Chorus on the left grows: Biden is too old to run

From Hia Tom Fox News Headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everybody, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmee Show.

So glad you're here. Pete Hagseth will be here shortly. Rich Lowry at the bottom of the hour. Man, we have a lot to discuss. Major movement in the Democratic Party.

I think things are going to change and there's some dire warning signs if they don't. We're also going to be talking about what's taking place around the country when it comes to different criminal activities that are taking place. Do you know in New York? They have been overrun with illegal immigrants. I mean, you're talking about 85,000.

Do you know what the Democratic Administration just told the Democratic Mayor? It's really your fault for not having a plan passed thirty days for these illegals. Excuse me? Let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. What you see Republicans in Congress, right, they have spent all year investigating the president and have turned up with no evidence. None. that he did anything wrong.

All right, here you go, KJP. A new impeachment period is upon us. All eyes on Comer, Jordan, Hunter, and ultimately Joe. Is the inquiry worth the political risks? Number two.

In terms of the trend in inflation, I think we probably have a disagreement there as well. If you take the more timely, say, three month annualized average, then you see an even clearer result. Inflation is easing. It continues to ease. Really, Bidenomics, something to run on or run from.

The numbers and the reality say it just ain't working. It's up to you to weigh in at the ballot box. Number one. This combination of Joe Biden at the top of the ticket, people feel uneasy about somebody who's 82 serving another four-year term. Time is running out.

In another month, it's going to be too late to have this conversation. Wow. The Washington Post, Dave Ignatius, often on our show. Joe, they want you to go. Biden is used to the attacks from the right, but now they're coming from the left.

And we look now at 2024. The window is closing. I mean, how long can it stay open? Pete Hakesett joins me now, Frashaw, Fox, and Friends. Hey, Brian.

You shocked at Dave Ignatius coming out like that? Writes the column. It is an interesting twist. It took somebody to say publicly what. almost universally across Washington, DC.

Democrats are saying privately. And there was another morning show yesterday, a liberal one, where the consensus of the show, and this is a D.C.-based left-wing show, was that every Democrat they talked to off camera says Joe has to be done. He can't do the job. And it's about doing the job. They're not even making the case about beat Trump, not beat Trump.

It's he can't do it. He's not able to function. He's four hours in the middle of the day, maybe, and then the rest of the time on vacation. But they are, that's why David Ignatius wrote the piece. They're out of time.

You make the move now or you don't.

So, you know, it's interesting. Trump talked to Megan Kelly. And in that, he said, I don't think he's too old, he's just incompetent. Is that the tack the Republicans should take?

Well, I actually think that's right. Because the polls we did this morning on Fox and Friends show that the numbers reverse for Trump, even though they're more or less the same age. He's only a little bit younger. It is not that Joe Biden's too old. And I think we say that just because that's the default.

It is because he's not capable. The age clearly has something to do with it at this point, but it's mental acuity.

Well, I'll take an 85-year-old that's fired on all cylinders doing the right thing. And oh, by the way, his policies are hurting the country and everybody knows it.

So it is a competency piece. And here's why it's so different than 2020, Brian. First of all, he's four years older. Second of all, he has to govern the country while campaigning. You can do a basement strategy under COVID and basically hide from your opponent.

You can't hide from the cameras when you're the president and trying to run for retail. But he has since July. I mean, he's doing the best he can, but foreign trips and certain ceremonial moments are inevitable, and he'll have to keep doing it. This is what struck me. The amount of reporters asking questions.

Yeah. That only Peter Doocy and Jackie Heinrich were answering.

So listen to this exchange, John Kirby. Um who I think he does better at his job, but has disappointed me so much from the Afghanistan withdrawal on Cut Four. In the past couple weeks, the president has lied about being at ground zero the day after the September 11th attacks, falsely claimed he saw the Pittsburgh Bridge collapse, claimed his grandfather died in the hospital days before his birth. What is going on with the president? Is he just believing things that didn't happen did happen, or is he just random making stuff up?

The president was. Deeply touched and honored to be able to spend 9-11 with military members there in Alaska, some families, make an important set of remarks about why we need to continue to remember that day. He's had a string of saying things that happened, things that are easily debunked. Why does he keep doing that? The president was grateful to spend that time with those family members and those troops.

Pete What the hell? What would you say? There's nothing you can say. You can't be the first one that breaks the damn of honesty. Karine Jean-Pierre can't do it.

He won't do it. What I wonder is: is there anyone in Biden's orbit that would come to him with a rap sheet and say, Mr. President, the following eight things that you say consistently are not true. You either need to stop saying them. No one's doing that.

He's playing the hits. He's just playing the hits in his brain with whatever he's thinking of or whatever story he's convinced himself is true. There's nothing you can spin in that situation. I think I agree with you. John Kirby's been really bad on a lot of levels and didn't handle a lot of things, but there's nothing you can say.

They can't defend it.

Well, you could just say on the big things, the President got it right. He has got this country going in the right directions, you know, and do one of those things. And look at what he has done internationally. And if a day or two is off here and there, so be it. You know, that would be something I would say.

But doing the ignoring, like Kamala Harris did on Sunday when asked about what week is the week where you say you should not have an abortion, and she just kept avoiding the question, saying, I am for reinstalling Roe v. Wade. Part of it is that they haven't faced these questions, Brian. It's like someone who's. You know, been rid like me, riding the elliptical machine for years with a complicit press, and now you gotta go run a marathon.

And you wonder why you're you pull your Achilles in the first three miles. Like, they haven't been pushed. No one's pressed them during the campaign or since. And now these questions are legit, and they can't answer them. Jen Saki was pretty good.

Right? I don't uh she told untruths, but she was better at policy than than Biden was.

Sometimes to me, she would lead from the podium. Yeah, she's not my cup of tea. I actually don't think she was as good as some people think she was, but I mean, Corine Jean-Pierre makes her look like a rock star. Right.

So remember when Joe Biden said this? There's a movie about John Wayne, he's an Indian scout. And they're trying to get the I think it was Apache, one of the great tribes of America, back on the reservation. and he's standing with the unions so he's they're all on their in their on their horses and their saddles. And there's three or four Indians in headdresses and the Union soldiers.

And the Union soldiers basically saying to the Indians, come with me, we'll take care of you, we'll be everything be good. And the Indian scout, the Indian looks at John Wayne and points to the Union saw and says, he's a lion dog-faced pony soldier.

Well, there's a lot of lion dog-faced pony scores out there about global warming. Yeah. I listened to it. I was on the road. I was listening to it on satellite radio, and I said, What the hell is he talking about?

He's in Vietnam talking about global warming. He goes, I'm so glad to sit around and talk about global warming.

So then our fact-checkers went out, and he was totally wrong about the movie. Here is the movie. Today, I, Kona, war chief and leader of the dog soldiers, will give a pony to a poor man. Bribing in a captive, a red coat pony soldier. You have taken two captives from the country of the Long Knives.

The pony soldier speaks with the tongue of the snake that rattles. It's his standing bear who speaks with a forked tongue.

So he'd Tyrone Power, not John Wayne. And It was a non-sequitur, and I mean the whole scene didn't help his story. No, and isn't he part of the politically correct party that's not supposed to say Indians anymore, too? Right? Like, that's a fireball.

He's like the everybody knows the grandpa that you have or the uncle that you have who just sits back, tells the stories, plays the hits. That's where he's at. That's where he. What do we expect? Another speed here?

There is no other speed, and I think that speed is anger. Evidently, he rages behind the scenes and he rages back at people. But that's what people who don't have a grip on their own life do. You get angry. I've I've experienced it firsthand.

He's got, I mean, the amount of frustration he must have, I can't imagine. Pete Xethi or Pete. I watched the Vice President get really tough questions on Face of the Nation, and it would have been an opportunity. 'Cause you ran for office. You know.

I think DeSantis is best when challenged. He's better with Nora O'Donnell than he would be with, you know, here, let's say.

So Kamala Harris is an opportunity to answer real questions and let her judge her leadership, because it's an audition for her. She's supposed to make the Democrats feel better about voting for him. And instead Everyone has the same read as us. She's got 36% approval rating and she earned it. Dave Ignatius said this in the column and then on television, cut to my impression from talking to people in Washington and around the country is that she has not been successful in the way that she would want in getting traction as vice president.

But the key question with somebody who's as old as vice president, as excuse me, President Biden will be, is whether people see the vice president as a strong successor.

So far, I don't think she's made that case to the country. If she's going to make it, now's the time. Again. What are we why are we expecting you know An MVP-level performance from a perpetual bench warmer. Like, she doesn't have it, she won't do the homework, doesn't have the capabilities, is not skilled.

And so, this may be her moment, but she doesn't have the gear. And I think, you know, I can see other networks are right now talking about David Ignatius' column right now. This is a swarming of the White House of a wake-up call right now. They're trying to say, and you know why. It's because they're afraid they can't beat Trump.

This actually does come back to fear of the ability to beat Trump. And who could they run that they believe can? And I think they see the writing on the wall. To back up your point. Nancy Pelosi, the same way she took on AOC by saying She just got here.

Remember, she was on stage and she refused to acknowledge the squad? Listen to this with Anderson Cooper last night, cut through. He thinks so, and that's what matters. And by the way, she's very politically astute. I don't think people give her enough credit.

People shouldn't underestimate what Come on, Harris brings to the table. But do you think she is the b the best running mate, though? She's the Vice President of the United States. People say to me, Well, why isn't she doing this or that? I said, Because she's the Vice President.

That's the job description. You don't do that much. Ah That's by choice. She could be the borders are. You know, Vice President Biden was doing a heck of a lot for Obama, whether you like it or not.

He was busy. He gave him an assignment. He did it. At least you could say, yeah, you know, have the talk to the Vice President. Mike Pence wasn't good for Trump, didn't do anything.

Nobody thought that. Nobody thought Dick Cheney was hands-off with George Bush. Those days of the Vice President not doing anything. That was in the 19th century. It's a tailor-made position to give someone big on your portfolio onto their plate.

Problem is, she didn't want what they were giving.

So she didn't want women's issues and didn't want minority issues, she said. According to this new book, she doesn't want to get boxed in, according to the new book. And then she was given a border and felt like it was a failing assignment from day one. Rather than trying to wrap her arms around the issue, she spewed a few talking points about root causes and never actually went to the border. She didn't own a single issue.

And as you pointed out on the show this morning, the closest she got was sort of women's reproductive rights after Roe v. Wade. But even then, she can't answer the basic question. Because the basic answer to that question is: we want abortion on demand until nine months of pregnancy, which is a really radical position. Or you say to yourself, I'm going to pick a week.

