 billion.

So they said, you know what, the problem is? The problem is, and again, you're the business person, you're going to laugh at me for saying this. When the business when those rates go up, I'm not thinking about our national debt, I'm just thinking about our personal debt.

So the debt that we had. is now at 8%.

So we are paying as much on the debt that we owe as our defence budget. And we can't keep up to the point where I was they are saying to people, investors around the world go, man, the world could blow up, the China is going to is one for war and the Middle East is about to go in flames, I'm going to put my money in treasuries. They go, no. I'm not convinced America's got their act together. I'm not convinced that they're going to be able to pay this debt.

I'm not putting my money into treasuries, which makes things worse and diminishes the impact of the dollar, which hurts our that makes us the superpower.

So the ripple effect of high interest rates, arguably because of the pandemic, but left up there because of this administration's spending bonanza, has got us to this point.

Well, no, it's no surprise. We have no international credibility in how we run our finances. No surprise. Back in a moment. You're with Brian Kilmead The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmead.

I actually believe them that they didn't read the letter closely. I think they scanned it, said it was blaming Israel, and went back to surfing TikTok. Because college life today is a day spa combined with a North Korean re-education camp. It's a daycare center with a meal plan, except the toddlers can fire the adults. The fact that college presidents who usually love to speak out about anything Couldn't find their voice to condemn the worst attacks at the Holocaust.

There's a lot about who really controls colleges. And why, if ignorance is a disease, Harvard Yard is the Wuhan wet market. I wish I could disagree with Bill Maher like the old days, but he's just so on the money. Actually, it makes me feel better. I shouldn't say wish, because it just makes me think that you can have a traditional Democrat or Republican and just say then there's just a logical, there's a logical club now.

And he can't put it. He's almost astounded, Martha McCallum. Astounded that he's got to put this in his model. You notice there's no laughs? Right.

These are almost statements. And this guy does a comedy show with a monologue full of political laughter. He was one of the early people who. Both sides would listen to to call out this woke. Culture, right?

I think wokeism is something that sort of at one point might have felt kind of hip on a college campus.

Now it's dangerous. The rubber is meeting the road here at these universities because Columbia canceled their donor day, essentially, where they were going to have, you know, everybody comes back to the campus. The Board of Trustees is there. I think last year they raised $70 million or something. They canceled it.

Now, I think it's fascinating. When you look at David Mammet's piece, he went really hard after Democrats, you know, and basically saying that they had been that. They had sort of been, the Jews had been fooled by Democrats, essentially, is what he wrote about. No joke, that's what Trump was saying. That's right, he did say it.

And when you look at the Jewish vote over the last four cycles, it has just been quietly increasing for conservatives. And it's very interesting to watch what's happening. But but Mammet said, you know, when your kids come home from for Thanksgiving, don't send them back. Don't send them back. It's a mistake.

But you know what the biggest mistake is? They're not getting an education.

So that's why you have this is stupidity. What we're watching, and it's ignorance. And it's not really their fault because all the way through high school and college, and I know there are good schools out there, and we're grateful for them, but they're not taught. About history.

So they don't understand the Middle East. It's extraordinarily complicated to understand the Middle East, but if they did, I have no problem. If they really have studied it and they understand it and they say, you know, I'm actually sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, that's fine, okay? But you cannot, I do not walk away from any of these protests and listen to what they're saying and really get the sense that they have an understanding of what's actually been happening there for 2,000 years. Because that's how far back you have to go.

And campuses can do it. This woman I spoke with, she went to a great school. She said, When I was in college, and she studied the Middle East, they had each student take a country. You're Jordan, you're Israel, you're the Palestinian. You have to now we're going to have debates.

You're going to understand your country better than anyone. You're going to argue for your country, regardless of your own personal feelings. Every kid left that class understanding it. Do you think that's happening these days on these college campuses? Absolutely not.

Absolutely not. And so they shouldn't send them back because they are not getting an education. And that's the saddest part of all of this. You just reminded me. I remember I did political science.

I had a minor in political science and I did. My my professor, who we used as an interview subject, was one of the Sovietologists, not even Russian, Soviet Soviet expert. And it was before the wall fell. And he said, let's negotiate a nuclear agreement. And we did it.

And then he goes, now flip sides, you get it from the Soviets. And just to get the Persian missiles down, it was back and forth and back and forth. And then we'd go and check the paper and check history and go, and we go, this is unbelievable. And then all of a sudden, I graduate and I'm watching the wall go down. I go, no one could have possibly imagined that.

The Russians would be that we're a time of peace. Eastern Europe would get their freedom on down. And now the Russians are reconfiguring, trying to mass up and become the Soviet Union again. And people don't understand why Ukraine's important. They don't understand the need to stop this aggression because they don't know World War I and they don't know World War II and they don't know the Russian mindset.

They don't even pay attention to Georgia losing two provinces in 2004, I think it was. No, it's so true. And if you don't understand, you know, what happened with the Russian sub that went down, the humiliation that that caused for Putin, if you don't understand what happened in the theater with the Chechen situation, that also deep humiliation for Vladimir Putin. If you don't understand his connection, his visceral connection to the Russian Empire, he doesn't want to take it back to the Soviet Union. He wants to go back further than that.

He wants it to be the Russian Empire again.

So, you know, if you don't have an understanding of all of this, he believes Ukraine is part of Russia, right? Because he's an empire-centered thinker.

So, you know, the problem is we're not educating, we're not educating kids. We're letting them take classes in Harry Potter and, you know, gender issues and all. Of these things, it's like college is fast, it goes quickly. You got to have core courses that everyone has to take if you want to graduate, educated students. And you got to pick the right major, a major of substance.

So, so look, you don't know what's going on, you don't really know what you want to major in. Join the cost. But beyond that, Brian, you have to have a core curriculum. And kids don't want to go to schools where there's a ton of core. But I will tell you, because I have some kids who went to these schools, you cannot graduate.

From these institutions, without two years of Western civilization history that you have mastered, okay? All of these other courses that make you a well-rounded thinker. You should not be able to go to college and graduate with a specialist in women's gender studies. If you want to study that in part, of course, that's an elective. Study it.

But you can't graduate unless you understand the dynamics of the Middle East, unless you understand the Russian Empire, unless you understand World War I, World War II. That's an education. I hear you, and that's great. But you're kidding me. You've done a good job, by the way, with your books of making a great attempt to lay that out for people.

And I think it's great. And I think I'm going to be on with you in a couple of weeks. Yes, you are. I'm looking forward to it. Also, go to BrianKillmee.com if you want to pre-order.

I'm going to be in New Jersey, which you are the queen of New Jersey, in Red Bank on November 9th. Thank you. So go get tickets. I'll talk about all my books in history and then take the barbs and the slings and arrows. Thanks, Martha.

See you three. See you in your way, Brian. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music with your Prime Membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Mm-hmm.