Biden promises Gaza humanitarian aid WON"T go to Hamas...

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kill Me. Hi, boy, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show. It's been all about, really for the last, since October 7th, all about Israel at war. When will it start?

Will it be a two-front war? And what will our role be? As to the stunning surprise, I don't know, to me, that so many people are pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian around the country and around the world, even in New York City. Lieutenant Colonel. Peter Lerner is going to be with us today.

He is kind of calling us he's the IDF, you know, he's with the IDF spokesperson, obviously an officer, and he's going to be joining us from Tel Aviv. And Michael Allen is standing by, a former special assistant to George W. Bush, Nestor's Security Council, and so much more.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. How can he possibly turn the tide on this? I think he can. I think that same pressure people realize that you can't keep playing games.

I mean, I think from the perspective, we let Jim as the nominee, let him work through this. Yeah. I don't know if he's being serious or not. Speaker McCarthy, round two. Worse than round one for Jim Jordan and his quest to be Speaker.

He lost more than they got. It looks like they will spin their wheels again for round three. What is going on with this party? What is going on with this body? Number two.

Not all America's with you on this. And you need punk. I'm not going to stop that. Yeah, she's an embarrassment to the country, but maybe not to her district in Michigan, where she did to leave. Anti-Israel protests crop up around the globe.

She led one in Washington, and especially here in the U.S. and around the country. How clueless are these clowns who really believe that there's a Hamas side and an Israel side and they're equal? Number one. Did you find BB receptive to the humanitarian argument you made?

Yes. Was was there any pushback from him or you felt that we were both getting across that? I don't know what you picked up, Anasi, but I got no pushback. The world waits to see if a ground war will begin in Gaza and if Hezbollah will go all in in the north. As the Biden administration commits $100 million for aid to Palestinians, as long as they don't give it to Hamas, Is that the most naive thing you've ever heard in your life?

With me right now, is Michael Allen knows the reality of dealing with terror organizations, and we usually don't. Michael, welcome back. Hey, thanks for having me.

So listen, everybody does nobody wants an innocent family to suffer, be uprooted from their house, especially in a region where 80% live in poverty. But is it naï to think we can pour $100 million into an area and not give it to the people that are in charge? We have to be very careful if Biden goes through with this because I think Hamas dominates the Gaza Strip. They will figure out ways to control the humanitarian assistance and mete it out themselves because That's their strategy. They want to be the caretakers of the people.

They want to keep their people down and unhappy so that they're resentful and willing to attack Israel.

So we need to be very careful if indeed this goes forward.

So the reporter asked: how do you know it's not going to go to Hamas? Here's where he said, cut five. If Hamas confiscates it. or doesn't let it get through, just confiscate it and it's going to end because we're not going to be sending any mandarin aid to Hamas if they're going to come and confiscate it. That's a commitment that I've made.

Are we going to put Apple tags on it? I mean I mean we got Egypt uh putting the I think a lot of trucks in there of humanitarian aid. I get it. They just have allowed that in, I understand it. But for now, we cannot let money fly into there.

It turns into guns. It makes no sense. And let's keep that radio clip there because I believe we'll have to try to keep Biden to it. Can you imagine, even if we had it dead to rights on video, I still think Biden would find a reason to not cancel the humanitarian assistance going in. because that's sort of his record.

He's more along the lines of I can get People to cooperate with me through carrots, but that doesn't work with terrorist organizations. It doesn't work with state sponsors of terror. And so I think we've got to hold his feet to the fire. Michael, with everything that you've done in Congress and in the House, in the Presidency, in and around there. This is a unique challenge.

I mean, here we are in a modern Yom Kippur Day war, where instead of being attacked by nations, they're being attacked by terrorists. But again, Israel is fighting for their survival. Clearly, we're all in with Israel. I did not expect this type of pushback. From in major cities, in college campuses and around the world.

Did you? I thought it would come, but Not this soon. I thought it would be a couple of weeks. I know that these people who hate Israel are out there. They use terms like apartheid, but it happened so quickly.

I mean, it wasn't. 48 hours after the bloodshed began, when there were protests on college campuses in the United States and across Europe, I knew the Arab Street, the so-called Arab Street, would get out there and support Hamas. But I'm so shocked and embarrassed that so many Americans have turned their back on Israel and have justified this bloody crime. killing of innocent families. Here's what so yesterday The president gave a speech in Tel Aviv, and he talked about not making the same mistakes we made after 9-11.

Basically, don't get so angry and overreact. Here's what Ari Fleischer said to that message, former press secretary during the Bush years, cut 12. You know, when he said that Israelis should not be consumed by rage, Who the hell does he think he is? I sat in on every single summit meeting with foreign leaders when they came to the United States after September 11th and met with President Bush. Not a one of them.

Not one said to President Bush, the Americans shouldn't be consumed with rage. Instead, they just came to support us.

So President Biden, who said some good things, never should admonish or lecture Israel about how to react like that. And he sat in on the war meetings yesterday.

So what's your reaction, Mike?

Well, I mean, I'm offended. That's ridiculous. Of course, they need to be full of rage, and they should channel that rage into taking out the two, at the very least, the two terrorist organizations in the Gaza Strip. And this may grow into a Northern Front war with Hezbollah, another Iranian-backed terrorist organization. But just as a general proposition, the idea that anybody should lecture a world leader who has just suffered one of the worst terrorist attacks, one of the worst military attacks, on their territory ever is insulting, and Biden really needs to clean that up.

So how would you handle this? If you were a part of a White House that wanted to support Israel, obviously, what would be the best way to do it?

Well, first of all, I think Biden has rhetorically been pretty good about hey, the United States stands with Israel, so that's fine. I wouldn't have lectured the Israelis in the way we just talked about. I wouldn't have lectured them on don't occupy Gaza. I wouldn't try and restrict or clip their wings and I would try to be expanding the options that the Israelis have. I think we should also be figuring out it through a complete review.

of what US policy towards Iran is. This should bring us Back down to the basics. Iran is a state sponsor of terrorism. They're a revolutionary regime that wants to export their ideology at least across the Middle East. and we need to revamp our entire policy.

It's been way too many carrots, not enough sticks. They have not they Obama and now Biden have not implemented and enforced the sanctions regimes that the U. S. Congress has passed over many, many years That needs to be reversed as soon as possible, and we need to get serious about what Iran is doing on terrorism, to say nothing of what they're probably doing that we haven't caught them yet on the nuclear file. Yeah, I mean, there is a report that they're hoping that our focus on Israel's response and the Hamas survival and the ground war will allow them to finish the job and get themselves a nuclear weapon.

And MBS turning around in Saudi Arabia says, yeah, if they get one, I'm getting one.

So so we could do both, right? We we could do both. We could support a ground war against Hamas and we could still police their nuclear program by sanctioning the elements they need to finish it.

Okay. Yeah, and we should see this as a diplomatic opportunity, by the way. We should be going to the European Union and to our friends in Asia who we need to help enforce oil sanctions against Iran and say to them, these are the true colors of the Iranian regime. They are state sponsors of terrorism. They are sponsoring murder and bloodshed in Israel.

They are trying to assassinate U.S. officials in the continental United States. They are not averse to trying to kill their enemies who may or may not be in Europe. We all need to stand together. Let's, at a minimum, enforce these sanctions.

Let's ramp up covert action to try and derail the nuclear program. And basically, we need to stand up against this regional. thread, which is the Middle East.

Now we all want to work on Asia, and we need to do more. And the Ukraine thing is a serious thing also because of Russia. But we're the United States, we're the superpower. If we're not paying attention to one of these critical Regions in the world, bad things happen, and we need to re-engage. Jake Sullivan said two weeks before this actual attack, the Middle East hasn't required much of my attention as it has my predecessors.

And we see what happened there. Not blaming him for the attack, but they basically told you the focus was not on that. Yeah, so Mike Allen, our guest. And Mike, just to really some of your background, this is why you're so valuable. Special Assistant to Bush 43, former Majority Staff Director, House Permanent Select Committee on Intel, and Managing Director of Beacon Global Strategy.

So you've got the economic, you got the intelligence, and you got the White House background, which brings us to Iran. And the President's speech tonight. He doesn't mention Iran.

Now, there might be a tactic to that, but knowing that he's been, as you mentioned, too many carrots and not enough sticks, my sense is it's almost fear. I don't want to bring this up. I'll bring in the Eisenhower, I'll bring in the Gerald Ford, I'll bring in the third carrier, send the message in the Gulf, but I don't want to say anything. If he asked you to help him with his speech, with the content, how do you phrase it? Knowing you don't want to start a world war, but also knowing that Iran's the problem.

Well, I think the aircraft carriers are helpful because they're sending a message to Iran. That if you unleash Hezbollah from Lebanon into the northern part of Israel, the so-called second front, you are going to have a big problem with the United States. I don't know that the Iranians expected us to step up this way. They may have miscalculated U.S. support for Israel, given how bad things have been between the Biden administration and Bibi Netanyahu.

But if I were advising the President tonight, I would definitely mention Iran and talk about them as a state sponsor of terrorism and warn them from future sponsorship of these types of attacks. If he doesn't mention Iran tonight, that is a huge missed opportunity. In fact, it's just sort of negligent. Presenting these issues faithfully to the American people. And that's key.

Don't talk to us like we're children. And don't talk to us to manipulate us. Lay it out. And that's one thing 43 always did. $100 billion he's going to ask for.

And he's going to say $10 billion for Israel. $60 billion is for Ukraine, Taiwan and the border, and other neighbors who are threatened by China.

Now, I know Ukraine is not as popular. I think it's necessary. I fundamentally believe that Russia has to lose there. I see the round vacations if we don't, but I understand the frustration people have because we're doing just enough for them to survive, not to win.

So the $100 billion will be the ass tonight. Your thoughts about how to do it. I think we as conservatives ought to look at this as the Stand Tall America Act. We are in a unique period in world history where we have a rising China, a resurgent Russia. and a terror regime in the Middle East that's terrorizing our allies.

I think this is no time for us to turn our back on our obligations in the world because you know what happens when the United States isn't around? World wars happen. Two have happened in Europe. Putin will move forward through Ukraine in a couple of years unless the Ukrainians are able to stop him, and he will threaten NATO, and we will have to put hundreds of thousands of troops in Eastern Europe to try and deter him from moving forward. That will allow us to take our eye off the ball and give a green light to Xi Jinping to take over Taiwan in twenty twenty seven.