And that's gonna, I'm gonna take a stand. And I think that's what Lindsey Graham did. He said 15 weeks.

Some people said, oh, that's wrong, but at least you could say, I know where Lindsey Graham stood. She should been able to say, Hey, listen. If you really want me to handle abortion rights, they think it's going to be to birth. I don't think so. You can't leave me out there not to say anything.

So let me say something.

So that would have I would have game planned that before I ever went before a microphone. Either they don't game plan, she won't let them game plan, or there's no game planning that can be done to make her better. When we come back. I believe the most important Vice Presidential nomination In modern politics, it is going to happen. And that is, if Donald Trump gets the nomination.

He's term limited. That person is queued up for eight years. Who does Pete Hagseth think will be that person? Only that will be answered if you keep it here. Both sides, all opinions, it's Brian Kilmead.

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You're with Brian Kilmead. Three-quarters of America, they don't want to see a repeat of Trump and Biden. They want to see a new generational leader. The Senate has become the most privileged nursing home in the country. We need to, these people need to know when to leave.

They need to know when to get out of the way. And you look at Biden, I'm not running against Joe Biden. I'm running against Kamala Harris. No one believes that Joe Biden's going to actually perform in his term. Nikki Haley, surging in the polls, and it brings me to this, Pete Hagseth.

Um You believe Trump's got the nomination locked up. Surging, which poll are we seeing? Is this a surge from four to eight? Because the latest Quinnipian poll is 62% Trump. Right.

12 DeSantis, Nikki somewhere there in the eights, along with Vivek Ramsay. He's very much in control. It's over, Brian.

Okay. She she said you need to know when it's time to leave. Look in the mirror. That is my honest thought.

Okay, I know they're counting. She's counting on the indictments working. That's what everyone's counting on. That's the only thing they can count on. People don't make up 50-point leads.

With a with its pretty standard campaign. And I don't have nothing against Nikki Hale. It's just not going to happen. After twenty twenty two midterms, and a lot of so many Trump candidates failed miserably and he didn't finance them. Masriano was a ridiculous pick.

I loved Herschel, but I'm not sure if that was the best choice. We'll say. But right now Trump Policies look so much better every day because of Biden.

So let's say he gets the nomination. And he's always said it doesn't really matter that it doesn't win or lose elections. It does for the future of the Republican Party. Can you give me your top three? That you think, number one, likely and Pete Hagseth thinks would be a good running mate.

Okay, I'll I'll throw a couple I'll throw a couple curveballs. First, the the fastballs. I mean, I think someone like Christinom is possible. I think someone like Carrie Lake is possible. I think there might be a congresswoman or two that he would consider.

I think it's likely, probably a female Stefanic, maybe one of them. You mentioned the eight-year setup. Do you knowing Trump Do you think he really wants someone who immediately is the de facto candidate in the White House? Pence worked well for him because Pence played a certain role. I'm thinking a curveball of something like Tulsi Gabbard.

Because Tulsi Gabbard, if she were to be the vice presidential pick, she's anti-war, she's anti-woke. There's some issues she's going to disagree with on the base, but Trump's the president. The Republican Party's not going to nominate her as the standard-bearer in 2028. It'll be a wide open field in 2028. And therefore, Trump doesn't have a shadow president.

In the White House with him, which would agitate him from day one anyway. And she's very, she's smart. former military. I'm not saying that's what's happening under consideration. But if you bring in someone who wants to be thought of if you bring in someone who wants to be president right away on january twentieth, twenty twenty five, Trump's not going to have them running around shadow campaigning.

He's not going to want that. Interesting. If that's the case. I think Carrie Lake would be a mistake because she'll be doing that. No question.

I like her. I think she's unbelievably talented, but if you can't take Arizona as a candidate, how are you going to help there? Number two. I believe that if you are looking for somebody to help. I think Tim Scott helps.

Tim Scott's another one. I agree with you. Christy Noam helps. And Stefanik evidently talk like three times a week. And the president likes New York, and she likes, you know, she's not afraid.

Who knows? Right.

He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade. You mentioned your age as one of the reasons for not running for re-election. Is that a nice way to say to some of your colleagues who are older that maybe it's time for them to step down as well?

Well, everybody's going to make their own decision, of course. and uh and consider their own circumstances. Uh I just looking at my age and where I am, I I wish if I knew that I was going to be like Chuck Grassley and and be able to be vigorous and dynamic into my 90s, might have I might have reached a different decision, but you never know. But I do think that the times we're living in really demand the next generation to step up. and uh and express their point of view.

Was that a surprise? It was to me. Oh, nice comments too. Selfless. You know, listen, he compliments Grassley and he says, I'm in my seventies, I should probably leave.

And he does say he speaks to the President regularly.

So, what does it mean for the Republican Party? Listen, he's not a leader in the Republican Party. Get it. But He probably looks around and says, If Joe Biden's president, I don't agree with any of this, especially how he's hollowing out the military. And if Trump's president I am I'm invincible, and I'm going to be attacking or being attacked twenty four hours a day.

Rich Lowry is editor of National Review, author of The Case for Nationalism. Rich, what do you think about Romney's statement and the fact that he's not running again?

Well It's uh just a sign of how Fast politics moves that he was the nominee in 12, and then by 16 was sort of persona non grata in his own party. Utah was probably the only state he could win in, and it probably hasn't been very much fun. Even you know, with with Trump no longer in the White House. For him to be in the Senate. I think he's done good stuff policy-wise, some creative stuff.

He's he's obviously a profoundly honorable. Man, but I think this is the right call. You know, he doesn't look like he's in his 70s, right? All the clean living. But this would be a good model for others to adopt.

We said a couple weeks ago, gave us no pleasure, but McConnell, even if these episodes we don't see him again where he froze up, he's just visibly aged and he's too old. And the wheels should be turning on what the secession plan is. But all these guys, they tend to hang on. And girls, I should say, tend to hang on too long. It's just human nature.

These are great jobs. Nothing's going to matter career-wise as much. Obviously, once you retire, you don't want to just sit around collecting stamps, so they all hang on too long.

So Quinnipiak did a poll, and they said to Democrats, are you firmly set on your choice for the 2024 Democratic presidential nomination? 58% said might change. fifty one percent said about Biden's supporters said that they would also might change.

So how do you feel about the fact that Biden, who is really running unopposed, they don't acknowledge RFK Jr. Has a party that 70% of which of the country think he's too old. Rich, we've never been at this place at this point with a sitting president. Yeah, so it's it's interesting. As we've talked about, the two parties basically have nominees who, potential nominees who are polling at 60%, right?

But they're for different reasons.

So on the Democratic side, the Democratic Rankin file, grassroots, if you believe these polls, they're not into Biden. They'd really love to see something else because they recognize, too, that he's too old. But the party establishment, the party elders, is like, no, you know, let's stick with Biden. He beat Trump before. If he doesn't run, maybe Kamala gets it, she'll be a disaster.

Even if Kamala doesn't get it, it could be chaotic. It could be unpredictable.

So we're just going to stick with this guy.

So it's a real kind of cold-blooded calculation. I don't think a good calculation, but it's a calculation. And on the Republican side, like all you need to know is the clips from that Iowa, Iowa State game last weekend. I mean, it was like the Beatles showing up when Trump showed up at that game and at that fraternity house.

So on the Republican side, it's just this passion for Trump that more than 50%. Of the party has, whereas the party elders, even if they're not saying it, they're really like, ah, you know, it would really be better to go with someone else, but they can't, you know, they don't have much power in the first place, and then you can't stop. You know, people are truly enthusiastic and feel great ardor for a candidate. He can't be stopped, and that's what it's looking like at the moment. Rich, from your experience, how late can Biden go?

In waiting to make his decision. If he's gonna get out and give somebody a legitimate amount of time to get a campaign going and for the nomination, and them having a full-blown series of primaries. What month does he have to get out? I soon, I would think. You know?

It's uh now I guess I'm a little confused about what the the Democratic schedule is 'cause there's been no reason really to pay attention to it. But I guess is South Carolina first rather than Iowa? New Hampshire is not giving up, and therefore they're creating chaos. And he's creating so much resentment in New Hampshire. But still you know, now, uh unless he wants to to get out, you know, on a really clipped schedule and just basically hand it over to Kamlaw, which I kind of think he wouldn't want to do.

So my assumption is he's he's just in. You know, he's going to stay in unless there's something terrible happens and he and he has to get out. Otherwise, he's set and determined to do this and the party establishment is with them and they're going to just hope for the best. But I don't know how anyone can watch that Vietnam press conference and not think, yeah, this guy easily could find a way to lose to Donald Trump. I'm going to bed.

Have you remembered in all your years? I'm going to bed. It was truthful. It was like the most truthful thing he's said at that press conference. He needed to go to bed and he was going to go to bed.

And what about at the end when he said, anybody else, staff?

Meanwhile, he went through his questions, and then when people yelled out questions, he goes, I'm not answering those questions. Who talks like that? I mean, it was just. Painful, you know, that 12-minute pause or whatever it was while I was trying to read his. stage managed notes and as we've Talked about before, you know, that's like the height of this performance going forward, right?

It's just going to get worse from here.

So, Chris Sunu, who firmly believes that Donald Trump will not be the nominee, said this cut six. Though polls were neck and neck in 2022 and the Republicans got their butts kicked, we should have had a huge red wave and we barely got by with a red ripple. We should have had big wins in 2020 and the entire ticket suffered. You know, we should have had wins in 2018 and we lost the House.

So, no, we always think we're going to win. The polls always seem to think that the Republicans are going to win, but the reality is we don't. And when you have Trump and his message on top of the ticket, we lost in 18, we lost in 20, we lost in 22, why would you think that it's going to be a different result in 24? I don't even think Biden, I think it's actually more likely at this point that Biden isn't on the ticket than Trump. And if that happens, you're going to have a new candidate, a new generational change potentially within the Democrat Party.

And we're going to be here as Republicans relitigating what happened four years ago. What part of that do you agree or disagree with?

Well, let's see.

So he's basically saying just because the polls are close with Trump and Biden, that doesn't mean that Trump's as strong as he looks. He could be right about that. I mean, a lot of stuff's going to happen next year. Trump's the nominee, trials, perhaps convictions. But the thing is, Biden barely beat him in 20, right, if you look at the swing states.

So he's now an unpopular incumbent with low ratings on the economy. Not clear which way the economy is going to go. If it continues to be relatively robust, obviously that'd be really good for him. But it might not be. And then we have the age thing.

So is that enough for 10,000 votes in Georgia to swing the other way or 20,000, whatever it was? Of course it is.

