"Alarming" new poll shows Biden is deeply unpopular

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So we have a lot to discuss, including, you know, Hunter Biden sat down for seven hours to. In response to a defamation suit given to him by the computer repair shop owner, he countersued. You're not going to believe how he bends over backwards to say it's not his laptop while suing because his laptop, the contents of his laptop, was let out. It's unbelievable. Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I have a lot of regrets about how it ended in Afghanistan. I have a regret with a basic decision, which I think was the wrong decision. And I particularly regret that we did not choose to begin to evacuate our people at the time we made the decision to bring in our combat forces.

But he didn't make the decision. This is the complicated thing. McKenzie speaks. The general in charge of the Afghanistan exit goes on the record two years after the national catastrophe to make it clear he wishes he never left, especially the way we did. But why did he not say something at the time?

Maybe it would not have happened. All sides weigh in. Number two. There's a state law that says every child that had three sons in public school must be vaccinated from A to Z or you don't step in the front door.

Now, all these illegal alien kids, close to 22,000, no vaccinations, no medical record. You busted the border, Joe, and now schools, cities and party officials are scurrying to deal with the mess you made. And guess what he's trying to do? A remain in Texas policy, preventing the illegals from leaving Texas. Really?

That will not fly. Number one. Let's just stand. We have brand new CNN polling this morning, and the numbers are rough for President Biden. Still early, but Biden's approval rating has sunk to 39%.

Nearly 60% of voters think Biden's policies are making the economy worse. Right, even though the nice music underneath the CNN broadcasts, they can't be happy with the results.

Okay. It's time to panic. Two-thirds of which of Democrats, which don't want Joe to be their party's nominee, and now he's losing to almost every Republican candidate. We look at the game plan and the fallout since.

So, what am I talking about?

So, CNN puts out a poll, and I'm sure they didn't think they'd get these results. Keep in mind, it's only 1,200 registered voters, but here we go: head to head, he loses to Pence. Senator Scott, Governor DeSantis, Dead heat. Dead heat with Trump. Ramaswamy, he's the only one he beats by one.

Christie beats him by two, but Nikki Haley. Beats him by six. That's beyond the. Margin of error. That is why, believe me, they must have got this poll ahead of time, or their internals must say the same thing.

They're attacking Nikki Haley. I thought, well, what's that going on there? You're attacking Nikki Haley's education program on a Tuesday. And I know that President Trump says his camp was like, look out for Nikki Haley from here on in. Interesting, correct?

So you look at those polls, and the fact that he's got 39% approval rating overall. It's scary. It is really scary if you're Joe Biden. And here's the question. Most Democratic voters wish they had an alternative to Biden.

Yes, sixty seven percent of Democratic voters said they wish they had an alternative. Wow. Wow. Pretty bad. among the people, weighing in, maybe before it's too late.

James Carville, cut three. I guess, to say the least, the polls are not were not great. And it tells us that, you know, bowlers. Expressing some apprehension here. It's it's pretty clear.

I mean, there's not much else you can say when you look at them. You can't look at this and not say that you're concerned. It's just for me to come on television and say, I don't find this so all troubling at all would be. it would be stupid of me. I mean, I wouldn't do that.

It it is alarming. And the thing is It is all, it's not, well, he doesn't have a, he doesn't give a great speech. It's not, well, some of the programs that he put together aren't as popular, but he thinks it's good for the country in the long run. No, you broke the border. You embarrassed us internationally.

You never got Ukraine ready to fight a war.

Now we're blitzing him with billions of dollars, and it's losing sentiment for this war with Russia, with China, with Brazil. We backed the wrong candidate in Brazil, which is basically going communist. Do you know a couple of days ago, they celebrated their birthday in Brazil? Do you know nobody showed up to sell? It's like if we had a 4th of July celebration for America, which we do, our birthday.

And no one ever came because that's how little pride they had. That's how crazy this communist is, mentored by Fidel Castro, who Joe Biden backed.

So under Joe Biden's international Genius. We've lost Central and South America. Our border's been broken. Our deficits been doubled. You want to talk about unemployment?

People were out to talk about inflation, sadly. Want to hear more fallout? Here, look at others weighing in about these results. Cut one. Mr.

Stan, we have brand new CNN polling this morning and the numbers are rough for President Biden. They could spell trouble for Democrats and the president's hopes for re-election in 2024. Still early, but Biden's approval rating has sunk to 39%. Nearly 60% of voters think Biden's policies are making the economy worse. Close to 70% of Democrats want somebody else to run for president.

and the president's approval among Democratic voters? That's slipping. There is no way to spin this. CNN reads the country's mood right now and finds that America is deeply unhappy with Joe Biden. You don't blame Fox?

Maybe we're not getting the doing a good job getting the message out, how great the rescue plan is, how wonderful the Inflation Reduction Act is. Oh, so in case you want to panic, let's just shut off old drilling in Alaska that was passed with legitimate tax regul regulation and legislation by the previous administration. Really? The same day you cut off our own drilling, our own oil and gas, to the chagrin of people in Alaska. You hear that Saudi Arabia and Russia are cutting output.

Meanwhile, we should all be expecting what California is already experiencing. They got $6 a gallon gas. We're coming up on $4.

Some of you are like $475, $525.

So if you really want to affect people's pocketbook, don't do anything about inflation or raise people's rates like you're doing, and that affects everyone's credit card and your mortgage, and you don't sell your home, and you don't buy a home because you don't want to get a mortgage with rates that high when they were just down to 3% two years ago. And you do all that. But then you affect gas, that affects everything.

So if you live paycheck to paycheck, Everything hurts. Don't you think it's a little bit of a problem? I think so. It's Josh Crash Hour weighed in. He's uh with Axios.

Now with another publication, but a Fox News contributor cut for her. The big news, Shannon, is that Biden is tied or is losing to every Republican running in the field. It's a real worrisome sign if you're a Democrat. And look, Biden has a strong he's pitching Bidenomics. He's trying to run on his economic record, but the American public isn't feeling it.

And almost three quarters of Americans are worried about his age. And that's the elephant in the room that's not going to be going away. If anything, it's going to be getting worse as we get closer to 2024.

So if you're a Democratic governor or Democratic mayor. And you're Eric Adams, and you say things to the effect of, I'm a Bidenite. I'm the Joe Biden of New York. All right, it's kind of weird even to say. And now, all of a sudden, that Joe Biden has allowed so many illegal immigrants in this country, it's overwhelming our city streets, our hotels, our soccer fields.

In New York, that's why I say our. And now, schools. Do you know that kids couldn't even get into the school, kids that belong into the school? The lines were so long in places like Long Island City, they couldn't get in.

Some kids were quoted as saying, You know what? It's my high school year between that and the pandemic. I think I'm just going to try to either do this at home or I'm going to try to get into another high school. Think about this. You know how much you enjoyed or remember your high school years?

Can you imagine being so discouraged? You say, I'm just going to go to a private school. I'll find the money. I'm just going to go to a private school. Here's Curtis Sleewood.

Who ran against Mayor Adams, but a Republican in New York City? It's very tough to be successful. But he laid it out, Cut 13. There's a state law that says every child that had three sons in public school must be vaccinated from A to Z, or you don't step in the front door.

Now, all these illegal alien kids, close to 22,000, no vaccinations, no medical record. We don't even know who they are. There's no paperwork. And yet they move to the head of the class and you say, why are we forcing American children to the back of the class? You wanted them in Joe Biden, the Biden of Brooklyn.

That was Eric Adams. Remember, he said, I'm the Biden in Brooklyn. Kathy Hochl, you say you're a sanctuary state, a sanctuary city.

Well, take what you said you were going to do and do it or stop complaining. You don't need to be a sanctuary city because there's no law. There's no law that says that. When we come back, I want to talk about General McKenzie and Afghanistan more on this and the fallout, because it's just as horrific in Chicago. It is terrible in Los Angeles.

It is overwhelming our border states still of California, excuse me, of California, they don't talk about it, but it's true. New Mexico is feeling like they never felt before. On our northern border, too, Arizona, Democratic governor. No, remain in Arizona. They're looking to pass a piece of legislation federally that will prevent the illegal aliens from going into the inner part of America, staying in the border cities in Texas.

That cannot stand. Governor Abbott will fight back, but it's been a fight every step of the way to get this president's attention, to get his administration to do anything but this. Could turn the election. This is the Roe v. Wade that happened in 2022.

Republicans were caught flat-footed, unable to talk about their pro-life message.

Well, now, Democrats. Don't even can't even approach. How to discuss? A logical way out of the mess they created. You will see in the Brian Kill Me Chow, 1866.

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I have a lot of regrets about how it ended in Afghanistan. I have a regret with the basic decision, which I think was the wrong decision. And I particularly regret that we did not choose to begin to evacuate our people, our embassy personnel, our American citizens, and our at-risk Afghans at the time we made the decision to bring out our combat forces. I think that was a serious mistake, and I think that led to the events of August 2021 directly.

So, General Frank McKenzie, speaking to Jennifer Griffin at length for the first time that I can remember since his testimony, and he was the one who got the call. Al Bardar called him. He was the leader of the Taliban at the time that we were dealing with in the Doha Agreement with the Trump team and elsewhere with Kyle Azad. Who we could probably get on, by the way.

So, Frank McKenzie is saying, listen, I recommended we keep troops here, which is unbelievable because President Trump, excuse me, President Biden said no one ever recommended or told me that something like this could happen. General McKenzie and General Milley, reportedly, papered this whole thing, which means they wrote it down in real time what their recommendation was. And there was Kib 2200 in country, and also. Keep, you have the NATO troops. They had about 8,000 there.

They weren't even informed that we were pulling out.

So he sat down, and I appreciate him apologizing, you know, saying I feel bad and I have regrets. But what did you do about it? I mean, could you're a general. I know you're supposed to take orders from civilian command. But for me, I simply say this, Mr.

President. What you're doing now will be the greatest disaster in American military history. And I'm the general in charge. You are not taking my advice.

So, therefore, what Matters said. You owe a Secretary of Defense, he said, and I just paraphrase, that you will listen to and respect. You obviously don't respect me because I told you, President Trump, to leave troops in Syria and don't abandon the Kurds. And you're not listening to me.

So I quit.

So President Trump said, yeah, no, no, you're fired.

Okay, so you got rid of them.

Well, if I'm McKenzie, I just say I quit. And if I'm Millie, I say I quit. And here's why. But I want you to hear more. I'm going to let you hear more from him.

Cut 16. Did you have intelligence that the suicide bomber or members of ISIS-K were gathering in a hotel near Kabul airport? Did you or C.D. Donahue, General Donahue or Admiral Pete Vaisley, ask the Taliban to raid the hotel, and did they say no?

So there were a variety of targets that we passed to the Taliban to take a look at. Uh more than ten.

Some they did, some they didn't action. We have nothing specific about a hotel that we asked them to take a look at. We just don't have I just don't have that information. Do you think the Taliban let the suicide bomber through intentionally? I don't believe so.

Hmm. They differ there. He went on to say that he had about 10 sites that we asked the Talban to investigate. Think about that statement.

