Media insists "no evidence" of Biden wrongdoing in Hunter's "business"

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmee Show.

So glad you're here. Thanks so much for being with us all week long. Jimmy Phaley will be with us at the bottom of the hour, host of Fox Across America, Fox News Radio. You see him all around the channel, outstanding stand-up comedian, and former Secretary of State, CIA Director, Congressman from Kansas, Mike Pompeo, in a matter of moments. But first, let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Iran will not be receiving any taxes relief. And in any instance where we would engage. in such efforts to bring Americans home to Vermont.

Iran's own funds. would be used. Anthony Blinken always an inspiring speaker. A foreign policy I just can't support as this administration does what I think is a dirty deal to get five Americans, Iranian Americans, out of Iran. They're in house arrest now, but at what cost?

Speaking of cost, the President is asking for another $20 million for Ukraine. The problem is he's slow walking the weapons they need to win, and his delayed decisions are causing the West's support to wane and make you politically troublesome. To support. We'll talk about it. Number two.

Crooked Joe now wants the thug prosecutor, this deranged guy, to file a court order taking away my First Amendment rights so that I can't speak.

So listen to this. We don't want you to speak about the case. Really? Trump trouble. Fight for the trial dates begins in earnest today.

No question, the former President's problems will be a burden on his quest for the Presidency. But should it all be shelved until the race has been run? We're going to look at the state-by-state races and where the polls have him today. Five months from Iowa, two weeks from the debate. Number one.

You definitely have made a case that his son Hunter has trafficked on that connection to the then vice president, now president, but I haven't yet seen any evidence that the president did anything wrong. Right. Everything but a Joe Biden deposit slip influenced peddling while in office. That's what this is about. That's where James Comer's investigation is, and he wants to hear from the Biden family next.

Soon we will find out how much and when this multi-billion dollar deals were done. And by the way, side note: where is the money? Everyone seems. I don't know. Hunter doesn't seem to have any money nor a job.

With me right now is Mike Pompeo, the former Secretary of State. Ms. Secretary, thanks so much for being here. Ryan, great to be with you this morning. You have so many titles: Director, Secretary, Congressman, Good Guy.

Yeah, so is Mike.

So I feel great for the families of these Iranian Americans, but what about the next five hostages that are going to be taken? I'm going to feel equally bad for them because this shows, it seems, that taking hostages pays like it always seems to do for Iran. Mike, where do you go from here? You know, Brian, it's not always. You'll recall that when I was Secretary of State, we got two.

Americans home from Iran. We didn't give them a nickel. to get them back. There are other tools of American power to get them home. And while you're right, it is always for these individuals who have been in Evan Prison being harmed by these butchers in Tehran, it's tragic to be there and it is glorious to have them home to their families.

What did we do? We we take took six billion dollars that um I know deeply, right, it was being held by the South Koreans at our direction, and we told the South Koreans, nope, go ahead and send it to 'em, um, and they're gonna have six billion dollars more wealth to do, you know, whatever, uh commit terror in uh Israel, commit uh commit acts of of horrific uh of horrific nature against their own people. This will make the Iranians flush and This is as close to a ransom payment as you can possibly get. And what this tells Vladimir Putin, who's held Americans, what this tells Chairman Kim, who's currently holding an American, it says we now know the market price from the Biden administration if you take an American. That only incentivizes further hostage taking, Brian.

So now they say that they're going to put the money into UAE, and there's going to make sure that the money's only taken out for humanitarian causes and to feed its people. How do you possibly enforce that? Are they going to do as good a job with that as they did with Bergdahl holding on to the Afghan terrorist leaders as long as they promise not to go back?

Next thing you know, they're now in the Afghan Taliban government. This will be a failure. You'll remember oil for food in Iraq War, same kind of concept, right? In the end, bad guys figure out a way to move money where they want the money to go. And so if you're a soldier working for Hezbollah, you're about to get a pay raise.

If you're a terrorist trying to come after Americans here in the United States, being paid by the Iranian Kutz force, the IRGC, you're about to get a pay raise. And whether whatever mechanism is used to try and say, well, we're only going to use this for medicine or food brain, every American knows this. If somebody said, hey, I'll take over your health care payments and I'll take over the cost of your groceries, you have more money to spend on other things you want to. The Iranians will be the same thing, and what they want to spend money on is to build out their nuclear program. And that's bad for our friend and ally, Israel.

It's bad for the Gulf. It's bad for America. And we are less safe as a result of this deal. There's no doubt about that. But you know, this is the groundwork to get back into the nuclear deal.

You know that. And they've already been having secret talks in Oman, and they're looking to get it going again. And that we don't even bring up the drones that they use to give to the Russians that have killed more civilians than anybody else in Ukraine. It reinvigorated the Russians' war effort. We we we we we can't figure out.

what we're doing, right? Really? Are you trying to stop the Russian assault on the Ukrainian peoples by funding the Iranian regime to build drones and provide support for the Russian forces that are sitting inside of Ukraine today? Right. And there's no American can look at this and think there's rational, logical reason For giving six billion dollars to the Ayatollah and President Raisi in Iran.

It's just bad policy for the United States. It makes no sense. And by the way, it makes it harder for the other policy things he's trying to do. You talked about Ukraine. Right, when you when you slow walk weapons systems to Ukraine, but fast walk six billion dollars to the Iranians, it makes the pallets of cash deal look like chump change, Brian.

I want you to hear what John Kirby said yesterday. Cut nineteen. We're certainly mindful of all the bad things that Iran does to its own people and to people throughout the region. This is a dangerous nation state, and it's one we continue to challenge. I don't want to get ahead of where we are though, Martha, in terms of these negotiations.

So it's a good thing to bring people home. We're not going to get ahead of things where we're at right now. I guess, you know, he's an admiral, which I had high hopes for him. Uh but That's where we stand. I want to move over to two things.

Number one, I don't have to tell you that it takes six years to build a naval warship. I'd have to tell you that our artillery And our weaponry has been depleted severely because we were supplying to Ukraine. I know you were Secretary of State. But you have a West Point background. You understand the Army.

You understand the military. Number one in your class. Why isn't there an all hands on deck effort to pick up the process, the contracting process in which it takes for us to deliver weapons to customers like Taiwan and to replenish our armaments, which leaves our country less safe today? Brian, this is a failure. It's a failure of leadership, and I'll concede.

We did better in the Trump administration, but we didn't do good enough either. There is an entire refresh in how we procure these weapon systems, how we do so efficiently so there's not waste, the money doesn't go to the wrong places, how we make commitments to our big Military industrial partners so that they can build efficiently over the course of years, the way the commercial world works. We are dangerously exposed when we don't have the tools we need, to your point. To provide just simple 155 rounds to the Ukrainians, some simple weapon systems to the Taiwanese that they're prepared to pay for, and make sure that we have the tools, whether it's ships or armaments themselves, for our soldiers, sailors, and marines, sufficient to do what its task is, which is deter our adversaries, most importantly, deterring the Chinese Communist Party. from what Hui Singping is surely thinking might be possible under the Biden administration.

So right now, if we can pivot over to China, President Biden said something at a fundraiser yesterday. He forgets that he's president and impressor there. He called China a ticking time bomb. He says they do bad things. He went on to say when bad folks have problems, they do bad things.

He went on to say, I don't want to hurt China, but I'm watching them.

Now, I do believe China is an evil adversary of America, but I also know as leader of this country who has spent the last year kissing their butt, sending his Secretary of State, his Secretary of Treasury, his emissaries there to try to have a reapproach. Is this the right tactic? Which one are you? One minute he's saying, yes, he's a dictator.

Next minute he's calling him bad. And then he's saying, well, you know, I want to be able to approach him. What's wrong with this leadership style?

Well, let's be clear. If you're Xu Xinping, you saw those remarks too. And you think, what on earth is the American President saying? What's his view? And that kind of uncertainty, that kind of absence of clarity is the very essence of appeasement, right?

It gets to the failure to deter, to make clear to Xi Jinping, though there'll be real costs. You fly a spy balloon over the United States of America, we're going to impose costs. You sail with the Russians too close to our islands off the coast of Alaska, there will be consequences. Instead, the Biden administration says, gosh, can't we just have one more meeting? Or can't I send Secretary Kerry to China to urge you to reduce the number of coal-fired power plants you're producing, because climate change is more important than American security?

These are the things, Brian, you nailed it. These are the things that worry me the most because it sends a message to our adversaries, and Xi Jinping and China are certainly that. It sends a message that America isn't serious about protecting the things that matter to it most. And when you do that, the the bad guys decide it's time. Like what's the old Southwest Airlines line?

They feel free to move about the cabin. And that's dangerous. That's funny. Not many people are quoting Southwest Airlines these days, but Mike Pompeo is. Chose you, you're getting into civilian life.

So, Congressman, Mr. Secretary Director, so a couple of things that are taking place right now. We got an election going on, and we're making fast progress over something that should have been fleshed out in 2020, and that's Joe Biden using his influence and power that he's acquired since the 1970s in Washington to possibly make his family extremely wealthy. When Chris Christie, obviously at war with the former President Trump, was asked about this, this is what he said, cut seven. Why would you send Jared Kuster to the Middle East when you have Rex Tillerson and Mike Pompeo as secretaries of state?

We found out the answer six months after he left office. billion dollars. From the Saudis to Jared Kushner and Ibanka Trump. $2 billion. And because he did all this.

And more. With his family. He's normalizing this conduct, and now we have another president who's doing exactly the same thing. and allowing Hunter Biden To run roughshod, making money from foreign governments and selling access to Joe Biden. You want to take that on?

You bet. Look, I love Governor Christie. He's a friend, but he's just comparing two situations that are fundamentally different. What President Biden did is he While he was in office, Supported his child and his children's businesses by selling the American brand and by selling American access. Hunter Biden no more delivered value.

To the Ukrainians or the Chinese or to the widow of the mayor of Moscow than a man in the moon. We see no evidence that he did anything at all, that he delivered any value. What Mr. Krishner is doing, at least according to the reporting, is he's actually engaged in a business transaction. And those are fundamentally different things.

And President Trump's no longer in office. What President Biden appears to have done is to have sold access to the vice president's office by getting on the phone and at least creating the perception in the mind of the Ukrainian business people that they had access to decision makers inside of Washington. And I hope we get all the facts. I hope we clear it up. I hope President Biden will speak to this very directly.

But these situations are very different, Brian. And there absolutely is. And I'm a good friend. I like to think I'm good friends with Governor Christie, too. But he couldn't be more wrong in the timeline and everything he said.

Kushner was over there, you stop me if I'm wrong, focusing on Middle East peace, and they laughed at him. And oftentimes, a Secretary of State will handle all issues, but they'll have somebody as an envoy or emissary in the Middle East, usually Israeli and Palestinians, separate from the Secretary of State, but probably serving under. And Kushner was focused on this plan. And it produced the Abraham Accords. And then the $2 billion had nothing to do with that.

Brent, I lived it. Jared was a fantastic partner to me. We worked along with our ambassadors in the region. There's a big team, Secretary Mnuchin, all working. And Jared really led this effort that led to the Abraham Accords.

He was in it. He worked his tail off, and we delivered an amazing outcome for the world and for the region. And Jared should be proud of that. We're all very proud of it. And the American people are safer.

