Video shows officers' brutal beating of Tyre Nichols; Race a factor?

From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Kilmead. Hi everyone, welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Me Show. I just ripped my microphone off the pole to start up again. It came one way back in.

I guess someone loosened it up. They weren't prepared for my strength, perhaps. This hour we're going to be joined by historian John Cribb. He's one of the best. I remember the book that he wrote, Mike Penn said, was the best Lincoln book he ever read.

He's got a new book out called The Rail Splitter. I want to get a perspective. Also, this critical race theory, which in New York will now be mandatory, take a critical race theory test for all state workers. You believe that? By March 6th, get it done.

So we'll talk about that. The President of the United States is on the road today, and he is coming back from Delaware from Camp David. And then on Wednesday, he's got his big meeting with Kev McCarthy.

So let's get to the big three.

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And that's not speculation. That's based upon the polling that I was privy to pre the 2020 election and what we saw actually happen in the 2020 election. And it's only gotten worse since then. Intrigue 2024. It's building as Trump hits the road and Sunudio Pompeo, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott make it clear they are likely to join him soon.

But not for him again, not just to join to help him, but to run against him. As 80-year-old Joe Biden is weeks away from doing the exact same thing. Number two. I believe it's part of the institutionalized police culture that makes it somehow allowed that they can use this type of excessive force and brutality against people of color. Ugh.

Ben Krubb, the attorney. Memphis Mayhem, five cops all black charged with second-degree murder of an innocent man, Tyrus Nichols. Tyree Nichols, I should say. But some say race is a factor. Really?

I'll go over the biggest worries about I have that's going to emerge from this horrible incident. Number one. One. Our job's not to figure out if somebody mishandled those, but our job is to make sure there's not. An intelligence compromise, now that you've got the special counsel, the notion that we're going to be left in limbo and we can't do our job, that just cannot stand.

No kidding. That is Mark Warner, Democrat. Classified document debacle. How revelations ups the seriousness. Not only did President Biden have documents dating back 16 years of his days in the Senate, but also had classified information with his handwritten notes.

Does this explain why they won't even want to brief Democrats or Republicans in the Intelligence Committee? I think so.

So here's what they're saying now. Reports are, and I knew this, and I got to give myself full credit for this. I said, when they said we've taken classified documents to date back from his days in the Senate, And they also took out the planners. The schedule and the notes surrounding it, I thought to myself, why would that be? If it's 16 years ago and think about the headlines back then, Saddam Hussein, whatever you want to talk about, was big.

Whoever was leading Israel at the time, or Hazni Mubarak, whatever they want. But why would you take surrounding documents if it wasn't relevant To this information, and if it wasn't important. And why are you giving the Heisman to even Democrats who just want to look at this stuff ahead of time to find out what was compromised? Here's Senator Mark Warner cut one. Our job's not to figure out if somebody mishandled those, but our job is to make sure there's not.

an intelligence compromise. And while the Director of National Intelligence had been willing to brief us earlier, now that you've got the special counsel, the notion that we're going to be left in limbo and we can't do our job, that just cannot stand. I would think not.

So we want to find out what's going on. Do I think any legal charges are going to be brought against Trump, Pence?

Well, Biden, I think there's too much of a risk of people saying. This is inequity in front of the law. This is totally proof, double, triple, and quadruple proof that there's two sets of laws, one for Democrats, one for Republicans. I just don't see it. But in terms of are you concerned about it?

A poll was out now, NBC poll, concerned over the discoveries of classified documents. 67% are concerned that Biden had it, and 67% are concerned that Trump had it. Only 20% are not concerned.

So, for people saying that, oh, you guys in the media are just making too big a deal with this. No, clearly, you have a problem with this too, and I'm glad. Lastly, I just want to bring you to an exchange. Chuck Todd's got this new cottage industry. I meet the press unlike Tim Russert.

He just wants to get Republicans on and treat them miserably or abrasively, inaccurately, I think. I have no problem with sparring, but you just got to spar with Republicans too and Democrats too. That would be the key if you want big ratings. If not, just continue to do what you're doing and let the ratings on meet the press tank. Here he is with Jim Jordan talking about the classified documents and the investigations that the House will do.

CUD 7. They raided Trump's home. They haven't raided Biden's home. Because Biden didn't defy a subpoena, Congressman. He defied a subpoena.

By the way, he had 60 days of a subpoena before they actually executed him. President Trump had documents locked in a room with Secret Service protecting them. President Biden had documents in his garage and in a think tank that was funded by the Chinese. I think there's a difference. President Trump was the only guy who was actually president.

You talk about that. You're worried about the Chinese and 100%. Are you worried about the Chinese and Donald Trump? They took pictures. They took pictures of.

Are you at all worried about that? No, I'm not. But they took pictures of the documents at Trump's house. They took no pictures of documents. In fact, it's not just me who would like to know what went on here.

Senator Warner said it last week. He would like to get a briefing. He wants to see the documents. And guess what? The FBI is saying no, but they took pictures in Trump's home.

The issue is not whether what Joe Biden did. The issue is firemen under the law. That's the issue.

Okay, here's what Chuck Todd's saying. What about Donald Trump? Yeah, what about Donald Trump? They're already getting a full-blown investigation with the Department of Justice before they even got the majority. He's got the, they got majority literally for.

What, a week, two weeks, and they're going to look at the things that aren't being looked at, like the ongoing unfolding of classified documents that have taken place over the course of two decades as it relates to the president of the United States and what it could relate to international business. Why he can't back out and let Jim Jordan talk, I'm not really concerned. I'm a little concerned. And I'm not concerned about Donald Trump and China. Are you?

Donald Trump in China? Nobody's trade been tougher on China than Donald Trump.

So I'm just amazed. He did the same thing with Ron Johnson last week, but I give Jim Jordan credit and Ron Johnson credit for going on there.

Next. No one's ever going to make an excuse for what happened. I don't know anybody that isn't horrified by what happened. I don't know a cop that isn't horrified that what happened on January 7th, the video emerged last Friday night in Memphis, Tennessee. Uh when it turns out that uh Tyree Nichols was beaten to death.

And the way they treated it, these five guys, and the way they pulled him over, the way he got away, and then when they caught up to him again and beat him to death, literally beat him to death, he dies in the hospital. And they call up his mom and they what they say, we just want to tell you your son was drunk driving under the influence, and he's in the hospital, but you can't see him.

Meanwhile, the hospital calls them up and says, Why are you not here? Your son's in critical condition. And he said, Well, I was told he's under arrest. He's like, No, no, you belong here. He's not under arrest.

And next thing you know, the son dies. He never comes out of it. And these five are arrested, charged with murder. Two, four of the five get out. And they might all be out by now on bail.

I didn't think it was the best move telling everyone ahead of time it's coming out 7 o'clock on Friday. I stand corrected. It seems to be the most logical thing to do. But I did not think that this was going to be something that was going to be turned racial because five guys were black. The victim was black.

I don't know why it was pulled over. This guy looked like a model citizen, worked for FedEx. Photography is his hobby. No criminal record. Here's Ben Crump, though.

The Nicholas Family Attorney, cut eight. We know that there were other Members of the community that had been assaulted by this scorpion unit. One young man who said he was assaulted just four or five days before Tyree was killed, simply going to get pizza, Martha. He said they attacked him, pulled him out of the car, yelled profanity at him, and put a gun to his head. And he tried to report them twice to the Memphis Police Department.

His calls were not returned. And it is our belief that just maybe. Had they paid attention to him, That Tyree Nichols may not have been killed in this tragic manner. Right.

So I have no problem with that statement at all. And you do have to look at every case they were involved in because what really struck me is when they walked up to the car screaming at him as if they're in the middle of a full-throated fight to get out of the car, they estimated in 13 minutes 71 commands to Tyree. 71 commands. A lot of them were contradictory. Of course, he's not complying.

And then when you get the crap beat out of him, he ran. In the beginning, you say, well, why do you run? When you watch the video, you know exactly why he ran. And it all needs to be looked at. I get it.

But here's what I Hope does not happen. You can't get rid of qualified immunity. Which you have to get, you don't want to stop people from signing up to be a cop. You're going to get worse and worse people, or no people. New York City, for example, about 3,000 cops down.

Or they're going to stop proactive policing that goes into neighborhoods, tries to see problems before they happen, get there, get known to people. Instead, you're going to have cops back out like they did in Baltimore, and then all hell is going to break loose, nobody benefits. That's my big worry. And we'll talk more about this. As we find out more information, but I don't think anybody defends that action.

And I just don't know if you can regulate your way out of terrible behavior. It's all there. When we come back, 2024, the former President of the United States went out, appeared smaller events, one in New Hampshire, earlier one in South Carolina. Lindsey Graham, Governor McMaster, were both there in South Carolina. In New Hampshire, some observations were made with the President of the United States.

Anytime he brings up 2020, it's a total colossal waste of time. But he made some statements. We'll find out the reaction because now he's got some Republican opponents, not people that have any animus for him, but just rather get the nomination instead of him. You listen to the Brian Killmead show.

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It's the Ben Dominich Podcast. Subscribe and listen now by going to FoxNewsPodcasts.com. He's so busy, he'll make your head spin. It's Brian Kilmeade. One of the reasons he became the Republican nominee in 2016 is because he won the first primary state in your state of New Hampshire.

Could he do that again? Oh, he could. I don't think he will. He could. You know, one thing, I mean, obviously he started his campaign after the election in 22 that obviously had a lot of stumbling blocks that he was trying to overcome.

He comes to New Hampshire, and frankly, he gives a... very mundane speech. The response we received is he read his teleprompter, he stuck to the talking points, he went away.

So he's not really bringing that fire, that energy, I think, that a lot of folks saw in 16. I think folks understand that, you know, he's going to be a candidate, but he's also going to have to earn it. And that's New Hampshire. Even if you're the former president, you've got to come and earn it, person or person. I have no doubt about it.

Governor Sununu has been the truth teller so far. He talked about DeSantis. He said you shouldn't get into woke politics. Enough with all this stuff. It's not for you to crack down on places like Disney.

So that goes against the grain. And then he said with Donald Trump, most of his nominees were not successful, and that's going to hurt him. And they didn't like his message today. Yesterday, I think Sununu is in. He'll have no problem.

He is extremely confident and down to earth. Very proud of his record as governor. I'm sure Donald Trump has done. Donald Trump will do better when more people start attacking him. Then he'll attack back.

I'm not sure if the ground has really shifted. I do know he's winning in most polls. One of his biggest critics is Governor Kasich, who was one of the last to be eliminated just because he didn't quit, not that he was doing well. He thought he could do well in Ohio. He might technically have won Ohio, but then he just got trown, cut 17.

You know, he's he's well, I think he's fading. I've said that for a long time, but he's probably still has, I was talking to a friend of mine in New Hampshire yesterday, probably 25 to 30 percent support. He had a crowded field. He could come out of there. He could win.

But he's never going to be president of the United States. Thank God. He's not going to be that.

