Trump's 3rd indictment fueling huge lead in 2024

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Running Dooming Show.

So glad you're here this hour. The great Admiral James Charvidas, the 16th Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, will be with us in a matter of moments. And Rachel Campo Stuffy at the bottom of the hour.

So much to go over, so much to go through. We just found out the jobs numbers, a little disappointing. It was supposed to be 209 down to 187. Down 40%. They had the revised down the last two months, 40,000 jobs.

They predicted 209.

So not feeling great about the economy.

So far, 37% of you approve of the economy for the campaign trail. Tim Scott's going to be out there today. He's going to be in Arizona showing how long he wants to go, Iowa for Aron DeSantis. The president of the United States is going to be, the former president of the United States is going to be in Alabama. The president is actually on vacation for 10 days.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Today we got additional evidence of Bidenomics is working. All of this is part of our blueprint together for what America can be.

Now with Bidenomics in action and some of our investments playing out, we are starting to see some results. There you go. The Biden administration insisting Bidenomics is working. The problem, even the Vice President of the United States, says most people living paycheck to paycheck and a $450 catastrophe in their life would actually destroy them. Joe might be bragging about Bidenomics.

The polls show it is not going well. What is out there to change the perception from the numbers will separate the fact from the fiction. Number two. This is a very sad day for America. This is a persecution of a political opponent.

So if you can't beat him, you persecute him or you prosecute him. Yeah, the drama yesterday, strike three, but far from out, a third indictment for Trump. The details of the big day, the charges, his legal situation, his schedule, and how it affects the field. We'll talk about it all. Number one.

Because, as Archer explains, the business of Washington is access. And if you're the son of the vice president, you have the highest access. And the business was being the guy who knows people, the guy who, if your clients have a problem, they know the right person to refer to. Archer on target as the Biden buddy confirms so much long suspected about the Hunter Biden business and how it really has Joe at the center with his influence. We have Joe's emerging role as VP and how it brought them all millions and might very well be affecting our national foreign policy.

And by the way, you can always get the show, BrianKilmeatShow.com on our podcast. With me right now, before he goes about his busy day and intense weekend, Admiral James Travitas also might decide in the balance of who the next president is. What's going to happen in Ukraine? Admiral, great to have you again, best-selling author as well. Admiral, I don't think I have to tell you that something's changed since the last time we spoke.

It looks like Ukraine is intent on putting some of the pain into Russia proper. Hitting Moscow with some drones and now hitting the Black Sea and the Crimea area with some more significant. Hugely. And I'll give you a quick one. And you can flip on any of the T V channels and you'll see a picture of a Ukrainian sea drone on the surface of the ocean tracking like a shark at a big Russian warship.

Here's the punchline, Brian. That warship is not at sea. It's not in a Ukrainian port. It's in a Russian port in the Russian homeland, a place called Novro Rosisk, as you said, on the Black Sea. That's very significant.

That explosion looks like that ship is sinking. It's being now towed to a repair facility. And as you mentioned, the attacks on Moscow.

So these are not huge strikes, obviously, but it's significant and shows the Ukrainians are not just going to sit there and take punch after punch from Vladimir Putin. Uh so we on Medvedev sounds more radical than Vladimir Putin, the former President. What's significant about that? Medvedev, who used to be the President of Russia and was the Prime Minister at one point, has now moved even further, if you will, to the right, more nationalist than his potential opponent in an election. That would be Putin.

He's talking very tough, and most recently, Brian, he made noises about using nuclear weapons. Even Putin has kind of fallen away from that.

So Medvedev is trying to portray himself as the ultra Utter Russian nationalist, whether that's to line up for a political run at some point or simply to be a cat's paw, if you will, for Putin saying things that Putin doesn't want to say about, for example, the use of nuclear weapons. One to watch. He is well known in Russia and well liked by Putin's base there. Admiral, I'd have to tell you that it actually came to fruition when everyone thought it wasn't going to happen, but there's been space made at a military base in Belarus for the Wagner Group. I'm not sure where Przhogin is, but it looks like the Wagner Group is there to the point where the Poles are very concerned that they're going to start wreaking havoc on their border.

Should they be? If I were the polls, I would Shine a light on what's happening just across the border in Belarus. I would increase readiness on that far eastern border of Poland alongside Belarus. I would ensure that all of my troops were up on the balls of their feet. Having said all that, I don't see Belarus as a serious threat to Poland, certainly not to the NATO alliance.

You're correct, Brian, that the Wagner Group is doing a kind of a, I would call it a minor reconstitution, certainly a few thousand troops. Progozhin's last sighting was actually not in Belarus, it was up in St. Petersburg, Russia. He did a cameo at a conference with African leaders up there. Bottom line, Wagner Group is still not a force to be reckoned with at this point.

And I'm confident that the Poles need to be alert, but no, they shouldn't over-focus on Belarus. The alliance collectively. Needs to continue to focus on the real fight, and that's Ukraine against Russia. Right. Anything on the front lines is significant.

The word is the Russians did a good job in the winter digging in and mining areas, making it tough. Without air power, which we've not given, we're going to put together a syllabus, choose fighter pilots and begin to train them in the fall. What an embarrassment that is. As if there's not a handbook or loose leaf laying around of how to train a pilot who can already fly, by the way.

So, I mean, that must it's making you laugh now. It must have made you laugh when you heard it. Oh, and it just makes my head explode. We could have gotten these F-16s or at a minimum MiG-29s, which the Poles were willing to give the Ukrainians. They don't need a manual to fly a MiG-29.

That's what's in their Air Force. But the U.S. would not step up and provide F-16s to backfill the MiG-29s.

Now, as has been the case, we have been too incremental all along. But now, finally, we're getting to the point of doing this F-16 training. I'll put it this way, Brian. We're not going to have to train you to fly an F-16. We're going to take these Ukrainian fighter pilots, and they will very rapidly learn how to use that plane.

I think that is the potential game changer. We need to collectively be pushing the Alliance and this administration to get those F-16 aircraft in the hands of these Ukrainians. But don't you think this terrible leadership? You write books about leadership, but doesn't this terrible leadership to gradually give them some of the things they need when we're ready to give it, as opposed to give people what they need to win it. Our objective is the same, but what we're doing it what we're doing, I think, is terrible.

I think it's a failure in strategy. You can certainly tie that to leadership. But our strategic choices early on, if you go back a year and five months ago when this started, We made the choice to be incremental because we didn't want to escalate with Russia. Brian, you and I both know we are so far past that point, and we have been giving them air defenses, tanks, 155 millimeter artillery. We have provided it.

Now we've got to close the switch and give them the F-16s. It's time to move out. Admiral, what you have to be doing on a regular basis, explain to the American people why it matters. You have to sit there and talk about Russia being one of our top two geopolitical foes. Explain to them if they are allowed to take this, what has happened in the past.

And to the point where people are tired of hearing it, instead, we don't hear anything.

Now we have an election coming up, and Republicans are in a tough spot because sooner or later, the majority of Republican electorate is going to say, yeah, I'm done with this. You know, it's about 45% support it now. Even though it's the right move, I believe, for our national security and in our national interest, after all, look what's been exposed. Look at what we're learning from this conflict. And what we're seeing about what the Russians can and can't do, and what our weaponry can do, nobody ever explains it.

That is a huge part of this story, isn't it? It is. And we don't have to imagine what would happen if we just walked away at this point. All we have to do is look at history. And you go back less than one hundred years ago, we effectively said, ah, we don't want to get involved.

We're not going to be part of defending Poland or the Czech Republic or anything else against Nazi Germany.

Well, how did that work out? Eventually, we ended up in the war. We got pulled into it by the Japanese. Can repeat itself. And I would argue, if you want a pragmatic reason, these are the best defense dollars we've ever spent.

For a few billion dollars, which is a fair amount of money. And oh, by the way, the Europeans are putting in a significant amount as well. I challenge people to really look at the facts. But for a few billion, we are breaking the Russian armed forces as a fighting force. I think that's money well spent.

And you're right. The administration has got to do a better job explaining this to the American public. Right. They just basically say this is what I'm doing. And I just don't think that's the way it's done for non-military people that need to know why it matters on a regular basis.

I don't think many could answer that question, sadly. Admiral, I don't have to tell you that confidence in our military matters, and it's at almost a very low point. Only 60% of the American public have faith in our military. It's the lowest mark in 60 in 25 years. The last time this low was 1997.

How do you explain this? How do you reverse this? I think there are three things at work here, Brian. Number one, and it hurts me to have to say this, but the debacle of our withdrawal from Afghanistan, I think, played out across a million television screens, and I think that damaged confidence in the military. I think number two, in terms of the military, the divisions in our country are coming to the fore here.

All of our institutions are under criticism and declining. And oh, by the way, the Congress's approval rating compared to that 60% for the military. The Congress is in single digits, I think 8% last time I looked. The media, I think, around 9%. The Supreme Court is down to about 30%.

So we're not doing so badly. But number two, the downward pressure, the cynicism, the divisions, the arguments, I think that hurts us. And I think number three, Mm-hmm. America goes in cycles on overseas engagements. And I think our experiences in the forever wars, 20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think that soured the public on what the military does day to day.

So I'd say those are the three reasons at the heart of this. I think we can recover this, but it's going to take work on the part of the U.S. military to show the public that we are professional and capable. And I think, frankly, to conclude, what's going on in Ukraine ought to give people more confidence as we, again, break the back of the Russian armed forces without firing a shot ourselves. And it's an aggression, their aggression.

We're not choosing to do this. The whole world would love for this not to have happened. And the Russians, if they were given sodium penethal, would realize it's been a disaster for them.

So, lastly, Admiral, two Chinese sailors selling our secrets to the Chinese, Chinese Americans. They have family in China. People are writing me saying, look, They hold their families, you know, the safety and security of their families a lot of times at stake. Should we, in a very American constitutional way be looking at Chinese Americans in our military and wonder if they're compromised? I think we need to look at everybody.

More recently, a New Englander, white American up in New England gave secrets to his friends online. The point is, I don't think there's an ethnic piece to this that ought to cause us to focus on Chinese Americans. I think what we need to be doing is looking very broadly at who has access to what. And the part of China that we should be looking at here, Brian, is in China. We should be using our counterintelligence capability to track the Chinese to understand who they are approaching.

And when we see them approaching anyone, be they Chinese American, Indian American, Greek American, like I am, then we ought to swoop in and capture them. In this case, I think we've caught these two individuals who I hope go to jail for the rest of their lives. Caught it early on. They look like a couple of low-level Louis. Just over a minute left, but I want you to hear this exchange with Congressman Yemen and an official with the Biden administration.

When's the last time that the PRC asked for a high-level meeting with a senior U.S. government official?

Well, Congressman, the engagements that we've had, those have been reached by. uh mutual uh agreement We issued an invitation. It was up to them to tell us whether they wanted Scepter come, and they came, or they indicated they were like, Secretary, that's not, you know, I'm asking a different kind of question. You're giving me a different kind of answer.

So doesn't it seem to you like that may be looked at around the world as a sign of weakness that we are the junior partner? Respectfully, sir, I completely disagree. I don't. And I don't want to see what you do, Admiral, because we have begged for a meeting with the Secretary of State, the Treasury. We sent advisors over there.

