From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.
So glad you're here. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. We're back in action today. And this is a UN week. We got a privilege to have a lot of great people in the studio, one of which, to my immediate right, if you're watching on Fox Nation, you recognize him.
Montana Congressman, former Secretary of the Interior, Ryan Zinke's here, and that Navy SEAL thing is also on your resume. Bottom of the hour, right after that, former CIA Director, Secretary of State, number one in his class at West Point, Mike Pompeo, will be here. And who knows, he might even be running with Donald Trump. Before we get to the congressman from Montana, let's get to the big three.
Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. We've asked for 40% pay increases, and the reason we asked for 40% pay increases is because in the last four years alone, the CEO pay went up 40%. They're already millionaires. Wow, and that is the UAW, why I think the autoworkers' strike means a lot more to the rest of the country, almost as much as it means to those men and those women on strike.
We'll discuss. Number two. The one thing the American public has to understand is there's a strategy behind everything. We only follow facts. Hunter Biden will get subpoenaed, but when's the appropriate time?
Right. Why I believe the impeachment inquiry is legit. It's about finding the truth and Biden loyalists stopping documents and evidence. If they just let those documents go, they wouldn't need to do the inquiry. Number one.
The Republicans are going to shoot themselves in the foot in the run-up to the 2024 election if they continue to think that shutdowns are a great way to put themselves in front of the American people. Is shutdown averted? Perhaps. Maybe, maybe not. A framework was released that would extend the budget talks for at least to the end of October.
We're going to examine the terms of that deal and why all the posturing has to stop. And guess what? You chose to go back into this, Congress and Dinky.
Now we're talking shutdown again. What day is it? All right.
Well, you know, I remain a Reagan optimist. And look, I came to town in D.C. back to do two things: one, curb the spending and get rid of the woke. And we all agreed as a Republican caucus that we would go back to regular order and we do the hard work in appropriations.
So I don't get it why anyone would vote against, say, a Holman appropriation bill. People ask me, what does that bill look like? It's about 32 feet tall and about 1,000 miles long. We restore the Border Patrol, we give ICE, we give them the incentives, we give them the rules of engagement to shut down the border. If you think this is okay for a border, then vote against that bill.
But we got to get the appropriation bills passed. And look at defense. I understand the argument in Ukraine. Personally, I would segregate out Ukraine dollars and ask for two things. And Brian, I've been in a lot of wars in my life, and I have.
And I've never even been in an operation without objectives and a plan.
So, give me a plan on what our objectives are in Ukraine. Show me a plan how to get there, and then we'll match the resources. But a blank check is never a good idea. Just I do want to get into Ukraine separately, but I want to ask you this: this is what I woke up to today: the House GOP strikes an internal deal to avert the government shutdown until October 31st. I talked to you and Mike Walsh this morning and said, You just got it, it's over 100 pages.
Already, Scott Perry says this is good. Already, we hear Matt Rosendale from your state, this is bad. You have very little margin forever. Steve Scalise is going through cancer surgery, a couple of people with paternity.
So, you can't have anybody not sign on to this. Look, and why do you come to DC if your answer is no before you get here?
So, we agreed we'd go through the appropriation process, and I think we've got veterans all the way through.
So, we kept veterans whole. We raised Defense 3. Do I think we ought to reorganize? Absolutely. And then, home.
Yeah Defending our country is not important to you. If securing the border is not important to you, and keeping our vets hole is not important, then vote no. But look, I'm all for you got to pass the appropriation bills, and even a handful, send them over to the Senate. If the Senate doesn't pick them up, hey, you know what? We'll shut down the government to the degree we can.
But I can tell you, there's a lot of people that are going to get hurt. How about the E five that doesn't have his paycheck? You know, that means he's got probably going to miss his rent. He's probably going to miss a car payment. His family is going to suffer.
Do you really want to shut down the government and restrict the E-5 pay? Not me. I want to fix the government and let's get through the appropriation bills sent over the Senate. I think the Senate, quite frankly, is scared that the House may actually get something done, as we did with the debt ceiling. Was it as big as I wanted?
No, but we got something done. And now the appropriations, again, the two objectives: curb the spending, get rid of the woke. And it was like a tea party celebration in appropriations because we were throwing everything woke overboard. Do you really think that the military should be paying for sex change operations and hormone therapy? I can tell you the answer is no.
Right. But that's something Joe Biden is proud of. Here is Democratic Senator Mark Warner, cut three.
So you believe we are headed for a government shutdown? I would like to say no. But we're eight or nine days away, and we've not even been able to see the house pass the most basic defense appropriations bills. I hope and pray that Speaker McCarthy will say, Hey, I'm going to throw over the far right and I'm going to put together a bipartisan effort with the Democrats and mainstream Republicans to keep the government funding. I think that would get.
Again, 350, 400 votes. Your reaction.
Well, number one, on the House appropriation bills, we didn't get a lot of help on bipartisanship. Matter of fact, I think we got zero, maybe one or two votes. But by and large, the appropriation bills are Republican product, and we've got to get them out of Republican House. You know, step one. And then they go to the Senate and you battle things out back and forth.
But, you know, among the Republican caucus, those few that will vote for nothing, even though we all agreed we're going to go through the process. We'll see. You know, I'm an optimist. A lot of us theater. I think this week is going to kind of determine the trailer, so to speak, whether we're going to have a horror film or a drama or whatever.
We'll get through it. And I think there's a lot of us that, hey, we were sent to D.C., curb the spinning, get rid of the woke. That's what the appropriation bills do, and let's go forward. Here's what Hakeem Jeffery said about you guys, cut 10. This is an illegitimate impeachment inquiry.
It's a product of the House Republican Civil War. Why in the world, in the middle of all the issues that we are trying to tackle, all of the problems that we are trying to solve on behalf of the American people, would House Republicans inject this illegitimate impeachment inquiry?
So he says it's a sideshow and you guys are in a civil war. There's one thing called big old truth.
So this is what we know. As we've uncovered, and look, we're in a lot different position than what we were in the beginning of the year.
So now we have this shell number of LOCs. We know the money came into them. We know the oligarchs. We know China. We know all these people that are in the middle of the middle.
Suspicious activity reports by the Treasury. And then what is important on an inquiry, remember the House itself can only investigate things that are legislative. And so the House cannot investigate wrongdoing unless there is a legislative.
So up to now, you have the three generals I call them. You have Smith, Comer, and Jordan, all have gone to where there is evidence and follow the money.
So the next step is, as an inquiry, then we can get personal bank records and see if the money came from one of the oligarchs to the LLC and then was distributed to President Biden himself. All roads lead to Rome. That's where the inquiry is there. And it's about truth and transparency. And I think we got our best generals on it.
And when they tell me it is time to impeach, I will listen to them. They told me it is time for an impeachment inquiry. It gives them the authority to do it. I am 100 percent behind them. All right.
So Ukraine, 58% of the American public, polled by CBS, disapprove of the way Joe Biden is handling Ukraine. Hey, no surprise on that. Look at Afghanistan and everything else that this team's done. Um They thought it was going to fall in three days.
Now we're over a year, and now we're going to head into another winter session. We end up giving them the Patriot, we said we wouldn't. We end up giving them high Mars, we said we wouldn't. We're going to end up giving them 31 tanks that haven't arrived yet. We said we're not going to give them F-16s.
We're training them.
Somebody else has given them. What is the theory behind slow walking the weapon systems that we eventually give while people die in the interim?
Well, Brian, this is the problem I've had. You know, I've been to a lot of battles in my life, and I have. And I haven't even been on one operation that didn't have objectives and a plan. And I've asked at the highest levels: what are the objectives and what's the plan? Is the objective for, say, to weaken Russia?
Well, I think Russia is weakened. Is the objective to take the Crimean Peninsula, which to a Russian perspective would be analogous to taking back the Mississippi River? That's Russia's only warm water port.
So, what are our objectives? But they didn't deserve it, they just stole it back. They clearly had a Delta region. But I want to know, I think the American people want to know: look, we're $140 or $30 billion into it. We're sending cluster bombs and indiscriminate weapons systems over there.
What's the end state? And I don't believe in a blank check.
So I believe America and Congress need the answers from this administration. What are the objectives and what's the plan to get the standard? Let's just look at the positives. Here's the positives. Number one: NATO came together and got two more very quality, top-quality countries that are not going to be a burden on NATO.
They're an asset: Norway and Sweden, not in Finland.
Next. Mm. The other thing that's a positive is we're exposing Russia, absolutely weakening Russia, by watching Ukraine really outperform them on the battlefield. 100%. But it's costing us a lot of money, and we're depleting our stocks, and there's no plan to restock.
Well, and we also know that our technology is superior. I think everyone was shocked that, you know, when Russia invaded, and it's about conventional power projection capability, this was a country on their adjacent border. The U.S. can project power to faraway places like Afghanistan. What about Mexico?
And look, Ukraine wasn't Pakistan. It wasn't China in the beginning.
So Ukraine was a mid-tier, and Russia had trouble almost immediately and has had trouble since.
So Russia isn't the conventional power, but Russia is dangerous. Look, if you don't think President Putin is a war criminal, look at the definition. But he's a very, very dangerous man, and I think you've got to respect that he does have. Nuclear capability. But do you think he would, from what you've seen so far, on what level of risk are we looking at?
Oh, when when it comes to the Crimean Peninsula, I think the risk is significant. Uh there's been fourteen wars fought over the ground. Uh it was the rushes for Centuries, it's been Ukraine recently. But again, it's Russia's only warm water port. That's where their fleet is.
And I think the Americans need to know: look, we're at risk.
So you think Crimea, if they get there, you should stop? I think at the end of the day, you can't give Russia and Putin the land that he Made this invasion for. I think Crimean Peninsula is a different problem set. He's weakened, but I do think we need a plan. And there's some brilliant strategists in there that can come up with one and articulate objectives.
But I think a blank check is a really, really bad idea. Which it's virtually accountability would be something Republicans would demand and need. The other thing is the the ability to explain to the American people what we're doing.
So right now, people go, our border is breaking. Why are we giving money to Ukraine? Oh, we need money in the cities. Why are we giving money to Ukraine? They're really two different things.
But because there's nobody with a message. You're allowed just to run wild. And the next time you hear about Ukraine, I need $24 billion. Excuse me. We need $24 billion.
We appreciate Zelensky, appreciated Harold working. I think it's worth our. I remember World War II. I remember what happened after. Why what happened after World War I that led to World War II?
I get it. And if you give this guy Ukraine, he's going for the Baltics next, Moldova the next day, and little by little, he's going to threaten and start having regime change in Poland and Romania. And within 10, 15 years, that will be their goal.
Well, and remember, they're saddling up now. You have maritime operations with Iran, Russia, China. They're doing joint military operations. Clearly, they're shifting. North Korea is different.