However, I mean, he's still a force in the party, but not as strong as a force. And his two appearances yesterday, both in New Hampshire and in South Carolina, were underwhelming. But just remember this. Donald Trump, somebody that I fought from the very beginning, is a vessel for people's frustrations and anger. And the person that can beat him will be somebody.

who is a vessel for something other than that and maybe a vessel for hope. And just remember all the positive things he did and very hard-pressed Governor Kasich to find people that say, well, I'm upset he controlled the border and did everything possible to do it, even though he was underfinanced by his Republican House or Republican Senate. I really am upset that he had all those trade deals cut. I'm upset with the Abraham Accords. I'm upset that he was tougher on China.

You might not like, I never liked when he abandoned the Kurds, but I love when he took out ISIS. Yeah. I don't have to agree with everything, but his intent was clear. I did not mind him calling out NATO. I did not mind them saying you got to start spending more.

I did not mind when he said Nordstream two is ridiculous. Germany, why are we watching your back? If you're going to go into bed with energy obligations to To Russia.

So If you're going to go at him on policy, I think Republicans are going to have a big problem. What you have to do is say what Christie said.

Well, we looked at the polling. He's just alienated too many people. He can't get elected. I'm sorry to say that. That might be a little different.

Here's more from Governor Sununu, cut 18. Oh, I don't have a timeline. I mean, obviously, folks are talking about it, but I really don't have a timeline. I'm spending a lot of time nationally trying to grow the party as Republicans. Talk to independents, talk to the next generation of potential Republican voters that right now no one is really reaching out to.

But I think we have a lot of hope and optimism and a way to kind of want them to be on our team. And they should want to be on our team. It's not just about the negativity that you see in the media and the press and that they've kind of been inundated with. It really is about good government. And I'm trying to, I think we've done that really well in New Hampshire, trying to bring that a little bit to the table.

And then down the road, if that leads into something bigger, so you're considering it? Yes. Right.

And and this is what he's 100% right. You might say that guy or that woman is so perfect. It's everything I agree. She or he agrees with it. 'Kay.

Then you have to say to yourself, Can that person win over votes of moderates and independents. And if you're saying, well, I don't care about moderate independence, okay, then just know, just so you know, if you don't care about moderate independence and you just want to blindly. Follow your candidate. And say it's that candidate or not. then I think you should be comfortable losing.

Because the candidates going to be effective. It's not necessarily one that's going to agree with you. It's going to agree with you going to get behind for the most part. That agrees with you. on the issues that matter most, your core principles, but the ones that can win over others.

And that's going to be the key. To the most successful candidate. On the other side, real quick, Joe Biden hasn't announced yet. We know that. We know it's going to wait till after the State of the Union.

Okay. But listen to Elizabeth Warren talking about Harris. Yes, the terrible vice president, CUT nineteen. Yes, he should run again. And he is running again because he has gotten a tremendous amount done.

I really want to defer. to what makes Biden comfortable on his team. But they need they have to be a team, and my sense is they are. I don't mean that by suggesting I think there are any problems. I think they are.

Huh? Are you kidding me? Why would you go out of your way to say that if you had a problem with Harris? And who doesn't? You did that on purpose.

You want people to know or give Joe Biden a signal, we're okay with you leaving the minority woman behind, and you want wouldn't alienate everyone. In fact, you could name her. I'll tell you what, Elizabeth Warren, whatever you want to say about her, she would not be wasting this opportunity to fill the gap on leadership and attending events and have the initiative. She knows issues, she's bright. I don't agree with, I disagree with 87% of the stuff she says, and I think that.

The her sto her view on our economies is um Is backwards to me degree? But I don't doubt that she's comfortable on all these issues. I'm just not comfortable with her conclusion. I'm not comfortable that Kamal Harris knows any issue about anything. She wants to be Queen of England.

Which really has Nothing but ceremonial. I mean, that's what she wants. She's not comfortable in any issue. I don't know what happened. All right, America's History in Perspective.

They've taken down another statue in Washington, D.C. of George Washington. John Cribb, author of The Rail Splitter, next, and then we'll come back and take your calls: 1-866-408-7669, Brian Kilmichelle. Information you want, truth you demand. This is the Brian Kill Me Show.

Hey, welcome back, everyone. Let's take a break from what's breaking in the news and talk about something that helps make our country what it is today. John Cribb knows all about it. He's maybe the nation's foremost Lincoln expert. He's got a brand new book out called The Rail Splitter.

You know, he also had the one out, Old Abe, that Mike Pence called the best Lincoln book he ever read.

So, John Cribb, at a time in which we need a great leader from an unlikely situation from an unlikely source, That is really what Lincoln was. If anyone looked at someone unlikely to become president, it had to be Lincoln when he started, and then, of course, his rise. John, welcome back. Thank you for having me. Mm-hmm.

Appreciate it. Before I forget, congratulations on the one-year anniversary of Of One Nation. It's a fantastic show. Oh, thanks so much, John Crew. Appreciate it.

This Saturday nights at 8 Eastern Time.

So, John, you do old Abe, the rail splitter, was what they used to sell Lincoln when he ran for office, because he really did. That's who he was. He used to want to run away from that image, but then they said, embrace it. America will embrace it. Why did you write this one?

I wrote it partly because something my grandfather said to me many years ago when I was much younger. He said, John, you know, if you really want to know the man, you've got to know the boy. In other words, you've got to know where somebody was from, how they grew up, what kind of shaped them as they were growing up. And so that's what the rail splitter is the story of Abraham Lincoln before he was president. And in a lot of ways, it's the most fascinating part of his life.

And so it starts him off as a teenager on the Indiana frontier in 1826, and then you're just at his side as he makes his way from the woods of Indiana to the prairies of Illinois and finally to the threshold of the White House. It is a fascinating story. It's an important story. In a lot of ways, it's the story of the American dream. Generations of Americans have known and loved it, and I don't want us to lose that.

Right.

And the other thing people should know about the Midwest right then, it was as rough and tumble as anything, right? Yeah, yeah, it was a rough onto place and He literally wrestles his way into prominence, and he has all kinds of, his life was really an adventure story early on. I mean, you know, twice he built big, huge flat boats with buddies and floated them all the way down the Mississippi River to sell some frontier produce like live pigs and corn whiskey in New Orleans. And that first trip, they were attacked by river pirates and had to fight them off.

So it's a great story, but it's also a very inspiring story. Right.

He had to do that, and he had this big wrestle against. The big one was against Armstrong, right? Jack Armstrong, exactly right. In that little village, frontier village of New Salem, where he really first went into politics and lived there for six years and was Six formative years in his life. Right.

They said, you know, Lincoln used such a great wrestler, take on the best wrestler around. And him and Jack Armstrong won at it. They're still disputed who won. Bottom line is, they both fought so well to each other, they end up being lifetime friends. Right.

And they ri the people there really admired the way that he handled himself in that wrestling match. And they did end up being lifetime friends. And Lincoln was great at seizing challenges and opportunities like that that came his way. And that's one of the lessons of his Life is that seizing opportunities. And Lincoln knew that this was a land of opportunity.

And this book is a good reminder of that. This is the land of opportunity. It still is. Right.

And in some way, it wouldn't matter where your circumstances are, you can overcome it, and who knows what heights you can reach.

So when you have a youth, his dad had no interest in him studying, but he had a thirst for education, correct? Yeah, he really did. In terms of formal schooling, he may be our least educated president. He used to say to his father, Sent him to school by littles. He said a little here and a little there.

And he had less than one year of schooling his entire life. And that took place in little. log cabin schoolhouses on the Kentucky and Indiana frontiers, but he loved learning, he loved reading. He literally would mo walk miles to get his uh hands on a book if he if he could. He used to say that my best friend is the man who can get me a book.

And so he was he was Self-taught. Um and uh and that that is a real inspirational story too. His mom dies young, but she was pro-education, as was his stepmom, right? Yes, really his stepmother, Sally Lincoln, is a very influential figure in his life. As I say, his mom dies young, Nancy hanks Lincoln, his father remarries, and his father takes a dim view of too much education.

He really wants Lincoln to be a farmer. He realizes he's a big, strong kid, and he thinks that that's the way to go. Land has always been the way you make it. And that's the last thing Lincoln wants us to be as a farmer. And his stepmother, Sally Lincoln, even though she has.

Little education herself. She really could not write, for example, but she saw that Lincoln, that thirst for learning, and realized there was something special there and made way for him to learn and to read. Right.

He loved the Bible, right? Loved to read the Bible? Yeah, yeah. The Bible, as like many Frontier families, the Bible was one of the few books that they actually had in the cabin there in Indiana. And Lincoln really was a creature of the Bible and Shakespeare.

Those are the two, probably the two sources of. of literature that influenced him the most. And of course the Bible in the long run gives him a great you know, that that he becomes a man of deep faith during the White House years, and that faith gives him, I think, the strength of a lot of the wisdom that he needs to be a great president.

So what r what got you so interested in Lincoln and all the historical figures? You know, uh, it goes way back to my mom when I was before I could even read. We'd sit on the Sophia in Spartanburg, South Carolina, where I grew up with me and my mom, my brother and sister, and she read all kinds of books and stories. And one of the books she read to us was a book called Abe Lincoln Frontier Boy by Augusta Stevenson. And I have vivid memories of her reading.

From that book and others about Lincoln out on the frontier, you know, living in a log cabin and splitting firewoods and all that stuff. And that just pulled me in, those stories. And it's a real lesson that those books that you're exposed to early on in life can really influence you for the rest of your life.

So, you know, obviously, when you look back in time, you always judge people by the time they live, not the time we're in. When did that change here? Yeah. And it's historians call that presentism. And I'm not sure exactly when it changed, but it sure has picked up speed in the last ten years or so.

And it's very dangerous to and to view To judge people through the lens of the 21st century, because once we go down that road, nobody survives. You know, everybody's a product of their times. And if we treat people to that kind of judgment, people who lived decades or centuries ago, nobody passes muster. And we want someday when people look back at us, we have to remember we do want to view people with straight lenses and see them for warts and all. But we have we can't zero in and nitpick.

We have to remember that take people the totality of their lives. And Lincoln, he was flogged like all of us. But when you stand back and look at his record, I mean, he was that giant hero that saved our country when it's literally falling apart. He led the fight to save our founding principles when a lot of people wanted to throw him overboard, and he helped lead the fight to free millions of enslaved Americans. That's a pretty good record.

I wouldn't want to go up against it myself. This business is very self-centered of looking at people through our own time. John Cribb, the historian and author of the brand new book, The Rail Splitter.

So, John, you chose to do this in a novel way, like bring him to life, meaning it's on the fiction side, but it's all based in fact, right? Yes. Yes. And I did that. Yeah.

For several reasons. One, there are tons, as you know, tons of great nonfiction books out there about Lincoln, including, I'd put a plug in for your book, President The Freedom Fighter, is a truly wonderful read. Um but I really did want to try to bring him to life. And you know fiction can do that way in ways that nonfiction can't. But I really spent a lot of time researching him to make sure that this is the real Lincoln.

