Biden speaks in Israel as Arab leaders CANCEL meetings with him

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmey Show on a day in which Israel is at war, and we're watching Lebanon, our embassy in Lebanon, some fire on the perimeter there. There's people being hurt.

Protests are happening. We know fires happened last night. This uprising because Hezbollah called for a day of rage because they say that Israelis, the IDF, blew up a hospital in Gaza. Listen, it's war. They started with the carnage, but they had nothing to do with it.

Even Al Jazeera came out and said this was an errant rocket from Islamic Jihad. But when you see an American embassy under siege, people throwing rocks, trying to break through, setting fires, you immediately think about 1979 or you think about Benghazi. What about Governor Ron DeSantis, who wants to get the Republican nomination for president of the United States and be the next president of the United States joining us now? Governor, I don't know if you're able to, you're near a screen at all or by your phone watching, but you're seeing these protests outside our embassy in Lebanon. We got some Marines.

On the inside, but that's a scary situation. Yeah, no doubt. But I think a lot of that has been fueled by what you pointed out. You had media organizations jumping the gun. pursuing a narrative about this hospital.

But I'll basically take The word of Hamas for it, that this was somehow an IDF. when in fact it was a rocket fi uh Fired by Palestinian Islamic Jihad that misfired and hit the hospital. And so the media ran with that. That stove. a lot of uh rage throughout the region.

Yeah. False.

So I think this shows. Israel what they're up against because They obviously have to conduct operations to be able to eliminate Hamas. And eliminate that threat once and for all, but they are going to be fighting in an environment. where so much of the media is going to be arrayed against them, so much of the intelligentsia internationally, United Nations. these different things.

And it's just important that America stays. With them, have moral clarity. and say, you know what? They were the victims of this attack. Yeah.

to protect their people and they have a right to see this. Through. Yeah, I would think so. Governor, so we'll see that, what's going on. We also see some uprisings on the West Bank.

Hezbollah has daily skirmishes with the IDF on the north, and in the south, I think the land invasion was probably put off because President Biden came to town. Here's what President Biden said this morning when he arrived: cut one. Mr. Prime Minister, thank you very much.

Well folks, uh I wanted to be here today. Uh For a simple reason. I want the people of Israel the people of the world. to know where the United States stands. I've had my great Secretary of State here.

He's been here for a lot. But I wanted to personally come. And make that clear. Was it the right message?

Well, it's interesting, Brian. Because you know, they will say U.S. stands with Israel, but what are they doing behind the scenes? What they're doing behind the scenes is really trying to restrain Israel. They want to be able to continue.

They want to be able to continue attempts to have a reproach. with Iran. They have not done anything. to snap sanctions on Iran. They haven't done things to dry up some of the money that Iran's been sending to the Middle East.

I think that they're behind the scenes making life more difficult for Israel to be able to conduct the operations that are going to be necessary to. To bring this problem to a conclusion once and for all. I mean, if you go in, just do some glancing blows, do some damage. You know, Hamas will come back and then they're going to do it again.

So we've got to stop the cycle. And I don't think privately the administration is doing what is conducive to that. I think they're more of a hindrance to Israel at this point. Right. And before he got on board, and one time when he was in the air, he found out that Egypt, Jordan, and the Palestinian Authority have all refused to see him because they said the hospital attack by the IDF, which didn't happen.

So what do you do if it's Governor DeSantis, President DeSantis? You decide to go to Israel, but you want to do some diplomacy with our so called allies outside the Palestinian Authority, and they tell them we don't want to see you. Should he have turned around?

Well, here's the thing. I'm not sure it was a good idea to go there and inject yourself. Uh into A situation like that. I mean, we can Without doing that, when the President shows up, it creates all kinds of complications. I mean, for example, we've been rescuing people from Israel.

One of our flights now is on hold. because of the airspace. issues with Biden. creates a whole host of complications. You put yourself in a situation Where it's a very I would be doing it.

probably from the White House. I would be working with Egypt and Jordan. I mean, they're allies. I think it's interesting. that they don't want anything to the Gaza Strip.

Going into their countries. I mean, you would think that this. has been a cause celeb throughout the Arab world for some The Israelis and the Palestinians. And yet they say absolutely zero, not one refugee. And I think that that's instructive because I think that they view those refugees as creating a problem.

for their society. If they were due, that's why I came in. I was the first president. presidential candidate to set We are not bringing to the United States these Palestinian Arabs if they leave the Gaza Strip. I know there are people in the United States.

like the squad and people on the That are saying we should import a million people. from the Gaza Stretch. That's a total non-starter. We will not do any when I'm president.

Well, I mean, and people were upset by that. Margaret Brennan was taking you on on Face the Nation on Sunday. She obviously didn't like that. I don't think she's in sync with the American people. I think there are more Democrats now getting involved and saying, what the hell is going on at our border now and who is coming through?

And also, Brian, you know, the point that Brennan was trying to make, and then Nikki Haley tried to make it this weekend of the She's Back. Is that well, you know, you have some people with. Hamas, but then you have others that are more interested in freedom and all this stuff, and that's actually. not the question Obviously, you wouldn't import a terrorist, but if you're importing people from Gaza that have been taught to hate Jews. That don't believe Israel.

Israel has a right to exist, that think that Israel needs to be destroyed. We're importing pathologies. From that part of the world to Country, and that's not in the interest of the American people. The American people. Will not benefit from that.

So so I've said absolutely not.

Now I agree with you. I think most Americans Americans, Republicans, independents, and now even a lot of Democrats. Uh When you see Of these protests and these demonstrations in our own country when the blood wasn't even dry. from these Israelis. Who were massacred over there.

You had people taking to the Hamas, in defense of Hamas. How do we get to that? point where that happened. Yeah. Seriously, who's coming into our country?

Yes, illegally across the border, but who are we intentionally importing with some of the things that have happened? happened over the last many years and so So that's the right decision. Yeah. The elites don't care about the American people. They have their own agenda, so elite media.

and other elites in government, they would have a different view than me. But my view, I think, is What has support from broad cross-sections of the American public?

So, you know, Governor Santis, the thing that surprised me most about this whole thing has been the protests. I mean, I walked down Times Square six blocks from where I am right now, and there's a huge rally in support of what Hamas did in New York City. And it didn't stop there. There were two more. Yesterday, there were dueling protests pro-Hamas, pro-Israel at Washington Square Park in New York City.

You know what's happening all over the country, and now you have an Ivy League background. You got Yale and Harvard in your background. Both colleges seem to have professors and student bodies that are pro-Palestinian, pro-Hamas. How does that happen? It's unbelievable.

You know, I I I joke with people, I say, you know, on the campaign trail, I'm like, Look, I'm one of the few people that have gotten through Harvard and Yale, and came out more conservative than when I went in. And that's not easy to do because of the leftist. But I will say As left as it was. when I was going through that and I rejected it and it kind of made me more conservative. It's gotten a lot worse.

Um in the last couple days. I mean, it's gotten to the point, you know, I don't think after 9-11 Yeah. Ivy League campuses praising what had happened, praising the Terrorists or doing anything like that.

Now you have pretty. Protesters praising brutal terrorists on those campuses, signing letters, and I think it's And indeed these Businesses should be doing that. If there are students that are signing that in defense of Hamas, they get offers of employment rescinded, they get fired from internships. And all those other things. That's a no-brainer.

I mean, just imagine how. Ivy League University. you know, would respond or how they've responded. Mm-hmm. uh in other situations This one is one of the most agreeable.

things you can imagine. Yep. quiet with it. Yeah. Brian, in Florida, if you look at the statements that were Put out by the University of.

Florida president, Florida state president. You know, they came out very strongly against Hamad. often very strongly in favor of Israel and our Jewish students. And I was proud to see that. We've worked really hard to get.

nation centers and focusing on the classic mission, classical mission of pursuing truth and preparing our kids to be citizens of the Republic. And I think you see it paying off. and how they responded to this. Last farm on policy question. You know, we know Iran is our real enemy.

We know Iran is the enemy of most in the Middle East. That is what the Abraham Accords were based off of: a common enemy, Iran, not Israel.

So, having said that, you've seen the re-approachment from the Biden administration. From now on, if you got this ball in the Middle East, which is a ball of fire right now, knowing Iran finances Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, as well as Hamas. And who knows what other group. And Wall Street Journal says they orchestrated this whole thing using their Revolutionary Guard force, Salamani's replacement, and they did it in Beirut. And there's been no pursuit to find out about the genesis of that story.

How do you handle this without causing a world war, or do you risk it?

Well, look, you assume that this could not have happened without Iranian patronage. I mean, the idea that this is even a question Uh is a joke. Of course they've done that. In the last 25 years, overwhelmingly has been. I mean when I was It was in Iraq.

serving on active duty, there was a lot of attention on the SUNY jihad. The Al-Qaeda in Iraq, and they were a But most of our own combat deaths at the time. were from Iranian-funded militias. people that were directed by Sula Maria.

So they have a lot of American blood. on their hands. Route bombing and a marine. in 83. They funded Hezbollah and that.

This is just what they do.

So what Biden needs to do. reverses policies that have given sustenance. To the regime, put them in a financial. The That's one of the reasons I want to increase our energy production at home because When we're energy dominant, That's bad for Russia. Russia, Iran, China, and Venezuela.

If you pursue it. Green New Deal in this country, just understand you are benefiting. Iran. You are benefiting Russia. You are benefiting China.

So reversing the nation's energy. policy And dominant, I think, is very important. I think it's choking. Yeah. on that.

Yeah. Getting a soda. I think it's complicated now given what's going on. But I think Biden dropped the ball on that. He could have done it.

Yeah. year that creates the front of the golf area. Arab states, Israel, and the United States. Against a rain. Yeah.

for the Iranians to do what they want to do in the region. Yeah. Have you qualified for the debates already? Oh yeah, yep.

So you're in the going to be in the fourth debate, and you've got a field of about eight right now. Third debate. Third debate. So we got the third debate.

So, what do you think, what is the game plan to close in the gap with the former president?

Well, one, I think, just the fact that That he's been missing an action on the So much of this. stuff. And I don't think that that's what I'm doing. I'm seeing on the ground in Iowa and New Hampshire. think you have to earn their vote.

Uh so I'm showing up not only at debates, but I'm Do I have done eighty of the ninety nine counties in Iowa? I'm going to do all 99. I'll be the only candidate to do that. That and we're starting a big New Hampshire push with the town halls and everything.

So that's really what you. What you have to do. You know, on this issue, what we've seen here, you know, I've been leading on it. We led on the refugees.

Now every candidate's followed suit. Yeah. Planning the flag says, Don't send aid to the Gaza Strip. All that's going to do is Hamas is going to commandeer that, and they're going to use. That you seek the release of hostages and the unconditional defeat of Hamas, and that should be our focus, not sending money that they're going to be.

able to use.

So we're really leading on these issues. I think the debate will show. that we've been able to Lead on these issues, and look, people are going to have to. Make a judgment.