North Korea is now in the mix. You you got a surveillance uh site now in Cuba, which could easily go to electronic magnetic pulse or or something offensive in in Cuba. Remember the old missile crisis?
Well, China's now back in in in lieu of Russia.
So there's a lot of issues, and I think you're spot on. It boils down to leadership. When there's a lack of leadership, but to avoid a leadership, what happens is other entities fill that spot. And they're depending on Ryan Zinke and Mike Waltz and Lindsey Graham and Mike McCall and Jack Keene to explain their mission. This is their story, and they're depending on Republicans to explain it.
And a lot of them say, I'm bailing. I don't like your tactics. I don't like your lack of accountability. You're not checking with me on anything. Why am I hopping on the Sunday shows selling the American people Ukraine?
Well, in Ukraine, you know, weapon systems like cluster bombs. You were against that. I tell you, I've been there, I've been to battle, cluster bombs, these indiscriminate long-range weapon systems that can hit Moscow. I don't think they're a good idea.
So you wouldn't give them attack'ems. You know what? I would cluster bombs and what I what I really didn't like is, well, we're going to use cluster bombs to breach the minefields. Come on. One is minefields have unexplosive ordnance in it by the very fact they're a minefield.
And now you're going to introduce a system that will also inject more unexploded ordnance onto it.
So that's not why you use cluster bombs. You use cluster bombs.
So you feel like they're lying to you by saying that.
Well, the same thing with a Russian balloon. Have we got any really answered? Or a Chinese balloon? Have we got any good answers out of this administration? What was in it?
What was in it? So we took immediate action. It floated all the way across the U.S. And it took a Montana writer, right, to be able to say Billions Gazette. Great job, Billions Gazette.
But I mean, come on, and then they lied.
So, well, we didn't want to shoot it down, you remember, because we were afraid of collateral damage. Petroleum County, Montana, has 434 good citizens in it. That is one less than Congress. I can tell you the chances of hitting something in Petroleum County is far less than off the coast of Myrtle Beach. Comically still hot.
Congressman, great to see you. What are you doing today? I'm going to be doing the media, cast and look, Republicans. If you're out there conservatives, you better call your congressman and say, look, we've ought to be voting for this homeless security bill, because if you're not going to vote for homeless security, I don't know why you're here. Congressman Ryan Zinke, great to see you.
Great to see you. And we'll see if Trump calls your name and if you put up your hand if he wins. You know what? President Trump is more than a candidate at this point. He's a movement.
It's a movement, guys, and that's why he'll be the nominee. This is a movement. All right, Congressman. I have to move to break. You understand we have to answer to somebody, even though I seem like I'm in charge.
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The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. Congressman Zinke, in a little bit of your time, Secretary Mike Pompeo, great to see you. Iran just came, just arrived here. I guess the President, fresh off his $6 billion infusion of capital, and just the prisoner exchange.
I understand the Americans are safe and exchanged. Your reaction? Happy to have them home. Terrified of what that means for Americans traveling all across the world. We now have allowed the extortion racket in Iran to grow.
We've put a price on American heads. It's a billion bucks a piece, call it, just for simple Kansas math. And we know this. This will incentivize the Iranians, the North Koreans. We've seen what Putin has done.
They'll take more Americans. And so the way you get prisoners home is American power. You punish people. Who take Americans hostage? It's what we did.
We got Pastor Brunson home. We didn't pay a nickel. I brought back three Americans who were imprisoned in North Korea. We didn't pay a nickel. Instead, now we pay ransom, a billion bucks a person.
And you can bet that Iran will hold an American before too long. And we now know what the price is this administration. You wonder why Saudi Arabia is starting to speak to Iran again? Because we don't have their back. Ah, think about where that $6 billion will go.
The administration tells us it's going to go for humanitarian aid. Yes, if you consider ballistic missiles aimed at Israel humanitarian aid, then yeah, I suppose it's true. I mean, it's farcical. No one believes, Brian, that the money they're getting is going to go for good for the Iranian people. Mike Pompeo is going to stick around.
He's got also a great announcement about a new film he has out, a documentary from Israel, which sounds fantastic, and it's going to be in theaters too. He ran the CIA. He was a congressman from Kansas. He was Secretary of State. And who knows, maybe a vice presidential candidate when it's all said and done.
We'll see. Don't move. Brian Killmeech. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmead.
They were so naive. And I got briefed. Verbally on some of this is a hostage swap. For six billion dollars, they don't know how to do hostage negotiations. And guess where it's going to go?
It's gonna go into terror proxy operations. It's gonna go into building their nuclear, you know, their nuclear, not defense system, but offensive system. For a nuclear war. And also, just today, this morning, the Saudi said: hey, this deal with Israel you're trying to negotiate. More out.
It's having a damaging effect throughout the Middle East. It all started with this very naive Transaction of $6 billion. Imagine what Iran's going to do with $6 billion.
So that was Congressman Mike McCall, Chairman of Foreign Relations in the House, knows his stuff, puts the time in, and does the traveling, as does my next guest, Mike Pompeo, who I just had him comment quickly, former Secretary of State, CIA director, author of Never Give an Inch, and he's got a movie he wants to talk about, and I can't wait to hear the details called Route 60, the Biblical Highway. There was something he just said in that I didn't know. The Saudis, who were trying to extend what you might call the extension of the Abraham Accords, they were going to normalize relations with Israel. They said they're out. I had not seen that either.
That was news to me. I know lots of folks were working on this. Obviously, extending the Abraham Accords is a good thing in principle. The fact that the Saudis may be out, if that's true, I think it's very telling. It's telling about a group of our friends in LS who just simply don't trust us, and they don't think our adversaries fear us.
When you give the Iranians, who are firing missiles into Saudi Arabia almost every day out of Yemen through the Houthi proxies, right? Think about this. The Saudis are suffering missile attacks from the very country that the United States just gave $6 billion to. That is nuts. It's dangerous for the Saudis.
It's really dangerous for our friends in Israel. It's bad for America, too. You know what's so interesting is why would you be chairman of foreign relations as a senator, vice president with a portfolio with a lot of international assignments in it from Ukraine on down, not understand that when you call Saudi Arabia a pariah nation, you're building up Iran? And did you go to school for the last two years? Saudi Arabia giving permission, in my view, of these Sunni nations to do those normalization deals with Iran.
If they didn't want to do that, Bahrain and others would not have done it.
So you were working towards Saudi Arabia. When you call them a pariah nation and then say, why are gas prices? Why is production going down? How could they not see these pieces? The progressive left demanded that we take retribution for what happened in Saudi Arabia.
They're just so fixated on that that they can't help themselves. The Khashoggi incident. They're so fixated on that. And it's terrible. And you got to.
Murder's bad. The Saudis were connected to it. That's bad. But it's a tough world out there. And for America, and President Trump and I had this part right, we've got to do the things that keep Americans safe.
We don't want our boys and girls to go fight and die in the Middle East. And the way to do that is build out peace with the Emiratis, with the Bahrainis, with the Sudanese, with the Moroccans. We did that, and we are on our way to doing it with the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. There's no doubt that Mohammed bin Salman allowed the other countries to do this, right? He was on board with what we were doing.
And now they've just thrown this all away by not enforcing sanctions against Iran and giving them $6 billion. I have so many different things to talk to you about, but just to finish this off. If they go, how could Congress be circumvented by a deal that they do separately? Like, for example, they're looking to do some type of nuclear deal, and they know they can't go through the Senate and the House. Even their own Senate.
Schumer didn't want the last deal. Menendez voted against that.
So people forget about that. He doesn't want to talk about that.
So, what kind of deal, what would this deal be like? It'll kind of be like the JCPOA. It's the Seinfeld of deals. There's no document, there's no signatures. There's just a bunch of winks and nods and handshakes and back rooms.
Why would Iran do that? Because they were upset that the new administration came in and ignored it, which was you guys. Because they're getting everything they want, because they're getting to continue to enrich uranium, because they're getting to build out their proxies, the Hezbollah guys, the Iraqi militias. They're getting $6 billion. They're literally getting all the sanctions that were put in place on the JCPOA expire over the course of the next 24 months.
Many of them have already expired. The Iranians, they don't need a deal. They don't need Senate approval. They'd love to have it. But they know they can't get it, and so they'll just take everything for free.
We're seeing a counterinsurgency that's starting to reap some dividends. They're starting to get some of their land back. I evidently heard, evidently, they've gotten 50% of the land that. Russia took when they blitzed in a year and a half ago.
So you have 50 percent back.
So they're working towards it. They've gotten two or three towns moving forward, but they have no air cover and they don't have the demining capacity, which is not expensive, to start going through some of these fields for these unmotivated Russians who can't retreat or they're going to get shot and assassinated. What's your assessment of the operation right now? I know you. Have you been on the ground?
I was on the ground. It's been four or five months since I was on the ground. Uh but you know It's precisely what you described, Brian. What we've done is we've just piecemealed the resources to the Ukrainians, and the result of that is there's more dead Ukrainian kids. We should have given the Ukrainians everything they needed right at the front end, and this might just be over.
But now we just dribble it out. We might give them ATECMs, we might give them some of these other tools. You're right. These guys are crossing minefields with no air cover. I was an armor officer a long time ago.
That is hard work. Has that been done? No, in modern times, it's hard to describe a battlefield like this that. You know, post-dates, World War I or World War II, depending on how you want to describe it. When you don't have air cover, the capacity for the bad guys to slow you up is tremendous.
And we could have helped them, and President Biden simply chose not to do that. You know what's crazy? And I don't know who there is. For example, in the Bush administration, Rumsfeld could command a room. Colin Powell could command a room.
Andy Card wouldn't want to, but he could. And Dick Cheney certainly could. He can go on all the Sunday shows. Whatever you think their message is, they can do it. There is nobody on this administration.
I mean, Bernstein is pretty good on the economy. You know, he'll talk to you, but nobody communicates why we're there.
So I sit in this room and I see the need to defend Ukraine and help them. But I talk to Jack Keene and Lindsey Graham. But these are the guys communicating for an administration whose tactics they can't support. But I want you to hear what Mike Turner said yesterday with Margaret Brennan, Cut 30. The White House is going to announce additional capabilities.
They've said that. Do they get the long-range missiles to Ukraine that they're asking for, the ATACOMs? I hope they do. I mean, the administration has consistently said no to everything Ukraine has said multiple times publicly and then ultimately recanted and provided them. What we know from this era of the conflict, Ukraine is still on the offensive, which was the goal of the offensive.
Russia is on the defensive. There are a number of impediments that are making it difficult for that offensive to push Russia out. And at the same time, Ukraine has to get additional ground and/or longer-range weapons to put Crimea at risk, which is where some of the assaults are coming from that are killing Ukrainians.
So if you're Mike Turner, you know the mission is worthy, but not the tactics.
So what do you say? He used to be in Congress. Yeah, he's got it exactly right. You do the right thing. You get the strategy right for the United States of America.