You know, he's not chasing vampires or killing zombies or anything like that. This is the real Lincoln. And there's a date on the top of each chapter. And I think if you can just walk with him on that journey from log cabin, the log cabin to the White House and then with the rail splitter and then through with old Abe through his White House years. Uh and just take know his story as it goes along.

It's a great way to bring him alive and helps us love Lincoln. And that I think that's what we need to know. Those old heroes that are being torn off their pedestals now and taken out of school books Like Lincoln and Washington and Madison, they are part of those mystic cords of memory that Lincoln spoke of in the first inaugural address. They're part of the fabric of our nation. They're part of our common currency.

And if we lose them, we are in real trouble in this country. There's no question about it. The other thing is: is it possible to study Lincoln, study his presidency, and not. Uh not be angered by the fact that he never got to really fulfill his second term and what he could have done at our second most critical time. The first time was when the secession happens, but the second time was the coming back together.

Yeah, yeah. Isn't it an intriguing question? That historians have wondered about through the years because he was so devoted to the union. And reconciliation, forgiveness. Yeah, yeah.

He really, you know, this famous words in his second inaugural address: when a lot of people wanted revenge against the South, he said, no, no, we need to move forward with malice toward none and with charity for all, and bind up the nation's wounds. And that's really what he wanted. He didn't want to be just the president that could. Win the war. He wanted to be the president that could win the war and then keep the peace.

And he unfortunately. You know, did not get that chance because Reconstruction was a bad, bad time.

So, if you think about it, three of our best presidents, certainly most impactful, are almost accidental. I mean, you look at Lincoln. If they weren't dividing the vote back then with this new Republican Party, he probably didn't win. He didn't get majority of votes. And then you have Harry Truman.

Nobody thought that Harry Truman was presidential material. FDR put him on just basically to get Missouri and to replace another inadequate vice president. He ends up being, I think, a very great president. And then Teddy Roosevelt. They said, hey, you know, this guy's tearing up New York.

He's blowing up all these alliances we have. Let's make him vice president. McKinley takes him. And McKinley gets shot.

So and then no Lincoln's at the head of the class, but isn't it amazing in America's past, the unlikeliest people lead us through the darkest times? Yeah, it's almost it's almost like the the magic of America, isn't it? It really is. And and and I I suppose it's the wisdom of the people too, you have to say. But it is, as you say, Lincoln was a dark horse.

He won less than 40% of the popular vote when he was elected.

So, you know, people who claim that you're not a legitimate president if you don't win the majority of the vote need to remember Lincoln and some of those other great presidents. Right.

So you focus on the younger Lincoln and how it formed who he is today. But just lastly, just on that, if it wasn't for the Lincoln-Douglas debates where Lincoln lost, but he was ford himself so well and those debates were printed in every newspaper across the country, people understood how special he was. And sometimes in life, you know, your glory is delayed, but it's not denied. In that case, it was. He didn't become senator, but man, the best was yet to come.

Yes. And he told his friend David Locke after he lost that election. David Locke was a it was he wrote under the pen name Petroleum NASB, is one of Lincoln's favorite humorists. And he said, he said, we lost the election, but he said, I'm glad we had those debates. He said, We taught thousands of people who had never given slavery much of a thought to hate it.

And he said slavery is doomed now, and it's just a matter of time. Um so even though he lost Uh there's uh the election. Uh he uh those debates Make made him president. How did you handle John his relationship with his dad? You know, very much, I think the same way you did and the President of the Freedom Fighter, I pretty much take the same view.

I think Lincoln's dad, you know, they just didn't, there was a fundamental misunderstanding between them in that Lincoln's dad simply did not understand the value of education and Lincoln doing all this reading. And I think that sometimes, you know, he did probably beat Lincoln, and a lot of that went on on the frontier. And of course, Lincoln, when he died, didn't go to his funeral.

So there was that. But on the other hand, I think in a lot of ways he was a good father. He was definitely a hard worker. His friends and neighbors liked him, said he was a good guy, and he apparently had a really great sense of humor and could tell a great story. And Lincoln inherited that from his father, Tom Lincoln.

So we have Tom Lincoln to thank for that. John Cribb, congratulations on the rail splitter. Go out and get it. Another reason to love America. Great story.

Someone comes from nowhere to become possibly one of the greatest president of all time. John, thank you. Thank you, Brian. Thanks for all you do to help keep history alive for us. Absolutely.

By the way, just a little disturbing note: George Washington statue that was commissioned in 1832 by Andrew Jackson and was actually put in place, I think, in 1838. They're taking it down in Washington because they say that They don't like the look of it. They say, Wash doesn't have a shirt on in it. It looks like he's wearing a toga. We don't like it.

I just wish there was a more classy way to understand and respect the period in which it was assigned and the place in which it was. I don't necessarily think it's time to take it out of the Capitol. Any statue in 1832 marking his hundredth the hundredth uh his hundredth birthday.

Okay, you listen to the Brian Killmee Show. When we come back, it's your turn. You've had a lot to digest over the weekend, whether it's 2024, Donald Trump back again, or whether it was what's happening with the horrific incident over in Memphis. Don't move. Educating, entertaining, enlightening.

You're with Brian Kilmead. From his mouth to your ears, it's Brian Kilmade. Watching that video. You know, my my heart breaks for Tyree, my heart breaks for his family. Um but what I saw in that video wasn't policing.

Um what I saw in that video were individuals that were, you know, intent on imposing their force and their domination on an individual and it was uncalled for. No kidding. It was just horrific that we saw. I don't know anyone that feels any differently, and you just wonder if every case that the Scorpion Union is involved in is going to be looked at. But I also understand, too, that you need these special units to go into the roughest parts of town in order to protect the people In low-income areas, that might not be able to protect themselves.

And to get ahead of the game, you need proactive policing. I worry both those things are going to be pulled back. I also think about the 18 to 22-year-old or the guy or woman just getting out of college and thought, I love law enforcement. Maybe I'll be a police officer in my area. And your family's going to be saying, No, you don't want to do that.

Because they're talking about getting rid of qualified immunity, which means anybody with an iPhone that wants to misinterpret how you might be doing your police work. In a tough situation. The next thing you know, you're being sued and you're about to be going to jail. Why would you do that? On average, for example, in New York, I think you start at forty two thousand dollars a year.

You can't even afford to live in New York forty two dollars for forty two thousand dollars a year. What I thought was I thought when when the officers are all black. And the assailant is black. The one thing I thought we could say is per se fear the race would not be In this conversation. but Ben Kropp says it should be.

He is the attorney for the family, for the Nicholls family, cut ten. You don't see videos about white brothers and sisters who are unarmed. having this type of excessive force levied against them. I mean, think about all the videos we've seen, Martha. I believe it's part of.

the institutionalized police culture that makes it somehow allowed that they can use this type of excessive force and brutality against people of color. And it doesn't matter if the officers are black, Hispanic, or white. It's part of the culture, this biased culture that said this is allowed.

Well Well, my my feeling is this. Jason, I think his name was Jason Blair, was working for the New York Times and made up all these stories, made up all these sources, got a job at the best newspaper in the country.

Well, I would say the most well-known paper in the world, and a lot of people are very respected. I'm very disappointed in the Times in a lot of days, but nobody doubts their resources, and no one thinks they're playing a perfect game. But to think that they'd hire a reporter without credentials because they are totally duped, and then have him write stories that were totally made up, and he got away with it, it's terrible. But I don't hate everyone in journalism because of that. And I don't say that's so typical of a journalist to make things up.

I look at that as an anomaly. And if you look at the stats. This doesn't happen often, which is why it's news. It should be horrifying to everyone, hell to pay for everyone. But I also know what happened in Baltimore when they have some controversy, everybody pulls back, all hell breaks loose.

Everyone pulls back after the George Floyd riots, all hell breaks loose. And the people that pay the biggest price are the ones that need the most protection. And I think these elite units should exist. You just got to be supervised and be qualified. Who else wants to put their life on the line in plain clothes, in an unmarked car, to go into the worst sections on a daily basis with people that are often the roughest, toughest, and most lethal?

From the Fox News Radio Studios in Midtown Manhattan, it's the fastest-growing radio talk show. Brian In Kill Mead. All right, but welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Meet Show. We have the Super Bowl all set now, 57. I'll be going down there, bringing the show.

Friday and Monday will be. Coming to you from Arizona will be great. Eagles against the Chiefs. A lot of intrigue on both sides. The question is: how healthy will Patrick Mahomes be?

Two weeks to heal. This hour will be joined by Krista Thompson of Vanneville Kickoff, you know, with Fox, of course. And she'll be working in the Super Bowl too. She'll be here.

So that'll be great. And Michael Goodwin standing by. The President of the United States is going to meet with Kevin McCarthy this week on Wednesday. I cannot believe they really know each other. You would think that maybe the minority leader would have got to know the president, but they don't.

Let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I've said over and over again that he can't win a general election. And that's not speculation. That's based upon the polling that I was privy to pre the 2020 election and what we saw actually happen in the 2020 election.

And it's only gotten worse since then. 2024 intrigue building as Trump hits the road and Sununu, Pompeo, Haley, and Tim Scott make it clear they're likely to join him. But not to support him, to run against him, as 80-year-old Joe Biden is weeks away from doing the same. Number two. I believe it's part of the institutionalized police culture that makes it somehow allowed that they can use this type of excessive force and brutality against people of color.

Memphis mayhem, five cops all black charged with second-degree murder of an innocent man, Tyree Nichols. But some say race is a factor. Really? I'll go over the biggest worries that I have that could emerge from this. Number one.

Our job's not to figure out if somebody mishandled those, but our job is to make sure there's not. an intelligence compromise. Now that you've got the special counsel, the notion that we're going to be left in limbo and we can't do our job, that just cannot stand. That is an unhappy Democrat. Classified document debacle.

New revelations up to seriousness. Not only did President Biden, over the course of 20 years, dating back at least 16 to his days in the Senate, have classified information, but they also say his handwritten notes. Contain that. Does this explain why they won't brief anyone on the Intelligence Committee? Perhaps.

Let's bring in Michael Goodwin of the New York Post and Fox News contributor. Micah, welcome back. Good morning. Brian, thank you. How weird is it they took surrounding documents.

There was his daily planner, his daily schedule, and his handwritten notes.

Now we understand those handwritten notes might have classified information on it. Does that explain why even Senator Warner can't get briefed? Not completely. I mean, I think they have to be if there is any sense that there is classified information, you have to be careful. But you cannot cut Congress out of this Indefinitely.

And I think that there's the Justice Department seems to be just taking upon itself a wider and wider birth Of what it can and and what it must do. I mean, we, you know, that the whole issue of uh Censoring speech that the Department of Justice got involved in through the private companies, Twitter, and etc. It just seems to have happened on its own. There's no law that says it can do this. There's no habit, no practice, no precedent.

It just calls up Twitter and says, cancel that, you know, cancel that person's tweet. When did the government take for itself all of this power? I mean, it's almost like. this new technology is created, and the government sees that Americans are using it and says, oh, well, well then we can go there and put our heavy thumb on it.