The chance that we have to send our young kids to fight and die someday in the Middle East is lower as a result of the work that we did. And it's historic. The Abraham Accords is something no one wants to give you guys credit for because it would have helped Donald Trump get reelected. But I never in my lifetime studying this ever thought there'd ever be any type of peace there, let alone a recognition which evidently is about to happen. They're about five months away.

Saudi Arabia, barring any major world event, is about to recognize Israel. And that was what you guys would have been working on in your second term had you decided to stick around and had Donald Trump won. But what was happening? What was the common denominator? It was, yeah, these are less than perfect regimes, but Iran's the worst.

And when you bring Iran in, you could say goodbye to that hedge that you had to bring these piece of cords to fruition. Am I correct? You got it exactly right. Our central our central proposition that got us to this historic peace understanding between Gulf States and Israel was this. Look, Iran is bad.

They're the primary cause of terror in the region. Let's isolate them. And we have isolated them like no other time in history. Second, look, the challenge of the Palestinians in Judea and Samaria is real. We're going to try and fix it.

We want their lives to be better too, but we're not going to let that stand in the way of peace. And once you did those two things, Once you punished the regime in Iran and once you made clear we're going to build out peace, amazing things happen. And I do hope that there are further countries that establish relationships with Israel in the Gulf. It would be good for Israel, good for those nations and really good for the United States as well. And Mr.

Secretary, are you getting close to deciding who you want to be the Republican nominee? I'm very confident I don't want the nominee from the Democrat Party to be President Biden, and I do not want the President to be from their party. That I'm sure of, Brian. Got it. Or do you believe the President's legal problems should prevent him from running?

Oh oh, you talk about President Trump or President Biden? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. No, I think the American people are perfectly capable of sorting this all out. Mr. Secretary, thanks so much.

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I just can't. I can't accept either party, to be honest with you.

So, why don't you become an independent? Why don't you say, you know what? You say, you've said many times that you're not like the Democrats today or the National Democratic Party. You're not like the National Republican Party. Why not just say, you know what, I'm going to be an independent?

You thought about that? Absolutely. Absolutely. No, I'm thinking seriously. What's the best?

For me, I have to have peace of mind, basically. The brand has become so bad, the D brand and R brand. You're thinking seriously. I don't want to put words in your mouth. I don't understand.

So you're thinking seriously about becoming an independent. I would think very seriously about that. I've been thinking about that for quite some time. I haven't made any decisions whatsoever on any of my political direction. I want to make sure that my voice is truly an independent voice.

So that's Joe Manchin, and here's why I think I believe him. Is because he can't. I don't think he can beat Jim Justice. Jim Justice is up by about 20, 30 points in West Virginia. He doesn't want to lose.

And the Democratic ticket, that seat's going to flip.

So rather than get out, why don't I run for president under no labels? Or I could run as an independent, but that would make no sense because then you'd lose the Democratic support, whatever there was in West Virginia.

So at 75 years old, does he want to go out losing? Or does he want to go out on his own terms, running for president, no labels? If he does that, conventional wisdom is he hurts Joe Biden or any Democrat more. And by the way, Cornell West could destroy Joe Biden's chance of re-election. We'll discuss that and so much more at the bottom of the air with Jimmy Phaler and have some fun.

You listen to the Brian Killmead Show. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. How can my corrupt political opponent, crooked Joe Biden, put me on trial during an election campaign that I'm winning by a lot? But forcing me nevertheless to spend time and money away from the campaign trail in order to fight bogus, made-up accusations and charges.

That's what they're doing. I'm sorry, I won't be able to go to Iowa today. I won't be able to go to New Hampshire today because I'm sitting in a courtroom on bullshit. He is ticked off, obviously the former President of the United States. Up by 32 points in Iowa, even more over in New Hampshire, winning nationally.

But today is a big day. Why?

Well, the government's going to come forward and they're going to say, We want to start this trial January 2nd. Both sides will say, one will say why it works. Say it takes four to five weeks, let's do it. And then the Trump team will say, Are you kidding me? You know how much more I have to do?

And plus, on average, when there's a case like this, usually wait two to three years. Joining us now, Jimmy Phalera, host of Fox Across America, might be joining Trump's legal team if the money is right and you have the free time. Would you join his legal team? I mean, there's a lot of turnover. I probably would.

Because it's not like you're altering your life for long. Right. You know, three weeks, a couple of TV hits, you're out the door. Yeah. How long do you think you would last with Trump?

I'd be the carnival goldfish of lawyers. You know what you would probably be? I would be, I think that you'd last forever because you'd go, yeah, let Trump be Trump. Doesn't really matter. Just get out of the way.

I'd be an enabler. Like a bad third base coach. You know, wave him home Willie Randolph. The Yankees, when Willie Randolph was a third base coach, he'd send the runner under any circumstance. Like Paul O'Neill would be coming around third on a walker.

They couldn't even stand upright anymore. I'd be like, Willie, like, you got this. That'd be me. You know who was worse? Yeah.

Bud Harrelson for the Mets. Whatever. Like a small, like a shallow single to left. And Bud's going to send Rusty. Rusty stouts heading for home.

I love it.

So, this is it. I find this whole thing fascinating because, as it was explained to me, if this trial takes place with this punisher judge, with this DC jury, which the president's gone out of his way to poison, or even worse, because he says it's accessible.

So, he does this. He gets convicted. He goes to jail while they appeal it.

So they'll put him in jail in February before Super Tuesday? Are you insane?

Well, that's you know what that'll do to this country? Oh, of course, but that's kind of the proof here that I think the process is the punishment. They're throwing this wrench into the spoke because they don't need him to go to jail. Obviously, what you're discussing is a worst-case scenario, but just the fact that we've got this boxing match. And essentially, the referee is going to be tying one of the fighters' arms behind his back.

I mean, it's not fair, okay, to the campaign, it's not fair to the voters, but this speaks to that reality that I don't even know. You know, that they think they're going to get a conviction so much as they're going to hamstring his process. It's like Russia. They started the Mueller probe knowing he didn't collude with Russia.

So they were basically trying to kill him in a death by a thousand cuts scenario where it'd self-destruct, fire Mueller, and make it look like there was something to hide. Right. And that's, I think, what they're hoping for here is they're trying to trigger some type of implosion. But the worst case scenario is they just impede his ability to campaign. While arresting everybody around him and charging him.

It's insane. Right. This isn't okay. This is why I don't want you to take the job in his legal team. Because I've pulled him out.

For example, today, hey, I can't believe it. I'm running a campaign again.

Next thing I was in solitary confinement in a jumpsuit, and he did nothing wrong. Nothing. Jimmy, would you take the fall for the president having not done anything wrong? Would you go to jail for him? I would, because I have no priors.

Like, I don't know how hard they're going to be on me. I know I sound like a guy with a few priors, but no, I'm actually, you know, solid model citizen. Did you hear a Rikers Island is so bad, not even for a prison, that the federal government wants to take it over? Isn't that true? Evidently, one of the things.

Are doing is just letting prisoners just walk around. What are the bars for? They've just let themselves go. They're just suggestions now. Listen, I prefer you stay in your cell block, but the option is yours.

It's more of a resort now. It's an all-inclusive. Right. Although, John Kespatiz did recommend that's where we should put the illegal immigrants that have come to our country. That's gone well, hasn't it?

Why not? I mean, listen, the nice thing about it is they've spent enough time in New York now that they actually miss the third world countries. It's actually backfiring. They're calling home on the free cell phones, like, it's actually pretty bad here, you guys.

So, this is the polling right now in Iowa: Trump with 43, DeSantis 17, Scott with 11 on the march, Ramaswamy with five.

So, the big change is DeSantis has dropped nine, and Scott has surged to third. He's worked towards been optimistic. I notice him and Trump do not argue. No, did you notice that? No, Timmy.

I like Timmy. Yeah, Tim's a good guy. Tim goes, you know, maybe he has some vice presidents. Presidential aspirations, but I think personally he's got his eye on a bigger prize at this point because this is the reality. DeSantis, for whatever reason, has failed to connect.

It's not to say he couldn't turn around, but I think he's playing into the narrative that he's a Scott Walker by shaking up his staff as much as he has. When everything you do is scrutinized so intensely, because DeSantis really is public enemy number one, I don't think you can feed into it by starting to make what look like panic moves. Not to say his campaign's done a good job, but when you're doing it in the eye of the storm, it certainly raises the specter that, yeah, there's something to the fact that this thing's imploding. Tim Scott and the fact that they've spent as much money on him in Iowa as they have is proof that the people with the money, you know, they say in Vegas, like the sharps, the sharps don't see DeSantis closing this gap.

So you invest in Tim Scott, not because you think he could beat Trump, but because there is a reality where Trump might not be on the ticket, man. I mean, that's reality. If the guy goes to jail, I don't doubt he's going to continue to run because there's no stopping him. But, you know, it really might. Change the national conversation.

What do they say in Vegas? Sharps? Yeah, the sharp money, the smart money. You know, stuff like, you know. Guy, once in a while you'll see like an 81, 82 to 1 horse win convincingly.

It's because, you know, the people with the money knew something we didn't. Who do you hang out with? Listen, I grew up at the Roosevelt Raceway. I grew up in Levittown. I had a grandmother who, you know, Sicilian grandmother used to end every conversation with, when I was five, kill me.

And she'd go, I love you, honey. Don't ever put anything in writing. I was like, Grandma, what's going on? Right. I can't write yet.

So I'm pretty safe. You're safe there.

So I don't think I have to tell you that Hunter Bynes been in the news lately. Ooh. The hunt man. Yeah, you have a pen ready?

So Eric Sherwin could be next to testify. And he's the guy that split from the family but had most of the banking records, new than money. He'd be the guy who could say, Hey, Hunter, get some money from your dad for your taxes. Hey, make sure your dad pays money for this. He'd be the one.

So this guy could blow the lid off it. What do you say to people who claim there's not much evidence, hard evidence, against Hunter or against Joe yet?

Well, I think that's insane because the truth is where you have to start, okay? And this is how they solve murders. They don't ask a guy, did you kill her? And he says yes. They solve the murder by realizing the guy has lied to them about everything leading up to the murder.

Okay, follow me. In this instance, what would the murder be? Joe, did you get money as a government official from your son's influence peddling overseas?

Okay, he's answering that question: no. But he's lied on every step of the way.

Okay, was your son's laptop real? No. Did you talk to your son about his business? No. Did you talk to his business partners?

No. These are the lies you're telling the prosecutors on the way to the actual big charge.

Okay, if the witness is lying about the first four things, he's not suddenly telling the truth about the fifth, you know?

So there'd be no reason for Biden to lie about those things unless he had something to hide. And that's just reason right there. Right. And I love that Admiral Kirby yesterday said that the president answered the questions. It shows he's been having the same answer.

Excuse me, two days ago, Peter Ducey had to hop a bike rack to get one question in, and before he could follow up, he turned and walked away. And they're pretending like that suffices for President. United States. And his answer ended, stop to all the critics and the chirping. He made a journalist do CrossFit to get an actual question in, and then told them it was lousy and walked away.

Right. Okay, listen, the reason these questions continue to surface is because these were massive lies told by the Biden family. And everybody in the media should be demonstrating a little more intellectual curiosity than what we're seeing right now. And that's the scam right there.