But the administration is not listening. You have to hope they start to listen, and then you have to hope that they'll eventually tell the American people the story. This is why this matters. It's not just about Ukraine. This is a bigger geostrategic problem set that we're staring at.
And President Biden has not had it. He hasn't done 9 o'clock Oval Office, speak straight to the American people, say, this is why it matters, not to the Ukrainians, but this is why it matters to you, living in Tennessee or Arizona or Washington. This is why it matters to you. And he needs to do it. But, Mr.
Secretary, you've seen him speak. He he cannot get through a sentence. I have not seen a moment. I mean, I haven't seen an interview that even when he is clear, he'll say something so bizarre. I don't think that's an option.
Maybe. We need it. The country needs it. The world needs it. It's an expectation that we should have for a president.
If you've got to read the script, read the darn script. But tell the American people from the highest office in the land why it is it's important that we ensure that Vladimir Putin doesn't move on Kyiv or Warsaw or the Baltics or any place else. This is an important mission for the United States. We can do it. We can help them.
They haven't asked for our boys and girls, Brian. They've just asked for stuff. We ought to provide it. You know, after reading your book and seeing what your resume says and knowing that you're in the prime of your life and your age, I thought for sure, I thought it was 90 percent in my gut that you were running for president. When you see those very talented men and women, in my view, on stage of the debate.
And see, they're still trailing President Trump by 40 points. Does that make you think you made the right decision? Oh, Brian, I'm confident I made the right decision for Susan and for me and for our family. It just wasn't our moment. I've enjoyed the conversation that's being had.
I hope that will continue. I hope it doesn't evolve into name-calling and mean tweets. I hope it's truly about the substantive things, the things you and I speak about. If that debate is had, American people, Republican primary voters, will sort this out, and we'll see what happens come February, March, and April. Do you think it'll be a 40-point gap in February, March, and April with all your political experience?
History would suggest it'll close up.
So I fully expect that it will. By the way, if it closes up from 40 to 20, that's still a historic gap.
So a long ways to go for sure. How did you feel about Pence Haley, Ambassador? Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy go and add it on their foreign policy. Forget Ukraine, Taiwan. As soon as we get our chips out, we're not going to worry about it.
What's your Phivek's very smart. He's got this one wrong. You can't say you're going to defend Taiwan for just a couple of years until we get our stuff out. That makes no strategic there's no strategic coherence to that, in my view. I thought that Ambassador Haley and former Vice President had that right with respect to how we ought to think about America's place in the world.
So that's where you stand. Uh this is what Ron DeSantis said yesterday, cut twenty-one. Father Time is undefeated. And this isn't even a knock on him personally. This is just the nature of it.
This is something that's a very grueling job. It requires energy. It requires leadership. And he's not in a position where he's able to discharge that. And he also said 80-something shouldn't be president.
So Ron DeSantis is talking about Joe Biden. We watched Senator Grassley with Ainsley on Sunday. Who's unbelievable? He's 90 years old. I'm going to go watch Mick Jagger on tour, for goodness sake.
80 years old, right? Exactly.
So Joe Biden's different. Your assessment of his assessment, just too old. Yeah. Not about how many days you've had on the planet. It's about your capacity to demonstrate competence.
And it is, as you said, we watch President Biden on the world stage and we can see he's not up to the task. Do you think 80-year-olds should be eligible to run? Yeah, absolutely. It's America. We've got a Constitution.
If 100-year-old wants to run, so be it. I've seen some pretty sharp 90-year-olds. It is a tough job. My wife jokes that there's still five more elections before I'm Joe Biden's age, so who knows? All right, when we get back, I want to talk about your film because it's something I want to do over in Israel, what you were able to do with Ambassador Friedman.
And I know it's in theaters, correct? It is today and tomorrow. Theaters all across America. Yeah, it is called Route 60, the Biblical Highway, which sets going to be in theater September 18, 19th.
So today and tomorrow. And we'll talk about that. I also want to talk about maybe your future. Not that we're hiring, but you already work here anyway. You are a contributor, right?
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And that is just a cut from a brand new movie that's out. I love the archaeology behind the Bible. Like, you could point to me and say, this is where Jesus was buried, and this is where he was buried, and this is where he was born. Rather than this mythical thing that you think doesn't exist, you'll know it was right here. Mike Pompeo here, and he's, I guess, co-host of this, Route 60, the Biblical Highway, set to open in theater September 18th and 19th, today, and tomorrow.
So, what brought you to this? Ambassador Friedman. It was his concept. A big MVP of the last year. Yes, a great partner between he and I at the State Department.
We helped the president deliver the embassy to Tel Aviv, excuse me, to Jerusalem. We helped get the Golan Heights right. We got the Abraham Accords. He is a great partner. And he wanted to go to Judea and Samaria with me because I had made this statement about the fact that that's just Israel.
I summarize a complex legal problem. And so we walked this highway. I was a fifth-grade Sunday school teacher a while back, and we were walking in the very places that I'd taught. Stories about David, stories about Ishmael. We stood between the tombs of Abraham and Sarah in Hebron, places that people can't get because of security.
We were able to get there, and Route 60, the movie, tells this biblical story. And to your point, you can stand there in that tomb, and there is no doubt that that is Abraham. And you read the Bible and look at the thing, and you know that you are now reading a book that is historically accurate. Right. And for you, were you in the learning mode, or did you?
You kind of knew this and was a confirming mode.
Some of each. I've been to Israel now dozens of times. Every time I go there, I learn something. And so, as I was preparing for the places we were going, I learned an awful lot, and it reminded me of some great stories. You go to Shiloh, where people learned to pray.
First place, the Christians prayed. Um We were on the outskirts of Jerusalem and Gethsemane, and we all in the Christian world, everybody knows the story of Gethsemane and that famous evening. But each time you stand there, you learn something. And this movie will share with people these great stories told in a place where you're looking at it and staring at it. It's beautifully shot.
And it's wonderfully fun to watch. It's a documentary that tells these important histories and important stories. When did Mike Pompeo start becoming so immersed in religion? When I was a cadet, a long time ago now, so I think, I didn't want to say 40 years or so ago, I, for the first time, started picking up the Bible, reading it, and came to understand Jesus Christ. Right.
And also good and bad.
So you could still understand that there is good and bad in the world, and you have to be willing to fight for the good. The Bible teaches evil exists. Each of us is a sinner. And so these ideas that there are things that matter, things that are worth fighting for, exists in the real world today just as much as it did in the times of our Bible.
So you like the Bible, and I know the former president likes every passage in the Bible.
So I was asked. He was asked, what's your favorite passage? And he goes, I like them all. Right? Perfect.
He likes not to like.
So, yeah, you're just going to tell, I don't know, to tell Paul, I don't like anything Paul says.
So that's a very good political answer for a guy that was just getting used to politics. Brilliant. Right. So I want to talk about a guy you may know, a Republican. He came out.
And he says and this is much lesser important. Ridiculous for following up that great story with this. But there's an impeachment inquiry because people want to find out what Joe is up to with Hunter. Congressman Ken Bock says, this is a bad move. I'm a Republican.
Read my editorial. I'm out. Cut thirteen. This case as well as a tax case as well as a foreign agent registration violation case all combined in different jurisdictions, I think he has some serious problems. And I think this is a serious issue.
Obviously, there's a dispute now in the circuit courts over just how serious this gun charge is and how you have to prove that he was using drugs at the time he got this, he filled out the application for the gun. But I think that any felony gun charge is a pretty serious matter. It's not something that I would want brought against me. And he said it's Hunter's problem, not Joe's. There's no link to Joe.
This is a waste, and the Republicans are making a big mistake. What do you think, Congressman? Yeah, I disagree with that. I think there's still lots to learn. I think there's still things we don't know.
But we do know this. We do know there was 10% for the big guy. We do know that at the very least Hunter says that he was involved in phone conversations. You and I both know when the Vice President gets on the phone, it ain't to talk about the weather, it is to demonstrate brand loyalty. And we know that Hunter Biden had no known skill set to take on any of the tasks he did for Western City of the United States.
Worth looking into? Worth looking into, and let's get to the bottom of it. Let's find out where President Biden was sitting when those phone calls were made. It's geolocatable, I promise you. Yeah, he said it was right next to my dad's right next to me.
Route 60, the name of the movie, The Biblical Highway. Great to see you, Mr. Contributor, Mr. Secretary, and Congressman, and CIA Director. And movie star.
And movie star, too. I forgot. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hello, everyone.
Welcome to the latest moments of the Brand Kill Me Show. Come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, heard around the world. Jackie Heinrich is going to be here from the United Nations. She is over there with the rest of the world. And EJ Antonio, economist at the Heritage Foundation.
Bitnomics, according to Joe Biden, it's working. According to the polls, Not.
So, you make the call.
So, before we get started, let's get to the big three.
Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. We've asked for 40% pay increases, and the reason we asked for 40% pay increases is because in the last four years alone, The CEO pay went up 40%. They're already millionaires. That is Sean Fane.
He is the director of the United Auto UAW. Why I think this auto worker strike is so much bigger than just an autoworker strike in terms of our automobile. It really talks about both parties and their image of being for the blue collar. Number two. The one thing the American public has to understand is there's a strategy behind everything.
We only follow facts. Hunter Biden will get subpoenaed, but wins the appropriate time. Yes, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, why I believe this impeachment inquiry is legit. It's about finding the truth and Biden loyalists stopping documents and evidence from coming out. Number one.
The Republicans are going to be shooting themselves in the foot in the run-up to the 2024 election if they continue to think that shutdowns are a great way to put themselves in front of the American people. Yep, Carl Rove says it right. Shutdown, averted, perhaps, maybe, maybe not. A framework was released, and they would extend the budget talks for about a month. We're going to examine the terms of the deal and why all the posturing has to stop.
Meanwhile, Jackie Heinrich's got her hands full. She's a Fox News White House correspondent who finds herself in New York City trying her best to stay out of trouble. Jackie, have you been able to stay out of trouble? That's not yet. Brian, trouble's all around me.
We're at the UN, for God's sake. Oh, that's right. All these countries are there. What is the buzz? What is the buzz with this hostage swap?
It looks like the Americans are free. Yeah, so we We got the announcement a short while ago that the plane carrying the five American detainees and two of their family members, along with the ambassador, has departed Tehran en route to Doha. That's where the swap will take place. We've not officially heard from the administration that this has all been done yet. I think that they're waiting until these people are in U.S.
custody to make that announcement. But the Iranians have already announced that two of the five prisoners that the U.S. is releasing have already been released, that they're already back in Doha, and two of the others are intend to remain in the U.S. And the $6 billion has already cleared the bank in Korea and gone to Qatar via Switzerland.