So it seems to me, Brian, that what we're witnessing now with this classified document stuff is that nobody trusts the government now. Nobody particularly there are very few people who trust Donald Trump and probably just as few who trust Joe Biden on these issues, but nobody trusts the FBI. Nobody thinks the Department of Justice is playing it straight.

So there you have Democrats concerned that Congress has been cut out of the process. You certainly have Republicans who believe that Joe Biden has been treated more favorably than Donald Trump. for what appear to be similar offenses or at least allegations.

So I just think that Merrick Garland is making everything worse. through the way he's conducting these investigations. And then you give it to a special counsel, and there's supposed to be just darkness after that until a report surfaces. I mean, I think the government is counting on public trust, but I think they're about forty years behind the times. This is not the time we live in now.

People do not trust The government just because it says so. You have to earn that trust. And unfortunately, I think Merrick Garland is destroying more and more credibility that these law enforcement agencies desperately need to function. And the way he would do that again is if he charges Trump and not Biden in this situation when there's still so much more to learn.

So if you want to see. Hey, Brian, let me just stop you right there. One of the things, look at the leaks. look at the imbalance in the leaks. There were so many leaks about the Trump investigation, and there are no leaks about the Biden investigation.

Now how in the heck does that happen if it's really playing it straight at the FBI?

Well, yeah, and there's been a lot of leaks on Mike Pence, too, that these were background documents before he was supposed to meet a world leader. It was speculated to be Israel.

So we got that right away, but we're still we did get a leak. That said that some of his notes are going to look as classified, and that would be an issue. But you talk about an agenda. If Chuck Todd tried to beat up on Ron Johnson a week ago, he just looked uneducated. And here he is with Jim Jordan, cut seven.

They raided Trump's home. They haven't raided Biden's home. Because Biden didn't defy a subpoena, Congressman. He defied a subpoena. By the way, he had 60 days to provide a subpoena before they actually executed him.

President Trump had documents locked in a room with Secret Service protecting them. President Biden had documents in his garage and in a think tank that was funded by the Chinese. I think there's a difference. President Trump was the only guy who was actually president. You talk about that.

You're worried about the Chinese and 100%. Are you worried about the Chinese and Donald Trump? They took pictures. They took pictures of... Are you at all worried about that?

No, I'm not. But they took pictures of the documents at Trump's house. They took no pictures of documents. In fact, it's not just me who would like to know what went on here. Senator Warner said it last week.

He would like to get a briefing. He wants to see the documents. And guess what? The FBI is saying, no, but they took pictures. In Trump's home.

The issue is not whether what Joe Biden did is under the law. That's the issue.

Do you believe this? I don't mind a debate, but I mean he he thinks that the this is the equivalent. The Hunter Biden situation is equivalent to a vonca selling handbags. You know, Chuck Todd Brian, is a good example of how sort of the journalism has been corrupted by the propaganda arms of these networks.

So for Chuck Todd to be taking the the ass the side of the person who's not in the room, right, that's fine. You you basically in order to grill Jim Jordan, you take the side of Joe Biden, let's say. But when When Democrats are there, he doesn't take the side of Republicans. He's only taking the one side, and that is consistent. And that's where the propaganda has replaced the journalism.

So, look, I think Chuck Todd is kind of a dead letter for anybody who isn't a died-in-the-wool partisan. It's unfortunate that that's what our media has come to. But Chuck Todd, I think, is really a sign of the corruption of the media. And I'm not sure why Republicans even bother going on there anymore. Right.

Maybe they're going to stop because Chuck Todd would be smart to pick his spots. You don't have to brawl on every sentence. You've got to say, this is the very, but here's the issue. And you put a full screen up, and the full screen says, here are the four things about Donald Trump that we think should be investigated. What do you think?

Rather than run over what he's saying while he's saying it. I mean, it's very simple. It's Chris Wallace did that for a long time.

Now Shannon's doing it. Tim Russert did it. Would whoever it is provide the opposite. But don't run over the person because you don't like their network or the network that they're on a lot. I got to bring you to something else about 2024.

You know, the President's finally out and about. He got Lindsey Graham's support, Governor of South Carolina's support. Then he went to New Hampshire. Here's what Chris Christie said about the official launch of his campaign, Cut 16. I've said over and over again that he can't win a general election.

And that's not speculation. That's based upon the polling that I was privy to pre the twenty twenty election and what we saw actually happen in the twenty twenty election. And it's only gotten worse since then. Then add to it what you saw happen in twenty twenty two. The election deniers losing across the country.

Bad candidates like Mastriano in Pennsylvania dragging the entire Pennsylvania ticket down in a historic way. Kerry Lake, Blake Masters, Tim Michaels, Tudor Jones. We could go through an entire list. Loser, loser, loser, loser. And I think Republicans are recognizing that.

So, what do you think of his analysis? I think it's basically right. And I would just be more specific, though, that it's not just it's not Donald Trump's endorsement that is killing these candidates. It is his insistence that they say the twenty twenty election was stolen. That's what is a burden for in the swing states.

Swing voters in swing states. no matter how they feel about that, about what happened in twenty twenty, I think it's primarily a backwards looking revenge minded approach. And I think it doesn't interest people in the sense of I have new problems, I have problems now, and I am not worried about vindicating Donald Trump's view of the world, of what happened in twenty twenty. I want to look forward, not past. And I think that's the burden that is killing those candidates.

And I think Christy is fundamentally right that it is the thing that makes Donald Trump unelectable in twenty twenty four.

Now look, things can change, people can change, but as we sit here today, Brian, with the twenty twenty four Campaign just beginning, I think this is something that is going to prevent Donald Trump from ever being president again. Look, I think there are other issues, too, of course, one of them being that he can only serve one more term.

So the minute he's elected, he's a lame duck. I think that there are there are just too much water over the bridge for him to change people's minds. I don't think it's impossible, but I think it's highly unlikely. And so therefore, I basically agree with Chris Christie that it's the swing states that Trump cannot win in. I didn't read the context of his whole speech, but staying to the prompter and not going on wide range, look, I don't have a problem with that.

That's what Chris Sununu brought up. But there's a lot of people. I talked to Tim Scott on the Saturday show. That's as affirmative as I ever heard him. He looks like he's going to run.

Nikki Haley, Pompeo, looks like they're going to run. I think Chris Sununu is going to run.

So you put him in the fray, along with Mike Pence, who they're all set to launch, and Governor DeSantis is starting to staff up.

So that's going to be a formidable stage when they start debating. Absolutely. And probably Glenn Youngkin as well from the governor of Virginia.

So, yes, but they're in maybe Trump's strength, which is a big field and he's got a solid base of support. Even if you say it's only 25 or 30 percent of the Republican Party, what can happen in the primary system is if you can continually pool that 25 or 30 percent in a big field, you're likely to get the victory and the delegates that go with that. And over time, the others who may be very good candidates but don't look as though they can win, the money will dry up and they'll have to drop out. That is effectively how he won the last time, and it's how his candidates The Herschel Walkers and the Mastriano and the others, it's how they became the nominees of the party in the States, is that winning a crowded primary, it doesn't take a majority, it just takes a plurality. And that, I think, was the Trump formula before, and it could well be repeated this time if you have such a big field of interesting candidates, but none of whom can beat Donald Trump in a crowded field.

That's going to be the test. Right.

I think that the average voter has to ask themselves, who can win the general? Not who agrees with me the most. Who can win the general? That's what they should have pulled from 2022. Lastly, just real quick, Mayor Adams is now forcing all of his employees in New York City into critical race theory-inspired training.

They got to get it all done by March 6th. It's all mandatory. All New York City employees, the training will provide all New York City employees with a framework to understand the importance of racial equity. In the workplace. How disappointing is that?

Very. Um Yeah. My consistent criticism of Mayor Adams, whom I supported. And whom I voted for. Uh my consistent criticism is he keeps taking his eye off the ball.

And the ball is crime. that it is you can talk to a lot of people about what's wrong with New York, what are the problems, what is holding New York back, city and state. And the one thing that everyone agrees on is crime. And to the extent that you Spend an hour on other things and you don't spend it on crime to the extent that you put the police department, which presumably would be going through this critical race training theory. All of this is a waste of time, it's a dilution of energy, it's a dilution of resources, because unless people feel safe, They are not going to come to the city as a tourist, or they're not going to live here.

They're not going to shop here. It's just crazy that anybody in public life thinks anything else is nearly as important as crime. Absolutely. So I don't have no idea what he's talking about, but the word equity to me is radioactive today. Thanks so much, Michael Goodwin.

Appreciate it. My pleasure. Thank you, Brian. You got it. 1-866-408-7669.

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We are the most exceptional nation on earth. If there's traction for that story, I hope to go to another state and then another state and another state.

So we'll see what happens. But the good Lord's blessed me with living the American dream.

So it was an excellent chance. That was Tim Scott on One Nation on Saturday. I was asking him a bunch of questions. And, of course, the last one was about his interest because he's going to New Hampshire. He's going to Iowa.

And in the past, oh, Brian, I'm not even thinking past this.

Now, all of a sudden, he clearly is. He's got a lot of financial support. Big story from Charlie Gasparino that so far the major donors have avoided President Trump.

Now, if he starts winning these primaries, most of them will come back. But I think it's all about his messaging. And I got to read the context of his speech, the text in his speech. But if it's all about twenty twenty and they stole it, that's not going to work. But if he runs on his record what he was going to do, what he plans on doing, And what Joe Biden hasn't done.

It's got a strong case. But have a good he's gotta have a good time again. He was once having a great time, and a lot of it's out of his hands, I get it. When we come back. We talk about having a good time.

Let's talk about the Super Bowl. Krista Thompson's going to be here, one of the superstars of Fox Sports. And keep in mind, too, I'm going to be on outnumbered from 12 to 1. I know you'll be watching anyway. A radio show like no other.

It's Brian Kilmeid. Ball is bobbled and it's on the ground and loots. Who's gonna get it? He just dropped it. I mean, that was a good snap.

The Eagles have it. Ertz gonna give it to Scott. Racing around the edge. Scott is. In touchdown, Philadelphia.

Gonna sneak it again. Hurts looking for a push from behind. He is. Waiting for a signal in. Touchdown Eagles.

The Philadelphia Eagles. are going Back to the Super Bowl. And there you go. The Philadelphia Eagles going back to the Super Bowl, but the bigger story happened at night. I thought we were looking at overtime, but it ended up being, and for a morning show host, it was a tough decision.

But Carissa Thompson, I think you respect my decision to stay up. And deliver a sub-par performance on Monday in order to see the game live on Sunday. Absolutely. There is no excuse for you to ever go to bed when there are championship Sunday and the teams are going to the Super Bowl will be decided. And then I don't want you to find out in the morning.

Right.

And you also would think that show my, do you not think it shows a lack of maturity not going to bed? You think it's a more mature to finish out the game and then play tired all Monday. Unless you like excuses and you're not a guy who comes up with excuses.

So you're able to do both. My Monday morning quarterback for you is you made a wise decision. And Chris has really got her handful because I'm going to do outnumbered with her at noon. She's doing Fox News and the Fox family. You know her from Fox NFL.