So, think about your biggest enemy in life and say, do me a favor, check this out.

Some people want to do me harm. Really? I want to do you harm. I've been fighting you for 20 years, and now you're asking me to protect you? Are you crazy?

I can't wrap my head around the two years later, and I didn't fight there. Can you imagine if you fought there, you look down, your hand's gone, your buddy's dead? And you realize General McKenzie knew this would happen. He's probably a fine man. But he was totally ignored by a president who, according to a book that was just released, did not even do the research and the deep understanding before he made this decision.

He knew more. He wouldn't listen to anybody. He understood this is a bad war. These are bad guys. Gone, he's bad.

I want out.

Well, you realize the downside of out is China's in. The downside of out is you no longer have a window into Iran, into Pakistan, China, and you no longer have the Bagram Air Base, which we basically rebuilt. It was originally dug out by the Russians. But we gave it. That was a looking glass into all our enemies.

Dangerous, absolutely. You know what's uh also dangerous? Thirty-eighth parallel in in uh in Korea. You know what was dangerous for a long time? Japan.

You didn't know what was going to happen again. You know what was dangerous for a long time? West and East Germany. We had troops there. And that's what happens.

I know every day was dangerous, but now think about the amount of people that will die around the world because terror has now found a home there. And also, they have four to seven billion dollars worth of equipment. They're now in terrorist hands.

So that's General McKenzie. And What he just said is With a sniper that lost two limbs that said he believed he had within his sights. The suicide bomber and was not given permission to pull the trigger because he said basically that never happened. I don't know, who do you believe? Here's a look back at General Milley, September 2021.

Uh giving his testimony.

Meanwhile, he would have had credibility. Think about this. General Milley turned on Trump, called up China on January sixth, nothing's happening here. Don't fight us. We're not looking to fight you guys.

There's going to be no turnover. Killing Trump behind the scenes.

So he had credibility. If he said You do this, I'm out. Because I am chairman of the Essential command. I'm going to be looked at as the one who was there. Years from now, they're going to say, who was in charge?

General Billy.

Well, that was bad advice you gave you, civilian leadership. CUD 17. My assessment was Back in the fall of 200 and remain consistent throughout that we should keep a steady state of 2,500, and it could bounce up to 3,500, maybe something like that. In order to move toward a negotiated gated solution. Thank you.

What about General Lloyd Austin, Secretary of Defense? Doesn't say much or do much that I could tell, but he was asked. In September 2021, here's what he said, CUD 18. As I've said before, I always keep my advice to the President confidential. But I am very much satisfied that we had a thorough policy review, and I believe that All of the parties had an opportunity to provide input.

And that input was received.

So, when President Biden said he never got input that something disastrous like this would happen, he's basically being told by his Secretary of Defense, I think four-star general Lloyd Austin, we told you. General Milley, we told you. Frank McKenzie. I still tell you. And I regret that it was done.

It really wasn't his decision. I know if you're a colonel, you've got to take orders from a general. If you're a major from a colonel, I know it. And if you just keep on saying, I don't like this, I'm not going to do it. I just think this is a little different because.

You're not necessarily saying, I don't want my hands on this. What you're saying is it's wrong. And it might have forced the president to revisit it or alter his plans, which would have been in our country's interest, which ultimately is why you serve. But you might just listen to me now. You might be in the military, you might be wearing camouflage.

Say, Well, Brian's never been in. What does he know? I know it's good for the country, and that was not good. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Killmeade.

I guess to say the least, the poles are not drunk. And it tells us that, you know, voters have. Expressing some apprehension here. It's it's pretty clear. I mean, there's not much else you can say when you you look at 'em.

You you can't look at this and not say that you're concerned. It's just for me to come on television and say, I don't find this alarming or troubling at all would be. It would be stupid out there. I wouldn't do that. James Carville.

Uh you know, he's a big Biden guy. And he's been sometimes he's really honest. Before an election, he'll be honest this far out. When he gets close, he'll just talk about how Biden's going to win. But he just looks at these polls and they're absolutely terrible.

And I was watching last night Laura Ingram's show, and she had a Democrat on, and he said, Listen, you said Reagan had the same numbers, Obama had the same numbers, he couldn't get reelected, and he came all the way back. Huge difference. One's got a track record he's proud of. He brought down the end of the Cold War, won the Cold War. I'm pretty sure he could run on that.

And number two is he could get himself out of trouble. We're watching Joe Biden get worse almost every day. The speeches he makes, the things he says, the fiction that's emerging, the investigation that's becoming more transparent by the day. Do you know that 60% of the country believe that Joe Biden had some role in Hunter Biden's business dealings? That's what we've been saying, but no one's believing.

Carly Shimkis here, co-host of Fox and Friends First. Curly, you did not hear James Carville say that on our show, but we've heard Democrats are being honest. It's alarming. Yeah.

So if 60% believe that Joe Biden had something to do with Hunter Biden's business dealings, the other 40% are quite possibly asleep because it's pretty inevitable given Devin Archer's testimony and all the rest. Yeah, but the people who are going to be able to do that. Back to Tony Bobolinski, too. But you know that they're spinning Devin Archer's testimony, and they're saying, well, yeah, we never really said specifically, and we never said what Joe Biden's going to do. Or Hunter Biden's own emails himself.

You know, the biggest dad sitting next to me. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

So, the James Carville thing is it was just one little nugget of the whole coverage of the CNN polls. And I was wondering what the Biden administration must have been going through watching the typically favorable coverage because even the banners were like, there was one that said fears skyrocket among Democrats as Biden's numbers suffer. Another one just said bad news for Biden, like just in bold letters at the bottom of the screen. And in these polls, his approval rating is 39%. But I think even more damning is most Democrats wish that there was an alternative to Biden.

67% said somebody else. But I think it's becoming too late for anybody else to jump in. See, I know you're saying, of course, Joe Biden had something to do with his business dealings, but there are people like David Axelrod. We still have him. We could probably play that back, right, Eric, from yesterday?

Just have, when you can, if you could call up Axelrod. Rod from yesterday. He came out. They are still trying to distance himself from Hunter, Hunter crack. You know, it's not a little good that Hunter Biden's got this problem with cracking hookers and his brother's widow and throwing guns and dumpsters.

Well, what happens? You know, everyone's got that crazy son, but at the same time, he puts on a suit and tie and does high wire business dealings.

So, David, so this indictment comes down, and I put on Anderson Cooper's show to say, is this even going to make his rundown?

So, Axelrod's one of his first gets. President wasn't involved with this very clearly. This was something that involved something that Hunter Biden did on his own and involved his own drug addiction and his own misrepresentation. But it fuels what the Republicans in Congress are trying to fan, which is the idea that Hunter Biden is involved in a bunch of illicit activities, and they want to try and link the President to these. And this will be a log on that fire, even though he has nothing to do with this.

So, this is what I'm talking about. You and I are logical, right? Logical. They're not logical. They are trying to still snow their listeners and viewers into saying Joe has nothing to do with this.

Just a bad sign. You understand that you got an addict that's a friend of yours or a relative. You understand? Yeah.

Well, just because this happened a while ago now doesn't make it any less true. But I remember when Tony Bobolinski was on Fox News like two years ago, and he was saying that when he was talking to Joe Biden's brother and saying, Listen, you know, Joe Biden is involved in these business dealings with CSC. What if he runs for president again? What happens then? And Joe Biden's brother said, Well, just plausible deniability.

And it's proof is in the pudding because that was his go-to in the first few years in office until there was more pressure and more pressure from the media. And the whole thing started to fall apart with Hunter Biden's email. And now, what is Hunter Biden doing suing? He's suing over his emails that apparently aren't his.

So that's a whole other ballgame. But then Devin Archer saying, listen, 20 calls were made. Made between President Biden and Burisma. And then your interview was great with Viktor Shokin. And it turns out that other people in the Obama administration were sending emails to Victor Chokin saying, you know what, you're doing a really good job in, you know, the corruption is no longer there in Ukraine, and you're doing a very good job.

And the whole line of questioning from Biden or his defense has been that he was corrupt. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: So it was so interesting. Is that I was listening to I I try to I I know what I think and I know basically what the shows are gonna do and I know the guests, so I'm always flipping around, especially for this show. I'm trying to get different uh sound.

So I started listening to this uh to someone describing That trying to try to make excuses for Joe Biden. He said, What I can't make an excuse for. is going to the Council of Foreign Relations. And making a statement like that. What he cannot make an excuse for?

He can't. He says, I can never possibly excuse going to the Council of Foreign Relations and bragging that you're using U.S. aid dollars as leverage to get people fired on every level. That's wrong. That's not what you're supposed to be doing.

America thuggishness and basically extortion. You want your aid in a desperate country trying desperately not to be invaded and create its own identity? Fire this guy. That diminishes also the self-esteem of that nation, that president. You're subservient to another country, Prashenko at the time.

And then to say it, and then to turn out it's not even true, and that Obama never wanted it. And now they ask these European Union representatives, they go upon further review, we heard that Shokin was corrupt. We didn't see it. I know. How did you ever say that?

I know, it's so true. And it's so frustrating because if you replace the D with an R, I mean, this would truly be a Around the clock news coverage. And because it's only in, you know, on Fox News and conservative media, it becomes, I think that some people feel like it's a little bit less legitimate, or like maybe it's just an attack that has no basis in reality. Although people are starting to now realize, going back to that CNN poll, I think it was 55% of people thought that Joe Biden acted inappropriately when it comes to Hunter Biden's business dealings. I wonder how that's going to play in the election, though.

I still think that people care more about kitchen table issues, the economy, and all that. True. Which means I'm not saying it's going to be a forty nine to one Ronald Reagan win over Walter Mondale, but when you talk about an election being s found in key states by one hundred and twenty thousand people, Yeah, as well as You know, the president can't run the economy. You see the numbers. You can say whatever he's doing.

He's trying. I think they're gonna pull back, don't you? Did you see the image ad they have out now? The image they have of him going to see Zelensky in a war zone going 40 hours. That's one ad.

But then the other ad that aired during the football game yesterday was all about the economy. And I. Hilariously, a part of the ad, 30 Second Spot, several seconds of it were dedicated to energy independence. Can you believe that? You mean the same day that they cut drilling in Alaska?

Yes, exactly. It said, you know, Joe Biden is increasing our energy independence. Do you want to be inspired? Do what I would love to be inspired. Here it is.

Biden Harris 2024. A nearly 40-hour journey in and out of Ukraine. President Biden left Washington, D.C. at 4 a.m. on Sunday.

He landed in eastern Poland and then took a nine and a half hour train to Kiev. He entered Ukraine under the cover of night. And in the morning, Joe Biden walked shoulder to shoulder with our allies in the war-torn streets, standing up for democracy in a place where a tyrant is waging war to take it away. You know the Budweiser ads, Real Man of Cards? I think it's the same guy.

Real man.

Well, yeah, he's been out of work for a while since Bud Light changed their tune. Can't really win them over now. Yeah.

So listen. I like foreign policy, but his foreign policy record is horrendous. This Afghanistan book is coming out. The general's speaking out, and that all relates to this. And then you look at a situation where we're giving them enough not to lose, but not to win.

