Disaster: Mass of humanity at border raises concerns, Mayorkas downplays

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest growing radio talk show. Brian Kilmead. Hi, everyone. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmee Show. What a week it's been, and today is not slowing down at all.

Harali Rivera is standing by. We just got Daniel Penny. He's the 24-year-old Marine that tried to subdue a crazed lunatic on a subway. Sadly, a submission hold turned into a chokehold, and the guy ended up passing away. He was just arraigned, he's going to be charged second-degree manslaughter.

He is still inside the fifth precinct in Manhattan. It's going to be a huge national story.

Now they got 20 days to put together a case and then bring it to the grand jury simultaneously. And there's been non-stop protests in New York because he's white and the assailant and the The schizophrenic, he is, the schizophrenic 30-year-old who is threatening everybody on the subway. Is black.

So people see race in this. I see subway danger. I'm on the subway three times a week. Uh for the past 20 years Over the last five years, white, black, Hispanic, there's always a nut, at least once every two weeks, there's always some crazed guy, whether it's somebody just sleeping shirtless on the seat or screaming, demanding money. This was 2:30 in the afternoon on a train I'm on often.

It's on the below this building, the F train.

So let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. This thing was all political. Understand that Tony Blinken first contacts Mike Morrell and says, oh, what do you think about this laptop issue? That story gets put in the very letter that John Brennan, Mike Morrell, and 49 other former Intel officials sign on to.

That is Jim Jordan. Of course, he's with the Judiciary Committee where he's chair. More proof. Intel, the press, the DOJ, in bed with Biden. As John Brennan goes behind closed doors for four hours and talks about the plot to protect Hunter and get Joe elected, it begins to be exposed.

Number two. Will make the determination on how to handle this case. And I respect that. I respect D.A. Bragg's job and what he has to do.

That's the mayor, Adams. Manslaughter. Daniel Penny faced up to 10 years in prison. Why? The subway chokehold death of Jordan Neely.

Manhattan DA confirms he's turning himself in and has. After weeks of protest, don't expect anyone to step up again, ever, if you're in trouble. Number Will you be on shaky legal ground though with mass releases? Your question has a factual predicate with which I would disagree. about mass releases number one.

It is mass releases. I don't care if you don't like the facts, Mr. Mayorkis. Disaster in every way. A massive humanity from dozens of countries is flooding our southern border right now.

It's impossible to keep up. It's impossible to process. It's impossible to screen. America is essentially being invaded intentionally or not. President Biden's policies are 100% to blame.

This is a domestic version of Biden's evacuation of Afghanistan. And what they're referring to, Geraldo, with the legal background, a judge stopped, gave a two-week stay, a pause, on allowing these illegals to cross over and not be processed. We're not even, it's so busy. These centers are so overcrowded. They want to be able to tell people: just come back on your own and report to ICE.

And a judge says you can't do that. Welcome, Heraldo. Hi, Brian. Disturbing situation at the border, and I agree with you. I think that it is President Biden's.

uh con uh compassion, his kindness. Has foreseeably backfired the wrong message, exactly the wrong message, was sent by President Biden. The huddled masses yearning to breathe free.

So everybody wants to be in America, particularly people who live on the margins in countries in Central America, in the Caribbean, West Africa, South America. And the world's on the move. The poor migrants are heading this way. They hear from President Biden that it was a compassionate, open country. Come on down, and the results have been predictably catastrophic.

Yeah, and you're a nice person, and you wanted to see everyone be healthy and have a shot of the American dream. But there'll be no American dream if we just open up the border. And after 50 years in office of all different presidents and different parties in power, it's totally irresponsible and inexcusable for him to allow what's taking place to take place, to have an hour meeting with the Mexican president and not walk out with 20,000 Marines on the southern border like Trump did, not come out with a Remain in Mexico policy, not threaten to. Tariffs, if so be it, not go up to Guatemala and say, listen, you're going to lose your incentives and your aid if you don't crack down on your own. cartels who are luring your people out and all the way down through.

Do you know the Guatemalan President told Bill Melusian they found out that he's been trying to reach the White House because eighty thousand people are passing through his country and they wanted to alert him. And they said the Guatemalan President said, I can't get anyone to return my call. I believe that you hit the nail on the head again, Brian, that the situation in Mexico particularly. Mexico, uh you know, there's a fifteen hundred mile walk between Guatemala and uh El Taso. Uh that's fifteen hundred miles of Mexico that has to be tra uh traversed by the the hordes of people coming.

Mexico under Trump was motivated by fear and self-interest to cooperate and to do the best they could to stop the flow of migrants to the United States through Mexico. That policy has been totally abandoned. You're right. Biden has been ineffectual in terms of getting Mexico to do its job, to police its own border. Mexico is in a malevolent way is self-interested.

The Mexican cartels are profiting enormously. When you look at the hordes of migrants, just think $8,000, $10,000 per head for the cartel for them to get the right to ride that train from the southern part of Mexico to the border. It is a vast industry from Mexico's point of view. The only way to get Mexico to motivate is to use trade to make a stranglehold on that trade, make Mexico feel that it is in their self-interest to help us. You know, take chaos and make order.

The one thing I would disagree with you on, Brian, I think that big picture, long-term, the United States is at nearly full employment now, 3.4% unemployment rate. These folks are demonstrating with their feet, with their courage, that they are the kind of people that we want in the United States, hardworking, ambitious. But I did, but in some cases, and I see these women with kids, and I get it. They're just trying to make a better life. Their country's terrible or run down.

And someone gives word that this is the only time to get to America, so give up everything and go and sell everything and move. And they do. But I also talked to a military veteran in El Paso, and he told me that I talk to these guys every day. And a lot of them are all tatted up, and a lot of them are from the prisons, Venezuelan in particular, and they are mixed in. Also, there was a time when you first started at Fox where we pretty much knew it was going to be Hispanics.

We just didn't know what country.

Now we find out, Representative Turkey, India, Angola, Jamaica, Afghanistan, Russia, Guinea, Pakistan, Kazakhstan. This all yesterday reported to Bill Melusian. All these nationalities have crossed our border. Uzbekistan. Mauritania, Ecuador, Brazil, China, and mostly Peru.

And get this, a thousand Chinese dressed like suburban Families crossing the border. What's going on here? I I I see Again, there's the short term, the chaos, the disorder, sorting good from bad, and all the rest of that process. Long term, I see future Americans. Russia is losing population.

It's bigger than the United States geographic list. I think we're having two conversations. I think I want to have more immigrants, but they've got to be screened. They have to be screened. We have to know who's here.

I agree with that. But I also point out that there has never been a successful penetration of our southern border by a terrorist, as far as we know, ever. Ever. I mean, there are people on terror watch lists and so forth that there's no ISIS, there's no al-Qaeda. As far as I know, there never has been.

I went out and looked at the border many, many times. But I'm talking about terrorists, but this is just not the way you do. And Biden is responsible for the people. Peraldo, people would love to stay in your house in Ohio.

So why can't they come and stay with you? All these people. Because you have a nice house and they're nice people. You can't do it that way. That's not the way our country works.

My Afghan driver. Where am I going to put them?

Well, listen, stop complaining. You've got to open up your heart. America is for everybody. Bring your huddled masses. Everyone, bring your huddled masses to my house and Araldo's house.

Araldo, I could not be more. I believe we're going to equate this to a domestic version of the way we left Afghanistan: ineptness, irresponsibility, and indifference. And another case in point is this. I don't defend Biden at all. I think President Biden has done exactly the wrong thing.

Where he should have been stern, he was compassionate and welcoming. He gave ambiguous messages. He is to blame for this. You know, Afghanistan, we can have another conversation about that. But I agree.

The question is: what do you do right at this minute? How can we deal with all those people? I mean, what's going to happen when you look at those? Tina wire, the s barbed wire that the Texas National Guard has erected. What happens when the first infant slips from the mother's clutches and is in the river and drowning in the river?

I mean, how are we going to feel about that? I mean, it's a it's a real situation. We have to deal with the crisis we have to deal with, Brian. I want to talk about something else.

So Daniel Penny, who plays lacrosse, you can relate to, lives on Long Island, you can relate to, 24 years old, serves in the military. And I just they just wrote his record down. He got uh He's gotten two here it is. He has gotten the Good Conduct Medal. He's got the National Defense Service Medal, the Global War on Terrorist Service Need.

So he served four years right out of high school after starring. I know a few people that went to school with him, starring as a lacrosse player.

So after serving our country, sitting on a subway, they said this guy was out of Jordan Neely, was out of control for a little while. And then when he finally got threatening, is when he stepped up, put him in a chokehold or a submission hold, and held it too long. And about 45 minutes ago, he was just checking in and reporting into the Fifth District of the Fifth Precinct because he has been charged with second degree manslaughter. And now they have 20 days with these new bad laws to put together a case against him. If you are his attorney, do you could you feel confident you're going to get a fair trial?

First of all, you're absolutely right. I would totally identify with him. If I was his age, I would have played lacrosse against him. I think he's from where? West Iceland?

Yep. West Babylon, same league. I sympathize with him 100%. I thank him for his service to the country. He did exactly what I would have done if Jordan Neely was on my train scaring people.

A guy with an outstanding arrest warrant for assaulting a 67-year-old woman. 44 arrests. Exactly the kind of terrorist that has really made the subways perilous for people. The problem is, it's just as an experienced fighter, you know and I know there's such a thing as tapping out. You know, you've got to know at what point.

I mean, I've been in bar fights, you start hitting someone, and at some point you've got to stop because you already accomplished what your goal is.

Now, what you know, why keep it? We held it too long, you're saying, obviously. We held it too long. It was self-defense until it wasn't self-defense. But let me ask you something.

I wonder if they have the whole video, because we only see the beginning and the end. But did you notice, and I think this is important, you as a lawyer, did you notice there's two other guys who are holding his arms? And wouldn't you think that logically that's because he was probably pounding on him and they said, let me go grab his arm? There were other people, other passengers on that train who felt as he did, as Perry did, that this was a menace. This guy was a menace, particularly to the women on the train.

You know, we punched a 60-year-old, 67-year-old woman. I believe that citizens have the duty to protect their fellow citizens. The problem is, and you talk about the bystanders, someone said, dude, You know, you're gonna face a murder rep if you don't ease up. I mean, it wasn't like uh they didn't. I didn't hear that.

Yeah, there it's on the tape. One guy says it on the tape. I d you know, you you're gonna face a murder rap. Uh you he should have you know, I I don't know w a chokehold is different than everything else. It cuts off the blood to the brain, and then and death is the result.

It's first is unconsciousness and then comes death. Uh 'cause the bl the brain is deprived of oxygen and and blood. Uh you know, so once you employ a tactic like that, you have to know what the end result is. This is not a punch in the face. This is a move that you use with deadly force on an enemy in a combat situation.