She's a host of Fox NFL Kickoff. She also got a great podcast, Calm Down with Aaron and Carissa. And also, you're going to be working the Super Bowl, right? Yeah. So when do you get there?

What are you going to be doing?

Well, I'm going to just link up my itinerary with yours because I've been hearing all morning that you drew the short straw. You got to spend a week in Arizona? Oh, shucks. Right.

No, not a week. They're just sending me Thursday after the show. What? Yes, I know. Who do I need to talk to about this?

You gotta be out for the full experience, even as a Giants fan. You're a Giants fan. I'm a big Giants fan. You've done your research.

Well, it's gonna be hard for you. What what the hell happened with the Empire State Building? I mean, how is that acceptable? You need to, this is your city. Right.

And you need to tell me how that happens.

Well, for people that don't know, the Empire State Building, which is pretty famous, correct? Even though you were not born in New York and you know about the Empire State Building. Yes, I. King Kong and everything.

So they decided to light it up with Eagles colors. Then we find out it was Chiefs' colors too. I've never remembered that in my lifetime before. And to me, I think we have to take the building down.

Well, let's leave buildings intact. But I just think that we need to get to, you know, there's cameras all around that thing. I need to figure out which Eagles fan got into. Do you think there's like one guy that helps decide to light this building? I hope there's like a deflate gate kind of a situation with the one Eagles fan that was like, you know what I'm going to do?

Yeah, because I don't even care. That's cool that you want to do the Chiefs. That doesn't matter. You put the Chiefs, spangles up, whatever. But you can't put Philadelphia colors in the middle of New York City.

You can't do it. Giants played Philadelphia three times, Chris. I don't seem to remember what happened.

Well, you don't want to know what happened. The Eagles won all three times. I know. I interviewed Saquon Barkley prior to their divisional round game, and I was like, Why is this time going to be different? He's like, Well, let's just hope it is.

It obviously wasn't, and the Eagles are now playing in the Super Bowl. But hey, look, it's a good year for you guys. I'm a huge Dayball fan, and what he was able to do. Did you know he'd be sense he'd be this good when he was interviewing for the job and a coordinator up in Buffalo? I mean, look, there's the guys that have the DNA and what he was able to do up there in Buffalo, and he's a guy's guy.

I mean, he's the guy that sits with the groundskeeper because his father or his grandfather was a groundskeeper. I mean, he's the grab a beer, yeah, hang out at the bar. And we know, I mean, culture matters, and coaching matters. And who you have in that locker room, and he's a player's coach. And every guy that I talked to on that team was like, couldn't be happier that they get him to lead them.

And it's turned a corner. I don't need to tell you, it's been a minute. Right.

I know we're talking way too much about the Giants, but the last thing I'll add is: I went to the Jacksonville game.

Okay. And I watched Saquon have some great runs but not get out of bounds. And Dayball finds Saquon. Saquon, arguably their best player, and screams at them twice. Yeah, because no one should be exempt.

Right.

That's tough. There's a star, there's a star formula. A lot of times, screaming at the star is not the right one. But I think that sets the tone in the rest of the locker room: that no one's exempt, that you're going to hold everyone to the same standard, the same LeBron, the Michael Jordan, that whole thing. I think that you treat everyone the same and you get the respect of the guys in the locker room.

But, anyways, back to the Eagles. Yes. They are the best all-around team. It's hard to argue with them. I mean, on that defensive side of the ball, they led the league in sacks with 70, which is insane.

And that's just in the regular season. They're stacked Jalen Hurts, and good for him. You know, we live in a society that's like, what can you do for me lately? And all of the pundits around Jalen Hurts in his first few years. And Nick Siriani, again, going back to coaching, has done a heck of a job with that group.

But A.J. Brown, dude, I don't know how Tendency lets that guy go. I mean, it's a complete game changer for this offense. And they can do it on the ground. They can do it in the air.

I was really. Really bummed just for San Francisco. You know, I worked with John Lynch. He used to be in the booth when I was a sideline reporter and has done an incredible job in that organization as a GM, taking their team to the NFC Championship Game 3 over the last four years. It would have been nice to actually see that game be a contest.

But Brock Purdy, the Cinderella story, ended at 10:30, not midnight. But a lot of upside for Niners fans moving forward. I know they don't want to necessarily hear that today, but. The only person like you is a little like Geraldo. You have such a great answer.

I wanted to stop you four times. First off, I need to learn to shut up. No, no, no. It's so intriguing. Brock Purdy, I love that story.

You know, he's wearing street clothes, not dressing for these games. Last player taken, 236th or whatever. Yeah, I think it is. And he gets taken and he goes undefeated. And I watch him scanning the field as if this game is easy for him.

But they say he ruptured his owner nerve in it.

Now, think about this. You rupture it, you're in total pain, but you go out again because. There's no other quarterbacks, yet you can throw. It's unbelievable what was taking place.

Well, we were on a tech chain, actually. I host the Thursday night of coverage for Amazon, and Ryan Fitzpatrick, who, as we know, the journeyman in the NFL and 17 years in the league, and he was with us on the desk this year. But we were like, Fitz, do you have a private plane you can get here? And do you have any eligibility left? Because at this point, like even Steve Young had made a joke to put him in when Christian McCaffrey was sitting there with a playbook, I was like, This is where we're at.

And poor Josh Johnson, I mean, that's another journeyman in the league. But, like, you know, it was unfortunately, it was their storyline all year in injured quarterbacks. And it's how the year started is also how it ended. You know how sometimes they try to change things in the offseason competition committee? What about when playoffs start addressing three quarterbacks?

Well, Jimmy Garoppolo was like, I wish I had a helmet there. I mean, you know, he had hurt his ankle and, you know, questions about whether he could have won if he actually was in pads or not. But at that point, you know, that's. Mm. One in whatever, however, many, you know, thousands of games that that happens, where you're all the way down to a Christian McCaffrey, yeah, who you can put in at the quarterback position.

But yeah, it's unfortunate. I mean, there's nothing really more to say about it other than the fact that this is a team with a tremendous amount of upside, and you just look at it like they've been good for the last few years, they'll continue to be good. And you got to give it up for Brock Purdy. I mean, what he was able to do in stepping into an unenviable situation and really making a name. He's now Mr.

Relevant, not Mr. Irrelevant. Krissa Thompson's here, obviously, in studio.

So, and she's going to be outnumbered at the top of the hour. I've always outnumbered. Right.

You are outnumbered. Yeah. But in that show, I'll actually be the only guy. Because you'll have four women.

Well, I mean, I act like a guy, so, you know, I'm with you on that one. But I'm looking forward to it. Are you. You're one of these guys w if you're a woman that doesn't get rattled by guys, they say that that's a Guy's guy, a girl's guy. I am, I am, but that's the problem: that I end up being a guy in my relationship half the time, which is why I've got two divorces under my belt.

But enough about my personal life, you know. You did make a comment on the air about that. I forgot what you said, but it was funny as hell. You gotta, self-deprecation for me is the only way to get through. I've had some like not-so-great things happen in my life.

I always joke that I think I'm drafting first-rounders and they end up being busts.

So I shouldn't be a GM. I'm gonna leave the scouting report for significant others to someone else. I'm sure none of that is your fault. None. All right.

Good. That's what I'm gonna go with. Just back to something less interesting, football for a second. Patrick Mahomes with a high ankle sprain. When you hear high ankle sprain, That is a serious, just like turftoe, they pretend as if not serious.

It's extremely serious. Yep. High ankle sprain is extremely serious. For him to run that nine, was it nine yards at the end? Yeah, within the eighth.

The fourth and eight with eight seconds left to put him in position. It doesn't surprise me, though. We were talking on the pregame show. Charles Woodson said he wouldn't be surprised if Chad Henney went in because Michael Vick was talking about how much this injury, to your previous point, that high ankle sprain, how bad that hurts and how difficult it is, especially for a quarterback like Patrick Mahomes that does so much of his work outside the pocket in improvising. That said, he's a gamer.

This guy, you know what I mean? Like, get out there. It doesn't matter if that ankle was going to snap off. He wasn't going to miss a snap. And so for him to pick up that first down, obviously, you know, the Bengals didn't want that penalty, but it sets up the field goal.

And, you know, they go on to now their third Super Bowl in the last four seasons.

So excited for Andy Reid, too. The storyline there, you know, spending 10 years with. With the Kansas City Chiefs the last decade, and then 14 with the Philadelphia Eagles.

So going back, looking for his second Super Bowl win against his old team is a fun storyline. Let me ask you. What is it like knowing so many players well over the years? That just means I've been in this business a long time and I'm old. You know, I joked with Erin.

She had a sit-down with Brock Purdy before. Yes, who I co-host the podcast with. And her and I have been friends for over a decade, our time at ESPN and, of course, at Fox. But I said, Aaron, you and I could be Brock Purdy's mother. And that's not even a joke.

I mean, her and I are 40 and 44, respectfully. We have the same birthday, but we could be his mother. But I think it's awesome too to have been lucky enough. I mean, we love our jobs. And if you're lucky enough to stay in this business, the same way that players feel like if they're lucky enough to stay in the league long enough, because it's so cyclical, it's cool to cover guys that you watched come up through college and covered in college and now having success in the pros or even in the Brock Purdy situation.

Does it make, not that you're necessarily out in the critiquing business, does it make it harder to critique when you know that guy? Personally, and you see that he had an extremely bad game, and he gets benched, and it's obvious. Days not playing well, or have an attitude problem, and you kind of know the inside story. Yeah, I mean, I think for me, not coming from the, you know, I'm not a as a host, I'm less in the critical analytic part of it. But I have opinions, of course, on whether guys should be in or out, and that's part of the business.

The same way my mom had an old adage a long time ago: not everyone's gonna like you, Carissa, you're not gonna like everyone.

So, people have opinions on me as a host, right?

So, it's like you sit in that chair or you step on that field, or you know, whatever the respective position is when you put yourself out there, expect that there's gonna be pundits. But for me, what I love about sports is that it's kind of quantifiable. You know, for me, it's not just like you get an end, you get a winner, you get a loser. Yeah, and it's like you threw four picks. Like, I'm not making up that you had a bad game, you know.

So, uh, there are facts to support opinions most of the time in sports, right? Uh, what do you think betting has done to your job? It's uh, lowered my bank account. Uh, do you bet all the time? You do, oh, yeah.

I used to go to the racetrack with my. Grandpa, when I was a little girl, and he would just say, I'm a babysitting Carissa for the day. My grandma thought he was a saint. We'd end up at the track. Used to be Long Acres, turned into Emerald Downs up in Seattle, and then I've had an affinity for the ponies ever since.

But that has parlayed itself into other people, any of the Triple Crown, any of the races? I didn't know. And I've never seen it. Oh, that's a rare skill. I would have loved to.

I know that's the NBC umbrella or the TVG where I would have loved to, but the Derby, anyone that hasn't ever been to the Kentucky Derby, one of the greatest motor events. Yeah. It always falls on the first Saturday of May. Do you go as a civilian? Yeah, I do go as a civilian and a dysfunctional one at that.