So listen, we know that the laptop is real. We know that the president called in at least 10 times over the course 20 times over the course of 10 years, according to Devin Archer, on speakerphone. We know he had dinner with the Moscow mayor as well as the Brismer executive. All this stuff we know. We were told none of that was true.

Now it turns out they're all true. Then we heard it was just, I'm passing by, said hello to the table. Then Archer goes, no, no, he stayed for dinner. He stuck around.

Okay.

So listen to Admiral Kirby get this question from Martha McCallum yesterday. On your favorite channel, Fox News. The President said I never talked business to anybody. But Devin Archer testified that the point of putting the phone, the speakerphone, down at those meetings, which is what Peter was asking about, was just to demonstrate access, that Hunter had access to the then Vice President and to sell the Biden brand.

So what do you say about that, John? And when will the President actually answer some of these questions to put some of this to rest himself? Oh my goodness, Martha. I mean he just did with Peter. I mean he's the one who called Peter over and had Peter, you know, risk life and limb cutting across that barrier.

I mean he specifically called Peter over. And he, you know, look, he knows Peter. He knows Peter's not going to ask some softball question about how his vacation was. He knows who Peter is and he answered that question. He told them it was a last question.

Last question. Yeah, well, in that case, we're done. Right. You know, again, I think we're being unreasonable. It's like, other than the bank records, the photographs, the notes from Biden to Hunter's business partners, the 20 phone calls, the testimony on the firing of the prosecutor.

There's really not a lot to go on. I think we're really jumping to conclusions here, kids. Right. And by the way, this is the overarching thing: that Peter Schweitzer wrote the original book that alerted us to this relationship, at least in my case. He came out and said, No one can tell me what the business was about.

Tell me what Hunter was selling, except for the influence, and tell me who had it. Show me anybody that had it except Joe. Nobody had it except Joe. Total scam. And that's the thing.

So let's see. We have concluded this. We were willing to go through this investigation. How's CNN handling it? Let's listen.

Cut one. You definitely have made a case that the people who are around President Biden in terms of the lobbyists and his son Hunter. have trafficked on that connection to The then vice president, now president. But I haven't yet seen any evidence that the president did anything wrong. Good.

So we can get over this? Can I move on? Jimmy, nothing to see here. Why are we even discussing this? Right.

That was like, this is the part, and shame on them because they, again, were people who were out there front and center saying the laptop was fake. Remember, Jake Tapper is a guy that was trying to kill this story at its inception. There was no laptop in the crib. There was no business. Nobody was involved.

And now we've taken it down to, well, you don't have a video of him handing him a bag of cash. Right. Well, yeah, we're probably not going to get one because that's not how this works. Where is the deposit slip? Here is, you answer me, sir.

Here's Tapper and Comer cut to. What did the president do wrong, though?

Well, remember, when we started this investigation at the end of January, that's when I got subpoena variety, the last week of January. The narrative was the laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe Biden's family never received money from China. Joe Biden's family never received any of this money while he was vice president. And Joe Biden never communicated with any of the people that sent his family this money.

All four of those things have been proven false.

So our investigations already turned up a lot of information.

Now, I think even though there may not be any curiosity by my friends at CNN, I think there's curiosity by a majority of Americans. Wait a minute. You're telling me that. I'm very curious about it, sir. I'm very curious about it.

That's why I'm reading your reports. That's why I have you on the show. Mm. Yeah, I'm very curious that the guy's gonna be. There's no product.

Yeah. The product, he's not selling Amway. The product is actually Joe's influence. And what about the deposits that happened before Joe's meeting? What about the dinner with these people in Georgetown?

Mind you, that if this business is legitimately being done, why are the funds transferring through 15 shell companies and winding up in the grandkids' bank accounts? I'm sure, you know, back in the day, you'd go out to dinner and split the check. I don't ever think anyone asked you to Venmo them 15 different addresses before the money wound up where it had to go.

So, again, I don't know if I can answer these questions because you might be joining Trump's legal team.

So I don't know if you're in the position. I've got to retain myself.

So I retained Jonathan Churley. Here's what he said went wrong, Cutfully.

Well, we've heard this drumbeat recently that the media is now acknowledging that, sure, Hunter Biden was selling influence and access, but it was an illusion. And There's no proof that Joe Biden got an envelope full of money or a direct deposit to his account. Therefore, there's nothing here. Democrats have constantly said: stop asking questions because you don't have that type of direct evidence of benefits.

Well, that's just ridiculous. I mean, obviously, all of these payments benefit Joe Biden. It's going to the Biden Family Fund. You know, Joe Biden is 80 years old. He's worth at least $8 million.

He's not going to spend that. People at his age, his wealth, are largely preoccupied during these days with leaving a legacy for their children, for their grandchildren. This was a great benefit in that sense.

Well, largely occupied with leaving a legacy for most of their grandchildren. Right, Mr. Turley, there's a fine analysis. Yeah. The whole thing's a scam.

I mean, you know that, and I know that. And it's just based on a very simple horse sense. When the witness lies about the first four things, they're not telling you the truth about the fifth. When we come back, Jimmy talks about the moon landing. When we come back, Jimmy maybe has an announcement?

Yeah, no, there's a thing. We're going to get into it. I promise, yeah, high-security clearance information coming your way. Back in a moment. Educating, entertaining, enlightening.

You're with Brian Kilmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Killmead. The Moonland. That beautiful moment of unity and progress. What if it was all both of you?

Hot. My name is Jimmy Faylor. And I'm on a nationwide mission to uncover the truth about one of the oldest and wildest conspiracy theories of all time. Along the way, I'll be joined by the experts. And unlike every CDC task force ever assembled, We encourage different perspectives.

The easiest way to fake the moon landing would be to shoot it on the moon. You have four times the proof necessary to prove that the moon landings are fake. There was never a point where I doubted that the moon landings were real. I taught Neil Armstrong everything about. Um You're laughing.

That, of course, is Jimmy Phela. It's giving us an idea what the Fox Nation special is all about. When are you going to finally drop this thing? When are you going to be done with it?

Now it's live. Moonlighting Fact of Fiction. It's live today. You can get it on Fox Nation. That's the breaking news.

That was the thunderous voice of William Shatner at the end. He had introduced me. I was filming on Hollywood Boulevard. Apparently, he's some kind of a struggling actor. And he had begged his way into the project.

And, you know, it's all about giving back. When you get to the position I'm in, you say to a struggling guy like Shatner, you know, here's a bone.

So I threw him in there. You know, without letting him, he was leaning on Leonard Newman. Leonard Numa. Newman carried him for far too long. Absolutely.

But Moonlighting Factor Fiction, no spoiler alerts, Killmead. I can't tell you how it ends. But we issue a verdict over whether or not we made it after taking a deep dive into the realm of conspiracy. Is this better than Oppenheimer or? I've been told that they wouldn't have released Oppenheimer if they knew something this good was coming out.

I know you interviewed Nolan and he loves you. Right. But I do think, you know, in the words of Tom Petty, he will back down if he knew this was out.

So, Jimmy, you said you've heard. Could you Tagimi tell me who has told you that Oppenheimer wouldn't have been released if you're a specialist? I'm not supposed to reveal my sources and methods. You're refusing. This is, yeah, this is one of those moments where, you know, the DOJ can't cooperate with your subpoena.

But you're not done yet with announcements. No, if you're listening anywhere in the tri-state area or beyond it, tickets are going to go on sale next week. My one-hour stand-up comedy special, this is a big deal, is filming at the Paramount in Huntington on Long Island. And we tape the show Friday night, October the 13th.

So if you come down, you get rowdy, you'll watch the show, and you'll be in the show when it airs on Fox because that's going to be the audience we use for the special. I mean, you have the biggest names, Kevin James, all these guys play the Paramount. But now their ship has really sailed in. And our man. Meaning you.

Yeah, yeah. This is obviously a big deal for them. You know, Whitney Houston once sang, give me one moment in time.

Well, congratulations. Congratulations, Paramount. You got it.

So, Jimmy, once again, you're giving reports that it's a big deal for them. Can you give me names of people who said it's big deal? No, my Aunt Fran in Carl Place, Long Island. My mom says this is massive. That's too.

It's thank you.

Okay.

That's all you need. Yeah, that's all. I just wanted to say that. It's double source. See, the first double one.

It's double source one I doubt, but this is one of the sources. This is real journalism.

So, when do we listen to your radio show? Fox Cross America coming on at noon today, right after you, the Badon Pass. And please wear that. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kelmead.

Hi, everyone. Thanks so much for being here this hour. It's going to be exciting. You're going to hear from Dr. Jordan Peterson, one of the most fascinating personalities in America, born in Canada, a clinical psychologist, best-selling author, great on live events here on Joe Rogan and everything else.

And of course, we come to you from 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan. When he comes into town, I said, let's just go do it. And we did it. And you'll hear more from Jordan Peterson on One Nation Saturday night, 8 o'clock Eastern Time.

So that's on Fox News channel. A lot going on today. We're continuing to follow Iowa. Why Iowa? Because the President of the United States Foreign President is going to be there on Saturday.

All the candidates who are serious about winning the caucus will be there today and tomorrow. And of course, the governor will have their sit-down town hall-ish feature of all these candidates. But guess who turned it down? President Trump kinda mad at the governor of Iowa. Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Iran will not be receiving any sanctions relief. And in any instance where we would engage in such efforts to bring Americans home from Iran, Iran's own funds. would be used.

Foreign policy, I just can't support. The administration does what I think is a dirty deal to get five Iranian Americans out of Iran. They're in house arrest. They're going to get $6 billion in return, unfrozen from South Korea.

Meanwhile, in Ukraine, the President wants 20 million more. The problem, he doesn't talk about the reasons for the war, sell the American public, nor does he give the Ukrainians the weapons they need to win. Number two. Crooked Joe now wants the thug prosecutor, this deranged guy, to file a court order taking away my First Amendment rights so that I can't speak.

So listen to this. We don't want you to speak about the case. That's true. Trump trouble. Fight for the trial date begins in earnest today.

No question, the former president's problems would be a burden on his quest for the presidency. But should it all but shelve the race until he decides what's he going to do? What about the rest of the field? Can they break out? before the five months from now in the caucus and two weeks from now in the debate.

Number You definitely have made a case that his son Hunter Have trafficked on that connection to the then vice president, now president. But I haven't yet seen any evidence that the president did anything wrong. Everything but a Joe Biden deposit slip, influence peddling while in office. That's where the James Comer investigation is. And now he wants to hear from the Biden family.

Soon we will, and they will be front and center, as will another partner, Eric Sherwin. We'll talk about the multi-million dollar deals. Uh and so much more.

So A couple of things that happened this week I think are significant. Paul Sperry, one of our guests yesterday. came on and said. I realized everything that they wrote about in 2020 as it surrounds Hunter Biden and the laptop. Was wrong, and I'm talking about the fact checker, the Washington Post.

Oftentimes, bad as that sounds, the standard-bearer on truth and honesty. And they basically said the laptop wasn't real. The president never met with the Hunter Biden's business people. Why did Glenn Kessler say that? Glenn Kessler said it because when he saw what was in the New York Post, he thought it would be a good idea to call the Biden administration and see if they agreed.