So Trump easily could win. I do kind of, I've said the same thing that just for health reasons, I've kind of thought maybe Trump is a better bet to be on the Republican ticket than Biden is on the Democratic ticket. Who knows? Could be wrong about that. But I do think Trump is the riskiest choice among Republicans.

He could win, but I think a DeSantis or a Scott or a Nikki Haley would probably have a better chance of winning. How do you explain Nikki Haley head-to-head with Biden in just one poll? Up by six more than any other candidate. What is it about her? I don't know.

That may be a function. That kind of struck me, too. As you say, it was just one poll, but it may be a function that people don't really know her very well. She hasn't been banged up the way the Democrats did quite a job. It wasn't just Trump.

The Democrats have done a good job banging up DeSantis.

So it may be that Nikki Haley is just sort of a generic Republican. She's just kind of a stand-in Republican and shows if Republicans had someone who wasn't radioactive, he or she'd be polling really well against Biden. But I'm not sure. That's all. Before I let you go, I want to talk about the impeachment inquiry that's out there.

For people who think that the House has not done anything in terms of investigating Hunter to sway the American public, I think they're wrong. This is the third poll I've seen like this, and this is Quinn Apiek again. The question: Do you think Joe Biden was involved with his son's business dealings? 51% said yes. 37% said no.

If I asked that question in 2020, it would have been maybe 5% said yes because the laptop wasn't real. And he said in the camera, I don't know anything about my son's overseas business dealings. And now we know that's not true from the restaurants, from the emails, from the voicemails, from everything else that's gone down.

So they say they're small lies. I think they're big lies. They could lead to bigger lies. Having said all that, Is this the right move? I wouldn't do it if I were them because just to the point you were just making, this investigation has been highly effective.

It's had some political effect. You wish it would have more, but it's had some, that that poll question, others. And but they've really just they've moved the ball.

So the idea you need to do the inquiry to get the enhanced Legal powers.

Well, maybe, but now there's a question whether you actually have those enhanced legal powers because there hasn't been a formal vote and the Trump Justice Department's. Guidance, at least last time around, during the first Trump impeachment, was that you got to have the vote to have the enhanced powers. And I just think they're um It's risky because it it may be McCarthy, although he says he's going to get get vote for the inquiry, he may never be able to get get those votes. And more worrisome, it may be after four months of this inquiry or whatever it is, that you still have those four, five, six, whatever it is, Republican moderates saying, you know what, I don't want to vote for impeachment. And then you're putting Biden in a position to say, oh, look, they made this huge deal.

They launched an impeachment inquiry, and then they didn't have the goods and they couldn't even get their own votes.

So I I think it i if if that's where they end up, that would be a real shame because this is a serious scandal. They've uncovered serious evidence and there's there's clearly more To come.

So I wouldn't do it. They're doing it. I think they're on a glide path to impeachment. I think they probably will get the votes at the end of the day because he'll just say, Look, you know, we can't give Biden this victory. You need to go along with this or else.

And then, you know, of course, he'll never really get acquitted in the Senate unless, you know, unless really something truly shocking has turned up that would change Democratic minds.

So I wouldn't do it. I don't think it's a huge, it's probably, you know, won't make a huge difference one way or the other. I mean, the first Trump impeachment was forgotten relatively quickly. And I think if they end up impeaching him, that'll be the case here.

So, Rich Lowry, finally, what's happened at the border? Griff Jenkins just told us he just got numbers. 230,000 came across our border, going up again in August. And the numbers are soaring in September.

So, your thoughts, you write the column that his border bungalow reminds you of Jimmy Carter. I think it's unprecedented failure. And I believe that that is going to be the Roe v. Wade of 2024. I said that last.

week do you think I'm overstating it I hope you are right. I fear you are overstating it. I just wouldn't have thought this was sustainable, you know, and he sustained it for three years. What might make it less sustainable is the fact now you really have Democrats balking, right, who are paying the price for this politically and literally, because it's expensive to care for people who come here with nothing and show up at your doors.

So um it it'll it'll be an issue. It's one of the top issues for Republicans, obviously, the economy and in the border. But will it have the effect of a row? I I'm not sure. But it plays into what is the main vulnerability of of Biden, which is a sense he's he's too weak, he's too incompetent, and Afghanistan and the border are are too really important data data points on that.

Wow. Rich, exciting, right? Yeah, it's it's I wish it was more of a race just for sheer interest on the Republican side. But next year, even if Trump's a nominee, man, if Trump's a nominee, it's going to be wild. Just wild.

I love the way Trump's laying out right now. He's saying to himself, save money. Don't create controversy. Let the focus be on Joe Biden. He's never played, he's never done things like this.

Yeah. Well, that's the contest, right? The Democrats are betting Biden can make it all about Trump, and Trump, to the extent he can't, should try to be making it all about Biden. Go get him, Rich Lowry. Thank you.

All right, thanks. All right, when we come back, I gave you a lot. I gave you great conversations with Pete. We talked about running mates. We talked about the Democratic field pushing Joe Biden out.

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Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Republicans have literally been looking for evidence of this for years and have not yet found any. This House Speaker is now greenlighting an investigation into Biden without any evidence of wrongdoing. I'm going to reiterate to the audience because we need to be clear: there is not evidence.

Well, they don't have evidence yet to prove that very serious allegation. Again, no evidence that we have seen. As for evidence, though, there hasn't been any. Republicans have still not delivered any proof of President Biden directly benefiting from his son's business dealings.

So, I wanted to give you the other side, and what I think is important to bring up, these same people. Without evidence, they were willing to virtually convict Donald Trump of conspiring with Russia to win an election. They pointed to circumstantial evidence of. Don Junior meeting on a couch with a Russian who brought up Something about getting rid of the McGinsky Act. Aha They talked about Manafort having Eastern European ties and bragging to his old employers, who is a freelance political guy, saying, I have an inn with Donald Trump.

Aha Circumstantial. I think I'll put him in solitary confinement and break him. I think, oh, wait a second. We have other officials talking to random ambassadors in bars saying. There's something that Donald Trump has in Hillary Clinton.

Circumstantial no evidence. What did they do? They launched an investigation. What did they do? Get a special prosecutor to torture the Trump administration for two and a half years.

The Mueller Report released Bob Mueller. Shot. The poll r the report, a series of allegations, the conclusions. There was no collaboration. Meetings that shouldn't have happened, sure.

But no. And no apology, Within weeks, he was He had a she near Tiplosi. had a second impeachment. Where were the allegations? Pawnee.

Where was the proof? Let's have an impeachment. And then they bring people forward, and they bring people for the defense, and they bring people for the prosecution, and the sparring went on for weeks, and the whole country got nothing done. But what happened? You had an investigation.

Now we know. You have different opinions on the impeachment. There's no way that was impeachment worthy, but I do think it was just idiocy to send uh Rudy Giuliani into Ukraine and Investigate a possible political opponent. As guilty as Joe Biden may be, it is You just don't do it because you know politically you can't let politics get into policy. But it's not impeachable.

So they want to launch an investigation. We just showed you everything, and I've been telling you everything they already found. Joe wasn't linked, now he's linked. Joe knew nothing, we know Joe knew a lot. Joe was in calling into 20 meetings over the course of 10 years with Devin Archer there.

Nobody knew anything about that. The laptop wasn't real, now we know it's real. That means the content is actually legitimate. That means we have. The voice of Joe Biden talking about how Hunter Biden is in the clear because the Washington Post story came out and it was as benign enough to keep him out of trouble.

We know all this now. They want to further the investigation. And what I said yesterday that was picked up and erroneous and the headlines read inaccurate, I encourage you to listen to what I said. Because I probably said it here too. This is a job interview.

Yeah, I know we already got the job. But he lied to get the job the first time when he said the laptop wasn't real and he had nothing to do with Hunter Biden's.

Now we know that's all true. During that interview process, we're going to find out more and more about these Shell accounts, and then you're going to get to go to the ballot box. He's not going to get impeached because we know it's going to get stopped in the Senate and there's some moderates in the House that might not see it. But you'll know more about who Joe Biden is. And that's the job interview.

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Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmey Show. You know where I'm at, 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, heard around the world. Eli Lake is standing by. He's contributing editor at Commentary Magazine, columnist for the New York Sun, host of the Re-education Podcast. And his knowledge of foreign policy is without peer and without politics.

He just goes out what's best for the country with a great perspective on history.

So before we get to Eli, let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. What you see Republicans in Congress, right, they have spent all year investigating the president and have turned up with no evidence. None. that he did anything wrong.

Yes, no evidence. A new impeachment period is upon us. All eyes on Comer, on Jordan, on Hunter, and ultimately Joe. Is the inquiry worth the political risks? We'll discuss.

Number two. In terms of the trend in inflation, I think we probably have a disagreement there as well. If you take the more timely, say, three-month annualized average, then you see an even clearer result. Inflation is easing. It continues to ease.

It is up thirteen percent overall since he took office. Nice try, Jared Bernstein. Bidenomics, something to run on or run from. The numbers and the reality say it ain't working. We'll discuss it.

Number one. This combination of Joe Biden at the top of the ticket, people feel uneasy about somebody who's 82 serving another four-year term. Time is running out. In another month, it's going to be too late to have this conversation. Stunning.

Dave Ignatius. Joe, they want you to go. He is writing for the Washington Post and a columnist. And then you just speaking about what his column told him, and that's Joe Biden.

Well, he's used to the attacks on the right. Is he going to be ready for ones from the left? Because they are coming and they are fast and dare I say, furious. Eli Lake joins us right now. Eli, welcome back.

Hey, thanks so much for having me, and congrats on the Shokin interview. Yeah, thank you. A couple of weeks ago, I'm going to follow up with Prushenko, too, and find out if what Shokin told us about Prushenko hiring him out of retirement is something that he could back up.

So we'll discuss that. It's hard enough in American politics, let alone Ukrainian politics, but we're all getting the short course. Eli, first off. How would you rate the President's trip and press conference in Vietnam? I love the approach of trying to organize the the world that is concerned about China together.

But the execution and the explanation surprise me.

Well, I think we're at the point now where we have kind of built in Not just for gas, but like you know, there that we just assume at this point. that if you get Biden in a public You know, setting, you know, give it a give it some time and he'll show how old he is at some point. And that's, um, it doesn't really inspire confidence. I mean, like listen, I think that the press conference If you look at it from the kind of grand view of history, it is only like a fliver of whether or not the trip was a success, and these are. Confidential conversations between leaders, and it will take 20 years for us to know exactly what happened.

It is, I think, the right. direction for the policy, which is Double down on our relationships with India and Vietnam and try to create a kind of encirclement of countries against Chinese aggression. And that was a policy that I think Republicans and Democrats support. I mean, Trump in some ways tried this as well. And you could say that Biden is continuing it.