Now that we're getting closer. you are seeing more voters pay closer attention. And I think the question is. You know, we've got to win this election. 2024.

I've got a great record of political success. But more importantly than that, we've got to deliver on all these things. Yeah. Yeah. Remember, that was Donald Trump's number one promise.

And uh had he guilty? Mexico. Pay for it. Biden would not have been able to get away with all the nonsense he's done.

So we've got to deliver, and I have a record of delivering on 100% of my promises. Governor and away. that no governor has been able to do. We'll do the same thing as president. I think that's what people want to see.

But as you know, Paul Ryan gave him $1.4 billion. He had to repurpose defense funds because nobody came across for him.

Well, that's the thing. But yeah, but Brian, are you a leader or not? Do you get things done or you're not? I mean, that's an excuse that, oh, You know, that you had a Republican Congress. You're the leader.

You need to deliver this. This should have been a He should have declared it a national emergency. Mm-hmm. Yeah. could have repurposed Fonsand.

want if he wanted to do it. Could have told Paul Ryan, I'm not doing it. Your tax. Bill, I'm not doing anything until you deliver what we need to do. And he didn't turn those screws.

on them. turned the legislative Agenda over to Ryan, and Ryan didn't want a wall. Brian was a pre-Trump Republican. an establishment Republican. He is weak on immigration.

So that was a, that's, you know, it's all about leaders.

So, are you delivering the results? Or not, and like, I don't want to be in a situation where. We're making excuses again about why things haven't gotten done. You have to find a way to get things done. I know you're busy, but on Sunday, 60 Minutes did a whole feature on immigration.

You know what they focused on? The flights to Martha's Vineyard. Do you think they are targeting you because of the way you went back at them when they tried to nail you on the vaccines? I I didn't w I don't watch sixty minutes, so I didn't I didn't see what was happening but um you know Yeah. Uh covered themselves in glory.

With a lot of the things that they've done. When they tried to target me over the COVID stuff, it really blew up in their face. And so, you know, I think they've lost a lot of credibility over the years. All right, Governor, what's your final message? I know you've got to run.

No excuses in 2015. We got to get the job done. I'll get the job done and I won't let you down. As president. Thanks.

He's going to be hard to outwork, I'll tell you that. Governor Ande Santis, thanks so much. You got it, 1-866-408-7669. When we come back, I'll take your calls. Bottom of the hour, Katie Pavlich, we're watching what's going on in three separate screens.

We got some rioting over in Beirut outside our embassy. We got the West Bank where there's some protests because it calls for a day of rage, and a lot of focus on the border. Will there be a place for Palestinian refugees, non-Hamas, to get out into Egypt? Because Jordan doesn't want them, and Egypt doesn't want them. Who's going to be stuck with him?

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Subscribe and listen now by going to FoxNewsPodcasts.com. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. First of all, it's sad when a hospital is struck or explodes and people die that aren't related to combat. That's categorically first thing.

Second thing, we never target hospitals. Third thing, we analyzed the events that occurred around that hospital and according to our military intelligence analysis, what happened was that it was a failed rocket that was fired by the Islamic Jihad, a smaller but very lethal terror organization in the Gaza Strip. They fired a rocket, it misfired, exploded and landed on the hospital and that is what happened. That's exactly what happened. You know who else knows that?

They have transcripts of the exchange with Islamic Jihad. They were able to pick it up, not transcript, they would actually pick up the audio of them communicating with each other, saying, basically, what was that? I cannot believe it. You shot it from the cemetery? Yeah, you shot it from the cemetery.

Look what it hit. Oh my God, look what it hit.

So. The IDF didn't do it. They supplied that. They supplied video saying, listen, there's no way an aerial strike when we weren't in the area provided that. We didn't do it.

And that got out. You know who retweeted it and put it out there, if the translation's correct, and said it was Islamic Jihad? Al Jazeera.

So the king of Jordan cancels with our president. The president of Egypt cancels with our president. The Palestinian Authority cancels the meeting with the president because the Islamic Jihad blew up their own hospital. That is such an insult to the country. And they get billions from us, billions.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Killmeat Show. Paging. My traditional Republican Congress. colleagues.

It's time to get off the sidelines. Break away from the extremists. Get in the arena.

So we can find a bipartisan path forward. House Democrats. want to be reasonable here, but the Republicans are unable to function on their own right now. He's right. Hakeem Jeffries is 100% right.

And he went on to say, listen, I know we lost the election. We lost the majority. I admit it. The guy you're going to put his speaker didn't admit it, so he's able to play that card. Here we go again.

And you just imagine if you're him. You watch 14 rounds with Kevin McCarthy. Then you watch Matt Gates blow up Kevin McCarthy with only seven other people supporting him, 210 not supporting him. Then you wait two weeks for another vote. Then you find you think it's going to be Steve Scalise.

And Steve Scalise goes, it's not even worth taking a vote. I only got 100 and something supporters, and I'm losing him to Jim Jordan. And then Jim Jordan comes out there and gets 200 votes. He's 20 short.

So, what are you going to do? If you're a Keem Jeffers, you could look at the most mature guy in the room and Republicans only have themselves to blame. Katie Pavlich likes to go in be in between the numbers and use her sources to move this story forward. But Katie, do you expect to vote today for Jim Jordan? Or is he going to is he going to end up where he is right now?

Uh Well, the word is That there's been negotiations happening, you know, minute by minute, trying to twist arms and that they are going to come to the floor around 11 o'clock. About an hour and a half from now and continue these rounds of voting. Jim Jordan was pretty defiant in saying that he was willing to go multiple rounds, even if it took more than fifteen, as it took Kevin McCarthy the first time. And the question is, well, if he can't make it, Who is next for the nomination? And at some point, Republicans look at this and say, Who wants that job?

Who wants to be put up to be in the same position? And it keeps happening despite the fact that Jim Jordan came after Steve Scalise. Steve Scalise endorsed Jim Jordan. voted for them and yet still can't get them over the finish line.

So Republicans are in a position where they don't have a speaker. They can't move their agenda forward. They can't continue to aggressively pursue oversight of the Biden administration. They can't aggressively pursue a defense of Israel in the middle of a war that could escalate quickly to a regional war.

So they're in a bad spot. And I think it's interesting that Matt Gates has not volunteered to put his name up for speaker either. He would get three votes, probably, and maybe one of the eight. But most of those people just got in because they saw an opportunity. I don't think they could have forecast it'll be two weeks without one.

I remember Gates came around and said, wait a second, what do you mean waiting a week to have a vote? McHenry came, the temporary speaker, and he said, I don't know why we're waiting. We should have a vote right away. He didn't even understand what he did. Couldn't possibly have a vote right away.

We had no idea who had consensus or not to even push it forward. What message did they have? What would Steve Scalise do? Was he healthy enough to do it? What would Jim Jordan do as speaker that Kevin McCarthy couldn't?

After all, he was supporting him.

So evidently, people didn't like behind the scenes, like the New York delegation and people like Congressman Bacon didn't like behind the scenes that they were being threatened. I guess it was an email to Bacon's wife saying your husband's career is over if he doesn't go for Jim Jordan.

So that made everyone's head get bent out of shape. Giamandi Yeah. Jamandez, what's it? Yemenez over in Florida. Yeah, Yemenz over in Florida.

He also said it was personal with him.

So I don't know what's going to change it, except maybe an apology. I'm not sure much is going to change. You know, Republicans have this problem where they are staunchly against the people that they are nominating. They got around to endorsing Kevin McCarthy. He won the nomination eventually.

The problem was that he gave into this rule of vacating the chair. And then other Republicans joined with Matt Gates to do that, including Let's not forget all of the Democrats voted to create this problem as well. It's not just a Republican problem. All the Democrats voted to oust. The Republican speaker on behalf of eight or so Republicans.

So, in terms of whether this changes or not, The numbers look like they're not changing. There's been word that people who are voting still against Jim Jordan have not liked the tactics that have been deployed by his team to try and threaten rather than convince that he can get the job done and negotiate what these members of Congress may want out of a new speaker. In terms of who's next, there's been some talk about the current Speaker Tim Forer being maybe the next name since he's essentially been in the temporary job for a couple of weeks now. But it was no surprise when all this went down that it was going to take a while. I mean, I had heard that it may take months to get a new speaker because people can't agree on who it should be.

And then, as I already mentioned, people don't want the job. I mean, it's not a job that a Republican goes into and comes out in a popular fashion. I mean, John Boehner did not leave the position popular. Paul Ryan went into the position after people begged him to be the speaker. He did not want the job.

He took one for the team and went in and did it. And left very unpopular.

So it's not the best position for someone to be in if they're trying to be popular. And at some point, given there's so many people with different interests, naturally, not everybody is going to be satisfied with the decisions that have to be made. But there's been a lot of talk, too, of the fact that Republicans aren't understanding that in the House things are. a team sport when it comes to moving an agenda forward, not and it shouldn't be based on personal animus. But here they are, and we'll see what happens at eleven o'clock today.

As I mentioned, Jim Jordan had said previously, he's willing to be on the floor as long as it takes to get the votes. There has been a lot of criticism as well from constituents that a lot of these ballots that are going around in committee with these voting before they bring it to a floor to try and avoid some embarrassing mess in public, people don't like that. They don't like that there's secret balloting going on. They don't like the debate over who should be in charge of the speakership. Is not out in the public, so that could also be coming up as a problem with these lawmakers as well as constituents call in and want more transparency about the process.

I mean, the New York delegation says it might be too much of a risk to vote for Jim Jordan. I never thought a speaker vote would risk somebody politically. It's not like you're voting for a tax hike or a Joe Biden pat on the back, but evidently they're saying it's a bit of a risk. And I think Congressman Diaz Bosito voted for Lee Zeldon. I mean, what are you doing if you vote for Lee Zeldon?

What do you Kev McCarthy said? Don't vote for me. I'm putting my vote in for Kevin McCarthy. Steve Scale says, I'm done. I'm putting you know that you are blowing up your own power in the White House.

Why are you even there? Like, are you. I'm just flabbergasted these people are so short sighted.

Well, look, I I not really clear on What the risk to Jim Jordan having Jim Jordan to speakership is. I'm not sure. Maybe it's that they feel like he's not moderate enough, that he came in on the Tea Party wave, has been a rival rouser in Congress. Maybe he isn't as middle of the road that they would like. I'm not sure.

But they're going to have to calculate. the risk calcul the calculation is of the risk of Looking like they can't govern, not having a speaker for weeks and weeks on end. Or choosing someone for leadership to be in a speaker's position. And to negotiate some terms so they have more say about the way things go in the future.

So that's the decision they have to make. In the meantime, as you mentioned already, the Democrats and Hakeem Jeffries. are you know, parading themselves out after voicing the House into this position with their votes. As the adults in the room, the people who can govern, the people who have one nominee as they go to the floor with these votes and the Democrats all nominate Hakeem Jeffries rather than nominating a series of people they haven't decided on.