You know, you got to know when to ease up. You got to know when to tap out. You got to know when up is enough. In a way. But when you're in a situation where you feel as though multiple lives are threatened, it's easy to sit back.

Now, if you went around Bernie Goetz down and started shooting people. No, I interviewed Bernard Goetz. I was the one that got the exclusive interview with him. Right, but I'm just saying, when there's no gun. When you got those four black kids.

Right.

Well, there's no gun. There's a guy saying, I want to get this guy to calm down. No, Bernie Goetz was acquitted. Remember, he was only convicted of the illegal gun possession. Right.

He was acquitted on the attempted murder or or the you know, he was a lot of attempted murder. This guy dies, but he he was in a submission hold. But it wasn't a submission hold. It was a kill hold. When you do that with the one forearm under the chin and the other arm levering I don't think it is.

It's submission for the first twenty seconds Then it gets a little gray area, then it's clearly beyond the pale.

Well, there's no one we can stop it. I think that he's lucky it's Mirand Slaughter, too. And I think that he'll argue self-defense, and everybody that ever got scared on the subway, they're on the jury, they'll vote to acquit him. They better. They better, because if you're going to go up there and it's going to be the Wild West, you can't all of a sudden put rules down.

And when you look at this guy's background, which I know is legally, I don't know if it enters a case, and you say, could he potentially have done stuff? Oh, absolutely. Can you march some people here that he punched and beat up and stole? How about the family of the seven-year-old kid he tried to kidnap? This guy was a menace.

Nobody knew his record when this action was taken. I mean, it's in retrospect. But then when I said, did he do just, was he right to take the action he did? Go, well, look at his track record. Yes, he was right to do the action he did until he wasn't right.

Araldo, have a great weekend.

Okay, bro. Thanks so much, man.

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We know that this document exists. The FBI knows we know the document exists. And instead of answering that simple question as to whether or not they have investigated this allegation, and what their findings were. They simply explained to us what the document was and were very patronizing as to why we didn't need to worry about the document. To trust them, they would look into it.

Uh that was James Comer. Uh James Comer weighing in on the investigation. on the Biden family business. We now know. Romania, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Moscow, Mayor, China, all part of the family business.

We know the grandchildren benefited. We know the f the ex-wife benefited of Hunter Biden. We know Hunter Biden suddenly has no money. And that is revealed in the twenty sixteen emails that go back and forth talking about a deal. That he got with Romania.

And the lawyer is finding out because representing the soon-to-be ex-wife of Hunter Biden. Said, yeah, you just got paid $150,000. I'd like half of it. What is taking so long to put into her account, Haley's account?

So that helps them put this thing together. Who gave the money? And by the way, what service did they provide? How about access and the influence of the dad who was senator, vice president, and now president? Your cause next.

From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmead. He said for a four-hour interview, Jesse, and he further confirmed that this thing was all political. Understand that Tony Blinken first contacts Mike Morrell and says, Oh, what do you think about this laptop issue? And then Blinken later that same day, October 17, 2020, sends Mike Morrell the USA Today article, the story. That story gets put in the very letter that John Brennan, Mike Morrell, and 49 other former Intel officials sign on to.

So, yeah, we expect, we expect, Mr. Goldman talked about public servants. We expect public servants not to use their title to influence an election. And it was so political when it was all done. This talking point they wanted to give Joe Biden for that final debate with President Trump.

It was so political. After that debate's over, The campaign calls up Mr. Morrell, thanks him for it. He gets an atta boy from Steve Roschetti, chairman of the Biden campaign. And no one can recount events like Jim Jordan.

I think he's got a photographic memory. But basically, the thing that really destroyed the laptop's credibility and backed up social media shelving it was those 51 names. And now we find out that the communication in black and white and in an email was Morell to Brennan. Hey, would you sign on to this? I certainly will.

Thank you for your efforts. And he did it. Not checking, not finding out from Joe Biden if this was actually your son's laptop, just signing off. And Mike Morrell, behind closed doors, not denied, said my objective was to help Joe Biden and give him a talking point in the talking point in the debate, which most people thought he was going to get destroyed. Later on, with that debate, you talk about unfortunate.

Later on, we would find out that Donald Trump actually had COVID at the time. He flew in, beginning to have the symptoms, extremely aggravated. And then the one moment where it said, hey, your son, laptop, the deals, back up exactly what Rudy Giuliani was pursuing in the Ukraine. Turns out, no, it's not true. And it caught Trump totally by surprise.

And then when it comes to. Why did you sign on to this? These people are not being forced to answer those questions. I imagine behind closed doors, in very measured terms, John Brennan admitted he never looked at the laptop. He just did it to help hurt a guy he hated and hated him, Donald Trump.

I mean, John Brennan was part of the whole Russia, Russia, Russia. Hoax that destroyed or certainly hampered two and a half years of the Trump administration. John Brennan was sitting there as an analyst on MSNBC just railing against Trump. He's a Russian asset. James Clapper, next week, he'll go in and try to defend his signature on that very forum.

It's crazy. Here's more from Mike Johnson on the meeting yesterday. Cut 29. Emerging from that long discussion with Mr. Brennan was a further confirmation to us that this really was a political operation from the get-go.

I would say overall he was guarded in his responses, which is what you would expect from an intelligence official. But I would say I was not satisfied with the answers provided today. We think there's a lot more to this, and I think the investigation will show that as we go forward. It's just amazing that you work your whole life for some degree of credibility and you just give it up for Joe Biden. Here's uh more from Jim Jordan, Cut 27.

We ask him about what took place in the publication review board where it looks like someone based on what Mr. Carrions, another individual who signed that letter, who had a different matter pending in front of that review board, gets called in October by that review board and they said, your book is fine. Oh, by the way, would you like to sign on to this letter?

So a current employee of the CIA was actively soliciting people to sign on to this letter that was used in a total political fashion with all their names associated.

So Joe Biden would have a talking point in the debate. Why do you need a talking point if the laptop's not real? If it's all fake and Russian information, why would you need the talking point? And I keep going back to this. If you catch someone lying right to your face, and then you continue to have a relationship with that person, in the back of your mind, I said to myself, okay, what does he look like, or she, but what does he look like when he's lying to me?

Joe Biden looked into the camera and said fifty-one Intel officials said that it was not my son's laptop. That it was classic Russian disinformation. He flat out lied he knew it. And all all these fifty-one had to do with All these 51 had to do was make a call to anybody who was. Who was on there?

You know, I guess could, and Devin Archer. I would just call Joe Biden. Hey, Joe, before I sign my name. Is it your son's laptop? Because I'm going to put my 30 years of credibility on the line.

Oh, you're not sure? All right, you don't mind if I stay out of this, do you?

Okay, fine.

So, what I also find interesting, and I alluded to this before, between 2016 and 2017, Hunter Biden was getting divorced. I wonder why. Was it the crack? Was it the guns? Was it him dating the widow of Bo?

Who knows? But he's getting divorced, and he's got this attorney named Rebecca Sullivan.

So, they're trying to figure out how Haley is going to survive because Hunter's saying he has no money, evidently.

So, all of a sudden, From Hunting's abandoned laptop, we're able to reconstruct a divorce conversation.

Now, I don't want to know his personal stuff, but I would like to know where money is.

So Hunter and his ex wife were aware of payments from a Romanian deal, and discussed how it should be divided among the two parties, since they are now separating. Buell, which is her maiden name, was one of several Biden family members, including Haley Biden, who received foreign money, and that Hunter received over one million from Romania.

So they're asking. Where is the money? Why is it not in my T D bank account? And I bring ye to this. We don't have Joe Biden directly involved in this.

But Joe Biden is all over this. And the question is, why is the FBI not turning over the document that would reveal. That Joe Biden arranged some of this. That's according to the whistleblower. And profited so Some of our foreign policy with access to these foreign leaders and foreign business people.

So they asked for this certain document, and they said And Chris Ray says, Yeah, we're not going to give it to you.

So I know you got to give it to us. And he says, No, we got to give it. You know why? Because when we took that in, we couldn't verify it. But if whistleblower goes forward, we take down everything they're saying.

But since we can't verify it, I can't put it out there in the bloodstream.

So they're dying they're denying, I think, 88-year-old Senator Grassley, hardly a political firebrand. You're not asking to give it to Ted Cruz. But a very measured guy. Who by the way just recently said something interesting As I watch Donald Trump's interviews, he keeps saying the same thing over and over again. I need to know what he's going to do.

I don't want to hear about 2020.

So he has no problem taking on his party. And the FBI continues to say, yeah, we're not giving this over. And why is the DOJ not interested? Over 100. Uh of red flags about banking with countries that are on Looked at his enemy of America with the Hunter Biden series 20 businesses that he had.

So over a hundred times. Why wouldn't the FPAR go, you know, I got to look into this? This guy's already on a weapons charge. This guy's already on tax evasion. We already fined him $2 million.

So let's find out what else he's up to. And if it was anybody on the other side, believe me, this would be a long-drawn-out investigation. Instead, it's a long-drawn-out investigation, maybe until. Until the election's over on Hunter Biden. Which means to me they know.

That it links back to Joe.

So, the other big story is the debt ceiling. And the market went down yesterday because the debt ceiling talks were delayed. They were supposed to have other principal meetings. But actually, if you read the story, the staffers are making progress with Republicans and Democrats coming up with some type of way to lift the debt ceiling, which you would think is a red flag to make some cuts and be more responsible when it comes to spending. and cutting.

So they're working together, and now they're making more progress. And it looks like next Tuesday, Joe Biden's calling for another meeting among the principals.

So they're getting things done. The other thing is, I got to salute the House. The House came up and took the challenge. The Joe Biden said, Hey, guys, why don't you pass a series of criteria, a bill, that's your image of what would happen to raise the debt ceiling? What do you need me to do?

So he thought he's got four, you know, he's got four votes. He's got four votes to lose. He's never going to be able to pass it. Captain McCarthy passed it.

So then you have Maeorcus. Coming out and saying this. about blaming Congress For the problems going on at the border, cut two. Our current situation is the outcome of Congress leaving a broken, Outdated immigration system in place for over two decades, despite unanimous agreement that we desperately need legislative reform. It is also the result of Congress's decision not to provide us with the resources we need and that we requested.

Not true. You wanted 87,000 IRS agents, but you didn't want 87,000 Border Patrol. House approved yesterday, took the challenge to bolster border security, finish the border wall, and hire thousands of agents as Title 42 expires. 219 to 213, they approved the Secure and Border Act. Only two Republicans voted against it.

It was Tom Massey and God never heard of John Duarte. But they did it.

So now it's up to the Senate to do something to somebody at some point.

So it's up to them White House to do something at the border. to stop over a hundred countries from sending their citizens who may or may not be Anybody we want in our country. who aren't being screened. We have no idea. Who they are.