So in that respect, I don't have a problem with the substance of it, I get, from what we know so far, but the optics of Our president. Our octogenarian president at this point are not inspiring confidence, and in a moment like this. You would like to sort of have an American president project more energy, at least. And instead, you know, you have all these questions, and questions that are not just limited to. Republicans, it's limited.

I mean, now we're seeing, I think the Ignatius clip that you played is so revealing. And that column was devastating in a lot of ways because you could see Ignatius was making the arguments for. You know, I would disagree with him on the various successes of the Biden presidency so far. trying to let him down easy, but I think he understands that It's a real problem right now for the party that can he endure? Is he resilient enough?

Does he have what it takes to really for a long presidential run? And I don't think he does.

Well, a couple of things are going on because I know you have a real handle on what's going on around the world. Just discussing his foreign policy, we know too, the EU has woken up to the threat of China. They are not okay with taking China's. Subsidized cars into their market. It will wipe the electric cars.

It will wipe out any electric car in Europe, and they're waking up to it. They don't need us to incentivize them. And we did send four cabinet secretaries, if you consider John Kerry one, over there asking to be nice. And they don't want to show up at the G twenty. They want to get the brick thing bigger than the G twenty.

That never will be. And we're begging them to show up in San Francisco for a summit.

So The weakness showed on one hand is really what China understands.

Well, yes and no. I think that the Chinese system, and we should never lose sight of this. The Chinese system, they're not 10 feet tall. They have internal problems. We saw this a little bit with some of the videos that were I guess you could say kind of smuggled out of their internet censorship.

But remember, during the COVID lockdowns in China, there was a rebellion in large cities in part. Chinese citizens were furious at how their government had been treating them. We're seeing I think that it's in some ways China's its own worst enemy. I mean, you think about it. It's fa it's it's fascinating.

If you go back fifty years, Brian, and say The United States would be forging an important strategic alliance with Vietnam, a country that we were driven out of and defeat in a war that divided our country horribly. And you'd say, really, how long did that take? I mean, by the 1990s, Vietnam was kind of on its way to becoming a trading partner. And now we see in the 2020s it's becoming a strategic partner. They despise that.

That's extraordinary. And they fear them. Yeah, and it's because China is so aggressive, exactly. China's our own Kind of best PR for aligning with America because nobody wants to be bullied by a country like China. When you look at what's happening in Ukraine right now, Russia meeting with North Korea, I had Douglas Murray on yesterday and he says this is actually the ultimate sign of weakness.

When you've got to go to one of the most despised kingdoms with the most despised, bloated leader, and bring them over and say, have a 40-second handshake, and then give them a tour of your Siberian facilities, that's not strength. No. It's not strength. And more importantly, Uh what does it say that um Yeah, it's I I would just this is an interesting thing. Do you remember about six months ago there was a story that US intelligence believed that China might begin arming Russia.

Uh in the conflict, which is what the Russians are really interested in. That has yet to happen. And so it forces Moscow and Putin to Look to others who would maybe be willing to send them weapons that they're running out of. and material and it's Iran and North Korea. Two basket case countries that are sanctioned by the world and everything else.

That is fascinating to me because it really does kind of expose. That you know, we the Russian military, it's like a Potemkin military in a lot of ways because of the corruption within their system. Uh, their defense chief was certainly like, you know, sort of you know, skimming off the top. We saw this in the initial invasion, and we're kind of seeing it now. I mean, they have to recruit from prisons Those are not going to be very good soldiers, as we know.

And we just saw a a failed mutiny with the Wagner group, and we saw the downing of Progrosian's plane. I look at all that and I say to myself, there are a lot of problems that Russia's got right now, and the fact that it has to elevate. the Hermit Kingdom, um, you know, one of the the most dysfunctional and brutal places on the planet. Um well, that that tells you everything you need to know. I um think the Republican Party is moving away from Ukraine.

And they, you know, obviously they don't love and I don't love the way President Biden is slow walking a lot of the material he eventually gives them. The Attackums are the latest. The F-16 pilots will be trained by December. Not one tank has been delivered yet. We've given them a lot of money, and I know we're the lead donor.

But they say, in proportion, Europe has given up too, a lot too. But when you go to run a campaign in 2024, Republicans saying I'm supporting the war is not great. And I'm seeing it over and over again. And yet I see the cause is just. Do you see a time in which Ukraine has got to show some major advances in order to have the support back here in the US.

Have you noticed the division between parties?

Well certainly noticing it the division between the parties you're noticing the energy in the Republican Party is against the war. My theory on that is that it has very little to do with the actual conditions on the ground. The Ukrainians are doing. Better, I think, than some of the dour estimates of some of the critics of the war would say. That I think it can be explained by The campaign of Democrats beginning at the end of 2016 and throughout most of Trump's presidency.

to delegitimize the 2016 elections with something we call Russia gate. And so when you have Uh, it's it's the irony, of course, as the Democrats, as we both know, have just longly been. more dovish on Russia than the Republicans.

So, when you have a kind of relentless messaging that turns out to have been a hoax. It turns out to have been false. that Trump had conspired with Russia in the 2016 election. And you hear Russia, Russia, Russia. Then suddenly, when you sort of say, listen, it's in our national interest that we have to help this country that was just invaded defeat Russia.

You know, I mean, can you blame a lot of just sort of average Republican voters and saying, oh, here we go again. You know, listen, that's a it's a problem. I mean, Christopher Hitchens used to have this saying, I love it. Don't let your adversaries do your thinking for you. Just because the Democrats were wrong about Russia gate doesn't mean that Ukraine doesn't deserve American impeachment.

And then you, anyway, factor in the impeachment of Trump came from what he did in Ukraine.

So you're asking people to say, well, yeah, I'm kind of angry at that country. And then all of a sudden, Russia, they made it up. You know, do you realize this? That when the president sat shoulder to shoulder with Vladimir Putin, he said, listen. You know, for the most part, he did not do extensive interference in our election.

And When you look back, Hillary Clinton launched that whole push of the dossier and finance the whole thing that got all Jake Sullivan and everybody else on all these channels talking about the Lynx and this crazy Alpha Bank linking in the Trump Tower and the Russian ambassador meeting with Senator Sessions, which he was supposed to do.

Next thing you know, Russia goes, you know what? This is getting a little out of control. I don't mind them having some turmoil, but we're getting to blame for things we didn't even do. They come out in Helsinki and Trump does Trump. And he goes, Yeah, I don't know.

I kind of believe him, and I don't really believe my intel agencies.

Well, in a lot of cases, the FBI and others in those intel agencies had really turned on him and gave faulty information.

So That is one thing, but I just think you have to cleave it off. as opposed to one country invaded, unprovoked. And wants to take that in the beginning of taking back the Baltics and everything else. And this administration doesn't explain the mission. They just say, give me money, and that never works for the American people.

Yeah, I like how you formulated that because listen, because I do think you're right, like the intelligence agencies. have a lot to answer for, especially when it comes to sort of the the what what at least the formers were saying on television about Trump and Russia. And certainly the FBI, as we know, and everybody should read the Dorham report, has lots to answer for. There needs to be massive reforms. Um At the same time, I mean, we know that Trump regretted his health thinking remarks because he put out statements trying to clean it up.

And And I think it was one of those things where he didn't realize how it looked and how it sounded in that particular moment. Because the Justice Department had just filed indictments of these Russian GRU operatives. And it seems like he was kind of casting doubt on that. And I don't think there's any reason to doubt some of that, you know, at least what was in the indictment, although it never went to trial. But all that said, I just think that the residue of that has distorted our politics in a way.

And that there is, I think, a point to be made here, which is. If you're talking to Republicans who are fed up with the FBI and fed up with the double standards of justice and so forth. I think the point is to sort of say, but you know, don't give up on the idea that America is a great power and is a great hope for humanity. And that is a that's that's Reaganism. That's and that's not zombie Reaganism, as some people would say.

That's part of the identity of the American right. It's part of the identity of the Republican Party. And that is how ultimately you're going to get. a candidate who can unify enough people to win a presidential election.

So I just hope that you kind of this is a this is a a phase and the you know the Republicans will get out of it. I do. And I just think too, and you understand this. Is that our men and women of this generation, the way they adjusted and shaped battlefields, the way they came up with this cutting edge way to fight wars from putting hellfire missiles on drones to where they're at today, the way they went into urban fighting and what they did in Ramadi and Fallujah, You see what we did. The surge worked, and there were problems with the information and there were problems with the intelligence.

I got it, and politics. But you see our fighting force. It's unbelievable. And the way we left Afghanistan should not diminish the way with some of the great things we did there. And it was a political decision, not a military decision, that had us leave like that.

And that, I think, builds up to. I'm not going to back Biden's instincts on anything, even in this case, I think they're right.

So Ira, yeah, just final thought.

Well, my final thought on that, I mean, I agree, and I would add one more. Amount of the small commitment that was made in terms of just special operators. Training up largely Kurdish and some Arab forces that ultimately succeeded in destroying the ISIS Caliphate. is one of the kind of underappreciated Chapters of American military history that I think future historians will go back to and say that was really a remarkable kind of campaign. Everybody thought, if you remember in 2015, the election, ISIS seemed like it was the future in some ways for the Middle East, at least.

And by the end of Trump, they were gone. Eli, I could talk to you for hours. Check out his podcast. He's the host of Re-Education Podcast. His sources, he gets the information.

He just doesn't give opinion. He gets it from an educated source. Eli, thank you. Thank you, Brian. It's always great to be on the show.

All right, great. Back in a moment. Brian, Kill Meet. It's Brian Killmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Gilmeade.

Hi, everybody. I want to go along with you, Live, but it's just so fascinating to see. I mean, you think about it. You know, the Russian situation, they're thugs, and Vladimir Putin is the worst. And by the way, just a little note.

Uh evidently in the extended Press conference. Eric, I don't know if you see this, you always pick this stuff up. Evidently he didn't put his foot on the ground. One of his feet was in the air. And people think he has some type of Parkinson's and evidently try to push it down.

So I do not think this guy is healthy. Uh number two, what happened with Russia? Yeah, they tried to interfere in an election through a I don't know a million dollars of Facebook ads. They had no impact. Don't let anyone tell you different.

But they always we can go back they always did it through cyber other means. And then we overcharged Russia, and they knew they had nothing to do with the debate that was going on. And Trump looked around and said, you know. You didn't do this, right? It's like, no, I didn't do this.

He goes, you know, we don't think you did it either. You know, our people don't think you did it either, but it didn't stop the Russian narrative. And then you figure out what's happened with Ukraine. And the problem with Binman and all these other people, and the turned on Trump in that area, and never should have sent Rudy the way he did around that country, having said that, there's no way that was impeachment worthy.