So that's what people are watching. I do think that while the speaker's race doesn't necessarily interest everyday Americans who are concerned about getting to work, high gas prices, inflation, concerned about the national security now with what's happened in the Middle East. And everything else that Americans deal with on a daily basis, education, for example, I do think the longer this drags out, The more that they will pay attention to it and be dismayed again at how Washington is functioning. I want you to hear what Newt Gingrich said: cut 20. Excuse me, cut 30.

I'd be for 15 votes, frankly, to bring McCarthy back. But the fact is, I have no faith. That you can put this together right now.

Now, again. If I'm all for Jordan having an opportunity tomorrow, I hope he can win. I'd much rather have a new speaker than have a speaker pro tem. But I wrote my newsletter on the grounds that my hunch is That 200 votes is about what he's going to get. 200 votes is much higher than Scalise got, and Scalise was the majority leader.

And my sense from talking to people in the House tonight is that in the next vote, he might actually get fewer, not more, votes. If that happens, we can't sit around. and suck our thumbs and hope the world will wait until the House Republicans get their rack together. Every day we're closer to the end of the continuing resolution. Every day we're closer to a huge age package for Israel that has to be passed.

So that's where he stands, and it makes Republicans look bad. I want to get KD Pavlich to weigh in on the 2024 campaign. RFK Jr., since he decided to be an Independent, they did a quick poll, and it turns out he takes more votes from President Trump than Biden. Does that surprise you? Do you think it's accurate?

It does not surprise me. I'm not sure it is accurate, but I think it is a reflection of how people in this country feel about the choices that they've been presented with in the 2024 election. And RFC Jr. is a smart guy. He looked at the way that the DNC was handling the Democratic primary and circling the wagons around Joe Biden, despite the fact that Democrats have said they want someone else to be running and said, I'm going to run as an independent.

He has, you know, he has positions on a variety of different issues that are not conservative, but they are. popular and they are populists in some ways. And you know, people who maybe are not thrilled with the way that the Repub Republican field has gone either are looking for a third option. You have to remember the independents in this country are the largest Middle that we've seen ever. There are more people saying that they don't fit into the Democrat-Republican Party than we've ever seen before.

So they're taking a look at him. That can obviously change. But certainly the Trump campaign cannot be happy about it, and he'll probably be seeing a new nickname for him.

Soon to be a very good person. He's a former president. Yeah, head to head. With RFK in the race, Biden beats Trump by seven. Here's what Trump told me last week about RFK.

Well, he's a Democrat. I think it's probably helpful of me. I think he's a Democrat. Look, he's a Kennedy. Number one, you put the name Kennedy, that's a Democrat.

But if you look at his environmental stance, he closed up New York. He wouldn't let pipelines go through to Massachusetts and various other places go through New York State. He was very, very tough. He was brutal on the environment. He actually destroyed Andrew Cuomo.

He actually destroyed him because Andrew Cuomo wouldn't do a thing without his approval. And New York State got left behind. The environmental stuff that he approved is is just terrible.

So now he's a Democrat. I think it's probably very good for us. I mean, who knows? I mean, you'll tell me, we'll talk about it next November.

So we'll see. He's got his eye. One thing about Trump, he has his opposition research down. You bring up an opponent, he knows where to attack and where their vulnerabilities are.

Well, I mean, that's he's absolutely right. I mean, R.R.K. Jr. has been sold as this moderate, right? This person who is willing to be not as far left as the Democrats.

But he actually is very far left on a number of issues. President Trump mentioned his position on climate change. He is very much for shutting down American energy, which of course puts the United States into a more vulnerable position economically, but also in terms of national security and foreign policy. He is for using taxpayer money to bail out student loans, especially now for these students who go to these Ivy League schools who are signing proclamations that it's basically fine to kill Jews and their children inside of their homes.

So he is very, very liberal. He has good positions on medical freedom and allowing people to make their own choices when it comes to what goes into their body. And he's against vaccine mandates. That's a very good thing. But otherwise, he is a Democrat.

And quite frankly, his positions on a lot of these issues are not mainstream or moderate. They are very far left. Yeah. So look for the Trump team to push back and maybe every Republican candidate. Katie, interesting times in Washington and around the world.

Katie Pavlich, thank you. Indeed. Thanks, Brian. Great to talk with you. You got it.

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Jordan. Bacon. McCarthy. Dumbass.

So I was on set about numbered. We were taking the vote live. And the sky votes Congressman Bacon doesn't vote for Jim Jordan, and it just makes after the two weeks to think about where Republicans were at. We watched him get lose 20, but that was the first. I did not know my mic was open.

But next thing you know, by the time I walk upstairs, outnumbered, my seventh hour of broadcasting, my last words. We're dumbass. Those were the words that were being carried everywhere. Everyone's like, wow, your mic was open, your mic was open. My mic was open for six hours and fifty eight minutes.

Nobody cared what I said. But I say one word on an off mic moment and everyone's like, wow. Can't believe you said that. No one's really upset that I said it. No one said I'm wrong that I said it.

I am stunned. I've never seen somebody commit political suicide, a group of people commit political suicide like this. And then after two weeks of therapy, people going home on their own and coming back. They're still doing the same thing. Is it crazy?

It's crazy, it's disappointing, especially with everything going on on in the world at the same time. Like, it's like what is the answer? Um, but but yes, it that is very funny. People are always like at the edge of their seat for what you're gonna say, Brian. Right.

I just had the edge of my seat, unless I say that like a hot mic moment. That's where I feel. I could not be more frustrated. And when you watch Hakeem Jefferies basically sound like Mr. Logic, who out there is a moderate or independent who says we'd be so much better off with a A guy you know, a guy that's so cool headed and seems so reasonable.

We have no idea if he's reasonable. We know his background. He is way to the left. He's another New York uh d left wing Democrat. Good looking guy, very well composed, great speaker, understands the answers to the questions and understands that to be politically correct.

But he just looks over to the right. And I think my analogy really works. It's like the World Series. The team goes into one team goes and takes the field and the other one starts fighting each other in the dugout. And after a while, these guys are like, are these guys going to come out and play?

Yeah, I don't like them. I want to beat them, but I can't, they should stop fighting each other so I can beat them. And now I don't even think, I actually think if you gave these guys sodium pentothal, I don't think they're happy about it. At all. Here's what Tudor Dixon said yesterday, Cut 31.

You know, I think we all agree that they need to come up with a speaker. They have the majority of people supporting Jim Jordan. They have 20 folks that decided that their personal agenda was more important. But this started two weeks ago when Matt Gaetz made this decision and he had no plan. This is why you don't do something like this without a plan.

There wasn't a camera he didn't want to have his face in front of last week, but I certainly haven't seen much of Matt Gaetz today. Last night he was saying he had it in single digits. We had 20 Republicans that did not choose Jim Jordan today. I certainly hope that with the state of the country and the state of the world, Republicans come together and tomorrow we can call Jim Jordan speaker.

Okay. Tudor Dixon can't figure it out. Either can I. Remember, she went to be governor of Michigan. I think she's a very successful podcaster now.

She goes all over the channel. It's true. It makes it harder for people like Congressman Rogers to be Senator Rogers in places like Michigan because it seems as though your party is so unreasonable. Even though I think they're for sure going to take the Senate if things stay this way, I thought they could hold on to the House. That seems to be slipping by.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City. Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kelmead. How fortunate am I? I mean, here we are, attention's at a world-time high, all-time high in the Middle East, and the Middle East are always a tense environment.

I come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan. We're heard around the country, around the world. But here in the Brian Kilmey Show, we have in studio, if you're smart enough to watch Fox Nation, General David Petraeus. His book is now out yesterday. It is now Wednesday.

It's called Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine.

Now we can maybe add in Gaza. That's General David Petraeus. Second edition, Brian. And Andrew Roberts. And Andrew Roberts, a genius.

He's been in here before. Great pairing, General. Who picked two? He proposed the idea. You know, this is his 20th book.

Wow. He's never had a co-author before. He's always done it himself. Right after the Russians invaded Ukraine, we know each other very, very well. We've done a number of events together around his books or various other things.

He's interviewed me on stage a number of times, and I've done the same. Uh and he Rung me up and he said we should p write a book together that provides the military historical context for Ukraine.

So it would be, again, the evolution of warfare from 1945 to now. As you note, yep, there's probably a second edition in the offing that will have to address this terrible current crisis that's ongoing that I'm sure we'll discuss. But it was his idea, and I thought, what a terrific opportunity. You know, I'd actually wanted to write something about Iraq and Afghanistan in particular, but not as a tell-all, but as a history. And what's interesting is the editor.

For those two chaps, I did those two chapters plus Vietnam, and then obviously back and forth with everything else very extensively. They said, you know, you can't write this in the third person the way you have. You can't write, and then General Petraeus went to see Prime Minister Maliki and raised these new concerns. You should do it in the first person. Those two chapters.

Unlike the rest of the book, traditional third person, it's written in the first person, and I wrote it. And so I was. Eager to do that, actually, and I welcome the opportunity to do that, and then obviously to review all these other cases. How important is it for an effective general to really understand military history? It's hugely important.

the lessons of history are not crystal clear. They're not always they're always different circumstances, situations, context. But from that, I think you get some very general important lessons. And the one we discussed on air earlier this morning Which we went back to the introduction and made even more explicit, which is the critical component of strategic leadership. A strategic leader is the person at the very top of a country or of a military coalition.

The strategic leader has to perform four tasks very well if you have a shot at winning. Get the big ideas right is task number one. The right strategy requires an understanding in depth of the context, of the strengths and weaknesses of your forces, air forces, the human terrain, all of this. You have to communicate the big ideas effectively throughout the breadth and depth of the organizations that you lead, country, military, command. The rest of the world has a stake in the outcome of the conflict.

You have to oversee the implementation of the big ideas, driving the campaign plan by what you do, your battle rhythm. Attracting great people, keeping them, allowing those not measuring up to move on, the metrics you use. The example, the energy, the inspiration you provide. And then the fourth task is to formally sit down and determine how you need to refine the big ideas so you can. repeat the process again and again and again.

And if you apply that to the current This current tragic situation Uh in the wake of this horrific Uh Violence, this barbaric violence visited on innocent Israeli civilians, over 1,300 of them now. As we understand it, Saturday a week ago, you then look at. The role of Prime Minister Netanyahu. He's the strategic leader here. He has a military.

Command as well, the Israeli Defense Force Chief of Staff, who will be the the strategic leader for the military effort. But he's got to get the big ideas right. There's one big idea out there right now. That is, we must destroy Hamas and also dismantle the Hamas political wing, if you will, because keep in mind they're not just a terrorist organization together with Islamic Jihad, Palestinian Islamic Jihad. They also have the The government essentially of the Gaza Strip, of the territory, that's the political wing.

But eighty-one percent of that is in poverty. Oh, it's just a problem.

So that's how terrible. It's just terrible. I mean, it's among the the most impoverished places in the world. But If you take that down, then what? And I am sure that the Israeli military leadership.