So the debt ceiling deal, Kevin McCarthy's there. When it comes to immigration, Kev McCarthy had one of his first big meetings as speaker at the border. You know who doesn't go to the border? The Vice President. You know who could distinguish themselves and be in uh be get their elbows dirty and dig in on this border security bill?

The Vice President, you know who desperately needs a facelift? And an image redo? The Vice President. And where is she? Waiting for another uprising and Capitol being stormed in Nashville, maybe?

Or maybe waiting for another abortion speech where she talks about the glory of having an abortion?

Nowhere to be found. Evidently, there's a political report that Joe Biden keeps blowing up because nothing's changing at the border and he's losing it and then he quickly apologizes. You're not ch demanding any change. Trump fired two or three people, got criticized for it because they weren't pressuring Mexico, they weren't pressuring Ecuador, they weren't pressuring Guatemala, they weren't all over Panama. And when they pressured when the pressure actually resulted In less traffic, he restored their aid.

and backed off when it came to tariffs. You do that, Mr. President. You're created executive orders, aren't you? We come back, Jack Keene.

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So glad you're here. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmead. Hey, welcome back everybody. You know, I always love talking to General Jack Keene, especially every Friday we do at Unboxing Friends.

Remember to bring the highlights and make my military segments better. Kind of interesting to talk to General Jack when it came to public knowledge that it looks as though Jake Sullivan met with his counterpart in China, actually in Vienna. But with his Chinese counterpart.

Now, they have not spoken since the Chinese spy balloon. Believe it or not, we are telling them we have to get over it. That we're going to get over the Chinese spy balloon. Excuse me. You.

So you had you flew it over our country, and now you're telling them to get over it? We are just begging for these meetings.

So it took place over the course of four hours.

So I asked General Jack Keene, and he is Fox's senior strategic analyst when it comes to all things military. Here's the four star general talking about China and a little Ukraine. General, do you like the tone and circumstances that led to this meeting?

Well, I think we're very anxious to renew the communication after the Chinese is pretty rich. I mean, the Chinese did one of the most aggressive acts I've ever seen, penetrated United States airspace for an entire week and Broke off communications with us as a result of it, and they pout for a number of months. We're anxious to get back into negotiations with them. I do believe we should talk to each other. We did that with the Soviet Union for years.

But what my concern is, it's the Chinese aggression that is destabilizing the relationship between ourselves and China and also in the region. And it's China's support of Russia, who has invaded Ukraine, an illegal invasion of an independent democratic country. And you can see China's aggression being played out every single day in the region. That is the destabilizing factor. And if we go in there and we're firm with them and lay out our cards in terms of what they're doing to get the response that we have, then that's okay.

But we shouldn't be showing weakness because we know. What the reality is, when you show weakness, you get more aggression. And certainly, we've got to put on the table, Brian, the precursor chemicals that they're shoving into Mexico that is killing tens of thousands of Americans in this country on a regular basis. Those are the issues that we need to put in front of them. Their aggression, their desire to undermine the United States and their penetration of our society in such a comprehensive manner, it's the number one target we have ever faced in the history of the country.

General, there's a fundamental misunderstanding with this administration and how we handle our enemies. They want to show an openness and an approach that our enemies look at as weakness. And then begging to send our Secretary of State to China, you might want the result, but how we get there is going to put us on our back foot. We're never going to get the results. Let's fast forward over to Ukraine, where we understand there were going to be the surge, expected surge is on hold.

The offensive counteroffensive is on hold. But there are reporting of some Ukrainian gains in Bakhmud already, and some of the some there's a sense that maybe the Russians are pulling out. I doubt if they're going to pull out, but listen, this has been an absolute nightmare for the Russians and the Wagner group. Yes, they're mercenary private firms, so so to speak. Why?

Because for over nine months, they have wanted to take this city, a small one at that, with no military value, as as a symbol of their success in Ukraine. After multiple failures in Ukraine, and they have not been able to do it. And now the Ukrainians are conducting some. Local counterattacks that are being successful. That's what's happened here.

This is not the beginning of the Ukrainian offensive, which the head of the Wagner Group is claiming. He's only doing that because he's had abject failure here as well. The Ukrainians are not going to give up Baghmut. I don't think the Russians are going to pull out of there either. It has too much symbolic value to them, and they have created that value themselves.

Yes, it's got to be a big summer for Ukraine if they're going to have success. And it does seem like the Russians who have to repurpose their museum tanks and bring back World War two tanks, that's how low they're getting with their ammunition and their weaponry. General, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Yeah, you guys have a great weekend.

Thank you. You too. That was General Jack Keene.

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So here we go. A study of 2,000 adults in the UK discovered that 56% of those in local online groups encounter sniping and mudslinging, with 34% described it as pure entertainment. Additionally, 47% have shared information with friends and family about certain posts because they were either outrageous or amusing. 31% of adults are friends with neighbors on Facebook, while only 70% follow at least one Instagram. The study commissioned by mobile network GiftGap.

To examine the level of community spirit in the UK, also found that one in 20 participants cannot remember the last time they spoke to their neighbor. Face to face. That's a problem everywhere, I guess. Is that for you? I don't e I don't know, I don't talk to them.

I guess that is.

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Mentioned my anniversary, put it together, 11 seconds. I might have to start using this for you. But for me to be high and mighty, what about Hallmark? Those aren't my words either. From Hayatop Fox News headquarters in New York City.

Always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Brian Kilmead here. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kilmeat Show. We're coming to you from 48 and 6 in Midtown Manhattan, where all the action is.

Molly Hemingway in studio, we always love that. And Daryl Johnson, the Dallas Cowboy legend, three-time Super Bowl champion, running the USFL, also outstanding broadcaster from Fox Sports. The schedule is released.

Some big games are on the docket, some big moves. I got to get Daryl Johnson on that. And we also got to hear from you. Uh so before we get to Molly Hemingway, let's get to the big three.

Now with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. This thing was all political. Understand that Tony Blinken first contacts Mike Morrell and says, oh, what do you think about this laptop issue? That story gets put in the very letter that John Brennan, Mike Morrell, and 49 other former Intel officials sign on to.

Jim Jordan breaking down what really led up to the release of that letter that said it was classic Russian disinformation. More proof. The Intel, the press, and the DOJ are in bed with Biden as John Brennan goes behind closed doors for four hours and we get more on the plot to protect Hunter and the Biden family. Number two. The D8.

Will make the determination on how to handle this case. And I respect that. I respect D.A. Bragg's job and what he has to do. And he did.

Manslaughter. Daniel Penny is to face 10 years in prison. Why? The subway chokehold death of Jordan Ely, a perennial criminal. Manhattan DA confirms he is turning himself in and has, in weeks of protest, don't expect anyone to step up again in a subway should anyone be in trouble.

That's what you get. Number one. Will you be on shaky label ground, though, with mass releases? Your question has a factual predicate with which I would disagree about mass releases. Number one, I wouldn't.

Disaster in every way. A massive humanity from dozens of countries is flooding our southern border right now. It's impossible to keep up with the impossible process and impossible to screen. America is essentially being invaded, intentionally or not. President Biden's policies are 100% to blame.

This is a domestic version of Biden's evacuation of Afghanistan. Molly, what the hell is going on at the southern border? Great to see you, by the way. Great to see you. And it shouldn't be surprising to anyone, when Biden ran for office, he announced that he would open up the border.

You actually started seeing floods of immigrants coming. Before he even was inaugurated, we've had six million illegal aliens entering the country under Biden's, more than six million under Biden's administration. And now, We have this end of Title 42, which was the only means by which we were keeping any kind of lid on what was happening. It's ending. But this is not a serious country.

Like, we are not a serious country if we don't have borders and we don't have borders. Right.

And right now, I can't believe the United Nations is coming through our borders. Got a thousand Chinese, Kazakhstan. You have Pakistan. I couldn't believe. I mean, look at these countries that have been represented.

According to the Border Patrol, it was telling Phil Malusian.

So you have Turkey, India, Angola, Jamaica, Afghanistan, Russia, Guinea, and Pakistan. These are where these people are coming from. Ecuador, Uzbekistan, Georgia, Brazil. In China, as well as mostly from Peru, get this, mostly from Peru on Thursday. I mean, why not?

What are they doing?

So, I mean, this is a wonderful country. There are many opportunities here. Of course, people want to come from all over the world. It is our job to make sure that we are interested in how our country operates and how our different classes of people operate. Like, this type of flooding of the borders is a great way to harm the most marginalized among us, to decrease the wages of the lower classes.

That's why you care about these things and just having any kind of national security concern. Who knows who's flooding across the border in terms of terrorist threats or other security threats? And more than anything, too, we are enabling a horrific humanitarian crisis because the cartels are the ones actually running who gets to come over and who doesn't. They're very bad criminal organizations. There's sexual abuse, there's violence, the drug trafficking.

It's just a horrific humanitarian crisis.

Well, finally, something else is playing out. It's states against the federal government. We literally have the Texas special forces moving in, putting up razor wire, pushing people out of the country while the Border Patrol sits in their green uniform and says, I really can't do that with you. When is that? How is that going to coexist?

I mean, this could become quite hot quite quickly. It's not the first time the federal government has told, or you know, that there's been this conflict when Arizona tried to enforce some kind of border structure. The federal government took it down. The federal government, under Joe Biden, wants this invasion. The states have to deal with it.

The cities have to deal with it. And all of the repercussions of having this flood and the government. Why do they want this? Unless you're anti-American. Why would you want this?

Well, I think it does serve some interests. Like decreasing wages of lower class workers can serve upper class people. You actually have heard some people say this in testimony on the Hill, where they say, well, if we don't allow a flood of illegal immigrants, who's going to clean my house? That's what Nancy Pelosi actually said. It's just they say the thing that you think they might be thinking out loud, and you realize they really have this horrific view.

Not just, I mean, it's also just a horrific view of our own Americans who do not have the same stock tips that Nancy Pelosi.

So when I read in Politico that the president's losing his temper and has exploded a few times, saying, how come nothing's getting better, nothing's getting done, and then apologizes later, is that all show? Is that like a leak that seems Joe Biden is exasperated? Because Trump was volatile about it, too. Fix this. You're fired.

Get somebody else in here. Yeah, it does sound like it just doesn't sound true because when he's been asked point blank what he thinks about this, he has openly stated his desire for just wide open borders. I do think there is a truth, though, that. Yeah. One gets the feeling that Joe Biden's not the person running the country.

He doesn't seem to have the mental illness. It can't be Susan Rice anymore. No, it's probably a team of people, but I don't think he really knows what's going on. I don't think he really. I don't think he has the capabilities.

He's beyond that. Unbelievable if that is indeed the case. And of course, we've heard those rumors. I've told you about what's happening in Texas. What about what's happening in New York?

Mayor Eric Adams has accepted 60,000 people in his sanctuary city here, 127 separate hotels, eight separate emergency facilities.