That's the plan. That's what they want to happen. We need to go ahead and strangle Russia in the crib. Let the Ukrainians do the work. Also We need to begin to set the theater in Asia to deter China from taking over Taiwan.

So I hope the U.S. Senate, I know Senator Sullivan and a lot of great conservatives there are trying to insist that we put some money in for Taiwan and for our Indo-PACOM troops in the area so that we can build up deterrence in Asia so that Xi Jinping wakes up every day and says, ah, you know what, this is not a good idea for me to invade Taiwan.

So the problem is production, Mike Allen. Evidently, we cannot make weapons fast enough that they wrote the check two years ago and we're not doing the best we can to make Taiwan a porcupine that China can't beat. They want to spend. We're not able to produce. How is that possible?

And how have we not been unable to ramp up production since?

Well, the one silver lining of all the Ukraine aid is that they are beginning to. But look, it is a failure of the Biden administration. Their defense budgets have been pathetic and puny. They have not kept up with the inflation that Biden has caused, and people have noticed. We need to be able to pump more money into the defense industrial base.

By the way, that means jobs for the United States. Yes. But it also means that we will be able to deter our enemies from fighting all across the globe.

So this is a good news story for the United States. We need to stand tall. We need to get it done. There's too much bureaucracy at the Department of Defense. There's not enough action, folks, to get these people on contract.

We got to move faster. I haven't been to China, so having said that, everything I read, all the people I've talked to, they are having huge problems economically, and the future does not look bright. And they're pouring their money into their defense. Am I to think that they're not feeling that right now? Oh, they are definitely fueling their military.

They have been growing in a double-digit way for many, many decades. They are coming after us. They want to displace us from the region. They said it yesterday. What's that?

They said it yesterday. Yeah, arguably they can already hold at bay a lot of our naval assets from the South China Sea. and they want to be able to dominate the region. Economically. That is the real rub for the United States.

If my family sitting at home in Alabama may be wondering why in the world would we care about Taiwan? The reason is that it's the most economically dynamic place in the world. And they have their chips, then we need them. Mike Allen, thanks so much. Invaluable information.

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A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Yeah, I just went a little long, and I feel bad about that because it was just so interesting to talk to Mike Alan. There's so many moving pieces. The one thing that bothers me.

I don't really think it was necessary for the president to go over. I would feel the same way if Trump went over, and they'd be killing him for doing that. How dare you put yourself in harm's way? And then for Jordan and Egypt to blow him off and the Palestinian Authority. I seem to be the only one that bothers.

As an American, that bothers me, especially when now the Foreign Secretary of the UK is meeting with all these people, and then the reason why they didn't meet. Was was totally erroneous. That the Israelis blew up a hospital. They didn't blow up a hospital.

So the minute it became clear and everything was all the evidence was provided, guys like King Abdullah know, all right, clearly they didn't do it. Plus, if they did do it, it's the Fagal War, a war that was perpetrated on them by a terrorist attack.

So, having done that, they didn't reverse it.

So, he comes in and out. And one of the things they did is he sat in on their war council meetings. I think that's a little bit insulting. Number two, Held off an invasion possibly, because you don't want to do that with the president here. And number three, you got to give $100 million of aid to the To the Palestinians, but you're not gonna you're gonna make sure that you don't give it to Amazon.

If you do, you're gonna take it away? Come on. Aid is aid. You don't give money, you give blankets, MREs, you give necessities, medicine. You wanna do that?

All right. You know, if a Hamas terrorist gets some back teen, I'm okay with that. But if he gets some cash, that's not okay. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead.

The hospital bombing was being talked about in the Arab world on Arab media within minutes of it happening. It didn't need Hamas to encourage the conclusions. And frankly, talking to Arab sources yesterday, it was like the lid coming off a pressure cooker. I mean, I think that to some extent, we just didn't notice that MBS in Saudi Arabia kept Anthony Blinken waiting. We haven't necessarily understood enough the level of anger in the Arab world.

And the Jordanians, I think, frankly had no choice but to call that summit off. And I'll tell you why. Because Arab leaders are very, very worried about the Arab street, about people coming out into the streets from Cairo to Beirut, because many of them remember the Arab Spring. That's Cure Simmons, the NBC chief intelligence correspondent. They had no choice but to call it off.

Know what you do, you make a speech saying, we just looked at intelligence, talked to Israeli intelligence, or reg got the transca the intercepts ourselves. The Islamic Jihad basically admitted to it. I'll provide it. President of the United States is in Israel, and I told him: We're going to either Zoom together or he's going to be coming by. And that's it.

Be a leader. You're the king, you've got the army. I owe it to America. I'm very westernized. All my friends are from Hollywood.

I'm King Abdullah, whatever that means. And I got to have a meeting with the people that are providing billions of dollars for my economy. I'm pretty sure for free. I'm not sure what we get for that. Lieutenant Colonel Peter Lerner joins us now, an IDF spokesperson.

Colonel, welcome back. It's Brian Kilmeat here. Your thoughts about this whole hospital bombing and what's happened since. Type brian.

Well, obviously the the The Explosion in the hospital. uh was a Mass media manipulation organized and orchestrated by Hamas. amplified by traditional media, social media, beyond expectation. And even when we came forward with the truth that you must very eloquently introduced. Uh Some people didn't accept it.

This is the challenge we face in the modern battlefield of a media saturated, social media saturated and operating environment. uh it means that we are going to have to defeat Hamas. Not only on the battlefield, but also in the middle on the field of public opinion.

So we've had reporters go out because we cannot believe the amount of pro-Hamas Palestinian rallies. And they just don't believe it. Oh, the Israelis make things up, or you guys aren't telling the truth. And they don't even see a mic flex. They're not even condemning Fox, or if they don't even know if we're CNN, Fox, or a local affiliate.

And they're just coming out. They just don't believe it. And here's an example. There's this group called Jewish Voice for Peace yesterday at the Capitol. This is one of the protesters, cut 21.

We're here today as Jews, as US Jews, to say ceasefire now, to say stop the genocide that's happening against Palestinians. Um we are here to say that As personally, as an American Jew, my government sends almost $4 billion a year to the Israeli military and government. Right now, there's an imminent genocide about to happen, and we are called.

So you understand what she's saying. I mean, I know you must be shaking your head in Israel right now, but what do you say to someone like Danny Noble, a Jewish voice for peace? I would say, you know, unfortunately, people use terms that they have no idea about. They're very, very emotional and connected to principles that have very little real information. And unfortunately, there is a movement that surrounds them.

And that is a challenge that we face.

However, as a military spokesperson, our role is to fight the battle. And we are facing it head on, taking out Hamas leaders as we speak. And indeed, this is the ripple effect that people and some people that don't like the fact that we can defend ourselves, or I would say it's not can defend ourselves. We have no choice. but to defend ourselves from the butchers of babies in their bedrooms.

And we will. And I would say we will we listen to our our friends, our allies, and we also listen to criticism. But we are determined to defeat the enemy. What was the President doing in your war meeting yesterday? Obviously, I'm not on the political echelon, Brian.

I mean, I wouldn't be in that and I would not talk about it. But we were, I think. When Israeli society is looking at the friendship and the alliance between Israel and America and the US and our military-to-military relations. And we are emboldened and and and So very grateful for the support and friendship. And yes, we will move forward with that support and friendship.

But my problem is, you guys know your neighborhood. Nobody has to tell the Israelis how to fight your enemies. My worry is that politicians will get involved, and being that we're providing so much hardware and support, That you might have no choice. That's my worry. Um Yeah, we have Like the US military, we work based on on three core components of our operations.

Distinction military necessity and proportionality in warfare. And some sometimes politicians take these three terms and they mix them up and they haven't got a clue about the military components, what it actually means. And we will utilize those and we will convey those. And the fact that President Biden took our intelligence, accepted it and then double checked it with the US intelligence that confirmed their with their own analysis It goes to show we're on the same page, and I think that is the strong message we're sending, and it's reverberating around the globe and specifically in our neighborhood with Iran and Hezbollah up in the north.

So, yes, we have a strong alliance. It's built on joint values, shared values. Um friendship, a deep friendship, and and the the the the will to live, I think. we want to live here in freedom and in peace. And I think that is that resonates with so many, and that's why the friendship is strong.

And fr even friends sometimes can have disagreements, and we know have to know how to work through them. And I think th th that we are very as I said, Very grateful for the friendship of the US. Right. To be honest, I thought that you guys, with your great knowledge, could have been more of a help in Ukraine, but you're concerned about the relationship with Russia and they'll have to let you hit these terror groups in Syria, and you didn't want to jeopardize that, it seems. I mentioned that to Benjamin Etanyagu when he was on his book tour, and he said, Well, things will change when I get in there.

I'm not sure they have, but here's one thing that we are doing. Evidently, the president had his checkbook out. He said, I'm going to give $100 million in humanitarian aid to Gaza, but I'm not going to give it to Omas. And here's what he said about that on Air Force One Cut One. Did you find BB receptive to the humanitarian argument you made?

Was there any pushback from him where you felt that we both get across that?

Well, we've had a number of discussions on this. It's not not new. Look. I don't know what you picked up, Nusra, but I got no pushback. They got no pushback.

Wa is there a reluctance to give $100 million to the Palestinians and think Hamas is not going to get any? I think the last thing, though, that President Biden also said that it was. uh it's for the civilians of of Gaza. And I would say, you know, the people of Gaza are not the enemy of Israel. The enemy is Hamas.

It's the terrorist organization that c conducted and organized orchestrated and implemented and executed their their attack, their massacre of of so many thousand three hundred people abducting two hundred and three, the counters now. And so we we appreciate that support and we understand that the the rules of law and the the the the the boundaries and of the laws of armed conflict. um that comes with responsibility as well.

So I think it fall actually falls into our joint plan of how to manage the the conflict, the the war at at what on one side of the and the other coin and the other side of the coin is basically Um Get Pama. The system Let's change the paradigm. Let's make sure we can limit the civilian casualties, alleviate some of the civilian strife despite war. But Hamas needs to be eradicated. Lieutenant Colonel Peter Werner with us from, I think, are you in Tel Aviv?

Yeah, I'm in television. Yeah, so Colonel. Yeah. How many fighters do you think make up the Hamas fighting force? And how many of you think have chosen to leave not to have this fight?

Because they like to sneak up on people who are sleeping, children who are playing, Holocaust survivors in wheelchairs. I don't necessarily think they relish fighting you guys.