Um Based on lessons of history, some of which we learned the hard way. You know, if I asked, for example, in Kuwait prior to the invasion of Iraq, I was a two-star general then commanding the great 101st Airborne Division. And I said, excuse me, can you give us a little more detail on what happens after we get to Baghdad and topple the regime, the Saddam Hussein regime? And they said, look, you just get us to Baghdad, Dave. We'll take it from there.

Obviously, our post-conflict. Planning was inadequate. The assumptions that we had were invalidated. We then made some terrible mistakes. Bad big ideas, firing the Iraqi military without telling them how they're going to provide for their families and then.

Firing the Bath Party down to a level that included the bureaucrats we needed to run the country without an agreed reconciliation process.

So you created hundreds of thousands of individuals whose incentive was to oppose the new Iraq rather than support it.

Now, again, The Israeli Defense Force, keen observers of history. Saw that episode. It took us years to rebound from that. They are, I'm sure, asking, okay, Prime Minister, Got it. We can destroy Hamas.

Keep in mind, it's going to be very costly. It may take a good bit longer than people think. It depends. You truly cannot answer that question. No military.

Leaders should Other than to say it depends, and then lay out the factors on which it depends. But if you think of, How long did it take, again, lesson to history? How long did it take the Iraqi security forces with American support? To clear Mosul, a city of well over a million people at that time, of the Islamic State. By the way, Mosul was where my headquarters was as a two-star after the fight to Baghdad, so I know it well.

Took them nine months to do that fully. And again, you have to clear sequentially, progressively.

Now the Israeli Defense Forces Much more Well equipped. Better trained, more experienced, and all the rest of this, but still, this is not going to be. You know, a hundred-hour ground defense of like the first. My feeling is, too, I when you guys in Iraq, obviously the post the day after should have been planned better. No one said this out loud.

You know what my hunch is? You guys gave set up a no-fi zone for the Kurds. And they thrived. They set up a good government there. They really thrived.

You said, You give me protection from Saddam. I don't want to leave Iraq. I will go. But they thrived. And I thought with the exiles in your ear, not your ear, but the Bush and Cheney ear saying, we got it.

We get rid of Saddam. We'll be fine. We'll be greeted like liberators. After all, if they saw our power in 93, they were greeted as liberators in 93. We were greeted as liberators in 2003.

Saddam 53. They didn't love Saddam in a second. But they were mad at you for letting them get for not. For not supporting their uprising, correct? Under Bush 41?

Is that correct? We've been past that. Because keep in mind, we also had a no-fly zone for the southern part of Iraq. No, the Shia actually, when we came in, and again, I was part of that fight. We, in fact, we liberated the first Major city in Iraq during the fight to Baghdad, Najaf, the holiest city in Shia Islam, as you will recall, 400,000 people or so, give or take.

And again, I Tough fight, few days, all of a sudden the the Saddam Petein and others collapse. And I call my boss and I said, Hey boss, good news and bad news. Good news is we own Nausea. What's the bad news? Bad news is we own Nausea.

What do you want us to do with it? And again, this is the first inkling. That the post-conflict planning may have not been fully thought through. And he said, okay, we'll call those guys that said, you know, when you get to Baghdad, they'll take it from there. I said, okay, well, we're a little short of Baghdad, but how about taking this one over?

Uh and the problem was of course that It wasn't just that the Saddam elements collapsed. It was that all the government disappeared. Um even in this Shia city. Uh We were hoping the bureaucrats would stay around, that the police would stick around. You know, obviously, the military was either surrendering or.

deserting But it didn't happen.

So all of a sudden we owned it. And again, we had to leave an entire U.S. Army brigade of about 3,500, 4,000 troops to administer that.

Well, that's combat power that we would have liked to have had. When we went into Baghdad or later when we jumped up to Mosul. Eventually, we got them out of there. But it's this.

So it's the then what in Gaza. And this is even more challenging, more difficult. By the way, the military operations are not available. No, like you don't get up in the morning before 9-11 and say you knew Iraq was a problem. Clinton knew it was a problem.

Bush 41 knew that Saddam was not going away.

So I get it. But after 9-11, you have to quickly come up with a battle plan for Afghanistan. And then you thought Iraq is going to be a belligerent problem. Let's handle this now. We could discuss the nuances of it.

But for the Israelis, they probably do think about how do we get rid of Hamas. They do think about what if Hezbollah attacks, because it is the neighborhood they think about all the time. And I ask you, do you think that they are more prepared for what we do if Hamas is eliminated from Gaza than you guys were on what happens when Saddam is eliminated from Baghdad? I think this is actually even tougher. And let me lay this out.

First of all, I think the military. Does the elite have a plan? The military, I'm not sure. I think if they did, they would announce it. I think, in fact, there should be an announcement of not just Again, the big idea: we're going to destroy Hamas, which in itself, that tactical operation is going to be.

Just fiendishly difficult. Because they're going to hide. They're going to be honest. They're going to hide. They'll use human shields, civilians, the hostages.

There's nearly 200 of them. They'll be in tunnels, they'll have improvised if there is creative in the defense. As they were in the offense, this is going to be diabolically difficult. There are going to be very considerable casualties all around, including not just Israeli soldiers, but also innocent civilians and plenty of Hamas. Because, again, Hamas is an extremist organization.

These are not reconcilable people. They have two alternatives in life. They can come in with their hands up, or they're going to be captured for a reduced sentence, or they're going to be captured or killed. Um so but that's That's doable. It's going to be really, really hard, and the decision makers need to understand how hard and how costly and the damage and destruction that will be done to civilian infrastructure.

They've really got to figure out to whom do they give this. Again, remember that old adage: the pottery barn rules: you break it, you own it. They're going to break. not just Hamas, the extremist group. but also the political wing, So then who's going to administer the turdoid?

Keep in mind that the political wing Does social services. It provides basic services to the people. It runs schools. Everything. Healthcare.

Everything. Yeah. And so who is and- You don't have an answer to that. I know you're asking a rhetoric. Do you have an answer?

Is it possible you could have an interim international authority? I mean, it's possible because it's conceivable because we've obviously laid this out, but who could who could fund it? Who could lead it? Where are the what about the Arab countries in the region? Uh that Express Understandable concern about the plight of the Palestinian people.

This would be an incredible opportunity to do something about that. The problem there, though, Brian, is not even enough that you're just going to administer. This is not just going to be governance and nation building and, again, restoration of basic services, repair of damage, and all the rest of that. This is going to be. It's not Germany after World War II.

It's not. They're also going to have to fight a counterinsurgency. And they're going to fight Iran wants everything that you're just explaining. They don't want any part of it. They will do everything to make sure you're going to be able to.

They're going to fund the remnants of Hamas, of the Palestinian Islamic Shihad, anyone else. who will try to prevent this from happening. Just as they did not want to see the rapprochement, the extension of the Abraham Accords to Saudi Arabia, which would have been mutual recognition, which ironically I believe it would have included some assurances for the Palestinians in the West Bank. But so there has to be a vision of this component. The what next?

And by the way, I think it should address the Palestinian people not just in Gaza, but in the West Bank as well. Interesting. I mean, remember who they were talking about in the 90s and the 80s, have a bridge from Gaza to the West Bank. And they said, well, that was, then they find out that they thought Yasser Afra was too secular. And he also said, if I accept this deal, I'll be killed tomorrow.

A lot of people living on that. They say we take the whole country or nothing.

So Tom Warwick wrote in the New York Times today: this is the plan for AFTER. End Hamas's culture of economic corruption in Gaza in the heart of Hamas.

Okay, listen to what the Gaza residents want. Change the educational curriculum. Find a path for Gazans to write a constitution. Show Gazans that Israel is prepared to help. I'm all for all of that.

No, I'm for all of that. But that begs a very big question. Who's doing that? Right. No, I mean, this is the does the U.

S. have to do that? I'm for all these great these this is not overly idealistic, this is realistic, this is not outrageous, but who's going to oversee it? General Petraeus is here, very fortuitous for us, but his book is out. It's called Conflict: The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine.

And we're also tapping into his knowledge of the Middle East, as you see. The President of the United States is speaking now in Tel Aviv. He's supposed to leave soon and actually sleep in his bed tonight. Brian Kilmicho, don't move. You're with Brian Kilmead.

Okay. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. So the President of the United States gave a speech. We were on the air, but one of the things he brought up was the two-state solution is the only way.

The author of Conflict is with us, one of the co-authors of Conflict is with us, the evolution of warfare from 1945 to Ukraine, General David Petraeus and Andrew Roberts. The general is going to be with us all hour. General, this is going to be three or four minutes, but the president's remarks, two-state solution, I said to you, I think it's dead. You said it has, it can't be dead.

Well, there's no alternative. Tell me what what you would do otherwise. The status quo, by the way, is obviously not working. Right. If you have a one-state solution, if you draw the border all the way around to include Gaz in the West Bank, then The Jews in the Jewish Democratic State will be outvoted by Right.

So that's not sustainable. If you don't give them the right to vote, then there's going to be a lot of accusations about that that are quite predictable.

So you've got to figure out some way to make a two-state or even make it a three-state solution if you want to have Gaza separate and West Bank. Um and Neither element of these Palestinian entities, whatever they will be called, can allow extremists to populate in their midst that are going to do to Israel and Israelis what the Hamas extremists and Islamic Jihad extremists did Saturday a week ago. General, isn't it pretty amazing that Jordan wants nothing to do with the Palestinians, yet a lot of their population is Palestinian? They said Hashemites. That's why.

No, this is why. And Jim says the same thing.

So if you will, the Hashemites, you know, the Hashemite kingdom. Um those descendants are actually outnumbered in their country. By the Palestinian refugees, which causes again them enormous challenges when they're trying to structure elections and you have to. Ensure that, again, they're not going to, in a sense, lose control of their own country. I can't do the d definitive background of the 1978, what it was Iran was like in 1978, but if it was the old Iran, how much closer to peace in that region would they be?

It seems like Iran's behind Hezbollah, behind Hamas, behind Islamic Jihad, and their focus, obsession seems to be finding a way to throttle and destroy Israel. Obviously, UBS is not uh NBS is not the problem in Saudi Arabia. Obviously, Jordan and Egypt aren't the problem. Isn't Iran the problem? There's one of the great truths about the Middle East is that you have to be very clear about who your friends are.

and who your enemies are. And Iran is our enemy. Iran provided the explosively formed projectiles and other weapons that killed over 600 of our soldiers. uh during the period that I was commander there and and and engaged there. There's no question about their nefarious activities.

There's no question that they fund Hamas, even though, by the way, they're Shia and Hamas is Sunni. They also fund the Shia militias in Iraq and Syria, also in Lebanon, Hezbollah, obviously very formidable, the Houthis in Yemen, all of this. I want to get to history. I want to get to Ukraine, too, because we want to find out what we learned in the past, how it figures into the battlefield today, and how to solve some of our problems by looking at some of the mistakes in the past. Brian Kilmiche.

He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead. Part of the question on the issues of refugees coming to Jordan. And I think I can quite strongly speak on behalf not only. of Jordan as a nation, but of our friends in Egypt.