Now they're going to convert a hangar at JFK Airport, which I don't have been at JFK. Look around. There's nothing there.

So after you get off your cot, after sleeping your eight hours, what are you doing during the day?

So after that, he says, I'm going to start shipping him to counties. The surrounding counties of Westchester, Rockland, Orange, soon is going to be Nassau and Savik. Excuse me, they're not sanctuary counties. He is doing this without even telling, doing deals with hotels and shipping them out after they get to the Port Authority. Think about this.

The mayor is going after county executives while the governor and the president sit back. It's chaos. It's chaos. And by the way, did you hear Joe Biden say yesterday that it was gonna be more chaos? Which you know, he just doesn't even seem to be caring about it at all.

But this type of shipping Illegal immigrants around the country is what we've been going through for years. And a lot of the communities that have had to absorb this are quiet, rural communities in the middle of the country. And now that the problem is facing cities like Chicago or Washington, D.C., or New York City, now you're starting to see even. Fairly left-wing Democrat mayors talk about what a crisis it is. But there's no need for any of this to happen.

Again, if we were a serious country, we would enforce our borders. We would understand that borders are actually what make a country, and it would be a much better process for managed immigration of the type that most Americans support.

So, Todd Bensman's at the border for us, and I guess he's ruined for himself too, but he's been on our channel a lot. He's with the Center for Immigration Studies, and this is what he's seeing at the border in Texas. Cut 10. Mexican immigration officers would station themselves behind me. Right at the water's edge, and kind of persuade people to the large crowds of people to just hold back, hold back.

Your time will come, your time will come. And then, at some mysterious signal, all of a sudden they would be signaled and they'd all stand up and rush down to the river and cross maybe a 150 at a time. And then they would get back in and cut them off. And when I asked what that was all about, The immigration officers explained that the DHS, Border Patrol on the other side, was communicating with their supervisors about when they're ready for them. And then, when they're ready, they say, Send them over.

We're ready to have them over. We process the last batch, bring them in. They would swim across. This went on all day, all night, for two weeks straight. Does that astound you, Molly?

It's just Amazing. I mean, I I'd heard someone say too recently that this is the largest Influx of illegal immigrants to any country in human history. This type of flood that's just coming in. But Again, I guess we shouldn't be surprised because day one of the Biden administration, they set about to take away any of the protections that had been built up of the border that had been built up over the previous four years. It was systematic, it was deliberate, and this itself is not a surprise.

The end of Title 42 is not a surprise. There's been no preparation for it because this is actually the goal of the Biden administration to have this type of influx. I don't know. Do you think every, I just can't believe it. It's like saying, would you, is your goal to lose by when you go to play hockey, lose by 14 goals?

Because it's not even clear anymore that the Hispanics coming over will vote Democrat. Because we're seeing the Hispanic vote bleed into the Republican column because they don't like this.

So I thought that's almost like an old theory that didn't hold up.

Well, I think there are bigger issues in play about a desire to. Change the nature of the country to have a much greater welfare-type state to grow the bureaucracy to just fundamentally change the nature of the country and how we understand what it means to be American. I mean, a lot of people are coming here because they do know it's a land of opportunity. A lot of people come because we have a really extensive welfare state that burdens the people who are working legally. But, you know, I just want to say one other thing, which is the American people have been pretty clear about wanting.

Border security. It was actually a huge issue in the 2016 election. It's why Donald Trump won the primary. It's a big part of why he won the eventual presidency. And people in both parties kind of talk a game about how they're going to do something to control the border.

The American people have been really clear for decades that they want something done. And people in both parties have not done what the American people have wanted. That creates a bigger disconnect between the establishment and the people, and it can cause all sorts of problems. I have. Zero criticism of the President of the border, the former President, Trump, because he did everything possible to the point where he was getting criticism for firing people, pushing people.

And when he gets $1.8 billion to build a wall, and that's going to build about 100 miles.

So he ended up repurposing, I think it was Jared Kushner's idea, the The fence banning.

So he rebuilt or added 450 miles of wall. They say 52 was new, but when you have a split rail fence, I don't consider that a wall.

So he's building it across. If he got four more years, I think he would have probably, we paid for about 600, and it's just rotting in the desert, which is just crazy. And I think if you look at Center Cinemas and there's no. There's no plan here. Senator Manchin, there's absolutely no plan here.

Henry Coyar, there's no plan here. Governor Hobbes, who seems to be, I don't know much about her except she's way to the left, she's saying that I can't get a response from the Biden administration. The president of Guatemala said I have 80,000 people passing through my country. I can't get a return phone call from the administration. That's nuts.

And that's some of the worst things because border walls are important or fine, but so much of what needs to be done to control the border requires working with those countries south of our border to make sure that they are not encouraging and facilitating this type of invasion. Yeah, here's Lindsey Graham, Cut 17. What you heard today was political BS. They're not changing the policies in any way to deter anybody from coming. I promise you this.

Nobody headed to America is going to turn around because what Secretary Mariker said. Nobody is going to turn around because they know what he said is all BS. The traffickers, the cartels heard today, business as usual. Right, because he keeps saying the border is closed, and it's not. And it's such an insult.

Then he asks, so interesting. He said, Congress do something, and the House just passed the hardest border legislation. Oh, yeah, remember the President Biden said, yeah, House, do something. They just passed what it would take to raise the debt ceiling. The House is stepping up with the four-point, with the four-vote margin.

I think people should pause and reflect on this. Yeah, just what a miracle this is. People are so used to Republicans disappointing them when they get power. They have the tiniest, slimmest of majorities, and they're doing amazing work. And now this is the second time that they have called Biden's bluff.

Biden says he doesn't need to do anything because he doubts the Republicans who control the House will pass anything. They did it with the debt ceiling. They raised the debt ceiling limit, totally destroying his claim that he could not, he wouldn't negotiate with. Them because they wouldn't get anything done.

Now they've done it again with the border. I'm sure they will return to disappointing Americans shortly, but it's like. Going on for months now that they have managed to stick together and get some really good stuff done. I want to come back in so I don't take up too much of the next segment. Do you have another segment in you, Molly?

Or do you have to run? Yes, I'm good. Because I don't take rejection well.

So if you do blow me off, it's going to hurt. I'm going to pretend like it doesn't hurt, but it will really hurt me. Which I should have during rehearsal, I should have probably asked that. 1866-408-7669. Talk a little football in fifteen minutes.

Back in five minutes. Molly Hemingway, don't move. Expanding your knowledge base. It's the Brian Kill Meet Show. A talk show that's real.

This is the Brian Kill Me Show. That man you were so upset to hear from last night, he may be president of the United States in less than two years. And that audience that upset you, that's a sampling of about half the country. They are your family members, your neighbors, and they are voting. And many said they're voting for him.

Now, maybe you haven't been paying attention to him since he left office. Maybe you've been enjoying not hearing from him, thinking it can't happen again.

Some investigation is going to stop him.

Well, it hasn't so far.

So, if last night showed anything, it showed it can happen again. It is happening again. He hasn't changed, and he is running hard. You have every right to be outraged today and angry and never watch this network again. But do you think staying in your silo and only listening to people you agree with is going to make that person go away?

That is Anderson Cooper the day after the big town hall with Donald Trump and Caitlin. Uh Collins. Um is it Collins? Yeah, Caitlin Collins doesn't sound right. Molly Hemingway here.

Molly, the aftermath, the backlash that CNN's experiencing, even though they got 3.2 million people. Uh I'm astounded. Are you? It's an added bonus.

So the town hall itself was talking. That is the funniest thing I've heard in a really long time. It's so condescending to his audience, too. Like, of course, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination is someone that any legitimate news organization should be dealing with quite regularly. That you have to gently talk to your audience and explain why that's significant.

Or how cloistered are they that they don't know people who like Donald Trump? There are tens of millions of people who are super fans of this guy. And if you don't know any of them, you're living in a really sheltered, naive place. But It was a reminder of how effective the left has been at silencing not just Trump, but a lot of conservative voices, where they just, you know, keep them from being able to talk. And then, you know, it had been years since we'd seen Donald Trump in that kind of environment, and it had this.

Weird effect of being like really refreshing and interesting. You liked it. Yeah, and if you'd heard it every day, you might have been like, I'm sick of this. But hearing it after a few years off, you're like, oh, this is why people like it.

Well, the Trump team is really happy. About the way it went. And Trump is really happy. He said, CNN did a good thing having me on. And remember, they loved him in 2015.

He was doing their shows, calling into every show with CNN. He went, You want me on? I'm coming on. I'm coming on. And then all of a sudden, when he became the nominee and it got closer and closer, in come the Russia investigation, it became pretty clear that, and Hillary Clinton's investigation goes by the boards, this is not going to be easy.

And then they totally turned on him for the next four years. It didn't just turn, but they became out-and-out propaganda. They were a major player in the Russia collusion hoax, the made-up story that Trump was a traitor who had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. And now they have him back on. I mean, this $3.1 million is like the biggest ratings they've had in a very long time.

It's like an afternoon rating. Here's how they blew it, Molly. If they showed an openness to hearing what he had to say, because the reason why he's gaining popularity, almost all of his policies have been reversed and they're all not working.

So it is a very different situation than 2020. Yeah. People can kind of say, okay, I remember 2016 to 2020. We had no new wars breaking out. We had wages increasing.

Border, 450,000. And so now you've got a little bit of experience of what it's like to have Democrats in power. And it's not going well for the country. It's not going well for paychecks or people's bottom line. All of a sudden, it seems much more refreshing to have good governance.

And if you want to know what really happened behind the scenes at the election, picked up Molly's book, Rigged, How the Media, Big Tech, and the Democrats Seized Our Elections. A little different description than Trump has it, but you talk about what happened behind the scenes. What actually happened, yes. A radio show like no other. It's Brian Killmead.

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Third and goal. Magoo dancing, buying time. McDu still looking for someone to throw it to. To the end zone, open for the A touchdown, Davion Davis. And there you go.

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So the USFL continues to rage on. A second season moving through with Fox at the helm and Daryl Johnston calling the shots. Former NFL superstar with the Dallas Cowboys, where he won three Super Bowl championships. He's also an outstanding broadcaster for Fox Sports and now running the United States Football League as Executive Vice President of Football Operations. Through week four, Daryl, welcome back.

How's it going? It's going well. It's going well. I think a couple of our teams that got off to kind of a slow start have righted the ship a little bit. Um Michigan has come back to the pack.

I think we see a lot of continuity and consistency in our hub here in Birmingham with New Orleans and the Birmingham teams. And excited to see what we see this weekend getting to the halfway point and then what we have the second half of the season. Yeah, I mean, so far, you know, moving through, you moved out to venues. Everybody used to play one area.

Now you moved out to Canton. You moved out to Detroit. You moved out to Memphis and you stayed in Birmingham.