So, Ukraine and Russia are not great for Republicans. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. President Biden has made this problem dramatically worse. If you reference those inflation numbers, the typical family now is earning $5,000 less per year now than they were two and a half years ago.

And in 21 of the past 26 months, American families experienced a very real pay cut. It's no surprise that as credit card debt soared and American families have put on $3,000 per family in additional credit card debt the past two and a half years, almost dollar for dollar matching the income loss as American families have drained their savings and then gone into debt just to pay the grocery bill and of course the very high mortgage payments right now. You know, it's crazy. And I'm very open to political spin, but When you come out and talk about the economy and you hear sound bites like that and people talk about that, they said they blame the press for bringing up things or Fox for making his economy look bad when it really isn't. I don't know.

If the economy looked bad and you were making more money and your interest rates were 3% and your gas was $2.89, didn't matter what I said. You go, you know what? I'm not going to tell anybody I'm going to vote for a Democrat because his policies are making my life better. Inflation is up 3.7%. That's significant.

Overall, since Joe Biden took office, 15%. Gas prices are soaring up 10% in August. They're now on average $3.85. I said that to somebody who lives in California, and they said, What are you talking about? We're paying $6.

So that's on average. Cost of daily goods, a 0.6%.

So this is the stuff that you live and die on.

So the poverty in America rose five percent in just one year, from twenty one to twenty two. Jared Bernstein was on his spin machine, cut twelve. In terms of the trend in inflation, I think we probably have a disagreement there as well. The trend in the PCE, the trend in the CPI, whether you look at headline or core, and in fact, well, it's not here anymore, but that graph that was just there showed a very clear trend in the year-over-year CPI. If you take the more timely, say, three-month annualized average, then you see an even clearer result.

Inflation is easing. It continues to ease. So Jared Byrne seems one of the best they have. But he's not working with much. But he is a good communicator and he's affable, approachable.

And he was dueling it out with Ed Lawrence, Cut 13. Gas prices are a large part of the increase we saw in the CPI. Then why is the President then restricting future growth of the oil industry? He made the decision in or the Interior Department made the decision in Alaska just last week.

Well, there are... American oil production now is at an all-time high. It's just below 13 million barrels a day. There are thousands of available permits, places where oil companies could drill. They've been highly profitable.

They've been highly productive.

So I don't think that's the problem. Really? When you send a and I learned this, I didn't grow up in the oil business, but did a great feature I thought, forty-five minute feature on Fox Nation on the history of oil and where we're at. And after talking to people about the oil business, You deal with projections. And if you know you're drilling in Anwar or throughout Alaska, You see the potential and you say, Okay, I'm going to go invest in that company.

And you gotta go raise money to drill there.

So Trump put that in his tax reform. he arbitrarily threw an executive order. Stops it. The people of Alaska want it. The American people want cheap gas.

People on his left don't want it. And that's what he cares about. I care about the country.

So you want the whole country to go electric. Carbon neutral. but you don't want to mine our rare earth, which we have a lot. Eric, what did you just say? sent me this week about a huge discovery.

uh about rare earth minerals in our country. Right, so it's an old extinct volcano. I believe it's on the border of. Oregon and Idaho, they found the largest natural lithium. Deposit.

which could supply the world for decades and allow us to cut out China completely from the lithium market. Will we be able to mine? I'm reading that story. Do you think we're going to go ahead and mine it? It it's scheduled to start mining in twenty twenty six.

I guess they're getting everything together now, but I guess that remains to be seen whether or not they cancel. Because you could mine rare earth in Minnesota too, right? Right.

And I was reading that, you know, one of the issues with with lithium is that we haven't really spent a lot of time looking for it yet.

So there's a lot of supposition that if we just look for it, we'll find a lot here at home.

So that would be if I want electric cars, that's would be I would be talking about. Absolutely. Right.

So instead you're telling people I don't want to drill. But I don't want to deal with foreign powers in order to get well. He Saudi Arabia just said, you know, you're a villainous nation. They decided they're going to cut production, and so did this other non nation, I forgot the name, Russia.

So they are going to stop.

So they're going to cut off.

So that's going to affect everything. What kind of foreign policy is this? Look out for your own agenda.

So here's more of the spar in Cut 14. We now have two inflation ports in a row where year over year the headline inflation number has gone up. You couple that with real average hourly wages are actually down since the day President Biden took office about 3%.

So is that Biden Omics? Yeah, no, I think we have a disagreement on a fact there.

So and we can certainly show you CEA's data on this. Real wages are up relative to before the pandemic. They're up for all private sector workers and those wages are actually above the pre-pandemic level in real terms. We just have a factual disagreement there. Yeah.

Look, I appreciate the fact that he didn't He communicates. He took Ed Lawrence's questions, and Ed Lawrence is well researched. They got numbers. You know, economic guys go at each other, people go at each other with numbers. I have a disagreement with numbers.

What you need is the follow-up to say, what numbers do you disagree with? Because these are hard numbers. And I guess you could flip them and emphasize them differently. But again, bring you back to what the people think. Here is the question.

Biden's handling of the economy. It's not really a tricky question, is it? 60% of you listening right now. Disapprove. Is that because too many people listen to Fox?

Most worrisome economic issue forty nine percent the price of gas and consumer goods. Can you honestly say That he is not responsible. for oil and gas production. The fact that nobody will invest in a refinery because they know if they invest in a refinery, That it is not a good investment if the people in charge of oil and gas are going to keep restricting oil fields. And there's been conversions of refineries.

Evidently, There is in the Caribbean, we have a refinery that could be fired up. We don't want to use it.

So when you pay $4.25 for gas, Okay, that's that's we know where You know, that's what it is. No, it doesn't have to be that. It's policies of the people you put in power. that allow for that. Thirty-four percent cost of housing or rent.

Look. Everybody says the only move the Fed has is to raise rates to tame the economy. We're now at 7%. That affects everything.

So any cost of housing. That means the house I'm in, I wanted to downgrade. No one will take my house because the rent's so high, the mortgage will be so high, and I'm going to have to adjust the price.

So nobody moves. 9% the stock market. That's always tough. Four percent their job situation. What the President's been hanging his hat on.

is the job situation. The President's been saying, look at the jobs.

Well, Mr. President, you're right. Historic unemployment. And we'll take a look at how that happens. Because we also doubled the deficit at the same time.

Usually when you have virtual full employment, you don't need to double the deficit because there's so much production. But we have committed so much in all these programs, the rescue package, the infrastructure package, the Inflation Reduction Act, which he told us was wrongly named. The money is flowing in to such a rate that we've doubled the deficit by a trillion dollars. Are you kidding me?

So that affects everything, and wages aren't reflecting how much money is there. And here is President Biden today. President Biden will be out and about. And he's going to have a speech. And he's going to be in McLean, Virginia.

And he let us know what it's going to be about. And here's the quote that he tweeted out. I'm going to lay out my Bidenomics. It's working, it's working. The MAGA Republicans, the MAGANomics, the alternative they have I'm not joking, what academic plan, boy, have they offered?

Mr President. I got news for you. You don't really need a formal plan. The guy leading for the nomination. has a four-year report card.

And he wants you to read it. And most people know. The pandemic year, six months, eight months. It's pretty much an anomaly. It was a pandemic, the worst in a generation and a half.

And everybody, the president, whatever he asked for, Congress gave him more. 'Cause they wanted to quickly tell everyone not to work and to get then get their money. And now we just found out. There was $134 billion worth of fraudulent claims. Do you believe that?

and some of it came from outside our country.

So, you know, Trump will give you an economic package and say, this is what I'll do. But most people know already. When we come back, I'll take your calls. I also have a ton of emails I'm going to get through. You're not going to believe what Nancy Pelosi said and didn't say about Kamala Harris.

I'll play it for you. Brian Kill Meat Show. Expanding your knowledge base. It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. A radio show like no other.

It's Brian Killmade. Is Vice President Rambler Harris the best running mate for this president? He thinks so, and that's what matters. And by the way, she's very politically astute. I don't think people give her enough credit.

People shouldn't underestimate what Colonel Harris springs to the table. But do you think she is the the best? Running mate though? She's the Vice President of the United States. People say to me, Well, why isn't she doing this or that?

I say, Because she's the Vice President. That's the job description. You don't do that much. Oh my god, every time I hear it, I'm more astounded. You have to see Anderson Cooper's face.

He's like, I just gave you the easiest question in the world three times and you didn't answer it. And you know why? She wants her out. She wants Kamala Harris out. And the vice president does a lot.

You tell Dick Cheney the vice president doesn't do much. Tell Al Gore the vice president doesn't do much. Mike Pence was in charge of the COVID response. Mike Pence ran interference and defined what the president really meant and every legislative project. Mike Pence went to North Korea.

I mean, my goodness, are you crazy? That is the most insincere answer. But what she did. On the day of Dave Ignatius' release of the Washington Post story saying Joe should not run again, The former Speaker, the most powerful Democrat top five anyway, saying Vice President, huh? Don't really know.

Yeah, she's vice president.

So the analogy I used is: imagine someone coming up to you and go, What do you think of my wife? Do you think she's hot? And they're going, You think she is?

Okay. Yeah. So Oh, my goodness. Before I get to the phones, just send me your email. Quincy writes, Quincy Smith writes, talking about Ukraine, Alexander Vinyman set in the U.S.

Embassy in Ukraine. He sat there listening in on phone calls between us and Ukraine, meaning Trump. Did he ever listen in on Biden's calls? Hmm, good question. Teresa writes this.

Enjoy watching you during the week on Fox and Prince and One Nation on Saturdays. Going to continue on Saturdays, question mark, since Mark Levin has taken over the APM slot. Yes, I'll be on at 9 o'clock.

So I think it's great. Thank you so much. And my last email is this. Don writes me. Don Pagano writes, Biden's age.

Please don't make his age the reason for not electing this trader. Stress his failed policies. Love your show. And Dan, you know who agrees with you? Or Don?

Yeah, Dan, I'm sorry. Uh Dan, you know who agrees with you? President Trump. He sat down with Megan Kelly and he said, Stop bringing up his age. He's just incompetent.

Good. Chris, listen on W T B Own Orlando. Hey, Chris. Hey, Brian. quick please It's funny to listen to the Biden administration talk about Bidenomics when.

They were the ones who originally told us information was transitory. Just let me quick thing. Because I think we underestimate what illegal immigration and asylum seekers has done to the demand in our economy. increased it so significantly why he's simultaneously cut back and when our energy production If you look at just housing and rental housing alone, these individuals need places to live. Yeah.