And now you have Republicans going, Yeah, count me out.

Well, listen, when it comes to that ad, I do have to say I appre I appreciate it's not perfect, but I appreciate the President's position over Ukraine more than some people in the Republican Party who are just totally isolationist and say that we should I do. Yeah, to say that we should stop funding the war entirely. But it's like this: we don't live in a bubble. It's yeah, I'm a Giant fan, but yet their offense is backwards and their defense seems to lack communication and coordination.

Well, I'm still a Giant fan.

So I applaud the mission. But the execution, I don't want to get behind because I see the frustration. The Ukrainians can't really speak out because if they start speaking out making Joe Biden look bad, then he's going to really slow walk his actions. And I look right now that Vladimir Putin evidently thinks Trump's going to win and might be waiting to see if Trump's going to come out and say, I don't want any part of this war. which would be disastrous for America because in my view, a win for Russia is a win for China.

Of course it is. Yes, that's the whole thing. By the way, a lot of people don't agree with what I just said and what you just agreed with. A lot of people listening right now. I wonder why.

Nobody's been able to explain to me how allowing Russia to get what they want, meanwhile, there's this alliance between Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea, how that wouldn't impact all those bad foreign actors who are actively working against us. I mean, you can't let these immoral actors just do what they want and try and reshape the globe according to how they feel. That's not the United States' stance. They were, you know, invaded. Ukraine was invaded.

It's a sovereign country.

So there's also a morality element involved. And I really do think that one of the reasons why Nikki Haley is getting a bit of a bump in the polls is because of her position on foreign policy. I hope so. And Mike, Mike, the best thing to ever happen to Mike Pence and Nikki Haley. Vivek Ramaswamy.

Because he's so bold, great communicator, but he's way off, in my view, on foreign policy. Not for Senator Josh Hawley. Josh Hawley is probably like great. And I like Senator Hawley, but he is way out there on the right and isolationist. And the other thing would be people look at Ukraine and think Trump was impeached because of Ukraine.

That's what I'm saying. Had nothing to do with anybody. It had to do with what Joe Biden was doing and the way the president pursued it, left an opportunity for Nancy Pelosi to side traffic. Two separate things. I see that, right.

When we agree, but sometimes the way you say it is if I don't agree with you. No, no, I'm trying to know I'm agreeing with you. We all agree. I'm very sensitive. Yeah.

The other thing I think it is, is if we're just being completely honest, Democrats do it, and so do Republicans. The second. Biden did start to send some more powerful weapons. A lot of Republicans took the position: oh, well, now we should stop. It's like everything that the other party does is wrong, so now I have to take the opposite stance.

Right. Let me tell you, if he didn't give any weapons or any money, I think all Republicans more Republicans would be aligned in that we should be doing well. And here's why you're right. Because when Barack Obama witnessed the taking of Crimea and later the Donbass region, the so-called Russian separatists. He sent blankets and MREs.

And that was what Vladimir Putin was going on. I'll take more, and what are they going to do? Send more MREs? Totally. And then the last thing about this is people do constantly say we need to take care of our own country first.

And I completely understand that and respect that position. We need to take care of our southern border. But those, I mean, there are two separate pools of money, right?

So, like, you should be doing, you could be doing both. It's not an either-or. I find you're so much smarter when you agree with me. Right? We're going to discuss that.

Right, I don't know if there's anything we truly disagree. on when it comes to politics. Really? Yeah.

Ooh, let's try and figure this out. Or even like personal things. Let's just blow out the show and see if there's anything we disagree on. What do you think, Allison? Have you ever heard us disagree?

Or when she left the room, have I ever ranted how crazy I thought Carly was? Honestly? All the time. Back in a moment. Both sides, all opinions.

It's Brian Killmead. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Gotta know your love language. I read a book.

Some guy wrote a book. Dr. Gary Chapman wrote a book called Five Love Languages. According to Dr. Gary Chapman, there are five languages of love between a man and a woman.

Tammy and I read that book twice in one week because we didn't see our love language in there. Yeah, apparently bitterness, sarcasm, not part of Dr. Gary Chapman's love life. Jeff Allen will be on the show on One Nation Saturday night and also be on this show a little bit later. Carly Shimka is with us right now.

And we're really, it's the question that everybody's talking about. Do we disagree on anything? Oh, yes, right, right, right. Right, correct. Of course.

And by the way, do you have a love language with your husband? Oh, that's a good question. Um We're not big gift-giving people at all. Neither is Allison. Allison, you guys don't give each other anything, right?

Brian. Appreciates that fact. Yeah, I you know what? A gift for me would be don't get me anything so I don't have to get you anything either. Wow.

It's just well, it's just like a t time saver. I mean, crunched for time.

So, yeah. I said that to my mom once, and she did not have to be afraid. Give gifts to each other? Me and Pete? Uh no, we do not.

Yeah, now that Brock is in our lives that'll probably change. But yeah, we never we've never done gifts. Do you get gifts? No, uh correction. He has given me gifts before and it hasn't gone the b The best.

Like what? Does he buy clothes? Yeah.

So the first, oh gosh, this was we met when I was on my 23rd birthday is when we met. And the first gift that he gave me for my, I don't know, 24th or 25th birthday, it just looked like panic. Like, you know, it was just like, ah, I forgot. It was a turtleneck from Ann Taylor Loft. It's like, thanks.

Not necessarily my personal. Like, could you ever see me wearing this? You know, is that what you said? Before you said thank you? No, I don't think I was rude about it, but I d never wore it.

Now I'd wear turtlenecks. The first time I wasn't. The first gift I got, Dawn. Before we were married, I got her a Mr. T Bank because at that time the A-team was really hot, and I thought it would be a good way for her to save money.

I also wait, wait, wait. Like a little personal piggy bank with Mr. T on it? Right, yeah, it wasn't a piggy bank, it was a bank, and you put the money in his hand. Did you meet her when she was nine?

I know. She loved it. I wish I had the money for a turtleneck. And then the one, my biggest mistake, I don't even know what I was thinking, was. I thought, why don't I get her a parakeet that doesn't fly?

Right, isn't that dumb?

So I go in there, and there's parakeets. There's parakeets. There's a nine-dollar one that they're in a cage. But for twenty two bucks, you could get one that Doesn't fly and stays on a perch. I'm like, wouldn't that be great?

She could keep, she was living at home at the time. Wouldn't that be great for her to have?

Now, I said to myself, I thought it was. I thought it was never allowed to play. I didn't know eventually the wings would go back, and you would definitely need a cage.

So next thing you know, she's like, it can fly. And it's flying all around the house. And those parakeets never die. Yeah.

I'm swearing. I got a bird. It's so dumb. Like, what was I thinking?

So, what ended up happening? They end up liking the bird. The whole family liked the bird, but it ended up in a cage. I'm like, I could have spent $9.

So, its wings were clipped, and then I guess they grew back. Yeah, like they don't even ask any questions. Mike, I'd like the one that doesn't fly. This way, you could treat it like a pet. It'll be in the kitchen on a perch.

It's like a starfish. They just grow back. Yeah, they just, yeah.

So, eventually, it grew back. And I'm like, she's like, it is flying everywhere. Wow, Brian. I think that's a good gift, actually. A parakeet?

Yeah.

You know, if ever we exchange. Listen, keep it in mind. It's a pain in the ass. You're cleaning the cage all the time. It smells the water.

Well, I will say that one year I wanted to, I was really pushing for a dog, and my mom came home with a canary. It was a little bit. She's like, we got a pet. I was like, oh. Thanks.

Yeah, good luck with that. I'm moving out.

Okay, bye. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here. We come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. Coming up at the bottom of the out, Bill McKern, Wall Street Journal. Here's what I thought was a great column that. uh I wanted to bring bo bring out, because we talk about these debates and we talk about Republicans and their philosophy and how we have to fund Ukraine or not fund Ukraine, take on China or not take on China, or revamp the Navy or not revamp the Navy.

And people on the Republican side are now saying, well, I'm not for forever wars. We're going to look into that and why that is just a ridiculous statement, in my view and in his view, but he does say a lot more eloquently. He's going to be joining us shortly. Jennifer Griffin did an interview with General McKenzie, which is fascinating and interesting. She's going to be with us in a matter of moments.

In fact, let's get started with the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I have a lot of regrets about how it ended in Afghanistan. I have a regret with the basic decision, which I think was the wrong decision. And I particularly regret that we did not choose to begin to evacuate our people at the time we made the decision to bring in our combat forces.

Wow, the regret he has a few. The fact is, the problem is the president didn't listen. McKenzie speaks. The general in charge of Afghanistan talks about the exit. And how he thinks about it every single day and more.

We'll talk about what General McKenzie said, what he did, and the ramifications for America. Number two. There's a state law that says every child that had three sons in public school must be vaccinated from A to Z, or you don't step in the front door.

Now, all these illegal alien kids, close to 22,000, no vaccinations, no medical record. Yep, there you go. Curtis Lee was speaking out about the craziness right now in New York City and maybe your city. Yes, Mr. President, you busted the border, and now schools, cities, and party officials are scurrying to deal with the mess that this administration has made.

Ultimately, this could break the Biden team and the party at the ballot box. I offer some insight. Number Lister Stan, we have brand new CNN polling this morning, and the numbers are rough for President Biden. Still early, but Biden's approval rating has sunk to 39 percent. Nearly 60 percent of voters think Biden's policies are making the economy worse.

Okay, it's okay to panic, Democratic Party, two-thirds of which say they don't want Joe to be the party's nominee, and he's losing to almost every Republican contender. We're going to look at the game plan and the fallout as the president goes overseas to the G20. Jennifer Griffin joins us now, Fox News Channel's chief national correspondent. Jennifer, welcome back. Thank you, Brian.

So, Jennifer, we saw McKenzie, Millie, and we heard from Secretary of Defense Austin, former general, talk about what they recommended to the President. Different how the President recalls the advice he got leading to our horrendous exit from Afghanistan. First off, when did you realize that McKenzie was ready to talk?

Well, you know, Brian, you know me. I've been at the Pentagon for about 15 years, and these are individuals that I've watched in different roles both over in Afghanistan, Iraq, fighting against ISIS, al-Qaeda. And then, you know, they didn't just start off being CINTCOM commander. They moved up through the ranks. And you have conversations over the years, and you build trust and you have a two-way conversation.

And so I told General McKenzie, who's now retired, he's not the head of CINTCOM anymore, but he did oversee the withdrawal from Afghanistan, that I think that he needed to speak and set the public record straight. I felt that after hearing a lot of the Gold Star families on Capitol Hill, that they felt that they needed to hear from people like him. He is, because he's retired, I think a lot of the people in the military that I speak to who were there overseeing the withdrawal or part of the withdrawal, they feel kind of muzzled, like they can't get their point of view out there. And so General McKenzie being retired, I think. I think it reflects some of the things I've been hearing for a long time behind the scenes.

And I felt it was very important that he sit down, answer the hard questions, and let the nation begin to hear a more full picture of what the decision-making was like. I mean, it was very clear sitting across from him that the decision still haunts him, and that he said in no uncertain terms that he has regrets. But it's not one person's fault. The Afghan war and the way it ended, I mean, I think you and I have discussed. This goes back to many decisions over four administrations that really made it a very, very messy 20-year war.