So it's logistically, it's more of a challenge, but I love the model. You want to make this work, so you got to do it responsibly. Save money where you can. Give people a product and a player something where they can shine. Absolutely.

And it goes back to year one: crawl, walk, run. We don't want to grow too fast. We want to be very disciplined in how we expand. We want to make this sustainable. Not only for the USFL itself, but for the opportunity creation that we provide these players.

So it's up to us to be responsible. It's been well received into the marketplaces. I've been able to be at the opening game in Birmingham, the opening game in Detroit. I was in Canton last week for the first time, have been in Memphis.

So the support in all four of our hubs has been good. It's still challenging for that off-team. The New Orleans franchise here in Birmingham, the Philadelphia franchise in Detroit, the Houston franchise in Memphis, and then really in Canton, which Last week for me was very, very enjoyable. I thought the game day experience in the setting may have been the most enjoyable one I've had so far. The games were very, very competitive all day Sunday.

So I just thought that Canton did a really, really nice job. And that's great to see because there's really not that connection to Pittsburgh or to New Jersey. But everything that the Hall of Fame and the Hall of Fame Village are doing and everything in conjunction with our marketing groups up there have really made that a very enjoyable game day experience. All right.

So now you have the New Orleans Breakers. People remember the Memphis showboats and the Gamblers and the Philadelphia Stars, New Jersey Generals. With those, you think of names like Herschel Walker. You think of Doug Fluti, you think of Jim Kelly. You think of Steve Young.

Is there a movement to start? bringing that legacy, though some of those players back to have a presence at the game and promoting promoting the league. Absolutely. We were able to resolve that in the offseason. And now we have the rights to a lot of the historical data in certain ways that we want to promote the league.

So I actually was on the phone with Jim Kelly yesterday and trying to see where his schedule permitted him to join us for a Houston Gamblers game. We've reached out to Herschel Walker several times. Earlier this season, We had one of our kickers came in, went five for five in week one, and then we had Chris Blewitt do it again in week three, and we're tying records that were sent or were set thirty nine years ago.

So those are really cool things when you talk about the history of the league.

So any way that we can bring in those names that you mentioned and make that connection back is something that we really, really want to do. We're really excited to do because That was one of the things I saw when I was in Michigan for the opener a couple of weeks ago: that generational connection where there's dad, who's a Michigan Panthers fan from 1983, bringing his son to a Michigan Panthers game in 2023, 40 years later. And, you know, just kind of watching that whole dynamic play out. It's a really unique situation for us to be in, and we want to make sure that we embrace that and maximize that opportunity. Right.

So, week four of the score, the Gamblers won the showboats, New Orleans and Birmingham. This week, Pittsburgh plays at Michigan. That game starts at 12:30 on USA. Gamblers play at Birmingham. That'll be Saturday at 4 o'clock on Fox.

New Jersey Generals at Philadelphia Stars. That'll be on NBC because NBC is a partner in Detroit. Memphis Showboats at New Orleans. That'll be in Birmingham. That'll be at 3 o'clock on Fox on Mother's Day.

So that'll be great. The other job is a broadcaster with the league in which you start in, the NFL. The NFL schedule is announced.

Now that's getting bigger and bigger. Every year. I can't believe how big the NFL is getting. Here's an announcement of a game that I know you're looking forward to.

Now, suddenly, everyone's going to be watching Cut 41. Week one all wraps up with the Bills and the Jets Monday night football. The question, Cynthia Freeland. As we examine all of these week one games as they're officially released, which one has you the most excited? The Monday Nighter.

I think Aaron Rodgers, we've been hearing nothing but Aaron Rodgers news all free agency. And now he hosts Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills in the first week of the season on Monday night in front of the big lights in the big city. I think this is an interesting one because this division is a total nightmare and it all starts week one because this could be kind of the fight for number one and number two and it could have big implications right off the bat. Yes, and now Aaron Rodgers has brought the Jets to six primetime games. What does that seem weird to you as a guy who played in this league and has been calling games in this league?

People are excited about the Jets like I never remember before. It's such an affirmation that this is really a quarterback driven league, especially when you have somebody the caliber of Aaron Rodgers. And really, when you look at the Jets, we had them twice last year late in the season, and Everybody, you know, hey, one player doesn't make a team. And I am a firm believer in that. Football is the greatest team sport ever designed because.

You have an offense, a defense, and a special team, and one group turns over the portion of the game to the other two all day long. But that quarterback position is very, very unique. And if a team could ever be just like one player away from really kind of shifting the dynamic of a franchise, I would say it's the Jets and the quarterback position. Because when you watch them last year, that was the struggle. It was just the play of the quarterback.

They felt like they had committed to address that problem. It didn't work out.

So now they've got to change plans. And That offensive line. The defense. The skill positions, both wide receiver and running back, are very good. And you bring Aaron Rodgers into the fold there.

And it's going to be a unique situation to see how much he improves that team, just being that single player. But to follow up off of the question, you know, from the NFL network, you know, what game are you waiting for week one? For me, it's the Thursday night game. It's Detroit, Kansas City. I'm a.

A big fan of what Detroit has done since Dan Campbell has gotten there. They were an up-and-coming team. What they did in that final week of the season with nothing to play for and knocking Green Bay out. Shows you the competitiveness that Dan Campbell has brought to that team. And what better way to find out exactly who you're going to be in 2023 than to go up against the defending Super Bowl champs in a Thursday night opener?

Yeah, I think that's great. I love that because when I watched Dan Campbell personally take these losses so bad the first year, I thought to myself, man, I wonder if he's going to burn out because Rex Ryan was like that too, very emotional, promising this, promising that. But he ends up bringing some quality to that franchise. It also helps they got some talent. Couple of things.

It's not just about Aaron Rodgers. Since we last spoke, Lamar Jackson signed the richest contract, I think, for any quarterback in the league. I know John Harbaugh loves him. Are you convinced that he could be effective without running as much? Because, you know, these quarterbacks get hurt when they put themselves out there, but yet can he be effective without running?

I think that that's part of the problem with Lamar Jackson is that threat of the run and how that opens up the passing game and how much they're able to do off the passing game because of the threat of the run. And so it's that It's that really challenging dynamic. And sometimes it's not just injury, it's just how much you've leaned on Lamar Jackson during the course of the season for offensive production. That when you get to the end of the season, if you're not nicked up and hurt, which everybody is coming in, but if it's not something that prevents you from playing, your tank is just a little bit empty right now. You know, they count on him to do so much.

offensively, that, that to me is the biggest thing. Can you share that burden during the months of October and November?

So when you get to December and January, Lamar's still got some juice left in that tank because that's when you need him to be at his best. And what we've seen several times over the past few seasons is that body starts to break down because you've leaned on him so much. To be the star of that offense.

So I think that that's going to be a challenge for all the quarterbacks who play the position that way. It'll be interesting to see how Jalen Hurts handles that now, you know, because they're going to be leaning on him to do a lot more. He probably has a lot better supporting cast, probably has a lot better defense when you talk about sacks and takeaways to give him short fields. But you're still going to be looking for Jalen Hurts to produce a lot of that yardage for you offensively. And we're talking with Daryl Johnson.

Cut one more minute here. Darrell, people listening to WOKV over in Jacksonville are worried that they're going to start telling this team to play half their home games in London. And they have a trial run. First time ever, one team will play two games in London back-to-back weeks. I think the first game's Wembley, the next game's in Tottenham Stadium, the Hottsboro Stadium.

How do you feel about that? I mean, how significant is that? And is that difficult for the players? Yes, yes, it is. And they've always been able to work around that with, you know, one of the teams always, you know, everybody has that buy.

You go over and do the international game, and when you come back, you have your buy week the following week to kind of get back on, you know, your body clock and get ready for that next game.

So I think it's going to be interesting as the NFL expands into the international market. I think from building a passion for the game overseas, And taking games over there has been something that's unique, and you can see the success in it. When we used to do the preseason games back in the day. And we weren't doing regular season games. We didn't draw a lot of interest once the fans over there figured it out that, hey, in the preseason, the stars don't play.

So we're not going to go to the games because we don't get to see the guys play who we want to watch play.

So now you've got to commit to regular season games if you're going to hook. The overseas international audience to the game. But now you're on that slippery slope. And I know there's been rumors about doing half the games, half the home games over there with Jacksonville. I just have never been a fan of that model.

I think there's a way for us to engage with the European market, but I am not in favor of putting multiple games over in London for one team. Yeah, I'm top fair. By the way, I was at Jacksonville's playoff game. They are in love with that team, and they have as much promise, in my humble opinion, you're the expert, as any team in the league. And Trevor Lawrence truly emerged.

And the way he was able to shake off that bad first half in his first playoff game and come out and play that well on stage that comeback, I could not have been more impressed. I agree. I agree. They're an up-and-coming team. They're one of the teams that I think everybody's excited to watch.

this year, you know, they they Yeah. That's exactly right, Brian. I mean, if you tuned into that game and you had not seen the first half, I don't know if you stay and watch it. I mean, it's just like, oh my gosh, look at the score. There's no way you're going to get back into this game.

You know, with your first playoff start in the NFL, you know, it's been a bumpy ride for Jacksonville the last few years, but they're definitely a team that I want to see play this year. You know, they could control that division. And now you're asking a team that's probably, you know, you look at that, Tennessee, sure, but they've got some questions that they've got to answer. But right now, I would think that Jacksonville is going to be one of the favorites to win the AFC South. And now you're going to ask them, you're going to tax them and burden them to make these trips overseas.

I just think it's a very, very slippery slope that the NFL gets on when you start talking about multiple games by one franchise overseas. I know. People get greedy because they want to see that revenue come in from Europe, and people want to see them wearing Jaguar uniforms in London. Listen, always love talking to you, Daryl. Congratulations on the league as you move through almost the midway point of the season.

And I'll definitely make sure I get to the finals this year. Absolutely. I'm going to hold you to that one. All right, you got it. Daryl Johnston.

He went from athlete to executive. And he's also a broadcaster. That resume is looking better every day. Darrell, thanks so much. 1-866-408-7669.

Don't move. Educating, entertaining, enlightening. You're with Brian Kilmead. Uh The more you listen, the more you'll know. It's Brian Kilmead.

Hello, everyone. I'm Dwight Howard, and since I came to Taiwan, I've gained a whole new appreciation of this country. And that there is the line that had Dwight Howard apologized. Remember, Dwight Howard? I played in the NBA for 17 years, a myriad of teams, drafted by Orlando.

I think I watched his first season in between Disney visits with my children. And I think he came until he got 18. And then he was one of the stars in Special Forces.

Well, he goes over to Taiwan to still play basketball at 7'6'11, and he's still in great shape. Why not? He made that statement, and Red China goes crazy. NBA fearing a huge backlash. I guess convinces him to apologise.