So that piece of the deal, we're told, is done. We're waiting on the administration to make the formal announcement. Right. So Michael McCall was asked to comment on this, Chairman of Foreign Relations, and he obviously does not think this is a good deal. And he also told me something in this soundbite about so.
Saudi Arabia, which I did not know, and how they are viewing this, CUD 31. They were so naive. And I got briefed verbally on some of this. It's a hostage swap for $6 billion. They don't know how to do hostage negotiations.
And guess where it's going to go? It's going to go into terror proxy operations. It's going to go into building their nuclear, you know, their nuclear, not defense system, but offensive system for a nuclear war. And also, just today, this morning, the Saudi said, hey, this deal with Israel you're trying to negotiate. We're out.
It's having a damaging effect throughout the Middle East, and it all started with this very naïve transaction of $6 billion. Imagine what Iran's going to do with $6 billion.
I did not know that, Jackie, about possibly adding Saudi Arabia to Abraham Accords. I knew the talks were happening. I didn't know they ceased because of this.
Well, according to reports, and we've got to caveat this because we are waiting to hear from the administration. I've got an interview with John Kirby coming up just about a half hour from now. I'm going to try to drill down on this issue. But according to reports, the U.S. and Israel are both denying that this is true.
But these reports are coming out of Saudi Arabia. They're saying that normalization talks have broken down, and Netanyahu really wants this happening. happen. Yeah. Unclear what exactly has transpired, if it has anything to do with the Iran prisoner swap and the $6 billion, but there are a lot of factors at play here.
You know, Saudi Arabia wants enrichment. They want to be able to enrich uranium so that they can build a, and ostensibly, a nuclear power plant, but that could easily be converted into a nuclear program. That's what they want in the event that Iran is able to get a nuclear weapon. Remember also that Israel has vowed not ever to allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon. There has been chatter that Israel would consider preemptive strikes on Iran if they saw them nearing that moment in time.
But this all happens against the backdrop of the UN nuclear watchdog, the IAEA, warning that these violations from Iran are becoming routine, that the international community is, you know, Becoming numb to it. They're disinterested in holding Iran to account. And this really needs to be taken seriously because the inspectors, Iran has already stripped out, as McCall mentioned, a third of them.
So it's becoming even more difficult to hold them to account with all this happening. And now they're going to get $6 billion on top of it.
So, what's the president going to be speaking on tomorrow? And what's he doing today?
Well, today He's got a couple of fundraisers. We Don't have a whole lot of information as to who exactly he's meeting with. One of them is going to be on Broadway. There's an eventbrite ticket circulating Broadway for Biden. This is sort of run of the mill fundraiser stuff for him.
Tomorrow, we expect probably a lot of the same themes that we heard at the G twenty. And at other big events that the US is a major partner in, climate's going to be a big issue. The underlying subtext to the climate thing is that the US is trying to get developing nations to partner with the US over partnership with China to deepen our footprint in South Asia, basically as a counter to China.
So there is a national security element to this climate discussion. But we're also going to likely hear autocracy versus democracy, another push for For Ukraine and hopefully some of what we did not hear coming out of the G20 joint declaration, which was totally neutered on the issue of holding Russia accountable for their war against Ukraine. Which is crazy.
So, in terms of the president running last week between the indictment, the impeachment, and the president's performance coming off Vietnam, Hanoi, I'm wondering if he's going to have much worse weeks. But behind closed doors, I think it's not a matter of having a bad week or trying to get momentum or trying to get on the different side of an issue. It's about the president's performance. On this week with George Stephanopoulos, that didn't have George Stephanopoulos. Jonathan Martin of Politico said this: Cut 26.
It is remarkable to see what Democrats will say in private versus in public about Joe Biden, about Kamala Harris. You played the Pelosi clip earlier, which is a taste of what Democrats say in private about Kamala Harris. But there is a remarkable cynicism when it comes to Biden's reelection and Democrats in Washington state capitol. Do you echo that? do you not find that?
No, I think that we're only beginning to scratch the surface of really the nerves fraying within the Democratic Party. Pretty unusual here in Nancy Pelosi and Jamie Raskins, by the way, being asked to essentially. you know, back this twenty twenty four Biden Harris ticket and affirm that this is the best shot that Democrats have. Neither of them did that. And then afterward, you saw Jamie Raskin, he tweeted something.
I'm enthusiastically excited about this ticket. Certainly looks like he probably got a phone call from someone at the White House or someone at the DNC taking issue with his comment there because both Pelosi and Raskin, when asked to defend Harris as the ideal running mate, said, Well, you know, the president thinks so, and that's what matters. She's Vice President of the United States. That's a whole lot different than This is the person that we think. Can win in 2024.
Jackie, have I exhausted you with topics? Are you open to one more? I'm open. All right, good.
So Sean Fane, as we know, the ongoing talks that took place again Saturday with all the three big three automakers in the UAW. We know the President says, I'm going to send somebody over there to help out. They don't want to see somebody from the White House in these negotiations. Sean Fane said this about Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation Cut 20. President Biden says he's the most pro Union President in American history, but you haven't endorsed him.
What is it going to take for you to do that? Our endorsements are going to be earned. We've been very clear about that, no matter what politician. How does he earn it? We expect action.
We expect action, not words. Do you think that was a shot to the solar plexus, to the administration? I don't know if it was a surprise to them, but I think it's not what they want to hear on television. I mean, it's pretty clear that Sean Fain wants the White House to pressure the big three automakers to You know, concede on the union's demands, which are not small. I mean, they want 32 hours or 40 hours of pay for a 32-hour work week.
They want, I think it's 43%, I'm estimating, I think it was 43% pay raises. These are big, big demands. And so Yeah. you know, they haven't gotten it. And this puts Biden between two of his biggest Priorities.
You've got, you know, his climate agenda and the push toward electric vehicles sort of coming to loggerheads with his. alliance with unions. The UAW backed Democrats in 2020. They endorsed Joe Biden. They're obviously withholding that, trying to extract something from this administration that they want their union members to get.
But at the same time, Biden has been involved. You know, he met with Sean Fane a couple of months ago. He's had a few phone calls with him. He did call the big three automakers when he was abroad in India and Vietnam. But then when all of this Comes to a head, the strike is announced.
We hear from the administration they're sending Julie Su, labor secretary, acting labor secretary, and Gene Sperling out to Detroit to bring this to an end, only later to find out that they're actually doing this remotely, that they were planning on going later this week.
So we're not seeing the administration sweat quite yet. Yeah. Can expect that to happen when If this drags out, it's certainly going to have an impact, driving up costs that are already high. That always stresses out the administration.
So we'll see if they pivot. This morning, we found out Hunter Biden's attorneys filed a lawsuit against the IRS whistleblowers for embarrassing him. Do you think that to me, I think the White House would be really upset by this. More scrutiny on an embarrassing episode that they're trying desperately to distance themselves from. Do you agree?
I do. Also, think what's even more shocking was the documents that came out a couple of weeks ago. conversations between Chris Clark and the DOJ revealing that Chris Clark. in pushing the Department of Justice not to bring charges, threatened to put Joe Biden on the stand for the defense. I mean, that is a really bold move from the president's son, representatives of the president's son, saying, Hey, if you bring charges against me, we're going to call the president of the United States to the witness stand and pit him against the Department of Justice.
That, I think, is even more shocking with. When you look at the distance that Biden wants to maintain from this, to have his own son's attorneys saying that we're going to draw you right into the eye of the storm, I think that that didn't get as much play as it should have. And we'd love to see those documents. Unfortunately, Politico is the only one that had them yet, but still trying to get our hands on them because that is really something. That is a great point.
I did not give that proper spotlight, but I would add this: how amazing is it that Hunter Biden, who was caught naked smoking crack with hookers, had all these for leaving his laptop in that repair shop, all the pictures we've seen of him, he's embarrassed by whistleblowers who said he didn't pay taxes. Really, that was the breaking point. Yeah, it's Clearly, there's a legal maneuver that they're trying to make here. They're trying to say that the IRS whistleblowers have violated their. you know, their jobs and the law by revealing private taxpayer information.
But there are whistleblower protections for this exact reason. And of all things to raise concerns about, you'd think that they might be more troubled by some of the other material that we've seen over the course of the last couple of years. All right, so listen, I know it's not easy to move around the UN, but Jackie, I hope you're able to somehow get through and get some news, and maybe the President will sit with a one-on-one interview after his speech. You know, we will hold out for that. We ask every single day.
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Expanding your knowledge base. It's the Brian Kill Me Show. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. First off, labor costs are about five percent of the cost of the vehicle. They could double our wages.
and not raise the price of of vehicles and still make billions in profits. It's a choice. And the fact that they want to compare it to how How pitiful Tesla pays their workers and other companies pay their workers. That's what this whole argument's about. Workers in this country got to decide if they want a better life for themselves, Instead of scraping to get by paycheck to paycheck, while everybody else walks away with the loot.
So that is Sean Fane. He's head of the UAW. He has called this like ripple strike, this like wave strike where about eight percent of the workers worked out of the job on Ford. Uh Stellantis, which used to be Chrysler for some reason. We had to sell it off because Obama called for that, General Motors.
And they said to resume talks.
So last night, following this big-time strike, of all three, What they want. is a thirty six percent raise with the cost of living increases to counter inflation. The unwinding of concessions made during the Great Recession, remember, the benefits, the pensions, a lot of these things disappeared to keep the car industry afloat. And worker protection on the company's transition to less labor-intensive vehicle electric vehicles. This is the key.
The reason why they have not endorsed Joe Biden. Because His economy has rocketed up inflation, his economy has a stagnant dollar, and his economy is subsidizing. Green energy and his economy is pushing electric cars with subsidies, expensive cars which you're given a subsidy if you buy one and then you have no place to charge it, and to build an electric car, they say is forty percent less labor.
So this is a lot of the Obama-Biden policies, no doubt.
So you're Charlet Trump. And you're looking at this. And you're like. I feel more d It's symbiosis to the worker. And I th blue collar people support me.
And Republicans traditionally have been against a union, and that might be fine. But with Donald Trump, you're looking at a guy that had to deal with unions in order to put one cornerstone of the ground to build a building or a hotel or a golf course.
So if he hated unions, he had to get out of the construction business, especially in New York.
So he's telling Republicans. Back off. And let this thing play out. And he's debating. Flying in and talking with some of the workers on the picket line.
And I guess in Michigan, which is very which he lost last time and won by about point percentage points in twenty sixteen, he could get some backlash Yeah. But You heard me say I played the cut from Sean Fane saying I'm not going to endorse Biden. Here's what he's saying he does want. Cut seventeen. We've asked for forty percent pay increases, and the reason we asked for forty percent pay increases is because in the last four years alone, The CEO pay went up forty percent.
They're already millionaires. And the CEO is um We understand Mary Barra is making $39 million. And that would kind of bother me. If I'm working every day, now I don't have a pension. I don't get cost of living increases.