It was necessary after 9-11, but how it was prosecuted, I think the historians will eventually have the final say. But we are just writing that first draft of history, and I thought it was important to hear General McKinsey's voice. Right. The way we left you really. Yeah.

Defines really how we view the whole thing and the advantage of being there as imperfect as our presence was. Being there, located in between Pakistan and China. Uh Russia and to be in Afghanistan and to have a presence there. And to have a military strategic presence there, there's so much upside to it, and there was no clamor in America from the polls to say, oh, we got to get those 2,500 out. Right.

And that was something that Barack Obama wanted to do, was something Trump wanted to do. Which blows me away about this last book that's published. I read the excerpts. It didn't even look like President Biden put the time in to come up with these decisions. It's not like he poured through the same stuff that McKenzie was and they came up with a different conclusion.

He was just saying, I know more, I want out. I think what you have to look at, Brian, and I think it's a fact to look back at how many of our more recent presidents served in the military. Um the last four? They didn't. And so, or three did not.

And so, each of those presidents, from Obama to Trump to Biden, they all felt very strongly that they wanted to be the president to pull U.S. troops out to end the war in Afghanistan, to end the war in Iraq. And we saw the consequences when you pulled out of Iraq. I was there that day with Defense Secretary Panetta when they sort of shut off the lights in Iraq. And we looked at each other as we got on the plane.

And he said to me, We'll be back. And guess what? They were. A few years later, there they were having to fight ISIS again in Syria and Iraq. I think what we and I think we have a clip from the McKenzie interview I did yesterday in which I asked him point blank, does he think that U.S.

troops should be in Afghanistan today? I don't know what the answer is in terms of. Yeah, here's your question. Here's a clip, and then I have a thought. In your opinion, should the U.S.

still have troops in Afghanistan today from a national security perspective? That was my recommendation then. I see no reason to change that recommendation now. And I think what he, then I followed up, and I asked him about General Carrilla, who's the current CINCOM commander, and he said six months ago that it would take ISIS about six months to be able to strike U.S. interests outside of Afghanistan.

And I said to him, you know, that six-month timeframe is now. Are you concerned? And General McKenzie said he was. I think that's what bothers a lot of the generals who had to go to zero. You know, they recommended 5,000 troops.

They were willing to compromise with 2,500 in order to keep those bases over there. The president, you go back to the recent book that was written. The president's been thinking about getting out of Afghanistan since he was vice president. Joe Biden has been consistent about that. And I know that from various situation room meetings that took place back in the time of the bin Laden raid.

He wanted to go start winding down after the bin Laden raid. And again, arguably, what are the historians going to say 10 years from now? Should the U.S. still be in Afghanistan? Afghanistan 10 years from now.

I don't know the answer, but I think it was very important and very healing for, hopefully healing for the nation and for Gold Star families to, and not just the Abbey Gate Gold Star families, but Gold Star families from throughout the war. More than 2,400 Americans died in Afghanistan. I think it's time to start processing what the nation just went through post-9-11. We're coming up to the 9-11 anniversary on Monday and think about that this is a nation that has been in a state of trauma since 9-11. And, you know, how do we begin healing?

And I think hearing from human beings who were in those positions of power, these were not evil people who were saying, let's do something really bad for America. Let's harm, let's get some Marines killed at Abbey Gate. These were people who had very tough, very bad decisions to make. And I think it humanizes it to be able to hear from your military leaders about how difficult those decisions are and how it weighs on them. You've seen more battlefields and talked to more people.

People in the military than almost anyone listening right now, unless they grew up there or. Or at West Point.

So having said that, I don't think people look at our war fighters and say, well, you guys lost the war, because it wasn't their decision to lose the war. It's not as if they said, we're going to leave. I don't, you know, it's as if. You're blaming the quarterback because the quarter coach said, I want you to spike the ball instead of trying to advance it to the end zone. Don't blame me.

You called the play. They were given an impossible timeline. I think that's what comes out loud and clear in this interview. The timeline, when you set an arbitrary date and you tell the enemy when you're leaving, that's when they start shooting at you. They were trying to avoid scenes in Saigon.

And I think one thing that's gotten lost in the last two years of this discussion is there were two parts to this withdrawal. There was the withdrawal of U.S. forces, and those U.S. forces, military forces, were out on July 4th, all of them. And that's left the embassy and all of the Afghans who were still waiting for SIV visas that were backed up through a long pipeline and not getting approved and not able to get on planes.

Those U.S. troops did not get fired on on the way out. There was a very clean removal of those troops. It set into motion certain consequences, including leaving Bagram and a prison full of prisoners that included the ISIS-K suicide bomber who went to Abby Gate that day. But the real problem, and this has not been discussed enough, is that the ambassador, Ross Wilson, wanted to stay, resisted, and dug in his heels, and did not want to start emptying the embassy because there was a sort of a fantasy that the U.S.

could stay and keep a political footprint in Afghanistan after there was no protection by the U.S. military. I've been going to Afghanistan since 1994, Brian, and I can tell you that that is naive at best. And General McKenzie talks about it in the interview. I ask him point blank if you have time to play it about whether he was frustrated that the State Department took so long.

And then the second part of the withdrawal was the NEO, the going back in, having to send U.S. troops back in to evacuate. Evacuate under duress at that airport without the benefit of having Bagram there. Here's Cut 15. I have a lot of regrets about how it ended in Afghanistan.

I have a regret with a basic decision, which I think was the wrong decision. And I particularly regret that we did not choose to begin to evacuate our people, our embassy personnel, our American citizens and our at-risk Afghans at the time we made the decision to bring out our combat forces. I think that was a serious mistake, and I think that led to the events of August 2021 directly.

All right.

So but he's regretting, but In a way, he's not using the word regret. I regret the decision. He didn't make the decision. That's what we have to understand. That's what's been lost in two years of discussion about this.

The U.S. military salute smartly once the civilian leadership gives them orders. They were given a timeline. They were told to be out by August 31st. And that was by the commander-in-chief, Joe Biden, the president of the United States, took the decision.

He still stands by that decision. History may prove him right in some way. We don't know. But there also was a president prior to Joe Biden, President Trump, who cut a deal with the Taliban and set in motion a lot of this. And Biden could have turned around and made a reverse decision.

But he believes, if you listen to what he says in interviews, President Biden says he believes they would have had to start fighting the Taliban again, and he did not want to send another American to have to do that.

So history is going to have to be the judge, but I think we need to start understanding that the U.S. military does not make these decisions. They execute these decisions. Absolutely. And then they are silenced because they can't become so-called politicized and speak out against.

Sitting commander-in-chief. It is an impossible situation for them. And I think the American people need to understand that a bit more before they start blaming every general for everything that goes wrong. I think I hope people don't believe that because it's pretty clear what happened is it wasn't there. When you say this is the force I'm going to leave behind, and why want him out?

Then he says, I got to get everybody out because you can't leave me with 500 people to get to Bagram Air Base and secure the country.

So that's when Millie says, I got to pull out. And Millie, evidently, you would know better than me, but I've gotten from two different people in real time memorialized his decision as opposed to what he was told.

So in the end, he wanted people to know this is not me, but I am. I'm a soldier. I gotta do it. And remember, there were heated discussions in the situation room, heated discussions. I know we saw the leaks from some of the transcripts of those situation room debates where General Milley made impassioned appeals to the president not to do this and to the national security team not to do this because of what he laid out would be the consequences, and those consequences then ended up happening.

I remember having, and the problem is, Brian, after what happens is we have a lot of conversations. Many of them are off the record, but I can tell you in real time that in the spring, April, prior to the pullout in August, there were senior military commanders who told me that they Lost sleep at night because they knew they would pull out and then they would get an emergency phone call from the NBC saying, Hey, we need your help, come back and evacuate us. And that's what happened.

So there were two parts to the withdrawal, and the military gets very frustrated that the American people lump the two together. They got their people out by July 4th, but the State Department, remember, it's an interagency decision-making process. They wanted to stay. They were dragging their heels to the very, very last minute. To the detriment of the operation, here's General McKenzie on the withdrawal, how it's going to be viewed.

How do you think history will treat the withdrawal and President Biden's decision to bring all U.S. troops home from Afghanistan?

Well, I hope history will divide it into sort of two bends. I think the men and women on the ground did a remarkable job. I think the Joint Force did a very brave and resilient job on the ground of trying to get as many people out as they can. I believe history is going to view the decision to come out of Afghanistan in the way that we did and the manner that we were directed to come. out.

as a fatal flaw. And I think it history is going to be very hard on that. Right. And no one can argue with that. They disagree on a couple of things, and I would love for them to get together on this.

Being able to, did you actually have in sight the would-be suicide bomber? Could you have stopped it? And Jennifer McKenzie says no. And then that was very clear from the interview, and that's something I wanted to address because I see this disconnect between what is being said and what is being told to Gold Star families. And they are in pain, and they are seeking answers for the loss of their children, which you and I can never possibly understand, the pain they're in.

But I, from. Listening to what General McKenzie and others have said, there was not the clear-cut kind of intelligence that is being described where people were able to maybe stop or prevent that suicide bomber. And I think it's misleading to the American public to suggest that there was and that people didn't act on it. Great interview. I think it's important.

Two years later, we cannot forget, and we still got to get to the bottom of it. And we're going to pay the price sadly because of the way we left. And maybe Ukraine, the war that happened, is the beginning of paying that price. Jennifer Griffin, thanks so much. Great job as usual.

Thank you, Brian.

Back in a moment. It's Brian Killmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead.

So General Keene disagreed with you. Just fresh off, welcome back everybody. Fresh off Jennifer Griffin's great report and interview with General McKenzie speaking about what led to the decision, disastrous decision to leave Afghanistan the way we did. I asked General Keene this morning. I just said, in reality, don't you think, being this, this is such an horrendous decision, and these generals and the Secretary of Defense Austin knew it was a terrible decision, they would have cataclysmic results, should he have put his stars down?

He says, no, you can't really do that because when I ask a colonel, when a colonel asks a major to do something they don't like, are they going to put their stars down? And here's my point. Not that you just agree. But you know politics if you're chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, especially Millie. He's got all this street credit because he won against Trump.

If he said, Mr. President, I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna be chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. and preside over the biggest disaster in American military history that we're gonna pay for for decades.

So if you do this, just so you know, you're gonna do it with a different general, this president would have changed his mind because he knows politically he couldn't withstand the criticism. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Killmeat Show. Most Democratic voters hope for a change at the top of the ticket, and Americans don't take the president and his word when he talks about his son, Hunter. Joe Biden's like that grandpa that you love, that you believe in, you owe a lot, but you start to wonder: you know, would you give this grandpa a high-stress job for six more years, or would you want something else for him?

55% of Americans, a majority, believe Biden's actions related to the Hunter-Biden probe inappropriate. Problematic new polling numbers out this morning for President Biden. The CNN poll finds his approval rating sinking to just 39%.