So, do you think most of them have left, or do you think they want this? Um I think there's probably a mixture between the two, Brian, but there are several tens of thousands of Hamas operatives, but we're not just going over the operatives, we're dismantling the entire system.

So when we take out the Minister of Finance, it's because he finances terrorism. Uh when we take in out the the leaders of um the Nukba force, the the commander unit of Hamas, then obviously it's because they are the operators. And we are going to dismantle the entire system. That's the goal, as far as the government has directed us.

So if you are a terrorist, if you have, you know, they we have all of this. Video footage that they were videoing themselves because they're so proud of their butchery. Um from body cams. We will get to each and every one of them. They won't be able to hide.

I want you to I talk to Masab Hassan Youssef, whose dad was one of the founding founders of Hamas, and he was a member and he was imprisoned and he flipped became a Christian and wrote a book about it. Talked to him a few years ago, and then we caught up to him today. Here's what he said the mission should be about, Kut 8. I cannot convince uh the the entire world of truth. Right now, people are emotional.

They hate to see children dying. Even though Hamas is killing the people at the hospital and we have evidence of that, but they still blame Israel. People can blame whoever they want. But now we have to concentrate. We have to focus.

Public opinion is very important, but unfortunately, it's not uh the time to win the public opinion. It's the time to win the war against the most brutal terrorist organisation living today. You know? And later on when people look back At the situation, they will understand what we were doing. We should not be afraid of the public opinion.

We have to explain as much as we can, you know, but now we have to concentrate on our goals.

Sounds like good advice. Absolutely. I would say we are very focused on the operational mission. And yes, sure, we are communicating, engaging, speaking to everybody, sharing our information, bringing forward the facts. But that won't deter even when people don't accept it, we will continue to move forward because we Brian, we have an alternative.

This is a fight for our existence. It's not a rampage for retribution. It is a serious, serious thing. And what Masai is saying is very, very clear. And he has from first knowledge and first experience had been on the receiving end of Hamas as a terrorist organization.

And of course, with his experience from within within the Palestinian society and within Hamas specifically. And our experience their brutality, their their their the blind hate Um The mercilessness is very very clear that this cannot never happen again. This can just just can never happen again. Um we have Now focused our activities on just receiving. There's an alarm sounding in the north along the border with Lebanon.

I'm just looking at that as that's coming in, but we feel that there is a serious need to change the paradigm and reset the system in Gaza for I would say for everyone's benefit. There are two hundred and three Israelis and foreign nationals that are being held hostage. There are two million Palestinians that are being held hostage by this terrorist organization.

So are you worried that the longer you wait to go in, the more there's going to be these protests and push not to? And will that play a role as you're a military guy, will that play a role in the planning and execution? No. The land operation, if decided by our government, will be in accordance to the operational needs. Um so mobilization is a the continuation of the political globe larger mission.

And we will do that when we are ready, when all of the units have their tasks. And equipped properly, and are have exactly know what they're supposed to be doing, and have the training. that we're going through as we speak. And that, I think, is that will be determined. And if and when, we'll be prepared to go in strong and to do the job that we are tasked to do.

Your sense right now, the chance of Hezbollah moving in, I know you've got eyes on them, you you'll see them mobilize. It's hard for them to hide that, even though they hide their rockets in neighborhoods. Your sense, are they is there a sense that you go in you go south into Gaza and they'll come in to start hitting you guys in the north? Yes, we're preparing for that possibility.

So there is a sense that it may happen. We're sending a very clear message to Hezbollah not to cross that threshold. They've been escalating rocket attacks against us. with anti-tank guided missiles over the last several days now. And today, we've also had an incident with even with some casualties over the last few days.

We are responding, striking Hezbollah, killing their operatives when they come and try and infiltrate into Israel.

So we are killing them as on en route. But yes, we're telling Hezbollah, look how we are dismantling Hamas, you don't want to go there. And we're sending an even more, I would say, stronger message. To the government of Lebanon. This is your territory.

You take care of your business, otherwise, you're also going to pay for it. This is the situation with is very fragile. Obviously, Iran is behind everything that's going on. And there's a question there about to what extent, but they have invested extensively in the terrorist infrastructure in uh in Lebanon, in Gaza, in the region. And so, yeah, we need to be prepared.

We need to understand Iran is. the streams there. There is an interest to to try and challenge us. as we focus on Gaza. Uh but we you know what we have the forces to Right on a two front.

More if we need to, or a multi-planet. You're not going to be afraid to do it. Yeah. Colonel, thanks so much. Appreciate it.

Especially as you're getting warning signals. You still kept it up, kept it going here as the alarm went off. Colonel Peter Lerner from Tel Aviv, thanks so much. He's with the IDF. We're back with your calls in a moment.

Brian Kilmicho. You're with Brian Kilmeade. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmeade. As you know, President Biden, the U.S., they take the position that this was not an Israeli strike, but the result of other Palestinian militants. Do you believe that to be the case?

Sir, nobody's buying that narrative in this part of the world. In reality, the Israeli army is not very credible in this part of the world as well. The only way that people would entertain a different narrative is if there is an independent international inquiry into the tragedy that has happened with impeccable evidence that it was not Israel.

So that's who we're up against, Jordan's foreign minister, talking about how Israelis clearly hit that hospital. Even though we saw it on Al Jazeera, the first time I saw it was on Twitter. X. On Al Jazeera, I said, what does Al Jazeera have this? And I saw the headline that said it looks like it came from Islamic Jihad.

So Al Jazeera, the number one Arab network in the Middle East, was saying that this was done by Islamic Jihad and an Aaron missile. They also have the intercepts of them talking back and forth about the Aaron shot. It came from the cemetery, it hit the hospital. It didn't even hit the hospital, by the way. It hit the parking lot and portions of the hospital.

Having said that, the war was started by Hamas. Brutality is off the charts. If they hit a hospital, which they didn't, it would be by mistake. If Hamas hits a hospital, it'll be the goal. Fundamentally, that's the big difference between these two sides.

A humanitarian strike against defenseless people is bad for Israel, and it's the goal for Hamas. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmean Show.

So glad you're here. 1-866-408-7669. I come to you from Midtown Manhattan, where there are so many, just four blocks away. There have been a steady series of rallies for the Palestinians/slash Hamas. Uh there's been some counter-rallies by the Israelis, uh Israeli supporters, which I thought there was a lot of.

But I'm just flabbergasted by the lack of support for Israel, even though they are the victims here and they're about to go after their attackers. For some reason, people are having trouble figuring that out. This arrow is going to be joined by Senator Marsha Blackburn and Dan Senor. Dan Senor, former foreign policy advisor to Bush, but he has a new book out called The Genius of Israel. Great timing.

He has great contacts there. He has two nephews fighting in the IDF.

So he's going to be providing the latest insight. And I believe he might, in fact, be in studio.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. How can he possibly turn the tide on this? I think he can. I think that's the same pressure people realize that you can't keep playing games.

I mean, I think from the perspective we let Jim as the nominee, let him work through this. That is Kevin McCarthy pretending that round three is going to go better for Jim Jordan than round one and two. Worse than one, Jim Jordan lost more votes than he got as his quest to be Speaker. It looks like they will spin their wheels again today. Number two.

Not all Americans with you on this. What? And you need power. That is the crazy woman from Michigan, Rashid Tlaib. The anti-Israel protests crop up around the globe, even here in the U.S.

And they are not going away. Even in our nation's capital, Rashida Talib is still holding on to the fact that the Israelis blew up that hospital when it was, in fact, the Islamic Jihad. We all know that. She is clueless. Number one.

Did you find Bibi receptive to the humanitarian argument you made? Yes. Was there any pushback from him or when he felt that we were both getting to cross steps? I don't know what you picked up, user, but I got. No pushback.

Well, the world waits to see if a ground war will begin in Gaza and if Hezbollah will go all in in the North, as the Biden administration commits one hundred million dollars, that's what the President was referring to, for aid to the Palestinians, as long as they don't give it to Hamas. Is it possible to have a more naive foreign policy? Let's bring in the senator from Tennessee, Senator Marshall Blackburn. Senator, welcome back. Thank you.

Good to join you. Senator, I don't want to see anybody suffer, especially people living in an area that is 80% of which are in poverty. I know that Palestinian people have been asked to move south. Why not give aid? Why give cash when you know Hamas runs everything there, will be like mobsters taking it from well meaning Palestinians who need it?

You're right about that, Brian. And Hamas has a history of taking the aid money that goes into Gaza. We've seen it with the UN Relief and Works Agency. And of course, that is one of the reasons President Trump cut funding to that agency. And Joe Biden beefed it up and gave them $730 million.

They employ people that are affiliated with Hamas. They store weapons and ammo in relief agency facilities in Gaza.

So, if you're putting this money into relief to Gaza, it is going to go through the hands of Hamas, even last week. Hamas was out there grabbing fuel, Food, medical supplies that were coming into the country. They weren't going to the people, they were going to Hamas fighters.

So that's one thing, another difference from the Trump policy. What did Trump do with that aid? What Trump did was to cut that aid. And what he did was to focus on Israel. What he did was helping with Iron Dome, with David Sling, and with the ability for Israel to have what they need to defend themselves.

They're our best ally in that region, and it is important that we stay with them. If you're sending money to Iran or sending money to Gaza, that money is going to end up helping Hamas, helping Hezbollah. Iran is the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism. They give Hamas about $100 million a year, plus supplies, equipment, ammo, artillery. They give them the things that they need, and they do the same thing for Hezbollah and for the other terrorist organizations that function as Iran's proxies.

Basically, they do the dirty work that Iran does not want to do. Even if Israel hit that hospital, it would be by mistake. It would be an error. I remember when the Bosnia War was happening, we hit the Chinese embassy. It wasn't because we wanted to.

It was an errant rocket or we had bad maps, whatever the story was. That's never our intention in the West, especially with Israel. They know it doesn't work to their benefit, nor does it. help them sleep at night to kill innocent people. But they had nothing to do with this.

But to give you an idea of what they're up against, I want you to hear the Jordanian foreign minister talk on another network yesterday. His name is Ahmed Safadi, Cut Nineteen. As you know, President Biden, the US, they take the position that this was not an Israeli strike but the result of other Palestinian militants. Do you believe that to be the case? Sir, nobody is buying that narrative in this part of the world.

In reality, the Israeli army is not very credible in this part of the world as well. The only way that people would entertain a different narrative is if there is an independent international inquiry into the tragedy that has happened with impeccable evidence that it was not Israel.