Shockingly, they didn't. Problem now is the investigation revealed that we began in earnest in January that the president. Met were talked to through speaker phone. Hunter's business partners, according to Devon Uh Archer over the course of their ten-year business relationship twenty times. The problem is they wrote it never happened.

The problem is the President had a meeting at Georgetown. On the fourteenth, And a famous hotel. Restaurant. President said he never went there. The problem is, he did.

Devin Archer proved it. It ends up he was there. In the beginning, they said he walked by. Then it turned out he sat there for an entire dinner.

So instead of saying we were wrong, they updated the story. That's what everyone's doing, updating the story. Influence peddling using President Biden as the influencer. Why do I think it was him? It's the only product that the Bidens had to sell.

They were consistently selling. What emerged yesterday is a picture on Air Force Two of then Vice President Biden en route to Ukraine with a billion dollars in his pocket. We would know eventually to fire a prosecutor. The person in this briefing him on the meeting or something on the plane was somebody with direct contact with Hunter Biden, who had expressed via text that it doesn't look good for Hunter to be involved with a Burisma energy company when the Vice President was in charge of Ukraine. And we know that he had a relationship with how many more ties do you need to this story?

Listen to Jake Tapper. Tap around the facts. Cut two with James Comer.

Well, remember, when we started this investigation at the end of January, that's when I got subpoena virus, the last week of January. The narrative was the laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe Biden's family never received money from China. Joe Biden's family never received any of this money while he was vice president. And Joe Biden never communicated with any of the people that sent his family this money.

All four of those things have been proven false.

So our investigation's already turned up a lot of information.

Now, I think even though there may not be any curiosity by my friends at CNN, I think there's curiosity by a majority of Americans who, wait a minute. You're telling me. I'm very curious about it, sir. I'm very curious about it. That's why I'm reading your reports.

That's why I have you on the show. Okay.

But he has to use some deductive reasoning, just a fraction of which he used for the Russia investigation, which turned out to be a complete hoax. Russians had nothing to do with collaborating with the former President of the United States.

Okay?

So, use some deductive reasoning.

Now, Elizabeth Warren, who's always talking about the evils of Washington, was asked about this Hunter Biden. and how it bad it looks for the Biden. who happens to be the leader of her party. She couldn't get to the point. She couldn't get to the point where I am very upset at President Biden.

By the way, when he was Vice President Biden trying to get the nomination, Elizabeth Warren destroyed him, cut through.

So far, we haven't seen any direct evidence. Pointing to Joe Biden, President Biden, doing anything. Illegal. But I do wonder people close to Joe Biden, or people close to Donald Trump, but I'm talking about Joe Biden, making tens of millions of dollars because of their Closeness to him. That can't be something that you like.

That can't be something that you're comfortable with as a phenomenon. Look, I I always worry. About the influence of peddlers in Washington, regardless of party affiliation. I've spent a lot of my time in Congress working on. is how we bring just more ethics.

So, doesn't want to answer the question. Um This is surrounding him. He answered one question. Since july fifteenth, And before that it was months. And the one time he sat down was with the Weather Channel, at which time they want him to be more green.

They want him to ban more federal lands from drilling.

So not even a real interview.

So let's look at what the Biden campaign is doing. If you want to hear about the lack of enthusiasm, I think it's best. displayed By his campaign manager. This is Julio Cesar Chavez's great-granddaughter. Of course, the problem with the president, he can't get Hispanic votes, and the worry that Democrats have overarching.

Where he is Hispanic votes.

So that's everything to do with why she's a campaign manager. You talk about low energy. Listen to this, Cut Eight. Keeping the conversation going about enthusiasm, just kind of bigger picture. We've seen a lot of polls that show voters aren't that enthusiastic about a Joe Biden reelection.

And just last month, CNN had a poll that found 75% of Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters want someone else. How do you turn that around?

Well, we know that polls are snapshots in time. And we know that it's important that we're not taking anything and any vote for granted this election cycle. And so we're excited that we have built an incredible sort of early start to our campaign, the enthusiasm that we're seeing from a broad coalition of supporters. Ugh. What a dial tone Don't believe it.

When we come back, we talk about life. Philosophy, Where We're At as a Nation and More with Dr. Jordan Peterson, Critical Psychologist. You are listening to Brian Kilmey Channel. It's Brian Killmead.

A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, welcome back, everybody. Jordan Peterson, Dr. Jordan Peterson, the outstanding clinical psychologist, best-selling author, probably one of the most successful podcasters in the country.

You probably saw him, heard him for the first time with Joe Rogan. Came into the studio, and we just sat for a. Half hour. Here is part one of my interview. I think you're going to love it.

And we begin with what's going on with kids in the workplace. They forgot how to act. Listen. It turns out new hires in 2023, according to a new study, are totally unprepared for work and life. Not saying everybody, but a lot of them.

Psychologist and author Dr. Jordan Peterson joins us now. Dr. Peterson, great to see you. Thank you very much.

So when this study popped up, we thought you got to weigh in on this. They say that Gen Zers come in they're sincere, but if they have no necessary Instinct on what to do next. Find them a lot sitting idly by waiting for instructions on what to do next. Does that make sense to you?

Something about this generation that would have trouble being self-motivated.

Well, I think that if you set up an education system that's designed To do nothing but demoralize young people and to convince them that their ambition is. Dangerous and well, even world-threatening for that matter, a manifestation of patriarchal oppression on the social front, and then a danger to the survival of the planet on the natural front. And you don't do anything to foster that ambition and to Channel it into a manner that might be productive and to tell young people why their ambition might be useful, then you're going to get exactly that.

So you hit what you aim at if you try hard enough. And the education system has been trying to demoralize people for 60 years. One of the things that really stuns me, you know, I haven't been able to figure this out yet. I've been trying to talk to Republican governors about this. I cannot understand why conservatives have been daft enough to allow the faculties of education to retain their hammer lock on teacher certification for the last 60 years.

It's insane. You mean the criteria to get the certification? And what's the problem? Exactly. You have to be trained.

in a faculty of education to become a teacher. Why?

They're the most woke element of the entire rotten university carcass, and they have the hammerlock on fifty percent of the state budgets. You know, the Conservatives are always complaining about the culture war. It's like, well, you handed all the young people. To the faculties of education, right? Their research is terrible.

It's low rate. Their students are generally very incompetent. comparatively speaking on the academic front, you know. It's foolish. And this is the outcome.

It's not surprising. And it's a way to work on the foundation. And when you have an RNC chair or a DNC chair, if you have an agenda, that's what to work on. Don't get Mr. and Mrs.

candidate elected. Start focusing on the direction you want the country in and find out how to give people an education that will allow them to, at the very least, think, but not what to think.

Well, the left-wingers in the 1960s were. far seeing enough, the more radical types, to envision a decades long march through the institutions, right? And one of their goals was the capture of educational institutions, and that's happened completely. And that's been absolutely abetted by Conservatives who tend to get lost in the details. Um Well, then you think now you have young people who are demoralized and directionless.

Well, they're never taught anything about how to acquire a direction. You know, we did a study, I used this program I developed called Future Authoring. We did a study where we had three studies actually, where we had university students sit down essentially for 90 minutes, 90 minutes, this was it, and write out a goal, a series of goals for their life, right? Who could they be in five years across seven important dimensions of their life, and where might they be that would be terrible if they didn't get their act together? We dropped their dropout rate 50% and raised their grade point average by 35%.

Three separate studies.

So that's all you have to do if you want to motivate young people is to teach them a bit of visionary discipline and encourage it. And we do the opposite of that. Plus, we terrify them, trigger warnings, we tell them that everything's dangerous. We tell them the earth is burning up. There's that too.

And we're headed for the apocalypse. And your ambition is making it worse. Which I think the pandemic is so interesting on that is because I think adults too said to themselves, they forced, most of the population was forced to put their life on pause and just said, slow down, stop, go home. No, we're making you go home.

So, not me, I was lucky enough to keep working, but I had to work remotely. Everyone's life changed. And people took a deep breath and they said, Why am I in this job? Why is it necessary for me to do this? If life does stop, nothing will change.

It seems like. Our population got off the treadmill and said. Why what why get back on? And they're having trouble getting back on. When they get back on, they're not as motivated because they don't know why they're doing it.

And you said to me in the break on Fox and Friends this weekend: it's because they don't have goals, they don't have a vision. If you have a vision, that leads to happiness. Why?

Because you have a mission, you have a direction, because you know what you want the end game to be. And that's back to your 15 minutes. It also put that 15 minutes in, you find out what your end game is. Don't tell me you don't know. Work on it.

Well, it does two things: having a goal.

Well, if you have a goal and it's a collective goal, That unites people.

So, a collective vision is what unites people because then everyone is heading in the same direction. Everyone regards the same things as positive. Everybody uses the same structure to protect themselves from anxiety and their emotions are aligned.

So, a goal, a united goal, a collective goal, is what unites us. Then, on the individual front, If you have a goal and you see yourself taking steps towards it, that is what produces positive emotion and positive motivation, that enthusiastic desire to get up and go. And it also stops anxiety because. You either have a goal or you're fragmented. If you're fragmented, you don't know which direction to go in, that gives you too many directions.

That makes you anxious. That's what anxiety is. I don't even know what to say. I'm out. I'm out.

And I think that what you just said with that 15 minutes is so important because, especially with teenagers, just in college, just graduate, I don't really know what I want to do. What do you want to do?

Well, that's fine to know that, but you've got to take action to solve that. To do that, you've got to go take action to go find out. What does Dr. Jordan Peterson do? Why does he seem so fulfilled?

What about the guy down the block that owns his garage? Why does he seem happy every day?

Well, he always wanted to be his own business, goal, his own shots. He wanted to help people. But you have to go work at finding out what is effective. I think you have an obligation to make the most out of life. And I think people get the worm.

Definition on happiness. What is happiness? Happiness is not high-five and necessarily smiling. It's having a mission.

Well, it's also not the gratification of immediate desire. Like, there's actually two forms of positive emotion, eh? There's the emotion that you feel, let's say, after having a good meal, after a Thanksgiving dinner. And that's just satiation. But satiation puts you to sleep.

Now it's pleasant because you don't need anything, but it isn't motivating. Motivation comes in a pursuit. You have to be pursuing a goal, and so then you have to figure out what your goal is. And it's not optional. You know, the other thing for people to think about is: well, You know, you might say, Well, I'm the sort of person that doesn't plan.

It's like, well, that's because you're afraid. That's part of the reason, and you should overcome that. But it's also the case that if you don't have your plan, Someone else has a plan for you. And whatever responsibility you abdicate will be taken up by tyrants, and whatever direction you don't provide for yourself will be provided by other people who don't have your best interest in mind. That's how it works.

And that's how smart he is. More from Dr. Jordan Peterson. He loves being challenged, loves taking questions. I also will say.

I did notice when he was on Fox and Friends. I saw people come out of our building. A lot of young men in their twenties just had to meet him. They were starstruck. And listen, there's a lot of celebrities that come through here.

Not you know, not like NBC, the Today Show. That's more their that's more their breadbasket. But No, I never saw that type of reaction. People just in awe. And I asked him at the end of our interview: I said, Where are you going now?