Hmm. It's unbelievable. You know what someone should talk of talk about? Corporate housing. Chris, these corporations, Blackstone.

They are actually buying up. Working class homes, single fa single family homes, two bed two bedroom homes, and they're Getting them standard, you know. fixing them up and then jacking up the price. and they own huge lots and swaths, making it almost impossible to buy, but only to rent. I don I don't want corporations deciding who's in my neighborhood.

Are you kidding me?

He should speak up about that because that's who you're competing with when you put a bid in on a house. These guys got endless types of resources. Thanks so much for the call. John writes this. He writes, It is common now to hear conservative experts rail on the awful conduct of Democrats for the past eight years, the phony dossier rule changes before the 2020 vote, the FBI trickery, and the biased reporting by the media, and those other key topics, and those are perhaps 20 other things.

Yet, after all the condemnation, these conservative experts still cling to a position that the election in 2020 was free and fair. Here's the problem. The things that did take place. The plethora of drop boxes. Those states.

that uh loosened up their No excuse, ballot initiatives, the drive-through balloting. That stuff was on the books. The Zuckerbergs into key districts. The suppression of Facebook Twitter and all social media. The Destroying of the Laptop Story.

That to me Is out there. The other stuff about ballots disappearing, ballots not here, double ballots, people voting. I don't have any proof of that. And all Trump's lawyers could not prove that.

So The average person just believes what they believe, but they don't know. but the other things that took place They pushed Trump. to lose by maybe cumulatively forty thousand votes? If there was no suppression. the vote would have been different.

If the laptop was out there, you got to figure five percent of the people go, yeah, I don't want a guy compromised like this, running the White House. Maybe Trump, maybe Obama was right. Never underestimate the power of Joe Biden to F things up.

So Bionomics is what he's running on, believe it or not. Here's Larry Kudlow, cut fifteen. One definition of bionomics is the goal of destroying fossil fuels. Including gas-powered cars.

So, while OPEC Plus, which includes Iran, Venezuela, Russia, Saudis, well, they extend their production cuts, Bidenomics has frozen drilling in large parts of Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico. The rig count is way down. In other words, future production cuts from Biden match the current production cuts of our OPEC adversary.

So, world oil price is now back to $92 a barrel, and AAA National Gasoline is back to $3.85.

Now, when Joe Bidenomics was inaugurated, world oil prices were $54 a barrel, and gasoline was $2.39. You do the math. Larry, you did the math, and you're 100% right. And you know what? He's not just reporting on the Trump years, he was the Trump years.

And after going into that administration when it didn't work out with the previous guy, He really steadied the ship. He had the respect to Trump. They are in great form right now. Larry Kudlow, I hope, would not go back if Trump wins again, but really understands the numbers. Think about this.

You built an economy, it was soaring. I know the debt was a little high, but it was going to balance out much with the tax reform kicking in over a course of a couple of years. And then you have to undo it all with the pandemic. It must have been brutal. But it was brutal for us.

Now we're paying the price. Then we didn't really feel it.

Now we're feeling it. Ryan, kill me, chill. Don't forget One Nation coming up Saturday, 9 o'clock. Don't move. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division.

It's Brian Killmead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest minutes of the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. We're going to be joined by one of the most positive people in the country, Arthur Brooks, author of a brand new book with Oprah: Build the Life You Want: The Art and Science of Getting Happier, and also Congressman Mike Lawrence. If you want to talk about impeachment and the risks, Well look at Mike Lowell. He w he won in in a big upset in a purple district in New York, a very blue state. And if he goes out and gets involved heavily in impeachment, I don't know.

Uh Congressman Gates style, Matt Gates style. Is that going to be a turnoff? Could he lose the seat? We'll discuss it. Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. What you see Republicans in Congress, right, they have spent all year investigating the president and have turned up with no evidence. None. He that he did anything wrong.

Wow. Does she sleep at night? KJP, a new impeachment period is upon us. All eyes on Comer, all eyes on Jordan, Hunter, and ultimately Joe. Is the inquiry worth the political risks?

Number two. In terms of the trend in inflation, I think we probably have a disagreement there as well. If you take the more timely, say, three-month analyzed average, then you see an even clearer result. Inflation is easing. It continues to ease.

Really? All right, Jared Bernstein. Nice try. Bidenomics.

Something to run on, or I ask you, run from? The numbers? In reality, say it just ain't working. It's up to you to weigh in at the ballot box, perhaps. Number one.

This combination of Joe Biden at the top of the ticket, people feel uneasy about somebody who's 82 serving another four-year term. Time is running out. In another month, it's going to be too late to have this conversation. Ha Dave Ignatius of The Washington Post, Joe. Go.

Biden is used to the attacks on the right. He gets them all the time, deservingly.

Now they're coming from his left. We look at 2024. Congressman Mike Lowell joins us now. And Mike Lowell, you were told you were not one of those MAGA Republicans when you met President Biden. Are you surprised the President is getting pressure from the left not to run?

No, not I think obviously anytime you're talking about Uh somebody who's Over the age of There's Legitimate concerns that have been raised with respect to health and their ability to fulfill the full term. And I think obviously, you see what's happening with Dianne Feinstein, you see some of the situation with Mitch McConnell. And so I think it's rational that there's going to be that concern. And the reality is his policies have been terrible. And I think the American people have suffered under a really bad economy as a result of his reckless out of control spending.

And the impact that that has had on inflation and the cost of goods and groceries.

Okay. housing market with interest rates through the roof. I I think the Democrats are certainly right rightfully concerned about his ability as a candidate. And given the fact that he spent the 2020 campaign operating out of his basement, You know, it's not going to be the same campaign this time around. He's going to have to get out there.

And so clearly they're concerned about that.

So, Mike Lola, you're in New York. The Biden administration officially shifts the blame from the New York City migrant crisis onto Mayor Eric Adams because he says there's no exit strategy for the illegal aliens that he allowed to come here. I mean, as much as you want to blame Mayor Adams, What is he talking about? How are we supposed to have an exit strategy when they shouldn't work and they aren't working, when they come here illegally, they be dumped at a depot, we've already converted over 200 hotels in various tent cities. What are they talking about?

Uh So Other day on Sid Rosenberg's show, this is like an episode of The Three Stooges between Biden, Hochl, and Adams. None of them know how to deal with this. And you know, before we get into what Governor Abbott and Governor DeSantis did. Joe Biden was flying migrants to New York. last year and and dispersing them all over the state.

and the region.

So the Biden administration, long before Governor Abbott and DeSantis were sending migrants to New York, the Biden administration was doing it. But this is what happens when you have really bad policies, open borders. Sanctuary cities in New York and New York State being a sanctuary state, refusal to cooperate with ICE. And taking taxpayer money to pay for housing, health care, education. Crazy.

This is what happens. You invite people to come. And mind you, I've said this before, my wife's an immigrant. This is not about being against immigration. It's not about being against immigrants who want to come here in search of a better life and economic opportunity and to give their children opportunity.

Of course, we want that. We welcome that. But there has to be a process. And This is insanity. You have over nearly 6 million migrants have come through our southern border, most of them illegally, since Joe Biden took office.

Eric Adams is dealing with over 100,000 migrants in just the last year plus who have come to New York. They have nowhere to house them. They cannot handle the influx. The school systems are being overwhelmed. The shelter system is overwhelmed.

Spending upwards of $12 billion in New York to deal with this crisis. The governor has no idea what she's doing. And it's just incompetence all around. You have to secure the border. You have to stop this influx where it is happening.

And they refused to do that. And Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, Has been absolutely dead silent on this. This is a man who holds a Sunday press conference every week. One would think, given the crisis in New York, that he would actually spend. one Sunday and focus on this.

Another one, totally, totally silent because they know that they own this and that this will have consequences electorally next year, much like cashless bail, another train wreck of a policy, and they don't know how to handle it. Because the reality is, if you wanted to fix this problem, we could. You increase border personnel, you put more physical barriers at the border, you increase court personnel to hear these asylum cases in an expeditious manner, and you don't release people across the country. The idea that we're just going to increase work authorization time periods from 150 days to 30 days, and somehow that's going to solve the problem here. is laughable.

So the other big story this week is what Kevin McCarthy decided. He wants to do an impeachment inquiry to get to the bottom of Joe's role with Hunter in their international business dealings, which at first we learned We were told that Joe had nothing to do with it, no idea about it. Then we learned he knew about it, but didn't do anything. Then we find out he's going to dinner with them, calling into these meetings.

So they're mi they're learning a lot. Here's what Kevin McCarthy said is the reason why he's doing this, Cut nineteen. The money that he got for Hunter Biden being on the board, he never declared it. But what did the Biden administration do, the DOJ? They let the statute of limitations run out with the IRS, which the IRS would never allow you to do.

You know, remember why Hunter Biden, what he told why he was on that board. He said he had no experience. He was there because it was part of the Biden brand. You know, you can tell exactly what's happening at the White House. The Bidens have given the marching orders to the media.

They know that they do not want to provide the information to the American people. And the American people deserve it. That is exactly why I did impeachment inquiry. Are you for this? Look, I have supported the investigations from the beginning.

Jim Jordan and James Comer, through their committees, the House Judiciary and House Oversight, along with Jason Smith and the Ways and Means Committee, have been conducting investigations for eight months. And so these investigations are continuing forward. The speaker made the decision to raise it to the level of an impeachment inquiry. The reality is, it's no different than it was just a few days ago. The issue ultimately is whether or not you can get these bank records to show whether or not President Biden benefited in any way, either directly or indirectly, from these business deals.

What is abundantly clear is that these investigations have produced significant and damaging information With respect to these twenty shell companies that were set up. To transfer nearly twenty million dollars from Russian oligarchs, Ukrainian oligarchs. Romanian business folks. And the Chinese Uh and to evade taxes. And so the question ultimately to me, separate and apart from Hunter Biden's criminal liability, is whether or not the President was involved.

It's clear based on whistleblower testimony and testimony from Hunter Biden's former business partner that. At a minimum, the former Vice President, then Vice President, was engaged in conversation. What that rises to, obviously, is still to be determined. And I think the investigation is continuing. This is a continuation of the investigations that have been ongoing for eight months.

By the way, none of this ever would have come out had House Republicans not taken the majority. And it's districts like mine that ultimately gave us the majority. And so I think people need to, frankly, calm down a bit, allow the process to play itself out. Impeachment should not be political as it was under Nancy Pelosi. It should not be used as a tit-for-tat.

Uh I've said And I mean it, we're not there yet on impeachment. And I think people need to allow this process to play itself out. Let the facts and the evidence determine what, if any, next steps there are. Congressman Michael, my guess. They offered it unofficially.