They have done nothing but be hostile towards us. And I wonder what's your thought? Final seconds here. Yes, I agree that we need to approach this as not the junior partner. We are the senior partner in values, in military, in capability, in alliances.

And I would focus on the need for engagement, certainly. But ultimately, we need to be on the high road with China and not be subservient ever. Admiral, have a great weekend, Admiral. James Tervitis, appreciate it. You too, Brian.

Talk soon. Bye.

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And they feel like all the things he's getting indicted for, anyway, not only does it not work, but it kind of hardens. their position that he's being targeted. and that this is these are like the the actions of a banana republic. You take your political rival and you arrest him. And specifically you charge him with things that you're fing guilty of.

Like the the the documents, like the classified documents. Biden's guilty of the exact same issue. But there's no word on the investigation there. They're not even clearing them. We don't even know what's happening.

This guy, Robert Hurr, doing an investigation of documents in his garage, of documents in his house, documents of the University of Delaware, documents of the Biden Center, documents in his lawyer's office. What's going on with that? How long does it take to read documents? Got a huge staff, big budget. That is Joe Rogan.

I think that's significant because Joe Rogan's not a Trump guy. He voted, you know, he doesn't even want to interview him, but that could change, by the way.

So Rogan weighs in and says, This is the everyman attitude. We see the double standard here. Nobody thinks that Trump's a traditional person doing everything by the book ever in his life, period. But they see three, three indictments and a fourth one coming. And the last one doesn't even have conspiracy to form a plot to take apart.

They have no proof of any coordinating with the Proud Boys, Chuanon, or anybody else. And they say, really? This is all politics. For Joe Biden, they can't compete head to head with him anymore. Clearly, he lost his fastball, his change-up, and his knuckleball.

Very significant. Rogue's got a lot of followers. The talk show that's getting you talking. You're with Brian Kilmead. There's no evidence of that, but they're going to keep trying because that is the argument that they want to fuzzy the waters out there.

Muddy the waters, not fuzzy them, muddy the waters out there. That, by the way, is a tactic that Vladimir Putin and other authoritarian dictators use, but that's their strategic objective, to make it all seem the same. That is Gen Saki, who is looking at this Devin Archer interview and the transcript released and the revelations that have come forward and the things we now know. And is now saying this is Russian disinformation. Again, classic Russian information.

Rachel Campo-Suffy is here, co-host of Fox Your Friends Weekend and everything else all over the channel. Also, he's got a great podcast, co-host on Kitchen Table podcast. Rachel, great to see you. Great to see you too. Good morning.

I didn't think they would play the Russian disinformation campaign. I'm stunned to hear that because Jensaki's not dumb. No, she is not somebody that says, oh, give me my talking points. I think you give her that, right? No, no, absolutely.

That almost disappoints me. They have no shame. They have no shame. Um and by the way, the Biden family. Has no shame.

This should be so humiliating, the stuff that's coming out, and how low they're going, that they're actually using the death of Bo Biden as an excuse for why he made those 20 calls. Like, oh, did you see that MSNBC clip where some of these pundits are making excuses and saying, well, he didn't. He got on the phone because this was a difficult time. And maybe he should have told, you know, Hunter or No, why are you putting me on the phone with these people? But this was such a difficult time.

I'm like, and I'm like, No, what this actually tells me is that even as Bo is dying. They're still out there trying to make money. off of our country, by the way. Off of our country. It's treasonous greed.

It's not just. regular greed. It's treasonous greed. Because you could say one by one they're getting closer and closer.

Some people are saying what's taking Comer so long, it takes a while. You have to unwind all these international business accounts, these shell companies, and you have to understand what investment banking is internationally, which is an expertise. It's not just I'm going to go buy this house, I'm going to go invest in real estate. It is a complex situation. You're raising revenue investing places in exchange for influence and access.

And that's what Devin Archer basically said behind closed doors, and then he said it over to Tucker. I don't think it's as difficult as you think. I think it's difficult for Comer because you have an FBI and a DOJ that aren't doing their job. They don't want to do the listen, a forensic audit. They can do that in their sleep.

They were told, the IRS whistleblowers were told, if it says Joe Biden, don't go down that path. What the hell is that?

So they could easily do a forensic audit. The reason it's hard for Comer is not, I don't think, that it's international and that they have all these shell companies, by the way, in the names of some of their grandkids, you know, that's more family values from the Biden family. But it's that they're getting no help from the people in the government who should be helping to uncover this corruption.

So some of the guys, if you are interested in this, especially if you're moderate, undecided. And just just take your time. Even if you are vehemently anti-Trump, Instead of just saying, well, this is Russian disinformation or going by what Gen Tsaki says or what MSNBC leads with, just read the transcript and you make your own decision.

So Devin Archer told congressional investigators that Hunter Biden used VP Biden, his dad's defensive leverage to send the right signals to his foreign business partners while selling him as the brand that offered capabilities and reach. Capabilities and reach. 40 years in Washington, glad handing wherever you can, having friends from all different generations, getting things done for people, financially benefiting your family. That's what Devin Archer is saying that is happening. And then he expands on that.

And who told us this two years ago? Tony Bobolinski. Thank you. And he said two years ago, and he said, well, besides Fox. And the New York Post, no one's even asking me for an interview.

The FBI didn't! You know what he said at the end of the last Tucker interview? Yeah. Jake Tapper, give me a call. And I'm an Intel officer, Colonel, and the Intel officer.

I'm an NCAA-level Division I wrestler. I'm a very successful businessman. I don't have to work another day in my life. I got a great family. But I care about the country first.

Here's the situation. Nobody cares and he kinda knuckled under. And now we see Devin Archie going, Yeah, this is exactly what I'm doing and I'm actually going to jail for something else despicable, robbing other people and embezzling other people, including an Indian tribe, which how do you sleep at night? Yeah. No, I mean, these are all, you know, shady characters.

But by the way, with Bobolinski, it's not just that the media didn't follow up on him. I mean, he would have been, he said he was an amazing get for Fox to have on for that interview. It would have been an amazing get for any network to have him, and nobody wanted to have him on. But just as importantly, maybe more importantly, is our government didn't follow up. He asked, he said the FBI never called him.

He reached out to them. They didn't want to follow up on this.

So nobody wants, they don't want to uncover this because, and by the way, when you talk about Joe Biden, he put himself in char he got Ukraine was his portfolio. That was his portfolio. And we look at we're looking for all this proof. The proof is in that video where he said that he got the prosecutor fired or else he was going to withhold a billion dollars in aid to that country. I mean Well, you know the retort to that, right?

No. Stop Fox bringing that up because we all know other countries that this prosecutor was corrupt and we all wanted him out. I go, Really? Who else wanted him out?

So other countries didn't like him. But a lot of times you don't like aggressive prosecutors because they don't like what you're stopping them from doing.

So for him to sit there and say, I have a billion dollars, you're not going to get it unless you fire him, that is just on its face. He's on the Council of Foreign Relations bragging about something he has no right to brag about. You can't sit there with a billion dollars in your pocket and hold it over people's head and fire people for it. And then it's linked to burisma. And then we find out basically the burisma was able to sustain itself.

I'll paraphrase, according to Devin Archer, because of the Biden brand. They didn't want to collapse it for the investigator because it would have angered two people on the board and a man close to the White House, Joe Biden. And Devin Archer was one. And uh and Hunter Biden was the other. I recall a phone call that got President Joe Biden impeached because he was asking President Zelensky to look into the corruption of I'm sorry, President Trump made that call to Zelensky asking You know, is there corruption going on here?

And of course, then we had Alexander Vindemann, who was on the phone call, who we know leaked the call. And somehow this was turned into: oh, well, President Trump was threatening. You know, to give aid.

Well, we don't know that from the call, but we do know that from Joe Bi from Joe Biden's from Joe Biden's video the video of Joe Biden at this meeting where he said he was going to withhold it.

So he admitted to that. And by the way, had Zelensky gone and looked into this All of this corruption with the Biden family at that time, maybe we wouldn't have a Joe Biden as president. Maybe we wouldn't even have a Ukraine war because, as you know, under Joe Biden and his weakness, that's why we're here. That's why Russia made those moves. No question.

A couple of things you said, I think, saying that. Number one, you That is my topic for One Nation on Saturday. That is going to be my open. Because I don't want to get into ballots. I don't want to get into voting machines.

I don't want to get into drop boxes. Can't do it. I don't have the legal team. I don't know what happened in Philadelphia. I don't like this.

I don't like that. But that's not enough. I'm going to put that aside. As the American voter, undecided independents, moderates, whatever it is, you were still up for grabs. You knew everything about Trump.

You knew the good, the bad, the ugly about the pandemic, how he governed, what the Mueller Report did and didn't do. You made your opinion. But did you know everything about Joe Biden? And you didn't. And the reason is.

he lied with impunity and without conscience. And to the point where the Washington Post Glenn Kessler yesterday gave four Pinocchios to. Joe Biden, for saying you never knew anything about the President's, your son's business dealings and you never took part in any of the deals when we know you parachuted into at least 20 conversations, according to one business partner. And can you imagine if we knew this? Remember Joe Biden, October 2020, on the debate, cut three.

In retrospect, was anything about those relationships inappropriate or unethical? Nothing was unethical. Here's what the deal. My son has not made money. In terms of this thing about what are you talking about?

China. I have not had the only guy who made money from China is this guy. He's the only one. Nobody else has made money from China. Yeah, and in that debate, he also knew it.

And then, when you brought up earlier, you know, with Jen Saki, Russia disinformation, later in that. In that debate, he said that it was Russian disinformation, and 51 intelligence officers have said so. That was the excuse that he had. Of course, that was all planned by Anthony Blinken, who collected all those names so that. Joe Biden could have that specific Talking point because they knew this was going to come up in the debate.

So you talk about the lies, Brian. The lies were all coordinated, coordinated with big tech to suppress. The laptop information itself coordinated with very dishonest, again, I'll say it treasonous, because if you're lying like this, it's treasonous. People who, you know, the 51 intelligence officers who signed that letter knowing that. It was not Russian disinformation that that laptop with the FBI, who also knew the laptop was real.

There were so many people conspiring to lie and withhold that information. And Brian, including the Zuckerbergs in key cities, especially in Wisconsin, where you're not. Exactly. All of this happened. And Remember, 14% of Americans who were polled after the election said, I would not have voted at all.

Or voted for Joe Biden, had I known about the Hunter Biden laptop, that would have changed the election. That is election interference. That is. Yes. And That's Arizona, Georgia.

Wisconsin. I don't know if Michigan was out of reach. I forgot the exact number. But when you talk about a few thousands of key states, that's absolutely it because they were too hard. They were too tough to even poll.

We didn't know how it was going to go. And by the way, I'm from Wisconsin. Everyone in Wisconsin understands what happened with the Zuckerbucks in Wisconsin. They also do not believe for one second that Joe Biden got more votes than Barack Obama in Milwaukee. I'm sorry.

It's just weird. It's not just weird, it's impossible.