Now some people take advantage of the union protections. I'm not for the four day work week. I never will be. Got to put in work to get paid. I don't want thirty two hours and get forty percent more.
That math doesn't work. But I would love to see the math that says stop the subsidies to electric cars. If the American public wants them, they get them. Ford lost $9 billion doing this. Then they got a grant for another $11 billion for doing the electric cars.
So it's all our money they're playing with. And I don't blame the UAW workers for being upset. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. In terms of the trend in inflation, I think we probably have a disagreement there as well.
The trend in the PCE, the trend in the CPI, whether you look at headline or core, and in fact, well, it's not here anymore, but that graph that was just there showed a very clear trend in the year-over-year CPI. If you take the more timely, say, three-month annualized average, then you see an even clearer result. Inflation is easing. It continues to ease. Really?
That is Jared Bernstein. And to his credit, he is one of the better communicators with this administration, but he's not telling a good story. They pretend as if they just got to get the message out and to get people the good news that's happening in their lives, but they're not able to understand how good news it is. But they're not feeling it because inflation's increased for the second straight month. It's fueled by increasing gas prices, which is directly attributed to the policies of this administration.
Don't let anyone tell you different.
Now it's up 50% from when Biden took office, the gas prices. Food is up 20% for the same period, and wages don't match. These are some of the facts that Jared Bernstein tries to. Glai glaze over. And Joe Biden Mm-hmm.
Oddly, he wants to run on. E.J. Antonio is an economist with the Heritage Foundation and joins me now. E.J., it's a tough sell for Jared Bernstein. Do you think he realizes that?
Yes, that's a good question, Brian. I think he does, and I think that's why he's trying to spin the facts so hard, because he is essentially trying to tell the American people, don't believe your lying eyes, don't believe your empty wallets. Things are fine and you're better off than you were two point five years ago. But I think the American people know the truth, which is that's just not the case. What is the state of this economy?
Right now, the president often cites that it is the strongest economy in the world.
Well, growth is slowing. Inflation is accelerating. I'm not really sure how you say this is the strongest economy in the world when we have a manufacturing sector that is contracting. The manufacturing sectors in countries like India and Russia, for example, are growing at very fast rates, too.
So we are heading towards recession while inflation accelerates. I just don't know how you describe this economy as strong. It's anemic. It's anemic, but you have a situation where our debt is also growing too, and a government shutdown could be looming. And a UAW strike, it's my contention, but you're the expert, that this is so much bigger than people involved in the auto industry.
I think that it really sends a message to the rest of the country about blue-collar workers and wages. They say that as this fight goes on, it could be good for private companies like Tesla. What is at stake with this UAW negotiation? Oh uh A lot, Brian. That's a great question.
But something that I think a lot of people need to realize is that when we hear unions right now asking for things like a 20% hike in pay, we have to remember that in just the last two and a half years, prices have gone up about 17%. And so what you're really looking at is about a 3% wage.
Now, that's not to absolve unions. There's plenty of things, plenty of ways in which unions have negatively impacted the labor market. But all I'm saying is that you have to remember. remember that everybody is hurting right now. All workers are hurting and all businesses are hurting because as much as prices have gone up for consumers, prices have gone up for businesses even faster.
And so what's at stake here is essentially the future of the labor market. And it's not just a matter of whether or not these laborers are going to be able to get the higher wages that they want, but it's a matter of are we going to get government spending down to the level where inflation will also come down. Right. And what's that going to take? Do you expect rates to rise again?
you You know what, I think what the Federal Reserve is going to do is continue this pattern of alternating between pausing and increasing by a quarter of a percentage point, because what that effectively does is cause increases of an eighth of a percentage point over time. I think it's their way of implementing these very, very slow rate hikes. They really have their hands tied here because they need to hike rates faster. They need to sell off the balance sheet faster to fight inflation. The problem is if they do, they're going to exacerbate the systemic interest rate risk in the banking sector.
In other words, we're going to have more collapses of banks like we saw in March.
So really, they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. Which is, yeah, we have not talked much about those mid-level banks, and now with the restrictions on them, they're not lending any money, are they? No, they can't. And you know what? Again, the banks themselves are between a rock and a hard place because they need to lend more money so that they can get higher rate loans on their balance sheets because that will increase their income relative to their liabilities.
But the problem is, as they do that, they're now becoming over leveraged.
So in other words, they just don't have enough cash on hand to make those loans.
So just like the Fed, they themselves are in a terrible position as well.
So the one thing that I think is underreported, while we're hard on us economically and people are acting are responding in these polls the way they feel, and that is only thirty-four percent approval rating for Joe Biden's economy and bidding onics, which he insists on running on and telling everyone how much better he made their life. But I look over at China. And you see their unemployment among young people, you see the infrastructure and their banks stop loaning, and there's no real requests for bank loans because people aren't building in these real estate conglomerates that they have the best they can in that less of the market economy are going belly up. They're buried in debt, they got empty cities. that have been built, but no one's in them.
They got the one child policy. They have a decreasing population and an aging population. China's got a lot more to fear. Would you say that, that is an accurate statement? I would, but I would also say that it's a warning to the United States because China, what happened in China, Brian, what gave them their growth miracle was that they shifted away from communism and government control over every aspect of the economy to a more free market economy, not entirely, but more so.
Now, as they have shifted back under President Xi away from private markets and to central planning, in other words, government overspending, government over-regulation, government manipulation of the currency, et cetera, basically what we've been doing here, just they did it at a much larger scale. Their economy is now running into a wall. And if we continue down this path, particularly with these massive unfunded government deficits, we're going to have the same thing happen to us.
So when you look at the Republican candidates on the stage and who will be on the stage next week and were on last month, who do you think has the best plan economically? Oh, that's a really good question, Brian. Unfortunately, at this point, I don't think any of the candidates, quite frankly, have articulated enough have articulated clearly enough a plan to really get us out of this hole. I mean, if you look at interest on the debt, for example, it is absolutely skyrocketing. And I don't think anyone, whether it's the Congressional Budget Office or the Federal Reserve, you name it, has really taken all of the relevant factors into account here.
Because once you actually look at the trajectories of spending, the trajectories of interest rates, you realize that we are only a few years away from interest on the debt crowding out everything else in the federal budget. It's already the third biggest line item in the entire fiscal service report.
So imagine what it's going to be in a few more years as we keep spending $2 trillion into the hole every single year. While it's going to be interesting to see who wants to actually cut some of these programs that are the non-discretionary spending, nobody And run her off as feels comfortable saying Social Security needs to be reined in, Medicare is too big, Medicaid and the States don't pay off. They seem to be backing off that. Absolutely. And that's really, really unfortunate, Brian, because those are the things that are really going to cause the budget to explode within the next couple of years.
I mean, we literally are looking at, in less than a decade, insolvency for several parts of both the Social Security Trust Fund and the Medicare Trust Fund. E.J. Antony, thanks so much. Economists with the Heritage Foundation, appreciate it. Thank you, Brian.
All right, thank you.
Meanwhile, Americans are arriving now in Qatar from their captivity in Iran.
So we got our five back, they got their six back, and they got $6 billion.
So they got $6 billion. They say it's their money frozen in South Korea by the previous administration, and now it's unfrozen, only to be used, put in a Qatar bank, only to be used for humanitarian purposes.
Well, anything humanitarian that they were going to use it for, they were going to use their regular budget for. They'll now use that and then go buy their ballistic missiles somewhere else. This is a bad deal from top to bottom, if you ask me. But I'm glad that these Americans are home. No one would.
Nobody would say anything different about that. Obviously, a lot of emotion. I feel great for those families. I don't feel great for us and our foreign policy because once again, it shows hostage taking pays and we look weak. as the UN gathers around.
And the Iranian President denies that there's any restrictions on that money. They said it's theirs. Before we go to break, as you know, Teddy and Booker T, the The story of two American icons who play the path towards racial equality is going to be out in November. Uh seventh.
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So glad you're here. 1866-408-7669, number to call. And I'm getting a lot of people writing me, which means a lot of you are at work. Uh so I'm getting a lot of your emails here, and I'll get to them uh shortly. In fact, just a lot of suggestions, a lot of people being proactive.
Um Here's one example for the right, says Brian. The right media begins to revise the phrase regarding the Biden polls. The phrase needs to include an example of Biden and the policies of the left. We know there's a great chance Joe won't be the nominee, so you don't want to have someone have different policies. Let them know that he's just implementing the West policies.
I like that, and that's Lynn's Lynn's suggestion. Here's Milton Black, a very simple line, calling for a week-long, at least, general work strike for the border security until the border is closed.
So Milton is saying, have all the Border Patrol walk out, and until they decide to implement the policies of shutdown, lockdown that maybe the previous administration had. Then walk out. Man, that would be a very harrowing 48 hours. And I think on some level, The administration would love to have the border wide open, no Hillary Clinton would.
So that's what a lot of you are saying and a lot of you are writing. Let's find out if and by the way, we're still watching this hostage swap. We're seeing these men come off the plane, getting hugs. The Qataris are there. Let's see if the Qataris are going to crack down on the money.
And tell Iran, no, unless I see this is for MREs or blankets, you can't have it. Let's see if that happens.
Meanwhile, let's find if there's more to know. More. To know. All right, Chiefs Travis Kelsey scored a touchdown after missing week one with an injury. You know, he's dating Taylor Swift, and he had a, the announcers picked up on that.
He says, we're just having fun. Travis Kelsey is a good-looking guy. Wouldn't you say that, Allison? I would think so, and he seems like he's a fun guy, too. Right.
You know, his mom already. His mom's very famous. His brother's got a full-time job with the Eagles.
So here's what I and Eagle said after Kelsey caught the touchdown pass: low snap. Mahomes moving pocket. Mahal was floating up. Cut! Touchdowns.
Travis Kelsey. Kelsey finds a blank space for the score. No, I don't even know what that means.
So, apparently, it means blank space is a huge hit by Taylor Swift.
So, but how much preparation did Ian Eagle do to off the lines there? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that guy is pretty funny from Syracuse. He is one of their top announcers. That is pretty cool.
Next. Seahawks quarterback Geno Smith was not happy with the penalty call Sunday. Perfori Alex Kemp still wanted Smith to mind his manners. Listen to this: potential rounding. Offense number seven.
The ten-yard penalty. I'm talking to America here at school. It's a two-yard penalty and a loss of down second down. That is the best line I've ever heard, Adam Fisher. We'll get to the penalty in a minute.
He just told Gino Smith, I'm talking to America. How great is that? The Seahawks went on to win in overtime against the Detroit Lions. Pretty cool, right? That's fantastic.
I really feel like that Raf might have like a toddler at home. He uses that. The best ever was when Marty Lyons sacked, I forgot who the quarterback was. Joe Walden was the coach. And the referee flipped the switch and started saying, Yeah, penalty number 93, 15 yards.