Republicans feel like you feel. A lot more than I think are willing to say publicly, frankly, but the bottom line here is this. Wait. We are a nation of laws. Nobody is above the law.

There needs to be accountability and transparency. That's why you have oversight responsibility for Congress. There's certainly been damaging information and evidence that has come out that requires further investigation. And so that is what is happening. And the fact that you can actually determine it.

This backs up what you're saying. Here's a question from Queen of Piak. They put this out yesterday. Do you think Joe Biden was involved with his son's business dealings? 51% say yes, 37% say no.

I think it was 5% in 2020. And that's what the facts have done over the last eight months.

So I understand what you're saying. And by the way, even Jake Tapper on CNN just a few weeks ago played a clip of the President in the debate in 2020 where he said that Hunter Biden never got any money from China. That was a lie. That was a lie, and even Jake Tapper said it. And so we've obviously uncovered a lot of information through this investigatory process, but people need to allow that process to play itself out.

And you're talking to your own caucus. Congressman, you've got to talk to Matt Gates. You've got to talk to Marjorie Taylor Greene.

So, not necessarily my audience.

So, when you see these people from conservative districts, do they understand where you're serving? No, they don't have the first clue. And the reality is, they don't care, to be honest. They'd rather just throw bombs and cause havoc. Matt Gates has acted in such an irrational manner, talking about motions to vacate and trying to remove the speaker.

By the way, You if successful with emotion of AK, guess what happens? All these investigations, they grind to a halt.

So the stupidity here on the part of some of my colleagues, frankly, is mind numbing. But at the end of the day, I have a responsibility to act in the best interests of my district. uh to be sober and serious in dealing with these issues. And you have to allow the process to play out. The very people who are decrying the weaponization of the Department of Justice and the FBI.

now want Congress to do the exact same thing. And it doesn't work like that. We have to have a process. I want to hear what James Carville said: Cut 27. The people they have leading it.

Are not very smart. In fact, they're borderline stupid. I mean, James Comer or Jim Jordan. I don't think the White House needs to worry too much about this and let these congressional Democrats who are whip smart are just going to eat these people alive. I so want them to do this.

I can't tell you how much I want them to do. He believes the impeachment in his own crass way would save his party.

Well, listen, you go back to Bill Clinton, look at Donald Trump prior to COVID. Impeachment generally does not play out well. The American people ultimately are going to decide here. And if the facts and the evidence bear out, That Joe Biden was involved and benefited from, directly or indirectly, his son's business deals, the American people will understand that very succinctly. The ballot box will be the best.

And the ballot box will ultimately determine the outcome here. Gotcha. And I think it's not to say that, you know. We can't get to a point where impeachment comes up. But it's just, you know, we're not there yet.

And ultimately, the reality is if the facts are there, Then it's going to be very clear for people to understand. And also, it should be clear to everyone that Jim Jordan and James Comer. Anything but stupid. You might not like them. They might be too conservative for you.

But they're extremely smart.

So I'm just wondering. James Carvell's insults were way out of bounds. To be very frank, both of them have done their jobs very seriously. They have been above board in asking questions, demanding answers, and laying out the facts to the American people. He is New York Congressman Mike Lawler.

He's over in the 17th District. Congressman, best of luck in reelection. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it, Brian. Newsmakers and Newsbreakers, hear it first on The Brian Kilmead Show.

The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmead. This is not a payment of any kind. It's not ransom. These aren't U.S. taxpayer dollars.

And we haven't lifted a single one. of our sanctions on Iran. As you've heard us say before, When we're trying to bring Americans home, We often aren't dealing on a level playing field. We have to use the leverage we have. to bring them home.

They aren't going to be released for nothing. in exchange.

So this is another Sorry, swap of five of our guides for six of theirs, and a cost of six billion dollars of frozen funds. And what bothers me most is they actually expect the American people to believe. that these Iranians are only going to use this money for humanitarian purposes. That's nuts. Here's their former President, excuse me, yeah, former um Iranian president, CUD 28.

Do you believe you have the right to use that money in any way that you see fit? This money belongs to the Islamic Republic of Iran, and naturally we will decide the Islamic Republic of Iran will decide to spend it wherever we need it.

So Admiral Kirby. You know better. You know they're gonna go to Cutter and they're gonna say Here's my invoice. I wrote it in crayon. I'm going to use this for MREs for our poor people.

And they're going to use this to foment terror in the region. Everybody knows this. What's crazy is. Everybody in the region knows we know this. The American people know better.

Back in a moment. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. It was during the pandemic, and you know, I didn't leave home for 322 days. Yeah.

And so I was reading The Atlantic. And reading his column and being inspired and fortified by every week, every Thursday, there was another drop. and had a conversation with him. And afterwards I thought, wow, this is the kind of guy that if I was still doing the show, we would be calling him every day to be an expert on every subject. Then I invited him over for dinner.

Best dinner guest ever because you can probe his brain on happiness. And I thought, you know, we should do something together. And so now we are. Wow. And that just like that, Arthur Brooks has got a brand new book out with this woman named How do you say the last name?

Winfrey? Oprah Winfrey. It's called Build the Life You Want: The Art and Science of Getting Happier. Arthur, congratulations on the book. Thanks, Brian.

Great to see you again. Great to see you. I mean, you have not slowed down. You're doing a million things. That's what she wrote about.

That you just told me happened. But she also wrote about that in the book. If I had my show, Arthur Brooks would be on every week. Yeah, in 25 years, one of the things that she did was she'd find people that she thought America needed to hear from. Scientists, you know, all kinds of different people that could improve your life using different ideas.

And she would have them on again and again and again to answer different kinds of questions, but she doesn't ever show anymore.

So now, when she finds something that she thinks is good for America, she'll introduce it in different ways. And that was the genesis of this project. She read my stuff, she gave me a call. And you wrote a book about happiness, you teach a course about happiness. Yes, I teach happiness at people, I teach at the Harvard Business School.

And people say, oh, yeah, marketing, finance, accounting. And I say, no, I teach happiness. And they think I'm lying. But I'm not. It is a very oversubscribed class.

It's about the science of happiness. In other words, how you can take your happiness as seriously as you take your finances. And that's what this book is about.

So, you decide to take it to another level. For example, how do you define happy? Happiness is generally my students and everybody else, the biggest problem they have is they don't understand what it is. They think it's feelings and it's not. Feelings are evidence of happiness.

Happiness is kind of like you think about food, which has three macronutrients: protein, carbohydrates, and fat. Happiness has three parts to it that you need to have in balance and abundance: enjoyment, satisfaction, and purpose. Those are the three things. When I meet somebody for the first time at this point, look, I've been doing this work for years and years and years, I can tell where their deficits are in the same way that I can look at your macronutrient profile and say, Brian, man, you got to get your protein up. I can tell people, I can ask them very simple questions to see if they have enough purpose in their life, enough meaning.

I can ask them about how they're trying to get satisfaction if they're in the wrong vein. And the biggest thing that I hear, especially from young people, people in their 20s, they think they're trying to enjoy their life and they're actually in pursuit of pleasure. And pleasure and enjoyment are not the same thing. And so I can readjust their happiness. Happiness diet, and that's what we talk about in the book: is you can get happier if you have the knowledge and do the work.

The biggest problem is purpose. Yeah. And that's what happened in the pandemic. People said, wait, I could go home. They'll pay me, and maybe my job is not that important.

You know, do I really want to be doing this? Right.

You know, and people have a lack of purpose and mission. They do. And one of the problems in America, we find that happiness has been in gradual decline for actually a long time, since the early 1990s. And one of the biggest reasons is that people feel like they have less meaning in their lives.

Now, the institutions of meaning in our lives are pretty easy. Our faith, our family, our real friendships, not deal friends, real friends, and serving other people through our work. But all these things are in decline. People are less likely to practice their faith. They're more likely to be estranged from their families.

They have people that are useful to them, but they're not real friends anymore. And people, they think, you know, what's my work for? I don't know. I just earned my daily bread. And these are huge problems.

So I actually have a little test that we can actually give the audience.

Okay. I can give you this test. Want to take the meaning test? Let's do.

Okay. I'm going to ask you two questions. And you have a meaning problem if you don't have real answers to these questions. But the good news is if you don't, then you know what to look for.

Okay. Okay. Question number one. Why are you alive? Why am I alive?

I that's a good I think it's a nonstop mission to find out your role here. Yes, and it's tricky, right? Right, right. It gets harder. Second question.

For what would you be willing to die today, Brian? For what? I would say a family, country. Yeah. Yeah.

Now I know people are listening to this. I would be willing to die. I mean, in a circumstance, if there was like a baby in the middle of a street, would I jump in front of the car and throw the kid out? I'd like to think yes. Yeah.

But you think about it. It's very important to have these questions front and center for a true sense of meaning. I have three adult kids. We have kids. I mean, you're a little younger than me, but we have grown-up kids.

I got 22, 20, 22, and 26. Yeah, I have 25, 23, and 20 are my kids. My 25 and 23-year-olds are both married. I'm a grandfather. Wow.

Yeah, no, it's unbelievable. But my 23-year-old who's married, when he was in high school, he didn't have answers to those questions. I would ask him the question. I don't know why I'm alive. Dad, I don't know why I'm alive.

He was miserable.

So we put him on a mission. He didn't go to college. He went and worked on a dryland wheat farm in Idaho to find the answers to the questions. And then he joined the Marines. Wow.

He went through infantry training battalion, and then he went through the in doc for the Scout Sniper program. He's a special ops Marine. And now I ask him those questions. 23-year-old married. His name is Carlos.

Carlos, why are you alive? Because God made me to serve. For what are you willing to die? For my faith, for my family. For my Fellow Marines, and for the United States of America.

Right.

Boom. I mean, it's like an immediate answer. And the result he's happy. And as soon as he had those answers, he married the woman he loved. And I said, You realize that you're going to be wearing that ring in your coffin, right?

He's like, Of course, of course. He's faithful to it. But this is super important that we have, and America is losing its sense of meaning because we don't have those answers. You know, who's Kay, he found out for himself. He didn't wait for his dad to tell him.

Totally. And it wouldn't have mattered what I told him because I have my answers to those questions. Everybody listening to us has to have their answers to those questions. That's the material that Oprah and I put in this book. It's a very practical way to use the science to find the happiness that we all seek.

So. A lot of people, you say you find a lot of those answers in religion. A lot, and not just religion, but it's faith writ large.

Now, I have my faith. I'm a Roman Catholic. It's literally the most important thing in my life. I practice my faith.

Well, you know, in my 20s, I was a slacker, but I grew up in a Christian family. And now, you know, I'm in my 50s. I go to Mass every day. I pray with my wife every night. And part of the reason is because this is the way that you maintain a good marriage.