So that's important because these are people normally singing the praises of Joe Biden and leaving all his problems behind, like falling down the stairs and saying ridiculous lies, that everything from his fake Amtrak stories to his fake Mandela story to his ridiculous, I never got advice about leaving Afghanistan, that it would be this disastrous. All these things, people look the other way, but now they're not. And I'm wondering why. And the polls are one reason. It's hard to just dismiss all your polls.

These are CNN polls, and those are the CNN commentators. Bill McGurn joins us now, Wall Street Journal editorial board guy, writes great column Main Street. And we'll get to your GOP column when you talk about the GOP's forever war follies. I 100% agree, but you give great detail. But first, Bill, why do you think they are talking so freely about the free fall of Joe Biden?

White Democrats are? Or Look, they're scared. They want to win. It's as simple as that. And they're now having doubts that Joe Biden can win.

It leads to question mark. He's so unpopular. His policies are unpopular. He's going around selling Bidenism. And the polls show people are not buying.

So they're afraid they're going to lose. And they want him out there in time to get a new candidate. Is there enough time to set up a structure to get a candidacy going, up and going? You know, I actually don't know the calendar for the Democrats because they're pushing back against them. They don't like Iowa.

They're pushing back against New Hampshire. New Hampshire is pushing back on them. They want to start in South Carolina.

So I'm not sure what the calendar is, but let's say it's January. Can you get something going this quick? I don't know. I assume that the people they're talking about, maybe Gretchen Whitmer in Michigan or Gavin Newsome in California. You know, they're kind of preparing behind the scenes for a contingency.

I mean, look, they have to be prepared anyway. What if Joe Biden has an accident for them that takes them out?

So I don't think they're just sitting on their hands saying, you know, we'll leave it to fate. I think there's some in charge. And remember, it'd be different. From the Republican Party, in that if Joe Biden stepped down, You know, there wouldn't be the possibility of Joe, so there has to be something else.

So they would have to come up with some mechanisms to do that. But don't you think they'll have a problem looking past Kamala Harris? Do you see them going into a battle royal? Yes, I do think they would. But there are good arguments, democratic arguments against Kamala Harris.

Last time around, she was The least popular candidate, she dropped out of the primaries before there was even one vote. And I think you can make good argument that if you're going to lead the presidential ticket, you have to be the choice of Democratic voters. The problem is, Bill, you and I are talking logically. We're pretending that it's not a woman issue and a minority issue. What Democrat is going to sit there and say it's time to go past a female minority and look to.

the white governor of Michigan and the white governor of California. I wish you I wish the Democrats weren't so into identity, but they are. That's the trouble they're going to have with their own with their own criteria. Right. That's the problem of their own making.

Look, the same thing with the press secretary, Corinne John Pierre. I think any objective measure. Is that she's not been the good press secretary? People are always complaining about her, but she's fireproof. She can't be fired because she texts a couple of boxes on the addendum eater and they can't get rid of her without finding someone.

with identical identity politics characteristics to replace her. You know, it seems like they're always putting John Kirby up there, and they would love to have him in there, but the idea of replacing her with an old white male, I think, would be anathema to her own party. Yeah, white males are the worst, just for the record. And if there is a black lesbian who wants to be press secretary, that's what it would take. That's basically what you're saying.

So, Bill McGuiren, you talk about the ridiculous statements, and I put President Trump in that, and many people don't agree with me when he talks about forever wars. No one goes into a war to last forever. And you talk about that. But among the people that believe forever wars should be avoided and should be a part of our past is Senator Josh Hawley. Listened to him yesterday, Cut Nine.

I don't understand what the principle is that he's talking about. Is the principle neoconservatism, where we're supposed to transform every country into the image of the United States and be the world's policeman? That seems to be what these people think, what the neoconservatives think. I just take a different view. My view is that we're supposed to be defending the United States of America.

My view is we're supposed to be putting American jobs and American workers and American prosperity first. That ought to be our number one goal, our number one priority. But that's just not how these neocons or the liberal globalists, it's not how they see things. Laura, they've been dead wrong about this for decades. They learned nothing from Iraq, nothing from Afghanistan.

Now they're doing it all over again in Ukraine.

So take that on. You do in your calm.

Okay. For one thing, whenever I hear these things and is complaining about liberal globalists or neocons, that's name-cong. It's not an argument. I'm against forever wars too. It's not in our interest.

But as I write my column, the way you're around that It is to win the war. I mean, you could do it the Biden way in Afghanistan, just surrender after 20 years of blood and treasure, just throw up your hands. have a chaotic withdrawal. 13 Marines and sailors blown up at the airport. You can do it that way, surrender.

But the way you get forever war is you go into something. And you don't give enough wherewithal to win, but you give just enough to keep fighting, which is what we're doing in Ukraine. And I think Joe Biden is in Ukraine only because he came after Afghanistan, and he just couldn't go down as the guy who lost two countries in the first two years of his administration. It's very personal for me. This stuff about neocons, I don't I don't I've never thought of myself as neoconservative.

I grew up at Bill Buckley National Review. I worked for him later. I worked for the editorial page. When I was in the White House with George Bush, and the Iraq war. I was there from two thousand five to two thousand eight.

And right away, there were good signs. The Iraq had the election. Remember people holding up their painted fingers as they had voted. And then it went south. Al-Qaeda was accelerating the differences between the Shia and Sunni, you know, they would Um put bombs in a a Sunni schoolyard and then attack a Shia market.

And so they're really fomenting civil war. It was depressing. Every day you you read about um people getting killed and our troops getting killed. And my boss, George W. Bush, I know he's reviled for this, but he was absolutely right.

He said to himself. Our policy is not working. We're not winning. And then he announced a surge. The surge was not just sending more troops.

It was a wholesale change in strategy to go to a counterinsurgency strategy. And he was successful very fast. Then, of course, Obama squandered it. by pulling our troops out too early, and then you had ISIS on the rise. But I think he um He uh he went in with the purpose of winning.

And uh You know, a lot of people reviled him because he won a war that they had declared lost. You know, many conservatives were also attacking the surgeon. Yeah, I was there. I was there. I wrote the speech.

I know exactly who is saying what. And so few there was so little sport. Everyone just wanted We're pulling out. And um You know, Bush used to say to me, Billy, we're not leaving Iraq the way we left Vietnam. From the rooftop of the embassy.

And he made good on that. I absolutely did. And by the way, no one goes into that, but people have to understand: it's not, I'm going to build a wall and enforce the border or help Ukraine. They have to explain why Ukraine is in national interest. I want every billion here.

I look at New York City, four billion in dead, paying money for illegal aliens, but that's nothing to do. One bad policy doesn't mean you don't defend your allies and don't see that the Russians will dominate Eastern Europe again. Does anyone get the History Channel in their house? Yeah, also um You know, they we talk about the forever wars and endless wars. No one ever mentions the most endless, the Cold War.

You know, um, yes, it's true. Yes, Marjorie Thatcher said Reagan won without firing a shot. Not quite true. We didn't fire a shot at the Soviets. Our troops never fought theirs in battle, but we fought a lot of skirmishes along the way, Grenada, and that's the way to do it.

Fight the small ones rather than the big ones. In Ukraine now. Um so many things are at stake. It's giving China pause about Taiwan. That's why the Japanese Prime Minister was in Ukraine, because he realizes what happens there affects What happens in his neighborhood.

And I think once you're committed, You have to win. Remember, Reagan came into office. The Soviet Union was not just there. It was on the march. The Berlin Wall looked like a fixture that would be there forever.

Soviets had invaded Afghanistan, surprising Jimmy Carter. They had deployed missiles in Europe. They were fomenting revolution in Central America.

Now we know, like, the Empire, you know, with some good pushes from Reagan. Was on the verge of collapse. It did not look that way when Reagan took the oath of office. And eight years later, It was a different story. The Berlin Wall was coming down and people were getting freed.

And when Reagan went in, he told his advisor, I think Judge Clark, I think George Schultz wrote it. They were discussing the Soviet Union what to do, and he said, I have an idea. We win, they lose. And I think Reagan was absolutely right.

So, all these people, you know, forget that. And also, I'll leave you one last thing about that. When you lose a war. or pull out like Afghanistan. The impact on American credibility.

Like if we want to have strategic ambiguity in Taiwan, which means we don't say whether we'd come to their aid or not, we keep aging guessing. The way to do that is from strength. Is to build them up and to do other things. I mean, Reagan gained credibility with the air controller strike. The Russians looked at that and said, God, this guy means business.

And all these little things, that's a way to do it. And the The blow to American Prestige, we paid a long time. For the failure in Vietnam, and I think we'd pay a long time for the failure in Afghanistan and possibly Ukraine if we don't give them what they need. See, see, but Bill, you know what you just did? You explained yourself.

And that's what this administration doesn't do. They live until General Keene and Lindsey Graham and Michael McCall, mostly Republicans, to go out there and calmly explain that this has nothing to do with the border wall and that your kids have autocratic classrooms and that there's two separate budgets and how it's in our national interest.

So instead of calmly explaining it and maybe getting some maps to understand. He just does things, doesn't explain them, haphazardly asks for billions of dollars, and everybody that tries to back the policy. Feels like they were sold out. And I sit down, everybody I talk, I talk to less and less Republicans that can really get behind this strategy. Yeah, there is no stripe drink.

I don't know what it is, you don't know what it is. It's staggering to me as a former presidential speechwriter. Bush. Gave many addresses to the nation on what he's doing. When he gave the surge address, He won a national TV.

It was a very unpopular move at the time, but he thought we had to do it. And also, Bush had the idea that most presidents have. When you command American troops, You know, you owe it to Give an explanation. to the mother of a marine Sitting at home in Ohio, why her son is going to be put in harm's way in a country far away from ours. You owe it to her.

To say, and they might not like it, but they can respect it. The same thing with money. If you're spending the people's money, you should explain what it's for. I happen to think. the Ukrainians are grinding away at the Russian war machine.

and exposing its weaknesses and so forth, that is cheap at the price. It's not costing us any troops. If we could have that in Iraq, you know, with the an army like that, that would have been heaven.

So I think it's cheap at the price to be grinding down a world menace that has a lot of weapons and a lot of troops. And um it you know, it certainly beats sending Americans. It does. If you explain how quick the Baltics would go down and how quick they can infiltrate an election to get a friendly leader of Poland, and next thing you know, there's a problem with that election, and a Yanukovych type figure emerges at another place, and Moldova gets steamed over, and they just finish off Georgia. And 15 years from now, they'll be going, what were they thinking?

Why did they let the Russians just gradually gain power and prestige again?

So, this needs to be explained. But you don't, the loneliest person in the Biden administration is the speechwriter because he gives none. And that's he's in India now. Bill McGurn, thanks so much. I love what you outlined.

It's not a forever war, the GOP's forever war follies. It tells the truth. Thanks, Bill. You're welcome. Back in a moment.

Learning something new every day on the Brian Kilmeat Show. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead. I had the pleasure of growing up in America before the lawyers took it over and ruined it on it. In my day, if a kid fell off the monkey bars and chipped a bone in his arm, that was tragic, but it was funny to the rest of us.