That is a red line. Because I think that is the plan by certain of the usual suspects to try and create de facto issues on the ground. No refugees in Jordan, no refugees in Egypt.

So thanks, King Abdullah of Jordan. It's great to have allies in the area who we give billions of dollars to, and Egypt, too. Billions of dollars to, just ask Senator Menendez with me right now in studios, General David Petraeus. His book's out yesterday. It's already doing great.

It's called Conflict: the Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine. General, that's what I would find endlessly frustrating if I'm President Biden. Not only does he not kind of take any refugees, and not only does Egypt not want to open up a quarter to let Palestinians through. But He also refused to meet with the President today over a bombing of a hospital, which all evidence now pointing to, including intercepts, that the IDF did not do. Same thing with the Egyptian President.

I mean, if I'm on a plane, if I'm the President of the United States, do I have a move? Do I just have to accept a snub?

Well, they're going to call them. They'll have conversations because, again, they need to, because they have to be part of the ultimate. Arrangement in Gaza that we've been talking about that is so difficult to construct. But we should understand again, other countries have domestic politics too, and the challenge in Jordan is that they're The descendants of the Hashemite tribes, which of course include the king. Are outnumbered in their country by the existing number of Palestinian refugees.

It's a huge drag and drain on their economy. They have no resources in that country. All they have is their wits and their human capital. There's no oil, no water, very little of anything. And they have to be incredibly innovative, creative, and everything else.

So they have a huge challenge. They can't take more. And then Egypt's economy is really quite moribund right now. He's facing re-election. There's no question about the outcome, I don't think.

But Again, they don't remember Egypt administered. Gaza for a period of time before the Israelis did for several decades. Nobody wants to do this. The Israelis left in 2005 for a reason. And now, what we need to do is find an interim authority.

That's going to go in there. And it does just doesn't do Good work for Deserving people, if you will, among the neediest people in the world, the Palestinian people who are caught in the middle of all of this, it also has to have a hard edge to it. It's going to have to have a counterinsurgency campaign because the remnants of Hamas and the Islamic Jihad will be funded by Iran, undoubtedly, as there are now, and they're going to try to come back and take control of the territory again.

So, you're so diplomatic for a general. I would get that phone. If I'm going up the Air Force One steps and I hear that these people canceled on me, I'm 50 miles from their border. I'm flying to the Middle East, putting my security at risk. I'm taking a big risk politically, too.

I'm 80 years old, and you're going to tell me now you're not going to see me when I'm there? Isn't that an insult to our nation as well as me personally? Welcome to the real world, Brian. You're America. Welcome to the Middle East.

This is where I spent so many years of my life. I know the king very well. I used to stood everywhere. I met him all the time. Um But he's got He again He's got to see to his interests as well.

He's trying to. I know. I know. But I'm just saying. Again, welcome to the Middle East.

What better than see a President face to face and say what General Petraeus just told me? To just say, hey, listen, I got my own constituency here. This is what I'm worried about. I just want to show you, Mr. King.

I got intercepts here. They didn't bomb the hospital. And they weren't the one who did the massacre October 7th. They weren't the one that watched babies' heads get cut off.

Now, the operation in particular, I've been reading a lot about this. For your military perspective, they were able to bust through the fence. They were able to get bulldozers through. They were able to get hang gliders with dune buggies on the other side through. They were able to fly drones and they were able to do surveillance on military bases and penetrate them on the inside.

As you look at this operation as we know it. What is your impression? That the Hamas operational security was ramped up incredibly. that they came to understand the ways in which Shinbet in particular, the internal security service, but together with Mossad, together with military intelligence and their signals intelligence, but Shinbet in particular, because it's an internal issue, Gaza and the West Bank, They understood how Shinbet has in the past been upstream, it's described in that world.

So they're actually seeing something before it happens. They have a sense of what's coming. They're that good. And then they had all of this surveillance apparatus set up. and Hamas must have come to have an understanding of this sufficiently that they could mitigate the risks of their planning being detected, their training and equipping and rehearsing and marshalling and all the rest of this, and even reportedly Use those very channels to send disinformation and indicate that, hey, you know what, we're not really planning something.

We're going to live together. Look, we got more work visas. The relationship is better than ever before. And then, of course, keep in mind that the internal security services of Israel get distracted by violence in the West Bank.

So they shifted resources over there, same with the military. And also, just this enormous domestic turmoil, which had. Potential threats associated with it had to be focused on as well. And you had military reservists not wanting to.

So, all of these issues combined. Then it's on a on the Shabbat, and then it's a religious observance on top of that. And military readiness is reduced. They're on leave. They're going to military.

So and then in carrying this out, they very expertly use drones with little explosives to take out the nodes, the communications nodes that actually are the relay. For the video feeds and so forth. Sensors that they have that convey it back to the command post, so all of a sudden they're blinded. At the hour of maximum need and take advantage of it. In the book, the manuals are recovered, they said they expected Israeli security forces to be there three to five minutes.

It was over an hour. Yes. Again, the military so this wasn't just an intelligence failure. This was a military readiness failure as well. It was really, I think, also.

Similar to a bit again before 9-11, there was a lack of imagination about what they could do, just as we couldn't imagine that extremists could get into flight schools and then get into cockpits and then could fly air. And in retrospect, we see Ramsey Youssef was actually practicing that. Exactly.

So, and he was the nephew of KSC. You can always connect dots after the fact. It's hard to do it in. Before the fact we're in return, it's important to understand now, don't wait till after the conflict ends because you don't know what's coming next. You have to find out what your enemy is capable of doing.

Don't you agree?

Well, first of all. It's not a matter of pointing fingers. First of all, they're trying to find hostages. Second, they're trying to identify what are the defenses of Hamas. If we have to clear every building, every floor, every room, every cellar, every tunnel and everything else, and do it progressively and sequentially, and then wall it off, or at least keep it secure and leave forces behind to make sure they can't re-infiltrate.

We need all the information from the enemy we can. Where are the headquarters? Where are their logistical depots? Where are the explosives caches? Where all of this?

You know, they've recovered a lot and they got over a thousand bodies. They killed a lot of they ended up coming in. Victor Davis Hans was on me Saturday, and he just said, My first, what's your impression, Victor? Let him go. He said, First thing is, since when can you kill 29 Americans and we so laid back about it?

Since when can you kidnap 14 Americans and we're not taking the lead on it? That's not the way we should be operating. General Petraeus, do you understand? He's a military historian, you know, too. I know him well.

He wrote, I was one of the savior generals in his book. Is he right? Um Should we? Not entirely. Because, first and foremost, the Israelis don't want us.

In this fight directly. They have stated this publicly. They do not want U.S. military in this fight. Certainly, we're going to help them in every way we can with intelligence, with planning.

If we identify our citizens and our special mission units are within range and we coordinate that, perhaps that's a way in which we might get involved. But no, I think you have to understand. The Israeli desire for them to carry this out and not get Americans involved. How much does it get under your skin as a general that was in both theaters, two surges, that they are using reportedly some of our weapons in Hamas? Very good.

Hamas is using $4 billion we left behind, the exit of Afghanistan. I could imagine. That that is beyond emotional for you. It was emotional for everyone who served there, I think. But I said at the time.

That I feared that we would come to regret the decision to withdraw. Keep in mind that this is this administration carrying through an agreement that was made by the previous administration. But I don't possibly think that Trump would have to do that. With which I I wouldn't I wouldn't assume that. They made the agreement and they were on Clyde path.

I thought the administration should have reversed it. They didn't held on to Bagram, which was the plan.

Well, again, these are some sort of tactical issues. We're talking about the big issue, which is do you have to leave? I know these are the things that we're doing. They reversed tons of other, you know, it went back to the United Nations organizations, World Health Organization, the Climate Accord, all this. And so it's not as if they had to follow through with this.

There were alternatives. We could you know, the situation was was frustrating, it was maddening, our partners were imperfect, there were all kinds of issues that could cause you to throw your hands in the air. But I felt that staying there with three thousand five hundred troops, we hadn't lost a soul. NATO did a year and a half. The NATO countries all wanted to stay.

I think they had a clearer picture of what was going to happen than we did. And I think the result was not just Tragic and heartbreaking for the Afghan people, the bulk of them. It was disastrous and disastrous overall for the message. Of inadequate strategic commitment. President Xi seized on that very quickly, said, see, you can't count on the Americans or an imp There.

Did it all? Unreliable partner, unreliable ally. And they came in and got the rare. And oh, by the way, look at what happened as they came out. They're a great power in decline.

And then do you think the the Russians try for the rest of Ukraine, if not for the way we left Afghanistan? If if I think that was a factor. uh in Putin's determination That he should invade. There are other, you know, he has these historical grievances, he has this Ravanchus, revisionist, twisted history. Uh Ukraine and the fact that it shouldn't have a right to exist and all the rest of this.

And I do think that, that was a fact. I think the red line that wasn't a red line may have been a factor. The inadequate response to Crimea and the Donbass was a factor. The there's a number of these that all added up, I think, to convince Putin that he would be able to get away with this In a way that he did not. He underestimated not just the Ukrainian Defense and their capabilities.

He overestimated his own capabilities, and then I think he underestimated how the U.S. would respond. And if you look at our past your book talks about, we have to respond strongly to aggression. And that's the reason we won the Cold War. It wasn't one day.

It wasn't one president. It was: you want Korea, we're going to stop you. You want Vietnam?

Okay, we're going to make it hell. And we could talk about that conflict. You're looking to take Africa? We're going to put proxy forces. Are you going to be in Central America?

You're going to try to take Nicaragua? We're going to make it hell for you. And you guys found that out when the Soviet opened up their books. The last thing they wanted was Truman coming in with an airlift for 11 months to prop up Berlin. No, what the key is to be firm.

To be consistently firm, to have strategic patience. You know, you don't want to be needlessly provocative, that you shouldn't do either. But again, you have to show that there will be consequences for aggression in particular. And this case of Russia invading Ukraine and the way in which they've done it. You know, this is a force that stealing kids and sending them back to Russia.

And again, they almost seem to embrace a culture of war crimes. In fact, Andrew Roberts and I have written a piece, I believe it'll be in the Washington Post, called The Russian Way of War, which is, again, Unlike Western countries, we make mistakes. We had Abu Ghraib, we had some others. But We try to avoid those and then we try to learn from those. We mitigate the risks of it happening again.

We adhere to the Geneva Convention. We believe hearts and minds do matter. And and you don't Win hearts and minds by carrying out operations that create more bad guys than you take off the street. And our great advantage is we got a better product. We don't tell you how to live.

We want to give you an opportunity to live. And you pick your government. That's all we want. We don't want to own you. We want to give you an opportunity to live the life you want.

And that's the product that we try to sell around the world and why we won last time. We're kind of getting away from that this time. A few more minutes with General Petraeus. Conflict is now out. You got to pick it up.

Don't move. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. General Petraeus is with us.

The book Conflict is out. It's already top 20 on Amazon. And you haven't felt the impact of Fox and Friends and this radio show yet. We're waiting for the Fox Punk. Right, and the New York Times, let's say I'm sure, will be there.