So they changed a lot of rules using COVID and that's what they did. And he did this by because of COVID, legitimate, he's old. He didn't have to campaign. In fact, Trump got people angry because he was campaigning. Before I digress, I just want to finish off this point.

Sure.

So, with politics, because you're a political family.

So let's say there's something that's you know, for example, John McCain was involved with a with um Was involved with somebody that did some shady business dealings. He goes, I made a mistake. I should have never been involved.

So, what happens is when you're in a difficult situation, you don't just say yes or no. You say, you know, when you're out of office and you do some deals to be able to give your family some money, I don't think anything was unethical as far as I could tell, but I felt good about these deals because it was never going to affect. That's how you explain away. Then you say, okay, that's his explanation. You don't look into the camera and say it never happened, never, knowing that there's a trail that's going to prove you blatantly wrong.

You leave some gray area.

Well, I said that there were international business deals and I wanted to make some money knowing that I wasn't going to be in office again. I never thought I was going to so then all of a sudden it's like, well, I got and your your fans and your supporters go, I have something to go with. But basically, you looked in the camera and lied. And the only thing your supporters can go with is ignoring the entire thing. Here's more of a blatant lie, cut four.

Did Barisma report $183,000 a month with no experience in energy? My son did nothing wrong at Bariza. I think he did. Mr. President.

He doesn't want to let me answer because he knows I have the truth. His position has been totally, thoroughly discredited. Trump did all the more you think about it, the more I listen to it, he actually did much better than I thought. Chris Wallace looks bad in retrospect. I went back and saw this.

He looks worse when you look back. You went to defend him so many times.

So many times. Chris Wallace was. Terrible in that interview, in that debate. But you know what? Back to your question: you know, he didn't leave the gray area.

I think. The arrogance of Joe Biden and also knowing the powerful forces he had in his pocket, the media, the intelligence, you know, you know, establishment, Barack Obama, you know, big tech. He had so many people covering for him. He felt confident. And you look at like some of the things he says, like nobody F's with the Bidens.

Or remember this phone call that he made, that Hunter Biden made to the Chinese chairman that he was talking to. You better send that money or else, blah, blah, blah. He's sitting right here. My dad is sitting right here. My dad is sitting right here.

And if you don't, I mean, that exchange alone, that text exchange that came out. really just shows you just how Untouchable, they think they are. And I think it comes from years of being in office, but also the culmination in that election where so many powerful forces wanted Trump out because Trump is such a threat to the establishment. And all of them were working to get this person, as you said, who was basically sitting in a basement elected. He knew he was untouchable.

And guess what happens? If Trump is stuck in a courtroom Guess who gets to sit in the White House and not do anything? Joe Biden. And suddenly he's like, Yeah, I could go campaign. What's the point?

Everybody's watching the trial. Yeah. I'm going to prove to people I need four more years. They're going to stay in the office like Eisenhower. I don't need to run for re-election.

Everyone's going to vote me in anyway. The only thing that would force him out is if Trump goes out there and starts getting 15,000, 20,000, 22,000, go in these major rallies, people start going around him, the economy's going south, Ukraine is a deadlock, all of a sudden a lot of these issues start bubbling up. But if he's stuck in court, say, listen, you want this guy that's fighting 78 charges, you want him to be president? That's part of the goal. Conversation supposedly leaked between Barack Obama and Joe Biden.

I guess President Obama came to the White House and had lunch with him. Yes, and I think that they are really stunned at the strength. Of Trump politically. I think they really thought that these indictments and this, you know. These legal troubles would separate the voter from the Republican voter base from Donald Trump.

But I think they've gone too far. I think people, it just keeps getting stronger and stronger for him because people are so disgusted by the injustice of it. A couple more minutes with Rachel Campo-Suffy. She's actually going to be on One Nation Saturday night at 8 o'clock. We're breaking her now, getting ready for eight hours of programming over the weekend.

She just realized it is going to be six, eight hours live television on Fox and Friends weekend. Back in a moment. Both sides, all opinions. It's Brian Killmeat. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin.

It's Brian Kilmead. Hi, we're back. Rachel Campo-Stuppy is here. Hey, Rachel, I thought it was very significant. We had Jordan Peterson on this week, and they said, Why do you think so many young men, especially black men, are leaning to the right and so many women are leaning to the left?

And he said, Joe Rogan. Yeah, I heard that. I heard that. I thought this is significant. After all these calls for Trump and everything like that.

He is now considering interviewing Trump, and he said this. about uh the way the American people feel, CUT twenty one. People that that love Trump, they feel like this is a witch hunt and they feel like all the things he's getting indicted for are b Anyway, not only does it not work, but it kind of hardens their position that he's being targeted and that this is, these are like the actions of a banana republic.

So, this is a guy who voted for Bernie Sanders and said, you know, I don't like Trump and I don't like a lot of things he did. Do you think that means anything more than just a successful podcaster?

Well, first of all, it's not just when you talk about Jordan Peterson's comments about men. Maybe leaning more right because of Joe Rogan. It's really the manosphere. There's a whole part of social media and podcasting that's filling this gap. For men that our culture has left, because our culture is telling men that it's bad to be a man, toxic masculine.

Yeah, be Dylan Mulvaney. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so there's a and also, I think there's a lot of fatherlessness. I think Jordan talked about that as well. There's a lot of fatherlessness, and there is a desire in a lot of young men How do I become a man?

And so I think people like Rogan, but also these other big figures in the manosphere, some more nefarious than others, are filling that gap. And young men are looking for something. That said, the reason Joe Rogan's having him on is because it's great ratings. Right. I think so.

He says considering now, by the way, a real man? Sean Duffy. And Brian Killmead. Yeah. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show.

Brian Kilmead.

So glad you're here. I'm at 48th and 6th in Midtown Manhattan. But I'm heard around the country, around the world. We have our sights firmly set on the rest of the country, not just New York City, which is overrun by illegal immigrants, crime, and poor leadership. The governor, one of the worst in history, totally over her head.

And a mayor who loves to talk, dress in nice suits, and work out and go out to eat, says stuff without thinking, has totally been abandoned by Washington, D.C. And Joe Biden, who he claims to be a Bidenite, well, Joe Biden has given you the Heisman. We'll discuss that. We also know locally the Suffolk County District Attorney will have a press conference today, evidently with the serial killer that was found in my town of Massapequa, New York. They found belts around one of the victims with the initials, and it could lead to the fourth victim and so much more.

So, we'll cover all that as well as. Talk to Brett Tolman about what took place yesterday, the President's legal hurdles and more. Ed Rollins is standing by, one of the best political consultants in the history of this country.

So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. Today we got additional evidence of Bidenomics is working. All of this is part of our blueprint together for what America can be.

Now with Bidenomics in action and some of our investments playing out, we are starting to see some results. Yeah, there we go. Bidenomics playing out. Tell it to the American people who give him a very low mark on the economy. We added just 187,000 jobs, lowest in about two years, lower than 209,000.

We'll discuss the American mood and why the president still wants to run his economy. Number two. This is a very sad day for America. This is a persecution of a political opponent.

So if you can't beat him, you persecute him or you prosecute him. Strike three, but far from out. A third indictment for Trump, the details for the third day and the big charges, his legal schedule now, how it affects the field, why he is stronger than ever, according to the polls. Even if his critics are astounded. Number one.

Because as Archer explains, the business of Washington is access. And if you're the son of the vice president, you have the highest access. And the business was being the guy who knows people, the guy who, if your clients have a problem, they know the right person to refer it to. Archer on target, as the Biden buddy confirmed, so much long suspected about the Hunter Biden business being all about Joe's influence. We have Joe's emerging roles as VP and how it brought them millions of dollars, much of which we do not know where it is, and how they might be affecting national foreign policy.

Ed Rollins is with us now, GOP consultant, former assistant to President Reagan, managed his reelection campaign. He's also a senior presidential fellow at Hofstra and a member of the Political Consultants Hall of Fame. And he's in my personal hall of fame. Ed, welcome back. Thank you.

It's nice to be with you. All right, pal. I'm doing great. How you feeling? I'm pretty good.

Pretty good. I'm an old man, but I'm still going strong. You are, because that's that boxing background. Ed, when you heard I know you've seen people like you could say, oh, I've seen it all, or it reminds me of. As you watched the president be indicted for a third time, You can honestly say, I believe you've never seen anything like this.

What about the response so far and what it means for the rest of the field? It is not, it's never happened like this before. No one has ever had to carry the burden that he has to carry. The legal the legal stuff alone is is is awesome and it's not finished yet. But the reality is the base is st holding strong.

People still Love him. I don't think he could be beat for for the for the nomination. And I think the key thing here is he has to fight on two fronts. One is he has to obviously. let his attorneys handle the legal stuff and go to court and provide his courageously as they can and as Effectively as they can.

At the same time, he's got a primary going. And I think to a certain extent, He's got to go out and have a have a talk about what he's accomplished. which has been lost for two years. And many accomplishments took place there, and the contrast between that and what Biden has done is awesome. and still stay on on sync.

Let me just say this about Donald Trump, though. He's like a lion. You think he hasn't cornered by a bunch of hyenas, he's going to tear them apart. The legal challenges are severe. There's no question about that.

I think the first thing I would do if I was s advising him or basically his chief of staff, I'd tell all the lawyers to shut up. that are out there are out there giving different views and His own lawyers. And you know, you don't win that battle. You win that battle in court. You know, they all want to be on T V, they all want to be on the radio, they all want to tell their stories.

And their stories are not what you do when you give your strategy away is the other side just comes back and counters it and and pounds away.

So my sense is shut the lawyers up. Stay inside and fix what you can do and go to court in a very difficult court environment. DC is not the best place for any Republican to. Tell me if you like this stance, Ed, Cut 12, Donald Trump yesterday. This is a persecution of a political opponent.

This was never supposed to happen in America. This is the persecution of the person that's leading by very, very substantial numbers in the Republican primary and leading Biden by a lot.

So if you can't beat them, you persecute them or you prosecute them. We can't let this happen in America. And he said his stance is, I'm fighting for them, but they're really coming for you. And I'm more than happy to fight for you. But just understand that they are coming for you.

So, your thought of that stance, and whether he believes it or not, I think it's very effective. I think it's very effective. First personally, he needs to go back to the root of all this. Nancy Pelosi made this happen. Nancy Pelosi, this would not have happened.

The Justice Department hadn't done a single thing for the last couple of years. Until she put this Scam hearing together. There wasn't, you know, the. What if she stacked it with Democrats and basically forced it through? She forced through the two impeachments.

And she forced through uh-huh. She hated Trump and she did everything she could to basically make sure that Trump. Trump would not be an affected person. Uh, and I think to a certain extent, that's what that's what he has to go after, he has to go hammer. hammer her and talk about those kinds of things.

You're not going to win the campaign again by talking about it over and over and over again. There's been 60 plus cases that have gone to court. You're not done well in court. What you've got to do is talk in terms of. The process that did him in was the Nancy Pelosi Democrat process.