He was giving them the business underneath. Yeah, if we could ever find that, Eric, that would be awesome. I know.
Next, after report service last week that Disney is exploring the possibility of selling ABC, Byron Allen and Allen Media said they were going to offer $10 billion for ABC in all its local stations. No word from Nextstar also said to be interested. The company came out and qualified it, says we're open to considering a variety of strategic options for our linear business. At this time, the Disney company has made no decision with respect to divesture of ABC. They're really in trouble.
I mean, what do they want? Just amusements? They don't like their movies, they don't like their streaming, nothing you're at the ABC, or they're gonna spin up. What kind of company will it be?
Well, I mean, just very strategic for just like Disney-based products. But I mean, Iger is feeling the pressure. And if you remember, what was it, months ago when he made comments essentially saying he might be open to selling the news operations? I said on CNBC, like, it sent ABC, it's what's his health? Apparently the employees were freaking out.
I mean, it's pretty crazy because if you look at Disney right now, they have their parks. The Fox deal, where they bought all the Fox properties and some affiliates, that was like the deal of the century. Because look at FX is not doing great. The Fox family, I've got to renamed something, and it's doing terrible. And now they're breaking up the cable bundles and saying, no, no, all I want is Fox and ESPN.
I'm fine. And no one's choosing to get these other channels that Disney used to have leverage over. That's true. But wasn't there even something last week about ESPN and one of the cable providers? Like, they went...
They were. They almost in there Monday Night Football. Like, what, like, 20 minutes before the game that came on? It worries me about our industry, though. I don't like all this unsettledness.
Next, Seattle Senate and no longer enforcing a dress code. Guess why? Because of John Fetterman, he dresses like a clown and he wants to be able to dress like a clown in Embarrassed, Pennsylvania, and the country.
So they'll know he'll be allowed to wear his hoodies and his gym shorts. Totally disrespectful. They're going to enforce it for visitors, but not for senators. Or any staff. All staff have stitched.
It's really pathetic. Just why can't like proper dress just... Be there. I mean, you would just hope, though, if the Republicans take over the Senate, like, could they reinforce the dress code? That would be something nice.
Next. Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson is considering big government, city-owned grocery stores after Walmart and Whole Foods close their stores in a working-class area and sometimes crime-ridden area of Chicago. He said Chicagoans deserve to live near a convenient, affordable, healthy grocery store. We know access to grocery stores is already a challenge. My administration is committed to advancing innovative whole-of-government approaches.
Look, nobody wants to shop in a government supermarket. Provide security for people in those areas. In Walmart, the shoplifting then wouldn't be a problem. Yeah, but Brian, if people had no problem stealing from the corporate Corporate America, you think they're going to have a problem stealing from the government? Absolutely not.
Theft's going to be worse. Will they be allowed to keep armed guards in a government facility? Will they be able to keep cops there? Because they're not allowed to shoot them anyway.
So, I do just say this: for those working class people in areas that are crime-ridden, they need a place to shop. And a place that sells good food at a decent price. And because of shoplifting and the crime, it no longer pays to do that. For that, I feel bad, but that is not the answer. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City.
Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brain Kill Me Show.
So glad you're here. Josh Kroshar, the Fox News Radio political analyst and editor-in-chief of Jewish Insider, former Axios guy, will be bringing us inside the 2024 race. And then we'll do a SamoCast with the great Harris Faulkner in about 15 minutes. You'll see me and hear me. We'll share you guys.
I'll share you guys with Harris. Harris will share her viewers with us. and will be a powerhouse. And plus you see us on Fox Nation. And then, I mean, look at all this.
You can get us on stream. It's going to be exciting.
So. I'm going to make this segment a little bit shorter than usual, so let's get to the big three.
Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. We've asked for 40% pay increases, and the reason we asked for 40% pay increases is because in the last four years alone, the CEO pay went up 40%. They're already millionaires. Wow, there you go.
Sean Fane, head of the UAW. Why I think this autoworker strike matters to all of us, not just those in the business. Number two. The one thing the American public has to understand is there's a strategy behind everything. We only follow facts.
Hunter Biden will get subpoenaed, but when's the appropriate time? Right. House Speaker Kevin McCarthy with Marie essay: Why I believe this impeachment inquiry is legit. It's about finding the truth and Biden loyalists stopping documents and evidence from coming out, even caused this inquiry to be necessary. Number one.
The Republicans are going to be shooting themselves in the foot in the run-up to the 2024 election if they continue to think that shutdowns are a great way to put themselves in front of the American people. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Karl Rove. Shutdown averted, maybe or maybe not. A framework was released that would extend budget talks for about a month. We examined the terms of the deal and why all the posturing has to stop.
Just tell me what really means, really, what matters.
So we found out this morning when I got up, I thought I was going to be talking about lockdown and would-be frameworks, but there is a framework. Uh Kev McCarthy made it clear. He has told his House caucus they struck an internal deal to avert a shutdown, but the measure faces uphill battle, so to speak. This after the House Speaker has said a shutdown would only give strength to Democrats, which is true. And House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stevonik says McCarthy still has strong approval among Republicans on Capitol Hill.
They have nobody else. If you're really conservative, you're not going to lead the caucus and not understand the moderates, and they're just going to lose those seats.
So the key thing is about 120, 30 pages. I talked to Congressman Mike Waltz about it. They got 48 hours to go through it, and then just to extend it. Scott Perry says the members have worked over the weekend with the Main Street caucus on a path forward to fund the government and secure America's border. We now have a framework for our colleagues across the Republican Conference.
So at least they're doing something. And I thought we'd have just negative things to talk about when it came to the shutdown.
So McCarthy thinks they can avoid it. For Mark Warner, Democrat, he hopes they are going to avoid it, cut three.
So you believe we are headed for a government shutdown? I would like to say no. But we're eight or nine days away, and we've not even been able to see the house pass the most basic defense appropriations bills. I hope and pray that Speaker McCarthy will say, Hey, I'm going to throw over the far right and I'm going to put together a bipartisan effort with the Democrats and mainstream Republicans to keep the government funding. I think that would get Again, 350, 400 votes.
So Nancy Mace said, Hey, I was promised a lot of things. Not just Matt Gates were promised things. I don't want to see R. I need some promises to come through. And And she was pretty stern yesterday on ABC Cut 4.
I am expecting a shutdown. But again, you know, what most America doesn't know, the majority of the government will be operating, will be working. And I've talked to some federal employees that don't really mind it because they're going to get a vacation, they're going to get time off, but then they're going to get back pay. And so they're not really grumbling about a government shutdown. It's more than meets the eye.
And lastly, President Trump weighed in on what he would do. And obviously, he said, you got to negotiate. He said this on Meet the Press, Cut Six. Do you think Republican hardliners should abandon their threat to shut down the government over their spending priorities now that there is this impeachment? No, I think if they don't get a fair deal, we have to save our country.
We have $35 trillion in debt. We have to save our country. If you'd shut down the government, you'd support that? I'd shut down the government if they can't make an appropriate deal, absolutely. Yeah.
So the Democrats uh will not be blamed for this. Republicans will. Because one thing the Democratic-run Senate has done is pass through 11 appropriations bills. I have not heard a good answer on this. The only thing I heard Chip Roy say is the guarantee that they wanted from Kev McCarthy says: Can we go back to the committees where the committees sit there and hash it out?
And obviously, it would be a 10-8 committee or 10-9 committee when it comes to the House because of the majority. And we hammer things out and then we hand them up and then you take a look at them and then we try to work with the Senate. We do things regular order. But the Senate did it. But Chip Roy didn't, and I haven't heard any people complain about that.
Let's do it in regular order, and maybe you should have come back in August. And said, listen, if I'm going to get this done and not lose the house and show a competency, I want everybody back earlier.
Now they only have eight days. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Killmead. We have a man who is. totally corrupt and the worst president in the history of our country.
who is cognitively impaired. in no condition to lead. and is now in charge of dealing with Russia. and possible nuclear war. Just think of it.
We would be In World War II. Very quickly. Yeah, and and everyone, I guess Hallison, you were saying is pointing this out that he's losing it and how dare they jump on Biden. Yeah, it was getting played um on the the other networks, just, you know. Um, you know, Trump's blasting Biden about his uh mental acuity and he thinks we're gonna go into World War Two, you know, that was decades ago.
You know, he he misspoke. He was actually just speaking on Friday too, on the Through radio, it sounds like it's sort of like a political ad, which it's not. There was just music while he was talking. In Washington. Yes.
So there's such huge differences. Number one, did Donald Trump say? I taught at the University of Pennsylvania for three years. Did Donald Trump say I was basically raised in synagogues? And then he also said I was basically raised in black churches.
Did Donald Trump say? Did did Donald Trump say that he went 9-11 the next day he was down there? Want to just bring it up unsolicited? Let alone the stories that he continues to say over and over again that are not true. Do you know?
I saw that uh Kristen Welker had the tad handle. Naysayers who said she had no business legitimizing President Trump, and on her first show on Meet the Press interviewing the president, foreign president. Think about that. You have to make excuses for interviewing the former President because you didn't like him or he's up for four indictments.
Now it'd be different if he had the numbers of Asa Hutchinson, zero or one percent, but he's a shoe in right now He's up 45 points on Ron DeSantis to get the nomination. Even if he was in second place and Ron DeSantis had 60 and he had 13. Why wouldn't you ever interview a relevant person like this? Because you didn't vote for him, you didn't like him, you don't like January 6th? All right.
Has nothing to do with it. He's newsworthy. And he's could very well be present again.
So No one think about Trump. Whatever we want to say. You like it or not? He's the same guy at 40, 50, 60, 70. And people who are around him say he's got the same energy he always had.
I don't think energy is going to be the issue. I think the worry of four indictments and meeting with these legal teams and saying to yourself, you know, I could be looking at jail, that could wear on you. But, you know, I thought it was interesting, too. Megan Kelly went out of her way to say, How's Melania? And how's Barron?
And Barron's in 12th grade, 11th, 12th grade. He goes, he's a heck of an athlete. He's 6'8. And I think he's looking to play sports in college.
So he says, we're looking at a few schools. And Melania, he said, is as strong a person, has great composure, does not bothered by anything, and she's always offering advice. And that's what was written up a while ago. The crazy Donald Trump with his model girlfriend and all these crazy allegations in court cases. Who's his wife?
Guess what? Don't worry about it. Because they get along fine. every at least once a week, they all have dinner together to make sure that Barron gets a chance to see his father before he goes away in college and everything changes. And who knows, maybe he joins the business, maybe he doesn't, probably does like everybody else.
Or maybe he goes to Ivanka's subsidiary, who knows? All right, we're going to join Harris Faulkner shortly. But if she's also following the breaking news, he's freed Americans, which is always good news. But you ask yourself at what cost we gave back five people who legitimately imprisoned by going through our court system, and they were found to be guilty. In exchange for five people arrested for no reason.