He did. His statement is comical. He says, Where I'm from, if I want to say I want to go to the country, it does not mean that place is a country. It's just how we talk. If I offended anyone in China, I apologize.

I mean If I say I'm going to a country, it's not really a country. Are you kidding me? It's such a joke. And remember John Sana? I don't know if you still have that, Eric.

If you see, remember his. Actually, you don't get it, it's in Chinese. He speaks Mandarin and So he speaks Mandarin and apologizes because they're not going to air his movies because he said something similar about Taiwan. It is a country, let's be honest. It's its own country.

It's got its own economy. It's all just verbiage that was agreed on during the Nixing years with Kissinger in order to say we will recognize China, put them on the Security Council, we will preserve the integrity of Taiwan. We're not going to call it a country because they believe the island of Formosa, which it originally was, belongs to China.

So I mean How much leverage do they have over us? I mean, the same thing what they're doing is not including certain things in movies when they go over there. They know they don't air Facebook, Instagram just pulled out. Why are we still doing this? And when you are, with you making.

As an industry. $60 billion. Does it really mean that much to make to give up your integrity? to be in the Chinese market. Let me just say, you know what?

Can't agree with the way you guys run your country. I can't agree with the way you have these Uyghurs in concentration camps. I can't agree with the way what you did at Tiananmen Square. If you guys want to carry the league, you guys love it. That's great.

I'm out. That's it. I mean, it'd be different if China makes or break you, and then you got to say, Do I want to get rid of the whole industry? Could it destroy a whole sport? No.

It's an extremely lucrative sport that is thriving all around the globe. It will be China's loss. Remember with Daryl Morley, he made one tweet that basically said stand with Hong Kong or retweeted it, and they pulled the Rockets games out of China and then they pulled all the NBA out. Because he did that one thing with Hong Kong. And of course, what they did with Hong Kong.

Arrests every entrepreneur there, including a lot of American allies, put him in jail, basically circumvented a treaty that they signed off on with England. In the nineteen eighties? They had no ramifications for that either, 'cause we were all caught up in the pandemic. Pretty crazy. That's Dwight Howard, though.

I mean, why he did that, I don't know. I mean, what kind of pressure are you putting on him? Are you a retired guy? But, Brian, the other point with that, what kind of bubble does he live in to not realize that you can't say something like that if you're an NBA player or former NBA player? I mean I don't know.

I don't know how much these guys know about foreign relations. I really don't. I mean, do you think that he knows about the threat that Taiwan's under? But I would think he would know the pressure China puts on the NBA. Right?

Yeah, that's true. We'll see. You never know people's hot parties or countries. From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian Killmead.

Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Killmeat Show from 48th and 6 in Midtown Manhattan, where there's a battle between New York City and all the surrounding counties. This is the Brian Killmeat Show, thanks to illegal immigration. Yes, and thanks to President Biden. A big hour coming your way. Bill Browder will be joining us, the Hermitage Capital CEO and rival of Vladimir Putin.

Vladimir Putin's trying to kill him, and he would love for Vladimir Putin to die an ugly death. Why wouldn't he? He killed his lawyer and he's tortured so many other people, started a war that's also killed tens of thousands. We'll talk about the latest on that war with Bill Browder and Shannon Bream standing by.

So let's get right to it. Shannon, there was an arraignment today, and we watched the 24-year-old Marine, decorated Marine, being Bra walking on his own On his own volition, into the Fifth Precinct in Manhattan, and then walking out with his handcuffs, brought into a police car. Totally unnecessary show. And this is the twenty four-year-old who looked to suppress and sadly ended up choking a would-be attacker on a subway. And now there's been nonstop protests since.

How much trouble, if at all, is this marine in?

Well, listen, his attorney is still very positive. They believe that they said when all the evidence is out there, that he's going to be cleared.

So they feel confident of that. You know that there's more than what we've seen on the video. There have been calls for other witnesses to come in. If you were part of this, please, we need to talk to you. And I thought it was interesting, one of the things that came out today is that a witness says that That Penny got involved when he heard Neely saying he threatened to, quote, kill an.

An MFR. In reference, apparently to another passenger, it sounds like that's what this witness is saying. You know, it it's one thing, um, you know, for some on the left and AOC and the governor and others to say, like, he was killed for being homeless and riding a subway train. There's way more to that. It's more to it than that.

Do you believe that? Right.

I mean, way more, you know, to it than that. And, you know, if he was scaring people, that's one thing. You and I both know you ride the subway, some people are scary. But if he's threatening to, quote, kill someone, even if he's mentally ill and he desperately needed help, you cannot. It's hard to imagine how a jury can convict someone for stepping in when they hear him say something like that.

Which is pretty crazy because, number one, we see this with school shooters all the time. Oh, they were, you know, they needed their medication. They were reaching out for help. They were lonely. And I knew he was dangerous, but I didn't know what to do.

Now, this guy isn't a school shooter, but he has a 44, he got 44 separate arrests, including attacking three separate women trying to kidnap a seven-year-old.

So Daniel Penny is now dealing with, well, his whole life and his family is turned on its head. Jordan Neely's family is calling a press conference where they're going to go to bat and say that he was unjustly killed. Jordan Neely, as the family said initially, was institutionalized and walked out because he wasn't there by court order. And he's an admitted schizophrenic, wasn't taking his medication, and had attacked three different women on a subway before.

So Penny maybe should have released the choke hold. Obviously, he didn't. Didn't do it on purpose. All logic says he has no history except for exemplary history of serving our country. I want you to, then I think this is all about, and you tell me.

He could have waited and did a grand jury, let the grand jury decide. But instead, Alvin Bragg got ahead of this because he saw the protest in the streets. That should not factor into justice, Shannon. Yeah, and that's going to. This will ultimately have to go through the grand jury still.

He's going to have to present his evidence there, but. You know, the fact that he stepped up and made this charging decision with these specific You know, charges, I think, as we talked about on Fox and Friends this morning, I think he's trying very much to. Thread a needle. I mean, he knows that there are calls here. You know, Jordan Neely's family says this is terrible.

It should have been a murder charge. I think Bragg knows you cannot land a murder charge. That conviction is just not going to happen on this case.

So he's trying to give something to say, like, we take this seriously. We're going to hold him accountable for the actions he took, but not a murder charge.

So, you know, there's still so many steps to go, but you've got to believe people who live and ride the subways and work and walk the streets of New York City, if those are the jurors, they're going to know they will have had this same personal experience. If you're spending any time in Manhattan, you're going to have this experience. And right now with the Neely family, it has a news conference. They're going to be lawyered up and look to cash in. Uh, I mean, the initial comments about how troubled this guy is, uh, you know, sadly, his mom died, was murdered when he was 18.

We know that. Uh, everyone listening right now can name some tragedy in their life. It doesn't give you a right to attack a bunch of people. The last person he attacked, I think, is 66-year-old, 67-year-old woman he punched in the face and still has ramifications, head injuries has not been the same. And I think they're having she's having some eyesight problems.

So, this is going to be, I think this is going to be a huge case because we're dealing with a crime problem across the country, and this guy stepped up to help. Right.

And the crime rates there on the subways in New York are higher than they were prepandemic. We know the pandemic made things absolutely chaotic in New York in many different ways. But the fact is, the crime situation there is a real one.

Now New York will say Crime numbers are coming down. The rates are still very high on the subway. And you know, to the point where when I lived in New York, I took it everywhere all the time. I haven't a second thought about it now when I'm there. I really do make a calculation about time of day and where I'm going and all of those things, which is a shame.

For people who live and work there full-time, they should be able to feel safe. Nobody wants vigilantes out there, nobody thinks that's a good idea. But do we want a good Samaritan who has served our country in uniform, who thinks he can neutralize the guy and handle the situation to be able to do that without fear of going to jail? A lot of our law enforcement officers are in fear of getting something wrong and going to jail. And listen, the ones who have bad intent and do something wrong, nobody hates a bad cop worse than a good cop.

We don't want that. But people who are trying to act with the intent to help others and protect others. You know, don't we want to encourage that in society? Not anymore. There's nobody helping anybody in the subway right now who witnessed what's going on today.

And now we're watching the Neely family incite things, judging by the closed caption I'm looking at now. I want you to hear what Paul Morrow said on the set with Bill Hemmer, your good friend, about something suspicious about these protests. They almost seem coordinated. Listen.

So now we're going to have trial by media before it ever gets to a grand jury, and it potentially weakens his case. They should have done it the way the system is supposed to work. They couldn't take the pressure of 15 kids with green hair jumping onto a subway track and protesting. And if I can make a point about that, there's no way. That those kids jump onto a live subway track and hope that the train stops.

That entire thing was staged. I don't know how they colluded it, but that just doesn't happen. You had kids jumping around on the third rail. You don't jump around on the third rail unless you know the thing is off. And there were more photographers there, if you look at that, than there are people on the tracks.

So I gotta tell you, as a resident of this city, I feel played.

So, Daniel, this is what the attorney, and they're speaking now. But they said: when Mr. Penny, a decorated Marine veteran, stepped in to protect himself and his fellow New Yorkers, his well-being was not assured. He risked his own life and safety for the good of his fellow passengers. The unfortunate result was the unintended and unforeseen death of Mr.

Neely. We're confident that once in all the facts and circumstances surrounding the tragic incident were brought to bear, Mr. Penny was fully absolved of any wrongdoing.

Now it's up to everyone to step up and tell everybody exactly what happened. But they say the family, I didn't hear any apology, therefore we're going to sue.

So they're going to add the city, didn't help them. They're going to look to move forward that way. And we'll see. It's just a shame that it's race. If there's anything that should not be involved in this, my last point in this, Shannon, it's race.

Do you really think that he put him in a headlock because he's black? And do you think he was screaming because he's black? Do you think he was threatening people because they were white? There were indications that this guy's just a violent guy that needed help and chose not to get it. Walked out of an institution where he was getting rehab, and they can't stop him because he's 30 years old.

It's not like he was a preteen.

Well, and that's the thing: the laws have changed a lot over the last couple of decades as far as forcing people to get help if they don't want to. And so, it's revisiting that conversation now about do we want to have situations that are a little bit more forceful for people who don't want to seek help. You know, and then that gets into all kinds of civil liberties situations and everything else. But he clearly needed help. And I can understand that his family is grieving.

Anybody who loses, you know, somebody who is young and in the prime of their life, although albeit struggling and having a serious criminal history, it sounds like, we can understand that they are grieving the loss of their brother, their son, their child, their friend. And it's upsetting that what happens is people like the folks used in the protests and they're not getting the full story. They're being inflamed and being encouraged with only half the story. And I think that. You know, we know this man did not get the help that he needed.

That's only part of the story. But we also know that it can be true that he desperately needed help and also that Daniel Penny thought he was doing the right thing. Those don't have to be mutually exclusive.