So, this is what we're up against. That's an intelligent guy, obviously. Jordan has been a loyal. ally of ours. The king comes here all the time and goes to movie screenings, but yet we can't get them to meet with our president who goes in the region and they still believe that the video that was put out in Al Jazeera wasn't right and the intercepts that we got weren't correct.

And it is so frustrating to see that because, yes, indeed, Jordan has been one of our allies. And when the video, when the phone conversations, when the surveillance from the drones shows where the rocket came from, which was in Gaza. And that it misfired and it landed in that hospital parking lot, caused that fire, caused That tragedy there at that hospital, and then they still do not want to accept that because what would they prefer to do? They prefer to blame Israel. We know that Hamas in their charter states one of their goals is to destroy Israel.

When you look at Iran and listen to the Ayatollah, what do does he say? The goal is to destroy Israel. And Brian, they are using this. occurrence. They are using this strike at Israel.

They are using this event to further their goal of removing Israel. And this is something people need to be very clear eyed about and pay attention to what is actually happening With To Israel and why Israel has the right to defend themselves, and it's why the United States. Needs to stand in lockstep with Israel. I want you to hear, too, with the problem in Congress, it's not just the protests that took place in the Capitol yesterday, it's members of Congress like Rashida Tlaib.

Okay, I understand she's a Palestinian, but do you understand the intelligence the Pentagon provided, the intercepts, and everything we just mentioned? It's not only she tweeted out that Israel did it, and then she goes ahead and heads up a protest where she's speaking, inciting this crazy crowd. Listen to this maniac, Cut 22. A lot of people are not going to forget this. And that's what's been really painful.

It's this just continue to watch people. I think it's okay. to bomb a hospital. We're children. You know what's so hard sometimes?

time since watching those videos. Mm. And the people telling the kids. Kids don't cry. President Biden, not all America's with you on this one.

And you need to wake up. Right. Since he's threatening President Biden, by the way, there's no House Speaker to condemn her and offer a resolution for it. You have our Pentagon saying this. You even have.

You have Elon Omar come out and say, listen, what I said, you know, and retract her tweet essentially. How is she allowed to keep serving? And if the House had a speaker, if they were organized intending to regular order business. passing their bills, continuing their investigations, funding the government. They would have the bandwidth that they could put a censure resolution on the floor and censure uh to Lieb for what she is out there saying and the fact that she does not retract that information that she put out, that it was Israel that bombed the bombed the hospital.

So you talk about abdicating leadership. Listen to Hakeem Jeffries when confronted. Cut 23. There's two of your colleagues, Congressman Talib and Omar, who have tweets up saying that Hamas is to blame for the hospital attack in Gaza. Should they delete those tweets?

I've been very clear in my position. and standing behind Israel. As it relates to its right to defend herself against the brutal terrorism of Hamas.

So, should they delete those tweets? I haven't seen the tweets. Yeah. He could easily say, if those tweets are correct, as you characterize them, of course they should be taken down. But he won't even say that.

Right, and that's exactly what he should say, and show that leadership that is necessary. But Brian, we are hopeful the House can resolve their issues today, elect a Speaker and then get back to regular order because as long as the House is in disarray, the American people are not hearing about the missteps that the Biden administration has made with Iran, with their Middle East policy, the confusion that they have given to our allies and our adversaries, how they're perceived as being weak, how that emboldens terrorists. The American people are not hearing that story, and it is not being covered by mainstream media.

So I am hopeful they can get their act together and move back to regular business. I hope so, too. It's an embarrassment. But as you try to get majority in the Senate, and it looks like it could happen, if you look at West Virginia, look at Montana, you look at you got a strong candidate in Rogers, in Michigan. You have a lot of people who are going to give a real run of things in Ohio.

So if this goes to you, an effective run against you guys will be they can't handle leadership. They gave they had a six-vote ma majority. They couldn't even name a speaker. They were fighting with each other the whole time. That'll hurt the Senate flip.

Of course, and we realize that. I think it's why you're seeing the Senate continue to move forward, trying to fund government, trying to make certain that we get this spending bill to the floor. All of our Republican issues are resolved on this first mini bus. We are waiting for the Democrats to choose to move forward.

So far, they have not. We hear that it is something that Leader Schumer would like to see a shutdown. He would also like to have an omnibus so that he can up the spending.

So we're fighting against that. Yeah, omnibus would work for him, not for the country.

So today, the President will be speaking tonight. And yeah. The President will be speaking. And he is going to be asking for, we understand, $100 billion, $60 billion for Ukraine, the border and Taiwan and other nations that need help because of China, $10 billion for Israel. What are you open to this?

And what elements are you not? What we want to do is make certain that these issues are debated separately. Israel needs some funding. We understand there is going to be $10 billion for Israel. We hear that the balance of the bill, the other $90 billion, will be used for measures dealing with Ukraine, with Taiwan, and also some money for the border, some immigration and some border dollars that are there.

We anticipate that the immigration dollars will be money for the blue cities that have been saying we've got to have help.

So this is something that I would not be in support of. What you've got to do is address the root cause of the problems there at that border. Of course, the vice president was supposed to do that. She went down to the border one time, went to the wrong address, never really got out there with the border patrol to see what was actually happening on the ground. Yeah.

So um Why would we be spending money until we can identify what we need? And the Border Patrol says what we need is a physical barrier, better technology where we cannot have a barrier, and more officers and agents to deal with the push. We need changes in the asylum process, how someone can apply for asylum and where they can apply for that asylum. We want to make certain when it comes to Ukraine that there is some transparency around that. We have $75 billion that is in the pipeline for Ukraine.

So for goodness sakes, let's have some transparency and know where that money is, where things are in the pipeline, when equipment and ammo is going to be to the front line in Ukraine. What is happening with humanitarian aid? Did that money actually end up going to the UN instead of directly to Ukraine? Who has had their Fingers in that pot. We're looking for some accountability on this.

Because it hurts the cause, Senator, because we know it's in our interest to stop Russia here. The president's going to try to explain that tonight, slur his way through his speech. He does not have much charisma. Maybe he wasn't born with it, but he used to be a lot better speaker before. And he's got to tell everyone why it matters.

The guys who've made the people who are making the biggest pitch are people like you, Lindsey Graham, General Keene, who are talking about what it means in the big picture. But the president just expects the American people just to write checks. And that's got to stop. It hurts the whole cause.

So he's going to speak tonight, and we'll see where we go from there. Senator Marshall Blackburn, great to talk to you. You two, take care. All right, 1866-408-7669. When we come back, we're going to take your calls, and I'll go at BriankillMe.com.

You can write me. Then Dan Cenor joins us in the studio. Don't move. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Russia and China's narrative is that various events in the past 20 years, Gulf War, September 11th, the 2008 financial crisis, the chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan, are all part of the decline of the US. And they will be, when President Xi and President Putin met yesterday, they will be saying to each other, here we go, here's what's happening in the Middle East, another event, another marker of the decline of the US. And it's for the US president to show that's not the case. Right, and make it clear.

It can't be this president. I have not done it yet. And that was another Intel expert over on NBC, so pretty effective. Let's go to Jerry in Chicago. Hey, Jerry.

Good morning, Brian. Thank you for taking my call. I gotta get something off my chest. Why is it Every time there's a Democrat in the White House, Their heads are so far up their rear ends when it comes to foreign policy that they always make the world a more dangerous place. It seems it I mean, President Obama, the pullout, remember we had after the surge, Iraq, we had a presence and it was fine, and he decides on pulling everybody out.

And it ends up, we get ISIS, and Iran comes in. We're actually fighting with Iran to force ISIS out. Remember that? And then we get this enclave. The Russians come back in at the same time and say, we're going to be in Syria.

We're just letting you know they knocked on our door in Baghdad. You remember, of course, Benghazi. Remember, we got rid of Gaddafi. He had absolutely no plan afterwards. I mean, people can have bad plans, but no plans was not an excuse.

People forget about that. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. And when he said that Israelis should not be consumed by rage, Who the hell does he think he is? I sat in on every single summit meeting with foreign leaders when they came to the United States after September 11th and met with President Bush.

Not a one of them. Not one said to President Bush, the Americans shouldn't be consumed with rage. Instead, they just came to support us.

So President Biden, who said some good things, never should admonish or lecture Israel about how to react like that. Dan Senor is with me in studio. I want him to hear that because he used to work with Ari Fleischer and the Bush administration. He's got a brand new book coming out in a couple of weeks called The Genius of Israel. Dan, I wanted you to hear that because it really plays to I don't know what your answer is, but it struck me that Ari Fleischer was really direct about that.

It was kind of odd for President Biden to be sitting in the War Council meeting With the Israeli military. Because I get it, we supply him with great allies and all this stuff, but the war hasn't even started yet. Do we need the great war planner Joe Biden there? And what about the fact that he says in his speech, don't be consumed by rage? Was that insulting advice?

So, first of all, I think it was important that President Biden was there. I think it's been important that President Biden has compared what Israel is up against to ISIS and to the Nazis, because we both know how each of those ended with a U. S. commitment to completely wipe out and eradicate those threats and those menaces on the Western world. You can't on the one hand and and by the way.

and to console these people. who are completely shocked. And rattled, and it's important for them to know the president and the United States government is standing with them. I cannot tell you, Brian. I have a lot of friends over there.

I have two sisters who live in Israel. Mother lives in Jerusalem. I have nephews who've been called up in the reserves. I have friends who have. Family members who have been Taken hostage, so it's a raw, raw time.

Israel feels vulnerable, it's the most vulnerable. Israel has felt since the Yom Kippur War in 1973. And so having the President of the United States be there on the ground. I think sends an important message. That said.

Of course Israel should be consumed with rage. I mean Burning babies. Decapitating children, torturing people. I mean, just think for a moment what Hamas did. First, They captured these people, these innocent civilians.

Keep in mind, over a thousand of the Israelis were civilians. They weren't in uniform. First they captured them, Then they tortured them. Then they Killed them. or rape them, And then they burn them.

So their bodies were unrecognizable. unless they burned them alive. instead of burning them after they actually killed them. Israel is full of rage. As it should be.

That is the natural human response. The question is: how do you channel that rage? That's the question. Not, should you be filled with rage? It's how do you channel that rage?

And I believe Israel and Israeli society is coming together. In the healthiest and most responsible and most resilient way. You mentioned my book, The Genius of Israel. The subtitle of the book, Brian, is The Surprising Resilience of a Divided Nation in a Turbulent World, which is we explain why this country is so resilient, how the country comes together. Uh the sense of solidarity in the country.