Joe Biden is a very weak president. I think if he becomes the nominee, he'll be a very effective candidate and could win again. And that drives him all crazy. But you've got to basically have a strategy that works. And again, you can't have 12 employers every day going out and saying different things.

and basically getting all the media to stat to jump on them. and basically take apart their their challenges before they even get to court. Court is where the this challenge is. The campaign trail is where he's going to basically win the nomination. Ed Rollins, our guest.

Ed, no doubt about it. You set up a super PAC for Ron DeSantis, and you were quoted about a week ago saying he's not a good candidate. The problem is the candidate. I was surprised to hear you say that, but you are an expert in that area. I was impressed with DeSantis.

I look at his report, Cod. I couldn't believe what an effective he is, how smart he is. I don't know if he's, you know, I think he could be a potentially good president, but you saw something that makes you feel differently now. Why? I've seen hundreds of candidates over my lifetime, and it's it's it's sort of like guys that watch horses.

You know, you you can see a good horse when they can run, they can do certain things. DeSantis, I think, has not been able to tap into people He jumped into this race and obviously wasn't quite ready for it. He's not a national politician. I think he's got a good governor. That doesn't mean that you automatically have to be president.

I think there's several people in there that were good governors that are in this candidates. But to be but to take on Trump is a whole different different thing. And I just kept seeing him falter. You can't tap into the young people. uh and I think to a certain extent when you can't go to the Hamptons Which you and I both know what the happens is all about.

If you can't do fundraisers in the happiness because people won't show up. That tells you the support of the people. I didn't know that that that has happened. He he where people would show up in the Hamptons. I see them packed out.

I went to a Nassau County event and I saw almost everybody, every politician, show up at the Air Museum, Air and Space Museum. And then I saw them all meet him backstage and he walked out, and there was probably 500 people there.

Well, 500 people to fill that auditorium, but he could not basically do fun. His fundraising is, he was very fast, he got out very quick. And and but he but he's not made any progress. Uh his poll numbers have dropped dramatically. Uh he's got good people around him.

Uh there's some good campaign types, but I think it's him. And I think the reality is you're going to see him diminish as time goes on because now what happens is uh the other candidates are going to jump on him as opposed to jumping on Trump. It's amazing. If anyone thinks they're just going to jump on Trump and when Trump goes away, the Republicans get more of a fair deal. Forget it.

Steve the way they went after DeSantis.

Now they're calling him a racist, sexist, book banner, now pro-slavery. I mean, I can't believe some of the stuff they're pinning on him and the viciousness in which they're attacking him. And again, he's not winning. And in your case, Ed, you don't think he will. Here is DeSantis on a special report a couple of days ago.

Look, at the end of the day, you're looking at return on investment on everything. I set out the vision. If that vision is not realized, I make changes to be able to get us going forward. But I can tell you this: when you're on the ground in Iowa and New Hampshire, like we've been over the last six days, you know, those voters want to see you. And when we're able to go meet with them, talk about our success in Florida, talk about me being the only military veteran in the race, talk about our vision for America, we get folks to join the team.

And so this is a long process. You got to be on the ground.

So that was his explaining why he had to let so many people go and maybe overspent and had to cut some expenses. Your thoughts on his explanation?

Well, my thoughts just on that is controlling the money in any campaign is very important. It's probably the most important thing you can do. He had more money than Trump than anybody and he basically overspent And the web. a third of your staff and forty percent of your staff go Two weeks before you start your Iowa trip does not show sound management.

So, my sense is that's one more killing thing. You know, and I don't want to sit here and trash him. I want to basically talk about the guy who I think is going to be the nominee is Trump. What about Glenn Young? He's thinking about getting in.

He's thought about it. He's head-to-head in Virginia. He does beat Joe Biden. We know that he's extremely talented, smart, and likable. Does Ed Rollins think he could, there might be a lane for him to get in?

I don't think there are any lanes for anybody. I think he's a good governor. I think he ran a great campaign. Uh he's one of the new stars of our party. Um And I think it's all about the future.

Right now, this is Donald Trump's race. You're not going to move these people away from Trump, and the more he's persecuted from their perspective. the more they're going to stick by him. The sad part of all that, though, is you can't talk about the issues that are important to the country when you're basically out there arguing every single day about legal things. And I think to a certain extent, you know People don't know about the future, not the past.

And if the Trump strategy is basically just to redo the the last election, He'll still win the nomination, but it makes it harder to win the general.

So he's got to basically every day, and it's very complicated because of all the legal stuff, it's very complicated to do this. On three or four fronts on the legal side, and then still run a meaningful campaign to win. But I think to a certain extent the base of this party admires what he's done and they're going to stick with him. Ed Rollins, our guest, Ed. You know Joe Biden for a while, right?

So, Ed Rollins, we're finding out now more almost everything suspected about his business dealings, and logic would lead you to obviously he's playing a role with Hunter Biden's business.

Now, we have business partners coming out, backing up what Bobolinski said, that this guy's playing a major role with these different countries and possibly affecting policy. What's going to be the effect on the campaign? How do you feel as an American with these revelations now emerging and knowing that in the debates and in these conferences and the few interviews he gives, he looked right at you and lied about not knowing anything about Hunter Biden's business dealings, not playing a role, saying it has nothing to do with what he did in Ukraine? How do you feel about all this, and what does it mean for the election?

Well it appalls me, but I've I've watched it for forty years. For forty years Oh what is going on there? The senator from Delaware before he became the vice president, his brother was one of the biggest lobbyists. It's a small state, basically, a state that has a lot of capital. Uh a lot of banks to uh And and he's always he's always at least at least The way he's done it is sort of the way Mayor Daley used to do in Chicago.

Mayor Daly didn't take money. But everybody around them got the money and got the rewards. In my sense, is this the same way with Biden? Is it going to play a role? Is it going to play a role in this election?

So it should be a role. I'm not confident that the Justice Department is going to do anything about him. They may get his kid because this kid certainly has been a rogue character and deserves to be. uh imp imprisoned or certainly charged seriously and uh But what getting getting the President is harder than it is anything else. Understood.

We'll see what happens. But more and more, even like the Washington Post coming forward, giving him four Pinocchios to saying what he said about China, son making money there, knowing about the business deals, knowing that he's been in 20 meetings on speakerphone or in person. I've never seen anyone blatantly lie like that. Usually, you know, in politics, it's a gray area. You know what my son does, Impossible to keep up.

Some of these deals are complicated. I never thought I'd be back in public life. I went to private life. There would have been somewhere to go to bat for him. But he just looked down at the barrels of the camera and said, not true, not true, not true.

He's lying. And all of it's becoming true, true, true.

So that's not even being a good politician.

Well, the reality is he deserves he deserves to have his his life and his Is public life as private life exposed. it it's hard to do that because mainstream media obviously loves them. And the Democratic Party loves him because he's incumbent. They don't love him because he's a competent president. And I think the real question is can he function as a real serious president?

You know, he's obviously slept by the day. He falls asleep in meetings, he does all kinds of stuff. And he's, you know, he's. He's 80 years old. And some 80-year-old people can function effectively, some can't.

In my sense, on his particular case, day by day, he's kind of going by road, and his staff is running the Brett White House.

So I think the reality is it's a dead-even race today. And I mean, what intrigues everybody. is how can Trump, with all of his problems, can stay even with them and he is even with them. And a hidden symbols. If I gave you any candidate to give a run to Trump, who would you pick that's in the field right now?

Well, it wouldn't be but wouldn't be Biden. I mean, if uh you you mean a Democrat in the Republican field. If I c say pick a candidate and run him at Trump, who who would you pick and what would you do? I don't see anybody at this point in time that can beat him. You know, he's got this lock on the base.

You know, we've got some good candidates in there, but they're not going to go anywhere. They're not going to raise any money. You know, Mike Mike Pence is now done and finished. He he'll he'll he'll never never become anywhere that he won't be booed off the stage. And I think to a certain extent, Christie's tried it before.

Christie's going to get all the attention because he's going to attack Trump. But the reality is, he's not going to gain any vote support.

So I don't see anybody in this field that can do it. Ed Rollins, firmly believer in Donald Trump. But can he win the general? It's a bigger question. Ed, can't wait to have you back.

Have a great weekend. Anytime. Thank you. Bye-bye. Back in a moment.

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Okay, you're the looks like you got something maybe okay good. That's good I think that's at a certain point in time. It's just like It would be interesting to hear his perspective on a lot of things. I would like to know what is it like when you actually get an office. I would like to know things like: what is it like versus perception?

What is it actually like when you get in that building? Like, what are you greeted with? When do you know that people are fing? With you. Yeah, I mean, that's typical Joe Rogan.

Ask every man questions, and it would be great to get away from 2020. What happened? What about the voting machines? It's just great. And, you know, we hope to have Trump on here soon, too.

And I would love for these judges to say, listen, don't talk about 2020. You can get yourself in trouble. It would be the best thing possible for his. Request to be present. Because no one really questions his ideas, his toughness on the world stage.

There's no doubt about it. People are a little unnerved by what he does.

Some people here are unnerved, like General Kelly and others. I understand that. But for the most part, I'd love for people to start fearing us again. Uh because right now they're mocking us. and we're the strongest guy on the block and we acting like we're not.

And from buzzing our planes in Syria to what's happening in China, it's just got to stop. And he's not a big warmonger either. But look, the water's starting to break on Joe Rogan. That would be a big deal. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead.

They're also saying that he was just exercising his First Amendment right here. Do you think that's a valid argument in your view? No, I really don't think that's a valid argument. As the indictment says, he he they're not attacking his First Amendment right. He can say whatever he wants.

He can even lie. He can even tell people that the election was stolen when he knew better. But What? That does not protect you from entering into a conspiracy. All conspiracies involve speech, and all fraud.

Involves speech.

So free speech doesn't give you the right to engage in a fraudulent conspiracy.

Well, is it illegal? Is it criminal? And I saw the Wall Street Journal story today, and I thought the terms were kind of interesting. You know It it's condemnable, absolutely, but is it criminal? You know, is it outrageous behavior, the speech on January 6th, and go to the Capitol peacefully, whatever you want to say?

And the way the President acted after. Is it criminal? And that's the bigger question. Brett Tolman, now former federal prosecutor, former counsel to the Senate Judiciary Committee and former U.S. Attorney for Utah, joins us now.

Hey, Brett, this third indictment is anything but a knockout for the President, but each of them are going to be challenging. They're going to be expensive. But you heard what Bill Barr said. Do you want to comment directly to that? Yes, I do.

Brian, thanks for having me on. I will say, I think Bill Barr is dead wrong on this. And I think his disdain for President Trump is really clouding thoughtful analysis of what this indictment is. uh and and he's so close to a tree that he doesn't see the really the the harmful forest That is growing out of the efforts of someone like Jack Smith. When you have a prosecutor that's creative, you have a dangerous situation on your hand.

You know, I heard his comments about. Free speech and that every fraud and every conspiracy involves speech.

Well, the difference is you don't have criminal intent. You don't have anything in that indictment that points to the requisite Criminal intent, and you don't have statutes that are being used that criminalize what occurred. And that alone, I don't care if you hate Donald Trump or if you love him, that should be a really big red flag on this latest indictment.