It's called The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine. And I'm going to be talking to you. I'm lucky enough to interview you at the Union Club next week, so that'll be great. We'll talk about this. But you always talk, I interviewed you before at another great event over in Atlanta.

I forgot it was Houston, excuse me.

So is a West Point grad there who's now president. Great Veterans Organization. Yes. So General, you talked to me about your concern about a political if you want to be strong internationally, you've got to be strong politically. How bad do we look without a speaker right now?

Well, I just did the the pre-book tour, book tour in the UK also was in Warsaw and uh Warsaw in particular because it was the Warsaw Security Forum um on their board and and so you have a huge gathering of international figures there, very heavy NATO representation. And the question they all had for me is, what is going on in Washington? And it's a legitimate question. And they're concerned that we can't get stuff done, that there doesn't seem to be a path forward for this or that. My hope is, obviously, that the House can sort this out.

They can get a leader, and then there will be there's bipartisan support in the House for continued support for Ukraine, obviously huge support for Israel. There's some other things we ought to package with that, perhaps something involving Taiwan, the southern border, and let's not forget FEMA. Because of the greater incidence of really terrible storms and wildfires and all the rest of this, all of these, I think, are very legitimate. needs, and we should fund those. And we have the capacity to do all that.

I don't agree with those that say, well, if we do Ukraine, we can't support Israel or or we can't do the Indo Pacific. We can do this. The US is the world's greatest superpower. We can keep more plates spinning. And everyone else in the rest of the world with our allies and partners helping us.

And by the way, Europeans have stepped up big time. But they say that I talk to a lot of people too, a lot of them are Republicans, and say, I'm tired of spinning those plates. Why are we spinning those plates? Why are we talking about that? Because it's in our national interest.

It's clearly in our national interest. We need a leader to explain that. Yeah, no, I think that's the question. No question about it. We have to do that.

Just as it was in our national interest, whether Republican or Democrat. to stay strong on the Cold War. Again, these are, and these are connected, by the way. I remember a prime minister in a major Southeast Asian country. I was meeting with him right after the red line turned out not to be a red line in Syria.

And he said, General, you know that that reverberates out here, that echoes, and it undermines. The deterrence that you're seeking to achieve in the most important region of the world, which is, of course, the Indo-Pacific. And why it was important to take Salmani out, to take Al-Baghdadi out, to put troops into Assyria, but not take them out. Right. Last question to you.

And we have sustained them and in Iraq as well, and in Iraq at the request of the Prime Minister, publicly. Why is it partisan to reinforce the border? I don't think it is partisan to reinforce the policy. How did this happen? I again You guys do domestic politics, I don't.

I'm non-political, but it is an issue. That's not just a security issue, it's an issue for our states and cities that are struggling to accommodate. The huge numbers, even those that are Even in some cases, the so-called sanctuaries that welcome, they're overwhelmed by this. And so we have to have. What would really be helpful is actually if we had policy, not just awesome.

Which is, by the way, that's a great point, General Petraeus. Pick up his book, Conflict, The Evolution of Warfare from 1945 to Ukraine. It really makes sense. These battles build on each other. You'll understand why we're at where we're at today.

Thanks, General. Good to be with you, Brian. Thank you. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Gilmead.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show. I come to you from 48th and 6, about 20 blocks from where there was a big Palestinian rally. Really happy. Four blocks from where there was one last week.

And then yesterday there were doing rallies between the Palestinians, pro-Palestinian and pro-Hamas and pro-Israeli. I didn't think it was a question, but evidently in America, it's a question. It's a question of Columbia, a question of the University of Pennsylvania, Harvard, Yale, Stanford, just places like that. Just minor institutions. Kind of scary.

Ken Paxton standing by, Martha McCallum in about 15 minutes.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three: if Jordan can't win, and if Scalise can't win. The people you should really blame are the eight Republicans who are Benedict Arnold's who are traitors. who joined with the Democrats to cause total chaos Hey, that is Newt Gingrich. He's as flabbergasted as we all are.

The embarrassment and frustration reaches a new high. Should I say low? As Jim Jordan falls twenty votes shy of the speakership. There'll be a new vote today, but little sign of anything being any different. You know who gets hurt by this?

Our country. Number two. You can't hide! We're committing genocide! You're committing genocide!

Please, please. Free power style. That is the protesters, as I alluded to at NYU, picking the wrong side. From the squad to college campuses, confused, disloyal Americans seem to have trouble recognizing who our friends are and who are the monsters. We review the teams for them.

Number one. I was deeply saddened and outraged by the uh explosion at the hospital in Gaza yesterday. And based on what I've seen, it appears as though It was done by the other team. Other team, Islamic Jihad. They're not a team, they're terrorists.

President Lansa and Israel for a one-and-done meet and greet with Netanyahu, as Jordan's king, Fatah's farcical leader, and Egypt's president all cancel huddles with him after a Gaza hospital bombing, which has all been proven to be done by Islamic Jihad in an errant missile strike. But that didn't stop them from canceling and for protests to happen all around the world, including at our embassy in Lebanon, home of Drumroll Please, Hezbollah. Ken Paxson joins us now. Texas Attorney General, Texas, the eye of the storm. I believe the number one domestic story is our border.

Attorney General, I don't think you'll argue with me there. Oh no, it's horrible. It's getting worse. Biden administration, in my opinion, they've put together a partnership with the cartels. Who brings people to the border who aren't trying to hide from us?

They're actually coming straight to Border Patrol. They're looking for Border Patrol. And they turned themselves in and said they can be transported somewhere in the United States illegally, but that's what's happening. Do you think with this heightened awareness of Hezbollah and Hamas, where we actually we have our guys. Griff came out and said there were two Lebanese males that came across.

One was on the terror watch list, then we have other Pakistani do you think that all this heightened awareness of a possible domestic attack can help the border cause? I sure hope so. I can't it's hard for me to imagine a president that wouldn't care about that, but He's shown no inclination towards caring about it. He knows that there have been terrorists caught on our border. I think the number is at least two hundred forty.

And there's been one point five million gotaways that we have no idea who they are.

So we know that there are terrorists coming into this country. He hasn't cared in the past. I hope that he'll change his mind because it actually will affect America because at some point, We're going to have a terrorist attack. These people are going to do something bad. And the more he allows in, the more chance of doing that, and the greater the damage will be.

I want you to hear what's going on in so many major cities, but listen to this in New York, Cut 19. Israel! Oh, you can't hide. You're committing genocide. You're committing genocide!

Israel, you can't hide! Israel, you can't hide! You're committing genocide! You're committing genocide! Three free free.

I can't even hear it anymore. This is what's going on almost every day, and it's not just New York. What's good how do you digest that? You know what? Here first obviously we have the First Amendment.

Anybody can say with whatever they believe. Um it's very sad to me that anyone would believe that that what Hamas has done killing little children and cutting their heads off. They can even consider supporting that, even if you agree with the Palestinian cause. The way to do it is not this to kill innocent people in Israel is hard for me to understand anybody that could. support that without being evil themselves.

I don't I don't understand it. What is going on? I mean, you guys even have it in Texas a little bit, not as bad as have it in some other major cities. I want you to hear this Cornell professor, Russell Rickford, cut twenty. It was exhilarating!

It says It was in Silver and Eagles imagined! And if they weren't accelerated. No doubt. Why this this challenged to the monopoly of violence by this shifting of the balance of power that they would have for you and I are considering Yeah. That's a long-term professor at an Ivy League institution that called the Hamas attacks, where individuals, Holocaust survivors, were massacred, taken hostage, and babies were decapitated.

He calls it exhilarating. I don't know what to call that other than pure evil. And it's shocking that there are so many people in this country that would say that. And I actually think it's not very many people that would say that. But it it's it's pure evil.

I understand having differences of opinion about what the Palestinians where they should go, where they should live, but I don't understand killing people, innocent people, and then saying that's exhilarating. With me right now is Ken Paxton. Ken, no doubt about it, one of your staunchest defenders through all the tumult that you've dealt with and came out on the other side has been President Trump. When you see what he's dealing with today, he's back in court dealing with a civil case as they're trying to say he overestimated his wealth to the detriment of no one. Literally, there is no plaintiff except for a politically hungry, fame-hungry attorney general.

It really this is disconcerning for me because I did not think not being a law student, I did not think you could just target people and find something to haul them into court and take their fortune. Does it surprise you? I am saddened by it, but it's becoming commonplace. Not just in my state, but all of the country. And you look at the number of cases they've filed against them and how ridiculous they are.

And then you look at what's going on with the Bidens or other politicians that are more favored by the current administration. Nothing happens to them. And then they drum up charges in some of the most liberal counties. And the most liberal states were Donald Trump has less chance of winning because of political bias. I mean, we're losing our country.

If you're going to weaponize the courts, if it's not going to be about justice anymore and about actually finding real wrongdoing instead of Targeting people, it's clear to me that the president's been targeted and they want him out of the way. And it's sad that that's where we're at in our country. But if an attorney general in a state can do that, I don't know. You probably wouldn't. But let's say there's somebody in Oklahoma that really doesn't like this Democratic candidate.

And all of a sudden they're going to go find deep something in the background, and they're going to start filing civil cases against them. And why? Because, well, maybe they're not the maybe they're susceptible in some way, but more importantly, they're no longer the frontrunner. You know Republicans and Democrats do this all the time to each other. Is this the template we want to follow?

Yeah. No, I think it's exactly the wrong template. It should be decided at the ballot box. I'm not saying that legitimate crimes shouldn't be investigated, but we're well past that. We're into weaponizing the Department of Justice.

We're into weaponizing local DAs. And it was never designed. Law enforcement isn't designed to decide elections. It's designed to punish crimes. And when you turn it into a political weapon, We've lost our republic, and we have to find a way to stop that, or we will lose our freedom.

And lastly, I know this was the number one story last week before the Israel war two weeks ago. And that was President Biden's like, yeah, I'm going to build a wall. I have to. The law says I have to, but it's going to be movable and smaller. Number one, is that true?

Have you seen anything happen? And what about the wall that we paid the fence that we paid for, the steel girders that's just laying in Texas and in Arizona? What about that? I don't believe any of what he said. I think he's saying that for election purposes.

He's a year out. He realizes that the border is a disaster for his election reelection. And I think he's trying to address that by saying suddenly he's going to build a wall. But the reality is, I don't see any effort towards that. All I've seen him do is waste Literally, millions of dollars that were appropriated by Congress, that were directed by Congress, build the wall.

And he said, nope, not following that law. I've decided those resources are going to get wasted. We'll pay the contractors for nothing and we'll let everything rot on the border, but we're not going to do anything about it.

So it's all politics for him. It's not about doing the right thing, which is protecting the citizens of my state and the citizens of this country. How much does it cost you guys to do all these things for a legal immigrant, to get your own Texas coalition to go out there and police the border? The extra time in law enforcement, National Guard. How much does it cost Texas?