Certainly wasn't reasons to take the monkey bars off the playground. We all did dumb things. That's how you learn not to do dumb things. I'll give you an example. When I was 12, someone told me to get a ball jar, canning jar, find some dry ice?

put it in the jar, put the weight on it.

So I said, what's going to happen? They said, it's going to blow up. And I said, cool. Where do I get dry ice at? And they said, the ice cream man.

So one day I heard the ice cream man coming down my street. I run out with one of my mother's canning jars and I asked, You got any dry ice? He said, What you gonna do with it? I said, I'm gonna put it in this jar, I'm gonna put the lid on it, and it's gonna explode. Ice cream man says, Oh, here's your dry ice.

That's the America I grew up in. That is funny. Jeff Allen is going to be with us last hour, and he's going to be on One Nation this weekend. Talks about marriage, talks about life, obviously, and talks about what's happening in this woke world, which, believe it or not, he's not really approving of. And I think you listen to the show.

I'm pretty sure you understand that.

Meanwhile, also coming up on One Nation this weekend, Senator Tim Scott has not talked to him in about two months on the air. I want to get an update, too. And he's got to feel great about the new poll that's out. The head-to-head with Joe Biden. Should he get the nomination, he wins.

I know it's within the margin of error, but the fact is, he does not have the publicity in the platform and doesn't have the national scope that President Biden's had for 40 years. You know, he's only had the Senate job, I think, for eight, and just running for president for the last three months.

So he's got to feel good about that, and we'll discuss that and so much more. You listen to Brian Kilmeicho. Go to BrianKilmeicho.com and order the podcast. And you can always, always find us on social media. Keep it here.

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead. During the rehearsal, this is when I talk. Hi everyone, Brian Kilmey here, final hour of the week on coming to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan, heard around the country, around the world. Jeff Allen, the outstanding comedian, is going to be joining me at the bottom of the hour.

He's also going to be joining One Nation this weekend at 8 o'clock Eastern Time. Shannon Bream is just asking me to buy some time because she's not quite ready to come on. She wants to make sure she's perfect like she was last night on a special report.

So before we get to Shannon, let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I have a lot of regrets about how it ended in Afghanistan. I have a regret with the basic decision, which I think was the wrong decision. And I particularly regret that we did not choose to begin to evacuate our people at the time we made the decision to bring in our combat forces.

There you go. That is Commander General Frank McKenzie. He has regrets. More than the president says, but the general in charge of Afghanistan exit goes on the record two years later. The catastrophe that won't go away.

We'll discuss it. Number two. There's a state law that says every child that had three sons in public school must be vaccinated from A to Z or you don't step in the front door.

Now, all these illegal alien kids, close to 22,000, no vaccinations, no medical record. That's who we're dealing with, and that is Curtis Sleewa. You busted the border, Joe, and now schools, now cities, and party officials are scurrying, scurrying to deal with the mess you made. Ultimately, this could break the Biden presidency and his party at the ballot box. I offer my insight.

Number one. Let's just end. We have brand new CNN polling this morning, and the numbers are rough for President Biden. Still early, but Biden's approval rating has sunk to 39%. Nearly 60% of voters think Biden's policies are making the economy worse.

Kind of upbeat music for some bad news, right?

Okay, it's time to panic. Two-thirds of Democrats don't want you to run. They don't want you to be the nominee, Mr. President. As you go over to the G20, we look at the game plan and the Democratic fallout.

Let's bring in. Shannon Bream. No fallout for her. She's always winning. Shannon, welcome back.

It is great to be with you. I'm looking part forward to the part of the show where you're going to share your insights. That sounds good. You know, that hurts my feelings. A lot of people look forward to my insights.

I do too. Are you hearing something different? No, it was a good tease. I'm saying I'm one of those people. All right.

Here's my.

Okay, let me see. What did I promise? I promise inside. Oh, I believe. that this border issue Has overwhelmed so many cities so much, none bigger than New York City, where they had to turn kids away from school.

I mean, think about that. You're in fourth grade, mom, dad, I can't go in to my classroom. Are wrapped around the block in Long Island City, 100 degrees yesterday or 90 degrees. And they go, you can just go home. Go home, really?

And now, no end in sight to this catastrophe, quoting from the mayor who went out of his way to blame Trump. And I just believe, as Democratic mayors fight with Democratic governors who fight with the Democratic president who doesn't want to hear it. I believe that this is going to do to them, potentially, what Roe v. Wade did to the Republicans in the midterms. What do you think about my thoughts?

I I think your thoughts are always thoughtful, and I appreciate that. But the y like you said, Democrats are all mad. Everybody's they're but this point pointing the finger at Governor Abbott, at President Trump. Remember when Kathy Hochl, the governor of New York, went to the White House a couple of weeks ago, the president did not even meet with her. I know.

I mean, he sent other people. Corinne Jean-Pierre says that he is busy. He's got a plate full. And so he did the best he could and sent some other people. How do you think the governor feels about that?

And if you don't want Democrats out there trash-talking you from within your own party, maybe meet with them. Maybe you do some stuff that would actually relieve some of these burdens. You know, Texas is saying to these other places, like, welcome to the party. This is what we deal with all day, every day. If you're worried about hospitals and schools and resources and shelters being overrun, this is our reality and it has been for years.

But you know, what's interesting is they have the LA Times writes a story that the administration is considering a remain in Texas program, which would make it, I guess, illegal to, once you pass through illegally and you get your papers, to leave Texas.

Now, wait a second. I'm looking at my hackstrom, and it turns out there's other border states. Wait a second. It is. Arizona, which is a Democratic governor.

It is New Mexico, a Democratic governor, and a Democratic governor in California. No, but we want to remain in Texas. How do you? You're a lawyer. Have you ever heard of anything like this?

I cannot imagine that would not immediately go to court. Like, you know, what these states argue, and there was a huge fight years ago, earlier when I was covering the Supreme Court, about them passing their own state laws to try to deal with some of what was happening at the border. And unfortunately for them, the Supreme Court, for the most part, said, listen, immigration is a federal issue, and you got to leave most of these big things on immigration to the feds. But these states are going to continually argue in Texas and others have argued this in other litigation. If you guys aren't doing the job, we have a right to protect our borders as a state.

So I cannot for one second imagine that if they say, oh, yeah, we're going to let people illegally come in the country, but they have to stay in Texas and can't go anywhere. You know, knowing Governor Abbott, I believe they're already drafting the lawsuit right now. Right. And of course, they have the Rio Grande buoys that a judge said takes. It got kicked out.

Yeah.

And then for people to say, well, you know, this is overwhelming. It's Republicans' fault. Really? Do you remember when Donald Trump tried to sue these sanctuary cities? And it turns out most of the judges say you got to leave them in place.

First, we said we declared them, I guess, unconstitutional or illegal, and they sued and they left there.

Now you have your sanctuary cities, and now you got your illegal immigrants who want sanctuary. And now we understand the mayor of Chicago says they got a great idea. Instead of that genius idea, they said put them in airports and police stations, we're going to set up 10 cities just in time for the Chicago winter.

So we'll have 10 cities in a crime-ridden city of Chicago. And then we go to Massachusetts where they declared a state of emergency with the Democratic governor. And then here, you got 80,000 and 21,000 students who now want school. School supplies, they're going to get buses, I guess, and they're going to get teachers and federal money for bilingual teachers to let you know that eventually you got to speak English. I think that is our native tongue.

So, this is a disaster, and I just don't think any reasonable person would be claiming. A Republican for this.

Well, yep. I mean, you got to look around. Think about this. In Chicago, you have members of the community threatening lawsuits against their own Democratic leaders that they have elected. I mean, their new mayor, who says he's going to be even more progressive by many estimates, than Lori Lightfoot, who just left, they are suing, saying you are helping all these people from outside of the country who are not here, didn't go through the right process.

They're here illegally. When we have scores of homeless people and families who are desperate here, these American families, I guarantee you, there will be a lawsuit involving parents in these schools in New York if they feel like their kids are being hampered or their ability to get an education. And by the way, the Supreme Court did say decades ago that it doesn't matter what a child's status is or how they got here, they do have a right to public school education.

So these cities and school districts and counties are going to have to figure this out because if those kids want to go to school, you have to give them a spot. You know, but you're gonna you're going to have lawsuits from the parents who have been in those schools for you know years and and are worried about what's gonna happen to their kids.

So when you see these numbers come out of a CNN poll and you hear CNN just talk about how scary it seems for the Democratic Party, I'm wondering what your thoughts on how it's gonna shape Fox News Sunday. Here's James Carville speaking what he knows the numbers say, cut three. I guess to say the least, that the the the the polls are not uh well were not great. And it tells us that you know voters expressing some apprehension here. It's it's pretty clear.

I mean, there's not much else you can say when you you look at 'em. You you can't look at this and not say that you're concerned. It's it's just for me to come on television and say I don't find this so long or troubling at all with people. would be stupid of me. I mean, I wouldn't do that.

So every every Republican beats him. Except for Vivek Ramaswamy, he only trails by one or two points or ties him. That's stunning. Yeah, I mean the poll numbers were really bad for the President yesterday because all tucked in there is that people aren't confident in him. They worry about his age.

They don't think he's performing well on specific duties. They want somebody else to run. These are people within his own party. And so these are really major issues. They're making the centerpiece of their campaign bidnomics.

And yet a majority of Americans in this poll and our polls and every poll out there say they actually think that the President's economic policies are making their situation worse.

So if a majority of Americans think that and that's the centerpiece of your campaign, that explains why you're head to head or losing to most of the GOP field.

So are you ready for more insight? I am. I've been waiting.

Okay. The Hunter Biden stuff is getting so serious. And the progress of James Comer and Company are, and now that David Weiss, however he wants to be, he is empowered if he chooses to use his power. That I believe that Joe Biden says, I got to stay in power in order to exonerate my son and maybe myself. And I think that's one of the reasons why he's not going to step aside.

And maybe one of the reasons why Jill isn't pushing him.

Well, remember a few weeks ago when I think it was Peter Doocy who asked Rain John Pierre about whether or not the president would pardon his son if he was convicted of something. She said no. And I think we're all. And to me, I was surprised because it didn't sound like she left a lot of wiggle room. I think most of what happens from the press room, you know, you got to leave some wiggle room, things change, whatever.

I was surprised that she said that.

Now, maybe there is, there was some nuance in there somewhere that I missed, but it seemed strange to me that she would close that door.

Now, at the time, there wasn't a looming indictment. Remember, they were in the middle of this plea deal that they were going to work out. His legal team says it's still in force. You know, we'll see what the judge has to say because now, you know, we're told DOJ is looking to get a formal indictment, pursue that before the 29th of this month. That's a very short timeframe.

But if you have a sitting president whose son is indicted on felony charges potentially, you've got the former president who has got numerous trials and is going to be. In those. Remember, when DOJ was negotiating with Hunter's attorneys over this potential plea deal, remember there was the threat of putting the sitting president on the stand that they would call him to testify.

So we think things are crazy now. It's about to get even crazier and weirder. Right. The thing I care least about is his gun charge. I want the foreign business dealings and find out what what went on there.