So, Brett, why bring it? I mean, you only you have to come to politics on this. And Jack Smith, who's got a terrible record. You know about Menendez's case, he didn't get his conviction. The hung jury with John Edwards, he didn't get it there.

Reversal on the governor of Virginia at the Supreme Court level overcharging. And I go back to my original point. It's like he'd be the last person I'd asked to come back from The Hague to take this case because he's got a history of overcharging. I don't care how many triathlons he runs. Yeah, he took two and it's two and a half years of an investigation.

They timed the indictment. They're stacking these indictments. And one thing we never did in the Department of Justice is if you had a target, And you would pursue your best, most serious criminal indictment against that target, and you would see what happens on that case. before you brought Other potential cases, and here we're seeing multiple charges being brought. While he's after he's announced that he's running for election, I don't think they would have brought any of these had he indicated he's no longer going to run for election.

And and that fact alone is is really, really exposing the Department of Justice for its two-tiered system that it is right now. Brett Tolman, our guest.

So, Brett, some of the tax against him, I watch other channels that go out of my way to get different perspectives. I have no interest in doing what they do. And when you bring up something about a laptop or an investigation or a Corvette documents by a Corvette, they don't know what you're talking about because they have no idea that there's some other point of view out there and there are other facts that need to be addressed. Mike Pence, for example, said this on the story, and people are saying this could be detrimental. Cut 13.

Let's be clear on this point. It wasn't just that they asked for a pause. The President specifically asked me and his gaggle of crackpot lawyers asked me to literally reject votes, which would have resulted in the issue being turned over to the House of Representatives, and literally chaos would have ensued. That could have hurt him?

Well, it's It's not criminal to ask somebody if you believe, you know. Look at what lawyers do every day in this country. They can. Actually, disobey the law if they believe that the law is unconstitutional or illegal, and then they can go and the civil courts are well equipped to sort it out. Um Pence didn't end up doing what he says the lawyers were asking him to do.

The lawyers can do that and ask without it being criminal. The Supreme Court, if he had done it, And the Supreme Court is well suited to address it and to fix it. But what we're doing is we're taking legal advice that's typically advice of counsel is a defense to a client. We're taking that conduct. We're we're throwing lawyers and a client into a conspiracy and we're charging it criminal.

Legally and factually, this is not a criminal case. But is it going to hurt? Donald Trump? Yes, I think he'll be convicted. I think he'll be running for.

Uh President. From from a jail cell. You do get convicted. I I think you have you have a D C jury A judge that's not going to seriously entertain a motion to dismiss based on factual and legal deficiencies in this indictment. Can you motion to get rid of that judge?

You can, and but she gets to decide if if she recuses herself. And so she won't. They'll go forward. They'll push this trial. It's a 95% conviction rate with juries in the federal system.

DC. Absolutely disdains Donald Trump. He'll be convicted. He'll be sentenced to a long prison sentence, very long prison sentence. She will not entertain him being out while he appeals, so he will have to go.

Yeah. He'll then appeal, he'll lose at the DC Circuit, and then he'll appeal to the Supreme Court. If you set the record You know, if he's put the record very well together during the lower court. And the appellate court, then the Supreme Court might be that opportunity to avoid the conviction, to send it back to the district court. But I mean that's That's what I think is going to happen.

It would take something really remarkable for that to not happen.

So, Brett, if he gets convicted in D.C., What would say he said immediately, I'm going to appeal this case. And he appeals it. They would put him in jail while the appeal is pending. That's right. She will, she has under the statute, if the conviction occurs, as soon as that conviction occurs.

She can take him forthwith.

So you can take him right then, have the marshals take him from the courtroom to prison. Will they? I do. I just think they will. Yep.

Even though he's running for president. And They would just I I'm I'm a little stunned by that. I just thought an appeal would happen. Mm-hmm. No, I mean, it's not how it happens in the federal system.

They have the ability to take them right then. They will. This judge is notoriously upset at the January 6th having happened. Um she sentences very very uh tough sentencer. the exposure that the President have is enormous on this.

I think he'll be convicted. It's very different and why they brought it is because they want that dynamic. They do not like the situation in Mar a Lago. They don't like the judge. They don't like the possibility of a Florida jury.

And so this this is their You know, their belt and suspenders approach in order to ensure a conviction, they want him incarcerated. They want him incarcerated for a long time. That's the objective of the left, and they're driving. Very, very hard at getting it done. Brett Tullman, our guest.

Brett, the other thing would be the schedule.

So at what point, where do you fit this trial in? You got March 20th, Alvin Bragg. You have a May date, which sends me people to Mar-a-Lago. We know about the civil case stuff, and we probably Georgia will come up at some point and do their whole thing.

So where do you fit this in? And do you think the President's team has an effective case in saying we're not going to have any time to study all these charges? Yeah, it's gonna this is a tough one. To assess when it's going to happen because You have a 70-day Trial. speedy trial act.

They have to try the case within seventy days unless There's sufficient reasons to And the defense has to agree sufficient reasons to extend that 70 days. And typically, in a case as complex as this, meaning they've they've alleged a conspiracy that involves multiple states, multiple co-conspirators. This would take years to try. But what you see is Jack Smith's going to push this judge, and this judge is going to push. to get the conviction done no matter what.

prior to, you know. 2024 election. And it really is one woman's decision. Yeah. And one woman's decision to recuse herself or not, that won't go to an arbitrator and say, hey, listen, she is compromised.

She did work at the same law firm as Hunter Biden. She has cracked down and really rejected almost everything, reversed so many decisions when President Trump was President Trump. And now after the punisher of January 6th, having all those things, that wouldn't be enough, and it's only her vote anyway. Yeah, that's right. Go ahead.

Yeah, just uh just add that she should recuse herself. I mean, our justice system, judges, I think typically there's two reasons to recuse yourself. There's an outright conflict. you represented the defendant or you took part in whatever the underlying actions are or you have a family member. That's a direct conflict.

The other is the implied conflict The sorry, the perception conflict. And this one. absolutely rings the bell on the perception conflict that you c you can't believe you're going to get a fair trial and the c and the and the community can't believe it's going to be a fair trial when you have the dynamic you do in this case and all the connections that she has to the political adversary of the of the defendant she's going to oversee the case of.

So, just real quick on Hunter. Devin Archer comes out and he's going to be going to jail himself from some despicable financial acts. And he said, Yeah, his business partners with Hunter, and no doubt about it, Joe's influence in the Biden brand was able to get us this business that got us sitting down with the mayor of Moscow in a Cafe Mulano 2014 meeting and others, and had key meetings with different officials and with Chinese officials, Kazakhstan and Ukraine, Burisma Board, and all these things.

So now that Joe Biden's role in this can no longer be dismissed. What changes?

Well, you know, you heard the the media on the left. scrambling to try to explain this away. And even going so far as to saying, look, it they weren't peddling anything illegal. They were just peddling the illusion of access to Joe Biden.

Well, when he got on that phone call, the illusion is no longer there. It's actually real. That's an overt act. a conspiracy uh to peddle Access and influence is made at that point involving Joe, his brother, Hunter, all of them. I mean, talk about a real conspiracy that falls within the heartland of statutes that would criminalize this.

I mean, this is it. I mean, these are prosecuted. This is bread and butter fraud prosecution and corruption prosecution that happens every day across this country. It's easy. It's an easy case.

Um And so we're just left to watch this and see. insiders revealing the conspiracy. and DOJ doing nothing, nothing about it. And so what changes, I don't think anything changes until you have different leadership in the Department of Justice. Here's John Solomon on new news and links to China, cut nine.

American energy going over to help the communist country. And they realize that the Biden family name is the deal that closes this. In fact, they use the Biden influence. They even use the word influence several times. Democrats have said, This isn't an influence peddling scheme.

Well, just read these text messages. The B influence, one of the text messages say, will make sure that the Chinese close the deal, make the payment, deliver the money. That's what these text messages say. Over the course of two years, Hunter Biden gets a great deal. There's millions flowing to him and his family.

There's a three-carat diamond that he gets as a gift from the chairman of this company. And you see what's going on. Hunter Biden is using the Biden family name to help the communist Chinese energy company try to get energy resources on our soil, our know-how, or on Western soil in Europe, and send it over to the Chinese. And that's text messages he was able to discover. We know he also had a Porsche from officials in Kazakhstan.

We don't know where all the money was. Probably blew it on drugs and hookers. But your thoughts on this and knowing that I could talk to you in four days next week, and I know Comer's going to have more stuff. Yeah. So there's a there's a book called Master of the Senate, um a terrific, terrific um book on Lyndon Johnson.

And it it describes a uh an incident in which An individual brings $50,000 in cash and leaves it in the restroom. And then Lyndon D. Johnson, an aide for Lyndon Johnson, goes and picks it up. and ultimately delivers it to Lyndon B. Johnson.

Everybody that reads that looks at that and says, oh, that's just that's just blatant corruption and illegal and bribery and whatever you want to describe it and condemn it.

Well, here, we're not talking fifty thousand dollars in cash. You're talking about Hunter Biden and his team claiming that they are a lobbyist. Yeah. Entity and firm, and they're indicating that they want so many millions of dollars.

Well, the real difference between a legitimate lobbyist who Hunter could be, he could be paid a million dollars, and he goes and he lobbies members of Congress. But the two things that stand out is You would never lobby your father because that would be illegal. You would also never facilitate the money you get paid as a lobbyist to actually go to your father. Yeah. You call the big guy, the Brad.

Yeah. You have to leave it there. It's maddening. And let's see if it really develops. Even the Washington Post is beginning to pay attention.

Brad Tolman, thanks so much. Back in a moment. It's Brian Killmead. A talk show that's real. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

Hey, we're back at a couple of minutes here. Don't forget to watch One Nation this weekend. One of the themes I've been really grabbing onto is we were able to go back, Eric. MP now, so we go back to the debates. And how many times Joe Biden just looks in the camera and just flat out lied.

So people just say, you know. He's an older guy. He's been around forever. I don't really know a lot about him. But, you know, Donald Trump's a little crazy.

So I'm going to vote for this guy. Everything that Donald Trump's saying doesn't make any sense. The laptop, the 51 Intel agents, all of this doesn't sense.

So. In states like Georgia and Arizona and Wisconsin and possibly even Michigan. They flipped. And Pennsylvania. They flip by a few thousand votes, not many votes.

And then you wonder how people would feel if the guy across. was involved in international business deals, but was never a businessman. But traded on our his national power Given to him by the small cadre of supporters in Pence in Delaware. He held on to the same job since he was twenty seven years old.

So he knows all the levers of power. He has his sons, his family. Drug adult son going out there cutting these complex deals, and he comes in as the closer and the influencer to get things done in exchange. If you had known that. Tell me that wouldn't have affected the election.

So that's what I'm going to build on. Matt Taibbi is going to be my lead guest on that, and he's Saturday at 8 o'clock. But I'm going to build on it here, too, because much more in the show. It's been a very intense week.

So glad you're here. From Hia Top Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, it's Brian Kilmeet. Thank you so much for listening to the Brian Kilmeet Show.