I mean, the mint juleps stay a while. It's always around my birthday, so I use that as an excuse to be a complete degenerate. But it is, I love gambling responsibly, of course. I always have a thing, don't bet what I'm not willing to lose. But yeah, football, I'm going to always keep my eye on the sport because it's my favorite sport.

But I just love throwing money on anything. College basketball during the tournament, things like that. First weekend, I'll go to Vegas. There's nothing better than Las Vegas first weekend of the tournament. I'm shutting up now.

So, Chris, the other thing is from the anchor perspective, which I didn't know you were going to talk about personally, but that's even better. But from the anchor perspective, when we're talking about spreads and bet on this, and now that's an element in almost every scoreboard show, it still throws me. When, you know, remember Jimmy the Greek, you weren't, I'm older than you, but he used to be on with Brent Musberger and used to talk about spreads and betting. And I used to be like, I'm just into winter. And losses almost as if that's the underworld of sports.

I remember it's the overworld, right? And credit to Fox, because, like most things, they were you know not afraid to throw it out there when a lot of people wouldn't. And guess what happened after that? The ESPNs, everyone else, even having an official in the booth, Mike Pereira, right? That was one of Fox was one of the first people to do that.

So I mean, not just saying this is a suck of door company, but like I love being at a company, working for a company that's not afraid to do things that might be unpopular, but then. you know Imitation is the highest form of flattery, so it soon follows after that. But it's part of the game. I think that uh and it that's even what I loved about Adam Silver, um, you know, of course, the commissioner for the NBA, he's been a big proponent of uh allowing things to happen that are going to happen within his sport. Let's embrace it, let's control it, and then uh same thing as the NFL's a little moves at a little slower pace than that just because the shield is protective of the shield.

Um but I think it's good, I think it's good for the sport and again, like anything, responsib responsibly, gamble responsibly. Carissa Thompson, one more segment with you, and then we're going to move to television. I can't wait. Let's do it. Educating, entertaining, enlightening.

You're with Brian Kilmead. The more you listen, the more you'll know it's Brian Kilmead. Here's Butcher. For 45 yards. All the way, it's good.

It's over. It is over and the Kansas City Chiefs Have won it. Heading to the Super Bowl for the third time in four years. And the Kelsey brothers will play each other in the Super Bowl, right? Oh, God, you can't ask for better dudes than that.

They're so much fun. I remember I interviewed them actually in. Carissa Thompson's here still, bro. Hello? Yes, I still haven't stopped talking even in the commercial break.

In Cincinnati, you know, they're Ohio boys, and they're just great. I'm so excited for them. I can't imagine being their parents. And, you know, Travis and Jason's mom famously, when they were playing, I think it was last year or the year before, in playoff games, she flew, watched one in the morning, flew, got on a plane, watched the other one in the afternoon, and had the jersey that was split. But to now actually see them playing in the Super Bowl would be great.

So, Carissa, what do you think Tom Brady's doing next year?

Well, you know, we would be lucky to have that Fox contract come to fruition. You know, that he's... What's so bad about working for Fox? Why is he doing that? Hello?

I mean, all he's got to do is come to us. We'll tell him how great this plays is. And I mean, do you think he's going to be in the lunchroom? Is he going to be hanging out with you? Here's the thing.

I believe. Him when he says, I don't think he knows, right? After everything that happened last year, and he retires and the unretiring, everything personally that was going on, I think, and not knowing Tom Brady in this capacity, but I would imagine just from my outside view looking in that he's really going to think about whether he wants to come back. He's a competitor, he knows that he can still play, even if it's not at his highest level. Look at the need for a quarterback.

We're on to Josh Johnson last year, and with all due respect, you know, last game with the 49ers, to him. You know, he's played in the year 15 years, 14 different teams. I was hockey, he lost 15 pounds just from the stress while he was going through it. I mean, I gained weight during my divorce. I was so happy to be out of that relationship.

My God. But no, I think we would be lucky to have him at Fox. We would also still be lucky to have him in the NFL. I think that we have gotten this incredible front row seat to greatness. No, I mean, he's won more Super Bowls than organizations have even sniffed.

So, what he's done is incredible. I just hope that, you know, I grew up a huge Michael Jordan fan, and it pained me to see him in a wizards' uniform. Because he wasn't that good anymore? Yeah, it was more of that. Like, look, Brady puts on a Bucs uniform and goes and wins a Super Bowl.

So it's not necessarily about that. We've seen the Joe Montanas go to Kansas City and have a different uniform. It's just. Going out on top, you know, is how I like to see the athletes not being carried off. Because, you know, you leave this league one of two ways, whether they force you out or you get to decide.

So I hope it's his decision. Unless it's Tom Brady. Exactly. Miami or Las Vegas, probably. We'll see.

We will see. It'll keep an interesting offseason for usual that way. Huh. From high atop Fox News headquarters in New York City, always seeking solutions, never sowing division. It's Brian Killmead.

Hi, boy. Welcome to the latest moments of the Brian Kill Mead Show. Hope you had a fantastic weekend. Judging, we, of course, watched the disturbing video that came out on Friday from January 7th. No one's pleased by it.

Everyone's horrified by it, even people in law enforcement. In a matter of moments, I'll talk to Commissioner Pat Ryder of Nassau County in just a moment. Brett Baer at the bottom of the hour, too, will bring us inside what we can expect politically because we know this week we're going to see the president of the United States actually meet with a Republican, and it's going to be Kevin McCarthy. Amongst their topic is going to be the debt ceiling, and the president's going to pretend as if he hasn't negotiated with that for the last 30 years. He's going to say, just give me a clean raise instead of looking at spending.

Which everyone should be on board with, even if it's some tough decisions.

Meanwhile, the President of the United States is also going to be in Baltimore today to talk about an infrastructure project that hasn't yet started, but it's going to be rebuilding a tunnel.

So let's get to the big three.

Now, with the stories you need to know, it's Brian's big three. Number three. I've said over and over again that he can't win a general election. And that's not speculation. That's based upon the polling that I was privy to pre the 2020 election and what we saw actually happen in the 2020 election.

And it's only gotten worse since then. And that's Chris Christie, 2024 intrigue building big time. As the president, former president hits the road, New Hampshire, as well as South Carolina. And Governor Sununu, Mike Pompeo, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott make it clear they are likely to join him, but not to help him, but to run against him. As on the Democratic side, 80-year-old Joe Biden is weeks away from making that announcement.

But guess there's some intrigue about the running mate. Number two. I believe it's part of the institutionalized police culture that makes it somehow allowed that they can use this type of excessive force and brutality against people of color. Well, let me see. Memphis mayhem, five cops all black charged with the second-degree murder of an innocent man, Tyree Nichols.

But some say race is a factor. Really? I'll go over my biggest worries that could emerge from all this. Number one. Wrong.

Our job's not to figure out if somebody mishandled those, but our job is to make sure there's not an intelligence compromise.

Now that you've got the special counsel, the notion that We're going to be left in limbo and we can't do our job. That just cannot stand. It's true. Mark Warner, Democrat, classified document debacle. New revelation ups the seriousness.

Not only did the president have documents dating back over 16 years to his days as senator, but also get this had classified information with his handwritten notes.

So we recopied them over. Does this explain why they won't brief the Intelligence Committee? Perhaps. So I'm watching all this unfold from a civilian perspective, and I'm seeing things that I see wrong. But I'm both more fascinated by the amount of people in law enforcement who are writing me saying, whatever you do, you can't defend this action.

And I'm talking about what happened what happened with the Memphis situation, where Tyra Nichols was beaten to death over the course of two interactions with this so-called Scorpion unit, which is an acronym for an elite unit that goes into the worst sections to take out in a very rough neighborhood, so to speak. With me right now is Commissioner Pat Ryder. As you know, when something like this happens, Commissioner, people think it's just Memphis. Absolutely not. We saw demonstrations across the country.

What was your reaction first off to the incident, and what has it been like in Nassau County, New York?

Well, first of all, Brian, good morning, and thank you for having me on because I think this message is important. Nobody hates a bad cop more than a good cop. We people like what these five officers did down in Memphis, put a target on every cop in in the United States. And you know, it doesn't matter what race, religion, agenda. They wear a blue uniform and they're held to a higher standard.

I was horrified by when I saw it. I've seen things like Rodney King. I've been around when Rodney King happened. I've been around when George Floyd happened. And those two also horrified us.

But when you watch the actions of these officers. The whole Situation, and I know there's been experts on speaking about this all over. Nobody is an expert in law enforcement more than a current member because it changes every day. The laws change. Once you have control of that individual, It's over.

You don't get to throw an extra punch. You don't get to take an extra shot at this guy. It's over. Control is the key to it. They, and you will sometimes see five to six cops to arrest somebody.

It may take that. But we're not taught to punch someone in the face or to hit somebody in the back with our collapsible baton. when he's not he's not complying, when you have both arms held out. You the officers were holding both arms and they're cracking him in the back with their nightstick. And then while he's on the ground and they got him in control, they say, step back so I can spray mace in his face.

That's not how it's supposed to work.

So the training. Went out the window. I don't know what training Memphis sees. I'm sure they're a good police department, but the training on these individuals went right out the window, and they hurt all of law enforcement in this country. They did, and I'll get to that.

I also saw this stat. They said that they found the officers shouted 71 commands during the 13-minute period before they responded over the radio that Mr. Nichols was officially in custody. The orders were issued at two different locations: one near Nichols' vehicle and the other in the area where he fled, where he was severely beaten. The orders were often simultaneously contradictory: get down, lay down, what are you doing?

On your stomach, stand up, where are you looking?

So they were all over the place. In the beginning, He's saying, What are you guys doing?

So, if he was reckless driving, which is not proven, they told his parents he was under the influence. There's no proof of that. And then, when you look at his record, Commissioner Ryder, it turns out the guy's got nothing on his record, full-time at FedEx, part-time photographer. He was yelling for his mom because his mom was only 80 yards away. That that's what that's what that's what Gets to your soul when they talk about how it's to the core of you when you watch this and how it upsets you.

You know, these guys, there are standard commands that you give. Again, part of training. Police, don't move. Police, Lynn, give me your hands. Police.

identifying over and over who you are and taking control. But when there's putting out over the radar that he's under c he's in control, and again, I don't know what happened in the beginning, so I can't comment on if there was a reckless driving or not. I just know that they took him out of the car, they got him on the ground, he's in control. That's when they should have placed the handcuffs on him, but instead, he gets up. because they're too busy tasing them or too busy spraying them with base.

that he gets up and he runs and he gets loose again. That's because they again, they were not looking to control the individual. It was almost like it was time to even the score. And again, that hurts all of us here in law enforcement.

So on that incident in particular, he got away, they catch up to him and beat him senseless, and more people come, including firefighters in their fire department, the EMTs, and they watch.

Now you're a commissioner, so no one outranks you. How do you deal with a superior officer or or Or you walk up on a unit and the Scorpion Union is beating the hell out of this guy and you wonder what's going on here. You know what's wrong. How do you handle it when these guys outrank you?