So I got to ask you about this. I'm trying to keep up with it while doing the show, but I understand grand jury testimony has been released. Recommendations have been released. And in Georgia, Fulton County, and they did recommend an indictment. On Senator Lindsey Graham and Senator Perdue and Bars Epstein.

How odd is it to get a recommendation and not indict somebody that's on your list? I think the list was huge. They did that 19. Bliss. Like over 30 people that they recommended indicting.

But remember, this is that special grand jury that was being chaired by the very interesting four-person who went out and gave interviews and talked about how excited she would be to swear in the president, the former president, and be able to ask him questions. It was just odd. But the special grand jury at the end of this report acknowledges what is always true. These are our recommendations, but we know that the district attorney is the one, the state's attorney, who is going to put together the final decision on who actually gets indicted. And that's what happened here.

So special grand jury threw a very wide net with this saying they heard from more than 75 witnesses. They also said they think that some of the witnesses perjured themselves when they came before them.

So they had a big recommendation list, but ultimately it was up to Fonnie Willis to say, you know, what do I think I have the best case that I can potentially prove? And she narrowed that to 19, which still seems very expansive. I'll tell you, you're the expert, but I cannot believe how ill-thought trying 19 people at the same time was. I'm listening to the judge in real time, like, think out loud and say, listen, I'm listening to this. It's going to take four months.

And if you're going to split these people off, and two are already split off, and try them separately, Cheeseboro and Sidney Powell, and now we understand the president's going, yeah, I think I want to be in federal court with Mark Meadows at the same time. And so is it, guys, how do you plan on doing this? And how many witnesses? Hundreds of witnesses. Right.

So that's not going to happen. Did anybody think this through? Everybody think this through. What are they thinking? I mean, they spent over two years on this in Georgia.

They had to have thought through some of the logistics. Any time you're going to have nineteen codefendants, you have to be realistic about how that's actually going to play out. And as you said, and you talk about multiple people peeling off in in a lot of different directions. And the way that they want to handle this, there's no way this gets done in any reasonable amount of time. You know, the volume of material in these cases, too.

Of course, President Trump's team is going to fight to get every one of them pushed back as far as they can. But the Georgia case gave itself, you know, some hurdles and challenges logistically before it even gets to the defense side. I mean, just the uplift or the heavy lift of trying to prosecute that many people at once is nearly impossible. You mentioned the chair, the foreman of the grand jury, the most bizarre person I have listened to speak on national television ever. Here's an example.

I kind of wanted to subpoena the former president because I got to swear everybody in. And so I thought it'd be really cool to get 60 seconds with President Trump of me looking at him and being like, Do you solemnly swear? And me getting to swear him in. I just, I kind of just thought that would be an awesome moment. Right.

This person's going to decide the next election. Yeah, that does not help Fonnie Willis in her case. that your special grand jury four person was out there giving interviews, that's you know, that's a that's a tricky thing in it in and of itself. But then to be saying things like that doesn't inspire confidence for a lot of folks. She's she's a goofball.

And for her to make the cut and then go out there and speak and then have her represent the grand jury and to think she will decide the next president goes to jail or not. Are you crazy? What planet are we on?

Well, it did make me think: if she's the four-person, I want to know about the rest of the jury. If they feel like this is our best leader, this is our leader. I need to see everyone else, too. I need to know what's going on there. Right.

So, lead with her, Shannon. Fox News Sunday will have Who Mezke. Who I look forward to. You know what, we're doing a deep dive on education.

So Virginia Governor Glenn Young is with us. We talk to homeschoolers, public schoolers, students, teachers, administration folks. We have everyone. We also have Becky Pringle, who's the president of the National Education Association. When unions are taking a lot of heat for not wanting to be in the classroom, is that a fair accusation?

You know, who's to blame? What's working, what's not? We're looking at all of it on Sunday. It's going to be great. And I just think that you should also roll in my interview with Christy Noam, where basically I think she's going to be the vice president, the next vice president.

She's basically going to endorse Donald Trump. Yeah.

I just think it hits on so many levels. It just seems to be the right fit. And she was never anti-Trump, but she was waiting. And now I think this weekend she'll officially say, I'm endorsing the man. I think you're right.

And we'll see them on stage together. People will get a look at whether they think that is a ticket they want to see on the GOP ballot. All right, I've enjoyed our time, Shannon. And I know you mock my insights, but I think I made you smarter. But I think I listened to.

I always get smarter by listening to you. She was mocking. Wait a second. Wait a second. No, Allison is with me.

Allison, she was mocking me, right? Nope. Shannon is nothing but sincere. That is so close. She was mocking me.

Thank you, Allison. I'm going to watch. Allison's going to watch on Sunday. I hope you will too. Absolutely.

Fox News Sunday's own Shannon Bream. We're going to watch on Sunday morning, wherever you get, wherever you get your TV guy. Check it out. For Saturday night with Brian Kilmean. You got it.

Go get it. Yeah.

You're with Brian Kilmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Killmead. My nephew's coming by. This poor kid's 11 years old.

I look at him. Where's he going? My sister said, rollerblading. I thought he was going to disarm a nuclear device. Poor kid looked like the Michelin man.

Foam, rubber, plastic everywhere. She says, I don't want him to get hurt. I said, Hurt, you can take a semi at 80 miles an hour in that office. Falling on concrete is supposed to hurt. See, that's your incentive to learn to stay upright on the roller blades.

That is Jeff Allen talking about today's kids, talking about life, talking about his relationship. It's the fountain of comedy for him. He's going to be with us. Surely he's going to be on One Nation 2 as well Saturday night at 8 o'clock.

So look forward to having Jeff on. Also, is going to be looking forward to following me on Saturday night, too. They do have a comedy show two hours after that comes on at 10 o'clock because they want to have consistency after the Gutfeld Jobs are going on at 10.

So one way or another, whether it's going to be Kennedy, Jimmy Phela, or whether it's going to be Tyrus himself, one of those three are really big. I forgot which one it is. The one person's going to be hosting that.

So trying to have some fun on the weekends, and that's what we've been doing.

So we come back. Jeff Allen's going to be with us. We're also covering three major stories, including the new news. That the grand jury in Georgia was not only indicted 19, they had recommendations to indict over 30, over 30 people in Fulton County. That's a joke.

Brian Kenny. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. I thought that was the whole point. Raise your kids and get them out as soon as possible.

I was brainwashed to leave my home at 18. Every time I complained at all as a child, my parents said the exact same thing every time. These mashed potatoes are cold. When you're 18 and you have your own place, you can have all the hot mashed potatoes you want, Jeffrey. I just assumed 18, you left.

They got me a suitcase for my 18th birthday.

So, where am I going to go? I don't have any place to live. I don't have a job. You'll figure it out. We love you, son.

Damn. Who knew you could live at home until you're 50 and become a U.S. Senator? Of course, I know who you're talking about. Jeff Allen here, stand-up comedian, author of a new book, Are We There Yet?

My Journey from a Messed Up to a Meaningful Life. Hey, Jeff, welcome. Thank you, man. Thanks for having me. Great to see you.

Love the city, especially in the summer when nobody's bundled up. Right. I'm anti-winter. But it's it's New York a lot better than Chicago. Have you where do you where did you go?

Well, I grew up in Chicago. Freezer. Yeah.

Right? I mean much worse than New York, right? Absolutely. And especially between the buildings when you get downtown and I got knocked down more than once walking between the buildings in Chicago.

Now you just get knocked down by muggers. Right, that's it. I mean, how bad is it in Chicago? Have you been there lately? Oh, I have not.

I'm going back next week. I'm working Schomburg, the Improv, but that's out in the suburbs. And it's interesting. I have friends that still live there, and they tell me how wonderful it is. I guess.

I don't know. So I met two people over the weekend in Florida, and they told me they reluctantly left because one of them got mugged. And the other one lived there for a while. They lived right by Wrigley Field. And they say it used to be the safest neighborhood.

Well, I used to have a lot of time. My first apartment was three blocks from Wrigley over there. It was safe, right? Yeah, it was, oh, yeah, gosh, yeah.

Well, so I guess things are changing now. It's amazing what happens when you don't enforce crime. I had no idea that crime would actually take root. I mean, honestly, who would ever guess that if you. I mean, it's the same thing's happening in New York, too.

What do you think about these activists last night for a greener or greener world? They're getting upset that we're using a busting engine.

So in the last set Well, the second set of the women's semifinal, they glued themselves to the ground and started screaming, standing and screaming. There's somebody's children. Where are the parents? Because if my son does that, I don't care. You kill him.

Yeah, I wouldn't kill him, but I would certainly drag his ass home.

So tell me with this book, your approach to comedy, how it affected your life and how you're still funny, even though you've gone through a lot.

Well, the book was uh from the period of when I was thirty years old to about thirty eight years old.

So it it covers uh I got married as an alcoholic and a drug addict and uh I got into recovery about a year into that. And that where the title came from. You know, you're on a recovery journey. You're like a child in the back seat of a car. You have no idea where you're going.

You just walk into those rooms just as beat up and broken as you can be. And they tell you to pray. I go to what? You know, I didn't believe in God.

So I did what I was told because I wanted to stay sober. I knew that I couldn't drink and stay married.

So I did what I was told and I prayed. And I never got my head around the The higher power, I used to say, Well, look, if I'm making up a deity, that kind of makes me delusional, doesn't it?

So it was really kind of an eight-year search to figure out if God exists, and if He does, what does it look like? And what did you come up with? Jesus at the end. I was the last rock, I guess. I tried self-help, I tried New Age, I tried Buddhism.

I was renamed Rand when I met the guy that put the Bible in my hands. And it was probably a year into our friendship that he had sent me some tapes from a church in Texas, and I never opened them up. And eventually uh my wife took the kids, she was going to Ohio and I thought she was gone for good. And uh I opened up a tape, it was Ecclesiastes, and I don't know if you're familiar with the book, but it starts out meaningless, meaningless, all in life was meaningless. And that was that was my conclusions after eight years, that I was a full-blown nihilist.

My wife would shake me. We're losing the house. We're losing everything. And you don't care. I go, I don't.

I want to. I mean, believe me, I feel the weight of it. I just don't care. I mean, why does it matter? If we have a big house, small house, you know, obviously you need shelter, but Didn't matter to me.

And when I heard meaningless, I figured if that was true, which I believed it to be, then there must be other things in that book that is true. And I just dove into the Bible. And I got to, in the beginning, God, it took me, I don't know, about a month to get into Genesis, but. That's when it hit me that there was a God and scared me to death because I blasphemed and cursed him and mocked him my whole life. How did that relate to the fact that you were drinking?

Well, I stopped drinking. All of this, everything in the book was done sober. I didn't when you say you're an alcoholic, it's either it's like when someone says I'm a sex addict and you go, Well, I want to hear the details.

Well, then you're a voyeur. You know, I'm an alcoholic. I don't need to go into it. No, no, I mean, I should rephrase it.

So do you think you drank because you didn't believe in a higher power? Or did that just help you through recovery? No, I I I drank since I was thirteen or fourteen. That's what I saw the men doing around me. I mean my father, my brother, we were all heavy dr drinkers.