He goes, Well, believe it or not. I'm booked in the Middle East, I've never been there. I said how? He goes, I had no idea I had supporters and fans in the Middle East, but we got these venues all sold out already. Think about that.

You'll hear more from Jordan Peterson in a moment. Right now, he's thinking about something that's going to change somebody else's life, too. Listen to the Brian Kill Me Show.

So glad you're here on a Friday. Don't forget, One Nation, Saturday, 8 p.m. Don't move. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead.

Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show. I promise you more from Dr. Jordan Peterson. He talks about life, he talks about how to make your life better, things that he personally discovered about himself. And where he's at right now.

I mean, this guy literally had a disease. It almost destroyed his life. He and his wife, at the same time, almost died. They bounced all the way back. He talks about that and more.

Here's more from Dr. Jordan Peterson. So, Dr. Peterson, I watch you too in the break. People like young men, especially walking up to you, kind of your autograph, asking you a quick question.

So you're helping people. And that must be a good feeling. A lot of people think, well, how do I feel satisfied? One of the things I think is universal is there's nothing better than helping somebody. And one of the things you can do when you have a family on a regular basis, you're training, you're solving problems, bringing them to practice, getting them to a better school, going doing your best to make an effort to be a good parent.

And that leads me to what would be an absence of my life without a family. It would just be, it would almost be like not having an appendage. And now I also see in America more and more people having less kids or no kids, decide not to get married or decide to be childless. And I respect everybody who makes that decision, that's fine. But do you think it points to a bigger story in the world today, in this country today?

Well, one of the Points that I've put forward that have become rather markedly popular is the notion that. The meaning that sustains you in times of trouble will be found as a consequence of adopting responsibility. See, and this is another thing conservatives haven't been very good at. Communicating to young people because conservatives.

Somewhat finger-wagging in their morality. You should do this. And, you know, fair enough, there are things you should do. But there's a better story there, and the story is the one that you started to outline, which is.

Well, if you look at what you have at hand when times get rough, let's say, which they certainly will, you'll find that most of the genuine self-esteem that you feel and the cessation of anxiety and the pursuit of happiness is a consequence of bearing responsibility. You bear responsibility for yourself over the long run, for your wife or your husband over the long run, for your family, for your community, and that's a reciprocal interaction, so you'll get paid back. By the people you're helping for doing that, but it also is an intrinsic thing. But you don't do it for any reason to do that. No, no, you do it because everything works if you do that.

So, the other thing, see, we thought for a long time, and this is actually could be laid at the feet of psychologists to some degree, that your happiness or even your mental stability is somehow an internal thing. It's psychological. But that's not exactly right. Your mental health and your happiness, so your freedom from anxiety and your happiness, is dependent on the harmony that you establish within the systems that you're embedded.

So you can't be sane and happy without a long-term partner. And the data on that is quite clear, because married people are a lot happier than unmarried people. You can't be sane and together within a couple without having a family. It might be your parents and your siblings, but it should also be children because you have to knit that together. And then your family can't function without a functioning neighborhood and then a community and then a state.

And the sanity is the harmony between all those levels. It's not something you carry around inside you. And it's partly. Key to sanity being embedded at all those levels because none of us are capable in and of ourselves of regulating ourselves. Like when you and I are even talking right now, the communication regulates.

We regulate each other with the communication, right? You're saying things, I'm saying things, we're trying to keep it interesting, we're trying to move forward, you know, in a production. We're both simulated and intrigued. Exactly. Well, right, right.

So we have a container, which is the goal, and then there's interest being manifested. And if we do that right, we pull everyone in.

Well, that's a good situation, right? And then your emotions are well regulated when all of that is happening. Key to that is responsibility. You know, we talked on the Fox and Friends episode about the fact that young men are turning more towards conservatism. And I really believe, and I've watched this a lot, that that's because they're starting to understand more explicitly the utility of adopting a heavy load of responsibility.

Now, I mentioned that, you know, I think the girls will go along with that in a few years. And I was thinking that through the other night. Boys go out with younger girls. There's a dichotomy between the political position of boys and girls that are the same age, but Girls the same age as high school boys aren't their peers. The boys are with younger girls.

The younger girls will change in that more conservative direction if the boys change first. That's what will happen. You are um You're a deep thinker. I'm wondering, do you set time aside to think? Will you just wait for a gap in your day and stare out the window?

Like, where do you get these thoughts and conclusions from? Because also, think one of your 12 axioms for a happy life, one of which is you can learn something from everyone you're with.

So, where do you, you don't think you know everything, but your viewers do and the people that buy tickets do. Where do you have time to make your conclusions and grow as a person and as an intellect?

Well, I have podcasts twice a week. And so I'm always listening to someone who's smart because I find podcast guests who have something to say that I want to hear. And so when I talk to them, I have the opportunity for them to teach me.

So the audience is benefiting and you're benefiting. Absolutely. And the good podcast hosts are just learning, and then they bring everyone along for the ride. And that's what I'm trying to do with my podcast. I always invite people from whom I want to hear because I presume they know something I don't, and they do.

So that's helpful. And then I write every day. And writing. Writing is the most formal way of thinking, right? Because you have to ask yourself a question.

You have to wait for the answer, so that's kind of a revelation. Then you have to analyze the answer. And that sort of thinking is extremely useful if you want to lay things out clearly. We developed.

So don't let someone tell you they're not a writer. If you want to be a better thinker, you should be a writer, right? Yes, well, and you have to ask yourself, too, why you would bother thinking. And the answer to that is because if you think things through, then you can act more effectively. I mean, that's the point of thought.

Thought is a substitute for action.

So Alfred North Whitehead said, We die so that we think so our thoughts can die instead of us. Right? And so. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's too deep for me. You also have an essay app. Yeah, yeah. I'm watching right now and go, I'm a Tailborn writer. I'm going to skip on that.

Yes. And the essay app helps you. Yeah, at essay.app.

Well, we built this word processor essentially that teaches people how to produce and to edit, because writing really writing has and thinking has three components. You have to have a problem that you want to solve. It has to be a real problem, right? It has to beset you to some degree. Then you have to inquire humbly for a solution, and then you'll get ideas that pop up, or you can read more, and you get ideas that start to percolate.

But a lot of those are going to be second-rate ideas that other people have already disproved, but you've got to get them down. Then you have to edit and organize, and this essay.app. Process that we've put together teaches people exactly how to do that.

So, if you're writing, you have to concentrate on each word because you should use the right word. You have to make the phrases proper, and they have to be organized within sentences, and the sentences have to be sequenced properly within paragraphs, and then the paragraphs sequenced properly to make the argument. You have to edit at all those levels, and people don't know that, right? Ask, produce. Organize and edit.

Well, then you're clear-headed, and then you have a pathway forward, and then you're a more effective communicator, and everything works out better for you. And that's partly why people shouldn't use ChatGPT and these AI systems to write for them. It's like, well, you can do your damn assignment, but you're not going to learn to think, and you're not going to have any knowledge at hand.

Well, that'll just cripple you in the future. Like, for example, I used to be good at directions when I used to get a hagstrom. And now my instincts have dropped through the floor. I just go, okay, where am I going? I hit in the address.

I don't even think. I'm not even thinking what part of the island I'm at or where I'm going.

So you don't know where you are with AI. I'm going to stop thinking. Why do I need it? That's a really good example, actually, because. You think to navigate through the world, right?

And so if you abdicate your responsibility to think, then you don't know where you are and you don't know where you're going. And that's not a recipe for either happiness or success.

So the navigation Analogy is exactly the right one. Real quick on education, you talked about accommodations.

So someone has ADD, they're told, dyslexia or other things. In the public school now, there's a lot of accommodations. I'm going to give you more time for your test or things to that nature. I have trouble tracking across the line. You think accommodations in many cases don't show progress, can be limiting.

Why?

Well The problem with the accommodation hypothesis is something like: the advantage is, well, You want to do what you can to help people who might have obstacles that could be overcome to learn. That's not unreasonable. But the problem with the accommodation hypothesis is.

Well what happens when you have an actual problem to solve? You're not going to be accommodated you're not going to be accommodated in a workforce that requires genuine competition. Because if you're accommodated in a workforce that requires genuine competition, you're just going to be taken out. There's no time for that. You might say, well, there should always be time.

It's like, well, not if there are important things at stake.

Well, it's, it's, there's going to. That's foolish, right? Because when you're making important decisions, you're always balancing one catastrophe against another. You don't have the option that everything's going to turn out. And so the problem with accommodation, well, first of all, it's going to be gamed and it's being gamed like mad.

And second, it gives the person who's being accommodated to the wrong picture of the world to which they're going to adapt. If you think about this with parenthood, how should you treat your kids?

Well, as a mother and father, you should be a proxy for the world. Maybe a slightly more merciful proxy. But basically, the message you send your kids about their behavior is the same message that the world is going to send them. It should be. Because otherwise, you're not preparing them for the world.

You know, so maybe your kid's annoying as hell to you and your wife, and you don't do anything about it because you think, well, we're all mercy. It's like that's just fine until your kid has to make a friend or, you know, deal with an adult that's not you, in which case they're going to get slaughtered. There's nothing merciful about that. And if you accommodate people beyond what the environment itself would allow, you misinform them about the. The world they're going to inhabit.

And plus, it can be gamed, and it's being gamed constantly. Yeah, and lastly. I just noticed too, as much as you know the crowds that you draw, you told me you're going over to the Middle East where you have this huge foundation. It's unbelievable what you've done. I always find, too, when you talk about yourself and your relationships.

You sound like you have the same issues that everybody has. Of course. But I think people that also helps tell the Jordan Peterson story. I'm trying hard to be successful relaying what I learned, but I'm still dealing with the same stuff.

Well, it's important for people to know that people who are successful, let's say, aren't the people who are fortunate enough to have no problems. No one is in the category of fortunate enough to have no problems. People like that don't exist. Everybody deals with aging and death and severe illness. And you've dealt with that and your wife at the same time.

Yes, yes, and my daughter too, all of us at the same time. And, you know, it's the case for everyone.

Now, you meet people now and then, and I met lots of people like this in my clinical practice, who have so many things going wrong at the same time that, you know, it's just an unutterable catastrophe. But the fact that there are people like that, and there are people who are clearly Clearly, experiencing higher levels of misfortune, say, than the norm, doesn't mean that the successful people are the ones who have no problems. That's just the successful people are the people who keep on going. And they're fortunate enough to be able to do that often, to keep on going regardless of what's being thrown at them. And that's in the nature of success, right?

Don't take for granted one day that it's going to continue if you put your hand, take your foot off the gas. Yeah, that as well. Online school, you and your daughter working together. What should we know, and how do we get it?

Well, we've got about 30 courses. Recorded so far in a studio in Miami. They look very good, they're very professionally produced. We are trying to find the best lectures in the world.

So, if you think you're a good lecturer and you want to participate, give that some thought. That's Peterson Academy. We hope we'll be ready to roll in November. We want to make sure that we have the best lectures that we can possibly provide on the most germane topics, and then we're going to ally that with a very stringent testing and accrediting system so that if you are a graduate of this particular institution, the people who hire you will know that you. Learned what you were to Aiming at learning and that you did the proper work.