So So every single officer, and again, I know people talk to where was the supervisor, where was the, you know, it's not a perfect world. The supervisor can't be at every scene, and I don't know who the, but the senior man usually takes over. Every single officer is held to a standard that they should they know that they cannot watch this happen. They know that they can't stand back and let a crime be committed. They are just as guilty as the person who threw the punch.

If you're standing by and letting it happen. Your job is to intervene, stop it, and put an end to it. And obviously, we saw there they did not, they all stood by. The individual was cuffed on the floor. The medics should have intervened more, should have called.

I don't know if they called it. Can you do that, Commissioner? Bring me to a scene, a chaotic scene. And if you're if you're a medic, can a medic walk up and to To a sergeant and say, Sergeant, get out of the way. This guy's in cardiac arrest.

Get out of the way. His arm's broken, or you hurt him enough. Stop hitting him. This guy's gonna die. Can you do that to a cop if you're a firefighter?

Absolutely, because it's about life, life and death. That's what we protect and serve, preserve life. When we get to a scene, the medic steps in and says, hey, I need to do, you know, what You're having a cardiac arrest. They got a broken arm. I need to administer first aid.

They get to step in. again, once the individual is controlled. And again, control is about placing handcuffs and sometimes they'll even ask us to uncuff them. And sometimes we will, but we'll do it with other officers standing there. We'll cuff both hands to the side of the gurney, whatever we need to do to make him controlled so that the first aid can be administered.

They should have jumped in Set that person up and started to administer first aid to him when he was sitting up against the car and kept falling over.

So I want you to hear Ben Crump, the Nichols family attorney with Martha Raditz on ABC, Cut Nine.

So you believe there was racial bias towards Tyree, even though all five of those officers who've been charged with second-degree murder are black? Absolutely, because when you think about it, As I've said previously, in my 25 years of doing this civil rights law all across America, Martha. It is not the race of the police officer that is the determining factor whether they're going to engage in excessive use of force. but it is the race of the citizen and oftentimes it's the black and brown citizens that bear the brunt of the brutality. Commissioner Ryder, do you understand that perspective?

Black, these are five black officers, a black victim who dies. And races involved?

So obviously we're held to that standard. We're officers that wear a blue uniform. It doesn't matter what race we are. right we're held to that standard in this case the victim was black What they're trying to do is make it a racial incident and say that there is systemic racism through law enforcement. Every single occupation in this country have bad people.

Bad people does not mean the organization is bad. Yeah. Can we do better in law enforcement? Absolutely. And I'm going to tell you what, the biggest issue that I think is something that runs through this country.

the different standards of training that goes on. There should be a standard throughout the nation that we all must follow. And it's not. And because it's not being followed, I don't know how Memphis trained. I don't know how New York City trains.

I do New York City because I was there, but I don't know how Suffolk trains. I know how Nassa County trains. And we hold our members to a standard that's above the law. But you write your own curriculum, right? Do you write your own curriculum?

We follow a state curriculum and then we add a A couple of hundred hours more of our own curriculum about what we want done. But the standard should be a national standard about how you de-escalate, when you're allowed to use deadly physical force, when you're allowed to use your taser. And I heard somebody speak about the taser over the weekend and say that you can't dry stun somebody with a taser, it shoots two prongs out. That's not true. You can dry stun somebody.

But every time you're-I don't know what that means. Could you say that again?

So when you place the taser, like the point of the taser, up against somebody, it's just like putting your tongue on a mat on a battery. The two points meet, and you're gonna get shocked. You can do that with a gun. You don't have to pull the trigger, but every time you pull the trigger, it's recorded. And then when that's downloaded, you'll know how many times and for how long they use that TASA.

That's all part of being transparent. That's all part of having accountability. And again, these are standards that should be national standards and are being recorded and given out.

So they're talking about police reform again, and they're also talking about qualified immunity. Qualified immunity does what? They want to take that away from you guys. What would that do for recruiting and for your people? Any time that you're not going to back up your employee and you're not going to stand by your employee and say that we're going to take that qualified immunity.

So you end up being involved in a shooting that we're not going to back you up from the liable side.

Well, now I'm not only putting myself at risk, I'm putting my whole family at risk. The livelihood of my livelihood, but then also now my house, my car, everything opens up if the department does not. You know, indemnify me. And in most cases, like in our county, we vote and then we will indemnify those in the indemnification meeting to see if they reach the standard. If they abused their authority or they did something that extreme wrong, we would turn around and say, No, we're not indemnifying you, you're on your own.

You know, because you went above and beyond, you broke the rules. Commissioner Pat Ryder here of Nassau County.

So over the weekend in New York City, there were protests.

Some one got one police cruiser got smashed. The windows got smashed. Another cop, this one woman, punched three cops. punched three cops and got out the same day, without bail.

So, I mean, I would I can never picture the mindset of punching one police officer ever, let alone three, and get away with it. I know that's a minor thing in the big picture, but isn't that part of the ultimate di the disrespect with the uniform? Absolutely. And that's what's happening because the national message is that defund the police and let's not support our police. Here in Nassau County, we have a great county, we have a great county executive, and our politicians all support law enforcement.

Other places around the country, when they allow this to happen, you start to have a morale issue. When you have a morale issue, people will tell you, I don't want that job. You know, and so now you got to rebuild it. And I know in the city of New York, Commissioner Keyshawn Sewell, who's a personal friend, is doing everything she can to keep the morale high and keep the officers going out and being professionals and doing their jobs. And it's tough.

It's tough in an environment when you may have a you know a city council that's not supporting you the way locally here I get the support from our council. Right, you don't get it from Albany either because they're the ones who did these no-cash bail laws. Even the governor wants to switch it, but with the supermajority in this state, they're not going to be able to. And also, you talk to me about cases.

So, Commissioner Ryder, you find me, you want to build the case against me, you think I'm a bad guy, but you only have a certain amount of time to build that case, correct? I got 14 days after indictment to turn everything over, everything.

So, every part of my case, once you've been arrested and indicted, you went to a raiment, not indictment, excuse me, a raiment. Once I get you to enrament, I got 14 days to turn everything over to the defense counsel. Everything. That means the scene, the photos from the scene, who the undercover was, and that puts everybody in jeopardy. But again, it's something that we've met the standard here.

It's a struggle every day because when we're spending time doing that, we're not spending time going after the bad guy. Lastly, did you see any demonstrations that threatened to get out of control over the weekend in Assor County? We had one at the courthouse last night. It was peaceful, and we welcome peaceful protests here in Nassau County. It's the people get the right to exercise their First Amendment right.

We will not tolerate criminal mischief and violence. And nor should we. And I think for the mo even during the George Floyd, we had an excellent. Approach towards handling the protests, over 350 protests, no damage, no violence. And everybody got to exercise that First Amendment right.

Commissioner Pat Ryder, thanks so much. Appreciate the policing 101 course you just gave our audience. Thank you. You got it. Thanks, Brent.

You got it. 1866-408-7669. When we come back, I'll take your calls on that. Brett Barrels will bring us inside the political ramifications of what's going on this week, from the debt ceiling going up to meeting with Kevin McCarthy to the more and more getting set to launch their 2024. Quest to get the Republican nomination and those that might challenge President Biden.

And the interesting comments Elizabeth Warren just made about Kamala Harris. Don't move. Learning something new every day on the Brian Kill Meat Show. Radio that makes you think. This is the Brian Kill Me Chow.

Yes, he should run again. And he is running again. Because he has gotten a tremendous amount done. Could Kamala Harris be the his choice the second time around? You know, I I really want to defer.

to what makes Biden comfortable on his team. But they need they have to be a team, and my sense is they are. I don't mean that by suggesting I think there are any problems, I think they are. Why does she always feel like when Elizabeth Warren talks to you, it's a children's story? Not that I'm against children's stories, but it's always as if And also, I find it just stunning that she went out of her way not to just endorse the ticket.

And if she really wanted to and was worried about the ticket, say, Como Harris seems overhead. But for her to say, well, that's up to Joe. Clearly, Joe Biden is going to stick with Harris. For Elizabeth Warren to put it out there creates nothing but stress, I guess, within the Democratic Party, which I embrace. Maybe she wants to be the running mate?

But I mean Kamal Harris is he's you've known her for years but would not endorse her So I thought that was noteworthy. I'm going to bring that up to Brett Baer. Brett Baer also has a big interview with Boris Johnson that airs tonight, the former UK Prime Minister. And he's gonna be joining me next. Don't move.

Breaking news, unique opinions. Hear it all on the Brian Kill Me Show. I've said it. over and over again that he can't win a general election. And that's not speculation.

That's based upon the polling that I was privy to pre the 2020 election. And what we saw actually happen in the 2020 election. And it's only gotten worse since then. Then add to it what you saw happen in 2022. The election deniers losing across the country.

Bad candidates like Mastriano in Pennsylvania dragging the entire Pennsylvania ticket down in a historic way. Kerry Lake, Blake Masters, Tim Michaels, Tudor Jones. We could go through an entire list. Loser, loser, loser, loser. And I think Republicans are recognizing that.

That is Governor Chris Christie putting on his analyst hat, but he could be a competitor of President Trump. Joining me now is Brett Baer, host of Special Report, a big interview with Boris Johnson tomorrow night, which is going to be interesting because so much is going on in the U.K. right now as they try to stand up their economy. You think we're struggling? Look at them.

Brett, welcome back. What do you think of Chris Christie's analysis? Do you think that it's going to be a much harder time for Donald Trump this time? I think so, but you look at the polls. I mean, he's still leading in a number of these polls as far as Republican primary.

Contenders. Others have to sign us up, but Trump is a factor and No, he'll always be a factor. I don't think you have to you can count him out. I mean, it's it's even if his base is from thirty-five to twenty-five, Um you get enough people in a primary field and That's all you need. I know.

So far, I was pretty amazed that Mike Pompeo seems ready to basically jump in, Nikki Haley too. And here's what Tim Scott told me on Saturday night about him possibly jumping in much more definitive than I thought. It is time for us to give back to uniting this country. And if we think about the things that unite this country, all of us want the next generation to be better off than this generation. All of us want to be able to live where you want to live and succeed based on your efforts, not because the game is fixed in your favor.

The good news is, this is America. We are the most exceptional nation on earth. If there's traction for that story, I hope to go to another state and then another state and another state.

So we'll see what happens. But the good Lord's blessed me with living the American dream.

And I think he's going to Iowa and New Hampshire. I think Tim Scott's got a lot of momentum. I mean, he's got a lot of money, I should say. He's got a lot of money, and we'll see how his campaign organization turns out. He's really impressive.

I mean, you've seen him talk, give speeches. He gave uh a great speech at the RNC. He's Yeah. you know, one of the stars of the Republican Party. is somebody who is going to be factor when you get into primary politics.

Yeah, we'll see how that takes shape. I was also struck by what Elizabeth Warren said yesterday when she was asked about Joe Biden running again, Cut 19. Yes, he should run again, and he is running again, because he has gotten a tremendous amount done. Should Kamala Harris be the his choice the second time around? I really want to defer.

To what makes Biden comfortable on his team. But they have to be a team, and my sense is they are. I don't mean that by suggesting I think there are any problems. I think they are. What is she talking about?