And from the minute I drank, I I I drank obsessively. I was black. I had blackouts at 14, 15 years old.

So I was pretty much inebriated from the time I was fifteen till the time I quit when I was thirty, in some form of it or another. And so again, you crawl into those rooms, you're just I just again, I have no clue. I mean and they say if it's true, what psychologists say that you you remain emotionally An alcoholic remains emotionally where they're at when they start drinking. I was a 14-year-old with a wife and two kids. And in hindsight, looking back to the way I behaved at that point in my life, I was pretty adolescent in my behavior.

So, how did comedy come into play? Oh, I was uh I was comic since I was 22 years old. Um, you know, and I was eight years I was headlined in comedy clubs when I met my wife. She was a waitress.

So I fell in love with her laugh. She was a smoker. Smokers have the best laughs. I mean, when you cannot get oxygen into your lungs, that's music.

So she's gagging and wheezing in the back of the room. And I just said, it's a woman. She digs me. I think I'm going to. seek her out and Anyway, I met her in November.

She had a two-year-old. We spent a week together, flew her and her son out to LA where I was living at the time. Spent a week playing dad, and on April flying on a red eye, decided I'll ask her to marry me. Had no ring, no plan. You know, it was an impulse.

By the way, if there's a young man listening here, don't recommend this. You might want to buy a pair of shoes on impulse, but not. Right away. But it worked out. But I did.

I asked her to marry me at Cleveland Airport Baggage Claim, which is how I opened the book, 'cause I wanted the reader to fall in love with my romantic side. Right. Which you have. Which they have. Yes, I do have one of those.

And that was it. We grabbed the luggage and left, and she picked up some baggage that day and uh and me.

So were you worried that when you got sober you wouldn't be as funny? Initially, you know, I think that's an excuse you used to keep you know, 'cause I had tri I had tried quitting on and off, but Um Yeah, initially. And it's interesting. I as a cr I was more worried as a Christian. Would I not be?

Right. Because I got so soft. in my attitude. And everything, but when I realized at some point, it made me a better, I'm a storyteller. And when you tell stories, it really helps to get a thesaurus out and use the language.

And then when I stepped into churches, my friends would go, How's that working out? And I'd go, Believe it or not, they're used to listening to someone for 45 minutes without throwing a beer bottle at them. Were you on stage drinking? Oh, always, yeah. I mean, I I used to put notes under the beer bottle on a napkin, so I would walk back, take a sip and read my 'cause I couldn't remember my So that must have been that must be a legitimate fair.

Like, am I funny when I'm uh at noon when I'm not drinking? You were you naturally funny with the with the hanging out with the guys? Uh yeah, I was obnoxious, was the word I heard a lot. You know, I was fairly obnoxious, but um uh Yeah, it was interesting when my kid, I got called into school because my kid cussed as teacher in fourth grade.

So I look at the teacher and go, I'd love to be able to look you in the eye and tell you I have no idea where that child hurt. That kind of language.

So we were driving home and my wife says, this is really a reflection on us. We need to curb our language.

So anyway, I um I paid the kids a quarter for every foul word that came out of my mouth, which is basically how I funded their college. And are you how about now? Do you curse? Only on the golf course. I tend to forget I have a piece that surpasses all understanding on a golf course.

You do do a piece on woke golf. Oh, I do. My wife got mad at me because during COVID, I was home five months and I'm playing golf five days of the week. And she says, you're going to bring the COVID home, you know, like it's a person. I said, I'm outside and I'm golfing.

You know, she goes, what precautions are you taking? I said, for golf? I don't know. We quit kissing after birdies. This didn't work for you.

And then she goes, I said, we play woke golf anyway. She goes, what's woke golf? I said, well, you hit your T-shot, then you pick the ball up and place it where you feel it should be. And like everything in the woke world, there's no root in reality.

So I've had 41 hole in one since I started.

So I'm just curious on the construction of this. Do you sometimes nail it like that? That's hysterical. And you nail a conversation. You go, I'm using that.

Yeah.

So, is that how it happened? Did it come out? That's how the woke golf came. I said to guys, we need to play woke golf because I was hitting everything in the woods. And then you go, I'm writing this down.

Yeah, I did. Yeah, that's one of those. You just go, oh, I wonder if anybody else has thought of that, you know, because it's like an obvious hit. It was like the latest with Mitch McConnell. This one came.

My wife is playing the video in the kitchen. I'm making a sandwich. And we live in the country, so our Wi-Fi sucks.

So anyway, he stops talking. And about 10 seconds, I go, is it buffering? She goes, no, he's just staring.

So I walk over and I look, I go, my God, retire, for gosh sakes. And then it hits me. He's falling down. Biden's falling down. And I looked at Tammy and said, this is what happens when you get your spine made in China.

So I call myself a hit and run. I'm a casual observer of the culture.

So that's my hit and run. As long as the news can help you, you know who's going to be watching. Yeah, the problem with all of that, I learned early on in my comedy walk, was they have short shelf lives. You have to be really in the paper every day and kind of picking up on things. My favorite line about all of that, and this is why I don't do much, is when, remember when Chipotle was.

Almost killing people because there was some kind of yeah yeah.

So anyway, I I'd walk on stage and go my wife and I had dinner at the casino last night.

Well, you know it is Chipotle. Is there a bigger gamble than that, folks? And it worked for about four days. You know, it was like it would kill and all of a sudden it just dissipate and it was like a smattering. Yeah, I was watching a friend of mine do a lot of stuff on the balloon.

When the balloon came across, we followed this balloon and it killed. And he goes, Oh, I go, It was so funny. He goes, Yeah, but it's done. It's done. Yeah, he goes, So I buried it.

The moment I walked off stage, it died.

Well, I was headlining comedy clubs uh when Lorena Bobbit happened. Oh, wow.

So I'd follow the MC. He'd do eight minutes on LeBot Marina. The next guy would do eight minutes.

So, what am I going to do? You're dead. I'm dead. That's the bad thing about being a headliner. But I did say you found the pecking order in that police department.

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Tammy says to me about a year ago, she goes, I want you to look into the waxing thing. That's what she said, sir. I want you to look into the waxing thing. I honored my wife. I looked into the waxing thing.

Came back and told her, get used to the pelt. It's not going anywhere. Are you kidding me? Have we lost our minds as a culture? We spent billions of dollars to have somebody rip the hair out of our body by the root.

It hurts, but we won't let our federal government drip water on the faces of terrorists. I think the CIA needs to open up some spas around the world. That's what I'm trying to. You know, Ahmed, before we send you back to the battlefield as part of the new Western Civilization catch and release program, you're in luck. The U.S.

government's gonna clean you up today, my man. Those 72 maidens you're dying to lay with in the next life, they don't want to lay next to a throw rug. There you go. That is Jeff Allen taking the news and bringing it onto the stage. Jeff Allen is going to be with us tomorrow night on One Nation, and he's with us in studio now.

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So, Jeff. People seem to enjoy when you pull stuff out of the news. Do you ever pull stuff out and people aren't following it? Or do you have a method to that? No, again, I call myself a casual observer of the culture.

So as a casual observer, I'm getting the big stories.

So most people you know, I made a crack one night. I did the Chinese spying thing, a spying thing with Biden falling down, and some woman in South Carolina took offense to it and sent me a page and a half email. Oh, I should stop picking on our president. He's just trying to save the free world.

So it made me laugh.

So I was thinking, you know, if your concern is the free world, you might not want to leave 86 billion of military hardware in the hands of a 12th-century worldview. Yeah.

You know, just it's parenting 101. Before you leave the house, pick your toys up, take them back. Yeah.

And right now, we have the Taliban going against Iran and ISIS-K. Right. So I said to her, I wrote her back a short reply. I said, look, I don't normally reply to emails. I get too many of them, but yours intrigued me.

I said, I have a question for you. You don't even have to reply to me, just answer it honestly to yourself. If you owned a Starbucks, would you let Joe Biden run your register? And you know you wouldn't, so shut up. But you would let him greet at the door.

He's an affable guy. He's a great storyteller. And he would just shake your customers' hands and regale them with stories on how years ago he, Joe Biden, was raised in the Colombian forest by Juan Valdez himself. And he personally handpicked those beans they're roasting right now. And you would be so impressed.

You'd say, I just had a cup of Joe with Joe. How do I tip you? Venmo me at 10% for the big guy. And if you really want to help me out, you can run it through my son Hunter's account. Fantastic.

Well, that's it.

So anyway, I get replies and people, you know, people will come by. My audience is relatively older. They remember when we used to actually get along with people we disagreed with.

So they'll come by and they'll lean over and go, I'd let them run my register. And I'd go, and you'd go broke, you know. But they'll buy a book or whatever. And they understand. I've said it a thousand times, man.

We used to have an election day. Tuesday, and Wednesday you're golfing with a guy and you go, Who'd you vote for?

So and so. I voted for the other guy. And that was it. That was the end of it. Yeah, no one cared.

No, and honestly, it was like they understood, they put it in perspective. These guys really don't care about it. But now it's it's so much more of a sport. People really take it as if it's huge money. Right.

Huge money and the clickbait. I used to say we were at the age of industry, we had the age of technology, now we're living in the age of hyperbole. If you can create the biggest headline and get the clicks, then you're making some money off it.

So Jay Leno used to go back and forth. He used to say, here's Republicans or, you know, make fun of that and Democrats. But when he left, there is nobody outside Gutfeld who does a different type of show. There's no one who does stand-up will make fun of Joe Biden. There's no SNL.

It's no longer mocked. They used to mock Barack Obama. Right. Well, look at that. I mean, they would never do that.

Jeffrey Chase made a career out of Falling Down. Gerald Ford falled down one. He was an athlete. He was a center of the Michigan football. No, exactly.

And a boxer. Exactly. And if Chase makes this career out of it, because he falls once. Right. But and then, you know, evidently Johnny Corson was great friends with the Reagan.

He used to mock Ronald Reagan. Reagan used to laugh at that. Yeah, Carson had a theory that if you couldn't make fun of him on Tuesday or Wednesday, whatever, and play golf with him the next day, then don't do the joke.

So do you think now that they've been off for four months and nobody cares and the ratings are so low and channel with Colbert and Fallon and Campbell. Do you think they're going to wise up and start going back and forth and mocking Joe? No, they won't get invited to the parties. Alan Dershowitz is the perfect example of what happens to a left-winger if he steps off the narrative. He's now invisible.

Yeah, he lives on the island out there, and he can't get invited to a party. They don't want him. Isn't it good, Jeff, never to be invited into parties because we don't know we're missing and now we don't care? Yeah, I don't care. You're not coming anyway.

Yeah, I'm not. Believe me, we live out in the country. I can read a book on my deck in my underwear, which is a visual I don't want anybody to take. And I hope they don't post it. Right?

Exactly. All right, Jeff. I'll see you Saturday night at 8 o'clock. That sounds great, bro. Jeff Allen, pick up his book.

Are We There Yet? My Journey from Messed Up to a Meaningful Life. You can follow him at Jeff Allen Comedy. Jeff, thanks so much. Thanks, Brian.

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