And that's extraordinarily important because employers need to know that. Absolutely. Dr. Jordan Peterson, I know you had a few hurdles to clear to get here. I really appreciate your time.

I know our audience does. Best success coming your direction. And if you want to go see you in person, just go to JordanBPeterson.com. There's some tickets on sale for a show I'm going to do in London. I started this alliance.

I'm participating in this alliance for responsible citizenship, which we're trying to produce a world view that isn't. For the future, that isn't predicated on fear and compulsion. And so there are tickets on sale for London now at the O2 for the public part of that. Wow, you don't do things small. Dr.

Minison, thanks so much. Great to see you, sir. Thanks for the invitation. And that was the invitation, and that was the interview. You'll hear more on One Nation on Saturday night, Dr.

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So the White House clearly trying to gin up excitement for President Biden's 2024 campaign. His CNN's poll from last week found that President Biden's approval rating is at only 41%, only 37% of Americans approve of his handling of the economy. I said this in our staff meeting today. I feel like I've been noting this for three years. President Biden is out there heralding such and such, and the American people disapprove overwhelmingly.

30 years in, we're still having this conversation. Uh welcome back, everybody. That is uh That is Jake Tapper on CNN talking about the President Biden and his quest for reelection. He feels, according to a political story, that thanks to abortion and his success, not only does he feel he's going to win again, he's going to expand the map. He thinks he's got a shot at Ohio and North Carolina, the 12-week abortion ban, and they think North Carolina was so unpopular with the North Carolina people.

Not lawmakers got a shot. And we saw the vote that said the Ohio Republicans were trying to pass, that said you need 60 votes to change the law when it comes to how many weeks abortion is allowed in Ohio, that they wanted to change it to, I think, zero or six. And they were going to prevent the Democrats from getting support for that. And get to, when they did a referendum, get over 60%.

Well, that was just rejected, which means a simple 50% would put it back to where it was. But when you put abortion on the docket in 2022, it barely gave the House to Republicans and stopped, it seemed, Republicans from taking the Senate.

Now, they favored to take the Senate. They got a few places where they're going to do it. They got a great shot. In Montana. Tester should be done if anyone really examines his record.

I think Jim Justice beats Joe Manchin easily in West Virginia. And then you see where else you can have a chance of flipping. You don't need much.

Now, you've lost Manchin. It looks like you could be an independent and over in Arizona. My goodness, Kerry Lake's going to give it another shot, it seems, but it looks as though. You have a Left wing Democrat going against what could be Kristen Sinema as an independent or a moderate Democrat. And if she runs as a third party, that will absolutely deliver, it seems, the Republican seat, the seat back to Republicans, where it's been traditionally for quite some time.

Today, everyone is in Iowa and they're talking about not Joe Biden, but they're talking about Republicans and they're talking about what they could do to get things going for their campaign. Because right now, in Iowa, Trump is up with 43%. DeSantis has dropped 9%. He's down to 17%. He's still there today.

He's at the he's at he's at the fair, the Iowa State Fair. Then you have Scott moving up to eleven percent. Brahmaswamy, who's stronger in New Hampshire than he is in Iowa, is at five. Mike Pence at three and just qualify for the debate. I think his ticket's going to be Democrats giving him donations because he's taken on Trump, and then Christie at 3%.

So that's where we're at right now. In terms of. Donors in Iowa that have given over two hundred dollars, it's interesting. That is Trump with 117. Haley with twenty five, DeSantis with seventeen, and Pence with seven.

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Brian. In Kill Mead. All right, boy, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmeat Show.

So glad you're here. Busy hour. Shatter Bream standing by. Howie Kurtz bringing us inside the different ways people are covering the stories that matter most as it revolves around the former president and the current president. It is just astounding.

It's getting more separate each and every day. It's all about Iowa this weekend. I know. The caucus is five months away. The debate two weeks away.

But for the most part, in Iowa, they're going to make some gains now. It looks like there's only one candidate on the march in Iowa, and it's Tim Scott.

So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Iran will not be receiving any sanctions relief. And in any instance where we would engage in such efforts to bring Americans home to Vermont. Iran's own funds.

would be used Anthony Blinken, a foreign policy I just can't support. It looks like we're getting five Iranian Americans back, arrested for no reason, but now they're going to be free shortly for six billion dollars, unfrozen from their South Korean accounts. We really don't believe they're not going to use that money for terror? I don't. Number two.

Crooked Joe now wants the thug prosecutor, this deranged guy, to file a court order taking away my First Amendment rights so that I can't speak.

So listen to this. We don't want you to speak about the case. Right, he will. Trump trouble. Fight for the trial dates begins in earnest today.

No question of the former president's problems will be a burden on his quest to become president again. We're going to look at the state of the race so far today. Number. You definitely have made a case that his son Hunter Have trafficked on that connection to the then vice president, now president, but I haven't yet seen any evidence that the president did anything wrong. Really?

Really? So far, just squint hard and really think about it, Jake. Everything but a Joe Biden deposit slip, influence peddling while in office. That's where the James Comer investigation is. And now he wants to hear from the Biden family.

Soon we will find out how much and these multi-million dollar deals took place. Why they didn't pay taxes and where's that money today? With me right now, according to reports, is Shannon Bream, getting set to host Fox News Sunday and relay to us, her guests. But, Shannon, we do have some news regarding the former President of the United States. A federal judge is assigned to the Trump twenty twenty election case has sided with Trump's defense attorneys on loosening a protective order on evidence in this case, allowing him to a degree to talk to people around it and the case specifically because he's a public figure.

Yeah, I mean, there are all kinds of fast and furious details coming in from the courtroom. But what the protective order that the DOJ wanted was any evidence they turned over, they didn't want the Trump team or him to be able to use it. They cite, you know, public media, you know, social media posts and that kind of stuff. But Trump's team was arguing: okay, for sensitive materials, let's just limit it to sensitive materials that we agree we won't turn over. And the judge said, okay, I can go for that.

So she's not saying that the Trump team has to block any use of evidence that he can't talk about anything. But what the judge just did was agree that sensitive materials will include things like witness interviews, it sounds like, at the just from the grand jury.

So what she's saying is you can't turn over things that would endanger a witness or intimidate a witness. But if it's more broadly, you know, non-sensitive evidence that we turn over to you, then it sounds like the former president will be able to talk about that stuff. What's the ruling as you know it? With the president and his attorney, like Ed Corcoran, who's already a witness against his client? What is the ruling with Nada, who is actually up for his own criminal trial?

They said, don't talk about the case. Jason Williams, excuse me, Jason Miller, as well as. Boris Epstein, all these people have been mentioned. You shouldn't talk about the case. I mean, it's very tough.

How do you do that? Yeah, it's tricky. But what this judge has said is you can't talk about the case with other potential witnesses in the case unless there's a lawyer present.

So, yeah, how much of his inner circle is considered a witness in the case? All these unindicted co-conspirators that most of us have been able to put together the puzzle pieces and figure out who these people are. These are people that are in his daily orbit. Like you said, like Walt Nauta and other people who are with him all the time. You know, so the judge is allowing them to have conversations, but they can't talk about this case specifically unless there's a lawyer there.

The good thing for President Trump and for his team is that so far nobody's talking about a gag order because if that were the case, he couldn't discuss this at all, which you know, every rally he has, every statement, every presser, everything he does is built around the fact that these indictments are a witch hunt and that he is standing between the government and Trump supporters.

So it would be really difficult. If they said, no, gag order, you can't talk about this at all. It sounds like the judge here is willing to be reasonable, is willing to hear from both sides, and is sort of splitting this down the middle. Shannon, what about this January 2nd start date that the prosecution wants, that Jack Smith wants? When are we going to hear about that, and what is the argument against it?

My not being a lawyer, but I hear two to three years on average, he usually takes to get a case like that ready. This guy's got two others. Yeah, he's got multiple, and who knows next week he may get another one out of Georgia. But what they, when it comes to as far as the campaign, the judge said today, I'm not going to take a political campaign into consideration with any of these decisions that I'm making. We saw the Florida judge, when they brought up the campaign, said a lot of important people with big jobs get indicted by the feds, and guess what?

They have to show up for trial.

So these judges don't seem to have a lot of tolerance for slowing things down, but I think Trump's team will have a good argument about January. Campaign aside, that is very quick. And they're saying we need to see the evidence so we even know how long we need to prep for trial, how many weeks the trial should take. January 6th would put it so that, you know, if you've got a four to six week trial, you're missing the Iowa caucuses, South Carolina, New Hampshire, Nevada, all of those early states.

So I don't think that their best argument is, oh, he's running for president because this judge doesn't seem to care. I think the better argument that we probably should. Probably should, Shannon. Don't you think she should?

Well, she's not going to. But I think that, you know, based on what she said this morning, I'm not going to factor that in. The better argument for them is this is. A massive trial. It is historically important.

We haven't seen the evidence. We're going to need more time. You know, it's amazing to me, it's really one person.

So you're saying that, so, okay, this judge says I agree or disagree. The other side has nowhere to go? No, they can always appeal. I mean, and a lot of things get wrapped up in appeals pretrial, and that is going to delay things, too. I mean, if they say, all right, we're going over your head to the next step in this case would be the D.C.

Circuit. If they don't like what they get there, they can try to go to the U.S. Supreme Court. There's been some discussion that they might skip a step and just try to go straight to the Supreme Court on some of these rulings if they don't come down well for them, the Trump team.

So, yeah, there's a real likelihood the Supreme Court gets involved in this thing sooner rather than later. And if he wins, of course, it all seems to basically all go away.

So what about the fact that does it matter that the President calls Jack Smith and others deranged and have negative nicknames for him? Is that going to hurt him?

Well, the judge did note today she's aware of the social media postings.

So she is aware of what he's saying. And it sounds like she's trying to filter that out. It's noise, it's what he does. And she says he absolutely has a First Amendment right to his free speech, but it's not like with any of us, it's not without some limits. And she said in this case, It's about the fact that I've got to have an orderly trial and an orderly proceeding and move things forward, but I fully recognize he's got a First Amendment right to say whatever he wants.

So he can call people deranged. He can say she should be recused. He can say whatever he wants. What really matters is what happens in the courtroom.

So his attorneys are worried that this protective order is going to be kind of setting a trap for him to get tangled up in contempt charges because this judge will call him back into court if she feels like he's violating the order.

So here is Trump yesterday. Tell me what you think of this, Cut 13. How can my corrupt political opponent, crooked Joe Biden, put me on trial during an election campaign that I'm winning by a lot, but forcing me nevertheless to spend time and money away from the campaign trail in order to fight bogus made-up accusations and charges? That's what they're doing. I'm sorry, I won't be able to go to Iowa today.

I won't be able to go to New Hampshire today because I'm sitting in a courtroom on bullsh ⁇ What do you think?

Well, like I said, try that argument with these different judges. The one in Florida, who everybody argues is, you know, was appointed by him, is going to be more empathetic to him, has had rulings that are good for him in the past. She is one of the ones who said, I can't factor in that he's running for president. We got to just move on. His team is going to argue, though, you can't ignore that.

This is of historic significance. The Justice Department is an arm of the executive branch that is backing President Biden, who is running against this guy, probably in a head-to-head rematch.