So, Shannon, who do you have on on Sunday? We have got Congressman Byron Daniels with excuse me, Donalds with us, not Daniels, that's Mr. Daniel Penny. Byron Donalds is with us to talk about debt, to talk about what are we doing on the debt ceiling, to talk about the border, and also about this oversight investigation into banking records involving the Bidens. You know, Democrats say that it's a witch hunt, it's a smear campaign, but others say where there's smoke, there's fire.

The investigations continue, and there are more questions than answers at this point.

So I have our Democrat just about locked in, but I'll put it on social media in just a bit.

Okay, that's all I ask.

So the attorney just spoke. I want you to listen and then maybe quick comment before you go. Let's listen. Who are we to look at someone and say. They were houseless, so they must be a bad person.

They were houseless, so they must have been about to attack us. They must have been about to hurt us.

So we had the right to take his life. Because our life matters more. That's not the situation we want to live in. That's not the community we want to have. We don't want it where you can kill someone.

Because you thought There was a possibility they could do something to you. There was no attack. Mr. Neely did not attack anyone. He did not touch anyone.

He did not hit anyone. But he was choked to death. Uh And that can't stand. That can't be what we represent. Wow, that's a ridiculous argument.

He was not killed because he was homeless. I think every person, if they're being honest, it is not about that. If he was saying, as one of the witnesses says, I'm going to kill XYZ passenger, whatever, if he was saying those kinds of things, if you say that you can't ever meet a threat with some kind of force, then that means no law enforcement. That means, you know, it just, you have to extrapolate that out to its logical conclusion. I have been in a situation, I talked about it last weekend on Fox and Friends, where I was on a subway here in Washington when I was a young college intern.

The very first day I commuted in and out of the city for my internship, and somebody was sitting next to me on the train saying, I'm going to mess these people up. I'm going to kick them in the face. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do that. And I'm sitting there paralyzed looking around.

Is anyone going to help me? I don't want to get off at my stop and this guy follows me. I don't know if he's about to attack people on this train. It was terrifying. And so I know what it's like.

Even though he didn't punch me in the face or lay a hand on me, I was frightened for myself. And the good thing was when we got to that next.

Next stop, he stood up, tried to grab my purse, was acting a little strange, and multiple other people jumped up and pushed him off the train. There was no altercation, thankfully, that injured him or caught, you know. caused him to lose his life, but people stepped up because they felt like there was a threat. And I was so thankful as a kid, basically, on that train that day that somebody heard what he was saying, knew I was frightened and stepped in to help. Yeah, anybody who rides the subway knows you're 100% right.

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Appreciate it. Yeah, I'm going to see you Saturday at 8, and we're going to watch Sunday in the morning. 1-866-408-7669. Your closing accent, Bill Browder, Inside the War, and what his response is from Donald Trump coming out and saying, I'm not picking a side when it comes to Ukraine or Russia. Brian Killmeat Show.

Learning something new every day on the Brian Killmeat Show. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it. You're with Brian Kilmead. Yeah, it is. dealing with the situation, like I said, with a sort of integrity and honor.

That is characteristic of who he is, characteristic of his honorable service in the United States Marine Corps. Yeah, that is uh the attorney for Daniel Penny, who's just been turning himself in. I thought it was totally unnecessary. I'm not sure what the logistics are, but he walks in on his own. We saw some of that video this morning, and he's a 24-year-old Marine who you put a submission hold, ended up being a chokehold, and cost the life of Jordan Neely, who is belligerent on a subway and doing what he always does best, it seems, and that's attack people.

So that was about to happen. We don't know the details, but Daniel Penny gets arrested and charged with. Second degree manslaughter, but then they pull him out of the fifth precinct and put him in the pop uh uh a cop car so everyone can see him in handcuffs and they push the back of his head and push him in the back. didn't stop the family attorney for giving a long, emotional, ridiculous Press conference. I'm sure some people are sad that this guy died, but he's probably been very frustrating to deal with.

I think he's probably being impossible to deal with because he's a guy that needed help and didn't want to give it didn't want to get it into rehab. We all know people like that that need rehab, were willing to go to rehab. They got found a rehab for him, and he walks out on his own, and instead of You know, to his own demise, he ends up making everyone's lives miserable around him, people that are related to him, and then people that he ended up attacking 44 separate times.

So that's what's happening this morning. You have to wonder. If you see something happening, keep in mind the last woman that he attacked was 67 years old, got punched in the head. And you see that, you might say to yourself, I'm not going to let that stand.

Now, If you Cherish your freedom. You might say to yourself, I'm going to let it stand. I'm getting off. Not my problem. Because I can't go to jail for 20 years.

I can't have my whole family's reputation destroyed, being forced to move, protest in front of my house. I can't worry about my own personal security because on a subway at 2:30 in the afternoon, it became clear that some homeless guy who clearly needed mental help was once again a threat to society. And the one thing I did notice that's changed over the last 20 years, and I've said this on, I'm not sure how many times I said it on mic or on camera, is that the homeless population. They don't look necessarily deprived. They look angry and deranged.

And it's a broad statement to make, I get it, but what this lawyer just said. Was you're all one or two paychecks away from being homeless. Those are the good old days. That's called the depression, when people lost their belongings. This is, they lost their minds.

And choosing to live out of society. And that's what I noticed in California, and I certainly noticed here. And when there were very few people in the city, when I was walking around, I'm looking around going. That guy is clearly on hard times, but he is angry. And believe me, it's not black.

There's a lot of white, crazy white people out there, Hispanic people out there. I don't even think about race. But once again, people got to factor race into it. You think that guy, and you don't know him. But I know people that do know him.

Surfer. Lacrosse player. Decides I'm going to go in and serve my country for four years, comes out, looks to build on that four years of experience. When I'm looking at this, Listen to his medals. He got a good conduct medal for his service.

Then he got the National Defense Service Medal. Then he got the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal.

So, and that's in four years. Obviously, he was in battle. And then he comes back on a backpack, not at 2:30 in the afternoon. What could go wrong on the F train? That's what can go wrong.

So guess what?

Now This is going to be the big debate.

Now, because of the ridiculous bail laws in New York City, you've got to quickly put a case together.

So they got 20 days to interview everybody. And then decide. Do I have a case?

Now, you could have had a grand jury do that, a grand jury bring people in. Then you have a defense attorney plead their case. Maybe you hear from him. And you'll realize It's a tragedy. But he was protecting people he didn't know On a train He had no idea what he was walking into.

Bill Brad Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Show. Hey, we're back. We've always great to have Bill Browder back in studio, Hermitage Capital CEO, head of Global McGinsky Justice Campaign, New York Times best-selling author. His latest book, Freezing Order, a true story of money laundering, murder, and surviving Vladimir Putin's wrath, now available on paperback, and I'm holding it up if you're watching Fox Nation.

Bill, great to see you. Great to be here. It's always good to weigh in with you because just for people to understand how you're linked to Russia, first off, you went there as an investor, correct? You're doing business. A lot of people were doing business in Russia.

They had great hopes for what Russia would be after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Yeah, it all looked good. You know, we thought that this was going to turn into a normal country and it was all very inexpensive. All these stocks were trading at like Bargain basement prices, and we thought if it becomes a normal country, we're going to make a lot of money and it's all going to be really great. Problem was that it didn't turn into a normal country, it turned into a massive Putin led kleptocracy, where Putin became the biggest mafia boss in the world.

He was stealing everything hand over fist, and anybody who tried to complain about it ended up getting kicked out. I was kicked out for publicly complaining about it. I was living in Moscow at the time and uh and I got kicked out. My offices were raided, they seized our documents, And the next thing that happened was the documents were used in a complex scam and fraud where they stole $230 million of taxes that my firm paid to the Russian government. I had a young lawyer named Sergei Magnitsky.

He discovered the fraud. He exposed it, he testified against the officials involved. And then he was arrested, tortured for three hundred and fifty eight days and murdered. back in two thousand nine, at the age of thirty seven, in Russian police custody. What did you do in his name?

I got a piece of legislation passed called the Magnitsky Act, named after Sergei Magnitsky. It freezes the assets and bans the visas of the kleptocrats and human rights violators in the Putin regime. The Magnitsky Act was passed in the United States in 2012. It has been since passed in 35 countries, including the UK, EU, Australia, Canada, and various other places. And Putin is just furious about this legislation because he's a guy who commits human rights abuses, keeps a lot of money offshore, and I've put that money at risk.

And he values money more than human life.

So in that time, we remember the McGinsky Act was front and center. Number one, John McCain helped pass it. Number two is, and he loved it because he saw Vladimir Putin as the enemy you do. And then it became pretty apparent because they tried to get to the Trump campaign and try to get rid of the McGinsky Act in exchange for re-releasing adoption, allowing Americans to adopt Russian kids again.

So that's when the McGinsky enemy was like, well, what is that act? And then we're realizing. What do you did?

Well, and in fact, at the Helsinki Summit in 2018, Putin was so angry at me for getting the Magnitsky Act passed that he asked Trump to hand me over. I mean, you know, and it was in the press conference. And Putin said, you know, we'll hand over the 12 military intelligence officers who have been indicted in America if you hand over Bill Browder. And everyone says, Who's Bill Browder? All of a sudden.

I knew. And I watched. Of the 8 billion people on the planet, Putin name-checked me, only one. What were your thoughts then?

Well, two things. The first was it's not very pleasant to be asked to be handed over, but it was also not unexpected because Putin has been chasing since the Magnitsky Act has been passed, he's been chasing me around the world with death threats, with kidnapping threats, eight Interpol arrest warrants, extradition requests, lawsuits, movies. They were doing everything to try to get me, target me, ruin my life. And so it wasn't unexpected, but it was certainly not pleasant. Right.

And now that's when free. Orders about, right? What has happened? This has been 10 years. Since he's been coming after you?

Well, it's basically since Sergei Magnitsky was murdered 13 years ago. I've been on this campaign to get justice for Sergei. And the campaign has led to all these things. And he's been chasing me for 13 years. It's just been going on and on.

And so Freezing Order is all about the second part of our campaign.

So the Magnitsky Act was the first part. The second part was who got the money? Who got the $230 million that Sergei Magnitsky was killed over? And we started tracing the money. And we got whistleblowers, we had data leaks, we had criminal investigations, and every time we would find money.

We would apply to the law enforcement agencies of the country where the money was, and they would freeze it. And that's what a freezing order is. And we've frozen about $60 million of the $230 million. We found some of the money here in the U.S. The Department of Justice issued a freezing order over a whole bunch of apartments in lower Manhattan that were used where they used the money that Sergei Magnitsky was killed over.

And there's investigations and money frozen in France and Spain and Switzerland and Lithuania, Latvia. Whose money is it? It belongs to all sorts of people, people generally connected to the Putin regime. But there's one in one person in particular who got the money. Vladimir Putin We were able to trace some of the money to Vladimir Putin himself.