So that rage is being channeled into the most healthy In a constructive way, let me tell you something. Israel did this call up of reserves, 300,000 to 350,000 reservists called up. The percentage of turnout is 150%. Meaning, they overshot in the number of reserves they called up because they weren't sure what the turnout would be. It's 150%.

People are showing up, more people than they know what to do with, and they can deploy. People who are aged out of reserves. Are showing up, saying, I know I'm aged out, but I want to be here and I want to be helped. People retired military are showing up. Civilians, the civilian mobilization to help the country is angry But the country is not.

defeated.

So that rage is being channeled into a positive, constructive, as one as positive as one can imagine way in this was positive as one could hope for in this environment and with and as positive as one could expect it with given what it's been dealt.

So I don't um I don't know what he meant. Right. Yeah, who knows? He said that, well, I mean, put it this way. There's a the big thing now is how effective has the bombing raid been?

knowing that there are hostages there.

So there are hostages there. You got to be somewhat surgical in a very the dentist, most populated area in a country 25 miles long and five miles deep.

So, how successful has it been?

So far. have have been doing the kind of bombing a a a military can do before the major war offensive begins.

So to the extent that it's preclearing a lot of b basically they're trying to take out, among other things, they're trying to take out Uh weapons depots and launching areas that could be a problem for the uh IDF when it actually goes in goes in. Uh they're doing that well. You know, it's been a number of days. I am a little concerned that they're a little worried about that. Because they can get out and they could also plot and plan.

They can plot and plan. The the military personnel that they're the the military leaders of the the leaders of Hamas's military wing who they really want to get are you know, it gives them time to scatter, maybe. Uh, and um And it just there's a sense of momentum that you may lose.

Now, look, I think there's internal debates going on in the Israeli War Cabinet right now to try to figure out How to prosecute this war and You know, it's a it's a there are disagreements within the War Cabinet, according to reporting in the Israeli press, and according to people I'm speaking to, there are disagreements on what to do next and what to do first. But and so that's also cause for delay. Because you want to know if you should actually push for the Northern the Northern Front because this country is mobilized now. They understand the threat. How many more attacks do you need?

Do you need something of that magnitude to go off on Hezbo now? And does if you want to hurt Iran, you'd wipe out Hamas and Hezbollah or diminish them to set them back decades. The biggest misconception of what Israel deals with is when they refer to it as the Israeli Palestinian conflict. That is incorrect. It is.

It used to be. Yeah, it used to be, but the Hamas cause, the Hamas movement is a proxy. For Tehran. And Tehran has a number of proxies. It has Hamas, it has, to some degree, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, it has Hezbollah up in the north, as you mentioned.

It's got Syria in Israel's east of Israel. Iran's got a huge presence. And Iran has a huge presence.

So all these entities are proxies of Iran. And Israel's got to think holistically about the threat. It's not just about taking out the Hamas threat because Hezbollah in the north. Which is just as vile. and barbaric.

As Hamas is in the south. Has 10 times the capabilities of Hamas, 10 times the rocket capability, 10 times the personnel. In fact, the Hezbollah militias, their terrorists, are better trained than Hamas because they've spent the last number of years they were deployed in Syria to fight in Israel's civil war on behalf of Assad.

So they're actually better equipped.

So Israel's got to think about this holistically. In terms of what it's dealing with. And Iran is at the center of this.

So, as it's written, if they take on Hezbollah, buildings will fall in Tel Aviv. I mean, there'll be problems. But are you. Are you taking on a war that would be more damaging in five years, in ten years? And then are there is going to be right now you do have the public sentiment.

And if the world is ever going to be on your side, even though some of them stagnantly are not, they would be now, because we see this.

So that's what you guys, that's what they're debating over there. I would talk to Musab Hassan Youssef, whose dad was one of the founders of Hamas. Yeah, son of Hamas. Yeah, he went to prison, came back. He ends up working for the Israelis.

He wrote a book about it. He's now somewhere, I think he's in the Virginia area. Here's one of the things he said about the PR war and the need to go in and how lethal these guys are, cutting. I cannot convince uh the entire world of truth. Right now, people are emotional.

They hate to see children dying. Even though Hamas is killing the people at the hospital and we have evidence of that, but they still blame Israel. People can blame whoever they want. But now we have to concentrate. We have to focus.

Public opinion is very important, but unfortunately, it's not uh the time to win the public opinion. It's the time to win the war against the most brutal terrorist organisation living today. You know? And later on when people look back The situation they will understand what we were doing. We should not be afraid of the public opinion.

We have to explain as much as we can, you know, but now we have to concentrate on our goals.

Is he right? Yeah. I mean, it's it's heartening to hear what he says, uh, I must say. I mean, I I know his story uh quite well, and um his book is is quite good, and he is um I have a lot of Israeli friends who are have relationships with him. Um Yeah, I mean, by the way, what's interesting is, so he has all these direct ties to Hamas, and he's saying these things.

I'm struck by the number of Arab voices. In and around Israel, that are basically saying versions of what he said.

So Israel has a large. Arabic Population inside Israel that are citizens of Israel.

Okay, they're minority. Because I don't really see, you know, I'm not seeing that. I know. Exactly, because you're not getting it covered here.

So there's an Arab population in Israel. They have political parties in the Knesset. They have representation in the top academic institutions in the Supreme Court. They have historically Been very critical of Israel, even though they're citizens of Israel. Think of them as on the far left of the Israeli political spectrum.

And they have mostly been historically sympathetic to the Palestinian narrative and the Palestinian cause. even other citizens of Israel. For the first time, I've never seen this. They are speaking out as proud citizens of Israel. There's an anchor on one of the major Israeli television broadcasters, a news anchor, Lucy Arash, who's who I can I've been posting on social media.

After this interview, I'll post on Twitter and Instagram again just for people who want to see it. What she did on television, where she does her broadcast every night, and she's known as a fierce critic of Israeli government policy. And she said, I'm going to say something now. She said it in Hebrew. She said, I'm going to say it in English.

I'll put the English clip up on my social media. And she said, I stand with Israel. I'm an Israeli citizen. These people who wage this barbaric attack are not me. And I abhor them.

And she, and so you, and this is like a prominent Arab voice. And it's not getting attention over here. Is it a Muslim? Yes. Yeah.

And it's not getting attention over here. And so I just think Yes, you play son of Hamas, but there's more and more of these voices speaking out. And um and how could they not? Because Many Arabs live in Israel, as Israeli Arab citizens. They're regular.

Dan, I was struck by the fact that 18,000 work permits people come out of Gaza to work in Israel. I didn't know that. 18,000 come through those gates every day. You know what breaks my heart is if you look at the communities that were targeted in the south of Israel in the October seventh invasion. Many of those communities are secular.

quite liberal communities, these kibbutzes, the kibbutzim. They're they're Peace-oriented people. They actually want to coexist in many cases with Gaza. There are volunteers from some of these kibbutzes who go to Gaza every day to pick up Palestinian children, to help bring them to medical centers, to get them their dialysis. Whatever, I mean, there's these amazing stories.

These people, like this woman I'm telling you about, she's dead. Or they've been taken hostage. These are the people they attacked. I don't know. But they did do research on how to get them and infiltrate military bases.

They were on for hours. I saw in the manual, they thought the attack would last three to five minutes. Yeah. And instead, it lasted forever. Yeah.

And that's what is stunning. I don't think you guys can wait. Israel can wait to the end of the war to figure out what happened. They got to find out now. I really think, I know you only have so many resources.

That's the problem. But there's got to be somebody on this. We were studying 9-11 while we were still mobilizing for Afghanistan. You're right. The problem is, Israel's, as we've talked about earlier, smaller.

And it's got multi-fronts that potentially are opening up. Right. Dan Ceno is going to stick around. His book's coming out because he's. Just ironically, no one knew this was going to happen, obviously.

The genius of Israel. If anyone knows what's going on there, he does. A few more minutes with Dan, we come back. Brian, kill me, Choe. Expanding your knowledge base.

It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, welcome back. Got a couple more minutes here with Dan Senor.

The president's got to address tonight, at which time it would be great if he just addressed Iran as the major problem and talk about how what I would love to see, and I know he'd love to do it. I made a decision to try to bring Iran back into this nuclear deal and try to bring them back into the family of nations. It's been an epic disaster. There's reasons to believe that behind all of this, at the very least, the funding and creation of Hezbollah and Hamas, therefore X, Y, and Z. That to me would be an effective address.

I don't think he's going to do that. What about Dan Senor, former foreign policy advisor of the Bush administration, author of The Genius of Israel, coming out in a couple of weeks. Dan, you know, communications. What do you think they're going to be in that speech tonight from the Oval? I think the President.

is recognizing that public opinion right now is extremely high in the United States for support of Israel. Again, as I've said earlier, not despite the protests. Despite the protests, the reality is most Americans, the overwhelming majority of Americans, look at the forces of barbarism And the forces of civilization. And they say, we're on the side of the forces of civilization. And that's why you're seeing High 70s, 80s percent of Americans across the ideological spectrum saying we stand with Israel Supreme.

How about this? Almost 80% of Republicans anyway. Right. And now it's over almost 60% of Democrats, up 17 points since the attack October 7th. I don't know what the Democratic Party has been doing, but.

Right. And so I think it was a wake-up call. And look, you know, we've seen this before, Brian. About a decade ago, when ISIS was on the move. America's role in the Middle East was in the decline.

And Overwhelming, you looked at the polls, should America be involved in the Middle East? Overwhelming majority of Americans, not over 63%, 64% said America should reduce its presence in the Middle East. And then you remember it was in 2013 or 2014, those two hostages were beheaded by ISIS. Remember, they videoed it and they broadcasted. Right.

One was Australian, one was an American reporter. And Uh public opinion. Flipped overnight. Majority of Americans said We need a presence in the Middle East. We shouldn't be bailing out of Iraq and these other places so quickly.

I think when Americans see that kind of barbarism, they know we need to be engaged in the world and they know whose side we need to be on. And the President needs to channel that. The President needs to express that. America is engaged in the world. It's engaged in the Middle East.

We've got to stand by our allies and we've got to confront the nucleus And the architect of the barbarism. And as you said, that is Iran. And he has to say that tonight. He's been reluctant to say it. He's not said it at all.

He's barely mentioned. I don't think he's mentioned the word Iran. And he's hinted at it. He's discouraged other parties from getting involved or capitalizing on this moment. He's speaking about Iran, not just Iran, but he's been speaking about Iran.