So they're going to make the argument over and over again that there are political issues here, but whether these judges will buy it That's a big question. I mean, they're going to say, you know, of course, innocent in this country unless you're proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. But whether that should be fast-tracked into a five or six-month trial, that thing sounds quick to those of us who have been involved with trials in the past. Do you believe when people say that Jack Smith could be trying the January 6th case in four to six weeks? I think once he gets going, I think that's possible.

It's interesting in court today, too, that the DOJ lawyer who's in there arguing about this protective order says the January 6th committee turned more things over to them that weren't even seen publicly.

So they've got a bunch of stuff that Trump's team is going to say, all right, we can't get ready for a trial if we haven't even seen this stuff.

So again, I think that the January 2nd ask date to start this trial is probably not going to hold.

So we'll see in the order in which it's out there anyway. But you know, January 2nd, right near January 6th in Washington, D.C., the city where it happened in a court where in a district where he got 5% of the vote, it seems to be ripe for it to move on.

So we don't know if Georgia's next. I noticed that. Dan Abrams came out, ABC contributor, legal analyst, said there's no reason for Georgia to file this suit. It's already been filed in a different way for January 6th, so they shouldn't file it. He got blowback from it, but do you agree with that?

Well, I mean, you could argue that, but George is going to say we've got our own, whether it's racketeering laws, we've got other things down here that are very specific involving, you know, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, the phone call, all of that kind of stuff. I can't imagine that a state prosecutor like Fannie Willis, who people say, you know, wants to make a name for herself, wants to come down as, you know, tough on the former president and, you know, alleged election interference, all those kinds of things. I don't know that she'll be able to resist. I mean, you look at the Fulton County Courthouse that is now barricaded and surrounded with protective measures. And I'm thinking back: listen, you've got to be prepared for anything, but over the last couple of years, it hasn't been MAGA people burning down courthouses.

So, you know, there's the optics of it too, which make me think she's not going to miss the opportunity to also say, I've got, you know, state violations here, and I've got my own indictment, and we're going to do that one as well.

So here is Pred, the former president, kissing up to Fannie Willis, CUD 14. And I probably have another one. They say there's a young woman. A young racist in Atlanta, say racist. And they say, I guess they say that She was after a certain gang and she ended up having an affair with the head of the gang or a gang member.

And this is a person that wants to indict me. She's got a lot of problems, but she wants to indict me to try and run for some other office.

So do you think the sweet dog will work? That does not go down well with the prosecutor who's holding your fate in their hands. Remember, he can, if he gets elected and convicted on any of these things, he can pardon himself, but not on state charges.

So you've got state charges in March, the case out of New York that he's going to face. And if Georgia comes up with something, he's got that as well. I wouldn't antagonize the prosecutor in the place where I can't even protect myself, even if I did win. You know, it would be crazy to think that he gets off on the federal charges or he's convicted, elected, pardons himself, and he gets stuck on a state charge. I don't know that I would throw gasoline on that fire, but he loves the fight.

I haven't picked that up. But the other thing would be, can the governor pardon him? Can Governor Kemp pardon him? Yeah, that becomes part of the conversation too. Because in New York, obviously, Governor Hochul is not going to pardon him, but could Governor Kemp?

I mean, there are conversations there. Think about how nasty things have gotten between those two at times. Um, you know, but all is fair and love and politics, right?

So I want you to hear just a little bit about what's going on. As you know, this Hunter Biden investigation is getting extremely intriguing. And as Jonathan Turley says, you're not going to see a big deposit slit from Joe Biden say, well, into my past book savings account. It's going to be different ways in which the family would have benefited. About eight have already received money from Rosemont Seneca, and we're supposed to believe the president, who parachuted in 10 to 20 times over the last 10 years, according to Devin Archer, had nothing to do with it.

Still, people are bending over backwards, bending over backwards to make sure this doesn't link back to, not everybody, link back to the current president. Listen to Jake Tapper. Uh cut one. You definitely have made a case that the people who are around President Biden, in terms of the lobbyists and his son Hunter. have trafficked on that connection to The then vice president, now president.

But I haven't yet seen any evidence that the President did anything wrong. Can you do both things? Can you traffic using influence, using allowing your family to benefit, and honestly follow up with saying the President did nothing wrong?

Well, listen, of course the left is going to, this man is running for reelection. He is our current president, and they're going to say, rightfully, there isn't a deposit with his name on the deposit slip. There's no word of him being party to one of these contracts or him negotiating saying, oh, I get such and so percentage. I mean, if you don't have that, it's going to be really tough to try to bring impeachment or convince other people, even some Republicans, that it's worth going down this stretch. On the other hand, you're going to have plenty of folks saying Comer says more bank records are coming, more is coming down the pike.

It begs a question about that FD 1023 form from the FBI, where there are allegations, unverified at this point, that there are recordings that involve Hunter Biden or Joe Biden having conversations about some of these deals. If they exist, if they are legitimate, that would be very interesting to hear. What were the conversations that actually involved then Vice President Biden? I think everybody wants to know the answer to that question.

So is anybody investigating that 1023, you know, U.S. Attorney Weiss out of Delaware has said with respect to Hunter, yes, there are ongoing investigations. But we remember when we talked to the IRS whistleblowers that were investigating Hunter's finances and his tax violations, they never saw the ten twenty-three. How could they investigate it if they never even saw it? Right, real quick, d do you believe uh Uh Do you believe in the big picture abortion will still be the backbreaker it was for Republicans as it was in 2022?

It's very tricky for them, and a lot of states are saying, let's get it onto the ballot so it drives out Democrat turnout for Biden and for all the other federal and state races out there. But there's some consternation within the Democratic Party.

Some who say, be careful where you try this. They worry, because in Florida, there's apparently a move to try to get an abortion measure on the ballot. They think that's actually going to bring out pro-lifers in a very red state like that. Very interesting. Shannon Bream, who's on this weekend?

Adam Smith, Mike McCall, C.C. Winan. We'll see you Sunday. Gonna be great. Thanks so much.

Bye. She is Shannon Bream. I am Brian Kilmey. And you're next: 1-866-408-7669. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, we're back. I got this email from Luis Lunetta. What a piece of garbage that. That man is, meaning the president, all he does is cry and look for another tax dollar to solve the problem.

Excuse me, the mayor he's talking about. All he does is cry and look for my tax dollars to solve his problems. These elected officials who created these problems, they're Sanctuary City. You made your bed, now sleep in it. Alex, you're also in New York.

What's on your mind? Yeah, and by the way, about the mayor, yesterday you mentioned that he's pretty proud of the fact that the nightclubs are doing well here in New York. Yeah, and so I think that's be spending a lot of time there and he's spending a lot of money on the nightclubs where he goes.

So I think we got to look at his paycheck that he's making from being mayor and kind of cut that in three and only give him a third of it because we can't have him spending the nights in the nightclub when he's not doing his job. You know, he ran on fighting crime and then he came in and said he had no plan. He went to the border, invited the illegal immigrants in here, and now he has no plan for how to deal with them. He's a real mayor name only, I think, is a moron totally. But uh I love the conversation you just had with you played with Jordan Peterson.

Kids that are growing up, we gotta set them up for the real world. And sadly, what we're seeing, the real world is changing because it used to be if life gives you lemons, live with it. And then as we modernize, we said make lemonade out of it.

Nowadays we're saying if you have if you're a victim, go to your local shop, steal $900 worth of stuff, and get away with it.

So it seems like we're really helping the victims and we're being kind to them. But in the past, people are jumping in. I hear you, Alex. Got you used to it. Life's not easy.

Get over it. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Joe. How can my corrupt political opponent, crooked Joe Biden, put me on trial during an election campaign that I'm winning by a lot, but forcing me nevertheless to spend time and money away from the campaign trail in order to fight bogus, made-up accusations and charges? That's what they're doing.

I'm sorry, I won't be able to go to Iowa today. I won't be able to go to New Hampshire today because I'm sitting in a courtroom on bullshit. So that is some of the comments the President's made, very direct, very passionate. Howie Kurtz is with us now to talk about what's at stake, because this is unplowed ground. Because the way the media is covering both campaigns is fascinating and disturbing in my view.

And the way with Tron Trump's dealing with, where you have a guy winning at the same time, Looking, he's at three Titanic, at least two. Big cases against him. And it's all coming straight down the pike. And today, we understand January the bids will begin to. Be presented where the prosecution wants this thing to start on January 2nd, and the defense says it's way too quick.

with me right now is Howie Kurtz. You know, he's getting set to host his show this weekend, but I'm sure this will be all over it. Howie, welcome back. Thanks, Brian. Yeah, host of MediaBuzz.

Howie, first off, you think that that was an example of the president being nervous?

Well, irritated, agitated. I've known Donald Trump for 35 years, and even when he's in trouble, you might read a story.

Sources say he's angry or frustrated, but you know, he presents this bravado mixed with humor. In that clip you just played, he seemed to me to be seriously annoyed. Like for the first time, it was dawning on him that these multiple trials were going to prevent him from going out and campaigning in Iowa and in New Hampshire and other states. It is a practical problem. Other people have made that observation.

But he seemed a little rattled to me. And again, having known him a long time, Uh I thought he was running a show.

Well, look, he's going to Washington, D.C., where you are, and he's going to be in front of a judge that's known as the Punisher by the severe sentences she's given to January 6th. People, they're saying Jack Smith's saying he's behind the whole thing, so you've got to figure things are stacked against him. What's explained to me is if he has this trial and it goes four to five weeks and he loses, even if he eventually wins on appeal temporarily, he goes to jail. Can you imagine this? It is hard to imagine.

There's so many things that are unprecedented about this campaign. I mean, to me, the campaign is the trials now. They get so much coverage 24 hours a day. Certainly, you know, we all have to be sort of lawyers and remember, well, which trial are we talking about? Is it classified documents?

Is it January 6th? Is it the piece of junk that Alvin Bragg dug up in Manhattan? Nevertheless, it's all time consuming. And also, you talked about the coverage of two different campaigns. Joe Biden is hardly getting any coverage at all.

I mean, you almost forget he's president. He's almost been wiped off the media radar as everything seems to be Trump, Trump, Trump.

Now, Trump likes being the center of attention. He likes being talked about. That's why he's doing the maybe I'll go to the debate. Maybe I won't go to the debate. You know, he likes to suck up all the oxygen.

But the consequences here, as you say, what if he loses one of these trials? Even if he wins, it is going to take an enormous amount of money, legal resources, and time. which is the most precious thing a candidate has. And so I don't blame him. I'd be annoyed too.

So it's fascinating. Let's pivot over to Joe Biden.

So he's taken, sat down with the weather channel, and before that, it was early July before he did an interview before that. And the weather channel was upset. He wasn't more to the left or more green-oriented. It was nuts. And then you saw Peter Ducey come back from break, be behind bike racks, and be waved over and asked that question of: you know, you said you were not involved in your son's business dealings, but you were there on a speakerphone.

And he said, he goes, Well, you know what? Let's hear the question again. Uh let's hear the uh the Peter Doocy question again. Yeah, I want you to hear this because I think it sets up the big story this he does not have to answer any tough questions where Trump will sit down with anyone at any time including a 45 minute to one hour town hall.