Coming to you all week on a very busy week. I got back from Italy, was able to hit the ground running on Wednesday. That's the magic of a 10-hour flight. When you have a 10-hour flight and very few friends, you sit around, you get introspective, you stare out the window, then you realize it's. Nothing changes, and we're not really going that fast.

and it's a lot of water. And then you realize I might as well get some work done.

So I really feel like I didn't miss anything, although I missed some stuff. With me in the studio right now, someone who never stares out the window. She's so busy. Shannon Bream, anchor of Fox News Sunday, Fox News chief legal analyst and author of the book, The Love Stories of the Bible Speak. And you're going to watch her pretty soon on the weekend.

Yeah, but first Brian. Saturday night with Brian, Sunday morning with Shannon. Yeah, Saturday, uh, One Nation coming up at eight o'clock on Saturday. Uh, Tim Sheehee's gonna be here. Uh and you know, he's the special operator that wants to be the next senator, uh knock out uh Jon Tester and Matt Taibbi.

Where did the journalism go during the twenty sixteen 2020 election. To Fox and Friends? Yeah. Excuse me? To Fox and Friends.

There was journalism there. Thank you. I'm just trying to give you a little bit of a right. No, thanks. Plus, your show was on at that point.

Were you at 11 or 12? You were at 12. One of those nighttime things. Right. Nighttime places.

It's a pretty crazy week. It has been. I'm glad that during the commercial I was here to help you with show prep for this weekend. Right. I was serving as Brian Franklin.

I got blitzed. I got blitzed. Yeah, she handed me my folder. Uh d by the way, do we have uh Eric, do we have any by any chance I have that Brett Tolman bite? At any point?

Okay.

So yes. Yeah. Yes, yes. This is the cool thing about Red. Does anybody say no to Brian Killme, though?

I feel like it's always a yes, right? I don't think so. What happens is they pretend they can't get any, they can't hear me, which is interesting in an audio in a conversation. I've known a husband or two to do that. It was probably for the best.

So, Shannon, in particular, yesterday's taking place, and I'm watching this, and I'm saying, how long are we going to say historic? How many times are we going to say unprecedented? We're past that now. Right. And then the next one, we know Georgia's coming in two weeks.

You know that Georgia is not going to have a press conference and go, you know, I don't see anything. I cannot imagine anything could happen. But yeah, we're in that window where we expect. If something's coming from that special grand jury in Georgia, it is coming soon. And I thought it was interesting that the sheriff down there said, unlike the federal proceedings, like, oh, yeah, if he gets indicted here, there will be a mugshot.

And because it's different. It's different as the state court down there. And some people who were explaining to me, should he win? Should he become president? He could pardon himself on federal state.

You can't pardon yourself from the Georgia story? Yeah. So can you? Can you imagine, okay, you win president? They're like, well, it's time for you to report to your jail sentence in Macon.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, what it's just the whole thing. You're right. We got to say, stop saying historic and unprecedented because now it's become old hat.

So the one thing that's underreported is that if you are President Trump and you have to go to jail and you win the presidency. What about the people that are assigned to the White House? They all have to go to prison. And cover the president as he meets with the press? I think working remotely is a good argument.

Can I zoom into your prison cell? Um but remember the Secret Service would have to be with him.

So if he's president and has been convicted of something that puts him in jail that he can't pardon himself from, the Secret Service is going to have to go on eight hour shifts, I guess, with him to prison. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: There's a lot of people who feel as though and you as a legal scholar, without taking your I know you don't want to stay involved in opinion about guilty or not guilty, overcharged or undercharged, but just looking at these charges, there's no conspiracy. To throw an election. There's no, hey, Steve Bannon, you storm the gates. Hey, Proud Boys, you take the backside.

Hey, Oath Keepers, you're surprised to know all these. Hey, Oath Keepers, you take the flank. Let's go. We found the game plan. Nothing seems to be found since the January 6th committee stuff, which was blatant partisan, big show.

Well, and that begs the question: is there more to this case than we don't know? Because what was in that indictment is stuff that we even know.

Well, but here's the thing: okay, former Attorney General Bill Barr, who's been out there talking about this this week, said he thinks there's more. He thinks that Jack Smith has more than we've seen in this indictment. And maybe he doesn't want to give away the whole case. He wanted to give up enough for an indictment. But remember, the grand jury, they hear from all kinds of people and things that some of that's going to be blocked at trial.

Obviously, you don't have an adversarial process during the grand jury, meaning only one side's evidence is getting presented.

So defense will get involved. There'll be a lot of pretrial wrangling about trying to keep out testimony from Pence or whoever. There's a long way to go. U.S. Attorney Britt Tolman just told us this.

But what we're doing is we're taking legal advice that's typically advice of counsel is a defense to a client. We're taking that conduct. We're throwing lawyers and a client into a conspiracy and we're charging it criminal. Legally and factually, this is not a criminal case. But is it going to hurt Donald Trump?

Yes, I think he'll be convicted. I think he'll be running for president. from from a jail cell. Oh boy. Have you heard that?

I mean, anything is possible. I know people hope for that. Anything is possible. Certainly his detractors are hoping for that. But here's the deal.

DC, even though I do think it's the weaker of the two federal cases, I think the Mar-a Lago case is more prob problematic for the former president and his legal team. The DC jury is, you know, it's not a Trump country. 92% of the vote in 2020 went for President Biden in D.C. There I can't imagine they don't file for a change of venue, but there's no guarantee the judge will even entertain that seriously or that they'll have a chance at that. But I think he's going to have a much tougher time with a D.

C. jury than he would with a Florida jury.

So he's right. You think if Toman, you're a betting man, you know the judge is known as the punisher for a reason. You know, the judge, as a judge, has stopped four or five different pieces of legislation of executive orders that he put out have stopped them. And you know, January 6th, a Democrat who supported worked for Barack Obama and then gave money to Barack Obama's campaign. You know where she stands, went to school at the same place, was at the same firm as Hunter Biden.

So all this stuff, she is ultimately the decider whether she should recuse herself. Of course, she should recuse herself, don't you think?

Well, federal judges are not going to do that. There are means to, short of the Supreme Court, to make calls about recusals and those kinds of things. But we want to trust our federal judges and we want to trust our jurors that they can be open-minded and fair. I mean, that's the way the system works. There are appeals.

There are grounds for appeals if you feel like that there's been unfairness and bias in the process. But I think for now that. You know, the Trump League goals team is going to have to play the hand that they're dealt, and that includes this judge. They accuse that judge, but when? When does this trial start?

I don't know because I do think it could leapfrog Mar-a-Lago. I think the classified documents and getting the wrangling over that, that's going to slow that trial down a little bit. But they don't want a speedy trial, I don't think. I think the president's legal team. Trump doesn't.

No, I think that they want this stuff to be after the election. I don't think they want it to be, listen, to prepare for any one trial, and there are now multiple state and federal trials looming for this president. You need your client focus. There's a ton of prep that goes into making sure you're ready for a trial.

So if he's doing three, four, five, six of those while also running for president, it's nearly an impossible schedule to hold. I do think he is fueled by the fight, though. I think that he enjoys the back and forth. He enjoys the fight. But these legal cases are very draining and difficult for a defendant sitting in that chair hoping for innocence.

So what will he do? He'll fight, and he'll do it through John Lauro, who's his attorney handling this case. This is what he said to Laura last night, CUP 15. This has criminalized First Amendment speech because President Trump, like all of us, has a right to redress grievances, has a right to protest an election that he felt was unfair, has a right to campaign on a position. And they've attacked that right, not just for President Trump, but for everyone.

But now, today in court, which was a very terribly sad day. They're attacking other parts of the Constitution because they want to. Take President Trump to trial in a few months. They want to deny him his Sixth Amendment rights to counsel to give me and my co-counsel Todd Blanche an opportunity to prepare. They want to deny President Trump his due process rights to look at documents, to get witnesses, to use our subpoena power.

They want to deny all of him those rights in a rush to judgment for one political purpose, and that's to uphold the Biden administration. Make no mistake about it. This has Merrick Garland's handiwork all around it. Do you see G Garland's handiwork all around it, or do you see him just signing off on Jack Smith's work?

Well, what the DOJ will say is that all these decisions are left to the special counsel. But what's also true is that there can be a final sign-off. By the AG. It essentially goes through their office, and if they see something glaring that they want to flag or disagree with, they can. But what they'll say is, this is Jack Smith's case.

He handled it. We didn't see any major problems that needed us to intervene with it. And so it just proceeded. I guess that's where we stand. We'll see these two cases, and then we're going to see Alvin Bragg on March 20th.

People talk about these like the chess pieces. Oh, they'll get Alvin Bragg to move. He'll voluntarily step aside. I mean, how does this work? One court talks to another court just because they're friendly with each other?

Why would anybody want to move as a prosecutor their trial? You know, and Bragg's going to say, hey, I got my indictment in first. It's in March. I don't see that I need to move. I mean, it's not.

The Trump team, I believe that's one of the cases. They tried to move it to federal court, and they said no.

So it's going to stay in New York State court. They went first, and they're going to argue that it should be their position. The fact that there's a meeting on this DC, the latest indictment on the 28th, that's moving very quickly.

So it'll be interesting to see what the federal judge has to say at that point. The president does not have to go to that, the former president.

Well, he didn't have to go yesterday either. Oh, I didn't know that. No, so the fact that he went was a choice. I mean, the optics of it, and I think that he likes to show that he's going there. I mean, with his social media yesterday, he said, I'm going here to get arrested for you.

And so I think there are a lot of good optics in that for him. It works. It's working in fundraising. It's working on the campaign trail. He'll be back in Alabama today, and you better believe he's going to talk about this.

Isn't it this type of things that Jesus says? Like, you know, he did a lot for us. And so is Trump. Do you see a lot of the parallels? I do not.

Only because you know where I stand on the faith issue. Yes, I believe Jesus stood in the gap for us in very important ways in saving us from ourselves. I would not equate any other human to doing that. All right, we'll see. We'll agree and disagree.

Okay.

Here's Newt Gingrich on who should be charged, cut 20. And I'm absolutely certain that the current Attorney General, Merrick Garland, is in grave danger. Of being charged with obstruction of justice and with having destroyed the system. I mean, the I think the Congress, frankly, should be right now subpoenaing all the documents between Smith and Garland, because I think Garland's been directing this. I think the timing is weird.

As you know, the other night, Waters put up a chart that showed something happens to Hunter, the next two or three days, something happens to Trump.

Something happens to Hunter, the next two or three days, something happens to Trump. I mean, this is so blatantly, disgustingly political. that it has no business being in the Department of Justice.

So, Newt Gingrich, you know how he feels. Do you think he has a case? Do you think that we should charge Garland? Here's the thing: that House majority is so slim. And then you hit a brick wall in the Senate.

So unless Republicans win a lot more seats in both of those chambers, I don't see how they could move forward with impeachment. I mean, you could move forward with it. You could probably get it through the House, but it's going to die in the Senate. I know Shannon Bream is with us now. She's getting set to host Fox News Sunday.