How good a job, if at all, has the West done in freezing Vladimir Putin's assets and other oligarchs' goods?

Well, so Putin doesn't hold any money in his own name. All the money is held in other people's names. And generally, it's held in the name of Russian oligarchs. And I should point out, people often ask me, are there any good oligarchs out there? And the answer is no.

In order to be an oligarch, you've got to do a deal with the devil. You've got to do a deal with Putin. He gets half the money.

So the way you g the way you freeze Putin's money is you freeze the oligarch's money.

So far we've done a pretty good job. We've frozen about 40 oligarchs assets, but there's, I think there's a total of 118 people on the on the Russian Forbes list and they should all have their money frozen.

So interesting.

So here's what Donald Trump said the other night about what's going on in the war, Cut 32. Do you believe that Putin is a war criminal? He's responsible for the deaths of thousands of people.

Well I think this is something that should not be discussed now. It should be discussed later, because right now we have to go to war. If you say he's a war criminal, it's going to be a lot tougher to make a deal to get this thing stopped. Because if he's going to be a war criminal, where people are going to go and grab him and execute him, He's going to fight a lot harder than he's fighting under the other circumstances. That's something to be discussed at a later date.

Right now, we want to get that war settled.

So what are your thoughts about his? I know Putin probably better than just about anybody in the world because I've been fighting with him for 13 years. Putin doesn't negotiate. There's no discussion to be had. Putin, all he does, and he never compromises, never negotiates, never discusses.

All he does is lies and escalates. And so Putin is a war criminal. He's a murderer. He's someone who needs to be defeated, not engaged with.

So, yeah, right now, from when we first talked about this, war just started. And now over a year in To describe describe how much prestige and power Vladimir Putin has lost?

Well, Putin went into this war, in my opinion. Um uh just to gain power.

So but when he when he took Crimea His approval rating shot up, and he thought this is pretty good. Without a shot, without a shot fire. It was a great deal. He went up to 83% approval rating. And since then, things have been deteriorating and deteriorating.

He went through COVID and the economy and all this kind of stuff. He saw a bunch of his other dictators in neighboring countries losing their positions. And Putin is a guy who understands very clearly that if he loses his job, there's no Putin presidential library to retire to. He can't just go and do paintings and enjoy all of his stolen money. Like Obama.

He's not saying he's stolen money, but he can enjoy his retirement. Or like George W. Bush, who does nice painting and having a good time. How's that going to happen? That's not going to happen.

If Putin loses power, Um he loses his money. He goes to jail? And he dies. And so for Putin, this is like the scariest thing in the world. And he's a scared little man.

And so the reason he went into this war. It's not because of NATO or some grand vision of Russian expansionism or something like that. He went to this war. Because he wanted to stay alive and he wanted to push his approval ratings back up. And he thought, okay, he's going to go into war.

He's going to invade Ukraine. Zelensky is going to hop on the first U.S. military helicopter to western Ukraine, and three days later. It's all going to be over. And this has turned into the worst quagmire, the biggest disaster Putin could have ever imagined.

He's lost more than 200,000 soldiers. It's a complete mess. Bill Bradder, our guest, the name of this book down on paperback Freezing Order. You're 100% right. And now in Bakhmud, in the actual battle itself, it was supposed to take Bakhmud and get closer in the winter and just punish Ukrainians who were just going to hold in the winter.

They can't get Bakhmut. And Wagner Group is so frustrated that they came out and said, since we can't get any ammunition, we can't get ammo, we can't get back up, we're out of here.

So there's quickly, they tried to ameliorate the situation, but there's obviously friction between the mercenaries, the Wagner group, and between regular army. And they lost ground over the last few days to the Ukrainians who are moving forward in that region. And the counteroffensive hasn't even begun yet. I think that basically they've run out of soldiers. I think that there are no, I mean, the Wagner guys have been decimated.

They think they've lost more people in the last month in Bakhmud than they lost in the entire Afghanistan thing over 10 years. Right.

When the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. Everyone's like, oh, look out for the Wagner group. Really? They're recruiting in prison. How elite are they?

They're better than the regular army. The regular army, like nobody wants to be there at all, at least from Prigozhin's perspective. He's the head of the Wagner group. He can get trained killers because these guys are all in jail for murder. That's better than just some guy who is a computer programmer who gets drafted into the army.

Right.

I'm thinking of our quality Navy SEALs, those. Oh, yeah, no, I mean, these guys are terrible across the board. And they can't even... I mean, Russia defined Ukraine as some kind of non-existent pseudo-country. And all of a sudden, these guys are as mean and tough and aggressive as anyone they could have ever encountered.

Well, they know how to fight, and they were Western-trained, and it looks like we played a role in that. But here's what bothers me: is that. In the beginning, we're not going to give him high Mars. We gave him high Mars. In the beginning, we're not going to give him fighter jets.

They got fighter jets elsewhere.

Now we're not going to give you cruise missiles. We're not going to give you patriots. We gave them patriots. How many people died while we went back on our word and changed our mind? Why can't we make a comprehensive decision?

Because losing is not an option for the West either. You couldn't be more right. I mean, you're so, so right. It was shameful. We could have given them all this stuff at the very beginning.

We could have created a no-fly zone. We could have given them the F-16s. We could have given them the tanks. And we still, to this day, are not giving them long-range artillery, but the British are. We attack them.

The British are. And I read the other day, and I don't know if it's true or not, but I read the other day that the Russians called us up and said, oh, there's a red line if you do that.

Well, who are the Russians to tell us where the red line is? Right, absolutely. I mean, I 100% agree with that. The thing that I think the world has to understand that we should have. learned from hundreds of years of Of knowledge is that our enemies, who are China and Russia, every time we try to acquiesce and rationalize, they look at it as weakness.

And you have to not treat it like we're dealing with France and England. We can rationalize. France got mad about the nuclear missile sales. Australia said, We're not getting it from you, we're getting it from America. They were furious.

They pulled back their ambassador. We made up. We talked to him. We're pretending as if we can do that with China and Russia, and we can't. You can't.

And the one thing I would say about this whole conflict in Ukraine, for anybody who says that we shouldn't be in Ukraine or we shouldn't give them what they need, is that Russia is either tied for number one or the number two adversary to the United States and to the West. We can spend 5% of our military budget. um not lose a single American or British or European soldier. Um And we can basically eliminate this enemy for the next 25 years. It seems like a pretty good deal to me.

It is a good deal, but the President of the United States has to do a good job explaining to the American people every chance he gets. This is what we're doing. It's a small portion. It's one half or 1% of our military budget. A small portion.

This is what's happening. Yeah, would I like to see the Europeans give more? But General Keene broke it down for me. He says: if you think about it, in terms of what they're doing in training, what they're not doing in dollars, he thinks France should be giving more in Germany, but the UK is doing a lot. Sweden's stepping up.

My goodness, the worst nightmare just happened to Vladimir Putin, treaded NATO, is adding Finland and eventually Sweden. That is his worst nightmare because that's his big complaint and fear about Ukraine. Yeah, I mean, he was worried about NATO expanding.

Well, he's just got a 500-mile border with Finland. And by the way, the Finns know how to fight. I mean, if there is. They are not afraid.

Well, I mean, nobody wants to be at war, but the Finns have already been through this with Russia, and they pushed the Russians back. They successfully fought off. The Russians back in 1939. I mean, they know what they're doing to the Finns.

So, listen, Bill Browder's here. One more segment. It's called Freezing Order: a true story of money laundering, murder, and surviving Vladimir Putin's wrath. A lot of people ask, what's he really like? Is he really that bad?

Bill knows, and he breaks it down in a real life thriller. He wishes it wasn't so thrilling, but it is. Don't move. Diving deep into today's top stories, it's Brian Kilmead. Breaking news, unique opinions.

Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show.

So, Bill Browder's been one of the probably the number one enemy of Vladimir Putin because he continues to surround him everywhere he can and stop him financially, however he can. His book, Freezing Orders Now, out on paperback, a true story of money laundering, murder, and surviving Vladimir Putin's wrath. How would you characterize his health? And his political future right now.

Well, his health is hard to know. He doesn't look great. He definitely doesn't look great, and the rumors are abounding that he's not well, that he's got cancer, Parkinson's, this, that. Who who knows? I don't know about his health.

But what I can tell you is that he's really out on a limb. Politically. I mean, and the way I can tell you this is just to look at how scared he is of any type of opposition.

So I've got a friend, a close friend of mine. His name is Vladimir Karamurza. He is a Russian opposition activist. He went on to CNN and MSNBC and criticized Putin. At in at the beginning of the war, a firm Russia.

They just sentenced him to twenty five years in prison for treason. And so Is he there? He's in jail and for treason right now. He's sitting in jail. Um suffering in jail for treason.

And for treason. And what is this treason? Calling Putin a war criminal, saying that Putin is a war criminal. Yeah, of course. And then the Wall Street Journal reporter, they just scooped up.

Paul Whale, and they're holding on to. And we are making it clear that we're willing to swap. Again, are we sending as much as I want the Wall Street Journal reporter back? The fact that they feel they can do it. And now we have to go collect Russians.

Put him into our custody and then swap for him, should we?

Well, I mean, I can think about Vladimir Karamurza and him dying in jail, and I want to get him out of jail. What would you do for him? Yeah, I think. Look at Navalny. Yeah.

I mean, he's and so should we swap? I don't know. I mean, I think that to a certain extent the reason why they grabbed Evan Gershowitz is because they got such a good deal on Brittany Greiner. You know, they got a sort of a world-renowned arms dealer. Um, in exchange for a girl who had a little um pot on her.

Um no that arms dealer. Came out and said that Donald Trump is welcome in Russia if he wants, because he understands how badly he's being treated here. How is the perception? Of this government in Russia, do you think?

Well, I mean, I think that Russia is just furious with America and the UK and just about everywhere right now because we're supplying weapons, we're sanctioning Putin, and they're suffering. And by the way, it's really important. Putin claims, oh, the sanctions aren't working, everything is going well, don't worry about, you know, it's not. It's a disaster over there.

South Africa is choosing to supply weapons. Why would they do that? I think that there must be somebody getting a big bribe in South Africa because South Africa, I think if you take the, if you look at who do they make money off, who do they sell stuff to? I think less than 1% gets sold to Russia of their goods. 40% goes to America, Europe, Japan, all the good guys.

Why would they be like flushing their economic future down the toilet?

Somebody must be getting a bribe. The one that's got to back out is India. I know India, they have a military relationship and they hate China. But that we have to pressure India.

Well, I think we have to pressure everybody because, like back in the days when I went around the world telling everyone Putin's a murder bad guy. And we're doing business with Russia. It's crazy. Pick up freezing order, you'll really understand what's going on. Bill Bradder, always great to see you.

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