I don't think we even know the full cost, but it's billions of dollars out of our budget for law enforcement. I do know that. But the actual cost, the higher crime rates, the cost, the social cost of losing our kids, to fentan all over this is that we shouldn't lose. The cost of educating illegals and the health care costs, I don't even know if anybody really knows what that number is, but I know that's affecting us. Every single Texan is paying that.

Is paying for that cost. And it's sad. The worst ones, so the kids, the families that I know where they've lost one of their kids. And I know too many families that have lost kids to fentanyl overdoses that I attribute to this border being wide open. And lastly, there are people listening to us in New York, Chicago, and Philadelphia, and Washington that are saying, hey, Ken Paxton, you and your governor, stop sending illegals to our city.

What's your message? My message is this. what, six, seven thousand people a day crossing our border into Texas. And these are sanctuary cities that were created during the Trump administration. That said that they wanted illegals and they were criticizing Donald Trump for protecting the border.

That all sounded good when Donald Trump was protecting the border and they didn't actually have to deal with illegal immigration. And then suddenly, when Greg Abbott or Ron DeSantis Sends a few hundred or a few thousand people to Chicago or to Martha's Vineyard, wherever. They complain about it, and they complain about the cost and the reality of actually having to deal with the problem. The hypocrisy, I think, was shaped. shown for what it was, the complete hypocrisy.

by these Democratic mayors who wanted sanctuary cities, but only when it didn't affect them. Yeah, I just want you to hear this. On 60 Minutes Sunday, they decided to focus on one immigration issue: the Martha's Vineyard flight from Florida, starting in Texas, and into Martha's Vineyard. They told 39 people: Hey, rich people, this is the problem Texas deals with every single day. And these are the planes being dropped off in Jacksonville Airport with illegals that we knew nothing about, that governors weren't informed about.

Listen to what they decide to focus on, but this is a sheriff who's siding with the Martha's Vineyard immigrants. The story caught the attention of Sheriff Javier Salazar in San Antonio. He's the highest-ranking uniformed law enforcement officer in Bexar County, Texas, about 140 miles north of the border with Mexico. What was your reaction when you heard that they were taken from your county? I mean, I was shocked.

Like, why why Bear County? You're you're the Florida governor. You know, why are you messing with people in Bexar County that are here legally at that point, by the way? You know, they're not. Undocumented anymore.

They've been documented. They're here legally. Salazar, a Democrat, spent twenty-three years with the San Antonio Police Department before he was elected sheriff in twenty sixteen.

So you understand what was going on here. How they decide to focus on that is ridiculous. But what is your take on this story?

Well, first of all, I mean, the Democrat the Democratic sheriff is wrong about them being here legally. They're not here legally. And just because the Biden administration found a way to slip them in doesn't mean they're here legally. And I don't know why he wants that big problem in San Antonio, but it's clear to me that. They have huge problems in San Antonio and under his leadership.

And I'm sad that he said that because that is not the problem. The problem is that is not Texas or Florida sending a few hundred or a few thousand people to these sanctuary cities. The problem is the seven thousand people that cross the Texas border or six thousand people that cross the Texas border every day that we have to deal with. I hear you. It's just amazing, Ken, that they would have this issue to focus on: not the border wall, not the flood coming in, not the cities overwhelmed, not the sanctuary cities that they're now pushing to get out, not the right to shelter.

Let's focus on Martha's Vineyard from two years ago. It's nuts. Ken Paxton, thanks so much. Glad your troubles are behind you. I look forward to talking to you again.

Hey, thanks, Brian. Have a good day. All right, 1-866-408-7669. Don't move. Politics, current events and news that affects you.

Brian's got a lot more to say. Stay with Brian Kilmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. Here we go. Nobody better to have Mitt with me in the studio than Martha McCallum right now, anchor of the story.

We're watching explosions taking place in Gaza Strip. We're watching, by the way, it's almost totally debunked at this point that the IDF blew up that hospital, and the President of the United States is still in Tel Aviv. And we're also looking at a vote. We're splitting the screen, maybe another third, because it looks like they're going to see if Jim Jordan is going to be Speaker again. Martha, I gave you a.

A smorgasbord of issues. Pick one and spin the lazy Susan.

Well, you know what, I think that what we need right now is a lot of grown-ups to weigh in. And as far as what's happening in Congress, it seems that maybe the most logical choice at this point, rather than putting the American people and the House of Representatives through fifteen or more votes to get this done, why don't they empower the current Pro-tempor speaker, Patrick McHenry, to just carry out the task. Man with the bow tie. Right. You've got a lot going on in the world.

He is a smart member of Congress. If they all get together and say, We're going to empower you to continue to move legislation through the House, to do funding for defense, which is obviously extremely important right now. I don't think the American people really care that much who the speaker is. I think these individuals care a whole lot more than the rest of the country do. I think they'd like to know that there's someone in place who can.

Keep the wheels turning because it's important to keep the wheels turning. And I think that that would probably be the best move for them at this point, rather than putting everyone through a ridiculous number of votes. You listen to Matt Rosendale, Matt Gates, they're like, We have to get things regular order. We know more CRs.

Now, what poetry is that?

Well, I think there's a lot of support for no more CRs. Right. But it wasn't done, whatever reason.

So, what are the chances of those appropriations bills getting done being that nobody's working on them right now? Precisely.

So, I just think that when people see what happens on Capitol Hill and how twisted up they get in their own scenarios, they are so appalled by it that what they want is just for them to do their job, right? And I think that does include actually splitting up the appropriations bills, cutting spending, because we know there's a tremendous amount of waste in these budgets.

So much waste goes on in Washington. That's how we got to trillions and $31 trillion in debt.

So yeah, I think someone responsible to take the Wheel at this point would be very welcome in this country. But get rid of Kevin McCarthy. He was the problem.

So he's gone. And now you don't have anything being done. Oh, the impeachment wasn't tough enough. It wasn't legitimate enough. What's the impeachment inquiry?

Nothing, right? No. What are we doing on appropriations bills? There's absolutely nothing going on.

So it totally, does anyone think it through? Does anyone say, Matt, listen, I know how you feel? But if we if we blow you up, it's going to be hard to get somebody else in. And let's just wait another nine months. Let's wait another nine months.

When it comes to a speaker vote, we'll pick somebody else. Did anyone say that? Because we're not going to be able to replace them? No, I mean, look at the power that Nancy Pelosi had over her conference. She was able to basically strong-arm them into continuing to support her based on the kind of arguments that you're making right now.

But she promised to leave in two years, and she did. Absolutely. And it's, you know, it is a mess. And I just think, given what's happening in the world, there's going to be very little patience for a continued process here. And I think there is support for them to allow the Pro Tampor to actually have the.

Tools that he needs to move forward. Right. I always wonder where we get these crazy Latin names, pro tempor.

Sounds like something. Pro temporary. Oh, thanks. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

Martha McCallum's here, and we're looking together at this Wall Street Journal story. The Wall Street Journal had the story that intelligence revealed that Iran's Kudj force was actually behind the plotting and planning of this attack on Israel. And they talked about the Hamas and Hezbollah getting together in a place called, I think I can remember it, Beirut. And they plotted and planned it, even went to do it as early as April, bi-weekly starting in August, and they pull it off in October. And now, if I'm the administration, at the very least, I'm saying, hey, guys.

Let me know where you got this from. Who are your sources? But evidently, their sources were Hamas. They've got sources on the inside over in Israel.

So they have pretty solid sources. No one said this is not true. Then they expand on it even more: how the Tehran took advantage of after the hostage thing was done to put it in everybody's face and lull everyone to sleep, letting Hamas think they had no big plans for taking over the region or causing major civil unrest. I mean, this is very in-depth reporting. It goes through March, April period, April to October, September, documenting all of these meetings.

Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of Hezbollah, holding an hours-long online meeting with an elite group of strategists from all over Iran about the backed militias and getting them ready for a war with Israel with a scope and reach, including a ground invasion, that would mark a new era, according to two participants from Iran and Syria. I mean, I can only believe that the White House has just decided that they don't want to. They don't want to recognize this because it's extremely problematic, and maybe in time they will recognize this, but that they feel that hanging this on Iran at the moment is going to be too difficult.

So, Iran's motives and timing are clear, he goes on to say. In August, a deal for five Americans, the U.S. agreed to release five imprisoned Iranian nationals and transfer $6 billion to Qatar. A report followed that Mr. Khomeini had granted permission for nuclear negotiations while oil exports had reached their pre-sanctioned peak.

Then Khomeini likely didn't expect the U.S. approach to persist after Hamas's attack. His regime has accumulated enough wealth to survive for several more years. His green light for nuclear negotiations are nothing but deception. The only surprise for Tehran likely came last week when the U.S.

allegedly froze the $6 billion, allegedly, because Qatar says we didn't freeze it.

So and Iran says we could do whatever we want. It's so hard to it seems as if the easiest thing in the world would be to just say, Well, we're refusing that money. When they made this deal, which made no sense on its face back then either, you give me five people, I'll give you five people, I'm going to throw in six billion of unfreezing your assets just for good measure. And when I asked about it, we asked Kirby, we asked the White House, they said, Well, we wouldn't have gotten the people back without that deal.

Okay. I mean, this is not what anybody would call I mean, a fifth grader wouldn't call that a good negotiation. Six billion and five people for five people is not a good negotiation.

Now they for some reason are tripping over the ability to say out loud, We are refreezing that money based on the fact that we know that they are the 93% supporter of Hamas. And even if we can't draw the direct link, which the New York Times and the Wall Street Journal seem to be able to do, this would be the strongest thing that they could have said days ago, as soon as it happened.

Well, obviously, there were strings attached to that agreement, and we will freeze that $6 billion because they're doing 3 million barrels of oil a day that they were not doing before this deal. And obviously, that has flooded into their coffers and given them the money to pull this off. To add to that, Andy McCarthy did some follow-up on this story, and he was on with us Monday. And he said, Do you know? that the Iranians that we freed were legitimate convicts.

Espionage. And do you know they're still here? Because they have green cards and we don't kick them out. Can you believe they're still here? I mean, they could be until they might be still an agent for Iran, doesn't matter, they're free.

Yep. And they can't be reconvicted. And they don't and the White House has been asked about that a couple of times in New York's conferen they don't want to talk about that.

Well, they might still be here, but it that's not important. It's of course important. But yeah, it's just incredible. Opportunity on the right. I think Nikki Haley's been taking advantage of that.

Governor DeStant is trying to do as much as he can. He says, I'm the first to say I don't want any refugees. I'm the first to say that we've got to be hard in Iran. Nikki Haley says, look what I did. She's got some pictures of her in the tunnels.

And I think the former President Omi last week feels as though all his policies has been vindicated in many ways. He's kind of right, especially when it comes to the Middle East, when it comes to Iran. Don't love pulling troops out of Syria, but he was convinced, evidently, to keep a small contingent there that is still there today. At least he could just give us something. And he swore he would have held on to Bagram.