And I know a lot of times you'll just sit in the halls of Congress and just listen. When you were in the hall of Congress, do you believe the Republicans are getting poised to start impeachment proceedings in September? Is that real? I think that they're trying to have their internal conversations and figure that out before they get any more public conversation going about it. You saw how well that went when some of those folks lifted their head and were like, yeah, we're thinking about moving forward with impeachment.

There were even Republicans who stood up and said, like, wait a minute, we need to be very careful with launching the I word. As much as they railed on it during the Trump administration, they got to be careful because everybody's going to throw those quotes right back in their face. And you know it's going nowhere in the Senate. It just isn't. Diane Feinstein now has her daughter take power of attorney.

She's clearly failing. How long are they going to prop her up? I've congratulations, you great life, great career. I don't really know her. People really respect you.

I understand that. But doing the job, But both you and I, if we were in that situation and couldn't do the job, we would be told, sorry, here's your gold watch in your case. You can go now. You're getting platinum. Right.

Do you think they're holding on to her position? Because. They know that if she has to resign, Gavin Newsome has promised to replace him with a black woman, and that would stop Adam Schiff from becoming senator. There's so many competing interests there because, you know, Nancy Pelosi's backing someone. You've got other members of Congress backing other people, right, backing Schiff.

And then you've got other members out there who are calling for Diane Feinstein to step down because they're backing someone else and they want them to get appointed. They want them to get away from that. It cares about her, though. I know. And the crazy thing is, so much of it has been about the Senate Judiciary Committee because if they lose her vote, it's not clear that Republicans would play ball at all with allowing Democrats to put somebody else on that committee.

And it's a key committee. Shannon, who's going to be on your show? John Laurel, representing President Trump, is going to be on with us.

So we're going to talk through all the legal. We've got Andy McCarthy and John Yoo with us to talk. The legal and the political, too. We've got Congressman Auchincloss with us to talk about the Hunter Biden thing. Why do Democrats think the Devin Archer transcript wasn't slammed on for them?

Because Republicans think the same thing.

So we'll debate all that. And we've got a lot of foreign policy, too. All right. I got one. Jen Saki weighed in on that.

You're not going to believe what she said. More with Shannon Breem in a moment. You're listening to the Brian Kill Me Show, Fox News Sunday coming up on Sunday. That's the day for Fox News Sunday. Back in a moment.

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And there's no evidence of that, but they're going to keep trying because that is the argument that they want to fuzzy the waters out there. Muddy the waters, not fuzzy them. Muddy the waters out there. That, by the way, is a tactic that Vladimir Putin and other authoritarian dictators use, but that's their strategic objective, to make it all seem the same. Right.

Russian disinformation.

So, Shannon, I want you to be ready for all types of angles for your Fox News Sunday show. Jensaki, who is extremely bright, I don't care if you agree with one syllable she says. No one doubts how smart she is, and she knew the issues better than the President. whether you agree with them or not. For her to say that, I was almost like, really?

To think that the Devin Archer revelations that talked about Joe Biden's role and the parachuting into 20 separate meetings over the course of 10 years, a handwritten note saying, I'm so glad you and Hunter are working together, showing the president lied about not talking about his overseas business dealing, the picture of them golfing together, and he says classic Russian disinformation. Really?

Well, and I'm so glad that only certain people in Washington would ever try to muddy the waters on any topic. Like it's exclusive to any certain group of people. Like, everybody does this. Because what is the saying? If you're explaining, you're losing.

So they, you know, whoever it is, either side, you want the other side to be so confused that they have to keep explaining. They have to keep, like you just laid out with Devin Archer or whatever. A lot of people are like, I don't even know who Devin Archer is. What interview. I mean, average people that are trying to put food on the table and pay their bills are not as into this as we are.

So thank goodness you're here to tell them.

So Nicole Parker is an FBI agent, and she was on Fox News at Night Your Old show with, I think Trace was on last night. And here's what he said about the transcript that's been released that you can get at Foxnews.com about Devin Archer behind closed doors on Monday. Cut in. This transcript is very, very powerful evidence. Obviously, there's going to need to be a lot of further investigation to occur, but it appears that the Bidens made millions of dollars based on their family name.

They used their brand. They used it to intimidate people to get Burisma out of legal trouble. And this is something that needs to be investigated. I think that the unfortunate part is that it appears that the Department of Justice is not doing their job and doing a full and thorough investigation. You know, it appears that the Congress, members of Congress, are having to do a lot of the work.

The whistleblowers are having to do the work. Devin Archer is coming forward. The Hunter Biden laptop. You know what? If FBI and Department of Justice aren't going to investigate it, the truth is going to come to light one way or another.

But in what generation? I mean, we get to know the people who are going to be able to be live. Yeah, Gage Comer is pulling out more international show companies to find out what's going on. But does this drive you? Crazy Shannon because Tony Bobolinski told us a lot of this, which Devin Archer kind of revealed by the money.

Years ago. Years ago. He did, and he was able to confirm these emails that I'm on, they're legit. The ones on the laptop, I was a party to them. Yes, I have them on the receiving end.

These are not phony-up, made-up emails.

So he's been saying that for years.

So, for Devin Archer to now come out, it's also you have to remember that before 2020, before the election, the FBI knew that the laptop was real. They knew that.

So, when the dozens of people came out, the Intel people and signed that letter. The FBI never publicly spoke up and said, Actually, we already know what's going on. Joe Biden. And he had no problem looking right in the camera. He knew that was his son's laptop.

Those were his emails, his voicemail, and he knew it. And he allowed his friends to be compromised by putting their reputations on the line and saying, 51 Intel experts said this is classic Russian disinformation. I know you look for the good in people. I do. That's a blatant lie.

There was no even gray area. You can't say, well, that's not what I meant. Can I take you to lunch at Chick-fil-A now? Chick-fil-A. We stand up.

Do you still have a show to do? Oh, and hope there'll be a place to sit? That's not hanging out. No one doesn't know where we're going to get it to go. We can eat in your fancy office.

So, well, oh, we will eventually sit down. Yeah, yeah. All right, good. Your office. I'm on.

Okay.

I'm in. It's on me. Yeah. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Killmead. People that love Trump feel like this is a witch hunt, and they feel like all the things he's getting indicted for are b.

Anyway, it does not only does it not work, but it kinda hardens their position that he's being targeted and that this is y these are like the the actions of a banana republic. You take your political rival and you arrest him, and specifically you charge him with things that you're f guilty of. Like the the the documents, like the classified documents. Biden's guilty of the exact same issue. That was Joe Rogan, an impactful player in every sense of the word, going to bat for Trump.

He doesn't go to Trump a lot. I listen a lot. He's not Mr. Trumper, but he's not anti-Trumper. He's open.

Tyrus is here, Fox Nation host, just fresh off doing a week. Was it a complete week of Gutford?

Well, yeah. Yeah, I'm still doing all right. I'm still with us, man. Yeah, I heard you last night. You were extremely funny.

Just Tyrus, name of the memoir. And by the way, he's got dates coming up where you can see him on stage. He's basically stand-up, bringing in all his very unique life, his great life story, as well as his days here at Fox, intimate stories that nobody wants to get out, but only everyone's afraid to tell Tyrus to not say anything. And also, he just says stand-up, and he also is this outstanding wrestler and football player.

So he's got dates on the 24th in Decatur, Illinois, on the 7th in Gulf Spring, Alabama. Alabama loves us, and should be you. October 21st in Woodruff, Virginia, and on the 11th in Walhallis, South Carolina. And November 17th, over in Los Angeles. And Crowley is a Louisiana excuse.

Louisiana, Louisiana. Crowley, Louisiana. In Louisiana, which is a home game for you. Yeah, it's a home.

Well, it's a short drive, which I'll take. You know, one of the things that stand-up, I don't talk very much about Fox, but I do make one joke where I'll be, you know, they'll ask me, like, what's it like? Because I do a QA afterwards where the fans get to ask questions. And They're always asking me, like, when are you going to get your own show? When are you going to get?

I said, well, you know, the thing about Fox is when they give you a new show, they don't take away an old show. And I said, you know, and the next thing you know, you're killmed. And you just want to say to them, Go home, man. Just go home. And it always gets a big laugh because they're like, I'm like, Has anyone had a week where they didn't see Kill Mead?

It's impossible. And I said, and then someone asked, What's he like in the hallway? I said, He doesn't, he has to keep going. He goes from one place to another. He doesn't have time to talk.

You got to get it in an elevator, otherwise, he's got to keep moving. But you're pretty much a guy that stares straight ahead, too, though. Yeah, yeah. We just focus on the job. You know, we don't really have time for pleasure.

Isn't it weird for you to just be in an office every day? Yeah. Are you used to it yet? No. Well, plus, my office is different because I'm generally, I haven't changed much from my college days and like what I do to decompress and keep my mind right.

I research, then I take a break and play on my Xbox. I research, then my kids will jump on my Xbox.

So a lot of times when people knock on the door and open up, I'm playing a game and they're like. I was like, listen, this is my process. You can sit around and you guys have your little powwows and your life conversations, but this is how I keep my mind right.

Well, that's good because you're doing gut filled three or four times a week. Yep. When you choose. Like when you do you did they ask you when you want to come on? No, uh you know what it is?

I typically do Tuesday through Friday. Um and then I'm supposed I'm scheduled for three, but I do four. That way I have some wiggle room when I have uh events and stuff coming up.

So So uh Tyrus, coming off that last statement, I always like, look, outside Fox, I'm I'm always flipping around. Do you do that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. To get an idea.

Plus, you you gotta understand you gotta travel the country so you're talking to people all the time.

So so when I hear Joe Rogan come out and say people understand that this is this is out of control now.

Well, here's the here's the thing. What What the mainstream media or the anti-Trump movement tries to convince you that the only people who support him is his base. And so that's their thing. He's in the polls because all his base is showing up. But what we're seeing, and what I've seen across the country, it's not the base.

It's everyday people. Rogan's just. Stating the obvious that everyone is bringing up. And even he makes a great point about, but I would even challenge him. President Trump was the president.

He could declassify anything he wants to. Vice President Biden and Senator Biden had no business having classified information outside of that room.

So there was a president who could make the argument that it was declassified, or he could declassify and say he could make that argument in court. Biden can't make that argument. Did you hear anything about it? No, and that's what people are being drawn to. What they're making, they just, with Trump, they don't get it because they need him.

So much because now their ratings are back. They will literally we literally saw a reporter Who was stationed for CNN in the middle of the street waiting for his car to come by, just to come by, just like catch a glimpse, to hopefully see him un unwind or unraveled. That they despise. Yeah. Because they need him, because they get ratings.

And the ones who Profited the most from him, the Jim Acostas. They had great rises during the Trump administration, and then once Trump was gone. They fell off a cliff. Especially CNN. Yeah, because that's what their whole thing.

And instead of learning from their lesson, They're doing it again. And again, they'll get their first, they'll get the bump. People will watch. They'll watch the car accident. But after a while, it's like, you know, I always talk about, I had a great wrestling trainer, Dr.

Tom Pritchard, always used to tell me, you know, I want to do so much in the ring. He goes, Yeah, the first night you do it in the ring, it's like two elephants making love in the front yard. Everybody in the neighborhood is going to stop to watch this spectacle, horrified, impressed, shocked, whatever. Everyone, you're going to be in the paper, you're going to have TV, everyone's going to come to see by week three. They're just walking around the elephants.