But yeah, I he I look once he once he talks about Iran, it does commit the US in a sense. To to being much more involved than I think the President wants to be. Right. And you have to think about yourself. Is there a scenario where the next day after a successful invasion, without the Israelis occupying?

Where this doesn't become a terror den again if Iran's allowed to continue to fund these terror networks. If Israel does real damage to Hamas and even does real damage to Hezbollah. But the Iranian regime is still intact and untouched? These gr terror groups will rise to fight again. I mean, that's just the reality in the near term, not in the long term, in the near term.

Because Iran's presence there. And does it bother you, Dan, as somebody who really understands global politics? At the same time, China's got over 100 nations in a conference for the Belt and Road program where they give out loans that people can't pay back and projects that probably won't be effective. But the Belt and Road program in China looks like they're in charge. Yeah, it is.

And look what China's done in the Middle East. China's tried to raise its presence in the Middle East, too, for this reason, because they sniff American weakness. Right. And people are tired of it. They want to worry about home, but you can't.

It's going to come home. Right. What happens in the Middle East doesn't stay in the Middle East. All right, Dan. Thanks so much.

Go out and pick up his book. You can pre-order it. Genius of Israel. Thank you. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division.

It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. Mark Thiessen is standing by. Governor Chris Sununu, too. It's going to be a great hour. I'll talk a little bit more about 2024.

As you know, and I think you understand, and I think you like. We're focusing a lot on the Israel war, about the air attack now is happening in Gaza, overdue, and Hezbollah continuing to duel with the border. I'm watching some footage now. But out by the IDF of uh incoming and outgoing missile strikes on the northern border of Of Israel. And you heard the debate in a previous hour on the Thursday edition with Dan Cenohar, and he says his sources tell him within the war cabinet in Israel, they are debating on whether just to, you know, let's go at Hezbollah.

Should we get this over with? Because if we now have this such a horrific attack, it's united the country in such a way, and for the sober world that isn't blindly. Caught up in these religious wars, they know what's happening. They know Israel is going to respond. They know Hamas and Hezbollah are no patron saints of Saudi Arabia, of Jordan, of Egypt, of UAE, of Qatar, of Bahrain.

Nobody loves these guys.

So, maybe this is the moment that you take them both on at one time. And that's the big debate now. And I know the downsides to it and the word is buildings will fall in Tel Aviv if you're fighting Hezbollah. But how much worse will it be if you wait five years? And who's the big problem?

It's Iran.

So let's go to Mark Thiessen right now. Mark Thiessen from the Washington Post, Fox News Contributor. Mark, we have a lot to talk about, but I do like you to outline the President's going to speak today from the Oval Office. I know you were complimentary on the trip. and the President going back and forth.

How do you think do you think the President was effective in handling the blow the kiss off by Egypt, Jordan and the Palestinian Authority? No, not at all. I think that, quite frankly, it was embarrassing that they canceled the visits with him. But, I mean, there's nothing he could do at that point. But I'll tell you, he needs to step up his game a little bit.

I think he's been supportive of Israel, and that's great. And I know that the Israelis are appreciative of it. American Jews are appreciative of it. But there's a lot more that he needs to say. I think he needs to send this clear message to Iran tonight.

And again, I've written a bunch of these speeches from the Oval Office before.

So I know what I would write for him. I don't know if he'd listen to me. But send a strong message. If he keeps saying to Iran, don't.

Well, they did. Arash Hamas is an Iranian proxy. Oh, I have to correct you, Mark. I have to correct you. He never said Iran don't.

He said others who might just say the name. Yeah. Yes, exactly.

So what it what he should say tonight is Iran has, through its processes, has killed dozens of Americans and has taken Americans hostage. I hold Iran responsible for the lives of every American hostage held by Hamas. If Hamas harms a single hair on the head of a single American, Iran will pay the price. And he doesn't have to be specific about what that means, but we all know what happened when Iran killed an American under Donald Trump, he killed Qasem Soleimani. And I think the message should be privately in back channels that every time an American dies at Iran's hands, a Kut Sports commander will die as well.

And that should be the strong message. I also lost 29 people. I think I don't have to tell Marquis. Yeah, no, 100%. I mean, they should already be paying a price, but I think that there's a reasonable thing that he could do now is say, Touch another American.

I'm reiterating the Trump red line. If you kill an American through one of your prophecies, I will not hold the prophecy responsible. I'll hold you responsible, and you will pay the price. And that's what Trump did, and I think that was the right thing to do. He also needs to get behind Iran's war, Israel's war aim, which is great that he says Israel has the right to defend itself, but what Israel has said is its objective is to destroy Hamas.

That is the same goal the United States had, by the way, when we came to ISIS. And so we should endorse that warring. The goal is not just to beat back Hamas. The goal is not just to exact revenge. It is to destroy Hamas as a political entity and drive it out of Gaza and make sure that they are no longer in charge there.

And that aim should be there. And then the third thing he needs to say tonight: he needs to have a message to American Jews. American Jews are reeling. Right now, from these anti-Semitic protests that are happening all across the country. And Joe Biden was very, very explicit in condemning the far-right anti-Semitic march in Charlottesville.

And he now has to be equally explicit with all the far-right anti-Semitic marches that are taking place on university campuses. That he needs to make clear that this is that anti-Semitism on the right and anti-Semitism on the left are equally unacceptable. And he needs to police his own party because this anti-Semitism is not just, you know, the difference between right-wing anti-Semitism and left-wing anti-Semitism is right-wing anti-Semitism is a fringe movement. The people in Charlottesville were not members of Congress. You've got Democratic members of Congress marching in these anti-Semitic rallies right now.

And he needs to police his own movement. It is an elite movement when it comes to the Democratic Party and the left. It's happening on American universities, the most elite universities in the country. It's happening in the halls of Congress. It's happening in the media.

It exists in the media, in the left-wing media, which is excusing Hamas's actions in attacking Israel. He needs to confront. His own movement, police his own movement, and say that this is unacceptable and make clear statement that he stands with American Jews against anti-Semitism. That would be nice. I think he'll do that.

I would not be surprised if he did that. What I would love to be surprised at what he's going to do. Yeah, what he's going to do is. Right. And I know you just did.

You cheered the speech. You cheered the trip. I personally believe that, especially when it emerged about the hospital, that it was not them. They provided video evidence. They provided the intercepts of Islamic Jihad saying, What did you hit?

We're in the cemetery. You just hit a building. My goodness, how did we do that? And when it turns out they clearly was not an airstrike, then you call up King Abdullah and say, Listen. I understand you're a little hot under the collar, but you're wrong.

They did nothing wrong. You know what the attack is. I'm coming to the region. We give you $5 billion just for exhaling. You're going to meet with me.

And L C, you're going to do it too. Or you're going to lose your $2 billion. I mean, and then the Fatah movement, we basically provide protection for this guy, this 82-year-old loser, Yasser Arafat wannabe, who is totally ineffective and let the West Bank go to hell and Hamas dominate. 14% approval rating. And you're not going to go see an American president?

I mean, at least someone else bring that hammer down. Yes. I think that the message to them should be here's the deal. If you don't if you don't it should have been, if you don't meet with me and you don't and you don't back us here, then the money we're giving you, we're going to give to Israel and Ukraine. Instead.

Because we actually want to support U.S. allies in pro-American countries. And the other thing he needs to do tonight is really draw a moral distinction between Hamas, civilian casualties at the hands of Hamas, and civilian casualties at the hands of Israel. Because this moral equivalence that's happening right now is outrageous. Hamas, there's a difference between Hamas coming in and targeting homes, raping, you know, they literally took a pregnant woman.

cut her open, stabbed her child and then shot her in the head. You know, they're burning people alive. That is far different from a situation where Israel warns Hamas, warns Palestinian civilians to get out. That we're striking, they literally send text messages to people saying we are going to strike this building in an hour. Get out.

They send dumb bombs to hit the top of the building to let them know that there's a real bomb coming shortly. And to get them out, they go to extraordinary measures. And it's Hamas that is forcing them to stay. It's Hamas that is setting up roadblocks and preventing Palestinian civilians from escaping. They want those civilians to die.

Those civilians are Hamas casualties as well. And he needs to draw a moral distinction between those two things. These are not the same. And call out the media, by the way. I still haven't seen a correction from the New York Times where they showed, they showed Israel's strike kills 500 people, one not Israel, two, not 500 people.

And by the way, they showed a picture. That was supposed, that looked like it was the hospital, that wasn't the hospital. I mean, this is, you know, he needs to call out the media for the way they're handling this and reporting, you know, Palestinian radical propaganda. He'd be right to take what you just said and make it his speech. And it's going to be very hard to push back.

I'll write it for him. I'm free this afternoon.

Well, you are a speechwriter, so Rashid, I know my way around the West Wing. I'd be happy to go over there and spend the day and help him out if he wants. And if you can't find out whose cocaine it was. If you don't mind. By the way, this just came in.

Yes, Commander's gone, thankfully. By the way, this just ended. Jordan will not seek a third speaker vote, allowing the House to empower interim Speaker Patrick McHenry.

So the man that was put there by Kevin McCarthy, by McCarthy, not voted on, who's third in the power to be president, will now be the speaker?

Well, hold on. I have no problem with that.

So here's the thing. This position of Speaker Pro Tem was created after 9/11 as a continuity of government measure, right? To make sure that the government was able to function if something happened, if there was a terrorist attack, the speaker was killed or something like that.

So, by definition, continuity of, it's not continuity of government if he doesn't have any power. I mean, if the president is killed and the vice president assumes the presidency, he assumes the powers of the presidency. But this isn't a tragedy or an attack. This is just an epness. And then.

Yeah, but then, and I agree with ineptness, but the ineptness started with taking, they got rid of a perfectly good speaker. That's where the anemone started. I'm not worried about that.

So if Matt Gates doesn't want Patrick McHenry to be the speaker for the rest of this congressional term, then get his ass then let's get his ass out of line and get and let's let us let them elect a speaker that has the support of everybody.

So here's and by the way, there's certain people that are just not going to budge. And Jim Jordan evidently had his surrogates out there pounding people to vote for him. You saw that one text message to the wife of one of these congressmen saying your husband's career is over if they don't vote for Jim Jordan. I mean, who came up with that idea? Because it's stupid.