Imagine if we had Bagram Air Base in between China, Pakistan, and Iran. Yeah, that would be helpful right now. I think it's interesting to watch the former president right now because he has made a Few appearances in the middle of these court. Dates, right? He's not speaking clearly about the things that he did.

He could be taking advantage of those moments to talk about his own record in the Middle East, talk about the Abraham Accords, talk about how close they were to a Saudi Arabian deal. And yet, all he talks about in these moments is how wronged he is in these court situations.

So he's very focused on himself and on these court challenges. And understandably, I mean, he faces 90-something counts.

So it's clear that he's focused on how wronged he believes he is in these court situations. But it does raise the legitimate question: how difficult is it for him to be the candidate in the middle of all of these court challenges that he faces? Because right now, he could be articulating quite clearly his own successes, and he's not using this opportunity to do that. I will say, I did talk to him for 30 or 25 minutes, and he said he did bring up Soleimani, and he talked about how Netanyahu backed out of it. He also talked about Netanyahu.

Mad at him. But he did talk about the Abraham Accords, what they're able to do, and that he says feels as though President Biden went out of his way to undo everything. He did. Absolutely. And he did, right?

I mean, Absolutely. And I think you know, I mean, I would imagine that we'll hear him articulated a lot more in the future. And do you think it would be to his advantage to go to the debates?

Well, I think it would give him an opportunity to talk about these things and to make it very clear that he made a lot of progress in this area. Here's what I'm seeing: I think that Iran felt that to some extent during the Bush administration and then to a great extent during the Trump administration, they were more isolated by the policies that were taking place.

Now they're in the middle of the Biden administration and they see this opportunity and they feel very isolated. They see the potential for a deal with Israel and Saudi Arabia. They see all of these, they see Israel and Saudi Arabia talking about. Being the two countries that are the most important countries in the Middle East, about a future, about an economy, about economic opportunities that they can take advantage of together. And with all of these moves between the United States, Israel, and the Arab states, Iran gets more and more and more isolated.

So, what do they do? An attack that is so brutal and so heinous that it will provoke a response that will drive the United States and Israel together and the Arab partners. Running to Iran's side. Right. It's pretty plain to see.

Iran's foreign ministers warned in an ominous tweet this morning that time is running out for Israel following an attack on the hospital in Gaza as experts grow concerned about a potential third world war. They wrote that like three or four different ways. Time's running out. What do you think they mean by that? What does Iran mean by it?

Iran doesn't want direct wars, if you notice. They don't want to necessarily say this is Iran against you. They want to go Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, they want to go Hamas. They want to have a terror attack inside Iraq. We don't really know who did it.

They came across the line, not necessarily sanctioned Syria, Iraq, all over the map. They haven't had to because they've been able to use these terrorist entities to put pressure on the United States all over the place. But I do think that they see this opportunity to squeeze Israel and their goal is to push them out of existence. And I think they're pushing that envelope in a way that they never have before. And I think it's a very perilous, very perilous moment.

I think they have the sort of tacit approval from a distance of Russia and China. And the three of them create a new axis of evil that I think they feel that the moment is ripe for. We were just watching so many things. We were watching some unrest at the Lebanese outside. Our embassy in Lebanon.

We're also watching the beginning of a second vote for whether Jim Jordan's going to be speaker or not. Yesterday, he lost. He was about 20 short. And some of the people that voted for Lise Eldon, some Kevin McCarthy, and we had some that Steve Scalise. Before we go to break, This is personal.

People don't like the way Jim Jordan treated Steve Scalise at the end, so it's personal.

Some people are upset that Kev McCarthy was ousted, so it's personal.

Some people are upset that Jim Jordan had his him and himself were being too direct and were too confrontational over the weekend as he tried to get over two hundred votes. Can we possibly Can we possibly put that aside for one common goal? That would be nice. I think that's what the American people would like to see. I think they are disgusted by what's going on, but I've heard from a number of sources that they have never seen the amnity.

At the level that it's at right now. Against Jim Jordan. Yeah, I I mean, against a number of factions, against Jim Jordan primarily, but the disgust about what happened over Kevin McCarthy is very high as well. Um, yeah, and and insult behavior towards Steve Scalise. It's it's very, very ugly what's happening right now, and I think that Democrats are p just eating it up.

And I would if I was them, I would not look to save the Republicans. I would like to get together on what you brought up, voting on letting this temporary Congressman McHenry be the temporary speaker, or you call him pro temper. What do you call them? The pro tempore, the speaker pro tempore. Oh, so if I said it's Latin?

Yes. Is that your native tongue? No. Oh. The way it rolled off, it sounded like something you could almost speak the language.

No. I I didn't take Latin, did you? Should have. People say that the kids all took Latin. And did it help them with vocabulary?

Absolutely. They could just figure out the root of everything. It's a great education. Absolutely. Right.

What was I thinking? I don't know. All right. My kids don't speak Latin. The McCallum kids do.

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Martha McCallum, we have a few more minutes. We actually got nine minutes together. Who's going to be on your show?

So, we have all we have our great reporters who are in the field in Israel. We've got Lucas Tomlinson, we've got Craig Palcott that we're going to talk to, Mike Tobin.

So, we're going to touch base with everybody. We've had a lot of breaking news at 3 p.m. over the past few days, so we'll continue to cover all of that. We are also going to speak with Chris Christie about the response that President Biden had this morning and also about what the impact is on the race. I think this is really, you know, I think we've always felt that there was going to be an issue that is going to potentially change the race.

And I think this may be it.

So, we're going to talk to him about the impact of all of this on the presidential race as well. You know, it's really going to help. Do you remember? And I'm sure. H.R.

McMaster as well, excuse me. Wow. He's fantastic. I've been looking for him. He's a great military mind and historian.

Absolutely. So, also, he's got this history out in the field with, I think, the Hoover Institute. But, what I wanted to get to, I'm sure I don't want to remind you that Senator. McCain got the nomination because the surge worked. Remember, he was carrying around his own briefcase.

The surge was happening. He supported Chains. But by the time we got to June, the economy fell apart. And Obama did a much better job communicating and understanding what was happening. And they looked at Bush as responsible for that, even though in many ways he wasn't, as Paulson tried to take over.

So it was an opportunity. Things changed. Originally, when it was this young guy, he's too young, he's got to get an experienced vice president to even be considered ready. We've got to go get Joe Biden against John McCain. He needs to show a little bit of youth.

Let's get this up-and-coming governor, go Governor Palin. And all that turned on his head.

So I'm sure there'll be another twist and turn. Oh, absolutely. I mean, we're coming up on one year, right? Early November will be exactly a year away from the presidential election. Think about the fact that Barack Obama was really, you know, it looked like he wasn't doing well in Iowa at all.

His donors were very concerned at that point that he wasn't going to be able to pull out a win. His wife, Michelle Obama, said at that point. Privately, it came out later in books that if they if they didn't win in Iowa, they should throw in the towel. That she felt that in order to for him to prove that he could win the country, he had to prove that he could win in Iowa. And he ended up pulling that out and you know, really From that second point, yeah.

And from that point, I think that Obama was unbeatable, actually, regardless of world events. I think that he was just sort of that person who was destined to. To be able to pull it off, because he had that charisma, he had that sort of Clinton charisma that works, right? I mean, you look at people who can turn the thing on its head and stand out. And I think that at this point, everybody's wondering whether or not there are some switches and twists and turns to come in this race.

And I think there might be. And here's why you're right. And I think you know you're right. I don't think you need my affirmation, but I'll just go with let's pretend you do. Nikki Haley.

It helps. She's not just governor of South Carolina. If you want to go domestic, she's got a story to tell. And the president, the former president. Because the former president, if he s starts doing some of the things you you recommended, talk about what you actually did.

And don't worry about the court cases. Pretend they don't exist. And you start talking about I'm going to run on that. Yeah. And then you instead of asking a governor to talk about what they might be like internationally.

No, I think that's absolutely right. And as you point out, we could see another twist that takes everyone's attention off of what's going on around the world. But right now, you have to look at the gravity coming from the former President and also Nikki Haley. I mean, it raises questions about whether or not They could ever run together. They have said a lot of very unkind things about each other in this process, but not as bad as it could have been.

I mean, Nikki Haley wants to be president. Yeah. And I am not suggesting in any way that that is not exactly the role that she wants. And she may pull off the nomination in the end. That's what makes this extraordinarily interesting.

But she's well positioned for this moment. There's no doubt about that. And we're waiting on the speaker vote. It's going to be happening any moment. We're also watching some of the unrest around the world.

But one thing we could say clear, just in case you're just tuning in, the hit on the hospital, as tragic as it was, maybe 500 dead. It looks abundantly clear. This was not Israel's doing. This was the Islamic Jihad, an errant missile. And we're not asking you to take our word for it.

There is actually some verbiage they put out there. There's transcripts that are out. You can actually hear the audio of them realizing they hit a hospital from the cemetery, and you'll hear it go back and forth. But yet, the President of the United States goes over. and wanted to meet with King Abdullah as well as President Sisi of Egypt, as well as the Fatal leader Mahmoud Abbas.

All three blew him off because of an event they blamed the Israelis for. But I just do look further. The one who's in trouble looks like Mike Pence. Mike Pence looks like he's got $600,000 in debt and might have trouble getting on the stage in November. The other one that could be in trouble is Tim Scott.

Like there's a lot of Tim Scott's donors saying, if you don't get some traction, I don't think it's going to be guy and continue to finance you. And you already have Consensus donors who backed away from him as well. And people. Watch this process. You know, it really does become about the donors at this stage of the game because if they back off or they hold their fire and they sit on their money, it makes it very, very difficult for a lot of these candidates to move forward.

So, in many ways, it can be a determinant factor. I think there is a push from larger Republican field forces to narrow the field. But there's a lot of egos involved and a lot of people who think they should be president.

So, we'll see what happens.

So, I want you to hear what President Trump told me yesterday about a poll that came out that it was fortuitous for For Joe Biden and RFK. RFK, if he runs an independent, would take seven. If he does that right now, according to this poll, Trump loses by seven. Listen to this.

Well, he's a Democrat. I think it's probably helpful of me. I think he's a Democrat. Look, he's a Kennedy. Number one, you put the name Kennedy, that's a Democrat.

But if you look at his environmental stance, he closed up New York. He wouldn't let Pipelines go through to Massachusetts and various other places go through New York State. He was very, very tough. He was brutal on the environment. He actually destroyed Andrew Cuomo.

He actually destroyed him because Andrew Cuomo wouldn't do a thing without his approval. And New York State got left behind. The environmental stuff that he approved is is just terrible.

So he's ready for his opposition research already. But do you think that he could take more from Trump than Biden?

Well, there's a polling that shows that he takes more from Trump than Biden. And I think when you look at, you know, Kennedy says he's going to be the first podcast president, he's spent most of his time talking to Joe Rogan and Jordan Peterson, and he's got a lot of, you know, he's got a lot of supporters out there. I think he probably pulls more from Trump than Biden. He talked to both of us, so he's got to be smart. Exactly.

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