That was totally unnecessary. She just blew up Kamala Harris. Yeah, I don't think there's any love lost with Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party, and clearly that's evident by what she was saying. I think, you know, listen, I think both of them are going to run again. I I think Biden's running again.

I don't think he's tossing comic comparison as VP if he does Yeah. does that. But there's a lot of Democrats really who'd love to give it a shot if he doesn't run again. I I don't think that that's the case though. At least that's the signals we're getting.

I know, it's it's pretty amazing, though. Maybe she was the battering ram to say start bringing up the fact that he should dump her, or she's saying that, you know, I would have taken much more advantage of an eighty-year-old president that seems to be willing to take his hands off the wheel a lot.

So she clearly has not filled that gap. Wh do you think that she would have when she was named? Yeah. you know, she's got a lot of vulnerabilities and and the way that she, you know, presents, uh, the way that the Democratic Party looks at her I think they at this point would much rather have Pete Buttigieg In the second spot. Yeah.

Listen, it it is what it is, and and I think you're going to see in the next few weeks. after the State of the Union, President Biden run again. No question.

So, General Mike Minahan, the commander in the Air Mobility Command, said this in a memo. I hope I'm wrong, but my gut tells me we will fight in 2025, meaning Chinese President Xi secured his third term and set the war council October 2022. Taiwan's presidential elections 2024 will offer Xi a reason. U.S. United States presidential election 2024.

The U.S. will be distracted. Xi's team, reason, and opportunity are all aligned in 2025. He went on to say to everyone to get your affairs basically in order legally and seek counsel if you don't. How significant is that statement?

I mean, it's pretty significant. I think it's um it's Um, the major statement about um, you know, the his status. And what China's going to do. It's pretty amazing if you think about it. Here's what Michael McCall said: Cut 25.

I hope he's wrong as well. I think he's right, though. Unfortunately, I mean, China is mounting.

Well, I think China is looking at reunification of Taiwan, right? That's how they call it. There are several ways to do that. The first one is to influence the election that will take place a year from today. Present-size party is running for re-election.

China is hitting them hard, saying they're a proxy of the United States to go to war with China. If they succeed in that effort, like Hong Kong without a shot fired, but if they don't win in that one, they are going to look at a military invasion, in my judgment. We have to be prepared for this.

So, those two things on top of each other, and not that anything's ever been ratcheted down between them, I think it gives a new urgency. for us to get The defensive weapons necessary for Tehran to defend itself. They seem to be gummed up right now, even though they've been green lighted. Yes, I agree with you. And there's a lot of concern about the ability to get these weapons because we're producing and sending weapons to Ukraine.

Stockpiles are low and Yes. You know, if you think about how people talk about this threat from China, it's changed in recent months. It's much more urgent. Interesting. Lastly, on Ukraine, Robert Gates talking on Meet the Press over the weekend about what we're doing and what we're not, and the pace in which we're giving Ukraine weapons.

Cut 26. The only thing I would have said is that a lot of this could have been done sooner. And they're talking about it potentially being six months, a year, or more before the Abrams tanks get there. I think the key thing about the Abrams tank decision was that it unlocked the Germans being able to provide totally. The Abrams tanks are probably not going to make that much of a difference when we're talking 37 versus how many leopard tanks that we want to get over there now.

And our allies, Poland, Germany and others, have hundreds of these leopard tanks, which are very good tanks.

So he's upset about the pace. Condoleezza Rice, also upset about the pace. Have you heard that in military circles? Pentagon used to be your beat, Brett. Yeah, it's there is upset about they should have been in there earlier, sooner.

A lot of people are upset about that. But now stuff is moving, and they're right that the Abrams tanks was never it was never about the actual tanks. It was about the signal that the U.S. was sending in first and opening the door, the floodgates to um You know, Germany and Poland and others. All right, so lastly.

Matt Taibbi was on with me on Saturday night, and he talked about his latest observation and reporting as it relates to Elon Musk inviting him over there to see the Twitter files. And he talked about Hamilton sixty eight, Mike Morrell, Former Russian ambassador Mike McFaul, Hillary Clinton's former chief of staff John Podesta, excuse me, head of her reelection, Bill Kristol from Weekly Standard, obviously a Republican, but all have one thing in common. They hate Trump and feared he'd win again.

So they formed together this clandestine group to go out and take any positive conservative or Trump message and attribute it to Russian bots. And then you watch what happened after. You watch other media outlets pick up the same thing, run with the same storyline. When Twitter got involved and said to lawmakers, this is not Russian bots, there's no indication. This is just natural trending.

These are actual stories. They were ignored from Blumenthal to Adam Schiff on down.

So I'm not sure in this news cycle it's getting the heat it deserves, but these are some names that you would not think that would be involved in something so blatantly partisan. You're right. I mean, I think there's you go back to the blocking of the Hunter Biden story and the blocking of other stories. You wouldn't think that the list of people would include People like Leon Panetta or other intelligence experts, but they now acknowledge that they didn't really have knowledge. They just thought that they should sign on to that letter.

You know, listen, we've talked about it a lot. Trump broke a lot of people because of the emotion of. You know, not wanting him to succeed. And those are some of them. And so.

Uh Bret, you're going to have a chance to sit down with Boris Johnson. What can we expect?

Well, listen, he has a lot of knowledge. He obviously has a lot of information about Ukraine. He was the first world leader to go visit Zelensky.

So he's going to come on and talk about the state of World affairs and also what's happening in the UK, which is, you know, we think we're messy, they're pretty much messy themselves. They had a prime minister. Prime Minister for about ten days. We had we had a a military official who said informed the UK you're no longer considered an elite fighting unit. By the way, you've been defunding your military, if I could just paraphrase.

That must be tough to handle. Yeah. That's a big deal if you get uh talked about like that. Listen, um they're they're a big ally. He's gonna have some interesting things to say, so it should be should be good.

It's a busy week on um special report, but I leave Wednesday, Brian, to go play in the ATT at Pebble Beach.

So I am trying to also get my golf gaming gear. Where is the game right now? Like, where is it Brett Bear level? Yeah, it's it's there. I'm a two.

I'm a walking wallet, but I'm a two. What can we expect?

I think good things. I don't know who my partner's going to be, but I will inform you and you guys can track where we are. Finally, get the golf coverage we need. Might you leave and go if they if the live tour gives you a huge bonus, will you leave with so many others? I couldn't do it.

Special reports to home. All right, you got it.

Okay, you know what? You might want to play hardball, and this way you could have Greg Norman make you an offer, and then try to get your numbers up at Fox. I like that. You could be my agent. All right, I'm going to work on it.

Brett Baird, thanks so much. All right, special report. Watch six o'clock every single day. And you got Boris Johnson there too.

So just as we were talking before about what was going on in China, I had not really talked about that much today, but this thing with China is getting pretty serious in that they really believe that they need to absorb Taiwan. Not only do they want to absorb it, it's an example of a thriving democracy on their doorstep. It's also an example of something they need. They need to corner the market on tech. And with these chips that they have there and the success that they've had, if they absorb it like they did Hong Kong, they see nothing but upside.

And they look at around and say, What are you going to do? And if they are doing this, if they do do Taiwan, what is going to stop them from beginning to swallow up the Philippine Islands? Does this sound familiar? This is why Japan, I think, has quadrupled their defense budget, which is freaked China the heck out because that's the last thing they want is a muscly, a muscled-up Japan. But we need it.

We need it from South Korea too. And China will Bulk up North Korea, even though I think that they really, I do believe some of those reports are true, that they really do not control North Korea, that they are a wild card to them.

So, those are some of the things that we're looking at today because when the U.S. Within two years, has a general like Mike Minahan, a commander, come out and say, This is what I see over the last two years, and go up to the people that work for him and says, Go ahead, lay out your personal affairs, handle it, and if you need any help, meaning you will, There's a legal unit, legal services that are going to be available. They also say we're going to be training extremely hard and aggressive, meaning something could happen during training.

So, that to me is a military that understands it. My feeling is the Pentagon doesn't. If the men and women who are fighting every day or out there on the front lines, whether it's you're in chips or on feet, You guys get it. But I feel like At the Pentagon in Washington, they don't. And the President of the United States is Is reacting in Ukraine, not certainly not leading the way as the tip of the fear, trying to think out of the box.

All right, so I'm going to be at number to the top of the air. We come back, you're going to find out there's more to know and get a great sparring session between Brian Cranston. and none other than Bill Moore. And once again, I'm on Bill Moore's side. If you're interested in it, Brian's talking about it.

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Well, here we go. This is a very interesting conversation between Bill Moore and Brian Cranston. And believe it or not, I 100% agree with Bill Moore, and I think Brian Cranston is shocked when it comes to critical race theory. Listen. In Florida, they.

They want to do away with critical race theory and a lot of other states. Because sometimes it veers off into things that are really not appropriate in schools.

So, how do you government? If you're telling five-year-olds that you're either an oppressor. or someone who uh was uh oppressed. You're you're introducing ideas about race that are inappropriate for kids that age who can't understand it. It's just the back and forth Brian Cranston, who's been on before when he was in Malcolm in the Middle before he became this megastar.

He just totally indicates to me what's happening with people that don't have any idea what the rest of the world is doing outside Hollywood and their acting circles.

Next. Get this. The Empire State Building lit up in green and white. That's how I got up today. It's the cover of the New York Post.

It says Bird Brains, and they did it in the Eagles' color.

So you know, the Eagles are not liked in New York City. No joke. They beat the Giants three times. It's for the Jets and Giants and Bills. That's it.

Mets and Yankees, Knicks. Nets, get it, understood. A New York team. Red Bulls, I'll take it. NYCFC, if you can figure out their light blue colors, fine.

But you cannot do it that way.

Meanwhile, some funny.

Some funny tweets in response. When controversial bar stool founder David Pournay criticized the lighting scheme, the building quote tweeted him with a video of Portnay fake crying and saying life is so unfair. City agencies joined in the social scrum. Let's move on. A YouTuber named Mr.

Beast pays to cure the sight of a thousand blind people. Evidently, he gave them cataract surgery they couldn't afford. Mr. Beast gave away $10,000 to a number of patients, bought one at Tesla, and even donated $50,000 to another college fund. He donated $100,000 overall.

I never knew about this guy, Mr. Beast, but his name is Jimmy Donaldson. Donaldson is known for outlandish stunts, which include him being buried alive for 50 hours and a week. The last person to take the hand off of a private jet gets to keep the plane. In addition to being YouTube's most subscribed individual, he's also one of the website's highest earners.

Congratulations to him. What else can I tell you about? Good morning, America. The three or GMA3 has cut. Ties with TJ Holmes and Amy Roebuck.

They don't seem upset by it. Big picture shows them in LA straddling each other.

Next, nearly 9 in 10 adults think they're financially responsible, yet 35% still rely on their parents to pay their bills. Yes, three-quarters of those responding vow to take these bills on themselves within the next two years, but 30% admit they have their parents pay their bills. That to me is kind of contradictory. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Keep in mind, I'll be unoutnumbered at the top of the hour, and you'll see me all throughout the channel.

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