The idea, first of all, you know, threatening people with votes and strong arming, that doesn't ever, no, no member is going to turn around and say, oh, yeah, I'm going to make you speaker and give you actual power over me, you know, and let's tell me which committees I'm allowed to be on and all the rest of it. Nobody's going to give him that power if he behaves that way.

So, you know, and again, this is all what I'm seeing here, which is actually heartening to some extent, is that there are some members of the House, reasonable Reagan Republicans, who are turning around and saying, you know what? If Matt Gaetz and his band of knuckleheads are going to terrorize our caucus and do that, we're going to fight fire with fire. And we're not going to let them bully us as well. And so I'm glad that there's a dozen or so Republicans who are willing to stand up and not let the Matt Gaetzes of the world run the House of Representatives. They have to feel the embarrassment.

And by the way, just to expand on it, Jordan is dropping his bid, is dropping his bid for the time being, but he remains the speaker designee who reserve their. Option to hold a speaker vote at any time. Senior Democrats are supportive of this plan. In fact, Josh Gottheimer was on last night. He's a member of the Problem Solvers Caucus on special report.

Here's what he said to this move, Cut 37. I think for extending the pro temp and Patrick McHenry and making sure that he has the power he needs to be able to run the House properly, I think it's just getting the country back to work. That would be what I require. To actually address, make sure there's not another shutdown, because that's brutal the country, right? To make sure we get resources to Israel and Ukraine, right, to me, and make sure we deliver things for the country and for people here.

That to me is my requirement as we get back to work.

So the thing is, what if these eight got together and go, nope, that's not what I want to do? Will Democrats step up and just just overwhelm, overwhelmingly vote? And will they want something in return for doing it?

Well, I don't think you negotiate with them, first of all. Second of all, they want to get Ukraine aid passed, which is the President's priority. Do you want a Speaker who can do that? Or not. That's what you get.

That's what you're what you give them. The majority of Republicans, the majority of the House wants to pass Ukraine aid. The majority of the Senate wants to pass aid to Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan and all the rest of it.

So, you know, that's what you get. you get a Speaker who can who can enact the bipartisan bipartisan will of the House and the Senate. You don't get anything else, number one. Number two, I think this is fine because now it puts the pressure on if they don't want Speaker McHenry, then it puts the pressure on them to come around and negotiate and have somebody that everyone can have consensus around. Matt Gates doesn't get to run the House of Representatives.

I'm sorry, nobody elected him Speaker. He he thinks that he's like the de facto Speaker because Morons like him drove our majority down to just four votes because that wing of the party nominated so many unelectable people and lost so many winnable races. That's why we have a four-vote majority in the House right now. And they should be rewarded with that by having the power to dictate how the House is run as a result.

Okay, here we go. It's going to be interesting to see what happens. They say, I mean, people were digging in on Jordan because of his heavy hand. I don't think they had a problem with the fact, and I'm not saying you're saying this, but I don't think they had the problem with that he was a member of the Freedom Caucus. I don't think they had a problem with the fact that he supported Trump to the end and he had problems with the election.

All that stuff I don't think mattered. Do you? For Republicans. It it it it probably varies by member. There's probably some who did have a problem with that.

So think about this. There is no political cost to Matt Gates for bringing down Speaker McCarthy. There is a political cost for some of these moderates who are running in Biden districts for voting for Jim Jordan.

Now that that's that's that's not an it that's not a clean vote for them. You know, they they're going to get attacked for for backing a Speaker who is an election you know, they'll say is an election denier and all the rest of it. That could hurt them. And you know, the reality is, if we if those 13 or so Democrats who are in Biden districts, they call them the Biden 13, I think, if they don't win, we lose the House. There is a price for voting for somebody like Jordan for those reasons.

So Jack Lou wants to be the ambassador to Israel. You wrote distinctly why he should not be. Here's a little of the exchange yesterday with Ted Cruz, cut 16. You advocated for UN Resolution two three three four, which declared much of Israel illegally occupied territory, including the Jewish quarter. In Jerusalem and the Western Wall.

Do you believe the Jewish Quarter and the Western Wall are illegally occupied territory? Senator, I do not believe that it is illegally occupied territory. Why did you support a UN resolution saying that it is? It was a UN resolution that. All the parties had to agree to that was negotiated to take action.

There you go. That's just a little of it. Just real quick, 20 seconds on why he shouldn't get it? That in alone is disqualifying. But what is disqualifying is that Treasury Secretary, and this is what I wrote in my column in the Washington Post, that he helped Iran try to avoid U.

S. banking sanctions and lied to Congress about it. Mark Thieson, yeah. What self-respecting member of Congress will vote for that? You shouldn't.

Mark Thieson, thanks so much. Look up his column in the Washington Post. He writes about it in great detail. We'll come back with your calls. A lot going on, Mark.

Thanks so much for putting it in perspective. Back in a moment. The fastest three hours in radio. You're with Brian Kilmead. I really encourage the media to stop talking about the Gaza health industry.

That's the Hamas health industry. That's who's reporting this. And the purpose of putting that out there is not just to demonize Israel, it's to inflame. The streets. Jordan Lebanon in the broader Arab and Muslim world.

It's all part of an informational strategy as well which threatens to spread this conflict beyond just the armed conflict to some real internal problems in a number of countries in the region. He's so small. I was just saying that this guy's perspective is so good, Rubio. And him and Trump get along. If Trump wins, He should be tapped.

Lindsey Graham. Marco Rubio, Get Back Pompeo, Robert O'Brien, Steven Miller. You get some quality in there. Just a quick thing. Teddy and Booker T is coming out November 7th.

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I can't wait to meet you in person. BrianKillme.com. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Did you find BB receptive to the humanitarian argument you made?

Was there any pushback from him or Well we've had a number of discussions on this. It's not not new. I don't know what you picked up in this room, but I got No pushback. Virtually none. Let me say it again, I got no pushback.

Well, okay, I heard it the first time. I'm really not deaf, but I would love him to speak up. Joe Biden, who whispered his way through the press conference, but he showed up, and people in Israel are happy. And he was sitting in the war meeting with the Uh I guess their version of a situation room, I I'm not comfortable with that. I would just have too much respect for a country to go do that.

But having said, and I'm not saying he disrespects him, but how it would be perceived.

So, number one, number two. Telling them, I'm going to give $100 million of aid to Gaza, and if Hamas gets it, I'm going to cut it off. Does you understand what exactly is going on here? Hamas wins the popular vote in the area, and maybe they're the thugs and everyone's afraid of, regardless. Give them stuff.

Do not give them money. And to me, if the Israelis know this, and if he doesn't know this, we're really lost. With me right now is Governor Chris Nunu, who's not running for re-election, but still a power broker in New Hampshire and respected throughout the party. Governor, welcome back. Oh, thank you.

Thank you, Brian. How are you doing? I'm doing good. First off, I know you signed this letter. The President put out there to stand up and support, pledge your steadfast support for Israel.

There was still hesitation with you. No, no, definitely. No, not at all. Look, Israel is our ally. They're kind of the rock that allows America to maintain a strong presence in that region.

They've stood with us. We need to stand with them unequivocally. This isn't some political dispute. This is nothing territorial. This is murderous monsters, terrorists that went in and just murdered and butchered families.

And so there's just no equivocation of that. We just need to make sure that the administration understands not to listen to members of their own party who want to equivocate, who want to effectively make excuses and call for peaceful resolution on both sides and all this. Look, Israel was attacked. We need to stand with our allies. Period.

End of story. Listen, and it was a brutal attack. And I understand them. I don't really, I couldn't tell you the streets of Gaza. I know how dense it is, 2.1 million in a 25-mile by 5-mile area of the world.

I get it. And I see going south, I understand. Getting aid trucks in there, I support it. But besides that, I would not be writing a $100 million check, would you? This is our money.

There's no real plan here either. It's uh we're gonna write a hundred million dollar check, but to your point, logistically, how do you do it? Hamas controls the region, Hamas is the government, Hamas controls everything.

So There's no sense of where those dollars are going to go. How do we be assured that they're not being funged and moved around and supporting these monsters?

So there's no way to do it. And that's where Jordan and Egypt and these, Qatar even, need to step up and be those intermediaries to help provide, if they want to provide relief, they've supported Hamas in that area before. They should be doing it now. That's on them. Our job is to support our allies in Israel.

Right. And, Governor, how important is it, and especially with you, you know, you were being with your dad as chief of staff while you were growing up and your brother was governor, and then how long you've been doing this job? How important is it to have a plan for the day after? I was talking to General Petraeus was on with me for an hour, and between talking on and off air on TV and radio, he was just talking about the need to have a plan. They didn't have it in Iraq.

They learned from that. He was a two-star at the time. He would ask people what's next, and they go, let's just win. And now, do you need it if you're Israel right now before you go into Gaza? You always need an exit strategy.

In all governments and all through history, the biggest problems are laid out when you rush to something and you want to take action, and the action might be perfectly justified, but you always need to have this pre-planned out in terms of the exit strategy. Afghanistan, right? Last time I checked, that didn't go so well. And it went actually horrible, and Americans lost their lives.

So even countries like America have really screwed this thing up. And so no, you always need the exit strategy, you always need the game plan, you always need plan B, C and D and be able to pivot, provide flexibility in what you're doing. That's just good planning, whether it's on the military aspects or just good government, right? You always need to know what you know, plan out what your contingencies are. Hopefully they're doing that.

I think Jordan canceling the the meetings with Biden were one of the biggest problems I see in this whole mess. And I understand that the hospital blast, you had all the misinformation coming from that. I mean, you had you had right here in America, you had the New York Times and the AP reporting that Israel had had blown up a hospital when it turns out that wasn't true.

So misinformation leads to a lot of has a domino effect in a lot of other problems. But meeting with Jordan, talking to Egypt, making sure those meetings happen, would help lay the the ideas and opportunities for exit strategies and contingencies. But that's not happening anymore. And we just have a president saying he's going to cut a big check to who knows who, right, wh and where the money's going to go.

So You know, this stuff has to be followed through, and that's where I just don't think the administration is on their A-game on this one. I don't think they're off, but they're not you gotta give 120%. You gotta have contingencies even when Jordan says we're canceling, you can't just accept that, right? There's too much at stake. And we give them too much money.

We give them too much, we just write them checks for nothing in return. For not attacking Israel. And the checks are all over the place, by the way. All the different organizations, who these organizations are run by, who they're influenced by. Is it going to humanitarian aid?