So Peter Ducey is coming to an event. He's sitting behind bike racks and it looks as though he's going to be stopped from asking a question at which time the president puts his hand up and says come on over listen to this. There's this testimony now where one of your son's former business associates is claiming that you were on speakerphone a lot with them talking business. Is that what? I've never talked business in anybody.

And I know you'd have a lousy question.

Well, what do you, it's why is that a lousy question? Thank you. Because it's not true. Does that suffice for you, Howie?

Well, first of all, the answer doesn't, and Peter didn't have a chance after that to follow up. Secondly, Joe Biden seems to act as if. The mere act, I mean, look, there's a lot going on. I'm sure you've talked about it day after day on the show here with Hunter Biden, with his plea bargain blowing up, with the ex-business partner who said, No, I don't know that Joe Biden got any money, but I do know that the family got, you know, millions and millions of dollars. And, you know, Joe Biden knows how it works.

He doesn't have to talk business to these people. He just has to get on the phone. And then Hunter says, Look, I can get the VP on the phone, he was the vice president at the time, anytime.

So, you know, Biden has got to get more realistic about this. He's going to be questioned about it. And I thought Peter asked the question in a respectful manner. Manner, going back to the weather channel, Biden actually said, Well, I had to this reporter who apparently doesn't know that much about climate, I have declared a national climate emergency. But she did have the instinct to say, to follow up, oh, you have?

And he said, well, practically speaking, well, no, he hasn't. It's an entirely different thing. He spent a lot of money on climate. He can brag about that. But he has not declared a national emergency.

So after that exchange and him literally turning around and walking away, here's what Martha asked Admiral Kirby. The President said, I never talked business to anybody. But Devin Archer testified that the point of putting the phone, the speakerphone, down at those meetings, which is what Peter was asking about, was just to demonstrate access, that Hunter had access to the then Vice President and to sell the Biden brand.

So what do you say about that, John? And when will the President actually answer some of these questions to put some of this to rest himself? Oh my goodness, Martha. I mean he just did with Peter. I mean he's the one who called Peter over and had Peter, you know, risk life and limb cutting across that barrier.

I mean he specifically called Peter over. And he you know, look, he knows Peter. He knows Peter's not going to ask some softball question about you know about how his vacation was. He he knows who Peter is and he answered that question.

So He actually believes that he could spin his way out. The guy answers one question in two months. He asked it, and that should be enough? I like John Kirby, but that was not the best spin. You know, not only did he answer one question, but he came back and said it was a lousy question, as if Peter were coming out of left field with something that nobody would have been expecting.

There's been so much coverage of the president's son. I understand it's an uncomfortable position for him. Hunter Biden has used the family name to engage in buckwhecking around the world. And yeah, when you can get the VP on the phone, that's in the coin of the realm here in Washington. That shows you're an important person, you have access to important people.

He doesn't have to sit around and discuss the details with investors and potential investors.

So I think Kirby was playing a weak hand there. Howie, you're not going to see a deposit slip with Joe Biden's name on it. The product, as Peter Schweitzer said yesterday, that no one's been able to answer around in the Howie in the Joe Biden orbit is what is the product that Hunter Biden was selling, that Devin Archer was a part of? That Eric Sherwin was controlling the finances for. The product is influence.

There's only one person with influence, and there's only one person on a speakerphone or in person with influence, and that is Joe Biden. He can't possibly think he's going to get away with that.

So I want you to hear an exchange with James Comer and Jake Tapper. Cut to. What did the President do wrong, though?

Well, remember, when we started this investigation at the end of January, that's when I got subpoena virtual, the last week of January. The narrative was the laptop was Russian disinformation. Joe Biden's family never received money from China. Joe Biden's family never received any of this money while he was vice president. And Joe Biden never communicated with any of the people that sent his family this money.

All four of those things have been proven false.

So our investigation's already turned up a lot of information.

Now, I think even though there may not be any curiosity by my friends at CNN, I think there's curiosity by a majority of Americans. Wait a minute. You're telling me that you're not going to be able to do it. I'm very curious about it, sir. I'm very curious about it.

That's why I'm reading your reports. That's why I have you on the show. So they're just they they were so willing to jump to conclusions on the craziest evidence with the Russia situation, but here they're on the cusp. All they have to do is walk through the threshold And they would even speculate about Joe Biden's role in the money that came in. And here's the bigger question: where is this money?

And if you're worried about some money that Hunter might have made, Burisma's not been declared, that and where is the money here? You talk about one hundred thousand dollars in taxes? That's what he's plea bargaining. What about the millions that was paid to Rosemont Seneca and that eight different Bidens benefited from? There's no question it's an unseemly spectacle for, not that this has never happened in history, for a president's relatives, not just Hunter, to be basically cashing in.

And there's this email in the investigation where Hunter Biden himself, it's about 10 years ago talking about a Chinese businessman, says he's not interested in me. He's interested in my last name. That is the way Washington works.

Now, I do think, Brian, Republicans have to be a little careful about overreaching because some of them have gone on and said, implied, insinuated that Joe Biden got a bunch of money out of this. That has not been proven. If it is proven, his campaign's over. But at the same time, a lot of this other stuff is coming out. I think the White House is moving the goalposts in terms of its denials.

What's interesting is keep your eyes on Eric Sherwin, who controlled the money and whose correspondence talked about pay this and pay that. And if Joe Biden's bills are being paid by Hunter, where's Hunter's income? And I just think the American people need to know that everything they were told in 2020 was wrong. The president Looked down the barrels of the camera and said, I know nothing about my son's overseas business dealings, yet he's golfing with one partner and meeting with another, a handwritten note that said, Sorry, I wasn't able to come to you. I was stuck talking to the president of China today.

So he clearly is comfortable not telling the truth, and we have evidence of it. And the Washington Post walked it back this week to their support of his untruths. Yeah, and a remarkable lack of interest by the mainstream media, most of them at least, in exactly what we're talking about. I mean, can you imagine Republican President, son? I mean, we went through some of this with the Trump family.

I just think even if you're going to be skeptical about it, look into it, dig into it. I mean, it's gotten almost no coverage, maybe because they're all busy covering all the Trump litigation. Crazy. It's like two different worlds. We'll see if they actually collide.

Howie, who are you having on this weekend? Do you know? I got a whole bunch of people, including Gianna Caldwell, including, let's see. It'll come to me in a second, Brian. I got an all-star lineup.

We're going to talk about the Hunter thing. We're going to talk about the Trump litigation. And I'm really looking forward to it. I know. It's the biggest story.

The biggest story is Trump and Biden got it. But the subplot is how the media is covering it, and that's what Media Buzz is about. Howie, thanks so much. Great to talk to you, Brian. You got it.

Listen, when we come back, we'll wrap things up. Keep in mind, One Nation Saturday at 8 o'clock, amongst our great guests, we'll examine this and more, including Shoiken. The prosecutor that was fired by Joe Biden, who Joe Biden said, well, he was corrupt.

Well the Burisma wanted him fired because he was prosecuting Burisma. He spoke out. You're going to hear through a translator what he had to say. You listen to the brain, kill me, chill, don't move. Both sides, all opinions.

It's Brian Gilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, welcome back everyone. Just to wrap things up, just to give you an idea what's on One Nation this weekend.

A lot of times they say who these guests are great on the radio and try to bring them over. That's what I'm going to do with Jordan Peterson. You'll have a shot at that. You're going to hear from Zubi. I have a theory.

And maybe you don't agree with me. I think things are getting better. And here's why. And that's going to be the theme, at least in my open of the show. is because I believe if you see Some Republican congressmen Coming forward, And saying We're getting killed on immigration, and the President has led us down there.

He has to step up and show some leadership. When you see a DC councilman stand up and say We are in a war zone. Crime is so out of control. We need help. And think about how far we've come when the wall was racist.

You don't like Hispanic people, it doesn't work. It's something the Vikings did.

Now, people want protection at the border.

Now, people say, well, cops are the problem. Let's defund the police.

Now we need the police. We're in a war zone. Instead of empty or prisons, bail reform, people looking around and go, my life sucks. It is dangerous for my family and for me. He's getting better.

And on a side note, and follow me on this. When Mega Rapino Leads the rebels. And taking in knee In a international Soccer match and then later the World Cup and Olympics, taking an ep because she's embarrassed for our country with her purple hair and her chip on her shoulder. Of course, one of the top five players in the country. That's fine.

It has been for 10 years.

Okay, you're a great athlete, great dedication. Doesn't mean I like your attitude. And when she was in the Canyon of Heroes after winning the World Cup last time out, second one, the mouth that she showed, the cursing when she knew there were eight and ten-year-olds in there who looked up to her, I thought, what is this? Is she drunk? Is she out of control?

I've watched all the Yankees, Giants, Mets, every Jet not Jets, Giant you know, go down to the County of Heroes. Astronauts, nobody curses. Mega Rapino does.

Well, this time going for three straight World Cups, we watched a team totally disjointed, arrogant, indifferent in all three games after qualifying barely, taking selfies with the other team and with fans to the point where Collie Lloyd calls them out, and then they blow it in the first round, earliest exit ever, one of the biggest disappointments in sports, even though it hurts Fox sports. I have never in my life seen more people say about an American national team, glad they're done. Mega Rapino over the top on a PK, it happens. Missing sitters in real time, it happens. But if you're a great arrogant player with a swagger and could say you're a world champion and the country's not living up to what your standard is, and then you do those things, It's amazing how quick the worm turns.

And then you look at the cancel culture. With that hip-hop star who came out and said, Yeah, I have five kids in. He has five kids. He's got three boys. And if one of my sons walked up to me and said, I want to be a girl, I'd say, no.

That I'm not into that. I can't believe we'd do that. The publicist says, Oh my god, that's terrible. You said that we're going to change it. And then he stepped forward again and says, No, I'm not changing my mind.

What I said, I said, if you don't want to follow me, don't follow me. If I insulted you too bad, as a parent, I don't believe a seven-year-old should be picking their gender, which we all know is right. But all these things are changing. I feel like people are sobering up and be able to go back to their instincts. and how they were brought up.

And that's what I'm going to bring up in my open today. I think things are changing, and it's time to stand up. If you have done things right. And you feel as though you're a parent that has these certain beliefs, you shouldn't knuck onto and worry about it anymore. You should stand up.

You don't like your school. You don't like what they're saying. You don't like these books in there. Stand up and say something. You know, and I think You know, you you don't want your daughter getting dressed in the locker room with a with a male that w is transitioning to be a Uh female.

Say something. Be more Riley gains. The Megan Rapino. And that's why I think that's why I'm going to build on that theme today. And we're also going to have a chance to talk to Jamie Lissow.

One of the underreported stories in my life is my great dog Willow has just won but has destroyed something valuable in all of our lives, whether it's eating a hat, eating a historic ornament in our family, stealing the toilet paper or stealing one of the The stuffed animals. I'm going to compare that to what Jamie Lissow is also experiencing with his puppy. It's going to be a hard-hitting interview. You only get there. And then we're also going to talk about.

What's going on with the Hunter investigation, where it could be heading, if you follow the leads that we're getting and how it all relates to the war in Ukraine, sadly. The war is the right thing to do, but the President has sullied the mission because of his dubious links to that country. You listen to Brian Kill Me Show. Thanks so much. Remember, BrianKillMe.com.

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