Just because it could be used as pawns, as hostages. I think at least two are Iranian Americans. And then we gave him $6 billion of frozen funds that were in South Korea that the previous administration froze on oil revenue, but now they get put over to Qatar. And I hear about all these secret negotiations. Do you know over the weekend in Malta Jake Sullivan met with the Chinese foreign minister?
And now you hear about in Oman meeting with Iranian affiliates or representatives. about some type of informal agreement that would just bypass Congress? To me, uh that is not a pause. But the biggest story I think to emerge Outside of the political realm, which will be the number one issue in twenty twenty four, I can't see anything being different besides a catastrophe or attack, and that is illegal immigration. You're looking at tens of thousands of people coming here illegally by the millions now.
It is costing New York City. Mayor Adams told Al Sharpton over the weekend it's going to cost about $2 billion this year already, maybe end up at $5 billion. On Saturday nights as well.
So Brian, I want to get your initial thoughts to what freedom is to these people handed over at the border, whether we can even begin to vet them or don't even try. We can't try, and we're not trying. And we're asking Border Patrol to do way too much. And you heard the exchange, and I think you put it on your show on Friday between this one man who says, I like to go to Chicago. And they said, you could go wherever you want.
That is the story. Harris, you don't want to think because we're located in New York. We're thinking too New York-centric. But outside the border cities, this is. The major issue.
It's happening in New York. And you heard Mayor Adams, and I was just talking to my audience prior to this. And we're sharing audiences now, but Mayor Adams told Alice Sharpton over the weekend it costs two billion dollars already this year, five billion by the end of the year, and fifteen billion over the next three years, over the last three years. And think about this.
Now they have to look at every category of the city budget and cut 15 percent. Including police. And you know who that hurts? The citizens. Brian, I want to get this in real quickly and get your response to it.
So, this is a sanctuary city where I work in New York. I don't live here, but I mean, Jersey's cobalt blue, too. We are now seeing self-proclaimed sanctuary cities taking a massive financial hit, just as you were spelling out. And now they're begging for help because of all of the influx of particularly illegal immigrants who go where they want and sleep where they want. And their own Tulsi Gabbard hitting Democrats for flip-flopping.
They're not getting, obviously, the real threat that is occurring right before our eyes. This President and his administration, they don't care about securing this country. They don't care about the interests and well-being of the American people who are being impacted, very negatively impacted, by the Biden-Harris administration open border policies.
So, before Tulsi Gabbard calls me and says I'm no longer a Democrat, I'm no longer a Congresswoman, let's clean that up. We do know that she's had a lot of problems with her party. This, the least of which. Brian.
So They had this sanctuary policy in place, and they had the right to shelter in place from the 80s when Ed Koch in New York. He was looking for a while, was the mayor, to overturn the shelter in place, which means if you get here, I got to give you a place to stay, I got to give you something to eat, and now we added a little thing, we wash your clothes. Fantastic. And we give you a mini menu on top of that.
So now, in the beginning, Mayor Abbas says, Well, you know, give her your huddled masses.
Now he's like, Well, yeah, it doesn't matter how big our hearts are, our wallets aren't, we're out. Do you remember when President Trump, one of the first things he did maybe the first six months on immigration, was we're going to stop, make it illegal to have a sanctuary city? And do you remember those cities sued back and they got the right sympathetic courts and it said that these cities can make their own decision?
Now you made your own decision. And the answer can't be using more of our tax dollars just from a different pot to pay for these people. Ah, and that's what the whole thing is. But it can be. Because nobody's stopping them.
And when you hear someone like Tulsi Gabbard saying that the Dims are getting this wrong on this, she's not the only one. She's not the only American. Every American is seeing this. The ones who aren't are inside a Democratic White House. I don't know, maybe they have like shades and curtains all over the windows and they can't see the rest of us.
I do want to get to this. And I hate to get off that topic because there's so much there. But this might speak to the issue of why Capitol Hill isn't focused on all of us. They're focused on what to wear. We may see soon see hoodies.
Fetterman, John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, on the Senate floor. Fox News confirming reports Majority Leader Chuck Schumer is relaxing the Senate dress code. Yeah, that's a priority. Business attire is still the official rule, we're told, but Schumer has told the Sergeant-at-Arms to stop enforcing that this week. Critics call it a way to appease freshman Democrat John Fetterman, known for wearing hoodies and gym shorts, to the Senate.
Schumer says senators are able to choose what they wear on the Senate floor. I will continue to wear a suit. Republican Senator John Cornyn sees this as a potential double standard since others entering the Senate chamber must comply. With the dress code. Coats and ties for men, business attire for women, Guy Benson calling it the Fetterman Rule.
So There's a few things going on here. It is all about John Vetterman, number one. You know, if you want a campaign and if people of Pennsylvania want to put him in office, unable to put together, sadly, because of his stroke, couldn't put together, couldn't debate, couldn't do a speech, we have no idea what he stands for. If we just have to look back at old videotapes to find out what he's going to be like as a senator, it looks like he's getting better now. But why would you bend the rules for one senator?
What sense does that? Do you have any sense of tradition? It's the whole sloppiness we're seeing everywhere you go. I mean, if you go to the airports, especially, what are people wearing when they're going out? And I'm just saying, why can't somebody who's 78 years old, like Senator Schumer, understand there's a bit of a tradition here and hold him to a high standard instead of everybody else to a low one?
But can you imagine how staffers feel? They're making a tiny bit of money. They got to go out and buy ties and they got to buy suits. But there's John Fetterman, acts like he's auditioning for the Incredible Hulk with ripped shorts and sandals on his shoes and hoodies on his head, and just saying, well, I'm an odd-looking guy anyway. It just makes you, it should make Republicans push more and more to get their majority leader in place and bring everything back.
Wow, I had not heard that. I'm an odd-looking guy anyway. But there is a dress code. And if they're going to be focused on this, it's a shiny object away from crises like border. like all the border trouble that we're having right now.
I mean this is the least Important part. Brian, I got to run. You've got to go do radio. And we understand right now the State Department Secretary Blinken speaking on the hostages freed from Iran. Right.
So we've got a couple of more minutes here, a couple of minutes here.
So, Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, and stay right there. If you can wait 10 minutes, we can get to some calls. But he's basically going to take a bow on this hostage exchange. Just remember, Mr. Secretary.
Bo Bergdahl was brought to the White House on a Saturday to announce his release. And we later found out that Bo Bergdo was a deserter, that people got killed trying to find out where he was and who took him, only to find out they were shot, wounded, and killed, going after a guy that didn't want to be there anymore. Then he was kept in a cage with the Taliban, and then we had to exchange five lethal terrorists and Taliban heads for him, Taliban five. And Cutter says, They're not going to go back to the fight.
Now they're in, I think, all holding positions in the Taliban government. I'm sure Barack Obama would run that press conference back. I think Secretary of State Blinken should think about that. Ryan, kill me, Chill. Don't move.
If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. The most amazing thing about that David Ignatius column is that 90% of it is in praise of what Joe Biden has accomplished, mainly because of his experience, his wisdom, his age, his relationships in Washington, D.C. And I think, you know, you see a president that sees himself as one of the few people likely on the stage that can defeat an existential threat to the Republic, which in his mind is Donald Trump. And he did it just three years ago with the Kamala Harris team.
And I think he's itching for that fight again. It would have been interesting if Donald Trump had not run again, whether the president would view a second term as something that he'd be interested in. But certainly he views himself as the one person that can defeat Donald Trump again. Wow, I thought everybody could beat Donald Trump. He's such a terrible person.
Kevin Walling weighing in. He's a surrogate for the Biden administration, doing what he's supposed to do, although it's Comically, it's comical not to admit what James Carville has admitted, and everybody else has basically said behind closed doors, and some others in front of the camera that his struggling poll numbers, Joe Biden, his struggling gait, his struggling speech, makes him vulnerable. And I think even on the real clear average, for the first time, Trump. Actually, polls ahead by percentage points of Joe Biden. Josh Krashar joins us now, Fox News Radio Political Analyst, editor-in-chief of the Jewish Insider, also Axios.
Josh, Uh welcome back. Brian, great to be back with you. Is there a lot of worry behind closed doors more than you can remember about? Joe Biden's ability to get four more years. Oh, I mean, the issue of Biden's age and health and ability to serve for a full second term has been the tough.
Talk privately among Democratic leaders for quite some time. I mean, this is nothing new when it comes to polling, when it comes to the actuarial reality of what Biden is facing, really something unprecedented to serve into his, I guess, 86, he'd be 86 years old at the end of his second term. And look, I think Democrats looked at the fact that he actually did have some legislative accomplishments last year, that the economy is getting better, and they kind of. Ignored the fact that voters, Democratic voters included, still have very serious concerns about whether he's able to serve for another four years. And that's become louder and louder.
The whispers have now become columns like David Ignatius' column and others.
Now that the polls show Biden trailing Trump and some polls, that his approval numbers are basically identical to where Trump is right now. And now it looks like Biden might be the least electable Democrat, or maybe Emma Harris would be among the least electable Democrats when it comes to anyone else in the Democratic field that would be looking at. See, I think there's a strategy within a strategy. I think that they might be saying we can't get rid of Joe. But maybe there might be a soft landing for Kamala because they prefer to run Joe and say, look, if anything should happen, look at this talented next-generation politician as his running mate.
Don't worry about it. He or she got it under control. But what happened is Kamala Harris underachieved and underperformed in every way, almost every day.
So could they be more looking at a removal of the second over the first? Brian, none of this is easy. I mean, first of all, the party only has so much sway over what happens in the Biden White House. If Biden wants to run for reelection, if Vice President Harris has the support of the President in running for another term, then it's going to be hard to really change that trajectory. And the challenge is real.
Even if you could kind of wave a magic wand and replace The vice president on the ticket, there would be a lot of anger from younger voters, from African American voters, who actually look at Harris more favorably. They think she's sort of the liaison to the progressive base with this administration. She's someone who speaks the language of the left.
So you you'd get a lot of progressives upset, even though they're not the majority of the party. You'd lose some of that uh enthusiasm from the base if you pick someone who is a more conventional and perhaps a more a mainstream center left type of type of running mate. Uh so there's no good options for for uh the Biden reelection campaign. I mean, they they they either um you know stay the course and deal with the the reality that a lot of voters are worried about his age. Or they shake things up at the last minute.
And the filing deadlines in some of the earliest states are coming up pretty soon. And that would be a big mess too, Brian, because then you'd have a wide open primary. You'd have an ideological civil war between Harris and some of the moderates and the progressives within the party. There's no good options going forward. I think they view going ahead with Biden as probably the path of least resistance and maybe the best chance they have to get a second term.
I know the theory was: you know, if Trump runs this great news for Democrats, the indictments start rolling in, Trump gets stronger, the debate happens, Trump picks up some numbers, the debate happens, the things moves on.