By week four, it's just a lawn ornament. Nobody cares anymore. And that's CNN and those, they're like, right now we got him. Everyone's tuning in. We got him.

What you're doing is you're showing the case to the independents and everyday Americans who are like, you know what? I don't like the way this is being treated.

So, having said all that and the sentiment being out there, we have to put this in context. And it is jail. Freedom or jail.

So listen to what Brett Tolman just told us. And, you know, he's not an anti-Trumper. I think he is a U.S. attorney. Listen.

But what we're doing is we're taking legal advice that's typically advice of counsel is a defense to a client. We're taking that conduct. We're we're throwing lawyers and a client. into a conspiracy and we're charging it criminal. Legally and factually, this is not a criminal case.

But Is it gonna hurt? Donald Trump, yes, I think he'll be convicted. I think he'll be running for. Uh president. From from a jail cell.

How do you feel about that? Unfortunately, I reluctantly agree. I think, and here's the thing: I'm not a Trumper. I voted for Trump twice because I thought he was a better choice. Um But did I have issues?

Yeah, you've had issues. You've called it straight down the line. But to look at it, they're charging him with so many, they just need one. They just need one. And we're in They're not going to stop because if they get one.

than they've won at least they think they've won. But I I I honestly think What they've done. Instead of uh like you know, in the sixties it probably would have been a bullet in the back of the head. That was probably when assassinations in America were a thing.

Now they try to assassinate you through the social media and and the news and this. But what they're creating is a living martyr.

So even if they let's say they succeed, and somehow that Biden ends up beating Trump. in the in the election to be president. They are they are literally Spawning a generation that's going to come behind Trump with his philosophy, with the drain the swamp. It's never going to go back to the way they want it. It's never going to go back to the, you buy my son's paintings, you buy him enough, you put enough money in our pockets, then you'll get a cush job.

Because that's how it was, and no one talked about it. And everyone did it, whether you're Republican or Democrat. You put a bunch of money.

Next thing you know, your kid who can't get a job is an ambassador, or you're in charge of this thing. And this is how government worked. Trump changed that because he didn't need their money or their favors. And they despised him for it. And they don't want to go back.

Because when you hear them argue about him real quick, when you listen to like the view and they talk about they call him a criminal and they call him all these things, where's the convictions? What crimes was he up against before? What was basically. For four years you had a coup. Out loud, a polite coup where you try to take him out of office, he loses office, and you're shocked that he thinks it's rigged.

Right. And what situation on what planet where you and I come to work every day and half the building's trying to get us fired? And then, lo and behold, we get cut on budget cuts. You and I are going to be sitting at the bar going, This is BS, they're out to get us, this was rigged. No one's not going to think that way.

And it can't be illegal to go to the bar and talk about that. But and then if I had a attorney that you might not like and, you know, crackpot, whatever you want, genius, but they're giving they're giving advice different from the other law law advice.

Okay, fine. Right. I I want I I believe uh I believe one thing I'm going to listen to these attorneys.

Now to me, you didn't have proof, mister President. Uh move on.

Sometimes in life you lose. You don't you blame the refs, you blame the field, you blame the state, whatever it is.

Sometimes you lose, you couldn't prove it.

So move on. And if he did move on, shook his hand, showed up at the inaugural, whatever. Will be a rematch, Andrew Jackson style. There'll be a rematch. Right, but I and he'd be back, there'll be nobody else in the race, and he'd be at 72% approval rating.

If I went through two BS impeachments, a Russian scandal, my entire presidency, which disrupted me doing work, I don't think I would shake hands with the other side either.

Okay.

Because there was an opportunity for Joe Biden. There was an opportunity. Even now, his silence speaks volumes. There was an opportunity for leadership to see, like, you know what? We're going to come together.

I'm going to extend the olive branch. But he didn't do that because they're so afraid of him. And even now, his silence, because you should be telling the American people some assurance: like, listen, we're going to get to the process, but I promise it is going to be due process. If there was an issue with the judge, we're going to replace the judge. We're going to make sure that this thing's done right.

Or you say, let's settle this after the election for the American people. Let the American people decide who's president, and then we'll sort it out in court afterwards. But he's not doing those things because this is great cover for him. Does it blow you away that people are allowed to get away with this because of the way you grew up? When people broke the law, did stuff, they paid the price and they were vilified for it.

We're watching people in suits do things if they were wearing a different thing in a different occupation, in a different city, they would never get away with this. I used to argue all the time. When people would tell me, oh, you can't do anything about it. I'm like, what are you talking about? Literally, you steal a soda from 7-Eleven, they'll come to your house and get you.

That's what I grew up with.

So, when I would hear, like, oh, there's nothing going to be done, I would lose my mind because I'm like, no, you're just being afraid, you're being lazy. Take the steps, file the charges, do the right thing. And you would think with the cameras on and the very best of the very best of the DOJ, they can't put two things together that anybody who's watched Murder She Wrote twice can put together with Hunter Biden and his dad. Like, it's ridiculous. And then the things that is so easy to, like, you and I could.

Connect that Rubik's cube pretty easy. We don't have to pull any stickers or anything. But then. All the information going on, a guy who said probably inappropriate and wrong things. But again, I can sympathize or empathize with President Trump because he literally had to go through.

Unbelievable attacks his entire presidency with no basis or no foundation.

So when the elect votes come in, he I have to keep saying this because this makes no sense to me. He 1,000% should be saying it was rigged. And that's when Pence and the lawyers came in and said, I know you feel that way, but this is how it is. He didn't care. He was wronged his entire presidency.

He should be bitter. It's a natural, he had the highest office. And it used to be when a president won, even if you disagreed with him, the first hundred days was his. It used to be a mutual respect. He didn't get 100 hours.

He didn't get 10 minutes.

So I don't, I don't, I would be saying the same thing. Yeah, James Comey pull him over his own boardroom and say, listen, they got this tape out here. Yeah. And now we find out that all this stuff wasn't real. No, Comey knew it.

He knew it. They just, it's what the problem with right now in this country is the virtue signaling. And there's a small group, and they use the term elites, but there's not much elite about them, other than the fact that they have money and they can pull strings that have decided that they know what's best for the American people. He's not good for you. They're basically that step parent you never wanted.

They're trying to put their rules and morals on you. I thought so until I saw them go after DeSantis the way they did. You know, they're going for this site as a leading. Kill them. Kill them.

Not just beat them. No, because racist sexists think slavery is good. They are. It's so funny because they say if the Republicans get into office, we'll be going back to 1963. But I argue under your policies, we're already there.

Okay, so the police in the early 60s and 50s, based off of us against them mentality, whites versus black mentality, they wouldn't help in the neighborhoods, right? They refused to help in the neighborhoods with crime.

Now we have it to where you've depleted the police force where they can't help.

So the only difference. If you touch somebody that happens to be a minority, you're going to jail.

So all they've done is they've recreated it. It's just they've done it politely to saying there's no help coming. And we're not going to do anything about it because we're giving you your freedom. There's no difference. The difference was the policemen were back then, and I'm paraphrasing not all because they're still men and women who did their job because the civil rights wasn't done by one group, it was done by all colors coming together.

White policemen, black policemen, all parts of our country coming together, saying enough of this. But at least they had the dignity. to say no I'm I'm racist and I don't Participate. At least you knew where you stood there. You don't know where you stand now until you are sitting there outside your home being having your car taken from you and your wife beat up.

Then you realize that they're not they don't give a damn about but They care about you, though. And that's the part that's disgusting. Yeah, when you got your face smashed in like a drink. He's telling me to my face I'm not welcome. I have more respect for a man who will tell me that I don't want to sit at the dinner table with you because I don't like the way you look than a guy who sits at the table and tells me how lucky I should feel that he was able to come and spend time with me.

All right, Tyrus is here. A couple more minutes when we come back. Are you going to be on Guffel tonight? Yeah. All right, good.

So we'll see him tonight at 10 o'clock now, and then we come back more on his dates and what to expect when you see him on stage. Don't move. Educating, entertaining, enlightening. You're with Brian Kilmead. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it.

You're with Brian Kilmead. Hey, we're back. Tyrus is here.

So, if you want to see Tyrus on stage, which is a show like another, it's called. What does it say? Nuffset? Nuffset. This is a Nuffset tour.

I just finished the Tyrus Live, and then my next stand-up. Set is enough said. And August 24th in Decatur, Illinois. Yes, uh October 7th in Gulf Shores, Alabama, the 21st in Woodford, Virginia. Then we're on the 11th in Walhalla, South Carolina, November 17th in Crowley, Louisiana, and go for tickets.

You go to the- Just go to my link tree. Yep. Okay, great. And by the way, how big is your staff? Oh, this is just my wife and me and my kids.

That's it. That's it. So I don't sleep.

So do you um so when you go to these events, they work, they sell the books? We have volunteers uh or we pay uh someone to work merch for us.

Sometimes my uh son's uncle Teveta, when he's not wrestling in Japan, he works with me, but we keep it small. This was something that I've always snuck in and done improv here and there. I never looked at comedy because this sounds silly, but because of my size, I was always told I was too big to be a stand-up comedian. I was like, all right, whatever. And I just didn't feel like arguing with people.

So I would just sneak in and do improvs every now and then. And basically, it was an argument with Ingrid, my other half. And she said, well, I could book you venues. And I said, and I was watching the football game. I didn't even turn my head.

I just said, yeah, whatever. Just you can do it. You can run it. You can keep the money. It's great.

Backfired completely because now she's. She keeps the money? Yeah. I get 15% of every show. Like legit 15%.

So are you comfortable acting outside your character? Yeah, like when I'm. Because you act, you're in movies. I do movies and stuff, but usually I play. The thing about movies is very rarely do I get a smart character.

I'm usually the big, dumb guy, and then I'll sneak little things in that show. Yeah, like when I was doing Preacher, I was. I was the devil I was the devil's uh bodyguard in the I was in charge of the jail cell.

So I was Hellguard. That was my name, Hellguard, real original. And he was just stare stoically stare, but he was like, You're a bully, you're this.

So I would do little things like one of the Actors was dribbling a basketball, and as I walked by, I knocked the basketball away and smirked because that's what a bully would do in hell, in my opinion. Like, you would ruin everybody's day. And so, I would just do little things like that. And pretty much every project I've been in. That's kind of, and then all of a sudden, one day they'll come in from a meeting and be like, hey, we're adding lines here.

We want to do this. Can we get more facial stuff? Like, do your, do your, do you. And so it's a risk, though, because sometimes you do it and they're like, hey, just stand there and do this. You're going to die in the next scene, okay?

No one wants to know you. Absolutely. Hey, Tyrus, great scene. We'll see you tonight. Yep.

And I look forward to seeing you on stage in your new book coming out in the fall, right? Oh, by the way, next time you send an amateur for the duel on your show, One Nation, you better bring somebody who's ready because I called you out. Listen to the show ad-free on Fox News Podcast Plus, on Apple Podcast, Amazon Music with your Prime membership, or subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Hmm.