Is it going to militaristic operations? Is it going to digging tunnels? I mean, it's so once that money goes over there, it's virtually impossible to say that you have a good accounting. Right, Jordan in Egypt, I was talking specifically, but I just want you to hear a little bit from the foreign minister. This is what we're up against.

Jordan knows that Israel didn't do this. They knew that it wasn't an airstrike. If they didn't know initially, they knew immediately. They were able to provide the intercepts of these Islamic jihad clowns going back and forth, going, You know, did you just hit a hospital? I'm in the cemetery.

Oh, my goodness, you hit a hospital.

So, cut 19. As you know, President Biden, the U.S., they take the position that this was not an Israeli strike, but the result of other Palestinian militants. Do you believe that to be the case? Sir, nobody's buying that narrative in this part of the world. In reality, the Israeli army is not very credible in this part of the world as well.

The only way that people would entertain a different narrative is if there is an independent international inquiry. Really?

So this guy read into some of the leading intelligence from our Pentagon. They heard our president. He's not buying it. You know, the most disappointing part is that typically Jordan has been a fairly reliable source of information and ally for the United States. Jordan has always been someone that we lean on and go to to be a great intermediary.

You know, Israel and Hamas can't start negotiating. That's never going to happen. Those aren't gonna those talks aren't gonna happen.

So if there's any talks to be had, if there's any reason to be put to this thing, you need the Jordanians, you need the Egyptians to be the voice of reason. And again, them not acknowledging the realities of some of these horrors just Provide a lot of other insecurity on all the forthcoming discussions.

So it's a domino effect going in the wrong direction right now. I mean, we'll see where it plays out, but this is we're in for the long haul here. And then, you know, we haven't even brought up Iran in this conversation. I mean, that's just looming out there. It's not going away.

They're the drivers behind a lot of this, behind the funding, behind the organization. They're what effectively empower these monsters to do what they do because they feel like ultimately they'll be backed by giant regimes. And why? Because they now have access to their money. Because the Biden administration has let Iran get access to all of their oil money.

Their holdings have gone from whatever $4 or $5 billion to $70, $80 billion, just increasing, and that can all be now funded and used any which way that Iran wants. And none of it is in America's interest. Governor Sununu, our guest, and he better mention Iran tonight in this speech where he's wasting our time. We found out, just come to share this information with the audience from just tuning in. Jim Jordan's not trying another round.

So far, Are they going to get behind having Patrick McHenry be the temporary speaker to be able to get legislation going? And Jordan said he's not giving up, he's just not going to do it again. Your quick reaction was: I want to get you on 2024, too. Yeah, look, we got to, they got to, if McHenry is the answer, then that's the answer. They got to have an answer.

And I've been supportive. I was supportive, very supportive of McCarthy until the idiot 8 got involved and tried to blow that up. They're the ones that really created this captivating problem. I got behind Scalise when the conference got behind him. I got behind Jordan when the conference got behind him.

So they need leadership. And this is the real problem, if I may, for the Republican Party. The average Republican right now looks at D.C., they don't even know what the problem is. Nobody really understands the intricate details of what's happening.

So not only is there a crisis of leadership in Washington for the Republican Party, they can't explain it to the rest of America.

So we look broken, and this is the long-term problem. Independents won't come along with us. Whether you're in a school board race, a governor's seat, or running for president, if you don't get independents galvanizing with You're not winning, right? Because you don't win without those guys.

So, by showing fracture and not being able to explain it, it shows it doesn't give any confidence to independents to get on board with our tickets. It's unbelievable. These guys do politicians for a living, politics for a living. They don't understand that there are moderates, there are conservatives, there are liberals, they don't understand that there's different districts where it takes to get a majority. I mean, do they ever have social studies?

If I may, the system's been designed so they don't have to care anymore. Jerry Manbring has Being primarily by ultra-extremists, you have no term limits, which you should have term limits to put some more independent inter I understand. It was all compound to leave people in their safe districts, but I just also thought they wanted power and may have influence. But, Governor, I've got to talk about 2024. It looks as though the big stories today is Mike Pence is $600,000 in debt.

It looks as though he's having trouble registering. And Governor Christie, zero debt, working hard to get on the stage again. We have Senator Tim Scott as donors holding off for him because they want to see him make a move. And Governor DeSantis has tapped out some of his big donors. Governor Haley seems to have momentum, but still trailing Trump by 40 points.

How do you see this race?

Well, the race is playing out the way it should, and that these are all great candidates, but the field is naturally narrowing down for a variety of reasons. It'll be interesting to see. I think the third debate is going to be really impactful because there's only going to be, I think, four, maybe five candidates on that stage tops. They're going to have more airtime. They're going to have more time to interact.

And that's going to be a stronger message of what they're about and what they're really going to bring to the table. I think there'll be a lot of folks on the ballot in Iowa, New Hampshire, but the key is that 98% of the votes go to the top three or four. And then as you go into Super Tuesday, and we have till then, if you get that to a one-on-one race, then the Republican Party really has an opportunity to move forward. And look, Trump had some good policies. He had some good ideas.

I'm not this big anti-Trump guy. His foreign policy looks better every day. Oh, well without a doubt, but we just w A lot of these other candidates carry those same foreign policy ideals and they carry the right ideals for Americans' domestic policy. But as opposed to Trump, they can fulfill on them, right? We need a balanced budget.

We need fiscal discipline. We don't just want to talk about it. We need to actually bring it to the table. And I think as more and more people get engaged kind of post-to-Thanksgiving, that's when about a third of the Republican base will really decide who they're voting for. Still plenty of time for movement, whether it's Nikki Haley, DeSantis, some of these others potentially.

But to your point, the realities of their campaigns, the restrictions on those campaigns are coming to bear, whether they be financial or just not great polling numbers.

So there's a natural narrowing of the field happening, and that's a good thing for the whole process. Yeah, I just think that when you see the president wrestling with the wall now, then when you see what's happening with Israel and you think who is stronger on Israel, then when you think that who is stronger on China, when you think about a guy that wanted to build up defense and be tougher on Iran, if the president, the former president, is smart and he has pretty good political instincts. He'll just stop talking about 2020 and will just say, This is what I did, this is what I'll do. And if he did that, it would be tough. Nikki Haley's been really strong.

But my problem is, I like all these guys. They're all talented. They're all friends. Yeah, they're all great people. They're all incredibly talented.

Look, Nikki's campaign has come on really strong, especially here in New Hampshire. Her debate performances have been gritty. They've been tough. They've been clear. She's, I think, if anything, I think there was a campaign in the early spring that looked stagnant and now looks completely energized.

And, you know, DeSantis is holding his own as well. I'm going to be with Ron next week here in New Hampshire, doing a lot of retail politics with them as well.

Now, I haven't endorsed anyone. I'm just trying to help them all be the best retail politicians they can be. I believe if you're a good retail politician, you can look someone in the eye, that means you're going to carry that same type of mentality into the White House.

So we'll see what all bears out. But I feel very optimistic the Republican Party still has a chance to be in great shape as we come through the presidential. And, Governor, I hope whoever, if a Republican wins, I hope they tap you to do something because you're way too talented and way too conversant in this stuff and knowledgeable to sit on the sidelines. Although I know you probably want to buy your ski resort. resort and go hang out with your down with your down vest.

I don't know if I want to be leashed. I like being unleashed. I like knowing I'm not running for anything. I can just speak my mind, do what I want, use a couple F-bombs when I have to, and not worry about putting anyone in a tough position. All right, that's right.

It sounds like my life.

So that's all good.

So I'll enjoy it. Governor, thanks so much. Governor Chris Nunu, Governor of New Hampshire. Thank you. Thank you, buddy.

When we come back, I see about nine phone calls up there. I'm going to do the best I can to get to it. Don't move. It's Brian Kilmade. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin.

It's Brian, kill me. President Si Shi and President Putin. I mean, clearly, the Russians know the Middle East very, very well. The Chinese less so. But what they're doing is they're sitting on the sidelines, signaling their support for the Palestinians, not completely backing away from Israel, but very clearly signaling their support, calling for a ceasefire.

Why are they doing that?

Well, you know, clearly they have security and economic interests in the Arab world. Just look at, for example, Russia's relationship with OPEC. But on top of that, they also see an opportunity to double down on the message that they've been trying to kind of spread around the world over these years, which is the decline of the US.

So Putin yesterday, just yesterday, trying to claim that the US giving weapons to Ukraine will prolong the agony in Ukraine. That's what Putin said. The same kind of message with Israel. You know, the US supporting Israel just makes everything worse.

So to understand what Russia and China were trying to do here, even. if plainly we don't agree with it. That is Cure Simmons, Bright Guy. He's on another network, Chief Intelligence Correspondent. We're going to talk to Josh Rogan on the next edition of.

For the Washington Post, on the next edition of the Brian Kilmeat Show, just about that, what China was up to, but we're focused on the Middle East. John in California. Hey, John. Good morning, Brian. Hey, I wanted to talk about the $89 billion we spend on intelligence every year and the lack of intelligence that we have.

They missed Afghanistan. If it was up to our country, they would have abandoned Ukraine in the first week of the war, and now they're missing Israel. And then one other point, I think, back when Russia, Iran, and China were getting cozied up, they have a plan. They're executing it right now. And watch out for China in the future to achieve their military objectives before this president leaves office, hopefully in 2024.

I mean, there's a theory out there that Hamas did meet with Lavrov in Russia to try to get us distracted from Ukraine, but Ukrainians aren't getting distracted. Just the world is pulling away from that a little bit. I don't think it's really hurting the fight. But then China, coordinating with Russia, gets us focused on the Middle East. What did we say two weeks ago?

We were saying that the new focus is going to be the The Pacific. And now, what are we doing? Three aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf heading over. Most of our Navy's heading over there. This would be their opportunity to capitalize.

Julie, listening on FM News Talk 97.1. Julie. Hey, Brian. Hey, in about 30 days, we are facing another government shutdown, and we cannot coalesce around any speaker. I am predicting a Democrat will be elected speaker because any day people are going to start shrieking about needing to fund the government.

You can hear it already. Can you? It looks like they're going to push Julie to Patrick McHenry as Jordan drops out temporarily. But do we have the votes? I think they do.

Some people are still trying to avenge Kevin McCarthy and are still supporting him. I know, but you know what I'm hearing? They'll do it, and it looks like some of the problem solvers will get behind it.

So you're right. I can't rule it out. I'm not going to predict it, but Julie, that is a worry of mine, too. But I can never see even the most moderate Republican going for Hakeem Jeffries. Brian killed me, show.

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