The most intimate thing that you can do with your spouse, and I'm not going to say a bad thing. is to pray together. That's literally the most intimate thing. What makes you think that? Because I actually see the data on that, and I see that that's what people are most embarrassed to do with their beloved people around them.

Not every couple.

Some people are going, like, what? It's the easiest thing ever. No, I know lots of Christian couples and couples of other religions that don't pray together because it feels too weird.

So, if you want to have a more intimate relationship, that's it. But if you practice something in faith or spirituality or philosophy or a sense of life's transcendence and mysticism that's not traditional religion, you can get a lot of the same benefit because it makes you small and the rest of the universe big, and you need that perspective. If you want to take the time to get a mission with your life. Are you blowing up your importance too much?

Well, no, it actually isn't because you're looking for the things outside you that you're dedicating yourself to. What I recommend that, and what Oprah and I recommend in this book, is that everybody write their own personal mission statement, which is really important. For me, you know, I use science and ideas to lift people up and bring them together in bonds of happiness and love. And, you know, I have a company and I teach at the university and I have a lot of stuff going on, but it has an order of operations based on my mission. Everything I do has to follow this order: glorify God, serve others, have an adventure, make a living in that order.

Making a living is last. And it's a very privileged thing, I realize. But it's super important that we keep these ideas together. And all of that stuff has to do with things outside me. And so when you look for your personal mission, you're looking for the things outside you that complete you.

You're not just looking in the mirror.

Well, how long did it take you to get that criteria?

Well, it took me a long time. I've been studying happiness for 30 years. I mean, I got my PhD in 1998, and I was dedicating myself to a lot of things that were around happiness. I wrote my first. First big happiness book in 2008, but it took me a long time to figure out how to use it in my life.

You know, I was the president of the American Enterprise Institute before, a think tank in Washington, D.C. That's where you and I met, you know, when I was doing that work. And I would think, why am I not happy? Why am I not happy? And finally, my wife said, Don't you have a PhD?

I mean, don't you study human behavior? Why don't you apply it to yourself?

So I started using the happiness science to create a strategy for myself. And it worked so unbelievably well that I left my job. I went to teach it. But you had a very important job. That was a great job.

It was a great job. It was a great job. I truly believed in it. The American Enterprise Institute dedicated to bringing the free enterprise system to people at every part of our society so they can have opportunity. I loved it.

It was so good. But for my own life, I needed to share these ideas of the science of happiness with other people. That was my life's work. And I didn't figure that out until I actually applied the theories to good old me. And that's what we're doing in the book: everybody can have this information that I share with my students at Harvard.

So, what year did you leave AEI? 2019.

So, were you not happy leading up to that? Did you have moments where you were happy? For sure, like we all do. Life is a series of moments, and we have to understand that happiness is not the ultimate goal because you can't be constantly happy this side of heaven. You need bad feelings, you need negative emotions.

They literally keep you alive. You need negative experience to learn and grow, but you can get happier with the right information.

So, the word happy is almost misdefined because you always hear this with sports. You know, let the kids play if they're happy. If it's not fun, don't do it. But part of fun and happiness is having a mission. Yeah.

And as you do that, you're going to win, you're going to lose. Why are you doing it? Do you know you're upset because I lost today? But I'm. I can't wait to get back and do it again.

Are you pursuing happiness? Yeah. I'm pursuing it. Do you think that Thomas Jefferson knew the definition when he put it in the Declaration of Independence? He was talking about how we would actually pursue a life fully alive on our own terms.

That's really what he meant. And so when Thomas Jefferson talked about it, he actually. Was taking that, he almost certainly took dictation from Benjamin Franklin. That was a Benjamin Franklin idea, the pursuit of happiness. And what that really was was.

He did a lot of dictation. Yeah, yeah, I know. He kind of cribbed most of the declaration from Virginia Declaration of Rights. And that part about happiness, he was probably listening to Thomas, Benjamin Franklin. And what they were talking about was to democratize the idea that you could set up your life as you see fit and you could pursue it, even if your riffraff, which is like the Kilmeades and the Brookses, were not like some landed gentry.

They were not like on the boat coming over going, hey, can't wait to go to a better country of more plentiful income redistribution. No, it was. Better in Ireland with kill meets, right? But this is the thing. And what they were promising was: you get here, play by the rules, work hard, personal responsibility, figure out what happiness means for you, man.

And this is the place where you can pursue it. And that's what we all still need to do. It's such a beautiful thing when we understand it. When you talk to your elite students to get in there, you would assume, unless someone made up a sports scholarship that they didn't have. Do they are they curious?

As curious as this? Do do you find that Kids who have a lot. Most likely, either huge brains or big wallets or both. Are they more, yeah, or both? Are they more apt to understand this?

No, no, no, no, it's because this stuff doesn't come naturally. Mother Nature doesn't care if we're happy. Mother Nature has two goals for us: to survive and pass on your genes. We always think, oh, yeah, you know, if it feels good, do it. Like the hippies used to say at Woodstock.

It's the way to ruin your life. My dad, I remember hearing that from hippie saying that when I was a little kid, he's like, that's the end of America. He was kind of right. I mean, it was, I mean, really? The truth of the matter is that you need to actually take the divine path, not the animal path in your life.

You need to understand what's going on. You need to create a structure for your life. Look, your life is the only startup that really matters. You, Inc., and you need to be the entrepreneur, and you got to do hard things, and easy things, and beautiful things, and fun things, and things that actually create pain, and then you'll be on the path to health. Happierness.

So, Arthur Brooks is in the studio. He wrote a book with Oprah Winfrey. It's called Build a Life You Want: The Art and Science of Getting Happier. More with Arthur in just a moment. Book's out this week, right?

Last Tuesday. Yeah, it's right. It's on sale, man. I'm pretty sure this is built to win. We're hoping it's doing unbelievably well.

Back in a moment. Learning something new every day on the Brian Killmead Show. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. You don't have any happiness sound bites, Eric, to bump in with?

You don't?

Okay. We are back. Arthur Brooks is here. He and Oprah Winfrey wrote this book. It's number one in the country, right?

Yeah, right now it is, yeah. It's called Build the Life You Want: The Art and Science of Getting Happier. During the pandemic, Oprah reached out because she was reading your column and said, I got to meet this guy. And you thought what when she called? Yeah, she said, you know, this is Oprah Winfrey and I said, Yeah, this is Batman.

I mean, no way. But it was the voice. And it's great because, you know, when I write a column every Thursday morning in the Atlantic called How to Build a Life. It's about happiness and the science of happiness. And it has a half a million readers, sometimes a million readers, depending.

You know, I've got a lot of people who read the column. You don't know who. You never know if it's Oprah Winfrey reading your column. You don't know. And then, and it's incredibly gratifying that you can touch a lot of people in different walks of life, and she has an opportunity.

In her career, because she's so well known and she's so well respected, and people listen to her, that when she talks about something, it makes people interested in it.

So she uses a lot of her platform to direct people's attention to beautiful things that they can use. And this was, in her opinion, something that people needed to know more about. And also, she's an example of someone with anything but a perfect upbringing. A lot of people listening to us right now say, well, if you had my background, if you had my stress, you would. You would not be happy.

Yeah, oh, totally. I mean, the whole idea is the most amazing thing. And people say, well, yeah, Oprah Winfrey, of course, she can write about happiness. She's a billionaire, but that's insanity. That's actually not true at all.

I mean, I've met a lot of people of great net worth, and they're actually not happier. No, I get it. If you're really poor and struggling to make the rent and you can't get adequate health care, those are unbelievable sources of anxiety. But, you know, most of the people listening to us, they're paying the rent, they're getting three squares. And the truth is, a lot of them are a lot happier than billionaires.

Part of the reason is because they're doing a lot of things right in their lives, in their faith, in their family, in their friendships, and in their communities, and all the things that you need, because happiness is not money. Happiness is love. But. I think when you say to yourself, How do I make myself happy?

Sometimes it comes off as egotistical.

Well, you know, excuse me, why are you so important that you have to be happy? Yeah, no, you know, and doesn't that work against what you're trying to say? Yeah, and that's one of the things we talk about in the book. A lot of people who think I want to be happy, I want to attain ultimate happiness, to begin with, you won't. It can't happen on this side of heaven.

It just doesn't, because what you need is to get happier. You need bad feelings, but you need to understand them, manage them, learn from them, and grow from them. That's really part of a fulfilling life. It's what you're talking about when your kids are in sports. I don't want my kids to win every game.

I want my kids to, my daughter's a collegiate rugby player. Wow. Yeah, yeah. She's 4'11 in heels. I mean, 100 pounds soaking wet.

It's unbelievable. She's very fast, is you know, what is the way it works. But, you know, I don't want my daughter to be, you know, to win every single game because she wouldn't have a full life experience. The truth is, one of the biggest mistakes that young people make today is they're the sort of the anti-hippies. The hippies where if it feels good, do it.

For a lot of young people today, if it feels bad, make it stop. If I'm suffering in any way, treat it.

Something's wrong with me if I'm feeling pain. No, that's completely wrong. If you're in your 20s and you're not depressed and anxious, something's wrong with you. All right, I'll take a step back. You're deep.

Why is it? than almost everybody you talk to. Feels great helping somebody. Yeah, the reason is because when you help somebody else, you open up your soul to love. That's what you're doing.

Happiness is love. And the way that you get love is by giving it. That's the truth.

Now, we're not evolved, once again, to be happy. We're evolved to pass on our genes and to survive. And so the things that we do to help other people, they don't always come naturally, but that's the hack. That's the glitch in Mother Nature's matrix. If you immediately, right now, it's like it's funny.

I was doing a show the other day, and a member of the audience said, I don't like my job and it's making me unhappy. It's a boring job, and I think it's trivial. I sit in a cubicle all day long. What should I do? And I said, here's the answer: when you feel that, get up, look at the person in the next cubicle, go to the break room, and bring that person, bring her a fresh cup of coffee.

Even though she didn't ask for it, and look at the smile that actually forms on her face, and then start doing that a couple of times every day, and then you'll become a different person. You'll become that guy in the office that's always just for no reason doing nice things for people. And in a month, you'll say, I like my job better. I don't know why. Yeah.

That's so interesting. You also take action, right? Absolutely. It's all about the book. That's one thing to do.

We wrote it for, it's our expression of love, and we wrote it for everybody who wants it. Listen, we all can't get in to take your class. This is the best thing. The art and science of getting happier. Build the life you want.

Arthur Brooks, thanks so much. And Oprah, thank you too, wherever you are. Thank you. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music with your Prime Membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Mm.