Now he's beating Biden by one or two points in almost every poll, even on the real clear average. Is some of this response surprising Democrats about Trump? Yes, I mean, look, I have a lot of 2016 vibes when it comes to this election where I can't tell you how many times, even as late as October of 2016, were Democrats, even with all of Hillary Clinton's baggage, and it was always noted in the polls and the data and everything we've been seeing, and there was a willful denial that Trump could somehow win that election despite the fact that Hillary Clinton carried a lot of baggage and carried a lot of negative perception of her by middle-of-the-road voters. And we're seeing sort of a repeat of that where Biden's numbers are as clear as day to anyone who wants to read polls. And he certainly could lose to Donald Trump.
Even with the the four indictments. And they they you know, they they waited so much that you know, they wasted a lot of time throughout the year convincing themselves that there's no way Trump could win, that now they're in a position in September with very little time left. In a sense of panic. And again, I don't know if you're going to see any changes on that ticket because there's not really much you can do after a certain point. The filing deadlines are done, the damage that would be caused if Biden suddenly left and you'd have a wide open field fighting amongst themselves, that's not a good outcome either for the Democratic Party.
But they could have probably handled this in a more diplomatic way if they noticed that Biden was dealing with widespread voter concern about his age. And that's something that's going to get better as time goes on.
So I understand before we talk a little bit about the Senate and the House and what the issues are that could be straining both, could we talk about the shutdown? We hear this story that came out when I woke up today that House GOP struck an internal deal to avert the shutdown. Will this internal deal among leadership amount to a deal to extend with a CR until October 31st? I don't think we're close to the point where Republicans are in agreement. There was some talk of a deal.
between the the Freedom Caucus and the Main Street Coalition of more moderate Republicans, but it's just, it's like herding cats. And you have. McCarthy has done a fairly capable job of trying to find the middle of that caucus and trying to move forward and keep them on the same page politically. But all it takes is four or five Republicans to really disrupt matters. And there are a lot of Republicans that are not fans of McCarthy, that don't want to kind of play the long game, if you will, and they want to, you know, pick some fights over government spending.
Ukraine, the funding for the Ukraine's war against Russia, is another hot potato in that Republican caucus.
So, boy, I think we're nowhere near a resolution. And it's going to take McCarthy to get his team together, his caucus together, before there's any political movement on whether we can even fund the government and keep things open in the short term.
So let's talk about the Senate.
So far in the Senate, you say it's leaning red because of things like Joe Manchin is vulnerable to Governor Justice in West Virginia. I think Tim Sheeehe has got a great chance against John Tester. What about Congressman Mike Rogers running for the Senate seat in Michigan? And do you believe that Gerard Brown in Ohio is vulnerable? I have not seen prospective Republican opponents.
Yeah, so The math is pretty easy for Republicans. Joe Manchin, if he retires or if he is in a tough race, as it looks like, that's half the seat. All Republicans need, really, is a net one more seat to get the Senate majority back. And if Manchin, you know, I think Democrats acknowledge that if Manchin steps down, that race is all but over. And then it comes down to two seats that are seats that Trump won pretty comfortably.
And you mentioned Montana and Ohio, Brian, but there's another five seats in swing states that Democrats are defending. And Republicans have some Dave McCormick, a businessman, just is scheduled to announce his candidacy this Thursday. He's someone Republicans like, Mike Rogers of Michigan, another candidate that is pretty in the mainstream, that has won a very tough House district in his past career.
So they have a good lineup of candidates, and all it takes is Republicans to flip two of these. Eight, seven, or eight kind of toss-up type of races.
So the map is good for Republicans. Trump, the fact that Trump is a plus in some of the states, not all the states, but some of the redder states, that's an advantage for Republicans. The really only remaining question is: can they get some of these candidates like Tim Sheehy through primaries? Can they get the best candidates that they like through the primaries and against the Democratic Senator?
So you talk about the House a different story. There's 18 vulnerable seats, and you believe the impeachment inquiry could hurt those seats? Yes, I mean, look, these are seats that Biden won.
So there are eighteen House seats that Biden won that Republicans currently hold, and they can't lose more than a net of five. Republicans can't.
So the math is tough. I mean, the math is tough, and the If you talk to Kevin McCarthy, if you talk to his top political ob advisers, their notion is they got to keep the team together. If Republicans break with the leadership, if they go their own way, that's a surefire way to get Republicans to lose in 2024. But it's also tricky if you're one of these eighteen Biden district Republicans who's trying to showcase that you're an independent voice and you're voting on the party line on issues like impeachment or on, I think more significantly, the government shutdown or funding debate that's coming up this week. I mean, it's really a tough tough Democrats have some seats in tough territory too, but the map is getting difficult.
And look, it's it's h hard for any House Republican in a blue district to you know, these are the guys these are the people that voted for Biden in 2020.
So you've got to basically both Support Biden, but also think that your House Republican lawmaker is a good choice as well. You know, I just wanted to hear: Hakeem Jeffries obviously wants to use the term civil war. He kept using it, cut 10. This is an illegitimate impeachment inquiry. It's a product of the House Republican Civil War.
Why in the world, in the middle of all the issues that we are trying to tackle, all of the problems that we are trying to solve on behalf of the American people, would House Republicans inject this illegitimate impeachment inquiry in the middle of us trying to do the business of the American people? It's quite unfortunate. It's wrong. It's distracting. And it should end.
So, civil war, civil war, civil war. That's going to be the whole thing. These guys can't govern. Let me over, I'll take me one vote. I'll be speaker.
You're not going to have that drama. That seems to be the strategy. Yeah, I mean, look, rhetoric aside, McCarthy, to borrow a football phrase, he controls his own destiny. He can get, I mean, if he can get his party in line, if he can get all but four or five Republicans to stick with a team, then they're in good shape. And we saw this with the battle over the debt ceiling debate earlier this year.
And no one thought McCarthy would get all of his Republicans in line behind a unified agenda. He did, at least on the messaging front, and it put a lot of pressure on Democrats to get their side in line.
So, look, the biggest challenge is right now just. For McCarthy getting his own team on the same page, agreeing to a set of principles. Once that happens, then McCarthy's in better shape. But if you have everyone in the right wing going one way and the moderates going another way and McCarthy can't get the votes, They pass a continuing resolution, or at least the principles behind it, it's going to be a mess, and they're creating their own challenges. It doesn't take someone like Jeffries or Pelosi to say it for them.
Right. What about this whole notion of it is not good to interview the former President? Kristen Welker had to justify interviewing the former President on Meet the Press? in her first her first interview in her first week. Peter Baker is like, yes, it's a tough situation and we know CNN will have basically lost their chief executive because they interviewed Trump.
Do they realize he's leading for the nomination, has got a legitimate shot at being the next president? Yeah. Any interview with a former president, and certainly a former president who's running for president, again, is a newsworthy interview. Anyone would want to get that interview. You asked the tough questions.
I thought the interview was generally well done. And look, he gave the answers. And that's the way these interviews have been done. Politicians have lied, spun, throughout my decades covering politics. That's nothing new.
Trump may have a different approach in terms of how he frames things. But look, getting him on record, having him answer the tough questions, that is what journalists do. And I'm glad to see more of that. I'd like to see more of that and not less interviewing and not less coverage over the years. Josh, all I can say is one thing.
If you actually do this, what we do for a living, isn't it great to be able to ask somebody who makes decisions questions? I mean, he sits for Christian Welker. He sits for Megan Kelly. He sat down. He doesn't just sit down with Sean Hannity.
He sits down with us an hour on CNN. This is a guy that would take your questions. You might not like his answers. He would take your questions. Why are they so quiet, the Washington Press Corps, that Trump that uh Biden is never available, never has pressers, never gives interviews?
Yeah, I mean, look, you want to get your questions answered by one of the leading politicians in this. Election.
So, I don't know any journalist who wouldn't want to have that interview to ask the tough, tough questions. But, you know, I think actually it's an interesting political dynamic in the primary because Trump has actually been very accessible, surprisingly so, to some folks in his campaign this time around. Whereas DeSantis for a while was sort of not taking questions even, you know, from folks like NBC and CNN and so on.
So, you know, I think. Talking to the press and actually getting his message out there in the eyes of the Trump campaign has been beneficial. It's good to get used to talk to the press and to have the back and forth. That's part of a healthy democracy. And DeSantis, for a long time, didn't want to have those types of conversations, and I don't think it helped them politically.
Right. And so far, we have a debate next week. I don't know if they're going to have eight again. I think we're up to six. And you got to wonder, Mayor Suarez, when he didn't break through, and Larry Elder, when he didn't break through, they seem to have disappeared from the scene.
Do you think if you don't make the debate stage on the 27th, you're basically done? Yeah, I mean, look, I I think frankly there are some candidates who are big names but had don't have enough support in the Republican Party right now. Like a Christie is is a good example where he you know, look, he does have a p In New Hampshire, but just the metrics that the RNC is looking at for qualification to the stage, Trump is not going to be there. And we're looking at only a few people, I think, in that field that have the chance to oust Trump from that front-running position. And you can't be anti-Trump and win the Republican nomination.
So I think after this California debate at the Reagan Library, there's going to be a winnowing down of that field. But the big question is the elephant in the room. Trump is still the frontrunner, he's the clear frontrunner. And until someone makes a run, he's going to hold that position for quite some time. Right.
And the other networks will have to embarrass themselves and actually interview him if he says yes. Josh Kreischar, Fox News Radio, Political Analysis, Axios, Jewish Insider. Thanks so much, Josh. Thanks, Brian. All right, 1866-408-7669.
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I'll be in Pittsburgh. It's going to be great. Missouri and Michigan, it's going to be fantastic. Ron, K-S-L-M, you're in Salem, Oregon. What's on your mind?
Dallas Cost my fuel, my diesel fuel, like 22 miles. Yeah. Second point is by the administration. does not want dress to crime. They do not want to dress.
Yeah. possibly make sure we'll talk about COVID and yet they They don't want to talk issues. Hakeem Jeffreys? I'm Native American black. American.
I serve my country. I don't care about color. What I do care about is equal to. Quick application of the law, and I care about. More empowerment for ourselves since Biden has cut off.
Releases of oil supplies in Alaska in less than three weeks. It has pushed my fuel prices up. Food prices are going back up.
So, Ron, do you know anybody in your life? that voted for Biden, has seen everything that you've seen from crime to the economy to this green push and printing money we don't have in order to finance it, that has changed their mind about him. Um from California. Yeah. Down the Swan Joaquin and the valleys up here in Oregon, Umqua and the Willamette Valley.
Yes, eyes are opening, but we Republicans got to get a backbone and they must give a message and a plan. Gotcha. Ryan, you make a lot of sense. Hopefully, Ronna McDaniel is listening. At least, Speaker McCarthy.
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